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Northside Debate 2010-11

Luu

D rule

1Ns Burden
Caminer

1AR: 1Ns Burden Shell................................................................................................................... 1


Freedom Net Benefit....................................................................................................................... 1
U.S. Russia War Net Benefit............................................................................................................ 3
A2: 1NR Important/No voter............................................................................................................ 8
A2: Make a sandwich during 1AR.................................................................................................... 9
A2: Aff Needs to Make a Sandwich Too.......................................................................................... 10
A2: 2N beating up the 1N during the 2NR..................................................................................... 11
A2: Put it on the tab (Ill get a lot of sandwiches later).................................................................12
A2: 2N didnt ask........................................................................................................................... 13
A2: 2N asked but didnt get anything............................................................................................ 14
A2: Trieu, 2010/Beat up the 1N..................................................................................................... 15

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1AR: 1Ns Burden Shell

1Ns Burden
Caminer

Sign your ballot now, the negative has dropped their only obligation and that is the 1N's burden.
Our interpretation of debate is the aff presents a topical plan and the negative defends a
competing policy option, criticism, or the status quo with the 1N making the 2N a sandwich for
the final negative speech.
And we have a few net-benefits:
a. Tradition - since the days of Bill Shanahan, 1N's have been making sandwiches for their
partners.
b. 2N reciprocity - 2N's do a lot of work, they need some recognition, the terminal impact to
this is fairness, it's only fair that the debater who does most if not the entirety of the work
gets the entirety of the sandwich.
c. Education - the things we talk about are largely constructed but learning how to make a
sandwich is the sort of real-world education we should be striving to get out of debate.
This kind of education is the only kind that we will be using every day for the rest of our
lives.
d. Jurisdiction - if the 1N doesn't hustle during prep time and during this speech you have a
prima facie duty to vote aff.
e. Being neg key2Ns carry the negative ship on their back but the 2A needs the 1AR to win.
Its only fair that the 2N gets a sandwich.
And here comes the offense:
a. Double reverse voting issue - letting the neg get away without making a sandwich makes
it a double reverse no-risk option.
b. Our ability to affect the world - the world is inherently hungry and people will not listen
unless you bring something to the table. Thus in debates we have to literally bring things
to the metaphorical table, or else all the skills we learn and develop will be futile.
1Ns should make the sandwiches. Specifically, condiments are key to the judges
decision calculus and are good for clash.
Caminer, 10Debater at Northside College Prep, the go-to expert for 1N sandwich making. (Mitchell, 7/16,10- Policy Debate,
subsection called 1Ns burden. Look at edit history on the page and click the respective link. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?
title=Policy_debate&oldid=373840256)
A common misconception is that pb+j is the way to go. 1N's often forget that many 2N's either don't like the pb+j, or has a partner

1N's should instead focus on


finding 2N specific sandwiches that will maximize 2NR efficiency . For Tom, I've empirically found that no
matter what the sandwich is, having a quality Panini-maker has acted as a force multiplier . The following is
basic advice for 1Ns looking to improve their sandwich making skills. For bread choice, it needs to be hearty but simple .
Many debaters mistakenly think a multi-grain option is the best since it is healthiest, I'm here to tell you not to do that. Instead, go
with an Italian loaf, baguette, Kaiser roll, or even the simple Wonder Bread. The most important
part of the sandwich is the meat . 1N's should find meats that both taste good and hold up over the
course of the tournament. The flavor should be present, but not overwhelming. Be careful to avoid messy meat , as it
could get on a flow or laptop. Roast beef, turkey, salami, ham, and grilled chicken have worked best
depending on the round (tailor the meat to the 2NR strat). For vegetarians, boca burgers and falafel are solid choices.
Vegetables are also a crucial component to the ideal sandwich. A prepared 1N should have a veggie toolbox that is both
flexible and complementary. Lettuce (romaine and iceberg), tomatoes, cucumbers, pickles, onions and peppers
(as many varieties as possible) are a must. 1Ns should also be prepared for the whims of their partner, so
crunchy noodles, relish, zucchini, bean sprouts, beets, and olives (black AND green) are all
advanced options. Many 1Ns overestimate the importance of cheese. While it is a key centerpiece, it is often
overwhelmed on the palate by other things on the sandwich. Some general tips: avoid American or Velveeta,
and cater the cheese choice to the meat. Know key combos like roast beef and provolone, ham and swiss,
and others to save time instead of contemplating the proper cheese during your 1NR. If you learn
nothing else from this introduction to sandwich-making, the choice of condiments can make or break whether
or not the judge votes neg. First and foremost is the use of mayonnaise; never forget to bring it, but
dont put on too much unless you want your 2N to drop the permutation. And studies have shown that the quality
of the line-by-line is directly proportional to the type of mayonnaise on the sandwich ,
that is allergic to peanuts (like Tom is). While a pb+j may be a good generic b or c strat,

