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WhattodoifCPSShowsupatYourDoor
PostedonMay21,2015

Sometimeschildrenareharmedintheirhomes.Thisdoesnotmakeeveryparentasuspect.Inourcurrenthypervigilantage,
therearemoreparentsbeingreportedtoCPSthaneverbefore.

Lovingparentswhorefusearecommendedmedicaltreatmentfortheirchildcanbereportedbyadoctorwhomightfear
losinghislicensetopracticemedicine.
Neighborsorestrangedfamilymembersmayreportafamilydespitethelackofgroundstosupportanyallegationsof
abuse.
ParentswithasickchildseekingasecondopinionhavebeenreportedtoCPSbyhospitalormedicalauthorities.
SincemoreparentsareexperiencingavisitfromCPSthaneverbefore,andsince
sometimesthosevisitshaveresultedinthequickremovalofchildrendespite
nogroundstoallegationsofharmorabuseitiscriticallyimportantforeveryparent
tohaveagoodideaofhowtorespondtoaCPSvisit.Dontthinkitcanthappento
me.TakeanyvisitbyCPSseriously.
Themostsignificantmistakesmadebyparentsareusuallyintheveryfirst
encounter.IfyoucanunderstandhowtohandletheveryfirstencounterwithCPS,
youcanincreaseyourchancesofmaintainingyourfamilysrightsandfreedom.CPS
willoftenseektotakeafamilybysurprise.Beprepared.
1.THEKEY:Bepolite
&SAYASLITTLEASPOSSIBLE.Youmightbeterrifiedinside.
Youmightbeabsolutelyangryifyoufeelthereisinjusticegoingon,
butthenumberonethingyoucandoisstaycalmandbepolite.
Anythingyousaycanbetwisted.DoNOTDEFENDYOURSELF.
DoNOTvolunteerinformation.
2.DoNOTlettheminyourhouse.BenicebutSTAYFIRM.
HaveonestatementreadyandrepeatitoverandoverIknowyou
arejustdoingyourjob,butmymainobligationistomychildrenand
tohelpthemavoidunnecessarytrauma.Iftheydonothavea
warrantandthereisnoobviousemergency,theyarenot
allowedaccesstoyourhome.Ifapoliceofficeriswiththem,theyallknowitisillegaltoenterahomeunlessyou
CONSENT,orunlesstheyhaveawarrant,orcanhearanemergencysituationgoingon.DONOTCONSENT.

3.AskpermissiontoaskTHEMquestions.Irealizeyouarejustdoingyourjob.WoulditbeokifIaskedyouacoupleof
questions?Then,askifyoucanrecordtheconversation.Ifyouneedtogetyourcellphone,closethedoorandsay,Ineed
togetsomething.Thesearethequestionstoaskthem:
Firstly,doyouhavesomeidentification?AfteryougettheirID,writedowntheirname,thenask,Canyougivemethe
nameandphonenumberofyoursupervisor?Writeitalldown.Takeyourtime.
NextWhataretheexactallegationsthathavebeenmadeagainstme?FederallawrequiresthatIshouldbeinformedof
anyallegationsagainstme.
Askthemiftheyhaveawarrant.Bedirect.Doyouhaveawarranttosearchmyhomeorspeaktomychildren?Ifthey
produceawarrantmakesureitissignedbyajudgeanddated.
Withoutawarranttheymustgainyourconsenttoenteryourhomeorspeaktoyourchildren.Theyaredoingtheirjob.Their
supervisorhasinstructedthemtomakethisvisitandtheywillusewhatevertactictheyfeelwillbeeffectivetoGETMORE
INFORMATIONAGAINSTYOU.Theymayalternatebetween:tryingtobenice,beingfirm,threateningortryingtobargain
withyou.Stayimmunetoeverytactic.BeNice,butknowyourrights.Donotgetcaughtupintheirgames.Dontengage
theminanydiscussion,exceptonthequestionsabove.
4.Tellthemyouaregoingtocontactyourattorneyandwhenyougetthemonthephone,youwillallowthemtospeaktoyour
attorney.Closethedoor.PhoneyourattorneysotheattorneycanspeaktotheCPSsocialworkerandhelpthemtoleave.
Yourattorneywillknowthelawandremindthesocialworkerofyourrights.Itisalwaysagoodideatohaveanadvocateon
yourside.
WhatdoIdoifIdonthaveanattorney?
IfyouareaChristianandHomeschoolingyoumightliketoconsiderjoiningHeritageDefense.[1]Ifyouarehomeschooling
youmightliketojoinHomeSchoolLegalDefenseAssociationwhowilldefendyouagainstallegationsbysocialservicesas
theypertaintohomeschooling.Bothorganizationsrequireamonthlyoryearlyfeebutareavailablefortelephonehelp
immediatelyinanyemergencysituationyoumightface.
Iprayyouwillneverneedtousethisinformation.Unfortunately,inthepresenttimeofextensivegovernmentinvolvementin
thelivesofparents,manyparentshavefoundthemselvesincomplexsituationswithCPS.Itisbettertobeforewarnedand
forearmed.Yournumberonedesireistoprotectyourchildrenfromharm.ToooftenCPShasbroughtmoreharmthanhelp.

Pleaseshareyourtipsforkeepingyourfamilysafefromunwarrantedintrusioninthecommentsbelow.
BeckyHastings
FacingaworldquitedifferentfromtheoneinwhichIgrewup,Iseektoresearchandunderstandthe
veryrealdangersthreateningthehealthandfreedomoftodaysparents,providinginformationto
navigatetowardsjoyfulfamilyliving!

[1]InterviewwithBradleyPierceofHeritageDefenseonLawandLibertyRadio.Preservingour
Freedoms,DefendingOurHeritage.
Thisentrywaspostedinchildren,Faith,family,Health,Randombutimportant,support,ValuesbyJ'booster.Bookmark
thepermalink[http://journeyboost.com/2015/05/21/whattodoifcpsshowsupatyourdoor/].
72THOUGHTSONWHATTODOIFCPSSHOWSUPATYOURDOOR

Ellen
onMay21,2015at10:07pmsaid:

Thankyousomuch!ImintendingIneverneedsuchinformationbutasyouvesaidintodaysworldoneneverknows.
IveheardterriblestoriesofCPSmedicalkidnappingsthepastseveralmonths.Haveyouheardofthisgroup:
http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={4771B53ED3454753BEF468C1CA71CE13}
Veryvitalissueanditabsolutelytiesintotheissueyourarticleespouseson.Iencourageeveryonewhoreadsthisto
lookintothisissue.OurchildrenwereborntousandnottotheUnitedStatesgovernment!

AlexandraCorchuelo
onJuly3,2015at10:55amsaid:

Amen!Yousaiditsister!

tamra
onJuly7,2015at8:28amsaid:

Iwishwewouldhaveknownthisafewmonthsagowhentheyarrivedonourdoorstepandendeduptaking
ourgranddaughterwhenshewasnotinanyharm.

jacqueline
onJuly7,2015at9:23pmsaid:

IloveBeckyHastings!!Sheisrighton!!CPShasoftendonemoreharmthangood.Beenthere.

SLKing
onMay21,2015at11:07pmsaid:

AbsolutelyGREATinfo!

