The Punch of Hora

&
Sub Hora
By
Venkat Ramana, India

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Venkat is a law graduate and presently
pursuing post graduation in management. He
has studied Jyotish Visharada in the ICAS
(Indian council of astrological sciences) and is
an honorary faculty in one of its branches at
Hyderabad. He has been studying palmistry
for more than 10 years and over a period of
time his interest drifted towards astrology. A
friend of Saptarishis Astrology and a very
humble yet extremely dedicated student of
this subject. He is a senior member of the
Saptarishis Astrology Re-Search Team.

e hear so many incidents that

astrologers of the past used to
identify the purpose of the visit
of a client who visits them just by looking at
the horoscope of the native without being
told by the client and stun them. I was
thinking many a times whether it is possible
to do so and tried to identify the reasons for
the visit of people who come to consult me.
Most of the times I failed. Then I thought it
may not be possible for me. But without
giving up I tried to correlate in various ways
as to why the client visits an astrologer at a
specified moment. Do the planets indicate
to the astrologer the purpose of visit of the
client? If so, in what way? Is it not possible
for the astrologer to identify the reason for
the visit of the client and pronounce the
results just by looking at the horoscope of
the native without being prompted by the
client the reasons for his visit? These are the
questions which haunted me for long.
Further, there is one more reason why my
thoughts cruised in this direction. When a
patient visits a doctor he himself tells the
doctor the problems/symptoms which he is
suffering from for a correct diagnosis and
suggesting the medicine. Here the patient is
very cautious while explaining his problems
to the doctor as he is aware that a probable
wrong diagnosis by the doctor may suggest
him wrong medicine for which he has to
undergo side effects if such a medicine is
administered. Whereas when he visits an

astrologer he expects the astrologer to identify the purpose of his visit and all his problems
just by going through his birth chart (most of the times the birth data may not be accurate)
and pronounce the result and suggest remedies. He expects that an astrologer must be
equipped with such knowledge and, when an astrologer fails to do so, his opinion of the
astrologer is lessened. There is no problem if the client forms such an opinion on an
astrologer but it is a concern if he forms such an opinion on the science of astrology.

f course, there are so many methods available to identify the purpose of visit of the
clients to the astrologer, from omens to body language to the direction of the
drifting of the light of the lamp by a village astrologer to the prashna by the modern
day astrologer. However, the environment in which the modern day astrologer lives in may
not permit him to use the traditional methods like omens, drifting of the light of lamp as
they have become not noticeable. One can use prashna to identify the purpose of visit of a
client. But is it possible to construct a prashna chart always? It may not be possible at times.
During such times is there a simple method to identify the purpose of the visit of the native
by looking at the natives chart.
With a view to know the purpose of the visit of a client to an astrologer, an attempt is
made to take the help of the Hora and the Sub-hora prevailing at the time of consultation. In
this method, the astrologer must be thorough with the calculation of the hora and sub-hora
for each day. It is well known that Hora means an hour. The hora has to be reckoned from
the sunrise time. First hora on a day will be ruled by the day lord. Further, sub-hora has to be
calculated in the sequence of the hora lords. In order to know the hora sequence, the
following table is helpful. The hora sequence is from the slowest moving planet (Saturn) to the
fastest moving planet (Moon).
Saturn

Jupiter

Mars

Sun

Venus

Mercury

Moon

Let us go through the hora sequence on a Monday for twenty four hours from Sun rise
to the next Sun rise (i.e. Tuesday). Assume that Sun rise time is at 6 AM.
6-7
Moon
13-14
Moon
20-21
Moon
3-4
Moon

7-8
Saturn
14-15
Saturn
21-22
Saturn
4-5
Saturn

8-9
Jupiter
15-16
Jupiter
22-23
Jupiter
5-6
Jupiter

9-10
Mars
16-17
Mars
23-24
Mars

10-11
Sun
17-18
Sun
00-1
Sun

11-12
Venus
18-19
Venus
1-2
Venus

12-13
Mercury
19-20
Mercury
2-3
Mercury

It could be seen from the above table that the first hora on Tuesday will be of its lord
Mars. Further it can be observed that the same hora repeats after every seven hours.
Now let us see the sequence of the sub-hora lords. An hour contains 60 minutes and
there are seven hora lords in number. If we divide an hour by seven we get 8 minutes
approximately. Therefore, there will be seven sub-horas in an hour. The first sub-hora in any
hora is ruled by the Hora lord and the sequence goes on in the Hora sequence.

