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ASME B31.3
Process Piping
Section Committee
Meeting No. 138 Supplemental Agenda
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ASME B31.3 Process Piping Committee September 23-25, 2013 Supplemental Agenda (138)
7 PRESENTATIONS
FuseTalk Discussion Forum Demonstration
Discussion: Mr. Ted Lazar will conduct a presentation on the FuseTalk discussion forum.
This inquiry was received from Evan Shealy on August 29, 2013. It was forwarded to SG-E for a
response.
This inquiry was received from Mustafa Alpher Bas on September 4, 2013. It was forwarded to SG-E
for a response.
This inquiry was received from Mustafa Alpher Bas on September 4, 2013. It was forwarded to SG-D
for a response.
This inquiry was received from Mustafa Alpher Bas on September 4, 2013. It was forwarded to SG-D
for a response.
This inquiry was received from Mustafa Alpher Bas on September 4, 2013. It was forwarded to SG-D
for a response.
11.1.8 TN 13-1070 B31.3, Proposed Revision to Para. 300.2 Definition of Inline Pages 11-12
Portions of Instruments (A-13-02)
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ASME B31.3 Process Piping Committee September 23-25, 2013 Supplemental Agenda (138)
The project manager revised the proposal accordingly. This item was submitted to the B31.3 SC for first
consideration ballot. B31.3 SC Ballot #13-2069 is scheduled to close on October 11, 2013.
11.2.3 TN 11-1340 B31.3, Proposed Revision to B31.3, Proposed Revision to Pages 13-15
Para. 302.3.6 to Add an Absolute Limit of 4S (B-09-09)
Subgroup: B Project Manager: K. Shipley
The project manager revised the proposal accordingly. This item was submitted to the B31.3 SC for first
consideration ballot. B31.3 SC Ballot #13-2069 is scheduled to close on October 11, 2013.
11.2.10 TN 13-1540 B31.3, Proposed Revision to Para. 321.1.2 Analysis (B-07-03) Pages 16-22
Subgroup: B Project Manager: K. Shipley
This item was submitted to the B31.3 SC for first consideration ballot. B31.3 SC Ballot #13-2069 is scheduled to
close on October 11, 2013.
11.4.3 TN 11-964 B31.3 Verify that all Basic Quality Factors for Longitudinal Weld Pages 23-26
Pipe are Listed in Table A-1B (D-08-01)
Subgroup: D Project Manager: A. Yasemi
The project manager revised the proposal accordingly. This item was submitted to the B31.3 SC for first
consideration ballot. B31.3 SC Ballot #13-2069 is scheduled to close on October 11, 2013.
11.4.4 TN 11-966 B31.3, Proposed Revision to Add Grade 316Ti Tubing per Pages 27-34
ASTM A213 to Table A-1 (D-09-08)
Subgroup: D Project Manager: S. Tang
The project manager editorially revised the proposal. This item will be submitted to the B31 Standards Committee
for first consideration ballot.
11.4.17 TN 13-819 B31.3 and B31.1 (TN 13-337), Code Case Request for a New Pages 35-36
Material Listing Tungum Tubing (D-13-04)
Subgroup: D Project Manager: D. Rahoi
This item was submitted to the B31.3 SC for first consideration ballot. B31.3 SC Ballot #13-2069 is scheduled to
close on October 11, 2013.
11.4.18 TN 13-1439 Update References to NACE Standards in Appendices E and F Pages 37-41
(D-13-25)
Subgroup: D Project Manager: T. Jacobs
This item was submitted to the B31.3 SC for first consideration ballot. B31.3 SC Ballot #13-2069 is scheduled to
close on October 11, 2013.
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ASME B31.3 Process Piping Committee September 23-25, 2013 Supplemental Agenda (138)
11.5.11 TN 13-707 B31.3, Proposed Revision to Para. 341.3.4 Progressive Sampling for Pages 42-45
Examination (E-12-14)
Subgroup: E Project Manager: R. Reamey
This item was submitted to the B31.3 SC for first consideration ballot. B31.3 SC Ballot #13-2069 is scheduled to
close on October 11, 2013.
11.8.1 TN 12-1768 B31.3, Proposed Revision to Add Appendix U to Table 300.4 and Pages 46-49
Para. U344.8.2 (H-11-02)
Subgroup: H Project Manager: B. Henon
This item was submitted to the B31.3 SC for first consideration ballot. B31.3 SC Ballot #13-2069 is scheduled to
close on October 11, 2013.
12.4.22 TN 13-1557 B31.3, Proposed New Code Case for Copper Casting Alloy C87600 to ASTM B-584 to 600F
(316C) (D-13-XX)
Subgroup: D Project Manager: D. Rahoi
12.5.18 TN 13-757 B31.3, Proposed Revision to Add Code Case 181 as an Appendix Pages 50-55
(E-12-03)
Subgroup: E Project Manager: K. Chizen
B31.3 SG-E Ballot #13-1957 closed on September 12, 2013. The item received two technical comments.
The project manager is asked to prepare responses to the ballot comments and to advise the Secretary whether the
previously balloted proposal is being reaffirmed or revised based upon the ballot comments.
12.5.30 TN 13-1465 B31.3, Proposed Revision to Para. 341.4.4(c) Autogenous Welds Pages 56-57
(E-13-14)
Subgroup: E Project Manager: R. Reamey
This item was submitted to the B31.3 SC for first consideration ballot. B31.3 SC Ballot #13-2069 is scheduled to
close on October 11, 2013.
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ASME B31.3 Process Piping Committee September 23-25, 2013 Supplemental Agenda (138)
12.7.4 TN 09-1789 B31.3, Request for Section II to Provide Allowable Stresses for ASTM A 694, All Grades, Carbon
Steel Forging Materials (G-08-07)
Subgroup: G Project Manager: F. Tatar
Hydrogen Piping (P. Ellenberger): No new report. The Committee plans to meeting during B31 Code Week in
Portland, ME.
