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BEST OF: Gov. Rod


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BEST OF: Ex-Chicago


cops Pratscher, Salinas, 09-26-2009 08:47 PM
Navigatr1 19 21 by Navigatr1
Maka, Markiewicz to plead
guilty to corruption

BEST OF: Gov Rod


Blagojevich brother Robert 09-04-2009 02:31 PM
Navigatr1 0 5 by Navigatr1
Blagojevich: "I'm not a
criminal"

Drew Peterson charged


with murder of 3rd wife, 07-07-2010 07:49 PM
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4th wife still missing ( 1
2 3 ... Last page )

Chicago approves strictest


gun ordinance in the US - 07-03-2010 03:04 AM
GC Marciano 0 12 by GC Marciano
Supreme court be
damned.

Chicago officer arrested in 06-30-2010 03:48 PM


Navigatr1 0 2 by Navigatr1
bribery investigation

Ex-Chicago cop Jon


06-29-2010 10:53 PM
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torture

Illinois inmate bleeds to


06-29-2010 10:11 AM
death as guards ignore Night Raven 0 7 by Night Raven
him for weeks (IL)

Police Cmdr. Jon Burge


06-29-2010 03:14 AM
On Trial For Lying About Navigatr1 1 7 by Night Raven
Torture Of Black Suspects

Feds order McHenry Co


deputies to hand over cell 06-14-2010 03:10 PM
Navigatr1 0 10 by Navigatr1
phone records in abuse
case

East St. Louis officer


Antonio "Tony" McWherter 06-02-2010 03:04 PM
Navigatr1 0 4 by Navigatr1
gets probation for beating
prisoner

Moved: Drunk cop John


Killackey convicted of 05-28-2010 05:23 PM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
bilking cabbie out of $8
fare (IL)

You Can Get 15 Years in


05-26-2010 11:37 PM
Jail For Recording an On- Night Raven 5 45 by jeremy1982
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Moved: Harvey Police


05-12-2010 06:04 AM
Allegedly Interfere with Jacoba - - by Jacoba
Gun Theft Investigation

Sheriff Raymond M.
Martin arrested for sale/ 05-05-2010 09:23 AM
GC505 45 288 by huckabuck001
dist. of drug evidence,
murder for hire ( 1 2 3 )

Marion IL cop Dustin G


04-27-2010 01:22 AM
Whitehead guilty of civil GC Marciano 3 31 by Jacoba
rights violation

2 IL State Reps call on IL


Gov. to deploy National 04-26-2010 06:19 PM
Jacoba 2 18 by pyo1
Guard to safeguard
Chicago streets

Illegally stormed, tased


04-23-2010 09:49 AM
and maced by Chicago GC Marciano 2 19 by Night Raven
swine:

5 Mattoon Police
04-23-2010 06:58 AM
Department employees Navigatr1 1 13 by GC Marciano
laid off today

IL House dumps dumps 03-27-2010 11:39 PM


GC Marciano 0 13 by GC Marciano
"ticket quota" ban:

Moved: Retired cop Mark


E Chittick arrested on DUI, 03-27-2010 07:35 PM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
weapons charges after
police chase (IL)

Moved: Officer Justin Allen


Workman arrested on 03-27-2010 06:35 PM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
domestic battery charge
(IL)

IL State Police to lay off 03-26-2010 04:46 AM


GC Marciano 12 52 by Jacoba
nearly 500 troopers

Elgin IL copscum Jason


03-10-2010 09:27 PM
Barnard's Wife Shoots, Night Raven 0 3 by Night Raven
Misses Him (IL)

Moved: Leroy Kuffel


former Round Lake Beach 03-03-2010 03:43 AM
Vundering - - by Vundering
cop guilty of having sex
with a 16-year old (IL)

Marion County IL "Sheriff"


02-28-2010 10:33 AM
Brad Wolenhaupt in Jail Night Raven 0 4 by Night Raven
Where He Belongs (IL)

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South Holland TX "Officer"


Shawn Staples Stalks, 02-25-2010 04:26 PM
Night Raven 0 7 by Night Raven
Assaults Man in Restroom
(TX)

Illinois has long legacy of 02-19-2010 10:22 AM


Vundering 0 8 by Vundering
public corruption (IL)

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Bloomington IL "Police
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Night Raven 0 2 by Night Raven
on Mystery Paid Vacation
(IL)

Weis Proposes "Covert"


02-17-2010 12:52 AM
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Crime

Former States Atty William K


02-08-2010 06:21 AM
Richardson charged with GC505 3 28 by GC505
hunting offenses:

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Waukegan IL officer Mallory


02-07-2010 01:20 PM
Baker sics K9 on helpless Night Raven 0 12 by Night Raven
bystander, sued (IL)

Herrin IL cops accused of


02-02-2010 11:42 PM
beating man; Kyle Rinella sassy500 30 312 by GC505
guilty ( 1 2 )

Chicago "Police Officers" C.


01-31-2010 01:09 PM
Kuri and P. Stauton Try To Night Raven 0 10 by Night Raven
Murder Another Citizen (IL)

Ill. man sues police, lawyers 01-28-2010 12:36 PM


Night Raven 0 10 by Night Raven
who framed him (IL)

Drew Peterson Investigation,


01-27-2010 02:23 AM
a case of incompetency or a Jacoba 1 14 by Night Raven
cop coverup?

"Mystery" Wheaton Ill.


01-21-2010 11:41 PM
"Police Officer" crashes into Night Raven 0 3 by Night Raven
house at 4 A.M. (IL)

Chicago "police officer"


01-21-2010 12:36 PM
Tiffany Brown makes "Million Night Raven 0 9 by Night Raven
Dollar Felon" List (IL)

American HERO kicks schitt


01-19-2010 04:35 PM
out of copscum and bites his Vigilance 5 30 by pyo1
nipple off!

Cop accused of skimming 01-17-2010 10:00 AM


pyo1 0 5 by pyo1
$1M from union

Cops: Officer used Taser on 01-14-2010 02:03 PM


duncan 0 6 by duncan
3 boys

Chicago "police officer" Sean


01-13-2010 11:46 PM
Ryan sells stolen guns Night Raven 0 3 by Night Raven
illegally

More Taser Insanity from


Whacko Kankakee School 01-13-2010 12:42 PM
Night Raven 0 8 by Night Raven
District 111 (IL) with
Deranged Cops

Chicago Cop Seeks Court 01-13-2010 10:35 AM


pyo1 0 4 by pyo1
Review of Termination

Numbnuts Niles "police


01-12-2010 05:23 PM
officers" taser 83-year-old Night Raven 0 6 by Night Raven
woman

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Chicago Copscum Being


Sued Again, this time for 01-12-2010 10:03 AM
Night Raven 0 6 by Night Raven
breaking man's leg, then
leaving him

Police Lt. files criminal


01-12-2010 01:09 AM
complaint against his Chief... Jacoba 4 38 by GC505
but he gets arrested!

Marion County, Ill. "Sheriff"


01-08-2010 01:54 PM
Brad Wolenhaupt A Felon Night Raven 0 5 by Night Raven
Himself!

Chicago Police May Scrap 01-07-2010 01:48 PM


Jacoba 2 14 by AVENGER
Entrance Exam: Report

LaGrange Cop tasered


01-03-2010 09:44 PM
UNCONSIOUS diabetic 11 GC505 0 11 by GC505
times

Whackjob LaGrange Park


01-02-2010 11:40 AM
"Officer" Darren Pedota Night Raven 1 17 by Night Raven
Tasers Seizure Victim

Moved: Lockport cop Edward


12-22-2009 02:38 PM
Stapinski charged with pyo1 - - by pyo1
reckless homicide, DUI (IL)

Chicago "Officer" Richard


Kleinpass Just Another A$ 12-19-2009 12:14 AM
Night Raven 0 4 by Night Raven
$wipe Copscum Who Abuses
Animals

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Vundering 1 9 by Vundering
more than $90,000 at
craps tables (IL)

Chicago officer shoots self 12-17-2009 03:28 PM


pyo1 0 7 by pyo1
by accident

Off-duty Chicago police


12-16-2009 04:30 PM
"officer" Points Gun, Then Night Raven 1 15 by pyo1
Lies About It

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Officer Richard Fiorito has


12-15-2009 09:35 AM
been placed on Vundering 1 9 by Night Raven
administrative leave (IL)

Ill. Campus Cop Cleared of 12-13-2009 02:50 PM


pyo1 0 4 by pyo1
Threat Allegations

Creal Springs cop fired


12-13-2009 01:01 AM
after battering woman GC505 1 15 by GC505
while child present:

Country Club Hills IL


12-12-2009 07:32 PM
Police Being Sued for Night Raven 0 6 by Night Raven
Stupidity Again

Paxton IL Cops
12-12-2009 07:29 PM
Successfully Sued in Night Raven 0 2 by Night Raven
man's death for $175,000

Elgin IL Police Big Fans of


12-12-2009 07:25 PM
Animal Cruelty When They Night Raven 0 7 by Night Raven
Can Get Away With It

Sangamon County IL
12-12-2009 07:20 PM
Sheriff Keeps Night Raven 0 4 by Night Raven
Incriminating Files Secret

Washington Park (IL)


12-08-2009 08:52 PM
"officer" Donald Williams Night Raven 0 8 by Night Raven
shoots woman

Family sues "brave"


12-07-2009 09:58 PM
Chicago cops who beat Night Raven 1 21 by Jacoba
autistic teen

Chicago Keystone Kop


12-03-2009 10:37 AM
Shoots Dog, also Another Night Raven 0 4 by Night Raven
Kop

Copskum Sgt. J. Hille &


Riverdale Police Wrongful 12-01-2009 07:46 PM
Night Raven 0 7 by Night Raven
arrest, held 4-year-old on
Thanksgi

Moved: Drunk Alton cop


11-26-2009 11:33 PM
Jennifer Penney pleads Night Raven - - by Night Raven
guilty to DUI (IL)

Drunk Sheriff's Son Tyler


11-26-2009 12:47 AM
McCoy Given Special Night Raven 0 7 by Night Raven
Treatment, Not Charged

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Armed Politicians: An
11-22-2009 10:30 PM
unfortunate Chicago Jacoba 0 12 by Jacoba
tradition

Cop arrested for 11-20-2009 01:58 PM


GC505 1 13 by pyo1
misusing police database:

Chicago Police
Superintendent Jody Weis 11-19-2009 01:08 PM
Night Raven 0 2 by Night Raven
Supoenaed In Attempted
Murder Case

Hearing Held To
11-17-2009 08:28 PM
Determine If Abbate Will Night Raven 0 2 by Night Raven
Remain With CPD

More Brutality Charges 11-17-2009 04:07 PM


Night Raven 0 8 by Night Raven
Against Chicago Cops

Cook County Prosecutors


11-11-2009 08:49 PM
Try To Hide Truth About Night Raven 3 25 by Night Raven
Their Own Incompetence
11-08-2009 10:28 AM
Injustice in Illinois Night Raven 0 9 by Night Raven

Look! Judge Follows the 11-05-2009 08:41 PM


pyo1 1 20 by liberranter
Law???

Open letter to the Ilinois


11-02-2009 02:01 PM
State Police: your advice pyo1 0 8 by pyo1
will get women killed

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pyo1 1 8 by pyo1
CPD?

Moved: Deputy Jessie


Alvarez, Fire Chief Roger 10-29-2009 03:13 PM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Thornton Charged with
DUIs (CA, IL)

Moved: Cicero Town


President Larry Dominick 10-29-2009 07:36 AM
Vundering - - by Vundering
in lawsuit for sexually
harassment (IL)

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Chicago wants to buy 10-27-2009 04:05 PM


pyo1 1 11 by liberranter
snitches!

Moved: Cop Christopher


Lloyd Caught On Camera 10-27-2009 01:45 PM
liberranter - - by Navigatr1
Beating Special Needs
Student; Rape (IL, IN)

Cops plan benefit for


10-27-2009 01:36 PM
officer Joseph Frugoli Vundering 10 47 by liberranter
charged in fatal DUI (IL)

Cops' 'hurt feelings' not 10-26-2009 10:18 AM


Vundering 1 17 by Night Raven
worth $250K to court (IL)

Illinois prosecutors
accused of ‘undermining’ 10-26-2009 10:12 AM
Night Raven 0 8 by Night Raven
wrongful-conviction
project

Dolton police officers


10-23-2009 05:57 PM
beat up innocent man, Vundering 2 21 by liberranter
lawsuit claims (IL)

Punishment for 911 10-23-2009 02:12 PM


Vundering 5 26 by liberranter
Screw Up

Lon Mark, former top


10-22-2009 08:42 AM
Blagojevich, pleads quilty Vundering 0 4 by Vundering
(IL)

Battery suspect dies in


10-20-2009 04:40 PM
Dekalb County jail after GC505 3 18 by liberranter
"falling down" in his cell:

19 year old female


10-20-2009 01:45 PM
"strangles self" in Dekalb GC505 3 30 by GC505
County Jail:

Adminstration leave for


cop Richard Fiorito 10-19-2009 06:09 AM
Vundering 3 12 by Vundering
accused of making false
arrests (IL)

Chicago Police Probed for 10-17-2009 04:34 PM


pyo1 0 8 by pyo1
Posing With Suspect

Moved: Cop Christopher


Lloyd who assaulted teen 10-14-2009 11:05 AM
Night Raven - - by Night Raven
now in jail on rape charge
(IL, IN)

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Chicago PD cop Germaine


Wrencher sued: runs 10-13-2009 08:38 PM
Vigilance 0 9 by Vigilance
jogger over with cruiser
then beats him

Chicago cop accused of


10-09-2009 10:16 PM
false arrest over his Vigilance 0 12 by Vigilance
parking ticket

21 plaintiff Lawsuit
10-06-2009 10:03 PM
accuses cop of fake DUI Vigilance 0 10 by Vigilance
arrests

Crooked cops’ reign of 10-02-2009 02:52 PM


Vundering 0 10 by Vundering
terror

Deputy Randall Nadolski


10-01-2009 01:49 AM
arrested for DUI, Sheriff GC505 3 13 by Mack
seeks to fire him:

Alexander County sheriff


lays off 75% of deputies, 09-29-2009 04:52 PM
GC505 5 33 by Vigilance
squad car fleet
reposessed:

Obama's Hometown
09-28-2009 08:28 PM
Police: Useless at Best, liberranter 0 7 by liberranter
Deadly at Worst

East St Louis cop Debra


Simpkins acquitted of 09-27-2009 11:45 AM
Navigatr1 1 5 by Navigatr1
charges; tried to interfere
with police

Nurse sues Chicago cop


who arrested her for 09-26-2009 08:36 PM
Vigilance 4 32 by Navigatr1
asking boss for guidance
on DUI suspect

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09-18-2009 03:23 PM
oerpowers 2 cops, escapes pyo1 0 5 by pyo1
with vehicle and arms

Mayor shows witnesses DL 09-18-2009 03:18 PM


pyo1 0 11 by pyo1
at press conference

Moved: Winnebago Co
settles suit for $15.5mil over 09-18-2009 12:08 PM
Vigilance - - by Vigilance
103mph no-siren deadly
wreck by deputy IL

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Chicago cop allegedly 09-16-2009 06:21 PM


Navigatr1 0 4 by Navigatr1
attacked CTA bus driver

Moved: Firefighter Stephen


D Porter charged with 09-06-2009 10:44 AM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
criminal sexual conduct (IL,
MI)

Chicago IL cop Jon Burge


sued by man Burge KNEW 09-03-2009 06:59 PM
Vigilance 0 8 by Vigilance
was innocent, spent 26 yrs.
in prison

2 Rockford IL cops
investigated by state police 08-31-2009 12:05 AM
Vigilance 0 7 by Vigilance
witnesses claim they
executed man

Harvey IL police deputy & an


08-30-2009 01:27 AM
Illinois Police Reserve cop Vigilance 0 4 by Vigilance
arrested in FBI drug sting

Ex-Chicago cop Michael


08-21-2009 10:59 PM
Ciancio gets 2 years in tow- MGMAN 2 16 by Navigatr1
truck extortion scheme (IL)

Moved: Riverdale Police Kill


08-21-2009 07:05 PM
Man For Not Showing Hands Kick4426 - - by Kick4426
(IL)

Chicago cop brandishes gun


08-19-2009 01:06 AM
at child crying on ride, does Vigilance 0 11 by Vigilance
not get fired, sues Chief

Man claiming cops punched,


kicked, bit, & tasered him, 08-19-2009 01:01 AM
Vigilance 0 7 by Vigilance
but never charged him sues
cop

New Policy Allows Police To 07-29-2009 10:44 PM


Vigilance 1 18 by Night Raven
Shoot At Fleeing Cars

Sheriff's Deputies accused


07-23-2009 02:39 PM
of Taser rampage (Jefferson GC505 13 83 by liberranter
Co)

Moved: Springfield police


07-08-2009 10:41 AM
officer Kevin Barrington Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
arrested for Incest, Rape (IL)

Is Chicago Covering Up
07-07-2009 07:30 PM
Independence Eve Gang GC505 0 12 by GC505
Shooting?

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Williamson Co. deputy


07-04-2009 11:45 AM
Shaunn B. Curry convicted in GC505 17 118 by Night Raven
DUI crash (IL)

Even cops losing their jobs in 06-27-2009 03:57 PM


Vigilance 0 5 by Vigilance
recession

Moved: Chicago Cop &


Professional Scumbag 06-27-2009 01:51 PM
Vigilance - - by Vigilance
Richard Bolling, 39 indicted
in fatal hit & run IL

Chicago's "Officer of the


Year" Carl Sain Charged 06-24-2009 04:48 PM
Vigilance 0 9 by Vigilance
beating schiitt out of police
chief

Cop Anthony Abbate Guity


of Beating Down Female 06-24-2009 12:34 AM
Rylan 2.0 19 138 by MGMAN
Bartender, Video Included
(Chicago)

Chicago Officer William J


06-22-2009 11:07 AM
Cozzi Gets Prison by Feds for Rylan 2.0 15 44 by Navigatr1
Beating man in wheelchair

Moved: Chicago cop William


06-22-2009 03:29 AM
Greenwood charged with Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
child sex assault (IL)

So. IL Police Chief


Mumbower beat up by 06-19-2009 10:46 PM
GC505 6 42 by GC505
toddlers, requires "several
weeks" off duty:

Federal Judge Dissolves


06-09-2009 09:56 AM
Spying Limits for Chicago Night Raven 0 9 by Night Raven
Police

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pot (IL)

Former Melrose Park chief, 2 06-02-2009 10:18 AM


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Colo. man jailed for 20 05-28-2009 02:44 PM


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05-17-2009 06:09 PM
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loopholes

Chicago cops to be reviewed 05-13-2009 09:26 PM


Night Raven 1 19 by liberranter
on attitude,

Former cop/mayor sued for


05-13-2009 07:23 PM
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running for Senate:

Illinois Swine Mimic Their


Texas Brethren in Theft of 05-06-2009 03:57 PM
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Cars, Property From
Motorists

Carondale Cop James


05-06-2009 08:06 AM
Gaddis arrested in Bank GC505 6 52 by GC505
Robbery:

Deputy US marshal John T


04-29-2009 08:48 AM
Ambrose guilty of leaking Night Raven 1 10 by photoman
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3 Chicago police officers 04-28-2009 05:49 PM


Night Raven 0 7 by Night Raven
acquitted in bar brawl

Church, Kiddieland among


04-15-2009 05:45 PM
institutions 'strong-armed' Night Raven 2 19 by liberranter
by police chief

Moved: Orient IL cop


04-10-2009 10:56 PM
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to head:

Car crashes into Franklin 04-10-2009 10:37 PM


GC505 3 12 by GC505
County Courthouse:

Teen viciously beaten by


04-10-2009 03:59 PM
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Jail:

Driver in fatal crash is 04-10-2009 03:04 PM


MGMAN 0 15 by MGMAN
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CPD Cop Richard Fiorito sued


04-03-2009 02:34 PM
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harassment, force:

Peoria Officers Arrested After 03-20-2009 04:01 AM


TheJackel 2 22 by liberranter
Videotaped Beating

Victim of alleged police 03-17-2009 05:01 PM


CC Rider 2 24 by photoman
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CC Rider 2 20 by CC Rider
BLATANT FALSEHOOD

Police report: Skoien with 03-12-2009 02:30 PM


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Man arrested in beating of 03-10-2009 09:40 AM


CC Rider 3 25 by Night Raven
Chicago cop

Write To Our Senators and 03-09-2009 08:11 PM


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Congress Persons

Cop runs over, kills mother- 02-19-2009 03:45 PM


GC505 3 34 by GC505
in-law, 87:

The rush to clear police in 01-28-2009 02:48 PM


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Elgin, IL officials reject cop


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DUI crackdowns could be 10-20-2008 12:41 PM


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Detroit police crime lab shut 09-26-2008 01:10 AM


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Union Co. States Attorney 09-20-2008 02:42 AM


GC505 0 11 by GC505
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S.IL Asst. Fire Chief on 09-20-2008 02:28 AM


GC505 0 9 by GC505
Federal child porn charges

Chicago cops say they are 09-18-2008 06:25 PM


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Kilpatrick admits lying


09-04-2008 05:37 PM
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08-21-2008 10:41 AM
Keunte T. Mallett charged Vigilance 0 6 by Vigilance
with DUI

Jumper (Hero) Lands on


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Former Westfield Police Lt.


08-19-2008 12:06 PM
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bribery charge

Cops Crash Into Each Other, 08-12-2008 09:41 PM


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Demolish Two New Squads

Chicago cop Gerald


Callahan accused of 08-12-2008 09:08 PM
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``beer goggles''

Moved: Former Wonder Lake


firefighter Mark S Nowosatko 08-10-2008 03:41 PM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
to prison in teen sex abuse
case (IL)

Chicago cop Barbara Nevers


08-08-2008 09:12 PM
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Ortega fired for having sex 08-08-2008 07:58 PM
huckabuck001 - - by Night Raven
with rookie's wife in station
(IL)

Moved: Horrendous
conditions found at nation's 08-03-2008 10:00 PM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
biggest jail (Cook County,
IL)

Moved: Fed. Cop Richard


Dean Nutter charged with 08-01-2008 12:03 AM
GC505 - - by GC505
sexually assaulting juvenile
relative (IL)

Moved: Deputy Mike Walker


07-31-2008 10:39 PM
gets 60 days jail for kiddie GC505 - - by GC505
sex: (IL, KY)

Moved: Officer Scott


McMurray charged with 07-29-2008 07:04 PM
GC505 - - by GC505
sexual misconduct (Franklin
County)

Stanford to continue to go
07-27-2008 05:52 AM
on without a police MGMAN 1 19 by liberranter
department

Pastor Daryl Bujak, A


Former Cop, Charged w/ 07-10-2008 12:04 PM
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Beating 13 yr Old Girl (IL) (
1 2 3 ... Last page )

Moved: E.C. cop Xavier


07-08-2008 07:35 AM
Herrera charged with Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
cocaine buying (IL)

Moved: Child molester cop


Daniel Rappe; guilty of 07-03-2008 11:48 AM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
failing to register as sex
offender (IL)

Ex-Oak Lawn cop Steven


Harrison pleads not guilty to 06-27-2008 11:22 AM
Navigatr1 1 14 by Navigatr1
extorting money in traffic
stops

Moved: Former Oak Lawn


06-27-2008 11:20 AM
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drug charges (IL)

Sheriff investigates deputy 06-22-2008 10:42 AM


Navigatr1 0 5 by Navigatr1
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Moved: Correctional officer


06-22-2008 10:38 AM
Jeffrey M Stocke returns to Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
position (IL)

Tazewell, inmate settle 06-22-2008 10:35 AM


Navigatr1 1 9 by Navigatr1
abuse lawsuit for $440,000

Moved: Former cop & rapist


06-20-2008 11:10 AM
Troy Hetz faces domestic Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
battery charges (IL)

Crestwood police chief Tim 06-20-2008 10:30 AM


Navigatr1 0 6 by Navigatr1
Sulikowski expected to quit

Complaint of police brutality 06-20-2008 10:28 AM


Navigatr1 0 11 by Navigatr1
remains open

New ESL cop has a warrant


06-19-2008 09:15 AM
— for his own arrest; used Navigatr1 1 14 by Navigatr1
fake name

Trial in $6 million brutality


06-18-2008 10:34 AM
claim delayed; Michael Navigatr1 0 6 by Navigatr1
Harrison tasered genitals

Chicago Woman Wins $7.9


06-14-2008 08:06 PM
Million for False Arrest; Navigatr1 4 34 by liberranter
Rescued Officer Kelly Brogan

Moved: Gurnee 'top cop' Jay


06-07-2008 11:49 AM
Simon charged in child sex Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
cases (IL)

Cicero firefighter George


06-06-2008 09:39 AM
Gonzalez faces dismissal on Navigatr1 0 2 by Navigatr1
drug charge

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Judge blasts state police


06-06-2008 05:57 AM
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Grillo, Wood Dale man 06-06-2008 05:36 AM
Navigatr1 8 14 by Navigatr1
charged in insurance
scam; more cops involve

Lawsuits follow indicted


06-06-2008 04:59 AM
Forest Park cop Mike Navigatr1 9 30 by Navigatr1
Murphy; pleads guilty

Moved: Feds indict Grant


Park Police Chief Scott 06-05-2008 04:20 PM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Fitts In Prostitution Sting
(IL)

Officer Jesse Goldsmith


06-05-2008 08:55 AM
who ticketed Judge Hall Navigatr1 2 19 by Navigatr1
dies

Moved: Indicted Chicago


06-01-2008 09:18 AM
cop Keith Herrera shines Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
light on corruption (IL)

Chicago cop injured by


06-01-2008 09:00 AM
police bullet intended for Navigatr1 0 7 by Navigatr1
'charging pit bull'

Moved: COURT WATCH --


Prison officer Jeffery A 05-31-2008 03:07 PM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Yusko admits to stealing
underwear (IL)

Former Maywood Police


05-30-2008 11:19 AM
Officer Arian Wade Sues Navigatr1 0 5 by Navigatr1
Department

Witnesses: Police Planted 05-30-2008 11:15 AM


Navigatr1 1 13 by Navigatr1
Gun After Shooting Teen

Cops Made Man Drop And 05-29-2008 12:19 PM


Navigatr1 0 8 by Navigatr1
Do 50, Suit Claims

Ruling for former cop


05-22-2008 07:43 AM
Michale Callahan rejected Navigatr1 1 6 by Navigatr1
on appeal

Off-duty cop Carie Hooker 05-21-2008 07:33 PM


Navigatr1 0 4 by Navigatr1
accused of shoplifting

Will County Executive


05-20-2008 01:24 PM
Larry Walsh pleads guilty Navigatr1 1 4 by Navigatr1
to DUI

Moved: Man dies in fall 05-19-2008 10:48 AM


Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
from police van (IL)

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Sparked $2 Million Lawsuit 05-18-2008 08:16 PM
Navigatr1 63 531 by randyvettes
Fired (Oak Brook) ( 1 2
3 ... Last page )

Cahokia Police Dept. sued


by man alleging civil rights 05-16-2008 12:22 PM
Navigatr1 0 6 by Navigatr1
violation; Travis
Montgomery

Oak Brook cops Martin


Zelisko, Donald Malec 05-11-2008 05:17 PM
Navigatr1 2 11 by Navigatr1
settle harassment lawsuit
against village

Moved: Cicero police


commander Wesley 05-11-2008 02:23 PM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Scott's drug charges may
be dropped; guilty (IL)

Chicago John Haleas,


Michael Bernichio and 05-11-2008 02:17 PM
Navigatr1 1 6 by Navigatr1
Daniel Murphy charged;
false DUI info

Moved: Ex-trooper William


05-10-2008 12:15 AM
Heintz Sr sentenced for Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
child sex abuse (IL)

Moved: Witness says


cousin not warned before 05-07-2008 09:48 AM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
police started shooting
(IL)

Moved: Police Chief Don


05-07-2008 09:01 AM
Reynolds on unpaid leave GC505 - - by Navigatr1
after DUI (IL)

Moved: Feds seek cash


that was allegedly dug up; 05-02-2008 05:36 PM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
guard Paul D Steinacher
(IL)

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Moved: Stateville guard


Lernard Grigsby shot by 04-30-2008 09:27 AM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Illinois State Police dies
(IL)

Honored DUI cop John


Haleas charged; 3 officers 04-30-2008 09:22 AM
Navigatr1 3 16 by Navigatr1
accused of lying about
arrests

Daley: Chicago police to 04-27-2008 10:35 AM


Navigatr1 0 5 by Navigatr1
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Chicago Fights Back


04-27-2008 08:24 AM
Against The Gangs With Navigatr1 2 9 by Navigatr1
SWAT

Moved: Washington Park


Police Chief Discusses 04-26-2008 08:11 AM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Officer Juan McCoy's Child
Sex Arrest (IL)

Moved: Cocaine charges


net prison term for ex- 04-19-2008 09:35 AM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Streator police officer
Michael L Dunning (IL)

Helicopter landing at
03-26-2008 07:44 AM
Pontiac prison draws ire, Navigatr1 1 16 by GC505
not fire

Moved: Firefighter Dennis


P Goggin Arrested for 03-24-2008 11:15 PM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Attempted Child Sexual
Abuse (IL)

Moved: Deputy mayor


Olgen Williams's son 03-24-2008 09:42 AM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Olgen M Williams cited in
solicitation (IN)

Moved: Niles community


service officer Robert M 03-22-2008 09:11 AM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Sroka suspended after
arrest (IL)

Jody Weis vows zero-


03-21-2008 02:42 PM
tolerance for police Navigatr1 5 31 by AVENGER
infractions

Cook County
commissioner Tony
03-21-2008 09:50 AM
Peraica's son Marko Navigatr1 0 4 by Navigatr1
Peraica sentenced in DUI
(IL)

Moved: Carlock estate


03-21-2008 09:37 AM
files suit over treatment in Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Sangamon County jail (IL)

City man sues, says he


03-20-2008 08:55 AM
was beaten by inmates; Navigatr1 0 3 by Navigatr1
Sangamon County jail

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Moved: Man dies after


03-20-2008 08:40 AM
Chicago cops use Taser on Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
him (IL)

Residents charge 03-19-2008 09:13 PM


Navigatr1 1 7 by Navigatr1
Waukegan police abuse

Moved: Ex-Streator police


03-12-2008 10:24 AM
officer Michael Dunning Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
faces more charges (IL)

Bloomington considering
03-10-2008 09:09 AM
new contract for patrol Navigatr1 0 2 by Navigatr1
officer pay

5 guilty in Outfit trial; 03-08-2008 10:51 PM


Navigatr1 2 14 by Navigatr1
Anthony "Twan" Doyle

Three Cicero Cops


Indicted For Beatings; 03-08-2008 10:48 PM
chitownbrian 8 225 by Navigatr1
William Peslak pleads
guilty

Chicago cop David Hayes


03-08-2008 08:14 PM
who committed felony in Navigatr1 1 5 by Navigatr1
'95 is fired (IL)

Moved: Chicago Cop


Richard Schmidt Arrested 03-04-2008 09:08 AM
Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
For Drunken Altercation
With Suburban Police IL

Ex-Cop Dean R Dalaly 03-03-2008 01:59 AM


chitownbrian 1 15 by Navigatr1
Arrested In Diamond Heist

Woman, 30, Tasered 02-27-2008 08:15 AM


Navigatr1 1 10 by Navigatr1
eight times by Zion cops

Richmond fires chief


02-22-2008 05:47 PM
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Lake Co. cop Robert Porras


02-10-2008 08:24 AM
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charges

Moved: Suit forces Chicago


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Officers Ronald Pilati and


02-05-2008 12:35 PM
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Ex- deputy Robert


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Chicago police torture


02-01-2008 12:52 PM
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01-29-2008 09:33 AM
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Trial of former Lockport


01-25-2008 08:29 AM
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01-19-2008 07:17 PM
hinge on secret kept for 26 Navigatr1 0 9 by Navigatr1
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Jury sides with man accused


01-16-2008 09:55 AM
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Cop Chris Darr On


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Susan Deuchler who 01-02-2008 11:16 AM
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Todd Exline

Moved: Off-Duty Cop May


12-26-2007 07:18 AM
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12-25-2007 06:51 AM
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12-25-2007 06:49 AM
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Navigatr1 0 5 by Navigatr1
attorney dispute request

Cop Richard S. Teresi fired


12-21-2007 09:00 AM
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locker

$15.5 Million Judgement


Against Cops And 12-21-2007 01:53 AM
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Navigatr1 0 6 by Navigatr1
Warrenville police

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Navigatr1 0 7 by Navigatr1
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public police news

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Prosecutors don't want


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Imprisoned Chicago cop


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Navigatr1 2 9 by Navigatr1
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12-08-2007 11:08 AM
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Report: Off-duty Chicago


12-07-2007 04:44 AM
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1/2 Chicago cops in


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Police complaints against


12-04-2007 10:54 PM
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Police chief breaks water


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Police, Frank Ponce, John 12-02-2007 07:39 AM
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Keene, Soto sued for More
Than $5.5 million (IL)

Moved: Chief: Cop Jason


12-01-2007 04:44 PM
Bailey viewed porn at Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
work (IL)

Lawsuit against Boone


12-01-2007 04:24 PM
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will continue in January

Williamson Co. Sheriff


11-30-2007 07:09 AM
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beatings, tazerings

Daley chooses shady FBI


11-30-2007 03:15 AM
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Supt.

Family of police shooting


11-30-2007 02:46 AM
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11-29-2007 08:15 AM
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Former Cop Edward Leak


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11-16-2007 12:15 PM
Jeffrey Rush fired in prison Navigatr1 - - by GC505
sex scandal (IL)

Change in police procedures 11-13-2007 09:40 AM


Navigatr1 1 14 by GC505
must nab rogue cops

Crooked cop must be 10-28-2007 01:53 PM


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$4m verdict for man raped


10-23-2007 03:47 PM
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Lawsuit Accuses Cop


09-30-2007 08:58 AM
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Chicago Lesbians

Ex-officer Steven Kissel


09-30-2007 08:54 AM
says he was fired in Navigatr1 0 4 by Navigatr1
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McHenry County States Atty


09-27-2007 09:29 PM
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Cookie Jar

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Deputy Donald R Anderson 09-27-2007 08:36 PM
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Slapped on Wrist For DUI In
Squad Car (IL)

ESL police chief's son


09-27-2007 10:43 AM
Michael Baxton Jr accused Navigatr1 0 4 by Navigatr1
of unauthorized use of car

Moved: Trial for former


09-27-2007 10:15 AM
police officer David L. Lewis Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
set to begin Oct. 2 (IL)

Harvey cops get cold-case 09-27-2007 09:12 AM


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warning

False Retaliatory Arrests in 09-25-2007 04:50 PM


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March 2006

Northlake police officer


09-24-2007 09:51 AM
William Scanlan suspended Navigatr1 0 2 by Navigatr1
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Moved: Bloomington police


09-22-2007 03:07 PM
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Exonerated Hanover Park 09-21-2007 11:55 AM


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Grantfork Village board


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'Exemplary' cop Paul


09-16-2007 12:21 PM
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School's police liaison Lee R.


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sheriff

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Chicago Tribune
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Former bar owner files


07-30-2007 09:07 AM
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Circuit Clerk Deputy


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Witness details bribes to


07-26-2007 02:57 AM
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Officer Robert Gallegos


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Ex-Melrose Park police chief


07-20-2007 09:31 AM
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Officers Paul Carpenter &


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Lawsuit: Police beat man 07-19-2007 10:08 PM


ZoeJane 0 4 by ZoeJane
into false confession

Police took 26 minutes to


07-19-2007 08:55 PM
respond to first 911 call on ZoeJane 1 9 by ZoeJane
beating

Detective's firing record, 07-15-2007 10:45 AM


ZoeJane 0 7 by ZoeJane
probe requested by judge

Monticello police officer


07-13-2007 12:39 PM
David Ballard suspended ZoeJane 0 6 by ZoeJane
after gun incident

Officers Paul Powers and


07-12-2007 09:41 PM
Greg Barnes plead 'not ZoeJane 4 32 by ZoeJane
guilty' in bar beating

Officer Nanette Scott Gets 2- 07-11-2007 07:35 PM


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Day Suspension (Dwight)

County Settles for $3.2M


07-11-2007 03:28 PM
Over Involuntary STD Jail Navigatr1 0 4 by Navigatr1
Testing

Officer Sandra Trussen


07-11-2007 11:01 AM
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Face; Guilty (Atkinson)

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ZoeJane 0 8 by ZoeJane
foiled 911 rescue

A special prosecutor will


07-07-2007 06:25 PM
look at Knox County ZoeJane 1 7 by ZoeJane
scandals

IL Fire Marshall David


07-06-2007 07:51 PM
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DUI in state vehicle

Illinois admits to seizing 06-27-2007 12:29 PM


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cars to get cash

Ex-Cicero cop James 06-27-2007 03:29 AM


ZoeJane 0 7 by ZoeJane
DiSantis guilty in beating
06-24-2007 04:21 PM
'This is my daddy' ZoeJane 0 10 by ZoeJane

Glendale Heights deputy


06-21-2007 03:03 PM
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guilty to attempted forgery

Cook County morgue "loses" 06-19-2007 08:08 PM


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06-19-2007 11:28 AM
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teenage boy

Moved: Former officer


06-19-2007 10:59 AM
pleads guilty to reckless Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
homicide (IL)

Court upholds $775,000


06-18-2007 11:58 AM
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Rylan 2.0 0 5 by Rylan 2.0
Car Crashes (Chicago)

Deputy Jeff Bass Faces


06-01-2007 10:36 AM
Termination For Misconduct Rylan 2.0 0 6 by Rylan 2.0
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05-21-2007 08:49 PM
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Drunk (IL)

Moved: Former inmate claims 05-21-2007 10:39 AM


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Witnesses Claim Cop Robert


05-08-2007 04:19 PM
Smith Used Excessive Force Rylan 2.0 3 26 by GC505
On 11-Year-Old (Chicago)

Officer Arrested In Debit Card 05-04-2007 12:04 PM


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Scheme (Chicago)

Moved: Jefferson Co. IL


05-03-2007 01:34 AM
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minors

"Thought crime" lands


05-01-2007 03:23 AM
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essay:

Female Cop Catherine


Doubek Under Investigation 04-28-2007 05:05 AM
Rylan 2.0 1 10 by GC505
For Role In Man's Beating
(Chicago)

Officials Say Deputy Shareese


04-28-2007 02:57 AM
Holston Lied To FBI (Cook Rylan 2.0 0 5 by Rylan 2.0
County)

Moved: Cop accused of pulling


04-09-2007 09:38 AM
out hair of boyfriend's Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
daughter

Officer Sandra Valle


04-02-2007 06:23 PM
Suspended For Misconduct Rylan 2.0 2 17 by liberranter
(Woodstock)

Six off-duty Chicago cops 03-26-2007 10:07 AM


Navigatr1 0 12 by Navigatr1
accused in bar attack

Veteran Marshall Dunnigan Put


03-14-2007 03:45 AM
On Leave For Stealing Slot Rylan 2.0 1 6 by Rylan 2.0
Machine Winnings (Peoria)

Moved: Harvey Cop Found


02-22-2007 03:38 PM
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Wreck

Speeding Officer Don Gamble


02-22-2007 02:43 PM
Will Not Be Charged For Crash Rylan 2.0 0 5 by Rylan 2.0
(Bloomington)

Citizen Snaps Shot Of Officer


02-08-2007 06:11 PM
In Handicapped Spot; Officer Rylan 2.0 0 3 by Rylan 2.0
Cited (New Lenox)

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After Cat Slaying (Channahon)

Handi-Cop Parking: Chicago


01-19-2007 08:54 AM
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Handicapped Spots

Officer Accidentally Shocks 01-18-2007 08:15 PM


Rylan 2.0 1 11 by liberranter
Fellow Officer At Roll Call

Chicago Corrections Officer's


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Kills Self

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Cops Collect $50,000

Chicago Police Pinned Murders 01-11-2007 04:04 PM


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On Mentally Challenged
01-10-2007 05:33 PM
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Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
convicted of OWI

Judge Tosses $6.5M Jury


12-31-2006 11:47 AM
Award to Ex-Cop Steven Navigatr1 0 27 by Navigatr1
Manning

Police officer Larry Schroeder


12-27-2006 10:41 AM
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tickets

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12-21-2006 04:09 PM
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Crackdown

Moved: Porn just start of cop 12-19-2006 11:02 AM


Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
controversy

Moved: Ex-suburban official


12-15-2006 10:01 PM
convicted of raping 14-year- Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
old intern

Report: Officials aren't doing 12-15-2006 02:01 PM


Navigatr1 0 47 by Navigatr1
enough to stop corruption

Moved: El Paso officer charged


12-15-2006 01:57 PM
with DUI can't drive for 6 Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
months

Moved: Police: Judge Refused


12-12-2006 10:57 AM
Post-Wreck DUI Test While Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Another Judge Ditched Beer

Would-be prankster shot by


12-06-2006 07:46 PM
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Officer James Chevas Accused


11-23-2006 04:52 AM
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Arrested Man
11-21-2006 01:35 AM
Name is cleared, years are lost Navigatr1 1 88 by liberranter

Moved: Deputy mum in court 11-07-2006 09:50 AM


Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
on fatal crash

Moved: Park City cop resigns 11-03-2006 11:26 AM


Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
after alleged strip tease

Ex-Huntley cop Lawrence 10-30-2006 02:42 AM


Navigatr1 0 114 by Navigatr1
Preston guilty in dog shooting

Ex-sheriff's deputy Ryan 10-30-2006 02:08 AM


Navigatr1 0 86 by Navigatr1
Garrett reaches plea deal

Lawsuit adds to sheriff's 10-30-2006 01:45 AM


Navigatr1 0 80 by Navigatr1
troubles

Moved: Cop in hot-tub frolic


10-30-2006 01:42 AM
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neighbors

Officer Scott Crawford, 10-24-2006 07:19 PM


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Moved: Documents: Police 10-16-2006 12:18 PM


Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
voiced concerns over Merica

Moved: Marion Co. deputy 10-14-2006 10:54 AM


Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
arrested for child solicitation

Officer Promoted Despite 10-14-2006 05:33 AM


Navigatr1 1 101 by 9991
Incriminating Video

Commissioner wants to 10-08-2006 07:34 PM


Navigatr1 2 108 by Mack
disband hospital police force

Chicago swine arrested for hit


09-27-2006 04:25 AM
and run, home invasion, GC505 1 106 by GC505
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09-24-2006 12:06 PM
Will County strip search Navigatr1 0 88 by Navigatr1
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Police dog attacks cop, dog 09-10-2006 01:50 PM


GC505 2 228 by GC505
killed.

Suit: Cops Beat Two Men, 09-08-2006 10:03 AM


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Moved: Pekin officer fired 09-03-2006 11:07 AM


Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
for conduct

Cops' worthlessness forces 09-02-2006 05:25 PM


GC505 0 78 by GC505
victim to crack theft case:

Moved: Peoria police officer


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guilty (IL)

Elgin commission gives cop 09-02-2006 10:23 AM


Navigatr1 0 74 by Navigatr1
Claudia Murphy the boot

Honored cop among 8 tied 08-31-2006 10:39 AM


Navigatr1 0 81 by Navigatr1
to thefts

Former police officer Mani 08-28-2006 12:36 AM


Navigatr1 0 66 by Navigatr1
Adams pleads guilty to theft

Moved: Chicago Cop Guilty:


08-23-2006 11:01 AM
Drug Conspiracy, other GC505 - - by Navigatr1
charges.

Moved: Steve Chapman:


08-22-2006 01:31 AM
Wrongly jailed, unfairly Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
repaid

Commander John Matthews


08-17-2006 04:08 PM
accused of hindering police Navigatr1 0 81 by Navigatr1
after son's weapon arrest

Kellogg gets lawyer for 08-15-2006 10:06 AM


Navigatr1 0 65 by Navigatr1
possible charges

Moved: City/PD won't


08-09-2006 11:06 PM
compensate innocent man GC505 - - by GC505
imprisoned for 27 years:

Moved: Handegan admitted


08-07-2006 09:54 PM
having sex with convicted Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
felon
08-07-2006 06:20 PM
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Moved: Green Oaks' mayor


08-07-2006 01:55 AM
faces child pornography Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
charge

Moved: Chicao cops who


08-03-2006 04:20 PM
tortured suspects won't be GC505 - - by Mack
charged:

Cop shoots, kills playful


07-28-2006 02:12 AM
family dog in front of GC505 2 114 by xtratabasco
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New Chicago Law: Dogs 07-26-2006 11:50 AM


GC505 2 67 by liberranter
must be microchipped.

Chicago Aldermen vote


07-26-2006 11:49 AM
themselves pay raises to GC505 2 54 by liberranter
$100,872.00 in four years:

Moved: Paramilitary gang


07-25-2006 06:40 PM
operates in Harvey with Mack - - by GC505
blessing of Mayor Kellogg

Moved: Harvey: $2.4 million 07-25-2006 06:18 PM


GC505 - - by GC505
"lost" under Mayor Kellogg

Moved: Harvey Mayor


07-25-2006 06:07 PM
suspect in gun evidence GC505 - - by GC505
theft:

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07-25-2006 05:59 PM
media who report his crimes GC505 - - by GC505
"TERRORISTS":

Moved: Harvey Police: Theft, 07-25-2006 05:56 PM


GC505 - - by GC505
torture, beatings, etc:

Moved: Police prove


07-25-2006 05:43 PM
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attackers herself:
07-25-2006 03:29 PM
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Moved: Harvey Mayor 07-25-2006 03:01 PM


GC505 - - by GC505
Kellogg's "Personal Guard"

Moved: Harvey police defend


07-25-2006 02:51 PM
their beating of children with GC505 - - by GC505
plywood:

Moved: Harvey Mayor Kellogg 07-25-2006 02:46 PM


GC505 - - by GC505
knows... Nothing.

Moved: Harvey cops incite


07-25-2006 02:36 PM
onlookers against media GC505 - - by GC505
photographer:

Moved: Harvey Deputy


07-25-2006 02:23 PM
Marshall arrested, fellow cops GC505 - - by GC505
flock to his aid:

Moved: Harvey cop resigns 07-25-2006 02:18 PM


GC505 - - by GC505
amid federal corruption probe:

Moved: Harvey Police keep


07-25-2006 02:15 PM
jobs in spite of checkered GC505 - - by GC505
past, new allegations:

Moved: Media sues City of 07-25-2006 02:10 PM


GC505 - - by GC505
Harvey for violating FOIA law:

Moved: Drunken Harvey police 07-25-2006 02:06 PM


GC505 - - by GC505
officer attacks man:

Moved: Harvey Mayor illegally


07-25-2006 02:01 PM
carries firearm, conducts GC505 - - by GC505
traffic stops:

Moved: Harvey mayor rejects 07-25-2006 01:26 PM


GC505 - - by GC505
call for police backup

Moved: Harvey Police corporal


07-25-2006 01:19 PM
gets 1 yr. probation for GC505 - - by GC505
attacking woman:

South Beloit Officer Melissa 07-21-2006 03:52 AM


Rylan 0 35 by Rylan
Kerno Resigns

Bloomington Police Officer Jeff


07-14-2006 03:37 PM
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gang ties

Deputy Michael Rodgers


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04-07-2006 08:30 PM
deputy busted with A. Shemonia - - by A. Shemonia
cocaine... $500 bail

Wayne County sheriff


03-17-2006 09:26 PM
Everett "Sonny" McCulley Navigatr1 3 56 by A. Shemonia
strikes plea agreement

Police chief Michael


03-17-2006 10:55 AM
Walters trial postponed Navigatr1 0 23 by Navigatr1
again

State police called to 03-10-2006 12:42 AM


Navigatr1 0 20 by Navigatr1
investigate MPD

Chicago Paying Millions To 03-02-2006 03:14 PM


Navigatr1 1 43 by A. Shemonia
Settle Police Cases

For Bartonville police, the 02-28-2006 09:48 PM


Navigatr1 0 22 by Navigatr1
survey says

Criminal charges filed


02-27-2006 12:35 PM
against sheriff's deputy Navigatr1 0 33 by Navigatr1
Ryan Garrett
02-20-2006 04:24 PM
Man's death still a mystery Navigatr1 0 40 by Navigatr1

All 6 Inmates Who 02-17-2006 12:42 PM


Navigatr1 4 34 by Navigatr1
Escaped Ill. Jail Caught

Inmate Escapes From 02-12-2006 11:57 AM


Navigatr1 0 26 by Navigatr1
County Jail

Officer Joseph Misuraca


02-12-2006 11:55 AM
Loses Job Over Fake Navigatr1 0 39 by Navigatr1
Ticket

Police officer Todd Murr


02-04-2006 11:25 AM
arrested for battery of Navigatr1 0 37 by Navigatr1
woman

Ex-jail officer Charles F


01-03-2006 10:28 AM
Ealey charged with Navigatr1 0 35 by Navigatr1
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Man Bites Police Officer


12-20-2005 05:15 PM
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sexual assault of 16-year-
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12-15-2005 09:47 AM
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credit card theft case

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12-11-2005 10:27 AM
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records for own PI cases

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deal in rape case

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11-11-2005 01:01 AM
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wrongdoing

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Casper admits to crash in Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
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Fatal Hit And Run

Officer Michael Beaucaire


09-20-2005 12:33 AM
charged after hitting Navigatr1 0 32 by Navigatr1
mailboxes, hydrant (IL)

Moved: Officer Steven M


09-16-2005 12:41 AM
Lelli charged in battery Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
case (IL)

Joliet woman's sex toy suit 09-14-2005 01:04 PM


Navigatr1 0 47 by Navigatr1
goes to trial

Hearing for Cal City cop


09-08-2005 03:04 AM
Louis Picicco closed to Navigatr1 0 54 by Navigatr1
public

Moved: Police Officers


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Charged With Stealing Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
From Drug Dealers

Moved: Officer Implicated 09-01-2005 12:51 PM


Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
In Alleged Drug Ring

yet another chicago horror 08-23-2005 04:09 AM


melt 1 94 by shirley1958
story! when will it end!!

State Police Find Lab


08-20-2005 12:44 AM
Botched DNA Tests In Navigatr1 0 31 by Navigatr1
Sexual Assaults

Moved: Officer Accused Of


08-20-2005 12:40 AM
Demanding Females 'Flash Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Him'

Moved: Off-Duty Cop


07-09-2005 12:08 AM
Posts Bond In Reckless Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Homicide Case

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Trial

Moved: Badge taken away


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of DUI in deadly crash (IL)

Former Alderman Accuses 07-08-2005 11:48 PM


Navigatr1 0 50 by Navigatr1
Police Of Brutality

Moved: Another Pervert IL 07-04-2005 06:35 PM


chitownbrian - - by chitownbrian
Cop Caught

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07-03-2005 12:03 PM
arm -- now he's a sex Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
offender

Moved: State Trooper


06-27-2005 12:09 PM
Allegedly Orders Couple Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
To Strip

Moved: Cop steals crack


evidence, smokes it, gets 06-23-2005 04:34 PM
A. Shemonia - - by A. Shemonia
probation: Blames the job
stress.

Illinois State Trooper 06-18-2005 01:00 PM


chitownbrian 7 82 by chitownbrian
Arrested

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Navigatr1 6 82 by Navigatr1
in court

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Mad Abe 4 215 by Mad Abe
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Coverup of jail probe alleged Navigatr1 0 27 by Navigatr1

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Sexual Abuse Charges

Federal agents arrest East


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St. Louis police officer Pierre Navigatr1 0 18 by Navigatr1
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congressman to move out of Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
house

Jury finds FBI railroaded ex- 01-25-2005 01:23 PM


corruptiontampa 0 14 by corruptiontampa
cop Steve Manning

Chicago Police Officer


12-07-2004 02:00 PM
Neftalie Gonzalez Arrested Navigatr1 1 13 by Navigatr1
For Counterfeiting CDs

Video Allegedly Shows


12-01-2004 02:42 AM
Firefighter, Dispatcher Navigatr1 0 7 by Navigatr1
Partying

Moved: Dixmoor Officer


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Pleads Not Guilty In Sex Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Abuse Case
11-19-2004 10:20 PM
'The city stole my car' duncan 2 34 by Toddie

Moved: Ex-Ryan Harris 11-17-2004 10:52 AM


Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
suspect to get $2 mil.

Moved: Former police officer


11-15-2004 11:14 AM
John L Smith convicted in Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
cocaine trial (IL)

Moved: Police Sergeant


11-11-2004 01:47 PM
Charged With Molesting Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Female Driver

Moved: Chicago Policeman 11-11-2004 01:35 PM


Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Accused Of Sexual Assault

Ludlow police chief Rodney


11-05-2004 03:01 AM
Webb pleads guilty to Navigatr1 0 9 by Navigatr1
criminal charge

Unit 5: Police Accused Of


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Moved: Illinois Customs


10-20-2004 01:20 AM
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Officer William Gibson 10-13-2004 10:47 AM


Navigatr1 1 24 by bad1
indicted in arrest mishap

Moved: Chicago Cop 10-12-2004 01:13 AM


Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Accused Of Sexual Abuse

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10-12-2004 01:05 AM
Charged With Drunken Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Driving In Fatal Accident

Chicago Officer Jacqueline


Williams Forged Documents 10-12-2004 01:02 AM
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Pretending To Be On Active
Duty

Elderly Man Dies After 10-12-2004 12:51 AM


Navigatr1 0 12 by Navigatr1
Alleged Police Beating

Moved: Lawsuit Claims 10-07-2004 02:37 AM


Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Police Chase Caused Fatality

Cop Joseph W Lullo Jr


10-02-2004 01:08 AM
accused of attack at Sox Navigatr1 0 16 by Navigatr1
Park

Moved: U.S. Investigating 09-30-2004 02:54 PM


Navigatr1 - - by Navigatr1
Illinois Jail Allegations

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Exposure Case

Joliet Police Officer Killed


08-21-2004 01:19 PM
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Crash

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Navigatr1 Illinois' ex-governor charged with corruption


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http://www.tribnet.com/news/crime_s...p-4506695c.html
MIKE ROBINSON; The Associated Press
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: CHICAGO - Former Gov. George Ryan, who gained a worldwide
Posts: 31403
reputation as a critic of the death penalty, was indicted Wednesday
on charges of taking payoffs in a corruption scandal that shadowed
his entire four years in office and cut short his political career.

Prosecutors said the 69-year-old Republican and his family took


cash, gifts, vacations and other favors to steer state business to
friends and associates while he was governor and, before that,
Illinois secretary of state.

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"Basically the state of Illinois was for sale," U.S. Attorney Patrick
Fitzgerald said.

Ryan did not immediately return a call for comment and no one
answered the door at his home in Kankakee. His attorney, Dan
Webb, issued a statement saying he was confident Ryan "will be
exonerated and a jury will find him not guilty of all charges."

Ryan, who served as secretary of state from 1991 to 1999 and


governor from 1999 to last January, has said he knew there was a
culture of corruption in the secretary of state's office but was
unaware of the specifics.

He is the third Illinois governor indicted in the past 40 years.

Outside Illinois, Ryan is best known as an ardent critic of the way


capital punishment is carried out. He declared a moratorium on
executions in Illinois after it was discovered 13 wrongly convicted
men had been sent to death row.

Last January, just before leaving office, he cleared out Illinois'


death row, pardoning four condemned prisoners and commuting the
death sentences of 167 others to life in prison.

The graft scandal was a factor in his 2001 decision not to seek a
second term, and his unpopularity was considered a major reason
GOP candidates were routed statewide in 2002, including the
election of a Democratic governor for the first time since 1972.

(Published 12:01AM, December 18th, 2003)

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Navigatr1 Former Illinois governor pleads innocent to federal charges


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http://www.tribnet.com/24hour/natio...p-7655074c.html
By MAURA KELLY, Associated Press
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: CHICAGO (December 23, 2:49 p.m. PST) - Former Gov. George
Posts: 31403
Ryan pleaded innocent to federal corruption charges Tuesday and
said he would spurn any plea bargain on allegations that he took
payoffs in return for letting associates profit from state contracts
and leases.

Ryan pleaded not guilty to charges of racketeering conspiracy, mail


fraud, tax fraud, filing false tax returns and making false
statements to agents investigating corruption. He answered "I do"
four times when the judge asked if he understood the charges.

"I'm absolutely not guilty of those charges," Ryan told reporters


later. "I will not plea bargain. I'll go to trial and establish my
innocence."

The charges in the 22-count indictment announced last Wednesday


against Ryan and lobbyist Larry Warner could send them to prison
for years. Warner, who allegedly collected at least $3.1 million
through his friendship with Ryan, pleaded innocent Friday.

Ryan, a Republican who served as secretary of state from 1991 to


1999 and governor from 1999 to January, was freed on $4,500 bail.

The indictment is the latest in the government's 5 1/2-year probe of


corruption under Ryan that began as an inquiry into bribes paid for
driver's licenses in the secretary of state's office.

Ryan's attorney, Dan Webb, told reporters that federal prosecutors


were trying to turn the give-and-take of governing into a crime.

"The government has cobbled together a number of unrelated acts,


innocent acts that are nothing more than the fabric of what goes on
in Illinois politics and Illinois government," Webb said. "They are
not crimes."

Ryan has said he knew there was a culture of corruption in the


secretary of state's office but was unaware of the specifics.

Ryan was the 66th person charged in the investigation and the
fourth former Illinois governor to be indicted by a federal grand jury
in as many decades.

The scandal was a factor in his decision not to seek a second term,

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and his unpopularity was considered a major reason GOP


candidates were routed statewide in 2002, including the election of
a Democratic governor for the first time since 1972.

Outside Illinois, Ryan is best known as an ardent critic of the way


capital punishment is administered. He declared a moratorium on
executions in Illinois because of the discovery that 13 wrongfully
convicted men had been sent to death row.

In January, just before leaving office, he cleared out Illinois' death


row, pardoning four condemned prisoners and commuting the death
sentences of 167 others to life in prison.

Former Ill. Gov. George Ryan walks to the federal courthouse on


Tuesday in Chicago

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Navigatr1 Ryan's defense against corruption charges will be politics as usual


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usual
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/24/r...d.ap/index.html
Registered: Jul 2003 Wednesday, December 24, 2003 Posted: 7:47 AM EST (1247 GMT)
Location:
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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- Former Gov. George Ryan's defense
against allegations he took payoffs in return for letting associates
profit from state contracts and leases will show it was politics as
usual and nothing more, his lawyer said.

"The government has cobbled together a number of unrelated acts,


innocent acts that are nothing more than the fabric of what goes on
in Illinois politics and Illinois government. They are not crimes, they
are innocent acts," defense attorney Dan Webb said.

Ryan pleaded innocent Tuesday to charges of racketeering,


conspiracy, mail fraud, tax fraud, filing false tax returns and making
false statements to agents investigating corruption.

"I'm absolutely not guilty of those charges," Ryan said after his
arraignment.

The charges in the 22-count indictment announced last Wednesday


against Ryan and lobbyist Larry Warner could send them to prison
for years. Warner, who allegedly collected at least $3.1 million
through his friendship with Ryan, pleaded innocent Friday.

Ryan, a Republican who served as secretary of state from 1991 to


1999 and governor from 1999 to January, was freed on $4,500 bail.
He is accused of breaking the law while he was secretary of state
and governor.

Ryan was the 66th person charged in the investigation; 59 have


been convicted and none acquitted.

The scandal was a factor in Ryan's decision not to seek a second


term, and his unpopularity was considered a major reason GOP
candidates were routed statewide in 2002, including the election of
a Democratic governor for the first time since 1972.

Prosecutors allege that Ryan and members of his family shared in


$167,000 in graft that included payoffs, free vacations and cash
siphoned out of his campaign fund and camouflaged as expenses.

Webb outlined three themes for the defense:

He said prosecutors did not have witnesses who could testify that
Ryan had taken a bribe; that the jury would be impressed by Ryan's
"courage" in addressing problems in Illinois' death penalty system;
and that Ryan was a man of modest means who makes ends meet
on his pension and Social Security checks, and therefore obviously
had not enriched himself through corruption.

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"He has no assets, no stocks, no bonds. He has a modest house in


Kankakee, Illinois, and that is not the financial picture of a person
who has engaged in the conduct that the government has alleged in
this case," Webb said.

Outside Illinois, Ryan is best known as an ardent critic of the way


capital punishment is administered. He declared a moratorium on
executions in Illinois because of the discovery that 13 wrongfully
convicted men had been sent to death row.

In January, just before leaving office, he cleared out Illinois' death


row, pardoning four condemned prisoners and commuting the death
sentences of 167 others to life in prison.

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Navigatr1 Former governor standing trial


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Ryan faces federal corruption charges
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Monday, September 19, 2005; Posted: 2:32 p.m. EDT (18:32 GMT)
Posts: 31403
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- Although his former campaign
committee, campaign manager and chief of staff have been
found guilty of racketeering, former Gov. George Ryan vows
he'll be acquitted when he goes to court to face 22 charges
stemming from a federal probe.

Federal prosecutors think differently. They have accused the Ryan


administration of doling out big-money state contracts and leases to
political insiders, resulting in charges being brought against 79
people, including many state employees.

Ryan and his co-defendant, lobbyist Larry Warner, are due in court
Monday for jury selection in their trial.

Ryan, who won accolades from capital punishment critics by


clearing the state's death row before he left office in 2003, faces 22
charges of racketeering conspiracy, mail fraud, lying to the FBI and
tax fraud. He has maintained his innocence.

"They haven't got one witness that said they gave me a corrupt
dollar or they paid me off in any fashion with money," the 71-year-
old Republican said in a July interview with Chicago's WGN-TV.

The charges grew out of the federal government's Operation Safe


Road, which initially focused on bribes exchanged for drivers
licenses but over seven years expanded into a full-blown
investigation of political corruption when Ryan was secretary of
state and later governor.

Of the 79 people charged, 73 have been convicted and none


acquitted.

Ryan's former chief of staff, Scott Fawell, who is now serving a 6


1/2-year sentence, is penciled in as the government's leadoff
witness and prosecutors say he could be on the stand for as long as
three weeks.

Ryan was elected secretary of state in 1990, served two four-year


terms and was elected governor in 1998. But he retired after just
one term as the so-called bribes-for-licenses scandal grew and his
support in opinion polls took a swan dive.

"He was basically unelectable by the time he made the decision not
to run," said University of Illinois-Springfield political scientist Kent
Redfield.

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Just before leaving office, Ryan commuted the sentences of all 167
Illinois death row inmates to life and pardoned four men convicted
of murder, saying evidence against them was unconvincing. He had
earlier put a hold on state executions, citing a flawed system that
sent 13 wrongfully convicted men to death row.

Some death penalty opponents now stand by his side.

"My assessment is that the government case relies entirely on


witnesses of extremely dubious credibility whose testimony has
been procured under extreme coercion," said Rob Warden,
executive director of the Center on Wrongful Convictions at
Northwestern University law school.

At the core of the indictment is an allegation that Ryan gave


lobbyist Larry Warner, now his co-defendant, all but free reign to
see that leases and contracts in the secretary of state's office went
to Warner's clients. Millions of dollars were awarded this way,
according to prosecutors.

Warner, in turn, funneled two loans totaling $145,000, one of which


was never paid back, into the foundering business of a Ryan family
member, prosecutors claim. They say that Warner pumped $6,000
more into a Ryan family business and paid more than $3,000 in
Ryan family wedding expenses while furnishing other unspecified
money and gifts to his political benefactor.

Ryan declined to discuss the trial with The Associated Press.

"It's one of those things that's happened. We'll see how it all comes
together," he told the AP in a recent interview.

Copyright 2005 The Associated Press.

George Ryan faces 22 charges, including racketeering


conspiracy, mail fraud and lying to the FBI.

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and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November


13, 1787

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GC Marciano Gov. George Ryan sentenced to 72 months in prison:


Copwatcher Extraordinaire

Former Gov. George Ryan Sentenced To 6 1/2 Years


Governor Was Convicted Of Corruption Last April

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/l..._249141409.html

(CBS) CHICAGO Former Gov. George Ryan was sentenced


Wednesday to 78 months, or 6 1/2 years, in prison on charges
Registered: Jul 2003 of corruption when he was secretary of state.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
Ryan and co-defendant Larry Warner were convicted of
racketeering conspiracy, mail fraud, tax fraud and lying to FBI
agents.

In addition to his prison sentence, Ryan was ordered to pay


$603,048 in restitution. Warner was sentenced to 41 months, or
just over three years, in prison at a sentencing hearing held
shortly after the former governor’s.

Ryan was convicted in April of racketeering conspiracy, mail


fraud, tax fraud and lying to FBI agents.

Another former Illinois governor, Jim Thompson, sat alongside


the former first lady of Illinois Lura Lynn Ryan as George Ryan
told the jury he was proud of his accomplishments, especially
the reform of the criminal justice system.

However, Ryan also apologized for letting down the residents of


Illinois. He noted failures which he felt “regret and personal
shame about.”

"People of this state expected better, and I let them down,"


Ryan said in a statement delivered to the courtroom.

Ryan said it was "the saddest day of his life," and thanked the
attorneys who had given him pro bono legal assistance.

He added, "A long sentence today for a man of my age and my


health is tantamount to a death sentence."

CBS 2's Mike Parker said the look on Ryan's face when the
sentence was announced was one of "absolute and utter
disbelief. He looked as if he had been smashed in the knees
with a shovel."

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Ryan is required to serve a minimum 85 percent of his


sentence. He will report to prison in January 2007.

U.S. District Judge Rebecca R. Pallmeyer declared that the


sentencing gave her no pleasure, but added that the real harm
from public corruption is the damage it causes to the public
trust.

In preparing to hand down her sentence, Pallmeyer also


listened to arguments from federal prosecutors and Ryan's
defense attorneys.

Among other things, prosecutors presented evidence that as


secretary of state and later governor Ryan steered big-money
contracts to Warner and other insiders and used taxpayer
dollars for political campaign purposes.

Evidence showed that Ryan dismantled the inspector general's


department in the secretary of state's office -- possibly to cover
up evidence tying campaign fundraising to the sale of truck
drivers licenses.

The Rev. Scott Willis, whose six children died in a fiery


expressway tragedy later linked to the licenses for bribes
scandal, had asked to speak at Ryan’s sentencing hearing.
Judge Pallmeyer denied the request, but did accept a written
submission. Scott Willis and his wife, Janet, were present at the
hearing.

The prosecution had hoped the Willis deaths would be an


aggravating factor in Ryan's sentencing, but Judge Pallmeyer
said while the deaths were tragic, they cannot be used to
enhance Ryan's sentence for his convictions on racketeering
conspiracy and other charges.

Prosecutors also said Ryan should receive the heavy side of


eight to 10 years in prison because Scott Fawell, the former
governor’s campaign manager and chief of staff, is serving 6
1/2 years in prison, and prosecutors have said anything less for
Ryan would not be fair.

But defense attorneys for Ryan had asked for a lighter sentence
because of the governor's age and health problems, including
Crohn's disease. They also said his work over the years should
be considered, and have been arguing for a shorter sentence.

But CBS 2 Legal Analyst Irv Miller said, “This judge wants to
deter other public servants from doing the same thing, and
that's going to be the main thrust in asking for eight to 10 years
despite his health and age.”

Ryan’s attorneys have asked Judge Pallmeyer to consider


allowing an appeal bond, under which the former governor
could stay out of prison pending an appeal. Miller said the

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appeal bond will not be discussed until a future date.

Ryan's surrender date is Jan. 4, so he will be able to spend the


Christmas holiday with his family. His attorneys asked if he
could serve his sentence at Oxford Federal Prison in Wisconsin,
and the judge said she was amenable to that option.

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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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GC Marciano Ryan Expected To Serve Sentence At Wis. Prison


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Ryan To Surrender On Jan. 4, 2007

http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/loc..._249180941.html

Dorothy Tucker
Reporting

(CBS) CHICAGO Power lunches and complimentary trips to the


Caribbean are history for former Gov. George Ryan. He has
Registered: Jul 2003 requested to serve his 6 1/2-year prison sentence at a federal
Location: Chicago, Illinois camp in Wisconsin.
Posts: 9967
CBS 2's Dorothy Tucker reports on what life will be like when he
gets there.

Most inmates that are sentenced request to go to Oxford, Wis.,


a minimum security prison three and half hours from Chicago.
Unlike maximum facilities where there are gates, guards and
guns, Oxford is described as a camp.

“You're not going to see the birdman of Alcatraz when it comes


to George Ryan. He is going to a federal prison camp which
pretty much resembles a college dormitory,” said CBS 2
legal analyst Irv Miller.

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But in this college Ryan will have to give up his suit and tie and
replace it with an army green shirt and khakis. He will be on a
strict schedule, up at 6:30 a.m., and will work a menial job for
as little as 15 cents an hour, according to prison expert Herbert
Hoelter.

“The work is boring. There are jobs in food service, there are
jobs in laundry, there are jobs as orderlies,” Hoelter said.

When his job is done, Ryan will have free time to read or watch
TV with the other inmates.

“Whoever is there first or who's the largest rules the screens,”


Hoelter said. “All they watch is police shows and lawyer shows.”

The highlights of Ryan's days will undoubtedly be the weekend


visits from his family, but it will also be a low point.

“Visiting becomes very difficult, more so on the inmate then on


the family. The family gets to leave at 3:30 p.m. The inmate
has to stay there and feel the guilt and remorse of having
failed,” Hoelter said.

“And the most dehumanizing factor -- every time he has contact


with the outside world he has to go through a strip search,”
Miller said.

Ryan will serve his time with a prison population that is


predominately black and Hispanic. The majority have been
convicted of drug-related crimes.

Because of his fight against the death penalty, experts say Ryan
will garner a huge amount of support behind bars. And most
inmates will probably address him as "governor."

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state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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http://www.hoinews.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=19444

Registered: Jul 2003 Posted: Friday, October 13, 2006 at 8:35 PM


Location:
Posts: 31403 CHICAGO (AP) -- George Ryan's defense team isn't commenting
Friday on a judge's order for the former governor to start serving
his prison term in January as scheduled.

U.S. District Judge Rebecca Pallmeyer rejected Ryan's claim Friday


that misconduct by jurors at the close of the trial made it likely that
a higher court would throw out the verdict.

Judges are supposed to issue appeal bonds only if there's a


substantial likelihood the verdict will be overturned by an appeals
court.

Her 32-page order effectively told Ryan, who was convicted in April,
to start serving his 6 1/2 year federal prison sentence on January 4.

It wasn't known whether Ryan's lawyers would now be able to go to


the Seventh U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in an effort to get an
appeal bond.

The 72-year-old Ryan was convicted of racketeering conspiracy,


fraud, tax offenses and lying to FBI agents.

(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press.

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GC Marciano Re: Judge denies appeal bond, tells Ryan he must go to prison
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Originally posted by Navigatr1


Judge denies appeal bond, tells Ryan he must
go to prison

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quote:

Originally posted by Navigatr1


He added, "A long sentence today for a man of
my age and my health is tantamount to a
death sentence."

Registered: Jul 2003


Location: Chicago, Illinois Yep, and I'm looking forward to it, Mr. Ryan. You made a career
Posts: 9967 of stealing my hard earned money, asswipe.

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Navigatr1 Ryan is granted bail


Extended Sabatical

Ryan is granted bail

Former governor will remain free while appealing conviction


Registered: Jul 2003 http://pjstar.com/stories/113006/REG_BBM1CDPJ.025.shtml
Location:
Posts: 31403 Thursday, November 30, 2006

By MIKE ROBINSON

OF THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


CHICAGO - In a stunning decision, a federal appeals court has ruled
that former Gov. George Ryan does not have to start his 61/2-year
prison sentence as scheduled and may remain free on bond,
pending appeal.

But the appeals court said in its ruling Tuesday that if it upholds the
racketeering and fraud conviction handed down by a federal court
jury last April, the 72-year-old Ryan must go immediately to prison.

The appeals court's decision represented a setback for federal


prosecutors who had argued that Ryan should start serving his
sentence Jan. 4, as ordered by U.S. District Judge Rebecca
Pallmeyer.

Prosecutors said there was little chance the guilty verdict reached
after a six-month trial before Pallmeyer would be overturned on
appeal, so Ryan should start his sentence as scheduled.

But Ryan's lawyers argued that the tumultuous jury deliberations at


the conclusion of the case - in which two jurors were dismissed and
replaced with alternates because of police records - were badly
flawed. They said the likelihood the conviction eventually will be
thrown out because of jury problems justified granting bond to
Ryan.

A spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office, Randall Samborn, said

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Wednesday that the government would have no comment on the U.


S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals decision.

Reporters did not realize the ruling had been issued Tuesday until
Wednesday morning.

Dan K. Webb, chairman of Chicago's Winston and Strawn law firm


and leader of the Ryan defense team, issued a statement saying
that "Gov. Ryan is grateful that the United States Court of Appeals
for the 7th Circuit entered an order allowing him to remain free on
bond pending appeal."

Webb noted that such decisions by the court are very unusual.

Longtime Ryan friend and businessman Larry Warner also was


convicted in the trial. The appeals court's decision did not involve
Warner or his 3 1/2-year prison sentence.

The four-page decision contained no explanation of the order.

"Appellant Ryan is granted bail pending the disposition of his appeal


in this court," the order said. "If the judgment is affirmed the grant
of bail will end automatically, without waiting for this court to issue
its mandate." It said Ryan's legal team would get no extension to
file briefs, signaling that the court wants no long delays.

The order was issued by a three-judge panel consisting of Chief


Judge Frank H. Easterbrook and Judges Terence T. Evans and Diane
S. Sykes.

Attorneys said there was no way to predict how long the appeals
court would take to uphold Ryan's conviction or grant him a new
trial. But the order suggested that Ryan will remain free pending
that decision.

There was nothing in the order itself to hint at how the court might
rule on Ryan's appeal. But prominent Chicago defense attorney Rick
Halprin, who had predicted Ryan would get the unusual appeal
bond, said the decision was guaranteed to rekindle hope within the
Ryan camp.

"If you're George Ryan you have to be very encouraged by this,"


said Halprin, who does not represent anyone involved in the case.
But he said the decision to grant bond was not "a sure predictor of
what will happen."

Ryan was accused of steering lucrative state contracts, leases and


other benefits to lobbyists and business friends who in turn
provided him with gifts ranging from vacations in Jamaica to a free
golf bag.

The former governor, known nationally for declaring a moratorium


on the death penalty in Illinois, also was accused of using state
employees and taxpayer dollars to run his political campaigns and
other offenses.

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On Wednesday, state officials stripped him of a $197,000 annual


pension, ruling that the conviction wiped out benefits built up from
a 35-year career in public office.

Much of the evidence in the case involved actions taken by Ryan


when he was secretary of state for eight years in the 1990s before
his 1998 election as governor. The husky-voiced, snowy-haired
Republican maintained to the end that nothing he did while in office
violated the law.

Appeal bonds are unusual. Most criminal defendants in federal


cases who are sentenced to prison must start serving their
sentences soon afterward while their lawyers fight their appeals.
Ryan's lawyers argued that the problems involving the Ryan jury
made his case "a close call."

Pallmeyer suggested to lawyers in the case that her decision to


replace jurors after eight deliberation sessions might well be
considered an error by the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Besides the jurors who were replaced, Ryan's lawyers cited a juror
who brought legal papers she found on the Internet into the jury
room.

In a 102-page September ruling in which she denied bail to Ryan,


Pallmeyer said the jury problems were not serious enough to
suggest that an appeals court was likely to overturn the conviction.

"When the alternates were initially excused the court directed that
they not consider media attention until they learned that the verdict
was returned," Pallmeyer said. Thus they were not biased by
publicity surrounding the case after the verdict.

She said questioning of the alternates who were brought in showed


that they "had not in fact been unduly exposed to trial publicity or
the comments of third parties." She said the legal papers brought in
by one of the jurors did not amount to enough to fatally prejudice
the other jurors.

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GC Marciano And once again Ryan begins the process of avoiding


Copwatcher Extraordinaire accountability for his crimes.

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Navigatr1 Convicted Ex-Ill. Gov. Sues for Pension


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Convicted Ex-Ill. Gov. Sues for Pension


http://www.examiner.com/a-478410~Co...or_Pension.html

Registered: Jul 2003 The Associated Press


Location: Dec 28, 2006 8:02 AM (3 days ago)
Posts: 31403
CHICAGO - Convicted former Gov. George Ryan is suing to keep at
least part of his $197,000 state pension, the third of it that he says
he earned before the scandals that now have him facing 6 1/2
years in prison.

Ryan was found guilty in April of mail fraud, money laundering,


extortion, obstruction of justice and bribery while he was secretary
of state and governor between 1991 and 2003.

After his conviction, the General Assembly Retirement System


board voted to strip him of his entire annual pension.

Ryan's attorneys argue in the lawsuit filed Wednesday that the


Republican former governor should still get $65,000 in annual

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pension payments that he earned in the 24 years before 1991,


when Ryan was a county board member, legislator and lieutenant
governor.

The pension board had relied on an opinion from Attorney General


Lisa Madigan, who said Ryan, 72, should forfeit the entire pension
because of his felony convictions.

"The criminal conduct in which he engaged for over a decade as a


state official is precisely the type of misconduct and breach of public
trust that the felony forfeiture provision of (state law) is designed to
discourage," Madigan wrote.

Madigan spokesman Scott Mulford told the Chicago Tribune for its
Thursday editions that the attorney general's opinion on Ryan's
pension had been exhaustively researched and "speaks for itself."

Telephone messages left for retirement system officials seeking


comment were not immediately returned.

Pension officials have said Ryan is eligible for a refund of about


$235,000, the amount he paid into the system. The former
governor claims he did nothing wrong and is free while appealing
his conviction.

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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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Navigatr1 Former governor's corruption conviction stands


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updated 3:02 p.m. EDT, Tue August 21, 2007

Former governor's corruption conviction stands


Registered: Jul 2003 http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/2...d.ap/index.html
Location:
Posts: 31403 Story Highlights
* Appeals court upholds ex-governor's racketeering conviction
* George Ryan was found guilty of taking payoffs
* It's not clear when he might begin serving 6½-year sentence
* Case was biggest political scandal to hit Illinois in decades

CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- A federal appeals court upheld former


Gov. George Ryan's racketeering and fraud conviction Tuesday and
refused to grant him a new trial in the biggest political scandal to
rock Illinois in decades.

Attorneys on both sides were left trying to determine if the 73-year-


old former governor, once the state's most powerful Republican,
would now have to report to prison immediately.

Ryan was convicted last year of racketeering conspiracy, fraud and


other offenses for taking payoffs from political insiders in exchange
for state business while he was Illinois secretary of state from 1991
to 1999 and governor for four years after that.

Prosecutors said he had steered state contracts and leases to


insiders and used tax dollars in his political campaigns.

In his appeal,Ryan's attorneys had argued that the jury's


deliberations were flawed.

U.S. District Judge Rebecca R. Pallmeyer had replaced two jurors


with alternates after deliberations in the case had already started,
and the defense said unauthorized documents brought into the jury
room poisoned the deliberations.

The three-judge 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel disagreed


Tuesday in a 2-1 decision.

"The fact that the trial may not have been picture perfect is, in
itself, nothing unusual," Judge Diane Wood wrote in the majority
opinion, joined by Judge Daniel Manion.

Judge Michael Kanne dissented and said Ryan and his co-defendant,
businessman-lobbyist Larry Warner, should get a new trial. Kanne
said the concession that the trial wasn't picture perfect was "a
whopping understatement by any measure" and called the jury
deliberations "dysfunctional."

It wasn't immediately clear when Ryan would have to begin serving


his 61/2-year sentence. He has been free on an unusual appeal
bond granted by the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The court

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had said then that he would have to report within 72 hours unless
granted a new trial, said former federal prosecutor Patrick M.
Collins, who spearheaded the corruption investigation.

"He can still appeal things, but even with those appeals pending, by
court order, he has to report," Collins said.

Ryan and Warner both maintain they did nothing illegal.

The investigation into the men began as a probe of bribes


exchanged for commercial drivers licenses in Illinois. It ballooned
into a wide-ranging investigation of corruption when Ryan was a
major political power at the Statehouse in Springfield and led to
dozens of convictions of state officials, lobbyists, driving instructors
and others.

At the same time, Ryan was also being praised by capital


punishment foes for suspending executions in the state and clearing
Illinois' death row.

Ryan's appeal of his conviction was largely based on the decisions


by Pallmeyer to replace the two jurors after deliberations had
started. The dismissed jurors had been found to have omitted
mention on pre-trial questionnaires that they had been in trouble
with the police.

"The high profile nature of these proceedings gave rise to some


unusual problems with the jury, but we are satisfied that the court
handled them acceptably," the appeals court said.

Ryan was defended at the trial by prominent attorney Dan K. Webb.


At the time of the trial, the chairman of Webb's law firm, Winston &
Strawn, was another former Illinois governor, James R. Thompson,
who was a longtime Ryan political ally and provided the extensive
defense for free.

Calls to Winston & Strawn for comment Tuesday were referred to


Thompson. Thompson, reached shortly after the verdict, said: "I
have to read the opinion, man."

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GC Marciano Judge orders Ryan to report to prison Nov. 7


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Rob Olmstead | Daily Herald Staff Writer
Updated: 10/26/2007 12:17 PM

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=64003

A federal judge today set former Gov. George Ryan's prison


reporting date for Nov. 7, provided Ryan does not succeed in
his request to remain free on bond while he appeals his
conviction with the U.S. Supreme Court.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois That request for bond will be filed with the U.S. Court of
Posts: 9967 Appeals Seventh Circuit in Chicago this afternoon, said Ryan's
attorney, Timothy Rooney. Although the Seventh Circuit is
under no constraints to rule quickly, another Ryan lawyer,
former Gov. James R. Thompson, said Thursday he expects it to
rule before Nov. 7.

In August, when a three-judge panel of the Seventh Circuit


turned down Ryan’s appeal, it ruled the same day on
Ryan's request for bond, approving it. If that court denies the
request for bond, Ryan's team will ask the U.S. Supreme Court
for bond. But experts say requests for bond at the U.S.
Supreme Court level are almost never granted.

Ryan is slated to report to a prison in Duluth, Minn., to begin a


6 1/2-year sentence, but his legal team is trying to convince the
U.S. Bureau of Prisons to let him serve his time at a prison in
Oxford, Wis.

By a 6-3 vote Thursday, the United States Court of Appeals


Seventh Circuit denied him a hearing by the entire court.

Ryan's legal team continued to hold out hope, based on a


strong opinion by the three judges who dissented. Chief among
those dissenters was nationally respected Judge Richard Posner.

"He told me that he would keep fighting," Thompson told


reporters. "What do you think he's going to do, quit? He won't
quit."

Ryan, 73, of Kankakee, received word of his gloomy news


through the media.

"He's bearing up as well as you could expect," said Thompson.

U.S Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald and former Assistant U.S.


Attorney Patrick Collins, who prosecuted Ryan, hailed the

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decision.

"This case was always about breach of the public trust," said
Collins.

Ryan was convicted more than a year ago for trading


government contracts for benefits to himself and his family.

With the denial of rehearing, Collins said he's not counting any
chickens before they're hatched, but he does get a sense that
things could be over soon.

"A sense of finality is important for the system," Collins said.

But Ryan intends to fight all the way to the U.S. Supreme
Court, Thompson said.

"(A fair trial is) the most fundamental right that we have," said
Thompson. "If the forum isn't fair, then all of your other rights
are irrelevant, aren't they?"

The appellate court majority did not issue an opinion in its


denial of rehearing, which is standard. But the minority,
perhaps in a sign of how strongly it felt, did take the unusual
step of writing out its reasons for dissent.

"We agree with the (three-judge) panel majority that the


evidence of the defendants' guilt was overwhelming. But guilt,
no matter how clearly established, cannot cancel a criminal
defendant's right to a trial that meets minimum standards of
procedural justice," wrote the dissenting judges: Posner,
Michael S. Kanne and Ann Claire Williams.

Thompson, at one point in his statements Thursday, appeared


to agree with that assessment of evidence.

"I don't contest, if the trial was fair, the evidence was
sufficient," he said.

But he quickly clarified that didn't mean Ryan was guilty. A new
trial could allow in much of the evidence Ryan thought would
show his innocence, and possibly result in a different verdict,
Thompson said.

Thompson, like the dissenters, referred to a number of jury


problems that plagued the trial, including misstatements by
several of them that they had had no prior dealings with the
justice system. In fact, several of them had -- a fact that was
revealed in newspaper reports in the middle of deliberations.

The trial judge, U.S. District Judge Rebecca Pallmeyer, threw off
some jurors whose records didn't match their statements during
jury selection but kept others. In the end, she found some of
their explanations credible but did not believe others.

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One of the jurors dismissed was Evelyn Ezell, a Chicago woman


who had been a holdout for Ryan. One allowed to stay on was
Kevin Rein, a Glen Ellen man who voted to convict.

Other jury issues included a juror bringing in outside material in


violation of a judge's order. The defense questioned whether it
was fair to restart deliberations with new jurors after the other
jurors had already been deliberating for eight days.

Finally, jurors' who had made misstatements about their court


interactions might have been worried about prosecution by the
U.S. attorney trying the case, the defense contended.

Surprisingly, however, the dissenters spent eight pages of their


15-page decision talking about the six-month length of the trial
-- an issue neither the defense nor the prosecution had brought
up as a matter of concern.

"It's a bit strange," said Ronald Allen, a law professor at


Northwestern University School of Law.

"Rather than try to demonstrate that the collective force of


these problems puts this case over the line … it goes into this
long discussion (of trial length)."

"It is interesting," agreed Thompson.

Some experts, like Len Cavise, a DePaul University College of


Law professor, believe a new trial is warranted.

"I admire those dissenters (for taking) a look at this high-profile


case in the eye and to call it what they called it -- which was a
travesty," Cavise said.

But Allen said it was less clear-cut.

"Some of the things that happened in this case are


troublesome, there's no doubt about it," Allen said. "On
balance, it's not implausible to me that he should go to jail."

Collins pointed out that the trial took as long as it did, in part,
because of requests by the defense.

"That's ridiculous. It was done by (Judge) Pallmeyer because


she can't manage a case," said Cavise. "She just doesn't know
how to say 'no.' … There are any number of judges who would
have taken those lawyers into chambers and said, 'Clean up
your act.'"

The dissenters seemed to take that view as well.

"Federal trial judges … recognize and discharge a duty of active


trial management. … They do not defer abjectly to the lawyers'
preferences regarding length of trial," they wrote.

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Collins defended the judge.

"I think she's one of the most fair, if not the most fair judge in
the building," he said.

However, he did concede: "I did think Posner was giving a


treatise to judges about tightening up trials in the future."

Some jurors in the case said they felt Thursday's ruling was an
endorsement of their finding.

"I was pleased with the decision by the appellate court," juror
James Cwick of Glen Ellyn said. "This is just further upholding of
rulings made by the three-judge panel and Judge Pallmeyer. I
don't wish jail on anybody. But it was his actions that caused
this."

"I'm not surprised," juror Denise Peterson of Hawthorn Woods


said. "The evidence was so overwhelming. The man deserves to
go to jail. All they (the defense) did was go after the jury, throw
us under the bus."

Rein said, "We had it right all along. Hopefully he goes off, and
he does his time."

Ezell, the holdout juror who was dismissed, disagreed.

"I think it's unfair," said Ezell, of Chicago. "Although I was not
surprised. At this point, I've lost hope. I've lost hope for him
that he's going to get any justice."

Lawyers for Ryan and the government will be in court today


before Pallmeyer to finalize his reporting date of Nov. 7, said
defense attorney Timothy Rooney. The hearing is at 10 a.m.

Ryan had last been slated to go to prison in Duluth Minn., but


his legal team is asking the U.S. Department of Corrections to
switch that designation to Oxford, Wis., Thompson said. He
does not know if that request will be successful.

If the Seventh Circuit does not grant bond while Ryan's


Supreme Court appeal proceeds, Ryan will appeal for bond to
the U.S. Supreme Court. Justice John Paul Stephens would be
the one to rule on that request, Thompson said. If he does not
rule before Nov. 7, Ryan would have to report to prison.

A decision on whether the U.S. Supreme Court will even hear


the case will likely come before their current term ends next
summer, Thompson said.

If they won't hear the case, "that will be the end of the line,"
Thompson said.

Telephone calls to Ryan's home and cell phone went


unanswered.

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GC Marciano Ryan to be sent to Wisconsin prison


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Michael Higgins | Tribune staff reporter
November 3, 2007

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...1,2477899.story

Former Gov. George Ryan won a small legal victory this week
as federal prison officials agreed to reassign him to a facility in
Oxford, Wis.

Registered: Jul 2003 Ryan had opposed his original assignment -- a similar facility in
Location: Chicago, Illinois Duluth, Minn. -- because it would have required his family to
Posts: 9967 travel twice as far for visits.

"Obviously, we're grateful to the Bureau [of Prisons] for taking


into account the travel time," former Gov. James Thompson,
one of Ryan's attorneys, said Friday.

"That's the only difference," Thompson said. "A prison is a


prison."

Ryan is awaiting word from U.S. Supreme Court Justice John


Paul Stevens on whether he must report to prison on
Wednesday as scheduled.

Ryan's lawyers have filed a long-shot bid, asking the court to


allow him to remain free while he appeals his corruption
conviction.

A federal jury convicted Ryan in April 2006 on charges that as


secretary of state and governor, he doled out sweetheart deals
to co-defendant Lawrence Warner and other friends and used

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state resources and employees for political gain. Ryan was


sentenced to 6 1/2 years in prison.

If Ryan reports to the camp in Oxford, he will become the latest


in a string of convicted Illinois politicians to serve time there.

Among the former inmates is former U.S. Rep. Dan


Rostenkowski, once chairman of the Ways and Means
Committee. Others include former Alds. Larry Bloom (5th),
Virgil Jones (15th) and Ambrosio Medrano (25th).

There are no fences at prison camps like the one in Oxford,


which hold non-violent inmates with no history of escape. Life is
still carefully regimented, said Felicia Ponce, a spokeswoman for
the Federal Bureau of Prisons.

Typically, inmates rise at 6 a.m., eat breakfast and report to


work by 7:30 a.m. They work until 3:30 p.m., with a break for
lunch. They have free time after dinner and report back to their
housing units by 9 p.m. Lights go out about 11:30, she said.

Inmates must work if medically able, regardless of age, Ponce


said. Their jobs include groundskeeping, food service and
cleaning the housing units.

"They would clean the common area. They would mop. They
would sweep, clean the bathrooms," Ponce said.

The inmates' wages typically start at 12 cents an hour, and can


get raises up to 40 cents an hour, Ponce said.

The prison camps do not have cells, but rather rooms that are
typically shared by two to four inmates, said Ponce, who
compared the housing to "a college dorm or converted army
barracks."

Ryan and Warner have remained free on bail since their


convictions. During that time, their lawyers have argued,
unsuccessfully so far, that juror controversies deprived them of
a fair trial.

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11-05-2007 01:28 AM

liberranter Originally posted by GC505


Super Moderator
quote:

Ryan had opposed his original assignment -- a


similar facility in Duluth, Minn. -- because it
would have required his family to travel twice
as far for visits.

...

Ryan is awaiting word from U.S. Supreme


Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ Court Justice John Paul Stevens on whether
Posts: 5865 he must report to prison on Wednesday as
scheduled.

Ryan's lawyers have filed a long-shot bid,


asking the court to allow him to remain free
while he appeals his corruption conviction.

....

Ryan and Warner have remained free on bail


since their convictions. During that time, their
lawyers have argued, unsuccessfully so far,
that juror controversies deprived them of a
fair trial.

Why are these even issues at all? These two scumbags were
tried in a court of law by a jury of their peers, found guilty by
the same, and sentenced in accordance with current law. What
is there left to argue? They're going to prison, at a facility of the
government's choosing, and that's that. IOW, they're getting
the same treatment that would be doled out to any average
citizen convicted of the same crime. These scumbags deserve
no special treatment or consideration whatsoever that would
not be granted to ordinary citizens under the same
circumstances. PERIOD.

quote:

If Ryan reports to the camp in Oxford, he will

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become the latest in a string of convicted


Illinois politicians to serve time there.

Among the former inmates is former U.S. Rep.


Dan Rostenkowski, once chairman of the Ways
and Means Committee. Others include former
Alds. Larry Bloom (5th), Virgil Jones (15th)
and Ambrosio Medrano (25th).

That's an impressive "Who's Who" of career politician


scumbags. And those are just the ones from Illinois. Imagine
how full the place would be if it were to hold corrupt politician
scumbags from the 49 other states.

quote:

Inmates must work if medically able,


regardless of age, Ponce said. Their jobs
include groundskeeping, food service and
cleaning the housing units.

"They would clean the common area. They


would mop. They would sweep, clean the
bathrooms," Ponce said.

The inmates' wages typically start at 12 cents


an hour, and can get raises up to 40 cents an
hour, Ponce said.

It warms the cockles of my heart to hear that these disgusting,


thieving vermin are forced to do an honest day's labor for once
in their wretched lives.

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Thomas Jefferson

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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its

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freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that


it values more, it will lose that too.
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11-05-2007 12:22 PM

GC Marciano It's Tuesday, November 6th...


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
One more day until you start paying your debt to the society
that you spent your entire life stealing from, George!

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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11-06-2007 05:32 AM

liberranter I wonder what form of demeaning manual labor they'll have him
Super Moderator doing? Whatever it is, it'll probably be the first honest day's
work he's ever done in his adult life.

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Thomas Jefferson

"Oink If You Hate Freedom"

Registered: Jun 2005


"And this brings us to a point that has to be driven home with
Location: Tucson, AZ the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
Posts: 5865 silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-

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accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman


Grigg

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
— W. Somerset Maugham, Strictly Personal (1941)

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11-06-2007 05:48 PM

GC Marciano U.S. Supreme Court denies Ryan's final request to remain


Copwatcher Extraordinaire free
By Michael Higgins | Tribune staff reporter
10:18 AM CST, November 6, 2007

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...hi_breaking_500

U.S. Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens today rejected


former Gov. George Ryan's final, long-shot bid to remain free
on bail while he fights to overturn his corruption conviction
Registered: Jul 2003 before the nation's highest court.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 The ruling means Ryan must report to a federal prison camp in
Oxford, Wis., by 5 p.m. Wednesday to begin serving his 6½-
year sentence.

A federal jury convicted Ryan in April 2006 on charges that, as


secretary of state and governor, he doled out sweetheart deals
to co-defendant Lawrence Warner and other friends, and used
state resources and employees for political gain.

Ryan and Warner have remained free on bail while their lawyers
have argued--unsuccessfully so far--that a series of juror
controversies deprived them of a fair trial.

The two can still ask the U.S. Supreme Court to review their
case, but the ruling today means they must await the high
court's decision in prison. Warner, who was sentenced to almost
3½ years in prison, is set to surrender Wednesday at a prison
camp in Littleton, Colo.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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11-06-2007 07:52 PM

GC Marciano George Ryan on trial: Indictment to conviction


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Ryan was on trial on federal corruption charges that when he
was secretary of state and later governor, he steered leases and
contracts to friends and political supporters and was repaid with
free vacations and other gifts.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ack=2&cset=true

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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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GC Marciano
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Registered: Jul 2003


Location: Chicago, Illinois Final Ryan statement before prison:
Posts: 9967
'I'm innocent'
11/06/2007, 7:51 pm

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http://www.daily-journal.com/archiv...y.php?id=407169

Former Illinois Gov. George Ryan, in a final public statement


from his Kankakee home Tuesday night, said he will report to
the Federal corrections facility in Oxford, Wisconsin tomorrow
with a clear conscience.

The U.S. Supreme Court’s denial of his bail earlier in the day
ended Ryan’s year-long fight to remain free following conviction
on federal racketeering and fraud charges.

Tuesday, The glossy-eyed former governor maintained his


innocence while flanked by his immediate and extended family.

“I will report to the Federal Corrections Facility in Oxford,


Wisconsin as ordered tomorrow morning, but I do so with a
clear conscience,” said Ryan. “As I have said since the
beginning of this 10 year ordeal; I’m innocent. I intend to prove
that.”

Ryan, 73, faces a 6 1/2 year prison sentence. He thanked his


family for their “undying love” over the past decade as he
fought off the temptation to enter a plea agreement, which
could have won him a shorter prison term.

“It would have been easy over the course of these to fold to the
unrelenting pressure of a plea agreement,” said Ryan. “It would
have spared my family a lot of pain, but such a plea would not
have been truthful.”

Ryan said he intends to continue fighting to prove his innocence


as he enters the new phase in his life.

“Tomorrow, I embark on a new journey in my life. I do so with


a firm faith in God and the support and faith of my family,” said
Ryan. “We are going to continue our fight.

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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11-07-2007 03:08 AM

GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by GC505
Ryan said he intends to continue fighting to
prove his innocence as he enters the new
phase in his life.

Damn that rings a bell... there was another scumbag that said
Registered: Jul 2003 the same thing a while back... Oh yeah. It was OJ Simpson.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
With any luck, this will be the FINAL phase in George's life.
Hopefully his thieving, lying ass will die in there, but even then
the taxpayers will be forced to cough up more of their money. I
vote to let the criminal cocksucker die in there, then toss his
worthless corpse to the rats.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano This is from the front page of the Chicago Sun-Times last
Copwatcher Extraordinaire November after the courts ruled that George Ryan would be
allowed to stay free on bail while his appeal was heard.

He was right... There is a God. Ryan goes to prison TODAY!

Attachment: ryan bail s-t 11-30-6-723175.jpg


This has been downloaded 43 time(s).

Registered: Jul 2003 __________________


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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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11-07-2007 03:27 AM

GC Marciano
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Former Illinois Governor Ryan enters prison


Wed Nov 7, 2007 2:28pm EST

http://www.reuters.com/article/poli...754401620071107

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Former Illinois Gov. George Ryan entered


a federal prison in Wisconsin on Wednesday to begin serving a
Registered: Jul 2003 6-1/2 year sentence for corruption, proclaiming his innocence to
Location: Chicago, Illinois
the end.
Posts: 9967
Ryan, 73, and family members arrived by car at a minimum
security facility in Oxford, Wisconsin, about midday, witnesses
said, 24 hours after his last-ditch appeal to the Supreme Court
to remain free on bail was turned down.

"As I have said since the beginning of this 10-year ordeal, I am


innocent," he told reporters earlier. His lawyers, including
another former Illinois governor, Jim Thompson, said they
would try to get the high court to consider an appeal.

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Ryan has been nominated several times for a Nobel Peace Prize
because of his opposition to the death penalty. In 2000 he
ordered a moratorium on executions in Illinois after 13 death
row inmates were found to have been wrongly convicted.

Before leaving office in 2003, Ryan emptied the state's death


row, commuting the sentences of 167 inmates to life in prison
and becoming a hero to foes of capital punishment. The
moratorium he imposed still stands.

Ryan and lobbyist Larry Warner were convicted in 2006 of 18


counts of racketeering, conspiracy, fraud and other offenses
involving favoritism and kickbacks for state contracts and
property leases that prosecutors said enriched Ryan and his
friends while he was governor.

A Republican, Ryan won a single four-year term as governor in


1998 before retiring amid a bribery scandal rooted in his years
as secretary of state and involving employees of his office who
sold truck drivers' licenses.

The scandals paved the way for Democrats to regain the Illinois
governor's seat for the first time in more than a quarter century
with Rod Blagojevich's election in 2002. Blagojevich won a
second term in 2006.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano You're guilty, Ryan, and we know it


Copwatcher Extraordinaire He's confusing a clear conscience with a lack of
conscience
November 7, 2007
BY MARK BROWN Sun-Times Columnist

http://www.suntimes.com/news/brown/...brown07.article

That was amazing. What a horse's behind. I just watched


Registered: Jul 2003 George Ryan say he's going to report to prison today with a
Location: Chicago, Illinois clear conscience. He says he's innocent, and he still intends to
Posts: 9967 prove it.

He didn't apologize. He didn't so much as admit he made any


mistakes. His defiance couldn't have been more complete if he
flipped us the bird.

I hadn't intended to write about Ryan going to prison today. I


thought everything had been said.

'Still fighting for justice'? Baloney!

But I can't let him get away with that little speech when I know
many of you sat there at home watching it on television while
sputtering just like me, but without the platform to express
yourselves.

Ryan should have just kept his mouth shut if he didn't have the
sense or decency to acknowledge the error of his ways.

He should have waved at the cameras and climbed into his car
and drove to Oxford, Wis., and waved once more from inside
the car when he got up there.

Then, in 2012 -- when the now 73-year-old former governor will


get out of prison, if he lasts that long -- he could have waved
twice more on the way home. Fine by me.

Ryan should have saved the baloney about "still fighting for
justice" for the people who drank the Kool-Aid and think he's a
martyr because he brought a halt to the death penalty in Illinois.

George Ryan is no martyr, whether you agree with his handling


of the death penalty or not.

He did everything feds said -- and more

George Ryan presided over a secretary of state's office where


truck drivers routinely obtained their licenses with bribes, tens
of thousands of dollars of which made their way into his
campaign coffers -- a nasty little problem that he tried to cover
up. People got killed as a result of those unqualified drivers out
there on the road.

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While Ryan was secretary of state, he gave his buddies an


inside track on most of the big leases and contracts let by his
office. In return, they showered "gifts" on him and his family.

Perhaps he continues to confuse a clear conscience with a lack


of conscience.

How exactly does Ryan propose to prove his innocence at this


point? Is he going to find the one-armed man?

(Note to younger readers: There used to be this television show


called "The Fugitive" that they made into a movie with Harrison
Ford in which this doctor is convicted of killing his wife and . . .
oh, never mind.)

George Ryan is not innocent. He's not even "not guilty," a


distinction he may or may not appreciate.

Earth to George. You're guilty.

You did everything the feds accused you of doing -- and more --
and the people of Illinois know it.

The prosecutors proved it to a judge and jury. They also proved


it to the appellate court, which found the evidence
overwhelming.

Ryan's innocence isn't really a matter of serious discussion at


this stage, only whether he received a fair trial given some of
the goofiness during jury deliberations.

At most, he never had a chance for anything more than a new


trial, where all the evidence from the first trial would have still
been in full force and effect, and where a new jury would have
convicted him just as quickly as he could be brought to trial.
'10-year ordeal' for us, too

While waiting to go to prison, Ryan has undoubtedly run into a


lot of people who have expressed kind words to him either back
in Kankakee or on his Chicago restaurant circuit. People are like
that. They don't want to be outwardly mean -- like newspaper
columnists.

Ryan may be suffering under some delusion that people are on


his side.

He spoke again Tuesday of his "10-year ordeal" under


"unrelenting pressure."

It's been an ordeal for us, too, George, wondering whether


you'd ever be brought to justice with one of the best legal
teams in the country pulling out all the stops on your behalf and
cleverly postponing what one of the appellate court judges
called your "day of reckoning."

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Well, the day of reckoning is today, and whatever sympathy


that might have been directed your way because of your age
and your family situation, you kissed that goodbye with your
defiant speech.

Consider this our return kiss in your direction.

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GC Marciano I wonder what the chances are of scumbag George Bush


Copwatcher Extraordinaire granting a pardon to scumbag George Ryan on his way out of
the White House?

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11-08-2007 05:05 AM

liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by GC505

I wonder what the chances are of scumbag


George Bush granting a pardon to scumbag
George Ryan on his way out of the White
House?

Registered: Jun 2005


I don't know, but wouldn't it be wonderful to see scumbag
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 George Bush joining scumbag George Ryan as a "guest" at
Oxford?

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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
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11-08-2007 11:47 AM

GC Marciano Will the current IL Governor be next?


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
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One Illinois governor in prison, another facing similar


allegations

http://cbs2chicago.com/illinoiswire...evich-Inves.xml

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) It might seem incredible that as a


Registered: Jul 2003 former Illinois governor reports to federal prison, the current
Location: Chicago, Illinois chief faces similar misconduct allegations, from handing out
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state contracts as political rewards to accepting money under

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suspicious circumstances.

But this is Illinois.

Democrat Rod Blagojevich, who won the chief executive's office


five years ago as a reformer promising to clean up former Gov.
George Ryan's mess, has wound up besieged by accusations.

Two people already have pleaded guilty to federal charges in a


shakedown scheme that also ensnared one of the governor's
closest fundraisers in an indictment.

Federal prosecutors have acknowledged they're also


investigating "serious allegations of endemic hiring fraud" under
Blagojevich.

Jay Stewart, executive director of the Better Government


Association, blames an arrogant political culture in Illinois where
the philosophy is "take what you can get."

"It's not about serving the people. It's not even about serving
partisan interests. It's about enriching yourself and your
friends," Stewart said.

A Blagojevich aide pointed out that prosecutors are examining


all levels of government, not just the state Capitol. The
governor has not been charged with any wrongdoing.

Ryan, a Republican, entered a federal penitentiary in Oxford,


Wis., Wednesday after the U.S. Supreme Court denied him bail
while he appeals his April 2006 conviction on racketeering and
fraud charges. The decade-long investigation began with the
sale of driver's licenses for bribes and led to the conviction of
dozens of people who worked for Ryan when he was secretary
of state and governor.

Blagojevich said he was different, declaring upon taking office in


2003 that he would "shake up a system in Springfield that
accepts corruption."

But Antoin "Tony" Rezko, a Blagojevich political confidant and


friend, is under indictment, accused of participating in seeking
campaign contributions from investment companies in exchange
for getting them business with a state pension system.

In one case, the indictment claims Rezko demanded a firm


make a $1.5 million contribution to "a certain public official."
That was Blagojevich, according to a person familiar with the
investigation, who spoke only on condition of anonymity
because the probe is continuing.

The administration also has been accused of trading state jobs,


appointments and contracts for political contributions. And a
friend whose wife had just gotten a state job gave Blagojevich a

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check for $1,500. The governor said it was a gift for one of his
daughters, but he wasn't sure which one.

Federal prosecutors have even subpoenaed records from


Blagojevich's political campaign fund, according to the Chicago
Tribune.

Ryan's campaign committee was convicted of racketeering in


2003.

Taxpayers just shake their heads.

"Setting the bar at a level of honest, competent government


should not be an unattainable goal," said Rep. John Fritchey, a
Chicago Democrat and legislative leader on ethics issues.

Blagojevich spokeswoman Abby Ottenhoff pointed out that


Blagojevich signed tough ethics legislation that created an
independent inspector general, unlike the "puppet" who served
Ryan as secretary of state and was convicted of obstructing
inquiries.

Blagojevich also is not the only one under the gun. For
example, Ottenhoff pointed to recent convictions for improper
political hiring at Chicago City Hall.

"In recent years, we've seen government at every level is under


closer scrutiny and we think that's good for the system,"
Ottenhoff said.

Former U.S. Attorney William Roberts, now in private practice,


represented at least two dozen people questioned in the Ryan
case.

He said he never has seen "a more intense investigation'' and


doesn't see the government easing up.

"One wonders why anyone who reads the papers would get
within a mile of questionable conduct," Roberts said.

Mike Lawrence, director of the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute


at Southern Illinois University, doesn't know what will come of
the Blagojevich probes. But, he said, "There's a lot of smoke."

Lawrence, a top adviser to former GOP Gov. Jim Edgar who is


credited with starting an investigation into a contract-for-bribes
scandal in 1995 by turning over an anonymous letter to state
police, said good government starts at the top.

"People fear confronting a public official with bad news of any


kind, and it's particularly difficult for people to approach a public
official with allegations of wrongdoing if people believe the
public official is less than resolute in addressing allegations of
wrongdoing," Lawrence said. "He has to set the right culture."

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Blagojevich remains resolute.

"It's whether you did things right or wrong. Clearly, Gov. Ryan
did things wrong," Blagojevich said recently. "A jury of his peers
found that he did wrongdoing. And now the sad reality is that
he is facing the consequences of that wrongdoing."

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11-09-2007 03:20 AM

Navigatr1 U.S. Supreme Court urged to reject former Gov. George Ryan's appeal
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U.S. Supreme Court urged to reject former Gov. George


Ryan's appeal
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...1,7061054.story
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Location: Tribune staff report
Posts: 31403
April 27, 2008

Former Gov. George Ryan's complaints about the jurors who


convicted him of fraud in 2006 are misguided and do not warrant a
review by the U.S. Supreme Court, federal prosecutors said in court
papers filed Friday.

In a 21-page brief filed with the court in Washington, U.S. Solicitor


Gen. Paul Clement urged the nation's highest court to refuse to
hear Ryan's appeal.

In a petition filed in January, Ryan's lawyers urged the Supreme


Court to hear his case, arguing that Ryan's six-month trial was
marred by unprecedented juror controversies.

Ryan is serving a 6 1/2-year sentence at a federal prison camp in


Terre Haute, Ind. The petition represents his last chance to
overturn his sweeping fraud conviction and get a new trial.

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Ryan's attorneys, including former Gov. James Thompson, argued


that a federal judge erred by removing two jurors during
deliberations after the Tribune reported they had concealed arrest
records during jury selection.

One juror later was found to be a holdout for Ryan.

A jury convicted Ryan of steering millions of dollars in state


business to lobbyist Lawrence Warner and other friends in return
for vacations, gifts and other benefits to Ryan and his family.

The nation's highest court agrees to hear only about 2 percent of


criminal appeals.

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04-27-2008 08:26 AM

GC Marciano Durbin to seek commutation for fmr. Gov. George Ryan


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Dec 1, 6:21 PM EST

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...EMPLATE=DEFAULT

CHICAGO (AP) -- Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin asked President Bush


on Monday to consider commuting former Gov. George Ryan's 6
1/2-year racketeering sentence to time served, standing firm on
his appeal for mercy despite an outpouring of criticism.

Registered: Jul 2003 "This action would not pardon him of his crimes or remove the
Location: Chicago, Illinois record of his conviction, but it would allow him to return to his
Posts: 9967 wife and family for their remaining years," the Democratic
senator said in a letter asking Bush to free the former
Republican governor from prison.

Durbin told reporters he was moved by the plight of Ryan's


wife, Lura Lynn, who is in ill health and needs her husband by

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her side.

"I am asking for mercy for the husband of a woman I admire


very much," he said.

Ryan, 74, a one-term governor, was convicted in 2006 of


racketeering, fraud and other offenses, and has served one year
of his federal prison sentence. It is customary for an outgoing
president to issue pardons and commute sentences before
leaving office, and Ryan is pinning his hopes for early release on
Bush.

Durbin is adding his voice to others who have called for Ryan's
freedom, including Gov. Rod Blagojevich. In his letter, Durbin
described Ryan's circumstances in dismal terms.

"He has lost his state pension benefits and a commutation will
not restore them," Durbin said. "He would emerge from prison
facing economic uncertainty at an advanced stage of his life."

Durbin said last week that he was considering such an appeal to


Bush, triggering criticism in editorial pages and elsewhere
around the state.

Patrick M. Collins, who was chief prosecutor at the Ryan trial,


said commuting a sentence should be reserved for
extraordinary cases.

"My question is, what is the extraordinary circumstance we


have here?" Collins said. "Yes, we have an elderly defendant,
but that doesn't distinguish Mr. Ryan from many other people in
the federal prison population."

Ryan was convicted of taking part in a coverup of bribes paid in


return for truck drivers licenses when he was Illinois secretary
of state in the 1990s, using state employees to run his
campaigns and steering contracts to lobbyist and cronies.

The investigation began in large part because of a November


1994 expressway tragedy outside Milwaukee in which a heavy
mudguard-taillight assembly fell off a truck and ended up under
a van driven by the Rev. Scott Willis of Chicago. It ignited the
van's gas tank, which exploded and killed six Willis children.

The truck driver took the Fifth Amendment against self-


incrimination when asked how he got his license. But his boss
testified that he bought licenses wholesale from a woman who
admitted donating bribe money to the Citizens for Ryan
campaign fund.

The investigation found that such bribery was widespread and


applicants were able to get licenses without passing the road
safety test.

Ryan disbanded the secretary of state's unit that was

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investigating driver license bribery in the wake of the Willis


tragedy after his top aide, Scott Fawell, urged him to get rid of
agents who asked questions about political fundraising.

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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12-02-2008 01:04 AM

GC Marciano Durbin seeks commutation for fmr. Gov. George Ryan


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Associated Press - December 1, 2008 3:14 PM ET

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=9439393

CHICAGO (AP) - U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin has asked the president
to commute former Gov. George Ryan's corruption sentence.

Durbin on Monday released a letter he sent asking President


George W. Bush to "consider commuting the sentence of
Registered: Jul 2003 George Ryan to time served."
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Ryan has served one year of a 6 1/2-year sentence for
racketeering, fraud and other offenses.

Durbin has said the former governor has paid a price for his
crimes by losing his government pension, having his family
name ruined and being separated from his frail wife.