With the help of Hora and Sub-hora it was tried to identify the purpose of the visit of
the client by looking at his natal chart. It is experienced that in most cases either the Hora or
the Sub-hora lord is giving the hint as to the nature of query the client may pose. Now let us
go through some charts where with the help of hora and sub-hora using which the purpose of
the visit of the client was predicted successfully.

Rules
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III.

For the above purpose one needs to have the natal chart of the client and
Identify the hora and sub hora at the time of consultation.
One should also know the exact time of Sun rise at the place of consultation.

Chart No. 1

The native of this chart approached scribe on 31-03-2009 at 15:33 hrs. It was a Tuesday
and the Sun rise time was at 06:14. The hora prevailing at the time was of Venus and the Sub-hora
was of Mercury. Now in the natal chart Venus is the 2nd and 9th lord and Mercury is the 1st
and 10th lord. The lords of 2nd, 1st and 10th are concerned with profession and the 9th lord is of
luck (bhagya). The native came to enquire about his prospects for profession. In this case the hora
and the sub-hora clearly indicated the purpose of visit of the client.

Chart No. 2
The below native approached on 5th April 2009 at about 10:59 am on Sunday and the Sun rise
time was 06:11. The hora prevailing at that time was of Saturn and the Sub-hora ruled by Moon. In
the natal chart the hora lord Saturn is located in the 6th house and the sub-hora lord Moon is
located in the 10th house, both indicating profession. The native asked about his profession.
Further, native was running Rahu-Saturn-Saturn dasha. Predominantly the karaka for
profession Saturn was indicating the purpose of consultation.

Chart No 3.

The native approached on 5th April 2009 at about 11:02 am on Sunday and Sunrise time was
6:11 am. The hora prevailing at that time was of Saturn and the Sub-hora ruled by Moon. In the
natal chart Saturn was the 10th lord and Moon the 3rd lord. The hora lord indicates that the
question is regarding profession and the sub hora lord Moon indicates change. The native
asked regarding changing his job.

Chart No. 4

The above native approached on 5th April 2009 at around 10:54 am on Sunday and Sunrise
time was 6:11 am. The hora prevailing at the time was of Saturn and the sub-hora was of Mercury.
In the birth chart Saturn is the 7th lord and Mercury is 12th lord. The native was running
Saturn-Mercury dasha. He asked scribe regarding getting a job abroad. Saturn being the 7th lord
indicates work in foreign country and Mercury being the 12th lord indicates long distance travel.

Chart No. 5

The above native approached on 5th April 2009 at around 03:24 pm on Sunday and Sunrise
time was 6:11 am. The hora prevailing at the time was of Mercury and the sub-hora was of Moon.
In the birth chart Mercury is the 7th and 10th lord and Moon is the 8th lord posited in 5th house
of love. This indicates the question will be regarding 7th house and 5th house. The person
asked the prospects of his marriage.

Chart No. 6
The chart given below is of a lady. Her father consulted scribe on 9th April 2009 at 11:18 am
on a Thursday. Sunrise time was 06:09 am. Hora prevailing at the time of consultation was of
Moon and the sub-hora was of Saturn. Please see the chart the hora lord Moon is the 12th lord
posited in the 7th house and Saturn is the 7th lord. This clearly indicates that the question is
regarding 7th house and Moon being the 12th lord indicates disturbances in the marital life.
The question was regarding marital harmony.

Chart no. 7
The below chart is also of a lady. This chart was given on 17th April 2009 at 12:55 pm. It was a
Friday, Sunrise time was 06:02 am and the hora prevailing at the time of consultation was of Mars
and the Sub hora was of Jupiter. In the natives chart Mars is the 3rd and 8th lord the most
malefic functionally and Jupiter is the 7th lord posited in its debilitation rashi. Both are
indicating that there is definitely some problems in the natives life regarding her marital life.
The question was also regarding marital disharmony prevailing between the husband and wife.

