Title:

Climate Change Will continue with Renewable Energy

Conversions Too.
Authors: Neale R Neelameggham1, Robert E Brown2, Ganesan Subramanian3 and
Brian R.Davis4
Contacts: 1neelameggham@outlook.com, 2magman6@aol.com,
3
subs@comcast.net, 4bb_dd@sbcglobal.net.
We want to bring to attention climate changes that will be brought out by use of non-fossil
fuels for which very minimal information exists in the present day. Worldwide control of carbon
dioxide as a pollutant is not based on sound pollution control and energy conversion principles. The
control imposition attempted worldwide affecting the livelihood and economy of several industries is
not warranted in order to displace existing industries for a continued healthy growth. Such
geoengineering and total changes will not solve the perceived climate change control by substitution
by so called little or no fossil fuels. In this opinion we want to bring to attention climate changes that
will be brought out by use of non-fossil fuels for which very minimal information exists in the
present day.
It is the human energy conversions into electricity and appliances and industrial plants that
are run using that electricity is a major component causing hot air rising into atmosphere leading to
Global Anthropogenic Warming (GAW) temperature anomaly compared to the preindustrial
conditions, and a modeled base average. This heating of the air is partly moderated by the
evaporative cooling over the ocean surface and by energy consuming evapo transpiration of plants
during photosynthesis. We are not going to stop this GAW by switching over to renewable energy
sources - such as biomass, solar, wind or hydro from fossil fuel sources. Simple example is - summer
cooling of a house with an air conditioner unit running on solar panel or wind power electricity, will
heat up the ambient air to the same extent as the unit running on electricity from a coal or gas
powered utility. The wire does not care where the electrons come from. These non-carbon based
energy conversions will not release carbon dioxide, but they will continue the production of hot air
and related increase in water vapor.
Neelameggham and Davis, notes the following in their 21st Century Global Anthropogenic
warming convective model, published in the Journal of Nanomaterials and energy, Dec. 2015. The
energy conversions into different forms, following conversions to such as electricity, are independent
of the fuel or alternative energy used in the process. These conversions end up in hot airas part of
conservation of energy. Present correlations will become obsolete in explaining atmospheric
temperature variations when more and more renewable energy is used to create electricity. The effect
of this thermal waste stored in the atmosphere when partly moderated by evaporative cooling can lead
to climate change as excess precipitation, only if other conditions permit. The extent of global mean
temperature increase is mainly a function of global population and associated energy conversions.
The GAW model notes the following which are not shown in current IPCC models. In 1966
the average global energy conversion was 0.0104 watts/m2 at a population 3.397 billion. In 2012 the
average global energy conversion was 0.0327 W/m2 at a population 7.082 billion. In 2100 the average
global energy conversion could go to 0.0651 W/m2 at an anticipated global population 10.8 billion
[UN est]. Each 0.01 W/m2 energy conversion can result in a 0.31 oC increase in temperature in ten
years, without moderation by evaporative cooling. In the 50 years since 1965 population doubled

while the human energy conversion tripled. We saw only a 0.66 oC increase in atmospheric
temperature along with increased humidity instead of what could have been 2.8 oC increase in the air
mass without evaporative cooling. This enthalpy change model can compute the increase of 200
meter in altitude of the top of troposphere - tropopause from a 0.7 oC GAW due to air mass expansion.
At this point note that the major greenhouse gas keeping the planetary surface temperature in the
livable range is water vapor. Water vapor causes the major greenhouse effect, while the second
greenhouse gas is carbon dioxide which causes a fraction of the effect. Carbon dioxide is an important
component of all living matter - biomass, animals and humans. Bio fuels and fossil fuels give out
both carbon dioxide and water vapor. The warming effect from the renewable energy conversions
results only in excess water vapor - which alone cannot support life and living matter.
Water vapor gets replenished in the atmosphere from the vast oceans. Not all the carbon
dioxide emitted by human energy conversions stay in the atmosphere; the amount varies from year to
year - on an average the first half of twentieth century saw 75% staying in the atmosphere, while the
recent 50 years with increased energy conversions saw only 45% staying in the atmosphere. This is a
variable dependent on many other natural causes.
Continuing to say human energy conversion has to stop is equivalent to statements of wanting
to have zero population growth. Stopping population growth may not be palatable to most religions or
political entities in the world. This we may call it oxymoral. Similarly a call to abstain from energy
use avoid air conditioning, avoid transportation etc. is impractical for most.
Energy conversions will continue, climate change will continue. By switching from one form
of energy conversion to another form is not going to change these. Controlling and elimination of a
well established industry is not a solution. What should be expected is that coal as well as other
industries are made to control real toxic emissions, and operate in a clean environmental fashion
which does not affect public health. It is important that authorities worldwide should limit itself to
addressing these required controls.
During the 1998-2012 when the carbon dioxide levels kept going up, temperature increases had not this was dubbed as hiatus. It was called as hiatus as there was no explanation in existing scientific
thought. This hiatus was most likely a result of increase in precipitation and humidity which are more
difficult to quantify. In a recent article in Nature Climate Change -Making Sense of the Early 2000s
Warming slowdown, J.Fyfe and others, stated the difficulties in computation of aerosols which are
instrumental in cloud formation and precipitation which easily nullifies the effect of increasing carbon
dioxide levels. During the hiatus period there was an increased amount of aerosols which caused the
pause. What kind of climate change will happen in the future if there were reduced amount of
aerosols to cause the condensation of increasing water vapor with increased amounts of renewable
energy conversions? Sweaty and muggy!! Should we then fully switch to renewables resulting in
lifeless atmospheric warming with water vapor alone without sufficient carbon dioxide for continued
vegetation growth. There is no difference in the carbon coming from biomass from that coming from
coal or oil.
Montevideo, Uruguay with 95% renewable wind electricity was hotter in 2015 compared to prior 30
years - based on the interactive map -how hot was your city - shown in New York Times in January
2016. Most of the Scandinavian cities with close to 60% of renewables supplying their energy supply
as well as Austria with over 75% renewables also had increasing temperatures in 2015. We should be
aware of human geoengineering studies done by Rand Corporation for the United States Navy during

the 1960s, which show how we can melt the arctic ice to cause a warmer ambient. Now we are seeing
this happening due to natural events resulting from energy guzzling increased population without the
help of any geo-engineering. Recently another geo-engineering is alluded to - about pumping water
up in the air to replenish Antarcticas ice, requiring more energy conversions and heating. Better geoengineering is related to forestations worldwide including the present deserts. Applying the principles
from the studies on how forests produce more rain than the ocean and how ground level winds are
initiated by condensation of water will be useful. Reforestations cannot happen without co-emission
of carbon dioxide. All the energy conversion routes should be allowed to evolve in its natural course
as a supplement to present energy conversion routes we have in order to sustain future population
growth. By switching from one form of energy conversion to another form is not going to change
these. Controlling and elimination of well-established industries is not a solution. What should be
expected is that coal as well as other industries are made to control real toxic emissions, and operate
in a clean environmental fashion which does not affect public health.
Addresses:
1. Neale R Neelameggham, The Guru, IND LLC, 9859 Dream Circle, South Jordan, UT
84095. tel: 801-253-3592
2. Bob Brown, Publisher, Magnesium Monthly Review, 226 Deer Trace, Prattville, AL 36067.
tel: 334-220-4880.
3. G Subramanian, Ph.D., 452 Maple St., Bellaire, TX77401
4. Brian R. Davis, Ph.D., 10612 Leslie St., Manvel, TX77058
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