17 NEW BUSINESS
17.12 B31.3, Proposed Consideration of HAZ of Steel ASTM A 335 Gr P91 (E-13-XX) Page 64
Subgroup: E Project C. Eskridge
This item was received from Johnny Pereira on September 16, 2013. It was forwarded to SG-E for consideration.
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Inquiry 13-1499 (B31.3 SG-E)
Riad Mohamed
Yes,Iwouldlikeaformalinterpretation.IhadbelievedthatIdidfollowthedirectioninAppendixZ,musttheformal
interpretationrequestbesubmittedbyUSPS?
DearSir,
Inmyopinion,theCodedoesnotclearlyaddressthisissue.
Regards,
RiadMohamed
Secretary,B31.3
Note:Thisisaninformalresponseandonlyreflectsmyopinion.ItisnotaB31.3Committeesresponse.Ifyouwouldlikea
formalinterpretation,pleaseadvisemeandsubmityourinquiryinaccordancewithAppendixZoftheB31.3Code.The
B31.3Committeewillreviewanyformalinterpretationatitsnextmeeting,scheduledforSeptember2325,2013.ASME
doesnot"approve,""certify,""rate,"or"endorse"anyitem,construction,proprietarydevice,oractivity.
Pleaseprovideaninterpretationforthefollowingquestion:
Section345.1Isittheintentionofthecodethatleaktestingisonlyrequiredforsystemswithjoints(welded,threaded,
orbolted)?Thatis,ifashortrunofpipeisbentandeachendconnectedviaclosureweld(inaccordancewith345.2.3(c)
)ateachend,isleaktestingrequired?
ProposedreplyItisbelievedthatoncepipingisbentitisnolongeralistedcomponentandthereforeisrequiredtobe
leaktested.Althoughtheonlyjointsareclosureweldsandthecodeonlyaddressesexaminationofjoints,thebent
pipingmuststillpassahydrotest.
EvanShealy
C/OShawAREVAMOXServices
POBox7097
Aiken,SC29804
1
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Inquiry#131507(B31.3SGE)
Questions 1: In accordance with ASME B31.3-2008 edition, 331.2.3 Dissimilar Materials ( a) should
be applicable for clad ferritic pipe-clad ferritic pipe (A333 Gr6+3mm Incone625) welding?
Questions 2: In accordance with ASME B31.3-2008 edition, Heat treatment of welded joints including
both ferritic and austenitic components and filler metals is similiar austenitic base matel, 331.2.3
Dissimilar Materials ( a) should be applicable for that joint?
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Inquiry#131508(B31.3SGD)
Questions 1: In accordance with ASME B31.3-2008 edition, 323.3.5 Acceptance Criteria, Minimum
Energy Requirements should be observed for (P-Nos. 6, 7, and 8, Other carbon and low alloy steels
having specified minimum tensile strengths equal to or greater than 656 MPa)?
Questions 2: In accordance with ASME B31.3-2008 edition, 323.3.5 Acceptance Criteria ( c) , Weld
Impact Test Requirements should be applicable for clad ferrit pipe-clad ferric pipe welding? (A333
gr6 +3mm Inconel625)
Questions 3: In accordance with ASME B31.3-2008 edition, 323.3.5 Acceptance Criteria ( c ) Where
two base metals(one of P1 and other P8 )having different required impact energy values are joined
by welding, and weld metal is tensile strength is most matching the P8, Lateral Expansion
Requirements should be followed based on323.3.5 Acceptance Criteria (b)?
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Inquiry #13-1548 (B31.3 SG-E)
Subject: ASME B31.3 2008 EDITION, Table 323.2.2 Requirements for Low Temperature Toughness
Tests for Metals
Question: In accordance with ASME B31.3-2008 edition, Table 323.2.2 A-6 BOX, when SB-423
N08825 base metals welded by SFA-5.14 ERNiCrMo-3 N06625. In this case Toughness Tests
required?
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Inquiry #13-1549 (B31.3 SG-D)
Subject: ASME B31.3 2008 EDITION, Table 323.3.1 Impact Testing Requirements for Metals
Question: : In accordance with ASME B31.3-2008 edition, if we apply impact test, qualification range is
a)T/2 to T + 6 mm ?
Best Regards
M.Alper BAS
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A. Record Information
1. Record# 2. Primary Committee Responsible 3. Record Level 4. Record Sub-Type *
13-1070 B31.3 SC Out for SC Ballot Revision
B. Record Description
1. Subject *
B31.3, Proposed Revision to Para. 300.2 Definition of Inline Portions of Instruments (A-13-02)
2. Proposal
Clarify the Definition of Piping Components in Section 300.2 Definitions by adding a new definition for inline portions
of instruments.
3. Explanation *
Records #09-1445 and #12-238 refer to requests for interpretation of paragraph 300.2 definition of piping component
where it states inline portions of instruments. The proposed revision is intended to remove the confusion by adding a
new definition for inline portions of instruments to paragraph 300.2.
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Tracking Number 13-1070; ASME B31.3 Agenda Item AI A-13-02
Proposal:
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A. Record Information
1. Record# 2. Primary Committee Responsible 3. Record Level 4. Record Sub-Type *
11-1340 B31.3 SC Out for SC Ballot Revision
B. Record Description
1. Subject *
Proposed Revision to B31.3, Proposed Revision to Para. 302.3.6 to Add an Absolute Limit of 4S (B-09-09)
2. Proposal
Per the guidance of ASME STLLC R&D Report STP-PT-024 Development Of Basic Time-Dependent Allowable
Stresses For Creep Regime In Section VIII Division 1, add an absolute limit of 4S to the allowable displacement
stress range in para 302.3.6.
3. Explanation *
In response the findings of ASME STLL R&D Report STP-PT-024, it is recommended to implement an absolute limit
of 4S to the allowable displacement stress range in para 302.3.5(d). This additional 4S limit is an attempt to limit the
accumulated creep damage to 20% for an assumed 10 hour occasional load event.
