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David Pearce, works at The Neuroethics Foundation Whysomepeoplelikeanimalsmorethanhumans?


WrittenJan30,2016
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The non-human animals in human factory farms and slaughterhouses are as sentient as livesdon't?
human infants and toddlers. If human infants and toddlers were treated in the way humans
treat non-human animals, then uncontroversially, the perpetrators would be locked up for Whichanimalslivelongerinzoosthanthewild?
life. The plight of the victims would be the dening issue of our age. Of course, the esh of
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the victims ("meat") gives some humans pleasure; but so does the esh of human victims
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(cf. Australian accused of running paedophile ring opens up to 60 Minutes ) Is such
pleasure a morally relevant consideration? If so, how should we weigh the comparative
moral importance of the suering of the victims against the pleasures of those who harm
them?

Recall that non-human animals in factory farms are de-beaked, declawed, tail-docked,
castrated (etc) because otherwise in their desperation they mutilate themselves and each
other. Only profoundly distressed humans self-mutilate. Statistically, vegetarians tend to be
slimmer, longer lived and record higher IQ scores than meat eaters. A world where factory-
farms and slaughterhouses were shut and outlawed would be better for human and non-
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WrittenFeb11,2016
You would be hard pressed to nd a person who does not think child starvation,
sweatshops, violent conicts, diseases etc. are terrible things. Most people understand
that these are all serious issues and would not intentionally contribute to them (with
the exception, perhaps, of sweatshops).

This is not the case with animal suering, not by a long shot. The vast majority of people
in most countries around the world do not recognize that the mass torture/slaughter of
animals is wrong, and happily contribute to furthering that suering on a daily basis.
Children are taught from a young age (in my country at least) to eat dead animals without
associating that behavior with the actual suering and killing of animals, or they are simply
conditioned not to empathize with farm animals in the same way they empathize with
humans or house pets.
People who dedicate their lives to helping animals and promoting cruelty-free lifestyles
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People who believe in improving animal's lives feel that all lives are created equal, that an
animal has just as much a right of life and doesn't deserve to be treated as inferior. Aresomehumanlivesworthmorethanothers?

By that measure, they focus on animals because they believe that animals need the help. Whysomepeoplelikeanimalsmorethanhumans?
They don't view it as saying animals are MORE important than humans but that is the area
of life they want to focus on. Whydoanimallivesshortenincaptivitybuthuman
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This question is rather the same as asking why people help the homeless in America when
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starving children in Africa exist.
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Or why law enforcement make trac stops when "someone is probably getting assaulted
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somewhere"

Or why some people work on ghting lung cancer when skin cancer exists.

People nd their passion and what is important to them and do what they can to help in
that area. There's almost always something worse out there but that doesn't mean we
approach every issue by prioritizing what is worse or who suers more while neglecting the
less serious ones. People with the u get treatment just as people with diabetes do. We don't
say "why do you care about the u when someone out there has it worse?"

It's not a competition. Saying that you want to help empower African Americans doesn't
mean that you oppose equality for Hispanics.

And wanting to help animals doesn't mean that you oppose helping humans. But if your
passion is helping animals it's not constructive when someone goes "but people are starving
in Africa, what's wrong with you?!" anymore than it is constructive for someone to storm a
center for addiction therapy because "trauma victims need therapy, what's wrong with
you?!"

So the answer to your question is no. We clearly don't prioritize helping the worst case
scenarios while completely ignoring the less worst case scenarios because then we wouldn't
have the u shot, since obesity is a more pressing issue. People nd what their passion is,
what is important to them and they pursue it. There's no council meeting that comes
together and decides what the most pressing issues are before they solve it, people decide
for themselves what areas of life they want to improve and then they go for it.

But even then, when looking at the conditions of humans in America and the treatment of
animals it's hard for me to say that animals aren't treated worse than a lot of people. One of
the most heinous practices I can think of that's a major problem in the U.S. is the sex
tracking industry and yet there are places that do the exact same thing to animals,
keeping them as essentially animal prostitutes for paying human customers. Even the sex-
positive movement which is supposedly all about consent often approves of and accepts the
sexual abuse of animals who by denition, cannot consent to sex with a human. They see
nothing wrong with a person buying a pet and raising it for the sole purpose of having sex
with it yet scream rape if verbal consent is lacking on college campuses. What a joke.

If you want to help people, then help people, no one is stopping you. It's your life. But let
other people live their lives, doing what is important to them. If someone believes that an
animal deserves life the same as a human, then they're going to look at the deplorable way
that animals are treated with shock and horror. Animals all over the world live their entire
lives suering and abused and people condone it on a mass scale or simply overlook it
because they think humans are more deserving of civility and happiness.
Well, I don't think people are anymore deserving to be free from suering than animals are.
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Mick Cameron, Genocidal crazy cat dude.
WrittenApr2,2016
I'm one of those people so i can give you my point of view.