The Chicago Sun-Times on Monday published an open


letter to Durbin from Ryan juror Kevin Rein. Rein
contends commuting Ryan's sentence "will take away a
little more of the faith that the average American has in
this country."

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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12-02-2008 01:06 AM

GC Marciano Attorney General says Ryan's sentence shouldn't be


Copwatcher Extraordinaire commuted
Associated Press - December 4, 2008 5:14 PM ET

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=9459320

CHICAGO (AP) - Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan says the


deaths of 6 children from one family are reason enough for
former Gov. George Ryan's 6 1/2-year racketeering sentence
not to be commuted.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Ryan has served one year of his 6 1/2-year sentence and has
Posts: 9967 asked President Bush to commute the remainder.

Madigan reminded reporters today that the bribery scandal


involving Ryan's tenure as secretary of state led to the
deaths.

Among other things, Ryan was convicted of killing an


investigation of bribes paid for truck driver's licenses.

In November 1994 a part fell off a truck belonging to a driver


with an illegal Illinois license. The part hit the gas tank of a van
that exploded, killing six children in the Willis family.

Ryan has repeatedly said the Willis tragedy wasn't his


fault.

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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12-08-2008 08:36 AM

GC Marciano George Ryan's wife and lawyer appeal to Obama


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Associated Press
9:53 p.m. CST, February 17, 2010

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,7729779.story

CHICAGO - Imprisoned former Gov. George Ryan's wife and


lawyer say they are seeking clemency from President Barack
Obama, citing health reasons for seeking Ryan's early release.

Registered: Jul 2003 Ryan's 75-year-old wife, Lura Lynn, has a terminal lung disease
Location: Chicago, Illinois and says she now is on oxygen 24 hours a day.
Posts: 9967
And Ryan's attorney, former Gov. Jim Thompson, says Ryan
himself has health problems, including kidney disease and
infected teeth.

Ryan, who was sent to a federal prison in Indiana after his 2006
conviction on corruption charges, turns 76 next Wednesday.

In a telephone interview Wednesday with the Chicago Tribune,


Lura Lynn Ryan confirmed she had made a previous plea for
clemency for her imprisoned husband in 2008 by calling then-
President George W. Bush's mother, former first lady Barbara
Bush. She said she was unsuccessful.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano Barack Obama pressed to free George Ryan from prison


Copwatcher Extraordinaire February 17, 2010 10:10 PM

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...obref=obnetwork

As part of the ongoing campaign to win an early prison release


for former Gov. George Ryan, his wife and lawyer said
Wednesday that they are seeking clemency from President
Barack Obama, citing the couples' declining health.

Registered: Jul 2003 Lura Lynn Ryan, 75, who has a terminal lung disease, said that
Location: Chicago, Illinois she is on oxygen 24 hours a day. While she still talks to her
Posts: 9967 husband daily, "it's not like having him here," she said.
"Knowing that I may have a limited time makes it harder."

Ryan, in federal prison in Indiana for more than two years, also
has health problems, including kidney disease and infected
teeth, his lawyer, former Gov. Jim Thompson said. Ryan, sent
to prison after his 2006 conviction on corruption charges, turns
76 next Wednesday.

Lura Lynn Ryan confirmed she had made a previous plea for
clemency for her imprisoned husband in 2008 by calling then-
President George W. Bush's mother, former first lady Barbara
Bush. "She was not able to be helpful," Ryan said in a telephone
interview from her Kankakee home.

Ryan previously acknowledged penning a short note to


President Bush that then-U.S. Rep. Ray LaHood hand-delivered
to a presidential aide. In the note, she reminded him of what
she characterized as a long friendship between their two
families and spoke of her husband's efforts to help both the
president and his father win election to the White House.

The approach, described as a "desperate plea" by the couple's


son, George Ryan Jr., was not successful.

The Ryan family is hoping Obama's familiarity with Ryan will


bolster his clemency chances.

Obama "certainly knows George well. He worked with him in the


legislature," Lura Lynn Ryan said. "I hope and pray that the
president will see it in his heart to sign the release form.
(George) doesn't belong where he is at this time."

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Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, Ryan's strongest advocate in his


clemency petition presented to Bush, has not renewed his
support since Obama took office.

On Wednesday, the Tribune also obtained copies of letters


George Ryan Jr. wrote to Bush on his father's behalf.

In one hand-written letter, Ryan asked Bush to "please do this


for my mom." In a June 2008 letter, he noted that it was his
parents' 52nd wedding anniversary and that there was a "real
possibility that she may not ever see him and hold him again in
a private setting." He asked Bush to "find it in his heart to let
him come home."

Those letters were sent before Ryan's official petition for


commutation was filed with the Office of the U.S. Pardon
Attorney. That Justice Department division reviews cases and
makes a recommendation to the White House. Thompson filed a
supplemental request with the Obama administration in
November, hoping Ryan could be home in time for Christmas,
he said.

"There's nothing to be gained by keeping him another (three)


years," Thompson said of Ryan, who is scheduled to be released
in 2013. "He's already been punished, they are penniless, and
Mrs. Ryan has a very life-threatening illness. We're not asking
for a pardon, just a release."

Further complicating Ryan's chances were the impeachment and


ouster of Gov. Rod Blagojevich and his pending federal
corruption trial, Thompson said.

"When (Obama) considers Gov. Ryan's petition, I hope he will


look at the facts in the petition," Thompson said. "I don't think
he will do anything simply because he's from Illinois. I don't
think that will cut any ice. He'll determine it solely on whether
he will extend mercy to an elderly man who has lost everything
and whose wife is gravely ill."

Obama has yet to exercise executive clemency -- granting


either pardons or commutations of sentences to the convicted.
Thousands of applications are pending at the Justice
Department.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme

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Copwatcher Extraordinaire BY MIKE ROBINSON, The Associated Press
Friday, February 19, 2010 12:53 pm

http://www.thesouthern.com/news/loc...1cc4c03286.html

CHICAGO (AP) - The Illinois Supreme Court on Friday dashed


former Gov. George Ryan's hopes of salvaging at least part of
his state pension, saying his racketeering and fraud conviction
made him ineligible for any of the money.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois The high court said in a 6-1 decision that state law "plainly
Posts: 9967 mandates that none of the benefits provided for under the
system shall be paid to Ryan."

"The forfeiture, in other words, is total," said the 23-page


decision written by Justice Bob Thomas. "Ryan gets nothing."

"As the victims of Ryan's crimes, the taxpayers of the


State of Illinois are under no obligation now to fund his
retirement," the decision said.

Supreme Court Justice Anne M. Burke dissented, saying she


understood "the very human impulse to want to punish Ryan for
his wrongdoings by depriving him of all of his pension benefits."
But she said that in her view, the majority broke with a
previous decision in a similar but unrelated case, and as "an
unjustified departure from precedent I cannot join it."

The high court's decision overturned a previous Illinois


Appellate Court ruling that would have left the former governor
with at least a partial pension.

After his conviction in April 2006, the General Assembly


Retirement System suspended Ryan's pension of $197,037 a
year. Ryan's attorneys argued that he should get a partial
pension of $60,000 a year, earned while he served as a
member of the state House and as Illinois lieutenant governor.

Ryan was not convicted of engaging in any wrongdoing while in


those offices.

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The former governor, who will be 76 on Wednesday, is serving


a 6½-year federal prison sentence at the federal prison at Terre
Haute, Ind. He is expected to be released in July 2013, but
Ryan's attorney, former Illinois Gov. James R. Thompson, and
wife, Lura Lynn, have said they will ask President Obama to
release him early because she is ill and needs him home.

Thompson said Thursday in a telephone interview the decision


was "very disappointing" but there appeared to be nothing more
that could be done to secure a pension for him. "This is the
end," Thompson said.

"I agree with Justice Burke that they've changed the law," he
said.

At his tumultuous six-month trial, Ryan was convicted of


racketeering, conspiracy, tax fraud and making false statements
to the FBI when he was secretary of state and later governor
from 1999 to 2003.

Prosecutors presented evidence that thousands of dollars in


bribes paid in exchange for commercial drivers licenses ended
up in Ryan's campaign fund. They also claimed that when state
investigators from the office of the Secretary of State's
inspector general began to look into the payoffs and the
campaign fund, Ryan had his aides dismantle the inspector
general's office.

Ryan also used state employees and taxpayer money to operate


his campaigns while steering lucrative state contracts to cronies
who showered him with gifts, prosecutors claimed. Ryan's
attorneys maintained that he had violated no laws.

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Vundering Govs. George Ryan and Otto Kerner Jr. didn’t deserve pensions (IL)
Senior Member

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...urt-george-ryan
Registered: Oct 2009
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Crooked politicians are entitled to 0

Illinois politicians like Govs. George Ryan and Otto Kerner Jr.
didn’t deserve pensions

March 01, 2010|By Mike Lawrence

The scene: the '70s sears anew; resurrected by an Illinois Supreme


Court decision rebuffing former Illinois Gov. George Ryan's bid for
tax-funded retirement benefits.

In an austere hearing room across the way from the dome-topped


building where he once presided, ex-Illinois governor and ex-con
Otto Kerner Jr. pleads for his pension. His voice is raspy. He rubs
his fingers in response to the burning sensations caused by
treatment for the lung cancer that soon will take his life. His wife is
deceased. Kerner is, in reality, seeking survivor benefits for his
children.

Disgraced and debilitated, his dignity in a humiliating circumstance


summons memories of an urbane governor educated in the Ivy
League, decorated for World War II service in Africa as executive
officer to future Gen. William Westmoreland, elected and re-elected,
tapped to head a presidential commission that forthrightly
addressed racism in America after the urban riots of the late 1960s,
eventually installed as a U.S. Appellate Court judge.

But his education, military record and rise to prominence did not
matter on this day or in the ensuing litigation.

Two years after Kerner donned judicial robes, federal investigators


became convinced he had abused his power as governor by
accepting stock at a bargain rate from a racetrack owner seeking
favors from his administration. When a jury convicted him for
bribery, perjury and tax evasion, his annuity and concomitant
benefits were put at risk.

Kerner did not prevail despite the pathos. Neither did his children.
After his death, the Illinois Supreme Court reviewed the situation
and stood firmly in 1978 behind a law barring public pensions for
those who betray the public's trust.

Now it has reaffirmed that stance with respect to another former


governor who also has suffered mightily for his transgressions.

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GC Marciano Gov. Rod Blagojevich arrested by federal agents


Copwatcher Extraordinaire

Just received information that Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich has


been arrested and taken into federal custody at his Chicago
home this morning.

The U.S. attorney's office has not confirm the information, and
a spokesman for the governor did not return a phone call for
comment.
Registered: Jul 2003 More on this as it becomes available.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
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12-09-2008 11:30 AM

GC Marciano First Media release supporting this:


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
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Illinois Gov. Reportedly Taken into Custody

http://www.abajournal.com/news/illi...n_into_custody/

Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich has reportedly been taken into


federal custody at his Chicago home.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois A source told the Chicago Tribune about Blagojevich’s apparent
Posts: 9967 arrest, but the U.S. attorney’s office did not confirm the report.

Blagojevich’s administration has been the subject of a three-


year investigation of pay-to-play politics. The expanding probe
also includes questions surrounding the selection of a
replacement for Barack Obama, the Tribune says.

Federal authorities have tape recorded Blagojevich


conversations as part of their probe, the newspaper says. At a
press conference Monday, Blagojevich said his discussions were
“always lawful.”

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"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
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12-09-2008 11:32 AM

GC Marciano Source: Feds take Gov. Blagojevich into custody


Copwatcher Extraordinaire December 9, 2008 at 8:26 AM

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...to-custody.html

A source said today that Gov. Rod Blagojevich was taken into
federal custody at his North Side home this morning. The U.S.
attorney's office would not confirm the information.

A Blagojevich spokesman said he was unaware of the


Registered: Jul 2003 development. "Haven't heard anything -- you are first to call,"
Location: Chicago, Illinois Lucio Guerrero said in an e-mail.
Posts: 9967
The stunning, early morning visit by authorities to the
governor's North Side home came amid revelations that federal
investigators had recorded the governor with the cooperation of
a longtime confidant and had begun to focus on the possibility
that the process of choosing a Senate successor to President-
elect Barack Obama could be tainted by pay-to-play politics.

Blagojevich was taken into custody hours after the


Tribune reported that the investigation into allegations of
pay-to-play politics within his administration had been
expanded to include his pending choice of a Senate
replacement for Obama. The Democratic governor has said
he expects to make a decision on the state's next senator in
weeks.

Sources told the Tribune that investigators intensified their


investigation into Blagojevich amid concerns that the process of
choosing a new senator could be tainted. The actions by federal
authorities came a day before Blagojevich's 52nd birthday.

The Tribune previously disclosed that federal investigators had


recordings of Blagojevich. Those recordings were aided by the
cooperation of longtime Blagojevich confidant and former
congressional chief of staff John Wyma.

On Monday, Blagojevich said he has done nothing wrong in his


stewardship of the state and challenged critics to record him
because his discussions were "always lawful."

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
authority to bind Copwatch or to act on its behalf. My opinions, ideas,
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12-09-2008 11:35 AM

GC Marciano Feds take Gov. Blagojevich into custody


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Blagojevich's Senate selection process investigated -
Federal probe widens to Obama's vacant seat

By Jeff Coen, David Kidwell and Monique Garcia | Tribune staff


reporters
8:20 AM CST, December 9, 2008

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,7997804.story

Registered: Jul 2003 A source said today that Gov. Rod Blagojevich was taken into
Location: Chicago, Illinois federal custody at his North Side home this morning. The U.S.
Posts: 9967 attorney's office would not confirm the information, and a
spokesman for the governor did not immediately return a phone
call for comment. Click here for the latest updates.

A three-year federal corruption investigation of pay-to-play


politics in Gov. Rod Blagojevich's administration has expanded
to include his impending selection of a new U.S. senator to
succeed President-elect Barack Obama, the Tribune has learned.

Federal authorities got approval from a judge before the


November general election to secretly record the governor,
sources told the Tribune, and among their concerns was
whether the selection process might be tainted. That possibility
has become a focus in an intensifying investigation that has
included recordings of the governor and the cooperation of one
of his closest friends.

The governor has not been accused of any wrongdoing. The


specific contents of the recent recordings have not been
disclosed. Blagojevich has said the appointment of a Senate
successor, which is his choice alone, could come in a matter of
weeks.

Speaking to reporters Monday for the first time since the

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Tribune revealed federal investigators had recorded him and


others as part of their corruption probe, Blagojevich said his
discussions were "always lawful." He also defended close
confidant John Wyma, whose cooperation with federal agents
helped lead to the recordings, as "an honest person who's
conducted himself in an honest way."

"I should say if anybody wants to tape my conversations, go


right ahead, feel free to do it," he said. "I appreciate anybody
who wants to tape me openly and notoriously, and those who
feel like they want to sneakily, and wear taping devices, I would
remind them that it kind of smells like Nixon and Watergate."

Unlike the recordings that the federal government has of


Blagojevich, the tapes that led to President Richard Nixon's
1974 resignation over the burglary of Democratic offices at the
Watergate complex and the ensuing coverup were made by
Nixon himself.

Regardless of "whether you tape me privately or publicly, I can


tell you that whatever I say is always lawful and the things I'm
interested in are always lawful," Blagojevich said. "And if there
are any things out there like that, what you'll hear is a governor
who tirelessly and endlessly figures out ways to help average,
ordinary working people."

Blagojevich's comments came amid increasing concern by


Democrats that the governor's pending appointment of a
Senate successor may become politically tainted as a result of
the investigations surrounding his administration. Federal
investigators have been looking into allegations of corruption
regarding state jobs, appointments and contracts in connection
with Blagojevich's prolific fundraising.

Blagojevich has not been charged with any wrongdoing and


contended that if federal investigators areƒs "going to those
lengths and extents [of obtaining recordings], if in fact that's
true, that would suggest all the past has been pretty good."

"I don't believe there's any cloud that hangs over me. I think
there's nothing but sunshine hanging over me," the governor
said.

Blagojevich made the remarks at a Monday morning visit to laid-


off workers staging a sit-in at the Republic Windows & Doors
plant on Goose Island.

Later Monday, he met for 90 minutes with Rep. Jesse Jackson


Jr., the South Side and southwest suburban congressman who
has been the most visibly active campaigner for the
appointment to replace Obama. Jackson, who was among the
last high-profile Senate successor candidates to speak with
Blagojevich, has had disagreements with the governor and is
not close to him.

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Blagojevich issued a strong defense of Wyma and accused the


Tribune of publishing misinformation and possibly defamatory
material.

"To begin with, they didn't get it right," he said. "John Wyma's
lawyer put out a statement. The Tribune was wrong and very
well may have defamed him."

But the statement from Wyma's lawyer did not directly address
the Tribune story and instead appeared directed at media
outlets and others who reported Wyma wore a wire.

The Tribune noted that Wyma's cooperation with federal


investigators helped lead to recordings of Blagojevich but did
not report that he wore a wire.

Wyma's lawyer also did not respond to the Tribune's report that
Wyma was cooperating with investigators. "John Wyma is a
friend of mine, he was my chief of staff, and I'm sure whatever
he does, he does ethically and follows the rules," the governor
said.

Blagojevich said he would not remove Wyma from his inner


circle of advisers. He also told the Tribune that Wyma was not
involved in the deliberations over an Obama successor. "No, I
consider him a friend. and I don't consider him as anything but
a friend. And to someone who, as I've known him, always has
been an honest person who's conducted himself in an honest
way," Blagojevich said of Wyma. "That's the John Wyma I know
and it's the John Wyma that [Obama's incoming chief of staff,
Rep.] Rahm Emanuel knows and a lot of other people know."

Blagojevich said he had last spoken to Wyma the day before


Thanksgiving, when he offered holiday wishes and "talked a
little bit about the plight of the Detroit Lions. He's from
Michigan."

And the governor indicated he was not concerned about Wyma


cooperating with federal investigators. "Look, I believe
everybody should just tell the truth and pursue the truth and be
truthful and then you do that and everything's fine," he said.

__________________

"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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12-09-2008 11:39 AM

GC Marciano CONFIRMED:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Ill. Governor Arrested On Federal Charges

http://cbs13.com/national/illinois....d.2.883157.html

CHICAGO (CBS) ― Governor Rod Blagojevich was taken


into federal custody at his home this morning, the U.S.
attorney's office said.

Registered: Jul 2003 The charges have not been released.


Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Federal agents made undercover tape recordings of Gov. Rod
Blagojevich with the help of one of his closest advisers,
according to a published report issued Friday.

The Chicago Tribune reported that former Blagojevich aide John


Wyma helped with an investigation that led to tapings of
Blagojevich and others.

Wyma was Blagojevich's chief of staff when the governor was


representing the Illinois' 5th District in Congress, and his name
has been tied to aspects of the federal investigation, including a
recent subpoena.

In October, federal prosecutors subpoenaed records from


Provena Hospital regarding Wyma's work for the hospital.
Wyma was registered to represent Provena when it got approval
from the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board in April 2004 to
proceed with development of an open-heart surgery unit.

The federal subpoena sought information on the hospital's push


for state approval of the heart program and a $25,000 donation
the company's for-profit affiliate gave to Blagojevich's campaign
fund.

In 2005, Wyma was involved in a real estate deal with the


governor's wife, Patricia Blagojevich, who has a home-based
real estate company. Wyma client Mark Wight sold a $650,000
condominium to Wyma, paying the first lady a $30,000
commission. Wight's architecture firm later won $10 million in
no-bid state contracts for tollway work.

Investigators are looking into allegations of corruption,

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involving Blagojevich and the Health Facilities Planning Board,


as well as the Teachers Retirement System. The investigation
has been going on for several years, and initially, Blagojevich
dismissed the claims. But the probe later resulted in the
indictment and conviction of Antoin "Tony" Rezko, Blagojevich's
chief political fundraiser.

In another development, FBI agents searched two Joliet


businesses owned by Harish Bhatt, a longtime Blagojevich
supporter.

Agents descended upon Basinger and Essington pharmacies


early in the morning and combed through paperwork. The FBI
would only say it's part of an ongoing federal investigation.

Bhatt told reporters agents weren't looking into him, adding,


"We have nothing to do with it."

Last year, the Tribune named Bhatt as being part of an ongoing


investigation into Blagojevich's administration. The paper
reported state police were looking into whether Bhatt solicited
campaign donations in exchange for state favors.

Bhatt and Blagojevich go back years. Bhatt has raised


thousands of dollars for the governor. And just this year,
another Blagojevich fundraiser, Antoin "Tony" Rezko, was
convicted on pay-to-play corruption charges.

CBS station WBBM-TV in Chicago reported two months ago that


federal investigators believe they have enough evidence to
charge the governor with tax fraud, conspiracy and obstruction
of justice.

A Blagojevich spokesperson says there is no indication the Joliet


raids have anything to do with the governor's administration, so
he is issuing no formal comment.

A decision to file criminal charges, though, will not be made by


the FBI and IRS agents currently crawling all over the
governor's personal and political affairs. Before a sitting
governor can be charged, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald will
need to get a green light from his Justice Department superiors
in Washington.

__________________

"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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12-09-2008 11:42 AM

GC Marciano Illinois governor, chief of staff arrested by Federal agents


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation...ch-arrest_N.htm

CHICAGO (AP) — Authorities in Chicago have arrested Ill. Gov.


Rod Blagojevich on federal charges.

U.S. Attorney's office spokesman Randall Samborn says


both Blagojevich and his chief of staff John Harris were
arrested Tuesday. Authorities aren't yet releasing details
Registered: Jul 2003 about those charges.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Federal prosecutors have investigated Blagojevich's
administration for at least three years. They've been looking at
everything from how he hired people for state jobs to the
actions of friends and contributors.

Blagojevich fundraiser Tony Rezko awaits sentencing on a


federal corruption conviction in which he was charged with
shaking down businesses wanting to do state work for campaign
contributions.

The governor has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing.

__________________

"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
authority to bind Copwatch or to act on its behalf. My opinions, ideas,
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12-09-2008 11:53 AM

GC Marciano New information says the Governor was caught on tape by FBI
Copwatcher Extraordinaire agents undercover recordings as he tried to sell, auction off or
trade Barack Obama's newly-vacated senate seat.

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12-09-2008 11:58 AM

MGMAN Well maybe he will share a cell with the last Gov. I wonder if the Lt
Senior Member Gov will be better.

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Mr Officer, The US Constitution is NOT just a formality, or something to sidestep!


When your butt is on the line the first thing you do is scream about “due process”
and the “rule of law”, how about extending this to the general public!

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, yet expecting different results."

Members of the NCIS (Narcotics Criminal Investigation and Suppression team)


that work in Stephens, Habersham and Rabun Counties in North East Georgia are
murderers! They killed a man in cold blood!!
Registered: Jan 2008 DO NOT talk to cops, they are NOT your friend, and NOTHING good can come
Location: Peoples Rebublik of from it. You have the right to stay silent, DO IT!
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Posts: 1131 Furor fit laesa saepius patientia

Militamus sub spe.

Prius mori quam fidem fallere

Quietem nemo impune lacesset.

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12-09-2008 12:34 PM

liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by MGMAN

I wonder if the Lt Gov will be better.

Since the Lt. Gov is a Demopublican/Republicrat just like the


governor, the "new" gubernatorial administration will just be
MOSS (i.e., more of the same shit). Look for this clown to be
Registered: Jun 2005
indicted for corruption at some point down the line too.
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12-09-2008 12:37 PM

GC Marciano Ill. Gov. arrested in Obama successor probe


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By MIKE ROBINSON, Associated Press Writer Mike Robinson,
Associated Press Writer

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081209...orruption_probe

CHICAGO – Federal authorities arrested Illinois Gov. Rod


Blagojevich Tuesday on charges that he brazenly conspired
to sell or trade the U.S. Senate seat left vacant by
President-elect Barack Obama to the highest bidder.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Blagojevich also was charged with illegally threatening to
Posts: 9967 withhold state assistance to Tribune Co., the owner of
the Chicago Tribune, in the sale of Wrigley Field, according
to a federal criminal complaint. In return for state

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assistance, Blagojevich allegedly wanted members of the


paper's editorial board who had been critical of him fired.

A 76-page FBI affidavit said the 51-year-old Democratic


governor was intercepted on court-authorized wiretaps over the
last month conspiring to sell or trade the vacant Senate
seat for personal benefits for himself and his wife, Patti.

Otherwise, Blagojevich considered appointing himself. The


affidavit said that as late as Nov. 3, he told his deputy
governor that if "they're not going to offer me anything
of value I might as well take it."

"I'm going to keep this Senate option for me a real possibility,


you know, and therefore I can drive a hard bargain,"
Blagojevich allegedly said later that day, according to the
affidavit, which also quoted him as saying in a remark
punctuated by profanity that the seat was "a valuable thing —
you just don't give it away for nothing."

The affidavit said Blagojevich also discussed getting a


substantial salary for himself at a nonprofit foundation or
an organization affiliated with labor unions.

It said Blagojevich also talked about getting his wife placed on


corporate boards where she might get $150,000 a year in
director's fees.

He also allegedly discussed getting campaign funds for himself


or possibly a post in the president's cabinet or an
ambassadorship once he left the governor's office. He noted
becoming a U.S. senator might remake his image for a
possible presidential run in 2016, according to the affidavit.
And he allegedly said a Senate seat would also provide him with
corporate contacts if he needed a job and present an
opportunity for his wife to work as a lobbyist.

"I want to make money," the affidavit quotes him as


saying in one conversation.

The affidavit said Blagojevich expressed frustration at being


"stuck" as governor and that he would have access to greater
resources if he were indicted while in the U.S. Senate than
while sitting as governor.

U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald said in a statement that "the


breadth of corruption laid out in these charges is staggering."

"They allege that Blagojevich put a for sale sign on the naming
of a United States senator," Fitzgerald said."

Among those being considered for the post include U.S. Reps.
Danny Davis and Jesse Jackson Jr.

Blagojevich also was charged with using his authority as

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governor in an attempt to squeeze out campaign contributions.

His chief of staff, John Harris, also was arrested.

Corruption in the Blagojevich administration has been the focus


of a federal investigation involving an alleged $7 million scheme
aimed at squeezing kickbacks out of companies seeking
business from the state. Federal prosecutors have
acknowledged they're also investigating "serious allegations of
endemic hiring fraud" under Blagojevich.

Political fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko who raised money for


the campaigns of both Blagojevich and Obama is awaiting
sentencing after being convicted of fraud and other charges.
Blagojevich's chief fundraiser, Christopher G. Kelly, is due to
stand trial early next year on charges of obstructing the Internal
Revenue Service.

According to Tuesday's complaint, Blagojevich schemed with


Rezko, millionaire-fundraiser turned federal witness Stuart
Levine and others to get financial benefits for himself and his
campaign committee.

Federal prosecutors said Blagojevich and the chairman of


his campaign committee have been speeding up corrupt
fundraising activities in the last month to get as much
money as possible before the end of the year when a new
law would curtail his ability to raise contributions from
companies with state contracts worth more than $50,000.

According to the affidavit, agents learned Blagojevich was


seeking $2.5 million in campaign contributions by the end of the
year, with a large part allegedly to come from companies and
individuals who have gotten state contracts or appointments.

Blagojevich took the chief executive's office in 2003 as a


reformer promising to clean up former Gov. George
Ryan's mess.

Ryan, a Republican, is serving a 6-year prison sentence after


being convicted on racketeering and fraud charges. A decade-
long investigation began with the sale of driver's licenses for
bribes and led to the conviction of dozens of people who worked
for Ryan when he was secretary of state and governor.

FBI spokesman Frank Bochte said federal agents arrested the


governor and Harris simultaneously at their homes at 6:15 a.m.
and took them to the Chicago FBI headquarters.

Bochte said he did not know if either man was handcuffed or if


the governor's family was their North Side home at the time of
his arrest. He did say Blagojevich and Harris both were given
time to get dressed before being taken to the headquarters.

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He also did not have any details about Blagojevich's arrest, only
that he was cooperative with federal agents.

"It was a very calm setting," he said.

The governor was to appear later Tuesday before U.S.


Magistrate Judge Nan Nolan to answer the charges. The time
was not immediately set.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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12-09-2008 01:14 PM

GC Marciano Illinois GOP leader says Blagojevich should resign


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Associated Press
8:45 AM CST, December 9, 2008

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,3350606.story

CHICAGO - Illinois Republican Party Chairman Andy McKenna is


calling on Gov. Rod Blagojevich to resign immediately now that
he's facing federal corruption charges.

Registered: Jul 2003 McKenna issued a statement hours after Blagojevich's arrest.
Location: Chicago, Illinois He says the GOP is urging state lawmakers to act quickly
Posts: 9967 to impeach Blagojevich if the Democrat doesn't resign.

McKenna says Blagojevich also must not appoint a U.S. senator


"under this cloud of extremely serious allegations." The
governor has the power to appoint President-elect Barack
Obama's replacement in the Senate.

McKenna noted that those charged with crimes are presumed


innocent. But he says "the people's work should be placed
ahead of Governor Blagojevich's legal troubles."

Blagojevich was arrested at his home in Chicago on Tuesday.

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He's repeatedly denied any wrongdoing.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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12-09-2008 01:16 PM

GC Marciano Illinois Gov. Blagojevich charged with corruption


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Conspired to sell Senate seat, demanded editorialists be fired, U.
S. alleges
By Robert Schroeder, MarketWatch
Last update: 10:52 a.m. EST Dec. 9, 2008

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto...tory.aspx?guid=
{E74B5227-7D01-4267-83F4-8A1BD866CE0C}&dist=msr_1

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- U.S. agents arrested Illinois


Registered: Jul 2003 Gov. Rod Blagojevich and his chief of staff on Tuesday morning
Location: Chicago, Illinois on federal corruption charges related to the appointment of a
Posts: 9967
senator to succeed President-elect Barack Obama in the U.S.
Senate and a threat to withhold state assistance to the Tribune
Co.

On wiretaps, Blagojevich was intercepted conspiring to trade


the Senate seat, a former U.S. senator from Illinois, for
positions that Obama would have the power to appoint, or in
exchange for millions of dollars in funding for a non-profit
organization that Blagojevich would run, according to federal
charges.

At one point, Blagojevich complained that Obama's team


wasn't "willing to give me anything except appreciation"
in exchange for appointing Obama's preferred candidate.

As governor of Illinois, Blagojevich has the power to appoint a


successor for Obama in the Senate.

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Blagojevich, 51, and his chief of staff John Harris, 46,


were each charged with conspiracy to commit mail and
wire fraud and solicitation of bribery.

Calls intercepted by the FBI allegedly also show that


Blagojevich directed Harris to tell the owner of the
Chicago Tribune that state financial assistance for the
Chicago Cubs' Wrigley Field would be withheld unless
members of paper's editorial board were fired, primarily
because Blagojevich viewed them as driving discussion of
his possible impeachment.

Blagojevich, a Democrat, has been governor of Illinois since


January 2003.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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12-09-2008 01:23 PM

GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by GC505
Blagojevich complained that Obama's team
wasn't "willing to give me anything except
appreciation" in exchange for appointing
Obama's preferred candidate.

Registered: Jul 2003


Location: Chicago, Illinois The Obama campaign won't give him anything but appreciation?
Posts: 9967
How sad.

It's called a public SERVANT, not a public scam artist. I hope he


rots in jail with Imprisoned Gov. George Ryan. What a disgrace
to our state.

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__________________

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
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12-09-2008 01:25 PM

GC Marciano PDF Document Attached


Copwatcher Extraordinaire (122 kb)
A free PDF viewer may be obtained from Adobe
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

Here is a .pdf file containing the US Attorney General's Press


Release announcing the arrest of Gov. Blowjobitch:

Attachment: 10illinois_release.pdf
Registered: Jul 2003
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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12-09-2008 02:31 PM

GC Marciano PDF Document Attached


Copwatcher Extraordinaire (315 kb)
A free PDF viewer may be obtained from Adobe
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

Here is a copy of the sealed complaint:

Attachment: complaint.pdf
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 __________________

"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
authority to bind Copwatch or to act on its behalf. My opinions, ideas,
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12-09-2008 02:34 PM

GC Marciano Points of interest from the above two documents:


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Count One
From in or about 2002 to the present, in Cook County, in the
Northern District of Illinois, defendants did, conspire with each
other and with others to devise and participate in a scheme to
defraud the State of Illinois and the people of the State of
Illinois of the honest services of ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH and
JOHN HARRIS, in furtherance of which the mails and interstate
wire communications would be used, in violation of Title 18,
Registered: Jul 2003 United States Code, Sections 1341,1343, and 1346; all in
Location: Chicago, Illinois
violation of Title 18 United States Code, Section 1349.
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Count Two
Beginning no later than November 2008 to the present, in Cook
County, in the Northern District of Illinois, defendants ROD R.
BLAGOJEVICH and JOHN HARRIS, being agents of the State of
Illinois, a State government which during a one-year period,
beginning January 1, 2008 and continuing to the present,

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received federal benefits in excess of $10,000, corruptly


solicited and demanded a thing of value, namely, the firing of
certain Chicago Tribune editorial members responsible for
widely-circulated editorials critical of ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH,
intending to be influenced and rewarded in connection with
business and transactions of the State of Illinois involving a
thing of value of $5,000 or more, namely, the provision of
millions of dollars in financial assistance by the State of Illinois,
including through the Illinois Finance Authority, an agency of
the State of Illinois, to the Tribune Company involving the
Wrigley Field baseball stadium; in violation of Title 18, United
States Code, Sections 666(a)(1)(B) and 2.

And from the Press Release:

A 76-page FBI affidavit alleges that Blagojevich was intercepted


on court-authorized wiretaps during the last month conspiring
to sell or trade Illinois’ U.S. Senate seat vacated by President-
elect Barack Obama for financial and other personal benefits for
himself and his wife. At various times, in exchange for the
Senate appointment, Blagojevich discussed obtaining:

* a substantial salary for himself at a either a non-profit


foundation or an organization affiliated with labor unions;
* placing his wife on paid corporate boards where he speculated
she might garner as much as $150,000 a year;
* promises of campaign funds – including cash up front; and <
a cabinet post or ambassadorship for himself.

Just last week, on December 4, Blagojevich allegedly told an


advisor that he might "get some (money) up front, maybe"
from Senate Candidate 5, if he named Senate Candidate 5 to
the Senate seat, to insure that Senate Candidate 5 kept a
promise about raising money for Blagojevich if he ran for re-
election. In a recorded conversation on October 31, Blagojevich
claimed he was approached by an associate of Senate
Candidate 5 as follows: "We were approached 'pay to play.'
That, you know, he’d raise 500 grand. An emissary came. Then
the other guy would raise a million, if I made him (Senate
Candidate 5) a Senator."

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"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

All statements and opinions expressed are my personal opinions and are not
to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no

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12-09-2008 02:35 PM

liberranter I'll say this much in Blagojevich's favor: At least the scumbag is
Super Moderator open and honest about his selfish, corrupt motives. Actually,
I've noticed this from several Illinois politicians in the past. I
remember Dan "Stamps" Rostenkowski, when caught with his
hand in the Congressional Postal Service cookie jar years ago,
being wholly unapologetic and saying something to the effect of
"this is how we do things back in Chicago."

If only other corrupt, criminal scumbags were this candid...

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Posts: 5865 Thomas Jefferson

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the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
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GC Marciano Blagojevich released on own recognizance


Copwatcher Extraordinaire December 9th, 2008 03:35 PM ET

http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2008/1...n-recognizance/

CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) — Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich


appeared in court Tuesday afternoon to hear federal corruption
charges against him.

Bail was set at $4,500, and Blagojevich was then released


Registered: Jul 2003 on his own recognizance. The governor, who appeared in
Location: Chicago, Illinois court in a blue jogging suit, also had to forfeit his passport.
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FBI agents arrested Blagojevich and his chief of staff, John
Harris, early Tuesday morning on federal corruption charges
related in part to the selection of President-elect Barack
Obama’s successor, the U.S. attorney’s office said. They were
each charged with a count of conspiracy to commit mail and
wire fraud and a count of solicitation of bribery, authorities said.

The government says the two were "conspiring to obtain


personal financial benefits" for the Illinois governor by
leveraging his sole authority to appoint a U.S. senator to
replace Obama.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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GC Marciano Governor Blagojevich: In His Own Words


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
In October, federal investigators obtained permission to tap
Gov. Rod Blagojevich's home phone and phones at his
campaign office. Here is what Blagojevich was recorded as
saying, according to the federal complaint filed on Tuesday:

Efforts to obtain contributions from persons doing


business with the State of Illinois before the end of
the year:
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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According to public records maintained by the State of
Illinois, an unnamed engineering firm received in excess
of $10 million from the State of Illinois during each of
fiscal years 2004 through 2008. During one conversation
Blagojevich called a worker with the firm and said, "I
want to thank you again for your support and friendship
and we are going to do everything we can to get that
capital bill."

Efforts by Blagojevich and John Harris to hold up


the sale of Wrigley Field unless the Tribune fired
editorial board members:

Blagojevich said Tribune ownership should be told:


"Maybe we can't do this now. Fire those fuckers."

In a later conversation, Blagojevich says, the Tribune


should be told: "Everything is lined up, but before we go
to the next level we need to have a discussion about what
you guys are going to do about that newspaper."

Efforts to obtain personal benefits in return for U.S.


Senate appointment:

Blagojevich considered taking the job himself: "If ...


they're not going to offer anything of any value, then I
might just take it."

Later he says: "Unless I get something real good for


[Senate Candidate 1], shit, I'll just send myself, you know
what I'm saying. I'm going to keep this Senate option for
me a real possibility, you know, and therefore I can drive
a hard bargain. You hear what I'm saying.

"And if I don't get what I want and I'm not satisfied with
it, then I'll just take the Senate seat myself. [The Senate
seat] "is a fucking valuable thing, you just don't give it
away for nothing."

In a separate conversation, Blagojevich says: "I've got


this thing and it's fucking golden, and, uh, uh, I'm just
not giving it up for fuckin' nothing. I'm not gonna do it.
And, and I can always use it. I can parachute me there."

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Blagojevich also asked what he can get from President-


elect Obama for the Senate seat: "Can [the President-
elect] help in the private sector. . . where it wouldn't be
tied to him? . . .I mean, so it wouldn't necessarily look
like one for the other."

Blagojevich said that consultants (believed to be on the


call at that time) are telling him that he has to "suck it
up" for two years and do nothing and give this
"motherfucker [the President-elect] his senator. Fuck
him. For nothing? Fuck him."

__________________

"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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12-10-2008 01:27 AM

GC Marciano Obama: Gov. Blagojevich should resign


Copwatcher Extraordinaire President-elect believes governor can't serve effectively,
spokesman says

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28155450

CHICAGO - President-elect Barack Obama is calling for Illinois


Gov. Rod Blagojevich to resign, Obama spokesman Robert
Gibbs said Wednesday.

Registered: Jul 2003 Gibbs said Obama agrees with other prominent politicians that
Location: Chicago, Illinois "under the current circumstances, it is difficult for the governor
Posts: 9967 to effectively do his job and serve the people of Illinois."

Blagojevich, a Democrat, was arrested Tuesday, accused of


scheming to enrich himself by selling Obama's vacant Senate
seat. The governor has authority to appoint the replacement.
Blagojevich denies any wrongdoing.

In response to questions from The Associated Press, Gibbs said

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Obama believes the Illinois legislature should consider a special


election to fill the seat. Gibbs said the hope is to put a process
in place to select a new senator who will have the trust and
confidence of the people of Illinois.

Blagojevich returned to work on Wednesday, having posted


bond Tuesday. The governor left his home on Chicago's North
Side and waved to the media before quickly getting into a dark
SUV without talking to the reporters.

A short time later, he arrived at his office.

"He is still the sitting governor of Illinois today, now, and that is
not something we have any say in or control of," U.S. Attorney
Patrick Fitzgerald said in unveiling corruption charges on
Tuesday against the 52-year-old governor.

The governor's attorney, Sheldon Sorosky, said Tuesday he


didn't know of any immediate plans for the governor to resign.
Blagojevich believes he didn't do anything wrong and asks
Illinois residents to have faith in him, Sorosky said.

"I suppose we will have to go to trial," he said.

Chief of staff also charged

Charged along with Blagojevich was his 46-year-old chief of


staff, John Harris, who was accused of taking part in the
schemes to enrich the governor.

The FBI said in court papers that Blagojevich was overheard


conspiring to sell the Senate seat for campaign cash or lucrative
jobs for himself or his wife, a real estate agent. He spoke of
using the Senate appointment to land a job with a nonprofit
foundation or a union-affiliated group, and even held out hope
of getting named Obama's secretary of health and human
services or an ambassador.

The court papers cite Blagojevich talking about a Senate


"Candidate 5" sending an "emissary" to discuss the seat. On
Wednesday, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., through his attorney,
confirmed he is the previously unnamed "Candidate 5." Jackson
also issued a statement saying he had "no involvement
whatsoever in any wrongdoing."

Calls for special election

Blagojevich could conceivably still appoint someone to fill


Obama's seat despite the charges that he tried to barter it for
cash or a plum job in what Fitzgerald called "a political
corruption crime spree."

But pressure is growing for state lawmakers to call a special


election or for Blagojevich to resign.

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On Wednesday, NBC’s Ken Strickland reported that a letter was


being circulated for signatures among U.S. Senate Democrats
that "insists" Blagojevich resign from his post, "and under no
circumstance" make an appointment to fill the Senate seat.

"No appointment by this governor, under these circumstances,


could produce a credible replacement," U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin
said Tuesday after the governor, a second-term Democrat, was
arrested on charges of conspiring to commit fraud and soliciting
bribery.

Obama was not accused of any wrongdoing.

"I had no contact with the governor or his office, and so we


were not — I was not aware of what was happening," Obama
said Tuesday. "And as I said, it's a sad day for Illinois. Beyond
that, I don't think it's appropriate to comment."

Prosecutors stepped in and had the governor arrested because


he was on "what can only be called a political corruption crime
spree," Fitzgerald said.

__________________

"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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GC Marciano NAME: Milorad "Rod" R. Blagojevich


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"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
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state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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12-11-2008 03:11 PM

GC Marciano Blagojevich was bookie, says federal informant


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Wednesday, December 17, 2008 | 6:09 PM

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?se...ocal&id=6559104

The ABC7 I-Team has learned that an attorney who went


undercover for the FBI in the late 1980's says he told federal
authorities years ago about wrongdoing by Blagojevich.

His name is Robert Cooley.


Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Cooley was a criminal defense lawyer in Chicago in the late
Posts: 9967 1980's who became one of the most potent witnesses against
Chicago corruption, testifying for federal prosecutors in cases
that resulted in dozens of convictions.

Cooley says that before Rod Blagojevich got into politics he


was a bookmaker on the North Side who regularly paid
the Chicago mob to operate.

"When I was working with government wearing wire, I reported,


I observed Rod, the present governor, who was running a
gambling operation out in the western suburbs. He was paying
street tax to the mob out there," said Robert Cooley, federal
informant.

On a web-based interview show last week, Cooley said he


reported to federal authorities nearly two decades ago that Rod
Blagojevich had been operating an illegal sports gambling
business.

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Robert Cooley is a former Chicago police officer-turned mob


lawyer-turned federal informant.

During Operation Gambat in the late 1980's and early 1990's,


Cooley's undercover work and testimony put away 24 crooked
politicians, judges, lawyers and cops.

Several years ago, when Mr. Blagojevich was running for re-
election, Cooley provided the same information to the ABC7 I-
Team. Because Cooley did not want to be identified at the time
and the governor denied it, ABC7 did not report the story.

On Tuesday, Cooley spoke on the record.

He told ABC7 that Mr. Blagojevich regularly paid a so-called


street tax to Robert "Bobby the Boxer" Abbinanti, a convicted
outfit gambling collector. In the early 1980's, Abbinanti was
working for convicted West Side mob boss Marco D'amico.
Bookies pay street taxes to the crime syndicate in exchange for
being allowed to operate such a racket.

"I predicted five years ago when he ran the first time that
he was a hands on person who would be selling every
position in the state of Illinois and that it exactly what
happened," said Cooley.

Cooley, who secretly recorded conversations in a Counselor's


Row restaurant near City Hall which brought down the first ward
leadership, contends Illinois corruption is unstoppable.

"The biggest problem you have now and reason for what is
happening is that the people in power have money and ability to
silence the media so it will never be reported and as long as you
have that going on, you will never stop it," Cooley.

A spokesman for Governor Blagojevich said on Tuesday evening


that he cannot comment on Cooley, the bookmaking allegation
or the mob payoffs.

He referred us to the governor's criminal defense lawyer Ed


Genson. Mr. Genson says he is too busy right now to talk.

A spokesman for the United States attorney in Chicago said that


his office will have no comment.

__________________

"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme

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12-22-2008 03:20 PM

GC Marciano In 59-0 Vote, Blago Removed From Office


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Embattled Illinois Governor Ousted Despite Final Plea; Lt. Gov.
Quinn Takes Over Immediately

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009...e=mostpop_story

SPRINGFIELD, Ill., Jan. 29, 2009

(CBS/AP) Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich has been convicted at his


impeachment trial and thrown out of office.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois The vote in the Illinois Senate to convict him of abuse of power
Posts: 9967 was 59-0. In a separate vote, lawmakers voted 59-0 to to bar
Blagojevich from ever holding public office in Illinois.

Democratic Lt. Gov. Patrick Quinn automatically becomes the


new governor. He took the oath of office moments after the
vote to remove Blagojevich.

Quinn is a 60-year-old former state treasurer and tax attorney.


He is best known for his efforts to cut big government and
protect the little guy. One of the most pressing issues for him is
the state's deficit of more than $3 billion. (Read more about the
new governor.)

Before Blagojevich, no Illinois governor has been impeached, let


alone convicted in a Senate trial.

Blagojevich's removal comes nearly two months after his arrest


on charges of trying to sell Barack Obama's vacant Senate seat.
He becomes the first U.S. governor in more than 20 years to be
removed by impeachment.

After returning to his home in Chicago, Blagojevich addressed a


group of reporters saying he was "disappointed but not
surprised" by the senate's action.

He vowed to, "keep fighting to clear my name," and added:


"Give me a chance to show you that I haven't let you down."

"I love the people of Illinois today more than I ever have
before," he said. And in a joking reference to Chicago's history

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of crooked politics, he reached down to a boy in the crowd of


well-wishers and said: "I love you, man. You know, this is
Chicago. You can vote for me. You're old enough."

Blagojevich defended his record, saying he provided healthcare


and services to Illinois citizens without raising taxes.

He blamed the impeachment on political maneuvering and said


he looks forward to clearing his name when he appears in
federal court - likely sometime this spring.

Obama released a brief, written statement late Thursday. It


read: "Today ends a painful episode for Illinois. For months, the
state had been crippled by a crisis of leadership. Now that cloud
has lifted. I wish Governor Quinn the best and pledge my full
cooperation as he undertakes his new responsibilities."

Earlier Thursday, Blagojevich insisted that he had done nothing


wrong and should not be removed from office over unproven
criminal charges and complaints about his management
decisions.

His performance was by turns defiant and deferential, reports


CBS News correspondent Cynthia Bowers.

"You haven't proved a crime, and you can't because it didn't


happen," Blagojevich told senators. "How can you throw a
governor out of office with insufficient and incomplete
evidence?"

Later he pleaded, "How can you throw a governor out of office


who is clamoring and begging and pleading with you to give me
a chance?"

"He was calm, he was organized and he was a lot less feisty and
argumentative than he had been earlier in the week on all those
talk shows," said CBS News Legal Analyst Andrew Cohen. "His
appeal was simple: I may be a rough and tumble governor who
likes to cut through red tape, who pushes too hard, but my
motives were always good and my conduct was always legal.
That's a tough sell in politics or law."

Only a small part of Blagojevich's defense was dedicated to a


point-by-point rebuttal of the impeachment charges. Most of his
remarks focused on reminding senators that he came from
humble beginnings. He said his intentions were always good,
and he peppered his statement with anecdotes about struggling
constituents he has met.

He acknowledged the truth about his conduct is "maybe not


flattering in some cases," referring to the secretly recorded
conversations. But he said the tapes captured something that
"all of us in politics do in order to run campaigns and win
elections."

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"...we clearly saw a preview of the defense he'll offer in federal


court if and when he is indicted on those bribery and corruption
charges that led to his impeachment," said Cohen. "He's going
to say the evidence is weak, that what he did is what politicians
do, and that he had no criminal intent during all those alleged
pay for play phone calls."

Blagojevich arrived at the state Capitol while impeachment


prosecutor David Ellis delivered his own closing argument,
which included some of the secretly recorded conversations.

"Every decision this governor made was based on one of three


criteria: his legal situation, his personal situation and his
political situation," Ellis told lawmakers.

Today's verdict brought to an end what one lawmaker branded


"the freak show" in Illinois. Over the past few weeks,
Blagojevich found himself isolated, with almost the entire
political establishment lined up against him. The furor paralyzed
state government and made Blagojevich and his helmet of lush,
dark hair a punchline from coast to coast.

One lawmaker after another rose somberly on the Senate floor


to accuse Blagojevich of abusing his office and embarrassing
the state. They denounced him as a hypocrite, saying he
cynically tried to enrich himself and then posed as the brave
protector of the poor and "wrapped himself in the constitution"
by decrying the impeachment process as unfair.

Not a single legislator rose in Blagojevich's defense.

The verdict capped a head-spinning string of developments that


began less than two months ago. It was widely known that
federal prosecutors had been investigating Blagojevich's
administration for years - some of his closest cronies have
already been convicted - but his Dec. 9 arrest by the FBI caught
nearly everyone off guard.

U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald said prosecutors had no choice


but to step in and stop a political corruption "crime spree" - one
that was gaining speed before a tough new campaign finance
law took effect Jan. 1.

The most spectacular allegation was that Blagojevich had been


caught on wiretaps scheming to sell an appointment to Obama's
Senate seat for campaign cash or a plum job for himself or his
wife.

Prosecutors also said he illegally pressured people to make


campaign contributions and tried to get editorial writers fired
from the Chicago Tribune for badmouthing him in print.

Obama himself, fresh from his historic election victory, was

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forced to look into the matter and issued a report concluding


that no one in his inner circle had done anything wrong.

In the brash and often theatrical style that has infuriated fellow
politicians for years, Blagojevich repeatedly refused to resign,
reciting the poetry of Kipling and Tennyson and declaring at one
point last month: "I will fight. I will fight. I will fight until I take
my last breath. I have done nothing wrong."

Even as lawmakers were deciding whether to launch an


impeachment, Blagojevich defied the political establishment and
stunned everyone by appointing a former Illinois attorney
general, Roland Burris, to the very Senate seat he had been
accused of trying to sell. Top Democrats on Capitol Hill
eventually backed down and seated Burris.

Seven other U.S. governors have been removed by


impeachment, the most recent being Arizona's Evan Mecham,
who was driven from office in 1988 for trying to thwart an
investigation into a death threat allegedly made by an aide.

Blagojevich grew up in a working-class Chicago neighborhood,


the son of a Serbian immigrant steelworker. He graduated from
Northwestern University and earned a law degree from
Pepperdine University in California.

Schooled in the bare-knuckle, backroom politics of the infamous


Chicago Machine, he got elected to the Illinois House in 1992
and Congress in 1996.

In 2002, he was elected governor on a promise to clean up


state government after former GOP Gov. George Ryan, who is
serving six years in prison for graft.

__________________

"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
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01-31-2009 02:41 AM

GC Marciano Former Illinois Governor Blagojevich indicted


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Thu Apr 2, 2009 8:27pm EDT
By Andrew Stern and Michael Conlon

http://www.reuters.com/article/poli...E5317XB20090403

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich


has been indicted for corruption while in office, including trying
to sell the U.S. Senate seat that was held by President Barack
Obama, prosecutors said on Thursday.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois A federal grand jury indicted the 52-year-old Democrat on 16
Posts: 9967 felony counts, including racketeering conspiracy, wire fraud,
extortion conspiracy, attempted extortion and making false
statements to federal agents.

Blagojevich, who claims he did nothing wrong and is a victim of


a political witch-hunt, has promised to fight the charges in court
and has a book contract to tell his side.

If convicted, he faces more than 300 years in prison and at


least $4 million in fines, plus restitution, according to the
indictment.

Blagojevich, elected in 2002, was in his second term when the


state legislature kicked him out of office nine weeks ago,
following his arrest in December.

The 75-page indictment alleges Blagojevich was at the center of


a conspiracy to seek cash, campaign contributions and jobs for
himself and others in exchange for state appointments, state
business, legislation and pension fund investments.

Among those actions were attempts to leverage his authority to


appoint a U.S. senator when Obama vacated his seat after his
election as president in November, U.S. Attorney Patrick
Fitzgerald and fellow prosecutors said in the indictment.

The governor was caught on court-approved wiretaps describing


the Senate seat as something so valuable "you just don't give it
away for nothing." Blagojevich added he might appoint himself
if he could not get anything for the seat.

After he was charged in December, Blagojevich ignored advice


from party leaders and named Roland Burris, a former Illinois
attorney general, to fill the Senate seat.

After much back-and-forth, Burris was seated but his


appointment is under investigation by a state prosecutor. Burris
was not mentioned in Thursday's indictment.

FREE ON BOND

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New allegations in the indictment included:

-- Beginning before he was elected and afterward, Blagojevich,


two colleagues and Antoin "Tony" Rezko, a former Obama
fundraiser who has since been jailed, agreed that they would
use the governor's office for personal gain and split the spoils
after he left office.

-- Blagojevich and others directed state business involving the


refinancing of billions of dollars in State of Illinois Pension
Obligation Bonds to a company whose lobbyist agreed to
provide hundreds of thousands of dollars as a kickback.

-- Blagojevich delayed a state grant to a publicly supported


school while trying to leverage an unidentified U.S.
congressman, a supporter of the school, to hold a campaign
fundraiser for the governor.

The 19-count indictment also charged Blagojevich's older


brother Robert, two former aides and two businessmen. Robert
Blagojevich, 53, a Nashville businessman, was former chairman
of his brother's campaign fund.

Blagojevich and former chief of staff John Harris have been free
on bond since a brief court appearance on December 9.

Harris, 47, was charged with a single count of fraud and has
agreed to cooperate with prosecutors. Rezko has also been
cooperating.

The former governor's wife, Patricia, was mentioned in the


indictment but was not charged.

The couple and their two daughters were on vacation at the


Walt Disney World theme park and resort in Florida on
Thursday, according to media reports.

Blagojevich refused to participate in impeachment proceedings


against him in the state legislature, embarking instead on a
round of media interviews to plead his case.

He showed up in the state capital on the final day to offer an


impassioned closing argument but state senators voted
unanimously to oust him and bar him from office.

Democratic Lieutenant Governor Patrick Quinn was sworn in


almost immediately, with a promise of ethics reform.

"We can only hope the former governor will not view this
indictment as a green light for another publicity tour," said U.S.
Senator Dick Durbin. "Rod Blagojevich deserves his day in court
but the people of Illinois deserve a break."

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Download the indictment against Rod Blagojevich in PDF format


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Navigatr1 Blagojevich blames others for his downfall


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BY STACY ST. CLAIR, McClatchy-Tribune Information Services
Tuesday, September 1, 2009 3:15 AM CDT
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: http://www.southernillinoisan.com/a...93191497860.txt
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CHICAGO -- Former Gov. Rod Blagojevich blames overzealous
prosecutors and political enemies for his downfall in a new book
that offers glimpses of both his rocky six-year tenure and his
upcoming criminal defense.

The book, "The Governor" describes his arrest on widespread


corruption charges that included trying to sell the U.S. Senate seat
vacated by Barack Obama. In keeping with the governor's long-held
position that he has been victimized by rivals and "unethical"
prosecutors, Blagojevich writes that his guiding thought in selecting
a new senator was "How much do I love the people of Illinois?"

"That was a question I asked myself over and over again as I


considered who I should appoint," he writes in the 259-page book.

Blagojevich also blasts U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, who told


reporters that the governor had been arrested to stop a "crime
spree" in progress.

"Mr. Fitzgerald didn't stop a crime spree," Blagojevich writes. "He


stopped me from doing a lot of good for a lot of people."

Blagojevich says his efforts to pick a Senate seat were nothing


more than the "ordinary and routine."

"I never intended to sell the Senate seat," he says. "I was merely
engaged in the ordinary and routine politicking that frequently
accompanies a significant appointment by the governor."

The ex-governor writes that he must continue to clear his name, for
both the sake of his family and the country. Though he says that he
often felt tempted to blame the United States for his downfall, he
now places the blame squarely on Fitzgerald's shoulders.

"No, there's nothing wrong with America," he writes. "What is


wrong is what this prosecutor has done. He's wrong. His actions are
undermining and threatening the rights we Americans expect and
take for granted."

Blagojevich's book hit Chicago stores before its release date,


drawing a strong rebuke from the publisher in at least one case.

B. Dalton Books in the Chicago Merchandise Mart removed the


memoir from its shelves around noon Monday after receiving an
angry phone call from Phoenix Books.

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The store had sold two copies, including one to a man described as
the Fabio look-a-like who accompanied Blagojevich to a block party
appearance earlier this summer where Blagojevich sang the Elvis
classic "Treat Me Nice."

A clerk at the downtown bookseller said the store received 24


copies Monday morning and interest had been hot, with just a few
copies left at noon. The book retails for $24.95.

"Everyone seems to want this book today," the clerk said.

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Copwatcher Extraordinaire Eight new federal indictments added
5:18 AM today

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?se...ocal&id=7268818

February 10, 2010 (CHICAGO) -- Former Illinois Gov. Rod


Blagojevich heads to court Wednesday to answer a revised
batch of charges that he schemed to sell or trade President
Barack Obama's old Senate seat and swap official favors for
Registered: Jul 2003 campaign money.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Federal marshals blocked off the courthouse sidewalk to give
Blagojevich a clear path to and from his car and avoid the
swirling media frenzy that surrounded him when he appeared in
court several months ago.

Curiosity about the brash former governor, who has been


pleading his case on radio and television for months, is
guaranteed to draw heavy press attention and marshals have
pledged to maintain strict order.

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Blagojevich has grabbed at almost every chance to get on the


air. Many attorneys have said it is unwise to talk so freely with
federal charges pending. They say the 53-year-old impeached
former governor's words could be used against him at the trial,
which is scheduled to begin June 3.

The arraignment Wednesday is likely to be brief.

"He's going to be there, so it's going to be a big press hoopla,


but legally it's going to be very routine -- he's going to plead
not guilty," Blagojevich defense attorney Sheldon Sorosky said
Tuesday night.

Blagojevich's businessman brother, Robert, who was the head


of his campaign fund and also was charged in the indictment, is
to be arraigned later. He had been set for arraignment
Wednesday but asked to have his appearance rescheduled.

The new indictment alleges Rod Blagojevich sought ways to get


lucrative jobs or money in exchange for the seat left vacant by
Obama's election -- just as the previous version did -- but
makes no new allegations of misconduct.

The new indictment repeats all of the charges against


Blagojevich in the earlier version but adds eight new
ones -- one count of racketeering, two counts of
attempted extortion, two counts of bribery, two counts of
bribery conspiracy and one count of extortion conspiracy.

The new charges are an attempt by prosecutors to ensure that


a legal challenge now before the U.S. Supreme Court doesn't
delay Blagojevich's trial. The dispute is over a federal law that
allows charges of denying taxpayers the right to "honest
services." The charge appears throughout the previous
indictment against Blagojevich.

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Copwatcher Extraordinaire THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Friday, April 9, 2010 9:02 am

http://www.thesouthern.com/news/loc...1cc4c03286.html

CHICAGO (AP) - Former Gov. Rod Blagojevich's lawyers and


prosecutors are meeting with the judge in his corruption case as
three media organizations call for unsealing a key government
document outlining the evidence.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois The Chicago Tribune, the Chicago Sun-Times and The
Posts: 9967 Associated Press made their request for unsealing the so-called
Santiago proffer Thursday as the parties prepared for a hearing
Friday at which issues still hanging eight weeks before trial will
be discussed.

Prosecutors said they sealed their proffer "out of an abundance


of caution" lest the contents prejudice the jury.

Blagojevich is charged with scheming to sell former President


Obama's Senate seat and campaign fundraising offenses.

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GC Marciano PDF Document Attached


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Download the complete 91 page Blagojevich Case Document


(35.1 KB) ordered released today by the judge overseeing the
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http://www.stltoday.com/news/state-...d7f7d40328.html
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By MIKE ROBINSON and MICHAEL TARM • Associated Press |
Posted: Friday, June 18, 2010 12:00 am

CHICAGO • A former state finance official testified Thursday that he


got his job from Rod Blagojevich after contributing $50,000 to the
former Illinois governor's campaign.

Ali Ata, former executive director of the Illinois Finance Authority,


testified during Blagojevich's corruption trial that he took a check
for $25,000 to a meeting with the governor in 2003, and
Blagojevich brought up the possibility that Ata might get a job with

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the state.

Ata said he didn't get his job with the Finance Authority until after
donating another $25,000 to the Blagojevich campaign a year later.

Blagojevich, 53, has pleaded not guilty to scheming to sell or trade


the U.S. Senate seat President Barack Obama gave up following his
November 2008 election. He has also pleaded not guilty to plotting
to launch a racketeering scheme using the powers of the governor's
office.

His brother, businessman Robert Blagojevich, 54, of Nashville,


Tenn., has pleaded not guilty to taking part in the alleged scheme
to sell the Senate seat and to plotting to illegally pressure a
racetrack owner for a $100,000 campaign contribution.

Much of the testimony in the first two weeks of the trial has come
from witnesses who took the stand two years ago at the trial of
Blagojevich fundraiser Tony Rezko. Rezko was convicted of planning
to launch a $7 million kickback scheme and is awaiting sentence.

In other testimony, Jill Hayden, who was director of boards and


commissions under Blagojevich, said Rezko and another fundraiser,
Christopher Kelly, held enormous influence in the former governor's
administration.

She said they managed to get their friends five of the nine seats on
the board that governed the Illinois Finance Authority. That came in
handy for Ata when he was nominated for the post of executive
director of the authority, which provides public financing to
businesses, nonprofit groups and local government agencies
throughout the state.

Chicago attorney Joseph Cari testified that on a 2003 plane ride to


a fundraiser in New York, Blagojevich told him he thought
governors have an advantage over senators in seeking the
presidency because they could get campaign money out of
companies seeking business from the state.

Cari, a former national finance chairman of the Democratic National


Committee, said Rezko and Kelly dangled the possibility that he
could get law business and other fees from the state if he would put
his fundraising contacts to work for a possible Blagojevich run for
the White House.

"I was startled," he said. He said he told the two men no.

But Cari admitted that he bowed to pressure from Stuart Levine, a


major Blagojevich campaign contributor and influential member of
the board that governs a $40 billion fund that pays the pensions of
Illinois teachers not in Chicago.

Levine wanted him to call a Virginia-based asset management firm


and warn them they would lose an $80 million allocation from the

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fund if they didn't hire a consultant they had never met.

Cari has pleaded guilty to extortion and is cooperating with the


government in hopes of a lenient sentence. Levine has pleaded
guilty to taking part in the $7 million kickback scheme and is
awaiting sentence as well.

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Navigatr1 Four Cops Arrested In Corruption Investigation


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Sep 7, 2006 10:18 pm US/Central


Four Cops Arrested In Corruption Investigation
Charges Include Armed Violence, Home Invasion, Kidnapping
Registered: Jul 2003 http://cbs2chicago.com/local/local_story_250160638.html
Location:
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Video:
http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=25901@wbbm.dayport.com

(CBS) CHICAGO Four Chicago police officers are facing felony


charges after prosecutors alleged they illegally used their badges to
intimidate people and get into residents' homes.

Cook County State's Attorney Dick Devine says the charges against

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the officers include armed violence, home invasion, aggravated


kidnapping and delivery of a controlled substance.

CBS 2's Dana Kozlov reports the officers are in custody in Cook
County Jail awaiting a court appearance on Friday.

“We didn’t just look at one case. Rather, we looked at the activities
and the numerous violations and complaints we had received on
these officers as a whole, “said Debra Kirby with the Chicago Police
Department’s Internal Affairs.

The officers charged are 43-year-old Jerome Finnigan, 28-year-old


Keith Herrera, 32-year-old Thomas Sherry and 32-year-old Carl
Suchocki.

Just one year ago, Suchocki was one of several Chicago police
officers who helped Hurricane Katrina victims in New Orleans.

Now he and the others are accused of robbing the homes of


reported drug dealers and innocent citizens.

“Using the police badge essentially to intimidate and get into the
homes of people is certainly a dramatic and key element of what we
are talking about,” Devine said.

Investigators say the tip-off came when the officers repeatedly


failed to testify in court causing the dismissal of the criminal cases
without credible excuses.

“These officers failing to show up in court was a red flag for us as to


what was going on here,” said Chicago Police Supt. Phil Cline.

The Cook County State’s Attorney Office is now reviewing dozens of


criminal cases to see if the officers charged were involved and if
those cases have to be dropped.

Devine says the officers are part of the department's Special


Operations Section, which focuses on gang and drug crimes.

But he declined to release many details of the case until after the
officers' court appearance on Friday. If convicted, they could face
up to 30 years in prison.

Cline says the officers will be suspended without pay and the
department will move to fire them.

"Officers who violate the public trust will be held accountable," Cline
said.

Police officials said the investigation into the officers began in


August 2004 and involves numerous cases, victims and witnesses.

CBS 2's Dana Kozlov contributed to this report.

(© 2006 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.

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facing felony charges.

CBS
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articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

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Bond Hearing Scheduled For Accused Cops
Four Officers Accused Of Abuse Of Authority
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(CBS) CHICAGO A bond hearing is scheduled for Friday for four
Chicago Police officers who are accused of illegally using their
badges to intimidate people and get into residents' homes.

Multiple felony counts have been brought against 43-year-old


Jerome Finnigan, 28-year-old Keith Herrera, 32-year-old Thomas
Sherry and 32-year-old Carl Suchocki. They will at 1 p.m. in Central
Bond Court, at the Criminal Courts Building at 26th Street and
California Avenue.

Cook County State's Attorney Dick Devine said Thursday the


charges against the officers include armed violence, home invasion,
aggravated kidnapping and delivery of a controlled substance.

“We didn’t just look at one case. Rather, we looked at the activities

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and the numerous violations and complaints we had received on


these officers as a whole, “said Debra Kirby with the Chicago Police
Department’s Internal Affairs.

Just one year ago, Suchocki was one of several Chicago police
officers who helped Hurricane Katrina victims in New Orleans.

Now he and the others are accused of robbing the homes of


reported drug dealers and innocent citizens.

“Using the police badge essentially to intimidate and get into the
homes of people is certainly a dramatic and key element of what we
are talking about,” Devine said.

Investigators say the tip-off came when the officers repeatedly


failed to testify in court causing the dismissal of the criminal cases
without credible excuses.

“These officers failing to show up in court was a red flag for us as to


what was going on here,” said Chicago Police Supt. Phil Cline.

The Cook County State’s Attorney Office is now reviewing dozens of


criminal cases to see if the officers charged were involved and if
those cases have to be dropped.

Devine says the officers are part of the department's Special


Operations Section, which focuses on gang and drug crimes.

But he declined to release many details of the case until after the
officers' court appearance on Friday. If convicted, they could face
up to 30 years in prison.

Cline says the officers will be suspended without pay and the
department will move to fire them.

"Officers who violate the public trust will be held accountable," Cline
said.

(© MMVI, CBS Broadcasting Inc.

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owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November

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Registered: Jul 2003 November 2, 2006


Location: BY FRANK MAIN Crime Reporter
Posts: 31403
A firefighter says a police sergeant threatened he would be framed
for drugs and lose his job if he pursued a complaint against now-
indicted Officer Jerome Finnigan and three other cops for allegedly
searching his Southwest Side home illegally and roughing him up.

Chicago firefighter Robert Cook said Finnigan knocked on his door


on May 28, 2002, and asked, "Where's the party?" Finnigan pointed
a gun and entered the house without a warrant, handcuffing Cook,
according to a lawsuit he filed Wednesday.

Says house ransacked

Cook said his girlfriend and her two children watched in horror as
the four cops ransacked his home, demanding, "Where's the stuff?"
Finnigan smacked Cook repeatedly, saying, "You don't want to f---
with us," the lawsuit said.

"They were screaming," Cook said at a news conference


Wednesday. "We were terrorized."

Cook said he called the police department to complain May 29. The
next day, a sergeant came to his house, Cook said.

He told Cook he was in intelligence for about 20 years and called


Cook a "dirty drug dealer," adding his complaint against Finnigan
and the others was bogus, the lawsuit said.

A day or two later, the sergeant allegedly returned and said he had
talked to Finnigan and the others about the incident. The sergeant
allegedly said the officers could do what they wanted and warned
Cook that drugs could be found in his car if he were pulled over,
and that he would lose everything and go to prison, the lawsuit
said. Cook said he agreed he would not file a complaint if the
officers would stay away from his house.

Cook said he was approached by police and prosecutors this year in


their criminal investigation of Finnigan and other officers in the
Special Operations Section. Finnigan and three other officers were
charged with home invasion and other crimes in September. More

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arrests are expected.

Cook said investigators showed him a photo array and he identified


the four officers who allegedly invaded his house. He said he also
identified the sergeant from a photo array. Cook said he testified
this year before a grand jury about the sergeant. Still, he said he
could not remember the sergeant's name.

Sources say a sergeant has been stripped of his police powers in


the SOS investigation, but it was unclear whether that sergeant has
anything to do with the alleged Cook incident.

Monique Bond, a spokeswoman for the police department, said


Cook's allegations are being taken seriously. She said the sergeant
was not from the Office of Professional Standards, which
investigates complaints against the police.

fmain@suntimes.com

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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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Registered: Jul 2003 By David Heinzmann and Carlos Sadovi


Location: Tribune staff reporters
Posts: 31403
Published November 1, 2006, 10:06 PM CST

After a night of terror at the hands of four Chicago officers who


allegedly broke into his Southwest Side home in 2002, Chicago
firefighter Robert Cook said he called the Police Department the
next day to file a complaint.

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Not only did police fail to investigate his complaint, according to a


lawsuit filed Wednesday, but another officer allegedly threatened
that Cook would lose his job or go to jail if he pursued his complaint
against the four special operation section officers.

At a news conference Wednesday, Cook said investigators from the


Cook County state's attorney's office and the police Internal Affairs
Division were investigating the man who allegedly threatened him
in the course of handling his police misconduct complaint.

Cook said he identified the man from photographs investigators


showed him earlier this year.

Based on Cook's account of what happened, his case would have


been handled by the Office of Professional Standards, which
employs only civilian investigators, police spokeswoman Monique
Bond said.

But the officer who showed up at Cook's home called himself a


sergeant, according to the lawsuit. And after a friendly visit, the
officer came back the next day and threatened that Cook could lose
his job and go to jail if he didn't keep quiet, the suit alleges.

Terrified, Cook said he dropped the complaint for four years.

Encouraged by a recent criminal investigation of special operation


unit officers—including Officer Jerome Finnigan, one of the officers
who allegedly broke into Cook's house and beat him—Cook filed a
lawsuit against the city Wednesday, charging the officers terrorized
and threatened his family that night in 2002.

The alleged invasion of Cook's home, during which he was beaten


and accused of being a drug dealer, was among the charges filed by
prosecutors against Finnigan and three other officers in September.

Cook said that he identified the sergeant from photographs


investigators showed him and he was questioned about the man
before a grand jury a week later. Cook said Wednesday that he
does not recall the sergeant's name.

Bond said what happened to Cook's complaint remains part of the


ongoing investigation. A few hours before Cook filed his lawsuit
Wednesday in in U.S. District Court, prosecutors announced
indictments against Finnigan and the other three special operation
unit officers already charged—Carl Suchocki, Keith Hererra and Tom
Sherry. Five other officers have been stripped of their badges in the
investigation, and prosecutors have said charges against additional
officers may still be filed.

The indicted officers were arrested and charged in September.


There had been complaints about their conduct as far back as 2001,
but the investigation accelerated when the state's attorney's office
saw a pattern of officers not showing up in court to testify against

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people they arrested.

Assistant State's Atty. David Navarro said the charges in the


indictments included armed robbery, kidnapping, home invasion,
armed violence and official misconduct and involved incidents
dating back to 2001.

If convicted, the officers could face up to 30 years in prison.

dheinzmann@tribune.com

csadovi@tribune.com

Copyright © 2006, Chicago Tribune

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guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

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and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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Firefighter accuses cop of wrongdoing
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November 1, 2006 - A decorated Chicago police officer is facing
new allegation of corruption. Jerome Finnigan is accused of being
the ringleader of a band of bad cops that are charged with breaking
into homes, stealing money and kidnapping.

Finnigan and three other officers appeared in court Wednesday to


be formally indicted on previously announced charges. This new
allegation comes from a veteran Chicago firefighter who says he
and his girlfriend, along with two children, were victimized by

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Finnigan and other rogue officers inside their Southwest Side home.

"You have two the kids, and you want to protect the kids, but you
are too busy getting beat up and hand cuffed by police," said
Robert Cook, alleged victim.

Officer Finnigan has not been charged in this incident but the
firefighter's description of what he says happened to him is just as
terrifying -- just as brutal -- as the charges already filed against
Finnigan by Cook County prosecutors.

Cook says indicted Chicago Police Officer Jerome Finnigan was the
leader of the pack. In a federal lawsuit filed Wednesday, Cook
claims Finnigan and others barged into his home looking for drugs
and demanding money.

Cook says Officer Finnigan shouted "you don't want to (blank) with
us, do you know who we are? We are the police, you (blank) with
us -- you'll go to prison, you'll lose your job."

Cook had recently undergone surgery after breaking his neck. He


says he told Finnigan and his fellow officers about that -- but he
says they still handcuffed, hit and hurt him. At one point, Cook says
the officers threatened to kill him.

"You are supposed to be protecting me, and you are telling me that
you could have my job like this and he japed his fingers. But, they
have got guns and they can do what then. And I could be pulled
over any time," said Cook.

Finnigan and three other officers were in court Wednesday -- being


indicted on charges they used their guns and badges to break into
homes, steal and injure on at least a dozen occasions.

Robert Cook says he filed a police report immediately after his


encounter with Officer Finnigan and the others. That's when, he
says, an investigator who claimed to be from the police
department's Office of Professional Standards came to his house
and -- according to the lawsuit -- told him "the officers who broke
in were the police and they can do what they want."

A Chicago police spokesperson says the department has no


information to suggest an actual OPS investigator worked to thwart
the investigation into Finnigan but they will look into firefighter
Cook's claims.

The state's attorney's office says the office is aware of the incident
at Cook's home but prosecutors can't include it in their case against
Finnigan because the statute of limitations has run out.

Officer Finnigan and three other have had their police powers
suspended and the department is working to fire them. They left
court refusing to comment.

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articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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Firefighter Says Rogue Cops Beat Him In His Home
Man Says He Has Been Living In Fear Of His Job And Family's
Registered: Jul 2003 Safety For Years
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Joanie Lum
Reporting

(CBS) CHICAGO Four officers were charged last month with abusing
their power for personal gain. Now, one of the alleged victims of
their wrongdoing is fighting back.

CBS 2's Joanie Lum reports on firefighter Robert Cook, who says he
was victimized by a rogue cop.

Cook says he's been living in terror for four years, since four
Chicago police officers allegedly broke into his southwest side
house, beat him and waved guns at him, his girlfriend and her
young children.

"You don't believe they're cops, you want to protect the children but
you're too busy being beat up and handcuffed by people who claim
they're police," said Cook.

Cook identified Officer Jerome Finnigan, a Chicago cop indicted


today along with 3 others for robbing and intimidating drug dealers

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and innocent citizens.

When Cook reported the incident to the Office of Professional


Standards, the investigator allegedly asked him if he wanted to
keep his job as a firefighter.

"He looked at me and said, I can pick up my phone and -snap- have
your job," Cook said.

Cook filed a civil lawsuit Wednesday, seeking damages for years of


pain and fear.

"He was terrified of losing his job, them coming back, planting
evidence, things of that nature," said Lawrence Jackowiack, Cook's
attorney.

Cook would not come forward until today because he said he feared
for his safety.

Finnigan is charged in 11 cases. He and the three other officers


indicted are all part of a special operations section. But only
Finnigan is named in the civil lawsuit. The police department is
moving to fire all four.

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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http://www.dailysouthtown.com/news/...NWS4-02.article

Registered: Jul 2003 November 2, 2006


Location: By Kim Janssen Staff writer
Posts: 31403
A Chicago firefighter from the Marquette Park neighborhood filed a
federal lawsuit Wednesday alleging he was tortured, beaten and
threatened by a corrupt team of Chicago Police Department officers.

Robert Cook, 38, alleges that in May 2002, Special Operations


officer Jerome Finnigan and other officers forcibly entered his home
in the 5200 block of West 63rd Place without a warrant, handcuffed
and beat him in front of his girlfriend and her two young children
and then threatened to plant drugs on him if he talked about his
ordeal.

He claims a sergeant from the Chicago Police Department's Office of


Professional Standards dismissed his complaint without
investigating it and threatened to have him fired if he pursued his
complaint.

Cook is coming forward now after Finnigan was charged in


September with 11 criminal offenses, said Cook's lawyer, Lawrence
V. Jackowiak.

Finnigan faces charges of home invasion, armed robbery,


aggravated kidnapping, armed violence, residential burglary, theft,
aggravated unlawful restraint, intimidation, official misconduct,
false report of motor vehicle theft and failure to give information or
render aid in a motor vehicle accident involving personal injury.

Held on $3 million bail, he is alleged to be the ringleader of a group


of three other Special Operations officers also facing criminal
charges.

Finnigan was a defendant in a lawsuit settled by the city in 2004


and also is named as a defendant in a case filed in August before
his arrest.

Kim Janssen may be reached at kjanssen@dailysouthtown.com or


(708) 633-5998.

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Rylan 2.0 Cop, On Trial For Burglary, Accused Of Attacking Man (Chicago)
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Registered: Dec 2006


Truck Driver Says Cop Cut Him Off, Attacked Him
Location:
Posts: 2330 A Chicago Police officer who already has been accused of breaking
into homes and robbing residents has been named in a lawsuit that
alleges he cut off a truck driver on the Stevenson Expressway, then
attacked the man.

According to the federal lawsuit filed Tuesday, Chad Overly, of


Bloomington, was driving his truck on the Stevenson on Nov. 2,
2005, when he was cut off by a car driven by Jerome Finnegan.

"After cutting him off, Finnegan forced Overly to pull his truck off to
the side of the road," the suit says. "Once both vehicles were pulled
over, Finnegan approached Overly, who had stepped down from his
truck, and began to attack him. When Mr. Overly attempted to
defend himself," the suit says, "Finnegan displayed his [service ]
weapon to Mr. Overly and informed him that he was a police
officer."

Overly tried to call 911 on his cell phone, the suit claims, but
Finnegan attacked him, pulling him to the ground and forcing him
to hang up. Overly tried to call 911 a second time, but Finnegan
"once again forced him to hang up."

Finnegan then held Overly down while he called police and said he
needed assistance. Chicago police and Illinois State Troopers
responded to the scene and "based upon Finnegan's false
statements, Mr. Overly was placed under arrest," the suit claims.

Overly was "eventually charged with battery and reckless conduct,"


the suit says. In January 2006, the charges were dismissed.

"As a result of the false charges, Mr. Overly was fired from his job
and was able to return to work only after the charges against him
were dismissed," the suit says.

In addition to Finnegan, the city of Chicago is also named as a

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defendant in the lawsuit. The city, the suit contends, failed to


properly train, discipline and "control" Finnegan. The suit charges
Finnegan with false arrest, excessive force and making false
statements to prosecutors.

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ZoeJane Officer faces new shakedown charges


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Officer faces new shakedown charges

By Azam Ahmed
Chicago Tribune
June 13, 2007

A Chicago police officer, already charged with wrongdoing for


breaking into homes and shaking down residents, stole $450,000 in
cash from the home of a private citizen in 2004, a new indictment
released Wednesday said.

Jerome Finnigan, who is facing multiple charges with five other


officers in a series of robberies and kidnappings of suspected drug
dealers and others, was hit with new charges of armed robbery,
home invasion, aggravated kidnapping and other offenses.

Prosecutors said Finnigan and two other officers from the elite
special operations section stopped a man parked at a gas station
near Central Avenue and the Stevenson Expressway in September
2004. The officers forced the man to reveal his home address in
unincorporated Cook County, they said.

'After taking the victim's cell phone, driver's license and car keys,
one of the officers stayed with the victim and drove him to a
different location several blocks away while Finnigan and the other
officer went to the victim's home address,' Assistant State's Atty.
David Navarro said in court.

Finnigan and the other officer then ransacked the man's home
without a warrant or probable cause to search, Navarro said. The
man's wife was present but was given no explanation, he said.

No narcotics or contraband were discovered, but the officers found


several shopping bags stuffed with about $450,000 in cash, he said.

The man was released near his home after Finnigan called to tell
the officer to 'ditch the package,' Navarro said.

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'Finnigan and the other two officers drove to one of the officers'
homes in Chicago, where the money was divided equally between
the three, $150,000 apiece,' Navarro said.

Prosecutors said the unnamed victim's cash came from the sale of
property in Mexico.

The victim provided notarized and certified copies of a deed and


land contract from September 2004 for $460,000, they said.

However, the victim did not report the theft to police, saying he
feared police reprisal, according to prosecutors. But he told a
private attorney about the incident, they said.

Prosecutors offered no reason why the two other officers involved in


the theft were not also charged but said the investigation was
continuing.

Finnigan's lawyer declined to comment on the new charges.

At the brief hearing, Cook County Circuit Judge John Fleming denied
a request from the prosecution to increase Finnigan's bail amount -
currently $4 million. The new charges came as Finnigan and five
other officers - Keith Herrera, Carl Suchocki, Tom Sherry, Margaret
Hopkins and Frank Villareal - await trial on charges they stole
thousands of dollars from drug dealers or other people who they
believed would not file police reports. A seventh officer, James
McGovern, was charged with official misconduct.

All the officers have been stripped of their police powers, Monique
Bond, a spokeswoman for Chicago Police Department, said
Wednesday.

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U.S. says fellow officer wore wire
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...1,7421917.story
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: By David Heinzmann and Todd Lighty | Tribune staff reporters
Posts: 31403
11:11 PM CDT, September 26, 2007

When Chicago Police Officer Jerome Finnigan talked to a fellow


indicted cop about killing another officer providing information
against them in a corruption probe, he worried about leaving
fingerprints on a photo of the target, according to charges filed
Wednesday.

But he didn't worry about the cop sitting next to him. He believed
they were in the plot together, federal prosecutors said, and that
both would benefit from hiring someone to kill their former fellow
officer.

Authorities involved in the investigation said Finnigan had good


reason to feel comfortable; they could not recall a Chicago police
officer ever wearing a wire to gather evidence on another city cop.

Until now. The other officer talking to Finnigan about whether to


hire a gang member or a professional hit man for the slaying was
secretly recording the conversations, and the FBI and federal
prosecutors were listening in.

Finnigan, 44, already at the center of a widening probe of


corruption, kidnapping and robbery in the Police Department's
Special Operations Section, was charged Wednesday with plotting
the murder-for-hire of a former police officer. The unit polices high-
crime areas and focuses on making gang and drug arrests.

"The complaint charges that in the face of serious pending state


charges and a federal investigation that could result in additional
charges, the defendant solicited the murder of a fellow police officer
who he believed would be a witness against him," U.S. Atty. Patrick
Fitzgerald said. "The gravity of this conduct speaks for itself."

The police officer who wore the wire began cooperating recently and
immediately told investigators of the plot to kill another former SOS
team member, authorities said. The man is no longer a police
officer, but he has been named in several civil lawsuits that claimed
he was part of Finnigan's team that robbed, kidnapped and falsely
arrested people over several years.

Finnigan was arrested between 6:30 and 7 a.m. Wednesday outside


his house in the 5200 block of South Sayre Avenue, Fitzgerald said.

Shackled at the feet and dressed in jeans and a faded green sweat
shirt turned inside out, Finnigan appeared briefly in court

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Wednesday afternoon. U.S. Magistrate Judge Jeffrey Cole ordered


him held until a bond hearing Monday morning.

In asking that the hearing be set for Monday instead of sooner,


prosecutors said they planned to present new evidence and possibly
new charges.

In telephone recordings made last week, Finnigan and the officer


discussed whether they should hire a member of a Hispanic street
gang or a "professional hit man" to kill the officer, referring to the
planned hit as a "paint job," authorities said.

The recordings also captured the officers talking about the


possibility of killing an additional officer, who they believed was also
cooperating with authorities, according to the charges.

Authorities said Finnigan and the other officer discussed killing up


to four fellow cops.

Attorney Joseph Lopez said that a client, Frank Villareal, was one of
the targets. Villareal was one of two police officers charged months
after the original arrests in the case that netted Finnigan and
Officers Keith Herrera, Carl Suchocki and Tom Sherry.

Finnigan is alleged to have had multiple meetings and phone


conversations with the cooperating police officer over the last week.

In a recorded conversation last week at Finnigan's home, he said he


"wished he had kept a silencer he had for a weapon," according to
an FBI affidavit filed in court Wednesday.

Finnigan also allegedly showed the undercover witness a photo of


the officer he wanted to kill that "he had cut from a larger photo
containing other members of their SOS team," according to the
affidavit. He allegedly planned to give the photo to a gang member
to help identify the target.

According to the criminal complaint, the officer whom Finnigan


allegedly wanted killed had moved to a new address, but he said
that would not be a problem.

"I got the brand-new one," Finnigan said, according to charges.


"You know why? [He] sent me a card to his son's graduation party.
He sent me the brand-new address. Oh, yeah, dude. I got the new
address."

The complaint alleges that Finnigan had been planning to kill the
former officer since at least July and that he told the cooperating
witness after an Aug. 7 court hearing that the "paint job" was "all
taken care of."

Finnigan's lawyer, Michael Ficaro, declined to comment.

A family member who asked not to be named said Finnigan grew up


in various Chicago neighborhoods, attended high school in Las

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Vegas and worked as a carpenter before becoming a police officer.


His father was a painting contractor who moved the family often,
the relative said.

He is married and has a teenage son, the relative said.

Campaign disclosure records show Finnigan has made $2,500 in


donations to the campaign fund of DuPage County State's Atty.
Joseph Birkett between 2004 and 2006. Birkett couldn't be reached
for comment.

Finnigan, who joined the Police Department in 1988, was given the
department's award for valor for heroism in the line of duty in 1999.

Since at least 2002, Finnigan and other SOS officers allegedly


robbed and, in some cases, kidnapped suspected drug dealers and
citizens with no criminal background.

In one case, four SOS officers drew their guns to clear out a
Southwest Side bar and then forced the owner to take them to his
suburban home, where he was robbed of thousands of dollars, the
initial state charges alleged.

In another, the officers allegedly ransacked a man's safe, stealing


cash and a 1952 Mickey Mantle baseball card worth as much as
$20,000. They also allegedly handcuffed a pregnant woman after
she tried to call for help when she found them in her South Side
home.

Prosecutors alleged they took hundreds of thousands of dollars, if


not more. Cook County State's Atty. Richard Devine said
Wednesday that investigators are still working to account for all the
money they believe may have been stolen from people. Internal
Revenue Service investigators are involved in the case, attempting
to trace money allegedly stolen.

The Tribune reported in August that federal prosecutors were


joining the Cook County state's attorney's investigation of SOS.
Investigators are also looking into the Chicago Police Department's
internal affairs division, which was aware of the allegations against
Finnigan and several other officers for at least four years but took
no action.

Sources familiar with the investigation said that internal affairs "did
very little" to investigate the claims from people who said they were
robbed by SOS officers. But a spokeswoman for the Chicago Police
Department said Wednesday that the department fully investigated
claims against SOS and had tried to get the state's attorney's office
to prosecute them earlier.

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Federal agents arrested Chicago Police Officer Jerome


Finnigan at his home this morning on new charges stemming
from a probe of the Police Department's special operations
section. Left, FBI agents check out Finnigan's Southwest
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Chicago Cop Arrested, Charged With Murder-For-Hire


Officer Plotting To Kill Potential Witness Against Him

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(CBS) CHICAGO A Chicago police officer who was already in


legal trouble was arrested Wednesday on federal charges for
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officer.

Authorities say Jerome Finnigan, 44, was plotting the murder of


an officer who was a potential witness against him in an
ongoing federal investigation and a pending state criminal
prosecution.

Federal agents arrested Finnigan outside his home on the city's


Southwest Side and then searched the house. They say he did
not resist arrest.

Finnigan was assigned to the elite Special Operations Section of


the Chicago Police Department. He was one of six members of
that unit arrested in 2006 for allegedly using their badges to
shake down residents for cash and other items. He was
suspended from the force after state charges were filed in that
case.

According to the new complaint against him, Finnigan first


talked about the murder-for-hire plot in July, 2007, with
another police officer who then began cooperating with law
enforcement.

The two apparently discussed hiring street gang members who


would commit the murder for $5,000. They used the term
"paint job" as a code for murder.

Federal agents recorded several phone conversations between


Finnigan and the officer he solicited for help. In one case,
Finnigan allegedly said he was looking for a different hit man
who would be more professional and less risky than gang
members and asked the other officer to find someone to
commit the murder.

Authorities say at first Finnigan balked at the professional hit

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man's $40,000 asking fee, but in one of the recorded


conversation with the police officer who became an informant
for the government Finnigan says, "He said that they're
professionals and you'll never have a problem. Never have any
complaints, never have a problem."

"He went so far as to provide a photo of the officer. He also had


an address and discussed the make and model of the car that
the intended victim possesses," U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald
said.

The one officer wasn't the only one Finnigan's hit list. "There
were three other officers that he talked about killing as well,"
Fitzgerald said.

Finnigan appeared in federal court Wednesday afternoon


wearing jeans, a sweatshirt and shackles. The bond hearing on
his federal charges was delayed until Monday. At that time,
authorities say they may have new charges.

Court records show the police officer Finnigan was trying to hire
to help him with the crime and the officer he was allegedly
plotting to kill are both co-defendants in the state charges he
faces. Those charges include armed robbery, armed violence,
home invasion and kidnapping. Finnigan was already out on a
$4 million bond for those charges.

If convicted in this murder-for-hire case, Finnigan faces a


maximum sentence of 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.

Chicago police did comment on Finnigan's new charges. The top


brass said this is proof that the department is committed to
rooting out bad cops.

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chitownbrian Before we jump to judgement on this guy, let's look at who he was
Senior Member trying to have knocked off...some P.O.S. fired cop who beat,
framed and robbed people for years! Maybe we should give him a
Registered: Nov 2004 merit badge on his way to jail for his other crimes!
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 103 Why didn't they wait until after the hit to pinch him? That would
have been better! Holding him to the letter of the law for trying to
bump off a P.O.S.....I dunno! It's kind of like arresting a guy for
shooting a rabid dog within city limits...I say screw the dog, let it
get shot!

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BY FRANK MAIN AND ERIC HERMAN Staff Reporters

His law enforcement career started badly -- and will probably end
much, much worse.

Back in 1984, Jerome Finnigan was 21 and in training to become a


state correctional officer.

But he was fired after only five months, said Department of


Corrections spokeswoman Dede Short, who didn't know why.

That failure didn't stop Finnigan from getting hired in 1988 as a


beat officer in the Chicago Police Department's rough-and-tumble
Englewood District. Soon he was transferred to the citywide gang
crimes unit, which he left in 1993 to become a member of the elite
Special Operations Section.

Finnigan, 44, won numerous awards for his work in SOS. He was a
member of the Hostage-Barricade-Terrorist Incident team and won
the Superintendent's Award of Valor in 1999 for saving a store
owner during a robbery attempt. He also was named top cop by the
Illinois Police Association.

Now, however, Finnigan is accused of being one of the Chicago


Police Department's dirtiest cops.

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Fired after September 2006 arrest

Finnigan was charged last year in Cook County Criminal Court with
leading a band of six other SOS officers in carrying out home
invasions, robberies and assaults since 2002. One of his co-
defendants, Officer Thomas Sherry, boasted on his MySpace site
that he was a fan of Vic Mackey, the fictional crooked cop in the TV
show, "The Shield."

In an eerie parallel to "The Shield," Finnigan was charged last week


in federal court with plotting the murder of a former officer
cooperating with prosecutors in the corruption case. When he was
freed in lieu of $4 million bail last year in the corruption case,
Finnigan allegedly told fellow SOS Officer Keith Herrera that he felt
like killing himself and "would take someone out" if he had to go
back to jail.

Finnigan, who is being held in a federal lockup, could not be


reached for comment. His attorney did not return calls.

Right up to the point he was first arrested last year, Finnigan was
considered by many to be a model cop.

He was appointed a member of the Summit Police and Fire


Commission in February 2006, using an SOS boss, John "Jake"
Blake, as a reference. He knew one of the village trustees because
their kids went to school together.

"His resume looked great with all those accolades," said board
chairman Eugene Wroblewski.

But Finnigan attended only two or three meetings, saying he was


"tied up in court," and was fired after his September 2006 arrest.

DuPage County State's Attorney Joe Birkett once thought Finnigan


was a good cop, too.

They met before Birkett ran for Illinois attorney general in 2002.
Birkett was visiting the Chicago Police Department's Austin District
on the Far West Side.

"I was in the hallway," Birkett recalled. "He said nice things and
handed me his card. He said, 'Joe, if you ever need any help' and I
said 'thanks.'"

Finnigan started coming to Birkett's events, including a high-profile


fund-raiser. Birkett said he checked with his Cook County
counterparts and was told Finnigan was a decorated, respected cop.

"Of course, now I think this guy should go down and never see the
light of day again," Birkett said.

Birkett said he's not going to return Finnigan's $2,500 in political


contributions between 2004 and 2006. Instead, he plans to donate

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$2,500 to charity.

"Talk about a huge stain on the Chicago Police Department," Birkett


said.

Finnigan, called Jerry by his friends and family, is married with a 16-
year-old son and was living on the South Side. He's one of 12
siblings.

He graduated in 1981 from Kelly High School on the South Side and
attended various city colleges and Lewis University in Romeoville,
where he studied criminal justice, according to his resume and
other records.

Brother's suicide 'was very traumatic'

Finnigan was a carpenter before becoming a cop, and his father was
a painter. Ironically, in his murder-for-hire case, he's accused of
code-naming intended murders as "paint jobs."

In 1999, he was rocked by a tragedy in his family, which some


people close to his corruption case say may have sent him off the
deep end.

A brother, John Finnigan, committed suicide with his girlfriend's .38-


caliber pistol.

The girlfriend, Chicago Police Officer Mariam Hamad, said they had
argued after visiting a Rush Street bar. At her Northwest Side
home, John Finnigan asked if she wanted to play Russian roulette
before he shot himself in the head, she said.

"The family didn't want to believe that he killed himself. They


wanted to blame somebody, and that person was me," Hamad told
the Chicago Police Board in 2006.

Jerome Finnigan was furious that Hamad kept his brother's Ford
Taurus after his death.

For two years after the suicide, Finnigan drove past her home
looking for the car. Then in 2001, a cop tipped him that it was in
her driveway. Finnigan and SOS partner Carl Suchocki, also a co-
defendant in the corruption case, drove to Hamad's home and had
the car towed, records show.

In his testimony at Hamad's 2006 Police Board hearing, Finnigan


acknowledged he never forgave her for his brother's death, saying,
"I didn't really want to talk to her."

"I don't know if you lost a family member, but my brother was very
close to me and it was very traumatic for me," Finnigan testified.
"To be honest with you, it took me a long time to get over it."

Birkett is confident the courts will come to the right decision on


Finnigan's fate.

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"It's always sad to see officers abuse the badge. He is going to be


prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."

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friend2no-thug quote:
"What the government is good at is
collecting taxes, taking away your The indicted officers were arrested and charged in
freedoms and killing people. September. There had been complaints about their
conduct as far back as 2001, but the investigation
accelerated when the state's attorney's office saw a
pattern of officers not showing up in court to testify
against people they arrested.
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Once again I would like to know the whole truth.


I can't help but be suspicous of this statement, is what he is
trying to say ( state attorney) is that not one of these thugs
victims ever came forward and asked for help?
I would be inclined to belive that a whole lot of them did and
along the way various thugs and state attorneys ignored and
covered it up until something finally happened that forced them
to do something. Conspiracy? yeah looks like it and I bet more
than just the few indicted are guilty of the same thing, how
about the cop that tipped Finnigan off abou the car, I am sure
that was not his first or his last crooked dealing with the thug.

I would hope that the entire Chicago PD would be gone over


with a fine tooth comb, but I won't hold my breath.

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Four former Chicago police officers implicated in the Special
Operations Section scandal have made deals to plead guilty in
exchange for cooperating with the investigation, a sign that the
state and federal probes of one of the city's biggest police
corruption scandals ever is coming to a head, according to multiple
sources with knowledge of the investigation.

Most of the officers who turned themselves in at a police station


this morning have not previously been charged in the SOS case, but
they had made deals with state prosecutors as early as 2006 to
eventually plead guilty to reduced charges in exchange for their
testimony.
They are expected to testify at trial and have already provided
grand jury testimony against former Officer Jerome Finnigan and
several others who are accused of running a robbery and home
invasion ring for years, acting under the guise of busting street
gangs and rounding up guns.

Sally Daly, spokeswoman for the Cook County state's attorney's


office, confirmed that four officers will be arraigned in criminal court
Friday.

Today's development in Cook County Circuit Court signals that


federal indictments in a parallel investigation run by the U.S.
attorney are finally ready to be filed, sources said. The U.S.
attorney's office and the FBI entered the case in 2007 to investigate
whether there was a cover-up by Chicago Police Department
supervisors. Federal indictments in the case may include charges
against several ranking officers, sources said.

SOS was once one of the department's elite crime-fighting units,


praised by department brass as the best of the best at making gang
and drug arrests. But while they were racking up arrests in the late
1990s and early 2000s, they were also tallying thousands of

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complaints of false arrest and thefts. Battles within the Internal


Affairs Division about the handling of complaints against SOS
officers have been at the center of the federal investigation.

When the scandal broke in September 2006, it was the first and
biggest domino in a line of misconduct cases that led to the early
retirement of then-Supt. Philip Cline, whom Mayor Richard Daley
replaced with Jody Weis, a former FBI official.

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CHICAGO (CBS) â• It's the latest chapter in a sordid police saga.


Four former members of an elite unit pleaded guilty Friday to
robbing drug dealers, as burglars in blue. CBS 2's Derrick Blakley
was there as the cops went to court.

They were all members of the now-disbanded Special Operations


Section, also known as SOS. Their m.o. was simple: brazenly
targeting Hispanic narcotics dealers, and robbing them of drugs and
cash.

Brian Pratscher, 35; Guadalupe Salinas, 41; Bart Maka, 30;


and Donovan Markiewicz, 38, admitted to a scheme in which
they barged into homes and stole money -- in one case after
withholding insulin from a diabetic man until he told them where to
find the cash.

The four also admitted that they stopped Hispanic motorists who
were driving nice cars, took the drivers' keys and illegally searched
their homes, later dividing the money they found.

The four officers all worked under rogue cop Jerome


Finnegan, ringleader of the tainted SOS unit and all four

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were accused of a laundry list of crimes.

Assistant Cook County State's Attorney Jack Blakey, with the


Special Prosecutions Bureau, said that all four were accused of a
laundry list of crimes. "Very serious charges," he said, including, "
kidnapping, stealing of money, recovery of narcotics."

But the four cops got light sentences in exchange for their
cooperation. They all could be asked to testify against Finnigan.
Each will spend only six months in jail, but it won't be Cook County
Jail, where as former Chicago police officers, they'd be prime
targets for violence.

"Based on the nature of their previous employment," said Blakey,


"arrangements had to be made to be sure they will serve their time
safely."

Finnigan still faced state charges, as well as federal charges for


soliciting the murder another cop, for testifying against him.

Former SOS member Keith Herrera wore a wire to help gather


evidence against Finnigan after Finnigan launched the alleged plot
to kill a former colleague. Last year, Herrera told 60 Minutes "Jerry
Finnigan decided they didn't need to be breathing anymore."

Since the investigation broke, dozens of officers have come forward


to cooperate, including some -- like the four Friday -- who were
also looking to save their own skin.

Markowitz's attorney Barry Prechter said, "He's a good and decent


person who made a terrible mistake and he's working on rectifying
that mistake."

The charges outlined against the four officers were truly harrowing.
In one case, the Finnigan, Pratscher and Maka split $450,000 they
stole after an illegal arrest and illegal search of a drug dealers'
home.

Court documents also hint of further charges in the pipeline against


higher-ranking cops.

Surveillance video appears to show Chicago police officers


from the Special Operations Section raiding a bar near
Midway International Airport.

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

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guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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Section scandal pleaded guilty today and were immediately
sentenced to 6 months in jail and ordered to continue to cooperate
in the ongoing probe of police corruption.

Bart Maka, Brian Pratscher and Donovan Markiewicz each


pleaded guilty to one count of theft while Guadalupe Salinas
pleaded guilty to a count of official misconduct. All other charges--
including kidnapping, burglary, unlawful restraint and obstruction of
justice--were dismissed as part of the plea deal.

"Each defendant resigned from the Chicago Police Department and


based upon their felony convictions will never work as a Chicago
police officer again," said Cook County Assistant State's Atty. John
Blakey, head of the special prosecutions bureau.

All four have been cooperating for some time in the state and
federal probe of SOS, once one of the department's elite fighting
units. A ring led by former Officer Jerome Finnigan is accused of
making false arrests, committing robberies and home invasions,
acting under the guise of busting street gangs and rounding up
guns.

The four officers were each sentenced to periods of probation in


addition to the six-month stints in county jail.

The charges against the four former officers in Circuit Court signal
that federal indictments in a parallel federal investigation are finally

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read to be filed, sources told the Tribune.

Federal prosecutors and the FBI entered the case in 2007 to


investigate whether there was a cover-up by Chicago police
supervisors. Federal indictments, expected in coming weeks, could
include charges against several ranking officers, the sources said.

-- Matthew Walberg

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Extended Sabatical stole money

4 former Chicago police officers admit they barged into


people's homes, stole money
Registered: Jul 2003 http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...obref=obnetwork
Location:
Posts: 31403 DON BABWIN Associated Press Writer

5:41 p.m. CDT, September 18, 2009

CHICAGO (AP) â” Four former members of an now-disbanded


Chicago police unit admitted Friday to taking part in a brazen
scheme in which they barged into homes and stole hundreds of
thousands of dollars from suspected drug dealers and others â”
once after withholding insulin from a diabetic man until he told
them where to find the cash.

Former police officers Bart Maka, Guadalupe Salinas, Brian


Pratscher pleaded guilty to felony theft, and former officer Donovan
Markiewicz pleaded guilty to official misconduct, in deals that called
for each to be sentenced to six months in jail and various terms of
probation in exchange for their cooperation in ongoing state and
federal investigations.

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The four stood quietly as a prosecutor read a 17-page synopsis of


what they admitted to, providing a glimpse into a rogue operation
in which officers pulled over motorists without cause, grabbed their
keys and stormed into their homes, falsified reports, pocketed huge
sums of money and even shook each other down for money.

Five members of the once elite drug and gang unit called the
Special Operations Section still face charges, including Jerome
Finnigan, who is accused of plotting to hire someone to murder
another member of the unit to keep him from talking to the
government. Finnigan and the others have pleaded not guilty.

According to prosecutors, the four who pleaded guilty resigned from


the department and have been cooperating in the investigation for
more than a year.

They said the plea bargain was agreed upon before the current
Cook County State's Attorney, Anita Alvarez, took office. Assistant
State's Attorney Jack Blakey, who heads the special prosecutions
bureau, would not comment on the terms of the deal, in which
prosecutors dropped all the other charges, including kidnapping and
burglary. He said only that the office was "ethically" bound to abide
by it.

Defense attorneys for the four left court without commenting, and
the defendants were not made available for comment.

In a statement, Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis said he


was happy the four pleaded guilty.

"We look forward to the conclusion of this case, so the entire


department can move forward from this unfortunate chapter in our
history," he said.

Finnigan's name figures prominently in the synopsis that outlines


various incidents between 2003 and late 2005, and he is portrayed
as a leader in an ongoing criminal enterprise who on at least one
occasion threatened another member of the unit if he didn't do
what Finnigan wanted.

According to a portion of the synopsis concerning Salinas â” which


Salinas told the judge was true â” Finnigan became angry that
officers had not found any cash in a house where they found 33
kilograms of cocaine. He suggested to Salinas, who had already
withheld the diabetic suspect's insulin to provide information about
the cocaine, that if he didn't find the money, "Salinas 'deserved a
violation,' which Defendant Salinas understood to mean that Salinas
should get a physical beating for his inability to obtain the
information Finnigan wanted regarding the location of the money."

Salinas said after again withholding insulin, the man provided


information that led police to about $30,000 to $33,000. The
officers, according to Salinas, inventoried $10,000 and split the

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rest. It was one of a number of times in which the officers reported


finding far less money than they actually did and split the money
they did not report, according to the document.

In at least one case in which officers found thousands of dollars,


they never made an arrest or even filled out a police report.
Instead, they took the money and did not charge the man, whom
they'd stopped apparently for no other reason than he was driving a
"white Cadillac with rims and dark tinted windows. "

In another case, according to the document, officers pulled over a


man "simply because he was Hispanic and driving an expensive
vehicle with out-of-state license plates." They questioned the man
and after the man gave them an address on the city's South Side,
they conducted a search without a warrant.

"Finnigan found two or three duffel bags containing brick packages


wrapped in cellophane," according to the document. "Each
cellophane package contained a large amount of United States
currency."

Two of the officers said they estimated they'd come upon


approximately $450,000, and that they each received over
$130,000.

The document identifies by name some of the suspects who still


face charges, but it suggests other members of the department,
who are not referred to by name, were involved or knew what
members of the unit were doing.

In one incident detailed in court, Pratscher acknowledged that after


getting into a dispute over the division of money and transferring to
another unit, a sergeant summoned Partscher and told him he was
disappointed Pratscher had taken the money, but asked him for
$3,000.

"The sergeant told Defendant Pratscher that the money would buy
the Sergeant a trip to Vegas," according to the document. And
then, according to the document, the sergeant threatened Pratscher
and his family if he told anyone about the money he'd taken.

Blakey would not say whether other members or former members


of the department might be charged, only that the investigation is
ongoing. He also said that the former officers who pleaded guilty on
Friday would be housed in a county jail outside Cook County "for
their protection."

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
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2 more ex-SOS cops plead guilty


ELITE UNIT | Both former officers get probation in deal
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/...S-sos26.article
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Location: September 26, 2009
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BY RUMMANA HUSSAIN Criminal Courts Reporter
rhussain@suntimes.com

Two former Chicago Police officers were sentenced to


probation Friday after they pleaded guilty to charges related
to the Special Operations Section corruption investigation.

By agreeing to Cook County prosectors' plea deal, Frank Villareal


and James McGovern joined five of their ex-colleagues who
recently copped to robbing purported gang members and drug
dealers. The deal is in exchange for providing information in the
continuing state and federal probes of the now disbanded elite SOS
unit.

But Villareal, 41, and McGovern, 43, were spared from the jail
time Judge John J. Fleming ordered the others rogue officers to
serve.

Villareal received four year's probation for theft.

James McGovern, a former sergeant, got even less: two


year's probation for misdemeanor attempted obstruction of
justice.

Villareal and McGovern were among the group of officers who


stopped mostly Hispanic male motorists without probable cause,
conducted illegal searches in their homes, stole their money and
then tried to cover it up, according to Assistant Cook County State's
Attorney Lynn McCarthy.

Villareal and several others inventoried 300 grams of cannabis and


a weapon they found in a residence, in the 4500 block of West
Marquette, on March 28, 2004. But they failed to report that they

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pried open a safe and found cash, a gold watch and a 1952 Mickey
Mantle rookie baseball card, McCarthy said, rattling off their crimes.

On June 30, 2004, Villareal searched the first floor of a home as the
alleged scheme's ringleader, Jerome Finnigan, and officer Bart Maka
snatched the phone away from a woman who was pregnant with
triplets, McCarthy said. The woman, handcuffed for objecting to the
illegal search, had been trying to call for help.

McGovern split money he recovered with other officers after


shakedowns in 2003 and 2004.

He and several others only inventoried $2,790 of the $5,000


they found in a home in the 1400 block of East 67th Place
and pocketed the rest, McCarthy said.

On Feb. 14, 2004, when a purported drug dealer told officers they
could find additional cash in a residence in the 5600 block of South
Kostner, McGovern and four others split $10,000 of the
$30,000 to $35,000 they recovered.

Villareal also lied under oath when he testified against a man he


helped arrest in 2005, telling a judge he saw the suspect drop a
bag of drugs when he and Finnigan chased him, McCarthy said. The
bag of cannabis mixed with cocaine was actually obtained in
an illegal search.

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Copwatcher Extraordinaire wife "missing"...

Missing woman's officer husband speaks


WLS Team Coverage

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?se...ocal&id=5737534

November 1, 2007 (BOLINGBROOK, Ill.) - A police officer whose


wife is missing disguised his face Thursday night as reporters
Registered: Jul 2003 started asking questions, but spoke later through a cracked
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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front door.

Stacy Ann Peterson, 23, disappeared Sunday. She is the wife of


Bolingbrook Police Sergeant Drew Peterson, 53. Earlier

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Thursday, officials from the Illinois State Police served a search


warrant at their home.

Drew Peterson said he misses his wife, and he is cooperating


with investigators.

Drew Peterson and his children were back home Thursday


evening. They spent most of the afternoon at their neighbor's
house as state police combed through the family's house. Sgt.
Peterson is a 29-year veteran on the police force, and he said
that he considers this, as he put it, "part of the natural
progression of the investigation."

The Petersons have two young daughters and also live with
Drew Peterson's two sons from a previous marriage.

Sergeant Peterson returned home tonight wearing a baseball


cap, sunglasses and an American flag bandana. Once inside his
home, Peterson cracked open his front door and answered
several questions, including why he thought the disguise was
necessary.

"I won't be able to go anywhere and show my face anywhere


without people pointing or coming up to me or getting some
sort of abuse over this, so basically I just feel like I need the
anonymity, so I can live a normal life," he said.

Peterson is well aware the case is getting national attention.


Stacy Peterson was last seen by Drew Peterson Sunday
morning. She'd planned to help relatives paint their home in
Yorkville. When they couldn't reach her, they reported her
missing.

"Searching your house is like a major violation of your


rights. So it's like, OK, I have nothing to hide, so it's like,
come and look. But they did so under court order, and I
didn't have no choice," Drew Peterson said.

Stacy Peterson's family and friends are concerned. Her father


came to the home thursday evening and spent at least 15
minutes talking to investigators.

And at least one of Stacy Peterson's friends is stepping


forward, saying Stacy Peterson was trying to leave her
husband.

"She felt trapped. I talked to her a month ago, and she wanted
out of the marriage, and she feared for her life, she feared
for the children," said Sherrie Mills.

As for the investigation, Sergeant Peterson said he understands


the process and will continue to cooperate with Illinois State
Police.

"They're being thorough and looking at all sides," he said.

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Seized in the search were the couple's 2002 Pontiac Grand Prix,
their 2005 GMC Denali, their personal computers and their cell
phones. Police also seized guns and a computer. The search of
the property also involved cadaver dogs and crime scene
technicians.

"No criminal charges have been filed and no one has been taken
into custody," said Will County state's attorney's office
spokesman Charles Pelkie.

Witnesses said they saw someone escorted from the home. No


one has been charged in the case, and Sergeant Peterson
denies involvement in the disappearance.

Officials searched a retention pond in connection to the


disappearance of the Bolingbrook woman. The Naperville Police
Department dive team was searching the pond located near
Clow International Airport in Bolingbrook. They were reportedly
on the south end of the water near the runway.

The airport is just a few blocks from the Peterson home.

"I believe she's with someone else, but I believe she's safe,"
Peterson said. He said she called him Sunday night and told him
she was leaving, taking some clothes and money from a safe in
the couple's home.

However, Stacy Peterson's family said she would not have left
her two small children. "She just wanted people to know she
was unhappy, and she didn't like how she was being treated,"
said her aunt, Candace Aikin, 48, of El Monte, Calif. "In case
she disappeared -- if something bad happened to her."

Aikin said she talked to her niece every week and knows she did
not have a boyfriend. "She had a husband who was
following her 24/7," she said.

"I know damn well she wouldn't go without them kids," said her
uncle, Gary Cales, 68, of Hemet, Calif.