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TN 11-1340 (B31.3 SG-B)
B31.3 Subgroup B AI B-09-09(Rev.1) September 2013
Proposal:
Per the guidance of ASME STLLC R&D Report STP-PT-024 Development Of Basic Time-
Dependent Allowable Stresses For Creep Regime In Section VIII Division 1, add an absolute
limit of 4S for the sum of longitudinal stress due to sustained and occasional loads in para
302.3.6. This additional 4S limit assures accumulated creep damage to be no more than 20% for
an assumed 10 hour occasional load event. For the case when occasional loads exceed 10 hours
over the life of the piping system, we set an additional limit to the stress that results in 20% creep
life fraction per Appendix V.
Explanation:
In response the findings of ASME STLL R&D Report STP-PT-024 (see attached pages 7-18 of
the report), it is recommended to implement an absolute limit of 4S to the allowable
displacement stress range in para 302.3.5(d). This additional 4S limit assures accumulated creep
damage to be no more than 20% for an assumed 10 hour occasional load event.
The initial ballot was disapproved due to not providing the STLL R&D Report STP-PT-024 as
the background information; this report is included in this ballot and the pertinent portions are
highlighted in yellow to assist the reviewer. The initial ballot also had concerns that occasional
loading over the life of the piping system can be in excess of the 10 hours used to establish the
4S limit. The proposal was revised to require occasional loading in excess of 10 hours to also be
limited by the stress to cause a 20% creep life fraction per Appendix V.
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TN 11-1340 (B31.3 SG-B)
B31.3 Subgroup B AI B-09-09(Rev.1) September 2013
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A. Record Information
1. Record# 2. Primary Committee Responsible 3. Record Level 4. Record Sub-Type *
13-1540 B31.3 SC Out for SC Ballot Revision
B. Record Description
1. Subject *
B31.3, Proposed Revision to Para. 321.1.2 Analysis (B-07-03)
2. Proposal
Add a reference to ASME Section VIII Division 1 Nonmandatory Appendix G Suggested Good Practice Regarding
Piping Reactions and Design of Supports at Attachments paragraph G-9 to ASME B31.3 paragraph 321.1.2.
3. Explanation *
Integrally welded attachments such as trunnions, clips, shoe, etc. have been used by designers and fabricators for
many years. ASME B31.3 has never given any specific guidance on the design method for these items perhaps due
to the complexities involved. However, other codes and ASME code sections have proceeded to develop guidance on
the subject. Section III NC has published two-code cases that may be used to design welded attachments of trunnions
and plates onto the run pipe wall. ASME Section VIII Division 1 and 2 guides the user by providing a list of
recommended methods that can be used to assess such welded attachments. All these methods incorporate the
complex interactions that occur at the pipe wall between the attachments and the wall. A table summarizing a number
of methods referenced in ASME Codes (Sec. III, Sec.VIII Div. 1 and 2) is attached. Rather than choosing a single
method or two and incorporating them into ASME B31.3, we thought it would be more appropriate to follow ASME
Section VIII Div.1 guidance which is also shown at the end of this ballot.
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TN 13-1540 (B31.3 SG-B)
B31.3 Subgroup B AI B-07-03 September 2013
Proposal:
Add a reference to ASME Section VIII Division 1 Nonmandatory Appendix G Suggested Good
Practice Regarding Piping Reactions and Design of Supports at Attachments paragraph G-9 to
ASME B31.3 paragraph 321.1.2.
Explanation:
Integrally welded attachments such as trunnions, clips, shoe, etc. have been used by designers
and fabricators for many years. ASME B31.3 has never given any specific guidance on the
design method for these items perhaps due to the complexities involved. However, other codes
and ASME code sections have proceeded to develop guidance on the subject. Section III NC has
published two-code cases that may be used to design welded attachments of trunnions and plates
onto the run pipe wall. ASME Section VIII Division 1 and 2 guides the user by providing a list
of recommended methods that can be used to assess such welded attachments. All these methods
incorporate the complex interactions that occur at the pipe wall between the attachments and the
wall. A table summarizing a number of methods referenced in ASME Codes (Sec. III, Sec.VIII
Div. 1 and 2) is attached. Rather than choosing a single method or two and incorporating them
into ASME B31.3, we thought it would be more appropriate to follow ASME Section VIII Div.1
guidance which is also shown at the end of this ballot.
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TN 13-1540 (B31.3 SG-B) - Background
B31.3 Subgroup B AI B-07-03 September 2013
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TN 13-1540 (B31.3 SG-B) - Background
B31.3 Subgroup B AI B-07-03 September 2013
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TN 13-1540 (B31.3 SG-B) - Background
B31.3 Subgroup B AI B-07-03 September 2013
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TN 13-1540 (B31.3 SG-B) - Background
B31.3 Subgroup B AI B-07-03 September 2013
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TN 13-1540 (B31.3 SG-B) - Background
B31.3 Subgroup B AI B-07-03 September 2013
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A. Record Information
1. Record# 2. Primary Committee Responsible 3. Record Level 4. Record Sub-Type *
11-964 B31.3 SC Out for SC Ballot Revision
B. Record Description
1. Subject *
B31.3 Verify that all Basic Quality Factors for Longitudinal Weld Pipe are Listed in Table A-1B (D-08-01)
2. Proposal
3. Explanation *
All weld joint quality factors for ASTM and API material specifications have been verified using para. 302.3.4(a),
302.3.4(b), and Table 302.3.4.
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TN 11-964
SG-D AI D-08-01
Seamless and welded fittings
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TN 11-964
SG-D AI D-08-01
Electric fusion welded pipe, 100% radiographed 1.00
Pipe
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TN 11-964
SG-D AI D-08-01
and tube
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A. Record Information
1. Record# 2. Primary Committee Responsible 3. Record Level 4. Record Sub-Type *
11-966 B31.3 SC SC Approved Revision
B. Record Description
1. Subject *
B31.3, Proposed Revision to Add Grade 316Ti Tubing per ASTM A213 to Table A-1 (D-09-08)
2. Proposal
Approve the addition of stress lines for ASTM A213 Gr. 316Ti tubing to B31.3 Table A-1.