SallyHicks
onJuly2,2015at3:18amsaid:

Iprintedthisofftohave~justincase..WealreadysupportHeritageFoundationandHomeSchool

Defense..needtoposttheirphone#sotheyareHANDY..justincase..Thanksforthisinformation!Onenever
knows,thesedays!

Cln
onMay22,2015at1:50amsaid:

Becky,anothergreatpost.Iamforwardingthis!!

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Cassandra
onJuly2,2015at10:35pmsaid:

Iwishthatmyboyfriendsdaughterknewthis.

JanMoore
onJuly3,2015at12:40pmsaid:

IworkedasaCPSworkerforover15years.Iagreewithsomeoftheadvicegivenhere,butsomeIdonot.Definitely
donotanswerquestionsthathavenotbeenaskedunlessithelpsyourcase.Bepolite.Staycalm.Iknowthatin
Arkansas,Oklahoma,andTexasCPSworkersdonotneedawarrant.Ifapoliceofficerhasreasontobelievethata
childhasbeenharmed,theymaynotneedawarranteither.Ifyourefusetolettheworkerseeyourchild,theywill

assumeyouhavesomethingtohide.Iftheallegationsinvolvemarksorbruisesonthechild,lettheworkerseethat
therearenone,orifthereare,beabletoexplainthem.Thecasemaybedroppedatthattime.Dontmakeitany
biggerofadealthanithastobe.Themoreeffortthecaseworkerputsintoitthemorediligentthatpersonmaybein
lookingforproofofabuseorneglect.

J'booster
onJuly3,2015at5:22pmsaid:

HeyJan
Thankyouforyourinput.Itisimportanttostaycalmandrationalandyourexperienceistrulyhelpful.
Sometimesthethreatoreventhethoughtofsomeoneshowinguptoquestionourparentingcanmakeusthe
mostirrationalmammalsontheplanet!Hopefullythinkingthroughthesethingsinadvancewillhelpparents
makecalmwiserespectfulresponses!Yourexperienceandinsightisappreciated.
Becky

Kristi
onJuly7,2015at7:16pmsaid:

IworkedforCPSinSDforalmost6years,anditwasadifficultjob,ifwedidntcomewithlaw
enforcement,wewerenotgoingtoremovekids,andsometimeifwedidbringlawenforcementdueto
pasthistorywedidntremovechildren.Ithinktherearealargeamountofreferralsthatcomeinthatare
screenedoutevenwithreportsofobviousdangertochildren.Iknowitwasadifficultjobformetodo,
aftermyexperienceinanotherstate,whenIwasanewmom!Ihadachildthatwasveryhyper,and
notverycoordinated,thestateworkertheremadejokesabouttheallegations,andwhensheleft,she
hadstatedthatmydaughterwasabused,therecordshavesincebeendestroyed,buttheexperience
stillstayswithme!Itwasactuallyreportedbyneighborsthatdidntlikeus,andtheywereabusiveto
theirownchildrenanditwasknownbyotherstoo.Wedidwhatweneededtodotogetitoffofour
recordbutitstillangersmealot!!!

LuzKnight
onJuly7,2015at1:15amsaid:

Apoliceofficerdoesnotneedawarranttoenteryourhouseiftheybelieveanoccupantisinimminentdanger.
IassumeCPSmightoperateunderthesameframework.Howeveranyevidencecollectedoractiontaken
withoutawarrantunderthepremiseofimminentdangermusttosupportedbyfactsthatthechildisin
imminentdanger.TheburdenofproofwouldbewithCPStoproveimminentdangerexisted.Itisbesttobe
polite,butsayaslittleaspossible.Justasifyouweredealingwiththepolice,withtheexceptionthatpolice
willbebettertrainedandmoreknowledgeableofthelawthanyouraverageCPSworker.

LindseyV
onJuly7,2015at9:16amsaid:

HiJan,
IhaveafollowupquestiontoyourcommentyoustatethatifCPSaskstoseeyourchildandyouhave
nothingtohide,thenallowingthemtoseethatchildisfinewillworkoutinyourbestinterest.Doesthat
includeneedingtoallowthemintothehome?OrcanIjustcallmychildtothedoor(giventhattheyareold
enoughtocomethemselves)orclosethedoor,getmychild,andcomebacksothattheycanseethatthey
areOK?Iaskbecausemyhusbandhadanaccidentwithhisdaughterwhereshehadgottenhitinthemouth
andbitherlip(shewasrunningathim,hewasturningitwasatrueaccident)andhermotherusedittoget
firstthepoliceinvolved,andthenwhentheirinvestigationwasclosedasunfounded,shethencontacted
CPSandwehadtogothroughanentireinvestigationwiththem.Itwasalldropped,butitwasstressfuland
scary,andIworryaboutitbeinganissueagain,wheneverhermotherfeelsshehasanotheropportunity.
Woulditbelookedatastryingtohidesomethingbynotlettingthemintomyhome?

Bart
onJuly7,2015at10:52amsaid:

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Iftheydonthaveawarrant,theycanNOTenteryourhome.Youarespreadingfalse
information.Theywilluseanytrickylanguagetheycantogetyoutoconsent,butiftheyforcethemselvesinto
yourhome,youhaveeveryrighttodefendyourhomeagainstaninvader.Yourcommentofassumingyou
havesomethingtohideisasinine.Ithasroutinelybeenruledincourtsonallkindsofcasesthatrefusalof
consenttosearchcanNOTbeusedagainstyouorasjustificationtoconductasearchorgroundsfora
warrant.

Nicole
onJuly7,2015at11:02amsaid:

WehadCPSinvestigateourfamilyafterour3montholdbabydiedinhersleep.Itwasaterribletimebecause
ontopofmissingmybabyterribly,IwasworriedthatCPSwouldntbelieveourstoryandmighttakeourother
4childrenaway.Nevertheless,Iunderstandwhytheyhadtoinvestigateus,sinceachildhaddiedinour
home.Aneighborstayedwithour4childrenwhilewewereatthehospitalwithourbaby.Shesaidwhilewe
weregoneourchildrenwereseparatelyinterviewedandaskedquestionslike,Whatdoyourparentsdowhen
theygetmad?,Dotheyeverhityou?,andDotheyyellatyou?.Well,Ihadbarelyeverhitthem,butIhad
swattedthemonthebuttbefore.Also,hadIeveryelled?Well,yes.Imhuman.Ihavelostmypatience.Iwas
terrified!AfterthisaCPSworkerwasassignedtokeepaneyeonus.Shecamebyunannounced2times.
Eventhoughourhousewasntperfect,IallowedhertocomeinbecauseIwantedtoprovetoherthatIhad
nothingtohide.WetalkedonourcouchbothtimesandIhadtoanswerquestionsabouthowIwasdeeling
withthelossofourbaby.Shealsoaskedifshecouldspeakwithourchildren.Icooperatedwitheverything,
eventhoughIwasntuptoit.Intheend,shegottoknowusandlikeus.Icouldtellthatshefeltbadforme
andwhatourfamilywasgoingthrough.Shesawthatourchildrenwereinnodangerandassuredmethat
everythingwouldbeallright.IfearthatifIwouldhavebeenuncooperativethatshemighthavethoughtthat
wehadsomethingtohide,andthentheoutcomemighthavebeendifferent.