Throughout the span of human existence, countless numbers of species have gone extinct.
As a result of our ignorance, hubris, greed or just people being absolute pricks (trophy
hunting)

But guess what? The greater majority don't give a damn.

Every year people related charity events amassed millions of dollars whilst animal shelter
donations struggles to scrape one quarter of one million.

But yet they only ever think of themselves rst.

Imagine homeless people being gassed like the Jews in WWII for the same reason. Simply
existing.
How long before people kick up a fuss over that?

But it's completely ok to do the very same thing for the very same reason to animals.
(For those who don't know I'm talking about euthanizing homeless animals or "strays" as
most would call them. Why can't i call homeless people strays too?)

In my experience animals have always brought me joy and happiness. But i could never say
the same of humans. That may be the reason why i could see the unfairness in the world
against animals (certainly there are alot of it). But as the supposed superior apex species
king-of-the-world that is homo sapiens, why can't you use that big brain of yours and access
empathy.
You just might answer your own question and open your eyes to see how one sided the
world really is for other species that isn't human.

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Ramey Zamora, We are all animals, and therein our salvation


WrittenJan30,2016
There is this major erroneous concept that humans and animals can't both be helped
simultaneously! Why do you think that because money is going to help animals it has been
taken away from helping humans?

That's just plain wrong. Irrational, you might say.

If there are people who would rather help animals than people, it might be because they are
reacting to having seen rst hand what people DO to animals...Before you condemn as less
important their desire to help the weakest among us, you should research just a little about
cruelty to animals. Even a small "taste" will disgust you, or should.

There are people who focus on helping people. Who focus on the environment. On animal
welfare and rights. On civil rights. It isn't possible for one person to be highly active in all
these eorts, but everyone can choose how they will make society better if they can. Believe
me when I say that respecting, promoting and protecting the rights of weaker things
translates to the entire world humans live in.

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Sierra Kennedy, grew up on a farm


WrittenFeb1,2016
I think this is virtually impossible. That is to say I nd it impossible to say by helping an
animal, you could in anyway NOT help humans.

For example, and just one example at this time, over 70% of the food we grow goes to feed
livestock. Now imagine if we only small farmed, or stopped all together, livestock. Say we
keep 10% of that grain for animals still being raised. That leaves over 60% MORE food for
human consumption. Imagine, if we cut the use of GMO crops for just fattening animals and
actually tried and tested GOOD GMO projects that could in fact help human kind? We could
do that if we stopped focusing on raising more, bigger animals. Not to even mention the
simple fact that by cutting animal from your diet, you are saving the planet.

So simply put, I do not nd it in any way possible to NOT help humans while helping
animals. Vice versa? Even then, you can get solar panels, volunteer and soup kitchens,
donate to charity, etc., but you're never really giving all you could. So is it possible to even
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Steve Frankel, works at NASA Ames Research Center Whysomepeoplelikeanimalsmorethanhumans?


WrittenJan31,2016
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Because the slavery and slaughter of billions of innocent animals every year cannot be livesdon't?
compared to human suering.
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Yes, many humans suer. Yes, many humans are enslaved by others.
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suering and stop their enslavement, and bring the criminals to justice.

There is nothing comparable for animals. In fact, governments support animal slavery and
slaughter, through laws, policies, police and judicial organizations, and funding of research
on animals for medical and weapons development.

So some people feel the unfairness of the situation of the animals. By the numbers many
people are helping people, but very few people are helping the animals.

There is less and less debate about the intelligence of the animals we slaughter. There is
good evidence they feel pain, loss of kin, and can think with the mind of a 3-5 year old
human. Imagine the slaughter a 11 billion 3-5 year olds every year to be eaten be other 3-5
year olds, and their parents.

That seems irrational to some people.

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Manish Bhatt, Learning each passing moment....


WrittenFeb18,2016
What your thinking is a victim of is that circumstances dictate the behaviour of a person but
it's the other way round. If you are ready to kill an animal why should I believe that you are
not capable of killing a human because your innate nature somehow conciliates with killing
and under some circumstances it could re-conciliate with human killing too (don't say
please tell me the exact circumstances because I am no God to see everything and if it
doesn't convince you, you have a pretty bad judgement of risk). And more importantly, what
makes human superior to animals (because we have free will so we go about killing animals
-> logical extension is that I have more free will than you so I can kill you). Both lives are the
same and need to be protected without consideration whether it's animal or human.

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Xingji Qiao
WrittenApr10,2016
"The more people I meet, the more I like dogs."I can't remember where I read this sentence,
personally I don't agree, but it can explain why people like animals for some extent: We are
the same kind as human beings, but we compete with each other or even hurt each other.
Animals are "weak" and "innocent ", that's why we should protect them.

Sometimes I think people keep pets in order to make themselves feel good, because they are
always the hero for their pets. Not trying to be oensive.

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