3. Explanation *
The stress analysis provided by the BPV II materials consultant, is shown under the Committee Correspondence File
of the record.
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TN 11-966 Page 1
PROPOSAL
Add austenitic stainless steel tubing, TP316Ti, UNS S31635 of ASTM A213, to table A-1.
EXPLANATIONS
This austenitic steel tubing is frequently used for pressure piping components. It is necessary
to add this material to ASME B31.3 code. The stress values were calculated by a consultant of
Section II and approved by BVP II. Details of the calculation are included in the background
of this proposal.
It may be noticed that the notes used in this line are somewhat different from other austenitic
stainless steels, including the other similar stabilized grades, such as TP321. Notes (4b) is
needed for Table A-1M; note (30) is needed because TP316Ti is very similar to other stabilized
austenitic, including TP321, solution heat treatment at temperature no lower than 2000F
(1093C) is needed to use the stress values for applications at 1000F (538C) or higher. All
other notes used by other austenitic stainless steels are unnecessary because this material is
seamless tubing, required by ASTM A213 to be supplied in solution heat treated condition and
to conform the tensile property requirements.
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TN 11-966 Page 2
16Cr-12Ni-2Mo-Ti Tube A213 TP316Ti S31635 ... ... 8 (30) -325 75 30 20.0 20.0 20.0 19.3
italics Bold
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TN 11-966 Page 3
17.8 16.8 16.5 16.2 16.1 15.9 15.8 15.7 15.5 15.3 15.1 12.3 9.8 7.4 5.5 4.1 3.1 2.3 1.7 1.3 TP316Ti A213
bold
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TN 11-966 Page 5
(4b)(30) -200 517 207 816 138 138 138 138 138 TP316Ti A213
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TN 11-966
A213 TP316Ti 138 134 129 124 120 117 115 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106
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TN 11-966 Page 7
106 101 80.3 65.5 50.4 38.6 29.6 23.0 17.7 13.4 10.4 8.05 TP316Ti A213
bold
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A. Record Information
1. Record# 2. Primary Committee Responsible 3. Record Level 4. Record Sub-Type *
13-819 B31.3 SC Out for SC Ballot Revision
B. Record Description
1. Subject *
B31.3 Code Case Request for a New Material Listing. Copper alloy UNS C69100 Tubing. (D-13-04)
2. Proposal
new Code Case to 400F (204C) on copper alloy C69100
3. Explanation *
Alloy requested by two users, Williams Co and Mustang Eng. because it has good strength and corrosion resistance
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TN 13-819 (B31.3 SG-D)
Case XXXX
Cu-13Zn-1.1Ni-Si-Al Alloy Seamless Pipe and Tube
ASME B31.3
(a) The maximum allowable stress values for the material shall be those given in
Table 1;
(b) The maximum design temperature shall be 400F (204C);
Table1
MaximumAllowableStressValues
ForMetal ForMetal
TemperatureNot Stress, TemperatureNot Stress,
Exceeding,F ksi Exceeding,C MPa
100 20.3 40 140
150 20.3 65 140
200 20.3 100 140
250 20.3 125 140
300 20.3 150 140
350 19.9 175 137
400 19.5 200 135
225 133
Note: The maximum use temperature for this alloy is 400F (204C):
The value listed at 225C is provided for interpolation purposes only.
07/31/2013
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A. Record Information
1. Record# 2. Primary Committee Responsible 3. Record Level 4. Record Sub-Type *
13-1439 B31.3 SC Out for SC Ballot Revision
B. Record Description
1. Subject *
Update References to NACE Standards in Appendices E and F (D-13-25)
2. Proposal
Update edition dates and title changes for NACE standards in Appendix E, and references to NACE standards in
Appendix F.
3. Explanation *
The NACE standards listed in Appendix E have been re-issued since the last edition of the Code. Therefore, edition
dates of these standards listed in Appendix E should be updated. In addition, NACE has changed the title of
standards RP0170 and RP0472 to SP0170 and SP0472 respectively. MR0175 is now ANSI/NACE MR0175/ ISO
15156-3. These changes should also be updated where these NACE standards are referred in Appendix F.
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Tracking Number 13-1439; ASME B31.3 Agenda Item D-13-25
Proposal:
Update edition dates and title changes for NACE standards in Appendix E, and
references to NACE standards in Appendix F.
The NACE standards listed in Appendix E have been re-issued since the last
edition of the Code. Therefore, edition dates of these standards listed in
Appendix E should be updated. In addition, NACE has changed the title of
standards RP0170 and RP0472 to SP0170 and SP0472 respectively. MR0175
is now ANSI/NACE MR0175/ ISO 15156-3. These changes should also be
updated where these NACE standards are referred in Appendix F.
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TN 13-1746 (D-13-25)
12
ANSI/NACE MR0175/ISO 15156-3 Cir1-11
SP0170-12
SP0472-10
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TN 13-1746 (D-13-25)
SP0472
SP0472
SP0170
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TN 13-1746 (D-13-25)
SP0170
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A. Record Information
1. Record# 2. Primary Committee Responsible 3. Record Level 4. Record Sub-Type *
13-707 B31.3 SC Out for SC Ballot Revision
B. Record Description
1. Subject *
B31.3, Proposed Revision to Para. 341.3.4 Progressive Sampling for Examination (E-12-14)
2. Proposal
3. Explanation *
B31.1 Interpretation 1-62, Question(1) written in 1982 stated that With respect to welds, the Code is not specific as
to what criteria determine same kind except for the welder or welding operator, but leaves such factors as base
material, welding procedure, size of pipe, etc., to the requirements of the engineering design. In 35 years of field
experience I have never seen any requirements addressing progressive sampling in an engineering design other than
the general statement that the fabricator/erector will follow the Code. This has led to on the spot decisions that range
from everything the welder has done to only the same size pipe. The current wording in the Code is ambiguous
and leads to a lot of confusion and arguments. This proposed revision is intended to better define what same kind
actually means.