J'booster
onJuly7,2015at7:21pmsaid:

Nicole
Thankyouforsharingyourexperience.Yourpainatthattimemusthavebeenenormous,andthe
stressofprovingyourparentingontopofyourgrieving.Iamgladyouhadagoodoutcome.Ithinkthe
thingtorememberisthateverypersonworkingforthesystemisanindividualhumanbeing.You
followedyourheartandyourintuitionanditendedwell.Imthankfulthatyourfamilywasrespected.I
wisheveryCPSworkerhadthesamelevelofcompassionandintegrity.Iprayyourfamilywillbe
blessedasyoucontinuetoheal.

cherid
onJuly7,2015at4:50pmsaid:

The4thamendmenttotheUSConstitutionprotectsusagainstunreasonablesearchandseizurewithouta
warrant.HowwouldArkansas,Texas,andOklahomabeexemptfromtheConstitution?

Veronica
onJuly7,2015at7:16pmsaid:

Thisissomethingthatanystatecandoingiventherightcircumstances.Iftheofficerisgivenreason
tobelievethatanyperson,regardlessofage,isinimmediatedangertheycanforciblyenteraprivate
residence.Ex:policeofficerhearsgunshotsfrominside,hearssomeonescreamingindistress,sees
anythingillegalinplainview.

camilliarich
onJuly3,2015at5:23pmsaid:

IsthereanyrepresentationfornonhomeschooledChristians?

J'booster
onJuly3,2015at5:39pmsaid:

HiCamillia
Greatquestion.Ihaventheardofanyspecificlegalgroupsfornonhomeschooledchildren.Upuntilthispoint
homeschoolingfamilieshavebeenonethelargestatrisktargetsforremoval,thustheformationoftheselegal
bodiestorepresentthem.
Maybesomeoneherecanhelp.IfIlearnofsomething,Illpostit.Itiscertainlyagreatidea.
Becky

Michele
onJuly7,2015at1:56amsaid:

LegalAid

Brian
onJuly7,2015at4:07pmsaid:

InIllinois,theFamilyDefenseCenterrepresentsparentsinvestigatedbyDCFS,andisnototherwiselimited
toanyparticularinterestgroup.

Rathena
onJuly4,2015at11:02amsaid:

IamseeingthisonathreadfromaFacebookgroupforgrandparentsraisinggrandchildren.Manyifusalreadyhave
CPSakaDHSinourlivesandhomesconstantly.Whatdoyoudo?????Theyarelikeworkingwiththedevil!!!Ilivein
constantfearthatthechildrenwillbetakenfrommeand(sold)giventoanotherfamilytoadopt.Theymanipulate,lie,
&twisteverythingaroundtothenegative.Theywillnotleavemygrandsonaloneandhavecausedhimirreversible
harm.Wheredotheyfindtheseemployeesthatwilldothiskindofworkforlittlepay???

J'booster
onJuly4,2015at12:12pmsaid:

Rathena
Iamsosorryforallyouhavegonethrough.Iprayyouwillfindhopeandhelpinnavigatingthroughthis
situation.Icertainlydontclaimtohavealltheanswers,butIbelieveJesusChristcanenterourlivesand
impartwisdom,understandingandprotection.Iprayyourgrandsonswillfindhealingandstrengththrough
Jesussothathecanrisetobealeaderinhisgeneration.Trulyweliveinthemidstofacrookedandperverse
generation,asPaulsaidofthetimehelived,butwearecalledtoshinelikelightsandspreadthefragrant
aromaofJesustoallthosewhoarelost.Youhavebeengivenadifficulttask.Iprayyouwillfindstrengthand
endurance.Becky

sarah
onJuly4,2015at11:20amsaid:

Iwishiwouldhavereadthisb4whathadhappenedtomeandmyfianceourlifesaretornapart

T.M.R
onJuly4,2015at9:37pmsaid:

Wishihadknownthissooner

Michelle
onJuly5,2015at7:00pmsaid:

Morepeopleneedinfolikethis.IamdealingwithCPSrightnowandwhileIwasspeakingwiththemtheytriedtotell
memysonhadabruise,onebruisemindyou.Thekidis6yrsoldthefactthathehadonebruiseisprettyamazing
forayoungkid.Thethingis,therewasnobruiseatallandtheytriedtellingmeitwasyellowandpurple.Nope,no
bruise.Theywillmakestuffupandbullyandbadgeryoutogetwhattheywant.Theyhavezerointerestinthesafety
ofyourchildrenandonlywantthepowerrushtheygetfromcontrollingyouandmessingwithyourlife.Ihadtoquit
myjobbecauseofthis.Theyruinlives.

Mattie

onJuly6,2015at11:23pmsaid:

Theydoruinlives.

HeidiSprague
onJuly6,2015at1:35amsaid:

Thankyouforthisinformation,IveseenthewayCPStearsfamiliesapart.Mycousinhad3kidsadoptedbecause
shes,asthesay,slowmentally.Therewasnodrugsordrinking,noabuse,justpoor,livinginadrycabin,withtheir
dogs,catsandtheirson.
Over2years,neveronecounselingsessiontogetherwiththeirson!Visitationwasinasmallcrampedroom,with
nothingtoentertainachildfor1hour.CPSrescheduledvisitssothentheymissedseeingtheirsonthatweek.Ifthey
wouldhavemissedameeting,theywouldhavebeenaccusedasbeingneglectful??
Theybothdideverythingaskedofthem,movedtoaplacewithwater,gotridofsomeoftheiranimals,wentto
classes,hadunannouncedvisitstomakesuretheirhousewascleanenoughreally??Afterallthat,2yearslater
Thestoriesarehorrific!!
Whathappenedtoworkingtobringfamiliesbacktogether?

N.H.
onJuly6,2015at7:44pmsaid:

Verygoodadvisebutifyouwillincludethefactthatnotevenopeningthedoortospeaktothemandifyouhappen
to,handthemyourattorneyscardandtellthemtocallhimtosetupaninterviewinhisofficeiftheyarehavingtodo
aninterviewwithyou.Youdonothavetoletthemtalktothekidsunlesstheyhavetheirattorney.PutNo
trespassingsignsoutside,withthestatutessothereisnoquestioniftheywontleaveoriftheystandoutside

