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US Banks
P/B value
Wells Fargo
1.47
US Bancorp
1.73
Bank of America
0.69
Citigroup
0.67
Goldman Sachs
0.96
Deutsche bank
0.42
JP Morgan
0.99
Morgan Stanley
0.81
Similarly elsewhere
Hong Kong banks
HK banks
P/B value
P/B value
1.89
China-operating
banks (HK-listed)
0.85
ICBC
0.80
BOC(HK)
1.29
CCB
0.78
HSBC
0.75
BOC
0.72
Standard
Chartered
0.53
ABC
0.79
Bank of Comms
0.63
Citic bank
0.63
China Minsheng
Bank
0.79
China Merchants
Bank
0.98
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P/B valuation
History doesnt repeat
itself but it rhymes
- Unknown author
Bank
Wells Fargo
0.86
US Bancorp
1.29
Citigroup
0.136
Bank of America
0.207
CNBC interview
Q: What will it take for Bank of America and Citigroup to trade
above tangible book value like Wells Fargo and JPMorgan Chase?
Buffett: Well, a bank that earns 1.3% or 1.4% on assets is going to
end up selling above tangible book value. If it's earning 0.6% or
0.5% on asset it's not going to sell. Book value is not key to
valuing banks. Earnings are key to valuing banks. Now, it translates
to book value to some extent because you're required to hold a
certain amount of tangible equity compared to the assets you
have.
But you've got banks like Wells Fargo and USB that earn very high
returns on assets, and they at a good price to tangible book. You've
got other banks ... that are earning lower returns on tangible assets,
and they're going to sell -- they're going to sell [for less].
At the time, California was in the midst of a significant real estate crisis. Banks with exposure
to the real estate market were being hammered in the markets, notably Wells Fargo and
BankAmerica (a predecessor to today's Bank of America). Because Wells had by far the
largest concentration of real estate loans in California, many investors considered
BankAmerica a safer investment. But those investors were missing some key details.
First, Wells was exceptionally conservative in classifying a loan as being a problem. When
banks identify a loan as being a problem, they pull cash aside as a reserve against any
potential future loss. Those reserves show up as an expense on the income statement,
effectively dampening net income to protect the balance sheet.
Even the loans that Wells had already classified on its balance sheet as "nonperforming"
were actually earning interest for the bank. ... Nonperforming loans are loans that are in
some way substandard -- either loans that are not paying any interest, [loans that are] not
paying the full interest obligation, or loans where it is merely anticipated that future interest
charges and principal payments might not be met on a timely basis. Far from being worthless,
these nonperforming loans ... still had a cash yield of 6.2 percent. Greenblatt
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The banking business is no favorite of ours. When assets are twenty times equity - a common ratio in this industry -- mistakes that involve only a small portion of
assets can destroy a major portion of equity. And mistakes have been the rule
rather than the exception at many major banks. Most have resulted from a
managerial failing that we described last year when discussing the "institutional
imperative:" the tendency of executives to mindlessly imitate the behavior of their
peers, no matter how foolish it may be to do so. In their lending, many bankers
played follow-the-leader with lemming-like zeal; now they are experiencing a
lemming-like fate.
With Wells Fargo, we think we have obtained the best managers in the business.
Source: Berkshire Hathaway 1990 letter to shareholders
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Banks performance
Two metrics:
Profitability (ability to make money)
Bank capitalisation (ability to minimise losses)
Offense vs defense
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Profitability
Offense
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P/B
Wells Fargo
1.47
1.47
US Bancorp
1.54
1.73
Bank of
America
0.23
0.69
Citigroup
0.40
0.67
0.96
Deutsche bank
0.10
0.42
JP Morgan
0.87
0.99
0.81
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ROA(%)
P/B value
ICBC
1.39
0.80
CCB
1.51
0.78
BOC
1.20
0.72
ABC
1.25
0.79
Bank of Comms
1.12
0.63
Citic bank
1.06
0.63
Minsheng Bank
1.31
0.79
1.33
0.98
SC
0.44
0.53
HSBC
1.01
0.75
HSB
1.50
1.89
BEA
0.80
0.85
HK banks
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Efficiency ratio
Defined as:
Non-interest expense /
revenue
Inverse of net margin
US banks
Efficiency ratio
(2014) (%)
Wells Fargo
58.1
US Bancorp
53.2
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Goldman Sachs
64.2
Deutsche bank
86.7
JP Morgan
65
Morgan Stanley
89.6
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China banks
Bank
Bank
SC
60.24
ICBC
27.93
HSBC
67.3
CCB
28.92
HSB
31.8
BOC
28.57
BEA
54
ABC
34.56
Citic
30.41
Minsheng
33.4
DBS
45
Bank Co
30.52
OCBC
41
UOB
42.2
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Leverage ratio
Traditionally defined as
total equity / total
assets (sometimes
inverted)
Basel re-definition
expands to include
O/BS items
Bank
2008 leverage
ratio (tangible
asset/capital)
2014 leverage
ratio
Wells Fargo
13.34x
10.46x
US Bancorp
17.08x
12.33x
Bank of
America
18.25x
12.01x
Citigroup
18.90x (underreported?)