Because of Sgt. Peterson's affiliation with the local authorities,


the case is under the jurisdiction of state officials.

Neighbors in the subdivision are watching the scene unfold.

"Drew and Stacy, they come out and walk with the kids and
stop by the house and pet the dog. And, you know, you become
friendly with your neighbors," said Jim Lepper, neighbor.

The disappearance has triggered renewed interest by Will


County prosecutors in the 2004 drowning death of Peterson's ex-
wife, Kathleen Savio. Savio's father said Peterson received a
$1 million life insurance policy following her death.

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Peterson denies any wrongdoing in both his wife's


disappearance and his ex-wife's drowning in her bathtub.

"It bothers me," he said. "I've led an honorable life, and people
are looking at me sideways. It hurts."

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Puddles snipped from above article:


Junior Member
Peterson denies any wrongdoing in both his wife's disappearance
and his ex-wife's drowning in her bathtub.

Registered: Aug 2007 "It bothers me," he said. "I've led an honorable life, and people are
Location: looking at me sideways. It hurts."
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If he led such an honorable life, why the heck was he out cheating
on his 3rd. wife?

I hope the cause of death of his wife #3 is reopened and thoroughly


investigated. I was watching Greta and it's been reported that wife
#3 reached out for help because of her husband's threats. No one
helped her. A healthy woman in her 40's suddenly drowns in her
tub????? Hmmmm....I hope his current wife is found, one way or
another....

I don't know if Sgt. Peterson is guilty or not but from what I'm
reading and hearing in the news, he's a slimeball.

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liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by Puddles

I don't know if Sgt. Peterson is guilty or not


but from what I'm reading and hearing in the
news, he's a slimeball.

Which goes a long way in explaining why he's a cop.


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DumbassCops Sister: Cop's Wife 'Feared for her Life,'


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Missing Woman 'Feared for her Life,' Sister Says


Registered: Jul 2005 Relatives Search Forest for Clues to Young Wife's Fate
Location:
Posts: 8 By CHRISTINE BROUWER
Nov. 4, 2007

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3817716&page=1

Friends and family scoured forests near a Chicago suburb this


weekend in the hopes of finding clues about the fate of 23-year-old
Stacy Peterson, a mother of two who disappeared from her home
nearly a week ago.

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About 40 people gathered to look for the missing woman Saturday


morning, said her younger sister, Cassandra Cales. By early
afternoon, the search had turned up nothing, but volunteers vowed
to continue their hunt Sunday.

"Everybody is looking for her," Cales told ABC News. "She's a very
loved girl, and she wouldn't just disappear like that."

"We've got search teams coming from around the world to help,"
she added. "We're just gonna go back at it [Sunday]."

Stacy Peterson vanished from her house in Bolingbrook, Ill., last


Sunday. Her family members say they grew concerned when she
was supposed to meet her sister to help paint a house, but never
showed up.

Suspicion has since mounted that the missing woman's husband,


Drew Peterson, 53, a sergeant at the local police department, may
have played a role in his wife's disappearance.

"She told me Friday night, 'If anything happens to me, I fear for my
life,'" said Cales, who described her sister's marriage as abusive
and said Stacey was considering divorce.

Cales said she filed a missing person's report as soon as she


realized her sister wasn't returning her calls.

"I didn't sleep," she told ABC News of the day her sister
disappeared. "I still haven't slept."

But Drew Peterson insists he had nothing to do with his wife


disappearance, and has suggested she left him for another man.

"I miss her," Peterson told reporters from the doorstep of his home
Thursday. Peterson has said his wife suffered from "mood issues"
since one of her sisters died from colon cancer last year.

The couple's two young children, Lacy, 2 and Anthony, 4, are


staying with neighbors, according to family members.

Stacy Peterson's marriage to Drew Peterson was her first, but it


was his fourth. His third wife, Kathleen Savio, drowned in a bathtub
in 2004, in a death that was ruled accidental.

Before she died, Savio had filed an order of protection against her
ex-husband, which read in part, "He wants me dead, and if he has
to, he will burn the house down to shut me up."

In light of recent events, prosecutors have reopened the


investigation into Savio's death.

"The current situation has prompted the state attorney to take


another look at that case," Charles Pelkie, a spokesman for the Will
County state attorney's office, told ABC News. "He is looking at it
with fresh eyes and an open mind."

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Authorities searched the couple's home Thursday and have sent


divers and cadaver dogs to investigate a nearby pond, but "no body
was found," according to a spokesman for the Illinois State Police.

The spokesman wouldn't comment on any other findings, but


emphasized Stacy Peterson's disappearance is still considered a
missing person's case, and not a homicide. He said Drew Peterson
has been cooperative with the police's investigation.

Drew Peterson has said he wants the attention to be on Stacy, and


not on him.

"I won't be able to go anywhere and show my face anywhere


without people pointing," he told reporters earlier this week.

Stacy's friends seem pessimistic the young woman will be found


alive.

"I do think there was foul play," family insider Anthony Laatz told
ABC News. "Stacy wouldn't just disappear and not call Cassandra.
They were very close. They talked all the time."

Laatz said he hoped Sunday's search would yield information as to


Stacy's location.

"That's why we're searching, to find something that will lead us to


Stacy," Laatz said. "A piece of clothing, anything that will give us a
clue about her whereabouts."

Cassandra Cales herself says she still hopes for more.

"I hope to find her," she said. "Right now, I'm trying to find my
sister."

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Navigatr1 Death of Illinois officer's 3rd wife should have been ruled
Extended Sabatical 'undetermined' (IL)

Death of Illinois officer's 3rd wife should have been ruled


'undetermined,' coroner says
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Location:
Posts: 31403 Posted: Nov 8, 2007 08:24 AM

Updated: Nov 8, 2007 08:26 AM

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. (AP) -- The death of the third wife of a police


sergeant whose new spouse has been missing for more than a week
should have been ruled "undetermined,'' a county coroner said on
Wednesday.

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No charges were filed after a coroner's jury ruled as accidental the


death of Drew Peterson's former wife, Kathleen Savio, whose body
was found in a bathtub in March 2004. Savio's death is being
reviewed since Peterson's current wife, Stacy, went missing Oct. 29.

"Certain aspects of Kathleen Savio's death raised concerns for me,


as well,'' Will County Coroner Patrick O'Neil said. "At the very least,
her death should have been ruled 'undetermined.'''

At the 2004 inquest, authorities said Savio, 40, drowned, even


though there was no water in the bathtub when she was found.
Investigators theorized that the water must have drained out.

Savio had gotten an order of protection in 2002, alleging a pattern


of physical abuse and threats, according to court records. Drew
Peterson has denied involvement with his ex-wife's death.

On Wednesday, searchers looked for Stacy Peterson, 23. Illinois


State Police say her disappearance is being investigated as a
missing persons case.

Drew Peterson visited the Will County courthouse complex in Joliet


for about two hours Wednesday.

"This is an ongoing investigation,'' his attorney Fred Morelli told the


Chicago Sun-Times. "We have nothing to say.''

Drew Peterson, 53, a sergeant in the Bolingbrook Police


Department, has said his wife phoned him and told him she had left
for another man. Her family has said she feared her husband, was
making plans to divorce him and would not have willingly left her
children.

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11-08-2007 09:07 PM

Puddles Sgt. Drew Peterson officially named a suspect In


Junior Member
Stacy's Disappearance

Authorities: Peterson Now A Suspect In Stacy's


Registered: Aug 2007 Disappearance
Location: 11/09/2007
Posts: 21
www.amw.com

BREAKING NEWS: In a news conference this afternoon, the Will


County, Ill. State's Attorney James Glasgow confirmed that they
have formally reopened the investigation into the death of Kathleen
Savio, Sgt. Drew Peterson's third wife, and will exhume her body
for examination. Glasgow cited several reasons for the exhumation,
including inconsistencies with the facts and that Kathleen's injuries
appeared to be non-life-threatening.

Sgt. Drew Peterson, who has been at the center of the


investigations of his fourth wife's disappearance and the unusual
death of his third wife, has now officially been named a suspect by
Commander Carl Dobrich of the Illinois State Police.

The Savio family, reacting to the news, told AMW that the
exhumation will be "bittersweet because we will have to bury
Kathleen again." However, they also told us they are elated that
Kathleen will finally see some long-awaited justice.

Stacy Peterson, the 23-year-old fourth wife of longtime Bolingbrook


police officer Sgt. Drew Peterson, 53, has been missing since
Sunday, October 28. She is the mother of two young children and
the adoptive mother of two of Drew Peterson's other sons.

Glasgow stated that those children were all taken to a Child


Advocacy Center this week and questioned in regards to the
disappearance of their mother Stacy.

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Finally, the POS is named a suspect! AMW has the letter written by
wife #3. The poor woman BEGGED for help and no one did squat.
It's heartbreaking to read how this jerk in uniform treated his wife.

Did this loser think because he was wearing a "uniform" the law
didn't apply to him?

How many of his buddies looked the other way? Was he abusing

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citizens? I wonder if he's got a list of complaints in his police file.

I hope they find Stacy - one way or another and I hope Drew gets
arrested very soon.

How could this Sgt. arrest anyone for domestic violence when he
was an offender himself? Sick b@stard!

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liberranter Authorities to Exhume Ill. Cop's Ex-Wife


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http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3844986&page=1

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. -- Nov. 9, 2007

Family members of the ex-wife of a Bolingbrook police officer


said Friday authorities have told them they're going to exhume
the body of the woman, who died in 2004.

The development is the latest twist in a story that's developed


Registered: Jun 2005
since Sgt. Drew Peterson's fourth wife, Stacy Peterson,
Location: Tucson, AZ disappeared last month. Her family members say they believe
Posts: 5865 the woman didn't leave voluntarily, and they fear she's dead.

Peterson's third wife was Kathleen Savio. Her niece, Melissa


Marie Doman, said family members support the decision by the
Will County state's attorney's office to exhume Savio's body.

Family members have long suspected that Savio didn't drown


accidentally in her bath tub as ruled by the coroner's office,
Doman said.

"I am all for it, along with the rest of my family, because
something just was never right," said Doman. "I can't really say
who, but someone did something. I don't think it was an
accident."

When prosecutors learned of Stacy Peterson's disappearance,


they reopened the investigation of Savio's death.

The state's attorney's office scheduled a news conference for 2


p.m. CST.

Drew Peterson, 53, began dating Stacy when she was 17. They
have two children, ages 2 and 4.

In the immediate aftermath of his wife's disappearance,

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Peterson told reporters the two talked on the phone the day she
disappeared and that he believed she was with another man.

Peterson was divorced from Kathleen Savio, but financial issues


hadn't been completed, when her body was found in her
bathtub in 2004. There was no water in the tub.

A coroner's jury said her drowning death was accidental. But


this week, the Will County coroner said Savio's death should
instead have been ruled "undetermined."

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liberranter Originally posted by Puddles


Super Moderator
quote:

My question is how many more are out there


abusing their wives behind closed doors?

The answer would probably horrify you.


Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ quote:
Posts: 5865
I feel bad for both Kathleen & Stacy's families
as well as the children involved. I hope they
get justice.

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If there is overwhelming evidence that Peterson murdered his


wife, I seriously doubt that he'll worm his way out of it. While
he might not get the needle if convicted, a long stretch in prison
(even if for a sentence of less than life) will be pure, living hell
for an ex-cop.

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powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." -
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"Oink If You Hate Freedom"

"And this brings us to a point that has to be driven home with


the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
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GC Marciano Cops: Husband Is A Suspect In Wife's Disappearance


Copwatcher Extraordinaire November 09, 2007

http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=50297

Stacy Peterson, the 23-year-old wife of longtime Bolingbrook,


Ill. police officer Sgt. Drew Peterson, vanished on Sunday,
October 28, 2007. Cops say that Stacy may have left the house
in a jogging suit and was supposed to be headed to a relative's
Registered: Jul 2003 home. She never made it.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Sgt. Peterson claims he received a phone call from Stacy on
Sunday at 9 pm. But, no one else heard from her after a
Sunday morning phone call with relatives.

Stacy's family has asked the Illinois State Police to look into her
disappearance since her husband is a cop with the local police
department. State Police Commander Carl Dobrich announced
that the Bolingbrook police officer is indeed a suspect in Stacy's
disappearance.

Responding to that revelation, the Bolingbrook Fire and Police

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Commission suspended Drew Peterson without pay and relieved


him of his duties as a Bolingbrook Police Officer. The
Commission is conducting an internal affairs investigation.

Drew Peterson is 53-years-old. Stacy is his fourth wife. Sgt.


Peterson has served on the Bolingbrook Police force for 29
years.

ISP Digs Up Old Mystery

State investigators are trying to track down the missing woman


and in the process are looking in to Sgt. Peterson's past. That
includes the mysterious death of his third and previous wife,
Kathleen Savio.

Kathleen's death in March 2004 was ruled an accidental


drowning after she was found in the waterless tub of the home
she shared with Sgt. Peterson. At the time of her death,
Kathleen and Sgt. Peterson were divorced and settling their
assets and custody of their two children.

A week and a half after the disappearance of Stacy, Will County


Coroner Patrick O'Neil spoke publicly about the Savio death. He
said that he would have preferred to classify Kathleen's cause of
death as "undetermined" rather than "accidental." In 2004,
coroners in Illinois deferred to jury panels to rule on deaths. In
this case, the jury stated Kathleen's cause of death was
accidental.

Now, Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow says that


because of Stacy's disappearance, new evidence has come to
light about Kathleen's death. They have formally reopened the
investigation and are exhuming Kathleen's body.

Authorities say the Savio death is rife with inconsistencies,


including that the gash on the back of her head may not have
been sufficient to render her unconscious. If she wasn't
unconscious, cops say she would not have drowned
accidentally. Investigators will be looking at Kathleen's remains
to find any previously unseen broken bones or subcutaneous
bruising that would result from choking and other injuries. In a
November 9 press conference, Glasgow also cited the
inconsistencies surrounding the draining of the bathtub's water
and the blood evidence left behind.

The Savio family, reacting to the news, told AMW that the
exhumation will be "bittersweet because we will have to bury
Kathleen again." However, they also told us they are elated that
Kathleen will finally see some long-awaited justice.

Nearly Two Weeks With No Answers

As Stacy has remained missing for nearly two whole weeks,


family, friends and cops are stepping the search up a notch.

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Police have searched the Peterson home twice now, impounded


their cars for further investigation and sent divers into a nearby
retention pond in an effort to track down clues on the case. Sgt.
Peterson also spent two hours testifying in front of a grand jury
at the Will County Court house on Wednesday, November 7.

State's Attorney Glasgow also revealed that the Peterson


children have all been taken to a Child Advocacy Center and
questioned about their mother's disappearance. He added that
the Illinois State Police is handling the missing investigation as
if it were potentially a homicide.

The Illinois State Police say that they pinpointed nine different
locations in their investigation and sent a team of investigators
and canines to each. So far, their searches have yielded no new
clues.

Family and friends have organized several searches in the


woods near the Peterson home in Bolingbrook. They have called
in the Texas-based search team Equusearch to join the hunt.

Equusearch, working with dozens of volunteers, have set-up


their command post at a church near the Peterson home. They
are doing ground and water searches in the woods in and
around the Petersons' Bolingbrook home, following the Illinois
State Police lead. They have also launched their drone airplane,
often used in these kinds of searches, in an effort to highlight
suspicious areas for future searching.

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Navigatr1 Detectives need to get a clue


Extended Sabatical

Detectives need to get a clue


http://www.suntimes.com/news/commen...edit13a.article

Registered: Jul 2003 November 13, 2007


Location:
Posts: 31403 So now, prosecutors say there are "strong indications" that
Kathleen Savio's bathtub death in 2004 was a homicide. Somehow
all those clues -- the dry tub, the $1-million life insurance policy,
the numerous abuse complaints to police, the deathly fears
Kathleen confided to her family -- didn't raise eyebrows until
Kathleen's successor, Stacy Peterson, went missing two weeks ago.
Duh. Even a novice ''CSI'' viewer could have scoped that out.

The story has all the elements of a TV movie: Stacy Peterson is the
fourth wife of 53-year-old Drew Peterson, a Bolingbrook cop with a
marred past. The more dirt that gets uncovered about him, the
more people think he's a killer.

While volunteers comb the woods for Stacy's body, Bolingbrook


police are conducting an internal investigation to determine whether
Kathleen's death was handled properly. Kathleen divorced Peterson
in 2003 after discovering he was having an affair with Stacy, who
was pregnant. Did Bolingbrook police shield Drew from close
scrutiny because he is a cop? Did the village, not wanting a black
eye, act less aggressively in its pursuit of the truth than it should
have? Did the Will County coroner's office miss glaring clues
because of its relative inexperience with homicide investigations?

When 40-year-old Kathleen's body was found, you hardly needed


an official investigation to question Drew's connection to the
supposed drowning. He was there when her body was discovered.
At the original coroner's inquest, Kathleen's sister recounted how
Kathleen told their family that Drew had threatened her -- that
Kathleen was "terrified" he would kill her and make it look like an
accident. Kathleen, who sought an order of protection from Drew in
2002, alleged numerous incidents of spousal abuse -- including a
violent confrontation after she asked him about his affair with
Stacy. Bolingbrook police have confirmed no less than 18 calls to
the Peterson home.

Then there was the money angle: Kathleen's death made her two
sons with Drew rich. They inherited the $1 million insurance policy
Drew held on her, and a $600,00 estate.

And in the character reference department, Drew was no angel on


the police force, either. In 1985, he was fired after his chief charged
him with leaking the identity of an undercover narcotics agent to a
suspected drug dealer with a murder conviction. Though Drew was
reinstated after it was ruled the firing was excessive, his former

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boss maintains his belief that Drew's "conduct was unbecoming of


an officer."

In the face of all these obvious indicators that Kathleen's death may
not have been accidental, the six-person coroner's jury in 2004
ruled it was. Police and prosecutors went about their business and,
unhappily for Stacy, Drew Peterson went about his. Until State's
Attorney James Glasgow, who wasn't in office when Kathleen died,
announced he was reviewing her death.

Maybe Drew Peterson will be cleared of foul play relating to Stacy's


disappearance. Maybe she'll re-emerge and they'll live happily ever
after. But more likely, something terrible has happened to Stacy,
just as something terrible happened to Kathleen. If there was no
doubt in Glasgow's mind that her death wasn't accidental, as he
said last week, perhaps other Will County cases need to be re-
investigated. Even if those cases didn't make it onto Fox News or
CNN.

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liberranter Re: Detectives need to get a clue


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quote:

Originally posted by Navigatr1

Maybe Drew Peterson will be cleared of foul


play relating to Stacy's disappearance.

Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ I'd say that's highly likely, since we can almost certainly

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Posts: 5865 assume that Peterson's fellow thugscum will pull out all the
stops to intimidate witnesses and otherwise impede/derail the
ongoing investigation. One wonders how many of them have
blood on their hands.

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the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

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freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
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GC Marciano Maybe he will be cleared... in which case it will be up to some


Copwatcher Extraordinaire courageous citizens to exact their form of justice on the
murderous pig.

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Navigatr1 Accused cop: Wife asked for divorce regularly


Extended Sabatical

Accused cop: Wife asked for divorce regularly


Missing woman wanted to leave him when she was menstruating,
he says
Registered: Jul 2003 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21793068/
Location:
Posts: 31403
updated 6:11 p.m. ET, Wed., Nov. 14, 2007

HILLSIDE, Ill. - An Illinois police officer who resigned after being


named a suspect in the disappearance of his fourth wife said
Wednesday that she had asked him for a divorce — but he thought
it was due to hormones.

Drew Peterson told NBC’s “Today” that his wife fell into a deep
depression after her sister died of cancer, and had been taking
medication. They often had fights after that, he said.

“I’m not trying to be funny, but Stacy would ask me for divorce
after her sister died on a regular basis,” Peterson said. “It was
based on her menstrual cycle.”

Stacy Peterson, 23, was last seen Oct. 28. Authorities say the case
is a potential homicide investigation and have identified her 53-year-
old husband as a suspect.

Drew Peterson was a sergeant in the Chicago suburb of Bolingbrook


until this week, when the department said he submitted a
resignation letter, effective immediately.

Peterson believes his wife has left him for another man, and said he
has no plans to look for her because he thinks she left willfully.

“Why would I look for somebody who I don’t believe is missing?


She’s just gone. She’s where she wants to be,” Peterson told NBC.

Third wife's body exhumed


The interview aired a day after the body of Peterson’s third wife,
Kathleen Savio, was exhumed in Illinois as authorities look for clues
about how she died.

Savio was found dead in her bathtub in 2004, her hair soaked in
blood from a head wound, just before the couple’s divorce
settlement was finalized. The death was ruled an accidental
drowning, but investigators now say evidence suggests that
someone killed Savio and tried to make it look like an accident.

Peterson downplayed any similarities between the two cases, but


said his relationships with both women were troubled. Both suffered
from emotional problems, he said, but were beautiful and exciting
when he first met them. He denied he had anything to do with the
two cases.

“I can look right in your eye and say I had nothing to do with either

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of those incidents,” he said.

Peterson acknowledged that there were mysterious circumstances


surrounding Savio’s death, but said he didn’t know what, if
anything, the exhumation would accomplish.

“It’s a shame her rest in peace has to be disturbed for something


like this,” he told NBC.

Stacy Peterson’s family has said she feared her husband, was
making plans to divorce him and would not have willingly left her
two young children. Savio’s relatives have long suspected she didn’t
drown accidentally.

Peterson, who had been suspended without pay before resigning,


said he agreed to the interview because he believed both women’s
families and the media were targeting him.

“I think my silence has basically painted me guilty in the media,” he


said.

Peterson has told his two youngest children — aged two and four —
that “basically, mom has gone on a vacation.” The two teenage
sons he fathered with Savio also live with him.

He also pleaded with his wife to return: “Come home,” he said. “Tell
people where you are.”

An undated photo provided by her family shows Stacy


Peterson, of Bolingbrook, Ill., and her husband, Drew
Peterson, with their children.
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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

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11-15-2007 08:55 AM

Navigatr1 Peterson resigns as police officer, will still collect pension


Extended Sabatical

Peterson resigns as police officer, will still collect pension


http://www.chicagosuburbannews.com/...page/x799509409

Registered: Jul 2003 By staff reports


Location: GateHouse News Service
Posts: 31403
Fri Nov 16, 2007, 12:46 PM CST

Bolingbrook, IL -

Sgt. Drew Peterson, suspended without pay by the Bolingbrook


Police Department Nov. 9, has sent a letter of resignation to the
department.

The letter, dated Nov. 12, expressed “his intent to resign from the
department, effective immediately,” according to a release issued
by the department’s Media Relations Office.

According to Kathleen Elliot, attorney for the Bolingbrook Board of


Fire and Police Commissioners, “Drew Peterson is considered
resigned as of Nov. 12, and the board will acknowledge that at its
next meeting.”

The board has rescheduled its regular meeting from Monday, Nov.
19, to 7 p.m. Tuesday, Nov. 20, at the Police Department
Administration Office conference room.

Peterson, a 29-year veteran who was earning $85,000, had


informed police officials prior to the disappearance of his fourth
wife, Stacy Peterson, he intended to retire in mid-December.

A missing person report for Stacy Peterson was filed with the Illinois
State Police Oct. 29 by members of her family.

Since that time Drew Peterson has not worked for the department,
using accrued personal time, according to the Police Department.

On Thursday, a five-member board from the Bolingbrook Police


Department granted Peterson his pension of nearly $6,000 per
month. The Board said Peterson meets the requirements of being
more than 50 years old and having served more than 20 years on
the force, reports said.

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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GC Marciano Re: Accused cop: Wife asked for divorce regularly


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Originally posted by Navigatr1


“I can look right in your eye and say I had
nothing to do with either of those incidents,”
he said.

Registered: Jul 2003


Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 I'm sure you can do that without any problem at all, Drew.
People without a conscience don't have a problem lying to
someone's face, not to mention the fact that you spent years as
a trained, professional liar.

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TheJackel Death of Ex-Cop's Wife Called a Homicide


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with that sir?
Death of Ex-Cop's Wife Called a Homicide
Registered: Sep 2007 JOLIET, Ill. (Nov. 17) - A nationally known pathologist has
Location: In the dumpster
behind Krispy Kreme examined the remains of a former police officer's third wife at her
Posts: 538 family's request and determined her death was a homicide,
according to a published report.

Former New York City chief medical examiner Dr. Michael Baden
examined Kathleen Savio's remains on Friday and determined that
she died after a struggle and her body was then placed in the
bathtub where she was later found, Savio's family told WFLD-TV.

"She was beat up and placed in the bathtub as a cover-up for


whoever done this," Sue Savio Doman, Savio's sister, told the Fox
affiliate.

A coroner's jury initially ruled that Savio's 2004 death was an


accidental drowning. But now, with Drew Peterson's fourth wife
missing for more than two weeks, authorities are re-examining the
circumstances of Savio's death.

"There was marks on her hips, her arms, her elbows, on her legs,
her feet. ... There was a struggle. She did fight," Savio Doman said.

Peterson, 53, who resigned this week as a Bolingbrook police


sergeant, has not been named a suspect in Savio's death. But he is
a suspect in the disappearance of his fourth and current wife,
Stacy, who was last seen Oct. 28 and whose case authorities have
called a possible homicide.

Drew Peterson has an unlisted number. He has denied any


involvement in either case and said he believes his 23-year-old wife
left him for another man and is alive.

Savio's body was exhumed this week at the request of Will County
State's Attorney James Glasgow, who has said after examining
evidence he believes her death was a homicide staged to look like
an accident.

The state's attorney's office allowed Baden to use the county


morgue for his work and a state's attorney's investigator attended
the autopsy, spokesman Charles Pelkie said.

The results of Will County's official autopsy will not be available for
days, authorities said.

Savio's brother, Nick Savio, told WFLD-TV that Baden's report,


which Pelkie said would be reviewed by investigators, was a step
forward in the case.

"It gives us a little bit of closure ... but we're still far, far, far away
from getting the closure that we really do need, and that is if

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whoever is responsible for this, that person should be put behind


bars and justice hopefully will prevail this time for the Savio family."

Steve Carcerano, who says he was there when his friend Drew
Peterson first saw Savio's body in the tub, said he was called by a
grand jury looking into Savio's death and is to testify next week.

When Peterson first saw Savio's body, he was obviously surprised


and distraught, Carcerano said.

"He checked her pulse right away to see if she was dead or alive.
Then he was, `Oh my god, what am I gonna tell my kids? What am
I gonna tell my kids?"' Carcerano said.

Documents released by Savio's family show she had accused


Peterson of once stealing her car while she was in church with one
of her children. According to one letter the family said was sent to
Will County prosecutors in November 2002, she also accused
Peterson of beating her a number of times so severely she "ended
up in the emergency room."

She also described in the letter one time she believed he would kill
her: "He pulled out his knife that he kept around his leg and
brought it to my neck."

Pelkie said it remains unclear if that letter ever came to the office.
He said it was not in the files Glasgow read when he began
reinvestigating Savio's drowning.

But many allegations in the letter are consistent with those Savio
made in an order of protection filed against Drew Peterson in 2002,
as well as accounts given by her family members.

Carcerano said he never once saw Peterson strike or shout at his


wife in anger, though he said he saw Savio attack Peterson.

"I've seen her slap him in the face right in front of me, seen her spit
in his face and chasing him around with an extension cord, hitting
him with it," Carcerano said.

Attorney Fred Morelli, who once represented Peterson, said he


never heard the knife claims about his former client.

"That's the first I've heard of that," Morelli said. "That's crazy. ...
(Peterson) was a very pleasant, personable fellow. Other than that,
I don't know."

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TheJackel EXCLUSIVE: Peterson's second wife tells her story


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EXCLUSIVE: Peterson's second wife tells her story
She recalls he threatened to kill her, make it look like an accident...
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Location: In the dumpster By Erika Slife | Tribune staff reporter
behind Krispy Kreme November 16, 2007
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For the last two weeks, Vicki Connolly has watched in disbelief and
with conflicting emotions as controversy swirls around her ex-
husband, Bolingbrook police Sgt. Drew Peterson.

She doesn't know whether he had anything to do with the


disappearance of his current wife, Stacy Peterson, who has been
missing since Oct. 28, or the death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio,
who died mysteriously in 2004.

But in the first interview granted by one of his ex-wives since


Stacy's disappearance, Connolly, 48, said Thursday that during
their marriage an increasingly controlling Peterson told her he could
kill her and make it look like an accident. While she couldn't believe
he would ever do it, something prompted her to confide in
Bolingbrook police officers who she considered friends. "So they
would know he said these things to me," she said.

She said Peterson would hit her but not hard enough to go to the
hospital, and not often enough for her to expect it. It made it
worse, she said, that she never knew it was coming. "It was mind
games; it was head games," she said.

Peterson, who did not return phone calls Thursday, has denied
being abusive to Savio or Stacy Peterson.

Police have described Peterson, 53, as a suspect in 23-year-old


Stacy's disappearance and are reinvestigating Savio's death. Will
County State's Atty. James Glasgow said her death appeared to
have been staged as an accident. Savio's body was exhumed
Tuesday.

Peterson, who is not charged with any crimes, has denied


involvement in both cases.

"He has the experience, the knowledge, the means, and the mind
to do that," she said, her voice trailing off. "That's all I've thought

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about. ... I'm still working through it. I'll be honest."

This much Connolly knows: She was married to Peterson for 10


years, beginning in 1982. They raised each other's children from
previous marriages. They operated a bar together. She stuck by
him through his infidelities and during legal problems in the 1980s
-- until she finally "caught him cheating on me with someone with
my own eyeballs."

"The thing with Drew Peterson, and I'm sure if [Savio and Stacy
Peterson] were here to comment they would say the same thing,
when it was good, it was wonderful, it was great," Connolly said.
"But when it was bad, it was really bad."

She met Peterson in a Bolingbrook bar in the early 1980s. She was
there with her friends to see a favorite band.

"This man, just oozing of confidence, he wanted to dance with me


and buy my girlfriends drinks," she recalled. "And he set his eyes
on me and it was like he was going to get me. He couldn't get me
to move in with him fast enough."

At the time, she was married, a relationship that was already


ending. She said it was only three or four months after her divorce
that she moved in with Peterson. He was so persistent, she said.

"He thought he took me away to a better life. He definitely felt that


way. It's ironic," she said. "In his eyes, he did believe that."

It's a pattern Peterson continued in his next two relationships, she


said.

Several days after his wife's disappearance, Peterson told the


Tribune that when he met Stacy, he had an "uncontrollable need to
take care of her." On Wednesday, Peterson told the "Today" show
that both Stacy and Kathleen came from troubled homes.

Henry Savio, Kathleen's older brother, disputed that assertion. "No,


we're OK," he said. "She was a very strong woman." He added that
Kathleen owned her own condo and worked as an accountant.

Connolly said she also was well off when she met Peterson. She had
a steady job at a bank and drove a new car. But she thought it was
romantic that he wanted to save her.

In hindsight, his motive is now clear, she said.

"I believe that man had a disease to his ego. He's a legend in his
own mind," she said.

The couple's honeymoon ended about two years after they were
married. He worked with the Metropolitan Area Narcotics Squad as
an undercover narcotics officer. He was a talented officer, she said,
and his success poisoned his outlook.

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"He really led a double life. But what fed his ego was his line of
work, how he could deceive people," she said. "When he'd come
home, he'd be the exact opposite. He could do it and he could do it
with no problems."

His zeal for his job, though, led to a brief downfall. According to
court documents, Peterson was fired in 1985 after the Bolingbrook
Fire and Police Commission found him guilty of official misconduct,
disobedience, failure to report a bribe and self-assigned police
action. At the time, he was working on a case against a reputed
drug dealer.

Connolly declined to comment on the case, but she said it was


during this time she learned of his first of many affairs. But she
forgave him.

In 1986, Peterson was reinstated after a Will County judge


overruled the commission's decision. And his controlling behavior
intensified, she said.

"We had bugs in our house. He put a microphone in our kitchen and
taped our conversations. He was cheating so much he wanted to
make sure I wasn't," she said. "His whole thing with us is that, 'I
need to know my family is safe at home and you're not going to be
doing anything you shouldn't be doing' -- and that enabled him to
do whatever he wanted."

When tensions would boil over, the police came to the house a few
times, she said, but added, "the police were our friends," and no
reports were filed.

Finally, about 1992, she had enough. By this time, he was already
having an affair with Savio, she said, and it was easy for them to
divorce. She called it amicable.

Now, although remarried and living on a farm Downstate, she still


feels resentment when looking back on her life with Peterson.

"We had such a great life and he blew it. It wasn't good enough for
him. He had four great wives who did everything for him. And it
was never enough for Drew Peterson."

Earlier Thursday, the Bolingbrook Police Pension Board voted


unanimously to give Peterson his pension, saying the law prohibited
it from taking any other action, even though one board trustee
expressed apprehension.

"While I understand the pension statutes, I'm not comfortable with


the decision we have to make today," Trustee Alyssia Lee said,
reading a prepared statement. "I am aware that if I am the only no
vote, Sgt. Peterson will receive his pension. Therefore my decision
is based solely on the statute."

Attorney Richard Reimer issued a news release explaining the board

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had no alternative but to grant Peterson's request for retirement


and give him his $6,067.71 monthly pension.

"While the trustees ... are sensitive to the intense scrutiny placed
on Sgt. Peterson and, unfortunately, the Village of Bolingbrook, the
Board is required to grant Sgt. Peterson's benefits without delay, as
to do otherwise would expose the trustees to liability for breach of
their fiduciary duties ...," the release stated.

A grand jury has subpoenaed witnesses in the Savio and Stacy


Peterson investigations. A source familiar with the cases said Drew
Peterson exercised his 5th Amendment rights when he appeared
last week.

State police searched a water-filled quarry Thursday and


coordinated a ground search with about two dozen of Stacy
Peterson's friends and relatives, finding nothing.

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fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but
not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a
defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will
succumb in every battle.”
“To win without fighting is best.”

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsley


belive they are free"
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Navigatr1 Vigil for missing mom steps up pressure on husband


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updated 11:00 p.m. EST, Sat November 17, 2007

Vigil for missing mom steps up pressure on husband


Registered: Jul 2003 http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/11/1...e.ap/index.html
Location:
Posts: 31403 Story Highlights
* NEW: Drew Peterson says wife's vanishing is hardest on his oldest
children
* Activists leave signs including "Where's our sister Stacy?"
Peterson's porch
* Body of Peterson's third wife was exhumed after his fourth wife
went missing
* Pathologist says Kathleen Savio "was the victim of a murder"

BOLINGBROOK, Illinois (AP) -- Armed with anger, hope and


candles, participants in a vigil for a former police officer's missing
fourth wife left a pink placard reading "Where's our sister Stacy?" --
along with several other signs -- on the man's porch Saturday.

Friends and family of Stacy Peterson leave signs on the portch of


the home she shared with her husband.

Former Bolingbrook police Sgt. Drew Peterson rumbled away on his


motorcycle before the vigil participants arrived but told reporters
afterward that the ordeal has been hard on his children.

The group of about 30 people, led by relatives of Peterson's third


wife -- whose death has come under renewed scrutiny since Stacy
Peterson's disappearance -- stood in front of his home anyway in
this middle-class Chicago suburb, clutching candles and demanding
answers.

"I miss Stacy, and I'm not giving up," said the missing woman's
younger sister Cassandra Cales, choking back tears.

Stacy Peterson, a 23-year-old mother of two, has been missing


since October 28, and police have named Drew Peterson as a
suspect in her disappearance.

The vigil came the same day an independent pathologist concluded


that the death of Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio, was a
homicide.

Savio was found dead in 2004 in a bathtub in her home, just a few
minutes' walk from the house Drew Peterson shared with Stacy.

Dr. Michael Baden, a former New York City chief medical examiner,
said he analyzed Savio's remains Friday at the request of her
relatives. He concluded that she died after a struggle and that her
body was placed in the tub.

Officials are now re-examining the circumstances of her death.

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Results of a separate, official autopsy will not be available for


several days, authorities said.

Peterson, 53, who resigned Monday, has not been named a suspect
in Savio's death. He has denied any involvement in either case and
said he believes his wife left him for another man and is alive.

After the vigil, Drew Peterson -- who has two children, ages 2 and
4, with Stacy Peterson and two teenage sons from his marriage to
Savio -- returned home and briefly looked over each of the signs on
his porch.

He told reporters that his wife's disappearance has been hardest on


his oldest children, who have to face questions at school.

"They're at that age where people like to tease and talk to them,"
Peterson said.

Asked what he planned to do for the next few days, Peterson


answered, "Live my life."

Henry Savio, Kathleen's brother, said at the vigil that when his
sister died, Bolingbrook police refused to accept that one of their
fellow officers could have been responsible. But Stacy Peterson's
disappearance changed that, he said.

"They said he didn't have any skeletons in his closet," he said.


"Well, now he does."

Savio's body was exhumed Tuesday at the request of Will County


State's Attorney James Glasgow, who has said after examining
evidence he believes her death was a homicide staged to look like
an accident.

The state's attorney's office allowed Baden to use the county


morgue for his work, and a state's attorney's investigator attended
the autopsy, spokesman Charles Pelkie said.

The color of bruises on Savio's body, much of which was preserved


because of clothing, indicate "blunt force" injuries shortly before
death, Baden said.

"It was consistent with a beating," he said.

Documents released by Savio's family indicate she believed, at least


briefly, that Drew Peterson would kill her: "He pulled out his knife
that he kept around his leg and brought it to my neck," she wrote
in a letter the family says was sent to prosecutors.

Pelkie said it remains unclear whether that letter ever was sent to
the office.

Attorney Fred Morelli, who once represented Peterson, said he


never heard the claims made in the letter about his former client.

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"That's the first I've heard of that," Morelli said. "That's crazy. ...
(Peterson) was a very pleasant, personable fellow. Other than that,
I don't know."

Baden is a regular contributor to "On The Record with Greta Van


Susteren," Fox News spokeswoman Diana Rocco said. Fox News
paid for his trip to Chicago in order for Baden to appear as a guest
on the show that evening, she said.

Baden said he met with about 10 Savio family members on Friday.


The family initially disagreed about whether Baden should talk to
the news media but later agreed he should, Baden said.

The family is "united in their love and search for justice" for Savio,
he said.

Stacy Peterson, shown here with her husband, was last seen
October 28. She is his fourth wife.
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Mack Sunday, November 18, 2007


Assistant Moderator Former officer's 3rd wife killed, doctor concludes
By CARLA K. JOHNSON
The Associated Press
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...peterson18.html

CHICAGO — Amid the search for a former police officer's fourth


wife, a renowned pathologist said Saturday he has examined the
third wife's exhumed remains and determined she was killed.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Former New York chief medical examiner Dr. Michael Baden said he
Posts: 5215 analyzed Kathleen Savio's remains at the request of her relatives,
who disagree with an earlier ruling that her death was an accident.
He concluded she died after a struggle, and her body was placed in
the bathtub where she was found.

"I'm convinced she was the victim of a murder," Baden said in a


telephone interview.

Results of a separate, official autopsy will not be available for


several days, authorities said.

Savio, 40, drowned mysteriously in March 2004, weeks before her


divorce settlement with Bolingbrook, Ill., police Sgt. Drew Peterson
was finalized.

A coroner's jury initially ruled that Savio's death was an accidental


drowning. But with Peterson's fourth wife missing for more than two
weeks, authorities are re-examining the circumstances of Savio's
death.

Peterson, 53, who resigned last week as a Bolingbrook police


sergeant, has not been named a suspect in Savio's death. But he is
a suspect in the disappearance of his fourth and current wife,
Stacy, 23, who was last seen Oct. 28 and whose case authorities
have called a possible homicide.

Peterson has denied involvement in either case and said he thinks


his fourth wife left him for another man.

Savio's body was exhumed last week at the request of Will County
State's Attorney James Glasgow, who has said that he thinks her
death was a homicide staged to look like an accident.

The state's attorney's office allowed Baden to use the county


morgue and a state's attorney's investigator attended the autopsy,
spokesman Charles Pelkie said.

The purplish bruises on Savio's body indicated she got them shortly
before she died, Baden said.

"It was consistent with a beating," he said.

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Baden said Fox News paid for his flight to Chicago so he could
examine the remains, with the family's consent.

Documents released by Savio's family indicate she believed, at least


briefly, that he would kill her: "He pulled out his knife that he kept
around his leg and brought it to my neck," she wrote in a letter the
family says was sent to prosecutors.

Pelkie said it remains unclear if that letter ever came to the office.

Attorney Fred Morelli, who once represented Peterson, said he


never heard the knife claims about his former client.

"That's the first I've heard of that," Morelli said. "That's crazy. ...
[Peterson] was a very pleasant, personable fellow. Other than that,
I don't know."

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Navigatr1 Ex-officer's lawyer challenges legitimacy of private autopsy on a former


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Ex-officer's lawyer challenges legitimacy of private autopsy


on a former wife
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11/19/2007

CHICAGO — An attorney for a former police officer suspected in the


disappearance of his current wife disputed Sunday a renowned
pathologist's recent conclusion that one of the man's previous wives
had been killed, not accidentally drowned.

The circumstances of how Drew Peterson's third wife died in 2004


has become part of the investigation into the former police
sergeant's missing wife, Stacy Peterson, a 23-year-old mother of

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two who has been missing since Oct. 28. Police say her 53-year-old
husband is a suspect in her disappearance, and authorities have
called the case a possible homicide.

The body of Drew Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio, was


exhumed from a suburban Chicago cemetery last week at the
request of a prosecutor, who has said after examining evidence he
believes her death was a homicide staged to look like an accident. A
separate, official autopsy was conducted, but the results will not be
available for days.

At the request of Savio's family, Michael Baden, a former New York


City chief medical examiner, conducted another autopsy on the
woman's remains on Friday and said he believed the 40-year-old's
death was not an accident, as a previous autopsy indicated. He
concluded she died after a struggle and that her body was placed in
the bathtub where she was found.

Drew Peterson's attorney questioned the legitimacy of Baden's work.

"The results of Dr. Baden's autopsy on Ms. Savio do not surprise us,
not because we believe they are accurate, but only because Dr.
Baden had indicated over a week before he had performed the
autopsy that he believed Kathleen's death was not an accident,"
lawyer Joel Brodsky said in a statement Sunday.

Drew Peterson, who resigned last week from the Bolingbrook police
force, has not been called a suspect in the death of Savio, from
whom he was divorced. He has denied any involvement in either
case and said he believes his wife left him for another man and is
alive.

His attorney also questioned a financial arrangement between the


forensic investigator and Fox News, which paid to fly Baden to
Chicago, where he conducted the autopsy for Savio's family.

Baden, who is often associated with high-profile cases including as


a defense witness in music producer Phil Spector's murder trial this
summer, said he performed Savio's autopsy for free.

"All we wish to say is that Kathleen's death should not be a source


of entertainment," Brodsky said.

In an interview Sunday with The Associated Press, Baden said his


initial conclusion that Savio was slain was based on his review of
her case. "They should have called it a homicide in the first place,"
he said.

He also defended his conclusion from the autopsy, saying it was not
influenced by his previous opinion or his position as a paid
commentator on Fox News.

"I had a pre-existing opinion before I did the exhumation. I did. But
that's why exhumations are done, to make sure the pre-existing

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opinions are correct," he said. "The findings are independent."

Baden is a regular contributor to "On The Record with Greta Van


Susteren," Fox News spokeswoman Diana Rocco said. Fox News
paid for his trip to Chicago in order for Baden to appear as a guest
on the show that evening, she said.

Peterson's other former wives have cast contrasting portraits of


him, saying he could be charming and supportive, then controlling
and abusive.

Speaking publicly for the first time, Peterson's first wife, Carol
Brown, told the Chicago Tribune for a story published Saturday
night that he never threatened or abused her during their six-year
marriage. But she said he could be controlling, and while she was
pregnant, she found out he had been cheating on her.

"I thought he always had respect for me, but I guess when you
stray in a relationship, you don't have respect for the person that
you were doing that to," she said.

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Navigatr1 Peterson Tips Keep On Coming


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Posted: Thursday, 22 November 2007 2:12PM

Peterson Tips Keep On Coming


Registered: Jul 2003 http://www.wbbm780.com/Peterson-Tip...-Coming/1242146
Location:
Posts: 31403 CHICAGO (AP) -- Former police sergeant Drew Peterson received an
unsigned letter describing a supermarket sighting of his missing wife,
Stacy Peterson, and has turned it over to investigators, according to his
attorney Joel Brodsky.
But a close friend of Stacy Peterson's family said she doubts the letter is
a legitimate tip.

Drew Peterson received the letter Wednesday, and didn't open it until
Thursday, the attorney said. Peterson, who has been named a suspect
by authorities investigating his 23-year-old wife's disappearance,
immediately called the Illinois State Police and his attorneys to notify

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them, Brodsky said.

The Chicago attorney said Peterson hopes the letter, which describes a
sighting of a possibly pregnant Stacy Peterson in Peoria, will lead
authorities to his wife.

Pamela Bosco, a close friend of Stacy Peterson's family, scoffed at the


idea.
"We got a letter saying she was seen in Florida," Bosco said. "She's
traveling an awful lot, isn't she?"

Bosco said the family has received "tons of letters," signed and
unsigned, from psychics and others claiming to know Stacy Peterson's
whereabouts.

"It doesn't mean anything," Bosco said. "It's up to police what they do
with these tips."

•Peterson's pension is in jeopardy after investigators discovered several


crimes unrelated to the disappearance of the 53-year-old's young wife
and mysterious drowning of his third wife, according to a report in
Thursday's Chicago Tribune.

Illinois State Police Captain Carl Dobrich told the Tribune 64 officers are
now assigned full-time to investigate the disappearance of Stacy
Peterson and the death of third wife Kathleen Savio.

Dobrich said in the course of the investigation, detectives discovered


evidence Drew Peterson may have violated Bolingbrook Police
Department policies.

Dobrich would not describe the alleged violations, but told the Tribune
they were serious enough to potentially trigger the loss of Drew
Peterson's $6,000 monthly pension. Under state law, a police officer's
pension may be denied or revoked only if the officer is convicted of a
job-related felony.

Peterson submitted his resignation last week, but Police Chief Ray
McGury refused to accept it, saying he wanted Peterson fired.
Bolingbrook's Police and Fire Commission later accepted Peterson's
resignation.

McGury didn't disclose specifics, but alleged Peterson committed


"severe" violations of departmental policies.
State police have named Peterson a suspect in his fourth wife's
disappearance, and Will County prosecutors have said the bathtub
drowning of Savio, 40, in March 2004 appeared to be staged to conceal
a homicide.

Tips are coming in from across the nation, and the cases are the
agency's top investigative priority, Dobrich said.

•A grand jury convened for the investigations met for the first time
Wednesday and heard testimony from Scott Rossetto, 35, a friend of
Stacy Peterson.

Police contacted Rossetto, a registered nurse from Shorewood, after

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finding phone records that connected him to Stacy Peterson. Rossetto's


brother dated her briefly in 2001.

Rossetto told reporters after his testimony that he and the now-missing
woman exchanged racy text messages that could have been
misinterpreted by her husband before she disappeared more than three
weeks ago.

Rossetto told reporters that he and Stacy were not having an affair. He
said they traded flirtatious text messages and e-mails.

"Some of the messages were quite perverted and flirty in nature, but
they were all meant in fun," Rossetto told The Chicago Sun-Times.
"(Was I) Interested in dating? No. Flirting? Yes."

Brodsky released a written statement on Thursday describing the letter


Drew Peterson said he received. It carried a Peoria, Ill., postmark and
was dated Nov. 19. It detailed an encounter the writer had with Stacy
Peterson on Nov. 12 at a Kroger grocery store, the attorney said in the
statement.

Stacy Peterson wasn't alone and might have been trying to be noticed,
the letter said. A man appeared to be with her. She was not shopping,
but was standing in the dairy section looking at the letter writer.

She appeared to have "a little pudge," the letter writer wrote, asking if
she was pregnant.

Brodsky declined to release the letter itself. "We don't want anything to
impede the investigation" he told The Associated Press

•People magazine has hit the news stands with Drew Peterson on the
cover.

He tells the publication he is bracing for his possible arrest.

Peterson describes in the magazine how the women in his life


disappointed him. He was the oldest of three children born to a "strict
ex-Marine" and a "diligent housewife." He told People magazine -- "I
expected all of my wives to be like my mom -- meticulous housekeepers
-- and they weren't."

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AVENGER I guess he's not man enough to do dishes himself? The penalty for an
Senior Member unclean home is death? I think this moron ought to keep his trap shut
before he convicts himself with is own Neanderthal comments. What a
twisted mama's boy.

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11-24-2007 08:16 AM

GC Marciano Report: Neighbor Told Police He Saw Drew Peterson, 2nd


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Man, Loading Barrel Into SUV
Friday, November 23, 2007

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312607,00.html

A neighbor of Drew Peterson told police he saw the husband of


missing mom Stacy Peterson and an unidentified man loading a
barrel "big enough to put someone in" into the former cops SUV,
sources told the Chicago Sun-Times.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Sources told the paper that police are searching for the second man
Posts: 9967 after the neighbor described the barrel as blue with a volume of
between 35 and 55 gallons, the paper reports.

Drew Peterson has been named a suspect by authorities


investigating his 23-year-old wife's disappearance.

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GC Marciano Cops ask: What was in the barrel, Drew?


Copwatcher Extraordinaire 2ND MAN SOUGHT | Sources say neighbor told police he saw Drew
Peterson and someone else loading barrel 'big enough to put
someone in' into former cop's SUV

November 23, 2007


BY JOE HOSEY Herald News

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...oling23.article

Registered: Jul 2003 A neighbor of Drew Peterson told police he spotted the former
Location: Chicago, Illinois Bolingbrook police sergeant and a second man loading a large blue
Posts: 9967 barrel into Peterson's sport utility vehicle hours after his young wife
was last seen alive, sources said.

The identity of the second man isn't known, a pair of police sources
said. "That's who we're looking for," one of the sources said.

That source described the barrel as blue with a volume of between


35 and 55 gallons. "Big enough to put someone in," the source said.

Stacy Peterson, the 5-foot-2, 100-pound wife of Drew Peterson


vanished Oct. 28. The 23-year-old mother of two was supposedly on
her way to help the boyfriend of her sister Cassandra Cales paint a
house in Yorkville but never arrived.

Since she was reported missing to State Police by her family,


troopers have executed a pair of search warrants at the couple's
Pheasant Chase Court home in Bolingbrook, seizing property
and two automobiles, including the GMC Yukon Denali that the
neighbor told police was used to carry the blue barrel, according to
sources.

Tests conducted on the Denali at the State Police laboratory have


not been completed, a source said. But another source said police
located pieces of blue plastic on the back end of the Denali.

Drew Peterson, 53, and his attorney did not return calls seeking
comment Thursday. Peterson has repeatedly insisted that his wife
left him, possibly for another man.

In recent weeks, Drew Peterson, his brother, Paul Peterson, and his
son, Oak Brook Police Officer Steve Peterson, have been called to
testify before a grand jury. Others who have testified include a
Shorewood man who traded sexually explicit e-mails and text
messages with Stacy Peterson in the weeks before she vanished.

That man, Scott Rossetto, a registered nurse, denies having carried

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on an affair with Stacy Peterson, but did say he met her at a


Bolingbrook Denny's nine days before she vanished. An uninvited
Drew Peterson interrupted the rendezvous, Rossetto said.

Police sources have said Rossetto, 35, is not a suspect in Stacy


Peterson's disappearance. But State Police Capt. Carl Dobrich has
said Drew Peterson is a suspect in his fourth wife's disappearance.
And although she has not been found, Dobrich has classified the
investigation as a "potential homicide."
Tip 'doesn't give us hope': family

A police source said they have "good information" Stacy Peterson


was killed and left in the Shorewood area near the home of
Rossetto. Another source said investigators believe the killer may
have attempted to frame Rossetto by putting the body by his town
house.

Master Sgt. Luis Gutierrez of the State Police would not comment on
the investigation or Shorewood searches. State Police have
canvassed the Shorewood area, showing residents photos of the
Denali and a second car owned by Drew and Stacy Peterson to see if
anyone had seen the vehicles recently.

Meanwhile Thursday, Drew Peterson's attorney told the Associated


Press that his client received an unsigned letter on Wednesday
describing a Nov. 12 sighting of Stacy Peterson in Peoria. The
anonymous letter writer said he saw her in the dairy section of a
Kroger supermarket.

Drew Peterson didn't open the letter until Thursday, when it was
turned over to State Police.

Stacy Peterson's relatives doubted the reliability the letter.

"It doesn't give us hope," family spokeswoman Pam Bosco. "Stacy


looks like a lot of people."

Bosco also questioned why the tipster would not sign the letter and
noted a telephone tipline established after Stacy Peterson's
disappearance had yielded at least one purported sighting of Stacy
in Florida. "She's traveling an awful lot, isn't she?" Bosco said.

Family members will remain skeptical of any tips until police can
confirm them. "We're waiting for the police to tell us they've found
her," Bosco said.

Drew Peterson, who served 29 years with the Bolingbrook police


department, resigned earlier this month after he was called to
appear for an internal affairs interview.

Bolingbrook Police Chief Ray McGury, who has said the retired
sergeant "brought shame on the department," has contacted the
Will County state's attorney's office to pursue felony official
misconduct charges against Peterson, said Lt. Ken Teppel, the
department's spokesman.

State Police also are probing the mysterious March 2004 death of

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Navigatr1 Former Cop Drew Peterson ‘Ready’ To Be Arrested


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Former Cop Drew Peterson ‘Ready’ To Be Arrested


http://www.efluxmedia.com/ news_For... /> _10948.html

Registered: Jul 2003 20:25, November 23rd 2007


Location:
Posts: 31403 by Chris Georg

Former Bolingbrook’s police sergeant Drew Peterson, whose wife


vanished without a trace three weeks ago, said in one of the numerous
interviews he’s had since, that he is "prepared" to be arrested, Chicago
Sun-Times reported.

Peterson, who’s already talked to TV commentator Greta Van Suseren,


Geraldo Rivera, NBC’s Matt Lauer, told People magazine in a five-page
story that although he had nothing to do with his fourth wife Stacy’s
disappearance, he expects police to come after him.

"I believe the state's attorney and the cops will be under scrutiny if they
don't arrest me, so I'm prepared for it," the self-proclaimed "media
sensation" said in the story.

The 53-year-old is considered a suspect in the October 28


disappearance of his 23-year-old spouse, who reportedly called him the
night she disappeared saying she’s leaving him. Explaining the situation,
Peterson blamed their marital conflicts, and his wife’s repeated demands
for a divorce, on the mood swings she experienced during her period.

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"That was a reality," he told People. "If she was PMSing, hungry or
tired, her emotions were high."
While admitting "I'm not a perfect man by any means," Peterson said
media coverage of the case has been distorted.

Police are also investigating the death of Peterson's third wife, Kathleen
Savio, whose drowning in 2004 is now considered by some officials to
have been a homicide.

"You're only seeing my dirty laundry. You don't see all the positive
things I've done," he said, professing to be overwhelmed by the public
and media interest in the fates of his two most recent wives.

According to his lawyer, Peterson recently received a letter which said


his missing wife was spotted in Peoria, but close people to Stacy are
skeptical about the news.

"I'm sure Stacy looks like a lot of people," family spokeswoman Pam
Bosco said. "We want Stacy to come home. But this is anonymous, and
we won't believe it until we get a call from police with Stacy in hand."

Since Stacy was last seen dressed in a red jogging suit on the morning
of October 28, her case has made national news.

"I never wanted this type of attention," he added.

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Navigatr1 FBI Joins Search for Missing Ill. Wife


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FBI Joins Search for Missing Ill. Wife


FBI to Help With Search for Missing Wife of Former Illinois Police
Sergeant
Registered: Jul 2003 http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3908908
Location:
Posts: 31403
By CARLA K. JOHNSON Associated Press Writer
CHICAGO Nov 24, 2007 (AP)

The FBI will join the search for the wife of a former suburban police
sergeant, whom authorities have called a suspect in her disappearance
nearly a month ago, a spokesman for the federal agency said Saturday.

The FBI's involvement comes at the request of the Illinois State Police,
which is leading the investigation into the disappearance of Stacy
Peterson, 23, from the couple's home.

The case has led prosecutors to re-examine the 2004 death of Drew
Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio. Authorities have said her death
may have been a homicide staged to look like an accidental drowning.

Savio's body was exhumed for a new autopsy. The state's attorney's
office said it could be a couple weeks before investigators have results
from tests on her remains.

Peterson, 53, who has not been called a suspect in Savio's case, has
denied any wrongdoing in her death and has proclaimed his innocence
in Stacy Peterson's disappearance.

He has said he believed his 23-year-old wife left him for another man.

FBI spokesman Ross Rice said the agency has no reason to believe
federal laws were broken, which would give it jurisdiction. But it has
agreed to help in the case, he said.

Charles Pelkie, a spokesman for the Will County state's attorney, said
FBI investigators will be briefed Monday by the state police. The FBI's
involvement will add manpower to the investigation and provide
technical assistance during water searches, he said.

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are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of their
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GC Marciano Re: Former Cop Drew Peterson ‘Ready’ To Be Arrested


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
quote:

Originally posted by Navigatr1


"I never wanted this type of attention," he added.

Registered: Jul 2003


Of course not. You'd rather people not know that you are a double
Location: Chicago, Illinois murderer.
Posts: 9967
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be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment resulting from crimes
committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind of fundamental right
contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme Court

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11-25-2007 01:31 PM

GC Marciano Pastor says Stacy Peterson told him she feared her husband
Copwatcher Extraordinaire before disappearance
Associated Press
November 29, 2007

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?se...ocal&id=5801939

(BOLINGBROOK, Ill.) - The missing wife of a former police officer


told a clergy member two months before she disappeared that she
feared her husband, a church official said Thursday.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Stacy Peterson requested the late August meeting with a member of
Posts: 9967 the Westbrook Christian Church pastoral staff when the church
made a routine call to see why she and Drew Peterson had not
attended services in recent months, Rob Daniels, the church's pastor
of spiritual formation, told The Associated Press.

"She feared for herself because of her husband," Daniels said.

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Asked whether Stacy Peterson was afraid her husband would kill
her, Daniels would only say she feared "bodily harm." Authorities
say Drew Peterson is a suspect in his fourth wife's disappearance
and have called her case a possible homicide.

Drew Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, did not immediately return


messages Thursday from The Associated Press.

The church official made a "judgment call" not to alert authorities


and did not consult with other church staff, Daniels said. The
church's clergy are only legally mandated to alert authorities of
allegations of child abuse or if someone threatens to harm
themselves or others, he said.

"Anything that would come up in a conversation that maybe one of


our guys was having with someone in Stacy's situation, it would be
a situation where it would be a judgment call," Daniels said.

The Illinois State Police did not return messages left late Thursday.

The clergy member made his decision based on several


circumstances, Daniels said, "in particular, the fear she had for
herself, not to alert any kind of authorities."

Daniels would not identify the clergy member who met with Stacy
Peterson or say where the meeting took place, other than it was not
at the church. Daniels also would not reveal specific details of the
conversation, but he said church officials only learned of it on
Thursday.

Stacy and Drew Peterson and their children occasionally attended


services at the church from 2004 to January 2007 but then stopped
coming, Daniels said. The church, which is less than a mile from the
Peterson home, has served as a headquarters for several volunteer
searches for Stacy.

Church officials have not made any decision on whether they need
to review how the church handled the situation, Daniels said.

Also in August, Stacy made a "frantic call" to her sister Cassandra


Cales, a spokeswoman for Stacy Peterson's family said Thursday.

Stacy Peterson wanted Cales to ask close family friend Pamela


Bosco if Stacy could take her children to live with Bosco's relatives
in California, Bosco said during a nightly briefing she holds outside
Drew Peterson's home.

Nothing ever resulted from the call, but Bosco said it indicated to
her that Stacy -- who had been talking of marital problems for
several months -- grew especially concerned in August.

"She was looking at different avenues to move and leave this


marriage, this difficult relationship," Bosco said.

Investigators are also re-examining the 2004 death of Drew


Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio. Police have said her death
may have been a homicide staged to look like an accidental bathtub

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drowning.

Peterson, 53, has denied wrongdoing, saying he believes 23-year-


old Stacy Peterson left him for another man and is alive. Peterson
has since resigned from the Bolingbrook police force.

Stacy Peterson was last seen by her relatives on Oct. 28.

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11-30-2007 02:50 AM

mr.b Illinois Police Accused of Protecting Their Own. YOU THINK!!!


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Peterson case shakes trust in local police


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...BA?OpenDocument

By Don Babwin
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
12/02/2007
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: CALIFORNIA Despite 18 domestic disturbances in a previous marriage, the missing
Posts: 1072 woman's husband — then a police sergeant — wasn't charged.

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. — Eighteen times in two years, police were called to


fellow officer Drew Peterson's home because of trouble between
husband and wife. But Peterson's wife could never get authorities to
arrest him. In fact, she was the only one ever charged.

Now residents of this Chicago suburb are wondering whether police


were protecting one of their own — and whether they bear some
responsibility for what happened next.

Peterson's wife at the time of the domestic disturbance calls, Kathleen


Savio, was found dead in 2004 under mysterious circumstances. And
now his current wife, Stacy, is missing and feared slain.

The way Bolingbrook police dealt with Peterson "makes it kind of hard to
trust cops," said Pablo Delira, 59, a construction worker. He said he had
no doubt he would have been led away in handcuffs if police had been

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called to his house 18 times.

Kim Camplin, who works in the clothing business, said Bolingbrook


police should have taken the domestic disturbance calls more seriously.

"It doesn't matter if it's a fireman, a policeman or a clergyman — all it


should take is one call and it should be taken seriously," she said. "What
faith can we have in the system?"

Peterson, 53, was a police sergeant and 29-year veteran of the force,
resigning earlier this month after he came under suspicion in his current
wife's disappearance in October.

In a roughly two-year period beginning in 2002, police responded to 18


domestic disturbance calls at Peterson's house. Savio accused Peterson
of beating her and threatening to kill her, but no charges were ever
brought against him.

Instead, Peterson twice persuaded prosecutors to charge Savio with


domestic battery. She was acquitted both times.

Police Lt. Ken Teppel said that in all 18 instances, police had conducted
a thorough investigation. He said a department inquiry had found no
indication that officers had done anything wrong or violated procedure.

But Teppel acknowledged that the case had damaged the department's
reputation.

"There is a distrust ... that this is going to be covered up," he said. "It's
so hard to get over that."

Savio was found dead in her bathtub in 2004, and a coroner's jury ruled
it an accidental drowning. But since Stacy Peterson's disappearance,
investigators have re-examined Savio's death and exhumed her body,
and said they now believed it was a homicide made to look like an
accident.

Drew Peterson has not been named a suspect in Savio's death. But
authorities said he was suspected in Stacy Peterson's disappearance.
Drew Peterson has denied any wrongdoing in either case and said he
believed his current wife left him for another man and was still alive.

Savio and Stacy Peterson were Peterson's third and fourth wives,
respectively. He and wives No. 1 and 2 divorced.

Vicki Connolly, Peterson's second wife, has said that during their
marriage, Peterson became increasingly controlling and had hit her and
told her he could kill her and make it look like an accident.

Connolly said police sometimes came to the house when the couple
were having problems, but she said that the officers were friends of
theirs and that no reports ever were filed.

The Bolingbrook department has handed the Peterson investigation over


to the Illinois State Police — standard practice in criminal cases
involving a member of the force.

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Even so, Paul Long, 29, a flight dispatcher who has lived in Bolingbrook
for two years, said only one thing would restore residents' faith in
police: an arrest and conviction.

"Until that," Long said, "(residents) will be on edge."

Not everyone in the community of about 70,000 blames the department.

"I haven't lost one iota of trust in the police department," said Stephen
DeFreeuw, a 16-year resident. "One rogue cop."

Teppel said street cops in the 122-member department were being


reminded about the proper way to handle domestic calls and were being
told they were expected to adhere to the rules, no matter who answers
when they knock on the door.

Teppel said Police Chief Ray McGrury had made it clear: "There are no
favorites."

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11-30-2007 05:30 PM

GC Marciano Re: Illinois Police Accused of Protecting Their Own. YOU THINK!!!
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
quote:

Originally posted by mr.b


Now residents of this Chicago suburb are
wondering whether police were protecting one of
their own - and whether they bear some
responsibility for what happened next.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
Who's wondering? It's quite obvious that they have protected this
murderous piece of shit for years and are continuing to do so.

Somebody tell me with a straight face that if Drew Peterson was not
a cop he would not have been arrested and charged already.

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11-30-2007 05:53 PM

GC Marciano Re: Illinois Police Accused of Protecting Their Own. YOU THINK!!!
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quote:

Originally posted by mr.b


In a roughly two-year period beginning in 2002,
police responded to 18 domestic disturbance calls
at Peterson's house. Savio accused Peterson of
beating her and threatening to kill her, but no
charges were ever brought against him.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois ...
Posts: 9967
Vicki Connolly, Peterson's second wife, has said
that during their marriage, an increasingly
controlling Peterson hit her and told her he could
kill her and make it look like an accident.
...

Investigators have re-examined Savio's death and


exhumed her body, and said they now believe it
was a homicide made to look like an accident.

Hmmm... I wonder what could have happened?

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11-30-2007 05:58 PM

GC Marciano http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/02/missing.wife/index.html?
Copwatcher Extraordinaire iref=mpstoryview#cnnSTCText

Peterson denies asking truckers to take package


3:28 p.m. EST, Sun December 2, 2007

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/02/mi...view#cnnSTCText

CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) -- Drew Peterson is denying that he


approached two truck drivers and asked them to transport a
Registered: Jul 2003 package hours after his wife disappeared in October.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
Peterson, a former police sergeant in Bolingbrook, Illinois, near
Chicago, is suspected in the disappearance of his wife, Stacy.
Peterson has said he believes she ran off with another man.

According to a statement released by Illinois police, two truck


drivers reported that a man resembling Peterson and another white
man asked the truck drivers "to transport a package to an
undisclosed location." The other man was described by the truck
drivers as stocky with salt-and-pepper hair, and in his early 50s.

The men approached the truck drivers at a Bolingbrook truck stop


October 29 at 3:30 p.m., according to the report.

"Upon reaching the location, the men would regain possession of the
package and continue transporting it to a location not accessible by
semi-trailers," the report stated.

The report did not say if the truck drivers agreed to transport the
package.

"There is absolutely, positively, 100 percent no validity to this,"


Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, said.

The truck drivers "may have some motivation, trying to insert


themselves into a high-profile case," Brodsky said. "They may be
concocting some sort of scheme to sell their story to a tabloid."

Illinois State Police released the statement Saturday, asking anyone


who may have had a similar encounter to contact them.

Brodsky said in a statement that the Illinois police released the


statement because they have no evidence against Peterson so they
"are relegated to following every lead, no matter how remote or
ridiculous it may seem."

Peterson, 53, has said he last spoke to 23-year-old Stacy Peterson


-- the sergeant's fourth wife -- the night of October 28. She has
been missing ever since.

Authorities are now re-examining the death of Peterson's previous


wife, Kathleen Savio, who was found drowned in a bathtub in 2004.
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Authorities exhumed Savio's body after information turned up that


raised questions about her death, Will County State's Attorney
James Glasgow said.

Drew and Stacy Peterson have been married four years and have
two children. Drew has other children from a previous marriage.

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be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment resulting from crimes
committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind of fundamental right
contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme Court

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liberranter Re: Re: Illinois Police Accused of Protecting Their Own. YOU THINK!!!
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quote:

Originally posted by GC505

Somebody tell me with a straight face that if Drew


Peterson was not a cop he would not have been
arrested and charged already.

Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 That much is obvious. Any mere citizen would already be in jail,
denied bail, and awaiting trial for far less serious charges.

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pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive silence of
good police officers that makes possible the ever-accumulating
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values more, it will lose that too.
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GC Marciano Re: Re: Re: Illinois Police Accused of Protecting Their Own. YOU THINK!!!
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quote:

Originally posted by liberranter


Any mere citizen would already be in jail, denied
bail, and awaiting trial for far less serious
charges.

Registered: Jul 2003


Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 ...And with far less evidence pointing to his guilt.

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Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the officer, this
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be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment resulting from crimes
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12-03-2007 06:02 PM

Navigatr1 Log reveals troubled relationship between police officer's 3rd, 4th wives
Extended Sabatical

Log reveals troubled relationship between police officer's 3rd,


4th wives
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=88003&src=109
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Associated Press
Posts: 31403
Published: 12/1/2007 6:40 AM

A former Bolingbrook police officer's third and fourth wives had a history
of animosity, including an incident where one allegedly punched the
other in the face, according to a police call log released Friday.

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Drew Peterson's ex-wife, Kathleen Savio, was later acquitted of charges


that she struck Stacy Peterson in May 2002 because the younger
woman was in the car during a child custody exchange.

Police responded to 19 calls for help in less than two years involving
fellow officer Drew Peterson, Savio, his ex-wife who was found dead in
2004, and Stacy Peterson, his current wife who is missing and feared
slain.

The calls show the three were embroiled in a bitter custody battle. No
charges were ever brought against Drew Peterson, but he twice
persuaded prosecutors to charge Savio with domestic battery. She was
acquitted both times.

Savio called police in December 2002 to notify them she had sent Stacy
Peterson a certified letter advising that she could be arrested for
trespassing. Savio also claimed in September 2003 that Stacy Peterson
had called her "several derogatory names" while Drew Peterson dropped
off the children.

Peterson, 53, was a police sergeant and 29-year veteran of the force.
He resigned earlier this month after he came under suspicion in his
current wife's disappearance in October.

Peterson has denied any involvement in his wife's disappearance and


has said he believes she ran off with another man and is alive. He was
never charged in Savio's death.

Savio claimed in July 2002 that Drew Peterson broke into the house and
held her against her will, the call log shows. She did not want to file a
complaint but the report was forwarded to state's attorney for review.

Savio also showed up at Peterson's home in April 2002 and allegedly


started removing items from his truck. When he came outside, the log
says she started hitting him the back. In May 2002 Drew Peterson told
police that Savio "struck him, spit at him, and pushed him in the back,"
but he did not want her arrested.

Many of the calls involved Savio or Drew Peterson complaining about


alleged violations of a child custody agreement. For example, twice in
September 2003 Savio said Drew Peterson did not drop the kids off on
time.

Bolingbrook Police Lt. Ken Teppel has said that in all the calls, police
conducted a thorough investigation. A department inquiry found no
indication officers did anything wrong or violated procedure, he said.

Volunteers say they will resume the search for Stacy Peterson Saturday,
and it will become a combined search for Peterson and Lisa Stebic, who
disappeared from her nearby Plainfield in April.

Log summary

Feb. 2, 2002: Domestic Trouble -- Mutual argument between Drew and


Kathleen. Drew left the residence. Kathleen's attorney was advised by
supervisor.

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May 3, 2002: Domestic Trouble -- Drew took the vehicle that Kathleen
was driving (both were registered owners and still married). Vehicle was
returned by Drew at 392 Pheasant Chase.

May 3, 2002: Domestic Battery, Disorderly Conduct -- Drew stated that


Kathleen struck him, spit at him, and pushed him in the back. Drew did
not want Kathleen arrested.

May 26, 2002: Battery -- Kathleen punched Stacy in the face because
she was in the car when Drew was attempting to drop the kids off.
Kathleen was arrested. Independent witnesses. Drew kept children.
Kathleen charged and record was expunged by court order.

May 26, 2002: Domestic Trouble -- Kathleen complaining that she had
sole custody of children. No such specification in court order. Drew kept
children.

June 25, 2002: Visitation Interference -- Drew claiming that Kathleen


would not turn over kids. Logged and referred to his civil attorney.

July 5, 2002: Criminal Trespass, Unlawful Restraint, Domestic Battery --


Kathleen claimed Drew broke into the house, and held her against her
will. This was reported two weeks after the date of occurrence on 7-18-
2002. Kathleen did not wish to file a complaint but report was forwarded
to state's attorney for review.

July 11, 2002: Visitation Interference -- Kathleen claiming Drew was


violating a court order. Logged for documentation.

Dec. 5, 2002: Well Being Check, Visitation Interference -- Kathy


claiming Drew is outside pounding on door. Kathleen states the kids are
sick and she will not give them to Drew. Logged for documentation,
referred to their attorneys.

Dec. 5, 2002: Alleged Violation of Order of Protection, Visitation


Interference -- Drew upset he was not getting kids. No Order of
Protection had been issued by the court. Logged for documentation.

Dec. 20, 2002: Notification -- Kathleen called advising she sent Stacy a
certified letter advising that she will be arrested for trespass for future
violations. Logged for documentation.

Jan. 2, 2003: Notification -- Kathleen called stating that the kids had a
late doctor's appointment and that she would not make the scheduled
drop off time to Drew. Logged for documentation.

Feb. 18, 2003: Citizen Assist -- Drew wanted to pick up kids. Kathleen
stated they were sick and she was not turning them over. Logged for
documentation.

June 2, 2003: Residential Burglary -- Kathleen believes someone


entered the rear sliding glass door and took her diamond wedding ring
and a pair of diamond earrings out of her bedroom and a camera out of
the kitchen. Drew denies any involvement. No witnesses or evidence.

Sept. 4, 2003: Visitation Interference -- Kathleen claims Drew did not

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drop the kids off on time. Logged for documentation.

Sept. 9, 2003: Visitation Interference -- Kathleen upset that Drew is 10


minutes late in dropping off the children. Logged for documentation.

Sept. 9, 2003: Disorderly Conduct -- Kathleen claims Stacy called her


several derogatory names while Drew was dropping off the children.
Referred to the state's attorney's office for complaints.

Nov. 11, 2003: Visitation Interference -- Kathleen claiming Drew has


children too long. Logged for documentation.

April 28, 2002: Domestic Battery -- Kathleen showed up at Drew's


residence and starting removing items from Drew's truck. Drew came
outside and Kathleen started hitting him in the back. Drew filed a report
but never followed up with state's attorney for charges.

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GC Marciano Peterson Under Investigation for Police Misconduct


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Police Department Alleges the Former Sargeant Ran Background
Checks on Wife's Friends
Dec. 03, 2007

ABC News has learned the Bolingbrook Police Department has


evidence that Drew Peterson, a former sergeant there, used
department computers to run background checks on friends and
associates of his missing fourth wife, Stacy.

Registered: Jul 2003 Drew Peterson is not only a suspect in his fourth wife's
Location: Chicago, Illinois disappearance and his third wife's death, the former police officer is
Posts: 9967
now under investigation for police misconduct, ABC News has
learned.

The Bolingbrook Police Department, where the 53-year-old was a


sergeant, has turned over evidence to prosecutors that alleges
Peterson used department computers to track private citizens not
under active police investigation.

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The evidence alleges that Peterson ran ID and background


information on friends and associates of his wife, Stacy Peterson,
before she disappeared, as well as other people. It's an allegation
that may have nothing to do with the disappearance of Stacy
Peterson, but if proved could cost Drew his $6,000-a-month police
pension.

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, says the allegations are untrue.

"Drew denies that he has used the computers or the databases in


any unauthorized manner," Brodsky said, "and that every usage of
the computers by him was authorized or allowed under their rules
and regulations."

Sources said Peterson can be tied to the allegedly improper


computer searches at the police department through his personal
login. But Peterson's attorney says this is just retribution by the
Bolingbrook police chief, who has called his former employee an
embarrassment to the department.

Brodsky said he has written the Illinois attorney general to complain


of vindictive, selective prosecution.

"It was common practice for members of the Bolingbrook Police


Department and employees to run warrant checks and name checks
for friends, for family members, and even to run prank names,
rather risque prank names, when they would get bored in the
evening," Brodsky said. "And so if they were to prosecute Drew for
doing anything like that, they would have to prosecute probably
most of the employees and officers of the Bolingbrook Police
Department for the same thing."

ABC News contacted the Bolingbrook Police Department for


comment, but received no response.

Call to Truckers

Illinois State Police released a statement Saturday saying a man


who resembled Peterson was seen with another man at a truck stop
on the day Stacy Peterson went missing, asking truckers to
transport a package.

"What you're asking us to believe is that somebody who had just


committed a serious offense is now running around and involving
ah, strangers, family members, all involving them in the cover-up of
this crime. Which just runs counter to common sense," Brodsky
said.

The state police is appealing to truckers for any other similar


sightings. Peterson has personally denied to ABC News any truck-
stop requests.

He has not been charged with any crime, but his house has been
searched twice, cars confiscated and he has been named a suspect
by investigators. His attorney insists an arrest is not imminent and
has asked authorities to return his guns.

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Peterson, who set up no trespassing signs this weekend on his


property, says he is worried about intruders.

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Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the officer, this
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be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment resulting from crimes
committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind of fundamental right
contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme Court

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12-06-2007 08:27 PM

GC Marciano Investigators Execute Warrant on Ex-Cop


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Police Execute Another Search Warrant in Former Police Officer's
Wife's Disappearance

By SCOTT MICHELS
Dec. 6, 2007

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3964730&page=1

Police searching for Stacy Peterson appear have focused on the GPS
Registered: Jul 2003 navigation system of her husband's sport utility vehicle, according to
Location: Chicago, Illinois a search warrant obtained by ABC News.
Posts: 9967
Illinois State Police served a search warrant Tuesday night indicating
that they planned to examine two of Drew Peterson's vehicles and
seize physical evidence, including items containing blood, hair,
fingernails, bodily fluids or "other biological material which may be
evidence of the offense of first degree murder."

The warrant also said the police were looking for any indication that
Peterson, a former suburban Chicago police officer, may have
moved a plastic barrel or storage container in the SUV.

Stacy Peterson, 23, was last seen Oct. 28. Authorities have called
the case a potential homicide, naming her 53-year-old husband as a
suspect. A relative of Peterson's reportedly helped him move a
heavy container out of his home and put it the sport utility vehicle
the day his wife vanished.

Peterson's lawyer, Joel Brodsky, has denied the allegation, according


to The Associated Press.

Peterson has repeatedly denied involvement in his wife's

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disappearance. He has said that he believes that Stacy Peterson left


him for another man.

Police have previously searched Peterson's home and have seized


some of his property, including computers, a 2002 Pontiac Grand
Prix and a 2005 GMC Yukon Denali driven by Drew Peterson. An
earlier search warrant indicated that police were searching for
records from the company that made the GPS system in Peterson's
Denali.

The latest warrant, first reported by the Chicago Tribune, says that
the police intend to search Peterson's GPS system, which "contains
data in a format that is not easily obtained or seized."

It says that police were looking for plastic shavings, blue plastic,
lead weights and other objects with scuff marks, circular
impressions or any other indication that Peterson had a "plastic or
barrel-like object or large storage container" in the SUV.

It also says police are looking at anything that could help them place
Peterson's car at a specific location, such as dirt, gravel and soil.
Cops are also looking for guns, ammunition, knives, ropes, carpet,
or anything else that may have been used as a "weapon or
restraint."

The warrant seeks objects that "have any of the following on them:
blood, hairs, fingernails, bodily fluids, body tissue, DNA, fingerprints,
fingernail scrapings, palm prints, saliva, urine, feces, or other
biological material which may be evidence of the offense of First
Degree Murder."

Peterson's lawyer, Joel Brodsky, did not immediately return a call for
comment. He told the Chicago Tribune, which first reported on the
latest search warrant, that the recent warrant only corrected a
mistake in an earlier search warrant.

He said the first warrant only authorized the search of Peterson's


vehicles, not the seizure of the items.

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12-06-2007 08:30 PM

GC Marciano Friend: Relative Moved Peterson's Body


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Friend Says Ex-Officer's Relative Told Him He Helped Move Stacy
Peterson's Body
Dec 06, 2007 (AP)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3937480

Former police officer Drew Peterson paid a relative to help him


move a large container from a bedroom on the day
Peterson's wife vanished, according to a friend of the relative.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Walter Martineck said on NBC's "Today" Friday and in an interview
Posts: 9967 with the Chicago Tribune that on the day the rectangular container
was moved, his friend Thomas Morphey told him he thought Stacy
Peterson's body was inside it because the container was
warm.

"He was real frantic. I could tell he'd been drinking a little," said
Martineck, who said he has known Morphey for 19 years. "He put his
hands on my shoulders and says, 'You can't tell no one. I know she
was in there.'"

Martineck also said Morphey, who is Peterson's stepbrother, tried to


give him the money that Peterson paid him, but said he refused it
and did not know how much it totaled.

Martineck's account follows reports confirmed by Bolingbrook police


that Morphey tried to commit suicide Oct. 29, the day after Stacy
Peterson disappeared. He did so because "he was just afraid of his
family's life," Martineck told NBC.

Peterson has been named a suspect in the disappearance of Stacy


Peterson, his fourth wife, by the Illinois State Police, which has said
it is investigating the case as a possible homicide. Authorities are
also investigating the death of Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio,
and have said they believe her drowning death was a murder staged
to look like an accident. Peterson has not been named a suspect in
Savio's death.

Peterson has denied any involvement in his wife's disappearance


and has said he believes she ran off with another man and is alive.
He also has said he and Morphey never moved any container.
Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, has said Morphey has a history of
mental problems.

Savio and Stacy Peterson had a history of animosity, according to a


police call log released Friday. Police responded to 19 calls for help
in less than two years involving Savio and the Petersons.

The calls show the three were embroiled in a bitter custody battle.
No charges were ever brought against Drew Peterson, but he twice
persuaded prosecutors to charge Savio with domestic battery. She
was acquitted both times.

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Savio was acquitted of charges that she punched the other woman
in the face in May 2002 because she was in the car during a child
custody exchange.

Volunteers said they will resume the search for Stacy Peterson on
Saturday, and it will become a combined search for Peterson and
Lisa Stebic, who disappeared from nearby Plainfield in April.

"Any of these places (that volunteers are searching for Peterson)


would be relevant to the search for Lisa," said Melanie Greenberg,
Stebic's cousin. "I hope one of our families gets closure and
resolution."

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Mack quote:
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Originally posted by GC505

Police searching for Stacy Peterson appear have


focused on the GPS navigation system of her
husband's sport utility vehicle, according to a search
warrant obtained by ABC News.

Registered: Jul 2003


An earlier search warrant indicated that police were
Location: searching for records from the company that made
Posts: 5215 the GPS system in Peterson's Denali.

The latest warrant, first reported by the Chicago


Tribune, says that the police intend to search
Peterson's GPS system, which "contains data in a
format that is not easily obtained or seized."

This worrisome. I wonder how long it will be before GPS systems, like
cellphones, are required to have tracking built in.

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liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by Mack

This worrisome. I wonder how long it will be


before GPS systems, like cellphones, are required
to have tracking built in.

How long will it be before ALL vehicles are required by law to be


Registered: Jun 2005
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I've already decided that NO car that I ever own will be so equipped,
and if I should buy a new vehicle in which it is standard equipment,
I'll rip it out.

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JOEL BRODSKY | Police calls, suspension of law license uncovered
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...-atty08.article
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: December 8, 2007
Posts: 31403
BY JOE HOSEY Herald News

Chicago attorney Joel Brodsky has the hottest case in the country.

His client, former cop Drew Peterson, has appeared as a guest on


network television and as a subject in supermarket tabloids.
Brodsky himself followed suit, showing up on the "Today" show and
other news programs covering the disappearance of Peterson's wife,

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Stacy, who has not been seen since Oct. 28.

Initially, Brodsky welcomed the publicity. But now, Brodsky, who is


50 and has practiced law for 25 years, says he got more than he
bargained for. He receives hate mail, is besieged with interview
requests, and in recent weeks, reporters have focused on his own
background.

Among other incidents, they found several police reports over the
years, including three domestic calls, one involving a SWAT team
responding to Brodsky's Wilmette home.

According to a report of the Sept. 2, 2002, incident involving a


"suicidal person," Brodsky's wife, Elizabeth Brodsky, told police
"Joel Brodsky was in the house armed with a shotgun."

He had gone to his car to get a shotgun, police said. Elizabeth


Brodsky "screamed at [her daughters] to get their shoes and leave
now," the report said. "Mr. Brodsky exclaimed, 'That's right. You
leave, get out of here, now I'm going to do it right and blow my
head off with this shotgun.'"

No one was arrested.

The Brodskys admit they were arguing but say the matter was the
result of miscommunication and that police portrayed it inaccurately.

Joel Brodsky said he never planned to harm himself.

"I'm in my living room watching TV. Next thing I know, I'm getting
a call from a hostage negotiator," Brodsky said.

"Most of this stuff is blown out of proportion," Elizabeth Brodsky


said.

In 2004, an Illinois disciplinary board suspended Brodsky's law


license for three months after he signed a dead man's name to
close the inactive bank account of a client's estate, public records
show. Brodsky signed the dead man's name again to cash a
$23,000 check from that account. But the Illinois Supreme Court
agreed with a review board that Brodsky did not commit forgery
because he did not intend to defraud anyone.

Brodsky says it was the challenge of fighting the tide of public


suspicion that attracted him to Peterson's situation.

''There has to be a voice out there saying, 'Whoa. Wait a second.


Let's look at the facts,'" he said.

Brodsky got involved with the Peterson case after contacting


Peterson following the former Bolingbrook police officer's
appearance on the "Today" show.

Brodsky said he told his wife: "That would be an interesting case. I


could do that case."

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He said he expects no arrest or charges against Peterson in Stacy


Peterson's disappearance or in the death of Peterson's third wife,
Kathleen Savio, whose body was exhumed for another autopsy in
the wake of the Stacy Peterson investigation.

Peterson has not been named a suspect in Savio's death. Brodsky


stresses that prosecutors have found no evidence of a crime in
either case.

Sun-Times News Group

Contributing: AP

Joel Brodsky says he has gotten hate mail and been besieged
by interview requests since becoming Drew Peterson’s
attorney.
(AP)
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GC Marciano Pastor: Cop told fourth wife he killed third wife


Copwatcher Extraordinaire 9:03 a.m. EST, Tue December 11, 2007

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/12/1...ref=mpstoryview

BOLINGBROOK, Illinois (AP) -- A former police officer's missing


wife once confided in a pastor that her husband admitted killing
his third wife, the pastor said.

Former Illinois police officer Drew Peterson is considered a


Registered: Jul 2003 suspect in the disappearance of his fourth wife.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Former Westbrook Christian Church pastor Neil Schori told Fox
News Channel's Greta Van Susteren in an interview broadcast
Monday that Stacy Peterson told him in August that her
husband, Drew Peterson, admitted killing his previous wife,
Kathleen Savio.

Schori said he asked Stacy Peterson, Drew Peterson's fourth


wife, to clarify what she had said and she responded, "'He killed
Kathleen."' Schori said the conversation occurred when he and
Stacy Peterson met at a coffee shop.

Savio's body was found in her bathtub in 2004 and her death
initially was ruled an accidental drowning. After Stacy Peterson
disappeared in October, prosecutors opened another
investigation into the Savio case, and said it appears her death
was a homicide staged to look like an accident. Drew Peterson
has not been named a suspect in her death.

Stacy Peterson offered enough detail to be credible, said Schori,


who declined to discuss the details in the interview.

"But it was very clear that this was not just speculation," he
said. "She was not jumping to conclusions."

Joel Brodsky, Peterson's attorney, did not immediately return


an after-hours phone message seeking comment from The
Associated Press. But he said on the Fox program that "I'd love
to get to cross-examine (Schori) because there are a lot of
problems with his story."
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Schori said he thought Stacy Peterson never shared the


information about Savio with police. Asked why Stacy Peterson
chose to stay with her husband after learning about his former
wife's death, Schori said, "My guess would be out of fear."

Although he has not been arrested or charged, Drew Peterson,


53, has been named a suspect in Stacy Peterson's
disappearance by Illinois State Police, who have labeled the
case a possible homicide.

Stacy Peterson was last seen October 28 and was reported

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missing by her family the next day. Drew Peterson, a member


of the Bolingbrook Police Department until he quit after his wife
went missing, has denied any involvement in her
disappearance. He has said he believes his wife left him for
another man and is alive.

Last month, the Westbrook Christian Church's pastor of spiritual


formation told The Associated Press that Stacy Peterson
requested an August meeting with a member of their pastoral
staff when the church made a routine call to see why she and
Drew Peterson had not attended services in recent months.

The church official made a "judgment call" not to alert


authorities and did not consult with other church staff, Rob
Daniels said.

At the time he spoke to the AP, Daniels would not identify the
clergy member who met with Stacy Peterson or say where the
meeting took place.

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Online Defense Fund Seeks Financial Support From the Public
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3984528
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: By JIM AVILA, BETH TRIBOLET and CHRIS FRANCESCANI
Posts: 31403
ABC News Law & Justice Unit

Dec. 11, 2007 —

Seeming to anticipate his own arrest, Drew Peterson has turned to


the Internet, seeking cyberbucks for a legal defense fund in the still-
mysterious disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy.

"I hope this will bring some money in,'' Peterson's attorney, Joel
Brodsky, told ABC News' Law & Justice Unit. "Drew is not a rich
man and this case will be expensive."

Peterson has repeatedly denied involvement in his wife's


disappearance. He has said that he believes that Stacy Peterson left
him for another man. Legal experts call the online defense fund
highly unusual, if not unprecedented, because the former police
officer has not been charged with a crime.

"I can't remember it ever being done before,'' said veteran defense
attorney Mickey Sherman, who represented Michael Skakel, a
nephew of Ethel Kennedy, in the sensational Greenwich, Conn., trail
for the murder of Martha Moxley.

"But I can't think of any place it's more appropriate than here.
We're doing 'he's-not-a-suspect-he's-a-person-of-interest' thing, I
know, but clearly, this guy is going to be charged at some point
soon, and if he's not, he's still going to need a boatload of money
for his lawyers," Sherman said.

The launch of the online defense fund, called Defenddrew.com, has


"disgusted'' the family of missing mother Stacy Peterson, 23, who
was last seen Oct. 28.

"I'm disgusted, the family is disgusted,'' said spokeswoman Pam


Bosco. "I even talked to the police, and they are disgusted,'' she
said Tuesday, after reviewing the site.

The site is an emotional plea for financial support from a man who
feels he's been victimized by police pressure and a media witch
hunt.

"Attention-grabbing headlines have forced both Drew and the


children into the spotlight,'' the site reads. "For the cost of a few
cups of your morning coffee, you can help to ensure that Drew can
afford to support his ongoing legal defense, find his missing wife,
and divert any remaining funds into a trust for his children. Our
legal system is built upon the fundamental truth that you are

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innocent until proven guilty. The media has decided to


sensationalize this story and the collateral damage is never-ending."

Suspicion has swirled around Drew Peterson since virtually the start
of the investigation.

Recently, a local pastor reported that he'd once heard Stacy


Peterson blurt out in a diner that her husband had killed his third
wife, Kathleen Savio.

Former Westbrook Christian Church pastor Neil Schori told Fox


News Channel's Greta Van Susteren Monday that Stacy Peterson
told him in August that her husband, Drew Peterson, admitted
killing Savio, his third wife. Savio's body was found in her bathtub
in 2004, and her death was initially ruled an accidental drowning.
After Stacy Peterson disappeared in October, prosecutors opened
another investigation into the Savio case and said it appears her
death was a homicide staged to look like an accident.

Drew Peterson has not been named a suspect in her death. In


addition to a legal defense fund, the site seeks money to hire a
private investigator to help find Stacy, and pledges that any
leftover money be put into a trust for Drew's four children. Last
week, investigators plunged the icy depths of an Illinois canal
looking for evidence of the young woman's disappearance.

Despite an intensifying air of anticipation surrounding the case,


authorities have yet to charge Peterson with any crime.

Police have previously searched Peterson's home and have seized


some of his property, including computers, a 2002 Pontiac Grand
Prix and a 2005 GMC Yukon Denali driven by Drew Peterson. An
earlier search warrant indicated that police were searching for
records from the company that made the GPS system in Peterson's
Denali.

The latest warrant, obtained last week by ABC News, said that the
police intend to search Peterson's GPS system, which "contains data
in a format that is not easily obtained or seized."

It says that police were looking for plastic shavings, blue plastic,
lead weights and other objects with scuff marks, circular
impressions or any other indication that Peterson had a "plastic or
barrel-like object or large storage container" in the SUV.

It also says police are looking at anything that could help them
place Peterson's car at a specific location, such as dirt, gravel and
soil. Cops are also looking for guns, ammunition, knives, ropes,
carpet, or anything else that may have been used as a "weapon or
restraint."

The warrant seeks objects that "have any of the following on them:
blood, hairs, fingernails, bodily fluids, body tissue, DNA,
fingerprints, fingernail scrapings, palm prints, saliva, urine, feces or

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other biological material which may be evidence of the offense of


first degree murder."

"Drew and his children should not have to lose everything


accumulated in 30 years of public service,'' the Web site message
concludes. "Drew and his children risk losing their life savings,
house, automobiles, and may end up impoverished, all by simply
defending himself against allegations."

The site bills itself as a the Official Drew Peterson Defense Fund --
People For Justice.

"He's obviously feeling the heat,'' Bosco said. "He believes he is


going to court."

Embattled Illinois police sergeant Drew Peterson has


launched an online defense fund, seemingly anticipating his
arrest in the disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy
Peterson. (defenddrew.com )
http://a.abcnews.com/images/TheLaw/...w_071211_ms.jpg

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


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their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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TheJackel Look like they have suspended the website... I tried to hit it and it
DOUGHNUT MAKER - cream comes up as suspended.
with that sir?

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Navigatr1 Ex-Cop Drew Peterson Launches Web Site for Defense Fund After Wife
Extended Sabatical Disappears

Ex-Cop Drew Peterson Launches Web Site for Defense Fund


After Wife Disappears
Registered: Jul 2003 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316469,00.html
Location:
Posts: 31403 Tuesday, December 11, 2007

By Melissa Underwood

CHICAGO — Drew Peterson, a suspect in his 23-year-old wife's


disappearance, wants the public to help fund his legal defense.

The former Bolingbrook, Ill., police sergeant launched a Web site


Tuesday seeking donations to help pay his legal fees, as well as pay
for a private investigator to search for his wife, Stacy Peterson, who
has been missing since Oct. 28.

"For the cost of a few cups of your morning coffee, you can help to
ensure that Drew can afford to support his ongoing legal defense,
find his missing wife and divert any remaining funds into a trust for
his children," the Web site says.

But Stacy Peterson's family believes the site is just a ploy to get
money, not to help find the mother of two.

"What will this man do next?" Pamela Bosco, a spokeswoman for


Stacy Peterson's family, told FOXNews.com. "It's all part of his plan.
He's a very manipulative man; he has been all the way."

The site, DefendDrew.com, offers several options for donation


amounts, ranging from $5 to $250.

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"We are not asking you to decide whether or not Drew Peterson is
guilty, but in the United States of America, one should be able to
defend one's self without the losing everything (sic)," according to
the site.

Officials have named Drew Peterson a suspect in Stacy Peterson's


disappearance, but he has not been arrested or charged. Bosco said
she believes it's just a matter of time before he's in handcuffs.

"Drew obviously had something to do with Stacy's disappearance,"


Bosco said. "What he did with her, we have no idea."

Stacy Peterson was reported missing after she failed to show up at


a friend's house. Her 53-year-old husband says she left him for
another man, but Stacy Peterson's family says she would never
leave her children behind.

Any money collected for Drew Peterson's defense fund will go first
to legal fees and hiring a private investigator to find Stacy Peterson,
said Joel Brodsky, Drew Peterson's attorney. Any remaining funds
will go to a trust fund for the Petersons' children.

“If you believe that a person should be able to defend themselves


properly, then Drew needs a hand,” Brodsky said. “If we don’t get a
hand, then there’s going to be a fairly weak defense.”

He said Drew Peterson needs help to fund his defense against the
hundreds of investigators working the case against him.

“Do you believe that somebody should be steamrolled because this


case has become a media sensation, or do you believe that
everybody should have a fair shot, that there should be an equal
playing field?” Brodsky asked.

The Web site says that Drew and his four children, two of whom are
from a previous marriage, need help.

"Drew and his children should not have to lose everything


accumulated in thirty years of public service," it says on the site.
"Drew and his children risk losing their life savings, house,
automobiles and may end up impoverished, all by simply defending
himself against allegations."

Meanwhile, a team of FBI special agents, Illinois State Police and


other law enforcement authorities are searching canals for any
signs of Stacy Peterson.

Bosco said she did not know what specific clues led officials to
search the area. There is a lot of debris in the water, and search
teams are awaiting sonar equipment for a more extensive search.

There is a $25,000 reward for any information leading to an arrest


in Stacy Peterson's disappearance.

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AP

Nov. 19: Former Bolingbrook police officer Drew Peterson


leaves his home on his motorcycle in Bolingbrook, Ill.
Peterson's wife 28 year old Stacy Peterson was reported
missing on Oct. 29.

Nov. 19: Former Bolingbrook police officer Drew Peterson


leaves his home on his motorcycle in Bolingbrook, Ill.
Peterson's wife 28 year old Stacy Peterson was reported
missing on Oct. 29.
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12-11-2007 11:07 PM

liberranter That REALLY doesn't bode well for Ol' "Disappear'em" Drew.
Super Moderator
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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
Location: Tucson, AZ accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Posts: 5865 Grigg

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AVENGER "Attention-grabbing headlines have forced both Drew and the


Senior Member children into the spotlight,'' the site reads. "For the cost of a few
cups of your morning coffee, you can help to ensure that Drew can
afford to support his ongoing legal defense, find his missing wife,
and divert any remaining funds into a trust for his children. Our
legal system is built upon the fundamental truth that you are
innocent until proven guilty. The media has decided to
sensationalize this story and the collateral damage is never-ending."

Registered: Feb 2007 This scumbag is the one who has forced himself into the spotlight
Location: This is hell. via his own attention-grabbing antics. He has sensationalized this
Posts: 679 story with his egotistical blathering.

"Drew and his children should not have to lose everything


accumulated in 30 years of public service,'' the Web site message
concludes. "Drew and his children risk losing their life savings,
house, automobiles, and may end up impoverished, all by simply
defending himself against allegations."

They meant, "...stolen in 30 years of public victimization." I love

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how this loser is suddenly all about his children. Hey, Drew, no
amount of money will buy your children a new mother, scumbag.
What happened to this idiot's Playgirl spread? A dose of reality as
he sat listening to the laughter from the other end of the line? The
only women who find this guy even remotely attractive are needy
women looking for a father figure or a meal ticket. That's why he
marries naive girls he met when they were seventeen.

By the way, the site's back up.

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12-12-2007 10:45 AM

liberranter Isn't it the height of breathtaking hypocrisy to listen to the


Super Moderator swine and their defenders blather about "innocent until proven
guilty" and "no one should have to suffer catastrophic financial
losses in order to defend themselves?" This from the very
people who serve as judges, jury, and, very often, executioners
of innocent citizens on a daily basis and whose out-of-control
behavior under the guise of "enforcing the law" and "ensuring
officer safety" result in the catastrophic destruction of citizen
property and lives, all with nary a thought or ounce of
compunction.

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Fuck you, Drew. You're a murdering scumbag, and everyone
Location: Tucson, AZ knows it. Your own arrogance gave your crimes away and it was
Posts: 5865 only a matter of time before you were exposed for what you
are. No jury will be corrupted or tampered with so thoroughly
as to not see you for the criminal that you are and will find you
guilty as charged. I sincerely hope that your "defense fund"
doesn't net dime one.

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"And this brings us to a point that has to be driven home with


the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
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Drew and his children risk losing their life
savings, house, automobiles and may end up
impoverished, all by simply defending himself
against allegations.

Registered: Jul 2003 Notice that he never put up any websites begging to financially
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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defend and/or support the people he put in the same position
over the past 30 years, yet when he slaughters two innocent
young women he expects the same public that he spent 30+
years victimizing to come rushing to his aid by giving him their
hard-earned money.

I sincerely hope people are not that stupid.

Fuck you Drew. With any luck somebody will do to you what
you did to your two wives. Your kids (and the world) are better
off without you.

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liberranter I sincerely feel for Peterson's kids. I cannot imagine what it


Super Moderator must feel like to have lived for years under the same roof with
with an abusive, bullying, misogynistic, murdering piece of shit,
knowing they are its progeny. Those kids are gonna need years
of intense psychotherapy.

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GC Marciano Drew Peterson says he's been shunned, betrayed


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Erika Slife and Matthew Walberg | Tribune staff reporters
December 7, 2007

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...hi_tab01_layout

Apparently, it's not easy being Drew.

Drew Peterson said Thursday he would rather be remembered


for something positive than something that would result in his
Registered: Jul 2003 picture being plastered on a pinata.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 That creation was on display Saturday at a prayer vigil held for
Peterson's wife, Stacy, 23, who vanished Oct. 28. Illinois State
Police soon named Peterson, 53, a suspect in the case, which
has been labeled a possible homicide.

Since then, Peterson, an ex-Bolingbrook police sergeant, has


become infamous.

"I'd rather be a celebrity for something good," Peterson said.


"They snuck me in and out for the 'Today' show. I remember
sitting in the New York airport, and all of a sudden there was
my face on TV."

In a telephone interview Thursday, Peterson talked about why


he wouldn't join searches or vigils for his missing wife, and
about the friends and former police colleagues who now shun
him. He has denied any wrongdoing and has not been charged
with a crime.

"It's like they had this vigil for Stacy, and the next thing you
know there's a pinata with my face on it," he said. "All these
policemen who were my friends, and I would have jumped in
front of a bullet for, don't even talk to me."

Peterson has not participated in any searches since his wife


disappeared and has contended she ran off with another man.

On Thursday, his former friend, Ric Mims, acknowledged selling


his story to the National Enquirer.

Earlier in the day, Mims appeared before a special grand jury


investigating the Stacy Peterson case.

Peterson chalked up Mims' deal with the Enquirer as just


another moment of "et tu Brute?"

"I've befriended him, he was just some street kid ... and all of a
sudden he was here -- my best friend," he said. "I went ahead
and let him watch the house when I couldn't be here, and then
he's changing sides."

Peterson claimed Mims has been looking for a way to profit

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since Stacy disappeared.

"The first couple days after this happened, he kept saying, 'How
can we make money on this?'" he said.

Mims scoffed at the allegation. He said it was his cell phone bill
and big heart that motivated him to talk to the Enquirer. Mims
said he would pay his $480 phone bill, most of which came from
talking to reporters, then donate the proceeds to the Benefit for
Stacy Peterson charity, which will fund the ongoing search.

"I have not profited from this. This whole thing has cost me
money," he said.

He wouldn't say how much the Enquirer paid him. Mims also
declined to discuss the grand jury investigation.

Should that investigation lead to charges, Peterson's attorney,


Joel Brodsky, said any alleged evidence from Peterson's vehicles
may be tossed out by a judge on the grounds it was illegally
seized. Peterson's vehicles were towed Nov. 1, when the first
search warrant was executed. But, according to copies of the
warrants, the first one authorized only the search -- not the
seizure -- of the vehicles.

Brodsky said investigators tried to rectify their mistake in a


warrant served Tuesday by including language that authorized
seizure of the vehicles, which remain in police custody.

Richard Kling, a clinical professor of law at Chicago Kent with


nearly four decades of criminal defense experience, said while
there are reams of case law stating items need not be searched
where they are found, Brodsky's argument could have merit.

"The 4th Amendment and the cases that interpret it say that in
order for a search and seizure to be valid, the premise to be
searched and the things to be seized have to be specified with
particularity, other than those things which are in plain view,
such as contraband," Kling said. "He may have a point that the
first search warrant is problematic because it didn't describe
that the cars were able to be seized."

After reviewing copies of the search warrants, Kling said it


appears investigators pieced together a detailed theory about
how Stacy Peterson's body could have been disposed of.

"It's pretty clear that either somebody from the police has come
up with this wonderful hypothesis about how the car was used,
the body disposed of, or they have witnesses who are giving
them what they believe is credible information [and are] looking
for specific items," Kling said.

Some categories were broadened in each subsequent search


warrant, and others were more narrowly defined. One example

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is a section in the second warrant authorizing seizure of


"chemicals or chemical containers having the quality to dissolve
biological evidence, caustic in nature, or having the qualities of
a preservative." In the latest warrant, the language was
changed to "objects with chemical traces relating to pool
chemicals or any chemical which might be utilized to either
******, mask or accelerate the deterioration or decomposition
of a human body."

"You have to assume that the judge is not issuing warrants on


somebody's fantasy conjecture," Kling said. "You have to
assume that the judge knows the law, and that if he's issuing
warrants, they're based on specific information."

When Peterson was asked Thursday about going from cop doing
the investigating to being investigated, he said: "I gotta go
now. It's very ugly being on the other side."

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GC Marciano Federal Lawsuit filed against Drew Peterson for brutality:


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Barber says Drew Peterson broke his thumb

December 18, 2007


BY STEFANO ESPOSITO AND DAN ROZEK Staff Reporters

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/...w121807.article

A Bolingbrook barber is suing former police Sgt. Drew Peterson,


claiming Peterson broke the barber’s thumb at the Bolingbrook
Registered: Jul 2003 police station in May, according to lawsuit filed in federal court
Location: Chicago, Illinois this week.
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Timothy Brownlee’s attorney, Jon Loevy, said Tuesday: “Mr.
Brownlee has a broken thumb and he has a cast and medical
records to prove it. He’s a barber working full-time, minding his
own business — not someone with any felony convictions.”
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A Bolingbrook police spokesman said today that Peterson wasn’t


involved in the alleged incident. “We’re 100 percent sure it’s not
Drew Peterson,” said Bolingbrook police spokesman Chris
Prochut.

Reached at his home, Peterson also denied having anything to


do with the alleged assault.

The allegations stem from an incident May 28, when Brownlee


was at home preparing for a barbecue. Police officers, but not
Peterson, arrived to investigate a dispute between Brownlee
and his elderly neighbor, according to the lawsuit.

At some point during the investigation, police accused Brownlee


of giving them a false name, the suit states. Even though
Brownlee didn’t lie about his identity, he was arrested and taken
to the police station, according to the suit.

While at the station, Brownlee was placed in a holding cell,


“wearing nothing but his tank top,” according to the suit. At one
point, Peterson and two other officers then grabbed Brownlee,
dragging him to the booking area by his legs, the suit says.

One of the officers handcuffed Brownlee, and Peterson then


“grabbed his right thumb and twisted it, breaking it. (Brownlee)
immediately experienced terrible pain,” according to the federal
suit.

Bolingbrook police have reviewed videotape of a scuffle in the


booking area that Prochut said showed Brownlee’s injuries
occurred while officers were trying to restrain him.

Brownlee was taken to a hospital, and later charged with


disorderly conduct and obstruction of justice, the suit alleges.

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Four months later, the criminal charges were dropped. Prochut


said the department conducted an internal investigation, but
Brownlee refused to cooperate and no officers were disciplined.

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GC Marciano Peterson denied return of property


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Police seized several items from his home during probe
By The Associated Press

http://www.thonline.com/article.cfm?id=184168

JOLIET, Ill. (AP) -- Even as he took in stride a judge's Monday


decision not to order the return of guns and other items seized
from Drew Peterson's home, the former police sergeant's lawyer
had bigger worries than one decision in one courthouse.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois "As I stand here today, I do not believe Sgt. Peterson could get
Posts: 9967 a fair trial anywhere in the United States," Joel Brodsky said of
his client, who has been named a suspect -- but has not been
charged -- in his wife's disappearance, which authorities have
called a possible homicide.

Stacy Peterson's late October disappearance has garnered


international media attention and has become a staple for cable
television shows. And Brodsky said there has simply been too
much "prejudicial information" released about Peterson, from
details about his previous marriages to his law enforcement
career.

"Every day a new piece of information comes out that paints my


client in a bad light," he said. "It's kind of ridiculous."

So Brodsky took a step to fight the barrage of information that

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has been released -- illegally, he says -- to the media.

Brodsky said Monday he wants a special prosecutor to look into


leaked information from a grand jury convened in the
investigations of Stacy Peterson's disappearance and the death
of Drew Peterson's ex-wife, calling the leaks "prodigious to say
the least."

The Will County grand jury has been hearing what is meant to
be sealed testimony, but many details have appeared in media
reports, often attributed to unnamed sources.

"It is obvious to anyone who watches the television news-based


entertainment media, especially certain television cable
channels, that there is a serious and continuing leak of
information emanating from these Special Grand Jury
proceedings concerning Sgt. Drew Peterson," Brodsky wrote to
Will County Judge Daniel Rozak.

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12-18-2007 07:27 PM

GC Marciano Drew Peterson Shuts Down Web Site


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Defense Fund Shut Down Days After It Went Online
By JIM AVILA, BETH TRIBOLET & CHRIS FRANCESCANI
Dec. 12, 2007

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3992098&page=1

It didn't take long for Drew Peterson to get what he wanted


from the Web site he launched to raise money for a legal
defense fund in the still-mysterious disappearance of his fourth
Registered: Jul 2003 wife, Stacy.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 The site was shut down Wednesday, and his lawyer, Joel

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Brodsky, told ABC Chicago affiliate WLS that they had already
achieved their short-term goals from the site.

He wouldn't say, however, how much money they might have


raised in the time the site was in operation.

The site, which had contained an emotional plea for financial


support from a man who said he felt victimized by police
pressure, and a media witch hunt, now simply says, "This
Domain (defenddrew.com) Has Been Disabled."

Peterson has repeatedly denied involvement in his wife's


disappearance. He has said that he believes that Stacy left him
for another man. Legal experts called the online defense fund
highly unusual, if not unprecedented, because the former police
officer has not been charged with a crime.

Brodsky told ABC News' Law & Justice Unit the cyberplea for
support was needed.

"Drew is not a rich man, and this case will be expensive," he


said.

"Attention-grabbing headlines have forced both Drew and the


children into the spotlight,'' the short-lived site read. "For the
cost of a few cups of your morning coffee, you can help to
ensure that Drew can afford to support his ongoing legal
defense, find his missing wife, and divert any remaining funds
into a trust for his children.

"Our legal system is built upon the fundamental truth that you
are innocent until proven guilty. The media has decided to
sensationalize this story, and the collateral damage is
neverending."

Suspicion has swirled around Peterson since virtually the start


of the investigation into the disappearance of his 23-year-old
wife, who was last seen on Oct. 28.

Recently, a local pastor reported that he'd once heard Stacy


blurt out in a diner that her husband had killed his third wife,
Kathleen Savio.

Former Westbrook Christian Church pastor Neil Schori told Fox


News Channel's Greta Van Susteren, Monday, that Stacy
Peterson told him in August that her husband admitted killing
Savio.

Savio's body was found in her bathtub in 2004, and her death
was initially ruled an accidental drowning. After Stacy Peterson
disappeared in October, prosecutors opened another
investigation into the Savio case, and said it appeared her death
was a homicide, staged to look like an accident.

Drew Peterson has not been named a suspect in her death.

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In addition to a legal defense fund, Peterson's site sought


money to hire a private investigator to help find Stacy, and
pledged that any leftover money would be put into a trust for
Peterson's four children. Last week, investigators plunged the
icy depths of an Illinois canal, looking for evidence of the young
woman's disappearance.

Police previously searched Peterson's home and seized some of


his property, including computers, a 2002 Pontiac Grand Prix,
and a 2005 GMC Yukon Denali. An earlier search warrant
indicated that police were searching for records from the
company that made the GPS system in Peterson's Denali.

The latest warrant, obtained last week by ABC News, said that
police intend to search Peterson's GPS system, which "contains
data in a format that is not easily obtained or seized."

It also said that police were looking for plastic shavings, blue
plastic, lead weights, and other objects with scuff marks,
circular impressions, or any other indication that Peterson had a
"plastic or barrel-like object, or large storage container" in the
SUV.

And, according to the warrant, police are looking at anything


that could help them place Peterson's car at a specific location,
such as dirt, gravel and soil. Cops are also looking for guns,
ammunition, knives, ropes, carpet, or anything else that may
have been used as a "weapon or restraint."

The warrant seeks objects that "have any of the following on


them: blood, hairs, fingernails, bodily fluids, body tissue, DNA,
fingerprints, fingernail scrapings, palm prints, saliva, urine,
feces or other biological material, which may be evidence of the
offense of first-degree murder."

"Drew and his children should not have to lose everything


accumulated in 30 years of public service,'' the Web site
message concluded. "Drew and his children risk losing their life
savings, house, automobiles, and may end up impoverished, all
by simply defending himself against allegations."

The site billed itself as the Official Drew Peterson Defense Fund
— People For Justice.

