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SPRING 2013
GUEST INTERVIEW
Century Management
VOLUME XLIV NO 1.
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Our
flagship
private
account
strategy
is
our
all-cap
value
strategy
that
we
refer
to
as
CM
Value
I.
It
dates
back
to
1974
and
was
the
strategy
I
used
when
I
started
Century
Management.
However,
over
the
years
as
clients
expressed
different
investment
needs,
we
applied
our
value
investment
discipline
to
a
variety
of
other
strategies,
including
two
large-cap
value
strategies,
two
small-cap
value
strategies,
three
balanced
strategies,
and
one
fixed
income
strategy.
Why
do
you
believe
that
value
investing
is
a
better
way
to
manage
money?
Value
investing
does
not
appeal
to
the
masses.
If
it
did,
you
would
never
be
able
to
buy
a
bargain.
Stocks
selling
below
their
intrinsic
value
or
below
what
an
experienced
businessman
knows
his
company
is
worth,
bargain
stocks,
are
usually
only
found
during
times
of
great
uncertainty.
Because
of
the
fear
surrounding
uncertainty,
many
people
are
willing
to
sell
stocks
well
below
their
intrinsic
values
and
often
times
at
bargain-basement
prices.
Typically
this
happens
because
a
company,
an
industry,
or
in
some
cases
the
market
at-large
has
a
problem,
which
is
usually
temporary.
Regardless,
history
has
proven
that
investors
who
buy
these
bargains
will
frequently
be
rewarded
when
the
uncertainty
clears.
This
is
as
fundamental
as
it
gets,
and
you
can
use
this
approach
for
any
investment,
whether
its
stocks,
bonds,
real
estate,
commodities,
or
a
private
business.
As
Benjamin
Graham
said,
Price
determines
return.
And,
as
his
famous
disciple,
Warren
Buffett,
stated,
Uncertainty
is
the
friend
of
the
long-term
investor.
What
is
your
approach
to
value
investing?
Jim
Brilliant,
our
co-chief
investment
officer,
explains
it
best
when
he
states
that
the
main
focus
of
our
investment
philosophy
is
to
recognize
and
capitalize
on
value
gaps.
Simply
put,
the
value
gap
is
the
difference
between
the
price
of
a
stock
and
the
underlying
value
of
the
business.
Benjamin
Graham
once
said,
In
the
short
run,
the
market
is
a
voting
machine,
but
in
the
long
run
its
a
weighing
machine.
Thats
exactly
what
he
was
describing.
He
was
describing
how
in
the
short
run,
market
gyrations
move
stocks
all
over
the
place,
but
the
underlying
value
of
the
business
is
what
defines
the
price
over
the
long
run.
As
an
example,
lets
take
a
cyclical
company
with
a
strong
balance
sheet.
These
are
some
of
our
favorites.
We
know
at
the
bottom
of
the
cycle,
it
generally
loses
or
doesnt
make
much
money,
at
the
top
of
the
cycle
its
making
a
lot
of
money,
and
in
between
it
is
growing
its
earnings
appropriately.
On
Chart
1,
I
have
isolated
the
tangible
book
value
per
share
for
our
sample
company,
which
is
one
of
our
favorite
14
valuation
metrics
that
we
use
to
value
businesses.
Tangible
book
value,
for
those
not
familiar
with
it,
consists
of
all
the
assets
of
a
company
minus
all
the
liabilities,
which
gives
you
the
net
worth
or
book
value
of
the
company.
From
there,
you
subtract
the
value
of
goodwill,
patents,
and
copyrights,
and
what
you
have
left
is
tangible
book.
Looking
at
Chart
1,
you
can
see
that
while
there
have
been
ups
and
downs
along
the
way
over
the
past
20
years,
the
tangible
book
of
our
sample
company
has
grown
rather
steadily
over
time.
Now
its
cyclical,
so
there
are
some
ups
and
downs.
But,
over
20
years,
through
all
the
economic
ups
and
downs,
the
tangible
book
has
grown
pretty
nicely
over
time.
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2
Chart
1
Sample
Company
Tangible
Book
Value
Per
Share
Now
lets
look
at
the
stock
price
during
this
same
period
on
Chart
2.
Its
volatile.
It
has
gone
from
$5
to
$25,
back
to
$5,
up
to
$10,
down
to
$5,
back
up
to
$30,
back
down
to
$8,
and
so
on.
