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Second Interview - Model of the World


In this interview, your target is more global. You'll want to learn more about the internal
context surrounding the targeted skill. Gather information about how the skill fits into the
Model's Model of the World. The higher Neurological Levels will serve as useful
guidelines in this process. Explore these questions at a minimum:
SPIRIT

How does the Model conceive of her larger connection in the Universe?
What spiritual connections are present in the skill?
Does she feel guided or connected to a force outside herself in this
context? How?

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IDENTITY

Is there something unique or unusual about the Model that contributes to


this ability?
What role do they play with others as they do the skill?

BELIEFS

What makes this behavior possible?


Are there limits to it, internal or external?
What makes it worthwhile?
How does it fit in with their values?
What is important to them about this skill?
What is important about the skill?
What criteria do they use to do it/evaluate it?

Notice especially presuppositions, values, criteria, complex equivalences and causeeffects in their descriptions of the skill and the context in which they use the skill.
CAPABILITY/BEHAVIOR/ENVIRONMENT
Gather more detail and clean up any missing or unclear information from
your first (GEO) interview with your Model.

Appendix C- Page 18

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1998 - 2003 NLP Comprehensive
PO Box 927
Evergreen, CO 80437

Identify the relevant Meta-Programs in your Model's MOW


People
Content
Things
Activities
Information
Place
Perceptual Position

Self
Other
Observer

Time Frame

Past
Present

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Present
Future
General
Natural
Specific

Scope

You can ask these questions directly. The quality of the information is sometimes higher,
though, if you gather this information conversationally (engaging less of the Model's
conscious attention). Get the Model to talk about the skill, about themselves as they do it,
about the differences between themselves and those who are unable to do it. Later you
can analyze the data you gathered for each of the categories you want to describe.
If it's available, some people find it helpful to record the modeling sessions on tape. It
frees the Modeler's conscious mind to attend to the Model, knowing that they can go
back through the conversation on tape sorting for other categories. Some categories will
be highly relevant, others irrelevant. Usually the most important ones emerge naturally in
conversation. You can always ask later about any categories you miss.
After this interview, you'll organize the information you've gathered, starting with your
understanding of the GEO, then sorting the Model of the World information for the parts
that are relevant (support the skill/response you're modeling) or irrelevant (don't support
it in any meaningful way). At this point, you should have tried the GEO and have
sufficient experience in Second Position with your Model to know what aspects of the
skill you have modeled and what aspects remain. The remaining aspects and any
clarification you need are the subject for your Third Interview, if you need one.

Appendix C- Page 19

1998 Lara Ewing


1998 - 2003 NLP Comprehensive
PO Box 927
Evergreen, CO 80437

Demonstration of Proficiency
This is the session in which you demonstrate your own proficiency in the Model's skill.
Becau se the nature of the projects w ill differ widely, these sess ions will be diverse. If
your project centered around developing instant rapport with strangers, you, your
Assistant and any other observers may need to hold the Demonstration in a public place.
If your target was to model a Yoga position, it could be held in the training room. We
encourage you to deliver your Demonstration to at least 3 people - your Assistant
(required), the Model, and at least one person who has not been involved in your project.
Your Demonstration should include:
a behav ioral demonstra tion of the skill. Simply do it.

an explication of the Mo de l' s GEO and supportin g Mod el of the World.


You describe it in sufficient detail that your Assistant and group can replicate the

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You describe it in sufficient detail that your Assistant and group can replicate the
skill with some practice.
any suppor ting evide nce of your proficiency - survey results/tes ts/a completed
sculpture or business project plan, etc.
a question and answe r per iod.

You should plan on a minimum of an hour for your Demonstration.

Follow-up, Evaluation
This is an optional session held with your Assistant or with another participant to debrief
the Modeling Project. Think of it as an opportunity for tape-editing.
What went well?
What would you do the same way over again?
What obstacles did you encounter, expected or unexpected?
How did you handle them?
What are some other ways you might have handled them?
Wer e there other resources you might have called upon or used?
Did you make it more difficult than it needed to be in any way? How?
Is there anything that you wouldn't do the same way, if you had it to do over?
What surprises did you encounter?
What did you discover about yourself in this process?

1998

Lara

Ewing

Appendix C - Page 20

1998 - 2003 NLP Comprehensive


PO Box 927
Evergreen, CO 80437

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