Chart No. 8

The chart is pertaining to a girl pursuing her studies. The chart was given on 17th April 2009
at evening 06:39. It was a Friday and the hora prevailing at that time was of Mars and the sub
hora was of Saturn. In the birth chart Mars is 4th and 9th lord and Saturn is the 6th and 7th lord.
The hora lord Mars indicates the question may be regarding education. The girl asked scribe
whether there will be any breaks in her education. Later scribe understood that there is a
break in her education due to a love affair. Then I understood the significance of the sub
hora lord Saturn located in the 5th house in the birth chart.
Writing in retrospect at times it is very easy to predict with this method, at times the hora and sub hora
lord create a slight puzzle which a discerning and intuitive astrologer can unravel maybe easily. We
leave it to the readers to experiment further with this method and, one thing is sure, the more we
practice with this method on 40-50 charts the more one would become adept in using this method.

Hora Table
Note: Horas have to be counted from the time of sun rise only for understanding the system of hora fixed timing of sun
rise has been taken as 06:00 am every day.
Monday

6-7
Moon
13-14
Moon
20-21
Moon
3-4
Moon

7-8
Saturn
14-15
Saturn
21-22
Saturn
4-5
Saturn

8-9
Jupiter
15-16
Jupiter
22-23
Jupiter
5-6
Jupiter

9-10
Mars
16-17
Mars
23-24
Mars

10-11
Sun
17-18
Sun
00-1
Sun

11-12
Venus
18-19
Venus
1-2
Venus

12-13
Mercury
19-20
Mercury
2-3
Mercury

Tuesday

6-7
Mars
13-14
Mars
20-21
Mars
3-4
Mars

7-8
Sun
14-15
Sun
21-22
Sun
4-5
Sun

8-9
Venus
15-16
Venus
22-23
Venus
5-6
Venus

9-10
Mercury
16-17
Mercury
23-24
Mercury

10-11
Moon
17-18
Moon
00-1
Moon

11-12
Saturn
18-19
Saturn
1-2
Saturn

12-13
Jupiter
19-20
Jupiter
2-3
Jupiter

10-11
Mars
17-18
Mars
00-1
Mars

11-12
Sun
18-19
Sun
1-2
Sun

12-13
Venus
19-20
Venus
2-3
Venus

11-12
Moon
18-19
Moon
1-2
Moon

12-13
Saturn
19-20
Saturn
2-3
Saturn

Wednesday

6-7
Mercury
13-14
Mercury
20-21
Mercury
3-4
Mercury

7-8
Moon
14-15
Moon
21-22
Moon
4-5
Moon

8-9
Saturn
15-16
Saturn
22-23
Saturn
5-6
Saturn

9-10
Jupiter
16-17
Jupiter
23-24
Jupiter

Thursday

6-7
Jupiter
13-14
Jupiter
20-21
Jupiter
3-4
Jupiter

7-8
Mars
14-15
Mars
21-22
Mars
4-5
Mars

8-9
Sun
15-16
Sun
22-23
Sun
5-6
Sun

9-10
Venus
16-17
Venus
23-24
Venus

10-11
Mercury
17-18
Mercury
00-1
Mercury

Friday

6-7
Venus
13-14
Venus
20-21
Venus
3-4
Venus

7-8
Mercury
14-15
Mercury
21-22
Mercury
4-5
Mercury

8-9
Moon
15-16
Moon
22-23
Moon
5-6
Moon

9-10
Saturn
16-17
Saturn
23-24
Saturn

10-11
Jupiter
17-18
Jupiter
00-1
Jupiter

11-12
Mars
18-19
Mars
1-2
Mars

12-13
Sun
19-20
Sun
2-3
Sun

Saturday

6-7
Saturn
13-14
Saturn
20-21
Saturn
3-4
Saturn

7-8
Jupiter