knocking,eveniftheyhavethepolice,theycannotcomeinwithoutawarrant.Theycannotgetawarrantonan
anonymouscallbecauseitneedsprobablecause.Iftheycallanddonthaveyouraddress,donotgototheirofficefor
interview.Changeyournumberandonlygiveoutyournewnumbertoveryfewfamilyandyouwillknowiftheyget
yournumberagain,whohasmadeafalseallegation.Gotofightcps.com,shegivesgreatadviceonwhattodo,but
basically,alltheaboveisgood,butneveransweranyquestions,dontgivethemanyinformation.Ifyouaskwhatthe
allegationsareandtheysaythattheycanttellyou,theymustcomeintotalkaboutit.youknowtheyarewantingto
comeinandfindsomethingandmostofthetimeitisinsane.Iftheydotellyouitissupposedlyabuse,takeyour
childtotheDr.tellingthemyouwillcallforthemtointerviewyouasrightnowyouarebusy.Takethechildandhave
aphysicaldoneshowingonpaperthatyourchildisfine,nobruisesorinjuriesassuchtheallegationscanbeproven
false.Iftheyshowupagain,donotanswerthedoor.Theyloseimmunityiftheylietoajudgeandsaysomethingto
getawarrantasitwasdecidedthatinfederalcourtthattheycannotgetoneforanonymouscalls.Also,putasign
andacameraoutfront,evenifitisntworking,putasignthatyouarerecordingSmile,youarebeingrecorded.It
wasstatedinfederalcourtthateveniftheanonymouscallwasaboutabuse,theystillneedprobablecausesoifyou
letthemin,orarecoersed,youhavegivenupyour4thamendmentrightandtheyloseimmunity,thecopsshould
knowthistoo.Theycanbothbesuedincourtfortheyloseimmunityiftheybreakyour4thamendmentrightsandor
lietoajudge.The4thamendmentgoesforallstates,andparentscannotjustletthesepeoplein,thinkingthatof
courseyouhavenothingtohide,andyouknowyouaregoodparentsbutthesepeoplearenotheretoprovethe
allegationswrong,andwilltakethekidsawayforjustaboutanyreasonthisagencyhasbecomearacket,kidsfor
profitandsellingoutthekidstogettheTitleIVsubsidies.Thereisalsoaclassactionlawsuitgoingonrightnow
tooalongwithinsomestates,otheronesbeingfiled.
http://www.nationallibertyalliance.org/search/node/cps%20class%20action%20lawsuitBefirmandbenice,but
suggestyoujustdonotopenthedoorortellthemanything.Iftheyseenotrespassingsignsandstillwontleave,you
cancallthepoliceandpresscharges,alsorecordeverythingespeciallyifyouarealreadyinvolvedinacaseandyou
mustjournalorvideotapeeverything,haveasignonyourdoorsotheyknowthisisgoingonandiftheyhaveany
objectionsthentheymaynoteverenteryourhomebecausetheyknowtheyaredoingsomethingillegalanddont
wantittoberecorded.Theyonlyhavequalifiedimmunity.Theycanbesuedsokeepinmindthatiftheylie,do
anythingwithoutconsenttheycanandwilllosetheirimmunityinalawsuit.Theyareharmingkids,nothelpingthem
andtheonesneededtakingawayrarelydo.Theyareonlysupposetoremoveinrarecasesofimminentdanger,but
havebeenseeingalarmingnumbersofremovalsforthingslikedishesinsink,ants,crayonsonthefloor,clutterin
homeridiculousandinnowaydoesitputthechildindanger.RECORD,Icannotstressenoughforyoutorecord
everyinteractionyouhavewiththem.Evenifthelawstatesyoucannotrecordthemwithoutyourpermission,you
havearighttorecordinyourhome,andiftheyseethesign,theyaregivingpermissionbyenteringandtalkingtoyou.
Theyarenotyourfriendsandarenotinthebestinterestofthechild,nomatterhownicetheyare,andtheybringthe

policefortheirbenefit.Itisnottomakeyoucomply,itisfortheirprotection.Iftheofficerissmart,hewill
acknowledgetothecaseworkerthatyourrightstonotevenopenthedoorarelaw,andhecannotforceyoutotalkto
them.parentsknowyourrights.Ifyoucan,alwaysgetlegaladviceandhavesomeonewhocanspeaktothemif
theytrytoforcetheirwayintothehome.LiketheydidinCalifornia,parentsdohaverightsandyouaregonnahaveto
fightforthemandstanduptothem.Thisishowalotofparentshavelosttheirkids,theytrustedthesecase
workerstheyarewolvestheywillhuff,andpuffbutcannotcomeinwithoutconsent.Hopethishelps,andgood
luck!

Sandy
onJuly6,2015at7:55pmsaid:

Ivehadthemcalledonmebeforebymyexhusband.Falselyaccusedofusingdrugsandabusingmychild.Afterone
failedattempttoreachmeathome,theywenttomysonsdaycarecenterandspokewithhimwithoutmyknowledge
orconsent!Ihadnoideauntilafewdayslaterateachertoldmebecausemysonhadbeguntodistancehimselffrom
theclass.Icalledandmadethemcometomyhousethatdayandexplainthemselves.Thecasewasdroppedwithin
aweek.

ccole
onJuly7,2015at8:37pmsaid:

cpswenttoheadstartconcerningmygranddaughteronacomplaintfromherfather.shehadgottenoutofthe
highchairshewasstrappedinatmydaycare(knewhowtounbucklethestrapandremovethetrayasdidall
thekidsinmydaycare).socpsaskedmygranddaughterwhathappenedtoherforehead.shefakecriedand
saidmydaddyhitme.soweexplainedthatno,hehadnothither,butthetableturned!

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Kristina
onJuly7,2015at12:54amsaid:

IwishIwouldhavereadthisayearago.MyhusbandandIhadour3kids,allunderageof4,putinfostercareNov7.
Theydotwistandmanipulateeverything.Thesehavebeenthemostpainful8monthsofmylife!CPSkeepspushing
metodivorcemyhusbandandnowtellmeIhaveslimchanceofgettingthemandthereneverwereallegationsof
abuseortalkofabuse,theworstthingtheyhaveonusisthatourmarriageisnotperfect,whosis?Mypoorbabies
cryeverytimeourvisitsareoverandmy4yearoldsontellsmehehatesmissingme.Myhearthasbeensobroken
sincehesaidthatlastmonth.IcrydailythinkingofmymunchkinshavingtobeawayfromtheirMomandnot
understandwhatsgoingon.

Riella
onJuly7,2015at1:27amsaid:

ThisisallGreatinformationtohave!Thankyouforposting!Myquestionis,whatdoyoudoifCPSgoestothe
school?Itsbeenyearssincetheyvemessedwithus,theyKnowIdontplayintotheirnonsense,buttheresalotof
uneducatedparentsthatneedaheadsup.TheykeptharassingmykidsatschoolevenAfterthejudgekickedthem
offthecaseandoutofthecourtroom.IrecordedEveryphonecall&hadtherecordervisiblewhentheyweretalking.
NowthetablewasturnedandshewasirratelolLive&learn!Backtotheschoolquestiontho?

Compliant
onJuly7,2015at1:43amsaid:

Inresponseto,WhattodoifCPSshowsupatyourdoor,withavaccinationspinoff.
Iamdirectlyinvolvedwithdependencylawinoneofthe50states.ThegovernmentagencyIworkforprovideslegal
counseltoDHSthroughoutourstate.Unfortunately,IcannotdisclosemorethanitisanareaoflawthatIactively
workinandunderstand.Withthatsaid,thisismyhumbleopinionandcomesfromsomeonewhoisnotafanofDHS,
andmyfamilyandIareantivaccine.
IampostingthisbecauseIthinkalotofmisinformationspreads,butIalsothinkthereisvalueinthinkingofand
addressingtheseissuesaddressedabove.
*InordertokeepthisshortandonpointIamgoingtosummarizelawandomitthelevelsofDHSinvolvement,ranging
from:initialcall,shelterhearing,jurisdiction,andterminationofparentalrights.
About95%ofcasesDHSbecomesinvolvedinareegregious.WhenIsayegregiousthinkofdrugaddictedparents
passedoutleavingtheirchildrenunattended.IfDHSreceivesacallthey,DHS,mustdecidewhetherthecallwarrants
a24hourresponseoruptoa10dayresponse.Theimmediacyofharmdictatestheresponsetime.So,simply
becausesomeonerefusestovaccinatetheirchildshouldneverbethesolereasonthatDHSiseverinvolved,except
mandatoryrespondingtoanallegationofabuseorneglect.Asothershavestatedfalsecallsoccur,butifareporter
weretocallinbecauseachildisnotvaccinatedthatwouldlikelywarranta10dayresponseornoresponseatall
(centralDHSmaycloseitwithoutanyinvolvement).Unlessunvaccinatedisonlyasmallpartofalargerneglectand
abusecaseDHSwouldnotremovethechild.They,DHS,doesnothavetheresourcesnordotheywanttoseparate
families,especiallygoodfamilies.Aparentneednotbeagoodparent,butmustbeminimallyadequate.Minimally
adequateisaVERYlowbartomeetandsimplynotvaccinating,whennotcompoundedbyotherissues,wouldnot
causeusasparentstofallbellowthatthreshold.So,ifsomeoneweretocallDHSbecausemychildrenarenot
vaccinatedthatreportwouldeitherbeclosedbeforeDHScametomyresidence,ortheywouldshowup,see
everythingisok,andclosethereportasunfounded.
Thereareexceptions,butthoseexceptionsarefew.Ihaveheardofafewspecificallyfromonecountyinourstate,
buteventhosehaveneglectorabuseamountingtowaymorethannotvaccinating.So,whileIthinkwedoliveina
societyofhypersensitivity,simplynotvaccinatingcausesmezeroworryaboutDHSinvolvement.
Becausethestandardrequiredtoremoveachildrequiresproofofimmediatethreatofharm,notvaccinatingdoesnot

satisfythecriteriaandwouldnotcauseremoval.Ifremoved,thechild,absentmoreproofofneglect,wouldbe
returnedwithin24hoursattheshelterhearing(inourstateashelterhearingmustoccurwithin24hoursofachild
beingremoved).
Asfaraspoliceinvolvement:somecountiesoperatewithpoliceforeachinvestigation.ThatmeanstheDHS
employeecomingtoinvestigatewillhaveapoliceofficertheretoassistifneeded,butthepoliceofficerdoesnot
necessarillyhaveawarrantorreasonablesuspiciontoenter.OthertimesDHScomeswithoutpolice.TheDHS
employeeisaddressingthereportthatcameinandlookingtoseeifimminentorimmediateharmispresent.Absent
thattheyhavenogroundstoremovethechild.WhileIdonotprovidelegaladvice,onlyopinion,Iwouldnotbehostile
towardsDHSorthepolice.Bothhaveahardjobandneitheragencywantstotakecustodyunlesstheyhaveto.So,
unlessIhadcrackpipesinreachofmychildren,hadaneedlestickingoutofmyarm,orwaslivinginahoarder
house,Iwouldntreallyworryabouttheminvestigating.IfanythingIbelieveallowingthemtoinvestigateshowsyour
willingness,andofhavingnothingtohide.Ithinkweoftenbecomeoverlyvigilantinprotectingourrights,whichwe
arefreetodo,butsometimesexercisingthoserightssnowballsthesituation.Personally,Iwouldntcallalawyer
becauseifthey,DHS,camebecauseIchosenottovaccinatemykidsthereisnothingalawyercanreallytellthem
thatIcant.And,thatismoretimeforthingstoescalateandwilllikelyresultinthemhavingtoreturnanotherday
becausetheywerenotabletoproperlyaddressthesituationtoensurewhetheritshouldbeafoundedorunfounded
allegation.
MypersonalsuspicionsandanimosityofDHS,oranyothergovernmentagencyforthatmatter,hasnotbeen
validatedbymypositionworkingintherealmofdependencylaw.Ifanything,Ihavefoundthatmoreoftenthatnot
peoplewhoshouldnothaveaccesstotheirchildrenremainparents,DHSgoesaboveandbeyondofferingservicesto
tryandrehabilitatefamilies,andvaccinesarenotanissue.Thegrayareaofdependencylaw,thatbeingthecourts
attitudeandinabilitytoestablishmorebrightlinesofwhatsatisfiesneglect,aremoreproblematicthanDHS.But,that
couldchangetomorrowifoneofthose1inamillioncasescomesacrossmydesk.
Justmyhumbleopinion.And,sorryforturningthisintoanantivaccineissue,butthatiswhereIseealotofpeople
becomingmoreuneasy,butitisnotacauseofconcernthatIhavewitnessed,yet.

Beck
onJuly7,2015at1:53amsaid:

Thisisatoughone,havinghadtodealwithCFS/DFSthroughmyjob,oncewhenIwasinhighschool(reportedby
theparentofaformerfriend),andmorerecently,issueswithmyGoddaughter.Iunderstandthefrustrationmany
peopledealwithwhenthatknockcomes.However,thesemenandwomenarenotevil.AsJanMoorestated,some
statesdonotrequiretheneedforawarrant,andIhavetoagreethatsomeoftheadvicemightcausemoreofa
problem.Thesocialworkerisinacatch22situation.Iftheyrespond,itbecomesawitchhuntandtheyareoutto
harmfamilies,iftheydonothing,theyarecalledeverynameinthebook,includingchildmurderer,abuser,etcand
manyhavetheirlivesthreatenedbythefamilytheyaresupposedtoinvestigate.Theyaregoingoninformation
providedtothem,nomatterhowrightorwrong.Dosomeactoverzealous?ABSOLUTELY!Buttheparents
sometimesdotoo.Iveworkedwithspecialneedschildrenfor20years,andfrequentlydealwithDFS,withgood
causeinmanyofthecases.Itsunfortunatethatgoodfamiliesgetdraggeddownbythis,butwhatconcernsmeis
howthefamiliesaredealingwiththestressasfarasthechildrenareconcerned.Youresupposedtobethesafetynet
foryourkids/grandkids,butmanyletthechildrenwitnessthestress,whichmightleadthechild/childrentothink
THEYcausedthetrouble.Somethingtothinkabout,howyouchoosetodealwithitdetermineshowachildwill.Inthe
caseofmyGoddaughter,hermotherdidntrealizethatheroutofcontrolbehaviorwashurtingherdaughter.Ittook
hergoingthroughthismessandhavingherdaughtertemporarilyremovedfromthehousetosnapheroutofthefog
shewasin.Seeinga6yearoldstresseatingatmidnight,barelysleeping,cryinginhersleepwhenshecouldsleep,
thatsnotgood.Itisntjustphysicalissuesthatgetreported,itsemotionalaswell,especiallyifachildisdisplaying
behaviorthatisntwhatisnormallyseen.Itssodifficultforbothsides,andIamnotdefendinganyoneside,butits
justnotsocutanddryasdontdothisorthat.Myadvicetofamiliesisthis:
1)Knowthelawsinyourstateandcounty.Eachisdifferent:exampleisNevadahasonesetoflawsbutClarkcounty
haslawsthatdifferenoughthatlivingthere,bothsetswereneeded.
2)Staytunedintoyourchildsactionsandbehavior.Regardlessofwhethertheyarehomeschooledornot,if
somethingiswrong,signswillshowupinbehavior,words,drawings,etc.Theremaybeanissuewithateacher,a
friend,afamilymember.Yesevenchildrencanhavetheseissues.
3)Dontbeafraidtoaskateacher,preacher,relative,whoevertowatchoutforconcerningbehavior.
4)Dontbeafraidtoaskforcounsellingservicesifneedbe.Overhalfofthecasesthroughworkwerebecausenoone
askedforhelpwhentheygotoverwhelmedandIfrequentlysawkidsnotbeingbathedindirtyclothesanditturnedout
thattherewasaterminalillnessinthefamilyandtheparentwastoostressedandthoughtsomeoneelsewasdoingit.
Manysocialworkerswanttohelp.Theyjustgoaboutitthewrongway.AndlikemyGoddaughtersmom,shewasnt