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme

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12-18-2007 07:31 PM

GC Marciano Drew Peterson’s son appears before grand jury


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Lane Kelley,
Tue Dec 18, 2007, 09:55 AM CST

http://www.chicagosuburbannews.com/...age/x1863117762

Oak Brook, IL - One of Drew Peterson’s sons testified before a


Will County grand jury Thursday investigating the
disappearance of his father’s fourth wife and drowning of his
third spouse.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Oak Brook police officer Stephen Peterson, 28, appeared before
Posts: 9967 the grand jury for three hours.

Stephen Peterson refused to comment about the testimony and


did not return calls seeking comment.

Drew Peterson, 53, is a former Bolingbrook officer and a


suspect in the suspected homicide of his 23-year-old wife,
Stacey, who disappeared Oct. 28. Drew Peterson believes his
wife left him for another man and is alive.

Illinois State Police Trooper Mark Dorencz said last week


Stephen Peterson and some other Oak Brook officers have been
interviewed about the incident, but none of the officers are
suspects.

Oak Brook police officer George Peterson, not related to Drew


or Stephen Peterson, was asked by Suburban Life if he had
been questioned by state police.

“I am unable to discuss matters with the media,” George


Peterson said, referring further questions to Oak Brook Police
Chief Tom Sheahan.

Sheahan has said he is cooperating with state police and none


of his officers are suspects in the case.

The grand jury is investigating not only Stacey Peterson’s


disappearance but also the 2004 drowning of Kathleen Savio,
Drew Peterson’s third wife.

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A coroner’s jury ruled Savio’s death was accidental, though


family and friends believe she was murdered. A second autopsy
on Savio has been conducted, but Will County Coroner Patrick
O’Neil said this week it will be at least a month before
toxicology tests are completed. O’Neil said he will not make the
results public but will turn them over to Will County State’s
Attorney James Glasgow.

“He (Glasgow) may decide to make some or all of the results


public, but the final results are not in yet,” said Chuck Pelkie,
state’s attorney spokesman.

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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12-18-2007 07:33 PM

GC Marciano Bank Records: Drew Peterson Funneled $250G to Son


Copwatcher Extraordinaire After Wife's Disappearance
Sunday, December 16, 2007

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316943,00.html

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. — Ex-police sergeant Drew Peterson


transferred nearly a quarter of a million dollars to his son
in the weeks after the disappearance of his wife, Stacy
Peterson, in November.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Prosecutors subpoenaed bank records that show Drew Peterson
Posts: 9967 funneled the money to his son, Steve Peterson, an Oak Brook,
Ill., police officer, after Stacy Peterson was reported missing on
Oct. 28.

Steve Peterson twice has testified before a grand jury


investigating the disappearance of Stacy Peterson, 23, a mother
of two, but declined to comment on the financial transactions.

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Sources said Drew Peterson, 58, transferred to Steve Peterson


nearly $250,000 from several bank accounts, including joint
accounts he held with his wife. He reportedly wrote as many as
six checks, with one for more than $150,000, investigators said.

Drew Peterson declined to comment but his attorney, Joel


Brodsky, said, "I’m sure if that’s true, and I don’t even know
whether or not it is, I’m sure that there are legitimate reasons
for it."

One legal expert said the former Bolingbrook, Ill., police


sergeant may be trying to protect his assets in case he is sued.

The sister of Kathleen Savio, Drew Peterson’s third wife who


was found dead in an empty bathtub, said the family is
considering filing a wrongful death lawsuit against Drew
Peterson, who was in the process of divorcing Savio at the time
of her death in 2004.

Savio’s death was ruled an accident, but her body was exhumed
after new questions surfaced during the investigation into Stacy
Peterson’s disappearance.

A second autopsy was performed and new evidence suggests


she may have been murdered, authorities said.

State police also are seeking a new search warrant for


additional cell phone records relating to Drew Peterson.

"When you get into a grand jury investigation where they’re


going over the same area two and three times, that to me …
shows you that they don’t have anything or what they have is
extremely confusing and contradictory," Brodsky said.

Brodsky said he is not worried about what is found on the


records.

Stacy Peterson was reported missing after she failed to show up


at a friend's house. Drew Peterson claims she left him for
another man, but Stacy Peterson's family says she would never
leave her children behind.

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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12-18-2007 07:36 PM

liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by GC505

The site was shut down Wednesday, and his


lawyer, Joel Brodsky, told ABC Chicago
affiliate WLS that they had already achieved
their short-term goals from the site.

He wouldn't say, however, how much money


they might have raised in the time the site
was in operation.
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865

My dollar goes down on the bet that his pathetic, cheesy


website didn't raise dollar one and that he had to shut it down
because 1) his hosting site was flooded with complaints from
other clients who objected to having their sites hosted on the
same server with that of a murdering scumbag pig, and 2)
Peterson's broke ass couldn't pay the few pathetic dollars it cost
to keep the site up and running.

I guess Drew's eventually gonna have to rely on the "services"


of a public defender, just like the hundreds of unfortunate
citizens whom he fucked over while hiding arrogantly behind his
tin badge, thinking he'd forever literally get away with murder.
Karma's a real bitch, right, Drew?

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the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
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it values more, it will lose that too.
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12-18-2007 08:24 PM

Navigatr1 Man says Drew Peterson broke his thumb


Extended Sabatical

man says PETERSON broke his thumb


FEDERAL LAWSUIT
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/...RSON_S1.article
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: December 19, 2007
Posts: 31403
By JOE HOSEY Staff Writer

BOLINGBROOK -- Drew Peterson's third wife drowned accidentally,


he says his fourth wife ran off with another man, and that guy with
the broken thumb? Peterson says he wasn't even working when
that happened.

Still, Peterson, a suspect in the disappearance of wife No. 4, now is


the subject of a federal lawsuit in the case of the broken thumb.

Timothy Brownlee, 35, a barber working in Joliet, filed suit against


Peterson and two other unidentified Bolingbrook cops, accusing
them of excessive force, assault and battery, failure to intervene,
false arrest, conspiracy, malicious prosecution and committing a
hate crime.

Peterson says they have the wrong guy.

"They already disproved it, and I wasn't even working that night,"
he said.

The department backed up its recently retired sergeant, with Cmdr.


Chis Prochut saying, "It was not Drew."

"There was a sergeant who was present there," Prochut said. "But
they don't even really look alike."

But Brownlee says he saw Peterson on television news reports


about the case of Drew's missing wife Stacy Peterson and dead wife
Kathleen Savio and recognized him as the man who broke his
thumb.

Innocent beginning

The way Brownlee tells it, this tale of handbreak started innocently
enough with a Memorial Day cookout he held at his home.

"My next-door neighbor, he's really not a big fan of kids," Brownlee

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said, recalling how he cautioned children at his get-together to stay


away from the neighbor while he went to the store to get
cigarettes. By the time Brownlee returned, the police were at his
house.

An officer checked his identification and the police left after ordering
everyone to "get along," Brownlee said. But a half hour later, the
police returned, Brownlee said, and accused him of misrepresenting
his identity. They then took him into custody.

"I had on my pajamas, some shower shoes and a tank top,"


Brownlee said of his attire when he was taken into custody.

Alleged assault

On the way to the police station, Brownlee said the officer taunted
him with a racial epithet, telling him he didn't belong in Bolingbrook.

"He said when we get to the police station, he's going to kick my
(expletive)," Brownlee said.

Alarmed, Brownlee tried to use his cell phone to call one of his two
brothers who work as officers with the Chicago Police Department.
The call went straight to voice mail, he said, but the cop driving the
car heard him and said, "I think this guy's recording me."

Brownlee said he was hauled out of the squad car by the handcuffs.
He was then taken to the station.

There, he said, police took away his pajama pants and shower
shoes, leaving him with nothing on but a tank top. He says police
later returned his pajama pants but ordered him to walk barefoot
out of his cell. When he demurred, he said, they set to beating him.

"They drug me out," he said. "They were hollering, 'Stop resisting.'


I said, 'I'm not resisting.' That's when Sgt. Peterson grabbed my
thumb."

False claim?

Prochut claims otherwise.

"It was not Drew Peterson, and we have videotape evidence to back
this up," the commander said.

The lawsuit says Brownlee was charged with obstructing justice and
disorderly conduct and that the charges later were dropped.

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, said it was unlikely he would


handle the civil matter for the embattled former police sergeant.
But he did find the allegations consistent with others lodged against
his client.

"It's just another example of another debunked Elvis sighting,"


Brodsky said.

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12-19-2007 09:30 AM

GC Marciano Since the media circus has dissipated around Drew Peterson's
Copwatcher Extraordinaire house, I stopped by today in an attempt to ask him a few
questions and give him a COPWATCH.com bumper sticker.

All the curtains were closed and nobody answered the door, but
it appeared somebody was home as I could hear a television on
and I saw the curtain move (window to the left of the door in
the photo below) as if somebody was peeking out as I rang the
door bell.

Registered: Jul 2003 When I saw the curtain move, I couldn't help but chuckle
Location: Chicago, Illinois thinking of Drew cautiously peering out to see if a DuPage
Posts: 9967
County SWAT team had finally arrived with an arrest warrant
for murder, or better yet - double murder.

After a few minutes it became apparent that Drew was not


going to answer the door, so I left a business card and a
COPWATCH.com bumper sticker under the wiper blade of the
mini-van parked in the driveway.

I then left the area, returning about 25 minutes later. The note
and sticker had been removed from the van, but again nobody
answered the door in spite of my incessant knocking and
doorbell ringing.

Oh well. I imagine the idiot is pretty paranoid. After all, there


are probably an awful lot of men who would just love to kick the
shit outta him - or worse.

Maybe I'll try again another day. Enjoy the bumper sticker,

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Drew!

Before I left I snapped the following photo of Drew "Woman


Killer" Peterson's home:

NAME:
Drew W. Peterson
DOB:
Jan. 05, 1954
DLN:
P362-1795-4005
SSN:
[REMOVED]
ADDRESS:
6 Pheasant Chase Court
Bolingbrook, IL 60490

Attachment: 1a.jpg
This has been downloaded 100 time(s).

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state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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Mack Great effort, GC505! Being out of the spotlight for a while, Drew
Assistant Moderator was probably beginning to hope that no one cared - about his wife.
Nice of you to set the record straight.

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12-25-2007 02:30 PM

TheJackel Nice Work GC505!


DOUGHNUT MAKER - cream
with that sir? Drew was online looking for young girls (he likes them YOUNG 30+
years) his wife aint coming home so he is on the prowl!
Registered: Sep 2007
Location: In the dumpster I bet he soiled himself when he seen the copwatch sticker and ran
behind Krispy Kreme back inside and pointed that browser here - Drew I hope you were
Posts: 538
sitting on leather VS cloth!

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succumb in every battle.”
“To win without fighting is best.”

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12-25-2007 11:46 PM

Puddles
Junior Member
GC505 good job! I am getting impatient waiting the day Drew
finally gets arrested! I hope they use his old cuffs on him.

Registered: Aug 2007 I still don't understand how this guy remained a cop. He's clearly a
Location: whack job. This guy had/has no respect for the mother(s) of his
Posts: 21
children. How did he treat the general public? I hope someone will
have the guts to come forward and spill the beans on Drew and his
"connections". It seems like everyone is afraid to speak up except
the neighbor...God Bless her!

How dare he ask for donations...Where's all the blood money from
Kathleen's "accident"~ahem.

I've been trying to find info. on Drewpy. Does anyone know if his
father was a cop? TIA for any info. you can provide.

I wonder if Drew will be joining this board now that he's got a

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bumper sticker!

Oh Drewpy....if you've already joined and you're reading this...You


are sick, sick, sick and a liar, liar, liar. IMO, of course! Oh and
Drewpy, people are researching and trying to find Stacy. We will
not give up until she's found.

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12-30-2007 10:01 PM

Navigatr1 Investigation still focused on Drew Peterson, cops say


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Investigation still focused on Drew Peterson, cops say


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,4413996.story

Registered: Jul 2003 By Hal Dardick | Tribune reporter


Location: January 19, 2008
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Former Bolingbrook police Sgt. Drew Peterson remains the prime
suspect in the disappearance of his wife Stacy, based on newly
gathered information, Illinois State Police officials said Friday.

"We are focusing our resources in another direction that is


reinforcing the theory that Mr. Peterson is a suspect," Sgt. Thomas
Burek said. "The focus has stayed the same. Mr Peterson is the
prime suspect, and we've learned new information that has
supported that."

Peterson's lawyer, Joel Brodsky, this week released a transcript of a


racy text message he said was left on Stacy's cell phone more than
a month before she disappeared Oct. 28. It backs his client's
contention that Stacy left for another man, he said.

State police dismissed that theory.

"It is apparent that Stacy did not voluntarily cease all contact with
her children, family and friends," a statement said. It went on to
say "additional investigative resources ... have provided additional
investigative tracks that were not previously pursued."

Burek declined to specify the new resources or information, saying


he did not want to compromise the inquiry.

He said his statements were not a response to anything Brodsky


said. "We're not discouraging Mr. Brodsky from saying whatever he
wants," Burek said.

Peterson, 53, said he stands by his belief that Stacy, 23, left for
another man.

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"Everything I said stands," he said.

Brodsky called the references to new resources and investigative


tracks "bureaucratic double talk.

"I think they are just trying to build a circumstantial case, but they
are not going to be able to," Brodsky said. "They have given up
trying to find her. ... There is no body to find."

But a source close to the investigation said police continue to


search for Stacy. They also are investigating the text message, the
source said.

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Puddles Drew and his Attorney must think the general public is stoooopid.
Junior Member How convenient that "Drew" finds this "racy message"....Didn't the
ISP grab all the phones, computers, etc? They don't find this
message but Drew does....yeah, right!

Registered: Aug 2007 Did this phone have caller ID? It could have also been a wrong
Location: number. Nice try but....I don't believe one word coming from Drew
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01-21-2008 11:17 AM

liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by Puddles

Drew and his Attorney must think the general


public is stoooopid.

It is --extremely so--, but not so much that it believes the


nonsense spewing force from the Peterson immune system.
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GC Marciano quote:
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Originally posted by liberranter
Even the profoundly retarded still have SOME
brain stem functionality.

This is proven by the fact that George W. Bush can lie.

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Navigatr1 Judge to consider whether to return Drew Peterson's seized items


Extended Sabatical

Judge to consider whether to return Drew Peterson's seized


items
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,5813253.story
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Location: By Matthew Walberg and Erika Slife | Tribune reporters
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9:04 PM CST, January 25, 2008

A Will County judge will hold closed-door meetings with state police
to review evidence in the investigation of Stacy Peterson's
disappearance before deciding whether to order them to return
vehicles, guns and other items seized from her husband.

At a hearing Friday, Judge Richard Schoenstedt said he would meet


with Capt. Ken Kaupas later that day, and possibly on Monday and
Tuesday before ruling Feb. 1.

In November, investigators served numerous search warrants at


Peterson's home, taking his 2005 GMC Yukon Denali, his wife's
2002 Pontiac Grand Prix, 11 guns, computers and other items.

Defense attorney Joel Brodsky filed a motion Nov. 30 asking that


the items be returned. He argued police had ample time and were
only keeping Peterson's property to vex him.

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Judge Daniel Rozak denied the motion Dec. 17 but said he would
periodically review his ruling. In the interim the case was
transferred to Schoenstedt.

Brodsky said the meetings were the "next logical step" in the effort
to get his client's property returned.

"I trust this judge is very competent and professional, and I trust
that he will ask the kinds of questions that I would ask," he said.

Later on Friday, Peterson went on national TV and told FOX News'


Shepard Smith that he and his kids grieve over Stacy's absence,
but he also joked about his radio stunt of proposing a dating game
earlier this week.

"Personally, I grieve over it. But I do that all on my own," he said,


standing outside his Bolingbrook home. "The younger ones believe
she's on a vacation. But the older two boys, they know she's
missing, she ran off."

He told Smith a "Win a Date with Drew" segment he and Brodsky


proposed on Steve Dahl's radio show on WJMK-FM 104.3 was nixed
because the station lacked the nerve to go through with it.

"It was just a comedy bit we were going to do," Peterson said. "I
guess they got such heat over it that they chickened out."

Peterson walked away from the live interview after Smith asked
about reports that Peterson had carried a blue barrel from his home
at the time of his wife's Oct. 28 disappearance.

"Again, Shepard, that's not [what] we agreed to talk about,"


Peterson said.

Smith said he did not agree to restrictions.

"OK, well then, then I guess I gotta walk away," Peterson said.
"Have a good day, Mr. Shepard. It was nice talking to you."

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See the video here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4...


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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,7149423.story

Associated Press
3:26 PM CST, January 25, 2008

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. - The former police officer suspected in the


disappearance of his wife went on television to talk about how he'd
agreed to take part in a radio program's "dating game." But Drew
Peterson cut the interview short when questions turned to the case.

Peterson stood in front of his Bolingbrook house to talk via satellite


to Fox News' Shepard Smith on Friday afternoon.

Smith asked a few questions about how Peterson had planned to


participate in a radio show contest, and station's subsequent
announcement that the dating game would not take place. Then
Smith asked about a "blue barrel" that some have alleged Peterson
moved out of his house at about the time Stacy Peterson
disappeared last October.

A blue barrel or blue container has come up repeatedly since Stacy


Peterson disappeared. Volunteers who have searched the woods
and other areas have said that police asked them to look for a blue
plastic barrel. And Peterson's attorney has said that one of the
search warrants executed by state police indicated interest in trace
elements of several materials, including blue plastic.

Peterson tried to halt the line of questioning, saying he'd agreed


only to talk about the "Win a Date with Drew" contest that he had
wanted to have.

When Smith said he'd never agree to limit what he could ask about,
Peterson became perturbed.

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"OK, I guess I got to walk away. Have a good day, Mr. Shepard," he
said before pulling the microphone off and walking back into his
house.

The interview came two days after Peterson and his attorney, Joel
Brodsky, called a Chicago radio station during the program of a
host who has been writing parody songs about the retired
Bolingbrook police sergeant.

During Steve Dahl's show on WJMK-FM, Brodsky proposed the


dating game. Peterson, who has maintained that his wife left him
for another man, agreed. Dahl did too, enthusiastically telling
Peterson the game would take place the next day. But later in the
day, the station announced that the game would not take place.

On Friday, Peterson said, "The radio station chickened out."

Peterson also likened the last few months in which he's been the
target of an investigation to learning you have cancer. "You go to
bed with it on your mind, you wake up with it on your mind, just
looking for that miracle cure to make it all go away."

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Navigatr1 The mysterious blue container at the center of the Drew


Extended Sabatical Peterson investigation may be one of three that the former
police sergeant bought from a cable company four years ago,
ABC News has learned. A grand jury hearing testimony about
the disappearance of Peterson's wife Stacy, was shown
Registered: Jul 2003 photographs, obtained by ABC News, of a square blue
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Navigatr1 There is another cop case in Georgia with some parallels to the
Extended Sabatical Drew Peterson case.
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...&threadid=21460

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their people."

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Navigatr1 Death of former police officer's 3rd wife ruled homicide


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http://www.azcentral.com/news/artic...ife0221-ON.html

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JOLIET, Ill. - The death of a former suburban Chicago police
officer's third wife has been ruled a homicide after a second autopsy
showed she drowned, a prosecutor said Thursday.

The death of Kathleen Savio four years ago was initially ruled an
accident. She was found dead in her bathtub shortly before her
divorce with Drew Peterson was finalized.

Savio's body was exhumed late last year after he was named a
person of interest in the disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy. He
has said Stacy Peterson ran off with another man, but her relatives
deny any affair and say she was considering divorce.

"We have been investigating this as a murder since reopening the


case in November of last year," Will County State's Attorney James
Glasgow said. "We now have a scientific basis to formally and
publicly classify it as such."

Peterson, 54, has denied any involvement in either case and he has
not been charged with wrongdoing. He is a former sergeant in the
Bolingbrook, Ill., police department.

Peterson told the Joliet Herald-News that the ruling in Savio's death
shocked him. "You're kidding me. Unbelievable. That's hard to
believe," he told the newspaper.

Authorities are not prepared to name a suspect in Savio's death,


but police and a grand jury are actively investigating both cases,
said Charles Pelkie, a spokesman for Glasgow's office.

Savio's family members said Thursday they always believed she


had been killed and the confirmation was welcome. "But it could
have prevented if people would have listened to her before she was
killed." her niece Melissa Doman said.

Savio, 40, had filed an order of protection in 2002 after Peterson

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allegedly knocked her down, ripped off a necklace and left marks on
her body. She wrote in the order that she feared Peterson could kill
her.

Doman declined to say who she thought was responsible for Savio's
death. She said she did not want to interfere with any current
investigations or leads that authorities may have.

Peterson's attorney did not immediately return a telephone call


Thursday from the Associated Press.

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Navigatr1 Peterson's 3rd wife's death ruled a homicide


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http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/..._022108.article

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BOLINGBROOK — An autopsy performed on the three-year dead
body of Drew Peterson’s third wife revealed the woman was a
victim of a homicide — contradicting the results of a 2004 state
police investigation.

The news left Peterson dumbfounded.

“You’re kidding me,” said the embattled ex-cop moments after the
results of the autopsy conducted on his third wife, Kathleen Savio,
were released.

“Unbelievable,” he said. “That’s hard to believe.” He then excused


himself, saying, “I got to make a bunch of calls.” State police
already named Peterson a suspect in the October disappearance of

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his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson.

He said he is prepared to go to jail if the police show up at his door


to arrest him.

“Let them do it,” Peterson said. “Everything’s ready. Everything’s in


place.

“Let them do their thing,” he added, almost daring police and


prosecutors to pull the trigger on charges.

“The thing is, do what you got to do,” he said defiantly. “You roll
the dice, I’ll roll the dice.”

2004 death

Savio, 40, was found dead in a waterless bathtub in her


Bolingbrook home on March 2004. She was in the process of
finalizing her divorce from Peterson.

At the time, an autopsy determined Savio had drowned and a


coroner’s jury ruled the death accidental. State police Special Agent
Herbert Hardy had informed the jury that an investigation turned
up no indications of foul play in Savio’s death.

State police renewed their interest in Savio’s death when the next
wife — the now 24-year-old Stacy — vanished in October. State
police have labeled their investigation of the young woman’s
whereabouts a potential homicide.

Soon after, Will County State’s Attorney James Glasgow announced


he was reopening Savio’s case and said the scene of her death
appeared to have been staged to conceal a homicide.

Savio’s remains were exhumed in November. Forensic pathologist


Larry Blum examined her body and prepared the autopsy report
released Thursday by Glasgow’s office. A third autopsy was
conducted by celebrity forensic pathologist Michael Baden at the
behest of Savio’s relatives. After his examination, Baden announced
live on cable television his belief that the death was a homicide.

Mixed reaction

Savio’s niece, Melissa Doman of Romeoville, said she was


“bouncing” around with excitement after learning her aunt’s case
finally was going the way her family had wanted since the spring of
2004.

“It’s something that should have been done the right way almost
four years ago,” Doman said. “It would have been done the right
way if people listened.” She felt if her aunt’s case was given its due
attention, Stacy might still be alive.

“It’s something that was right there in front of their faces,” Doman
said. “It’s happy yet sad — It pisses me off. Seriously. Stacy was 23

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years old. She hadn’t lived her life yet.”

Peterson’s attorney, Joel Brodsky, said he was eager to get his


hands on the latest autopsy results.

“I can’t wait to get the actual report and get it to my expert,” he


said.

“It’s going to be a hell of a time for the state’s attorney’s office. You
have one pathologist contradicting the other. You have multiple
state agencies contradicting each other.”

Glasgow’s office is withholding the actual autopsy report, citing the


ongoing investigation of Savio’s death.

“The Illinois State Police are investigating the murder of Kathleen


Savio as well as the disappearance of Stacy Peterson,” a statement
released by Glasgow’s office said. “Kathleen Savio’s murder and
Stacy Peterson’s disappearance are simultaneously being
investigated by a Special Grand Jury that was convened in
November 2007.”

Grand jury testimony?

Also on Thursday, convicted cop killer Anthony “Bindy” Rock


appeared before that grand jury, a pair of sources said. Confronted
at the office of his attorney, John Schrock, neither he nor his lawyer
would confirm or deny that Rock testified.

The sources said the 68-year-old Rock, who is reputed to have


organized crime connections, received immunity from prosecution
in exchange for his testimony. Again, neither man would confirm
this was the case.

Schrock did accuse Peterson of “shaking Bindy down for money” in


1985, when Peterson was an undercover officer with the
Metropolitan Area Narcotics Squad.

Peterson dismissed the allegation, saying, “It doesn’t matter.


Whatever he says don’t mean nothing.” Peterson did express his
appreciation for Rock.

“I always liked Bindy, just because he was a character,” he said.


“He was a known criminal, but he had a personality that made him
fun to work.”

Peterson has insisted since Stacy disappeared that she willingly


abandoned her family to run off with another man. He still holds out
hope she will return to clear his name.

“If they do arrest me, I think that will cause her to surface,” he
said. “At least I hope so.”

Contact Joe Hosey at (815) 729-6054 or jhosey@scn1.com .

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liberranter Re: Peterson's 3rd wife's death ruled a homicide


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quote:

Originally posted by Navigatr1

The news left Peterson dumbfounded.

“You’re kidding me,” said the embattled ex-


cop moments after the results of the autopsy
conducted on his third wife, Kathleen Savio,
were released.
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 “Unbelievable,” he said. “That’s hard to
believe.” He then excused himself, saying, “I
got to make a bunch of calls.”

I guess all the intimidation of witnesses and leveraging of the


"blue wall" has its limits, especially when up against forensic
science, huh, Drew?

Face it, asshole, the game is up. You might want to start
thinking about what you want for your last meal.

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"And this brings us to a point that has to be driven home with


the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
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Puddles Re: Re: Peterson's 3rd wife's death ruled a homicide


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quote:

Originally posted by liberranter


Registered: Aug 2007 I guess all the intimidation of witnesses and
Location: leveraging of the "blue wall" has its limits,
Posts: 21
especially when up against forensic science, huh,
Drew?

Face it, asshole, the game is up. You might want


to start thinking about what you want for your
last meal.

I agree! The game is over for Drew! Amen!

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Navigatr1 Judge: Peterson's property must be returned


Extended Sabatical

Judge: Peterson's property must be returned


http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?se...ocal&id=5985083

Registered: Jul 2003 ISP revokes FOID card of Drew Peterson


Location:
Posts: 31403 Wednesday, February 27, 2008 | 10:11 PM

JOLIET, Ill. (WLS) -- A Will County judge says investigators must


return to Drew Peterson all items seized from his home within 30
days.

The investigators took the property -- including two cars, guns and
computers -- in November as they investigated the disappearance
of Peterson's wife, Stacy.

Judge Richard Schoenstedt made the ruling during a Wednesday


morning hearing. The only condition is that Peterson must agree
not to challenge the validity of photographs of the property or
documents related to them at any future trial.

"He's happy that the judge ruled and he's going to get his property
back. He has car. They can have their computer back. And these
things really aren't evidence of anything and that's all from what
the judge said. It's not probable cause for the government to keep
this property," said Andrew Abood, Drew Peterson's attorney.

Authorities say Illinois State Police have revoked Drew Peterson's


state ID card that allows the former Bolingbrook police officer to
own firearms. Since he no longer has a Firearms Owners
Identification Card, he can't get the guns back.

"We feel this was a reasonable order at this point and we don't
have a problem with it. The key thing that is important to
remember is that the judge did included in his order with regard to
the return of the weapons that Mr. Peterson be in possession of an
FOID card," said Charles Pelkie, Will Co. State's Attorney
spokesman.

The former Bolingbrook police officer has been named a suspect in


Stacy Peterson's October disappearance. He hasn't been charged
with any crime and denies having anything to do with her
disappearance.

Also Wednesday, ABC News has learned that a grand jury has
subpoenaed the two teenage sons of Drew Peterson. Their mother
was Peterson's third wife, the late Kathleen Savio.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Drew Peterson leaves his home, Nov 26, 2007 file photo

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Navigatr1 Judge orders cars and computers returned to ex-cop


Extended Sabatical

Judge orders cars and computers returned to ex-cop


http://www.kdbc.com/Global/story.as...3&nav=menu608_2

Registered: Jul 2003 Associated Press - March 17, 2008 4:53 PM ET


Location:
Posts: 31403 JOLIET, Ill. (AP) - Former Illinois police officer Drew Peterson has
won a judge's order that investigators should return cars and
computers they seized during their investigation into his wife's
disappearance.

A judge says Peterson, a suspect in the case, can pick up his SUV
and car tomorrow and that he'll get his computers and copies of
their hard drives in about two weeks.

Peterson has denied any involvement in the disappearance of his


wife, Stacy, who hasn't been seen since October.

Since she went missing, police have reopened the investigation into
the 2004 death of Kathleen Savio, another 1 of Peterson's wives.

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guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
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Navigatr1 Drew Peterson's mother, stepfather testify before grand jury


Extended Sabatical

Drew Peterson's mother, stepfather testify before grand jury


Panel investigating death of Kathleen Savio, disappearance of Stacy
Peterson
Registered: Jul 2003 http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...1,3856407.story
Location:
Posts: 31403
By Matthew Walberg | Tribune reporter
10:50 PM CDT, March 20, 2008

The mother and stepfather of Drew Peterson appeared Thursday


before the Will County special grand jury investigating the death of
their son's ex-wife and the disappearance of his current wife.

Albert and Betty Morphey, of Burr Ridge, would not discuss what, if
anything, they told the grand jury.

"You guys are vultures," Al Morphey told reporters as he and his


wife headed to their car.

State police have named Peterson, 54, a suspect in the Oct. 28


disappearance of his wife, Stacy, then 23, from their Bolingbrook
home. Authorities also are investigating as a homicide the 2004
death of Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio, who was found
drowned in her bathtub just weeks before the couple's divorce
settlement was to be finalized.

Peterson has not been charged with any crime and denies any
wrongdoing in either case. From the beginning, he has said Stacy
left him for another man.

His mother and stepfather said that they have not talked with
Peterson about the case and that they hope Stacy will return. But
while they were reluctant to comment on their grand jury
experience, they displayed some of the showmanship their son has
exhibited throughout the investigations.

As they were being photographed driving away from the courthouse


parking garage, Albert Morphey waved sarcastically for the camera,
and Betty Morphey asked for prints of the photos.

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"We want 10 copies of each [picture]," she said to the


photographer. "We didn't do nothing wrong."

mwalberg@tribune.com

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GC Marciano Re: Drew Peterson's mother, stepfather testify before grand jury
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quote:

Originally posted by Navigatr1


"You guys are vultures," Al Morphey told
reporters as he and his wife headed to their
car.

Registered: Jul 2003


Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Well Mr. Morphey, I guess it's better to be a vulture than a
ruthless, brutal woman killer like your stepson.

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GC Marciano Drew Peterson's former friend said he identified gun for


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Illinois police
Peterson allegedly still had pistol after authorities seized his
weapons
Tribune staff report
10:55 PM CDT, March 19, 2008

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,1363691.story

A former friend of Drew Peterson said Wednesday that he was


Registered: Jul 2003 called into an Illinois State Police station and asked to identify a
Location: Chicago, Illinois gun that Peterson allegedly still had after authorities seized his
Posts: 9967
weapons.

Richard Mims stayed at Peterson's home in the days after the


Oct. 28 disappearance of Peterson's wife, Stacy. During the
initial investigation, using multiple search warrants, police
seized 11 guns, as well as iPods, computers, backpacks and
Peterson's 2002 Pontiac Grand Prix and 2005 GMC Yukon Denali.

But Mims said police apparently missed at least one gun. The
night of a search in November, Mims said Peterson
showed him a folding gun that was strapped to his leg.
Mims, who later had a falling out with Peterson, said he alerted
police and media outlets about the weapon a few weeks ago.

"Today, Illinois State Police recovered a pistol that they think


was Drew's. And it is his pistol," Mims said. "It's the same one
that he pulled out when I was staying at his house. They'd
already seized his other guns."

Peterson, 54, is a suspect in his wife's disappearance. He denies


any wrongdoing.

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Mims said Wednesday that police also showed him a .357-


caliber pistol and asked whether he could identify it as
Peterson's. Mims said that he couldn't say for sure.

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GC Marciano Richard Mims, former friend of Drew Peterson who has recently
Copwatcher Extraordinaire come to his senses and turned on the repeat murderer, is
pictured here in this November 2007 photo as he tapes the
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liberranter Re: Drew Peterson's mother, stepfather testify before grand jury
Super Moderator
quote:

Originally posted by Navigatr1

His mother and stepfather said that they have


not talked with Peterson about the case and
that they hope Stacy will return. But while
they were reluctant to comment on their
grand jury experience, they displayed some of
Registered: Jun 2005 the showmanship their son has exhibited
Location: Tucson, AZ throughout the investigations.
Posts: 5865
As they were being photographed driving
away from the courthouse parking garage,
Albert Morphey waved sarcastically for the
camera, and Betty Morphey asked for prints of
the photos.

"We want 10 copies of each [picture]," she


said to the photographer. "We didn't do
nothing wrong."

Hey, Betty, it must suck to know deep down in your heart that
your baby boy is a violent, psychotic, misogynistic murderer.
Did you and his daddy raise him to be that way?

Quit enabling your son and tell him to face up to his crimes!

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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
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Grigg

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it values more, it will lose that too.
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Navigatr1 Peterson prepares for possible arrest, decries media


Extended Sabatical portrayal
http://www.nwherald.com/articles/20...f4300683898.txt

BOLINGBROOK (AP) – Jobless and with no prospects, Drew


Registered: Jul 2003 Peterson spends his days taking care of his children from two
Location: marriages, cooking their meals, washing their clothes, helping with
Posts: 31403 their homework. And the former cop does it knowing that on the
other side of his front door, it is widely believed that he killed his
last two wives.

It has been nearly five months since Stacy Peterson vanished from
their home. In that time, Peterson has been named a suspect in her
disappearance by authorities who also are trying to determine
whether he had a role in the 2004 death of his ex-wife, Kathleen
Savio.

The result is two worlds for the 54-year-old Peterson.

One is inside his home, made up of the mundane and the challenge
of raising teenage boys, ages 13 and 15, a 3-year-old daughter and
a 4-year-old son.

The other is out there, where he’s recognized wherever he goes,


where camera crews follow him, where people whisper his name.

Those two worlds – and what he knows is the real possibility that
police might lock him up at any time – go a long way in explaining
why Peterson, with his attorney’s blessing, allowed The Associated
Press into his home.

“I am now dealing with the court of public opinion, which is filled


with my jury pool,” said Peterson, who has hired a publicist.

His image has taken a beating. From wisecracking about his wife’s
menstrual cycles to enthusiastically agreeing on a radio show to
take part in a “Win a Date With Drew” contest, he repeatedly has
come off as boorish and callous.

Peterson knows all this, though he blames the media for portraying
him as a “sinister character lurking around underneath rocks.” He
does, however, acknowledge that from the outside his behavior
might be seen as peculiar and his jokes inappropriate.

“Humor’s kind of a defense mechanism for me, so I joke about


everything,” he said. “Even though I may be scared to death, I’m
smiling and laughing.”

Pamela Bosco, a friend of Stacy Peterson, doesn’t believe any of it.


If Peterson acted one way early on it was because he believed it

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would help him, she said. “They keep trying to change the look that
fits,” she said. “Drew is a chameleon.”

For two hours at his home last week, Peterson was subdued. He’s
30 pounds lighter than he was when his wife disappeared, there are
bags under his eyes, and he appears pale, certainly nowhere as
robust as he was when reporters first started knocking on his door
last fall. When he speaks, there still are some jokes – he compared
the media attention to a colonoscopy – but he is careful.

What he wants to put on display is his life behind closed doors.

Stacy, who was 23 when she vanished, is everywhere in the house.


There are photographs of her, alone, with her children and with her
husband. The living room is crowded with bright silk flowers
Peterson said she kept coming home with, and many of the pictures
are in frames with phrases like “Home Sweet Home” and “Live,
Laugh, Love.” Other rooms are similarly crowded, including his
home office with shelves holding Disney figurines in what Peterson
said was kind of a shrine his wife had for her late sister.

“For some reason I just can’t bring myself to take stuff down,” he
said. “I can’t even bring myself to put her clothes away. They’re
hung up like they were the day she left.”

The kitchen, bedrooms, bathrooms and downstairs family room all


remain as they were – decorated as she decorated them. Artificial
vines hang from lattice on the walls of the kitchen, an effort by
Stacy to give the room an Italian feel.

Upstairs, 3-year-old Laci’s room is awash in pink, a frilly canopy


over the bed, its headboard emblazoned with the words “The
Princess Sleeps.” There are stickers of Cinderella and Sleeping
Beauty on the wall.

There is a bedroom next door with a car theme and across the hall,
plastic planets hang from the ceiling, a nod, Peterson said, to his 13-
year-old son’s one-time interest in planets.

The knickknacks elicit a story about Stacy: Holding a figurine of a


police officer holding a little girl’s hand, he said the joke was that it
showed he and Stacy in 1988, referring to the 30-year age
difference between him and his wife.

“I thought we had a lot of fun together when we just did everyday


things,” he said.

Throughout the tour, Peterson complimented his wife. She was a


great mother, she said. A funny and caring wife.

“It’s very lonely without her,” he said. “She created a real nice
environment, home environment for the kids and I.”

At the same time, his account of what happened remains what it


has always been: She left him for another man and still is alive.

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And his feelings toward her also are the same.

“I’m very angry, very angry,” he said. He said he’s hired private
investigators to look for her, but he doesn’t elaborate.

Peterson would not talk in detail about the investigation into his
wife’s disappearance. He and his attorneys say that is off limits, so
there was no talk about the blue barrel that some have alleged
Peterson moved from his house about the time his wife
disappeared. There was no discussion of the grand jury
investigating Stacy Peterson’s disappearance and Savio’s death, a
grand jury that just this month heard from his mother and
stepfather.

He did talk about claims that he asked truckers to carry a


mysterious package for him, but only to make the point that
subsequent reports debunking the claim did not get much attention.

Peterson has heard people hurl obscenities at him and he has


received death threats. Since he retired shortly after his wife
disappeared, Peterson said, he has heard from a single member of
the Bolingbrook police department where he spent 32 years, and
can think of no one there he can call a friend.

He’s a celebrity now, he said – the same way Scott Peterson was
before his arrest in the death of his pregnant wife, Laci, and the
way people still wonder about O.J. Simpson.

“I’ll walk into a restaurant and you’ll hear this hum go through this
restaurant, ’There’s Drew Peterson, there’s Drew Peterson, there’s
Drew Peterson,”’ he said.

The displays of open hostility don’t happen as much when he’s in


public with his children. But, he said, there have been a few
incidents in which children have been confronted with the rumors
and speculation swirling around their father, including the time
someone told his 13-year-old son that Peterson tossed his wife out
of a helicopter.

There is no escaping the allegations. One neighbor has taped


“Where is Stacy?” posters in the windows that face Peterson’s
house and another has put an even larger one in the front yard.

“I want my kids to be kids and they can’t,” he said. “They drive by


on their little tricycles and bicycles and they see that.”

The neighbor, Sharon Bychowski, said she doesn’t believe the signs
hurt Peterson’s children because they don’t accuse him of anything.

“The signs are in support of Stacy Peterson, searching for Stacy


Peterson,” she said. “They are not about Drew Peterson.”

Whatever they are about, Peterson said he wants to move.

“I’ve got to get away from this environment and the kids (have) got

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to get away from this environment,” he said. The problem is that


the house is in his wife’s name and to sell it he needs his wife’s
signature or a court order.

So he stays, talking about the possibility of eventually moving his


family to a warmer climate and starting his own business. In the
meantime, he’s set up what he calls contingencies for other family
members to take care of his children if he is arrested.

And he waits.

“I’m sure when all this clears up I’ll get some apologies from some
people,” he said.

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GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by Navigatr1
“I’ve got to get away from this environment
and the kids (have) got to get away from this
environment,” he said.

Nice try at acting like you care about other people, Drew. If you
Registered: Jul 2003 gave a rats ass about those kids you wouldn't have slaughtered
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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their mothers.

True Justice would find your mutilated corpse rotting in a septic


tank somewhere. And the best part... Nobody would even care.

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"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
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03-25-2008 11:53 AM

Navigatr1 Peterson: Neighbor 'detained' young son


Extended Sabatical

Peterson: Neighbor 'detained' young son


ONGOING DISPUTE
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/...RSON_S1.article
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: April 8, 2008
Posts: 31403
By JOE HOSEY Staff Writer

BOLINGBROOK -- Things were bad enough when it was just alleged


Internet threats and a misappropriated garage door opener, but
now allegations of an unauthorized photograph of a 4-year-old have
sent tensions on Pheasant Chase Court soaring to a new high.

Drew Peterson called the law on Sharon Bychowski, his next-door


neighbor and the best friend of his missing wife Stacy, and accused
her of "detaining" his young son Anthony, police said. It was the
third police report from the neighbors since March 14.

Peterson said he learned of the matter from a neighbor after picking


up another of his sons from church early Sunday afternoon.

"They had my 4-year-old, Anthony, surrounded in Sharon's


driveway, taking his picture," Peterson said.

"He's a little guy. He's 4, and he's surrounded by them. Kris (his
older half-brother) is yelling at him to get in the house."

Bychowski said the boy simply rode his bicycle to Bychowski's


driveway to see Stacy's sister, Cassandra Cales, who was there with
her friend, Bruce Zidarich, following a volunteer search for the
missing woman.

"It was ridiculous," Bychowski said. "We took a picture of him and
his Auntie Cassandra.

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"You can't arrest me for taking a picture outside," Bychowksi said.


"Didn't he used to be a cop?"

Peterson had indeed been a cop for 29 years before he abruptly


quit in the wake of his wife's disappearance, dodging an internal
affairs investigation. Since then, the state police have labeled the
disappearance of Stacy, Peterson's third wife, a "potential homicide"
and named Peterson as their sole suspect.

The state police also are investigating the March 2004 apparent
bathtub drowning of Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio.

At the time, investigators found no indications of foul play in Savio's


death, according to special agent Herbert Hardy. A forensic
pathologist has since concluded that Savio was the victim of a
homicide.

A possible felony charge?

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, has accused Bychowski and her


son, Roy Taylor, of threatening Peterson through Internet postings.
Bychowski, for her part, claims Peterson is in possession of a
garage door opener she had given Stacy, and that he used it to
open her garage.

On Monday, Brodsky said the unauthorized photograph may


amount to a felony charge.

"If they cornered the child, as Drew said, that would be (a felony
crime of) unlawful restraint," Brodsky said.

"Personally, I think Sharon's lost touch with reality," he said,


claiming a witness described the look on her face as "maniacal."

"I really fear for her mental stability," Brodsky said, saying the
people in Bychowski's driveway acted "almost like a modern-day
lynch mob."

Lt. Ken Teppel of the Bolingbrook Police Department said the


matter was referred to the state's attorney's office. An officer on
the scene viewed the photograph of Anthony and his aunt, he said,
and the child does not look harried.

"In the photo, he doesn't appear he's being held against his will,"
Teppel said. "They both have their arms around each other and
they're smiling."

While he had the cops there, Peterson also complained of Cales


peeling out as she drove past his house Saturday night and said she
left about 20 yards of tire tracks behind her.

Ribbon dispute

Bychowski said she and other volunteers put out new blue and pink

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ribbons on the trees of their subdivision in memory of Stacy and


Savio. Peterson promptly removed the ones on his property.

"It says he's not supporting both women," Bychowski said. "It
makes a big statement about what he thinks, and these are the
mothers of his children."

Peterson disputed this.

"No, that means I don't want those raggedy ribbons on my trees,"


he said. "I take good care of my house."

And above his house, Peterson said, he is concerned about his kids.

"I really don't care what they do as long as it doesn't affect my


children," he said.

"My kids can't be kids, because of Sharon and her band of


vigilantes."

Contact Joe Hosey at (815) 729-6054 or jhosey@scn1.com

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 Peterson's exes testify before grand jury in Joliet


Extended Sabatical

Peterson's exes testify before grand jury in Joliet


http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/...RSON_S1.article

Registered: Jul 2003 April 4, 2008


Location: By JOE HOSEY Staff Writer
Posts: 31403
Prosecutors paraded a pair of Drew Peterson's past lovers before a
grand jury Thursday.

Peterson's former fiancee, Kyle Piry, and second wife, Vicki


Connolly, went before a grand jury specially convened to review the
death of the embattled ex-cop's third wife, Kathleen Savio, and the
disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson.

Connolly, now a resident of downstate Paxton, refused to comment


on her testimony. Piry, who lives in Joliet, said she was unable to
discuss what she told the grand jury.

"I can't, I can't," Piry said. "Hopefully I'm done with all that stuff. I
didn't think I was all that relevant."

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky did not think Piry or Connolly


were relevant at all.

"When are they going to bring in Drew's prom date?" Brodsky


quipped.

Prosecutors may in fact do just that. Peterson attended his


Willowbrook High School prom with his first wife, Carol Brown.
Charles B. Pelkie, spokesman for State's Attorney James Glasgow,
would not disclose whether prosecutors indeed planned to subpoena
the prom date turned wife. Brown's husband, Dave Brown, said his
wife has not yet been summoned.

"No," Dave Brown said. "But I hope they don't."

Piry and Peterson were engaged for about four months in the early
1980s after having dated for about four months. Piry accused
Peterson of stalking her, pulling her over and writing tickets for
such frivolous offenses as having bald tires on her car after she
ended their engagement.

Peterson claims he is the one who halted their relationship and said
Piry is merely bitter over both his breaking up with her and then
resisting her later attempts to seduce him.

"Everything she's said has been twisted and turned," Peterson said.

Connolly and Peterson married in 1982 after he and Piry split up.
They stayed together for 10 years, during which time Connolly
reportedly said she suffered physical abuse and threats from
Peterson. She also reportedly tolerated Peterson's extramarital

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affairs, but said they divorced after he took up with third wife Savio.

Peterson has dismissed Connolly's allegations and said, "Vicki is just


mad because I cheated on her."

Brodsky also questioned the negative comments from the women in


Peterson's past.

"They're an ex-wife and a jilted girlfriend," Brodsky said. "What do


you expect them to say? We're not concerned in the least."

Peterson took the appearance of Piry and Connolly as an indication


the prosecution does not have much of a case.

"All it tells me is, they're scraping," he said.

Over the course of the last five months, numerous men and women
from Peterson's life, ranging from neighbors to former lovers, have
appeared before the grand jury.

"We should have had a reunion," Peterson said. "We should have
just had a party and done it all at once."

Contact Joe Hosey at (815) 729-6054 or jhosey@scn1.com

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owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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liberranter Re: Peterson's exes testify before grand jury in Joliet


Super Moderator
quote:

Originally posted by Navigatr1

"We should have had a reunion," Peterson


said. "We should have just had a party and
done it all at once."

Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 Go ahead, Drew. Joke all you want while you're still free, you
disgusting, murdering piece of shit. You're apparently too
arrogant (or too stupid) to realize that your sick, flippant sense
of humor is not appreciated by the community of your peers
that will make up your jury and that it will bite you in the ass,
HARD, during your trial. No one believes the crap spewing out
of your dicksucker and it's only a matter of time before you're
formally indicted, tried, convicted, and, if there is even a
residue of real justice left in this country, sentenced to a slow,
agonizing death.

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the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
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GC Marciano Breaking News?


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
I just drove near Drew Petersons Pheasant Chase Court home in
Bolingbrook... The area is crawling with media helicoptors and
news vans.

Stay tuned.

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Posts: 9967 on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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05-21-2008 03:26 PM

GC Marciano Apparently an arrest warrant has been issued for Drew


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Peterson, a reporter told me that the warrant is not related to
the disappearance of his wife(s).

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Registered: Jul 2003
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05-21-2008 03:30 PM

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Registered: Jul 2003 state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
Location: Chicago, Illinois resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
Posts: 9967 of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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05-21-2008 03:35 PM

GC Marciano Report: Drew Peterson To Surrender On Gun Charge


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http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.p...n.2.729364.html

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. (CBS) ― Drew Peterson plans to turn


himself in to police on a gun charge, his publicist said.

Glenn Selig says the charge involves a gun seized after his
fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, disappeared in October. He says
police claim the gun was too short under Illinois law.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Peterson has been fighting a ruling that he cannot have his
Posts: 9967 guns returned.

When asked for comment by CBS 2 as he left his house, Drew


Peterson simply said, "I love you."

Stacy Peterson has not been seen since Oct. 28, 2007. Illinois
State Police said several months ago they suspect she is dead
and have called Drew Peterson a suspect in her disappearance.

But Peterson has long contended his wife left him for another
man. His attorney has said perhaps Stacy Peterson just did not
want to be tied down to an older man and four children
anymore.

Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio, was found dead in a dry

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bathtub four years ago, in what was initially ruled to be an


accidental drowning. But Savio's body was exhumed in
November of last year and her death was ruled a homicide.

Drew Peterson has not been charged with any crime in either
case.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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05-21-2008 03:37 PM

GC Marciano Petterson Arrest Warrant on Gun Charge


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Wednesday, 21 May 2008, 12:34 PM CDT

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/p...TY&pageId=1.1.1

Bolingbrook, IL. -- Drew Peterson's spokesman, Glenn Selig,


says Peterson will be turning himself in this afternoon with his
attorney, Joel Brodsky, on a gun charge.

Selig says the charge is related to a weapon that is "too short"


Registered: Jul 2003 to legally possess under Illinois laws.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Peterson, says, he plans to surrender with Brodsky, and won't
be arrested or handcuffed at his home.

The weapon in question, according to Selig, is a gun that


Peterson possessed legally as a member of the Bolingbrook
Police Department's swat team, and it was later seized by
police, so Peterson could not return it even if he needed to.

Selig says that according to Joel Brodsky, this is "just a jacked


up charge, with absolutely no merit."

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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05-21-2008 03:39 PM

GC Marciano An ABC News reporter that I spoke with up the road from Drew
Copwatcher Extraordinaire Peterson's home says he was told that the firearm in question is
an AR-15 semiautomatic assault rifle that had been retrofitted
with a shorter barrel, 3/8" shorter than the 16" that Illinois law
allows.

He is charged with a Class 3 felony. His bail has been set at


$75,000.00 of which 10% cash ($7,500.00) must be posted.

I will post a copy of the arrest warrant as soon as I receive it.


Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano PDF Document Attached


Copwatcher Extraordinaire A free PDF viewer may be obtained from Adobe
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

Here is a PDF copy of Drew Peterson's felony arrest warrant,


issued yesterday, 05/20/08:

(270kb download)

Registered: Jul 2003


Attachment: 2008_cf_1169.pdf
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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Registered: Jul 2003 state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
Location: Chicago, Illinois resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
Posts: 9967 of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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Registered: Jul 2003 state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
Location: Chicago, Illinois resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
Posts: 9967 of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano This is a photo of the actual weapon that Drew Peterson has
Copwatcher Extraordinaire been charged with illegally possessing; a Colt Sporter
Lightweight 223 Remington rifle with an attached EOTech
electronic sight.

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Police Officer and suspected double murderer


Drew Peterson (center) walks behind his
attorney across the parking lot towards the
sally port entrance in the rear of the
Bolingbrook IL Police Department to
surrender himself.

Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ
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Surrending himself into the custody of his pals in blue: how

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convenient. There's probably a hooker, a few grams of coke,


and a bottle of Dom Perignon awaiting him in his cell.

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GC Marciano Drew Peterson faces gun charge in Bolingbrook


Copwatcher Extraordinaire May 21, 2008
BY DAN ROZEK AND JOE HOSEY Staff Reporters

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...terson.article#

Drew Peterson was arrested today on a felony weapons charge


related to the seizure of 11 guns from his Bolingbrook home last
November.

Registered: Jul 2003 Peterson, who is a suspect in the disappearance of his fourth
Location: Chicago, Illinois wife Stacy, turned himself in at the Bolingbrook Police station
Posts: 9967 today after he was picked up at home by his attorney, Joel
Brodsky, around 12:35 p.m.

Peterson is charged with knowingly possessing "a rifle, namely


a Colt model Sporter Lightweight, 223 Remington rifle" with a
barrel less than 16 inches in length, in violation of state law.

But Brodsky disputed the charges, saying Peterson was allowed


to have the gun in his possession because he was a member of
the Bolingbrook Police Department's SWAT team at the time the
gun was seized.

Brodsky also questioned the timing of the arrest, noting that


police have had the guns in question since Nov. 1 of last year.
He said the arrest probably has more to do with a court hearing
scheduled for Thursday in which the judge could order the

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weapons be returned to Peterson's son, Stephen.

"I find the circumstances very suspicious," he said.

Peterson was taken to the Will County Jail in Joliet to be


processed. He arrived in an unmarked squad car around 1:30 p.
m., and was smiling and joking with reporters.

Asked his thoughts on the arrest, Peterson smiled and said, "It's
the usual."

Brodsky expects his client to post bail and be released later


today.

Peterson, a retired Bolingbrook police sergeant, has not been


charged in his wife's disappearance more than six months ago.

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Navigatr1 Drew Walter Peterson


Extended Sabatical 6 Pheasant Chase Ct
Bolingbrook, IL 60490

http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8...4,0.019226&z=15
Registered: Jul 2003
Location:
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Navigatr1 AMW FUGITIVE DATA FILE FOR


Extended Sabatical Drew Peterson
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=55859

Overview
Registered: Jul 2003 Illinois Authorities Charge Drew Peterson
Location:
Posts: 31403 A Will County, Ill. judge issued an arrest warrant for Drew Peterson
on Wednesday, May 21, 2008.

Peterson, who cops have fingered as the prime suspect in his wife
Stacy's disappearance, was wanted for a weapons charge; police
say the charge stems from the seizure of his guns following the
disappearance of his wife Stacy Peterson.

The warrant was issued after one of the Peterson guns was found to
be allegedly illegally sawed-off. The shortened barrel violates
Illinois law, police say.

Peterson turned himself in to authorities on Wednesday afternoon,


the same day the warrant was issued.

Peterson Spokesperson Responds To Allegations

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Glenn Selig, Peterson's spokesperson, told AMW that the charges


center around a rifle Peterson used while he was a member of the
Bolingbrook Police Department's SWAT team.

Selig says the rifle, which is 3/8" shy of the legal barrel length of
16", was seized when Peterson was still employed as a police
officer. Peterson's lawyer, Joel Brodsky, is expected to argue that
because of that, Drew Peterson was exempt from Illinois state law
restrictions.

Peterson Could Face Up To Five Years

The Unlawful Use Of A Weapon charge filed against Peterson is


considered a felony.

The Will County State's Attorney's Office says the warrant carries a
$75,000 bond. If convicted, Peterson could face a sentence of up to
five years in state prison.

Wanted For
Information valid as of last update.
Unlawful Use Of A Weapon, Bolingbrook, IL; May 21, 2008

Profile
Sex Male
Race White
Age Now 54
Height 5'10"
Weight 185 lbs.
# Hair (Color, Description, Facial Hair) Gray / White
# Peterson's hair is a grayed brown.
# Peterson typically has a mustache.
# Eyes (Color and Correction) Blue

Scars and Tattoos


# No known scars
# No known tattoos

Traits and Habits


# Peterson sometimes wears glasses.

Possible Location
Other Possible Locations
Bolingbrook, IL

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GC Marciano Peterson released from jail on weapons charge


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Posted: May 21, 2008 03:36 PM

http://www.wqad.com/global/story.asp?s=8360761

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. (AP) - Former Bolingbrook police officer


Drew Peterson walked out of jail in Joliet this afternoon a short
time after one of his sons posted $7,500 bail.

Registered: Jul 2003 Earlier today Peterson turned himself in to authorities after he
Location: Chicago, Illinois was charged with unlawful use of a weapon. The felony charge
Posts: 9967 is related to the length of the gun barrel. Authorities say the
barrel is less than 16 inches long -- a violation of state law.

Peterson is a suspect in the October disappearance of his wife,


Stacy. He has not been charged in the case.

Peterson attorney Joel Brodsky says the weapon is a


semiautomatic assault rifle that Peterson used while he was a
police officer. He contends police officers are exempt from the
length provision of the law and Peterson was still a police officer
when the gun was seized.

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Navigatr1 Attorney for Drew Peterson Releases Statement on Arrest Warrant for
Extended Sabatical Weapons Charge

Attorney for Drew Peterson Releases Statement on Arrest


Warrant for Weapons Charge
Registered: Jul 2003 Brodsky: 'This is nothing more than an attempt by state police to
Location: avoid returning guns to Drew that had been seized as evidence.'
Posts: 31403 http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolu...ates/?a=559&z=4

ThePublicityAgency.com - May 21, 2008

(PRNewsChannel) / Chicago, Ill. - Joel A. Brodsky, of Brodsky and


Odeh, criminal defense attorney for Drew Peterson, released this
statement following a warrant being issued for his client's arrest on
a weapons charge:

"The allegation is that Drew Peterson had in his possession an AR-


15 assault rifle that had too short of a barrel. According to Illinois
law, the barrel of a rifle may not be shorter than 16 inches. State
police say this particular weapon had a barrel that was 3/8 of an
inch too short.

This weapon in question was used by Drew while he was a


Bolingbrook, Ill. police officer.

Under Illinois state law, police officers are exempt from barrel
length requirements for duty weapons. And this particular gun was
registered as one of Drew's SWAT duty weapons.

Authorities seized the weapon in question while Drew was a


sergeant and a member of the SWAT team in the Bolingbrook Police
Dept. He did not resign until after the weapons were seized by
authorities.

This is nothing more than an attempt by state police to avoid


returning guns to Drew that had been seized as evidence.

Even if the barrel of the gun is too short under Illinois state law for
a civilian to possess, the rifle was seized while Drew was still an
officer and has not been returned to him so he would've had no
opportunity to relinquish the weapon.

I don't believe that state police ever informed prosecutors of all the
relevant information. Had they done so, I don't think the prosecutor
would ever have approved the charges."

Media Contact:
Joel A. Brodsky, Drew Peterson's Attorney Phone: (312) 701-3000
or
Glenn Selig, ThePublicityAgency.com, glenn (at) thepublicityagency.
com, (813) 948-7767

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To view this press release online: http://www.prnewschannel.com/


absolu...tes/?a=559&z=50

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Peterson arrest a media circus


http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/...RSON_S1.article

Registered: Jul 2003 May 22, 2008


Location:
Posts: 31403 By STEWART WARREN SWARREN@SCN1.COM

BOLINGBROOK -- After a warrant was issued for his arrest on a


felony gun charge, Drew Peterson walked into a rear door at the
Bolingbrook Police Department early Wednesday afternoon.

He was turning himself in.

Moments before, attorney Joel Brodsky had chauffeured his


infamous client to the building in a pale gold Mercedes. As they
arrived, reporters, photographers and cameramen swarmed the
parking lot, searching for a glimpse of the former Bolingbrook police
sergeant. Helicopters buzzed overhead.

After the department's doors closed, Brodsky started talking. The


warrant was for the unauthorized use of a weapon, he explained.

Search for Stacy

It was the latest development in the search for Stacy Peterson, 24,
a young mother of two and Peterson's fourth wife. She disappeared

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Oct. 28, and police, family and friends have been searching for her
ever since.

After she vanished, state police seized a laundry list of personal


belongings from his Bolingbrook home, including 11 guns. Although
some of the items have been returned to Peterson, he's spent the
past few months fighting for his guns.

On May 13, Will County Judge Richard Schoenstedt seemed willing


to turn them over to one of Peterson's adult sons and scheduled a
hearing on the issue for 11:30 a.m. Thursday.

Then the warrant went out.

It accuses Peterson of owning a Colt Sporter Lightweight, 223


Remington rifle with an attached EOTech electronic sight. Brodsky
called the sight a "flash suppressor."

By law, the gun should be 16 inches long. The warrant alleges that
it is three-eighths of an inch short of the legal length for a rifle,
Brodsky explained.

The charge won't stand up in court, Brodsky said. When the gun
was seized last year, Peterson still was a police officer.

"It's one of his duty weapons," the lawyer said, standing in the
police parking lot. "He was on the SWAT team for over 10 years."

SWAT officers are allowed to have nonconforming weapons,


Brodsky said. Although Peterson bought the gun himself, he
registered it with the department.

Plenty of attention

As the lawyer spoke, the press surrounded him, trapping Brodsky


against the driver's side of his car. Several bystanders circled the
crowd, clearly delighted to be close to the excitement. A young
woman with a long blond ponytail used her cell phone to snap
pictures of the media circus. And a grinning man held up a tiny
baby, trying to push the child in front of the television cameras.

The warrant is no big deal, Brodsky said. It's simply another ploy to
keep the guns from being returned to their rightful owner. He
predicted that the felony ultimately would be dismissed.

"I believe the Will County state's attorney was not given full and
accurate information when they brought this charge," Brodsky said.
"State police want neither Drew nor his family to get these guns
back."

Although Peterson has been arrested by his former colleagues, he's


not upset, Brodsky said. While with the police, he chatted, joked
and laughed.

"Maybe in their minds, it's a tactic," Brodsky said. "To try and make

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him sweat." But he said it wouldn't work.

After he answered a few more questions, the lawyer asked some of


the reporters for the address of the Will County Jail. Then he drove
the Mercedes toward Joliet to post the $7,500 bond for his client.

Drew Peterson leaves his Bolingbrook home to turn himself


in at the police department.
John Patsch/Staff Photographer
http://media1.suburbanchicagonews.c...46.imageContent

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Navigatr1 Police 'trying to harass' Drew?


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Police 'trying to harass' Drew?


http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/...RSON_S2.article

Registered: Jul 2003 May 22, 2008


Location:
Posts: 31403 By Dan Rozek and Joe Hosey drozek@suntimes.com and
jhosey@scn1.com

A short-barreled assault rifle seized nearly seven months ago from


Drew Peterson prompted authorities Thursday to file a felony
weapons charge against the former Bolingbrook police officer.

Peterson's attorney promptly ripped the arrest as a heavy-handed


attempt by state police to rattle the man who has been named a
suspect in the October 2007 disappearance of his fourth wife.

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"They are trying to harass him,'' said attorney Joel Brodsky as he


criticized the timing of the arrest, which kept Peterson in police
custody for about two hours before he posted $7,500 bail, provided
by his son, Stephen.

Peterson was charged with felony unlawful use of a weapon for


allegedly owning a Colt AR-15 assault rifle that lacked the minimum
16-inch-long barrel required under state gun laws.

Timing under fire

But his arrest comes months after the Nov. 1 police search that
resulted in 11 guns -- including the assault rifle --being removed
from his Bolingbrook home. The arrest came a day before a court
hearing that could result in a Will County judge ordering police to
release the weapons.

"I find the circumstances very suspicious,'' Brodsky said.

Even a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation


questioned the timing.

"Nobody had a ruler seven months ago?" the source said.

State police and Will County authorities defended the arrest as


"legitimate'' even as they acknowledged that the court hearing on
the weapons today helped spur the felony charge against Peterson.

"This is a legitimate charge; this is a valid charge,'' said Charles B.


Pelkie, spokesman for Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow.
"We do not want an illegal weapon to be put back on the streets.''

The gun charge means that even if state police are ordered to
release the weapons, the AR-15 won't be turned over to Peterson's
son, Stephen, a suburban police officer. Drew Peterson can't
reclaim the guns himself because his firearm owners identification
card has been revoked by state officials.

How short is barrel?

In questioning the charge, Brodsky said the rifle's barrel was only
three-eighths of an inch short of the state requirement -- and that
Peterson was allowed to own the weapon because he used it while
serving on the Bolingbrook Police Department SWAT team.

Though Peterson abruptly resigned from the department Nov. 15,


he was still a police officer when the guns were removed from his
home Nov. 1, Brodsky said.

"I hope the charges will be dropped,'' Brodsky said, adding: "It
seems to me this was done very quickly at the last minute.''

One law enforcement source, however, said the gun's barrel was
only about 11 inches long -- well short of the state limit. Another
source, meanwhile, contended Peterson couldn't legally possess the

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AR-15 even when he was a police officer because he purchased the


weapon privately.

A Bolingbrook police spokesman confirmed the weapon wasn't


issued to Peterson while he was on the department's SWAT team.
Peterson was issued an MP-5 submachine gun that was returned to
the department after investigators removed it from Peterson's
home in the fall, Lt. Ken Teppel said.

Peterson resigned from the department within weeks of the Oct. 28


disappearance of his fourth wife, 23-year-old Stacy Peterson. State
police have named him a suspect in her disappearance. Authorities
also are reviewing the 2004 bathtub drowning death of Kathleen
Savio, Drew Peterson's third wife.

Boisterous Peterson

On Thursday, Peterson wouldn't comment on the gun charge after


posting bail, instead shouting, "There's good news. I just saved a
bundle on my car insurance."

Indeed, the 54-year-old former police officer seemed in good


spirits, joking with waiting reporters as he left the Will County Jail
in Joliet.

Peterson was equally boisterous as he was driven into the jail


sallyport in an unmarked squad car, laughing aloud as he was taken
into the facility. Asked what he thought of his predicament, he said,
"The usual."

Initially, Brodsky drove Peterson from his home to the Bolingbrook


police station, where he surrendered to state police officers there.
Peterson then was driven to the Will County Jail for booking, before
being released about 3 p.m.

While in police custody, Peterson wasn't questioned about his fourth


wife's disappearance or his third wife's death, Brodsky said.

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1 of 11 weapons seized in probe of wife's disappearance was illegal,
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By Matthew Walberg and Erika Slife | Tribune reporters
May 22, 2008

On the eve of learning whether he can give his 11 guns to his son,
the long arm of the law came down on Drew Peterson because one
of his weapons was too short.

Peterson surrendered to state police Wednesday after he was


notified of a warrant for his arrest on a charge of felony unlawful
use of a weapon. By midafternoon, he was on his way back home
after posting 10 percent of a $75,000 bond.

The charge, which carries a potential penalty of up to 5 years in


prison, alleges Peterson "knowingly possessed a rifle, namely a Colt
model Sporter Lightweight, 223 Remington rifle . . . with a barrel
less than 16 inches in length," in violation of state law, the Will
County state's attorney's office said.

The former Bolingbrook police sergeant has been engaged in a


court battle to regain possession of his guns from state police, who
seized them Nov. 1as part of a search warrant at his home.

Peterson, 54, has been named a suspect in the Oct. 28


disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy, who was 23 at the time.
Authorities are also conducting a murder investigation into the 2004
drowning of his previous wife, Kathleen Savio. Peterson has not
been charged in those cases and maintains he has done nothing
wrong.

His attorney, Joel Brodsky, said Wednesday's arrest was an attempt


to rattle his client.

"This came as a total surprise this morning," he said. "We were


thinking if he was ever arrested that it would not be a bondable
offense.

"They may believe it's a tactic to shake him up, but it's certainly not
going to work," he said. "Drew was joking with police officers when
he was taken into custody."

Peterson shouted, "I love you" to reporters gathered outside the


house as he left to turn himself in.

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After his release, though, he appeared subdued and declined to


comment on the advice of Brodsky. When asked if he felt he was
being harassed, Peterson answered, "You think?"

Peterson retired from the Bolingbrook department in November, but


Brodsky said he was still an officer when the gun was seized.

"The state police had this weapon in their possession before he


retired, so there is no basis for this charge," he said. "He was a
SWAT team member and he was allowed to have two duty
weapons. This was a registered duty weapon with the Bolingbrook
Police Department, and he carried it for 10 years.

"The timing is very suspicious that they would wait until the day
before we were supposed to get the court order that the guns be
returned to his son," he said. "I think the Illinois State Police are
fixated on these guns. . . . I don't understand it. It's not logical."

Brodsky said it must mean the investigations concerning the two


wives are going nowhere, a theory the state police disputed.

"We feel the case is progressing well," Sgt. Thomas Burek said in
front of the courthouse. "An arrest will be made."

Authorities confirmed that Wednesday's arrest was made in light of


the expected ruling on whether Peterson can transfer ownership of
his guns to his son Steven, an Oak Brook police officer. At a hearing
last week, Judge Richard Schoenstedt appeared to signal that he
would grant Peterson's request.

"The weapon was illegal, and it was privately owned," said Charles
Pelkie, spokesman for the state's attorney's office. "Up to this point,
it's been in the possession of the Illinois State Police so it wasn't
really an issue. But we can't allow an illegal weapon to go back out
on the street. At this point, it was appropriate to file the charge."

Pelkie said the rifle barrel was slightly more than 11 inches long—
almost five inches shorter than required by law. He said that even
with a removable flash suppressor attached to the end—which
legally cannot be considered part of the barrel—the gun was still too
short.

While state law provides an exemption for law enforcement to carry


a shorter weapon, Pelkie said that does not apply to Peterson but
declined to say why.

Bolingbrook police spokesman Lt. Ken Teppel said the weapon was
not issued by the department, and any personal weapons owned by
Peterson must be lawful. Teppel said, "If it's a personal weapon, he
is still bound by state law, federal law."

The arrest—while tangential to the search for Stacy Peterson—


initially brought hope and excitement to the missing woman's
relatives, though it was quickly tempered when they learned more

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about the nature of the charge.

"We were, of course, very hopeful when we heard that he was


going to be arrested," said Pam Bosco, spokeswoman for the
family. "But as we found out more, I can't say we were
disappointed, but . . . our hearts leaped from our chests when we
first heard there was going to be an arrest."

She said Peterson should be prosecuted if he is guilty of having an


illegal weapon.

"We don't want to see anything that's not being done according to
the law, especially if these guns are going to be returned to his
family members," Bosco said.

Tribune reporter Emma Fitzsimmons contributed to this report.

mwalberg@tribune.com

eslife@tribune.com

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After nearly seven months, police finally nabbed Drew Peterson.

But it had nothing to do with the disappearance of his fourth wife,


23-year-old Stacy Peterson, or the 2004 bathtub drowning death of
third wife Kathleen Savio.

Instead, it was the size of a short-barreled rifle police seized from


Drew Peterson in November that prompted authorities Wednesday
to file a felony weapons charge against him.

The former Bolingbrook police officer's lawyer ripped the arrest as a


heavy-handed attempt to rattle the man who has been named a
suspect in the Oct. 28 disappearance of Stacy Peterson.

"They are trying to harass him," said attorney Joel Brodsky,


criticizing the timing of the arrest, which kept Peterson in police
custody for about two hours before he posted $7,500 bail.

Peterson was charged with felony unlawful use of a weapon for


allegedly owning a Colt AR-15 assault rifle that lacked the minimum
16-inch barrel required under state law.

His arrest comes months after the Nov. 1, 2007, police search that
resulted in 11 guns -- including the assault rifle -- being removed
from his Bolingbrook home. And it came a day before a hearing that
could result in a judge ordering police to release the weapons.

"I find the circumstances very suspicious," Brodsky said.

Even a law enforcement source questioned the timing.

"Nobody had a ruler seven months ago?" the source said.

State Police and Will County authorities defended the arrest as


"legitimate," even as they acknowledged that the court hearing
scheduled for today helped spur the felony charge.

"This is a legitimate charge, this is a valid charge," said Charles


Pelkie, spokesman for Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow.
"We do not want an illegal weapon to be put back on the streets."

The gun charge means that even if State Police are ordered to
release the weapons, the AR-15 won't be turned over to Peterson's
son, Stephen, who is a suburban police officer. Drew Peterson can't
reclaim the guns himself because his firearm owner's identification

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card has been revoked by state officials.

Questioning the charge, Brodsky claimed the rifle's barrel was only
three-eighths of an inch short of the limit -- and that Peterson was
allowed to own it because he used it while serving on the
Bolingbrook Police Department SWAT team.

One law enforcement source, however, said the gun's barrel was
only about 11 inches -- well short of the state limit. Another source
contended Peterson couldn't legally possess the AR-15 even when
he was a police officer because he purchased it privately.

A Bolingbrook police spokesman confirmed the weapon wasn't


issued to Peterson while he was on the department's SWAT team.

Peterson wouldn't comment on the charge after posting bail. But


the 54-year-old former cop seemed in good spirits, joking with
reporters as he left the Will County Jail.

"There's good news. I just saved a bundle on my car insurance,"


Peterson yelled to reporters.

Joe Hosey is a reporter at the Herald News.

Drew Peterson leaves the Will County Jail with his lawyer
after posting bond on gun charges on Wednesday.
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GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Tonight, there is breaking news.


Sergeant Drew Peterson arrested on a gun charge. Plus, Peterson is
a suspect in his wife number four, Stacy Peterson's, disappearance.
Stacy vanished October 28, 2007. And Peterson's wife number
three, Kathleen Savio's, March 1, 2004, death has recently been
reclassified as a homicide and is being investigated.

The spokesperson for the Will County state's attorney and Sergeant
Burek of the Illinois State Police spoke earlier about Peterson's
arrest at a press conference.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CHARLES PELKIE, WILL COUNTY STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE: The


Will County state's attorney's office and the Illinois State Police
announced today that a charge of unlawful use of a weapon has
been filed against Drew Walter Peterson. The charge alleges that
the defendant knowingly possessed a rifle, namely, a Colt model
Sporter (ph) lightweight with a barrel less than 16 inches in length,
in violation of Illinois state law.

Peterson was arrested by Illinois State Police in Bolingbrook this


morning. Bond was set at $75,000. He posted 10 percent, $7,500,
at the Will County jail to secure his release while he's awaiting trial.

Unlawful use of a weapon is a class three felony that carries a


penalty of up to five years in prison upon conviction. The rifle was
one of a number of weapons that were seized from Mr. Peterson's
house during the execution of a search warrant back in -- on
November 1 of 2007.

We're available to answer a limited number of questions.

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QUESTION: His attorney, Mr. Brodsky, says the state police are just
harassing him. What do you say to that, sir?

SGT. THOMAS BUREK, ILLINOIS STATE POLICE: No, we determined


that the weapon was illegal. The barrel is under the 16-inch length.
And an arrest was made today.

QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE) quote, unquote, "a technicality," to drag


him into jail and do all the media horde, and so on, would that be,
in your mind, harassing him? Are you trying to get him to talk?

BUREK: Absolutely not. That weapon was illegal, and it was


determined to be so, and he was arrested.

QUESTION: Was it modified by him? Because Joel Brodsky is saying


this was his SWAT service weapon. He's done no modification to it,
and he's allowed to, as a law enforcement officer, have weapons
that are under the length specified...

PELKIE: At this point, we can't comment on that, but what we can


say is that is an illegal weapon. He's not allowed to possess that
weapon. You can't possess that weapon in the state that it's
currently in.

(CROSSTALK)

QUESTION: You've had the gun since November, and he's saying,
Look, you've had it six months. Did it take you that long to figure
that out?

PELKIE: No, absolutely not. We've known it was illegal since shortly
after the gun was taken into possession by the Illinois State Police.

QUESTION: Then why today?

PELKIE: At this point -- you know, initially, the determination was


made not to file a charge in that case, and that's not uncommon
when you've got a broad investigation, and we've got two
investigations that are going on right now. The determination was
made early on, you know, not to charge the case, but now, you
know, we're faced with the potential that an illegal weapon may be
put back onto the streets, and we can't allow that to happen.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VAN SUSTEREN: What does Sergeant Peterson have to say about


this new felony gun charge? Our cameras caught Peterson leaving
the Will County jail.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DREW PETERSON, SUSPECT IN 4TH WIFE'S DISAPPEARANCE:


There's good news.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait!

PETERSON: I just saved a bundle on my car insurance.

(LAUGHTER)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Excuse us.

QUESTION: Drew, what do you think about all this craziness?

PETERSON: What?

QUESTION: What do you think about...

(CROSSTALK)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm doing well.

QUESTION: And what do you think of the charges?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Guys, give him some room.

QUESTION: Come on, tell us something.

QUESTION: Say something.

(CROSSTALK)

PETERSON: I just saved a bundle on my car insurance.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VAN SUSTEREN: Sergeant Peterson's lawyer, Joel Brodsky, spoke


earlier.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOEL BRODSKY, ATTORNEY FOR DREW PETERSON: They're alleging


that Drew's AR-15, which was his SWAT duty weapon, is three
eighths of an inch too short, the barrel is three eighths of an inch
too short. However, that's not illegal under Illinois law because
police officers' duty weapons are allowed to be non-conforming.
After talking to the state's attorney's office this morning, it's my
belief that they were not given full and accurate information prior to
bringing this charge and that further investigation will result in this
charge being dismissed.

QUESTION: The charge is a misdemeanor?

BRODSKY: No, it's a felony.

QUESTION: So what's your reaction to them bringing this charge on


the day before he's supposed to get the weapons turned over to his
son?

BRODSKY: Well, it's the same thing that they did with the EPO (ph)

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ID card the day before the weapons were supposed to be turned


over to him. I think this is, on the part of the state police, another
ploy to prevent the weapons from being returned. I do not
understand why the state police can be so fixated on these
weapons that they're willing to go to such extraordinary lengths to
prevent it, but that seems to be the case.

You have to understand that he was a SWAT officer, and SWAT


officers are allowed to have non-conforming weapons. They can
have short-barreled weapons. They can have fully weapons. They
can use, you know, the armor- piercing rounds. They're allowed to
do that by state law, and Drew was a SWAT officer up until the day
he resigned and this was a registered duty weapon. So I believe
that when the full investigation is done, when they second check
these things that I just informed the state's attorney of this
morning, that I'm hopeful that these charges will be stopped.

This weapon was already in the possession of the state police


before he resigned.

QUESTION: How did they come into possession (INAUDIBLE)

BRODSKY: They asked. They asked -- they took some of the guns,
and some of the guns -- the rest of the guns were voluntarily
surrendered 1st of November. He didn't resign until mid-November.

QUESTION: So he was never not a police officer when he possessed


this.

BRODSKY: That's correct.

QUESTION: So there was never, in your mind, anything illegal


about him having it.

BRODSKY: Absolutely not. And as I said, I do not believe that the


state's attorney had full and complete information when they
approved these charges.

QUESTION: Joel, what type of weapon is it again?

BRODSKY: It's an AR-15. It's an assault weapon, assault rifle.

QUESTION: Do you know if it's one of the ones that he surrendered


or one of the ones (INAUDIBLE)

BRODSKY: I believe it's one of the ones he voluntarily surrendered.

QUESTION: Why did they wait until (INAUDIBLE) Talk about the
timing.

BRODSKY: Yes, the timing is very suspicious, that they would wait
until the day before we're going to get -- supposed to get the court
order that the guns be returned to his son.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

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VAN SUSTEREN: We asked Bolingbrook police chief Ray McGurry for


clarification about the gun charge against Sergeant Peterson. Chief
McGurry sent us this statement. "We believe Drew Peterson
purchased that weapon, an AR-15, from a third party. Drew
Peterson was not authorized to carry that weapon and it is not
registered with the Bolingbrook Police Department. No police officer
is authorized to carry such a weapon. However, a SWAT team
member is, but that weapon must be brought in and inspected by
our firearms expert to make sure it doesn't violate any state or
federal laws. The serial number must be recorded, and they must
pass a qualifications test. Mr. Peterson did none of these. Because it
was altered, this weapon is a clear violation of any regulations, and
Mr. Peterson was not authorized to carry that weapon. I challenge
Mr. Brodsky to subpoena our records, as he has threatened to do.
He will find no record of this weapon."

Now, Peterson's lawyer, Joel Brodsky, text-message our producer,


saying the gun was registered as a second duty weapon with the
Bolingbrook Police Department.

Joining us live in Bolingbrook is Mary Frances Bragiel, a reporter for


WBBM. Boy, this is a battle of words, isn't it, between Joel Brodsky
and the police department.

MARY FRANCES BRAGIEL, WBBM-AM: It certainly is. Once again,


this has become a media circus out here, Greta. There is a lot of
activity out here, and it all has to do with the media. And I got to
tell you the only time we've seen Drew Peterson since he posted
bond was two occasions. The most recent was about an hour ago,
when somebody brought a gift basket by. He accepted that and got
his mail, went back inside and avoided the media, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: Any idea who gave him this gift basket?

BRAGIEL: No, I don't at all. It was a young girl who appeared to


come up here in the car. It was, you know, a fairly large gift
basket. But he was happy to parade it back into his home in front of
the media.

VAN SUSTEREN: What is his bail?

BRAGIEL: Right now -- right now, Greta, it appears we've got a car
behind me. The alarm is going off in this interview here, so I don't
know if he's doing that from inside the house or if a neighbor is
doing that or what.

VAN SUSTEREN: Or maybe the producers are trying to steal the car.

BRAGIEL: Possibly.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, that's an interesting touch. At least it's not a


siren, so that's the positive part.

(CROSSTALK)

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VAN SUSTEREN: Can you swing around, at least show us -- is that


car right in front of Drew's house?

BRAGIEL: Oh, apparently -- apparently, that is (INAUDIBLE)


apparently, that is Drew's car, I'm told by neighbors. So obviously,
Drew may be watching this program right now and we're talking
about him and talking about today's events, so...

(CROSSTALK)

VAN SUSTEREN: My money is on it that Drew has hit the -- has hit
the key and sounded the alarm. That's a riot.

BRAGIEL: You think so? You think -- he is a funny guy, according to


him, and this is how he handles the stress.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, at least it's only 9:08 Central time, and so
the kids in the neighborhood -- I don't know, is it school night
there? I guess -- we have satellite trucks (INAUDIBLE) He's now
added to the (INAUDIBLE) with the horn.

BRAGIEL: It's a school night here, but plenty of neighbors are out in
this area, just watching what is going on. So clearly -- and it's a
nice evening out here, so nobody's inside.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, the good thing is, is that he can -- he can
say that he doesn't want all the attention.

BRAGIEL: Oh, no. Are you kidding me? He loves all this attention.
I'm sure he'll be out before the night's over, getting his mail once
again.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, he made a crack when he said something


coming out after posting the $7,500 bond. He said he saved a
bundle on car insurance. Is that the car he's talking about, I
wonder?

BRAGIEL: It could be. He told me on the phone late this evening


that he will never return a library book late, which is a joke, which
is what he said initially when they had the search warrant last year,
November 1. We saw him when he was walking around with that
American flag around his face when he didn't want to be
recognized. So here you go. It's off.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Well, you know what? I got to give him
credit. Sort of funny how he -- he punk'd us. Anyway, Mary
Frances, thank you.

BRAGIEL: Thank you, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, Ric Mims, Sergeant Peterson's former friend


and who stayed in the Peterson home with Drew in the days after
Stacy was reported missing, joins us in Chicago. Ric, I don't know if
you just saw that. It was sort of interesting, the horn honking on

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Drew's car, an interesting tough. But anyway, let's talk about these
guns. When did you stay at Drew Peterson's home?

RIC MIMS, FORMER FRIEND OF DREW PETERSON: Shortly after


Stacy disappeared. I showed up there I believe it was the Tuesday,
and I stayed until right at the 1st.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So -- so she disappeared Sunday, the


28th, 29th. So you arrived on the 30th. Did you ever see -- did
Drew ever show you these guns? And of course, at the time, he was
a police officer, you know, an active police officer. Did you see any
guns in his home?

MIMS: Prior to Stacy disappearing a few years ago, he was showing


me his gun collection and he had showed me the weapons, you
know?

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. The one in question, which is the AR-15,
apparently, at least the allegation is, is that it has been -- that it is
too -- the barrel is too short, that it might have -- has it been
altered, do you know?

MIMS: I don't think so. I think that he purchased it that way. He's
not a gunsmith. He's just a gun collector, so...

VAN SUSTEREN: It -- and...

MIMS: I don't think he would personally alter a gun to make it


illegal. I think he purchased it that way.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. And the allegation, it's three eighths of
an inch too short. At one time, it had a suppressor on the end of it.
Did you ever see the suppressor on the end of that gun?

MIMS: I can't remember if it was on there or not when he showed


me. Like I said, it was a few years ago. It was when he first moved
into his house on Pheasant Chase (ph) there.

VAN SUSTEREN: Have you talked to Drew since you left his home?

MIMS: No. No, I haven't. I haven't had any contact with him.

VAN SUSTEREN: How come?

MIMS: I haven't had any reason to. I don't believe his story. I don't
believe his alibis. He told me that Sharon next door was a liar,
which I don't believe. So I made my own conclusions, and based on
what the state police and Sharon and everybody that is close to the
story has revealed to me, is that, I mean, he's guilty.

VAN SUSTEREN: He -- one of the allegations, Ric, was that a


relative of his helped to move something out of that house. And
we've tried to find that relative. Do you know where that relative is?
He lives a couple blocks away.

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MIMS: No, I haven't heard anything other than when the news
story broke originally, that he was in the hospital for, I guess,
trying to commit suicide right when -- about the same time Stacy
disappeared. And I really don't know much about, other than what
I've heard, you know, through the media.

VAN SUSTEREN: Ric, thank you.

MIMS: All right. Thanks, Greta.

AP
A joke-cracking Drew Peterson didn't appear too concerned
about the felony gun charge he faces.
http://www.foxnews.com/images/37174...rewPeterson.jpg

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Drew Peterson is free on bail after arrest on weapons charge


1 of 11 weapons seized in probe of wife's disappearance was illegal,
prosecutors say
Registered: Jul 2003 http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,1888287.story
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Posts: 31403
By Matthew Walberg and Erika Slife | Tribune reporters
May 22, 2008

On the eve of learning whether he can give his 11 guns to his son,
the long arm of the law came down on Drew Peterson because one
of his weapons was too short.

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Peterson surrendered to state police Wednesday after he was


notified of a warrant for his arrest on a charge of felony unlawful
use of a weapon. By midafternoon, he was on his way back home
after posting 10 percent of a $75,000 bond.

The charge, which carries a potential penalty of up to 5 years in


prison, alleges Peterson "knowingly possessed a rifle, namely a Colt
model Sporter Lightweight, 223 Remington rifle . . . with a barrel
less than 16 inches in length," in violation of state law, the Will
County state's attorney's office said.

The former Bolingbrook police sergeant has been engaged in a


court battle to regain possession of his guns from state police, who
seized them Nov. 1as part of a search warrant at his home.

Peterson, 54, has been named a suspect in the Oct. 28


disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy, who was 23 at the time.
Authorities are also conducting a murder investigation into the 2004
drowning of his previous wife, Kathleen Savio. Peterson has not
been charged in those cases and maintains he has done nothing
wrong.

His attorney, Joel Brodsky, said Wednesday's arrest was an attempt


to rattle his client.

"This came as a total surprise this morning," he said. "We were


thinking if he was ever arrested that it would not be a bondable
offense.

"They may believe it's a tactic to shake him up, but it's certainly not
going to work," he said. "Drew was joking with police officers when
he was taken into custody."

Peterson shouted, "I love you" to reporters gathered outside the


house as he left to turn himself in.

After his release, though, he appeared subdued and declined to


comment on the advice of Brodsky. When asked if he felt he was
being harassed, Peterson answered, "You think?"

Peterson retired from the Bolingbrook department in November, but


Brodsky said he was still an officer when the gun was seized.

"The state police had this weapon in their possession before he


retired, so there is no basis for this charge," he said. "He was a
SWAT team member and he was allowed to have two duty
weapons. This was a registered duty weapon with the Bolingbrook
Police Department, and he carried it for 10 years.

"The timing is very suspicious that they would wait until the day
before we were supposed to get the court order that the guns be
returned to his son," he said. "I think the Illinois State Police are
fixated on these guns. . . . I don't understand it. It's not logical."

Brodsky said it must mean the investigations concerning the two

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wives are going nowhere, a theory the state police disputed.

"We feel the case is progressing well," Sgt. Thomas Burek said in
front of the courthouse. "An arrest will be made."

Authorities confirmed that Wednesday's arrest was made in light of


the expected ruling on whether Peterson can transfer ownership of
his guns to his son Steven, an Oak Brook police officer. At a hearing
last week, Judge Richard Schoenstedt appeared to signal that he
would grant Peterson's request.

"The weapon was illegal, and it was privately owned," said Charles
Pelkie, spokesman for the state's attorney's office. "Up to this point,
it's been in the possession of the Illinois State Police so it wasn't
really an issue. But we can't allow an illegal weapon to go back out
on the street. At this point, it was appropriate to file the charge."

Pelkie said the rifle barrel was slightly more than 11 inches long—
almost five inches shorter than required by law. He said that even
with a removable flash suppressor attached to the end—which
legally cannot be considered part of the barrel—the gun was still too
short.

While state law provides an exemption for law enforcement to carry


a shorter weapon, Pelkie said that does not apply to Peterson but
declined to say why.

Bolingbrook police spokesman Lt. Ken Teppel said the weapon was
not issued by the department, and any personal weapons owned by
Peterson must be lawful. Teppel said, "If it's a personal weapon, he
is still bound by state law, federal law."

The arrest—while tangential to the search for Stacy Peterson—


initially brought hope and excitement to the missing woman's
relatives, though it was quickly tempered when they learned more
about the nature of the charge.

"We were, of course, very hopeful when we heard that he was


going to be arrested," said Pam Bosco, spokeswoman for the
family. "But as we found out more, I can't say we were
disappointed, but . . . our hearts leaped from our chests when we
first heard there was going to be an arrest."

She said Peterson should be prosecuted if he is guilty of having an


illegal weapon.

"We don't want to see anything that's not being done according to
the law, especially if these guns are going to be returned to his
family members," Bosco said.

Tribune reporter Emma Fitzsimmons contributed to this report.

mwalberg@tribune.com

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eslife@tribune.com

This is the Colt model Sporter Lightweight, 223 Remington


rifle allegedly at issue in the weapons charge against Drew
Peterson. (Handout, Will County State's Attorney HAN / May
21, 2008)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/media...05/39107785.jpg

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GC Marciano Here is a satallite image of Drew Peterson's Bolingbrook home.


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Drew Walter Peterson
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Bolingbrook, IL 60490

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BOLINGBROOK | Dismissal of gun charge sought
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...oling31.article
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BY DAN ROZEK Staff Reporter/drozek@suntimes.com

Drew Peterson has new ammunition to fight the gun charge he


faces, his attorneys said Friday, arguing that federal law allows the
ex-Bolingbrook cop to own the assault rifle that prompted his arrest.

During Peterson's first court appearance, his attorneys formally


asked a Will County judge to dismiss the felony weapons charge
that alleges Peterson owns an AR-15 rifle with an illegally short
barrel.

The 54-year-old Peterson shouldn't have been charged because a


federal law allows police officers nationwide to own and carry such
weapons, even if state laws don't, defense attorneys said.

"Drew has immunity from prosecution because of his status as a


law enforcement officer," attorney Joel Brodsky said after the
hearing.

State Police seized the gun last November while investigating the
Oct. 28 disappearance of Peterson's fourth wife, Stacy. At that
time, Drew Peterson was a Bolingbrook police sergeant, though he
has since retired.

Judge Sarah Jones made no ruling on the request but set a June 30
hearing date.

Will County prosecutors quickly moved to shoot down Brodsky's


argument.

The federal gun law only allows police officers to carry concealed
handguns and has "no bearing whatsoever" on the gun charge filed
against Peterson, said Charles Pelkie, a spokesman for Will County

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State's Attorney James Glasgow.

"At the time this weapon was seized, Peterson did not have an
exemption to own and carry a rifle with an illegal barrel -- either for
his personal use or in his capacity as a police officer," Pelkie said.

Peterson remains free on bail on the gun charge, which carries a


maximum five-year prison term.

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GC Marciano Peterson's son picks up seized weapons, attorney says


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Wednesday, June 04, 2008

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?se...ocal&id=6185539

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. -- Former Bolingbrook Police Sergeant Drew


Peterson's son has picked up eight guns that authorities seized
from Peterson's house last year.

Peterson's attorney Joel Brodsky says Steve Peterson retrieved


Registered: Jul 2003 the guns Wednesday from the state police, which seized them
Location: Chicago, Illinois as part of an investigation into the October disappearance of
Posts: 9967 Drew Peterson's wife, Stacy.

Last month, a judge ruled Peterson could transfer ownership of

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the guns to his son and that authorities must turn them over.

Peterson is a suspect in his wife's disappearance but hasn't


been charged. He's been charged with a weapons violation after
authorities determined the barrel of one of his guns wasn't long
enough under state law.

Peterson contends he didn't break the law.

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GC Marciano BREAKING NEWS:


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
I just passed Drew Peterson's Bollingbrook home - or as close
to it as I could get as the area is again swarming with media
vans.

Drew was in Will County court today on his felony weapons


charge. The judge dismissed the case.

However, I'm told by a MSNBC media representative camped


Registered: Jul 2003 out near his home that the State's Attorney is ready to indict
Location: Chicago, Illinois Drew Peterson on a murder charge and an arrest could be
Posts: 9967 imminent due to the passage of the "Drew Peterson Law"
which allows a judge to admit hearsay evidence into court for
some first-degree murder cases fitting a specific criteria.

The new State law passed the House today with a vote of 109 -
0 and takes effect immediately.

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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GC Marciano House passes 'Drew Peterson law'


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http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com...-passes-dr.html

SPRINGFIELD---The House today voted 109-0 to put into law a


bill that could affect a potential prosecution against former
Bolingbrook Police Sgt. Drew Peterson in the cases of either one
of his last two wives.

The bill, which is backed by the Will County state's attorney's


Registered: Jul 2003 office, would allow a judge to admit hearsay evidence into court
Location: Chicago, Illinois for first-degree murder cases if the prosecution could prove that
Posts: 9967 the defendant killed a witness to prevent testimony.

The House vote followed Senate approval a week before. Their


votes meant lawmakers accepted changes proposed by Gov.
Rod Blagojevich that allowed the law to become effective as
soon as the House approved the measure.

Peterson's last two wives had told family and friends that they
were fearful of Peterson, who is a suspect in the Oct. 28, 2007,
disappearance in his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson. In addition,
Stacy Peterson also told her minister that her husband had
allegedly confessed to her that he killed his third wife, Kathleen
Savio, according to the minister.

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Night Raven Suspect cop says he's engaged to be married


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Suspect cop says he's engaged to be married


Wednesday, December 17, 2008 10:30 AM EST
The Associated Press

Registered: May 2008


Location:
Posts: 4812 CHICAGO (AP) — A publicist for the former Illinois police sergeant
suspected in the disappearance of his wife says the ex-officer is
engaged to be married again.

Publicist Glenn Selig (SEH'-lig) says 54-year-old Drew Peterson


proposed within the last week after dating the woman for about
four months.

Selig says the woman is 23 — the same age as Stacy Peterson


when she disappeared in October 2007.

Illinois state police call Peterson a suspect in the disappearance of


his wife but no charges have been filed against the former officer
from the Chicago suburb of Bolingbrook

Peterson claims his wife left him for another man.

Selig wouldn't give any details about Peterson's new fiance and
Peterson wouldn't comment.

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liberranter Re: Suspect cop says he's engaged to be married


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quote:

Originally posted by Night Raven

...Drew Peterson proposed within the last


week after dating the woman for about four
months.

Selig says the woman is 23 — the same age as


Stacy Peterson when she disappeared in
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ October 2007.
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I'm trying to imagine how any woman could be stupid enough


to marry someone like Drew Peterson. It pains me to say it, but
if she becomes his next victim, I don't think I'll be able to
muster up any sympathy for her.

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kola is the new bride missing yet?


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liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by kola

is the new bride missing yet?

Missing a brain, most definitely.

Registered: Jun 2005


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Cop suspected in wife's vanishing loses new love


Friday, January 30, 2009 8:31 PM EST
The Associated Press

Registered: May 2008


Location:
Posts: 4812 BOLINGBROOK, Ill. (AP) — A woman who became engaged to a
former suburban Chicago police sergeant suspected in his wife's
2007 disappearance moved out of his home Friday, hours after he
spoke about his current and past relationships on a national
television show.

Christina Raines, 24, removed her belongings from Drew Peterson's


home as the woman's father looked on, along with a television
camera crew and officers from Peterson's former department, said
Bolingbrook police spokesman Lt. Ken Teppel.

Peterson, 55, is suspected in the October 2007 disappearance of his


fourth wife, Stacy Peterson. Peterson has not been charged, but
authorities have said they are investigating the disappearance as a
possible homicide.

Peterson has denied any involvement in his wife's disappearance


and has maintained that he believes she left him for another man.

Peterson declined to discuss reasons for the breakup with his


fiancee, though Selig said it was prompted by Peterson's
appearance Thursday on ABC's "Nightline."

Peterson had said on the show that he treated Raines "better than
she's ever been treated."

Hours later, Raines, her father, Ernest, and a TV crew came to the
home to retrieve her belongings. Peterson refused to allow the
father on his property or the cameras in the home, and Ernest
Raines called police Friday morning, Teppel said.

"Drew did tell me it's over," said Glenn Selig, Peterson's publicist.

Authorities also are investigating the death of Peterson's third wife,


Kathleen Savio, whose body was found in an empty bathtub in her
house in 2004. After Stacy Peterson disappeared, authorities
reopened the investigation of Savio's death, which was originally
classified as an accident. Her body was exhumed and her death was
reclassified as a homicide following an autopsy.

In December, Peterson had said he was concerned media attention


might strain and ultimately end the relationship with Raines, who at
the time was 23 — the same age as Stacy Peterson when she

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disappeared.

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01-30-2009 11:47 PM

photoman Did Drew file for DIVORCE? He claims his wife is still alive and left
Senior Member him for another man - so if he were going to get married he would
be required by law to get a Divorce before he could legally marry
Registered: Aug 2006 again.
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Posts: 875 It would be interesting to know how he played that off!

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GC Marciano Yes, Drew filed for divorce a month or so back.


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GC Marciano Drew Peterson's New Fiancee Moves Out


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Christina Raines' Father Shows Up With 'Dr. Phil Show' Crew
BOLINGBROOK, Ill. (CBS) ―
Jan 31, 2009

http://cbs11tv.com/national/drew.pe...d.2.923338.html

A day after Drew Peterson told ABC's "Nightline" he hoped to


marry the 24-year-old woman who had moved in with him --
she moved out, reports CBS station WBBM-TV in Chicago.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Bolingbrook police Lt. Ken Teppel confirmed that three squad
Posts: 9967
cars responded to Peterson's home about 10:30 a.m. Friday.

It was a heated breakup that finally ended with Christina Raines


and her father moving all of her belongings out of Peterson's
home and into two waiting vehicles. No tickets were issued and
no punches were thrown.
Teppel said Ernie Raines, the father of Christina Raines, showed
up at Peterson's home with a camera crew.

Raines and the crew planned to move the belongings of


Christina and her two children from the home she shared with
Peterson.

"I am not afraid about me," Ernie Raines said. "I can handle
me. I was worried about my daughter, because if she crosses
him I know what this man is capable of."

Teppel said Peterson confronted the group, cursing at them.

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Raines then went to the police and asked them to stand by


while the move was completed.

At that point, Teppel said, Peterson's only request was that the
camera crew leave during the move.

About two hours after the move-out, Peterson emerged from


the house to take one of his kids to school. He invited a WBBM
reporter inside and promptly said that he didn't want to talk
about his fiancée's sudden departure.

Peterson, who is a suspect in the disappearance of his fourth


wife, Stacy, wanted to make the young woman from Romeoville
his fifth bride. But it all fell apart, sources say, when Christina
Raines' father told his daughter that if she didn't move out he
would never speak with her again. Sources close to Peterson
say she agreed to move out because of that ultimatum and in
part because she was upset by what Peterson said during a
national appearance on "Nightline."

In that interview, Peterson, 55, said he likes being married. "I


enjoy belonging to somebody," he said.

But he also acknowledged that, while he liked the early


romantic stages of each relationship, he eventually lost interest
when "there was no excitement in the marriage anymore."

Ernie Raines this week went on the television show of Dr. Phil,
who told the father to have suitcases packed for Cristina to
leave. An alternative plan called for Ernie Raines to pretend to
approve of the union, gain his daughter's trust, then convince
her to leave.

"I didn't have to use either one of them," Raines said.

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, released the following


statement: "It's a shame that Ernie Raines has turned his
daughter into a Jerry Springeresque media figure. This all could
have been handled quietly and privately."

"(Peterson) is the Jerry Springer, not me," Earnie Raines


countered. "I am doing what I am supposed to do as a father –
for my daughter."

Stacy Peterson's sister, Cassandra Cales, is happy Christina


Raines has moved out.

"I think it's very good that she's learned early on that she needs
to get out of there and get safe away from him until he's
arrested," Cales said. "I don't want another victim. We don't
need another family like mine or the Savios losing their loved
one."

Peterson's third wife was found dead in a bathtub nearly five


years ago. Medical examiners later determined that she was

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murdered.

Peterson started dating the young woman who would become


his fourth wife while he was still married to Savio. Cales
believes Raines could have been next.

Peterson said he'll miss Christina and her kids after she leaves
under pressure from family, "But I won't miss the other
nonsense," according to a release from Derek Armstrong,
author of "Drew Peterson Exposed."

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Night Raven Drew Peterson fiancee hopes for summer wedding


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Drew Peterson fiancee hopes for summer wedding


Friday, February 13, 2009 9:42 AM EST
The Associated Press

Registered: May 2008


Location: NEW YORK (AP) — A woman who previously called her engagement
Posts: 4812 to a former Illinois police sergeant suspected in his wife's
disappearance a publicity "stunt" says their engagement is real and
she hopes to marry him this summer.

Christina Raines told NBC's "Today" in an interview broadcast Friday


that her father has made it clear he won't attend her wedding to
Drew Peterson. The 24-year-old woman's family is scared for her
safety.

She didn't directly address her claim earlier this month their

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engagement was a publicity stunt.

Peterson has been named a suspect in the 2007 disappearance of


his fourth wife. His third wife died in 2004, and the death was later
ruled a homicide.

The 55-year-old Peterson has denied any wrongdoing.

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a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live
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that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
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02-13-2009 01:51 PM

TheJackel Attorney for Drew Peterson dismisses reports that Peterson enlisted
DOUGHNUT MAKER - cream stepbrother
with that sir?

Attorney for Drew Peterson dismisses reports that Peterson


Registered: Sep 2007 enlisted stepbrother to help dispose of his wife's body
Location: In the dumpster
behind Krispy Kreme
Posts: 538 Thomas Morphey this week told a newspaper he helped Peterson
move a blue barrel out of Peterson's house on the day Stacy
Peterson disappeared

Drew Peterson's attorney Tuesday dismissed reports that Peterson


had asked his stepbrother whether he loved him enough to kill for
him and that he enlisted that same stepbrother to help him dispose
of his wife's body in 2007.

In his first public interview, Peterson's stepbrother, Thomas


Morphey this week told the Joliet Herald News that he had helped
Peterson move a blue barrel out of Peterson's house on the day that
Peterson's wife, Stacy, disappeared. The Tribune had previously
reported Morphey's alleged role in the day's events.

But Morphey also said that the day before the blue barrel incident,
Drew Peterson asked him: "How much do you love me?" and
"enough to kill for me?"

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, played down the significance of


Morphey's interview, saying the man has a history of drug and

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alcohol abuse. Morphey has also attempted suicide, including in the


days after Stacy Peterson vanished.

"A person like that has fantasies—they are delusional," Brodsky


said. "They can create things for whatever reason, they can twist
facts or circumstances to meet their own needs. So you can't really
take a person like that at their word."

Morphey could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

Peterson, 55, a former Bolingbrook police sergeant, is the sole


suspect in the disappearance of Stacy Peterson, who is his fourth
wife, and was 23 at the time. Authorities have called the case a
"potential homicide," which has led them to re-investigate the
mysterious death of Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio, who was
found dead in a bathtub in 2004.

According to the report out this week, when Morphey said he


couldn't live with killing someone, Drew asked: "Could you live with
knowing about it?" according to Morphey, who said he replied:
"Yeah, I guess. We always figured you killed Kathleen."

Morphey told the newspaper that he has not been called to testify
before the special grand jury investigating the Peterson cases.

Brodsky said that it could show that the Will County state's
attorney's office believes Morphey has a credibility problem.

"If they found him credible [he] would have been one of the first
witnesses they brought in [to the grand jury] and they would have
based the entire case on his testimony," Brodsky said.

Charles Pelkie, spokesman for the state's attorney's office, declined


to comment on whether Morphey had testified before the grand jury.

"The only thing I can say is these investigations are moving ahead
full steam," he said, "and we expect to bring one to conclusion."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,6234138.story

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03-17-2009 01:50 PM

liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
But Morphey also said that the day before the
blue barrel incident, Drew Peterson asked
him: "How much do you love me?" and
"enough to kill for me?"

Given the obvious fact that Drew Peterson is an incurable


murdering scumbag who will do anything to cover his tracks,
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ it's much more likely that he coerced his step-brother into
Posts: 5865 abetting his crimes through threats, blackmail, violence, or
some combination of all three.

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the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

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freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
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photoman If Peterson were anyone but a cop he would already be sitting on


Senior Member Death Row.

Registered: Aug 2006 I want to point out as much as I would love to see him convicted of
Location: Under your bed... killing those women, the tactics being deployed by allowing the
Posts: 875 admission of hearsay evidence (The Drew Peterson Law) in a
criminal trial is headed down a very slippery slope for ever other
member of the public.

This is a convenient way to slip one in on the public that wants


blood from a murdering cop. They know cops are not held to such
high esteem at this point in time, so what better way / time to slip
a law in that can and will be expanded on to permanently allow
hear say evidence in all criminal trials?

Just think of the WAR ON DRUGS on STERIODS!

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03-17-2009 11:46 PM

Night Raven Agree, Photoman!


Senior Member
quote:

If Peterson were anyone but a cop he would already be


sitting on Death Row.

I want to point out as much as I would love to see him


convicted of killing those women, the tactics being
Registered: May 2008 deployed by allowing the admission of hearsay
Location: evidence (The Drew Peterson Law) in a criminal trial is
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headed down a very slippery slope for ever other
member of the public.

This is a convenient way to slip one in on the public


that wants blood from a murdering cop. They know
cops are not held to such high esteem at this point in
time, so what better way / time to slip a law in that can
and will be expanded on to permanently allow hear say
evidence in all criminal trials?

I agree, Photoman. The efforts of the Big Fat Blue Line Gang to
protect one of their own is very obvious in the case of Kopscum
Peterson. His actions are way beyond outrageous, and the failure of
the Kopscum "investigating" the several cases involving him are
glaring examples of their incompetence.

And, as you point out, since Amerikan Kopscum have come to rely

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upon the fabrication of lies as a critical part of their "war on crime",


it is logical that Amerikan Kopscum everywhere would find that the
admission of heresay evidence is a boon to them.

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a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live
peacefully. We are not just whores for power and oil, but killer
whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
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03-18-2009 10:40 AM

liberranter Well said, both Photoman and Night Raven. The admission of
Super Moderator hearsay evidence is a travesty, no matter how much everyone
would love to see Peterson fry for his crimes. Remember the old
maxim (which I'm paraphrasing here): "Never seek to acquire
power for yourself that could fall into the hands of your enemy."

Frankly, I don't think this exceptional rule is necessary.


Eventually, quality detective and forensic work will expose the
truth and Peterson will pay the ultimate price.

I'd also be willing to bet that eventually Peterson's thugscum


buddies in blue who are now covering his back will get tired of
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
all the heat and negative press and will offer him up to the
Posts: 5865 wolves as a sacrificial lamb.

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powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." -
Thomas Jefferson

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"And this brings us to a point that has to be driven home with


the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that

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it values more, it will lose that too.


— W. Somerset Maugham, Strictly Personal (1941)

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03-18-2009 04:28 PM

photoman WORDS TO LIVE BY!


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quote:
Registered: Aug 2006
Location: Under your bed... Originally posted by liberranter
Posts: 875
Remember the old maxim (which I'm
paraphrasing here): "Never seek to acquire power
for yourself that could fall into the hands of your
enemy."

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03-19-2009 12:33 AM

Night Raven Drew Peterson's Son: "Accidents happen all the time"
Senior Member

Drew Peterson's son tells CBS 'Early Show': 'I don't believe
it'

April 24, 2009

BY JOE HOSEY jhosey@scn1.com


Registered: May 2008 Drew Peterson dragged two of his children along with him
Location: for his latest morning show appearance Friday and sat by
Posts: 4812 while one explained his murdered mother's death away,
saying, "

Kristopher, 14, was dressed in a T-shirt and sat in silence


throughout the show on his father's left. His brother,
Thomas, 16, sat on his father's right side. Thomas wore a
black suit, black shirt and white tie, and did all the talking
for the two.

Thomas said he was skeptical of accusations that his father


had something to do with his mother's death.

"I don't know what else to say," he said. "I don't believe it."

Thomas also criticized his mother's sister, Anna Marie


Doman, and her father, Henry J. Savio, for bringing a
wrongful death lawsuit against Drew Peterson earlier this
week.

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"I think it's ridiculous," Thomas said. "They're trying to take


money from my dad and basically give it back to us.

"Do the math," he said.

Thomas also said he had virtually no relationship with his


aunt or grandfather.

"If he was walking down the street I wouldn't recognize


him," he said of his mother's father.

"My aunt, I haven't seen her in six years," Thomas said of


Doman.

Kathleen Savio was found drowned in a dry bathtub in March


2004. She and Peterson were in the midst of a contentious
divorce when she was found dead.

State police found nothing suspicious about Savio's death


and it was ultimately ruled accidental. Authorities
reclassified Savio's death as a homicide after Peterson's next
wife, Stacy Peterson, vanished in March 2004.

State police are investigating both cases and have named


Drew Peterson their sole suspect in Stacy's disappearance, a
matter they have labeled a "potential homicide."

Also appearing on the "Early Show" Friday was John Q.


Kelly, a New York attorney representing Savio's family in the
wrongful death suit. Kelly was disturbed by Peterson taking
his children on the nationally broadcast morning program.

"To see them thrust on television, talking about their


mother's death, is upsetting," Kelly said.

But thrust on television or not, Thomas Peterson was in full


support of his father.

"I want to say he's the greatest dad in the whole world,"

Thomas said. "A lot of people don't know that."

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...-042409.article

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whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
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GC Marciano BREAKING NEWS


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- About freaking time! I have been eagerly anticipating
the arrest of this scumbag for quite some time.

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Drew Peterson Arrested in 3rd Wife's Murder


6:24 PM CDT, Thu, May 7, 2009

Registered: Jul 2003 http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...leen-Savio.html


Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
Police took Drew Peterson into custody around 5:30 p.m.
today in connection with the death of his third wife,
Kathleen Savio.

Savio's brother told NBC Chicago that state police notified him
of Peterson's arrest.

"Right now we are ecstatic, we are just so happy. He's being


arrested for the murder of my sister, Kathleen." Henry Savio
said.

Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow is holding an 8:30


p.m. news conference with state police to announce details of
the murder indictment.

Six police cars were at Peterson's home Thursday evening.


Peterson's children were led out of the home around 6:15 p.m.

Savio's body was found in a dry bathtub in their home in 2004.


Her death was initially ruled an accident, but later classified as a
homicide after a second autopsy was done.

Peterson's fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, disappeared in October

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2007. He has been named a suspect in her disappearance.

Pam Bosco, a friend of Stacy Peterson's family, said she'd


anticipated this arrest for some time, and "we're still a-flutter."

"We've always said we were in full support with the Savio family
and their search to find out what happened to Kathleen, and we
believe that once we have that information it'll also help us with
Stacy's situation, because Kathleen and Stacy had one common
factor, and that was Drew Peterson," Bosco said.

Drew, 55, has been all over the news since his wife
disappeared. In recent months he's gone on morning radio talk
shows about his on-again, off-again girlfriend, 23-year-old
Christina Raines. This week, he was offered a job by the owner
of a brothel, the Moonlite Bunny Ranch, to be part of its HBO
show, Cathouse

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GC Marciano Drew Peterson arrested for Savio murder


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Posted: Thursday, 07 May 2009 6:31PM

http://www.wbbm780.com/Drew-Peterson-arrested/4353940

(BOLINGBROOK) State Police have taken Drew Peterson into


custody after he was indicted today on murder charges.

The arrest happened as Peterson pulled away from his


Bolingbrook home just after 5:30 p.m. He was taken from his
Registered: Jul 2003 car and arrested without incident.
Location: Chicago, Illinois Authorities took Peterson into custody for the murder of his
Posts: 9967 third wife Kathleen Savio, according to police sources.

Savio, 40, was found dead in a dry bathtub in her Bolingbrook

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home in March 2004.

Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow and Illinois State


Police scheduled an 8:30 p.m. press conference in Lockport to
discuss Peterson's indictment.

Peterson wasn’t named a suspect in Savio’s death, but state


police determined Stacy's disappearance is a "potential
homicide" and say Peterson is a suspect in the case.

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Drew Peterson Indicted For Murder


May 7, 2009 6:34 pm US/Central

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.p....2.1004167.html

BOLINGBROOK, Ill. (CBS) ― Former Bolingbrook police


sergeant Drew Peterson has been arrested and indicted for
murder.

Peterson will likely be charged in the death of Kathleen Savio,


who was found dead in a dry bathtub in her home on March 1,
2004. Her death was originally ruled an accident, but was
reclassified as a homicide after her body was exhumed for a
new autopsy, following the disappearance of Peterson's fourth
wife, Stacy Peterson, in October 2007.

