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This is an important question for prospective applicants (in particular, undergrad/MBA students) looking for
summer internships and fulltime jobs alike.

The decision was easier for me than for most people. The cons of investment banking the long hours, the
repetitive and unengaging nature of the work, the lack of non-finance exit opportunities
mattered far more to me than a 6-figure salary. I seriously considered sales & trading (in fact, I spent a summer
at Credit Suisse First Boston in NY), and was tempted to continue in that line of work post-graduation.

Instead of defining the basic characteristics of each job (there are plenty of resources out there for that,
including the Vault andWetfeet Guides), I will address a laundry list of defining differences between the
two professions.

Let me caveat by saying THESE ARE NOT YOUR ONLY OPTIONS. People get carried away into thinking thats all
there is.

#1 SALARY

This is the biggest superficial difference. Thats not to imply that salary doesnt matter. Banking salaries
average 50-100% higherthan consulting salaries, with the difference increasingly significant as your seniority
increases. Consulting compensates with perks that banking does not offer from better travel allowances
to more generous health and retirement packages.

Consultants always like to say this:

I know investment bankers make more money. But from a cashflow perspective, its exactly the same!

This simply means that consultants and bankers make comparable base salaries, and at the end of the year,
bankers are awarded a bonus which can comprise more than 50% of their total annual compensation. Cashflow
or not, the extra money is substantial and a defining driver of why many people do investment
banking. This is also a difficult issue for consulting firms with respect to employee retention. In my time at
McKinsey, easily half the people who left the firm went into the financial world (from hedge funds to PE), and
salary was undoubtedly a major factor in the decision.

My advice is this if after considering all 5 factors Ive listed here, you still think the pay difference (for 1st yr
analysts, averaging between $30-60K/year) would mean a substantial difference in your personal and
professional job satisfaction,choose banking.

Further reading: Consulting salaries from analyst to partner


#2 LIFESTYLE

The key differences here are:

-Hours. Bankers work brutal hours, no surprise. They can average 14-16 hours/day but it can get FAR
WORSE.

My roommates in New York (both investment bankers at Goldman Sachs) would sometimes go several weeks
before wed even exchange a word. Which meant not only were they getting in after I went to sleep (around
2am), but going back to the office before I woke up (around 7am).

Your second year as an investment banker gets better in the 10-14 hours/day range but also with
unpredictably tough periods.

Consultants average 12 hours/day, with the typical variations depending on client, team goals, etc

-Travel. Bankers do some for roadshows, due diligence, etc but spend 90% of their time in one office until
youre partner-level (this is investment banking; you can expect more travel in private equity and investment
management). Consultants depending on firm travel anywhere from 25-75% of their time. At the Big 3 (Bain,
Boston Consulting Group, McKinsey), you can expect travel 50-75% of the time. Ive heard of boutiques

-Relationship with coworkers, managers, and firm. This is less discussed but equally important.
Consulting firms have a verycollegial atmosphere, where the focus is on getting the work done but
also ensuring your professional success. This attitude permeates all interactions. Managers rarely yell,
coworkers try to help each other out whenever possible, and companies are organized to provide consultants
support with training, expertise, etc. Finally, networking is important at consulting firms, and social events are
focused on helping consultants build contacts and relationships throughout the firm.

Investment banks, on the other hand, have a more competitive, hierarchical setup. You can expect more tense
relationships with your bosses, youll probably be yelled at from time to time for mistakes, and coworkers are
much less willing to help each other out (theyve got enough on their plates, and your success means theres
more competition for the biggest bonuses). In addition, youll have limited exposure across the company to
other groups, departments, etc less ability to network across the company.

Further reading: Consulting travel; Day in the life of a consultant

#3 SKILL DEVELOPMENT

Call me biased, but I received the best years of business training possible in my time at McKinsey.
Thorough and at times intense exposure to textbook business principles and practices. In addition, the project
team model leads to mentorship opportunities with managers, partners, and coworkers. Finally, you have
constant client interaction which develops client skills from managing client teams to running meetings to
learning how to navigate different corporate environments.

That being said, heres a quick list of what you can expect to learn in both fields:

By hard skills, I mostly mean software (ie Microsoft Office Suite), analytics (ie financial valuation). By soft
skills, I mean the interpersonal, qualitative interactions that you have with coworkers, the broader firm, clients,
etc
CONSULTING

Hard skills:
1) Microsoft Powerpoint you will (and have to) become a master at this, and will eventually have the ability to
produce presentations quickly, concisely, and meaningfully
2) Microsoft Excel less exposure than investment banking. Still, modeling is a meaningful component of a
consultants work, and something every consultant is expected to have significant exposure to. Note
-firmsodeling done in case work may not be directly comparable to the financial modeling more common at
investment banks
3) Business knowledge typically broad exposure across different topics like strategy, operations, organization
and several areas where youll have expertise. This expertise may be as broad as operations turnaround and
as specific as benchmarking for insurance companies.