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TN13707(B31.3SGE)
8/21/2013
B31.1Interpretation162,Question(1)writtenin1982statedthatWithrespecttowelds,theCodeisnot
specificastowhatcriteriadeterminesamekindexceptforthewelderorweldingoperator,butleavessuch
factorsasbasematerial,weldingprocedure,sizeofpipe,etc.,totherequirementsoftheengineeringdesign.
In35yearsoffieldexperienceIhaveneverseenanyrequirementsaddressingprogressivesamplinginan
engineeringdesignotherthanthegeneralstatementthatthefabricator/erectorwillfollowtheCode.Thishas
ledtoonthespotdecisionsthatrangefromeverythingthewelderhasdonetoonlythesamesizepipe.
ThecurrentwordingintheCodeisambiguousandleadstoalotofconfusionandarguments.Thisproposed
revisionisintendedtobetterdefinewhatsamekindactuallymeans.
CurrentwordinginB31.32012 ProposedNewWording
341.3.4 Progressive Sampling for Examination. 341.3.4 Progressive Sampling for Examination.
When required spot or random examination reveals a When required spot or random examination reveals a
defect, then defect, then
(a) two additional samples of the same kind (if welded or (a) two additional samples of the same kind (if welded or
bonded joints, by the same welder, bonder, or operator) bonded joints, by the same welder, bonder, or operator)
from the original designated lot shall be given the same from the original designated lot shall be given the same
type of examination type of examination. For welds, same kind refers to
the same material, weld process used and weld type
(butt joint, groove weld, fillet weld, etc.) unless
previously otherwise specified by the Owner in the
Engineering Design.
Note:Addedtextisunderlined
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ReferenceInterpretation162
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A. Record Information
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12-1768 B31.3 SC Out for SC Ballot Revision
B. Record Description
1. Subject *
B31.3, Proposed Revision to Add Appendix U to Table 300.4 and Para. U344.8.2 (H-11-02)
2. Proposal
3. Explanation *
This Appendix was developed and balloted as TN 12-1768 to address a comment on TN#10-1701 from Mr.Tatar:
para. U341.4.5 states weld coupons shall be made and examined in accordance with para. U344.8 However, para.
U344.8 says nothing about how the weld coupon is made". TN 12-1768 has been revised and reissued during
Meeting #137 to address
negatives/comments.
The proposed addition of Appendix U to Table 300.4 and the reference to Appendix U in Chapter X para U344.8.2 are
necessitated by the addition of this Appendix to the Code.
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TN12-1768
(
B31.3
SG-H
)
Request
for
letter
ballot:
This
rewrite
incorporates
TN12-1812
into
TN12-1768
and
moves
the
content
of
this
proposal
from
a
Nonmandatory
Appendix
to
Chapter
X.
Proposal (1): Additions to para. U328
explain how weld coupons are made. Proposal (2): Additions to para. U344.8.1 provide details of
Weld Coupon Examination. Proposal (3): Revises the definition of weld coupon in para. 302.2.
Proposal (1): Additions to para. U328 Welding describe how and when weld coupons are made.
EXISTING PROPOSED
Paragraph 328 applies, except for paras. Paragraph 328 applies, except for paras.
328.3.2, 328.5.4, and 328.5.5. See paras. 328.3.2, 328.5.4, and 328.5.5. See paras.
U328.2.1(g), U328.2.1(h), and U328.5.1(g). U328.2.1(g), U328.2.1(h), U328.4,
U328.4.4,and U328.5.1(g)
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(2) production weld coupons may be made in
accordance with para. U328.4.4(b)(1) or, at the
owners discretion, may be cut from actual
production welds. The weld coupons shall be
selected to ensure that the work product of
each welder or welding operator doing the
production welding is represented.
Proposal (2): Additions to para U344.8.1 Definition provide details of weld coupon examination.
EXISTING PROPOSED
U344.8.2 Method. A weld coupon shall be U344.8.2 Method. A weld coupon shall be
made to allow visual examination in made to allow visual examination in
accordance with para U344.2, unless accordance with para U344.2, unless
otherwise specified in the engineering design. otherwise specified in the engineering design.
To allow direct visual examination of the inside To allow direct visual examination of the inside
surfaces, the weld coupon may be cut or a surfaces, the weld coupon may be cut or a
suitable indirect visual examination method suitable indirect visual examination method
(e.g., borescopic examination may be used. (e.g., borescopic examination may be used.
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EXISTING PROPOSED
Weld coupon: a sample weld that is taken to Weld coupon: a sample weld that is taken to
compare against primary welds. compare against primary welds used to
determine weld acceptance. Types of weld
coupons are defined as follows:
(a) primary weld coupon: made on site prior
to the start of production welding to
establish a benchmark of weld
acceptance.
(b) production weld coupon: made when
any of the conditions in para. U341.4.5
exist and used to compare against a
corresponding primary weld coupon to
demonstrate continued acceptability of
welds during production welding.
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1. Record# 2. Primary Committee Responsible 3. Record Level 4. Record Sub-Type *
13-757 B31.3 SC Review and Comment Revision
B. Record Description
1. Subject *
B31.3, Add Code Case 181 as an Appendix (E-12-03)
2. Proposal
B31.3, Proposed Revision to Add Code Case 181 as an Appendix (E-12-03)
3. Explanation *
The code text has been left relatively unchanged form what is within 181-2. There are no technical changes between
this proposal and 181-2.