In April, Savio's family filed a lawsuit against Peterson asking


for damages in excess of $100,000, and alleging that Peterson
physically assaulted Savio during their marriage, then caused
her death during a prolonged legal dispute over money.

The lawsuit also claimed that before her disappearance, Stacy


Peterson told her pastor she had detailed knowledge that Savio
was murdered and that Drew Peterson was the killer.

While Illinois State Police have described Stacy's disappearance


as a "potential homicide," Drew Peterson has always maintained
that Stacy ran off voluntarily with another man.

In the time since he has been in the spotlight, Peterson has


courted media attention on a regular basis, making several
appearances on network morning news and talk shows and
proclaiming his innocence. In early 2008, Peterson even
planned to appear on a dating game on Steve Dahl's radio
show, although Dahl later canceled the stunt.

Most recently, Peterson was offered a role in the HBO reality


show "Cathouse," which follows the lives of sex workers at the
Moonlite BunnyRanch brothel in Nevada, and features explicit
sex scenes. Besides the "Cathouse" series, BunnyRanch owner
Dennis Hoff said he has proposed hiring Peterson to head the
brothel's security detail.

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BunnyRanch owner Dennis Hoff on Wednesday said Peterson


was invited to spend the upcoming weekend at the brothel to
discuss Hoff's job offers.

Peterson was also cast into the national spotlight this past
winter, when girlfriend Christina Raines moved in with him and
they announced plans to marry, prompting an irate response
from Raines' father. Raines has since moved out of Peterson's
house.

Peterson quit the Bolingbrook Police Department shortly after


Stacy's disappearance.

Until now, his only arrest was for a 2008 gun charge, claiming
that he owned an assault rifle with a barrel shorter than allowed
by state law. The charge was later dismissed.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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GC Marciano Peterson bail set at $20 Million


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Drew Peterson arrested in 3rd wife's death
May 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/05...51351241745381/

BOLINGBROOK, Ill., May 7 (UPI) -- Drew Peterson, a former


Illinois police sergeant, was arrested Thursday in connection
with the death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio, police said.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow told reporters at a
Posts: 9967
news conference Thursday night Peterson has been charged
with two counts of first-degree murder in Savio's death, the

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Chicago Tribune reported. Glasgow said the arrest warrant


provided for Peterson to be held on $20 million bail.

"I requested the $20 million bond because I felt this was as
grave and serious a case as I've ever handled," Glasgow said.

He said a judge also signed a warrant for a search of Peterson's


home.

Peterson, 55, has been the subject of widespread speculation in


the case, in which Savio was found drowned in an empty
bathtub in March 2004 with a gash in her scalp. An autopsy
determined she had drowned and the coroner's office
determined the death was accidental, but the case was
reopened after the October 2007 disappearance of Peterson's
fourth wife, Stacy, who is still missing.

Savio's remains were exhumed and a second autopsy concluded


her death was a homicide.

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, told the newspaper he was


unaware of the arrest early Thursday evening but another
attorney for Peterson, Andrew Abood, issued a statement
saying the former Bolingbrook Police Department sergeant
continues to maintain his innocence in the death of Savio.

"Although he is disappointed with the decision of the state, he


looks forward to the opportunity to once and for all prove his
innocence in a court of law," the statement said.

Representatives of Savio's estate last month filed a wrongful


death lawsuit against Peterson.

Peterson collects a $6,068 monthly pension from the police


department, which suspended him after the disappearance of
Stacy Peterson, the Tribune said.

Three of Peterson's four children have been placed in the


custody of the Illinois Department of Children and Family
Services and police were searching Thursday night for the
fourth child, the newspaper said.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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GC Marciano Drew Peterson's latest mugshot after being arrested for the
Copwatcher Extraordinaire murder of his third wife, Kathleen Savio.

Notice his arrogant, shit-eating grin:

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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GC Marciano Drew Peterson being led into the Will County Detention Center
Copwatcher Extraordinaire in Joliet, IL after being arrested for the murder of wife #3.

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Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Posts: 9967
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind

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of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme


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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
Registered: Jul 2003 officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
Location: Chicago, Illinois officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
Posts: 9967 state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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ednettles41 Like OJ, he sures appear guilty. If he is convicted, I hope he gets


Senior Member the ultimate sentence.

Registered: Feb 2009 You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the
Location: people all of the time.
Posts: 121
I wonder what other crimes he was involved in when he wore the
badge? Each and every one of his cases from day one needs
examining, especially if his testimony sent the accused to prison or
worse.

The Innocence Project should pursue all his cases.

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quote:

Peterson collects a $6,068 monthly pension from


the police department, which suspended him after
the disappearance of Stacy Peterson, the Tribune
said.
Registered: May 2008
Location:
Posts: 4812

It would seem that Peterson's Fat Blue Line Gang would have made
him "Officer of the Year" by now. After all, he is a sterling example
of the perfect copskum: narcissistic, self-centered, self-serving,
devoid of any moral compass, greedy, sneaky, manipulative,
violent, and, of course is a murderous, lying psychotic. What's more
to want?

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"We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the whole world --
a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live
peacefully. We are not just whores for power and oil, but killer
whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
--Dr. Hunter S. Thompson, Kingdom of Fear (2003)

"Society had a crime problem, so it hired cops. Next thing society


knew, it had a cop problem."
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GC Marciano Drew Peterson Laughed on Way to Court for Wife's


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Murder
Peterson Calls His Shackles 'Bling'
May 8, 2009

http://abcnews.go.com/US/LawPolitic...=7535528&page=1

Drew Peterson joked with reporters today as he was being led


into court in shackles to face allegations that he drowned his
third wife five years ago.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois The Illinois ex-cop is indicted in the death of his third wife,
Posts: 9967 Kathleen Savio.

Peterson, 55, has been charged with first-degree murder in


connection with the death of Kathleen Savio, whose body was
found in her bathtub in 2004 with a gash in her head.

Asked if he was looking forward to his day in court, Peterson,


handcuffed and wearing a red jumpsuit, said, "What about this
bling? Look at this bling. Three squares a day in this spiffy
outfit. How can you beat that? Look at this bling. My God. "

A judge postponed Peterson's arraignment until May 18 because


neither of Peterson's attorneys were in court today, the
Associated Press reported. Peterson didn't speak in court except
to tell the judge he understood the continuance.

Peterson, an ex-cop, became a target of police scrutiny after


the disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson. He was
arrested yesterday after a lengthy police investigation. He is
being held in the Will County, Ill., jail on $20 million bond.

The indictment's legal language accuses Peterson of drowning


Savio, saying that he forced her to "inhale fluid" and that he did
it "with the intent to kill Kathleen Savio."

Savio's sister, Susan Doman, said the world is finally a "safe


place for me" now that Peterson has been arrested.

Peterson is also a suspect in the 2007 disappearance of fourth


wife Stacy Peterson, and Peterson's friends and family said
today that the arrest is bittersweet.

"It's a very hollow victory right now not knowing where Stacy
is," said Sharon Bychowski, a friend of Stacy Peterson who lives
next door to Drew Peterson. "We still have a ways to go. It
wasn't quite the victory I thought it would be."

The investigation into Stacy Peterson's disappearance is


continuing and Pam Bosco, a friend and family spokesman, said
the family "understands that it's ongoing and we just have to be
patient with it."

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Peterson was arrested Thursday afternoon. Well known for his


wisecracks and blase attitude, Peterson reportedly said as he
was being led to jail, "I guess I should have returned those
library books."

"He's an idiot," Susan Doman, Savio's sister, said today on


"Good Morning America," dismayed that Peterson would make
jokes after he was arrested for his wife's murder.

Lawyer: Peterson Takes Charges Seriously

Peterson has maintained his innocence to anyone who would


listen both in Savio's death and Stacy Peterson's disappearance.
At times he's even seemed to revel in the spotlight.

"Drew takes these charges very seriously," his lawyer Joel


Brodsky told "Good Morning America." Those jokes, he said, are
his way of dealing with stress. "That's just his nature."

Doman said the family hopes the arrest is the first step in
justice for her sister. Peterson was arrested shortly before he
was scheduled to fly to Reno to interview for a security job at a
brothel featured on a cable television show.

"It was a big relief because he wasn't going on all these shows,
going around joking and laughing," Doman said.

Prosecutors plan to enter into evidence letters from Savio that


reveal her fear of what her husband might do. A new law in
Illinois, which Peterson's lawyer is planning to fight, would allow
such evidence to be used.

"Obviously we have problems with that law," Brodsky told


"GMA." "And we're going to challenge the law."

Peterson, 55, was being held at the Will County Adult Detention
Facility in Joliet, Ill., with bond set at $20 million, and could face
60 years in jail, Will County State's Attorney James W. Glasgow
said.

"This is a grave and serious matter, and I think that's reflected


in the bond," Glasgow told reporters.

"We are very confident in our case," he added.

Brodsky has called the $20 million bond "excessive" and said he
hoped to get it reduced. Another attorney told The Associated
Press that Peterson had an alibi for Savio's death.

Savio, 40, was found face-down in an empty bathtub in March


2004, her hair soaked with blood from an apparent head wound.

The death initially was ruled an accident, but was reclassified a


homicide in 2008 after her body was exhumed and given a new
autopsy following Stacy Peterson's October 2007 disappearance.

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That autopsy determined Savio had drowned, Illinois State


Police Capt. Carl Dobrich said.

The indictment handed down by a grand jury Thursday morning


accused Peterson of "two counts of first-degree murder, one on
the theory of intentional killing, the second [for] knowingly
doing an act that can cause great bodily harm," said Glasgow,
whose office will prosecute the case.

Peterson was arrested "without incident" in a traffic stop by a


uniformed state trooper and plainclothes officers near his home
in Bolingbrook, Ill., Dobrich said. He added that Peterson's four
children were in the process of being removed to government
care.

Peterson's 'Lock-Tight Alibi'

Andrew Abood, an attorney for Peterson, told The Associated


Press the indictment was not a surprise because "there was
tremendous pressure for the government to do something in
this case."

He added Peterson had a "lock-tight alibi" because Peterson and


Savio's teenage son said last month in a television interview
that he was with his father at the time of his mother's death.

"I highly do not believe that my dad had murdered my mom,"


Thomas Peterson, 16, told CBS' "The Early Show." "Because,
first off, he wasn't there. He was with us during that period of
time."

Peterson, a former duty sergeant for the Bolingbrook Police


Department, was the first officer to respond to the scene of
Savio's death. His nearly-three-decade career in law
enforcement ended when he stepped down after Stacy Peterson
disappeared.

Brodsky said he had not spoken with his client as of late


Thursday night, but expected to speak with him Friday.

Savio Sis Hopes Peterson's 'Eating Oatmeal' in Jail

Doman told ABC News she hated watching Drew Peterson


walking around freely and seemingly basking in the media
limelight in the year and a half since Stacy Peterson vanished,
an event that inflamed her own family's suspicions about
Peterson regarding her sister's death.

Doman added that she hoped now "he's eating oatmeal" in jail.

She knew Peterson's arrest was coming because she had been
working with authorities, and she hoped justice would finally be
done.

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May 13 would have been Kathleen Savio's 46th birthday, her


sister noted. Every year, she said, family members visit her
grave and relive the pain of her death. This year, she added,
there will be some relief.

Kathleen Savio's brother Nick was clearly pleased with the


arrest.

"This is step one. Step two would be a conviction so my sister


can rest in peace," Nick Savio told "GMA."

Savio's divorce from Peterson was nearly complete at the time


of her death. She had received an order of protection in 2002
against Peterson, alleging a pattern of physical abuse and
threats.

Doman said she wants to encourage battered women to get out


of bad relationships, claiming Drew Peterson battered her sister.

"No matter how strong you are, get out," she said she would
tell other abused women.

A lawyer for the Savio family, Martin Glink, told ABCNews.com


the family is "very grateful and relieved that at long last he
[Drew Peterson] is going to be charged.

"We're hoping that Mr. Peterson will get a measure of justice,"


Glink added. "We're looking to have the right thing done and
that obviously points to Drew Peterson."

Mystery Surrounding Stacy Peterson's Disappearance

Stacy Peterson, then 23, vanished Oct. 28, 2007, after


reportedly telling her minister that Peterson had confessed to
killing Savio.

Earlier this year, a grand jury was convened to decide whether


to indict Drew Peterson for Stacy Peterson's disappearance, but
it has not done so. Like Savio, Stacy Peterson told family and
friends that she feared her husband.

Drew Peterson has maintained that Stacy Peterson ran away


with another man.

In November 2007, when the state announced it wanted to


reopen Savio's case, Peterson told ABC News that he would put
more investigative stock in the first determination that Savio's
death was an accident.

"I put more faith in the first autopsy because it was fresh," he
said at the time.

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GC Marciano My favorite photo of scumbag pig Drew Peterson as he is


Copwatcher Extraordinaire being led from a Will County jail transport van by two morbidly
obese jail deputies:

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GC Marciano Drew Peterson's arraignment pushed to May 18


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By SOPHIA TAREEN – 12 minutes ago

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...c8VsKQD982A7680

JOLIET, Ill. (AP) — Drew Peterson, the former police sergeant


who hasn't hesitated to crack a joke or pose for the camera
since his fourth wife's disappearance more than 18 months ago,
was told Friday he will have to wait more than a week to answer
allegations he drowned his third wife in a bath tub. But he
Registered: Jul 2003 remained flippant.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Sheriff's deputies escorted Peterson into the Will County
courthouse a day after he was arrested and charged with first-
degree murder in the 2004 drowning death of Kathleen Savio.
The ex-cop wore a red jumpsuit, was handcuffed and had
shackles around his legs.

"Three squares a day and this spiffy outfit, look at all this
bling," Peterson, who is being held on $20 million bond, quipped
as he walked by reporters.

Inside, Will County Judge Richard Schoenstedt continued


Peterson's scheduled arraignment to May 18 because neither of
Peterson's attorneys could attend Friday's hearing. Peterson
didn't speak in court except to tell the judge he understood the
continuance.

Peterson, 55, also is a suspect in the 2007 disappearance of his


fourth wife, Stacy. He's denied wrongdoing.

Savio's body was found with her hair soaked in blood from a
head wound, just before the couple's divorce settlement was
finalized. Her death originally was ruled an accidental drowning
but authorities later said it was a homicide staged to look like
an accident.

The indictment alleges that "Peterson on or about Feb. 29,


2004 ... caused Kathleen Savio to inhale fluid," causing her
death.

Savio's family has long voiced suspicions, saying she feared


Peterson and told relatives if she died it would not be an
accident. Their fears resurfaced after the October 2007
disappearance of Stacy Peterson, then 23.

Drew Peterson is a suspect in her disappearance, which police


have called a possible homicide. But he has not been charged
and has repeatedly said he thinks Stacy Peterson ran off with
another man.

Despite his flip comments, "Drew takes these charges very


seriously," defense lawyer Joel Brodsky said Friday in an
interview on ABC's Good Morning America. Brodsky said

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"wisecracks and comedy" are just Peterson's way of dealing


with stress.

Glasgow said Thursday that the case against Peterson


would include evidence that might previously have been
inadmissible. Last year state lawmakers passed
legislation that allows a judge to admit hearsay evidence
in first-degree murder cases if prosecutors can prove the
defendant killed a witness to prevent them from
testifying.

"In essence what you're basically allowing the victim of a violent


crime to do is testify from the grave," Glasgow said.

Savio filed an order of protection against Peterson in 2002 and


in it she wrote that she feared Peterson could kill her.

"He wants me dead and if he has to he will burn the house


down just to shut me up," she wrote.

In an interview on Chicago's WGN-TV Friday morning, Brodsky


said he will argue that prosecutors cannot use Savio's
statements about Peterson.

"It's going to have to face a constitutional challenge," he


said. "We're now involving rumor and innuendo and
unreliable evidence in a homicide case."

Brodsky questioned whether Savio's death was really a


homicide and said Peterson's $20 million bail is unreasonable.

Peterson has seemed to relish the spotlight since Stacy


Peterson's disappearance, appearing in a People magazine
cover story and on multiple national talk shows — most recently
to tout his new engagement to a 24-year-old woman.

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informed that his arraignment would be continued to May 18:

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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by GC505

My favorite photo of scumbag pig Drew


Peterson as he is being led from a Will County
jail transport van by two morbidly obese jail
deputies:

Registered: Jun 2005


Drew has obviously been "off the beat" for a while, as
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 evidenced by a full, if greying set of hair on his head. Contrast
this to the standard-issue "dick-with-ears" look of the two
morbidly obese porktards in the photo.

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powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." -
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the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
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Puddles It's really sad that it took Stacy's disappearance for Kathleen's
Junior Member family to get justice. Kathleen's abuse was documented yet not one
person had the guts to help her.

I hope Drew remains behind bars for the rest of his miserable
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quote:

Originally posted by GC505

My favorite photo of scumbag *** Drew Peterson


as he is being led from a Will County jail transport
van by two morbidly obese jail deputies:
Registered: May 2008
Location:
Posts: 4812

Deputies "Tweedle-Dumb" and "Tweedle-Dweeb"

A deputy's letter home: "Dear Mom, Life is good. There are many
donuts here in Will County...."

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whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
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05-10-2009 12:33 PM

GC Marciano Drew Peterson case: Attorney Joel Brodsky wants lower


Copwatcher Extraordinaire bond, quieter client
Former Bolingbrook cop is charged with Kathleen Savio's murder
By Tara Malone | Tribune reporter
May 11, 2009

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,6426012.story

Fresh from a media blitz in New York, Drew Peterson's attorney


said Sunday that he will push to reduce the $20 million bail set
Registered: Jul 2003 for the former Bolingbrook police sergeant accused of
Location: Chicago, Illinois murdering his third wife, and he may look to move the trial out
Posts: 9967
of Will County.

Attorney Joel Brodsky said he will file a motion to request a


"more reasonable" bail of an estimated $500,000 before
Peterson's next court appearance on May 18. If it is reduced,
Brodsky said Peterson, 55, could post the necessary bail to be
released.

Speaking to reporters at O'Hare International Airport, Brodsky


said he would request a bail amount commensurate with those
set in Will County criminal cases during the last decade.

"We want to see Drew is given the same bond as anybody


would be given," Brodsky said. "If Drew was going to run, he
had ample opportunity in the last 18 months to do that. He
didn't run. He's not going to run."

And while Brodsky said the first step is to get Peterson out of
jail, he also said his legal team is weighing the pros and cons of
moving the high-profile case.

"Elsewhere in the country ... people have less strong opinions


about Drew," he said.

Peterson was arrested last week on charges he killed his third


wife, Kathleen Savio, 40. She was found dead in an empty
bathtub with a 1-inch gash on the back of her scalp in March
2004. Her death, initially ruled an accident, was reinvestigated
after Peterson's then-23-year-old fourth wife, Stacy,
disappeared in October 2007.

Savio and Peterson had been divorced, but details of the


settlement were weeks away from being made final when she
died.

Brodsky visited the Will County Jail later Sunday to speak with
Peterson, who is segregated from the general jail population.
The attorney had said earlier that they would discuss Peterson's
comments about his "spiffy" jail outfit and the "bling" of his

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restraints.

"I certainly believe his comments don't help defuse the


situation, and I've discussed that with Drew. ... But Drew is an
innocent man. This is who he is, and he's not going to change
the way he is," Brodsky said.

Peterson has not been charged in the disappearance of Stacy


Peterson.

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liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Brodsky visited the Will County Jail later
Sunday to speak with Peterson, who is
segregated from the general jail population.
The attorney had said earlier that they would
discuss Peterson's comments about his
"spiffy" jail outfit and the "bling" of his
restraints.

"I certainly believe his comments don't help


defuse the situation, and I've discussed that
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
with Drew. ... But Drew is an innocent man.
Posts: 5865 This is who he is, and he's not going to change
the way he is," Brodsky said.

That's the one silver lining in this whole sordid case: Drew
Peterson's pea brain and loud mouth are going to be the rope
that hangs him.

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"Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated
powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." -
Thomas Jefferson

"Oink If You Hate Freedom"

"And this brings us to a point that has to be driven home with


the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
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GC Marciano Building a Case Against Drew Peterson


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Dislike for Drew Peterson Is One Thing, but is There Enough
Evidence Against Him?
By SARAH NETTER, SCOTT MICHELS and ANDREA BEAUMONT
May 11, 2009

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/LawPol...=7554507&page=1

As Drew Peterson sits in jail on murder charges for his third


wife's death, his stepbrother could prove key to the
Registered: Jul 2003 prosecution's case that he also killed his still-missing fourth
Location: Chicago, Illinois wife, Stacy Peterson.
Posts: 9967
Drew Peterson is being held now only for the 2004 murder of
Kathleen Savio, whose death the medical examiner had initially
ruled a drowning accident. But a grand jury is still hearing
evidence that alleges Peterson's involvement in Stacy
Peterson's death.

Included in that evidence are statements from Thomas Morphey


that he helped his stepbrother move a large blue barrel from
Peterson's home on the last day Stacy Peterson was seen alive.

The day before he helped move the barrel, Morphey said


Peterson confronted him. "He said, 'How much do you love
me?'" Morphey told "Good Morning America" in March. "I said, 'I
do.' And he said, 'Enough to kill for me?'"

Neither Stacy Peterson nor her body have ever been found, nor
has the mysterious blue barrel.

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While the allegations against Peterson and his seemingly blase


attitude toward the fate of his two wives have made him an
unpopular media figure, prosecutors face the burden of
convincing a jury he's guilty using evidence that's reportedly
circumstantial at this point.

Prosectors are hoping they can enter into evidence writings


from Savio when she was in the midst of her divorce from
Peterson, that she feared her husband's "next step is to take
my children away or kill me."

Prosecutors are banking on a new Illinois state law that would


essentially allow Savio's words to be heard from the grave. But
the law allows such statements only if the witness was killed to
prevent him or her from testifying.

"These statements are not subject to cross examination," legal


analyst Dana Cole told "Good Morning America," "and under
current U.S. Supreme Court rulings if a statement is not subject
to cross examination it's hearsay and may be inadmissible."

Peterson's lawyer, Joel Brodsky, has said he'll challenge the law
as unconstitutional.

Brodsky has called the $20 million bond "excessive" and said he
hoped to get it reduced. Another attorney told The Associated
Press that Peterson had an alibi for Savio's death.

The defense also plans to play up the results of Savio's first


autopsy that ruled her death in the bathtub an accidental
drowning. The second autopsy, done after Stacy Peterson
disappeared in 2007, ruled Savio's death a homicide.

If a murder indictment is handed down in Stacy Peterson's


death, experts said it could vastly change the case against Drew
Peterson.

"Then I think the prosecution will combine both cases, and each
case will sort of feed off the other and will present a powerful
picture to both a trial judge and a jury that this guy is a serial
murderer," Cole said.

Another Day in Court, More Jokes from Peterson

Despite the prosection's effort to portray him as a cold,


calculating killer, Peterson maintained an eye-brow raising
sense of humor as he was led into court last week.

Asked if he was looking forward to his day in court, Peterson,


handcuffed and wearing a red jumpsuit, joked with reporters,
saying, "What about this bling? Look at this bling. Three
squares a day in this spiffy outfit. How can you beat that? Look
at this bling. My God."

Even when he was first arrested Thursday, he joked, "I guess I

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should have returned those library books."

"He's an idiot," Susan Doman, Savio's sister, said today on


"Good Morning America," dismayed that Peterson would make
jokes after he was arrested for his wife's murder.

A judge postponed Peterson's arraignment until May 18 because


neither of Peterson's attorneys were in court today, The
Associated Press reported. Peterson didn't speak in court except
to tell the judge he understood the continuance. He's being held
on $20 million bond.

The indictment's legal language accuses Peterson of drowning


Savio, saying that he forced her to "inhale fluid" and that he did
it "with the intent to kill Kathleen Savio."

Savio's sister, Susan Doman, said the world is finally a "safe


place for me" now that Peterson has been arrested.

Stacy Peterson's friends and family said last week that her
husband's arrest is bittersweet.

"It's a very hollow victory right now not knowing where Stacy
is," said Sharon Bychowski, a friend of Stacy Peterson who lives
next door to Drew Peterson. "We still have a ways to go. It
wasn't quite the victory I thought it would be."

Pam Bosco, a friend and family spokesman, said the family


"understands that it's ongoing and we just have to be patient
with it."

Lawyer: Peterson Takes Charges Seriously

Peterson has maintained his innocence to anyone who would


listen both in Savio's death and Stacy Peterson's disappearance.
At times he's even seemed to revel in the spotlight.

"Drew takes these charges very seriously," his lawyer Joel


Brodsky told "Good Morning America." Those jokes, he said, are
his way of dealing with stress. "That's just his nature."

Doman said the family hopes the arrest is the first step in
justice for her sister. Peterson was arrested shortly before he
was scheduled to fly to Reno to interview for a security job at a
brothel featured on a cable television show.

"It was a big relief because he wasn't going on all these shows,
going around joking and laughing," Doman said.

Andrew Abood, an attorney for Peterson, told The Associated


Press the indictment was not a surprise because "there was
tremendous pressure for the government to do something in
this case."

He added Peterson had a "lock-tight alibi" because Peterson and

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Savio's teenage son said last month in a television interview


that he was with his father at the time of his mother's death.

"I highly do not believe that my dad had murdered my mom,"


Thomas Peterson, 16, told CBS' "The Early Show." "Because,
first off, he wasn't there. He was with us during that period of
time."

Peterson, a former duty sergeant for the Bolingbrook Police


Department, was the first officer to respond to the scene of
Savio's death. His nearly-three-decade career in law
enforcement ended when he stepped down after Stacy Peterson
disappeared.

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
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GC Marciano [NOTE: The following article was published on 03/10/09,


Copwatcher Extraordinaire before the indictment and arrest of Drew Peterson.]

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Peterson's stepbrother finally tells his story


A summary of what Morphey told police about weekend of
Stacy's disappearance
March 10, 2009
Registered: Jul 2003 By JOE HOSEY jhosey@scn1.com
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/...o030909.article

Believing Stacy Peterson was in the blue barrel he helped his


stepbrother haul to a waiting get-away car, Thomas Morphey
said he tried to kill himself by swallowing bottles of anti-
depressant and anti-anxiety pills.

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Morphey survived the attempt but does not know if this makes
him lucky.

Instead of death, he now endures each day in a living hell, he


says, courtesy of his stepbrother, Drew Peterson.

“It kills me,” said Morphey, who broke a near 17-month silence
to speak out last week. “There’s not a day that goes by that I
don’t wish I could take back the events of that day.”

Morphey is talking about Oct. 28, 2007. That’s when Drew


Peterson, he said, came out of the master bedroom in his home
pushing a blue barrel and asked Morphey for a hand in carrying
the barrel downstairs.

“I asked him, ‘Shouldn’t we have gloves on?’ He said, ‘No, don’t


worry about it,” then hushed Morphey to be quiet.

“That leads me to believe the kids were home, in their rooms,”


Morphey said.

Peterson and Stacy, his fourth wife, have two children who lived
with them in their Bolingbrook home. Peterson and his third
wife, Kathleen Savio, had another two children together who
also lived with Peterson and Stacy after Savio was found
drowned in a dry bathtub in March 2004.

State police are still investigating the Savio homicide, just as


they are probing the October 2007 disappearance of Stacy, a
case they consider a “potential homicide.” Morphey said he is
quite certain there is nothing “potential” about Stacy being the
victim of a homicide. And what he has to say about it led
State’s Attorney James Glasgow to offer an immunity deal three
days after Stacy was last seen alive.

Morphey got the deal while recovering from an overdose of Paxil


and Xanax at Linden Oaks Hospital on Halloween 2007.
However, Morphey has yet to deliver it in a courtroom. No
arrests have been made in connection with Stacy’s
disappearance, and Morphey has not even been called before
the grand jury reviewing the cases of both Peterson’s last two
wives.

The near year and a half that has passed since he first told
police and prosecutors his story has spurred him to question
what progress has been made in the case, and to speak out
publicly about the last time he was in his stepbrother’s house.

Murder plot?

Morphey said the day before the blue barrel incident, Peterson
showed up at his home, ostensibly to take him to a nearby
Meijer store, where Peterson, the overnight sergeant for the
Bolingbrook Police Department, had supposedly lined up a job

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interview for Morphey.

But Peterson and Morphey never made it to Meijer. Instead,


Morphey said, Peterson drove him to a park off Remington
Boulevard.

“We went to that park to discuss Stacy cheating on him, and he


had to take care of the problem,” Morphey said.

He assumed Peterson planned to murder someone but that his


target was Stacy’s supposed boyfriend.

“I didn’t think for a minute he was going to try to kill her,” he


said. Then Peterson started asking strange questions.

“How much do you love me?” Morphey said Peterson asked him,
and Morphey answered that he did love him, a lot.

Peterson then asked, “Enough to kill for me?” “No, I couldn’t


live with myself,” Morphey said.

Peterson pressed on, asking, “Could you live with knowing


about it?”

Morphey replied, “Yeah, I guess. We always figured you killed


Kathleen.”

Morphey said Peterson then drove him to a storage facility and


asked him to rent a unit, using his own name. Morphey had not
brought along his required state identification. Peterson, fearing
that leaving to get it and then returning would attract undue
attention, dropped Morphey at home, Morphey said.

A few hours later, Morphey said, he called Peterson and told


him this was something he couldn’t get involved with. Peterson,
he said, replied, “OK, I can respect that.”

Morphey said he feared a life was at stake, but did not know
where to turn because Peterson was a police officer. “It’s just
something I have to live with,” Morphey said. “I grew up
Catholic. I believe if you take another life, you go to hell.”

Morphey and Peterson forged a relationship in the mid 90s,


after the marriage of Morphey’s father and Peterson’s mother.
After Morphey’s own marraige broke down, he moved in with a
sister in Bolingbrook. That’s when he got to know Drew
Peterson.

“My son’s a cop there,” Morphey recalled his new stepmother


telling him. “He’ll take care of you.”

Since Stacy’s disappearance and the revelation that police


believe Morphey helped Peterson dispose of her body, Peterson
has repeatedly disparaged his stepbrother.

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Told of the interview with Morphey, Peterson said Monday, “He’s


lying. He’s hallucinating.” Just last week, Peterson’s attorney,
Joel Brodsky issued a statement in which he said Morphey “has
a documented history of severe mental illness, drug and alcohol
addiction.”

Morphey concedes he has been diagnosed as manic-depressive,


was arrested twice for driving under the influence, and did a
stint in rehab in the wake of his mother’s death.

Since then, he said, he has straightened out his life. He has


lived with the same woman, Sheryl Alcox, and her three sons,
11-year-old twins and an 18-year-old, for almost nine years.
The three young men excel academically, and Morphey¹s life
would be back together, he believes, if his stepbrother had not
come calling the weekend of Oct. 27, 2007.

Cell phone calls

The night after their trip to the park on Remington, and then
the storage facility, Morphey said Peterson showed up again.
Morphey admits he’d been drinking beer, but claims to have a
clear recollection of what transpired.

“He just started driving,” Morphey said. The two men got coffee
at a Starbucks drive-through before heading to a park off
Weber Road. There, Morphey said, Peterson handed him a cell
phone, told him not to answer it, then left.

Morphey said he paced back and forth in the dark, wondering,


“Is he killing someone?” About 45 minutes later the phone rang.
Then it rang again. Both times, the caller ID showed “Stacy’s
cell,” he said. It was then he “got a pretty good idea” that
Peterson was not scheming to do in anybody’s boyfriend.

“Really, all I could think when I saw “Stacy” on the phone was
he was killing her while I was standing there,” he said.

Peterson returned to the park within an hour of the phone calls,


Morphey said, and Drew insisted he help him “at the house
moving something.” They went inside the Peterson house, and
Morphey noticed all of the children’s bedroom doors were
closed. They took the barrel “right out the front door” to
Peterson’s Yukon Denali, which was parked in the driveway,
Morphey said. Part of a thick plastic bag was protruding from
the lid of the barrel, he said.

After loading the barrel, Morphey said, Peterson dropped him


off at his home and told him, “This never happened.”

“I said, ‘Don’t worry. I won’t say a word.”

But it did not take Morphey long to talk. Frantic, he left his
house and went up the street to see his friend Walter Martineck.

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He told Martineck everything and stayed at Martineck’s until


Alcox called and told him to come home.

Morphey spent the next day at the hospital with Alcox. He


spoke on the phone with Peterson, he said, telling him he
wanted to hang himself. Peterson, he said, told him not to
worry.

When he got home that night, Morphey started drinking again.


He spoke on the phone with one of his brothers. He had told the
brother some of the details from the past weekend, and the
brother told him he called the FBI about it.

Morphey said he hung up on his brother, ate two bottles of pills,


and got in bed. He says he tried to kill himself to keep his
girlfriend and her sons safe from Peterson. But Morphey’s
brother called 911, and soon emergency responders were
banging on the door.

Peterson visits

On that Tuesday morning, after returning from Edward Hospital


in Naperville, Alcox said Peterson showed up at their door, not
long after she saw a story on the TV news about Stacy’s
disappearance.

She told Peterson about Morphey’s suicide attempt. He offered


his help but said nothing about his wife’s disappearance, she
said.

Martineck then arrived and drove Alcox to District 5 State Police


Headquarters in Crest Hill. Soon after, troopers headed to the
hospital in Naperville. But before they got there, Peterson paid
his stepbrother a visit, one Morphey remembers only through
the haze of medication. Martineck said the state cops just
missed him.

Getting immunity

The next day, Morphey got his offer of immunity. Glasgow


showed up himself to grant it. He had a couple state troopers
with him, and they talked to Morphey in a coffee room.

“It was the first of many interrogations,” Morphey said. “They


went easy on me there.” But the grilling got tougher, he said,
with police accusing him of killing Stacy. Morphey figures he
underwent about 40 hours of interrogation that included threats
to pull his immunity.

Morphey said he spent about five months away from his family
for his own protection. The state police first put him and Alcox
up in a motel about two hours from his home. Alcox returned
after a long weekend.

“I was put at various locations,” he said. “I didn’t know where

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I’d be staying from one night to the other.” In December, the


state police found a permanent location for Morphey out of
state, but by “February or March, I just decided enough was
enough,” he said.

Police, he said, reluctantly agreed to let him return home.

Holding pattern

That was a year ago. And Morphey has yet to speak a word to
the ongoing grand jury convened to hear evidence about
Stacy¹s disappearance and Savio’s death.

“All contact’s pretty much been broken,” he said. And Morphey


feels “betrayed.”

Charles B. Pelkie, spokesman for the state¹s attorney¹s office,


said he was precluded from discussing Morphey’s story. “I can’t
comment on any aspect of a pending investigation,” he said.

The state police have told Morphey to keep his mouth shut,
Morphey said. But he wants to know what the police are waiting
for. “I just feel like the truth needs to be told at some point,” he
said. “...I don't know if I’ll get my day in court.”

Morphey doesn’t know if Peterson will have his day in court,


either.

“I know what I know,” he said. “Drew knows what I know.”

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Super Moderator well have a small army of his fellow scumbags-in-blue ready to
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GC Marciano Drew Peterson arrest: What happens to the kids?


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By DON BABWIN – 1 hour ago

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...c8VsKQD984A9IO1

CHICAGO (AP) — Drew Peterson, charged in the death of his


third wife and suspected in the disappearance of his fourth,
soon might face another legal battle: a custody fight.

The ex-cop had two children with Kathleen Savio, whom he's
Registered: Jul 2003 accused of killing, and another two with Stacy Peterson, who
Location: Chicago, Illinois has been missing since 2007. Drew Peterson's adult son
Posts: 9967 Stephen announced Monday that he has taken custody of the
children, but relatives of Savio and Stacy Peterson are looking
into whether they can change that.

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"We'd seen a lawyer a ways back and were told we'd have to
wait until he was charged," said Pamela Bosco, a friend of Stacy
Peterson who has acted as a spokeswoman for her family. "We
have to go back to a lawyer and see what's available to us."

"It's an issue that's moved to the front burner," said Martin


Glink, an attorney representing Savio's father and sister, who
filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Peterson shortly before
his arrest last week. He added, however, that he hasn't talked
about the issue with his clients or anyone else in the Savio
family.

Peterson, 55, is being held in lieu of $20 million bond as he


awaits a hearing next week on first-degree murder charges in
the 2004 death of Savio, who was found drowned in a dry
bathtub, a gash to the back of her head.

He has two boys, ages 16 and 14, with Savio and a 5-year-old
boy and 4-year-old girl with Stacy Peterson. Peterson has long
maintained his innocence in Savio's death and Stacy Peterson's
disappearance.

Stephen Peterson, Drew Peterson's son from a previous


marriage, issued a statement Monday on behalf of his siblings,
noting that they are staying with him.

"All of the children of Drew Peterson fully support their father


and know that he is innocent of the charges against him. We
know him better than anyone else in the world and we know he
is not guilty," Stephen Peterson said.

Drew Peterson wanted his children to stay with his adult son,
said Reem Odeh, the law partner of Joel Brodsky, Peterson's
attorney, who has worked on Peterson's behalf.

After Peterson's arrest, the state's Department of Children and


Family Services turned his children over to "relatives" they
would not identify. The child welfare agency also investigated
Stephen Peterson's home, Odeh said.

Chicago attorney Matthew Kirsh said the current custody


arrangement may be hard to challenge.

"A parent whose rights have not been terminated has the right
to designate a guardian in writing," Kirsh said.

After the Savio family filed the wrongful death lawsuit, Peterson
appeared beside his teenage sons on CBS's "Early Show,"
during which the older boy defended his father and
characterized his grandfather and aunt as virtual strangers.

"I don't remember meeting him," 16-year-old Thomas Peterson


said of Henry Savio. "If he was walking down the street I
wouldn't recognize him. And my aunt, I haven't seen in six

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years."

Jennifer Smetters, a family law attorney in Chicago who is not


involved with the case, said if she represented a relative of
either mother, she would advise seeking guardianship of all four
children.

"The court needs to place the children in the home that would
serve their best interests," Smetters said. "I would advise them
to prepare their home to take all of the children. It's very
important that these children don't go through any more
upheaval."

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GC Marciano Drew Peterson: I’ll ‘probably be found innocent’


Copwatcher Extraordinaire In jailhouse interview, accused killer criticizes grand jury that
indicted him
By Mike Celizic
TODAYShow.com contributor
updated 8:40 a.m. CT, Fri., May 15, 2009

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30759276/

In a phone interview from the Will County Jail in Joliet, Ill.,


Registered: Jul 2003 recorded Thursday and broadcast Friday, Drew Peterson told
Location: Chicago, Illinois TODAY’s Matt Lauer that he’ll “probably be found innocent” of
Posts: 9967
the 2004 murder of his third wife, Kathleen Savio. The 55-year-
old former Bolingbrook, Ill., police sergeant was also harshly
critical of the grand jury system that indicted him.

Police have been investigating both Savio’s death and Stacey


Peterson’s disappearance for some 18 months. Lauer asked
Peterson if he had any thoughts on why he the indictment was

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handed down when it was.

“I believe that was the last day of the grand jury and I believe
they had to do something. The state's attorney, I believe, was
under a lot of pressure from both the media and the Savio
family to do something,” he replied.

Flip with quips


“Do you have idea what the state's evidence is against you?”
Lauer asked.

“No idea. And the grand jury system seriously needs to be


revised,” he replied. “I truly believe that if they wanted to they
could have indicted you for this incident. What you have is a
bunch of lay people that are in there and they have been sitting
there for 18 months, and they are uneducated on the points of
law, rules of evidence and things like that.”

Lauer asked Peterson if he has any evidence to prove his


innocence.

“There’s all kinds of evidence available. We’ll get discovery and


we’ll basically piece-by-piece take apart their case,” Peterson
replied, adding that he could not elaborate on what that
evidence is.

Peterson was arrested after a traffic stop on May 7 after being


indicted at the end of the local grand jury’s 18-month term. He
is being held on $20 million bail, a sum that his attorney, Joel
Brodsky, has called exorbitant and is trying to get reduced.

Peterson told Lauer he expected that he would be arrested


when he was.

“I wasn't really that surprised. The news crews were outside


which indicated to me that they were getting ready for
something,” he said. “So I was trying to get to the bank to
make a deposit so my family would have some money in the
bank account. And all of a sudden I was swooped down on.”

After his arrest, Peterson quipped to reporters, “I guess I should


have returned those library books.” Later, while being
transferred in handcuffs and his orange jail clothes, he asked
reporters what he thought of his “bling” and his “spiffy” clothes.

In an appearance on TODAY after Peterson’s arrest, Brodsky


had explained Peterson’s flippant remarks as his wisecracking
way of dealing with stress. Lauer asked Peterson, “Do you
understand how it can tend to make you a very unsympathetic
character in the eyes of the public?”

“Well, there is no book written on how I'm supposed to act,”


Peterson replied. “Would it be better if I hid my head down and
tried to hide my face and hunched over and tears in my eyes? I

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mean, no, that's just not me.”

True or false?
Savio was found dead in her dry bathtub shortly after she and
Peterson divorced. She had a cut on the back of her head, and
the death was ruled an accidental drowning after she slipped
and hit her head on the tub.

But after Stacey Peterson disappeared, authorities exhumed her


body and conducted another autopsy, which concluded that she
had been murdered. Peterson took a polygraph examination for
a book, “"Drew Peterson Exposed,” by Derek Armstrong, which
confirmed his contention that he had nothing to do with Savio’s
death. Some of his answers relating to Stacey Peterson were
deemed to be untruthful, but on the key questions of whether
he harmed either wife, his denials withstood the lie detector.
The reliability of polygraph tests is debated and their results are
not admissible as evidence in criminal trials.

Lauer asked Peterson about the mixed results of the test.

Speaking hesitantly, Peterson said, “All of the questions about


Kathleen I passed with no question.” As for the questions about
Stacey Peterson, he said, “Did I remove her from the house, or
did I hurt her in any way? I passed those in my answer that I
did not.”

Savio had told others that she feared Peterson would kill her.
Normally, those people would not be allowed to testify to that
hearsay evidence in court, but the Illinois legislature recently
passed a law that would allow the evidence to be admitted at
the trial. Constitutional scholars have questioned whether the
law will stand up to review, and Peterson told Lauer that he has
information that the legislature may be having misgivings about
the law.

Lauer asked, “Have you given consideration, Drew, to the


possibility that you may never be free again; that you may be
held until trial and found guilty at trial?”

“Right,” he replied, adding, “I'm also thinking I'm going to be


released on bond and I’m probably [going to] be found innocent.

In the meantime, Peterson said, “I'm being treated pretty


exceptional. This is a brand new facility — the Will County Jail in
Joliet. The staff’s very courteous and professional. I'm in a cell
where I'm pretty much isolated from everybody. The only
contact I have with people are the guards and the people who
bring me my food.”

He also said that he hadn’t anticipated he would ever be


arrested. “Now that it’s happened, we’ll have to move forward
and defend it,” he said.

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Peterson has two teenage children aged 16 and 14 by Savio,


and two more aged 5 and 4 by his fourth wife, Stacey Peterson,
who has been missing since October 2007. Stacey Peterson’s
family and friends say he killed her. He maintains she ran off
with another man.

The children are staying with an adult son he has from an


earlier marriage, he said.

“I have phone contact with them daily, and they’re doing very
well,” Peterson said. “The older two, they know what’s going on.
They are aware of what's happening. And the younger two —
I’m just with the police right now helping them.

“You told them you’re actually out helping the police trying to
find their mom?” Lauer asked.

“I didn't say I was trying to find her, just said I was helping the
police, and I believe that is what my son has told them,”
Peterson replied.

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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by GC505

In a phone interview from the Will County Jail


in Joliet, Ill., recorded Thursday and broadcast
Friday, Drew Peterson told TODAY’s Matt
Lauer that he’ll “probably be found innocent”
of the 2004 murder of his third wife, Kathleen
Savio. The 55-year-old former Bolingbrook,
Ill., police sergeant was also harshly critical of
the grand jury system that indicted him.
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Location: Tucson, AZ
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Once again, even if Drew is actually innocent, his loud,


unchecked, arrogant, stupidity-spewing mouth is going to
ultimately put a needle into his arm. It's difficult to see how any
jury composed of breathing human beings will see him as
anything other than a murdering scumbag p!g. Even if he IS
innocent, barring a completely corrupt "justice" system, the
sewage spewing from his brain-disconnected cakehole will turn
even the most pro-p!g jury against him, even in Illiinois.

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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
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pyo1 quote:
Senior Member
Originally posted by GC505
Registered: May 2009 [b]Drew Peterson: I’ll ‘probably be found
Location: Oklahoma innocent’
Posts: 1565 In jailhouse interview, accused killer criticizes grand
jury that indicted him
By Mike Celizic
TODAYShow.com contributor
updated 8:40 a.m. CT, Fri., May 15, 2009

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30759276/

“No idea. And the grand jury system seriously needs to


be revised,” he replied. “I truly believe that if they
wanted to they could have indicted you for this
incident. What you have is a bunch of lay people that
are in there and they have been sitting there for 18
months, and they are uneducated on the points of law,
rules of evidence and things like that.”

The very system they rely upon to victimize everyone else!

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Puddles quote:
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Originally posted by liberranter
I sincerely hope Tom Morphey is careful, since
Drew might very well have a small army of his
Registered: Aug 2007 fellow scumbags-in-blue ready to "mop up" after
Location: him.
Posts: 21

liberranter, I've had the same thoughts about Morphey. I do hope


he can stay safe.

I think Drew's been doing dirty deeds since he first got on the force.
I think he surrounded himself with the same ilk. Do I have proof....
nope but....it's just my opinion.

Kathleen's murder was covered up. There is no way I will believe it


wasn't. Drew must have called in favors...and people just looked

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the other way.

This woman cried out for help. The SOB's ignored her...Karma is a
Biotch...

Just looking at Drew in uniform makes me ill. I bet he treated


women he stopped or went on domestic calls like dirt.

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GC Marciano Drew Peterson pleads not guilty in 3rd wife's death


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Will County prosecutors' request for new judge delays hearing
Steve Schmadeke | Tribune reporter
May 19, 2009

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,2054740.story

A more circumspect Drew Peterson pleaded not guilty Monday


to murder charges in the drowning of third wife Kathleen Savio
but will remain jailed in lieu of $20 million bail after
Registered: Jul 2003 prosecutors, in a rare move, sought immediately to replace the
Location: Chicago, Illinois judge hearing the case.
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Will County State's Atty. James Glasgow announced that he was
filing a motion to replace Judge Richard Schoenstedt, who had
assigned himself the case. The motion seeks a new judge "on
the ground of prejudice" against prosecutors.

Schoenstedt dismissed two charges of unlawful use of a weapon


against Peterson last year after the state's attorney's office
refused to give Peterson's legal team internal police memos, e-
mails and other correspondence relating to his arrest in May.
Authorities had seized weapons from Peterson during the
investigation into his fourth wife's Oct. 28, 2007, disappearance.

Chief Judge Gerald Kinney set a hearing for Thursday on the


issue.

Outside the courthouse, defense attorney Joel Brodsky blasted


the state's motion.

"It's nothing but gamesmanship," he said. "I think it shows that


the state does not want to try this case on the merits. It wants
to try it on technicalities."

Will County attorneys interviewed Monday said such substitution


motions are almost always granted. Prosecutors can have only
one judge removed from a murder case; the defense can have

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two.

"You don't have to put evidence on or demonstrate any actual


bias," said Randal Miller, a general-practice attorney who has
worked in Joliet for more than 30 years.

Before Glasgow's request, Brodsky entered a plea of not guilty


on Peterson's behalf as his client stood silent, wearing a blue
jail jumpsuit and shackles. Peterson didn't crack jokes inside or
outside the courtroom, as he did in his initial appearance May 8.

Brodsky said he was granted face-to-face visits with Peterson at


Will County Jail on Monday, but had not instructed him on how
to behave. He said after the arraignment that there was a "little
bit of levity" with Peterson.

Brodsky told the Tribune last week that he was prepared to ask
a judge to drastically lower Peterson's bail from $20 million to
between $100,000 and $500,000.

Brodsky also said Monday that he was "leaning strongly" toward


asking that a jury be picked from outside the county to hear the
case.

Three attorneys -- Brodsky, his law partner Reem Odeh and


Michigan lawyer Andrew Abood -- have filed paperwork to
represent Peterson. Brodsky said a fourth, Naperville attorney
John Paul Carroll, will also represent Peterson. Carroll declined
to comment.

Savio's family filled the first few rows inside the courtroom
Monday, and some said they thought Peterson, seated in the
jury box, was looking at them in a mocking way.

"We have been going through five years of suffering," Savio's


brother Nick said afterward. "He's made a mockery out of both
of our families."

But Savio's niece Melissa Doman said she felt better seeing
Peterson's demeanor changed.

"The smug smirk is gone," the Romeoville resident said. "I've


seen him walking around for over a year with that smug smirk,
and it's gone. Now he's sitting in jail."

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GC Marciano Drew Peterson pleads not guilty to murdering wife


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By DON BABWIN
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1...w_peterson.html

JOLIET, Ill. -- Former police officer Drew Peterson got the


chance Monday to plead not guilty to charges that he killed his
third wife, but could not ask the judge to lower his multimillion-
dollar bail.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois The judge may no longer be on the case.
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The prosecution had asked Judge Richard Schoenstedt to step
down from the case, saying that he was biased against them.
The motion delayed Peterson's $20 million bail reduction
hearing and angered his attorney.

"It's nothing but gamesmanship," Joel Brodsky said. "It shows


the state does not want to try this case on the merits."

Brodsky said he would press Will County State Attorney James


Glasgow at a hearing on Thursday to explain his reasoning.

Will County prosecutors have not been happy with


Schoenstedt's dismissal of felony gun charges against the
former Bolingbrook police sergeant late last year. Peterson is
accused in the 2004 drowning death of Kathleen Savio.

Glasgow's office would only say in a two-page document that it


wants the judge replaced "on the ground of prejudice against
the State ... ."

Schoenstedt dismissed the gun charges in November after


prosecutors refused to hand over internal documents between
their office and the Illinois State Police that led to their decision
to arrest Peterson.

Will County prosecutors told the judge such a move would open
a "flood gate" for future cases.

The two sides also appear headed for a fight over a state law
passed after the 2007 disappearance of Peterson's fourth wife,

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Stacy.

The law allows a judge to admit hearsay evidence in first-


degree murder cases if prosecutors can prove a defendant killed
a witness to prevent them from testifying.

The law is unconstitutional and should be struck down because


it was passed specifically to put Peterson in jail, Brodsky said.

Several members of Savio's family, as well as Stacy Peterson's


relatives, attended the hearing.

Stacy Peterson's disappearance led authorities to re-examine


Savio's death. Savio's body was found in a dry bathtub with a
gash on the back of her head.

Originally ruled an accident, her death was reclassified as a


homicide after her body was exhumed and an autopsy
conducted.

Peterson's numerous media appearances, in which he gained a


reputation for making smart-aleck remarks, played a role
Monday.

While the 55-year-old Peterson, wearing a blue jail-issue


jumpsuit with both his feet and hands shackled, did not make
any comments, members of Savio's family said later that he
waved to Savio's sister, Sue Doman.

Her son, Michael Lisak, said Peterson looked at family members


"almost in a mocking way."

Brodsky disputed that contention. And Peterson, who shortly


after his May 7 arrest held up his hands to reporters and
jokingly referred to the handcuffs as "bling," did not make any
obvious gestures or facial expressions.

Even one of Savio's relatives said Peterson's demeanor had


changed since his arrest.

"He's been walking around for over a year with a smug smirk
and now it's gone," said Savio's niece, Melissa Doman.

The next argument will be over Brodsky's plan to ask the judge
to reduce Peterson's bond to under $500,000.

Before the hearing, Brodsky said that since police named


Peterson a suspect in Stacy Peterson's disappearance in late
2007, he has traveled to such places as Mexico, California and
Florida without ever trying to flee.

With a home in Bolingbrook, where he lives with his four


youngest children, and other relatives in the area, Peterson is
not the kind of flight risk or danger to the community that
would justify a multimillion-dollar bond, Brodsky said.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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GC Marciano As Peterson's conduct and actions with regard to Kathleen Savio


Copwatcher Extraordinaire are further examined, potential estate theft, an increasingly
problematic issue, will likely become an aspect of this case -
maybe even a motive for Savio's murder. A recent Chicago
Tribune article (http://www.chicagotribune.com/
news/...0,6241154.story) describes how upon Savio's death,
"Peterson submitted a handwritten will signed by him and Savio
specifying that in death all assets would go to the surviving
spouse and appointing Peterson's uncle James Carroll as
Registered: Jul 2003
executor. All proceeds from Savio's estate -- valued at up to
Location: Chicago, Illinois $288,000, according to court documents -- were handed to
Posts: 9967 Peterson." A court-appointed public estate administrator was
later quoted saying that Carroll's actions "were not in the best
interests of the Estate or its beneficiaries." The administrator
also noted that most of Savio's personal belongings had been
removed from her home prior to the administrator's
appointment in April, one month after her death.

Here's an interesting point. Kathleen Savio's body was


discovered on March 1, 2004. Although an April 6 trial was
scheduled to settle the distribution of their marital assets as
well as child custody issues, Kathleen and Drew had been
divorced since October 2003. And, Drew was already married to
Stacy Peterson! Upon her death, Kathleen Savio was not
married - definitely not to Drew Peterson - yet Peterson's uncle
evidently treated this will (the document itself been questioned
by some) as though Drew was a "surviving spouse."

Marshall v. Marshall, the long-running estate battle initiated by


Anna Nicole Smith, is based upon Smith's claim that J. Howard
Marshall II is alleged to have told her he wanted her to have

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half of his fortune. His carefully constructed estate plan made


no mention of this desire and, in fact, it was known within his
family/business circles that Marshall was providing for Smith
during his lifetime in lieu of including her as an heir or
beneficiary upon his death. If Smith (or now her estate) were to
be awarded assets based on an unsubstantiated verbal claim,
this could lower the standard for claiming assets from estates
throughout the U.S. and functionally destroy traditional rights of
inheritance.

For a number of years, much having to do with Drew Peterson


seems to have been irregular yet accepted - not surprisingly
given Illinois' reputation for embracing corruption over integrity
when it comes to many public officeholders and policy. In the
case of Kathleen Savio's alleged will, if this document is truly as
it has been described and if Drew Peterson retains beneficial
status, might the state of Illinois have potentially set a legal
precedent that former spouses can now stand to inherit the
assets of their past wife/husband as a "surviving spouse"
despite being divorced? As with Marshall v. Marshall, allowing
minimized standards to dictate the final distribution of a
person's assets disrespects the decedent, opens the door to
fraud and abuse as well as diminishes the rights of legitimate
heirs and beneficiaries.

The court system and legal instruments such as wills, trusts,


guardianships and powers of attorney are increasingly being
used to loot assets of the dead and disabled/incapacitated. The
will of Kathleen Savio is likely to become a significant
component of Drew Peterson's murder investigation and trial.
Asset looting through estate abuse is enjoying "growth
industry" status. It's a complicated issue with many facets and
attention generated by the Peterson/Savio case will help
highlight the ease with which probate theft can occur and how it
is becoming an increasing threat to American property rights.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano New judge assigned to hear Drew Peterson's murder case


Copwatcher Extraordinaire May 21, 2009
BY DAN ROZEK Staff Reporter

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...-052109.article

Will County prosecutors succeeded today in having a new judge


appointed to hear Drew Peterson’s murder case after
contending the judge originally assigned was biased against
them.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Will County Chief Judge Gerald Kinney named Judge Carla
Posts: 9967 Alessio-Policandriotes to hear the murder charges against the
former Bolingbrook cop accused of drowning third wife Kathleen
Savio in 2004.

Prosecutors earlier had requested that Judge Richard


Schoenstedt be removed from the case because of “bias against
the state.”

Peterson’s lawyers sought to block that move, but Kinney ruled


the request was valid under Illinois law — which allows
prosecutors to exclude one judge from a criminal case.

Peterson’s defense team initially balked at Alessio-Policandriotes


when she was was assigned, then recanted and agreed to
accept her presiding over the high-profile proceedings.

Defense attorney Joel Brodsky later raised the possibility of


seeking to have a special prosecutor try Peterson because Will
County prosecutors -- including State's Attorney James Glasgow
-- might know Peterson too well from his work as a long-time
police officer in the county.

"It's not something we’ve totally excluded either,” Brodsky said.

Peterson’s attorneys expect Friday to ask that his $20 million


bond be slashed dramatically so he can remain free until his
trial.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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GC Marciano Stacy Peterson's Body? Could Take Weeks to Identify


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Remains
Remains Found on River Bank Near Blue Barrel Could Be Stacy
Peterson's or Lisa Stebic's

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7642347&page=1

Police are facing major obstacles in identifying the body found


along an Illinois river bank near the home of accused murderer
Drew Peterson since the corpse is missing its head, arms and
Registered: Jul 2003 skin.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 The office of Will County Coroner Patrick K. O'Neil said the body
-- which many believe could be that of either Peterson's missing
wife Stacy -- was clad in only women's underwear and shreds of
blue jeans that held a small amount of money.

Since the corpse lacks a head, hands or feet, it has complicated


identifying the body through dental records or prints.

"The partial skeletal remains consisted of a rib cage, spinal


column and partial left and right femur bones," the coroner's
office said.

The lack of skin has made it more difficult to obtain DNA. A


coroner and a forensic anthropologist are working together to
confirm the gender of the corpse and are expected to test the
bone marrow to try and identify the remains, sources told ABC
News affiliate WLS's Amy Jacobson.

The coroner's office said it will take at least two weeks to obtain
the DNA and determine its match.

They are also trying to determine whether the head was


severed before or after death, O'Neil said. Police are also
searching for the body's head and other body parts.

Though officials acknowledge the body could be someone else's


the similarities between Stacy Peterson and another missing
woman, Lisa Stebic, are numerous. Both are of similar height
and weight and both have had Cesearan sections after giving
birth. They also disappeared within months of each other.

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The discovery Wednesday of the decomposing body near


Peterson's Illinois home has the potential to blow huge holes in
his claim that his fourth wife simply ran off with another man.

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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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05-22-2009 12:15 AM

GC Marciano Drew's Lawyer Flip Flops on New Judge


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Brodsky: We're not concerned one bit about body found in river

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...-New-Judge.html

Prosecutors in the murder case against former police officer


Drew Peterson got their wish when a new judge was appointed
Thursday. Peterson's defense attorney quickly said he'd ask that
the new judge be replaced, too, but then changed his mind and
said he won't object to the new judge.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois The Will County state's attorney earlier this week had asked
Posts: 9967 that Will County Judge Richard Schoenstedt be removed from
the case against Peterson because of prejudice. Peterson's
lawyer, Joel Brodsky, challenged the prosecution's efforts to get
Schoensted taken off the case, and appeared ready to fight new
appointment of the new judge, Carla Alessio Policandriotes. He
didn't say why he wanted to argue against the appointment, or
why he changed his mind and decided to accept it.

Peterson is charged with killing his third wife, Kathleen Savio.


His defense team has filed a motion to have Peterson's $20
million bond reduced to somewhere between $100,000 and
$500,000, but that hearing has been delayed until Friday.

Peterson is charged in Savio's 2004 drowning. Savio's case was


initially ruled an accident but was reopened after Peterson's

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fourth wife, Stacy, disappeared in 2007.

Police discovered a badly decomposed body in the Des Plaines


River on Wednesday. While the find has in no way been
connected with Peterson's case, police had previously combed
the area several times, looking for leads into Stacy Peterson's
disappearance. Asked whether they were worried about the
find, Brodsky said, "We are not concerned with that one bit ...
You can speculate why."

The "why" Brodsky wants us to speculate on is that Drew


maintains Stacy ran off with another man.

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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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05-22-2009 12:17 AM

GC Marciano Local media report on the badly decomposed body discovered


Copwatcher Extraordinaire today, less than 20 miles from Drew Peterson's home:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BXX...player_embedded

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Posts: 9967 state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
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liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by GC505

Local media report on the badly decomposed


body discovered today, less than 20 miles
from Drew Peterson's home:

Lemme guess: Once the remains are positively identified as


Registered: Jun 2005
Stacey's, the murdering scumbag swine will try to pin her
Location: Tucson, AZ
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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
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GC Marciano Drew Peterson tried to pay $25,000 to have Kathleen


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Savio killed
May 22, 2009
BY DAN ROZEK Staff Reporter

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...-052209.article

A few months before his third wife drowned in a bathtub, Drew


Peterson offered someone $25,000 to kill her, Will County
State’s Attorney James Glasgow contended today in court as he
Registered: Jul 2003 sought to keep Peterson jailed on murder charges in Kathleen
Location: Chicago, Illinois Savio’s death.
Posts: 9967
And just three weeks before Savio’s 2004 death, Peterson —
then a Bolingbrook cop — complained to another officer that his
pending divorce would be so financially devastating that “my life
would be easier if she were just dead,” Glasgow said.

The new details emerged as Glasgow argued that Peterson


should remain jailed on a $20 million bond set earlier this
month when he was arrested for allegedly drowning Savio
during what Glasgow called a “vitriolic” divorce.

After hearing the new information, Will County Judge


Carla Alessio Policandriotes refused to lower the bond —
which would require the 55-year-old Peterson to post $2
million to be released from the Will County Adult
Detention Facility.

Peterson’s attorneys have said the former police sergeant can’t


post that much money and had asked that the bond be reduced
to no more than $1 million.

Savio’s relatives said they were pleased that Peterson will


remain behind bars as the case against him proceeds, but were
stunned by the claims that Peterson allegedly tried to hire
someone to kill Savio.

“It was a shock to us,” said Savio’s sister, Sue Doman. “It
brought tears to our eyes.”

“It’s a very bittersweet victory,” Anna Doman, another of


Savio’s sisters, said of the decision to let Peterson’s bond stand.

Outside the courtroom, Glasgow would only say that he was


pleased the judge didn’t reduce a bond he described as
“appropriate.”

Defense attorneys, however, dismissed the new allegations


against Peterson, saying prosecutors won’t be able to prove
those claims when Peterson stands trial.

Still, Peterson was “a little bit taken aback” by the decision not

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to reduce his bond at all, defense attorney Joel Brodsky said.

Even before Judge Policandriotes ruled on the bond reduction,


however, defense attorneys had raised a suggestion that she
remove herself from the case because of her purported earlier
involvement with the Peterson-Savio divorce case.

Brodsky in court said Policandriotes signed a legal order that


dissolved a protective order that Savio had obtained during the
divorce case barring Peterson from having any contact with
Savio.

The judge also had signed an order relating to attorneys fees in


the divorce, said Brodsky, who could offer no paperwork
documenting those claims when asked by Policandriotes.

For her part, the judge said she didn’t remember being involved
in any facet of that case.

“I have absolutely no recollection of entering orders in the


Savio-Peterson divorce case,” she said.

After the hearing, defense attorneys said they still may seek to
replace Policandriotes — who only was appointed Thursday to
hear Peterson’s murder case.

“I won’t totally foreclose that option,” Brodsky said.

During the court hearing, Glasgow also said that Peterson


remains the “only suspect” in the still-unsolved 2007
disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson.

Stacy’s sister said after the hearing that she is pleased that
Peterson will remain behind bars while he awaits trial for Savio’s
slaying.

“I’m going to sleep good tonight,” Cassandra Cales said.

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Drew Peterson arrives at the Will County Courthouse


today shackled in handcuffs and leg irons:

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Night Raven Drew Peterson calls talk show, jokes from jail
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www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-...0,7065419.story

chicagotribune.com
Drew Peterson calls talk show, jokes from jail
Associated Press

7:24 PM CDT, May 27, 2009


Registered: May 2008
Location: CHICAGO
Posts: 4812
Drew Peterson cracked jokes live from jail on Wednesday on a
Chicago radio show that he called collect.

The former Bolingbrook police officer, charged in his third wife's


death, offered snippets of a comedy routine on WLS Radio's
Mancow & Cassidy show.

"$20 million bond. Legal fees: tens of thousands. Being falsely


accused of a homicide that didn't happen: priceless," Peterson said
in a spoof of a MasterCard commercial.

Peterson once proposed a "Win a Date With Drew" contest and


offered a jail version called "Win a Conjugal Visit with Drew." He
also joked about prison showers, his legal fees and his "bling"
handcuffs, saying humor is how he deals with stress.

During the nearly 7-minute phone call, Peterson tried out a few
crude one-liners.

"I didn't understand why they had seat belts on the toilet until after
I had a couple of meals here," he said while the hosts played a
drum sound effect.

He also said he misses his children and has prayed and read the
Bible during his imprisonment.

Peterson is charged with first-degree murder in the 2004 death of


his third wife, Kathleen Savio. He is also a suspect in the 2007
disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson.

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He denies wrongdoing.

Copyright 2009 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material


may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

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that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
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liberranter Re: Drew Peterson's Son: "Accidents happen all the time"
Super Moderator
quote:

Originally posted by Night Raven

...Thomas, 16, sat on his father's right side.


Thomas wore a black suit, black shirt and
white tie, and did all the talking for the two.

Thomas said he was skeptical of accusations


that his father had something to do with his
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ mother's death.
Posts: 5865
"I don't know what else to say," he said. "I
don't believe it."

Thomas also criticized his mother's sister,


Anna Marie Doman, and her father, Henry J.
Savio, for bringing a wrongful death lawsuit
against Drew Peterson earlier this week.

"I think it's ridiculous," Thomas said. "They're


trying to take money from my dad and
basically give it back to us.

"Do the math," he said.

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...

But thrust on television or not, Thomas


Peterson was in full support of his father.

"I want to say he's the greatest dad in the


whole world," Thomas said. "A lot of people

don't know that."

It sounds like Drew's eldest son is growing up to become a


lying, self-serving, misogynistic dickhead scumbag criminal, just
like his daddy.

The apple truly doesn't fall far from the tree. Look for Tommy
Peterson to someday occupy a cell in the same prison where his
daddy will spend the rest of his life, assuming that Tommy isn't
gunned down in the street first.

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powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." -
Thomas Jefferson

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"And this brings us to a point that has to be driven home with


the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

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freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
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GC Marciano Drew Peterson isn't getting special treatment in jail,


Copwatcher Extraordinaire officials say
Dealing with murder suspect's celebrity, however, is a bit of a
nuisance, they admit
Erika Slife | Tribune reporter
May 29, 2009

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,4654269.story

Inmate No. 20090003825 has been locked up inside the Will


Registered: Jul 2003 County jail for only three weeks but has already been
Location: Chicago, Illinois interviewed by Matt Lauer on the "Today" show and cracked
Posts: 9967
jokes on WLS-AM's "Mancow & Cassidy."

Drew Peterson, who is accused of killing third wife Kathleen


Savio, has kept a high profile even behind the concrete walls of
the Will County Adult Detention Facility in Joliet. Jail officials are
trying to reassure the public calling in to complain that
Peterson, who has pleaded not guilty, isn't receiving any special
treatment, but they acknowledge that his bizarre media
celebrity is something of a nuisance.

"We've had some high-profile inmates over the years, but I've
never had it like this where they're trying to be a comedian on a
radio show," said sheriff's spokesman Pat Barry. "It is a
problem. This guy makes jokes, says things that aren't true."

Among statements Peterson made that Barry said were fiction:


Peterson's assertion that other inmates "are cheering me on"
when he is taken to and from the jail for court appearances,
joking about showering with men (Peterson showers alone) and
having a "Win a Conjugal Visit With Drew" contest (conjugal
visits aren't allowed at the jail).

Peterson's attorney Joel Brodsky said his client -- who in


Wednesday's radio interview said he missed being able to
adequately trim his mustache and nose hairs -- is just bored.

"Drew's pretty much in isolation, with no contact with anybody,"


Brodsky said Thursday. "He likes to be around people. He's
getting pretty bored -- he did this out of boredom."

Inmates have the ability to make collect phone calls of up to 20


minutes during their recreation time, and when they are calling
their attorneys, it's considered a constitutionally protected right,
officials said. Barry said jail officials have considered seeking a
court order to end Peterson's call-in interviews, but so far have
not. He did not know if it was legally possible.

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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GC Marciano Glasgow seeks Peterson gag order


Copwatcher Extraordinaire May 28, 2009
By JOE HOSEY

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/...o052809.article

JOLIET — Prosecutors are pushing to shut Drew Peterson's


lawyers up about potential evidence against the alleged wife-
killer.

Registered: Jul 2003 State's Attorney James Glasgow filed a motion on Wednesday to
Location: Chicago, Illinois forbid attorneys from leaking anything from discovery
Posts: 9967 documents, which will be turned over to Peterson's legal team
for the first time next week.

Glasgow warned that witnesses are worried that they will be


besieged by the media if their names are made public. He said a
TV reporter contacted a witness last month after her name
surfaced in documents stolen from a state police squad car.

Glasgow also argued that a witness' name was leaked while


Peterson was facing felony weapons charges in 2008.

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, did release the name of Coal


City resident Mike Kurdenok after he turned up in the state's
evidence. Glasgow says the "witness was subject to media
harassment."

Brodsky failed to return calls for comment.

'Pretrial publicity'

Besides protecting witnesses from the media, a gag order would


"prevent undue pretrial publicity that might affect the jury
selection in this case," Glasgow said in the motion.

Brodsky has repeatedly said he is considering an attempt to get


the case taken out of Will County in hopes of finding a jury

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without bias against Peterson.

But if Brodsky is looking for an unmuddied jury pool, Peterson


has done little to help keep it clean. Even after he was taken
into custody on first-degree murder charges in connection with
the death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio, Peterson has
continued to thrust himself into the public eye, calling collect
from the jail to the "Today" show for an interview and to
Mancow Muller's radio show to tell jokes.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano DNA Shows Headless Skeleton Was Male


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Connection To Peterson, Stebic Cases Ruled Out In Remains
Found Along Ill. River
Joliet, Ill., May 28, 2009

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009...in5045422.shtml

(AP) DNA test results released Wednesday show a headless,


armless skeleton found along the Des Plaines River last week
was from an unidentified male, ending speculation the badly
Registered: Jul 2003 decomposed body was one of two women whose
Location: Chicago, Illinois disappearances have drawn national media attention.
Posts: 9967
Results of an autopsy performed last week on the remains were
inconclusive. The person had been dead several months or
more, but the rib cage, spinal column and partial left and right
femur bones were not enough to determine an identity, race or
gender of the corpse, authorities said.

Shreds of blue jeans and a small amount of U.S. currency were


also found along with the remains near the town of Channahon.

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An investigation into the corpse's identity was ongoing, Illinois


State Police said Wednesday in a statement.

The location of the remains in Will County prompted speculation


they were related to the high-profile missing person cases of
Stacy Peterson or Lisa Stebic.

Stacy Peterson's husband Drew has pleaded not guilty to killing


his third wife, Kathleen Savio. He contends Stacy, his fourth
wife, left him for another man when she disappeared in October
2007 and is most likely living outside Illinois.

"We can take no joy or relief in the fact that it isn't (Stacy
Peterson) because some family somewhere will be grieving,"
Drew Peterson's attorney, Reem Odeh. "But we hope this
invigorates a global search for Stacy and brings attention to the
fact that she is still missing."

Savio's death was originally ruled an accidental drowning. It


was reclassified as a homicide after her body was exhumed and
an autopsy conducted following Stacy Peterson's disappearance.

Drew Peterson is being held at the Will County Jail on $20


million bond.

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GC Marciano Drew Peterson judge replaced for a second time


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Stephen White to handle murder case of Kathleen Savio, Drew
Peterson's 3rd wife
Tribune staff report
June 2, 2009

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,2360497.story

For the second time, the judge in the Drew Peterson murder
Registered: Jul 2003 case has been replaced.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Will County Chief Judge Gerald Kinney on Monday assigned the
case to Circuit Judge Stephen White. The move was in response
to the defense's motion for a judge other than Carla Alessio
Policandriotes. Kinney said he found that the defense's motion
"does appear to meet the criteria."

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, didn't specify why he wanted


a different judge. Earlier, State's Atty. James Glasgow, who is
prosecuting the case, said in court he didn't oppose the motion,
saying it is "a statutory right."

Policandriotes handled a small part of the 2002 divorce case


between Peterson and Kathleen Savio, signing an early order
setting child support and awarding Savio temporary custody of
their children.

Peterson is alleged to have killed Savio in 2004 after they had


divorced but before financial and other matters had been
settled.

Peterson has pleaded not guilty.

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GC Marciano Peterson judge limits phone contact, interviews


Copwatcher Extraordinaire June 3, 2009 7:02 PM

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...interviews.html

After hearing Will County's chief prosecutor complain about


Drew Peterson's jailhouse interviews and his attorneys' cable-TV
appearances, a judge today took the rare step of requiring all
parties in the highly-publicized murder case to provide details of
any planned media interviews or press releases to himself and
Registered: Jul 2003 the regulatory body overseeing the state's attorneys.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Peterson is charged with the 2004 murder of ex-wife Kathleen
Savio. He has pleaded not guilty.

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Will County Circuit Court Judge Stephen White also restricted


Peterson--who has done at least two press interviews from jail--
to making collect calls only to his attorneys, friends and family.
Any other calls would require the judge's permission.

White asked for a list of permitted numbers, which the jail will
enter into its computerized phone system, but Peterson later
said he couldn't remember the phone numbers of anyone
besides his son since they were stored in his cell phone.

White turned down a request by prosecutors to set guidelines


for Peterson's attorneys when they meet face-to-face with their
client. Asst. State's Atty. Nicole Moore raised the issue of Joel
Brodsky, one of Peterson's attorneys, playing a card game with
his client 10 minutes into an afternoon visit on May 24.

Defense attorney Andrew Abood said Brodsky was trying to help


Peterson relax before making "some very serious decisions
about his case." --In their court filing, Peterson's attorneys
described him as being "sluggish, slow to respond and forgetful"
due to being locked up in isolation. But White said the games
would have to go.

"If they were allowed to play at will, there would be a Texas


Hold 'em tournament at the end of the month," he said.

Peterson, whose four children haven't seen him since he was


jailed May 7 but who talk to him on the phone daily, is mentally
suffering from being kept in isolation, Brodsky said outside
court Wednesday.

"Drew is always very sharp, very witty with a lot of quick


comebacks," Brodsky said. "Certainly that sharp edge has been
dulled somewhat. I think that is obviously a result of being kept
in isolation."

Also during Wednesday's hearing, State's Atty. James Glasgow


lambasted the Chicago-Kent College of Law and a WGN radio
show for staging a mock trial of the Peterson case last week,
saying he'd called a school dean, the show and the Illinois
Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission to try and
prevent the "abhorrent" event, which ended with a hung jury.

Chicago-Kent College of Law Dean Harold Krent said WGN


contacted both sides in advance of the mock trial but he didn't
hear of Glasgow's objections until the prosecutor left him a
message the day of the event.

"I think he's over-reacting," he said. "It's already been on


national TV. Even if people paid attention to this, I think it's a
far cry from tainting the jury pool."

As for Judge White's requirement that both parties in the case


alert him and the state's attorney's regulatory body of any

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planned media interviews or press releases, James Grogan,


deputy administrator and chief counsel of the agency, said he
could not comment on how they would handle the information
from parties.

He said that there were staffers "very well-versed" in the rules


of pre-trial publicity. "It is rare to have a situation where judges
have referred matters to us for prior screening," he said.

Also during Wednesday's hearing, prosecutors turned over three


cardboard boxes containing nearly 9,500 pages of documents to
defense attorneys. White ordered a list of possible witnesses--
which defense attorneys said included hundreds of people--to
be sealed.

A trial was set for Aug. 24.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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GC Marciano Appellate Court: Drew Peterson's bail will not be lowered


Copwatcher Extraordinaire June 7, 2009 at 1:53 PM

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/06...13001244397222/

JOLIET, Ill., June 7 (UPI) -- The $20 million bail keeping


accused killer Drew Peterson in police custody will not be
lowered as requested by his lawyers, an Illinois appellate court
says.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Attorney Joel Brodsky, one of the attorneys representing
Posts: 9967 Peterson, said despite the court's ruling, defense team
members are confident they will soon have a more solid
foundation for getting his bail lowered, the Chicago Sun-Times
reported Sunday.

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"We're disappointed in the ruling from the Illinois 3rd District


Appellate Court, but we accept the court's ruling," Brodsky said.
"However, we are also confident that as the weakness of the
state's case is exposed over the following weeks and months we
will have another opportunity to ask for a reduction in bond."

Peterson is a former Bolingbrook, Ill., police officer who faces


murder charges for the 2004 drowning death of his third wife,
Kathleen Savio. His fourth wife Stacy is missing but he has not
been charged in that case.

The Sun-Times said the current bail level would mean $2 million
would have to be posted in order for Peterson to be freed from
a detention facility in Will County, Ill.

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Drew Peterson's bid to reduce bail rejected


Tribune staff report
June 7, 2009

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,6865574.story

A state appellate court has turned down Drew Peterson's bid to


lower his $20 million bail on charges he murdered his third wife,
his attorneys said Saturday.

The 3rd District Appellate Court was not persuaded by


arguments that Peterson's deep roots in Bolingbrook and lack of
a criminal record called for a lower bail. The $20 million bail was
set May 7, the day Peterson was arrested for the 2004 murder
of Kathleen Savio. Peterson's fourth wife, Stacy, is missing.

On May 22, another Will County judge denied Peterson's


attempt to lower his bail to less than $1 million. Peterson's
attorneys indicated they may try again. "We are also confident
that as the weakness of the state's case is exposed over the
following weeks and months we will have another opportunity to
ask for a reduction in bond," attorney Joel Brodsky said in a
statement.

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liberranter Drew Peterson's Story on TruTV Crime Library


Super Moderator

TruTV's online Crime Library Site has Drew Peterson's story


posted under the title "Drew Peterson: Wife Killer?" It's much
too long to copy here, but the full story can be found at this
URL:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/.../1.html?cnn=yes

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GC Marciano Drew Peterson murder trial delayed


Copwatcher Extraordinaire July 14, 2009
BY DAN ROZEK - Staff Reporter

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...-071409.article

Too much information -- including more than 40,000 pages of


investigative reports -- is delaying Drew Peterson's trial for the
2004 murder of third wife Kathleen Savio.

Registered: Jul 2003 Peterson and his attorneys agreed Tuesday to postpone his
Location: Chicago, Illinois scheduled Aug. 24 trial for Savio's bathtub drowning death so
Posts: 9967 they have time to study thousands of pages of police reports,
forensic evidence and electronically recorded conversations.

His defense team, though, indicated they plan an aggressive


defense, including launching a pre-trial legal challenge against a
controversial new state "hearsay" law that allows statements
Savio purportedly made before her death to be used at
Peterson's trial.

And, Peterson's attorneys also contended that an Illinois State


Police investigator acted improperly by asking out Peterson's
girlfriend -- a potential witness in the case -- following his May
7 arrest.

"It's bizarre beyond belief," defense attorney Joel Brodsky said


after Peterson's court hearing.

Will County prosecutors quickly brushed aside Brodsky's


allegation, saying state police investigators did nothing wrong in
trying to talk to Christina Raines about the case.

"It's absolutely a ridiculous assertion," said Charles Pelkie, a


spokesman for Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow.

Peterson, 55, remains jailed while awaiting trial.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano State's attorney: Cops did not hit on Drew Peterson's


Copwatcher Extraordinaire fiancee
July 17, 2009
BY JOE HOSEY jhosey@scn1.com

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...-071709.article

The Los Angeles attorney representing Drew Peterson's young


love shot down a claim from the accused wife-killer's lawyer
that a state cop hit on her client.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois "Chrissie has not had dinner with or gone to the movies with
Posts: 9967
any police officer other than Drew Peterson and she has no
interest in doing so," the attorney, Gloria Allred, said in a
written statement. "She does not feel that she was 'hit on' by
any police officer. We do not think there is a basis for filing a
complaint against any police officer and we have no plans to file
such a complaint."

Following a Tuesday court hearing, one of Peterson's attorneys,


Joel Brodsky, announced that a state police detective asked
Peterson's 24-year-old girlfriend, Christina Raines, to go out
with him on a date.

According to Brodsky, the state police detective proposed that


Raines accompany him to dinner and a movie.

The unidentified detective supposedly asked Raines out while


investigating the murder of Peterson's third wife, Kathleen
Savio, and disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson.
Peterson faces first-degree murder charges in connection with
Savio's death.

Brodsky said he planned to file a motion regarding the state


police detective's supposed romantic overture.

Charles B. Pelkie, the spokesman for the state's attorney's


office, refuted Brodsky's accusation, calling it "preposterous and
disingenuous."

Pelkie also said two detectives always interacted with Raines at


the same time and never left one or the other alone with her.

Brodsky's claim infuriated Raines' father, Ernie Raines, who


called Brodsky a "scumbag." Ernie Raines also called Peterson a
"scumbag" and threatened to "kick the [expletive] out of" and
"take apart" Brodsky if he happened to run into him.

Brodsky failed to return calls for comment on Allred's statement

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or to say how frightened he was of Ernie Raines.

Allred's involvement in the Peterson case is not the first time


she has stepped into a high-profile murder prosecution.

She represented Amber Frey, the girlfriend of convicted wife-


killer Scott Peterson, and was also the attorney for the family of
O.J. Simpson's slain wife, Nicole Brown Simpson.

Allred is the mother of television personality Lisa Bloom.

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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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Navigatr1 New autopsy: Drew Peterson’s third wife fought killer


Extended Sabatical

New autopsy: Drew Peterson’s third wife fought killer


http://www2.counton2.com/cbd/news/c...
r/47264/
Registered: Jul 2003
Location:
Posts: 31403
CNN
Published: July 23, 2009

A new autopsy of the third wife of former Illinois police officer Drew
Peterson shows that the woman was killed, a determination that
contradicts an earlier autopsy that said she died accidentally.

Peterson was arrested in May and charged with first-degree murder


in the 2004 death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio.

She and Peterson were going through a bitter divorce when Savio
was found dead in her bathtub with a gash to the back of her head.
The death was declared an accident by a coroner. Then Peterson’s
fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, went missing.

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Peterson also has been identified as a suspect in the disappearance


of Stacy Peterson, though her body has not been found.

A new autopsy in the Savio case reveals bruising consistent with a


struggle.

There was a 1-inch blunt-force laceration on the back of her head,


five scraping abrasions and six blunt-force, black-and-blue bruises
on her extremities, abdomen and buttocks, the autopsy said.

The bruising led well-respected forensic pathologist Michael Baden


to rule the death a homicide.

Peterson pleaded not guilty to murder in the Savio case in May and
has denied wrongdoing in both cases.

At an earlier court hearing, prosecutors said Peterson had tried to


pay a hit man $25,000 to kill Savio.

Peterson attorney Joel Brodsky dismissed the allegation, saying it


was one of many claims that he would disprove.

Peterson remains in jail, awaiting trial.

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GC Marciano Peterson's Murder Trial May Move From Will County


Copwatcher Extraordinaire

Peterson's Murder Trial May Move From Will County

http://www.wbbm780.com/Peterson-s-M...-County/4898277

CHICAGO (CBS) -- Drew Peterson's murder trial could get


moved out of Will County, as his attorney says he can't get a
fair trial there.
Registered: Jul 2003 Peterson is charged in the 2004 death of his third wife, Kathleen
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
Savio, whose body was found in a dry bathtub. Her death was
originally ruled an accident, but reclassified as a homicide
following a 2007 exhumation.

Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, told CBS 2 Tuesday night


that media attention is jeopardizing his client's right to a fair
trial.

When asked about claims that he and Peterson were seeking


publicity, Brodsky said, "We would expect that would be the
reaction from the (Will County) State's Attorney's office.

"We went through and we picked a number of examples of


media attention that were initiated by the State's Attorney
himself, or the police," Brodsky added.

Peterson has also been identified as a suspect in the


disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy, who vanished in
October 2007. He has pleaded not guilty to murder in the Savio
case, and has denied wrongdoing in both cases.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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Navigatr1 John Paul Carroll, one of Drew Peterson's attorneys is in legal


Extended Sabatical trouble. Apparently he forgot to tell the defendants in another case
about a plea offer from the prosecuting attorney, and they were
subsequently convicted at trial.

Registered: Jul 2003 Drew Peterson attorney John Paul Carroll faces discipline (IL)
Location: http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...&threadid=37065
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quote:

Carroll claims he forgot to mention the prosecutor's


offer to the Castros but then remembered after his
clients were convicted. He says he was conflicted about
what to do and realized he might be punished if he
came clean about the plea.

[snip]

Carroll, a former Chicago police detective and Cook


County assistant state's attorney, said he is
cooperating with the ARDC but does not know what the
organization plans to do with him.

As you can see, John Paul Carroll is a former Chicago police officer
and Cook County Assistant DA. No wonder he forgot to tell his
clients about the plea deal.

--Navigatr1

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merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
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GC Marciano Peterson's attorneys challenge hearsay law


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Associated Press
9:37 p.m. CDT, September 11, 2009

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,2340024.story

JOLIET, Ill. - Attorneys for former Bolingbrook police sergeant


Drew Peterson say they have filed final papers and briefs in
their motion to have the new Illinois hearsay law declared
unconstitutional.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois The law was expected to play a role in Peterson's upcoming trial
Posts: 9967 for the murder of his third wife, Kathleen Savio.

Defense attorneys Joel Brodsky and Andrew Aboodand Reem


Odeh submitted the briefs Friday.

Peterson has pleaded not guilty to a first-degree murder charge


in the 2004 death of Savio, whose body was found in a dry
bathtub.

Savio's death was originally ruled an accident. But after


Peterson was named a suspect in the disappearance of his
fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, in October 2007, Savio's body was
exhumed. Her death was ruled a homicide after a new autopsy.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by Navigatr1

John Paul Carroll, one of Drew Peterson's


attorneys is in legal trouble. Apparently he
forgot to tell the defendants in another case
about a plea offer from the prosecuting
attorney, and they were subsequently
convicted at trial.

Drew Peterson attorney John Paul Carroll


Registered: Jun 2005 faces discipline (IL)
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...
&threadid=37065

As you can see, John Paul Carroll is a former


Chicago police officer and Cook County
Assistant DA. No wonder he forgot to tell his
clients about the plea deal.

--Navigatr1

One criminal scumbag representing another. How appropriate.

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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
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GC Marciano Judge: Peterson civil case can proceed


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Wednesday, October 14, 2009 | 4:09 PM

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?se...ocal&id=7064866

(CHICAGO) (WLS) -- A Will County judge ruled Wednesday that


the civil lawsuit against Drew Peterson can proceed.

The family of Peterson's third wife Kathleen Savio filed a


wrongful death lawsuit against Peterson.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois The former Bolingbrook police officer is also charged in criminal
Posts: 9967 court with murdering Savio.

Peterson's attorney had asked that the judge issue a stay on


the Savio family's civil case pending the outcome of the criminal
case.

"The judge didn't stay the case, didn't freeze the case. But he
also said that Drew or indicated that Drew can take his Fifth
Amendment privilege in answer to any question or any
pleading," said Joel Brodsky, Peterson's attorney.

Savio's death was originally ruled an accident, but the case was
determined to be a homicide after Peterson's fourth wife Stacy
disappeared.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
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liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by GC505

"The judge didn't stay the case, didn't freeze


the case. But he also said that Drew or
indicated that Drew can take his Fifth
Amendment privilege in answer to any
question or any pleading," said Joel Brodsky,
Peterson's attorney.

Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ
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If what this judge is saying is that Peterson can "take the Fifth"
in his civil trial, then that trial verdict is going to be shredded by
an appeals court, since "the Fifth" applies to criminal cases
only. In fact, this judge maybe guaranteeing a mistrial before it
even starts.

Must be nice to have the judge on your side!

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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
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Grigg

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sleevelead quote:
Senior Member
Originally posted by liberranter
Registered: Dec 2006 If what this judge is saying is that Peterson can
Location: "take the Fifth" in his civil trial, then that trial
Posts: 146 verdict is going to be shredded by an appeals
court, since "the Fifth" applies to criminal cases
only. In fact, this judge maybe guaranteeing a
mistrial before it even starts.

Must be nice to have the judge on your side!

Not to take up for the scumbag coward Peterson, but as I


understand it, one can take the Fifth in civil court as well.

"The Fifth Amendment 'can be asserted in any proceeding, civil or


criminal, administrative or judicial, investigatory or adjudicatory;
and it protects against any disclosures which the witness reasonably
believes could be used in a criminal prosecution or could lead to
other evidence that might be so used.' Kastigar v. U.S., 406 U.S.
441, 44-45 ('72). "

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10-17-2009 01:15 AM

GC Marciano Drew Peterson suing JP Morgan Chase


Copwatcher Extraordinaire October 27, 2009
BY KARA SPAK Staff Reporter

http://www.suntimes.com/news/peters...-102709.article

Drew Peterson, accused of killing his third wife, sued JP Morgan


Chase in federal court late Monday, accusing the bank of
illegally cutting off a sizable home equity credit line.

Registered: Jul 2003 The suit claims in May 2005, Peterson received a home equity
Location: Chicago, Illinois credit line from Chase for $220,000. The credit line — which the
Posts: 9967 former Bolingbrook cop now wants to use to post part of his
bond, pay his attorneys and hire expert witnesses — was
suspended by the bank in May 2009.

The bank cited “imprisonment” as the cause of the suspension,


the suit said.

“If he doesn’t get the money and his assets are frozen he’ll
have to petition the court to allow him to use tax money to be
able to hire all these expensive expert witnesses,” said Walter
Maksym, who is representing Peterson in the suit. “Taxpayers
are already paying for the prosecution. He’s up against he

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might of the state and now his major asset is not accessible to
him.”

Maksym said Peterson’s annual income of nearly $109,000 is


more than he was earning when he applied for the credit line.

Peterson is currently receiving $6,067.71 monthly from his


Bolingbrook police pension and $2,758 monthly from Social
Security, the suit said.

The suit claims Chase violated the truth-in-lending act,


breached its contract with Peterson and violated the Illinois
Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practices Act, among
other charges. The suit is asking for the home equity line of
credit and damages if his credit is not restored.

“They’ve slandered his credit” so that Peterson can’t get credit


from another bank, Maksym said. “If he gets convicted because
they can’t get his assets they [Chase] might be on the hook for
that.”

A Chase spokesperson declined comment.

Peterson is currently being held on a $20 million bond in Will


County on charges that he killed his third wife, Kathleen Savio,
in 2004. Peterson’s fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, has been
missing since October 2007.

Maksym said using your home’s equity as bond is part of the


reason to have a home equity credit line.

“Remember ‘Goodfellas’ when Lorraine Bracco puts up her


mother’s house for Ray Liotta?” he said. “It’s a classic thing.”

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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10-27-2009 09:21 PM

GC Marciano Judge denies defense requests in Drew Peterson case


Copwatcher Extraordinaire 10/06/09

http://www.breakingtweets.com/2009/...-peterson-case/

Drew Peterson, a former Bolingbrook, Illinois police officer and


suspect in the murder of his third wife and disappearance of his
fourth wife, will not have his impending murder trial
moved, according to a ruling by Judge Stephen White.

Registered: Jul 2003 Peterson requested a change of venue, claiming that because of
Location: Chicago, Illinois the massive media coverage of the case, including his own
Posts: 9967 appearances on the Today Show, Nightline, his attempts to
participate in a radio dating contest and Fox News, he would
have trouble finding an impartial jury in Will County. Peterson’s
lawyers also challenged the ’Hearsay Law’, enacted less than a
year ago, which provides prosecutors the opportunity to use
statements made from Peterson’s third wife, Kathleen Savio,
recalling the fear she had for her life and disturbing speculations
about what Peterson had in store for her. According to the
United Press International, the judge was unmoved by the
request and confirmed that hearsay law only codified
existing case law.

Tweeters are keeping up with the many twists and turns in the
case and there seems to be little doubt amongst them about his
guilt.

Recently, Peterson’s step daughter, Lisa Ward, came forward on


“Good Morning America” to talk about the physical and mental
abuse she suffered at the hands of Peterson during the ten
years her mother, Peterson’s second wife, was married to him.

Peterson first came under suspicion after the disappearance of


his fourth wife, 23 year old Stacy Peterson, in October of 2007.
Since then, the remains of wife No. 3, Kathleen Savio, thought
to have drowned in their bathtub in 2004, were exhumed and a
corner confirmed that the death, which occured after a nasty
divorce from Peterson, was actually a homicide. He is currently
charged with the murder of Kathleen Savio

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano Download/view defense motions pertaining to the Drew


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Peterson case at the following website:

www.drewpetersondocuments.com

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
Registered: Jul 2003 officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
Location: Chicago, Illinois officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
Posts: 9967 state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
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of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano Testimony: Peterson limited investigators when Stacy


Copwatcher Extraordinaire disappeared
January 27, 2010 12:02 PM | 29

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...on-hearing.html

An Illinois State Police investigator took the stand at Drew


Peterson's evidentiary hearing this morning, describing how
Peterson did and didn't cooperate with police looking into the
disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy Peterson.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Special Agent Patrick Callaghan said Peterson only would allow
Posts: 9967 one of three investigators into his Bolingbrook home on Oct. 29,
2007, the day Stacy was reported missing. Peterson insisted on
accompanying that investigator, Callaghan testified, wouldn't
allow him to open drawers and only allowed the investigator to

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verify that Stacy wasn't there.

Peterson also refused to sign a form allowing investigators to


search his two vehicles, but did open the trunk of one them for
police, he said. Peterson allowed police to examine a car he said
Stacy had said to him the night before in a telephone
conversation she had taken to Clow Airport. In that call,
Peterson told police, Stacy said she was tired of her life and
wasn't coming back.

After receiving that call about 9:30 p.m. on the 28th, Peterson
told police he drove around for a while, then walked to the
nearby airport and retrieved Stacy's car. He said he found the
car unlocked with the keys on the floorboard.

Callaghan said Peterson several times bragged to investigators


about his sex life with Stacy, even though he hadn't be asked
about that.

Callaghan will return to the stand after lunch, when he will be


cross-examined by Peterson's attorneys.

Earlier in the morning, a physician who treated Kathleen Savio


testified there was no medical reason that would explain why
she might have slipped and fallen in a bathtub on the day she
died in 2004.

Drew Peterson has pleaded not guilty to Savio's murder. He has


not been charged in the disappearance of Stacy.

Dr. Vinod Motiani testified that Savio was taking a variety of


medication and had been complaining of numbness to the feet,
but she was not more prone than a normal person to slip and
fall.

Savio -- the third wife of Drew Peterson --- was found dead in
the bathtub of her home in March of 2004 and her death was
initially ruled an accident. When Peterson's fourth wife Stacy
disappeared three years later, Savio's body was exhumed and
her death reclassified a homicide.

Motiani took the stand at a hearing to determine what, if any,


hearsay evidence should be presented at Peterson's trial for
Savio's murder.

A pastor who counseled Stacy is expected to testify Friday.

w_schori200.gifNeil Schori has said in interviews that Stacy


confided in him that Peterson told her he had killed third wife
Kathleen Savio.

Judge Stephen White has barred Schori from recounting


conversations he had in the couple's home and during a ride in
Peterson's squad car. But he says he will allow Schori to testify
about their conversations in coffee shops in the months leading

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up to her disappearance.

Under a recent state law that has become known as Drew's


Law, prosecutors can use normally inadmissable hearsay
testimony -- evidence outside the direct knowledge of a witness
-- if prosecutors can prove a defendant may have killed a
witness to prevent them from testifying.

Schori's testimony plays a key in role in the prosecution's case,


which relies heavily on hearsay statements Stacy Peterson and
Savio allegedly made.

In testimony Tuesday, Stacy's maternal aunt said her niece was


desperate to leave Peterson in the weeks leading up to her
disappearance. Candace Aikin testified that Stacy wanted to
leave but did not know how she would support her children if
they divorced.

She had been drinking more and was on antidepressants, her


aunt said. Aikin also said Stacy complained of trouble sleeping
because Peterson kept waking her to ask if she had been
cheating on him.

"'I wish Drew would hit me so I could get out,'" Aikin said Stacy
Peterson had told her in early October 2007. "'I feel stuck.'"

Aikin recounted a troubling visit the Petersons paid to her


Southern California home in January 2007. While visiting a
family friend's house, Peterson bragged that he could kill
someone and get away with it because of his police training.

"'Not this chickie,'" Aikin recalled a visibly upset Stacy


responding.

The couple fought during much of the trip, becoming so angry


with one another at one point that Aikin asked if they wanted to
be married anymore.

When both said they did, she encouraged them to "hold each
other and ask forgiveness."

"Please forgive me for burdening you with my past," Aikin


recalled Drew saying.

Aikin said she did not remember what Stacy said.

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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind

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of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme


Court

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GC Marciano Peterson 'unusual' just after wife vanished, court told


Copwatcher Extraordinaire January 27, 2010 8:38 PM

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...reaking+News%29

On the day his wife was reported missing, Drew Peterson


referred to her in the past tense, would not let state police
search their home or cars for evidence and repeatedly bragged
about his sex life, an Illinois State Police special agent testified
today in Will County court.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois "I thought it was very unusual and awkward," said special agent
Posts: 9967 Patrick Callaghan, who was asked to recount his initial
interviews with Peterson in the days after Stacy Peterson's Oct.
28, 2007, disappearance. "I think that it was his attempt to
ease the situation."

Callaghan's testimony came during the second week of a


pretrial hearing on whether certain hearsay statements can be
heard in the murder trial against Drew Peterson, 56. Though he
is charged with killing his third wife, Kathleen Savio, much of
the testimony so far has involved the disappearance of his
fourth wife, Stacy.

Peterson, a former Bolingbrook police sergeant, is the sole


suspect in Stacy's disappearance but has not been charged.
Judge Stephen White said the Rev. Neil Schori, a pastor whose
testimony is expected to connect both cases, will take the stand
Friday.

On Wednesday, Callaghan testified that during the first


interview with Peterson on Oct. 29, hours after Stacy's sister
had reported her missing to police, Peterson said Stacy had
called him the night before to say she was leaving with another
man and had dropped her car, a Pontiac Grand Prix, at nearby
Clow Airport.

Callaghan said he asked Peterson how he got the car back


home, a question that "caught him off guard."

Peterson paused for a couple of seconds, Callaghan said, then

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answered, "Can you believe that?" Peterson said Stacy told him
she had left the keys on the floorboard and the doors unlocked.

Peterson wouldn't allow police to search either of his two


vehicles, only opening the trunk of the Grand Prix, Callaghan
said. He also refused to allow a search of his home, only
permitting a crime-scene investigator to walk through -- with
Peterson at his side -- to confirm Stacy wasn't there, Callaghan
said.

Phone records show Peterson had conversations with his


stepbrother Thomas Morphey in the weeks before Stacy
disappeared, Callaghan said. But Peterson told police on Nov. 1
that he hadn't spoken with Morphey in two weeks. Morphey has
testified he helped Peterson move a barrel he believes
contained Stacy's body on Oct. 28.

Callaghan said Peterson repeatedly referred to his wife in the


past tense, such as "she was a good mom," or "she was a hot
23-year-old." He admitted that he was possessive of his much-
younger wife, Callaghan said.

Callaghan said Peterson told the officers that he and Stacy were
having marital problems, but that their fights coincided with
Stacy's menstrual cycle, and that they would always make up
and "have great sex" afterward.

He said Peterson brought up, unasked, the couple's sex life


three or four times during the interview, something he found
"awkward."

In 2002, then-Will County Assistant State's Attorney Elizabeth


Fragale received an impassioned letter from Savio asking for
help and alleging Peterson had attacked her. Fragale left the
state's attorney's office in 2004, the same year Savio was found
dead, and was prosecuting two domestic battery charges filed
against Savio.

Fragale testified Wednesday that Peterson repeatedly sought to


have Savio "prosecuted to the full extent" -- once coming to her
office in uniform unannounced -- and said she got the
impression Peterson wanted to use the charges as leverage in
his divorce battle.

A woman who testified she had a 9-month affair with Peterson


while he was married to Savio said he told her in 1998 that he
didn't want to get divorced because his wife would take half his
pension.

Susan McCauley, who at the time was a bartender at Peterson's


Montgomery pub, said Peterson told her that he and a friend
were on a "street death squad," adding, "if you ever needed
anyone taken care of."

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Peterson, wearing a plaid suit in court, laughed when McCauley


testified that the only gift she received during the affair was a
"very cheap necklace."

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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Night Raven Drew Peterson Trial: Pathologist: Fox News producer helped with Savio
Senior Member autopsy (IL)

Pathologist: Fox News producer helped with Savio autopsy


(IL)

February 19, 2010 4:40 PM

--Steve Schmadeke, Stacy St. Clair


Registered: May 2008
Location:
Posts: 4812 http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...-end-today.html

Drew Peterson's defense today tore into a prominent pathologist


who declared that Peterson's third wife was killed, contending he
was determined to reach the conclusion to please his bosses at Fox
News.

During cross-examination, Michael Baden acknowledged that a


producer for Fox News host Greta Van Susteren helped him with the
autopsy on Kathleen Savio by taking photos and moving the body.

"One always needs an assistant during an autopsy and there was


no one else available," Baden said under questioning by Peterson's
attorney, Joel Brodsky.

Baden had testified earlier that he believes Savio was beaten up

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and then placed in the bathtub, where her attacker drowned her.
Bruises to her body support his theory, Baden said.

The defense tried to downplay the bruises by suggesting they were


the result of rough sex or clumsiness. While Baden conceded some
could have been made that way, a few -- particularly a hemorrhage
of the diaphragm -- was the result of blunt force trauma.

"You can get a lot of injuries from rough sex, but a hemorrhage of
the diaphragm is not one of them," Baden said.

Under questioning by prosecutors, Baden had said it was highly


unlikely for a healthy adult to drown in the bathtub. But when
pressed by the defense, he conceded that it was equally rare for
healthy adults to be killed in a bathtub.

"They're neck and neck," Baden said.

Savio's death was initially ruled an accident in 2004. After


Peterson's fourth wife, Stacy, disappeared in 2007, Savio's body
was exhumed. Baden was asked by her family to perform an
autopsy.

In addition to Baden's testimony today, Will County Assistant


State's Atty. John Connor testified that Drew Peterson killed Stacy
to prevent her from testifying against him in divorce proceedings.

The testimonies from Baden and Connor were the culmination of


three weeks of testimony in a hearsay hearing in Peterson's murder
case. The hearing is to determine what hearsay evidence --
including statements prosecutors contend Savio made -- Judge
Stephen White will allow a jury to hear.

Much of the testimony has been from nearly 70 witnesses witnesses


called to bolster prosecutors' contention that Savio's death was a
homicide and not an accident as it was originally ruled.

Peterson, a former Bolingbrook police sergeant, is charged with first-


degree murder in connection with Savio's death. He is also a
suspect in the disappearance of Stacy Peterson.

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a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live
peacefully. We are not just whores for power and oil, but killer
whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
--Dr. Hunter S. Thompson, Kingdom of Fear (2003)

"Society had a crime problem, so it hired cops. Next thing society


knew, it had a cop problem."

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GC Marciano Drew Peterson's murder trial could be delayed 2 months


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Defense attorneys ask for more time to add lawyers and expert
witnesses to study complicated forensic evidence

By Karen Sorensen, Special to the Tribune


May 29, 2010

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...0,6401721.story

Defense attorneys Friday asked for a two-month delay in Drew


Registered: Jul 2003 Peterson's murder trial, saying they've had to bring in additional
Location: Chicago, Illinois lawyers to deal with the complicated forensic evidence and four
Posts: 9967 new expert witnesses.

The June 14 trial date was set in February. The request for a
postponement until Aug. 23 irritated Will County Judge Stephen
White.

"I have two weeks totally blocked off on my schedule (for the
June trial)," said White, who will rule Wednesday on the
continuance motion. "I've also had jurors on call since October
who were given these dates."

Peterson, a retired Bolingbrook police sergeant, is accused of


murdering his third wife, Kathleen Savio, who was found
drowned in her bathtub in 2004. His fourth wife, Stacy
Peterson, has been missing since 2007.

State's Attorney James Glasgow told the judge he would not


fight the defense's request.

The defense is also asking that state prosecutors obtain all


written documents and untelevised video from the appearance
of Dr. Michael Baden on Fox News. At the request of Savio's
family and with the assistance of Fox News, Baden did the
second Savio autopsy that determined the woman had been
murdered rather than accidentally drowned, as had been the
original pathologist's finding.

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Night Raven Ill. police probe lead on Drew Peterson's 4th wife
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Ill. police probe lead on Drew Peterson's 4th wife

The Associated Press

Saturday, June 5, 2010 3:47 PM EDT

http://www.charter.net/news/read.ph...ewsDCC_article4
Registered: May 2008
Location:
Posts: 4812 PEORIA, Ill. (AP) — Investigators searched a muddy stretch of
remote central Illinois on Saturday for the remains of the fourth
wife of Drew Peterson, the former suburban Chicago police officer
awaiting trial for the murder of his previous spouse.

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Drew Peterson, 56, is a suspect in the disappearance and possible


slaying of Stacy Peterson, who was 23 when she was last seen in
October 2007. No one has been charged in the case, and her body
has never been found.

Drew Peterson is charged with first-degree murder in the 2004


death of his third wife, Kathleen Savio, whose body was found in a
dry bathtub at her home. He's pleaded not guilty to the charges.
Jury selection in the trial is set for next month. He's being held in
isolation at the Will County Jail.

State police and other law enforcement agencies searched rural


land "thick with timber" near Peoria for signs of Stacy Peterson,
said state police Master Sgt. Tom Burek.

Rains have reduced the land to a "muddy mess," meaning that


parts are inaccessible by vehicle and investigators have had to
search the area on foot, Burek said.

Investigators called off the search Saturday evening, sending home


an archaeologist who'd been called in to help with the digging,
Burek said. Crews could be on the scene Sunday.

He wouldn't say when the search began or how large the search
area is. He also wouldn't confirm where the lead came from or how
credible police thought it might be.

"We follow up on every lead," he said.

Investigators have pursued several tips about Stacy Peterson's


disappearance over the years, including sending divers into murky
Chicago-area waters.

Drew Peterson's attorney, Joel Brodsky, called the most recent


search "patently ridiculous."

"Drew's position from day one has always been that she ran off with
another man, because that's what she told him," Brodsky said.
"This is just another in a long line of unsubstantiated rumors about
Drew Peterson, all of which have proved to be false."

Copyright 2010 The Associated Press.


Original Article can be found at:

http://www.charter.net/news/read.ph...=&cps=0&lang=en

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whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
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GC Marciano Cops May Have Found Body of Drew Peterson's Wife


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Originally posted Jun 4th 2010 9:52 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/04/drew-...r-illinois-dig/

There may be a huge break in the disappearance of Drew


Peterson's fourth wife. TMZ has learned authorities believe they
may know exactly where the body is buried, and then plan to
dig for it tomorrow.

Registered: Jul 2003 Law enforcement sources tell TMZ ... Peterson, an ex-cop who
Location: Chicago, Illinois is currently behind bars awaiting trial for the murder of his third
Posts: 9967 wife, told an inmate yesterday how he killed Stacy Peterson,
wife number 4. Stacy's body has never been recovered.

Our sources say Peterson told the inmate he had an accomplice


help him dispose of the body. The inmate then told authorities
about his discussion with Peterson, which led them to the
alleged accomplice. We're told the accomplice informed Will
County Sheriff's officials and prosecutors that the body was
buried just outside Peoria, Illinois.

Will County Sheriff's deputies and prosecutors took the alleged


accomplice to Peoria Friday, and the accomplice led them to
private hunting grounds. The owner allowed authorities to enter
his property and the accomplice then led them to the site where
Stacy's body was allegedly buried. The accomplice told
authorities the body was stuffed in a metal drum that had been
buried underground.

On Friday afternoon, authorities brought police dogs onto the


property and we're told the dogs immediately took them to the
place where the witness said the body was buried. Authorities
then put prongs in the soil and hit a mass below ground that
could be the drum in question.

We're told State Police are now guarding the property and
authorities will begin digging Saturday morning.

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UPDATE 6/5 10:00 AM PT -- State Police confirm the search


is underway.

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Copwatcher Extraordinaire Originally posted Jun 5th 2010 2:16 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

http://www.tmz.com/person/drew-peterson/

TMZ has obtained photos of the scene where authorities are


searching for the remains of Drew Peterson's fourth wife, Stacy
Peterson.

Cops have taped off a section on private hunting ground in


Registered: Jul 2003 Peoria, IL. It appears officials have set up a tent inside the
Location: Chicago, Illinois restricted area.
Posts: 9967
As we previously reported, cops received a tip that Peterson
and an accomplice buried his fourth wife Stacy inside of a metal
drum on the hunting grounds.

UPDATE: Authorities called off the search for the day at around
6:00 PM local time.

Attachment: 0605-peterson-buried-tmz-ex-credit.jpg
This has been downloaded 23 time(s).

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huckabuck001 Just my opinion (as a side note)...


Senior Member

I have a real hard time comprehending the choice of linguistics


Registered: Feb 2007
these journalists use when reporting on corrupt cops - this guy,
Location: Florida
Posts: 577 Drew Peterson, was an ACTIVE cop when this story broke, and it
was reported as such at the time. But now, since he's lot his 'job' as
a result of the charges filed against him, the press keeps referring
to him as an "ex-police officer" as though he became a bad apple
AFTER he was employed as a swine. The press should ALWAYS refer
to ANY scumbag cop who committed such a horrendous crime
WHILE they were a cop as such. Every news story about such a POS
cop should start, "(cops name and rank) who was an active duty
LEO with (departments name/location) at the date and time of the
crime was committed, and lost his job as a result of his criminal
activity..."

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quote:

Just my opinion (as a side note)...


I have a real hard time comprehending the choice of
linguistics these journalists use when reporting on
corrupt cops - this guy, Drew Peterson, was an ACTIVE
cop when this story broke, and it was reported as such
Registered: May 2008 at the time. But now, since he's lot his 'job' as a result
Location:
of the charges filed against him, the press keeps
Posts: 4812
referring to him as an "ex-police officer" as though he
became a bad apple AFTER he was employed as a
swine. The press should ALWAYS refer to ANY scumbag
cop who committed such a horrendous crime WHILE
they were a cop as such. Every news story about such

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a POS cop should start, "(cops name and rank) who


was an active duty LEO with (departments name/
location) at the date and time of the crime was
committed, and lost his job as a result of his criminal
activity..."

Like yourself, I dislike/distrust journalism that fails to call a


scumbag cop a scumbag cop. The press goes into a feeding frenzy
whenever a normal citizen is arrested, usually flooding the news
with a $hitstorm of pro-police propaganda that attempts to discredit
the arrested person in any way they can. Being that most
mainstream journalists depend upon sucking up to police "sources"
for their tidbits of misinformation, lies, wild speculation, and just
plain bull$****, they are not wont to "bite the co&k from which
they suck" for fear of being deprived of future "news". It's always
been easier for journalists to never question the police and their
usually illegal activities--or risk losing an important source of gossip
for future "news" articles.

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GC Marciano Stacy Peterson Search Suspended As Authorities Need


Copwatcher Extraordinaire 'More Sophisticated Equipment'
First Posted: 06- 6-10 02:41 PM | Updated: 06- 6-10 03:04 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/...s_n_602184.html

Following up on a "credible lead," police spent the day Saturday


digging at a farm near Peoria, Illinois, looking for the remains of
the missing Stacy Peterson.

Registered: Jul 2003 After a full day's search turned up nothing, authorities said they
Location: Chicago, Illinois would return later in the week with "more sophisticated
Posts: 9967 equipment."

The development comes as Drew Peterson, Stacy's husband and


a former Bolingbrook police officer, prepares to stand trial for
the murder of his third wife, Kathleen Savio. Savio was found
drowned in a bathtub in 2004, a death that was initially ruled an
accident. But when Stacy Peterson went missing, the Savio
investigation was re-opened and ruled a murder.

Prosecutors have long alleged that Peterson murdered Stacy


because of what she knew about his previous wife's death. But
without a body, the ex-cop can't be charged in that case.

This latest flurry of activity in the search for Stacy Peterson


comes just a month before the Savio trial is set to begin, a fact
which angers the defense. From the Chicago Tribune:

"They're trying to dirty up the defendant with an irrelevant


search," attorney Joel Brodsky said. "It's a despicable tactic."

Brodsky, who spoke to Peterson on Saturday, described his


client as "upbeat, confident and looking forward to trial."

But police say the lead they're pursuing is credible. TMZ.com


reported that Peterson told a fellow inmate where he buried
Stacy's body, but both the authorities and the Peterson defense
team deny that story, pointing out that Peterson has been held
in isolation.