Chart
2
Sample
Company
Stock
Price
The
value
investor
sees
this
volatility
and
says,
What
a
great
opportunity.
However,
the
masses
generally
say,
This
stock
is
way
too
risky,
Ill
pass.
We
are
full
believers
in
the
buy
low,
sell
high
investment
philosophy,
so
to
us
this
would
be
a
great
opportunity.
Now
its
time
to
apply
our
value
gap
methodology,
and
on
Chart
3
we
put
Charts
1
&
2
together
to
compare
price
and
value.
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3
Chart
3
Sample
Company
Price-to-Tangible
Book
Value
This
Sample
Stock
Price
Reached
Tangible
Book
5
Times
in
22
Years
What
you
notice
on
Chart
3
is
that
every
time
the
price
hits
tangible
book,
its
the
bottom
of
the
stock
price.
Furthermore,
it
doesnt
stay
down
there
very
long.
This
also
coincides
with
the
time
that
the
stock
is
the
cheapest
and
where
the
reward-to-risk
is
the
greatest.
Unfortunately,
its
also
the
time
when
the
masses
typically
become
fearful
of
the
volatility,
often
times
selling
these
stocks
or
ignoring
them
altogether,
and
thus
give
up
the
potential
for
a
great
opportunity.
Now
that
we
know
the
stock
typically
hits
bottom
when
its
selling
at
tangible
book,
the
final
step
is
to
convert
this
into
a
price-to-tangible
book
ratio
in
order
to
see
what
this
ratio
has
been
at
any
time
over
the
past
20
years.
On
the
side
of
Chart
4,
we
show
numbers
zero
through
eight.
The
number
one
represents
1
times
book,
the
number
two
represents
2
times
book,
and
so
on.
The
Value
Zone
shown
on
the
chart
suggests
it
is
a
good
buying
opportunity
when
the
stock
trades
at
1
to
1.5
times
tangible
book
value.
Conversely,
any
time
the
stock
sells
at
3
to
4
times
tangible
book,
we
would
suggest
the
stock
is
in
the
Expensive
Zone
and
selling
is
in
order.
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4
Chart
4
Sample
Company
Price-to-Tangible
Book
Value
When
we
wrap
everything
up,
we
put
it
into
our
valuation
structure.
In
this
example,
we
would
set
our
worst
case
at
0.90
times
tangible
book,
our
buy
point
at
1.15
times
tangible
book,
and
our
sell
point
at
3
times
tangible
book.
While
we
use
many
valuation
metrics
to
arrive
at
our
total
valuation,
as
certain
valuation
metrics
are
more
relevant
to
certain
companies
and
industries
than
others,
we
believe
this
process
in
valuing
a
business
allows
us
the
opportunity
to
capture
the
value
gap
and
make
the
volatility
work
in
our
favor.
Are
there
certain
sectors
or
cap
sizes
that
produce
better
value
gaps
than
others?
Value
gaps
happen
in
all
industries
and
all
sectors.
They
happen
in
small
companies
as
well
as
large.
They
can
occur
one
at
a
time
or
all
at
once
in
major
market
downturns.
It
is
for
this
reason
that
I
began
Century
Management
with
an
all-cap
value
discipline,
as
I
did
not
want
to
be
limited
to
any
cap
size
or
sector
of
the
market.
I
wanted
to
invest
wherever
I
could
find
value.
This
all-cap
value
approach
has
been
our
flagship
strategy
for
more
than
38
years.
As
value
investors,
do
you
ever
use
macroeconomics?
Yes,
we
review
macroeconomic
factors.
However,
we
have
come
to
the
conclusion
that
there
are
only
three
primary
drivers
that
affect
stock
performance.
And
although
you
wont
always
be
right,
if
you
concentrate
on
these
three
things,
your
investment
decisions,
overall,
will
probably
be
very
good.
They
are
inflation,
interest
rates
and
the
fundamentals
of
businesses.
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5
How
would
you
describe
the
fundamentals
of
business
today?
There
are
many
positive
developments
taking
place
in
this
country.
While
there
are
also
a
lot
of
short-term
negatives
impacting
the
economy,
the
positives
have,
unfortunately,
been
lost
among
the
negatives
featured
in
todays
newspapers.
For
example,
there
are
tremendous
opportunities
and
financial
gains
taking
place
in
the
production
of
natural
gas.