Soft skills:
1) Client interaction (explained above)
2) Heavy team interaction
3) Presentation skills this is a cornerstone of consulting work. After all, findings dont mean anything if you
cant convince the client to believe in and adopt them
4) Project/workflow planning and execution this is subtle but important. Much of the time at investment banks,
you are given incremental work eg, add these updated numbers to the model, bind these presentations, insert
a graph on chart 11. Consulting is focused on you OWNING a piece of the entire project, setting your own
deliverables and timeline, and executing against that framework. This helps you develop the ability to be
standalone in consulting lingo.

INVESTMENT BANKING

Hard skills:
1) Microsoft Excel clearly you will become a master at this, and is a mandatory for success. Youll know the
ins-and-outs, every keyboard shortcut known to man (and then some), and so forth
2) Microsoft Powerpoint much less exposure here depending on the focus of your work (for instance, more in
Corporate Finance, less in Mergers & Acquisitions). Very little experience in building a presentation from scratch.
3) Financial valuation self-explanatory. Differs based on group/focus, but at the very least youll understand
financial statements inside and out, and have strong knowledge of how companies are financed

Soft skills:
1) Work endurance this is the upside to those 100+ hour weeks, which is the ability to work incredibly long and
incredibly hard. Basically, every job you take post investment banking will feel somewhat like a vacation. Its a
great trait to have
2) Seeing deals get done investment bankers have, at times, better access to the leading business leaders of
the day. As a junior banker, you may not have direct interaction but will be exposed through countless meetings,
conference calls, etc to these people and see how deals are done and groundbreaking changes in business
emerge day-to-day.

Further reading: 5 big mistakes that will get you fired

The last 2 points in this post are shorter, because I plan to write separate entries on each of them in the future
#4 NETWORKING

Less discussed but important. Consultants move on to a vast array of fields from industry to academia,
government to non-profit. Investment bankers do so less most continue within the financial world. Your
professional network and future career opportunities will be heavily influenced by your colleagues and
your firm alumni.

In addition my perspective is that consulting firms (similar to point #2) facilitate more interactions between
alumni and current employees as well as future networking between alumni than investment banks. However,
bulge-bracket investment banks have a much larger alumni base, and it certainly isnt impossible for you to build
strong connections provided you are proactive and innovative enough.

Further reading: How to get a consulting job in a tough economy;Networking 101

#5 EXIT OPPORTUNITIES

Corollary to point #4, this is influenced by your firms alumni and also the following:

-the different recruiters/headhunters that reach out to you


-the different paths your hiring class takes and the knowledge and opportunities you share with each other
-the relationships youve built with more senior colleagues and the doors they can open for you

When it comes down to it, the conclusion is similar: if you want maximum career flexibility, consulting provides
that in spades. If you want maximum career flexibility WITHIN finance (and corporate financial roles),
investment banking provides that.


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Deloitte To Take Over Consultancy Roland Berger

(AP) BERLIN (AP) - The U.S. professional services firm Deloitte LLP's consultancy
division is in talks to take over its competitor Roland Berger Strategy Consultants,
a company executive said Wednesday.

The takeover is aimed at creating a worldwide strategy consulting arm with an


annual revenue of about $2.8 billion, Deloitte Germany chief executive Martin
Plendl said in a conference call.

Shareholder meetings of both companies are to decide on the deal in


mid-December, he said.

A spokesman for Roland Berger, Matthias Hopfmueller, confirmed that talks with
Deloitte are under way, but declined to elaborate.

The German consultancy, based in Munich, employs about 2,000 people and
generated a revenue of 616 million in 2009, it says. Deloitte's different business
consulting lines' revenue totals $7.5 billion, Plendl said.

The merged company will bring together Deloitte's strategy, operations and
company restructuring consultancy divisions with its German competitor and will
be called Roland Berger Deloitte Strategy Consulting, Plendl said.

The new company will enjoy an "excellent market position" and aims to become a
leading player in the field, Plendl said - a clear message of attack to McKinsey Co.'s
that now dominates the market.

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2008 9

The Story of a Paranoid

1 Preface: The Maverick and His Dream

2 Chasing Daylight

3 Straight from the Gut

4 Swimming Across

5 Who Says Elephants Can't Dance

6 Pour Your Heart into It

7 Epilog: Only the Paranoid Survive

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RB Roland Berger Strategy Consultants

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About Me
Victor LIU 05
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Roland Berger Strategy Consultants Bain & Company
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