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Navigatr1 Peterson's defense questions Fox News autopsy


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Peterson's defense questions Fox News autopsy


http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...ws-autopsy.html

Registered: Jul 2003 June 30, 2010 12:05 AM | No Comments | UPDATED STORY
Location:
Posts: 31403 Drew Peterson's defense team is seeking to bar a renowned
pathologist from serving as a prosecution witness after finding a
telephone number for "Girls Gone Wild" producer Joe Francis in
notes related to an autopsy, the Tribune has learned.

The defense long has shown disdain for the autopsy, which Dr.
Michael Baden performed on Peterson's third wife, Kathleen Savio,
in 2007, at the behest of both her relatives and the Fox News
Channel.

But after finding the reference to Francis in the materials and being
unable to find video footage from the procedure, Peterson's
attorneys submitted a motion calling the autopsy "irretrievably
compromised."
Though the prosecution's case doesn't hinge on Baden's testimony,
his sterling reputation would add heft to allegations that Peterson
drowned his wife in her bathtub in 2004. In addition to working on
the O.J. Simpson and Phil Spector murder trials, he is the host of
the HBO series "Autopsy."

Baden called Savio's death a homicide, saying he believed she had


been beaten, then drowned. A state-hired pathologist reached a
similar conclusion.

Baden, however, raised eyebrows at a pretrial hearing this year


when he testified that Steph Watts, a freelance producer for "On
the Record" with Greta Van Susteren at the time, assisted him with
the autopsy by helping move the body and taking pictures.

Watts, who says he videotaped Baden during the autopsy, has


denied touching the body. In a phone interview with the Tribune on
Tuesday, Watts said he also took dictation from the pathologist
during the procedure.

"He didn't have anybody else to help," Watts said.

Watts said he had Francis' number in his notes because he was


working on a story about the entrepreneur's legal troubles at the

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time. Watts said he has since become friends with Francis, who
made millions selling videotapes of college-age girls baring their
breasts while on spring break.

"I'm almost surprised Steph Watts didn't do some of the incisions in


the autopsy," defense attorney Joel Brodsky said. "They weren't
just covering the news; this shows they were making the news."

Brodsky said in court that the defense has received three pages of
Watts' notes from the autopsy. Sources later told the Tribune that
on a page noting the weight of Savio's liver, Watts had written
down three telephone numbers, including Francis' personal cell
phone number.

Francis' publicist did not return calls seeking comment.

A Fox News spokeswoman said Watts, who no longer works for the
network, did not participate in the autopsy.

Both sides are precluded from discussing the contents of the sealed
motion, but Peterson attorney Steven Greenberg said the
circumstances surrounding the autopsy are troubling.

"The integrity of the autopsy is so flawed, the question is whether


this is a serious investigation or a reality show," Greenberg said.

The judge also seemed upset by the network's involvement with the
autopsy and has threatened to ban Baden if the footage cannot be
found. Baden, a Fox News analyst, has testified that the cable
outlet paid his expenses because Savio's family could not afford his
services.

Charles Pelkie, spokesman for Will County State's Attorney James


Glasgow, declined to comment.

Watts said prosecutors have subpoenaed him to testify before


Judge Stephen White next week so he can state under oath that the
actual autopsy was not videotaped. He expressed surprise that
defense attorneys were seizing on Francis' number in his notes.

Savio's body was exhumed after Peterson's fourth wife, Stacy,


disappeared in October 2007. Savio's death had initially been ruled
an accident, but authorities determined that she had been killed
after reopening the case.

Now a retired police sergeant, Peterson has not been charged in


Stacy's disappearance, though he remains a suspect. He denies
wrongdoing in both cases.

--Steve Schmadeke and Stacy St. Clair

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Navigatr1 Lawyers to seek Peterson's release during appeal


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http://www.kionrightnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=12768278

Registered: Jul 2003 Posted: Jul 07, 2010 11:44 AM PDT Updated: Jul 07, 2010 2:44 PM
Location: PDT
Posts: 31403
JOLIET, Ill. (AP) - Former police officer Drew Peterson's trial on
charges of killing his third wife will be delayed and he could be
released on bail while prosecutors appeal a judge's decision to
exclude evidence considered crucial to the case, attorneys said
Wednesday.

Jury selection was set to begin Thursday in Peterson's trial in the


2004 drowning death of ex-wife Kathleen Savio.

But Will County Judge Stephen White ruled Tuesday he would not
allow a jury to hear some hearsay - or second hand - evidence,
including statements Savio allegedly made to others. Such evidence
is considered crucial to the case because prosecutors have not yet
produced physical evidence linking Peterson to Savio's death,
firsthand witnesses or a confession.

State's Attorney James Glasgow didn't say exactly what hearsay


evidence was excluded. In talking about the appeal, he pointed to a
June 24 Illinois Supreme Court ruling that upheld the conviction of
a Naperville man in the 2005 slayings of four family members. The
court unanimously rejected the man's argument that hearsay
statements from his sister shouldn't be allowed.

"As State's Attorney, I am obligated to appeal the judge's ruling to


ensure that every legally admissible statement may be presented at
trial," Glasgow said in a written statement.

Peterson has pleaded not guilty to first-degree murder in Savio's

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death and has denied involvement in the disappearance of his


fourth wife, Stacy Peterson, who has not been seen since October
2007.

The appeal could mean Peterson will be released from jail. Glasgow
said Illinois law doesn't allow a defendant to be held during such an
appeal unless there are "compelling reasons" to do so, and
Peterson's attorneys said they'll seek his release.

Savio's death originally was ruled an accident after her body was
found in an empty bathtub. Her body was exhumed after Stacy
Peterson disappeared, and Savio's death was ruled a homicide.

Peterson wasarrested and charged in Savio's death in May 2009.


He's been named a suspect but not charged in Stacy Peterson's
disappearance.

Peterson's attorneys said the appeal didn't come as a surprise and


they believe the case eventually will be dismissed.

"They chickened out. They knew they didn't have a case," said
Joseph Lopez, one of Peterson's defense attorneys. "They're telling
the appellate court, we don't have a case without this hearsay."

Hearsay evidence - statements not based on a witness' direct


knowledge - are allowed in trials under a new state law if
prosecutors can prove a defendant may have killed a witness to
prevent him or her from testifying. The law was so closely linked to
the Peterson case that some have dubbed it "Drew's law."

A hearing was held earlier this year to determine what hearsay


evidence a jury would be allowed to hear.

A person familiar with the case told The Associated Press that
among the statements White ruled a jury can't hear was one from
Stacy Peterson's pastor, who said she told him she'd given Peterson
a false alibi the weekend of Savio's death. The person spoke on
condition of anonymity because the judge's orders have been
sealed.

That person said the pastor, Neil Schori, will still be allowed to
testify about other conversations with Stacy Peterson.

For example, Schori can testify Stacy Peterson told him of seeing
her husband, dressed all in black, dumping his clothes and women's
clothing that did not belong to Stacy into their washing machine the
night before Savio's body was found in her bathtub, the source said.

The person also said White ruled one of Savio's co-workers couldn't
testify. During the hearing to determine what hearsay testimony
would be allowed at trial, Issam Karam said Savio told him about a
night at her home when Peterson, armed with a knife, allegedly
grabbed her throat and told her there was nothing she could do to
protect herself from him.

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White did rule, however, that he would allow a letter to a then-


assistant state's attorney in which Savio outlined allegations that
Peterson has physically abused her. During the hearing, the former
prosecutor testified that she did not remember receiving the letter,
the source said.

But the appeal likely signals that the prosecution's case could be in
trouble, said Terry Sullivan, a Chicago attorney and former
prosecutor who has followed the case.

"It signals to me that without the hearsay they're in trouble,"


Sullivan said. "Now it's pretty well an admission that shows they
don't want to go to trial without that hearsay testimony. You can
read whatever you want into it."

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You Can Get 15 Years in Jail For Recording an On-Duty Cop in


Illinois (IL)

Posted By Joshua Holland On May 20, 2010 @ 5:50 pm In


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Last week, an Illinois judge rejected Chicago artist Christopher Drew’s
motion to dismiss the Class I felony charge against him. Drew is
charged with violating the state’s eavesdropping statute when he
recorded his encounter with a police officer last December on the
streets of Chicago. A Class I felony in Illinois is punishable by 4 to 15

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years in prison. It’s in the same class of crimes as sexual assault.


Drew will be back in court in June to request a jury trial.

That’s from a report by Radley Balko, the only reason to ever check
out Reason. Read the rest over there.

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quote:

Originally posted by Night Raven

That’s from a report by Radley Balko, the only


reason to ever check out Reason.

Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 Yup. I canceled (or rather, let lapse) my subscription to that
magazine two years ago when it became clear that it no longer
believes in the "free markets and free minds" that it claims in its
"mission statement." If you want to read Rad's articles on a
regular basis, they're readily available in any number of other
online publications, so you won't have to waste precious money
subsidizing Reason. (Yes, that's right, subsidizing. Editor-in-Chief
Nick Gillespie had begun sending out pathetic "beg-o-grams"
during the last year of my subscription urging his readers to

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"donate" to Reason, through the Stato, er, sorry, Cato Institute if


desired, in order to prop up the rag's saggy subscription rate.
Whassamatta, Nicky? Is the "free market" kicking your ass,
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jeremy1982 This is an issue i've dealth with first hand. I posted a video online of a
Junior Member cop violating the law, nearly running me over in the process of
breaking the law and I get told I'm being investigated for violating
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Junior Member clearly states it doesn't matter if there is a reasonable exectation of
privacy or not, that you can't record audio unless you get the consent
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Location: St Louis so you can't record the police without their consent.
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Gallatin County Sheriff Arrested


May 18, 2009 04:21 PM
By Zakk Gammon

http://www.kfvs12.com/global/story.asp?s=10382864

GALLATIN COUNTY, IL (KFVS) - Gallatin County, Illinois Sheriff


Registered: Jul 2003 Raymond M. Martin was arrested today on federal drug charges.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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46-year-old Martin is charged with three counts of Distribution
of Marijuana and two counts of Carrying a Firearm During and
in Relation to a Drug Trafficking Crime.

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The federal complaint says Martin conspired with a confidential


Drug Enforcement Administration source to distribute the drugs.

If convicted, each marijuana count carries a possible maximum


sentence of five years in prison. The first firearm count carries a
minimum of five years; the second carries a minimum of 25
years in prison. Both firearm counts have a maximum possible
penalty of life.

Martin will appear in U.S. Court in Benton, Illinois on


Wednesday at 1:15 p.m. CT. The investigation is on-going.

Raymond Monroe Martin


9400 Sawmill Rd.
Junction, IL 62954

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GC Marciano Gallatin County, Ill., sheriff arrested on federal drug


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Posted May 18, 2009 at 3:03 p.m.

http://www.courierpress.com/news/20...-federal-drug-/

SHAWNEETOWN, Ill. — The sheriff of Gallatin County, Ill., has


been arrested on federal drug charges in what prosecutors
describe as a scheme to distribute large quantities of marijuana.

Registered: Jul 2003 Gallatin County Sheriff Raymond M. Martin of Shawneetown,


Location: Chicago, Illinois Ill., faces three counts of distribution of marijuana and two
Posts: 9967 counts of carrying a firearm during and in relation to a drug
trafficking crime.

Martin was named in a five-count federal complaint alleging he


conspired with a confidential Drug Enforcement Administration

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source to distribute large quantities of marijuana.

In a 12-page complaint filed Monday in U.S. District Court at


Benton, Ill., federal prosecutors allege that Martin approached a
confidential source with the DEA about helping him distribute
large quantities of marijuana.

In an affidavit filed by a DEA agent, the agent stated that


"Martin stated the marijuana cost Martin $1,000 a pound and
explained to the confidential source that after the initial $1,000
per pound investment was paid to Martin by the confidential
source, Martin and the confidential source would split the profits
on a 50-50 basis."

The affidavit further states that "On two different occasions,


Martin delivered about 10 pounds of marijuana and on another
occasion, delivered approximately 20 pounds of marijuana to
the confidential source."

The alleged marijuana deliveries usually occurred at a rural and


remote location in southern Gallatin County, prosecutors stated.
Martin is accused of using his county-owned Ford Explorer to
complete the transactions.

A warrant was issued for Sheriff Martin's arrest on Sunday, and


he was taken into custody on Monday. FBI agents and other law
enforcements executed a search warrant at his home Monday
afternoon.

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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano Veteran Ill. sheriff accused of trafficking pot


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By JIM SUHR
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1..._marijuana.html

ST. LOUIS -- Sheriff Raymond M. Martin has been the law for
nearly 20 years in a struggling southern Illinois county. But
federal prosecutors say he's been breaking it lately by peddling
pounds of pot, some seized by his own department, often in
Registered: Jul 2003 uniform and from his patrol vehicle.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Authorities on Monday led away a handcuffed Martin, 46, from
his small Shawneetown office after his arrest on federal drug
trafficking charges accusing him of supplying a dealer he
threatened to kill when that man said he wanted out. The
Gallatin County sheriff also allegedly pledged to use his
authority to shut down rival drug traffickers.

"It's almost beyond belief," said Doug Maier, the sheriff in


neighboring White County. Maier called Martin "a pretty low-key
guy."

He continued, "Obviously, there was a different side that I've


never observed."

Martin was jailed pending a Wednesday detention hearing on


three counts of marijuana distribution and two counts of
carrying a firearm, his service weapon, while trafficking drugs.
He could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

A woman who answered his home telephone refused to


comment, and Martin's court-appointed public defender did not
immediately return messages.

Martin's job status was unclear Tuesday. Calls to Gallatin


County Chairman Randy Drone rang unanswered, while calls to
the sheriff's department rolled over to a neighboring dispatch
center, which regularly answers calls when no deputies are in
Martin's office. No one would say the exact size of Martin's
department, other than to say it's small.

Martin's popularity in the county surrounding Shawneetown -


boasting little more than a courthouse, a couple of convenience
stores and Rudy's barbecue restaurant - swept the Democrat to
re-election four times since he took office in 1990.

A criminal complaint accuses him of distributing more than two


pounds of marijuana between April 27 and May 11. But an
affidavit by Glenn Rountree, an investigator with the Drug
Enforcement Administration, suggests Martin's dealings were
many times that total.

In a blow-by-blow account painting a picture of a good cop gone

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bad, Rountree wrote that Martin hatched a marijuana-dealing


scheme in November with the drug dealer who later got cold
feet.

At that time, Martin handed the dealer, unidentified in court


papers, two pounds of pot and asked if the man could "get rid
of that" for the sheriff, who promised he'd use his power to
protect him if he ever got caught selling. If the dealer didn't
comply, Rountree wrote, Martin said he could "make up" a
crime against him.

From then until early last month, Martin brought 1- or 2-pound


amounts of marijuana on average once every couple of weeks
to a rural, secluded meeting spot, Rountree wrote. But the
sheriff twice brought 10 pounds and brought 20 pounds another
time, according to the affidavit.

The meetings between the two were arranged by cell phone,


with the dealer using vague code words Martin supplied to
confuse possible eavesdroppers, including investigators,
Rountree wrote.

The dealer grew unsettled over time and wanted out, but Martin
would have none of that, Rountree wrote. At least twice, the
sheriff pulled his service revolver and insisted emphatically to
the dealer that making him "disappear" would be "that easy,"
according to the affidavit.

Rountree suggested the twitchy dealer went to investigators


April 9. Over the next several weeks, authorities taped the
dealer's conversations with Martin and tracked the sheriff's
county-issued Ford Expedition.

At least once, Rountree alleged, the sheriff gave the informant


marijuana seeds, saying he could pare his debt to the sheriff by
growing pot plants for him.

And the sheriff dispensed advice, cautioning the man that it'd
be "silly" for the dealer to get drunk or use pills and "mess it
up" because "we got a good thing going."

"(You) won't even have to work and stuff," Rountree said Martin
once told the snitch.

Such profit could be particularly attractive in Gallatin County,


where the population has slowly eroded in recent decades as
many of the region's coal mines closed. Its 9 percent
unemployment rate is typical in the region. The median
household income, according to 2000 Census Bureau figures, is
$26,118.

Martin's county salary was not immediately available, but he


received his $6,500 annual stipend from the state this month.

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The area received statewide attention in 2005, when a story by


the (Arlington Heights) Daily Herald noted that the tiny county
with little violent crime was getting more homeland security
funding per person - more than $300,000 - than any other in
Illinois.

The article noted Martin spent "most days battling a thriving


methamphetamine trade."

Allegations that Martin himself was dabbling in drugs left locals


rattled, in many cases leaving them publicly reticent Tuesday.
Still, many there remained in Martin's camp.

"I thought the world of that boy," said Roberta Tarrence, a 78-
year-old widow with a quilting business near the county
courthouse. "I've known him all of his life, and I know he was a
good sheriff."

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GC Marciano Judge: monumental amount of evidence brought against


Copwatcher Extraordinaire sheriff facing drug charges
Posted: May 20, 2009 03:46 PM By Heartland News

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story....54&nav=menu51_2

BENTON, IL (KFVS) - The Gallatin County Sheriff appeared in


court Wednesday facing federal drug charges.

The judge says a monumental amount of evidence was brought


Registered: Jul 2003 against the sheriff.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Raymond Martin, 46, is charged with three counts of
Distribution of Marijuana and two counts of Carrying a Firearm
During and in Relation to a Drug Trafficking Crime.

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Evidence was brought against Sheriff Martin alleging that the


leaves of 30-40 pounds of marijuana seized in drug cases
were missing from the Gallatin County evidence locker.

Other evidence brought against Martin allege different amounts


of U.S. currency seized during drug raids were also
missing.

Authorities say $107,000 in cash was found in a safe in


Martin's home during a search Monday as well as numerous
firearms, including a gun listed as stolen from a Gallatin
County home in 2000.

Martin is being held without bond.

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GC Marciano Gallatin County Sheriff Appears In Court


Copwatcher Extraordinaire 5:56 pm CT May 20, 2009.

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=7496&type=top

BENTON -- Sheriff Raymond Martin was denied bail Wednesday


by a federal judge. He'll remain in jail throughout his court
proceedings. The long time sheriff of Gallatin County is accused
of distributing marijuana while on duty, in uniform and carrying
his gun.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Martin was the only person in Gallatin County who had a
Posts: 9967 key to the evidence storage facility. When investigators
searched that facility they say several bags that were
supposed to hold marijuana were empty. And they found
new bags full of marijuana that appeared to be fresh.

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Though no one else in the county knew where the pot


came from.

According to the financial affidavit Martin filled out after he was


arrested, the house he lives in with his wife and five kids
is valued at three hundred thousand dollars. Martin and
his wife bring in a total of just more than 50 thousand
dollars a year. But investigators say Martin has never had
to pay a mortgage or any loans on this house and when
they searched the home they found more than 100
thousand dollars in a safe.

Martin was transported by Jackson County Jailers and he'll


remain in jail throughout his court case. During the hearing
prosecutors presented photos of Martin in his sheriff's uniform,
driving his patrol vehicle and handling large amounts of
marijuana.

Investigators say money was also missing from the


evidence storage facility. And that Martin told a confidential
source he would "put the fear of god" into competing drug
dealers in Gallatin County. Even threatening to kill the
confidential source if he ever turned on him.

Martin's family were in court. The judge told his family they
should continue to support Martin, because this will be a very
stressful time.

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PDF Document Attached
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Download the US Attorney's Media Release in PDF format


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Location: Chicago, Illinois __________________
Posts: 9967

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liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by GC505

Investigators say money was also missing


from the evidence storage facility. And that
Martin told a confidential source he would
"put the fear of god" into competing drug
dealers in Gallatin County. Even threatening to
kill the confidential source if he ever turned on
him.
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865

This makes me wonder whose toes Martin stepped on, or who


within the Illinois political machine or the fedgov he neglected
to pay off or whose ass he neglected to kiss. After all, senior p!
gs all across the country do this sort of thing all the time with
impunity. The fact that he's being singled out tells me that he's
made his way onto some powerful politician/gangster's sh!t list.

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"Oink If You Hate Freedom"

"And this brings us to a point that has to be driven home with


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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
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GC Marciano Judge denies bond for jailed sheriff


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Becky Malkovich, The Southern
Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:29 PM CDT

http://www.southernillinoisan.com/a...ge/28993391.txt

BENTON - Gallatin County's top cop will remain jailed on drug


and weapon charges after a federal judge denied his release
Wednesday.

Registered: Jul 2003 Sheriff Raymond M. Martin, 46, is charged with three counts of
Location: Chicago, Illinois distribution of marijuana and two counts of carrying a firearm
Posts: 9967 during and in relation to drug trafficking.

Martin appeared Wednesday in federal court in Benton for a

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preliminary hearing, where evidence for the charges was


presented to Magistrate Judge Phillip M. Frazier.

Illinois State Police Inspector Glenn H. Rountree was the sole


witness for the prosecution and gave his testimony in front of a
courtroom packed on one side with family and friends of the
longtime sheriff.

Martin, who was arrested Monday at his office in Shawneetown,


was the subject of an investigation sparked by a confidential
source who allegedly was in the marijuana-dealing business
with Martin, Rountree said under questioning by Assistant U.S.
Attorney James M. Cutchin.

Rountree told the court of audio, video, ground and air


surveillance evidence that reportedly shows Martin and the
source exchanging money for marijuana, as well as records
Martin discussing the marijuana distribution business with the
source.

The court also was told of search warrants executed in


connection with the investigation, including one at the Martin
residence, with an assessed valuation of at least $150,000. The
house has no liens or mortgages attached, Rountree said.

Martin has a take-home pay of about $2,400 a month while his


wife takes home less than $2,000 from her job.

During a search of the residence, investigators found more than


$100,000 in cash and several weapons, including a rifle that
was reported stolen by the sheriff's office in 2000.

A search of the sheriff's office revealed items missing from


evidence bags such as marijuana and cash, Rountree said.
Martin was the only person to have access to the evidence
room, he said.

After evidence was presented, Frazier said the prosecution


established probable cause. A grand jury indictment is expected
before a trial date is set, he said.

Frazier also ordered Martin remain in custody.

"I don't know you, Mr. Martin, but based on everything


presented, there is a trust factor," Frazier said after arguments
were presented for and against his release.

"You solemnly swore to uphold the laws of the state of Illinois,"


Frazier said. "When you did that, you were bestowed with one
of the greatest trusts our society gives people. It is a mighty
responsibility and a tremendous trust was placed in you. What
was presented here is a monumental breach of that trust."

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano BREAKING NEWS: Federal grand jury indicts Gallatin


Copwatcher Extraordinaire County sheriff
Carmi Times
Tue Jun 02, 2009, 04:38 PM CDT

http://www.carmitimes.com/news/x117...-County-sheriff

Benton, Ill. -

Registered: Jul 2003 A federal grand jury has returned an indictment charging
Location: Chicago, Illinois Gallatin County Sheriff Raymond M. Martin, 46, of Junction, with
Posts: 9967 three counts of distribution of marijuana and two counts of
carrying a firearm during and in relation to a drug trafficking
crime.

Martin was previously charged with those offenses in a criminal


complaint filed by the United States Attorney's Office May 17,
said A. Courtney Cox, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern
District of Illinois.

An indictment is a formal charge against a defendant. Under the


law, a defendant is presumed to be innocent of a charge until
proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt to the satisfaction of a
jury.

Martin was arrested without incident at his office May 18,


pursuant to the Criminal Complaint. He was subsequently
denied bond and remanded to the custody of the U.S. Marshal.

If convicted, each of the marijuana counts carries a possible


maximum sentence of five years' imprisonment, a fine of
$250,000 and a term of supervised release of at least two years
following any term of incarceration. The first firearm count

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carries a minimum penalty of five years' imprisonment, which


must be served consecutively to any sentence on the drug
counts, a fine of up to $250,000 and up to five years supervised
release.

The second firearm count carries a minimum penalty of 25


years' imprisonment, which must be served consecutively to the
sentences imposed on all other counts, a fine of up to $250,000
and up to five years supervised release.

Both firearm counts have a maximum possible penalty of life.

The on-going investigation is being led by the Carmi office of


the Southern Illinois Drug Task Force and Illinois State Police, in
conjunction with the United States Drug Enforcement
Administration, the Internal Revenue Service and the Mt.
Vernon, Ill. Police Department.

The case is being prosecuted by Assistant United States


Attorney James M. Cutchin of Carmi.

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huckabuck001 Illinois county: Indicted sheriff won't lose job


Senior Member

By JIM SUHR, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 29 mins ago


Registered: Feb 2007 ST. LOUIS – A southern Illinois sheriff charged with trafficking
Location: Florida
Posts: 577 marijuana, including while on duty, will not lose his job unless he's
convicted or resigns, county officials said Wednesday.
Federal agents arrested Gallatin County Sheriff Raymond Martin,
46, last month at his office on three counts of marijuana
distribution and two counts of carrying a firearm — his service
weapon — while trafficking drugs. A grand jury in Benton, Ill.,
indicted Martin on the charges Tuesday.
County Board Chairman Randy Drone said that, as an elected
official, Martin was legally entitled to keep his job and collect his
$40,440-a-year salary "until he resigns or is convicted." Martin,
whose seat is up for election next year, also got his $6,500 annual
stipend from the state last month.
"Obviously, it's an embarrassment to the county," Drone said of
Martin's legal troubles. But "we're just going on and dealing with it."
A message left Wednesday with Martin's public defender was not
immediately returned.
Shortly after Martin's arrest, one of his three deputies, Shannon
Bradley, was named interim sheriff.
Martin had been the law for nearly 20 years in the county by the
time investigators hauled him last month from his small office in
Shawneetown, a burg with little more than a courthouse, a couple
of convenience stores and a barbecue restaurant.
The Democrat won re-election four times since he took office in
1990.
But federal prosecutors claim he supplied a drug dealer and then
threatened to kill him when the man said he wanted out, and
allegedly pledged to use his authority to shut down rival drug
traffickers.
An affidavit by a Drug Enforcement Administration investigator
alleges Martin and the dealer hatched the marijuana-dealing
scheme last November.
When the unidentified dealer grew unsettled and wanted out, Martin
at least twice pulled his service revolver and insisted that making
him "disappear" would be "that easy," according to the affidavit.
After the dealer went to investigators, authorities recorded Martin's
conversations with the dealer and tracked the sheriff's county-
issued Ford Expedition. Investigators later found more than
$100,000 in a safe in Martin's home, as well as cash and drugs
missing from evidence bags in Martin's office.

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GC Marciano Illinois county: Indicted sheriff won't lose job


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By JIM SUHR

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...JRGwKwD98JE13O0

ST. LOUIS (AP) — A southern Illinois sheriff charged with


trafficking marijuana, including while on duty, will not lose his
job unless he's convicted or resigns, county officials said
Wednesday.

Registered: Jul 2003 Federal agents arrested Gallatin County Sheriff Raymond
Location: Chicago, Illinois Martin, 46, last month at his office on three counts of marijuana
Posts: 9967 distribution and two counts of carrying a firearm — his service
weapon — while trafficking drugs. A grand jury in Benton, Ill.,
indicted Martin on the charges Tuesday.

County Board Chairman Randy Drone said that, as an elected


official, Martin is legally entitled to keep his job and
collect his $40,440-a-year salary "until he resigns or is
convicted." Martin, whose seat is up for election next
year, also got his $6,500 annual stipend from the state
last month.

"Obviously, it's an embarrassment to the county," Drone said of


Martin's legal troubles. But "we're just going on and dealing
with it."

A message left Wednesday with Martin's public defender was


not immediately returned.

Shortly after Martin's arrest, one of his three deputies, Shannon


Bradley, was named interim sheriff.

Martin had been the law for nearly 20 years in the county by
the time investigators hauled him last month from his small
office in Shawneetown, a burg with little more than a
courthouse, a couple of convenience stores and a barbecue
restaurant.

The Democrat won re-election four times since he took office in


1990.

But federal prosecutors claim he supplied a drug dealer and


then threatened to kill him when the man said he wanted out,
and allegedly pledged to use his authority to shut down rival
drug traffickers.

An affidavit by a Drug Enforcement Administration investigator


alleges Martin and the dealer hatched the marijuana-dealing
scheme last November.

When the unidentified dealer grew unsettled and wanted out,


Martin at least twice pulled his service revolver and insisted that
making him "disappear" would be "that easy," according to the

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affidavit.

After the dealer went to investigators, authorities recorded


Martin's conversations with the dealer and tracked the sheriff's
county-issued Ford Expedition. Investigators later found more
than $100,000 in a safe in Martin's home, as well as cash and
drugs missing from evidence bags in Martin's office.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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GC Marciano Sheriff Arraigned On Drug, Weapons Charges


Copwatcher Extraordinaire 6/4/09:

http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/loca...fIhV8NvGyA.cspx

BENTON, IL - Gallatin Co. Sheriff Raymond Martin pleaded not


guilty Thursday to federal drug charges. Martin remains the
Sheriff, but is in jail. He was formally arraigned Thursday
afternoon in U.S. District Court in Benton, Ill.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois The Gallatin Co. Sheriff is charged with five counts. Those
Posts: 9967 include three counts of distributing marijuana, and two counts
of carrying a firearm while committing the crimes. The two
firearm counts carry a maximum life sentence.

A grand jury indicted Martin earlier this week. Federal agents


first arrested Martin on May 18, and have held him in custody
since that time.

Prosecutors say martin sold marijuana from his county-issued


SUV. He is accused of getting the drugs from the evidence
locker and contacts spanning from Chicago to Memphis.
Prosecutors also argue Martin used that money to help pay for
his $350,000 Junction, Ill., home.

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The courtroom was virtually empty Thursday; quite a


contrast to Martin's first appearance on May 20, 2009.
Then, family and friends filled the courtroom.

Martin returns to court July 23, and is scheduled to head to trial


August 3, 2009.

Raymond Martin will remain Sheriff of Gallatin County up until


he is found guilty of wrongdoing. If that happens, Illinois law
calls for the Gallatin County Coroner to fill the rest of the term.

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GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by GC505
The courtroom was virtually empty Thursday;
quite a contrast to Martin's first appearance
on May 20, 2009. Then, family and friends
filled the courtroom.

Registered: Jul 2003 Perhaps his friends and family have finally realized that
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
Raymond Martin is nothing but a piece of shit, and they have
appropriately discarded him as such.

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06-09-2009 07:18 PM

huckabuck001 GC505,
Senior Member

If you recall my ordeal here on COPWATCH, the Kim Bath/Josh


Registered: Feb 2007 Smith fiasco, that is exactly what happened with those two... From
Location: Florida
Posts: 577 the time Josh Smith lost his position as a Joplin, Missouri pig, their
WHOLE family had abandoned them in the court room...

I guess it's kinda hard to show your face in public when your heros
costume is removed, and all that sit's before you is a bucket of shit
- minus the bucket...

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06-09-2009 07:33 PM

GC Marciano Exactly. When the uniform is removed from the turd and it is
Copwatcher Extraordinaire publicly exposed as the true piece of shit it is, even it's family
hides in shame.

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Registered: Jul 2003
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Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Posts: 9967
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06-09-2009 09:15 PM

GC Marciano Gallatin County Sheriff Raymond Martin is currently being held


Copwatcher Extraordinaire without bond in the Jackson County Jail located at 1001
Mulberry Street in Murphysboro, IL:

Offender ID: 20091308


Offender Name: RAYMOND MONROE MARTIN
Date of Birth: 05/26/1962
Age: 47
Custody Status: In Custody
Registered: Jul 2003 Location of Offender: Jackson County Jail
Location: Chicago, Illinois Race: White
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Gender: Male

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07-19-2009 01:31 AM

GC Marciano Gallatin County sheriff faces even more charges.


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Posted: Sep 24, 2009 7:27 PM CDT
By Heartland News

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=11195456

GALLATIN COUNTY, IL (KFVS) - The Gallatin County sheriff


faces even more charges.

A federal grand jury indicted 46-year old Raymond Martin on


Registered: Jul 2003 three additional counts of distribution of marijuana, two counts
Location: Chicago, Illinois of carrying a firearm during a drug trafficking crime and one
Posts: 9967 count of conspiracy to distribute and possession with intent to
distribute marijuana.

Martin was arrested back in May on charges of marijuana

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distribution and carrying a firearm while trafficking drugs.

Martin was being held by the United States Marshals without


bond Thursday night.

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09-26-2009 07:28 AM

GC Marciano Sheriff faces new charges


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Thu Sep 24, 2009, 06:01 PM CDT

http://www.carmitimes.com/news/x178...ces-new-charges

A federal grand jury here returned a superseding indictment


Wednesday, charging Raymond M. Martin, 46, Junction, with
three counts of distribution of marijuana, two counts of carrying
a firearm during and in relation to a drug trafficking crime, and
one count of conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to
Registered: Jul 2003 distribute marijuana.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Martin, the elected sheriff of Gallatin County, was indicted June
2 by a grand jury sitting in Benton with the marijuana
distribution and firearms counts. The superseding indictment
added the conspiracy charge and alleges that the offense was
committed between November 2008 and May 18, 2009.

An indictment is a formal charge against a defendant. Under the


law, a defendant is presumed to be innocent of a charge until
proved guilty beyond a reasonable doubt to the satisfaction of a
jury.

Martin has been held without bail in the custody of the U.S.
Marshal since his arrest by federal agents on May 18.

If convicted, each of the marijuana counts carries a possible


maximum sentence of five years imprisonment, a fine of

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$250,000 and a term of supervised release of at least two years


following any term of incarceration. The first firearm count
carries a minimum penalty of five years imprisonment, which
must be served consecutively to any sentence on the drug
counts, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to five years
supervised release.

The second firearm count carries a minimum penalty of 25


years imprisonment, which must be served consecutively to the
sentences imposed on all other counts, a fine of up to $250,000
and up to five years supervised release. Both firearm counts
have a maximum possible penalty of life. The conspiracy count
carries a maximum term of imprisonment of five years, a
$250,000 fine and a term of supervised release of at least two
years.

The on-going investigation is being led by the Carmi office of


the Southern Illinois Drug Task Force and Illinois State Police, in
conjunction with the United States Drug Enforcement
Administration, the Internal Revenue Service and the Mt.
Vernon (Ill.) Police Department.

The case is being prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorney James


M. Cutchin of Carmi.

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GC Marciano News Release


Copwatcher Extraordinaire FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
September 25, 2009
Contact: Thomas E. Murphy
(314) 538-4660

Federal Grand Jury Returns Superseding Indictment


Against Gallatin
County Sheriff
September 25, 2009
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/state...ouis092509.html
Posts: 9967
SEP 25 -- (EAST ST. LOUIS, IL) A. Courtney Cox, United States
Attorney for the Southern District of Illinois, announced today
that a Federal Grand Jury sitting in East St. Louis returned a
Superseding Indictment on September 23, 2009, charging
Raymond M. MARTIN , age 46, of Junction, Illinois, with three
counts of Distribution of Marijuana, two counts of Carrying a
Firearm During and in Relation to a Drug Trafficking Crime, and
one count of conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to
distribute marijuana. MARTIN , who is the elected Sheriff of
Gallatin County, Illinois, previously charged by a Grand Jury
sitting in Benton on June 2, 2009, with the marijuana
distribution and firearms counts. The Superseding Indictment
added the conspiracy charge and alleges that the offense was
committed between November 2008 and May 18, 2009.

MARTIN has been held without bail in the custody of the United
States Marshal since his arrest by federal agents on May 18,
2009.

If convicted, each of the marijuana counts carries a possible


maximum sentence of five (5) years imprisonment, a fine of
$250,000, and a term of supervised release of at least two
years following any term of incarceration. The first firearm
count carries a minimum penalty of five (5) years
imprisonment, which must be served consecutively to any
sentence on the drug counts, a fine of up to $250,000, and up
to five years supervised release. The second firearm count
carries a minimum penalty of twenty-five (25) years
imprisonment, which must be served consecutively to the
sentences imposed on all other counts, a fine of up to
$250,000, and up to five years supervised release. Both firearm
counts have a maximum possible penalty of life. The conspiracy
count carries a maximum term of imprisonment of five (5)
years, a $250,000 fine, and a term of supervised release of at
least 2 years.

The on-going investigation is being led by the Carmi office of


the Southern Illinois Drug Task Force and Illinois State Police, in
conjunction with the United States Drug Enforcement
Administration, the Internal Revenue Service, and the Mt.

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Vernon, Illinois, Police Department. The case is being


prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorney James M.
Cutchin.

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GC Marciano Jailed sheriff bargaining with prosecutors


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Associated Press - August 4, 2009 9:24 AM ET

http://www.news25.us/Global/story.asp?S=10843552

BENTON, Ill. (AP) - A southern Illinois sheriff accused of selling


marijuana, often while on duty, is bargaining with federal
prosecutors about a possible plea deal.

That's according to Gallatin County Sheriff Raymond Martin's


Registered: Jul 2003 public defender in a court filing that successfully got the trial
Location: Chicago, Illinois pushed back to Oct. 5.
Posts: 9967
Martin has been in custody since May 18. That's when he was
arrested by federal agents at his Shawneetown office on
charges of marijuana distribution and carrying a firearm - his
service weapon - while trafficking drugs.

Martin remains sheriff, drawing his $40,440-a-year salary,


although 1 of his deputies has been named interim sheriff.
Martin's seat is up for election next year.

Martin has pleaded not guilty.

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10-16-2009 12:29 AM

GC Marciano Sheriff, Wife & Son Accused Of Murder For Hire Plot
Copwatcher Extraordinaire 10:18 pm CT January 02, 2010

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=9175&type=top

JACKSON COUNTY -- The Gallatin County Sheriff, his wife and


son are all charged with Solicitation of Murder for Hire.

Jackson County Sheriff's Deputies say the three were arrested


Saturday. Raymond Martin, 47 of Junction, is already being held
Registered: Jul 2003 in the Jackson County jail on federal drugs and weapons
Location: Chicago, Illinois charges.
Posts: 9967
Martin's wife, Kristina Martin, 36, and son, Cody Martin, 20,
were arrested in Jackson County Saturday.

A source close to the investigation says the Martins were


trying to have two witnesses in Raymond Martin's
upcoming federal trial killed.

All three are being held on $1 million bond each. They are
scheduled to appear in Jackson County Circuit Court Tuesday.

Solicitation of Murder for Hire is a Class X Felony that carries a


sentence of 20 to 40 years in prison.

By: Jeff Stensland


jstensland@wsiltv.com

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01-03-2010 04:58 AM

GC Marciano Gallatin sheriff and family charged with solicitation of


Copwatcher Extraordinaire murder
By Codell Rodriguez, The Southern | Posted: Saturday, January
2, 2010 6:55 pm

http://www.thesouthern.com/news/loc...1cc4c002e0.html

Imprisoned Gallatin County Sheriff Raymond Martin, his wife


and son are facing charges for solicitation of murder for hire.

Registered: Jul 2003 According to the Jackson County Sheriff's Office, Raymond
Location: Chicago, Illinois Martin, 47, an inmate at Jackson County Jail; his wife, Kristina
Posts: 9967 Martin, 36; and his son, Cody Martin, 20, both of Junction, were
arrested Saturday pursuant to warrants signed by Judge W.
Charles Grace following a request by Jackson County State's
Attorney Michael Wepsiec.

All three are now incarcerated in Jackson County Jail with bond
set at $1 million each. They are expected to make their first
court appearance Tuesday.

Raymond Martin is also facing federal drug charges. He was


arrested at his Shawneetown office in May after an investigation
stemming from a confidential source alleging to be dealing
marijuana with the sheriff.

Martin was indicted on three counts of distribution of marijuana


and two counts of carrying a firearm during and in relation to a
drug trafficking crime. In September, he pleaded not guilty to
an additional charge of conspiracy to distribute and possess
with intent to distribute marijuana.

Solicitation of murder for hire is a Class X offense in Illinois and


carries a sentence of no less than 20 years and no more than
40 years in prison.

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01-03-2010 05:03 AM

GC Marciano I hope these new murder for hire charges help seal a sentence
Copwatcher Extraordinaire of life in prison for this scumbag...

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Registered: Jul 2003 resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
Location: Chicago, Illinois of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano Gallatin County Residents Speak Out Against Sheriff


Copwatcher Extraordinaire 6:15 am CT January 04, 2010

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=9180&type=top

SHAWNEETOWN-- It's now been nearly seven months since


Gallatin County Sheriff Raymond Martin was indicted on federal
drugs and weapons charges, for allegedly selling drugs while on
duty in uniform. Which at that point baffled some people in the
county.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois "When I was growing up, I didn't you know, I didn't hear stuff
Posts: 9967 like this," said long-time Gallatin County resident Tildon Van.
"But as I got older, I mean, it's unbelievable."

On Saturday, folks in Shawneetown explained that corruption


has increased in Gallatin County since Martin took office twenty
years ago.

"He's been doing this for so freaking long, somebody got balls
and stood up against him," said resident JR McGhee. "And now
he don't like it, so he's going to take out the wrath, and well the
wrath didn't work."

The wrath that McGhee referred to was unveiled Saturday night,


after Jackson County Sheriff's Deputies arrested Martin's wife
Kristina and twenty year old son Cody. All three are charged
with solicitation of murder for hire, and although it's a serious
charge, some folks say they aren't surprised.

"After he got arrested, yeah I mean, I figured they would do


something not to testify," said Ernie Johnson of Junction.

A source close to the investigation, says the Martin's were


trying to have two witnesses in Raymond's upcoming federal
trial killed. Residents say that the Martin's actions prove
Raymond was doing something illegal, and finally all of his
wrong-doings are coming to the surface.

"That's what they get, it's not going to get him out of his
charges," said Shawneetown resident Rhonda McGhee. "So why
do such a thing like murder somebody?"

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01-04-2010 12:17 PM

GC Marciano Sheriff accused in murder scheme urged to resign


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By The ASSOCIATED PRESS
Tuesday, January 5, 2010 10:58 p.m. CST

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=9485699

MURPHYSBORO — Federal charges that the longtime sheriff of


Gallatin County in southern Illinois sold marijuana while in
uniform seemed odd enough to county board chairman Randy
Drone. But new allegations the sheriff plotted from jail to have
Registered: Jul 2003 someone killed made the case even stranger.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 "Is it greed? Ignorance? I don't know," Drone said Tuesday
before Sheriff Raymond Martin's first court appearance with his
wife and 20-year-old son, who also are charged in the murder-
for-hire scheme. "Arrogance — maybe that's it. Thinking he's so
above the law he could actually get away with this.

"But getting rearrested while still in jail? That's something."

Authorities arrested Martin on the latest charges Saturday in


Murphysboro, where he has spent much of his time since May,
when he was hauled away in handcuffs from his office 60 miles
away.

His 36-year-old wife, Christina Martin, and son Cody Martin also
were arrested Saturday when they came to visit him at the
Jackson County jail.

The three participated in Tuesday's brief court hearing by


closed-circuit television from the jail. A judge declined Raymond
Martin's request for a public defender, deciding the family's
$80,000-a-year household income could cover an attorney.

Christina Martin's attorney, Paul Christenson, waved off


reporters' questions afterward, saying he hadn't yet seen any of
the police files. Cody Martin was granted a public defender.

Each remains jailed on $1 million bond, scheduled for a


preliminary hearing Jan. 26. The most serious of the charges
against them carries up to 40 years in prison.

Court records don't say who the three plotted to kill, and no

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indication was given in court. Michael Wepsiec, the state's


attorney in Jackson County, who is handling the case, refused
to discuss the matter. A Jackson County sheriff's spokesman
declined to comment, and a message left with the U.S.
Attorney's Office in southern Illinois was not immediately
returned.

The Martins did not enter pleas Tuesday. Raymond Martin has
pleaded not guilty to the earlier charges, which accuse him of
selling marijuana — often while on duty.

He remains sheriff, drawing his more than $40,400-a-year


salary, although one of his deputies has been named interim
sheriff and his seat is up for election this year. But Drone hopes
Martin's days as sheriff will end before then: Gallatin County's
governing board sent the jailed man a letter Tuesday, urging
him to resign, he said.

"Personally, I think he is just an absolute embarrassment to the


county," Drone said.

Martin, a Democrat re-elected four times, had been the law for
nearly 20 years in the county when drug investigators hauled
him away from his office in Shawneetown, a burg with little
more than a courthouse, a couple of convenience stores and
Rudy's barbecue restaurant.

Federal prosecutors charged him with three counts of


distributing marijuana, some seized by his own deputies, and
two counts of carrying a firearm — his service weapon — while
trafficking drugs. Federal grand jurors indicted Martin on those
charges months later, adding a count of plotting to deal pot.

Martin supplied a drug dealer and then threatened to kill him


when the man said he wanted out, at least twice pulling his
service revolver to press the point that making the dealer
"disappear" would be "that easy," according to an affidavit by
Drug Enforcement Administration agent Glenn Rountree.

The sheriff also pressured the dealer by saying he could "make


up" a crime against him, Rountree wrote, and he pledged to use
his power to shut down rival dealers.

Scared by Martin's threats, the dealer let authorities record his


conversations with Martin over the next several weeks,
Rountree said. Investigators later found more than $100,000 in
a safe in Martin's home, as well as cash and drugs missing from
evidence bags in Martin's office.

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Associated Press

http://www.examiner.com/a- 2404537~...br /> rges.html

MURPHYSBORO, Ill. (Map, News) -


A southern Illinois sheriff already facing federal drug charges
must find his own attorney to represent him on charges that he,
his wife and son tried to hire someone to commit murder.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois A Jackson County judge on Tuesday declined Gallatin (GAL'-
Posts: 9967 uht'n) County Sheriff Raymond Martin's request for a public
defender. He said Martin's $80,000-a-year household income
should be able to pay for representation on the murder-for-hire
charges.

Martin was arrested Saturday while jailed in Jackson County,


awaiting a federal drug trial. His 30-year-old wife and 20-year-
old son were arrested when they came to visit him.

The wife already has an attorney, who waved off reporters'


questions. Martin's son was granted a public defender.

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Copwatcher Extraordinaire allege
THE SOUTHERN STAFF | Posted: Tuesday, January 5, 2010
1:00 pm

http://thesouthern.com/news/local/c...1cc4c002e0.html

MURPHYSBORO - Gallatin County Sheriff Raymond Martin and


his family attempted to hire two people to commit murder,
court documents from the Jackson County Circuit Court allege.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Martin, who was arrested and charged in 2009 on federal
Posts: 9967 counts of trafficking drugs, some of which was allegedly done
while on the job, his wife, Kristina, and 20-year-old son, Cody,
were arrested Saturday and remain in jail on $1 million bond
each for allegedly soliciting a murder-for-hire.

Martin had a brief conference via closed circuit television in the


Jackson County courthouse in Murphysboro Tuesday. A
preliminary hearing originally scheduled for Jan. 19 was
changed to Jan. 26.

Jackson County State's Attorney Mike Wepsiec said he could not


comment on the details alleged in court documents obtained by
The Southern Illinoisan.

Wepsiec wouldn't say whether the two people the Martins


alleged tried to hire were law enforcement agents.

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Copwatcher Extraordinaire 03/05/2010

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...C1?OpenDocument

BENTON IL - Raymond M. Martin, the Gallatin County sheriff


accused of dealing drugs on duty, is now also charged with
plotting from the Jackson County Jail to have two witnesses
killed, the U.S. attorney's office said Thursday.

Registered: Jul 2003 A revised indictment returned in federal court Wednesday in


Location: Chicago, Illinois Benton charges Martin, 46, with several counts of marijuana
Posts: 9967 dealing, witness tampering and attempting to avoid currency
reporting laws, in 2008-09.

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The grand jury also found probable cause for Martin to forfeit
his home in Junction, Ill., up to $104,000 found inside, a
firearm and $32,400 involved in the currency offense. Some of
the charges carry possible life terms.

Defense lawyer John O'Gara declined to comment. Martin has


been held without bail since May; his trial is set for April 12.

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GC Marciano PDF Document Attached


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Download and read the latest indictments against the scumbag


sheriff Raymond Martin:

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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois __________________
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GC Marciano Sources have been telling us that Martin has told members of
Copwatcher Extraordinaire his family that when he gets to take the stand in his federal jury
trial April 12 [which will probably now be continued], he’ll get to
‘tell the whole story’ and ‘explain everything,’ and when the
feds see what a mistake they made, they’ll let him go…then the
whole fam can go on a nice vacation to the islands.

Seriously. You can’t make this shit up.

In plain English, he’s charged with the following from start to


Registered: Jul 2003 finish:
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Distributing approximately 430 grams of marijuana on April 27,
2009 (count 1), approximately 443.4 grams of marijuana on
May 4, 2009 (count 2), and approximately 209.4 grams of
marijuana on May 11, 2009 (count 3);

Carrying a firearm during an in relation to a drug trafficking


crime on May 4, 2009, his Smith & Wesson .357 service
revolver (count 4), which he’s now been ordered to forfeit
(along with all ammunition), and on May 11, 2009 (count 5),
ordered for forfeiture under same;

Conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to distribute


marijuana from November 2008 to on or about May 18, 2009
(when he was arrested), and as a result of this, a forfeiture
allegation has been filed under the count (count 6). This
forfeiture includes funds or good derived from the sale of the
marijuana, his house at 9400 Sawmill Road, Junction and the
property on which it sits (about 15 acres); and any property he
may have sold or given away in lieu of sale since his arrest;

Witness tampering by attempting to use physical force from


September to November 2009, when he attempted to hire
Thomas Hayden to kill a confidential informant in the case,
Jeremy Potts (count 7); a second count of witness tampering by
attempting to use physical force from November to December
30, 2009, when he attempted to hire Kevin Brown to kill Potts
(count 8); a third count of witness tampering by attempting to
use physical force from November to December 30, 2009, when
he attempted to hire Kevin Brown to kill David Woods (count 9)
and a fourth count of witness tampering by attempting to use
physical force from September to November 2009 when he
attempted to hire Thomas Hayden to kill David Woods (count
10);

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Witness tampering by attempting to intimidate, threaten and


corruptly persuade a witness not to testify from September to
November 9, 2009 by Hayden to influence one of the
confidential informants (it doesn’t specify with, Potts or Woods),
in this case, to kill him (count 11); and the same for Brown
from November to December 30, 2009, to influence the other of
Potts or Woods under the same circumstance (count 12); and
realleging for Brown’s ‘influence’ toward the first of Potts or
Woods as count 14.

Count 15 is the booger for Raymond: Attempted structuring of


financial transactions. This is alleged to have occurred when on
or about December 30, 2009, he attempted to withdraw cash in
amounts less than $10,000 from Integra Bank in Shawneetown,
this ostensibly and allegedly to pay the hit men, Hayden and
Brown. The feds are asking forfeiture of accounts in the name of
his mother in law, Marlene Naas for his little son, Trey; his wife
Tina’s son Mason Koester; Tina’s other son, James A. Koester
(two accounts) and funds represented by a cashier’s check
drawn on that bank payable to Naas or Kelly Sutton. These
amount, according to paperwork, to $32,400. Since it was
noted last May that large sums of cash were seized during the
raid on Martin’s home upon his arrest, this is other cash that’s
been collected since that time. Of course Raymond has been
receiving his county-supported paycheck for being sheriff since
he’s been sitting in federal holding. Too bad the feds can’t give
that money back to the Gallatin County taxpayers, since it’s
likely THEIRS.

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GC Marciano Gallatin County sheriff's trial postponed until September


Copwatcher Extraordinaire BY TOM BARKER, The Southern
Posted: Thursday, April 8, 2010 4:43 pm

http://www.thesouthern.com/news/loc...1cc4c03286.html

BENTON - A federal judge granted a four-month continuance


Thursday morning in the case of a Southern Illinois sheriff
accused of dealing drugs on the job and then plotting to kill
witnesses.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Gallatin County Sheriff Raymond Martin, facing seven drug
Posts: 9967 trafficking and firearm counts following his arrest in May, along
with eight new witness tampering counts included in a federal
indictment last month, submitted a motion for continuance in
the case, which claimed his attorney needed more time to
review the new charges.

During a telephone hearing Thursday morning, Judge J. Phil


Gilbert considered and approved the motion, resetting Martin's
pre-trial date from the original April 12 to later this year on
Aug. 26 at the U.S. Circuit Court in Benton. Martin's jury trial
was reset for Sept. 13 at 9 a.m.

Martin was originally arrested last May at his Shawneetown


office for allegedly running a marijuana-distributing operation,
often while on duty in his official capacity as sheriff, between
November 2008 and May 2009 in Gallatin County.

The new counts relate to an alleged plot by Martin, his wife


Kristina, 36, and his son, Cody, 20, to kill key witnesses in the
case against him.

While technically still the sheriff of Gallatin County, Martin has


denied a request from county commissioners to resign from his
position, said Chief Deputy Shannon Bradley, acting sheriff for
the county. Bradley said Martin no longer receives pay as
sheriff, but there is little else the county can do to remove him
from the position, he said.

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GC Marciano Some charges dropped against sheriff in alleged murder-


Copwatcher Extraordinaire for-hire plot
May 04, 2010 5:35 PM CDT
By Heartland News

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=12426284

GALLATIN COUNTY, IL (KFVS) - The prosecutor dropped some


of the charges against the Gallatin County Sheriff in an alleged
murder-for-hire plot.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Jackson County state's attorney Michael Wepsiec dropped
Posts: 9967 charges that accused Sheriff Raymond Martin of trying to have
witnesses against him in a federal drug case killed.

Wepsiec says the dropped counts were too much like the federal
conspiracy and witness-tampering charges Martin already faces.

Martin is also accused of selling marijuana, often while on duty.

He has pleaded not guilty to the federal charges and is


scheduled for trial in September.

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huckabuck001 Doesn't really sound like the charges were dropped, per se'. It
Senior Member sounds as if the state is letting the Feds handle this portion of the
case, which is good in a sense, as the Feds don't offer time off for
Registered: Feb 2007 good behavior, probation, or parole - with the Feds, as I understand
Location: Florida it, "time earned is time you'll serve". In other words, if this guy is
Posts: 577
tried and convicted under FEDERAL LAW, if he get a hundred years,
he'll serve all 36,500 days before he is released...

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Copwatcher Extraordinaire

Former police officer pleads guilty to civil rights violation


Last updated 1:14 pm CT April 26, 2010

http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/...civil-rights-v/

Dustin G. Whitehead, 28, of Marion, Ill., pleaded guilty to


one charge of deprivation of rights under color of law in U.S.
District Court for the Southern District of Illinois.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
According to A. Courtney Cox, U.S. Attorney for the Southern
District of Illinois, Whitehead admitted that on Aug. 14, 2009,
while serving as a police officer for the city of Marion, he
willfully and without legal justification kicked an arrested person
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already handcuffed and placed into his police car. Prosecutors


said that Whitehead admitted that in so doing, he willfully
deprived the arrested person of his constitutional right not to be
subjected to an unreasonable use of force by a police officer.

As part of his plea agreement, Whitehead agreed to resign from


his position as a Marion police officer and will refrain from ever
seeking or accepting employment as a police officer, jailer,
correctional officer, military police officer or deputy sheriff.

In addition, court documents show Whitehead agreed to submit


an affidavit, which was signed in court, to the Illinois Law
Enforcement Training and Standards Board, affirming that he
would not seek future law enforcement employment.

The offense carries a maximum sentence of one year in prison,


a $100,000 fine and up to one year of supervised release. The
sentence will be imposed after a pre-sentence report is
prepared. Whitehead was released on an unsecured $1000 bond
pending his sentencing hearing which currently is scheduled for
10 a.m., July 29 in Benton, Ill.

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Originally posted by GC Marciano

As part of his plea agreement, Whitehead


agreed to resign from his position as a Marion
police officer and will refrain from ever
seeking or accepting employment as a police
officer, jailer, correctional officer, military
Registered: Jun 2005 police officer or deputy sheriff.
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Posts: 5865 In addition, court documents show Whitehead
agreed to submit an affidavit, which was
signed in court, to the Illinois Law
Enforcement Training and Standards Board,
affirming that he would not seek future law
enforcement employment.

Given the treasure trove of evidence that swine convicted of


felonies are routinely able to continue to "work" in "law
enforcement," and given the abysmal record that "law
enforcement" agencies have when it comes to doing thorough

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background checks on applicants, I'm not going to hold my


breath that this "agreement" will ever be enforced.

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Given the treasure trove of evidence that swine
convicted of felonies are routinely able to
continue to "work" in "law enforcement," and
given the abysmal record that "law enforcement"
agencies have when it comes to doing thorough
background checks on applicants, I'm not going
to hold my breath that this "agreement" will ever
be enforced.

100's Of Felons Hired As Police Officers in Tennessee

http://www.wsmv.com/news/10236813/detail.html

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weren't followed to the letter during the arrest, or while


searching.

If the first step towards madness is to see connections


between random events where there are none, what is it to
pretend that undeniable connections don't exist?

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GC Marciano Illegally stormed, tased and maced by Chicago swine:


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Six Men Say Chicago Cops Ran Wild


By BRIDGET FREELAND

http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/04/22/26628.htm

CHICAGO (CN) - Six men say that 20 Chicago cops assaulted,


Tasered and Maced them in a private home, with a helicopter
hovering overhead, because the men had shouted that "the kids
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were OK" as cops patted down a group of 10- and 11-year-old
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The men demand $12 million in damages from Officers Donald


Hummons and Fred Barroso and Sgt. Joseph Keeter, who they
say led the police gang to the home.

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The men say they were "peacefully enjoying the evening" on


April 17, 2009 on the porch of the home of the mother of three
of the plaintiffs. In their federal complaint, the men say they
saw Hummons and Barroso detain a group of 10-to-11-year-
olds at a nearby intersection and subject them to a pat-down.

Two men yelled to the police, from approximately six doors


down, "that the kids were 'OK' and that they were from the
neighborhood and not cause for trouble," according to the
complaint.

Other residents in the area told the officers that the kids were
"not troublemakers or gang members," the plaintiffs say.

The police released the kids, then drove slowly past the six
plaintiffs, "staring at the plaintiffs as they passed."

About 15 minutes later, 20 to 25 officers, led by Keeter,


"stormed the private property," armed with "assault
rifles, Taser guns, Mace and a helicopter overhead," but
without a warrant, the men say.

The men say the officers arrested them on "various offenses,"


and Keeter shot them with a Taser. They were "Maced as well,"
though none of them resisted, the men say.

The men say they had had no close contact with the officers
before the assault, and had no weapons on them.
They say they suffered "shame, humiliation and loss of
reputation among family members and neighbors of being so
publicly arrested and accused of crimes which they did not
commit."

They say four plaintiffs were found not guilty, and charges
against the other two were dismissed.

Each man demands $1 million in compensatory damages and


$1 million in punitive damages from Hummons, Barroso and
Keeter, alleging constitutional violations, false arrest and
malicious prosecution.

They are represented by Phillip Bartolementi.

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Jacoba I often wonder if the reason more people are not outraged anytime
Senior Member the police or sheriffs departments do crap like this... is that it
simple does not shock them anymore.
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Location: It seems that the police have truly lost sight of why they exist. And
Posts: 439 if they have truly lost sight of why they exist, its past time we get
rid of them.

Why would a society tolerate a government sanctioned group of


thugs who do nothing more than move from one egregious civil
rights violation to the next?

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searching.

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quote:

It seems that the police have truly lost sight of why


they exist. And if they have truly lost sight of why they
exist, its past time we get rid of them.

Why would a society tolerate a government sanctioned


Registered: May 2008 group of thugs who do nothing more than move from
Location: one egregious civil rights violation to the next?
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As you mention, Jacoba, Amerikan "police" really have failed to


grasp the concept of receiving overly generous remuneration,
extraordinary legal protection, and nice, big fat pensions in
exchange for protecting taxpayers and their property. Instead,
Amerikan "police" have devolved into social parasites who actually
create far more crime than they "solve" or "prevent", AND they
have a well organized union to protect them from accountability.

A fascist totalitarian government has no regard for the welfare and


well being of its citizenry. Government sanctioned organized crime
is how it functions.

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State Police To Lay Off Hundreds, Close Five Headquarters


12:42 pm CT March 25, 2010.

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=9789&type=top

WHITE COUNTY-- In an effort to cut thirty-two million dollars


from their budget, Illinois State Police have announced that
they will lay off more than 460 troopers, and close five out of
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twenty-two regional headquarters in the state.
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Acting director of State Police Jonathon Monken says the office
in Carmi is on that list. Along with facilities in Des Plaines,
Pecatonica, Macomb, and Litchfield, they'll all be closed by the
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The state police headquarters in Carmi sits in a rural location,


strategically located to help other law enforcement agencies in
the five county area.

"We depend greatly on the post for assets, for search warrants,
to back us up on all types of calls, and to handle calls whenever
we're not available," said Hamilton County Sheriff Greg Brenner.

But now that help will more than likely be gone, the office in
Carmi is set to close sometime in the fall. Which, Monken says
will undoubtedly leave a lot of area for other branches to cover.

"We really won't have a proactive effort in those areas


anymore, we'll be entirely reactive based on calls for service,"
Monken said. "So response times will be extremely high, it will
be a significant amount of travel to get to those scenes."

Sheriff Brenner says that puts his department and others in a


bind, because he's already short staffed. Brenner says he
understands that the state is having budget problems, but he
fells like small communities are suffering the most.

"It just seems like the state's just looking only at dollars and
cents instead of the impact on the smaller departments, and the
more rural areas," said Brenner.

Monken says after cutting millions of dollars worth of civilian


jobs in recent years, the only option left is cutting troopers. And
with eighty-nine percent of the ISP's budget made up of
salaries, he says it had to be done.

"We've made all these cuts in a lot of other areas, so we're kind
of at wits end here when all of our money is spent on
personnel," said Monken.

Monken says not all of the employees at the Carmi


headquarters will lose their jobs, some will be able to transfer to
other branches like Du Quoin or Ullin.

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GC Marciano I'm sure some dumbass will soon start a public whine-fest,
Copwatcher Extraordinaire declaring the decision to save money by laying off 500 of the
overpaid and mostly useless ISP troopers to be "dangerous" and
an action that will "cost citizens their lives" and other scripted
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Sheriffs say state police layoffs threaten safety
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:15 pm

http://www.thesouthern.com/news/loc...1cc4c03286.html

HARDIN (AP) - Sheriffs around Illinois are angry over the state
police's plan to lay off more than 460 troopers and close five
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regional headquarters this year, calling it a threat to public
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"It really is unfortunate, as the residents of Illinois are being


shortchanged again," said Calhoun County Sheriff Bill
Heffington. "My department is already short-staffed due to the

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budget crunch caused by the state, and as far as I am


concerned, our politicians in Springfield need to think of public
safety first."

The five offices on the chopping block are in Litchfield, Carmi,


Pecatonica, Macomb and Des Plaines.

Calhoun County is among five counties covered by District 18 in


Litchfield. Heffington said without state troopers nearby,
response time to calls from his agency could be hours.

Other sheriffs echoed similar concerns, as well as an increase in


traffic fatalities.

Illinois State Police District 16 in Pecatonica, located in the


northwestern corner of the state, covers four counties. That
includes Winnebago County, which has one of the state's largest
sheriff's offices.

"The state has never hesitated to send assistance when we


asked for it," said Winnebago County Sheriff Dick Meyers. "Now
those resources are not going to be there."

Earlier this week, State Police Acting Director Jonathon Monken


announced the cuts, saying they were necessary because of the
state's budget crisis. The agency faces a $32 million cut in state
funding.

But Monken added that there will be consequences for


communities. He said among the changes would be the loss of
providing pro-active programs to keep citizens safe and only
being able to respond to calls for assistance.

He said the layoffs will start July 1, and facilities will start to
close by Sept. 1.

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Sheriffs predict hardship if troopers cut
Thu Mar 25, 2010, 11:22 AM CDT

http://www.bentoneveningnews.com/st...if-troopers-cut

SPRINGFIELD - As they ramp up a crackdown, Illinois sheriff's


deputies see their jobs getting harder in dealing with
methamphetamine and other problems if massive State Police
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Members of the Illinois Sheriff's Association announced today a
campaign to target the drug in the 15 southernmost counties.

The campaign comes as State Police officials plan to lay off 460
troopers and close several district offices as part of deep state
budget cuts.

At a Statehouse news conference, Union County Sheriff Dave


Livesay said the lack of state troopers will "slow down" efforts
to track meth manufacturers.

"A lot of the meth arrests come from simple traffic stops and
evidence found in vehicles," he said. "We are looking at ways to
pick up the slack, (but) we don't know where it's going to come
from."

The association has $250,000 to spend on advertising in


schools, along with television commercials and billboards. The
campaign will last through Dec. 31.

Bob Howlett, deputy director of the sheriff's association, said


southern Illinois counties are the focus of this campaign
because they have a high concentration of meth labs.

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pyo1 quote:
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Originally posted by GC Marciano
Registered: May 2009 I'm sure some dumbass will soon start a public
Location: Oklahoma whine-fest, declaring the decision to save money
Posts: 1565 by laying off 500 of the overpaid and mostly
useless ISP troopers to be "dangerous" and an
action that will "cost citizens their lives" and
other scripted bullshit.

I'm all in favor of cutting every cop's salary by half, and I'm being
generous here. Public safety is NOT the compromise here. They will
form their little sty protests, and EVERY time they say they cannot
do their jobs, I'd fire the top and the bottom turd in the stool! I
CAN'T NEVER DID A DAMNED THING!!!

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liberranter If these layoffs actually occur (which I doubt, if history is any


Super Moderator guide), we can be pretty sure that two trends will follow:

1) The overall rate of violent crime against the citizens of Illinois


will decline, particularly incidents of aggravated assault with a
deadly weapon, battery, rape, and extortion (the latter resulting
from fewer state-employed thugs being on the streets to
shakedown motorists for revenue resulting from traffic-related
"offenses").

2) Welfare expenditures will skyrocket in the short term, as five


hundred otherwise unemployable burdens on the state's
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taxpayers will be subsidized with "unemployment benefits",
Posts: 5865 lavish in comparison with anything received by Illinois residents
who are not "state employees" and probably voted into
existence as "emergency funding." Also, expect loud, whiny,
and potentially violent public demonstrations by these

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unemployed oxygen thieves over their circumstances, with


thousands of their fellow gangbangers in blue still suckling on
the public teat coming out in sympathy.

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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
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Grigg

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Originally posted by pyo1
I'm all in favor of cutting every cop's salary by
half, and I'm being generous here. Public
safety is NOT the compromise here. They will
form their little sty protests, and EVERY time
they say they cannot do their jobs, I'd fire the
top and the bottom turd in the stool! I CAN'T
NEVER DID A DAMNED THING!!!
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Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967

No kidding.

We have ISP Troopers here being paid six figures to write seat
belt tickets. Literally.

ISP Troopers (and LE in general) are WAY overpaid, and I'd


without hesitation go so far as to say that they are the primary
cause of Illinois' current budget woes.

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
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liberranter quote:
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Originally posted by GC Marciano

No kidding.

We have ISP Troopers here being paid six


figures to write seat belt tickets. Literally.

ISP Troopers (and LE in general) are WAY


overpaid, and I'd without hesitation go so far
as to say that they are the primary cause of
Registered: Jun 2005 Illinois' current budget woes.
Location: Tucson, AZ
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That's pretty much the case now in EVERY state, and although
cops might not be the entire cause of it, they're definitely top-
three contributors.

Here's a book I'm trying to get ahold of right now; it's being
called a "MUST-READ" for anyone concerned about the out-of-
control public sector.

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it values more, it will lose that too.
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pyo1 quote:
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Originally posted by liberranter
Registered: May 2009 If these layoffs actually occur (which I doubt, if
Location: Oklahoma history is any guide), we can be pretty sure that
Posts: 1565 two trends will follow:

1) The overall rate of violent crime against the


citizens of Illinois will decline, particularly
incidents of aggravated assault with a deadly
weapon, battery, rape, and extortion (the latter
resulting from fewer state-employed thugs being
on the streets to shakedown motorists for
revenue resulting from traffic-related "offenses").

If anything the numbers will increase. They will


stage their protest and take it out on anyone and
everyone wo looks like a willing victim!

2) Welfare expenditures will skyrocket in the


short term, as five hundred otherwise
unemployable burdens on the state's taxpayers
will be subsidized with "unemployment benefits",
lavish in comparison with anything received by
Illinois residents who are not "state employees"
and probably voted into existence as "emergency
funding." Also, expect loud, whiny, and
potentially violent public demonstrations by these
unemployed oxygen thieves over their
circumstances, with thousands of their fellow
gangbangers in blue still suckling on the public
teat coming out in sympathy.

I'd prefer to pay those POS types, $300 a week (mol) raher than
the money they get for being useless now!

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Originally posted by liberranter
Registered: May 2009 it's being called a "MUST-READ" for anyone concerned
Location: Oklahoma about the out-of-control public sector. [/B]
Posts: 1565

Given the circumstance I would call it a public nuisance!

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Night Raven Just like A$$achusetts, Land of copscum Opportunity!


Senior Member

The following was listed back on May 25, 2009. The situation
today is largely unchanged in spite of the pissant measures
taken to curtail these tax money suck-holes from continuing
to rob the state treasury. Also, bear in mind that the
Retirement Pay of such state employees is roughly 80% of
the average of the employee's top three salary years.
Registered: May 2008
Location: Mass. State Police Continue To Steal From Taxpayers
Posts: 4812
NOTE: BE SURE TO ACCESS THE LINKS BELOW IN ORDER TO
SEE MORE ON THIS STORY. SOME OF THESE STATE KOPSKUM
ARE RIPPING OFF A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR
FOR SLEEPING IN THEIR CRUISERS AT CONSTRUCTION
SITES!

See:
www.masslive.com/database/turnpiketroopers/

and

http://www.masslive.com/news/index....en_as_road.html

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Mass. Turnpike detail seen as road to riches for many state troopers
by The Republican Newsroom
Saturday May 23, 2009, 2:00 PM

Photo by Stephan Savoia / Associated Press


A state trooper sfaffs a road work detail on the
MassachusettsTurnpike in Newton recently.
By JACK FLYNN
jflynn@repub.com

SPRINGFIELD - For dozens of state troopers, the Massachusetts


Turnpike has become a fast lane to $150,000-plus salaries.

Nine officers from Troop E, the turnpike patrol unit, earned more
than $200,000 last year, 41 made $175,000 or more, and 93
topped the $150,000 mark, according to payroll records reviewed
by The Republican.

The five highest paid troopers took in a combined $1.1 million.

The average pay: $149,666.

The figures explain why Troop E remains one of the most coveted
posts in state law enforcement. Besides dominating the list of top
police salaries, Troop E's top earners pocketed more than turnpike
officials, state judges and Gov. Deval L. Patrick.

Of the 173 officers assigned to the unit last year, only 15 earned
less than $100,000, and several of those worked only part of the
year.

The figures represent base pay, plus overtime and lucrative "extra
details" guarding road and utility crews - a perk that allows many
troopers to double or triple their base salaries.

TROOPER DATABASE

SEARCH:
State troopers and special detail assigned to Troop E and the
Massachusetts Turnpike
The supersized salaries for state troopers have exasperated public
advocacy groups and provoked periodic calls for reforms.

Yet little has been done to curb the payments, even as the Patrick
administration tries to shut down the state Turnpike Authority and
impose a 19-cent gasoline tax to shrink an estimated $1 billion
budget deficit. Since pitching the tax plan in February, Patrick has
been deluged with demands to reduce spending, not raise taxes.

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The public backlash, combined with the deterioration of state roads


and bridges, could spill over to trooper salaries as well, according to
some observers.

"This is the moment for change; it is simply not fair to ask toll
payers to bear these kind of salaries," said Michael J. Widmer,
president of the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation.

"There are people making sacrifices all over the world" due to a
global financial recession, Widmer added. "There's no reason the
state troopers can't do it too."

Others, however, suggest it would take little short of an apocalypse


to get the state Legislature and the executive branch to scale back
the perks of public employee unions.

"The reason these numbers are so high to begin with is that state
government is terrified to take on the unions," said David G.
Tuerck, executive director of the Beacon Hill Institute.

The bloated police pay for reflects the disproportionate clout


wielded by public employee unions for decades, Tuerck said.

"A simple answer to all this would be to inform all public employees
to take a 10 percent pay cut now, or 15 when their contracts
expire," he said. "We'd save $1 billion a year."

The State Police Association of Massachusetts, which represents


troopers and sergeants, points out that pay scales were achieved
through labor negotiations. The union maintains that the demands
placed on troopers - from long hours and flexible shifts to working
in bad weather and the potential of violence - justify whatever
amount the troopers earn.

And earn, they did.

For every mile of the 138-mile highway last year, there was a state
trooper earning well over $100,000 to patrol it.

Overall, Troop E, with its five barracks along the turnpike, took in
$25.9 million, with more than one-third of that, or $10.2 million,
coming from overtime and special details.

The troopers took advantage of overtime and road details to boost


their salaries by an average $58,938, records show. An additional
$3.1 million was paid out to troopers from other units signed up for
special detail work on the turnpike.

Top earners from Troop E were Lt. John F. O'Grady Jr., assigned to
Boston barracks, $240,809; Lt. Donald Place, now retired,
$240,493; Sgt. John Shea, East Boston barracks, $231,624;
Trooper Todd Glidden, Weston, $224,008; and Sgt. David
Douthwright, Westfield, $217,161.

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O'Grady topped the list in 2007 also, taking in $255,138. His


combined earnings for two years: $495,947.

Ranking 115 was Trooper John McCullough, whose $141,324 total


last year was $824 more than the governor's.

In 49 other states, civilians typically handle special details. In


Massachusetts, police automatically get them - and usually for
much more than civilians.

Detail pay for state troopers starts at $40 an hour and escalates to
$80 an hour; civilian flaggers usually get between $20 and $37.

Statewide, the price tag for police details has been estimated at
$90 million a year, three times the cost for using civilian flaggers.

In 1992, the Weld administration attempted to break the police


monopoly on extra detail work, but gave up after 800 officers
picketed the Statehouse.

Last fall, Patrick decided to allow civilian flaggers in low-speed


zones. The plan, which does not apply to the turnpike, also drew
protests from police in several eastern Massachusetts communities.

The turnpike is not just a bonanza for Troop E; 190 troopers from
other units landed extra detail assignments there last year, earning
as much as $79,767 and as little as $86.40.

Whether the turnpike continues to be Troop E's path to prosperity


depends largely on the outcome of transportation reform proposals
now pending on Beacon Hill.

Officials for both the Executive Office of Public Safety and Executive
Office of Transportation say it is still too early say how Troop E will
be affected by any reorganization.

In a meeting with The Republican's editorial board in March,


Transportation Secretary James A. Aloisi said, however, that
dissolution of the turnpike would signal an end to "special
arrangements" for state police assigned solely to that highway.

"The question will become, 'Does the public safety secretary need
Troop E,'" Aloisi said.

In April, the House of Representatives approved a bill that would


eliminate the authority and fold its operations - including Troop E -
into a super transportation agency. The Senate approved a similar
bill in late March.

The new agency, called the Massachusetts Transportation and


Infrastructure Authority, would be run by a five-member board
appointed by the governor.

A compromise bill is expected to be approved and sent to Patrick


later this session.

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However, both House and Senate versions preserve the salaries and
benefits of the turnpike police, according to Widmer.

Without scaling back the current pay structure, taxpayers should


expect to see era of the $300,000 state trooper dawning soon,
Widmer said.

"I think that's on the near horizon," he said.

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pyo1 No way they should get more than 50K at the top dog position,
Senior Member IMO! Most people break their backs to get even close to that!

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Jacoba 500 less Troopers in Illinois?


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Sounds like the people if Illinois can breath a bit easier knowing
Registered: Jun 2009 their civil rights are much safer now.
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GC Marciano Former States Atty William K Richardson charged with hunting


Copwatcher Extraordinaire offenses:

IDNR issues former state's atty. 6 deer citations


By Danny Malkovich
Benton Evening News
Tue Dec 01, 2009, 03:29 PM CST

http://www.bentoneveningnews.com/ne...-deer-citations

Registered: Jul 2003 Benton, Ill. - Five men, including a former Franklin County
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
state’s attorney, were ticketed by Illinois Department of
Natural Resources officers for hunting-related offenses during
the recently concluded shotgun deer season.

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On Nov. 22, William K. Richardson, 45, of Benton received


six citations — including one ticket for the unlawful taking of
more than two bucks during deer season (three bucks).

Richardson also was issued two citations for failing to tag deer
(8-point buck and small fork buck), two for failing to check in
deer by 10 p.m. and one for failing to check in deer by 10 p.m.
(parental responsibility — on a deer taken by his son, a
juvenile).

The offenses allegedly took place Nov. 17, 20 and 21.

Others ticketed included Dale Wilson, 53, of Ewing and three


men from the Mendota area.

Two juveniles were also cited by authorities. Those tickets were


issued in the names of their respective fathers.

IDNR officers received a tip from a neighbor that several deer


had been harvested and were hanging in a barn east of Ewing
belonging to a relative of Richardson.

When officers arrived, they found that the deer, which were
harvested earlier in the shotgun season, had not been tagged
nor had they been reported by telephone to IDNR.

According to sources, the hunters had tags for all of the deer
but one.

Richardson had formerly served as state’s attorney in Franklin


County.

Until early summer, he had been on the legal staff of the IDNR
in Springfield. In June, he joined the legal staff of the Illinois
Department of Corrections.

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12-03-2009 02:26 AM

GC Marciano Former DNR legal counsel ticketed for illegal deer


Copwatcher Extraordinaire December 02, 2009 at 06:34 AM

http://www.prairiestateoutdoors.com...gal_deer

The Department of Natural Resource’s former general legal


counsel has been ticketed for hunting-related offenses.

William K. Richardson of Benton, who worked for the


Registered: Jul 2003 DNR under Gov. Blagojevich and is also the former
Location: Chicago, Illinois Franklin County state’s attorney, is one of five men
Posts: 9967 reportedly ticketed by DNR officers for hunting-related offenses
during the first firearm deer season.

Richardson received six citations on Nov. 22 — including one


ticket for the unlawful taking of more than two bucks during
deer season (three bucks).

Richardson also was issued two citations for failing to tag deer
(8-point buck and small fork buck), two for failing to check in
deer by 10 p.m. and one for failing to check in deer by 10 p.m.
(parental responsibility — on a deer taken by his son, a
juvenile).”

The offenses allegedly took place Nov. 17, 20 and 21.

“I had the permits, and the deer were taken during daylight
hours,” Richardson told the Benton Evening News. “I took ’em
— I just didn’t tag ’em.”

Others ticketed included Dale Wilson, 53, of Ewing and three


men from the Mendota area.

Two juveniles were also cited by authorities. Those tickets were


issued in the names of their respective fathers.

IDNR officers received a tip from a neighbor that several deer


had been harvested and were hanging in a barn east of Ewing
belonging to a relative of Richardson.

When officers arrived, they found that the deer, which were
harvested earlier in the shotgun season, had not been tagged
nor had they been reported by telephone to IDNR.

According to sources, the hunters had tags for all of the deer
but one.

In June, Richardson joined the legal staff of the Illinois


Department of Corrections.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Mona Sandefur
Benton Evening News
Fri Feb 05, 2010, 07:39 AM CST

http://www.bentoneveningnews.com/ne...ce?popular=true

Benton, Ill. - Former Franklin County State's Attorney William K.


Richardson, 45, of Benton made his first appearance in court
Wednesday to answer allegations imposed by the Illinois
Registered: Jul 2003 Department of Natural Resources.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Richardson was cited for hunting-related offenses on Nov. 22,
2009, including one ticket for the unlawful taking of more than
two bucks during deer season.

IDNR officials allege that Richardson took three bucks during


deer season. He was also issued two citations for failing to tag
an eight-point buck and a small fork buck, two citations for
failing to check in deer by 10 p.m. and one for failing to check
in deer by 10 p.m. as a parental responsibility. His son, a
juvenile allegedly also harvested a deer.

The offenses occurred on Nov. 17, 20 and 21.

Richardson said he had permits and that the deer were taken

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during the daylight hours, but he did not tag them.

Richardson's attorney, Terry M. Green, spoke on behalf of his


client, requesting Judge Leo T. Desmond to "set the case down
the road a bit." Green said the state had provided discovery in
the case.

Richardson is due in court again April 7 for a pre-trial and


arraignment.

Others ticketed included Dale E. Wilson, 53, of Ewing and three


men from the Mendota area. Authorities also cited two
juveniles, and those tickets were issued in the names of their
respective fathers.

An April 7 court date was also set for Wilson.

IDNR officers received a tip from a neighbor that several deer


had been harvested and were hanging in a barn belonging to
one of Richardson's relatives located east of Ewing.

When officers arrived, they discovered that the deer harvested


earlier in the shotgun season had not been tagged, nor had
they been reported by telephone to IDNR.

According to sources, the hunters had tags for all but one of the
deer.

Until early summer 2009, Richardson had been on the legal


staff of the IDNR in Springfield. In June, he joined the legal staff
of the Illinois Department of Corrections.

The charges are considered Class B misdemeanors.

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HERRIN -- State Police investigators spent Monday at the scene of


the beating. Bill Wynn says it happened to his son-- 24-year-old
Derek-- around 2:30 this morning outside their home. State police
say they are looking into whether local off-duty officers were
involved.

Bill Wynn says his son's been the target of ongoing suspicions that
he was involved with a local police officer's wife. But Wynn says it's
not true, and the assumptions shouldn't have lead to what he calls

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a violent attack. One that happened only months after his son's
return from duty in Iraq.

"He's over there being shot at, serving his country, and then comes
home and gets ganged up on by police officers," says Bill Wynn.

He says ongoing tensions are common between his son Derek and
those he believes are responsible for his assault. But an encounter
at a local bar brought the issues to the forefront. Wynn says
Chevie's Lounge was the last place his son was at before he was
followed home.

Immediately after he parked, Wynn says at least 4 people jumped


out of a marked police car.

"My wife said, 'I hear glass breaking and the horn honking' and I
come running out and they were running around the corner leaving.
Derek got out, I said, 'what's going on?' He said, '4 cops just beat
me up,'" says Wynn.

He says it all took place in this driveway. Now it's where state police
investigators are searching for evidence... in and around the car
with broken windows and blood. Wynn says, "He's got a big old
bloody eye- black eye here- he's got (scrapes) all over his back
where they beat him on his back, he's got marks all up and down
his legs where they tried to drag him out of the car while they were
hitting him."

Wynn says besides damage to the car and injuries to his son, he
says the incident gives him reason to doubt the local law
enforcement.

"It really scares me because we're trying to teach our kids to


respect the police officers and do what they say, and then they do
this to your kids," says Wynn.

State police cannot confirm names of the officers under


investigation, or what departments they work for. Herrin police
confirm there was an incident, but won't say if their officers were
involved. Officials will only say that state police are handling the
investigation.

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GC Marciano Here's the media link to the story: http://www.wsiltv.com/p/


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08-13-2007 08:38 PM

sassy500 Now you know how safe we feel in Herrin in reagrds to my other
Junior Member situation

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08-13-2007 08:40 PM

GC Marciano Re: Herrin IL cops accused of beating man:


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quote:

Originally posted by sassy500


Herrin police confirm there was an incident,
but won't say if their officers were involved.

Registered: Jul 2003


Location: Chicago, Illinois In other words, the Herrin officers were involved in the beating
Posts: 9967 but the department won't confirm it because they need to help
cover for them.

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sassy500 There is a better article on the WPSD TV 6 website that you should
Junior Member read

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08-13-2007 10:26 PM

sassy500 There's an update on the story on the WSIL TV 3 web site. There
Junior Member was an Energy, Illinois cop involved and a Herrin, Illinois Dispatcher
resigned who was involved in the incident
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08-14-2007 11:45 PM

Navigatr1 More law enforcement officials investigated for alleged beating


Extended Sabatical

More law enforcement officials investigated for alleged


beating
http://www.southernillinoisan.com/a...80466557576.txt
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HERRIN -- Williamson County Sheriff Tom Cundiff confirmed
Wednesday two other individuals within his department are being
investigated by Illinois State Police for alleged involvement in the
beating of 24-year-old Herrin resident, Derek Wynn, outside his
house Monday.

Cundiff wouldn't release names of the two indviduals but said one is
a full-time deputy and the other had applied for a volunteer position
with the auxiliary. The deputy is currently on a paid administrative
leave.

A part-time Herrin dispatcher also implicated in the alleged beating


resigned Tuesday, Herrin Police Chief Stu Ridings said.

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In addition, Energy Police Chief Shawn Ladd said one of his off-duty
officers was allegedly involved in the incident.

Published on: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 4:24 PM CDT

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sassy500 This is the exact reason that my friend and I can't contact anybody
Junior Member about our situation with the Marion IL Dispatcher Ricard Dwason.
Dawson has a violent temper and has been following me around (IL
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08-16-2007 02:24 PM

Navigatr1 Herrin dispatcher resigns after being implicated in fight


Extended Sabatical

Herrin dispatcher resigns after being implicated in fight


http://www.southernillinoisan.com/a...d0792018670.txt

Registered: Jul 2003 BY MEAGAN SEXTON


Location:
Posts: 31403 HERRIN —Herrin Police Chief Stu Ridings said on Tuesday that he
was informed by Illinois State Police that a part-time dispatcher for
the department has been implicated in an investigation involving an
early Monday morning altercation with Derek Wynn, 24, of 201 W.
Herrin St.

Ridings said that the employee resigned from the department on


Tuesday.

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Wynn is the man who is alleged to have been attacked by as yet


unnamed personnel outside his residence. A family member, when
contacted at home, declined comment, saying that state
investigators advised against it.

Any time the actions of officers are called into question, the state
police are asked to conduct an investigation rather than the local
department.

District 13 State Police Officer David Sneed said that the incident is
still under investigation and evidence is still being pieced together.

Published on: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 4:01 PM CDT

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08-18-2007 06:04 PM

Thawed No names, charges yet in police assault case


Member

The States Attorney held a press conference on Tuesday


Registered: Sep 2007 concerning the incident. Another three weeks ! ?
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Posts: 32 http://www.thesouthern.com/articles...op/21388183.txt

No names, charges yet in police assault case


http://www.thesouthern.com/articles...op/21388183.txt

BY JOHN D. HOMAN, The Southern

MARION - Williamson County State's Attorney Charles Garnati


threw a curveball at the media Tuesday morning when he said he
was not yet ready to file any charges or release names of law
enforcement personnel investigated in the Aug. 13 assault of Derek
Wynn of Herrin. The investigation is being handled by the state
police.

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Members of the media were under the impression Garnati had


called the press conference to announce names or charges.

Garnati said before any charges are filed he must first await test
results from the state police crime lab. He refused to give specifics
on what is being tested. He said he hopes to receive the test results
within the next couple of weeks and would like to make his decision
on whether to file charges based on the evidence by the end of this
month.

"I realize that this case is being watched closely by the public and
the media as it should be," Garnati said. "And the allegations are
troubling, but this decision is now on my shoulders and my
shoulders alone. I want to make it clear that I am personally
handling this case."

Garnati said there are "several persons of interest" who have been
investigated by state police. He would not specify a number.

"I've always believed that no person is above the law, including


police officers or any other law enforcement officer," Garnati said.
"And I think I've demonstrated that philosophy over my last 23
years in office. I just hope the public and the media believe me and
will be patient with me."

Wynn, a veteran of the Iraq War, claimed he was attacked by


multiple off-duty police personnel in the driveway outside his
residence last month.

It was learned from Herrin Police Chief Stu Ridings that a part-time
dispatcher with the department was one of the men state police
were investigating. The dispatcher later resigned.

Sheriff Tom Cundiff confirmed that two individuals associated with


his department were also among those investigated. One, he said,
is a full-time deputy now on paid administrative leave and the other
had applied for a volunteer position with the auxiliary.

Energy Police Chief Shawn Ladd also confirmed that one of his
officers was being investigated from the altercation. The names of
the police officers and dispatchers accused of the assault were
withheld by authorities during the course of the investigation.

"After the test results come back from the crime lab, I will review
the law before making my final decision," Garnati said.

The veteran prosecutor took exception to a question directed at him


about police personnel receiving privileged treatment in the
withholding of their names and charges.

"If an arrest had been made on that night, the names would have
been released as is customary," he said. "I understand you're all
dying to know names, which would make you all (media) happy,
but from an ethics standpoint, I'm not allowed to do that."

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Garnati said he attempted to speak with Wynn on Monday but was


unable to make connections. Garnati instead spoke with Wynn's
father, Bill.

"I explained the situation to him and told him I would be handling
the case," Garnati said.

Garnati added that there remains the possibility he would excuse


himself from the case and ask that a special prosecutor be
appointed.

In order for that to happen, Garnati said he would have to file a


petition to one of the judges in the circuit court stating why he feels
it is necessary to be dismissed from the case. The judge would
consider the request and make his decision as to whether such
action is necessary.

"I've done that more than a couple of times in my 23 years here,"


he said.

john.homan@thesouthern.com

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GC Marciano Re: No names, charges yet in police assault case


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
quote:

Originally posted by Thawed


Charles Garnati threw a curveball at the media
Tuesday morning when he said he was not yet
ready to file any charges or release names of
law enforcement personnel investigated in the
Aug. 13 assault of Derek Wynn of Herrin.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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They are taking an unusually long amount of time to cover this


one up, aren't they?

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09-05-2007 02:13 PM

Thawed My prediction is: Money talks


Member

Time takes care of a lot of things! It takes time to work out a


Registered: Sep 2007 money setttlement for these off duty officers.
Location:
Posts: 32 My prediction of events:
1 -The officer(s) will be charged with at least one felony if not more.

2- All will plead not quilty and they will all wave their prelimanery
hearing.

3- The attorneys will work it out so a sizeable restitution amout will


be paid up front and they will all be allowed to plead quilty to one
misdemeaner. They will only have to pay fines as punisment and
the restitution.

4- As part of that plea the ones that haven't will resign but that
makes them elgible to still work as a police officer somewhere else!

5- This will not prevent the family from suing these officers but they
will stand on their own and the departments will not be part of any
lawsuit!

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09-06-2007 09:23 AM

Thawed Found this?


Member

This was posted on topix forum that I found on this matter.


Registered: Sep 2007 "First of all, it had nothing to do with marriage or even girlfriends.
Location:
Posts: 32 Both cops and the civilian are single. It was a simple bar argument
that the victim wisely backed away from. He was followed to his
house by county cop, Kyle Rinella. Rinella brought his two
accomplices (the Energy officer/Herrin dispatch, Kyle Murray - and
the civilian who does not need to be named here). Rinella is the son
of Marion Fire Chief, Anthony Rinella (who btw is currently one of
the candidates seeking to fill the late Bob Boyt's City Commissioner
vacancy." http://www.southernillinoisan.com/articles/20... )

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GC Marciano Officers Indicted In August Beating


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Last updated 11:44 pm CT October 27, 2007.

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=3350&type=top

WILLIAMSON CO -- A Williamson County Grand Jury hands


down indictments against three law enforcement officers and a
civilian accused of beating Derek Wynn of Herrin. The incident
occurred on August 13 after a confrontation at a local nightclub.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Those indictments include: Williamson County Sheriff's Deputy
Posts: 9967 Kyle Rinella; Herrin Police officer Clinton Ronchetto; and
Kyle Murray who worked for both Herrin and Energy Police.

Also included is Michael Carruthers who was offered a


position with the Williamson County Auxiliary Police, but that
offer was later withdrawn.

State's Attorney Charles Garnati is convinced there's more to it.


“The grand jury and I have reason to suspect other people are
involved,” Garnati said.

According to court documents while Wynn sat in his car at


Chevie's Lounge in Herrin Rinella grabbed his shirt. Later at
Wynn's home the group blocked him from leaving his vehicle.
The charges said the officers broke out the window to Wynn's
car, punched him in the face, struck him in the back, grabbed
his leg, and tried to pull him out of his car.

Garnati says waiting until now to arrest them has allowed him
to find nearly a dozen witnesses. “If I would have pulled the
trigger earlier, than I would have never knew about them.”

Garnati says the investigation is extremely thorough. According


to the charges, there was a message left on a cell phone from
one officer to another about the beating. Because that message
was deleted --Ronchello was charged with Obstruction of Justice.

All four face misdemeanor and felony charges. Garnati says he's
looking for more information from witnesses-- and wants them
to know they could be charged with obstruction of justice if they
lie to investigators.

Garnati says he plans to prosecute the case but expects the


investigation to possibly continue into next year. Each of the
four men indicted face a range of charges in connection with the
beating.

Murray resigned from his job with Herrin but remains on paid

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leave with the Energy Police departments. Rinella remains on


paid leave from the Williamson County Sheriff's Department.

Late Monday afternoon Herrin Mayor Vic Ritter told News 3 that
Herrin officer Clinton Ronchetto was placed on paid leave.

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GC Marciano Kyle Renella is also implicated in the county jail beating of a


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Sesser, IL man two weeks before this beating.

The media has conveniently neglected to mention this


connection.

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GC Marciano Two Accused In Herring Beating Face More Charges


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http://www.wpsdtv.com/news/local/st...60-126f9ffd8ef1

Two of the four men accused in a Herrin beating face new


charges in connection to another assault.

Kyle Murray a former Energy police officer and Michael


Carruthers, who was applying for a sheriff's auxiliary position at
Registered: Jul 2003 the time are charged with beating up two Carterville men.
Location: Chicago, Illinois They're charged with battery, aggravated battery and unlawful
Posts: 9967 restraint in the October 20th incident.

The two are already facing numerous charges in connection with


the assault of a Herrin man back in August.

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GC Marciano Murray and Carruthers Charged Again!


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Last updated 5:43 pm CT November 12, 2007.

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=3456&type=top

CARTERVILLE -- State's Attorney Chuck Garnati held a press


conference at his home in Carterville Saturday morning to
announce that yet another set of charges have been brought
against Kyle Murray and Michael Carruthers.

Registered: Jul 2003 The two are being accused of beating another man just
Location: Chicago, Illinois one day before Murray and Carruthers were charged with
Posts: 9967 the beating of Derek Wynn of Herrin. "Derek Wynn's case is
Derek Wynn's case," Garnati explained. "This is a totally
separate incident."

According to Garnati, the incident occurred at a private


residence in Carterville late on October 20 and into the early
morning hours of October 21.

The most recent charges include one count each of Aggravated


Battery, two counts of Battery, and one count of Unlawful
Restraint. And like the Wynn case, Murray and Carruthers did
not act alone. Garnati said 22-year-old Justin Poole of Marion
faces the same charges as the other two. Also, 21-year-old
Casey Morris of Carterville, is charged with one count of
Aggravated Battery and two counts of Battery. He was not,
however, charged with Unlawful Restraint.

"The only commonality is that Mr. Murray and Mr. Carruthers


are charged in both cases," Garnati reiterated.

Murray is already facing ten charges in the Derek Wynn case,


while Carruthers is facing eight charges.

Murray was still employed by the Energy police department at


the time of this latest incident. According to Garnati, Murray
could technically be charged for official misconduct, but said he
does not see that happening.

Garnati is not sure how these new charges will affect Murray
and Carruthers' current situation. "I don't have a crystal ball,
and can't predict the future," he said. "Only time will tell."

All four men are currently out on bail.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano Gag Order Filed in Herrin Beating Case


Copwatcher Extraordinaire 3:57 pm CT November 19, 2007

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=3521&type=top

WILLIAMSON CO.-- The four off-duty officers charged with


beating a Herrin man appeared in Williamson County court
Monday morning.

All face several felony charges stemming from the alleged


Registered: Jul 2003 beating of Derek Wynn last August.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 The defendants are Kyle Murray- a former Energy police officer;
Kyle Rinella- a Williamson County sheriff's deputy; Clint
Ronchetto- with the Herrin police department; and Michael
Carruthers-- who had been up for the sheriff's auxiliary.

All four have entered not guilty pleas, but the big story Monday
was that Williamson County State's Attorney Chuck Garnati is
filing for a gag order in this case. That's a request for himself,
and the attorneys for the four accused men, to refrain from
speaking to the media.

Inside a Williamson County court-room, Garnati explained that


the four accused men in this case would not have a fair trial
unless their lawyers would stop talking to the media.

Those attorneys responded by pointing out recent news


conferences held by the state's attorney.

"Our position is Mr. Garnati has already given 3 interviews on


TV" says attorney John Drew, who is representing Clint
Ronchetto.

Drew says it's only right that he be able to tell his position too.

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"I think Garnati was inappropriate in doing that in the first


place, but he has done it and there's no taking it back" he says.
"I think the rules permit us to respond so that the jury pool isn't
poisoned."

Attorneys for the four men have until November 28th to file any
objections to the gag order.

A hearing will be held on the morning of November 28th to


discuss the gag order, and whether or not it will be granted.

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More charges filed in Herrin beating case


http://www.thesouthern.com/articles...al/22506194.txt

Registered: Jul 2003 By Bethany Krajelis, The Southern


Location:
Posts: 31403 MARION - Sixteen new charges were filed Thursday in the ongoing
Williamson County case that accuses four men of beating a Herrin
man in August, court documents show.

In October, the four men, all of whom had ties to law enforcement,
were indicted by a grand jury with a combined total of 46 counts of
charges stemming from the alleged Aug. 13 beating of Derek Wynn.

The charges range from official misconduct and unlawful restraint to


battery and mob action.

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That list grew to 61 counts Thursday, one day after another


gathering of the grand jury. Williamson County State's Attorney
Charles Garnati would not comment on the new charges, most
likely a result of an agreement made between the attorneys to keep
quiet in lieu of a gag order.

Michael Carruthers, Kyle Murray, Kyle Rinella and Clinton Ronchetto


were each charged Thursday with conspiracy to commit battery,
according to court documents. The misdemeanor charge also states
that in addition to the conspiracy, Rinella offered someone a "free
pass" in Williamson County if he gave up Wynn's address.

Court documents show a list of at least 38 witnesses that Garnati


might call at trial, which has not yet been scheduled. The
prosecution's evidence, according to the documents, includes cell
phone records, police reports and statements, surveillance videos
and cassette tapes, and DNA swabs from the four men.

One of the items listed includes a one-page report regarding a call


Rinella reportedly made to an officer with the Southern Illinois
Enforcement Group "to set up Derek Wynn on a drug deal." Also
listed is a three-page report regarding Ronchetto's investigation of
a theft at the Herrin Gas Mart that took place the same day as the
Wynn's beating.

Ronchetto's attorney, John Drew, said at the November court


hearing that his client was working Aug. 13 and could not have
been involved in the beating. He further questioned why Garnati
filed 15 counts against his client, the most out of the four men.

The recent filing of charges brings Ronchetto's number of counts to


21, Rinella to 18, Murray to 13 and Carruthers to nine. Murray,
Rinella and Ronchetto were charged with additional counts of official
misconduct based on violations of their police department's
procedures.

At the time of the August incident, Murray was an Energy police


officer and part-time Herrin dispatcher, Rinella was a sheriff's
deputy, Ronchetto was a Herrin police officer and Carruthers was
applying for a position with the sheriff's auxiliary.

Since the allegations surfaced, all of the defendants have either


been placed on administrative leave, resigned or in Carruthers' case
was not hired. A Dec. 21 court date has been set for the four.

Besides this case, Murray and Carruthers were charged last month
in connection with the Oct. 20 alleged beating of Carterville
residents McCaine Daughtery and Justin Parker. Murray and
Carruthers, along with Justin Poole, 22, of Marion and Casey Morris,
21, of Carterville, are scheduled to appear in court Dec. 17.

Rinella is also the co-defendant in an $8.8 million civil lawsuit. He


and Jeff Hutchinson, a county jailer, are accused of police brutality

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and excessive force stemming from the Aug. 4 alleged beating of


Sesser resident Tony Swift.

Last month, Marion resident Donald Huse filed a lawsuit against


Williamson County Sheriff Tom Cundiff and seven of the sheriff's
employees for nearly $35 million, claiming he was repeatedly
assaulted and Tasered during a five-month stay in the jail.

bethany.krajelis@thesouthern.com

351-5816

TIMELINE

Aug 4: Alleged beating of Sesser resident Tony Swift

Aug. 13: Alleged beating of Herrin resident Derek Wynn

Oct 20: Alleged beating of Carterville residents McCaine Daughtery


and Justin Parker

Oct 22: Indictments handed down against Michael Carruthers, Kyle


Murray, Kyle Rinella and Clinton Ronchetto in connection with the
alleged beating of Wynn

Oct 24: Tony Swift files federal lawsuit against Kyle Rinella and Jeff
Hutchinson

Nov. 20: Donald Huse files federal lawsuit against county sheriff
and seven jailers regarding alleged beatings that took place from
Aug. 30, 2006 to Jan. 13, 2007

Published on: Saturday, December 8, 2007 11:20 PM CST

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Navigatr1 Wynn's lawsuit gets moved to federal court


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Wynn's lawsuit gets moved to federal court


http://www.thesouthern.com/articles...al/23298413.txt

Registered: Jul 2003 By Bethany Krajelis, The Southern


Location: Friday, February 8, 2008 10:51 PM CST
Posts: 31403
BENTON - Derek Wynn's civil case against three Williamson County
law enforcement officers will be handled at the federal level, not in
the local court where Wynn filed the $50,000 lawsuit last month.

The attorneys for the defendants - Kyle Murray, Kyle Rinella


and Clinton Ronchetto - recently filed paperwork asking that
the lawsuit be switched from Williamson County Court to the
United States District Court for the Southern District of
Illinois.

Federal court documents show Judge Michael J. Reagan has been


assigned to the case, which won't be heard until next year. A Feb.
13, 2009, final pre-trial conference and a March 9, 2009, trial have
been set, according to documents.

The lawsuit accuses the three men of threatening, restraining and


beating Wynn on Aug. 13. Murray, Rinella and Ronchetto along with
Michael Carruthers, who at the time had applied for the sheriff's
auxiliary, are also facing criminal charges in connection with the
Aug. 13 incident. Carruthers is not named in the civil suit.

At the time of Wynn's allegations, Murray was an Energy police


officer, Rinella was a sheriff's deputy and Ronchetto was a Herrin
police officer. Since their October indictment, the men have either
been placed on administrative leave, resigned or, in Carruthers'
case, were not hired.

Wynn's attorney, Patricia S. Murphy, could not be reached for


comment Friday. A phone number listed for Murphy's office in
Energy had been disconnected and an e-mail was not immediately
returned.

Carbondale lawyer John C. Ryan said he asked for the switch to


federal court for a number of reasons. He said Wynn's claims fit
under federal civil rights statutes, adding that because federal court
officials deal with these types of cases more they may be more
familiar with the process than local officials.

In addition to the basic right the defendants have to ask for the
transfer, Ryan said with the amount of publicity the criminal case
has received, the defendants may have a better chance in federal

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GC Marciano Former Police Officer Pleads Guilty in Beating Case


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Posted: May 19, 2008 06:32 PM

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=8349487

HERRIN, Ill. - A former Williamson County deputy pleads guilty


in the beating of a Herrin man.

Kyle Rinella entered the plea on charges of mob action,


criminal trespassing, and battery.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois The victim, Derek Wynn, says Rinella is one of four men who
Posts: 9967 confronted him at a bar and then again at his home.

Rinella's guilty plea to the felony charge of mob action means


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rogerwilco tony swift vs kyle rinella, jeff hutchinson


Junior Member this federal lawsuit is set for march 2009

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GC Marciano Swift v. Rinella et al


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Plaintiff: Tony Swift
Defendant: Kyle A. Rinella and Jeff Hutchinson

Case Number: 3:2007cv00748


Filed: October 24, 2007
Court: Illinois Southern District Court
Office: East St. Louis Office
County: Williamson
Registered: Jul 2003 Presiding Judge: Judge Michael J. Reagan
Location: Chicago, Illinois Referring Judge: Mag Judge Philip M. Frazier
Posts: 9967
Nature of Suit: Civil Rights - Other Civil Rights
Cause: 28:1331
Federal Question: Other Civil Rights
Jurisdiction: Federal Question
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
Amount Demanded: $8,900,000.00

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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Copwatcher Extraordinaire 7:31 pm CT February 02, 2010

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=9402&type=top

HERRIN-- The last officer charged in the 2007 beating of a


Herrin man is cleared of all charges. It is considered a big win
for Clinton Ronchetto, 32 of Herrin, after fighting a two-and-a-
half year court battle to clear his name.

Registered: Jul 2003 Officer Ronchetto was accused, with three others, in the beating
Location: Chicago, Illinois of Derek Wynn on August 13, 2007. One piece of paper, a
Posts: 9967 Motion to Dismiss, erases hundreds of pages of court
documents filed against Clinton Ronchetto. State's Attorney
Chuck Garnati says the hardest part for him was placing
Ronchetto at scene.

Four men were charged in all, including Energy Police Officer


Kyle Murray, Williamson County Sheriff's Deputy Kyle Rinella,
Williamson County Sheriff's Auxiliary candidate Michael
Carruthers, and Herrin Police Officer Clinton Ronchetto.

Everyone except Ronchetto took plea deals following the


charges. Ronchetto waited it out, even though he faced more
charges than any other involved, 15 counts in all.

Then Tuesday, attorneys for Ronchetto and the victim, Derek


Wynn, reached an agreement to drop all criminal charges
against Ronchetto. Williamson County State's Attorney Chuck
Garnati explains what led to the decision.

"Derek Wynn has received a significant amount of money from


a federal lawsuit that he filed against Mr. Ronchetto," Garnati
said.

Wynn filed civil charges against the four men in federal court

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following the attack. However, details of the settlement reached


in East St. Louis Monday are not known.

Garnati says Ronchetto was not present for Derek Wynn's


attack, but Ronchetto helped lead the three other men to
Wynn's home. He also deleted a voicemail left by Kyle Murray
following the attack.

"That voice message was something to the effect that, 'We just
beat some guy up,'" Garnati said.

Garnati says Tuesday's decision is a victory for Wynn, who has


endured the federal and circuit court battles since summer of
2007. However, it highlights a growing issue in the area:
officers ending up as defendants in the courtroom.

"About the last two-and-a-half years, we have indicted, arrested


or charged eight different police officers with criminal charges,"
Garnati said. "That's not good."

Herrin Mayor Vic Ritter says Ronchetto has been on paid


administrative leave since August 2007. Mayor Ritter says the
department needs him back on the force soon.

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Chalk one up for a great American HERO who stood up to a state


sponsored domestic terrorist thug Chicago copscum! Too bad he
was not able to get a few fingers and put this copscum bag out of
his tax grazing parasite job.

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January 18, 2010

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An off-duty Chicago Police officer was injured when he
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outside Gibson’s Bar and Steakhouse in the Near North


Side Gold Coast neighborhood Sunday night, police said.

About 9:30 p.m. the off-duty officer became involved in


a dispute with a 31-year-old man outside Gibson’s,
1028 N. Rush St., according to a police report.
Near North District officers who were already in the
area saw a disturbance and a struggle, during which
the officer identified himself as police but the other
man continued to refuse “verbal commands,’’ and bit
the officer, prompting responding officers to deploy a
chemical spray at him, the report said.

The officer suffered swelling and cuts to eye along with


a severe bite to the nipple. An ambulance transported
the officer to Northwester Memorial Hospital where he
was treated by a doctor who later said the victim lost a
body part because of severe damage from the bite,
according to the report.

The suspect suffered cuts and bruising to the face area


and was taken to Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical
Center for treatment, the report said.

During the struggle, the 31-year-old man allegedly


grabbed the officer's holster, according to the report.

Officers tried several times and eventually placed the


man, believed to be from Hazel Crest, into custody.
Charges were pending at 10:30 a.m. Monday.

Belmont Area detectives are investigating.

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Vigilance
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On second thought........I suppose you could say this American
HERO "took a bite out of crime".

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liberranter I certainly hope the "suspect" underwent a thorough medical


Super Moderator examination and that he was given a battery of shots. God only
knows what kind of heinous diseases he might have contracted
after biting a copscum.

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pyo1 quote:
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the officer identified himself as police but the other
Registered: May 2009 man continued to refuse “verbal commands,’’
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Can't believe anything they say. No badge, no ID, NO FOUL!

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Originally posted by pyo1

Can't believe anything they say. No badge, no


ID, NO FOUL!

Exactly. Since the article says that the cop was off duty, odds
are that he was acting like a drunken, obnoxious asshole and
Registered: Jun 2005
probably started the altercation. Then, of course, once he
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 found that his mouth had written a check that his pansy ass
couldn't cash, he did what all swine do, even when breaking the
laws they're supposed to uphold: whipped out his state-issued
piece of costume jewelry and his state-issued firearm (which
was issued to him only for use in the course of his official
duties, not as his personal "safety blanket" to be carried around
like an extension of his dick) and exercised his "authoritah."

New proposed addition to the Copwatch Reform Platform:

Advocate that cops face the same felony AWDW charges in off
duty situations that would apply in their jurisdictions to any
citizen that brandished a weapon under similar circumstances,
especially when the cop's actions would otherwise be construed
as a crime.

This would go a long way toward preventing swine from using


their badges and service weapons to cover up their off-duty
misconduct, as was the case with the needledick CPD bitch in
this article.

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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

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pyo1 The first thing that strikes me in your comment is, if he has a dick,
Senior Member he needs to spit it out so the guy can understand what he is saying!

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http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=9212&type=top

FRANKLIN COUNTY-- A former Royalton police officer is in the


Franklin County jail Thursday night. Shawn Turner was arrested on
Wednesday and charged with official and disorderly conduct.

Turner made his first appearance in Franklin County court Thursday


morning. But, it's not the first time News 3 has been in contact with
Turner. In fact, just last month he sent News 3 several

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documents outlining his complaints against his former


employer the Royalton Police Department. And these felony
charges apparently stem from those issues.

Until recently, Shawn Turner was a lieutenant with the


Royalton Police Department. He'd been in local law enforcement
for years, including stints with Sesser and Johnston City. But, on
Monday, the Royalton City Council fired him. Two days later- he
was arrested.

"He's presumed innocent until proven guilty."

State police investigator John Lewis says, Turner came to


ISP with claims against the Royalton Police Department and
Chief- including allegations the Chief beat a civilian with a
flashlight back in July. Investigating those allegations lead state
police to question Turner...

"This investigation lasted a while, and the Franklin County State's


Attorney evidently thought we had enough evidence to obtain an
arrest warrant."

Turner is accused of forwarding allegations against the Chief


while knowing there was not reasonable ground for the
claims. He's also charged with breaking into a locked
evidence room at the Royalton Police Department. In the
letter given to News 3 by Turner, he states he did, in fact, break
into that locker. But, Lewis, will not confirm or deny many of the
details...

"There is very little we can say, or the state's attorney can say,
because we don't want to prejudice his case."

Before Turner was fired, he was on a 45 day suspension from the


department. Royalton's Police Chief, who did not want to talk to us
on camera, says the reasons for Turner's suspension and
termination will eventually come to light. And, as for the allegations
made by Turner, the Chief says they're totally untrue.

What will happen if Turner is convicted of these charges?

It's very unlikely he'll have much of a law enforcement career with
an arrest record. Law enforcement officials in the area confirm
Turner has put in applications at other police departments. Those
departments are aware of his arrest.

Turner will appear in Franklin County court again in early February.


He is currently being held on $20,000 bail.

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weren't followed to the letter during the arrest, or while


searching.

If the first step towards madness is to see connections


between random events where there are none, what is it to
pretend that undeniable connections don't exist?

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Jacoba If you ever wonder why there are few if any honest cops, here
Senior Member might be a good reason.

Registered: Jun 2009 You document criminal activity of your coworkers, you forward it to
Location: the State and then the state arrests you for giving them the
Posts: 439 information!!!

JFC!?!?!?!

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searching.

If the first step towards madness is to see connections


between random events where there are none, what is it to
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Jacoba Re: Police Lt. files criminal complaint against his Chief...but he gets
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Registered: Jun 2009 quote:


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It's very unlikely he'll have much of a law enforcement
career with an arrest record. Law enforcement officials
in the area confirm Turner has put in applications at
other police departments.

There it is folks!

He tries to do the right thing, notifies the state of possible criminal


actions by his Chief and he gets rolled.

It's all about protecting the FATAZZ BLUE LINE, get rid of those
who are honest and those who will sound the alarm on the
corruption!!

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The police practice of giving false testimony in a criminal
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searching.

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GC Marciano Misconduct charges filed against Royalton officer


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Mona Sandefur
Benton Evening News
Fri Jan 08, 2010, 01:31 PM CST

http://www.bentoneveningnews.com/ne...oyalton-officer

Benton, Ill. - Shawn E. Turner, 38, of Royalton appeared in a


Franklin County courtroom Thursday following his arrest.

Registered: Jul 2003 An arrest warrant filed Jan. 6 in Franklin County Circuit Court
Location: Chicago, Illinois alleges that Turner be brought to justice to answer one count of
Posts: 9967 official misconduct and one count of disorderly conduct.