EskridgeW (Comment)
Date Posted: 09/06/13
I really like to make this Appendix U, in line with API
650. I will coordinate with Edit
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Appendix X
Alternative Ultrasonic Acceptance Criteria
X300 General
X320 Personnel
This Appendix provides an alternative
acceptance criteria that may be used for ASME a) Set-up and scanning of welds shall be
B31.3 piping (in lieu of those described in para. performed by personnel certified as
344.6.2. The alternative acceptance criteria NDE Level II or III (or by Level I
within this appendix is a fracture mechanics personnel under the direct supervision of
based acceptance criteria. When applying the Level II or Level III personnel).
acceptance criteria contained within this b) Interpretation and evaluation of data
Appendix, the requirements described in this shall be performed by NDE Level II or
Appendix shall be met. III personnel.
c) Examination personnel shall be
X301 Scope qualified and certified following a
procedure or program as described in
a) The examination shall be conducted
BPV Code, Section V, Article 1, T-120
using automated or semi-automated
(e), (f), (h) or (i).
techniques utilizing computer based data
d) Personnel demonstration requirements
acquisition.
shall be as stated in ASME Section V,
b) The examination shall be performed in
Article 4 Mandatory Appendix VIII and
accordance with a written procedure
all additional Owner stipulated
approved by an NDE Level III and
demonstration requirements.
conforming to the requirements of
ASME Section V, Article 4 Mandatory
X330 Examination
Appendix VIII and:
i) For Phased Array ASME Section a) The initial straight beam scan for
V, Article 4, Mandatory Appendix reflectors that could interfere with the
V angle beam examination shall be
ii) For Time of Flight Diffraction performed (a) manually, (b) as part of a
(TOFD) - ASME Section V, Article previous manufacturing process, or (c)
4, Mandatory Appendix III during the weld examination, provided
c) Procedure qualification shall meet the detection of these reflectors is included
requirements of ASME Section V, in the demonstration as required in
Article 4, Mandatory Appendix IX. X301 (c) above.
d) The acceptance criteria within this b) The examination area shall include the
Appendix is applicable to welds having volume of the weld, plus the lesser of
a thickness equal to or greater than 25mm (1.0 in.) or t of adjacent base
25mm (1.0 in.). The acceptance criteria metal. Alternatively, the examination
stated in 344.6.2 shall be used for all volume may be reduced to include the
thicknesses below 25mm (1.0 in.). actual heat affected zone (HAZ) plus
6mm (0.25 in.) of base material beyond
X310 Equipment the heat affected zone on each side of
the weld, provided the extent of the
a) A mechanical guided scanner capable of
weld HAZ is measured and documented.
maintaining a fixed and consistent
c) Scanning may be performed at reference
search unit position relative to the weld
level provided the procedure
centerline shall be used.
qualification was performed at reference
level.
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pressure retaining surface of the
X340 Data Recording and Capture component.
ii) The height, h, of the discontinuity
a) Data shall be recorded in the
shall be drawn normal to the inside
unprocessed form with no thresholding.
pressure retaining surface of the
The data record shall include the
component.
complete examination area as specified
iii) The discontinuity shall be
in X330 (b) above.
characterized as a surface or
X350 Data Analysis subsurface discontinuity, as shown
in Figure 1.
a) Reflectors exceeding the limits below iv) A subsurface indication shall be
shall be investigated to determine considered as a surface discontinuity
whether the indication originates from a if the separation (S in Figure 1) of
discontinuity or is a geometric the indication from the nearest
indication in accordance with (b) below. surface of the component is equal to
i) For amplitude based techniques, the or less than half the through wall
location, amplitude, and extent of all dimension (h in Figure 1, sketch [b])
reflectors that produce a response of the subsurface indication.
greater than 20% of the reference b) Multiple Discontinuities
level shall be evaluated. i) Discontinuous indications that are
ii) For non-amplitude based oriented primarily in parallel planes
techniques, the location and extent shall be considered to lie in a single
of all images that have an indicated plane if the distance between the
length greater than 4.0mm (0.16 in.) adjacent planes is equal to or less
shall be investigated. than 13mm (0.50 in.) or 0.5t,
b) Ultrasonic indications of geometric whichever is less.
and/or metallurgical origin shall be ii) If the space between two indications
classified as specified in ASME Section aligned along the axis of weld is less
V, Article 4 Paragraph T-481. than the height of the indication of
i) Alternatively, other techniques or greater height, the two
NDE methods may be used to discontinuities shall be considered a
classify an indication as geometric single discontinuity.
(e.g., alternative beam angles, iii) If the space between two indication
radiography). The method employed aligned in the through-thickness
is for information only to classify dimension is less than the height of
the indication as geometric, and the indication of greater height, the
ASME B31.3 requirements for two indications shall be considered
examination techniques are only a single discontinuity.
required to the extent they are
applicable. X370 Discontinuity Acceptance Criteria
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TABLE 1
Acceptance Criteria for Surface Flaws
Weld Thickness
Aspect Ratio, < 25mm to 64mm 100mm to 300mm
h/ (1.0 in. to 2.5 in.) (3.9 in. to 11.8 in.)
h/t h/t
0.00 < 0.031 < 0.019
0.05 < 0.033 < 0.020
0.10 < 0.036 < 0.022
0.15 < 0.041 < 0.025
0.20 < 0.047 < 0.028
0.25 < 0.055 < 0.033
0.30 < 0.064 < 0.038
0.35 < 0.074 < 0.044
0.40 < 0.083 < 0.050
0.45 < 0.085 < 0.051
0.50 < 0.087 < 0.052
General Notes:
(a) t = thickness of the weld excluding any allowable reinforcement. For a
butt joint joining two members having different thickness at the joint,
t is the thinner of the two thicknesses joined. If a full penetration weld
includes a fillet weld, the effective throat dimension of the fillet weld
shall be included in t.
(b) Aspect Ratio (h/) used may be determined by rounding the calculated
h/ down to the nearest 0.05 increment value within the column, or by
linear interpolation.
(c) For intermediate thickness t (weld thicknesses between 64mm and
100mm [2.5 in. and 3.9 in.]) linear interpolation is required to obtain
h/t values.