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1Ns Burden
Caminer

Brands are also key; whenever possible avoid generic brands and get something like
stay up to date on the mustard harvest , and purchase updates as necessary.
Know the differences between deli , Dijon, honey Dijon, etc. A prepared 1N will also have nontraditional condiments, such as olive oil, vinegar, raspberry vinaigrette, etc. That should be a good
so dont go with the light.

Heilmans. Additionally, make sure you

primer for all the 1Ns out there. Many of the top 1Ns in history have carried extra tubs and professional-quality equipment in an
often successful effort to be the best possible 1N. Feel free to ask further questions, as this has really only scratched the surface of
sandwich making

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Freedom Net Benefit

1Ns Burden
Caminer

Sandwiches are key to freedom


Caminer, 2010-- Debater at Northside College Prep, the go-to expert for 1N sandwich making. (Mitchell, 8/24/,10- Why
are sandwiches key to freedom? http://www.formspring.me/northsidedebate)

Sandwiches are the literal and symbolic anchors of freedom and democracy, both home and abroad.
They represent all that is good in the present, and all that is potential in the future. In their versatility to be both a simple
snack or a luxurious meal, sandwiches are an attainable right that everyone has a right to . Policymakers
should use a decision-rule calculus based on what policy results in the most sandwiches, since
even one denial of a sandwich is a slippery slope that risks removal of all rights.
Violation of freedom negates the value of human existence and represents the
greatest threat to human survival
Rand 89 (Ayn Rand, Philosopher, July 1989, The Virtue of Selfishness: A New Concept of Egoism, p. 145)
A society that robs and individual of the product of his effort, or enslaves him, or attempts to limit the
freedom of his mind, or compels him to act against his own rational judgment, a society that sets up a conflict
between its ethics and the requirements of mans nature is not, strictly speaking, a society, but a mob held together
by institutionalized gang-rule. Such a society destroys all values of human coexistence, has

no possible justification, and represents, not a source of benefits, but the deadliest threat to mans
survival. Life on desert island is safer than and incomparably preferable than existence in
Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany.
Violations of freedom and justice must be evaluated before every other impact
Petro 74. -- Sylvester Petro, Prof of Law @ Wake Forest U, University of Toledo Law Review, pg. 4801)
However, one may still insist, echoing Ernest Hemingway - "I believe in only one thing: liberty." And it is always well to bear in mind

it is unacceptable to say that


the invasion of one aspect of freedom is of no import because there have been invasions of so
many other aspects. That road leads to chaos, tyranny, despotism, and the end of all human
aspiration . Ask Solzhenitsyn. Ask Milovan Djilas. In sum, if one believes in freedom as a supreme value and the Proper ordering;
principle for any society aiming to maximize spiritual and material welfare, then every invasion of freedom must be
emphatically identified and resisted with undying spirit.
David Hume's observation: " It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." Thus,