willingtoaskforhelpuntiltheworsthadhappened.
Therealityisthis:yescurrentsocietyishypersensitivetothetopicofabuse,withcaseslikeCaseyAnthony,itsnot
awonderastowhy.Justsomethingstothinkaboutfromtheperspectiveofaparent,teacher.OhandFYI:its
FederalLawthatrequiresteachersandmedicalprofessionalstoreportsuspectedabuse/neglect,itsnotapersonal
choice.Itsapartofourjobs.

chris
onJuly7,2015at5:20amsaid:

Pleasealsoknowyoucangetthemoffyourpropertyifyourchildrenare25percentnativeAmericanaswell.Declare
itimmediatelyupontheirarrival.unlessthereisanemergencyobvioustheycannotdoanythingbutreferittotribal
courts

Vonda
onJuly7,2015at5:21amsaid:

WehomeeducatedfromKto12andduringthoseyearsweremembersofHSLDAforjustthereasonsstatedabove.I
wantedanattorneyavailableifneeded.WeneverdidhavecausetocallbutIwasgladtosupportHSLDAgreat
groupoffolks!

Dan
onJuly7,2015at8:36amsaid:

Ibyallmeansthinkpeopleshouldbeeducatedabouttheirrights.ButtosaythatCPSisthebadguyisridiculous.
CPSistheretoprotectchildren.Ofcoursetherearepeoplewhogetinvolvedthatdontdeservetobeputontrial.That
isnotthefaultoftheCPSworker.Itistheirjobtoinvestigateanddeterminethevalidityofallclaims.Ifyouarent
doinganythingwrongyouhavenothingtoworryabout.AllofthepeopleIknowinthisfieldwouldmuchratherkeepa
familytogetherandgetthemthehelptheyneedbeforeeverremovingachild.Ifyouhavehadachildremoveditisnot
becauseyouwereinnocent.IfyouhavecontinuedissueswithCPSitisnotbecauseyouaredoingeverythingright.
Stopblamingthesystemandtakeresponsibilityforyourownbehaviorandactions.

Terri
onJuly7,2015at9:29pmsaid:

Ifonlyitweretruethatifyouarentdoinganythingwrongyouhavenothingtoworryabout.Unfortunatelyitis
farfromtrue.TherearemanygoodCPSworkers.Andtherearesomereallybadoneswhohaveterrorizedand
separatedfamiliesfornogoodreasonforweeks,months,oryears.Thatisthereality.Ithappens.

CarisaMarion
onJuly7,2015at8:46amsaid:

LegalShieldhas24/7emergencyaccesstoanattorneyIfCPStriestoremoveyourchildren.Itisinfactavery
specificservicetheyprovideasitrequiresfastaccesstoanattorney.ThisistheleastexpensiveprotectionandhelpI
knowofthatnofamilyshouldbewithout.Lessthan$20amonthforagreatLegalProtectionplan.Toseedetailsgo
tohttp://www.carisamarion.legalshieldassociate.com

Jess

onJuly7,2015at9:40amsaid:

Iagreewithmostofthis,buttheresonethingIwantedtopointout.WhenmyhusbandsexwifecalledCPSonus,
theworkerwenttomysonsschoolandspokewithhimBEFOREsheevercametoourhouseandtalkedtome.So
sayingIdontwantmykidstraumatizedprobablywontworkinMichigan,becausetheyveprobablyalreadytalkedto
yourkidsworkoutevermeetingyoufirst.However,theworkerthatwehadwasactuallyprettyawesome.Shewas
veryhonestabouteverything,asIwaswithher.Sheknewtheallegationswerepettyandtheywerethrownoutright
away.Sowedidnthaveanyproblems.

ccole
onJuly7,2015at8:50pmsaid:

Iamsureallcpsworkersarenotbad.somearejustnaive.myfriendssonwhowantedtobegangmember
wenttoschoolandjumpedayoungerchild.hebeathimupandwasholdinghimdownchokinghim.ittook3
teacherstogethimoff.whenhisfatherfoundouthedidwhoophimupwithabelt.cpscameattherequestof
hismotherwhohadsenthimtolivewithdadbecauseofhisganginvolvementandsellingdrugsat13.sodad
saystakehimthereisnothingIcandowithhim.cpssaidnowewillnotbetakinghimwejustwantto
suggestsomeotherpunishment.likehavehimdigaholeintheyardandfillitup.?wentbackhometomama.
beeninprisontwotimesnow.doing10yearsthistime.

EJHorn
onJuly7,2015at9:52amsaid:

Thanksforthearticleandcomments.ForthereminderofHSLDA!!IndeedourenemywalksaboutASaroaringlion
ourSAVIORistheLIONofthetribeofJudah!!

Herb
onJuly7,2015at11:01amsaid:

>>Printthisarticleoutonpaper.
>>Circlethepartsyoullneedtorefertowhiletheyreatthedoor.
(Circlethembecauseyoullbecaughtoffguardandyoullprobablybetremblingandtheadrenalinewillbeflowing.)
>>Putyourattorneysphonenumberonitandlabelthatphonenumber.
>>Putthisbyyourfrontdoor(buthiddenawaysoguestsdontseeitbutyoucanaccessitinstantly)

TiffanyH
onJuly7,2015at11:32amsaid:

Thankyousomuchforwritingthis.Andsharingit.Wehadcpscalledbyhisexwhenweweretryingformore
visitationwhatanightmare.WithtwokiddoswithspecialhealthneedsIveworriedaboutourdoctorcallingifImnot
intotalagreementwiththem.Iwillbeprintimgthisoutsoiftheneediseverpresentagainiwillbecalmandin
control.