This
is
truly
a
game
changer
in
economics,
and
it
is
truly
phenomenal
to
see
this
happen.
For
the
first
time
in
our
countrys
history,
we
are
going
to
be
able
to
create
a
surplus
in
natural
gas
that
will
allow
us
to
become
a
major
exporter.
Up
to
this
point,
we
were
only
importers.
We
have
the
capacity
to
produce
natural
gas
at
$4.00
to
$4.50
per
thousand
cubic
feet.
We
can
ship
it
for
another
$4.00
to
$4.50.
We
can
sell
it
as
high
as
$16
in
Japan
and
in
Europe
at
$10
or
$11.
In
addition,
it
is
now
estimated
that
we
have
a
100-year
supply
of
natural
gas,
and
its
drilling
and
production
is
not
expected
to
taper
off
for
another
20
or
30
years.
Because
we
are
becoming
the
low-cost
producer
of
natural
gas,
there
is
a
manufacturing
resurgence
taking
place
in
the
United
States.
In
fact,
there
are
companies
from
all
over
the
world
planning
to
open
up
plants
here
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
this
low
cost
energy.
One
example,
the
irony
of
ironies,
is
that
Egypt
is
bringing
over
their
largest
fertilizer
manufacturing
plant
to
the
U.S.
because
they
can
buy
the
natural
gas
cheaper
here
than
in
the
Middle
East.
This
is
truly
amazing.
Also
in
the
manufacturing
sector
is
3D
printing.
This
is
one
of
the
most
exciting
developments
I
have
seen
in
a
long
time.
3D
printing
now
allows
manufacturers
of
any
size
in
almost
any
industry
to
take
a
computer-designed
blueprint,
put
it
into
the
3D
printer,
pour
in
a
variety
of
liquids
or
other
materials,
and
then
the
machine
literally
produces
the
product
just
like
you
would
print
ink
on
a
piece
of
paper.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
in
the
field
of
medical
science
they
have
used
this
technology
to
make
custom
fit
titanium
jaws,
as
well
as
human
skulls.
Additionally,
Wake
Forest
University
is
experimenting
with
this
technology
with
the
hopes
of
being
able
to
reproduce
human
tissue,
so
that
one
day
human
organs,
such
as
a
kidney,
can
be
reproduced.
These
are
phenomenal
developments
that
are
going
to
make
us,
the
United
States,
the
low
cost
producer
and
manufacturer
of
many
goods
and
services.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
our
research
shows
that
in
order
for
Europe
to
be
competitive
with
America
today,
they
would
need
to
reduce
their
costs
another
30%.
This
is
in
addition
to
the
reductions
they
have
already
made!
Japan
is
no
longer
competitive
with
the
United
States;
they
are
bringing
their
automobile
plants
over
here,
and
they
are
starting
to
print
money
again
to
reduce
the
value
of
the
yen.
China,
which
used
to
be
our
main
competitor,
is
still
a
competitor.
However,
because
their
wages
have
increased,
all
of
the
unrest,
the
shipping
and
so
forth,
there
are
many
companies
that
are
starting
to
bring
their
plants
over
here
instead.
Real
estate
is
another
area
of
growth
for
the
U.S.
While
real
estate
markets
and
prices
are
location
specific,
the
overall
health
of
the
U.S.
real
estate
market
has
been
improving.
As
the
shadow
inventory
continues
to
be
worked
down,
new
home
buyers
and
investors
enter
the
market;
and
with
the
help
of
low
interest
rates
and
the
lack
of
development
over
the
past
four
years,
real
estate
has
become
a
tailwind
rather
than
a
headwind
for
the
economy.
These
items
make
the
long-term
future
of
America
very
bright
indeed.
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6
Do
you
expect
high
inflation
in
the
near
future?
Over
the
last
10
years,
commodities,
in
general,
have
moved
up
about
7%.
Well,
why
hasnt
this
7%
increase
in
commodities
registered
in
the
CPI,
as
it
only
shows
a
2.4%
increase?
The
reason
is
that
the
biggest
cost
of
inflation
is
human
labor.
In
any
product,
labor
costs
between
60%
and
80%.
And
therein
lies
the
rub.
As
your
readers
have
probably
noted
in
their
own
salaries,
most
have
not
gone
up
for
the
last
five
years.
You
will
not
have
wage
inflation
until
salaries
go
up.