9.95x
Lehman
Brothers
(2007 AR)
39.8x
NA
Bear
Stearns
(2007 2Q
report)
30.76x
NA
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Other calculations
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Jun 30
Sept 15
ICBC
6.65
7.05
CCB
6.69
6.95
BOC
6.73
6.80
ABC
5.90
6.15
Bank of Comms
6.15
6.47
Citic bank
4.98
4.98
Minsheng Bank
5.40
5.51
4.96
5.55
SC
5.00
4.80
HSBC
4.90
(no update?)
HSB
7.70
no update
BEA
7.40
No update
HK banks
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SG banks
Bank
Sept 15
DBS
7.30
7.10
OCBC
7.40
7.60
UOB
7.60
7.20
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Non-performing loans
NPLs are bad loans recognised by banks
Banks exercise discretion for NPL discretion
Less leeway for overdue loans
Overdue loans
NPLs
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Loan-loss provisions
Lenders provision for losses in advance,
because loans can turn bad.
Metrics for bad loan coverage
Coverage ratio (Allowances / NPLs) [common]
Allowances / (Overdue + NPL)
Allowances / Total gross loans
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NPL NPL
%
coverage
% overdue %
or
allowance
impaired of overdue Allowance
loans and or NPL
% of total
advances loans
gross loans
1.40%
1.42%
1.41%
1.83%
163.40%
185.29%
157.37%
238.99%
2.50%
2.07%
2.84%
2.78%
91.74%
127.30%
77.83%
157.42%
2.29%
2.63%
2.21%
4.37%
1.36%
1.32%
1.50%
1.55%
162.13%
178.53%
204.17%
148.77%
3.88%
3.60%
3.13%
3.22%
56.60%
65.42%
97.52%
71.67%
2.20%
2.36%
3.06%
2.30%
2.36%
2.34%
54.48%
38.87%
3.89%
3.49%
33.08%
26.14%
1.29%
0.91%
0.88%
0.69%
1.24%
165.92%
156.37%
144.13%
1.46%
1.14%
3.49%
99.49%
94.89%
51.13%
1.45%
1.09%
1.78%
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Banks
HK banks
(overdue loans > 3 mths only)
HSB
BEA
BOC(HK)
DS Financials
NPL
NPL % coverage
0.43%
1.03%
0.27%
0.29%
71.89%
35.48%
161.07%
113.61%
% overdue
or
impaired % allowance Allowance
loans and of overdue % of total
advances or NPL loans gross loans
0.57%
1.76%
0.81%
0.61%
54.05%
20.70%
53.01%
55.19%
0.31%
0.36%
0.43%
0.33%
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Cost of funds
Lenders arbitrage
interest rates to make
money
1. Borrow cheaply, lend at
higher rates
2. Pocket the difference
3. PROFIT!
US banks
2014 Interest
on L (%)
2014 deposit
costs (%)
Wells Fargo
0.38
0.14
US Bancorp
0.58
0.24
Citigroup
1.02
0.75
Bank of America
0.82
0.15
ICBC
2.12
2.04
CCB
2.11
1.92
Citic
3.02
2.43
Minsheng
3.18
2.39
Bank Co
2.82
2.35
DBS
0.75
0.70
OCBC
1.07
1.07
UOB
1.02
1.04
China banks
SG banks
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Other banks
Foreign banks
2014 interest
on L (%)
2014 deposit
costs (%)
SC
1.10
0.60
HSBC
1.05
0.84
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