Sheree
onJuly7,2015at12:04pmsaid:

Thethingthatalwaysgetsmeisthefactcpsknowswhatsbestformychildren?Ohreally?Theyknowsomuch?
Thentellmemychildrensbirthdays,favoritefood,favoriteTVshow,whatchurchweattend,whatistheirspecial

security(blanketorstuffedanimal),favoritecolor,thelistcouldgoonforever!!

carly
onJuly7,2015at1:26pmsaid:

IwishIhadpossessedthisinformation8yrsago,inmystateandcountycpsdoesandsayswhatevertheycanto
gainguardianshipofminorssimplybecauseitismakingthecommonwealthatonmoney.Theyclaimtheyarethere
tohelpthefamilyandworktoensuresafehealthyfamilyunits,malarkey!!!Thereunificationprocesstookadivorceof
a20yearmarriage,oneparentleavingthestate,andtheothermovingcountiesonlyto3yrslatertoberightbackat
squareone.Atsomepointarethechildren,14/15,notoldenoughtosaywhatisgoingonandwheretheywanttobe
andthattheyhavealreadybeenrobbedoftheirchildhoodswiththeirparentsbecauseofthemaliciousnessoftheir
paternalgrandmotherwhothoughtshecouldquitworking,collectacheck,andtherewouldbenolastingramifications
onhergrandchildren?WellGodhashandledher,howevermychildrenarestillsufferingandwillcontinueto.Iamnot
sonaiveandIknowtherearecertainlyrealfamiliesandchildrenthatneedtheseservices,butwhiletheyreknocking
onourdoors,weareburyingmothersandchildrenthatnooneevertookasecondglanceat.Thebestthingthatcan
happenisthatfamilycourtbecomesopenandthentheseprofessionalshavetofollowguidelinesandbeheld
accountablefortheiractionsaswell.

sue
onJuly7,2015at1:46pmsaid:

Acharterschool,calledonme.
Saidmyfriendwhomdroppedoffmysontoschoolwasdrunk,andsmelledlikealcohol.
AllIdid.Wasadvocatethatmyson,asaDownsyndromechild,receiveareadingcurriculumandbooksforhimto
continuetoread.
Scary.Thecpsworkermetmychildinschoolimmediately,hedidnotsmelllikealcohol.Nordidmyfriend,norhis

car.
Myfriendwasnotallowedaroundmysonforamonth.
Myfriendneverwillcomenearusafterthat.
Familycalledonceinadifferentstate,becauseItoldthemIdidnotlikemysonbeinghelddownonthefloorin
school.Educationisexplosiveattimeswhenaparentadvocates.
Iadvocatedfor8yrs.Ihomeschoolnowwithsupports.

Karen
onJuly7,2015at2:30pmsaid:

Idliketoaddtwomorecautions:whenaskingaboutawarrant,asktoseeitandbeveryparticularwhenaskingthem
ifitissignedbyaJUDGE.IveheardofasituationwhereCPSsaidtheydidhaveawarrantandflashedablankone
(notsigned)infrontofthefamilytogetin.
Also,justbecauseanofficeraccompaniesCPS,thatdoesNOTnecessarilymeantheyhavetheauthoritytoenterthe
home.SometimesCPSrequestsanofficerundertheguiseofpossiblyneedingprotectionfromYOU,thuslooking
moreofficial.
Iftheyactuallyhaveasignedwarrantandofficer,theywontworryaboutstandingoutsidetryingtogetyour
permissiontoenterbutwillpushtheirwayin.

Brooke
onJuly7,2015at3:07pmsaid:

IfindthishighlyoffensiveasaformerCPSworker.Thesituationsyouarereferringtoareextremelyrare.InSC,CPS
doesnothavethelegalauthoritytoplacechildreninfostercare.Onlylawenforcementorjudgescandothat.So
perhapsyourpostshouldbedirectedatthem.Whatyouhavedone,essentially,byprovidingthisinformationis
reducedthesafetyofchildrenwhoareatriskbygivingparentswaystogetoutofaninvestigation.Ifparentshave

nothingtohide,whyhide??

Nicole
onJuly7,2015at3:18pmsaid:

Beforewehomeschooled,theschoolHealthTechcalledCPSbecausemynonverbalsonhadabruise.Iexplained
thebruise,butshereportedtoCPSbecauseshedidnotlikeme(mysonhadadoctorsnoteforsomemedicationthat
neededtobedispensedatschoolandtheHealthTechtoldmethatotherchildrenhaverealhealthproblemsandthat
sheresentedhavingtotaketimeformyson).CPSshowedupwhileIwasoutofthehouse.IwassoangrybecauseI
realizedthiswasaschoolnurserevengecall.This,Ifoundout,isquitecommon!Imetapoliceofficerwhohadthe
sameexperiencewiththeschoolhealthpersonnelandhisspecialneedschild.IdidnotwantCPSinmyhomeandI
alsowantedtogetthemeetingoverwith.SoIaskedifIcouldbringmysontotheCPSoffice.Theyagreed.They
couldseerightawaythatmysonhadanadventurousnotsocooperativepersonality.Wewereshownintoasmall
roomwithtoysandarockingchair.HeimmediatelyclimbedalloverthechairasIwasansweringquestions.He
managedtogethisfootstuckinthechairandIwasntanywherenearhiminthesplitsecondittookforthatto
happen.ThecaseworkercouldclearlyseethatIwasagoodparentandwasdoingagoodjob.Sheclosedthecase.

Kristy
onJuly7,2015at3:42pmsaid:

Ateacheratmychildrensschoolreportedabusebecauseofabruisefrommykidsfightingeachotherandcpswent
totheschoolandinterviewedmykidswithoutmyknowledge.Isthislegal?Thecasewasclosedandcpsthoughtis
wasridiculousbuttheystillhadtogothroughalltheinterviewinglookingforanythingtouseagainstme.

Rosann
onJuly7,2015at4:31pmsaid:

BasicallyifIeverhaveanencounterwithCPS,theonlythingIwillsaytothemis:Doyouhaveawarranttoaskme
thesequestionsaboutmychildren?IftheysaynothenIwillpolitelytellthem,Iknowyouhaveajobtodo,but
unlessyouhaveawarrantstatingthatyoucanaskthesequestions,thenImightanswer,otherthanthatthis
conversationisover,andhaveaniceday.

Elizabeth
onJuly7,2015at5:00pmsaid:

IworkedforCPSinTexas.CPSdoesnotneedawarrant,howevertheydohavetoaskpermissiontoenteryour
home,otherwiseviolatingyour4thAmendmentrights.CPSdoesntsellchildrenandtheyonlyremoveifthereisclear
evidenceofabuseorneglect.Ihaveseenworkersmakeamountainoutofnothing,andIvealsoseenparentsaccuse
eachotherofsexualabusejustforspite.Ifthereisevenjustaslightchanceabuseorneglecthasoccurred,and
nothingisreported,anyfederallymandatedemployee,schoolteacher,pastor,etc.couldfaceprisontimefornot
reporting.Teachersanddoctorsareextremelyhypervigilantaboutabuseorneglectbecauseofthis.Mostofthetime
theinformationCPSisgivenissecondorthirdhandinformation.Yestheyaretheretodotheirjob.Ajobwherethey
areextremelyoverworked,incrediblyunderpaid,workingforanorganizationthatdoesntreallycareaboutits
employees,onlythenumberstheyproduce.CPSisintheoryavaluableservice.Itsnecessaryunfortunately.Butit
needsalotofwork.Morethanlikelythecaseworkershowingupatyourdoorgot23hoursofsleepthenightbefore,
andisbeyondexhausted.Bekind.Justasyouwouldtoanyone.Cooperationandunderstandingfrombothsides
makesforamuchbetterencounter.

J'booster
onJuly7,2015at7:07pmsaid:

ThanksElizabeth,

Goodinformation.Withsuchacomplexsituation,itishelpfultogetyourviewpoint.
Becky

diana
onJuly7,2015at5:15pmsaid:

Iwouldsaybecarefulwithnotlettingthemin.Myhusbanddidthatonceand6hourslatertheyreturnedwiththecops
andawarrantandremovedmykidsfor5days.Idealwithcpsatleast5timesayearandIhavelearnedbeingnice
andbeingcomplianthelps.Ifyoudonthaveanythingtohidethendontdenythemanythingbecausetheywilltryto
usethatagainstyouto.