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U.S. Russia War Net Benefit

1Ns Burden
Caminer

Sandwich-making in debates is modeled at the government level; key to solve USRussian relations
Luu, 10debater at Northside College Prep (Norman, 8/30/10, U.S. Foreign Policy, Debates, and Sandwiches: More Similar Than
You Thought)

sandwiches liberating and scrumptious, but they also provide a way to fashion new views on
foreign policy. Tensions between the United States and Russia are at a fairly high level in the status
quo, as the new START has not been ratified, as well as a part on the Obama administration for not
pushing towards more communications between the two superpowers. However, the biggest stumbling
block to relations is the lack of sandwich exchange on both sides. Sandwiches provide a useful way to repair
damaged relations because leaders of countries world-wide, whatever the circumstances, would always
accept the tasty snack. But, the provision of sandwiches on the opposite party is not enough;
people within the governments of Russia and the United States must provide sandwiches to their
leader as well. This method of saving relations is not just limited to the governmental level. Individuals who
participate in public spheres or argumentation, especially that of policy debate, replicate the same kind of
tensions between the two countries. Therefore, through the provision of sandwiches, between
teammates in particular, is the best way to show to the government that sandwiches are the best
option when dealing with U.S.-Russian relations. However , be forewarned; much like it would be
illogical for Obama to hand out sandwiches to the citizens, it would be illogical for the stronger
player on a team to provide sandwiches for the weakling. Teams with both members playing a crucial
part in keeping the debate alive should not include the sandwich-exchange process; however,
when one player is carrying the burden of the debate on his shoulders (and with the other
teammate tagging along for the ride), the weaker player should give the team leader the tasty
sandwich snack.
Not only are

2. Extinction

Caldicott 2002 (Helen- Founder of Physicians for Social Responsibility, The new
nuclear danger, p. 7-12)
If launched from Russia, nuclear weapons would explode over American cities thirty
minutes after takeoff. (China's twenty missiles are liquidfueled, not solid-fueled. They
take many hours to fuel and could not be used in a surprise attack, but they would
produce similar damage if launched. Other nuclear-armed nations, such as India and
Pakistan, do not have the missile technology to attack the U.S.) It is assumed that most
cities with a population over 100,000 people are targeted by Russia. During these thirty
minutes, the U.S. early-warning infrared satellite detectors signal the attack to the
strategic air command in Colorado. They in turn notify the president, who has
approximately three minutes to decide whether or not to launch a counterattack. In the
counterforce scenario the US. government currently embraces, he does [the U.S.]
launch[es], the missiles pass mid-space, and the whole operation is over within one hour.
Landing at 20 times the speed of sound, nuclear weapons explode over cities, with heat
equal to that inside the center of the sun.

There is practically no

warning, except the emergency broadcast system on

radio or TV, which gives the public only minutes to reach the nearest fallout shelter, assuming

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There is no time to
collect children

1Ns Burden
Caminer

there is one.

or immediate family members. The

bomb, or bombs-because most major cities will be hit with more than one explosion-will
gouge out craters 200 feet deep and 1000 feet in diameter if they explode at ground
level. Most, however, are programmed to produce an air burst, which increases the
diameter of destruction, but creates a shallower crater. Half a mile from the epicenter all
buildings will be destroyed, and at 1.7 miles only reinforced concrete buildings will
remain. At 2.7 miles bare skeletons of buildings still stand, single-family residences have
disappeared, 50 percent are dead and 40 percent severely injured.' Bricks and

mortar are converted to missiles traveling at hundreds of miles an hour.


Bodies have been sucked out of buildings and converted to
missiles themselves, flying through the air at loo miles per hour. Severe

overpressures (pressure many times greater than normal atmospheric have popcorned
windows, producing millions of shards of flying glass, causing decapitations and shocking
lacerations. Overpressures have also entered the nose, mouth, and ears, inducing
rupture of lungs and rupture of the tympanic membranes or eardrums. Most people will
suffer severe burns. In Hiroshima, which was devastated by a very small bomb-13
kilotons compared to the current iooo kilotons

-a

child actually

disappeared, vaporized, leaving his shadow


on the concrete pavement behind him. A
mother was running, holding her baby, and both she
and the baby were converted to a charcoal statue. The
heat will be so intense that dry objects-furniture, clothes, and dry wood-will
spontaneously ignite.