Franklin County State’s Attorney Tom Dinn filed the charges,


stating that on or about Oct 15, 2009, Turner committed the
offense of official misconduct.

The charges allege that Turner, while acting in his official


capacity as a police officer, knowingly performed an act that he
knew was forbidden by law.

Count 1 alleges that Turner committed criminal trespass to


state-supported land by entering the locked evidence room of
the Royalton Police Department. The charge is a Class 3 felony.

Count 2 alleges that Turner committed the offense of disorderly


conduct, stating that he knowingly transmitted a report stating
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battery, excessive use of force and official misconduct.

The report was transmitted to the Illinois State Police at Du


Quoin. Count 2 alleges that Turner knew there was no
reasonable grounds for believing that such offenses had been
committed. The charge is considered a Class 4 felony.

Turner was arrested Thursday. During Turner’s court


appearance, public defender Eric Dirnbeck was assigned to the
case. A preliminary hearing has been set for 1:30 p.m. Feb. 3.

Bail was set at $20,000.

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Prosecutors seek Northwestern journalism students’ grades

November 8, 2009

ASSOCIATED PRESS
Registered: May 2008 A Northwestern University professor and journalism students who
Location: spent three years investigating the case of a man convicted in the
Posts: 4812 1978 killing of a security guard believe they have evidence that
shows prosecutors put the wrong man behind bars. But in the quest
to prove his innocence, they may have to defend themselves, too.

Cook County prosecutors have outraged the university and the

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journalism community by issuing subpoenas to professor David


Protess seeking his students’ grades, his syllabus and their private
e-mails. Prosecutors claim since the team was made up of students,
they may have been under pressure to prove the case to get a good
grade.

It’s a first for Protess and his investigative reporting students, who
have helped free 11 innocent men from prison, including death row,
since 1996. Their work also is credited with prompting then-Gov.
George Ryan to empty the state’s death row in 2003, re-igniting a
national debate on the death penalty.

“Why are we talking about our grades when we should be talking


about whether there’s an innocent man in prison?” said Evan Benn,
a former Protess student mentioned in the state’s subpoena. None
of the students has been individually subpoenaed.

The prosecutor’s office — led by Anita Alvarez, who last year was
elected Cook County state’s attorney on a reputation for toughness
— said it’s just being thorough, and wants to determine if students
may have skewed their findings to get a good grade.

“It’s been framed as a witch hunt or a fishing expedition, and it’s


not,” said Sally Daly, spokeswoman for Alvarez. “We’re engaging in
a discovery process as we would in any criminal investigation.”

Northwestern’s lawyers have filed a motion to quash the


subpoenas, and the judge may act on that Tuesday, when a hearing
is set to hear arguments about whether there should be a new trial
in the case. In the prosecution’s response, they argue that Protess
and his students aren’t journalists and therefore aren’t protected by
reporters’ privilege.

John Lavine, dean of Northwestern’s Medill School of Journalism,


considers that argument chilling.

“I don’t think the prosecution in a criminal case ... or the defense


ever ought to be able to say we decide who is a journalist,” Lavine
said. “They should never have that right.”

Protess and his students spent three academic years investigating


the case of Anthony McKinney, a suburban Chicago man serving a
life sentence for killing a security guard in 1978. After interviewing
witnesses and inspecting documents, they’re convinced that
McKinney had nothing to do with the murder.

Several witnesses told the students that they implicated McKinney


in the murder only after they were beaten by police. Northwestern’s
legal clinic filed a petition seeking a new trial.

Prosecutors conceded a hearing was warranted but also sought all


the students’ notes, unpublished memos and reimbursements for
their expenses. Daly insists the subpoenas are justified because of
information that Alvarez’s office has uncovered, but would not

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elaborate.

“It goes to the interest and the bias of the students,” she said. “Did
they receive a better grade in the class? Was there incentive for
these students to develop additional information (about McKinney’s
innocence)?”

Protess and his students call that claim ridiculous — especially since
the prosecutor’s office has never asked for such records before
relating to investigations by the Medill Innocence Project, founded
by Protess in 1999. Legal experts also said it’s a rare request.

“It’s extremely unusual to go after that kind of background material


about the investigators because none of that is legally relevant to
guilt or innocence,” said Frank LoMonte, executive director of the
Arlington, Va.-based Student Press Law Center. “It is worrisome
that the response of the justice system is not to interview the
witnesses, but to investigate the investigators.”

Protess and his students have investigated nearly a dozen high-


profile cases, several involving men on death row — including the
Ford Heights Four, who were exonerated by DNA evidence in a
double murder, and Anthony Porter, who was exonerated roughly
48 hours before he was to be executed. In some of the cases,
Protess’ students found that police had bullied or coerced false
confessions, and Illinois has paid out tens of millions of dollars to
some of those who were wrongly convicted.

But in two cases they investigated in the last five years, students
who found compelling evidence of prisoners’ guilt still got As in his
class, Protess said, so students had no reason to pad their findings
in the McKinney case.

“Students are rewarded for advancing the cause of truth, regardless


of where the facts lead them,” he said.

The American Society of News Editors is asking Alvarez’s office to


reconsider the subpoenas, calling them “a wide-ranging, unfounded
sweep for information” that violates the Illinois reporters’ privilege
statute. That statute protects reporters from having to reveal their
sources and other information uncovered during newsgathering,
including notes and e-mails.

Meanwhile, prosecutors have declined to release records of the


police officers who were involved in McKinney’s case, and have also
rebuffed a Protess offer to release students’ grades in exchange for
prosecutors’ performance reviews.

Benn, the former Protess student, said he thinks the prosecutors’


motives are clear.

“The state’s attorney’s office is trying to save itself from the


embarrassment of students finding another innocent man in
prison,” he said.

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that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
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Students Who Exposed 30-Year-Old Wrongful Conviction Being


Targeted By Chicago DA

By Ari Berman, The Nation

Posted on November 9, 2009, Printed on November 10, 2009


Registered: May 2008 http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/ww...ion.com/143817/
Location:
Posts: 4812 There's a very important editorial in The Nation this week that I
hope everyone will take the time to read. It's about the wrongful
conviction of Anthony McKinney, who's been in prison for thirty-one
years for a murder he did not commit. I'm posting the relevant
portions below.

On the evening of September 15, 1978, a white security guard


named Donald Lundahl was murdered in a robbery gone awry in a
racially fraught southern suburb of Chicago. Police fingered Anthony
McKinney, an 18-year-old African-American with no criminal record,
as the killer. The prosecution sought death by lethal injection; the
judge sentenced McKinney to life in prison.
McKinney has long maintained his innocence. Based on newly
uncovered evidence, there's strong reason to believe that he has
spent thirty-one years in prison for a crime he did not commit.

...In 2000 the Land of Lincoln's Republican governor, George Ryan,


issued a moratorium on the death penalty, and in 2003 he granted

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clemency to all death-row inmates. Ryan announced his decision at


Northwestern University, citing the work of Northwestern journalism
professor David Protess and his students at the Medill School of
Journalism, who had uncovered evidence that helped free five
wrongly convicted men from death row.

In 2003 Protess and his students began examining McKinney's case.


Over three years of painstaking reporting, they unearthed startling
new evidence: the prosecution's two main witnesses, 15 and 18 at
the time of the trial, recanted their testimony during interviews with
the students, claiming they were beaten by the police and
intimidated into doctoring the facts; McKinney alleged that he was
beaten with a pipe by a detective with a history of police brutality
before signing a sham confession; TV logs proved that both
witnesses were watching a boxing match at the time of the shooting
and thus could not have seen the murder; an ex-gang member,
Anthony Drake, confessed on tape to being at the murder scene,
named two perpetrators and said McKinney was not involved;
current and former residents of the neighborhood confirmed they
heard Drake and two other suspects confess to Lundahl's murder.

In 2006 the Medill Innocence Project turned over its findings to the
Center on Wrongful Convictions at Northwestern's law school. The
center shared the evidence with the Cook County State's Attorney's
Office, which began an internal investigation the following year.
After more than a year of delay by the state, the center filed a
postconviction petition on behalf of McKinney in October 2008,
calling for a new trial or his immediate release. Following her
election that November as Cook County State's Attorney, hardline
career prosecutor Anita Alvarez fought the discovery of new
evidence, and in May she issued a sweeping, unprecedented
subpoena ordering Protess to hand over all material related to the
McKinney case--including students' private memos and grades.
Alvarez insultingly suggested that students might receive better
grades for uncovering exculpatory evidence and claimed that
Protess and his students were "investigators," not journalists, and
thus not subject to the Illinois shield law...Apparently Alvarez has
never heard of investigative journalism.

...The state's subpoena, wielded to stall justice and intimidate those


who seek it, sets a terrible precedent. Lawyer Barry Scheck says
that in his seventeen years at the Innocence Project in New York,
he's never seen a subpoena of this nature directed at journalists or
lawyers. Concludes Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at
George Washington University, "It creates an enormous chilling
effect that's positively glacial."

Judge Cannon will soon rule on the validity of the state's subpoena.
We urge her to throw it out and order a prompt evidentiary hearing.
The kind of difficult reporting undertaken by the Medill Innocence
Project should be celebrated, not undermined. It's shocking that the
state would rather keep an innocent man behind bars than admit a
mistake.

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Nine groups of student journalists from Medill have interviewed


McKinney in prison. By their accounts, he's a fragile and gentle man
who's battled severe depression during three decades of wrongful
incarceration. "If the state had gotten its way," Protess notes, "he
would have been executed long ago."

I was one of those students. I took Protess's class in the spring of


2004 and worked on McKinney's case. The experience became the
highlight of my time at Medill. My team and I were just twenty-one
and twenty-two at the time, thrust into unfamiliar environs on the
South Side of Chicago and elsewhere, trying to ferret out the facts
of a murder that occurred before any of us were born. David's
class, more than any other, taught me how to be a reporter, how to
make make difficult decisions in a quick and decisive manner and
how to always strive for justice and empathy in my work. (CNN
anchor and McKinney alum Nicole Lapin has also posted a great
piece about her own experiences.)

Find out the truth, David told us. That was his only mandate. Our
work on the McKinney case strongly convinced me of his innocence.
The facts were startling and overwhelming. We hoped that after the
Center on Wrongful Convictions shared our evidence with the Cook
County State's Attorney's office, the state would see things from
our vantage point, treat the facts with respect and come to a
serious conclusion about McKinney's innocence, granting him a new
trial or full release. That hasn't happened. Instead, the state has
stalled its own investigation and hit Protess and his students with
an unprecedented subpoena that has far-reaching ramifications.

It's impossible to describe what it's like to work on a wrongful


convictions case until you've actually done it. The work eats at you
and wrenches at your heart. This case is not over. Justice can still
be done. David taught us to believe, perhaps naively, that the truth
is powerful enough to set someone free.

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Posts: 1565 Two witnesses told investigators they were paid during a probe by
Northwestern University journalism students into a 1978 shotgun
slaying that the students believe unjustly sent a Harvey man to
prison for life, prosecutors alleged Tuesday.

The witnesses told investigators with the Cook County state's


attorney's office that they were given money in the hopes that their
statements would help free Anthony McKinney, convicted of
murdering a security guard, prosecutors said in a court filing. The
witnesses were identified as Tony Drakes and Michael Lane.

"This evidence shows that Tony Drakes gave his video statement
upon the understanding that he would receive cash if he gave the
answers that inculpated himself and that Drakes promptly used the
money to purchase crack cocaine," according to the filing.

Prosecutors also said that students with Northwestern's Innocence


Project haven't turned over records of two interviews with Lane,
who told state investigators he was also paid "$50 to $100, but did
not sign anything or give information," the court filing alleges.

Professor David Protess, of the university's Medill School of


Journalism, called the filing "so filled with factual errors that if my
students had done this kind of reporting or investigating, I would
have given them an F."

Protess, the longtime director of the Innocence Project,


acknowledged that cab fare was paid but denied it was in exchange
for Drakes' statement putting himself at the scene of the crime.
Drakes says in a video taken by students that McKinney was not
present during the murder, but prosecutors say he later recanted
his videotaped statement.

In the video, Drakes also alleges that Lane was present at the
slaying. But the court filing says Lane later claimed to know nothing
about the murder and said he told that to students. Asked about
Lane, Protess said he could not discuss any off-the-record
interviews, even to refute their existence.

The court filing Tuesday was part of a series of hearings aimed at

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determining whether Northwestern will have to give the state's


attorney's office material such as students' grades and off-the-
record interviews.

So far, the students' efforts have helped get McKinney another shot
in court, and prosecutors say they are seeking the information in
preparation for that event.

In the latest filing, prosecutors allege that Drakes told them that
after a 2004 interview with the students, someone on the
investigative team paid a cabdriver $60 to take him from the
interview site in downstate Swansea to a gas station 2 miles away.
That amount was more than the fare and tip, and the leftover cash
-- $40 -- was given to Drakes, who used it to buy crack cocaine,
the filing states.

Evan Benn, who was one of the journalism students, said he


handed $60 to the driver, an amount determined by an estimated
fare the driver gave for Drakes' planned trip.

"We gave the money directly to the cabdriver, told him not to give
any of the money to (Drakes) and we got a receipt for that," Benn
said.

Andrew L. Wang contributed to this report.

--Georgia Garvey

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Prosecutor pushes smear campaign against students

Cook County D.A. uses the long arm of the law to harass journalism
students working on exonerating prisoners
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Recently, major news outlets reported that Anita Alvarez, the


district attorney for Cook County, Illinois, had subpoenaed the
grades, grading standards and electronic communications between
students and professors in the Medill Innocence Project.
Northwestern University runs the Medill project, which, during its
10-year history, has helped to secure the release of 11 innocent
inmates.

Medill journalism students in the project research claims of


innocence by incarcerated individuals. If the students believe the
claims have merit, they give the information to lawyers who then
decide whether to pursue legal relief. Medill students have gathered
evidence that seems to exonerate Anthony McKinney, who is
serving a life sentence for the 1978 murder of a security guard.
Another individual, Tony Drakes, confessed to the murder during a
videotaped interview with students.

The prosecutors' subpoena has sparked almost universal


condemnation. Many commentators view it as a blatant attempt to
harass the students and their professors and to chill advocacy on
behalf of wrongly convicted individuals.

The prosecutors, however, will likely get the documents they seek
-- unless a judge determines that the students are "journalists"
under Illinois law. If the judge treats the students as journalists,
then Illinois law would shield their communications from disclosure.

Full smear campaign

The merits of the subpoena depend solely upon the status of the
students under the Illinois journalistic shield statute. Nevertheless,
Alvarez has apparently decided to launch a full smear campaign
against the Medill project.

First, Alvarez defended the subpoena by claiming that she wanted


to know whether students received higher grades if they concluded
that inmates were innocent. Now, Alvarez has made the salacious
claim that Medill students paid two witnesses for their testimony.

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According to an article in the Wall Street Journal, Cook County


prosecutors argued in court yesterday that Drakes received $40
from a cab driver hired by the Medill project and that he used the
money to purchase "crack cocaine." Prosecutors also argued that
students paid Michael Lane, a friend of Drakes and possible
accessory to the murder, between $50 and $100 and "took him out
for ****tails and dinner and flirted with him." Prosecutors,
however, provided no other details regarding the payment to Lane.
These assertions reflect absolute hypocrisy and desperation by the
prosecutors.

Prosecutors "pay" witnesses all the time. In exchange for testimony


from witnesses, prosecutors pursue lesser charges, or they give
them full or partial immunity. They also drop pending charges in
other cases. Prosecutors also threaten harsher penalties if
witnesses refuse to cooperate. Indeed, it is probably likely that
prosecutors threatened Drakes, who confessed to a murder, with
severe penalties before he "recanted." In order to question the
students' credibility, Alvarez must also question the credibility of
prosecutors across the nation.

Furthermore, the prosecution's assertions seem highly unlikely.


Indeed, the Medill project has a simple explanation for the payment
to Drakes, which suggests that prosecutors made the allegation
purely for shock value, rather than substance. David Protess, the
professor who runs the Medill project, says students paid a cab
driver to transport Drakes and that he retains the receipt.

Protess also questions the sincerity of Cook County prosecutors who


seem to believe that Drakes would confess to murder for $40. But
these prosecutors are so desperate to conceal the truth that they
apparently do not care about their own reputations or the
reputations of the Medill students who pursue justice for wrongfully
convicted individuals.

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Police dispatch official admits misusing police database


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The former director of a police and fire dispatching agency


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Steven R. Cordes, 44, of Lake in the Hills, pleaded guilty in
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probation and ordered to pay $4,600 in restitution to his former


employer.

He had been arrested in October 2008 and charged with 18


counts of misconduct for misusing the LEADS system for
personal use while director of QuadCom, which dispatches
emergency calls for police and fire departments in five
municipalities in Kane and Cook Counties.

"This was for the love of a woman," Cordes attorney Joseph Di


Natale said. "Unfortunately, he blew a brilliant career."

Cordes' live-in girlfriend had become concerned about the


character of a young man dating her teen daughter, and Cordes
used the database system to check the young man's
background, Di Natale said.

"If someone is dating your girlfriend's daughter and you want to


find out if that someone has a criminal record, that's a perfect
way to do it," Di Natale said.

But, he noted, it's also illegal.

Kane County authorities alleged Cordes misused the system on


multiple occasions from 2006 to 2008, checking up on four
people. State law bars accessing LEADS, which stands for Law
Enforcement Agencies Data System, for personal use.

In return for Cordes' guilty plea, prosecutors dropped all but


one of the misconduct counts.

Cordes had been the director of QuadCom since 2000 before


losing his job last year after the emergency agency's directors
became aware of the misuse. QuadCom provides dispatch
services for Sleepy Hollow, East and West Dundee,
Carpentersville and South Barrington.

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Cops plan benefit for officer charged in fatal DUI (IL)

October 21, 2009 10:29 PM

See also the video

Chicago police officers are planning a benefit this weekend at


their union headquarters for Joseph Frugoli, who is accused of
crashing into a car while driving drunk on the Dan Ryan in April,
killing two people.

An invitation to the event is posted on the Web site of the

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Fraternal Order of Police, and appears next to the numbers "10-


1," radio code for officer in need of assistance.

"You're invited to assist Detective Joe Frugoli," the posting reads.


Tickets cost $50. A detective lists his name and phone number for
further information.

Police said Frugoli's blood-alcohol content was more than three


times the legal limit when his Lexus SUV struck a car that had
pulled over on the Dan Ryan Expressway north of 18th Street. The
car exploded into flames and killed Andrew Cazares, 23, and
Fausto Manzera, 21.

Frugoli is also accused of leaving the scene.

FOP President Mark Donahue distanced the organization from


the event, saying it was planned by some of the officer's friends.

Donahue said FOP members have a right to use the building, and
emphasized that the FOP was not involved or advocating one way
or the other regarding the Frugoli case.

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Cook County Judge Donald Panarese Jr. set a $500,000 bail for
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Joseph Frugoli, Off-Duty Cop's Bond Set at $500,000, Accused of
DUI in Double-Fatal Crash in Chicago

The last thing anyone expects to happen is a cop being accused of


driving under the influence. Joseph Frugoli, 41, a Chicago police
detective, was charged on Friday with two counts of aggravated
driving under the influence, two counts of reckless homicide and
one count of leaving the scene of an accident. His bond was set at
$500,000 as he stands accused of killing two men, Fausto
Manzera, 21 and Andrew Cazares, 23, when he allegedly
plowed into a disabled car in a drunken-driving crash early Friday
on the Dan Ryan Expressway. Shameful. He was ordered held on
$500,000 bond at a Sunday hearing at the Cook County Criminal
Courthouse at 3100 S. California Ave. They shouldn't have set
bond for him. He should have been allowed to sit in jail until his
case goes to trial. Had that been you or I, that's the fate we would
have been dealt.

This bond is a travesty and it is a shame the law enforcement had


to take one of their own into custody for such an reprehensible
crime. According to the Chicago Sun Times, Frugoli was taken into
custody after he drove his black Lexus into a red Dodge Intrepid
that broke down in the southbound lanes of the Dan Ryan
Expressway (I-90/94) near the 18th Street ramp. Sources have
said that the 18-year-department veteran was taken to
Northwestern Memorial Hospital, where tests indicated his blood-
alcohol level was about triple the legal limit of .08, sources. He was
a ticking time bomb waiting to explode. To add insult to injury, the
police said that he was walking away from the crash scene when he
was apprehended. Shameful and it shows the depth of his character.

What's ironic is that this same police officer, just last week,
was ordered to pay Joseph Cairo $7,100 after a jury trial
involving a 2005 accident. He obviously did not learn his lesson
from that incident. He has been involved in other serious accidents.
Why wasn't this man's license suspended or why wasn't he
dismissed from the police force back then. The Chicago Police
Department said that Frugoli has been relieved of his police
powers. In addition to the traffic investigation being
conducted by the State Police, the Chicago Police
Department launched a probe by its Internal Affairs Division.
The bottom line is that this man's license should have been yanked
a long time ago. He did not belong behind the wheel of a car on any
street.

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liberranter It certainly shouldn't be surprising that the Chicago chapter of


Super Moderator the Fat Blue Line Gang is closing ranks to defend one if its
bangers.

quote:

"You're invited to assist Detective Joe


Frugoli," the posting reads. Tickets cost $50. A
detective lists his name and phone number for
further information.

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And if a sufficient number of citizens declines this "invitation",
there will be a noticeable spike in the number of traffic and
speeding citations, fines, and forfeitures made by the Chicago
PD.

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Posts: 1565 Anyone who attends this trash should have to pass through a line of
protesters who do not fear these scumbags!

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liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by pyo1

Anyone who attends this trash should have to


pass through a line of protesters who do not
fear these scumbags!

Speaking of which, does anyone in the forum know of any


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ordinary citizen/civilian who has ever attended one of these
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bored or socially-challenged enough or having that kind of
money to waste!

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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
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MGMAN Words can't describe how I feel when I read $hit like this. This
Senior Member nation is in terrible trouble when those that are suppose to be
keeping us safe (MGMAN being cynical here), are actually the ones
putting the public at risk.

Come on you damn piece of $hit lowlife cop trolls, defend this $hit!

Note to mods
I am sorry about the tone of my post, but because of things I can't
reveal I am very hostile where police are concerned right now.

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Members of the NCIS (Narcotics Criminal Investigation and Suppression team)


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DO NOT talk to cops, they are NOT your friend, and NOTHING good can come
from it. You have the right to stay silent, DO IT!

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liberranter quote:
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Come on you damn piece of $hit lowlife cop
trolls, defend this $hit!

There was a time not too long ago when some of the more
foolhardy among them would try, with predictably laughable
results. I haven't seen any do so recently, which tells me that
they've either been so overwhelmed by the exposure of their
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ crimes that they no longer visit, or they realize that trying to
Posts: 5865 defend the indefensible just makes them look even more like
idiots than is already evident.

quote:

Note to mods
I am sorry about the tone of my post, but
because of things I can't reveal I am very
hostile where police are concerned right
now.

No offense taken, MGMAN. I think I can safely say that all of us


feel the way you do when we read about some of the more
egregious crimes these despicable pieces of pigshit commit.
You'd think we'd be inured to it by now, considering how long
it's been going on, but fortunately we've still some idealism left
in us.

I hope that whatever is going on with you right now where cops
are concerned isn't causing you undo pain and suffering. I'm
sure I don't have to tell you to feel free to share it with us when
you feel the time is right, if ever.

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powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." -
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freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that


it values more, it will lose that too.
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Originally posted by pyo1
Anyone who attends this trash should have to
pass through a line of protesters who do not fear
these scumbags!

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quote:

Originally posted by liberranter


No offense taken, MGMAN. I think I can safely say
that all of us feel the way you do when we read
about some of the more egregious crimes these
despicable pieces of pigshit commit. You'd think
we'd be inured to it by now, considering how long
it's been going on, but fortunately we've still
some idealism left in us.
I hope that whatever is going on with you right
now where cops are concerned isn't causing you
undo pain and suffering. I'm sure I don't have to
tell you to feel free to share it with us when you
feel the time is right, if ever.

Perhaps in private messages with someone you trust here.

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"Better that ten guilty men go free than one innocent man be
convicted."
Sir William Blackstone, paraphrasing Genesis
Speed, surprise and violence of action.

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Police said Frugoli's blood-alcohol content was more


than three times the legal limit when his Lexus SUV
struck a car that had pulled over on the Dan Ryan
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Expressway north of 18th Street. The car exploded into
Posts: 31403 flames and killed Andrew Cazares, 23, and Fausto
Manzera, 21.

It is sad that the FOP is going to hold a benefit for Detective Joseph
Frugoli who is accused of killing 2 people after driving under the
influence at more than 3 times the legal limit. They should be
holding a benefit for the 2 people he killed and show their
compassion for his victims. However, since this is Chicago,
Detective Joseph Frugoli will probably be allowed to plea to a
misdemeanor under an agreement between either the city or
county and the FOP.

--Navigatr1

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Originally posted by Navigatr1

However, since this is Chicago, Detective


Joseph Frugoli will probably be allowed to
plea to a misdemeanor under an agreement
between either the city or county and the FOP.

--Navigatr1

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A much more likely outcome is that all charges will eventually
be dropped.

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October 18, 2009

BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter

Two employees at Chicago’s 911 emergency center have been


slapped with lengthy suspensions without pay for their roles in an
Aug. 28 dispatch delay that left an off-duty police officer to fend for
himself while being shot at by a car filled with alleged gang
members.

Ray Orozco, executive director of the city’s Office of


Emergency Management and Communications, identified the

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suspended employees as a dispatcher and his supervisor, but he


refused to name them.

Nor would he reveal the duration of the suspensions now being


served, citing privacy restrictions in the personnel code and union
contract. Other sources said the dispatcher’s punishment
could last as long as 45 days.

“This involves public safety. Whether it’s a citizen calling for help or
a police officer or firefighter, our job is to send the proper
resources,” he said.

Orozco acknowledged that six minutes and 10 seconds went by


before police were dispatched and that, by that time, the officer
under fire “was inside a police district,” where he had driven for
refuge.

“It shouldn’t have happened, and it won’t happen in the future,”


Orozco said.

A 10-1 — the term used to describe a call from an officer


who needs assistance — is the most serious of emergency
calls. It requires immediate dispatch.

The Chicago Sun-Times reported last month that Orozco had


launched an internal investigation to find out why that protocol was
not followed on Aug. 28.

Four men are facing first degree attempted murder charges after
allegedly following the unidentified Marquette District officer
and firing shots into his vehicle shortly after 3 a.m. The officer
reportedly kept driving while returning fire until he reached the
Harrison District station, where he sought help while the alleged
gang members drove off.

When the harrowing chase was over, sources said, the officer had
at least three bullet holes in his car, one of them between the front
and backseat doors on the driver’s side. That likely means one of
the shots narrowly missed hitting the back of the officer’s head.

A spokesman for Police Supt. Jody Weis refused to say whether


the superintendent is satisfied with the suspensions. Last month,
Weis sounded as if nothing short of firing would be enough.

“This incident is just reprehensible,” Weis said then. “We had an


officer [who] needed assistance and he didn’t get it. This just can’t
happen.”

Ray Orozco (inset) identified the suspended employees, but refused


to name them.
(Sun-Times News Group)

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Jody Peter "J.P." Weis

Jody Weis

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Jody Peter "J.P." Weis is the Superintendent of Police of the


Chicago Police Department. Weis was selected to serve as the
54th Superintendent of Police by Mayor Richard M. Daley. He
replaced former Superintendent of Police Philip J. Cline.
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741 LAKESHORE MEADOWS DR,
63038 GLENCOE - 636-256-2xxx

Glencoe is a village in Cook County, Illinois

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liberranter quote:
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Two employees at Chicago’s 911 emergency
center have been slapped with lengthy
suspensions without pay for their roles in an
Aug. 28 dispatch delay that left an off-duty
police officer to fend for himself while being
shot at by a car filled with alleged gang
members.

Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 So a blue-clad gangbanger gets into a gunfight with rival
gangbangers and expects special treatment from the same
criminally incompetent 911 system that lets ordinary citizens
die horrible deaths due to their apathy, incompetence, and
neglect. Well, my "sympathy lamp" is NOT lit for this clown. Let
him experience the same criminally negligent "service" that the
general public has to put up with!

quote:

“This involves public safety. Whether it’s a


citizen calling for help or a police officer or

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firefighter, our job is to send the proper


resources,” he said.

The only reason this is a story at all, and certainly the only
reason anyone is being disciplined is because the victim of the
911 system's criminal negligence in this case happens to be one
of the State's armed thugs. If the victim had been one of his
rival gangbangers or an ordinary citizen, there would be no
repercussions at all.

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Copwatcher Extraordinaire cell:

Crossbow suspect dies after fall


By DANA HERRA

http://www.daily-chronicle.com/arti...10/19/07806512/

DeKALB – Gary Aspengren, the Cortland man accused of


shooting an arrow through a woman's cheek last month in a
Registered: Jul 2003 domestic quarrel, died Monday morning after falling in his cell at
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the DeKalb County Jail and hitting his head.

According to DeKalb County Sheriff Roger Scott, deputies heard


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investigate. They found Aspengren, 64, lying on the floor with a


cut on his head, but he was conscious and able to talk to
deputies and the paramedics who arrived a few minutes later,
Scott said. He was taken to Kishwaukee Community Hospital,
then airlifted to OSF St. Anthony Medical Center in Rockford,
where he died about 7:20 a.m.

Aspengren was arrested Sept. 28 after police said he fired a


crossbow at his longtime companion, sending an arrow through
her cheek. He was being held on $650,000 bond and was
scheduled to appear in court Oct. 28 on charges of aggravated
domestic battery, armed violence, aggravated battery involving
great bodily harm and aggravated battery involving a weapon.

After the shooting, Aspengren's court-appointed attorney


requested a mental fitness evaluation because to concerns he
may not have been competent to aid in his defense. The result
of that evaluation was expected to be completed by the Oct. 28
court date.

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GC Marciano Interesting reader-submitted comments from the newspaper


Copwatcher Extraordinaire article:

Mr Kevin wrote on October 19, 2009 6:57 p.m.


"Falling deaths are so common in jails across the land
that a suspicious mind might wonder. "

jmueller wrote on October 19, 2009 7:50 p.m.


"Not suspicious? Just "falls" at 3am? Second death in the
jail this year I believe."
Registered: Jul 2003
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Devil's Advocate wrote on October 20, 2009 9:32 a.
m.
"Why is it that only Mentally ill people are dying in DeKalb
County jail? Gary is the seconed one this year."

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GC Marciano This is the second death in the small Dekalb County jail in six
Copwatcher Extraordinaire months:

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This is the second death in the small Dekalb
County jail in six months:

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Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ I thought it was just the city of Chicago that was trying to set
Posts: 5865 an Olympic record for the most corruption and violent citizen
deaths at the hands of rogue "law enforcement" personnel in
the shortest span of time. It appears from this thread that the
entire state of Illinois might be in on the quest.

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Coroner: Inmate died of asphyxiation


By KATE SCHOTT
Tuesday, April 7, 2009 12:03 a.m. CDT

http://www.daily-chronicle.com/arti...04/07/50916438/

The woman found unconscious in the DeKalb County Jail on


Registered: Jul 2003 Friday died of asphyxiation caused by hanging, the county
Location: Chicago, Illinois coroner said Monday.
Posts: 9967
Brandi L. Brantley, 19, who lived in DeKalb, was found by jail
officers about 2:45 p.m. Friday, covered with a blanket
on the floor of a visitation room at the county jail in
Sycamore. She was taken to Kishwaukee Community Hospital in

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DeKalb, where she was pronounced dead.

DeKalb County Coroner Dennis Miller said Brantley


strangled on a metal telephone cord, similar to those
found on pay phones. Toxicology results will not be ready for
several weeks, he said.

The visitation room has four partitions, each with a stool, which
is bolted to the floor, and a phone, affixed to the partition,
DeKalb County Sheriff Roger Scott said. The room also has a
video camera.

"It's not something I can explain in this situation at this


point," Scott said when asked how Brantley could hang
herself but be on the floor covered in a blanket. Brantley
had asked for and was given a blanket because she was cold,
Scott said. Scott said he wanted to wait for the final report
before commenting further.

Brantley had been alone in the visitation room since about


11:30 a.m. Friday, after she was taken into custody until she
could be transferred to a rehabilitation facility. She was placed
in that room because the jail's holding cells were full.

She did not show signs of suicidal behavior, Scott said, and she
was checked on at least once in the hour before she was found.

The DeKalb County Sheriff's Office has launched an


internal review into Brantley's death. Scott said that
investigators, who are separate from the jail staff, have
reviewed the video from that room but that he has not seen it
yet. The sheriff expects the internal review to take several days.

"It's a very thorough investigation," Scott said. "There are many


pieces to this puzzle that we need to follow up on."

The jail was required to notify the Department of Jail Standards


within the Illinois Department of Corrections within 72 hours of
the death, Scott said. The county did so Friday afternoon, he
added, and the internal review will be forwarded to that
department once it's completed. The county's state's attorney's
office also will get a copy of the review.

The last death in the county jail was May 23, 1995, when
inmate Robert R. Diaz hanged himself, Scott said. The county
was found by the state to be in compliance with jail standards
then, Scott said.

Brantley, a 2008 graduate of DeKalb High School, had been


admitted to the county's drug court program Friday during an
11 a.m. appearance at the DeKalb County Courthouse, Drug
Court Coordinator Marilyn Stromborg said.

Drug court is a five-phase program – which includes residential

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treatment, daily check-ins and frequent drug testing – that aims


to end the cycle of incarceration, release and new crimes that
lands addicts back in police custody.

Since 2006, Brantley had been arrested twice on misdemeanor


drug charges and pleaded guilty in both cases, according to
court documents. Six open cases of Brantley's were dismissed
Monday during a hearing at the DeKalb County Courthouse in
Sycamore.

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GC Marciano Re: 19 year old female "strangles self" in Dekalb County Jail:
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quote:

Originally posted by GC505


"It's our agency and our jail, we are
responsible for it," Scott said. "There is really
no one else that would be available to handle
this that has the needed background."
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967

Ahhh... the same old stale bullshit of the swine investigating


themselves.

If I'm suspected a crime, perhaps I can demand to be allowed


to investigate myself. After all, who would know about me
better than myself?

Then (in keeping with pigpen tradition) I can either clear myself
of any wrongdoing and close the investigation into myself, or

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find myself responsible for the crime and send myself a sternly-
worded letter and take a few days off of work as a suspension.

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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GC Marciano So she died of asphyxiation caused by hanging...


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Apparently she somehow found a way to "hang" herself with the
short 16 inch telephone cord mounted to the wall mere feet
above the floor until she lost consciousness, then she managed
to un-hang herself, lay on the floor and cover herself with a
blanket where she was found by the heroic jail staff, who
heroically attempted to revive her but alas, she died in their
arms.

Registered: Jul 2003 Right. I'm sure that's what happened.


Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 It's a good thing the Sheriff's Office investigated themselves in
this matter so the case could be closed. I'll bet the video
camera in the room was mysteriously "malfunctioning" that day
and wasn't able to record the incident, right Roger Scott?

Fucking douchebags.

If (God forbid) a Dekalb county deputy were ever found dead in


a ditch with his throat slit, hands tied behind his back with two
bullet holes placed execution-style in the back of the head, I
already have the case solved.

It was obviously a case of suicide.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano Now another inmate has suspiciously died in the Dekalb county
Copwatcher Extraordinaire jail:

This guy was alone in his cell when he "fell" and hit his head
hard enough to kill himself.

http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...8585#post138585

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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Adminstration leave for cop accused of making false arrests

October 10, 2009 12:20 PM

A Chicago police officer accused of making false drunk driving


arrests and lying on police reports has been taken off the street
while the department conducts an internal investigation, police said.

Officer Richard Fiorito has been placed on administrative desk


duty pending the outcome of the department's investigation into his
behavior, said Chicago Police spokesman Officer Robert Perez.

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Attorney Jon Erickson has filed federal civil rights lawsuits


against Fiorito on behalf of about two dozen people. The suit
claims that Fiorito, who worked in the Town Hall District in the
Lakeview neighborhood, trumped up DUI charges against them so
he could earn more overtime pay by appearing in court. Some
plaintiffs allege that Fiorito targeted them because they were gay
or disabled, court records show.

Last week Erickson released a police surveillance tape of the arrest


of one of the plaintiffs, Michael Vaughn. He said the tape shows
Vaughn was not inebriated and successfully completed field
sobriety tests without wavering before Fiorito placed him in
custody.

Fiorito's attorney, Dan Gallagher, contends, that the tape does


not indicate whether Vaughn wavered or not during the test. He
has said that Fiorito had probable cause to arrest Vaughn because
he was in a park after midnight, admitted to drinking and was with
a passenger who was suspected of having marijuana.

Gallagher was not immediately available to comment about his


client being placed on administrative leave.

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Lawsuits accuse Chicago Police Officer Richard Fiorito of false DUI
arrests, harassing gays

By Noreen S Ahmedullah
April 03, 2009

Seven federal lawsuits have been filed against a Chicago police


officer that allege he made false DUI arrests, used excessive force
and harassed gays and lesbians.

On Thursday, four Chicagoans filed lawsuits against Town Hall


District Police Officer Richard Fiorito in U.S. District Court in
Chicago. Three other people filed lawsuits in February.

All the plaintiffs accuse Fiorito of violating their civil rights by


falsifying DUI charges and other traffic violations against them.

Last year, Mothers Against Drunk Driving honored Fiorito for

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making 313 DUI arrests between Jan. 1, 2007, and June 6, 2008,
according to the group’s Web site.

Attorney Jon Erickson said Fiorito made up DUI charges in a


scheme to earn extra overtime pay.

Fiorito could not be reached for comment.

In some of the lawsuits, the plaintiffs have also said excessive force
was used against them, including in a suit filed in February, which
alleges Fiorito grabbed Shawn Rauch by the throat in the police
station, shoved him against a wall and called him a slur for a
homosexual.

Of the cases filed, prosecutors dismissed DUI charges against two


plaintiffs, and a jury found another not guilty of DUI. In another
case, a judge ruled the officer had no grounds to arrest the plaintiff
for DUI, Erickson said.

Jennifer Hoyle, a spokeswoman for the city’s Law


Department, wrote in an e-mail that the city was reviewing the
cases and could not comment on the allegations.

Officials at the city’s Independent Police Review Authority,


which looks into allegations of excessive force and bias-based
verbal abuse by officers, said the authority has received complaints,
and they are being investigated.

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Jennifer Hoyle
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Attorneys: Video Shows Cop Making False DUI Arrest

Officer Richard Fiorito Is Accused In Lawsuits Of Targeting Gays


And Lesbians

CHICAGO (CBS)

Dashboard video shows Chicago Police Officer Richard Fiorito


administering a field sobriety test to Michael Vaughn, who was later
arrested. Lawsuits claim Fiorito arrested people falsely for DUI and
targeted gay and lesbian motorists.

Attorneys say a video tells a different story than reports issued by a


Chicago Police officer accused of harassing gay and lesbian drivers
and making false drunken driving arrests.

The video released by attorney Jon Erickson shows Town Hall


District Officer Richard Fiorito administering a field sobriety test
on a man identified as Michael Vaughn.

Erickson claimed at a news conference that while Vaughn walked a


straight line and had no trouble keeping his balance in a test given
in the video, a police report claimed he couldn't keep his balance
and raised his arms.

"The reason why we have that document is that it demonstrates on


paper, under oath, that what we see in the video is the truth and
that what the officer says on his paper is a lie," Erickson said.

Vaughn was not offered a Breathalyzer test, Erickson said.

Fiorito is the subject of lawsuits by 21 people, who claim he


targeted gay and lesbian motorists for unwarranted DUIs in the
Boystown neighborhood.

The suits -- which allege Fiorito pulls over gay and lesbian drivers
who are not intoxicated, then arrests them for DUI -- also claims
other officers in Fiorito's district questioned the validity of his
arrests, and said he was trying to rack up overtime pay by
appearing in court.

The lawsuits claim Fiorito "frequently" used anti-gay epithets


during arrests, and accuse him of roughing some of them up.

Fiorito is among the state's highest writers of DUI tickets,


according to a release from Erickson and Thayer, arresting more
than 300 people for DUI last year.

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Last year, Mothers Against Drunk Driving honored Fiorito for


making 313 DUI arrests between Jan. 1, 2007, and June 6, 2008.

The video showed an arrest on June 21, after the lawsuits were
filed, Andy Thayer of the Gay Liberation Network said at the news
conference.

In August, civilians in the LGBT Subcommittee of the 23rd District


issued a resolution asking to have Fiorito's police powers removed,
according to the Windy City Times. But Fiorito remains on duty.

The Independent Police Review Authority told the Chicago Tribune


an investigation is pending against Fiorito.

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Sheriff seeking termination of deputy facing DUI charges


By TESA CULLI
September 15, 2009 09:12 pm

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MT. VERNON — The Jefferson County Sheriff is seeking to


terminate the employment of a deputy who has been charged
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
with driving under the influence of alcohol and failure to reduce
Posts: 9967 speed in Washington County.

Randall Nadolski, 39, of the 3000 block of North Cobalt Lane in


Scheller was involved in a one-vehicle accident on Aug. 16 on

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Radom Road south of the Radom curve while off duty and in his
personal vehicle. The initial 911 call came in to the Jefferson
County Justice Center at 3:15 a.m. on that day, but was
transferred to Washington County when it was determined the
accident happened in that county. Nadolski was transported to
Washington County Hospital for treatment of injuries sustained
in the crash.

An investigation into the accident conducted by the Washington


County Sheriff’s office was forwarded to Jefferson County
Sheriff Roger Mulch, and effective at 11:30 p.m. on Sept. 2,
Nadolski, a deputy captain with the Jefferson County Sheriff’s
office, was suspended with pay, in accordance with the union
contract between the Fraternal Order of Police, the sheriff’s
office and Jefferson County, according to Mulch.

“A letter of resignation was requested from Nadolski at this


time,” Mulch stated. “Nadolski was advised that his failure to
submit his resignation would result in the scheduling of a
disciplinary investigative interview. The resignation letter was
not submitted and Nadolski was noticed that the investigative
interview would take place on Monday, Sept. 14, 2009.”

After the interview and review of information provided by


Washington County, Nadolski received notice of his continued
suspension, this time without pay.

“Nadolski was noticed that the Jefferson County Sheriff would


immediately notify the Jefferson County Merit Commission and
request Nadolski’s continued suspension with the change of
without pay status, his demotion from deputy captain to patrol
status, and his termination from employment from the Jefferson
County Sheriff’s Office,” Mulch stated. “The Jefferson County
Merit Commission was notified and will be supplied all
investigative information in the very near future. Once noticed,
the Merit Commission will have 30 days to set the hearing date
in this matter.”

This is the third time Nadolski has been involved in an


investigation following car accidents. In April 2005, Nadolski
was found in the middle of a country road in the early morning
hours, and when deputies responded to the scene of the
incident, Nadolski was not in his vehicle, and did not answer the
door to his residence when deputies followed up with a well-
being check. At that time, Nadolski said he was tired and sick
and although he had been at a bar earlier in the evening, was
not intoxicated and alcohol played no role in the accident.
Nadolski was disciplined with three days without pay.

In December 2005, Nadolski was again found slumped over the


steering wheel of his personal vehicle under similar
circumstances. The Illinois State Police conducted an
investigation at that time and determined there were no
criminal charges to be filed. Nadolski had been placed on

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paid leave from January 2006 until the final ISP report was
issued to Mulch in March 2006.

Nadolski is scheduled to appear in Washington County Court for


a first appearance on the charges on Oct. 6.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
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Copwatcher Extraordinaire Wednesday, September 16, 2009

http://www.thesouthern.com/news/loc...1cc4c03286.html

MOUNT VERNON - Jefferson County Sheriff Roger Mulch has


asked for the termination of a department captain following an
August DUI arrest in Washington County.

A merit commission will make a decision on that request.


Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Court records show Randall R. Nadolski of Scheller was cited
Posts: 9967 with driving under the influence in Washington County Aug. 17
and also received a citation for failure to reduce speed.

He was suspended without pay Sept. 2 and a letter of


resignation was requested, according to a news release by
Mulch, who declined further comment Wednesday.

Nadolski did not submit a resignation letter and was scheduled


for a disciplinary investigative interview Monday.

Information from Washington County was used in that review


process, according to the release, and Nadolski was notified
that the Jefferson County Merit Commission would be informed
of the department's request for his continued suspension
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termination of employment.

The Merit Board will have 30 days to review the request and
information provided before a decision will be made.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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Mack Re: Deputy Randall Nadolski arrested for DUI, Sheriff seeks to fire him:
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“Nadolski was noticed that the Jefferson County Sheriff


would immediately notify the Jefferson County Merit
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GC Marciano Alexander County sheriff lays off 75% of deputies, squad car fleet
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Alexander County Sheriff's Department lays off 75


percent of workers
Sep 04, 2009 8:23 PM CDT
by Zakk Gammon

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=11079121

Registered: Jul 2003 CAIRO, IL (KFVS) - Alexander County Sheriff David Barkett
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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announced approximately 75 percent of his employees were laid
off at 4 o'clock Friday afternoon.

This comes after a vote by the County Board of Commissioners.

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In a release issued Friday, the sheriff says his department will


now focus on serving the court, providing security at the
courthouse and transporting and securing inmates.

The department refused to provide any further comment.

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Sheriff's squad cars repossessed by bank
BY CODELL RODRIGUEZ, The Southern Tuesday, September 22,
2009 3:40 pm

http://thesouthern.com/news/local/a...1cc4c002e0.html

ALEXANDER COUNTY -- A Cairo bank has repossessed the


Alexander County Sheriff's Department's fleet of squad cars.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
According to a news release issued Tuesday from Sheriff David
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Barkett, five patrol cars were repossessed by First National
Bank in Cairo after defaulting because of non-payment.

Alexander County Board Chairman Mike Caldwell received the


letter from the bank on Friday and after a conversation with the
bank, the five vehicles were turned over on Tuesday.

The department was recently forced to lay off 11 employees, 75


percent of their workforce, because of budget restraints within
the county. Their duties became limited to security in the
courthouse and inmate transportation.

Barkett was unavailable for comment Tuesday afternoon.

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Copwatcher Extraordinaire Wednesday, September 23, 2009
By Bridget DiCosmo ~ Southeast Missourian

http://www.semissourian.com/story/1572435.html

CAIRO, Ill. -- A row of white sedans were on the outskirts of the


parking lot at First National Bank in Cairo on Tuesday, the sides
scraped clean of the Alexander County Sheriff's Department
decals. Black letters still spelled out "sheriff" near the rear
Registered: Jul 2003 bumpers.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 The bank repossessed the vehicles Tuesday because the county
had defaulted on its payments for five of the department's
patrol cars, according to a news release from Alexander County
Sheriff David Barkett. The cars were turned over to the bank
after a discussion and agreement with bank officials, Barkett
said.

The bank's action comes in the wake of staff layoffs in the


sheriff's department and the courthouse at the start of the
month.

On Sept. 4, the board of commissioners mandated layoffs for 75


percent of the sheriff's department, Barkett said.

Sixteen county employees, both full and part time, received


layoff notices, the Cairo Citizen reported.

Barkett said the sheriff's department would be focusing its


diminished staff on serving the court, transporting inmates and
handling legal process service.

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The county budget currently has a $500,000 deficit, but county


officials said that could be up to $1 million by the end of the
2009 fiscal year, according to the Cairo Citizen.

"It's really bad, if you ask me," Delisa Williams, 21, of Cairo,
said Tuesday.

Williams said she'd heard other rumors about the county's


financial struggles, like outstanding phone bills that had not
been paid.

As a law enforcement officer and taxpayer in Alexander County,


Gary Hankins, a lieutenant with the Cairo Police Department,
said he understands the frustration of sheriff's department staff,
but he can foresee the financial issues becoming a problem for
county security.

"As a law enforcement officer, you want to do the very best you
can for the people you're supposed to be serving," Hankins said.

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First National Bank in Cairo, Ill., repossessed five vehicles from


Alexander County, including these
sheriff patrol cars, Tuesday because of nonpayment.

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GC Marciano For the record, Alexander County Sheriff David Barkett is the
Copwatcher Extraordinaire same pig that "accidentally" ran over and killed his 87 year old
Mother-In-Law back in February of this year:

http://www.kfvs.com/Global/story.as...ttype=printable

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Navigatr1 I suppose they will have to use bicycles now, but they would
Extended Sabatical probably get those repossessed too. lol. In the mean time they can
use the time honored PPC mode of transportation - Personal
Personnel Carriers commonly know as shoes. Hey maybe they can
apply for JAG monies so they can buy a fleet of PPC's. lmao. The
Registered: Jul 2003 PPC's are needed to help Alexander County Sheriff's Department
Location: fight crime by patroling the streets, and PPC's also come in a
Posts: 31403 stealth version call sneakers.

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Vigilance Alexander Co. IL sheriff Whines and Snivvles about economy &
Senior Member reposessed cruisers

This NEEDS to happen to law enforcement agencies across the


nation. They ARE a HUGE waste of money and they don't do the job
we put them in place for.

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More copscum domestic terrorist behavior. I hope this womans gets


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CHICAGO - An Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center nurse has


filed a civil lawsuit against a Chicago police officer and the city of
Chicago, claiming the officer arrested her for wanting to consult
with a supervisor before collecting a blood sample from a suspected
drunken driver.

Lisa Hofstra was the nurse in charge of the emergency room at


Illinois Masonic about 4 a.m. on Aug. 1 when she said an officer
named Rodriguez asked her to take blood samples from a man to
determine his blood-alcohol level, according to a lawsuit filed in
federal court. Hofstra allegedly told the officer the man had to
become a patient first and she wanted to consult with her
supervisor.

The officer cuffed her and placed her in the back of a squad car,
according to the lawsuit.

The lawsuit claims Rodriguez, who is not fully named in the


complaint, used excessive force by placing the handcuffs on Hofstra
too tightly and arrested her without probable cause.

Hofstra is seeking an unspecified amount of damages.

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Night Raven Chicago Kopskum Harasses & Handcuffs ER Nurse


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ER nurse sues cop for handcuffing her during dispute over


drawing suspect's blood

September 21, 2009

BY FRANK MAIN Crime Reporter

Registered: May 2008


Location:
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A still photo from a hospital video shows Lisa Hofstra, head
emergency room nurse at Advocate Illinois Masonic Hospital,
handcuffed by a Chicago Police officer at 4 a.m. on Aug. 1.

PHOTO GALLERY

Nurse handcuffed by cops

A head emergency room nurse at Advocate Illinois Masonic


Hospital has sued the city and a Chicago Police officer for
handcuffing her and putting her in the back of a squad car
during a dispute over drawing blood from a suspected

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drunken driver.

Lisa Hofstra said she was the “charge nurse” in the


emergency room on Aug. 1 when the officer approached her
at about 4 a.m. The officer requested she perform a blood
work-up on a DUI suspect, the lawsuit said.

Hofstra told the officer the suspect needed to be admitted to


the hospital before she could draw the person’s blood.
Hofstra said she told a police lieutenant that it was the
hospital’s protocol to wait until a suspect was admitted, and
the lieutenant agreed, she said.

The lieutenant left the emergency room.

Then Hofstra called her supervisors, but before they could


respond, the officer put her in handcuffs in front of her co-
workers and escorted her to a squad car, according to the
lawsuit.

“I in no way intended to block this police officer’s ability to


do his job,” she said in a news conference today. “He went
about it in the wrong way. ... I would like him to be
reprimanded.”

Hofstra said she filed her lawsuit in federal court last month
in an effort to have the officer punished for violating her
rights.

She was in the car for about 45 minutes before the situation
was resolved, Hofstra said. The cuffs were too tight,
requiring treatment in the hospital after she was released
from custody, she said.

A security video of the incident shows the officer smiling


outside the squad car as Hofstra sat inside.

“He feels comfortable about smiling when he just illegally


arrested someone,” said Hofstra’s attorney Blake Horwitz.
“He is enjoying his power.”

The Independent Police Review Authority is investigating the


incident. Hofstra said the authority’s investigators have been
interviewing witnesses to the incident.

No police report was filed, and no charges were filed,


Horwitz said. But he characterized his client as being
wrongly arrested.

The lawsuit, filed Aug. 25, gives only a last name for the
officer. Roderick Drew, a spokesman for the police
department, said he was prohibited from identifying the
officer under union rules.

Hofstra said she normally has a good relationship with police

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officers at the hospital, where she’s been an emergency


room nurse since November 2008.

Hofstra said it was a major problem for her to be removed


from the emergency room at a time when there were
numerous patients suffering from “bad trauma.”

She was responsible for triage — the process of deciding


which patients need the most urgent attention.

“If this officer is treating me the way he treated me, what is


he going to do to people on the street?” Hofstra said, adding
that she filed her lawsuit to “stand up for nurses.”

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/...092109.article#

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liberranter All I can say is, heaven help the porko who shows up at Ms.
Super Moderator Hofstra's emergency room requiring emergency surgery. Talk
about pissing in the well you'll one day probably have to drink
out of.

Stupid swinethugs...

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Navigatr1 DUI law pits police vs. hospital procedure


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DUI law pits police vs. hospital procedure


http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/...S-dui27.article

Registered: Jul 2003 September 26, 2009


Location: BY FRANK MAIN AND MONIFA THOMAS Staff Reporters
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State law says police officers can require suspected drunken drivers
to submit to a blood test if they're involved in a serious or fatal
accident.

But what, if any, obligation do hospitals have to carry out an


officer's request to draw a DUI suspect's blood?

That's one of the questions raised by the arrest of an emergency


room nurse at Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center during a
dispute with a police officer over drawing blood from a suspected
DUI driver.

Charge nurse Lisa Hofstra, who sued the City of Chicago and the
officer last month, said the officer, who was not fully named in the
suit, requested that she perform a blood work-up on a woman
suspected of driving under the influence.

Hofstra said the officer handcuffed her and made her sit in a squad
car for 45 minutes after she told him the hospital could not draw
blood until the driver was admitted as a patient.

A caller who identified himself as the officer told WLS-AM (890) last
week that he waited more than three hours before the hospital
would take blood from the driver to determine her blood-alcohol
level.

Chicago hospitals contacted by the Sun-Times said they typically


don't draw blood unless a person has been admitted for medical
treatment, even if asked to do so by a police officer.

Neither Advocate Illinois Masonic nor Hofstra's attorney would say


whether the suspected DUI driver required medical treatment.

Some hospitals, such as Stroger Hospital, won't draw blood for a

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non-medical reason without a court order.

But state law allows blood drawn from an injured DUI suspect
during emergency troom treatment to be used as evidence in court.

Dr. William Sullivan, past president of the Illinois College of


Emergency Physicians and director of emergency medicine at St.
Mary's Hospital in Streator, said hospitals want to help police but
are worried about being sued by suspects whose blood was taken
against their will or having to neglect emergency patients to tend to
police requests.

In an effort to expedite blood draws for DUI suspects, the Illinois


Association of Chiefs of Police is trying to work with paramedics and
firefighters to draft legislation requiring paramedics to draw blood
at the direction of police officers investigating alcohol-related
crashes resulting in death or great bodily harm, said Limey
Nargelenas, a lobbyist for the group.

The group said it recognizes that there may be resistance from


paramedics who worry they would have to go to court to regularly
testify in DUI cases.

"We're trying to work these issues out," Nargelenas said,.

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typically don't draw blood unless a person has been
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Since drawing blood is considered a medical procedure, the hospital


should have to admit the person as a patient before any blood can
be drawn. The police agency bringing the detainee in for a blood
draw should have to pay the costs for said blood draw, which is
typically an ER visit for a non-emergency. Most bigger jails have
medical staff which could do blood draws anyway.

quote:

In an effort to expedite blood draws for DUI suspects,


the Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police is trying to
work with paramedics and firefighters to draft
legislation requiring paramedics to draw blood at the
direction of police officers investigating alcohol-related
crashes resulting in death or great bodily harm, said
Limey Nargelenas, a lobbyist for the group.

The group said it recognizes that there may be


resistance from paramedics who worry they would have
to go to court to regularly testify in DUI cases.

The Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police wants to draw paramedics


and firefighters into the foray by drafting legislation requiring
paramedics to draw blood at the request of a police officer. In light
of the recent supreme court decisions where technicians handling
evidence can be questioned, the Illinois Association of Chiefs of
Police should not be asking this of the paramedics. Paramedics have
better things to be doing like saving lives, rather than drawing
blood for some police officer in order to obtain evidence.

The Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police would be better off


drafting legislation to require that each jail in Illinois be staffed with
phlebotomist's trained in evidentuary collection of blood. The
legislation would have to include the funding for these special staff
members too. They may have to increase the phlebotomist staff
due to them being questioned in court as witnesses. These
phlebotomist's would have to hold certificates from an accredited
school in the collection of blood for evidence. Police officers would
then transport their suspect to the jail so that a blood specimen can
be collected.

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Sheriff's Deputies accused of Taser rampage


BY ROBERT PATRICK
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
07/18/2009

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...E5?OpenDocument

An Illinois agency has sued two sheriff's deputies in Southern


Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Illinois, alleging that they handcuffed, threatened and Tasered
Posts: 9967 teenage foster children.

The suit, filed in federal court in East St. Louis by the Illinois
Office of State Guardian on behalf of the children, says the
deputies used excessive force and violated the children's rights.

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The suit also names Jefferson County, Ill., Sheriff Roger Mulch,
his department and the county.

According to the suit, Deputies David Bowers and Lonnie Lawler


were sent to the Southern Thirty Adolescent Center near Mount
Vernon on July 4, 2008, because of staff concerns about the
behavior of three other children, ages 11 and 12. The center is
an emergency shelter for children ages 11-18. Boys live there.
Girls stay in foster homes but go to the center for day activities.

The suit says that without any physical provocation,


Bowers used a Taser on one boy multiple times, including
at least once on his neck. Bowers pushed another boy
down on his bunk and threatened to sodomize him before
shocking him multiple times and causing him to urinate
and defecate, the suit says.

Lawler then handcuffed another boy before Bowers shocked him


multiple times with the Taser. A 17-year-old girl who was
pleading with the deputies to stop was then handcuffed
by Lawler, choked and threatened by Bowers and then
tossed into a closet, the suit says.

The suit accuses Mulch of either knowingly, or with deliberate


indifference, tolerating a "pattern and practice of unreasonable
use of force by (his) deputies."

Mulch, Bowers and Lawler did not respond to multiple phone


messages left in recent days seeking comment.

Gene Svebakken, president and CEO of Lutheran Child and


Family Services of Illinois, which runs the center, declined to
comment. "I'm prohibited from making any comment on the
situation. Although I'm certainly aware of it," he said.

Phil Fowler, one of the lawyers who filed the suit, referred a
reporter's question to the Department of Children and Family
Services.

A spokesman, Kendall Marlowe, said Friday: "Our job is to


protect children. Experience across the country has shown that
shocking children with Tasers can result in serious physical and
mental injury. Use of these weapons is especially troubling in
cases where the children involved have committed no crime and
have not even been charged with wrongdoing. We cannot
comment on this suit specifically; the complaints speak for
itself."

An Illinois State Police spokesman said police investigated the


allegations and turned over their results to the Jefferson County
state's attorney.

Jefferson County State's Attorney Jeff Bradley said Tuesday that


the State Police determined "that there was not any

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evidence of criminal activity." Bradley, who was elected last


year, said his predecessor decided not to prosecute.

The FBI did not begin an investigation after learning that the
State Police were looking into the case, an FBI spokesman said.

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GC Marciano A preliminary public record search reveals the following


Copwatcher Extraordinaire (unconfirmed) information:

Lonnie L. Lawler
15835 Angling Lane
Mount Vernon, IL 62864
(618) 242-3404
(618) 242-5121
(618) 242-4544
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
David Bowers
Posts: 9967 Age 44
2355 Denmark Lane
Belle Rive, IL 62810
(618) 736-2218

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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Night Raven Great Mystery?


Senior Member
quote:

The suit says that without any physical


provocation, Bowers used a Taser on one boy
multiple times, including at least once on his
neck. Bowers pushed another boy down on his
bunk and threatened to sodomize him before
Registered: May 2008 shocking him multiple times and causing him to
Location:
Posts: 4812
urinate and defecate, the suit says.

Lawler then handcuffed another boy before


Bowers shocked him multiple times with the
Taser. A 17-year-old girl who was pleading with
the deputies to stop was then handcuffed by
Lawler, choked and threatened by Bowers and
then tossed into a closet, the suit says.

The suit accuses Mulch of either knowingly, or


with deliberate indifference, tolerating a "pattern
and practice of unreasonable use of force by (his)
deputies."

The actions of Deputyskum Lawler and Bowers leave little doubt as


to why mature adults would consider these two asswipes as being
just two more cowardly deputies who take pleasure in victimizing
those who cannot protect themselves. In this case, they torture
these youngsters, knowing that there are no adults around who will
protect them, and that they can commit these sadistic acts with
virtual impunity. They are certainly not fit to be paid public servants.

And the great mystery among kopskum is why the public should
consider them assholes?

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peacefully. We are not just whores for power and oil, but killer
whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
--Dr. Hunter S. Thompson, Kingdom of Fear (2003)

"Society had a crime problem, so it hired cops. Next thing society


knew, it had a cop problem."
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Navigatr1 Federal lawsuit accuses southern Ill. deputy of using stun gun on 3 kids
Extended Sabatical

Federal lawsuit accuses southern Ill. deputy of using stun


gun on 3 kids at emergency shelter
http://blog.taragana.com/n/federal-...shelter-114954/
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Bureau News
Posts: 31403
July 20th, 2009

Ill. deputy accused of using stun gun on 3 kids

EAST ST. LOUIS, Ill. — A federal civil rights lawsuit alleges a


southern Illinois sheriff’s deputy used a stun gun on three children
at an emergency shelter while a fellow deputy mistreated a fourth
child.

The children’s guardian is suing the Jefferson County deputies, the


county and Sheriff Roger Mulch.

According to the lawsuit filed July 1, the deputies responded to the


shelter near Mount Vernon last summer to help control two 12-year-
olds and an 11-year-old. But the three children who were allegedly
shocked with the stun gun and another child who was forced into a
closet after trying to intervene weren’t the youths who prompted
the call.

No criminal charges have been filed. And Mulch says investigations,


including one by Illinois State Police, found that the deputies acted
appropriately.

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merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

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guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Bowers pushed another boy down on his bunk
and threatened to sodomize him before
shocking him multiple times and causing him
to urinate and defecate, the suit says.

Someone needs to add this pervert swine's name to a sex


offender registry.
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 __________________
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powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." -
Thomas Jefferson

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the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

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freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
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GC Marciano Official 'alarmed' by shelter's stun gun claims


Copwatcher Extraordinaire BY THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:07 AM CDT

http://www.copwatch.net/forums/newr...&threadid=36103

MOUNT VERNON — An executive affiliated with a southern


Illinois group home where a sheriff's deputy allegedly zapped
three children with a stun gun says he's "alarmed'' by the
allegations.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois A federal lawsuit filed on behalf of the three boys claims a
Posts: 9967 Jefferson County sheriff's deputy was unprovoked when he
shocked them a year ago at the Southern Thirty Adolescent
Center near Mount Vernon.

The lawsuit claims a fourth child was handcuffed, threatened


and thrown into a closet.

The petition names two deputies. Their boss, Sheriff Roger


Mulch, says he stands behind the deputies.

Gene Svebakken is president and chief executive of Lutheran


Child and Family Services of Illinois, which runs the center. He
says children in youth shelter settings often are already
traumatized and should be treated with dignity.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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Night Raven Typical Incompetence of Kopskum


Senior Member
quote:

MOUNT VERNON — An executive affiliated with a


southern Illinois group home where a sheriff's
deputy allegedly zapped three children with a
stun gun says he's "alarmed'' by the allegations.

Registered: May 2008 A federal lawsuit filed on behalf of the three boys
Location: claims a Jefferson County sheriff's deputy was
Posts: 4812
unprovoked when he shocked them a year ago at
the Southern Thirty Adolescent Center near Mount
Vernon.

The lawsuit claims a fourth child was handcuffed,


threatened and thrown into a closet.

The petition names two deputies. Their boss,


Sheriff Roger Mulch, says he stands behind the
deputies.

Gene Svebakken is president and chief executive


of Lutheran Child and Family Services of Illinois,
which runs the center. He says children in youth
shelter settings often are already traumatized
and should be treated with dignity.

This incident shows us that it is a bad idea to hire mental


incompetents like Lawler and Bowers, and then arm them and loose
them on the general public. It is not unlike electing the village idiot
as mayor. Doubtless, Sheriffskum Roger Mulch is every bit as stupid
as the deputies who work for him.

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a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live
peacefully. We are not just whores for power and oil, but killer
whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
--Dr. Hunter S. Thompson, Kingdom of Fear (2003)

"Society had a crime problem, so it hired cops. Next thing society


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07-22-2009 11:05 AM

GC Marciano Jefferson County Sheriff defends deputies' actions


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Posted: July 22, 2009 01:21 PM
By Julia Bruck

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=10766116

JEFFERSON COUNTY, IL (KFVS) - A southern Illinois sheriff


stands behind his deputies after a federal civil rights lawsuit
targets two Jefferson County deputies for allegedly tasering
three children at an adolescent home in Mount Vernon.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois The suit also names Jefferson County Sheriff Roger Mulch.
Posts: 9967 Heartland News spoke with Mulch about the allegations.

"We're defending our deputies in this instance, if anything is


uncovered that was above reproach then it will be addressed,"
Mulch said.

Mulch does not deny deputies used a taser at the Southern


Thirty Adolescent Center. He says deputies responded to a call
from the center's staff, claiming some of the resident children
were out of control.

"We handle several calls a week up to that center and most of it


is behavioral problems," Mulch said.

The federal civil suit alleges Deputy David Bowers and Deputy
Lonnie Lawler arrived just before 10:00 p.m. July 4, 2008.
According to court documents, deputies tased three young
boys. However, the lawsuit filed on behalf of the kids alleges
they were not the ones acting out of control. Court papers also
claim deputies hand cuffed, chocked and put a female resident
in a closet. She is also part of the lawsuit. Sheriff Mulch says it's
policy to document and investigate every time a deputy uses
their taser.

"We did not stop there. I had the Department of Children and
Family Services let them open up a case. Told them about the
allegations that the youth had made, as well how we responded
when we made the call up there," Mulch said.

Mulch says the Illinois State Police also investigated the


deputies' actions, but adds they found the deputies did nothing
wrong.

Lutheran Child and Family Services of Illinois runs the Southern


Thirty Adolescent Center. The president and CEO says he is
alarmed by the allegations.

"We did not have an awareness of the severity of the


allegations set forth in the court documents," Gene Svebakken

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said.

At the time, the children were in the custody of the state. The
Department of Family Services says its policy is that residential
programs report unusual incidents. DCFS would not say if it
conducted an investigation into the claims listed in the court
documents.

However, in a statement to Heartland News, spokesperson


Kendall Marlowe said, "Our job is to protect children. Experience
across the country has shown that shocking children with tasers
can result in serious physical and mental injury. Use of these
weapons is especially troubling in cases where the children
involved have committed no crime and have not even been
charged with wrongdoing."

Svebakken says an internal investigation at the center is


underway. Meanwhile DCFS tells Heartland News they met with
facility management and conducted a licensing investigation.

At this time, no criminal charges have been filed.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

All statements and opinions expressed are my personal opinions and are not
to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
authority to bind Copwatch or to act on its behalf. My opinions, ideas,
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GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by GC505
We're defending our deputies in this instance,
if anything is uncovered that was above
reproach then it will be addressed

Hmmm... threatening to assfuck a young boy while repeatedly


shocking him with a tazer until he pisses and shits himself is not
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
a criminal act and is "above reproach"?
Posts: 9967
I wonder if it will still be okay when somebody does that to his
kids or grandkids?

Looks to me like Jefferson County IL sheriff Roger D. Mulch


should be classified as a sexual predator and a valid threat to
children.

(See a televised media clip in which Roger Mulch says he will


defend the deputies even if the accusation are all true: YouTube)

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WARNING: The scumbag identified below has gone on record


as one who supports and defends adult men who threaten to
sodomize young children while torturing them with electronic
weapons:

NAME:
Roger D. Mulch
DOB:
12/25/1957
DLN:
M420-7245-7366
SSN:
[WITHHELD]
HOME ADDRESS:
16929 Miller Lake Ln.
Mount Vernon, IL 62864
TELEPHONE:
(618) 242-1877

Attachment: law_pic2.jpg
This has been downloaded 19 time(s).

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
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state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

All statements and opinions expressed are my personal opinions and are not
to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
authority to bind Copwatch or to act on its behalf. My opinions, ideas,
theories and beliefs are my own and are not necessarily supported,
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pyo1 quote:
Senior Member
Originally posted by GC505
Registered: May 2009 Hmmm... threatening to assfuck a young boy
Location: Oklahoma while repeatedly shocking him with a tazer until
Posts: 1565 he pisses and shits himself is not a criminal act
and is "above reproach"?

I wonder if it will still be okay when somebody


does that to his kids or grandkids?

Looks to me like Jefferson County IL sheriff Roger


D. Mulch should be classified as a sexual predator
and a valid threat to children.

(See a televised media clip in which Roger Mulch


says he will defend the deputies even if the
accusation are all true: YouTube)

__________________

WARNING: The scumbag identified below has


gone on record as one who supports and defends
adult men who threaten to sodomize young
children while torturing them with electronic
weapons:

NAME:
Roger D. Mulch
DOB:
12/25/1957
DLN:
M420-7245-7366
SSN:
[WITHHELD]
HOME ADDRESS:
16929 Miller Lake Ln.
Mount Vernon, IL 62864

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TELEPHONE:
(618) 242-1877

A southern Illinois sheriff stands behind his deputies - You must


have missed this part from this faggot! I wonder why he stands
BEHIND them?

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tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break
them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible
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07-22-2009 09:07 PM

GC Marciano Here are some quotes from the fedeal lawsuit. Keep in mind
Copwatcher Extraordinaire that sheriff Roger "douchebag" Mulch defends this type of
behavior by his deputies:

quote:

“Without any physical provocation and/or


physical gestures from R.E., Deputy David
Bowers physically pushed R.E. towards his
bunk and shocked him repeatedly with a
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
taser,” the lawsuit alleges. “R.E. was tased
Posts: 9967 multiple times to multiple locations on his
person, including, but not limited to, his neck.
Deputy Bowers shouted to B.B. to lie down in
his bunk and physically forced him to lie
down. Without physical provocation and/or
physical gestures from B.B., Deputy Bowers
held B.B. down on his bed and shocked him
repeatedly with a taser. While he was tasing B.
B., Deputy David Bowers threatened to
sodomize B.B. As a result of this repeated and
excessive tasing, B.B. urinated and defecated
himself. Deputy David Bowers was aware that
B.B. urinated himself after the tasing.

“Shortly thereafter, Deputy David Bowers and


Deputy Lonnie Lawler shouted at Z.P. to sit on
the couches in the common room. Z.P. sat on
the couches. Without any physical provocation
and/or threatening physical gestures from Z.
P., Deputy David Bowers ordered Deputy

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Lonnie Lawler to handcuff Z.P. While Deputy


Lonnie Lawler was placing the handcuffs on Z.
P., Deputy David Bowers began to shock him
repeatedly with the taser. Z.P.was tased
multiple times to multiple locations on his
person.

“As Z.P. was being repeatedly tased, Megan


Geisler pleaded with Deputy David Bowers and
Deputy Lonnie Lawler to stop. Deputy David
Bowers ordered Deputy Lonnie Lawler to
handcuff Megan Geisler. Once in handcuffs,
Deputy David Bowers approached Megan
Geisler with his taser withdrawn as if to use it
on her. Deputy David Bowers grabbed Megan
Geisler by her arms, lifted her off her feet, and
carried her through the male dormitory to a
nearby closet. On the way to the closet,
Deputy David Bowers lifted Megan Geisler off
the ground, pressed her against a wall and
choked her. While choking her, Deputy David
Bowers said, ‘do you want to live or die bitch’
to Megan Geisler. Megan Geisler was then
thrown into a closet. At this time she began
vomiting and heaving.”

I am working on obtaining a full copy of the lawsuit. When it


arrives I will post it here.

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GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by pyo1
A southern Illinois sheriff stands behind his
deputies - You must have missed this part
from this faggot! I wonder why he stands
BEHIND them?

Registered: Jul 2003


Location: Chicago, Illinois LOL... true. I missed that part. That fucking homo...
Posts: 9967

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pyo1 quote:
Senior Member
Originally posted by GC505
Registered: May 2009 LOL... true. I missed that part. That fucking
Location: Oklahoma homo...
Posts: 1565

quote:

Originally posted by GC505


Hmmm... threatening to assfuck a young boy
while repeatedly shocking him with a tazer until
he pisses and shits himself is not a criminal act
and is "above reproach"?

This behavior comes from the chief "down"!

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tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break
them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible
for everything I do.
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liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by GC505

JEFFERSON COUNTY, IL (KFVS) - A southern


Illinois sheriff stands behind his deputies after
a federal civil rights lawsuit targets two
Jefferson County deputies for allegedly
tasering three children at an adolescent home
in Mount Vernon.

The suit also names Jefferson County Sheriff


Registered: Jun 2005 Roger Mulch.
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865

"Mulch" - what an appropriate surname for this piece of shit. He


certainly comes across as someone who's made out of compost
material.

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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
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GC Marciano Williamson Co. deputy charged in DUI crash


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State Police Charge Off-Duty Deputy


Last updated 9:28 pm CT January 03, 2008

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_details.php?newsID=3805

DU QUOIN -- Illinois State Police have released the name of a


Williamson County sheriff's deputy suspected of driving drunk.
Registered: Jul 2003 Officials say 43-year-old Shaunn B. Curry crashed his vehicle
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
on December 26th. He now faces several charges, but not DUI.

Curry's charges include leaving the scene of an accident and


disobeying a traffic control device. Sheriff's officials say a

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witness to Curry's accident claimed they were following a drunk


driver, but state police say they don't have enough evidence to
charge him with DUI.

"...He had left the scene prior to our officer's arrival," says
Illinois State Police District 13 Captain Michael Irwin.

That's the obstacle officials say makes this investigation so


difficult. After the December 26th accident at the intersection of
Route 13 and Norman Road in Marion, Irwin says police aren't
charging Shawn Curry with D-U-I, even though... "The witness
says the vehicle was driving erratically-- went thru the stop sign
and crashed," says Irwin.

Curry faces charges of bypassing that stop sign and leaving the
scene. But Irwin says that statement from a witness isn't
enough to confirm the off-duty deputy was driving drunk.

"The accepted practice is to have video tape as well as field


sobriety of any person charged with DUI-- obviously we don't
have that," says Irwin.

Officials say the decision to charge Curry with DUI is now


in the hands of State's Attorney Chuck Garnati.

"We have forwarded our paperwork and our reports to the


Williamson County State's Attorney's office for consideration of
further charges," Irwin says. He adds that's exactly what would
happen-- no matter who was involved in the accident.

"The situation is being handled as we would handle any other


crash, regardless of who's involved," says Irwin, "and that's just
the way we do business. We've always done business that way."

Sheriff's officials say Curry has been on administrative leave


during the state police investigation. Over the course of his
nearly 18 years with the department, records from I-DOT
show he received a special honor for his aggressive
enforcement of DUI laws. At that point he'd logged 200
arrests since 2001.

By: Emily Eddington


eeddington@wsiltv.com

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GC Marciano Shaunn E. Curry


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Registered: Jul 2003
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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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GC Marciano Police officer who left crash scene identified


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Bethany Krajelis, The Southern
Friday, January 4, 2008 10:38 PM CST

http://www.southernillinoisan.com/a...al/22832131.txt

MARION - The off-duty Williamson County Sheriff's deputy, who


reportedly left the scene of a traffic crash last week, was
identified Friday as Shaunn Curry, according to Illinois State
Police.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois District 13 Commander Michael Irwin said state police finished
Posts: 9967 its investigation of the Dec. 26 incident and sent a report to the
Williamson County State's Attorney's Office. After interviewing a
witness and Curry, Irwin said Curry was cited with disobeying a
traffic control device and leaving the scene of an accident.

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Even though the motorist who called 911 at 11:55 p.m. Dec. 26
reported a possible intoxicated driver, Irwin said police didn't
have probable cause to charge Curry with driving under the
influence. Because Curry left the scene, no field sobriety or
breathalyzer tests were conducted.

"We are handling the situation just like any other traffic crash,"
Irwin said.

The state's attorney, however, could add or amend charges, he


added. The administrative assistant to the state's attorney said
as of Friday afternoon, he had not received any paperwork from
state police.

Friday's identification of Curry comes a little more than one


week after the crash occurred.

Sheriff Tom Cundiff said dispatch was in the process of


contacting state police after receiving the 911 call when the
motorist called back to report that the vehicle left the road at
the intersection of Illinois 13 and Norman Road in Marion.

Cundiff, who is also responsible for conducting an internal


investigation, said Curry left the scene of the accident while a
sheriff's deputy checked his vehicle for other occupants. He left
before state police arrived, Irwin said, adding that Curry and his
lawyer declined to answer further questioning about leaving the
scene.

Curry, who has been with the department for nearly 18 years
and is ranked as a sergeant, has been on adminstrative leave
since Dec. 28, Cundiff said. The sheriff said he could not give a
time frame as to when the internal investigation would be
complete, adding that "there are a lot of things to prepare for
that."

"Obviously, there are issues and we will deal with those,"


Cundiff said. "We're human, we make mistakes sometimes. I
think it's best if people admit their faults and address those
directly and then go on with life and learn from those."

bethany.krajelis@thesouthern.com

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of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme


Court

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Garnati ‘shocked’ state police did not file DUI charge against
cop
http://www.thesouthern.com/articles...8a956552277.txt
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: By JOHN D. HOMAN, THE SOUTHERN
Posts: 31403
Friday, January 11, 2008 2:01 PM CST

MARION — Williamson County State’s Attorney Charles Garnati said


Friday morning at a press conference he was “shocked” that county
deputy Shaunn Curry was not arrested and charged with DUI by the
state police after reading a report forwarded to him Jan. 7 by
District 13 Commander Michael Irwin.

Curry is alleged to have left the scene of a traffic crash at the


intersection of Illinois 13 and Norman Road in Marion last month.
The state police interviewed both Curry and a witness and followed
up by citing Curry for disobeying a traffic control device and leaving
the scene of an accident. The state police did not cite Curry for DUI,
nor was he asked to submit to breath or field sobriety tests.

“There was clear overwhelming evidence (based on the statement


from the witness) for probable cause,” Garnati said. “So I called
Commander Irwin and told him to go out and write officer Curry a
DUI ticket. I’m the one who had to make the decision.”

Garnati said his office will prosecute Curry “just like anyone else”
for DUI.

“There will be no special deals because he is a sheriff’s department


deputy. And Sheriff (Tom) Cundiff has supported me from the very
beginning.”

First-time DUI offenders typically receive court supervision for a


month if convicted in Williamson County. They are also subject to
fines and various court costs.

Moreover, offenders must submit to an alcohol evaluation. It is also


customary to have one’s driver’s license suspended for a period of

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time. But because Curry was not asked to take breath or field
sobriety tests, Garnati was told by an official with the Secretary of
State’s office that Curry, who was off duty at the time of the
accident, will not have his driver’s license suspended.

“That’s a bad policy and should be changed,” Garnati said. “To me,
running away from the scene of an accident should be the same as
a refusal to take a breathylizer test.”

Cundiff said Curry, a sergeant and 18-year veteran of the


department, has “been a good officer” and has “done so much more
than write traffic tickets,” even though it doesn’t excuse his actions.

He said Curry remains away from work on paid leave.

Not only does Curry face prosecution by the county, Cundiff said,
but he must also go through an administrative procedure or internal
investigation, which is sometimes less forgiving because of the
position he holds.

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Rylan 2.0 Re: Garnati ‘shocked’ state police did not file DUI charge against cop
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GC Marciano DUI CHARGES FINALLY FILED


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Charges Filed Against Williamson County Deputy
12:16 am CT January 12, 2008

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=3863&type=top

Sergeant Shaunn Curry now faces three charges for a


December accident. The latest, driving under the influence of
alcohol, which was just filed today in Williamson County. But
Registered: Jul 2003 before he stands before a judge, Curry may face punishment
Location: Chicago, Illinois from his own department.
Posts: 9967
The accident he was involved in occurred the night after
Christmas. This late night 9-11 call tells the story:

Williamson County 911: "What's your emergency?"

Witness: "Hi- yea, I am, ah, I believe behind a drunk


driver. Ok, where you at? Ah, east main street."

911: "Alright, I'll see, I'll let them know and see if we
can't get them located."

Then minutes later, a second call:

Witness: "Yes sir, I just called about the drunk driver and
he wrecked his truck- its flipped. We crossed 13, he did
not stop at the stop sign there, like on Norman Road, I
believe. And I can't get to the drivers side."

911: "So the vehicle's wrecked?"

Witness: "Yea, the vehicle flipped, its off the road."

Now, the driver of that car, off duty Williamson County Deputy,
Shaunn Curry, faces traffic penalties, a DUI and Williamson
County Sheriff Tom Cundiff says, perhaps even stiffer internal
disciplinary action.

"So he faces a double edged sword here. He has the traffic


charges he has to deal with and then he has an administrative
procedure that he will be facing, and he's aware of that."

Cundiff says Curry will of course maintain his civil rights, but as
a deputy, he also faces the Officer Bill of Rights. That means
he's upheld to the standards set for an officer of the law.

"We hurt because of this- but we also realize we have to


recover, we have, we have responsibilities and we have a job to
do and that's what we plan on doing."

Cundiff says there's another aspect about this case that makes

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it especially upsetting for him...

"He was probably the leading law enforcement officer in the


county on DUI enforcement. I have little doubt in that. And very
good at his job, he's very good at his job. So, um, that makes it
a little more sad for us."

Williamson County State's Attorney- Chuck Garnati- will be


holding a press conference tomorrow morning to address the
charges against Sergeant Curry. Curry's first court appearance
is set for February 6th.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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01-12-2008 08:07 AM

GC Marciano Williamson Deputy Accident Update


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Updated 12:16 am CT January 12, 2008

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_details.php?newsID=3872

WILLIAMSON COUNTY--A Williamson County Sheriff's Deputy


who crashed his truck late last month is now charged with
driving under the influence. He'd already been accused of
leaving the scene of an accident and running a stop sign.

Registered: Jul 2003 In a news conference today, State's Attorney Chuck Garnati
Location: Chicago, Illinois said the DUI charge should have been filed from the
Posts: 9967 start. Curry left the scene and ran a stopsign. After their
investigation, that's all state police say they could charge
Shaunn Curry with, following his December 26th accident. Once
Chuck Garnati saw their report on January 7th, he says there
was something missing.

Garnati says, "There was overwhelming evidence in that


statement by that witness to write a DUI ticket at that

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time." Garnati says he advised District 13 Captain


Michael Irwin to do so immediately. Last week, this was
Irwin's reason for not filing a DUI charge along with the others.

Captain Irwin says, "The Williamson County Court system at


this time, the accepted practice is to have video tape as well as
field sobriety of any person charged with DUI, obviously we
don't have that."

Garnati says, "Hundreds of tickets are written for DUI's in this


country everyday without a breathalizer or field sobriety test,
the state police do that everyday." He also says he'll prosecute
Curry just like anyone else charged with driving drunk.

Sheriff Tom Cundiff says he'll remain on administrative leave


throughout the department's internal investigation, all the while
taking into account Shaunn's mostly positive history with the
department and not just his active DUI enforcement.

Cundiff says, "He's also a good officer in other ways too. One
aspect doesn't make him good, but the overall does. If you're
asking me to say am I going to fire him or am I going to slap
him on the wrist. I can't say that."

Whether or not Sergeant Curry can salvage his career is still


unknown.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
authority to bind Copwatch or to act on its behalf. My opinions, ideas,
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GC Marciano Curry Goes to Court


Copwatcher Extraordinaire April 08, 2008

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=4572&type=top

Shaunn Curry, the Williamson County Deputy charged with DUI


and leaving the scene of an accident, appeared in court this
morning. There is some surprising information about his
driver’s license.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois Curry said nothing as he quickly left the Williamson County
Posts: 9967 Courthouse. He was arraigned today for DUI, disobeying a stop
sign and leaving the scene of an accident. His attorney says
he's not guilty.

Curry is accused of leaving the scene after flipping his truck and
running a stop sign. He was charged with DUI later, based on
witness accounts, including a 911 recording.

What's surprising is that Curry is a sergeant and has been with


the Sheriff's department for 18 years.

There are different courtrooms here in the Williamson County


Courthouse, and they all serve different purposes. Curry
appeared in traffic court and that's ironic because he's the
officer who would send DUI offenders to that same courtroom.

Curry still has his license. It was never taken away.

Most of the time, DUI offenders will lose their licenses


automatically when they fail or refuse a breathalyzer.

According to the Secretary of State's Office, his record shows he


was in a crash, but his license will only be revoked if he is
convicted.

Curry is on paid administrative leave, pending the outcome


of an investigation. We checked with the county's treasurer's
office and Curry makes more than $48,000 annually.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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GC Marciano Deputy Placed on Administrative Leave


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By: Arnold Wyrick

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=7580501

WILLIAMSON COUNTY, Ill. - The investigation into a Williamson


County Deputy who allegedly crashed his pickup truck and then
left the scene is now headed to the Williamson County State's
Attorney's office.

Registered: Jul 2003 On the evening of December 26th police say Sergeant Shaunn
Location: Chicago, Illinois Curry drove off the right side of Norman Road and rolled his
Posts: 9967 2001 Chevrolet Silverado into a creek bed. But, before the
Illinois State Police could arrive on the scene Curry disappeared.

"Between the time of the Williamson County Sheriff's Office


requesting our assistance and the arrival of our officers, we
found that Mr. Curry had left the scene of the crash. At that
time our officers took statements from the Williamson County
Deputies on scene and the witness," said Captain Michael Irwin
of the Illinois State Police.

"The 911 call was from a young man reporting an 'erratic driver'
and he was following the vehicle. During the interview with Mr.
Curry and his attorney it was stated that Mr. Curry did smell of
alcohol. However, at this time we don't have enough probable
cause to establish any further charges."

But, the State Police did charge Sgt. Curry with leaving the
scene of an accident and failure to obey a traffic control device.

Now the Williamson County Sheriff is conducting his own


investigation into his deputy's actions.

"His status with the department is that he's currently on


administrative leave and that will continue until everything is
decided, not only in the traffic courts, but then administratively
too," Sheriff Tom Cundiff said.

"Now he's not been charged with a driving under the influence
charge. However, there's the appearance of that, and I won't
deny it."

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Which is why Sheriff Cundiff says he called upon the Illinois


State Police to handle the crash scene investigation.

"You want that objective look, and we're not afraid to have that.
Anybody can come and take a look at that case. And it is what
it is, and we'll deal with that," Sheriff Cundiff said.

According to the Illinois Department of Transportation Web site


on DUI enforcement, Sergeant Shaunn Curry with the
Williamson County Sheriff's Office has written 200-DUI's since
2001.

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GC Marciano Sheriff's Deputy Charged with DUI


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By: Arnold Wyrick

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=7608287

WILLIAMSON COUNTY, Ill. - The Williamson County Deputy who


crashed his vehicle on the evening of December 26th faces
more charges in connection with the accident.

Sergeant Shaunn Curry already faced charges of leaving the


Registered: Jul 2003 scene of an accident and failure to obey a traffic device. Now,
Location: Chicago, Illinois the Williamson County State's Attorney's office has filed DUI
Posts: 9967 charges against Curry after reviewing all of the investigative
reports.

Some of those reports include two calls to the 911 dispatcher


just moments before the Curry ran his 2001 Chevrolet Silverado
off the right side of Norman Road.

The first call from the witness to the crash describes to the 911

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dispatcher the activity of the driver in front of him, the vehicle's


license plate number and direction of travel.

Then just moments later the same caller calls the 911
dispatcher again to inform them that the vehicle just flipped off
the side of the roadway, and that the driver failed to stop at the
stop sign on East Old Main Street before crossing four-lanes of
traffic on Illinois Route 13.

But, by the time Illinois State Police arrived on the scene


Sergeant Curry had disappeared.

"The officer is at a disadvantage compared to someone else.


You only get one shot at them, they can go in and satisfy the
court and it's over. The officer can go in and satisfy the court
and he'd still be subject to administrative disciplinary
proceedings. And that's the situation with this," said Williamson
County Sheriff Tom Cundiff.

Curry remains on administrative leave pending the outcome of


an internal investigation by the Williamson County Sheriff's
Department.

And the Sheriff says that Curry was one of his top officers when
it came to enforcing DUI laws.

"We want to take impaired drivers off the road. And I'll be
honest with you he was one of the best," Cundiff said. "He's one
of the best when it comes to removing impaired drivers."

According to the Illinois Department of Transportation's Web


site on DUI Enforcement, Sergeant Shaunn Curry with the
Williamson County Sheriff's Department has written more than
200 DUI's in the area since 2001.

Williamson County State's Attorney Charles Garnati has called a


news conference on Friday morning to discuss the DUI charge
filed against Curry.

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resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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GC Marciano Former deputy on trial for hit and run crash


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Heartland News

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=10159939

WILLIAMSON COUNTY, IL (KFVS) - A former Williamson County


deputy went on trial Thursday facing charges in connection with
a hit and run crash in December of 2007.

Shaunn Curry is charged with driving under the influence,


Registered: Jul 2003 disobeying a traffic device, and leaving the scene of an accident.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Police say Curry rolled his truck off the side of the road in
Williamson County the day after Christmas.

The man who saw the crash and made a 911 call took the stand
Thursday for the prosecution.

Due to scheduling, Curry's trial will continue later this month.

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Night Raven
Senior Member
quote:

Curry still has his license. It was never taken


away.

Most of the time, DUI offenders will lose their


licenses automatically when they fail or refuse a
Registered: May 2008 breathalyzer.
Location:
Posts: 4812 According to the Secretary of State's Office, his
record shows he was in a crash, but his license
will only be revoked if he is convicted.

The truly outrageous aspect of this is that Curry is being given


special treatment; whereas, as an armed-to-kill DUI enforcer, he
should be held doubly accountable for driving drunk himself. Being
that he is actually being allowed to continue to wheel around the
countryside, it might at some point occur to someone that the idea
of an offender failing/refusing a breath test ordinarily losing his
license might as well be a capital idea in the case of "Officer" Curry.

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peacefully. We are not just whores for power and oil, but killer
whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
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GC Marciano Curry trial begins with testimony from one witness


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Matt Hawkins
GateHouse News Service
Fri Apr 10, 2009, 02:48 PM CDT

http://www.mariondaily.com/news/x10...rom-one-witness

Marion, Ill. - Against the wishes of the defense, Williamson


County State's Attorney Charles Garnati will stay the prosecutor
against a Williamson County Sheriff's deputy charged with
Registered: Jul 2003 driving under the influence of alcohol and disregarding a traffic
Location: Chicago, Illinois control device.
Posts: 9967
Judge Ronald Eckiss heard testimony Thursday from one
witness in the case against Shaunn B. Curry, who was involved
in a single-vehicle accident that allegedly involved alcohol at the
intersection of Norman Rd. and Rt. 13 around midnight
December 26, 2007.

Curry's attorney, Robert Drew, argued Garnati should not


prosecute the case due to particular interest in the case and
Garnati's ordering the Illinois State Police to cite Curry for
driving under the influence of alcohol.

"All I was doing was using my discretion and there was probable
cause," Garnati said. "I called state police and had them write
the ticket."

Garnati's motion to dismiss a citation for leaving the scene of an


accident was granted.

Time constraints Thursday limited the trial to one witness, Kyle


Howerton, who is now an officer with the St. Louis, Mo. city
police department.

In his testimony, Howerton said he was driving toward Tower


Square on S. Market St. when a vehicle turned onto the street
in front of him. The vehicle swerved across the curb after
making the turn onto S. Market and continued to swerve across
the center and varied its speed between 15 and 30 mph.

Howerton followed the vehicle — in which he later found Curry


at the wheel — onto E. Main St. and alerted 911 of a possible
drunk driver. Howerton called 911 again a few minutes later
after the vehicle left the pathway and rolled into a ditch beside
Norman Rd.

He said the vehicle didn't halt at the Main St.-Route 13 stop


sign. It nearly was hit by a west-bound vehicle as it crossed
onto Norman Rd. The vehicle missed Norman Rd.'s sharp turn
at the intersection and tumbled into a ditch.

Howerton assisted Curry at the accident scene and noticed the


scent of alcoholic beverages in the vehicle, though no

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beverages were noticed that night in the vehicle. Howerton also


said Curry's speech was slurred.

"Based on my training (now) I would've made an arrest,"


Howerton said. "At that point I believed he was intoxicated."

The trial will resume within the next two weeks. No continuation
date was set Thursday.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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Night Raven Wear Your Waders To The Next Court Session!


Senior Member
quote:

In his testimony, Howerton said he was driving


toward Tower Square on S. Market St. when a
vehicle turned onto the street in front of him. The
vehicle swerved across the curb after making the
turn onto S. Market and continued to swerve
Registered: May 2008 across the center and varied its speed between
Location:
Posts: 4812
15 and 30 mph.

Howerton followed the vehicle — in which he later


found Curry at the wheel — onto E. Main St. and
alerted 911 of a possible drunk driver. Howerton
called 911 again a few minutes later after the
vehicle left the pathway and rolled into a ditch
beside Norman Rd.

He said the vehicle didn't halt at the Main St.-


Route 13 stop sign. It nearly was hit by a west-
bound vehicle as it crossed onto Norman Rd. The
vehicle missed Norman Rd.'s sharp turn at the

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intersection and tumbled into a ditch.

Howerton assisted Curry at the accident scene


and noticed the scent of alcoholic beverages in
the vehicle, though no beverages were noticed
that night in the vehicle. Howerton also said
Curry's speech was slurred.

"Based on my training (now) I would've made an


arrest," Howerton said. "At that point I believed
he was intoxicated."

It must just be me, but it seems to me that ordinarily Howerton


would have arrived at the scene and shot Curry dead as standard
operating copscum procedure. Curry's vehicle must have had the
Fat Blue Line Gang Union sticker on its window, so Howerton knew
that there was a fellow swine in the truck, and he had to refrain
from shooting him.

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a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live
peacefully. We are not just whores for power and oil, but killer
whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
--Dr. Hunter S. Thompson, Kingdom of Fear (2003)

"Society had a crime problem, so it hired cops. Next thing society


knew, it had a cop problem."
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GC Marciano Curry found guilty of DUI


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Matt Hawkins
Marion Daily Republican
Wed May 06, 2009, 12:33 PM CDT

http://www.mariondaily.com/courts/x...UI?popular=true

Marion, Ill. - Williamson County Circuit Judge Ron Eckiss found


Williamson County Sheriff's deputy Shaunn Curry guilty of
driving under the influence of alcohol and running a stop sign in
Registered: Jul 2003 a December 2007 accident near the intersection of Rt. 13 and
Location: Chicago, Illinois Norman Rd.
Posts: 9967
Curry's car rolled into the creek beside Norman Rd. before
midnight Dec. 26, 2007. He was charged with DUI, ignoring a
stop sign and leaving the scene of an accident. The latter
charge was dismissed.

Eckiss noted Curry's case would be handled like a private


figure's DUI case because the deputy wasn't on duty when the
accident occurred. However, that didn't alter the judge's
decision.

"I find your testimony incredible," Eckiss told Curry. "I


don't believe it."

Williamson County State's Attorney Charles Garnati called the


conviction a "sad day for law enforcement."

"A police officer was not only guilty of DUI, the saddest is what
the judge said," Garnati said. "Curry raised his hand under oath
and what he said was incredible. The judge didn't believe it. It's
sad that a police officer would take the stand and perjure
himself."

Curry's attorney, Robert Drew, was disappointed the arresting


officer in the case wasn't called to testify. The officer issued the
DUI ticket a few weeks after the incident.

"I've handled hundreds of DUI cases and never had a case


where the arresting officer wrote the ticket two weeks after the
incident and wasn't called as a witness," Drew said.

Curry testified that he blacked out while driving to his Pittsburg


home the night of the accident.

"I wasn't intoxicated," he said. "I didn't feel well. Apparently I


blacked out. I woke up and I was in the wreck."

Curry said he drank three beers earlier that night at the Marion
Elks Lodge, where he was voted into the club.

He attributed the ill feeling to not taking his daily doses of


prescription drugs for high blood pressure until later in the day.

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He said he would get lightheaded, suffer headaches and high


blood pressure within a few hours if he didn't take medication at
the proper time.

Sheriff's deputy John Fleming was the first officer on the scene
after the rollover. At the time of the accident, Curry was one of
the night shift supervisors.

Fleming responded to the accident after two 911 calls were


received from Kyle Howerton, who now is an officer with St.
Louis' city police department.

Fleming said Curry exhibited signs of intoxication at the


accident scene. The deputy noted the smell of an alcoholic
beverage. Curry also exhibited slurred speech and stumbled
about the scene.

Drew claimed his client's stumbling could be attributed to being


dazed following the accident's trauma.

Fleming invited Curry to sit in the police car, but Curry


eventually decided to leave.

"He said, 'I'm having a bad day. I want out of here. I'm
leaving,'" Fleming said. "I came back up to Norman Rd. and
didn't see Sgt. Curry."

Following the incident, sheriff Tom Cundiff met with Curry and
Drew. Cundiff said the meeting wasn't a formal disciplinary
hearing, but he advised Curry to tell the truth or dismissal
proceedings would begin.

Curry was demoted to patrolman status and served a


suspension as a result of the incident.

When testimony began April 9, Howerton said he followed


Curry's vehicle after it repeatedly swerved across the center of
S. Market St. Howerton made one 911 call after the vehicle
continued its erratic path on E. Main St.

Howerton said the vehicle didn't halt at the Main St.-Route 13


stop sign and it nearly collided with a westbound vehicle as it
crossed onto Norman Rd. The vehicle missed Norman Rd.'s
sharp turn at the intersection and tumbled into a ditch.

Howerton assisted Curry at the accident scene and noticed the


scent of alcoholic beverages in the vehicle, though no
beverages were noticed that night in the vehicle.

Curry's sentencing will be at 1:15 p.m. May 14.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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paulc87 Re: Wear Your Waders To The Next Court Session!


Junior Member
quote:
Registered: Mar 2009
Location:
Originally posted by Night Raven
Posts: 1

It must just be me, but it seems to me that ordinarily


Howerton would have arrived at the scene and shot
Curry dead as standard operating copscum procedure.
Curry's vehicle must have had the Fat Blue Line Gang
Union sticker on its window, so Howerton knew that
there was a fellow swine in the truck, and he had to
refrain from shooting him. [/B]

Nope, Howerton is a good person and a "good" cop (If there is such
a thing).

Anyway, I'm glad that this Curry peice of **** was convicted, but
what I read from the story he is not disqualified from being a police
officer again.

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GC Marciano Drunken Deputy Douchebag walks with probabtion:


Copwatcher Extraordinaire

Deputy gets two years supervised release for drunken


driving in Williamson County
BY TARA FASOL-CHAMBERS,
The Southern
Thursday, July 2, 2009 1:13 PM CDT

http://www.thesouthern.com/articles...29768860702.txt
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
MARION -- A Williamson County sheriff's deputy got two years
Posts: 9967 supervised release in court Thursday on a conviction of driving
under the influence.

Shaunn Curry crashed his vehicle at the intersection of Norman


Road and Illinois 13 on Dec. 26, 2007, prosecutors said. He was
off duty at the time of the incident.

A witness who followed curry as he “drove erratically” testified


to accounts that he blew past a stop sign at Illinois 13 and
crossed all four lanes of traffic, narrowly missing an
oncoming vehicle. No one was injured in the crash, which
occurred on the opposite side of the road.

In court Thursday, Williamson County State’s Attorney Chuck


Garnati said he wouldn’t recommend a sentencing for Curry but
pointed out a number of factors which he asked the judge to
consider.

Garnati said Curry’s conduct threatened his own life and the
lives of others, citing the testimony regarding his erratic driving,
calling Curry the “most dangerous driver on the road that night,
in Williamson County.”

Garnati also pointed out Curry is a law enforcement officer


and knew the law, including knowing not the leave the
scene, which he did. By doing so, Garnati said officers
were unable to conduct a breathalyzer test or issue any
warning that could have lead to suspension of driving
privileges.

Garnati said Curry “utilized his indirect authority” in speaking


with the officer who responded to the scene, following witness
calls to 911. Curry was the supervisor over that officer,
according to Garnati.

“I don’t think most people would have been capable of walking


away from the scene of a very bad accident,” he said.

Attorney Bob Drew said Curry has already sustained damage to


his reputation and humiliation, as well as getting demoted
within the sheriff’s department, impacting his pension and
retirement.

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Curry was sentenced to 2 years of supervision, a one year


extension of normal sentencing for first-time offenders. He was
also ordered to pay all fines in the case, including DUI fines,
assessments, and court supervision fees.

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"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
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Night Raven SNAFU


Senior Member
quote:

Attorney Bob Drew said Curry has already sustained


damage to his reputation and humiliation, as well as
getting demoted within the sheriff’s department,
impacting his pension and retirement.

Registered: May 2008 Curry was sentenced to 2 years of supervision, a one


Location: year extension of normal sentencing for first-time
Posts: 4812
offenders. He was also ordered to pay all fines in the
case, including DUI fines, assessments, and court
supervision fees.

More horse****. It's "Situation: Normal, All F#cked Up" as


usual. This asshat received preferential treatment that no
normal citizen would have enjoyed. This is a classic case in
point where the need for a "Times 2" law is needed in the
case of any kopskum like Deputy Douchebag here who
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Chicago Cop Allegedly Seen Beating Woman On Video
Location:
Posts: 2330 A Chicago Police officer is in criminal trouble and could soon be out
of a job, over accusations that he beat and kicked a female
bartender on the city's Northwest Side.

Officer Anthony Abbate is charged with aggravated battery in


connection with an attack at Jesse's Shortstop Inn.

The Chicago Sun-Times reported that surveillance video taken


inside the bar appears to show Abbate punching and kicking the
bartender while off duty.

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The bartender filed a police report but Abbate checked himself into
a medical facility so he was not arrested until last week, authorities
said.

The Police Department has moved to have Abbate fired.

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GC Marciano Off-Duty Cop Caught On Tape Beating Bartender


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Authorities: Anthony Abbate Punched And Kicked Female
Bartender

http://cbs2chicago.com/investigatio..._080060454.html

(CBS) CHICAGO A woman was injured during a frightening


attack and it was all caught on tape. The attacker was an off-
duty Chicago police officer who has now been charged. CBS 2
Registered: Jul 2003 Investigator Dave Savini reports.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Shocking surveillance video shows off-duty Chicago police
officer Anthony Abbate, 38, a 12-year veteran of the force,
brutally beating a female bartender.

He punches and kicks her.

"He was drunk in a bar. She refused to serve him anymore so


he went behind the bar and threw her around like a sack of
potatoes," said Attorney Terry Ekl who represents the alleged
victim.

The woman was working at Jessie's Shortstop Inn Tavern on the


city's northwest side where the alleged assault happened.

Video shot by the tavern in February shows Abbate's attack on


the woman, who is half his size, was so violent the bar itself
shakes.

Bystanders looked on, but no one stepped in. No one helped the
woman until she was back on her feet again.

"The Chicago Police Department made a unilateral decision that


they were going to charge him only with a misdemeanor
without telling the State's Attorney’s Office," said Ekl.

But prosecutors took over and filed felony aggravated battery


charges.

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"It's one of the most brutal and savage attacks that I have seen
caught on tape," said David Navarro, a prosecutor in the case.

Prosecutors are investigating adding possible obstruction of


justice and intimidating a witness charges.

"Another individual came in moments after the attack and


attempted to offer the victim money in order for her not to
prosecute the defendant," Navarro said.

The February attack, caught on the Tavern's surveillance


camera, was Abbatte's second assault of the evening, say
prosecutors.

"The defendant had attacked another customer earlier that


evening. He placed him in a headlock and punched that
individual repeatedly,” Navarro said.

Abbatte is no stranger to drunken behavior.

He was one of 100 Chicago police officers who had been


hired despite having prior drug or alcohol related driving
offenses.

Abbate had also been arrested for drag racing and driving on a
suspended license.

"Until you told me we did not know he had a prior DUI," Ekl said
to CBS 2's Dave Savini.

The night of the attack Chicago police were called, but when
they arrived Abbate was long gone.

If convicted, Abbate could get two to five years in prison. His


bond was set at $70,000. Abbate has been relieved of his duties
and Chicago police are moving to terminate him.

When Savini interviewed him 5 years ago, Abbate said he was


sorry for his prior drunk driving and would never do anything
like that again. He was also named in a civil rights suit back
then. That plaintiff is deceased.

Abbate's attorney would not comment in court Wednesday.

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Rylan 2.0 Another Officer Investigated For Covering Up Beating


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A grand jury is investigating whether a Chicago police officer was
Registered: Dec 2006 involved in trying to cover up another officer's alleged beating of a
Location:
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female bartender. The violent attack was caught by a security
camera.

Anthony Abbate was arrested Tuesday on an aggravated battery


charge. A videotape shows him beating a female bartender at
Jesse's Shortstop Inn on West Belmont last month. Abbate was off
duty at the time.

The Chicago Sun-Times is reporting that a grand jury is


weighing an obstruction-of-justice charge against a second
police officer suspected of helping to threaten and bribe the
woman to keep silent about the beating.

According to the victim, police officer Anthony Abbate, 38, came


after her when she refused to serve him more drinks at Jesse's
Shortstop Inn.

"I just refused serving him because he got too stupid and too
drunk," said Karolina, 24, who did not wish to use her last name.
Karolina has sent quit bartending.

Abbate is out on a $70,000 bond.

At 5'4" tall and 115 pounds, Karolina is half the size of police officer
Anthony Abbate, who is 6'1" tall and 250 pounds. Abbate allegedly
went behind the bar, threw Karolina to the ground and then
repeated punched and kicked her. A security camera caught the
attack on tape.

"On the tape, I see myself and him. In my head, I see just him
beating me," said Karolina.

Karolina says she had never met Abbate before and didn't know he
was an off-duty Chicago police officer. She says she had bruises on
her arms, ribcage and legs from the January 19th attack.

None of the onlookers in the tape stepped in to help. One patron


who was there that night says he tried to stop the attack.

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"I came and got closer to the guy, and I said, 'Would you please
stop hitting her?' " said Kevin Kelly.

"I just couldn't believe that this large man, who is a Chicago police
officer, who the Chicago Police Department gives gun and badge to
protect people, could engage in that type of conduct," said Terry
Ekl, Karolina's attorney.

Abbate, a 12-year veteran of the Chicago Police Department, has


been stripped of his police powers. The department is also moving
fire him.

"It was disgusting. It was despicable conduct. Nobody should have


that done to them and the fact that he is a police officer is even
more damning," said Supt. Phil Cline, Chicago Police Dept.

According to court records, Abbate did not have a clean record. He


was arrested for DUI in 1992 and named in a federal lawsuit for
beating a man under arrest in 1999. The man later died.

Abbate's father is a retired police officer and appeared at his bond


hearing Wednesday. After the evidence on the videotape, Abbate's
charges were upgraded from misdemeanor battery to a felony.

"It is one of the most brutal and savage attacks that I have seen
caught on tape," said David Navarro, assistant Cook Co. state's
attorney.

There is an investigation underway into whether someone tried to


buy off the victim in the now infamous bartender beating that was
caught on tape. The victim's lawyer says someone tried to bribe her
to keep quiet and that she and the bar owner were threatened if
they pursued the case.

Police say they are investigating the alleged bribe and whether
Abbate received any favorable treatment from police when he was
arrested.

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GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by Rylan 2.0
"I just refused serving him because he got too
stupid and too drunk," said Karolina, 24,

Correction: He was too stupid even before he started drinking.

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03-23-2007 01:58 PM

liberranter I'm guessing that the Chicago PD either doesn't do background


Super Moderator checks at all on applicants to the force, or else does them so
cursorily and sloppily that even Charles Manson would be seen
as fit for hire.

quote:

According to court records, Abbate did not


have a clean record. He was arrested for DUI
in 1992 and named in a federal lawsuit for
beating a man under arrest in 1999. The man
Registered: Jun 2005 later died.
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865

Okay, let's see now: Officer Abbate is said to be a twelve-year


veteran of the CPD, meaning that he would have joined the
force sometime around 1994 or 1995. That means that his DUI
arrest was already on his record when he applied to become a
cop, unless he was never convicted of the offense and had his

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record expunged (most definitely a possibility, although there


most certainly must have been a question on the application
asking if he had ever been arrested). The other incident
involving the beating of the arrestee would have happened
while he was a CPD officer, meaning that either the lawsuit was
dropped (witness intimidation and internal CPD coverup,
perhaps?) or Abbate was found not liable for the wrongful death.

Regardless of either outcome, Abbate's name should have sent


up red flags on a variety of levels. Obviously the CPD has a very
strong immune system. Surprise, surprise.

God help the citizens of the Windy City...

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Originally posted by liberranter
God help the citizens of the Windy City...

Welcome to my world.

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officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
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Navigatr1 Chicago cop accused in 3rd bar beating


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http://www.onelocalnews.com/akronfa...=11654&source=2

Registered: Jul 2003 04/04/2007 12:57:35


Location:
Posts: 31403 By MEGAN REICHGOTT, Associated Press Writer 10 minutes ago

CHICAGO - For the third time this year, surveillance videotape has
surfaced of an off-duty Chicago police officer involved in a bar fight,
authorities said.

Prosecutors were reviewing the new tape and hadn‘t yet decided
whether to file charges, said John Gorman, a spokesman for the
Cook County state‘s attorney‘s office.

Bond would not identify the officer involved or talk about details of
the video.

The only surveillance video to appear public so far showed Anthony


Abbate, a 12-year veteran of the force, punching, kicking and
throwing a bartender to the floor on Feb. 19 after she reportedly
refused to continue serving him drinks, authorities said. Police have
faced allegations that someone tried to bribe and then threatened
the bartender to keep her from pressing charges in the case. They
also have been criticized for waiting a month to arrest Abbate, who
initially was charged with a misdemeanor but was later charged
with felony aggravated battery.

Cline has said police were called to the bar about the fight but a
sergeant who was among the officers involved waved them off.

He had promised to change the way the department responded to


allegations of misconduct, including moving faster to get officers
accused of misconduct off the street.

Mayor Richard M. Daley has called the beating incidents


"unacceptable" and said the department moved too slowly to take
action. The Rev. Jesse Jackson , head of the Chicago-based
Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, urged that future allegations of police

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A Chicago police officer accused in the videotaped beating of a
Registered: Dec 2006 female bartender has been charged with trying to intimidate
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witnesses by threatening to plant drugs on bar employees and
arrest customers for drunken driving, prosecutors said Friday.

Prosecutors announced 14 more felony counts against Anthony


Abbate, a 12-year department veteran whose alleged videotaped
beating of a female bartender made international headlines.

The charges include seven counts of official misconduct, one count


of communicating with a witness, three counts of intimidation, and
three counts of conspiracy, according to the indictment filed
Thursday.

Abbate, 38, still faces an earlier felony charge of aggravated


battery.

He is scheduled to be arraigned on the new charges May 16.

The charges stem from an alleged beating Feb. 19 at a tavern on


the city’s northwest side after bartender Karolina Obrycka, 24,
refused to serve the off-duty officer any more drinks.

Video from a tavern surveillance camera shows a man who police


said is the 250-pound Abbate punching, beating and throwing the
115-pound woman to the ground. The videotape subsequently was
released to the media and shown countless times around the world.

Police announced in March that they were investigating allegations

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that someone might have tried to bribe or threaten the bartender


after the alleged beating.

The indictment alleges that a woman acting as


an intermediary for Abbate told a man –
identified by Obrycka’s attorney, Terry Ekl, as
the bar’s manager – that Abbate or other police
officers would plant illegal drugs on bar
employees or customers and arrest them if the
videotape was turned over to anyone who could
use it to make a case against Abbate.

The woman also allegedly said customers would


be arrested for drunken driving, the indictment
said.
Ekl said the woman was another bartender and a friend of Abbate.

Only Abbate has been charged in the investigation, Cook County


State’s Attorney’s office spokeswoman Tandra Simonton said.

Abbate appeared in court briefly Friday for a previously scheduled


status hearing, when prosecutors told the judge they had filed a
superseding indictment to the original assault charge. Abbate’s
attorney, Peter Hickey, said he was angry because he had found out
from the media that there were new charges, and told reporters
after the hearing that he didn’t know what the charges were.