Maggie
onJuly7,2015at5:15pmsaid:

Excellentadvice!IwouldntASKpermissiontorecordtheconversation,however,Iwouldjustdoit.Wealsohavean
arrangementwithsomeverygoodfriendswholiveoutsideourcountybutwithinadaysdrive.Theyhaveagreedto
takeourchildren,withoutnotice,noquestionsasked,ifweeverfeelthreatenedbyCPS.Wewoulddothesamefor
them.BeingoutsidethejurisdictionofourcountyisKEY.
Iftheycamebackforanothervisit(forinstance,iftheywantedtoverifythatthereisfoodinthehouse,orthatthe
houseisclean),myhusbandwouldbehomeandwouldsimplystatethattherestofusareatafriendshouse.
WewouldNEVEREVEREVERallowthemtoquestionthechildrenprivately.

DeborahBlakeCrosby

onJuly7,2015at7:26pmsaid:

Therearesomestateswhereitisinadmissible,ifbothpartiesarentaware.Youdonthavetoaskpermission
though,youjusthavetomakethemawarethatyouaredoingit,thusgivingthemthechancetorecordaswell.

lynn
onJuly7,2015at5:27pmsaid:

Theymustnotneedtheparentspermissiontotalktothechildbecausetheywenttomysonsschoolandtalkedto
him.Howcanthathappen?

Brandi
onJuly7,2015at5:31pmsaid:

Iwishthiswasheresooner.Ihadcpscalledonme3yearsagoandjustgotoutofthatlastOctober.Iwascalledon
bysomeonebecausetheirdaughterhadtouchedmysonsoIcalledonher.Shethen,asrevenge,calledonme.Ihad
nokidsathomeandwastakingapartallthebedsinthehouseandbuildingnewonessothehousewasawreckfrom
that.Ididnoneofthisandendedupdealingwiththemfor2yearsallbecauseIhadmentalhealthissuesinhigh
schoolandwashospitalizedfor6months.10YEARSAGO.Itwastheworsttimeofmylifeandmademewanttodie
morethenIdidinhighschool.Ittoremylifeinpieces.IlostmyjobhadtomovetoanothercountyandIlostallofmy
friends.Familystuckby,butthatsnotthepoint.ItwasawfulandIwishIknewthenwhatIknownow.

Brandi
onJuly7,2015at5:35pmsaid:

Myaunttemporarilylostherkidsbecauseshecalledthecopsonherhusbandbecausehewashighlyintoxicatedand
actingcrazy.Nowshecantseeherkidsbecauseshetriedtoprotectthem.Thesystemisunreal.

Toni
onJuly7,2015at6:04pmsaid:

Willtheyshowupifyournotvaccinatingyourchild?

AmandaMcdaniel
onJuly7,2015at6:51pmsaid:

Ihaverecentlyhadcpscalledfordrugsbeinginmyhome.Iknowwhocalledbecausenotonlydidthismancalledon
me,buthealsoreportedhisgirlfriendandmybrother.Idontdodrugsnoraretheyinmyhouse.Hecalledoutof
hatredbecausehecouldntcomelivewithme.WhatdoIdo!MydaughterismywholeworldandImterrifiedtheyre
goingtotryandtakeherfrommebecauseofwhathehadsaid.CPSiscomingtomorrowtoseemydaughterandgive
meamouthswab.

joanna
onJuly7,2015at7:11pmsaid:

Iambipolar,andwasinvestigatedwhenIhadmyson.TheyquestionedmebeforeIevenleftthehospital.Theydidit
withoutmyhusbandpresentandmymothertoldthemmyhousewasafilthypigsty.Wehadcleanclothesonthe
couch,becauseIwasinthemiddleoffoldinglaundrywhenIwentintolabor.IleftthehospitallateSaturdayafternoon
andtheywereatmyhouseat8:00amSunday.Theycalledmymotherandaskedifpoliceofficerswerenecessary.
OfcourseshetoldthemnoandletthemingavethemcoffeeandtheytreatedmelikeIwasntthere.Iamthemom,
thewife.Mymotherdoesntevenliveinthesamestateasme.

Emily
onJuly7,2015at7:26pmsaid:

Inmystateifyoususpectanythingyouarerequiredbylawtoreportanincident.Ifnotandsomethingdoeshappen
thosechildrenyoucouldbeheldliable.AsasocialworkerIhaveseencaseswheresomeonewastryingtogetback
atsomeonebycallingandmakingafalsereport.Everytimethathappenedthecaseworkersawitforwhatitwasand
closedthecaseafterthefirstvisit.
Iftheywouldhavefollowedthisadvicethewouldhavemadethemselveslookguiltyandthecasewouldhavebeen
openforalotlongercausingeveryonemorestressforeveryoneinvolved.

Becky
onJuly7,2015at7:37pmsaid:

Warningfosterparentsalsoyoumaythinkyouareexempt,butyouarent.Wehadouragencyandcpsshowupat
ourhouseandmovedthefosterkids,whotheyhadintendedonlettingusadopt,andmovedthemtoanotherfoster
home.Wetookthemtocourt,andarestillfightingthem,eventhoughwewereawardedlegalcustodyofthekids.
Theyeventestifiedincourtthattherewasnoreasonforremovingthemandthatweweredoingawonderfuljobwith
thekids.Theywerespecialneedsalso.Theyendeduphavingaroughtimeinthenewfosterhome.Wearehoping

thatinthenextcoupleweeks,everythingwillbefinishedandwewillhavethechildrenback,andcpswillbeoutofour
hair.Iftheydoshowup,ourattorneywilldefinitelybegettingacall.Ofcourse,alltheagenciessaytheyareoutfor
whatsbestforthechildren,butthetruthistheyareoutforwhatbringsthemmoremoney.

Christina
onJuly7,2015at7:42pmsaid:

Thankyoufortheinformation,veryinformativeandclearlywritten.Iwasjustwonderingiftheabovedmentioned
rightsareapplicableinallStates?
Thanks!

J'booster
onJuly7,2015at7:50pmsaid:

HiChristina
Thatsagreatquestion.Idonthavealltheanswers,butIbelievedifferentstates,andevendifferentcounties,
couldhavedifferences.Also,somelocationshaveexcellentcaringstaffwhoarewillingtorespectandclear
parentswrongfullycharged.Thechallengeforparentsisknowingtheintention,character,andmotivesofthe
personwhocomestovisit.Ibelieveallparentsreadingthiswantthebestfortheirchildren.Thereisobviously
somedifferenceofopinioninhowtoachievethebestoutcome.Ibelieveweneedwisdom,discernmentand
thebestsourceofthoseisfromGodthroughJesus.Ibelieveprayerisapowerfulhelpintimesoftrouble.
Becky

tz
onJuly7,2015at8:23pmsaid:

Haveyourattorneyonyourcellphonescontacts.DONOTLETCPSINTOTHEHOUSEeventotalktoyour
attorney.
YoushouldhaveadoctorthatwontturnyouintoCPSfordisagreeing,soyoualsoshouldhavealocalattorneyyou
cantrust,havecopiesofhiscard,andifyoucantcontacthim,offerthecardtoCPS.