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TABLE 2
Acceptance Criteria for Subsurface Flaws
Weld Thickness
Aspect Ratio, < 25mm to 64mm 100mm to 300mm
h/ (1.0 in. to 2.5 in.) (3.9 in. to 11.8 in.)
h/t h/t
0.00 < 0.068 < 0.040
0.10 < 0.076 < 0.044
0.20 < 0.086 < 0.050
0.30 < 0.098 < 0.058
0.40 < 0.114 < 0.066
0.50 < 0.132 < 0.076
0.60 < 0.156 < 0.088
0.70 < 0.180 < 0.102
0.80 < 0.210 < 0.116
0.90 < 0.246 < 0.134
1.00 < 0.286 < 0.152
General Notes:
(a) t = thickness of the weld excluding any allowable reinforcement. For a
butt joint joining two members having different thickness at the joint,
t is the thinner of the two thicknesses joined. If a full penetration weld
includes a fillet weld, the effective throat dimension of the fillet weld
shall be included in t.
(b) Aspect Ratio (h/) used may be determined by rounding the calculated
h/ down to the nearest 0.05 increment value within the column, or by
linear interpolation.
(c) For intermediate thickness t (weld thicknesses between 64mm and
100mm [2.5 in. and 3.9 in.]) linear interpolation is required to obtain
h/t values.
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h
h
S < 0.5h
(a) Surface Flaw (b) Surface Flaw
S > 0.5h
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1. Record# 2. Primary Committee Responsible 3. Record Level 4. Record Sub-Type *
13-1465 B31.3 SC Out for SC Ballot Revision
B. Record Description
1. Subject *
B31.3, Proposed Revision to Para. 341.4.4(c) Autogenous Welds (E-13-14)
2. Proposal
3. Explanation *
The purpose of this proposal is to clarify the following paragraph by eliminating the word electric when referring to the
use of non-destructive examination as all forms of NDE, except Visual (VT) and Bubble Leak Testing (BLT) use
electricity.
Ballot#132069isscheduledtocloseonOctober11,2013.
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TN131465(B31.3SGE)
The purpose of this proposal is to clarify the following paragraph by eliminating the word
electric when referring to the use of non-destructive examination as all forms of NDE, except
Visual (VT) and Bubble Leak Testing (BLT) use electricity.
341.4.4(c)
(c) Additional Examination Required for Autogenous Welds, Without Filler Metal, in Austenitic
Stainless Steel and Austenitic High Nickel Alloys. Autogenously welded pipe shall receive
nondestructive electric examination in accordance with the material specification. Autogenously
welded expansion joint bellows shall be examined in accordance with para. X302.2.2(c).
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ASME COMMITTEE CORRESPONDENCE
The ASME B16 Standards Committee last met on March 20th, 2013 in Tampa, FL. It is
responsible for 34 standards and the next meeting is scheduled for late-March, 2014 during the
ASME B16 Code Week. Current activity and status of ASME B16 Standards being of interest to
B31.3 is as follows:
MTC: Material Technical Committee, met to discuss the many material description changes
being made in ASTM. A review continues to list all the proper classifications in the material
tables of the different B16 standards. Discussion also centered on ASTM materials not currently
listed in B16.5 and B16.34. A proposal to use Code Case to add listed materials to the standards
was proposed and unanimously approved.
ASME B16.34-2013 Valves-Flanged, Threaded and Welding End. The standard is current
and up to date. Extension of flanged valves sizes from NPS 24 to NPS 48 was incorporated but a
new proposal is being developed to match valve sizes of B16.47 to NPS 60. Subcommittee N is
in the process of developing a standard similar to B16.34 to cover plastic valves. Work continues
to develop a draft that addresses plastic butterfly valves 1st, quarter turn (ball, plug, etc.) valves
2nd and then check valves. Current discussion centered on the size range and materials being
proposed for the standard.
ASME B16.10-2009 Face to Face and End to End Dimensions of Valves. This standard is
being updated for 2014. Consideration to incorporate MSS SP-135, knife gate valve dimensions
into the standard was approved by the Standards Committee. New action item to extend the sizes
to NPS 60 was opened.
ASME B16.5-2013 Pipe Flanges and Flange Fittings NPS - NPS 24, Metric/Inch.
The standard is current and up to date. Revision of paragraph 6.9.5 pertaining to internal thread
gauging was done to be uniform with other ASME standards. Tolerances for perpendicularity of
raised face and flange bore was also added. Subcommittee C has been asked and is considering
the development of a new standard on compact flanges based on Norsok L-005. Several new
items were opened to include NPS 22 since other ASME standards include this size, review the
metrication of the 1/16 and raised step height dimensions from 2mm to 1.6mm and from 7mm
to 6.4mm respectively and require flange and flange fittings when made from forgings to be
made close to the final shape for all materials .
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ASME B16.36-2009 Orifice Flanges. Standard is up to date. The next edition is scheduled for
publication in 2014. All items Board Approved before June 2014 will be included in the next
edition.
ASME B16.47-2011 Large Diameter Steel Flanges (NPS 26 NPS 60). Standard is up to
date and has been moved to a 3 year publication cycle. The next edition of B16.47 is scheduled to
be issued in 2016 to correspond with B16.5 and B16.34 publication dates. All items Board
Approved before June 2016 will be included in the next edition. A new item was opened to
include bolt length data in the tables, as in B16.5. Proposal will be prepared for consideration.
ASME B16.48-2010 Line Blanks. Standard is current and up to date. The next edition is
scheduled to be issued in 2015. Proposal to explicit prohibit two piece blanks is being considered
and will be balloted.
ASME B16.9-2012 Factory Made Wrought Steel Butt Welding Fittings. Standard is current
and up to date. Design proof test revisions were made in the new edition to address the numerous
inquiries received. A proposal to add large diameter fittings up to NPS 120 was dropped since
AWWA Standards already covers the sizes.
ASME B16.25-2012 Buttwelding Ends. Standard is current and up to date. The Standard is
serving the industry well. Subcommittee F has opened an item to consider adding sizes NPS -
2 and NPS 50 60 in Table 1 and Table I-1
ASME B16.20-2012 Metallic Gaskets for Pipe Flanges. The standard is up to date. It
includes the Grooved Metal Gasket with Covering Layers (aka as the kammprofile gasket) in the
standard. Subcommittee G is considering a non-mandatory appendix for spiral wound gaskets
design based on performance based criteria.