Humans will become

walking, flaming
torches

. Forty or fifty miles from the explosion people will instantly

be blinded from retinal burns if they glance at the flash. Huge firestorms will engulf
thousands of square miles, fanned by winds from the explosion that transiently exceed
1000 miles per hour. People in fallout shelters will be asphyxiated as fire sucks oxygen
from the shelters. (This happened in Hamburg after the Allied bombing in WWII when
temperatures within the shelters, caused by conventional bombs, reached 1472 degrees

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1Ns Burden
Caminer

Most of the city and its people will be


converted to radioactive dust shot up in the mushroom
Fahrenheit.)"

cloud. The area of lethal fallout from this cloud will depend upon the prevailing wind and
weather conditions; it could cover thousands of square miles. Doses of 5000 rads (a rad
is a measure of radiation dose) or more experienced by people close to the explosion-if
they are still aliv-will produce acute encephalopathic syndrome. The cells of the brain will
become so damaged that they would swell. Because the brain is enclosed in a fixed bony
space, there is no room for swelling, so the pressure inside the skull rises, inducing
symptoms of excitability, acute nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, severe headache, and
seizures, followed by coma and death within twenty-four hours. A lower dose of 1000
rads causes death from gastrointestinal symptoms. The lining cells of the gut die, as do
the cells in the bone marrow that fight infection and that cause blood clotting. Mouth
ulcers, loss of appetite, severe colicky abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, and

bloody diarrhea occur within


seven to fourteen days. Death follows severe fluid
loss, infection, hemorrhage, and starvation. At 450 rads, 50 percent of the population

bloody
diarrhea
occurs
dies. Hair drops out, vomiting and

, accompanied by bleeding under the skin and

from the gums. Death occurs from internal hemorrhage, generalized septicemia, and
infection. Severe trauma and injuries exacerbate the fallout symptoms, so patients die
more readily from lower doses of radiation. Infants, children, and old people are more
sensitive to radiation than healthy adults. Within bombed areas, fatalities will occur from
a combination of trauma, burns, radiation sickness, and starvation. There will be virtually
no medical care, even for the relief of pain, because most physicians work within The
United States owns 103 nuclear power plants, plus many other dangerous radioactive
facilities related to past activities of the cold war. A 1000- kiloton bomb (1 megaton)
landing on a standard iooo megawatt reactor and its cooling pools, which contain
intensely radioactive spent nuclear fuel, would permanently contaminate an .' area the
size of western Germany3 The International Atomic Energy Agency now considers these

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facilities to be attractive terrorist targets, ' post-September 11,2001. Millions of decaying


bodies-human and animal alike-will rot, infected with viruses and bacteria that will
mutate in the radioactive-environment to become more lethal. Trillions of insects,
naturally ' resistant to radiation-flies, fleas, cockroaches, and lice--will transmit disease
from the dead to the living, to people whoseimmune mechanisms have been severely
compromised by the high levels of background radiation. Rodents will multiply by the
millions among the corpses and shattered sewerage systems. Epidemics of diseases
now controlled by immunization and good hygiene will reappear: such as measles, polio,
typhoid, cholera, whooping cough, diphtheria, smallpox, plague,tuberculosis, meningitis,
malaria, and hepatitis. Anyone who makes it to a fallout shelter and is not asphyxiated in
it, will need to stay there for at least six months until the radiation decayssufficiently so

older people
should be sent outside to scavenge for food
because they will not live long enough to
develop malignancies from the fallout (cancer and
outside survival is possible. It has been postulated that perhaps