And
when
looking
at
a
real
rate
of
return
(inflation
adjusted),
salaries
arent
even
back
to
2007
levels.
For
five
years
salaries
have
been
stagnant.
If
the
median
income
in
the
United
States
is
$50,000,
and
people
have
to
pay
more
for
gas,
but
they
do
not
have
any
more
money
coming
in,
they
spend
more
for
gas
and
spend
less
on
food,
on
clothes
or
other
things.
Commodity
prices
will
eventually
average
out
as
people
spend
more
on
energy
and
less
on
other
things.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
Continuous
Commodity
Futures
Price
Index
hit
a
high
of
700
last
year,
and
it
has
been
coming
down
just
as
gold
has
been
coming
down
because
the
effects
have
already
started
to
percolate
through.
So
first
of
all,
youre
not
going
to
have
as
much
commodity
inflation
going
forward.
Second,
you
are
not
going
to
have
much
wage
inflation.
Over
the
last
year,
we
have
averaged
180,000
new
jobs
a
month.
But
there
are
110,000
people
coming
into
the
labor
force
each
month
looking
for
jobs.
So
if
you
take
180,000
jobs
and
subtract
the
110,000
people
that
are
coming
into
the
job
market,
the
net
job
creation
is
70,000
per
month.
In
order
to
have
a
tight
labor
market
in
which
people
can
negotiate
for
raises,
we
need
the
unemployment
rate
down
to
about
6.0%
to
6.5%.
Thats
going
to
take
approximately
4
million
jobs.
If
you
need
4
million
jobs
to
have
a
tight
labor
market
and
wage
inflation,
and
you
are
only
producing
a
net
70,000
jobs
a
month,
it
will
take
four
years
and
nine
months
to
get
that
tight
labor
market.
It
is
Fed
Chairman
Bernankes
desire
to
move
this
money
out
of
the
banks
during
this
time,
which
should
be
sufficient
to
stave
off
major
inflation.
Now
whether
he
does
it
or
not,
I
dont
know.
But
after
reading
the
Fed
minutes,
I
get
a
sense
that
there
are
many
people
on
the
Federal
Reserve
Board
concerned
and
that
they
will
want
to
eventually
pull
this
money
out
of
the
banks.
However,
if
they
dont,
then
those
people
who
are
predicting
high
inflation
will
be
right.
Watch
what
the
Federal
Reserves
doing.
If
they
start
to
remove
those
reserves,
you
can
quit
worrying
about
inflation
until
you
have
a
tight
labor
market.
Can
interest
rates
go
up
even
if
we
dont
have
high
inflation?
Yes.
Credit
risk
can
cause
a
dramatic
rise
in
interest
rates
if
people
begin
to
fear
that
they
may
not
get
their
money
back.
Spain,
Greece,
Italy
and
Portugal
had
very
modest
inflation
a
couple
of
years
ago,
running
around
2.5%
to
3.0%.
It
was
a
little
higher
in
Spain
and
roughly
4.0%
in
Italy,
but
pretty
much
like
the
U.S.
Then,
in
a
matter
of
weeks,
Spains
bond
went
from
4.5%
to
7.0%.
Greece
went
from
4.5%
and
5.0%
to
30%.
Italy
went
from
4.0%
to
7.0%
and
Portugal
went
from
5.0%
to
20%.
What
caused
their
tremendous
increases
in
interest
rates
if
there
was
no
inflation
to
speak
of?
They
were
so
heavily
in
debt,
and
since
the
debt
kept
piling
up
because
of
the
recession,
people
started
worrying
about
getting
their
money
back.
So
credit
risk
can
drive
up
interest
rates.
Now
I
am
going
to
give
you
the
guidelines.
In
Spain,
debt-to-GDP
is
90%.
In
Greece,
its
170%
to
GDP.
In
Italy
its
127%,
and
in
Portugal
its
118%.
The
general
thinking
at
the
International
Monetary
Fund
is
that
when
a
nation
gets
to
be
about
115%
to
120%
in
debt,
people
start
worrying
about
getting
their
money
back.
Today,
the
U.S.
is
at
103%.
While
we
are
not
at
the
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level
of
these
other
countries
(except
for
Spain-however,
our
earnings
power
is
greater
and
therefore
our
ability
to
repay
our
debt
is
greater),
we
are
at
risk
when
it
comes
to
interest
rates.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
inflation;
rather
people
would
be
worried
about
our
governments
ability
to
pay
down
that
debt.