ASME B16.21-2011 Non Metallic Flat Gaskets for Pipe Flanges. Standard is current and up
to date.
Respectfully Submitted
Carlos E. Davila, PE
Crane Energy
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1
Respectfully Submitted
Phil Ellenberger
Phil Ellenberger.
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The ASME Bioprocessing Equipment (BPE) Standard Committee met in Dublin, Ireland from
June 10 to 13, 2013.
Branch Study
The results of a branch study report were presented at the BPE meeting in Dublin. This was the
completion of a major effort to develop empirical data with regard to establishing parameters for
CIP and other such uses. It was an attempt at better defining the relationship between liquid
flow velocity in a piping header and the extent to which turbulent flow would extend into a
branch line. The test variables included not only varying flow velocities, but also header size to
branch size variations, as well as the in-plane angle and circumferential angle relationship of the
branch to the header. This will ultimately provide more accurate L/D ratios, where L is the leg
extension from the I.D. wall normal to the flow pattern or direction, and D is the I.D. of the
extension or leg of a tubing fitting or the nominal dimension of a valve or instrument.
Current ballots:
Ballot # 13-245RC1 Proposed revision of BPE MJ 7.3.3(b) by adding 'welder's' and 'welding'
before the word 'operators'. (Part of clean-up for entire Standard.) Approved on recirculation.
Ballot # 13-309 Proposed revision of paragraphs BPE PM 4.2.6 to PM 4.2.9 and figures. This is
a first step towards bringing polymer joining into Part Materials Joining
(TN MJ-12-07). Approved on recirculation.
Ballot # 13-310 Proposed revision of BPE GR 4.2.3(d) and MJ 7.2.5. This is an attempt to
harmonize requirements for eye exams for consistency in BPE Parts GR and MJ. Approved on
recirculation.
Ballot # 13-660RC1 This proposal cautions users about the use of schedule pipe for hygienic
systems, especially with the weld acceptance criteria in MJ-8.3 and Table MJ-8.3-1. However, it
was determined that this issue also encompassed Part SD and that SD needed to incorporate
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text to the effect that not only welding was effected, but surface finish, dimensions and
tolerances as well. MJ presented this to SD, which voted at the Baltimore meeting in October
2012 to include the following at the end of SD-3.1.1:
Piping systems described in Part SD refer to hygienic tubing systems. Caution should be
exercised if using schedule pipe to ensure that the requirements of this standard are met. The
requirements of hygienic tubing (e.g. surface finish, dimensions and tolerances) are not typically
met by schedule pipe. This ballot puts forward that approved text. Approved on recirculation.
(TN MJ-12-08) This TG is continuing the evaluation of other material joining terms in
ASME BPE vs. ASME B31.3, especially High Purity Fluid Service (in the B31.3-2012
Edition) for accuracy and consistency. A list of recommendations was previously
provided under TN MJ-12-08 which includes orbital weld, autogenous weld, overlap,
and tube attachment weld. This TG effort was completed and reported at the January 2013
San Juan meeting that there are no conflicting terminology between BPE and B31.3.
(TN MJ- 12-14) Precautionary statement in Part SD regarding application of MJ weld criteria for
tubing to schedule pipe. The initial issue regarded the suggested addition of a cautionary
statement noting that welded pipe could not meet the same weld acceptance criteria as
tube. It evolved into changes required in Part SD to remove the term schedule where it
preceded pipe. This issue is still active.
(TN MJ-12-16) Proposal to drop reference to ASTM A923 for duplex stainless steel. This issue
has to do with production weld thickness limitations on duplex stainless steels to the thickness
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which passes the ASTM A923, Methods A and/or C tests. The TG is waiting on the results of work
being funded by ASME on how microstructure and corrosion resistance are affected by cooling
rate. Still an open issue.
(TN MJ 12-17) Brazing of copper tubing for process gas systems. Reference to NFPA
99. This is still an active issue.
(TN MJ 12-25) Clarify statement in BPE that welders and welding operators working for a fitting
manufacturer must be qualified to ASME BPVC Sect. IX. While it was intended that fitting
manufacturers would comply with Part MJ it needs to be more clearly stated. The
proposed change will be voted on prior to the October 2013 meeting in Kansas City.
(TN MJ 13-02) Change name of Material Joining to Materials Joining because of the
addition of polymers to MJ. This TG effort is complete. The name change will take place in
the 2014 issue.
(TN MJ 13-08) MM-5.1.1 implies that the sulfur content range of 0.005% to 0.017% applies to all
stainless steels in Table MM-2.1-1 (some European materials will not meet this), and there is no
reference back to MM-2.1.1(a) where exception can be made if the welds are internally inspected.
The purpose of MJ-2.1.1(a), 3rd paragraph, is to allow use of materials not meeting the sulfur
content provided the listed conditions are met (reason is to avoid weld penetration problems).
Part MM will propose that MM will refer to MJ-2.2.1(a).
BPE Certification
As a result of four completed audits performed by ASME Auditors there are four items that will be
addressed in the MJ Sub-Committee:
Respectfully,
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I come back to this request information that respects the maximum hardness of the HAZ of steel ASTM A 335
Gr P91. Several tests performed in the laboratory on a strong welding control showed that it is almost
impossible to obtain the hardness specified by ASME B31.3 which is HB 241, however such specified hardness
is already below the maximum specified for the base material in question is 265HV (maximum). Because it is a
HAZ hardness always presented himself above the specified base material.
Several welds made by our company has been disapproved because these factors specified by ASME B31.3
from experience that all welds conducted under a strong quality control showed hardness in the HAZ around
280 to 290HB.
Is expected to occur in the future any change in the standard as regards the hardness of HAZ?
Grateful for your understanding!
I'm waiting for an expert opinion.
Thank you!
--
Atenciosamente,
Johnny A. Pereira
Depto Tcnico/Comercial
QualyService Solues em Soldagens e Ensaios Tecnolgicos Ltda.
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