leukemia have long incubation periods ranging from five to sixty But any food that
manages to grow will be toxic because plantsconcentrate radioactive elements.*/ Finally,
we must examine the systemic global effects of a nuclear . , war. Firestorms will consume
oil wells, chemical facilities, cities, and forests, coveringthe earth with a blanket of thick,
black, radioactive , I I ' smoke, reducing sunlight to 17 percent of normal. One year or
more ' ) , will be required for light and temperature to return to normalper-"r haps
supranormal values, as sunlight would return to more than its , , usual intensity,
enhanced in the ultraviolet spectrum by depletion of the stratospheric ozone layer.
Subfreezingtemperatures could destroy the biological support system for civilization,
resulting in massive starvation, thirst, and hypothermia.5 To quote a 1985 SCOPE
documentpublished by the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, "the
total loss of human agricultural and societal support systems would result in the loss of
almost all humans on Earth, essentially equally among combatant and noncombatant
countries alike . . . this vulnerability is an aspect not currentlya part of the understanding
of nuclear war; not only are the major combatant countries in danger, but virtually the
entire human population is being held hostage to the large-scale use of nuclear weapons.
. . .",! i The proposedSTART I11 treaty between Russia and America, even if it were
implemented, would still allow 3000 to 5000 hydrogen bombs to be maintained on
alert."he threshold for nuclear winter? One thousand loo-kiloton bombsblowing up loo
cities7-a I c distinct possibility given current capabilities and targeting plans. On January
25,1995, military technicians at radar stations in northern Russia detected signals from
an American missile that hadjust been launched off the coast of Norway carrying a US.
scientific probe. Although the Russians had been previously notified of this launch, the
alert had been forgotten or ignored. Aware that US. submarines could launcha missile
containing eight deadly hydrogen bombs fifteen minutes from Moscow, Russian officials
assumed that America had initiated a nuclear war. For the first time in history, the
Russian computer containing nuclearlaunch codes was opened. President Boris Yeltsin,
sitting at that computer being advised on how to launch a nuclear war by his military
officers, had only a threeminute interval to make a decision. At the last moment, the
US.missile veered off course. He realized that Russia was not under attack.' If Russia had
launched its missiles, the US. early-warning satellites would immediately have detected

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them, and radioed back to Cheyenne Mountain. This would have led to the notification of
the president, who also would have had three minutes to make his launch decision, and
America's missiles would then have been fired from their silos. We were thus within
minutes of global annihilation that day. ,' Today, Russia's early-warning and nuclear
command systems are deteriorating. Russia's early-warning system fails to operate up to
seven hours a day because only one-third of its radars are functional, and two of the nine
global geographical areas covered by its missilewarning satellites are not under
surveillance for missile detection.9 TO make matters worse, the equipment controlling
nuclear weapons malfunctions frequently, and critical electronic devices and computers
sometimes switch to combat mode for no apparent reason. According to the CIA, seven
times during the fall of 1996 operations at some Russian nuclear weapons facilities were
severely disrupted when robbers tried to "mine" critical communications cables for their
copper!'" This vulnerable Russian system could easily be stressed by an internal or
international political crisis, when the danger of accidental or indeed intentional nuclear
war would become very real. And the U.S. itself is not invulnerable to error. In August
1999, for example, when the National Imagery and Mapping Agency was installing a new
computer system to deal with potential Y2K problems, this operation triggered a
computer malfunction which rendered the agency "blind" for days; it took more than
eight months for the defect to be fully repaired. As the New York Times reported, part of
America's nuclear early-warning system was rendered incompetent for almost a year."

I was sitting at a meeting in the west wing of the White House


discussing potentially dangerous Y2K nuclear
weapons glitches. Several Pentagon officials blithely reassured me that
(At that time

everything would function normally during the roll-over. But in fact, their intelligence
system had already been disabled.) Such a situation has the potential for catastrophe. If
America cannot observe what the Russians are doing with their nuclear weapons-or vice
versa-especially during a serious international crisis they are likely to err on the side of

the launch of a
weather satellite could actually trigger
"caution," which could mean that something as benign as

annihilation of the planet.This situation became even


more significant after the September 11 attack.