14-15
Jupiter
21-22
Jupiter
4-5
Jupiter

8-9
Mars
15-16
Mars
22-23
Mars
5-6
Mars

9-10
Sun
16-17
Sun
23-24
Sun

10-11
Venus
17-18
Venus
00-1
Venus

11-12
Mercury
18-19
Mercury
1-2
Mercury

12-13
Moon
19-20
Moon
2-3
Moon

6-7
Sun
13-14
Sun
20-21
Sun
3-4
Sun

7-8
Venus
14-15
Venus
21-22
Venus
4-5
Venus

8-9
Mercury
15-16
Mercury
22-23
Mercury
5-6
Mercury

9-10
Moon
16-17
Moon
23-24
Moon

10-11
Saturn
17-18
Saturn
00-1
Saturn

11-12
Jupiter
18-19
Jupiter
1-2
Jupiter

12-13
Mars
19-20
Mars
2-3
Mars

Sunday

Sub Hora Table

One Sub Hora Is Of 8:34 Minutes Approximately

Note: sub hora has to be reckoned from the start of the hora. Approximate divisions of sub
hora has been made ignoring the seconds. Therefore there is a difference of only 0.02 mts at
the end of each hora.

Saturn Hora:
1. SATURN SATURN

0 mts

8.34 mts

2. SATURN JUPITER

8.34 mts

17.08 mts

3. SATURN MARS

17.08 mts _

25.42 mts

4. SATURN SUN

25.42mts _

34.16 mts

5. SATURN _ VENUS

34.16 mts _

42.50mts

6. SATURN _ MERCURY

42.50mts _

51.24mts

7. SATURN _ MOON

51.24mts _

59.58mts

Jupiter Hora:
1. JUPITER JUPITER

0 mts

8.34 mts

2. JUPITER MARS

8.34 mts

17.08 mts

3. JUPITER SUN

17.08 mts _

25.42 mts

4. JUPITER - VENUS

25.42mts

34.16 mts

5. JUPITER - MERCURY

34.16 mts _

42.50mts

6. JUPITER MOON

42.50mts _

51.24mts

7. JUPITER SATURN

51.24mts _

59.58mts

Mars Hora:
1. MARS MARS

0 mts

8.34 mts

2. MARS SUN

8.34 mts

17.08 mts

3. MARS - VENUS

17.08 mts _

25.42 mts

4 MARS - MERCURY

25.42mts _

34.16 mts

5. MARS MOON

34.16 mts _

42.50mts

6. MARS SATURN

42.50mts _

51.24mts

7. MARS JUPITER

51.24mts

59.58mts

Sun Hora
1. SUN - SUN

0 mts

8.34 mts

2. SUN- VENUS

8.34 mts

17.08 mts

3. SUN - MERCURY

17.08 mts _

25.42 mts

4 SUN- MOON

25.42mts

34.16 mts

5. SUN - SATURN

34.16 mts _

42.50mts

6. SUN JUPITER

42.50mts _

51.24mts

7. SUN MARS

51.24mts

59.58mts

Venus Hora
1. VENUS - VENUS

0 mts

8.34 mts

2. VENUS - MERCURY

8.34 mts

17.08 mts

3. VENUS MOON

17.08 mts

25.42 mts

4 VENUS - SATURN

25.42mts

34.16 mts

5. VENUS - JUPITER

34.16 mts

42.50mts

6. VENUS - MARS

42.50mts

51.24mts

7. VENUS SUN

51.24mts

59.58mts

Mercury Hora
1. MERCURY -MERCURY

0 mts

8.34 mts

2. MERCURY MOON

8.34 mts

17.08 mts

3. MERCURY - SATURN

17.08 mts _

25.42 mts

4 MERCURY JUPITER

25.42mts _

34.16 mts

5. MERCURY MARS

34.16 mts _

42.50mts

6. MERCURY SUN

42.50mts _

51.24mts

7. MERCURY VENUS

51.24mts _

59.58mts

Moon Hora
1. MOON - MOON

0 mts

8.34 mts

2. MOON SATURN

8.34 mts

17.08 mts

3. MOON JUPITER

17.08 mts _

25.42 mts

4 MOON MARS

25.42mts _

34.16 mts

5. MOON SUN

34.16 mts _

42.50mts

6. MOON VENUS

42.50mts _

51.24mts

7. MOON - MERCURY

51.24mts

59.58mts