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IstherearequirementforPipespecmarkingsandheatnumberstobetransferredbeforecuttingapipeintopiecestoensure
identificationandtraceabilityofeverypieceintheaboveASMECodesforCodework?ASMESectionIPG77onlyrefersto
plateidentification.IfthereispleasegivetheapplicablesectionintheseCodes.
ThisisarequirementifyourASMEQualityControl/AssuranceManualstatesthisforallmaterials.Otherwise,no,itis
specificallyforplatematerials.

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Justrealizethatifyouareamanufacturerandyourcustomer'sspeccallsformaterialtraceability,youmayhavealotof
materialrejected.
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NCA3856(c)states"Identificationmarkingshalllbetransferredtoallpieceswhenmaterialorsourcematerialdivided.
AlsoreadNCA3856.2andNCA3856.3
Lee
wedon'tbuildsection1stuff,butonoursectionVIIIstuff,wetranferheatnumberswithapaintpenandrecordonmaterial
logofourtraveler(materialtabulationreport)
somepipesaretoothintostampon
MarkingisarequirementinCodeWorkforeverymaterial,plate,pipe,nozz/fittings,attachments,yourQCManualshould
indicatehowandwhentomarkmaterialsincompliancewiththeCode.
whethersectVIII,SectI,SectIV,

UG77(a),UG93(a)(2),andUG94(justafewthatIfound)explicitlystatethatmaterialmarkingsrequiredbytheapplicable
SectionIImaterialspecificationmustbetransferredtoeachnewpiece,bothfortraceabilityandtosatisfytheInspector.
Ifthematerialspecificationdoesnotrequiremarking,UG93(a)(3)applies,whichrequiresanequivalentsystembedescribed
intheManufacturer'sQCManual"suchthattheInspectorcandeterminethatitisthematerialidentifiedin(a)(3)(a)above."
UG93(a)(4)givesadditionalguidanceonpiping/tubingthatisn'tlongenoughtoadequatelymark(colorcoding,etc.).
Ah...didnotrealizethatyouwereaskingaboutSectionImaterialmarkings.Myapologiesatleastanyoneinterestedin
SectionVIIIDiv.Irequirementsknowswheretofindthemnow.:)

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ASMEB31.1&SectionImaterialidentificationASME(mechanical)CodeIssuesEngTips

HeatlottraceabiltyisnotrequiredforpipematerialsunderASMEIandB31.1.ReASMEI,reviewA302.4MaterialControl
requirementstobeincludedinyourQualityContriolSystem.

"HeatlottraceabiltyisnotrequiredforpipematerialsunderASMEI",
thatistotallyincorrect.
IfyoumusthaveanMTRthenrheheatisthereanditmaybetheonlywaytotracethepipetotheoriginalnfr/mill.
Heattraceabilityisacommonpracticespeciallyforpipe>1.1/2"NPS
GenB,
WhereaswehaveassembledandStampedoverahundredpowerboilerduringthepast14years,permitmetodisagree.
WhileMTR'sareobtainedforallreceivedpressurepiping,transferofheatmarkingtoallcutpiecesand/orheatmappingis
notrequired.

YouhaveandhadveryfriendlyAIs,
nottracingthematerials/pipeisacodeViolation.
Iwouldlikeotheropinionshere.lookthateveryoneisquite.
DowehaveaninspectorheretointerprettheCode?
Fromacoderequirementpointofview.
IamrequirednotonlybymyQCmanualbutitistherebecausethereviewteamrequireditwaybeforeauditbecauseif
foundtheQCManualdoesnotaddressit,Iwillloosepoints.Ihada100%passonthelastreview.
IfyouknowMr.J.LockhartthenyouknowwhatIamtalkingabout.
Itellyouwhat?IwillputaninterpretationtoallreferenceCommittees.
C'monguys...Iansweredthisquestiononthefirstreply.
ASMECodeparagraphPG77specificallydiscussesplatematerials.However,becausecodedmarkingsystemsarewidely
adoptedwithintheASMECodesasanalternativetothefullidentificationmarkingtransfer(suchasthatdefinedinparagraph
PG77.2forplatematerials),traceabilitytothecompleteidentificationmarkingsisrequiredbygeneralCodeparagraphPG5.
TheManufacturerwhoorderspipematerialforaCodeapplicationisresponsibleforamaterialcontrolsystemthatensures
thatthepropermaterialisusedinCodeconstruction.Thematerialcontrolsystemprovidesmethodsacceptabletothe
AuthorizedInspectorforassuringthatonlytheintendedmaterialisusedinCodeconstruction.TheManufacturer's
certification,properlycountersignedbytheAuthorizedInspector,maybeacceptedassufficientevidenceofCodecompliance

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Includingplate,anymaterialcanbecodemarkedfortraceability.andalwayspertheAIacceptance.
warning:someAIwillnotgiveyouthegreenlightunlessconvincedthattheeffectandrecordkeepingisgood.
MostAIwouldliketheHeatNo.onthepipeandplatessotheirjobgetseasier.
CMTR'sarestillarequirement.

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