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A2: 1NR Important/No voter

1Ns Burden
Caminer

And, the 1NR is a worthless speech; 1Ns only role in the debate is to provide
nourishment for the 2N debater. Sandwiches are a voting issue.
Nelson, 10Debater at Dowling Catholic High School, 9 people liked his comment on facebook. (Joe, 8/22/10, i didnt drop the
perm, it was illusory http://www.facebook.com/#!/tomenator?v=wall&story_fbid=141690385869268&ref=notif&notif_t=like)
There comes a point in every debate where a certain speaker ( the

1N) gives a speech that does not matter. The


2N may play it up to be an important speech to fool the opposing team ; however, they never actually
metaphorically go for what was literally in the 1NR . The 2N also becomes very hungry from carrying the entire
negative ship on their back. Therefore, simple logic exploits that the 1N, instead of speaking about reverse-ASPEC bad,
should take the time to prepare a high quality sandwich for the 2NR. This sandwich, similar to the
negative strategy, should not be the same every round. It should reflect the qualities of the
debate. For example, when the 2N takes the beef DA, it is appropriate that the 1NR pile on the beef.
Or when the debate is getting down to nitty-gritty topicality and theory, the 1N may consider
taking the crust off the sandwich. Condiments also are key assets to any 1NR sandwich. For example, if the
other team is handily beating the 2N (say at Kelly in the 7-0 round), the 1NR may include mayonnaise as
a white flag to the dominant team. If the 2N has the other team clobbered (hitting Westminster TA), the
1NR will consider adding excess ketchup, symbolizing the bloodshed that is taking place . What is key
in every 1NR sandwich, indefinitely, is that it is tailored to the 2N's taste and always original . For a full
history on 1NR sandwiches or insight as to how it may become a 1AR voting issue if the 1NR fails to
present a sandwich for the 2N, contact Mitchell Caminer. He definitely knows the in's and out's of 1NR sandwiches
bun-to-bun.

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A2: Make a sandwich during 1AR

1Ns Burden
Caminer

The damage has been done; the 2N needs to prep with a sandwich. The 1AR is
not 1NR prep time.
Marks, 10never backs down, debater at Ft. Lauderdale High School. (Zack, /24/10- Why is it too late if the 1N makes the
sandwich during or after the 1AR? http://www.formspring.me/northsidedebate)

The 2N has to be ready to go for anything the 1AR covers shittily ; and the 1AR is not 1NR prep,
it is key to have the 2NR prepping and eating a sandwich at the same time. This can not happen
if he/she is also flowing, that's the key internal link to not sucking in the debate round. That is why
the so called 1NR is actually just prep that the 1N must make the sandwich so that 2N can prep and eat a
sandwich.

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A2: Aff Needs to Make a Sandwich Too

1Ns Burden
Caminer

1. This argument is almost as ridiculous as the lack of a 2N sandwich. Extend the E subpoint
from the shell; being negative is key. Its the 1ns burden. 1ars are important to aff debate
2ars need to extend things from them. 1nrs have literally no worth.

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A2: 2N beating up the 1N during the 2NR

1Ns Burden
Caminer

Sign your ballot nowthanks for the show, but all the neg will get out of this is more
hatred, another black eye, and less sandwiches in the future. This exacerbates our
impact claims and also means you immediately vote aff.
Luu, 10debater at Northside College Prep (Norman, 8/30/10, U.S. Foreign Policy, Debates, and Sandwiches: More Similar Than
You Thought)

We all love fights once in a while, but only if the people fighting have morphers and megazords.
Conflict between teammates is heartbreaking. A partnership, one even closer in the activity of debate, should never
be split apart because of a simple lack of sandwich giving. Much like the relationship between citizens of
America and President Obama, the weaker member of the team should show some love; provide some
nourishment to the exhausted team leader. If a fight does break out, especially between teammates and
during a debate round, the judge should automatically vote against the violent team. Violence has never been
the answer; it has only lead to more deaths throughout history. By signing the ballot against the team that is
violent, he/she affirms the two true facts of life: (1) Violence is never the answer. And. (2)
Sandwiches are always well-deserved for the hardworking.