I
think
it
would
take
at
least
five
to
seven
years,
even
at
the
current
ridiculous
rates,
before
people
would
start
worrying
about
that.
However,
this
is
not
a
very
long
time,
so
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
it
now.
If
the
debt-to-GDP
rises
over
110%,
then
you
must
consider
the
risk
of
increasing
interest
rates
due
to
credit
risk
as
opposed
to
the
increasing
interest
rate
risk
due
to
inflation.
In
the
1970s,
the
U.S.
had
a
very
low
debt-to-
GDP
ratio.
Thats
why
the
Fed
was
allowed
to
continue
on.
Today,
there
is
so
much
debt
in
the
economy
that
it
will
weigh
heavily
on
the
U.S.
if
interest
rates
begin
to
rise.
However,
in
the
immediate
future,
I
do
not
believe
that
interest
rates
will
increase
dramatically,
nor
do
I
believe
that
inflation
will
rise
dramatically.
As
a
value
investor,
how
do
you
predict
when
to
invest?
Most
of
the
people
who
have
accumulated
the
greatest
wealth
in
this
business
have
done
so
not
by
predicting
the
future,
but
by
buying
companies
at
such
attractive
prices,
thereby
discounting
the
majority
of
the
problems
people
fear.
And,
as
usually
happens
in
life
and
also
when
buying
stocks,
most
of
our
fears
are
never
realized.
When
investors
own
companies
at
prices
that
already
reflect
existing
and
future
problems,
as
some
of
those
problems
never
materialize,
they
likely
find
themselves
with
nice
profits
and
thereby
understand
and
appreciate
that
the
greatest
wealth
is
made
in
buying
great
values,
not
in
trying
to
predict
the
future.
Do
you
think
the
market
is
cheap
or
expensive
today?
I
think
Value
Line
Investment
Surveys
median
P/E
is
a
great
barometer
of
the
general
market.
Over
the
last
30
plus
years,
this
surveys
median
P/E
has
fluctuated
from
about
10
at
market
bottoms
to
roughly
20
at
market
peaks.
It
is
very
simple
and
easy
to
understand.
In
2009,
when
the
market
was
way
down,
it
was
at
10
times
earnings.
Only
four
times
in
the
last
30
years
has
it
hit
a
median
P/E
of
10
+/-.
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Chart
5
Historical
Value
Line
Median
Price
Earnings
Ratio
19.7
20.9
20.1
Average
Peak
PE
=
20.1
during
this
period
19.7
16.9
13.4
Value Zone
Average
PE
=
7.6
during
this
period
13.8
3/15/13
16.6
P/E
12.7
10.6
9.0
1
10.2
2
3
10.2
4
Let
me
explain
why
this
is
such
a
good
barometer
to
use.
First,
because
it
uses
a
median
P/E
versus
an
average
P/E,
the
distortions
caused
by
a
small
group
of
large
companies,
typical
of
an
S&P
500
average
P/E,
have
been
removed.
Second,
it
is
made
up
of
1,700
companies
versus
500
in
the
S&P
500
and
only
30
in
the
Dow
Jones
Industrial
Average,
and
it
includes
a
lot
of
mid
and
small-cap
companies.
Third,
it
uses
two
quarters
of
forward
earnings
and
two
quarters
of
trailing
earnings
versus
all
forward-looking
earnings.
Therefore,
I
believe
it
gives
you
a
very
good
evaluation
of
the
general
market.
As
of
March
15,
2013,
the
median
P/E
is
16.6.
If
we
currently
had
more
normal,
long-term
historical
growth
rates,
the
potential
upside
could
be
from
a
median
P/E
of
16.6
to
20,
which
is
20%.
However,
I
would
suggest
to
you
that
because
we
have
such
slow
growth
in
todays
economy,
the
median
P/E
probably
wont
get
over
17
or
18.
If
17
to
18
is
the
peak
given
this
current
rate
of
growth,
our
opinion
is
that
this
is
a
fairly-valued
market
today
with
only
3%
to
10%
left
on
the
upside.
How
can
those
interested
in
your
services
find
out
more
about
Century
Management?
You
can
learn
more
about
our
firm
on
our
website
at
www.centman.com,
or
call
us
at
1-800-664-4888
and
we
will
be
happy
to
send
you
more
information.
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