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1Ns Burden
Caminer

A2: Put it on the tab (Ill get a lot of sandwiches later)

1. Doesnt solvea. Freedom: Look to the Caminer evidence, he says that every human has a right to a
sandwich. The damage has been done, literallyand not punishing them for it
means pushes us down a slippery slope where nobody has freedom.
b. Teams who claim that sandwiches will be provided in the future always lie. Other
issues things can be put off; but sandwiches are the most pressing issue in the
debate.
c. Our Caminer evidence from the 1AR indicates that sandwiches (and condiments,
specifically) are directly proportional to the line-by-line on the flow. Prefer this
evidence because he cites studies done, which is much more predictable than their
claims

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A2: 2N didnt ask

1Ns Burden
Caminer

2. Concede this argument. There are two impacts.


a. They dont want the winsandwiches are the only thing that has any importance in
the debate round, cross-apply the Caminer evidence.
b. The 2N isnt taking leadershipits important to keep the 1N in line for future
rounds. Not voting on this argument ensures lack of sandwiches in the future.

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A2: 2N asked but didnt get anything

1Ns Burden
Caminer

3. Still vote them down for 1N laziness- they only have one job during negative rounds, thats
to make a single sandwich for the 2NR; vote them down if they are too unintelligent to
understand.
4. 2N should have pushed them harder: that analysis was in the 1ar, I shouldnt have to
explain it again.

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A2: Trieu, 2010/Beat up the 1N

1Ns Burden
Caminer

Counterplan doesn't solve and Tom Trieu is creepier than a piranha applying mascara
on a pogo stick. This card is the fire on the bees knees.
Caminer, 10-- Debater at Northside College Prep, the go-to expert for 1N sandwich making. (Mitchell, 8/30/10- Girls, Guns, and
(Selena) Gomez: A Summer at MNDI Plus Plus Plus)

Some authors (see Trieu, 2010) have proposed eliminating the voting issue attached to 1Ns
Burden Theory and instead causing physical harm to the 1N. While it would be appropriate to
cause bodily harm to an incompetent 1N, in no way would it be enough. As a result of their nerdiness,
unintelligence, and poor fashion taste, 1Ns are often beat up, abused, and harassed at school on
a daily basis. Therefore, further physical injury would not affect a 1N; instead, it is necessary to
destroy any sort of confidence that 1Ns have stored up as a result in their participation in
debate.
Voting the 1N down would serve as a reminder that they cannot help their smarter,
better partner, but that their only responsibility is to make their partner a sandwich.
However, there is nothing wrong with causing bodily harm in addition to voting the negative team
down.
Alternatively, one could vote the negative team down and beat up the 1N in all other instances.
Alternatively, one could vote the negative team down and consult with the judge on other
issues regarding the 1N.
Alternatively one could vote the negative team down and consult over the timeframe of how
long of a beating is necessary.
Alternatively, one could beat up the 1N in a world where the judge votes affirmative and just
simply vote down the negative in a world where the judge doesnt vote affirmative.
Furthermore, the author of the article has a questionable academic and personal history. Mr.
Trieu has reportedly been found trespassing on Selena Gomezs property. He claims he
was invited, but witness reports have confirmed that Mr. Trieu was not only uninvited, but
proceeded to take his clothes off for Ms. Gomez, while singing I love you Selena, you
belong with me. Academically, Mr. Trieu has defended false, immoral positions, at one time advocating the
annihilation of all White males dating Asian females. One also has to question his qualifications
to speak on 1N discipline, since his debate partner, the infamous Mitchell Caminer, has not only
dropped the 1Ns burden, but has been found clipping cards, tags, roadmaps, RFDs, crossexamination questions, expando indexes, novice lectures, judging philosophies, and
speaker awards. If Mr. Trieu could assert so strongly that causing physical harm to the 1N is so necessary, perhaps it should
have been more effective on his lazy and unethical partner (full disclosure: I am Tom Trieus debate partner).