A message left for Hickey at his office Friday was not returned.

Abbate has been placed on leave and police have said they intend
to fire him over the alleged beating, which embarrassed the city
and police department. Police faced intense criticism because
Abbate originally was charged with a misdemeanor, until the
videotape became public.

“This is a classic example of why the Chicago Police Department


shouldn’t be investigating itself,” Ekl said Friday. “They had this
information within 48 hours of the incident and did nothing about it.”

The department has explained that officers could not immediately


arrest Abbate because he checked himself into a substance abuse
treatment center. Department regulations prohibit officers from
learning the identity of people checked into such facilities.

Chicago Police Superintendent Phil Cline said Abbate had “tarnished


our image worse than anybody else in the history of the
department,” and said he would speed up the process of getting
officers accused of misconduct off the street.

Cline, who also had to fend charges that his

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department was out of control amid reports that


another videotape showed six officers beat up
four businessmen, announced earlier this month
that he was retiring.

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GC Marciano Woman-beating, criminal, coward, CPD scumbag:


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NAME:
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Chicago, IL 60634

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Rylan 2.0 Cop Caught On Tape Beating Bartender Pleads Not


Senior Member
Guilty
Registered: Dec 2006
Location: A Chicago police officer has pleaded not guilty to charges of
Posts: 2330 aggravated battery and other charges in the beating of a woman
bartender.

Anthony Abbate, a 12-year department veteran, entered his plea


on Wednesday before a Cook County Criminal Court judge. He is
charged with one count of aggravated battery, and later he was
charged also with seven counts of official misconduct, one count of
communicating with a witness, three counts of intimidation and
three counts of conspiracy.

As CBS 2's Kristyn Hartman reports, Abbate pleaded not guilty to all
15 counts.

Abbate is accused of beating up bartender Karolina Obrycka on Feb.


19 at Jesse's Shortstop Inn Tavern, at 5425 W. Belmont Ave.

The attack was caught on surveillance videotape and is cited by


many as the reason for the resignation of police Supt. Philip Cline.

Abbate allegedly beat Obrycka because she refused to serve him


another drink.

Abbate has been placed on leave and police have said they intend
to fire him over the alleged beating, which embarrassed the city
and police department. Police faced intense criticism because
Abbate originally was charged with a misdemeanor, until the
videotape became public.

At the hearing Wednesday, assistant state's attorneys declined to


comment. But Abbate's attorney, Peter Hickey, said he believed his
client would be exonerated at trial.

"He's pleading not guilty because he is not guilty, and that's what
we expect that at the conclusion of the trial, that's what the
outcome will be," Hickey said.

But Hickey admitted that he had not seen the videotape that shows
the bartender being beaten.

"I haven't seen the tape. I was just given a copy of the tape now,"
Hickey said. "I'll review the tape between now and the next court
date."

Terry Ekl, an attorney for Obrycka, claimed that after the beating,
two of Abbate's friends showed up at the bar and offered her
money for medical bills and lost wages if she agreed not to
prosecute Abbate. A portion of the surveillance video showing them
at the bar was released later.

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"He was going to plant drugs in those people's cars in the bar and
to harass patrons coming out and charge them with DUI if she went
forward with her accusations,” Ekl said last month.

The official misconduct, communicating with a witness, intimidation


and conspiracy charges came from these allegations.

Abbate is due back in court on June 18.

In a separate case, three other Chicago police officers are expected


in bond court Wednesday on charges stemming from an alleged
fight with four businessmen at another bar in December.

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September 17, 2007 (CHICAGO) - A Chicago police officer charged
in connection with the videotaped beating of a female bartender is
scheduled to return to court today.

Anthony Abbate is on a security video camera tape beating and


kicking a bartender at a Northwest Side bar back in February.

The 12-year police veteran was off duty at the time.

Abbate faces charges in the attack, including official misconduct and


intimidating witnesses.

Abbate has pleaded not guilty and remains free on bond.

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Navigatr1 Guilty Plea Expected In Bar Beating


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Posted: Tuesday, 11 March 2008 6:19AM

Guilty Plea Expected In Bar Beating


Registered: Jul 2003 http://www.wbbm780.com/Guilty-Plea-...Beating/1802599
Location:
Posts: 31403 CHICAGO (CBS 2) ― The off-duty Chicago Police officer allegedly
caught on tape last year beating a female bartender is expected to
plead guilty Tuesday morning.

As CBS 2's Joanie Lum reports, there have been a couple of closed-
door meetings between Cook County Criminal Court Judge John
Fleming and Peter Hickey, the attorney for the notorious Chicago
cop Anthony Abbate.

In a security videotape seen around the world, the 250-pound off-


duty officer is allegedly the one seen punching and kicking 115-
pound female bartender Karolina Obrycka at Jesse's Shortstop Inn,
5425 W. Belmont Ave.

The incident happened just over a year ago. Obrycka said she
stopped serving Abbate because he was drunk and combative.

Abbate was charged with aggravated battery. He was also charged


with official misconduct and trying to intimidate witnesses to the
beating after another tape emerged showing friends allegedly trying
to bribe the bartender to keep from pressing charges.

But the fallout went beyond the charges. Initially, police were
criticized for waiting a month to arrest Abbate and originally
charging him only with misdemeanor battery.
Published reports said it drudged up a stereotype the Chicago Police
Department has been trying to shake since officers were seen on
video beating protesters outside the 1968 Democratic National
Convention.

Ultimately, the scandal helped lead to the resignation of police


Supt. Philip Cline. When current Supt. Jody Weis took office, he said
taking action against rogue officers would be a major part of his
agenda.

Obrycka said she hopes Abbate receives prison time.

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"You know, you cannot be happy for somebody to go to jail, but I


think he deserves to sped some time in jail," Obrycka said. "I hope
I'm going to be the last victim of his terrible behavior."

"It's not only cops, I'm sorry, police officers, but any guys that's
hitting you, you're supposed to report it," Obrycka added.

Hickey asked the judge for a pre-sentence investigation, one of the


steps that leads to a plea agreement. Last month, a source close to
the case says Abbate, 38, will enter what's called a blind guilty
plea. That means he'll make it with no promises from the judge
about how light or how heavy his sentence might be.

Abbate is scheduled to appear in court at 9:30 a.m.

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liberranter "Heroic" Chicago Cop Repels Bar Assault -- Not!


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http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lew...ves/027048.html

Posted by William Grigg at June 2, 2009 12:57 PM

Two years ago, Chicago Police Officer Anthony Abbate -- a


gelatinous Kuiper Belt Object-sized "public servant" who, using
the same kind of legerdemain federal bookkeepers employ in
low-balling the budget deficit, lists his weight as 250 pounds --
was caught on video delivering a drunken beating to a 115-
Registered: Jun 2005 pound female bartender named Karolina Obrycka.
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 After the drunken Abbate -- a member of the Chicago PD's
corruption-saturated Special Operations Section -- was told that
he was cut off for the evening, he became foul-mounted and
abusive and threw a garbage can.

It was at that point that Obrycka, displaying more fortitude than


an entire platoon of Chicago's "Finest," got into Abbate's face
and tried to escort him from the bar before anyone got hurt or
any damage was done. (According to one account, she actually
intervened to prevent Abbate from beating up a male bar
patron.)

At one point, Abbate lost his footing, and then quickly lost what
remained of his self-control.

Infuriated, Abbate threw Miss Obrycka to the floor and


pummeled her mercilessly while several nominally male bar
patrons conspicuously declined to come to her aid.

Abbate is a bully, which means he's also a coward. At his trial,


Abbate permitted his attorney to frame the incident as a matter
of self-defense: Yes, this rugged, heroic street cop was simply
trying to fend off the aggressive behavior of a woman less than
half his size.

"Defenseless? I think not," exclaimed defense attorney Peter


Hickey. "She tossed him around like a rag doll. If not for a
garbage can that held him up against the bar, she would have
had him on the ground" -- where heaven only knows what
horrible fate would have befallen the hapless off-duty police
officer.

Of course, Abbate's unreliable balance was product of his


inebriated condition. Shortly after Abbate finally left the bar,
several of his CPD colleagues visited Karolina in an attempt to
bribe or intimidate her into silence; one of them reportedly
threatened to "discover" drugs in her car, or arrest customers
on bogus DUI charges.

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also a police officer and a notorious bar thug: He was involved


in a separate videotaped incident in which six off-duty Chicago
cops beat up four visiting businessmen.

A month ago, in a courtroom packed with Chicago police


officers, a judge acquitted three officers accused of aggravated
battery in that incident (Terry Abbate was not among them).
The verdict in that bench trial no doubt encouraged Abbate and
reinforced his audacity in pressing a claim of "self defense"
against the wispy -- but very brave -- young lady he beat to a
pulp.

It's no exaggeration to say that Chicago's municipal


government was probably less corrupt and better administered
when Al Capone ran the city.

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Night Raven Cop convicted in attack of female bartender


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www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/c...0,4511947.story

chicagotribune.com
Bartender beating: Cop convicted in attack of female bartender that
was caught on videotape
Judge rejects officer's claims of self-defense
By Matthew Walberg
Registered: May 2008
Location: Tribune reporter
Posts: 4812
June 3, 2009

A Chicago police officer faces up to 5 years in prison after a judge

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Tuesday convicted him of aggravated battery for the infamous


beating of a female bartender that was captured on videotape and
aired widely.

Cook County Circuit Judge John J. Fleming rejected Officer Anthony


Abbate's claims that he acted in self-defense while off duty in 2007
when he threw the bartender to the floor of a Northwest Side
tavern and repeatedly punched and kicked her.

In testifying Tuesday, Abbate, who stands 6 foot 1 and weighs


more than 250 pounds, contended he retaliated against the
bartender, Karolina Obrycka, after she threw him into a shelf,
causing him to hit his head. He had stepped behind the bar without
permission at Jesse's Short Stop Inn.

"She tried to stop him, and she used reasonable force," Fleming
said of Obrycka, who is 5 foot 3 and 125 pounds. "His own
momentum, with a little help from Karolina Obrycka, caused the
fall. But that did not justify his actions afterward, which were
directly out of proportion."

The case hung on the security videotape, which had sparked


outrage, contributed to the sudden retirement of Police Supt. Philip
Cline and prompted an overhaul of the agency that investigates
allegations of police misconduct.

The video, played repeatedly during the two-day bench trial, shows
the drunken officer go behind the bar after already having been told
to leave by Obrycka. As she pushed and pulled at him, Abbate
appeared to shrug her off. He then suddenly fell or was pulled off
balance, crashing back into the bar, his head bouncing hard off a
shelf support.

Abbate slammed Obrycka against the bar, then violently threw her
to the floor. He repeatedly kicked and punched her on the floor as
she struggled to evade the blows. He held her by one hand as he
took full swings at her head with his right fist.

Abbate testified he felt threatened when he fell into the wall.

"Did you feel in danger when she grabbed you from behind, body-
slammed you up against the wall and nearly took you to the floor?"
asked his lawyer, Peter Hickey.

"Yes," Abbate said.

"Were you going to stand there and let her hurt you some more?"
Hickey asked.

"No," Abbate replied.

Later on cross-examination, Abbate had to withstand a withering,


sarcasm-tinged series of questions from Assistant State's Atty.
LuAnn Snow.

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"So you felt you were in physical danger from Karolina Obrycka?"
Snow asked.

"Yes, when she threw me against the wall and I hit my head,"
Abbate huffed.

He admitted he felt in no danger, however, when he kicked and


punched her or when he tossed a garbage can as he left the bar.

Earlier Tuesday, after the state rested its case, the judge acquitted
Abbate of two counts of official misconduct. The judge cited
testimony by Obrycka that Abbate had never identified himself as a
police officer.

The acquittal on those charges could save the 12-year veteran's


pension. Abbate has been suspended without pay, and a police
spokesman said the department is seeking to fire him.

Abbate and attorneys from both sides declined to comment after


the verdict because of a gag order issued by the judge.

Tribune reporter Angela Rozas also contributed to this report.

mwalberg@tribune.com

Copyright © 2009, Chicago Tribune

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Chicago Officer Convicted of Battery on Bartender


http://www.officer.com/web/online/T...-on-Bartender/1$46956

Registered: Jul 2003 Posted: Wednesday, June 3, 2009


Location: Updated: June 3rd, 2009 09:27 AM GMT-05:00
Posts: 31403
By DON BABWIN
Associated Press Writer

CHICAGO --

A hulking Chicago police officer who claimed he pummeled a


female bartender half his size because he thought he was in
danger was found guilty Tuesday of aggravated battery.

Judge John Fleming rejected Anthony Abbate's claim that he


acted in self defense when he threw, punched and kicked
Karolina Obrycka as she tended bar in February 2007 in an
attack caught on a tavern security tape. The altercation
happened after she refused to serve him more drinks.

Abbate, 40, faces probation to up to five years in prison when he is


sentenced June 23. He remained free Tuesday after Fleming denied
a request to revoke bond.

The video footage of a drunken, 250-pound Abbate (ah-BAHT'-ee)


punching and kicking the 125-pound Obrycka (ob-RYE'-kah)
circulated widely as another example of misconduct by Chicago
police. During the controversy, then-Superintendent Phil Cline
suddenly announced his retirement, and Jody Weis was appointed
with an order to clean up the department's image.

Testifying Tuesday, Abbate acknowledged he was drunk, but said


the bartender pushed him first as she tried to remove him from
behind the bar.

Abbate said he "didn't want to receive another injury, I threw her to


the ground to get her off of me."

Two charges of official misconduct were dismissed by the judge,


who said there was no evidence Abbate abused his position as a
police officer, noting that Obrycka testified Abbate never identified
himself as an officer.

Abbate has been "suspended pending separation" and relieved of


his duties and pay, said Chicago police spokesman Roderick Drew.
Weis has said he wants Abbate fired.

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

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and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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liberranter Bully Cop Who Beat Up Woman Gets “Sentenced”


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http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lew...ves/028102.html

June 23, 2009

Posted by Karen De Coster on June 23, 2009 02:45 PM

An off-duty Chicago police officer convicted of pummeling a


female bartender half his size was sentenced Tuesday to two
years probation and anger management classes for the
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
videotaped attack that appeared worldwide on the Internet and
Posts: 5865 cable news channels.

His sentence? A home curfew and anger management classes.


The Judge actually said (hold on): “If I believed sentencing
Anthony Abbate to prison would stop people from getting drunk
and hitting people, I’d give him the maximum sentence.” Since
the same logic could apply to all crimes, can we apply that logic
to non-crime crimes like drunk driving and selling/using drugs?
Also note that the scumbag claimed “self-defense,” even
in light of the video play-by-play of the beating.

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it values more, it will lose that too.
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liberranter Cop Anthony Abbate Gets Probation, No Jail, For Beating Female
Super Moderator Bartender

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/...t_n_219651.html

Cop Anthony Abbate Gets Probation, No Jail, For Beating


Female Bartender

CHICAGO — An off-duty Chicago police officer convicted of


pummeling a female bartender half his size was sentenced
Tuesday to two years probation and anger management classes
Registered: Jun 2005
for the videotaped attack that appeared worldwide on the
Location: Tucson, AZ Internet and cable news channels.
Posts: 5865
Cook County Circuit Judge John Fleming also gave Anthony
Abbate a home curfew of 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. and ordered him to
perform 130 hours of community service.

"No one in recent memory ... has done more to tarnish the
reputation of the Chicago Police Department than Anthony
Abbate," Cook County Assistant State's Attorney LuAnn Snow
said Tuesday.

Prosecutors had asked for prison for Abbate _ he could have


been sentenced to up to five years behind bars _ but the judge
said he didn't see aggravating factors to justify a prison term.

"If I believed sentencing Anthony Abbate to prison would stop


people from getting drunk and hitting people, I'd give him the
maximum sentence," Fleming said.

Earlier this month, the judge rejected Abbate's claim he acted in


self-defense and convicted him of aggravated battery. A tavern
security video shows a drunken, 250-pound Abbate punching
and kicking the 125-pound Karolina Obrycka as she tended bar
in February 2007. The altercation happened after she refused to
serve him more drinks.

The video captured a lot of attention as another example of


misconduct by Chicago police. Then-Superintendent Phil Cline
suddenly announced his retirement shortly after the video
surfaced and former FBI official Jody Weis was appointed to the
spot with an order to clean up the department's image.

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Abbate acknowledged during the trial that he was drunk during


the incident. But he said Obrycka pushed him first as she tried
to remove him from behind the bar.

"He's not a bad man, he did something bad," said defense


attorney Peter Hickey.

Abbate has been relieved of his duties and pay, Chicago Police
Department spokesman Officer Robert Perez said.

The department is looking into "separation proceedings," Perez


said. Weis has said he wants Abbate fired.

ASSOCIATED PRESS

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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

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GC Marciano Re: Cop Anthony Abbate Gets Probation, No Jail, For Beating Female
Copwatcher Extraordinaire Bartender

quote:

Originally posted by liberranter


Prosecutors had asked for prison for Abbate _
he could have been sentenced to up to five
years behind bars _ but the judge said he
didn't see aggravating factors to justify a
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Well hell, it would be worth it to go beat the ever living shit out
of officer Abbate (without aggravating factors). It would
definitely be worth a couple years probation...

But of course we all know that Judge John Fleming gave


copscum Anthony Abbate special consideration, anyone else
would be looking at at least a couple years in the slammer.

Judge John Fleming, go fuck yourself. You're a bigger piece of


shit than Anthony Abbate.

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SSN:
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ADDRESS:
6426 Wayne Ave
Chicago, IL 60626
PHONE:
773-274-1648
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SPOUSE:
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James Fleming
Peter Fleming

Here is John Fleming's evaluation from the Chicago Council of


Lawyers , when he ran for circuit court judge in 1996:

Evaluation
3/96 Primary Election, Circuit Court:
Not Qualified
John J. Fleming, 40, has been practicing law for 14 years.
He is currently Director of
Administrative Adjudication, Administrative Hearings, for
the City of Chicago. He spent one year
as a solo practitioner and three years with the Chicago
Park District as Deputy General Attorney,
Litigation Supervisor. He was an Assistant Cook County
State’s Attorney for eight years. We have
received significant reports that Mr. Fleming lacks a

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responsible attitude and good judgment in


his work. The Council finds him Not Qualified.

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liberranter Re: Re: Cop Anthony Abbate Gets Probation, No Jail, For Beating
Super Moderator Female Bartender

quote:

Originally posted by GC505

We have received significant reports that Mr.


Fleming lacks a responsible attitude and good
judgment in his work. The Council finds him
Not Qualified.
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865

I guess that assessment is what makes him perfectly qualified


to be a Chicago judge. Apparently he had all the right
"connections" for the job.

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accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman


Grigg

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freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
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MGMAN I hope the next woman this cop beats up, is either the wife, sister
Senior Member or daughter of this moron judge.

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Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis, who officially takes office
Feb. 1, plans to take a "hard, close look" at taking further action
against Officer William J. Cozzi, police spokeswoman Monique
Bond told the Chicago Sun-Times for a story published Monday.

Bond called the incident "a concern" for Weis, an FBI veteran
chosen to succeed former Superintendent Phil Cline, who
announced his retirement last year amid allegations of excessive
force, barroom brawls involving off-duty officers and a scandal in a

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disbanded gang and drug unit.

Weis has vowed to crack down on misconduct.

Cozzi, 50, pleaded guilty last year to misdemeanor battery in the


2005 incident.

The surveillance video — presented at Cozzi's disciplinary hearing


before the Chicago Police Board last summer and obtained by the
Sun-Times through a Freedom of Information Act request — shows
Randle Miles, now 62, sitting in a wheelchair in the emergency
room lobby of a Chicago hospital.

Cozzi is seen shackling Miles' legs to the wheelchair, then striking


Miles about 10 times. Cook County prosecutors have said Cozzi
struck Miles with a small baton.

Miles was in the hospital for a stab wound to the shoulder.


Authorities say he was intoxicated, uncooperative with the
hospital's staff and verbally abusive to officers.

Miles' attorney, Timothy Whiting, called Miles "harmless" and said


he required stitches after being hit. Whiting's law firm has obtained
a $125,000 settlement from the city in the case.

Cozzi's attorney, William Fahy, said the officer is "extremely


remorseful of his conduct."

"The Police Board heard all the evidence and found him guilty of his
conduct," Fahy said. "They considered his many, many years as a
police officer. Based on the evidence, they made the right call. He
deserves a second chance."

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By Angela Rozas | Tribune reporter


6:46 PM CST, January 21, 2008

Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis said he will review the case against
a police officer who was caught on videotape beating a man

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handcuffed to a wheelchair.

Officer William Cozzi, who pleaded guilty to battery for the August
2005 beating, could rejoin the force in little more than two months
after he completes a two-year departmental suspension. The police
unit that investigates police shootings and other complaints of
excessive force sought Cozzi's dismissal.

In a statement issued Monday, Weis, who is scheduled to begin


work on Feb. 1, said he intends to determine if further action is
necessary.

"The actions by this police officer are disheartening and deplorable


and tarnish the integrity of those good officers who serve honorably
every day," Weis said in his statement. "I fully support the
department's initial decision to terminate the officer and intend to
thoroughly review the facts of the case before taking further action.
No police officer is above the law and any behavior found to violate
the public's trust is unacceptable."

Randle Miles was being treated for stab wounds at the Norwegian-
American Hospital when he resisted being placed in the wheelchair
according to reports.

Cozzi, who had been dispatched to the hospital to speak with Miles,
allegedly became enraged by his behavior, prosecutors said at the
time.

Cozzi placed the man in handcuffs and said, "Don't move, or I'll
break your [expletive] wrists," prosecutors said after Cozzi's arrest.
Cozzi hit the man 10 times with a small club in the face and torso,
prosecutors said.

Miles sued and eventually won a $125,000 settlement from the city.

The Office of Professional Standards, now called the Independent


Police Review Authority, investigated the excessive-force complaint
and recommended that Cozzi be fired, said Ilana Rosenzweig, its
chief. It also alerted the Cook County state's attorney's office,
which brought criminal charges, she said.

Cozzi pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor battery count and was


placed on 18 months' probation last May.

The Chicago Police Board rebuffed the recommendation that Cozzi


be fired and instead voted to suspend him for two years without
pay. He is scheduled to return to the force in April.

The Police Department, still hopeful of firing Cozzi, is appealing the


two-year suspension in Cook County Circuit Court, said Monique
Bond, spokeswoman for the department. Rosenzweig said Monday
her office supports the department's appeal.

The court can uphold the board's decision or recommend a more

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stringent punishment. Cozzi or the department could then appeal


the case to higher courts.

arozas@tribune.com

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Gee, I wonder why that might be.

"...allegations of excessive force, barroom brawls involving off-duty


officers and a scandal in a disbanded gang and drug unit.
Cozzi is seen shackling Miles' legs to the wheelchair, then striking
Miles about 10 times. Cook County prosecutors have said Cozzi
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"Cozzi's attorney, William Fahy, said the officer is 'extremely
remorseful of his conduct.'"

Only because he was busted for it.

"He is scheduled to return to the force in April."

That's f***ing genius. Put a guy who beats people while they're in a
wheelchair and handcuffed back in a position of authority with a
weapon.

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nothing."
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"Better that ten guilty men go free than one innocent man be
convicted."
Sir William Blackstone, paraphrasing Genesis
Speed, surprise and violence of action.

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liberranter The head pig "investigating" the conduct of one of his little
Super Moderator piglets? Sure, that'll bring closure and justice...

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Victim Wants Officer Punished
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CHICAGO -- It was caught on tape two years ago, and on


Wednesday, the man beaten by a police officer while handcuffed to
a wheelchair is speaking out.

"I was handcuffed and scared for my life," Randle Miles said.

Miles was beat up by Chicago police officer William Cozzi in that

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2005 video, and Miles said his memory of that incident never fades.

As NBC5's Alex Perez reported, the now-62-year-old victim said


what's being done to punish the accused officer is not enough.

The beating happened inside Norwegian American Hospital, where


Miles was sitting in a wheelchair, being treated for a stab wound to
his shoulder.

A nurse called police after miles reportedly became agitated.

The police department and an independent review board also saw


what happened and found officer Cozzi guilty of beating Miles and
filing a false police report.

But he was never terminated. Instead, the police board suspended


him for three years.

Although Miles was charged with resisting arrest, assault and


battery, the case was ultimately dismissed, and he walked away
with 18 months of probation.

He has since received a settlement from the Chicago Police


Department, but says that's still not enough.

Cozzi's attorney told the Sun Times his client is remorseful and
wants a second chance.

Previous Story:

* January 21, 2008: Aldermen: Reopen Case Of Cop Who Beat Man
In Wheelchair

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Wiese To Revisit Long-Bothersome Police Brutality Case
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CHICAGO -- Another case of a cop and a beating caught on tape is
posing the first real challenge for the department's new man in
charge.

On Monday, the Rev. Jesse Jackson called on Chicago's new police


Supt. Jody Wiese, to be more aggressive than his predecessors in
removing abusive officers.

"The burden is upon him to remove these officers from the police
force because they are a burden to the integrity of the process and
they are a threat to security," said Jackson.

On Monday, Wiese promised to take another look at a case that's


appalled many in the force for years.

The drama unfolded at Norwegian American hospital three years


ago when 62-year-old Randle Miles acted belligerently toward
hospital staff after being stabbed and put in a wheelchair.

Staff said he was intoxicated, and Miles was approached by Chicago


police officer William Cozzi, who first shackled Miles to Miles'
wheelchair and then began pummeling him with a blackjack,
according to the State's Attorney.

It's clear reason for Cozzi to be fired, said Ald. Toni Preckinkle, of
the 4th ward.

"I think there's some conduct that's inexcusable, and this surely
falls into that category," she said.

But Cozzi wasn't fired. Even though the Chicago Police Department
sought his separation from the force, the police board overruled
them, voting only to suspend Cozzi for two years.

Alderman Howard Brookins, who is running for state's attorney,


asked why the book wasn't thrown at the officer when prosecutors
had a chance.

"How is it that a person with a gun and a badge is not charged with
something more serious?" he asked.

"The actions by this police are officer are disheartening and


deplorable and tarnish the integrity of those good officers who
serve honorably every day," said Wiese. "I fully support the
department's initial decision to terminate the officer."

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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A Chicago Police officer has been indicted for allegedly beating a
man who was restrained in a wheelchair.

William Cozzi was charged in an indictment returned Wednesday by


a federal grand jury in Chicago with one count of violating the
victim’s civil right to be free from the use of unreasonable force by
a person acting under the color of law, according to a release from
the U.S. Attorney's office.

Cozzi, 50, of Chicago, joined the Chicago Police Department in 1992


and was assigned to the 25th District at the time of the alleged
incident, the release said. He was subsequently suspended from
duty.

The indictment alleges that on Aug. 2, 2005, while performing his


duties as a police officer, Cozzi used a dangerous weapon to
repeatedly strike the man -- identified only as “Victim A” -- who
was handcuffed and shackled in a wheelchair at Norwegian
American Hospital, resulting in bodily injury to the victim.

The incident was captured on a security camera videotape.

“Every citizen, regardless of being in police custody, has a


Constitutional right to be free from the use of unreasonable force by
law enforcement officers,” U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald said in

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the release.

Cozzi is not in federal custody and no bond has been set. He will be
arraigned April 9 at 10:30 a.m. before U.S. District Judge Jeffrey
Cole in federal court in Chicago. If convicted, he faces up to 10
years in prison and a $250,000 fine, according to the release.

The indictment does not identify the victim, but the Sun-Times has
identified him as Randle Miles. On the video, Miles does not appear
to be resisting, though he was charged with resisting arrest. He was
60 at the time and being treated for a stab wound.

The video shows Cozzi hitting Miles about 10 times. In 2007, Cozzi
pleaded guilty to misdemeanor battery and got 18 months’
probation.

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

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By MIKE ROBINSON
AP Legal Affairs Writer

CHICAGO --

A Chicago police officer caught on video beating a stabbing victim

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who was handcuffed and shackled to a wheelchair was sentenced


Thursday to more than three years in federal prison.

A federal judge imposed the 40-month sentence after


viewing hospital security footage of William Cozzi, 52,
handcuffing the man to the chair in an emergency room.
Cozzi then shackled the man's legs to the chair and struck
him with a sap, a weapon similar to a small blackjack club
with a heavy center and usually covered in leather. The
officer later accused the man of attacking him.

"We expect the police officers to serve and protect the public and
not to do the kinds of things you admit you did," U.S. District Judge
Blanche M. Manning said in sentencing the 15-year Chicago Police
veteran to half the time sought by prosecutors.

Rank and file officers have complained about Superintendent Jody


Weis referring the case to the FBI for investigation after Cozzi
already had pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor battery charge in
Cook County Circuit Court and served an 18-month probation term.

Some officers said Cozzi was treated unfairly by Weis, a


former FBI official brought in to head the Chicago
department after a series of scandals involving officer
misconduct.

"This is a message to all those officers in blue out there that


after 15 years on the job you'll get thrown under the bus,"
defense attorney Terence P. Gillespie said after the
sentencing.

Fraternal Order of Police President Mark Donahue has said he has


not seen an incident that damaged officer morale more than Cozzi's
case.

U.S. Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald said Cozzi did not make an error
resulting from a snap decision when he felt his life was on the line.

"If they're handcuffed and shackled, it can't be tolerated


that someone would beat them with a weapon like that and
make a false report about it," Fitzgerald said.

The July 2005 incident took place after a man was brought to
Norwegian American Hospital in Chicago with stab wounds
apparently inflicted by a female companion. Cozzi was sent to the
hospital to investigate.

Defense attorney Gillespie said the man was drunk.

"I let my frustration get the best of me, I lost my judgment,"


Cozzi told the judge.

Cozzi also admitted he falsely charged the man with attacking him
and two hospital workers. The charges were dropped.

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Manning acknowledged Cozzi had a good reputation with no prior


complaints of excessive force.

"It's just unfortunate that you lost it because you kind of


messed up your life for a while," she said.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Scott Drury, however, noted a sap is


not authorized police gear.

"If officer Cozzi is such a good officer, why does he have a


sap?" he said.

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liberranter This piece of pigshit got off easy. If it had been a citizen that
Super Moderator had committed this crime, he would have been looking at a
minimum of fifteen to twenty years.

If there's any justice in this universe, Cozzi will meet the wrong
end of a shiv in prison.

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kingkonghung at least finally there is a prosecuting atty who did the right thing
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This piece of ******* got off easy. If it had been a


citizen that had committed this crime, he would have
been looking at a minimum of fifteen to twenty years.

If there's any justice in this universe, Cozzi will meet


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Spot on, liberranter! The only thing that I can add is that
Cozzi is a lying piece of *******. Any cowardly piece of
swinescat like this asswipe deserves to be the ref in a yard
shiv fight.

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The independent police review authority recommended he should
be fired.

The Chicago Sun-Times provided video that allegedly shows Officer


William Cozzi striking the man, who was in the hospital with a stab
wound. The Sun-Times reported that Cozzi has pleaded guilty
to other charges of beating people. The video was used as
evidence in his disciplinary hearing.

The Chicago Police board says misconduct occurred but that Cozzi
should merely be suspended.

The Chicago Police Department and the independent review


authority plan to appeal that decision.

Incoming police superintendent Jody Weis says he supports the


decision to terminate the officer and that no officer is above the law.

With three hospital security guards watching, Cozzi


handcuffs and shackles a wheelchair-bound patient and then
beats the man using some sort of small baton. The incident
took place two years ago in the lobby of Norwegian
American Hospital in Humboldt Park. The victim was 60-year-
old Randle Miles.

The beating was not prosecuted as a felony. Cook County


state's attorney candidate Howard Brookins said he believes it
should have been. Brockins is blaming two opponents Bob Milan
and Anita Alvarez. Both are top Cook County prosecutors.

"There is no explanation for it. It has continued to be swept under


the rug," said Brookins.

Last year, Cozzi pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge.


First assistant state's attorney Milan said it was fair based on
Cozzi's clean record and that Miles was not injured.

"He had no charges at him at all, no disciplinary record


whatsoever," Milan said.

But Alvarez said she pushed for the case as a felony.

"That is a blatant lie. She was involved in the decision-making


process," said Milan.

As for Randle Miles, his civil attorney said his client was only
concerned about getting a fair settlement from the city.

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"I don't think Randle had any opinion whatsoever of what happened
with this officer," said the attorney.

Miles received a $125,000 settlement from the city. Officer


Cozzi was sentenced to 18 months probation. As far as his
job, he was suspended. He is expected to return in April. But
the police department wants him fired.

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conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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Navigatr1 The security guards standing around and watching the beating
Extended Sabatical should have been charged as accessories to the crime.

quote:

Registered: Jul 2003


Location: Last year, Cozzi pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor
Posts: 31403 charge. First assistant state's attorney Milan said it was
fair based on Cozzi's clean record and that Miles was
not injured.

Interesting how Bob Milan thinks a misdemeanor charge is


approppriate due to Cozzi's clean record and the victim wasn't
injured. The victim was injured mentally by the officer's assault.
Would Milan let a normal citizen plead to a misdemeanor if they
have a clean record and the victim isn't injured? I don't think so.
The person would have been charged with a felony since a sap was
used. Good thing the case was reopened and tried on the Federal
level.

quote:

Some officers said Cozzi was treated unfairly by Weis, a


former FBI official brought in to head the Chicago
department after a series of scandals involving officer
misconduct.

"This is a message to all those officers in blue out there


that after 15 years on the job you'll get thrown under
the bus," defense attorney Terence P. Gillespie said
after the sentencing.

Shows you how corrupt the Chicago police are if they are willing to
look the other way, and protect their own when one of them
commits a crime. They think that they should get special treatment
just because they are a Sworn Officer of the Law. Especially if they
have been on the force for a long time. They think that their
longevity on the force should garner them special treatment by
prosecutors and the courts, which should result in a reduction of
charges or sentence. Let a normal citizen with a clean record do the
same thing, and they will want to throw the book at that person.

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Former cop gets 3 years in attack


http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?se...ocal&id=6860930

Registered: Jul 2003 Friday, June 12, 2009 | 6:36 AM


Location:
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sentenced for beating a man who was handcuffed and shackled to a
wheelchair inside a hospital.

The attack was captured on surveillance tape.

Officer William Cozzi was on-duty when the beating occurred.

On Thursday, Cozzi was sentenced to more than three years


in prison.

The officer had earlier pleaded guilty to a state misdemeanor


charge and sentenced to 18 months probation. But in a move
that angered many other officers, Police Superintendent
Jody Weis referred the case to the federal government.

And Cozzi's lawyer says that wasn't right.

"The prosecution brought by Supt. Weis was misguided and


vindictive," said Terry Gillespie, Cozzi attorney.

Officer William Cozzi had an unblemished record during his


15 years on the force. Until August, 2005, when his lawyers
say he simply snapped.

It happened at Norwegian American Hospital. Randall Miles, 60, was

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there to be treated for a stab wound. He was drunk and belligerent


so the hospital called police.

Even though Miles was shackled to a wheelchair, prosecutors


say a surveillance video shows Cozzi hit him about 10 times
with a police club called a sap.

Cozzi pled guilty in state court, was sentenced to probation


and was suspended from the force for two years.

As he was about to return to work, Superintendent Jody Weis


referred the case to federal prosecutors who charged Cozzi with
violating Miles' civil rights.

Cozzi pled guilty. He admitted his mistake and apologized.


But Judge Blanche Manning called his actions deeply
troubling and sentenced him to three years and four months
in jail. And Cozzi loses his pension.

Other cases involving police officers - worse facts, worse records -


are routinely brought down to misdemeanors and pensions are
saved. What makes this case so different other than the videotape.

But Cozzi damaged his position further by falsifying the


records of the case.

"Police officers and the public need to understand that when people
cross the line and assault someone and then lie about it, that has to
be addressed, too. It may not be popular, but we have to do that,"
said Pat Fitzgerald, U.S. Attorney.

The Fraternal Order of Police says the case has seriously


damaged relations between Weis and the rank and file.

"I think the greater part of it is a misunderstanding by the


superintendent as to what real justice is here," said Mark Donohue,
Fraternal Order of Police.

"I got a message for all those fine officers in blue. After 15 years
don't snap or you'll be thrown under a bus, a federal bus, by your
own superintendent," said Gillespie.

Cozzi's lawyers say they'll appeal, based at least partly on the


severity of the sentence.

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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
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Officer William Cozzi had an unblemished record during


his 15 years on the force. Until August, 2005, when his
lawyers say he simply snapped.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location:
Posts: 31403

Talk about minimizing a crime. Cozzi's lawyers are trying to


minimize the crime by stating that he simply snapped. I hope the
Feds require Cozzi take a victim's awareness class so that he can
see the damage he did to his victim. Whether he simply snapped is
irrelevant. Cozzi assaulted a person handcuffed to a wheelchair with
a deadly weapon, eg a sap.

quote:

The Fraternal Order of Police says the case has


seriously damaged relations between Weis and the rank
and file.

"I think the greater part of it is a misunderstanding by


the superintendent as to what real justice is here," said
Mark Donohue, Fraternal Order of Police.

"I got a message for all those fine officers in blue. After
15 years don't snap or you'll be thrown under a bus, a
federal bus, by your own superintendent," said Gillespie.

Sounds like the Fraternal Order of Police is corrupt if they think that
they should be treated different than anyone else. The main reason
they think they should be treated different is so that they can keep
their pensions. If the case is prosecuted as a felony, they lose their
pension. They feel that they shouldn't have to lose their pension
after all those years of service they put in when they are convicted
of a crime.

quote:

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Other cases involving police officers - worse facts,


worse records - are routinely brought down to
misdemeanors and pensions are saved.

The above quote is the crux of the matter. If they can plead their
case down to a misdemeanor like Cozzi did in state court, they can
keep their pension. The Fraternal Order of Police think that keeping
one's pension is real justice.

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Illinois Police Chief beat up by toddlers


June 10 2009
Staff Reporter

http://www.officer.com/244...umor%635/app.htm

WEST CITY, IL - West City police chief Steven Mumbower says


Registered: Jul 2003 he will require several weeks off duty while allowing a finger to
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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recover after being slightly injured while heroically intervening
in an altercation between two young children, ages 4 and 10.

Chief Mumbower was at the Buckner Motel for undisclosed

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reasons when he attempted to break up an argument between


the two small, unarmed children. During the ensuing struggle,
chief Mumbower's finger was slightly injured. He was treated
and released from Franklin Community Hospital in Benton.

Sources say he suffered a mild sprain to a finger on his right


hand.

Messages left at a Steve Mumbower's residence were not


immediately returned, no word on whether the children were
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GC Marciano West City police chief injured at scene


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Mona Sandefur
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Mon Jun 08, 2009, 12:40 PM CDT

Benton, Ill. - West City Police Chief Steve Mumbower is


recuperating from injuries he received on Friday.

According to police reports, Mumbower was dispatched to the


Buckner Motel after receiving a call from the Franklin County
Registered: Jul 2003 Sheriff’s Department at 10:45 a.m. Friday.
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Posts: 9967 When Mumbower arrived at the scene, he learned that a 10-
year-old boy was hitting a 4-year-old boy, and the families
involved were trying to protect their children.

Mumbower got into a scuffle with one of the family members


and injured his hand. He may be off duty for several weeks.

Assistant Police Chief Claude Filkins is acting as police chief


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Christopher and Benton police officers assisted during the


incident. No arrests were made.

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DOB:
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[WITHHELD]
ADDRESS:
1130 Webster Street
Registered: Jul 2003
West City, IL 62812
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Originally posted by GC505

Mumbower was at the Buckner Motel for


undisclosed reasons...

Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 Probably for an assignation with his underage boyfriend - while
on duty, of course.

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Carbondale Police Officer Accused In Bank Robbery

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CARBONDALE - Two men are in custody accused of a bank


robbery in Carbondale. One of the men is a Carbondale Police
officer.
Registered: Jul 2003 26-year old James Gaddis of Murphysboro is accused of
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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The second suspect, 35-year old Anthony Fike of Murphysboro,


was also taken into custody. Authorities say the two men were
neighbors.

The robbery happened about 9:50 AM on October 9th. Police


say the men walked into the First Southern Bank on
Carbondale's west side wearing motorcycle helmets and
demanded cash.

One man held the employee at gunpoint while the second man
took money from the bank's cash drawers. They then fled on a
green and black sports-style motorcycle taking with them over
22-thousand dollars in cash. Police say part of the money has
been recovered.

The men are being held at the Jackson County jail, police say
Gaddis is in a jail cell by himself-- to avoid repercussions for his
position as an officer. Bond for Fike has been set at 50-
thousand dollars, Gaddis' is set at one million. Jackson County
State's Attorney, Michael Wepsiec says the men face between 6
to 30 years in prison.

For now authorities are not saying how they connected the men
to the crime.

Their preliminary hearing is scheduled for January 30th.

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GC Marciano Anthony Fike learned a lesson the hard way.


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swine? They will drag you right down to their level.

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Night Raven Too bad


Senior Member

Too bad that Copscum Gaddis gets preferential treatment down at


the slammer:

quote:

The men are being held at the Jackson County jail,


Registered: May 2008 police say Gaddis is in a jail cell by himself-- to avoid
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repercussions for his position as an officer.

I'm sure that affording this sort of isolation and protection would
not be done for normal citizens. Copscum Gaddis should have to
take his chances just like everybody else.

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"We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the whole world --
a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live
peacefully. We are not just whores for power and oil, but killer
whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
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quote:

Originally posted by Night Raven

I'm sure that affording this sort of isolation


and protection would not be done for normal
citizens.

Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 No, it sure wouldn't, which is why copscum continue to commit
crimes with impunity. After all, when you know that you're
going to be put in isolation "on the inside" and never have to
face the justifiable wrath of the people whom you fucked over
on the outside, you have no incentive to behave like a civilized
human being.

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GC Marciano Cop's gun, radio used in heist


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Blackwell, The Southern
Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:46 PM CST

http://www.thesouthern.com/articles...ge/27965106.txt

MURPHYSBORO - The two men accused of robbing the First


Southern Bank last November used a police radio and a gun
issued by the Carbondale Police Department to help them pull
Registered: Jul 2003 off the heist, prosecutors alleged Friday.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Those details were among the many revealed through the
testimony of investigators at the preliminary hearing for
suspended Carbondale Police Officer James D. Gaddis and his
Murphysboro neighbor, Anthony Mitchell Fike.

Investigators also testified both Gaddis and Fike admitted to


involvement in the robbery.

Fike, 35, and Gaddis, 26, are charged with armed robbery,
which State's Attorney Mike Wepsiec alleged was motivated by
money troubles for both men.

With friends and family gathered in the courtroom, Fike pleaded


not guilty Friday while Gaddis' attorney, Bryan Drew, did not
enter a plea.

Fike, who is free on $50,000 bond, arrived wearing a sport coat


and khakis, a stark contrast to Gaddis' prison-issue orange
winter coat and shackled ankles. Gaddis is being held on $1
million bond, and Judge E. Dan Kimmel denied a motion by
Drew to lower it.

Until Friday's hearing, authorities had released few details about


the October robbery. They said two men wearing full-face
helmets pulled up to the First Southern Bank on Old
Murphysboro Road on a motorcycle.

Surveillance cameras photographed one man holding three


tellers at gunpoint and the other man emptying cash drawers
before the two sped away with $22,800 cash.

Among the new details revealed Friday, police officers testified


that:

• Planning for the robbery began in the summer.

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• Gaddis placed a bogus 911 call that diverted most of


Carbondale's available police officers away from the bank just
minutes before the robbery.

• While reviewing bank surveillance footage, investigators


recognized Gaddis' face through the open visor of the
motorcycle helmet.

• Fike alleged that Gaddis suggested burglarizing homes posted


on a watch list of citizens who ask for extra police patrols when
they expect to be out of town. Fike further alleged Gaddis
singled out since-retired Police Chief Bob Ledbetter's home as a
probable target.

• Seeing two men on a motorcycle, one of them stuffing a gun


in a duffle bag, an Illinois Department of Natural Resources
officer attempted to block the suspects' getaway and followed
the motorcycle before being outrun.

• Fike was stopped twice on his motorcycle by police officers in


the hour after the robbery.

• Despite covering the gas tank and license plate on the


motorcycle, witnesses described the bike with enough detail for
police to trace it to Fike.

Carbondale police Lt. Paul Echols and Illinois State Police


Detective Michael Ryan provided the testimony.

Ryan also testified Gaddis, under questioning, told him that


both before and after the robbery, he feared for his life and the
safety of his family because of alleged drug debts owed by Fike.

Gaddis and Fike are scheduled to appear in court March 11 for


conferences to determine if they are prepared for trial.

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GC Marciano Former Carbondale Officer To Be Tried Seperately From


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Other Suspect

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=7405&type=top

JACKSON COUNTY-- A former Carbondale police officer--


accused of robbing a bank-- will be tried separately from his
alleged accomplice.

A Jackson County judge has agreed to separate the cases of


Registered: Jul 2003 James Gaddis and Anthony Fike.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 The men are accused of robbing the First Southern Bank in
Carbondale at gunpoint.

Investigators say Gaddis and Fike knew each other because


they were neighbors, but court records show these two suspects
are now pointing the finger at one another.

Anthony Fike was quiet as he arrived at the Jackson County


courthouse about 20 minutes after his alleged partner-in-crime,
former Carbondale police officer James Gaddis.

The two men are accused of robbing the First Southern Bank on
Carbondale's west-side last October. The crime that was caught
on surveillance video.

Together-- investigators say the suspects stole nearly $23,000,


but the men are seemingly on opposing sides now.

Court records show James Gaddis is alleging that Anthony Fike


threatened the life of his wife and child unless he went along
with the robbery.

Those same court records also say Anthony Fike alleges that
James Gaddis was the mastermind behind the crime.

Investigators tell us Gaddis used his police gun in the hold-


up, and made a fake 911 call before the robbery to divert
police.

Gaddis had been a member of the Carbondale police


department since 2004. He was suspended after his arrest and
fired April 7th.

Gaddis is due back in court on July 15th. Fike's next hearing is


July 29th.

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GC Marciano quote:
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Originally posted by GC505
(Officer) James Gaddis is alleging that
(neighbor) Anthony Fike threatened the life of
his wife and child unless he went along with
the robbery.

Registered: Jul 2003


Location: Chicago, Illinois Right. I'm sure somebody is going to believe that, you retarded
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pig.

What an idiot.

Gaddis, I hope you get assraped in prison on a daily basis, you


fucking douchebag. Don't worry about the wife and kid while
you're away, I'm sure some other guy will take fine care of
them.

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Car Crashes Into Courthouse, Driver May Have Broken


Neck
By Mona Sandefur
Benton Evening News
Tue Apr 07, 2009, 09:19 PM CDT

http://www.bentoneveningnews.com/ho...se?popular=true
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Benton, Ill. - Franklin County Circuit Clerk Donna Sevenski
Posts: 9967 continues to thank God — and her son, Scott, who made a
phone call that probably saved her life.

“I was the only one in the courthouse,” Sevenski said. “It was
about 4:26 p.m. I was getting ready to step into my office with

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a stack of papers in my hand when my cell phone rang. I was


standing outside my office door, stopped at the desk outside the
door and sat the paperwork down on the desk to answer the
phone.”

What happened next is something people will be talking about


for quite some time to come.

Sheriff Bill Wilson and Captain Don Jones said Brandon D.


Mandrell, 28, of Benton, was traveling at a high rate of speed
when his 2002 Oldsmobile Bravada left the roadway, striking
concrete and a tree before coming to rest on its top outside the
circuit clerk’s office.

“If I had been in my office, I would have been killed,” Sevenski


said. “I didn’t know what had happened until I started smelling
gasoline. At first, I thought a bomb had gone off.

“When the SUV struck the courthouse after striking the tree, the
plate-glass window and frame flew into the office, striking the
door and shattering,” she said. “Part of the glass, mud and
debris flew into the office that is shared by the personnel.”

Sevenski said she was badly shaken up following the crash and
immediately called the sheriff’s department.

“I was told to get out of the courthouse immediately,” she said.


“My son heard the crash over the telephone. By the time I got
outside, he was standing there to make sure that I was all right
and to see what had happened. It was very frightening.”

She said her office is temporarily unusable.

“There is still part of the tree, broken glass and mud


everywhere,” Sevenski said. “One of the license plates and the
license plate holder is sitting in my office. Mud flew onto the
wall behind the office door and slid down the wall overnight.
Now, there is a pile of mud mixed with broken glass and pieces
of concrete behind the office door.

“All of the paperwork on my desk is covered with mud,” she


said. “All of these are records that must be kept. I am waiting
for the insurance adjuster to arrive.”

Wilson said Mandrell was traveling near speeds of 50 miles per


hour when he struck the concrete that sits around the perimeter
of the Franklin County Courthouse.

“A sketch of the accident indicates that he didn’t even attempt


to make the turn as he was heading onto the public square,” he
said. “At that time of day, there are a lot of people getting off
work and the square is usually bumper-to-bumper traffic. It is
unbelievable that no one was killed.

“We don’t have the reports back yet, but his blood-alcohol

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content was very high,” Wilson said. “He was transported to the
Franklin Hospital before being transferred to an Evansville
hospital. We have since learned that his neck may be broken.”

He said Mandrell was charged with illegal transportation of


alcohol, driving under the influence, failure to reduce speed to
avoid an accident and not wearing a seatbelt.”

Jones said water to the east side of the courthouse had been
shut off, temporarily.

“The vehicle sheered off the top of the water main,” he said.

Benton firefighter David Moore said two engines and five


firefighters responded to the scene.

“When we got to the scene, the SUV was leaking gasoline,” he


said. “There was gasoline on the side of the courthouse and the
gas tank was broken and leaking fuel. We used an absorbent on
the spilled gasoline and attempted to plug up the leaking gas
tank.

“The situation could have been much worse,” Moore said. “It
had the potential for a great loss of life.”

Moore said agencies worked well together. “There was good


coordination between the emergency services, including the
sheriff’s deputies, Benton police officers and the ambulance
service personnel,” he said.

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Local Teen Beaten In Jail-- Who's to Blame?


10:52 pm CT April 09, 2009.

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=7224&type=top

WILLIAMSON COUNTY-- A local teen claims he was beaten up


while spending a night in jail, but Williamson County
Sheriff's officials say it's not their fault.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
Days after 17 year old Douglas Kirby was beaten up he's still
recovering from the one night he spent in the Williamson
County Jail.

"It just hurts to eat... and sleep at night" says Kirby.

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Medical records show Kirby is suffering from numerous


injuries; the most serious is a broken jaw which will
require surgery.

Kirby described to us how he got it.

"I felt like he was hitting me in the back of my head so I


wouldn't have bruises, but whenever he was hitting me in the
back of my head, my head was bouncing off the ground" says
Kirby.

In great detail, he described the violence he says officers


at the Williamson County Jail inflicted-- for talking back
to them.

"He grabs me by my hair he says, 'You had enough


yet?' {makes bam noise} and he just keeps slamming my head
off the ground" says Kirby.

His mother is outraged and has filed a complaint asking for an


investigation.

"There's no reason for a verbal talking for you to be able to beat


someone so bad you break their jaw" cries Cindy Sullins.

She's the one who originally called police, hoping officers would
calm down her son after a household argument; never
imagining it would have such consequences.

"Yes I was shocked, and I was mad and I was angry and now I
want revenge. I want these people to lose their jobs and I want
them to never hurt anybody again" cries Sullins.

Sheriff Tom Cundiff runs the Williamson County Jail and claims
the case is simple-- Kirby's lying.

"I think the truth in this case ends where he says he was
injured. He was injured, but it wasn't by us." says Sheriff
Cundiff.

The Sheriff let us read statements from other inmates claiming


it was one of them who beat Kirby but so far, the inmate has
not been charged.

Kirby says there's surveillance video that will prove his


story true. Cundiff admits there is a tape but would not
show it to us.

So for now-- while it's clear Kirby was seriously hurt, it's unclear
who's to blame.

His mother wants to make sure staff at the Williamson County


jail are not taking punishment into their own hands.

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"Of course you'd believe a police officer you'd think. I don't


believe in these police officers in Williamson County anymore"
says Sullins.

By: Christen Craig


ccraig@wsiltv.com

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photoman quote:
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Kirby says there's surveillance video that will prove his
Registered: Aug 2006 story true. Cundiff admits there is a tape but would not
Location: Under your bed... show it to us.
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Video? Roll that Tape!


If they didn't have anything to hide the tape would have already
been released. I can assure you the tape will be requested through
a 'public records request' by this mans lawyer, they at that point
will have no alternative but to release it!

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Originally posted by photoman

Video? Roll that Tape!


If they didn't have anything to hide the tape
would have already been released. I can
assure you the tape will be requested through
a 'public records request' by this mans lawyer,
they at that point will have no alternative but
to release it!
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Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865

I'm betting that the tape has already been "accidentally"


destroyed.

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I'm betting that the tape has already been
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Sad, but true!


Or they turn over the 'condensed' - 'creative edited' -
'missing audio' version.
The fact they admit a tape exist will force them to turn over
something!

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GOT FREE SPEECH?

A 30-year-old man is accused of beating up an off-duty Chicago


police officer at a city auto pound over the weekend, police said
today.
Registered: Mar 2007
Location: Behind You Demon Fox, of the 0-99 block of South Central Avenue is charged
Posts: 1060 with aggravated battery to a police officer, a felony, criminal
trespassing and resisting arrest, both misdemeanors.

Fox was at the auto pound at 701 N. Sacramento Ave. about 11:40
a.m. Sunday when he was told by the off-duty officer that he was
trespassing and needed to leave, police said. It's unclear why Fox
and the officer were at the pound that day.

Fox refused. When the officer tried to arrest Fox, he resisted, police

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said.Fox grabbed the off-duty officer, slammed him against a wall


and onto the floor and punched and kicked the officer several
times, police said.

A request eventually was made for extra officers to respond to the


scene.

The officer suffered scrapes to his right knee and left eye and a
contusion to his forehead, police said. He was taken to a local
hospital for treatment.

Bail for Fox, who runs a limosine service, was set at $25,000 when
he scheduled appeared for a bond hearing today at the Cook
County Criminal Courts building. His next secheduled court
appearance is Mar. 9.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/...hicago-cop.html

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liberranter quote:
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Fox was at the auto pound at 701 N.
Sacramento Ave. about 11:40 a.m. Sunday
when he was told by the off-duty officer that
he was trespassing and needed to leave,
police said. It's unclear why Fox and the
officer were at the pound that day.

Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ Why is the cop's name and rank not mentioned? This is
Posts: 5865 something that seriously pisses me off about MSM outlets.
They'll identify suspects by name, but grant cops anonymity.

quote:

The officer suffered scrapes to his right knee


and left eye and a contusion to his forehead,
police said. He was taken to a local hospital
for treatment.

Bail for Fox, who runs a limosine service, was


set at $25,000 when he scheduled appeared
for a bond hearing today at the Cook County
Criminal Courts building. His next recheduled
court appearance is Mar. 9.

So the little bitch cop gets a few minor scrapes and bruises that
wouldn't make my six-year-old grandson cry, but the suspect
gets slapped with $25K bond (and this after the cowardly bitch
cop calls for backup)?

Somebody needs to show this chickenshit bitch of a cop what


"aggravated battery" really is.

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GC Marciano You can "beat up" one of these pansy assed Chicago swine by
Copwatcher Extraordinaire blowing on them.

Merely looking at them makes them cry for backup.

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Night Raven LOL!


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quote:

The officer suffered scrapes to his right knee and left


eye and a contusion to his forehead, police said. He
was taken to a local hospital for treatment.

Registered: May 2008


Location:
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This incident is a clear indication that copscum departments


everywhere need to require their "officers" to wear their Swat
hockey helmets both on and off duty. Idiots running around without
precautionary safety measures are bound to get hurt.

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It's also a predictable outcome that the copscum, left to fend for
himself like a normal citizen without the "backup" of other Fat Blue
Line Club members, got his ass kicked. Cowards who travel in packs
don't do so well when they are behooved to actually defend
themselves on their own.

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Alexander County sheriff involved in deadly crash that


killed mother-in-law
Feb 18, 2009 07:31 PM
By Heartland News

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=9865079

ALEXANDER COUNTY, IL (KFVS) - The Illinois State Police is


Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
investigating a deadly crash involving Alexander County Sheriff
Posts: 9967 David Barkett and his mother-in-law.

It happened early Wednesday morning at 1:25 at the sheriff's


home on 28th Street.

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According to Illinois State Police, Barkett was responding to a


domestic violence call in his squad car which was parked at his
mother-in-law's house next to his house. ISP says as he backed
out he hit Mary Elizabeth Burnley, 87, of Cairo. Burnley was
pronounced dead at the scene.

Burnley was an Alzheimer's patient and lived in the house next


to Barkett, according to the Alexander County Sheriff's
Department.

No charges have been filed. ISP is still investigating.

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Police: Alexander Co. sheriff backs over, kills 87-year-old


mother-in-law
By Associated Press

http://www.wqad.com/news/sns-ap-il-...0,3658926.story

2:06 PM CST, February 18, 2009


CAIRO, Ill. (AP) — Illinois State Police say they're investigating
how and why a southern Illinois sheriff backed over and killed
his 87-year-old mother-in-law.

Investigators say Mary Elizabeth Burnley died at the scene of


the accident shortly before 1:30 a.m. Wednesday outside
Alexander County Sheriff David Barkett's home in the southern
Illinois town of Cairo (KAYR'-oh).

State police say Barkett was responding to a call for police


service and was backing out of his driveway when he hit
Burnley.

It isn't immediately clear if the widow lived at Barkett's home.

No charges have been filed.

Barkett doesn't have a listed home telephone number, and he


didn't return a message left at his office.

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quote:

Originally posted by GC505


ISP says as he backed out he hit Mary
Elizabeth Burnley, 87, of Cairo. Burnley was
pronounced dead at the scene.

Registered: Jul 2003


Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Isn't it always "an accident" when you kill your Mother in Law?

NAME:
David W. Barkett
HOME ADDRESS:
2727 Holbrook Ave.
Cairo, IL 62914
TELEPHONE:
618-734-1048

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quote:

Originally posted by GC505

Isn't it always "an accident" when you kill


your Mother in Law?

Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ Yes, assuming that one actually succeeds in killing her.
Posts: 5865 Mothers-in-law are like cancer or cockroaches - almost
impossible to get rid of.

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GC Marciano Sheriff's Car Backs Over Mother-In-Law


Copwatcher Extraordinaire 12:10 pm CT February 19, 2009.

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_details.php?newsID=6855

CAIRO-- State police are investigating a deadly accident


involving the Alexander County sheriff.

Sheriff David Barkett was responding to a domestic violence call


early Wednesday morning, but as he backed out of a driveway
Registered: Jul 2003 near his home, he ran over his mother-in-law.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 The accident happened just before 1:30 A.M.

Officers say the victim-- Mary Elizabeth Burnley-- suffered from


Alzheimer's and wandered out of her home, into the path of
Barkett's vehicle.

Police say Barkett's squad car was parked next to his home on
28th Street in Cairo, but as he backed out, tragedy happened.

"He hit a pedestrian as he was responding to the call" says


Bridget Rice with Illinois State Police in Ullin.

Police say the victim was Barkett's mother-in-law-- an


Alzheimer's patient who lived next door.

"She was 87 years-old and she was pronounced dead at the


scene" says Rice.

Barkett declined to speak on camera--


But his office released a statement calling the incident simply "a
tragic vehicular accident."

Services for Mary Burnley will be held at the Jones Funeral


Home in Kevil, Kentucky. Visitation is Friday from 5 until 8. The
funeral service is Saturday at eleven.

No charges have been filed at this time, but state police say the
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DUI crackdowns could cross line


Last Update: 5/23 6:46 pm
Jeff Stensland, NewsChannel 6

http://www.wpsdtv.com/news/local/st...5d-88a4efa01649

Heed the warning: designate a sober driver. Illinois State Police


will find out your blood alcohol level one way or another this
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
weekend.
Posts: 9967
ISP troopers are on virtually every highway, with at least one
trooper every ten miles. They promise if they suspect you of
driving under the influence, they'll get your blood alcohol
level in less than an hour.

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"If you refuse our tests, the officer might ask you to do,
whether it be blood or urine or breath, then there are
penalties that go along with that," Trooper David Sneed
said.

Trooper Sneed said it's zero tolerance on the roads this


weekend throughout Illinois.

Now through Memorial Day, if an officer pulls you over on


suspicion of DUI, you have up to 20 minutes to take their field
sobriety tests. If you refuse, state's attorneys and judges in
several counties will be ready to issue a warrant to get
whatever sample they can.

ISP plans to get what it wants in less than an hour.

"Once you receive that driver's license, you're basically making


a contract with the state of Illinois which says we promise to
abide by all the rules of the land," Sneed said. "Whether it's
wearing a seat belt, or drinking and driving or having open
alcohol in your vehicle; that's all part of the laws and rules of
the land.

"We have to abide by those," Sneed said.

Several defense attorneys say the state is going beyond


its limits. Marion attorney Winston Throgmorton says this
practice is a complete violation of the 4th amendment
guaranteeing right to privacy.

"There's got to be an incentive to driver responsibly,"


Throgmorton said. "We keep getting hit over the head with
penalties, rather than reasons to be a responsible citizen."

Rather than penalize the bad for breaking the law and raising
insurance premiums for everyone, Throgmorton says
responsible drivers should receive bonuses.

Trooper Sneed reiterates driving is a privilege, not a right. He


also says efforts by the state have worked in curbing deadly
crashes.

"We've had the lowest fatality rates since 1924," Sneed said.
"We're at an 83-year low. Things are getting better," he said.

Sneed anticipates more drivers traveling city-to-city rather than


state-to-state this year. Because of that, he says troopers will
be extra alert for drunk drivers, since they may not be on the
road all that long.

Nationwide, state departments of transportation are sponsoring


Memorial Day weekend crackdowns. Most campaigns are
looking for unbuckled drivers, but speeding and DUI are also at
the top of that list.

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quote:

Originally posted by GC505


[Trooper Sneed] says efforts by the state have
worked in curbing deadly crashes. "We've had
the lowest fatality rates since 1924," Sneed
said. "We're at an 83-year low.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
Of course some pig would try to take credit for the reduced
fatality rate, even though it's been proven that they have
absolutely nothing to do with it.

The police took credit when the fatality rate dropped


immediately after front and passenger side airbags became
standard in 1992.

They took credit again when side impact bags were


standardized in all new production models in 1998.

They took credit again in 2004 when the overall vehicle safety
standards were increased, resulting in a reduced fatality rate.

These lying, scumbag pieces of shit try to steal undue credit at


every opportunity.

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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05-24-2008 10:12 AM

MGMAN "Trooper Sneed reiterates driving is a privilege, not a right."


Senior Member
I get so tired of reading or listening to Cops say that. Most times
when that statement is used its used inappropriately! All this means
is that you can lose your legal ability to drive if you are proved to
be a hazard on the road, thats all. This policy does NOT mean you
lose your rights to Due Process OR your basic rights under the
constitution. The Cops and the people that prosecute these cases
have the burden of proof to PROVE you are a danger on the roads,
and as I said they still have to respect the rule of law and the
motoring publics right to due process.

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Location: Peoples Rebublik of Mr Officer, The US Constitution is NOT just a formality, or something to sidestep!
Georgia When your butt is on the line the first thing you do is scream about “due process”
Posts: 1131 and the “rule of law”, how about extending this to the general public!

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, yet expecting different results."

Members of the NCIS (Narcotics Criminal Investigation and Suppression team)


that work in Stephens, Habersham and Rabun Counties in North East Georgia are
murderers! They killed a man in cold blood!!

DO NOT talk to cops, they are NOT your friend, and NOTHING good can come
from it. You have the right to stay silent, DO IT!

Furor fit laesa saepius patientia

Militamus sub spe.

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Navigatr1 quote:
Extended Sabatical

Several defense attorneys say the state is going


beyond its limits. Marion attorney Winston Throgmorton
says this practice is a complete violation of the 4th
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: amendment guaranteeing right to privacy.
Posts: 31403
"There's got to be an incentive to driver responsibly,"
Throgmorton said. "We keep getting hit over the head
with penalties, rather than reasons to be a responsible
citizen."

There is no right to privacy anymore since public safety essentially


trumps the right to privacy, and the courts have so far agreed. We
are punishing formerly convicted offenders in the name of public
safety long after they have completed their sentences in the form of
offender registries. The politicians don't call it punishment, but a
civil regulatory scheme.

The line between public information and privacy was the court
house since people had to physically travel to the court house. Now
most of that information can be obtained on the web without
traveling to the court house.

Rather than letting an offender become part of society again, we


continually shame them on the Internet. Not only that we keep
changing the rules by adding more and more restrictions. In some
cases offenders have to register retroactively to the enactment of
the law even though they weren't originally required to register.
States like Ohio will require a person to register who hasn't even
been convicted of a crime.

Since the right to privacy has been all but obliterated by the courts
and the politicians in the name of public safety, sobriety
checkpoints are perfectly legal. We live in a police state where we
value public safety more than a person's right to privacy here in
Amerika.

Even the 5th amendment right to not incriminate yourself is being


obliterated by the sobriety checkpoints. If you refuse to a sobriety
test, then you are automatically subject to arrest whether you are
under the influence or not. You have to submit to the tests in order
to prove your innocence in the name of public safety.

--Navigatr1

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conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

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and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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05-24-2008 08:25 PM

MGMAN I just thought I would post this. According to what I have been
Senior Member reading DRIVING IS A RIGHT!!!!

For many years professionals within the criminal justice system


have acted upon the belief that traveling by motor vehicle upon the
roadway was a privilege that was gained by a citizen only after
approval by their respective state governments in the form of a
permit or drivers license.

Legislators, police officers, and court officials are being made aware
that there are court decisions disproving the opinion that traveling
is a privilege that requires government approval.

Registered: Jan 2008 "Even the legislature has no power to deny to a citizen the right to
Location: Peoples Rebublik of travel upon the highway and transport his property in the ordinary
Georgia course of his business or pleasure, though this right may be
Posts: 1131
regulated in accordance with the public interest and convenience."
Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 22.

("Regulated" here means traffic safety enforcement: stop lights,


signs, etc.)

"The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to
transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile,
is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit at will, but a
common right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the
pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 179.

It could not be stated more conclusively that citizens of the states


have a right to travel, without approval or restrictions (license), and
that this right is protected under the U.S. Constitution. Here are
other court decisions that expound the same facts:

"The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen


cannot be deprived without due process of law under the 5th
Amendment." Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.

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"Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to move from one


place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal
liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the
territory of any State is a right secured by the 14th amendment and
by other provisions of the Constitution." Schactman v. Dulles, 96
App DC 287, 293.

As hard as it is for those in law enforcement to believe, there is no


room for speculation in these court decisions. The American citizen
does indeed have the inalienable right to use the roadways
unrestricted in any manner as long as they are not damaging or
violating property or rights of others.

Government, in requiring the people to file for drivers license,


vehicle registrations, mandatory insurance, and demanding they
stop for vehicle inspections, roadblocks, etc. are restricting and
therefore violating the peoples’ common law right to travel.

Is this a new legal interpretation on this subject? Apparently not.


The American Citizens and Lawmen Association, in conjunction with
the U.S. Federal Law Research Center are presently involved in
studies in several areas involving questions on constitutional law.
One of the many areas under review is that of the citizen’s right to
travel. A spokesman stated in an interview:

"Upon researching this subject over many months, substantial case


law has presented itself that completely substantiates the position
that the ‘right to travel unrestricted upon the nations highways’ is
and always has been a fundamental right of every Citizen."

This means that the beliefs and opinions of our state legislators, the
courts, and those of us involved in the law enforcement profession
have acted upon for years have been in error. Researchers armed
with actual facts state that U.S. case law is overwhelming. To
restrict in any fashion the movement of the individual American, in
free exercise of the right to travel upon the roadways (excluding
commerce, which the state legislatures are correct in regulating), is
a serious breach of those freedoms secured by the U.S.
Constitution, as well as most state constitutions.

Our system of law dictates that there is only one way to remove a
right belonging to the people. That is by a person knowingly
waiving a particular right.

Some of the confusion in our present system has arisen because


many millions of people have waived their right to travel
unrestricted, and opted into the jurisdiction of the state. Those who
have knowingly given up these rights are legally regulated by state
law, and must obtain permits, registrations, insurance, etc.

Every police officer should keep the following U.S. court ruling in
mind before issuing citations:

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"The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be


converted into a crime." Miller v. U.S., F.2d 486, 489.

Reprinted from a special edition of "Aid and Abet" bulletin #11, P.O.
Box 8787, Phoenix, AZ. 85066, by Officer Jack McLamb.

It is important to be aware of a different point of view about traffic


since a near police state exists on America’s highways today. Traffic
Support Services’ goal is to reestablish the RIGHT to travel!

__________________

Mr Officer, The US Constitution is NOT just a formality, or something to sidestep!


When your butt is on the line the first thing you do is scream about “due process”
and the “rule of law”, how about extending this to the general public!

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, yet expecting different results."

Members of the NCIS (Narcotics Criminal Investigation and Suppression team)


that work in Stephens, Habersham and Rabun Counties in North East Georgia are
murderers! They killed a man in cold blood!!

DO NOT talk to cops, they are NOT your friend, and NOTHING good can come
from it. You have the right to stay silent, DO IT!

Furor fit laesa saepius patientia

Militamus sub spe.

Prius mori quam fidem fallere

Quietem nemo impune lacesset.

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05-25-2008 03:02 AM

photoman U.S. v Guest, 383 U.S. 745 (1966) & Shapiro v Thompson,
Senior Member 394 U.S. 618 (1969)

Registered: Aug 2006 The presumed right to travel is firmly established in U.S. law and
Location: Under your bed... precedent. In U.S. v Guest, 383 U.S. 745 (1966), the Court noted,
Posts: 875
"It is a right that has been firmly established and repeatedly
recognized."

In fact, in Shapiro v Thompson, 394 U.S. 618 (1969),

Justice Stewart noted in a concurring opinion that "it is a right


broadly assertable against private interference as well as
governmental action. Like the right of association ... it is a virtually
unconditional personal right, guaranteed by the Constitution to us
all."

It is interesting to note that the Articles of Confederation had an


explicit right to travel; it is now thought that the right is so
fundamental that the Framers may have thought it unnecessary to

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10-20-2008 12:35 PM

photoman If a person without an IL DL is required by ISP to endure a forced


Senior Member test - they have just set themselves up for one hell of a lawsuit!

Registered: Aug 2006 This is extended to anyone that does not posses a IL DL - no matter
Location: Under your bed... if you live in the state of IL or not!
Posts: 875
If you don't "buy in" to the system they can in no way force a test,
so this is false information the ISP is putting out and could be
considered criminal!

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Even when the American "criminal justice" system manages to


function as it should, and convicts and sentences a criminal porker
to jail, his sty mates just can't believe it. LOL

Registered: May 2008


Location:
Posts: 4812 Chicago cops ask court to reverse conviction
Friday, September 12, 2008 6:20 AM EDT
The Associated Press
By MICHAEL J. CRUMB Associated Press Writer

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DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — About 40 Chicago police officers rode a


bus from Chicago to Des Moines in hopes of persuading an appeals
court to free a fellow police officer serving a prison sentence.

Officer Michael Mette was sentenced to five years in prison after


being convicted on an assault charge. The charge was the result of
an October 2005 fight in which Mette punched Dubuque student
Jake Gothard, who suffered a broken nose, cheek and jaw.

The case prompted an outcry in Chicago, where Cook County


State's Attorney Richard Devine and Chicago Police Superintendent
Jody Weis and others wrote to Iowa Gov. Chet Culver, imploring
him to pardon Mette.

John Kupczyk, a police department commander, said it was the


camaraderie of the department that brought the officers to Des
Moines on Thursday to ask the Court of Appeals to reverse the
conviction and dismiss the charge.

"We come as a band of brothers," Kupczyk said. "We're seeking


justice."

Another officer wore a black T-shirt that quoted Mette: "Just


because I am a police officer doesn't mean I'm supposed to take a
beating." The T-shirt also read "Injustice in Iowa."

Mette's attorney Mark McCormick told the three-panel court that


there is no argument that Mette hit Gothard. But McCormick argued
that the evidence was insufficient to support Mette's conviction.

Mette was in Dubuque to celebrate his brother's 25th birthday when


he encountered Gothard, who followed him from a party and
pushed him three times before Mette punched him. McCormick
argued the assault was justified because Mette was acting in self-
defense.

The district court judge who convicted Mette ruled that the officer
had options other than hitting Gothard, including walking away,
trying to talk to Gothard or calling the police.

"Is it logical to think in the heat of the moment that Mr. Mette
should stop and talk to Mr. Gothard?" McCormick asked. "That is
out of the realm of reality."

The attorney for the state, Linda Hines, argued that Mette could
have avoided the fight but instead chose to hit Gothard.

"The court found he had other options," she said. "He was pushed.
He hit back. He hit so hard that Mr. Gothard was knocked
unconscious and fell backward.

"The defendant could have used alternative methods — the state


did disprove the argument of self defense," Hines said.

Mette's mother Patricia attended Thursday's hearing. She said it

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was nice to see the show of support from her son's fellow officers.

"There's nothing any of us can do. They believe in Michael and the
only way they could show their support was to travel here today,"
she said.

Patricia Mette said her son calls her once a week and that she and
her husband, who was a Chicago police officer for 32 years, travel
to see their son once a month.

"There's nothing I can do, so I'm there for him when he needs me,"
she said. "We take it one day at a time and hope for the best."

__________________
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a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live
peacefully. We are not just whores for power and oil, but killer
whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
--Dr. Hunter S. Thompson, Kingdom of Fear (2003)

"Society had a crime problem, so it hired cops. Next thing society


knew, it had a cop problem."
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Night Raven "Justice"?


Senior Member

http://www.charter.net/news/read.ph...USNWC34L2_UNEWS

Appeals court orders Chicago officer freed


Wednesday, October 1, 2008 10:34 AM EDT
The Associated Press

Registered: May 2008


Location:
Posts: 4812 DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — The Iowa Court of Appeals has ordered
that a Chicago police officer jailed in the assault of Iowa man be
freed from prison.

The appeals court ruled Wednesday that there wasn't enough


evidence for a district court judge to find that Michael Mette could
have retreated from a 2005 drunken altercation in Dubuque.

Mette was arrested and sentenced to five years in prison after he


punched Jake Gothard, fracturing his nose, cheek and jaw.

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Mette's lawyer argued that he only struck back after Gothard


pushed him three times.

Several prominent Illinois officials including Chicago Mayor Richard


Daley and Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis had called for
Mette's release.

The appeals court ruling sends the case back to district court for
acquittal.

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"We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the whole world --
a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live
peacefully. We are not just whores for power and oil, but killer
whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and
that is how history will judge us... No redeeming social value. Just
whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you."
--Dr. Hunter S. Thompson, Kingdom of Fear (2003)

"Society had a crime problem, so it hired cops. Next thing society


knew, it had a cop problem."
--Tom Robbins

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liberranter One has to wonder if Chicago corruption and extortion extends


Super Moderator westward over the state line, reaching high up into the bowels
of neighboring state governments.

quote:

The [Iowa] appeals court ruled Wednesday


that there wasn't enough evidence for a
district court judge to find that Michael Mette
could have retreated from a 2005 drunken
altercation in Dubuque.
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865

Does any sane person with an IQ on the plus side of zero think
that this court would have made an identical ruling in an
identical case if the appellant was a mere citizen?

Fuck the Iowa appeals court and every last one of its corrupt
"justices!"

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powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." -


Thomas Jefferson

"Oink If You Hate Freedom"

"And this brings us to a point that has to be driven home with


the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
— W. Somerset Maugham, Strictly Personal (1941)

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GC Marciano Email received today, 10/08/08:


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
"vine@globalnotifications.com

10/8/2008

This e-mail is to inform you that MICHAEL METTE has


been released from custody as of 10/8/2008. The
reason for this release is: Release by court order. If you
have any concerns about your immediate safety, contact
Registered: Jul 2003 your local law enforcement agency, or if you have an
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
emergency, call 911.

For more information, crime victims can contact the


Department of Correction's Central Office of Victim
Programs at 1-800-778-1182.

This notification is sponsored by the Iowa Attorney


General's Office. It is our hope that this information has
been helpful to you.

Thank you"

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
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Navigatr1 Chicago cop Gerald Callahan accused of attacking two people at Niles
Extended Sabatical lounge

BRIEF: Chicago cop accused of attacking two people at Niles


lounge
Registered: Jul 2003 http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site...20News/1576409/
Location:
Posts: 31403 Sunday, May 18, 2008; Posted: 11:04 AM

May 18, 2008 (Chicago Tribune - McClatchy-Tribune Information


Services via COMTEX) -- -- A Chicago police officer has been
relieved of his duties after he allegedly attacked two people early
Saturday at a lounge in Niles.

Gerald Callahan, 42, was charged with two counts of battery

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stemming from the incident at The Chambers Seafood Grille and


Chop House, 6881 N. Milwaukee Ave., Niles police said.

Callahan attacked the two victims around 1:50 a.m. "for no


apparent reason," police said. Callahan fled the scene and was
arrested about 40 minutes later in the 6700 block of Forest View
Lane in Niles, police said.

One of the victims, a 61-year-old male from Morton Grove, suffered


lacerations and bruises to his head and face. The other victim, a 50-
year-old female from Niles, suffered lacerations on her arm and lip.
The two vicims are friends, police said.

A spokesman for Chicago police said Callahan was relieved of his


police duties on Saturday and the Independent Police Review
Authority is investigating.

Following his arrest, Callahan was released on bond. He is expected


to appear in court on the battery charges on June 17.

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owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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chitownbrian The fix begins already. He beats the daylights out of an older couple
Senior Member and gets charged with misdemeanor battery. If he was an average
citizen he would be charged with felony agg battery. In IL if a
Registered: Nov 2004 citizen merely touches a cop, LITERALLY just touches a cop, they
Location: Chicago area are charged with felony agg battery. Two sets of laws, one for us
Posts: 103
common folk, the other for the "People in power." Cops can beat old
people senseless and only get a misdemeanor charge?

Time for the revolution to begin.

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http://www.nwherald.com/articles/20...55715029021.txt

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Location:
Posts: 31403 NILES (AP) - The Chicago Police Department has relieved an officer
of his duties after he was accused of attacking two people at a
lounge in Niles while off duty.

Niles police said 42-year-old Officer Gerald Callahan was charged


with two counts of battery stemming from the incident early
Saturday at The Chambers Seafood Grille and Chop House.

They said Callahan attacked the two alleged victims for no apparent
reason, fled the scene, and was arrested about 40 minutes later.

A 61-year-old man from Morton Grove suffered lacerations and


bruises to his head and face. The other alleged victim, a 50-year-
old woman from Niles, suffered lacerations on her arm and lip.

A spokesman for Chicago police said the Independent Police Review


Authority was investigating.

Callahan is scheduled to appear in court June 17.

A man who answered the phone at the only published listing for a
Gerald Callahan in Chicago said Sunday that he was not a police
officer.

The incident is not the first time Callahan’s behavior has come
under fire. In 2006, then-Superintendent Phil Cline tried to have
him fired for an incident two years earlier in which he allegedly
threatened several other police officers. But the police board
rejected Cline’s recommendation.

The arrest is the latest in a string of embarrassing incidents for the


department involving off-duty officers. In March of last year,
Anthony Abbate was charged with beating a female bartender after
a surveillance camera video of the incident was shown around the
world. A short time later, three officers were charged after they
allegedly beat up four businessmen in a bar. Abbate and the other
officers all have pleaded not guilty.

Amid the controversy, Cline announced his retirement, and Mayor


Richard Daley replaced him with Jody Weis, who came to the
department from the FBI with a mandate to clean up the
department’s image that had been tarnished by those incidents and
others involving officers.

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Junior Member Alcohol Abuse

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Location: Chicago
Posts: 23 By Angela Rozas and Jo Napolitano | Tribune reporters
May 20, 2008

A Chicago police officer who is alleged to have beaten up a couple


at a Niles bar this weekend has a history of threatening violence
and abusing alcohol, court and police records show.

Chicago police officials tried to fire Officer Gerald Callahan for


cursing and lunging at supervisors and refusing to take a
Breathalyzer test after other officers reported smelling alcohol on
his breath at work in March 2006. But last January, the Police Board
voted 5-3 to suspend him for two years. Callahan returned to work
in February because he had been suspended since the incident.

Callahan, 42, the son and grandson of former Chicago police


officers, was cleared of another incident in 2004 when he was
accused of threatening other officers in a locker room.

But he served a 30-day suspension in early 2006 for being


intoxicated while off duty in January 2004. In that incident,
Callahan arrested a bartender who refused to serve him more
drinks. The bartender sued and settled with the city for $15,000.

On Saturday, Callahan was arrested a block from the Chambers


Seafood Grille and Chop House in Niles on two misdemeanor
battery counts for punching a 61-year-old Morton Grove man and a
50-year-old Niles woman. Over the weekend, Callahan said he was
bitten by a police dog and mistreated by authorities, but Niles police
disputed his claims.

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The man, who received a laceration to the forehead and cheekbone,


told police Callahan came over and punched him in the head. He
told police he did not know why Callahan hit him, said Niles Police
Sgt. Tom Davis, reading from a police report. The woman told
police that Callahan struck her in the arms, chest and head,
knocking her to the floor from a bar stool.

A female bartender told police she served Callahan two or three


beers in an hour before seeing him approach the couple and begin
fighting with them. Callahan was later found lying in bushes on top
of his un-holstered gun, Davis said. It is against Chicago Police
Department rules for an officer to carry a gun while drinking.

Callahan could not be reached Monday for comment.

At a hearing before the Chicago Police Board in October, Callahan


said he is an alcoholic and has sought treatment several times. A
doctor also testified that Callahan had bipolar depression.

Callahan agreed that he had used inappropriate language with


supervisors in the 2006 incident, but he denied physically
threatening them.

"I feel that I have my arms around the situation. I know alcohol to
me is poison," a transcript of the hearing quoted Callahan as
saying. "You know, I made mistakes in my past, which I regret, but
nevertheless I think given the opportunity to go back, I can
definitely be a useful member of this department."

Attorneys for the city argued that Callahan is a safety risk.

"Are we waiting for Mr. Callahan to harm somebody before we say


it's wrong?" said Jennifer Sampson, attorney for the city.

Callahan was sued in U. S. District Court in 2004 by a bartender at


the Emerald Isle in Chicago who alleged Callahan became violent
after he refused to serve him after three drinks.

The bartender, Joseph McAleer, and bar patrons called the police to
report Callahan was drunk and dangerous. Callahan then arrested
McAleer.

Callahan was relieved of his police duties Saturday.

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Junior Member coming back to haunt ya, tough guy! Go beat up some more ole'
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By Jo Napolitano | Tribune reporter


May 19, 2008

A Chicago police officer accused of attacking a 61-year-old man and


his 50-year-old companion early Saturday at a Niles restaurant had
a run-in with the Police Department two years ago that could have
cost his job.

Police spokeswoman Monique Bond said then-Supt. Phil Cline


recommended Gerald Callahan's dismissal in 2006, but the police
board decided to reinstate him. She offered no further details.

In an interview with CLTV on Sunday, Callahan, who was charged


with two counts of battery after Saturday's incident, denied the
accusations and said he was mistreated by Niles police.

Callahan, 42, was arrested early Saturday in the 6700 block of


Forestview Lane in Niles after leaving Chambers Seafood Grill &
Chop House, 6881 N. Milwaukee Ave., Niles police said.

Police alleged that Callahan, who was off duty at the time, attacked
a man and his female friend about 2:30 a.m. Saturday for no
reason as they were sitting in the lounge.

At his home Sunday evening, Callahan, a 15-year veteran of the


force, told CLTV that he has been going to the restaurant for years
and has never had any trouble there. He said he had only two beers
Friday night when a woman he did not know began flirting with him
and asking him to dance, and he declined.

Later, Callahan said, a man whom he assumed to be the woman's


boyfriend became angry and violent with her, slamming her head

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into a bar. Callahan said he pushed the man and left the restaurant,
worrying about how it would look for another Chicago police officer
to be involved in an altercation at a bar.

After his arrest, Callahan said, he was bit on the leg by a Niles
police dog and that police denied him medical treatment and access
to medication while he was in custody.

Callahan "can say that ***s can fly," Niles Police Sgt. Robert
Tornabene said of his accusations of police mistreatment and
version of the confrontation. "He can make all the accusations he
wants. He has not made a formal complaint."

Tornabene said the charges were brought based on the statements


of witnesses at the restaurant.

CLTV reporter Holly Gregory contributed to this report.

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Felony Battery Charges Filed Against Chicago Cop


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Felony charges have been filed against a Chicago police officer


accused of attacking two people at a suburban lounge while off duty.

Gerald Callahan pleaded not-guilty Monday to two felony counts of


aggravated battery. He had initially faced misdemeanor charges for
the May incident at The Chambers Seafood Grille and Chop House
in Niles. Prosecutors have dropped those charges.

Bond was at $5,000 on the felony charges Monday.

Niles police say the 42-year-old officer attacked the two victims for
no apparent reason, fled the scene and was arrested about 40
minutes later.

A 61-year-old man and a 50-year-old woman were injured in the


attack.

Callahan is scheduled to appear in court September 29th in Skokie.

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CHICAGO - A Chicago police officer has been suspended for 15


Registered: Feb 2007 months for demanding free coffee and baked goods from six
Location: Florida
Posts: 577 different Starbucks.

Officer Barbara Nevers, a 14-year veteran, has also been ordered to


undergo counseling.

The Police Board ruled in May that 55-year-old Nevers intimidated


Starbucks employees by screaming at them and flashing her badge,
handcuffs or gun when they wanted her to pay. The board released
its findings Thursday.

Nevers' attorney says her client never used her job to demand

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coffee. She says some coffeehouses gave it to her for free because
she was an officer.

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huckabuck001 Any ordinary citizen doing this sort of thing would have been
Senior Member charged with ARMED robbery, and would be looking a 20 years in
PRISON!!! A cop does it, they slap 'em on the wrist, and give 'em a
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liberranter First in Florida, then in Chicago. I guess it proves that cops


Super Moderator everywhere have poor taste in coffee.

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BY FRANK MAIN Crime Reporter/fmain@suntimes.com

Over the years, cops have ripped off drug dealers, shaken down
drivers and pocketed mob bribes.

But Chicago Police Officer Barbara Nevers allegedly aimed lower.

Nevers, 55, was suspended for 15 months and ordered into


counseling for allegedly using her gun and badge to demand free
coffee and pastries from six Starbucks stores on the North Side
between 2001 and 2004.

Employees told the Chicago Police Board that Starbucks had an


unofficial policy of giving a free tall cup of drip coffee to cops and
firefighters in uniform.

But Nevers -- a desk officer for most of her 14-year career because
of a neck injury she suffered in the police academy -- would usually
come into Starbucks in plain clothes.

She regularly flashed her gun, and sometimes her badge, to get
free coffee at Starbucks near her home, including stores at 3358 N.
Broadway, 2525 1/2 N. Clark, 617 W. Diversey, 1000 W. Diversey,
1700 W. Diversey and 1157 W. Wrightwood, employees said.

"She was vehement about getting the free pastries," testified Cara
Carothers, who managed the store at 1700 W. Diversey. "This
woman is aggressive."

Nevers' attorney Tom Needham told the board "My client took
advantage of a custom. She's not the only police officer that's been
offered coffee." But a city attorney said it's against police policy for
officers to accept such freebies.

Nevers claimed she always put a $2 tip in the jar whenever she got
a free cup of joe and denied ever flashing her gun or asking for free
pastries for herself.

"I said, 'If you have any broken pastries or ones that you toss out, I
will take them because I feed the birds,' " Nevers told the board.

In June, five members of the police board found her guilty of retail
theft, using her position for official gain, unnecessary display of a
weapon, mistreatment of a person and other offenses. They voted
for Nevers' 15-month suspension and counseling.

Two board members dissented, saying they would have imposed a


stricter punishment, records show.

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pressure for coffee on the house

By Angela Rozas | Chicago Tribune reporter


August 8, 2008

It's maybe the last great perk a beat cop can get.

A free cup of coffee, a discount on a greasy burger.

Though many police departments officially frown on freebies, coffee


houses and restaurants around the city and suburbs give the gratis,
and the officers' bosses seem to look the other way.

But there's another unwritten rule: Cops can't demand the free
stuff. And that's just what officials say Chicago Police Officer
Barbara Nevers did, demanding free coffee and pastries from a half-
dozen Starbucks stores over the years, until she was banned from
one of the java joints and a memo was sent to other stores.

The 55-year-old veteran of more than a decade was suspended for


18 months and recommended for counseling after showing her gun
and badge to intimidate employees into giving her free coffee,
according to documents released Thursday.

Nevers' actions may have cemented one of the oldest stereotypes


about cops—you know, the one about the certain circular pastry
they're supposed to love. But she also took advantage of a time-
honored tradition: giving hard-working public servants a little
gastro-love.

A few Dunkin Donuts employees around Chicago said they often


give 10 percent discounts to cops and the elderly. A 7-Eleven
employee at 180 N. Franklin St. said she gives officers who visit a
free cup of coffee.

At the Golden Angel in the Lincoln Square neighborhood Thursday,


a waitress said, yes, they give 50 percent discounts to the cops who
frequent.

"There's a few sitting right here," Julie Paterno said as she watched
them munch on chicken-fried steak.

Paterno said customers like the feeling of safety when a police


officer is around, and the restaurant feels like it's helping out some
public servants.

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"I'm thinking most restaurants do it for protection, so they'll keep


an eye on the place," she said.

In Lincolnwood, at the all-night Whistler's Restaurant, owner Chris


Dimas says it's a give and take. He likes officers to be around his
restaurant late at night, and they like his food.

"At night, you don't know the people around, so it is good for them
to be here, eating my food," said Dimas, who has owned the place
for more than 30 years. There are some officers who don't accept
his freebies because their bosses don't like it, and some officers he
doesn't know and thus doesn't offer the discount, he said.

"If they feel comfortable with us, we feel comfortable with them
and appreciate what they do," he said.

Starbucks has no official policy regarding free coffee for police,


leaving that decision up to each franchise, company officials said
Thursday. According to testimony before the Chicago Police Board,
which decides cases of misconduct, employees in several North Side
Starbucks said they often give free 12-ounce coffee or tea to
officers on duty. But Nevers would often ask for a larger size or
multiple drinks, employees said.

Some employees testified that between 1999 and 2004 Nevers


frequented their stores weekly, often in street clothes, and flashed
a badge or flipped her jacket to reveal her gun if they asked for
payment. In 2004, she was accused of stealing a juice drink from
one Starbucks, but eventually was acquitted.

One manager at a Starbucks in the 1700 block of West Diversey


Parkway testified that Nevers started asking for free pastries too,
and got angry when the store employees refused. The manager told
Nevers she wasn't welcome in the store anymore, and testified that
Nevers walked behind the store counter, asking angrily if she wasn't
welcome, before leaving.

"She was vehement about getting the free pastries," the manager
testified.

Several employees said most officers who come in are friendly and
always offer to pay before being told that it is on the house. But
Nevers was unprofessional, they said, and rarely talked with
employees before demanding free coffee. Her actions made even
other officers who went to the Starbucks suspicious, believing she
could be a police impersonator, one employee testified.

A district manager eventually sent out a memo to stores Nevers


frequented, saying free coffee wasn't allowed for her anymore,
according to the testimony.

Nevers joined the force when she was 41 but after an injury in
training spent most of her time off the street at "call-back," where

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officers write reports and handle calls. She denied that she
demanded coffee or flashed her gun to intimidate the employees,
and said she only took free coffee when offered.

"I don't demand anything," Nevers told the Police Board, adding
that she always put $2 in a tip jar when she was offered free coffee.
Her attorney said Nevers was only accepting what had been a
custom in Chicago.

It's a custom that's not likely to change any time soon, rules or no
rules. At the Golden Angel on Thursday, Paterno tallied up the bill
she'd given the two police officers who stopped by—$6, after the 50
percent discount. The cops didn't forget their waitress, though.

"They both left $2 apiece," she said.

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Never try to keep a female swine from her dozen sinkers and her
java--or to actually demand that she pay for same, as that might
diminish her sense of entitlement. Bet she's a real porker, too!
SOUWEEEEEEEEEE!

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chitownbrian Pastor, A Former Cop, Charged w/ Beating 13 yr Old Girl


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From The Northwest Herald


Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Chicago area Pastor Charged With Abuse
Posts: 103

ELGIN – A 13-year-old Richmond girl who accused a male relative


of sexual abuse was beaten weekly for more than a month by an
Elgin pastor who was counseling her about the alleged sexual
abuse, police said Thursday.

The Rev. Daryl P. Bujak, 30, pastor at First Missionary Baptist


Church at 385 Silver St., Elgin, was disciplining the girl for making
the allegations, Elgin Police Lt. Mike Turner said.

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The girl's mother and the accused relative agreed to the discipline,
which involved Bujak allegedly spanking the girl repeatedly with a 3-
foot by 2-inch piece of wood molding on Wednesdays before church
services from March to May 2005, Turner said.

"He told them flat-out what he was going to do," Turner said.

The 13-year-old's mother told the Northwest Herald on Thursday


that she and the accused, Matthew Resh, brought the girl to Bujak
in mid-March 2005 because the mother thought that she was lying
about the sexual-assault allegations.

"She always lied a lot, so when she said these things about Matt,
her credibility was already damaged," the mother said. "She could
have easily been lying about this, as well."

The mother said that the first time they met with Bujak he told
them he was a former police officer and had worked with "tons of
molested teens."

The girl suffered bruises and welts to the back of her legs and
buttocks. Bujak, who turned himself in on Wednesday, was charged
with one misdemeanor count of battery.

Bujak also told Resh that he should spank the girl, the girl's mother
said. Resh, 33, of 26445 W. Route 134, Apt. 6, Ingleside, was
charged Monday with five counts of predatory criminal sexual
assault of a child. Resh is a former member of the Richmond Plan
Commission.

"It would be nothing for [Bujak] to spank her 30 or 40 times at one


sitting," the mother said. "Matt did the same thing. He would spank
her like 100 times at one sitting."

Bujak would spank the girl once a week and Resh would spank her
more often, the mother said.

The girl's mother admitted that, in hindsight, the entire situation


looked odd.

"I should have been more assertive," she said.

The mother said she notified police in October of the alleged sexual
abuse. "Now I'm like, what did I put my daughter through."

Bujak, who could not be reached for comment Thursday, lives in a


home attached to the church building. In a message on the church's
Web site, Bujak describes the church as one that "cares about the
lives of people."

Information on the Web site describes the church as fundamental


and grounded in the Baptist tradition, but independent and
unaffiliated with any particular denomination.

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Riley Barrett, whose father was formerly a missionary with First


Missionary Baptist Church, described Bujak as an upstanding man
who loved his family.

"He definitely loves his kids and he's a loving father, and he
wouldn't do anything to hurt children," said Barrett, 18.

Barrett, who was unaware of the charges, said Bujak was well-liked
among children at a week-long Bible camp he attended in the
summers.

"He's probably one of the most popular people with the kids,"
Barrett said.

Debbie Campbell, who lives next door to the church on Silver


Street, said she knew the family and was shocked by the situation.

"We know the kids, the wife, everyone," she said. "It is a nice
family."

McHenry County State's Attorney Louis Bianchi declined to


comment on the charges against Bujak.

Bujak posted $500 of a $5,000 bond and was released, police said.
He is scheduled to appear in court at 9 a.m. June 16 in Elgin.

Staff writers Rob Phillips and Brenda Schory contributed to this


report.

By JOCELYN ALLISON
jallison@nwherald.com
http://www.nwherald.com/print/286074392538110.php

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05-12-2006 06:35 PM

chitownbrian I went to the churches web site at: www.fmbc.net to see what it
Senior Member says about beating little girls with pieces of wood, but found no
information about that. I sent Pastor/Former Cop/Defendant Daryl
Registered: Nov 2004 Bujak an e-mail asking him about it also.
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 103
His e-mail is: darylbujak@msn.com

Shoot him an e-mail, find out what PD he used to work for....

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Mack What a sadistic bastard. I bet ten to one that he molested the girl
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I was a bit surprised by the allegations against the pastor, until


I read the following:

quote:

Originally posted by chitownbrian


he was a former police officer and had worked
Registered: Jul 2003 with "tons of molested teens."
Location: Chicago, Illinois
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05-12-2006 06:58 PM

chitownbrian I guess Pastor Pervert got upset with all the visitors to his churches
Senior Member website, because he blocked access to it today. His e-mail address
still seems to work though. Today being Sunday, I hope his flock is
Registered: Nov 2004 beating his ass with a stick to make him repent for his sins.
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 103
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His website is back up and his email is working.

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05-14-2006 06:15 AM

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quote:

Originally posted by chitownbrian


Registered: Oct 2006 I guess Pastor Pervert got upset with all the
Location: Seattle
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visitors to his churches website, because he
blocked access to it today. His e-mail address still
seems to work though. Today being Sunday, I
hope his flock is beating his ass with a stick to
make him repent for his sins.

Have you ever judged someone because of what someone else said
and later found out that it was not true? It really makes ya feel a

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little stupid for not doing your homework.


DARYL BUJAK'S MOTHER!
'Ive about had it with all you idiots who judge before the truth is
even known.
Everyone take the word of a mom who allowed her husband to
molest her child. Then she turns around and says the PASTOR
MADE ME DO IT! what a joke. why isnt she in Jail for allowing this
in front of her stupid nose. I know one thing. If my kid told me they
were molested by their step father I would not be running to my
Pastor. Id be taking her to the doctor. Then Id go to the police..
That is what normal people do. SHe is the accuser of all this. Think
of that for a minute. Would you run your child to the Pastor if your
child told you she was molested by her step father?

Heidi Magdalena Bujak


Daryl Bujak's Mother!
dagnabbit anyway.

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chitownbrian quote:
Senior Member
ELGIN –" A 13-year-old Richmond girl who
Registered: Nov 2004 accused a male relative of sexual abuse was
Location: Chicago area beaten weekly for more than a month by an Elgin
Posts: 103 pastor who was counseling her about the alleged
sexual abuse, police said Thursday."

That's a quote from the newspaper. They are quoting the Po-leece
in Elgin, IL. You are quick to jump on this website and say we are
lying about your son. Did you go to the Elgin PD and make a similar
claim against them? According to the paper, your son, the accused,
is a former cop. True or false? Just curious. His former occupation is
what lead me to believe he is guilty as charged. Most cops I have
met have been thieves, liars and sexual predators. If your son is
truely innocent, my heart goes out to him. There just seems to be a
big segment of police officers or religious types involved in sexual
abuse cases, and your son apparently falls into both lists!

If your sons case is being heard in McHenry County, IL, then I


really do have pity on him! There is no more corrupt states
attorneys office or judicial system within the state of IL. Good luck!
I really mean that, there are evil sick bastards within the judiciary
of McHenry County.

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10-24-2006 11:24 PM

GC Marciano Dear Heidi Magdalena Bujak;


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I can't help but feel sympathy for you for two primary reasons:

1) You spent many years raising your son, Daryl, only to have
him throw his life away by becoming a cop - a job that requires
no education, skill, talent or morals. It must have been crushing
when he made the announcement to you. He later made a
career change from cop to preacher, another con-artist "career".
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois 2) After finally learning to deal with the shame of knowing your
Posts: 9967 son was a worthless parasite who made a career of mooching
from that taxpayers that he screwed over on a daily basis and
then as a preacher who lived off of the hard-earned money
collected from his brainwashed followers, you learned that he
was under arrest for beating a yound girl - a victim of sexual
abuse.

Boy that's rough. With any luck your son will be sentenced to
many years in a secure prison where he can obtain a productive
job in prison industries, giving him something to do between
the daily ass-rapings and vicious beatings that he (as a former
cop) is certain to receive.

I hope he enjoys it as much as the young victim of sexual abuse


enjoyed the weekly beating at the hand of your son Daryl.

Sincerely,
- A man who feels your pain.

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Navigatr1 Welcome to the website Heidi Magdalena. You bring up an excellent


Extended Sabatical point about why didn't the mother go to the police rather than to
your son the pastor. According to the article, her daughter had a
habit of lying, and she felt her daughter might be lying about this.
So she took her daughter to your son for counseling.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: What type of counseling did she receive from your son, a former
Posts: 31403 police officer? She got spankings with a piece of wood that left
marks and welts on her. By spanking her so hard to leave marks
and welts, your son committed a crime of child abuse. Moreover, he
had an obligation being a former sworn officer of the law to report
an allegations of sex abuse to authorites. It is even possible that
your son could be considered an accomplice to the fact by not
reporting the alleged sexual abuse and allowing it to continue.
Especially when he was physically abusing the child himself as a
form of counseling.

Trained counselors do not abuse children or anyone they are


counseling for that matter by giving them spankings with a board.

All we have to go on at this point is the information contained in the


article which may or may not be accurate. The media has a
tendancy to distort the truth for sensationalism. However, it is a
starting point in investigating the matter.

quote:

Bujak also told Resh that he should spank the girl, the
girl's mother said. Resh, 33, of 26445 W. Route 134,
Apt. 6, Ingleside, was charged Monday with five counts
of predatory criminal sexual assault of a child. Resh is a
former member of the Richmond Plan Commission.

"It would be nothing for [Bujak] to spank her 30 or 40


times at one sitting," the mother said. "Matt did the
same thing. He would spank her like 100 times at one
sitting."

Bujak would spank the girl once a week and Resh


would spank her more often, the mother said.

Why would your son tell Resh that he should also spank the girl?
Did your son feel the girl was lying, and that spanking would
somehow bring the truth out? Since both were spanking the girl,
there could be some question as to who left the welts. However, 30
to 40 times is a lot of spanks at one sitting with a board. I don't
know of any parent, who in their right mind, would allow their child

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to be spanked by their pastor.

The article later on states that the girls mother reported the alleged
sexual abuse to the police. She reported it after she came to her
senses, and realized that her daughter was now being physically
abused too. Hopefully the police will get to the bottom of things in
their investigation. Do you think that the police should spank your
son with a board in order to get him to tell the truth just like he
spanked that girl?

--Navigatr1

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liberranter Originally posted by Navigatr1


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I don't know of any parent, who in their right mind,
would allow their child to be spanked by their pastor.

I don't know of any pastor who is a real man of God who would
even consider the idea of spanking a child with a board. Given
Bujak's history (i.e., starting out his adult life as a cop), I would
be skeptical, at best, of his credentials or sincerity as a man of
the cloth. However, I know of several pastors who in their
previous lives were drug addicts, alcoholics, or gangbangers so
I suppose it's possible for a cop to make a miraculously
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
successful life change as well. Highly unlikely, but still vaguely
Posts: 5865 possible.

The article later on states that the girls mother reported


the alleged sexual abuse to the police. She reported it
after she came to her senses, and realized that her
daughter was now being physically abused too.

I agree that this girl's mother is just as responsible as Bujak for

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this situation. In fact, this weak-willed idiot should face criminal


charges of child endangerment as well (sterilization wouldn't be
a bad idea either). What woman with a functioning brain stem
allows someone to spank her child with a board unless she's
inclined to such violence herself?

Hopefully the police will get to the bottom of things in


their investigation.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

Do you think that the police should spank your son with a
board in order to get him to tell the truth just like he
spanked that girl?

While there is certainly a measure of justice to that approach,


Bujak appears to have all the markings of a cult leader who
thinks himself to be above the laws of either God or human
decency (ref. Jim Jones, Werner Erhardt, and L. Ron Hubbard,
to name just three, none of whom ever hestitated to use
physical violence against their followers as a means of control
or to instill their message). The combination of messianic
arrogance, mixed with the predisposition toward violence, no
doubt stemming from his years as a cop certainly makes Bujak
one dangerous individual, particularly where children are
concerned.

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pat8942 Re: MOLESTER?


Member
quote:

Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena


Registered: Oct 2006 Have you ever judged someone because of what
Location: Deming,NM someone else said and later found out that it was
Posts: 59
not true? It really makes ya feel a little stupid for
not doing your homework.

I'll bet you'll feel a lot of stupid when he's found guilty.

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Heidi Magdalena quote:


Junior Member
Originally posted by liberranter
Originally posted by Navigatr1

I don't know of any parent, who in their right


Registered: Oct 2006
Location: Seattle mind, would allow their child to be spanked by
Posts: 12 their pastor.

I don't know of any pastor who is a real man of


God who would even consider the idea of
spanking a child with a board. Given Bujak's
history (i.e., starting out his adult life as a cop), I
would be skeptical, at best, of his credentials or
sincerity as a man of the cloth. However, I know
of several pastors who in their previous lives
were drug addicts, alcoholics, or gangbangers so
I suppose it's possible for a cop to make a
miraculously successful life change as well.
Highly unlikely, but still vaguely possible.

The article later on states that the girls mother


reported the alleged sexual abuse to the police.
She reported it after she came to her senses, and
realized that her daughter was now being
physically abused too.

I agree that this girl's mother is just as

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responsible as Bujak for this situation. In fact,


this weak-willed idiot should face criminal
charges of child endangerment as well
(sterilization wouldn't be a bad idea either). What
woman with a functioning brain stem allows
someone to spank her child with a board unless
she's inclined to such violence herself?

Hopefully the police will get to the bottom of


things in their investigation.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that to


happen.

Do you think that the police should spank your


son with a board in order to get him to tell the
truth just like he spanked that girl?

While there is certainly a measure of justice to


that approach, Bujak appears to have all the
markings of a cult leader who thinks himself to be
above the laws of either God or human decency
(ref. Jim Jones, Werner Erhardt, and L. Ron
Hubbard, to name just three, none of whom ever
hestitated to use physical violence against their
followers as a means of control or to instill their
message). The combination of messianic
arrogance, mixed with the predisposition toward
violence, no doubt stemming from his years as a
cop certainly makes Bujak one dangerous
individual, particularly where children are
concerned.

I do not know of any one who would allow a pastor to spank a child
either. I also do not know of a pastor who would spank a child and
call it council.
The allegations of spanking by the pastor is just what they ARE,
allegations.

You are getting all riled up over some woman's allegations of which
you said yourself is a weak-willed idiot does not havea
functioning brain stemandshould face criminal charges.

What is wrong with a person starting out adult life wanting to be a


policeman? ie (cop)
I think most young people who want to live a good life desire to go
in that field.
I know there are bad police out there but I for one happen to
respect them. It is a horrible world out there being a policeman.
They always have to watch their back and Im a little ol granny now.
I can say what I want after 50. In my life time the COP HATERS are

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usually CRIMINALS! Those who talk bad of the police talk bad of
justice with crooked wooden nickles in their pocket.

You sound like a well informed person. You sould like you read and
belive everything you read too. Let me ask you a question.

How can you get so hot, angry, hostile over what a person says
who does not have a functioning brain stem?

I am over 50. I can say what I want now. I earned this. It would
seem to me you have less of a brain stem as her since you believe
a brainstemless person over a man who wanted to be a policeman
and committed his life to serve God. Do you know how many
members he has in his church? He works for less than minimum
wage! He is not in it for money, He sure is not in it for POWER, not
enough members. lol
AND he sure is not in it for GLORY!
Think of that. and please read my other posts.

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10-25-2006 04:37 PM

GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena
It is a horrible world out there being a
policeman.

Very true, for several reasons:

• A policeman is always looking over his shoulder, wondering if


Registered: Jul 2003 somebody that he has fucked over is out looking for payback.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
• A policeman must live with overwhelming feelings of
worthlessness and guilt, knowing that he is nothing but a social
menace who is detested by most working-class citizens.

• A policeman is always running from the shadows, cowering


like a paranoid child, knowing that someday true justice will be
served against him for his crimes against the people he "swore"
to serve and protect.

Yes, you are right. It's a horrible world out there being a
policeman.

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pat8942 quote:
Member
In my life time the COP HATERS are usually
CRIMINALS! Those who talk bad of the police talk
bad of justice with crooked wooden nickles in
Registered: Oct 2006 their pocket.
Location: Deming,NM
Posts: 59

I'm not a criminal and I despise the Stosstruppen (Police).

They are the criminals.

Pull your head out of the sand.

I'm over 50 also and I have seen quite a bit in my life the cops of
old were peace keepers but that's not the case today now it's all
about power and most of them are as crooked as a dogs hind leg.

That serving God stuff don't cut any ice with me.

Look at how many of them are baby rapers

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10-25-2006 06:18 PM

Heidi Magdalena Police and Real Men


Junior Member
quote:

Originally posted by GC505


Registered: Oct 2006 Dear Heidi Magdalena Bujak;
Location: Seattle
Posts: 12
I can't help but feel sympathy for you for two
primary reasons:

1) You spent many years raising your son, Daryl,


only to have him throw his life away by becoming
a cop - a job that requires no education, skill,
talent or morals. It must have been crushing
when he made the announcement to you. He later
made a career change from cop to preacher,
another con-artist "career".

2) After finally learning to deal with the shame of


knowing your son was a worthless parasite who
made a career of mooching from that taxpayers
that he screwed over on a daily basis and then as
a preacher who lived off of the hard-earned
money collected from his brainwashed followers,
you learned that he was under arrest for beating
a yound girl - a victim of sexual abuse.

Boy that's rough. With any luck your son will be


sentenced to many years in a secure prison where
he can obtain a productive job in prison
industries, giving him something to do between
the daily ass-rapings and vicious beatings that he
(as a former cop) is certain to receive.

I hope he enjoys it as much as the young victim


of sexual abuse enjoyed the weekly beating at the
hand of your son Daryl.

Sincerely,

- A man who feels your pain.

Sincerely,
- A man who feels your pain.

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I never met a [B]MAN


like you.

Real men do not hate those that stand for good.

There are a whole lot more good police than bad ones. There are a
whole lot more good preachers than bad ones.

A real man does not belittle a granny of 9 either. They respect old
ladies.

I have heard of rap music. Oh yes, I have, but I never heard of rap
music coming from the arsh, unless of course you are talking about
hot air of which it seems to me you, Mr. Man, are full of---- the rap
and all.

People who talk bad about Police are criminals or anti justice.
There are bad apples wherever you look in all walks of life. Mr. Man
you are very sick. If you keep eating bad apples all the time you
will only pick rotten ones to enjoy and forget about the fabulous
sweetness of the Delicious.

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pat8942 Re: Police and Real Men


Member
quote:

Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena


Registered: Oct 2006 Sincerely,
Location: Deming,NM - A man who feels your pain.
Posts: 59

I never met a MAN


like you.

Real men do not hate those that stand for good.

There are a whole lot more good police than bad


ones. There are a whole lot more good preachers
than bad ones.

A real man does not belittle a granny of 9 either.


They respect old ladies.

I have heard of rap music. Oh yes, I have, but I


never heard of rap music coming from the arsh,

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unless of course you are talking about hot air of


which it seems to me you, Mr. Man, are full of----
the rap and all.

People who talk bad about Police are criminals or


anti justice.
There are bad apples wherever you look in all
walks of life. Mr. Man you are very sick. If you
keep eating bad apples all the time you will only
pick rotten ones to enjoy and forget about the
fabulous sweetness of the Delicious.

Methinks thou doest protest too much

How come I got spit on when I returned from Viet Nam, I guess I
didn't stand for good. Lay off the granny cop out I'm old too

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GC Marciano She loves cops.


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Except the ones that arrested her son for brutally beating a
victim of sexual abuse.

Makes a lot of sense...

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pat8942 quote:
Member
Originally posted by GC505
She loves cops.

Registered: Oct 2006 Except the ones that arrested her son for brutally
Location: Deming,NM beating a victim of sexual abuse.
Posts: 59
Makes a lot of sense...

With any luck she will have an encounter with the Gestapo and
have her head slammed in to the hood of a car , with anyluck it will
knock some sense into her granny backside

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Heidi Magdalena Re: Re: Police and Real Men


Junior Member
quote:

Originally posted by pat8942


Registered: Oct 2006 Methinks thou doest protest too much
Location: Seattle
Posts: 12 How come I got spit on when I returned from Viet
Nam, I guess I didn't stand for good. Lay off the
granny cop out I'm old too

Please re-read the post 3 times, turn around, and ask yourself what
being spit on after Nam has to do with this?

Me thinketh thou hath misplaced anger. Furthermore since you are


old too by now you should know to respect a woman. Dont you
know by now not to argue with them yet?

Being spit on has nothing to do with anything on the subject.

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pat8942 Re: Police and Real Men


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quote:

Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena


Registered: Oct 2006 Sincerely,
Location: Deming,NM - A man who feels your pain.
Posts: 59

I never met a MAN


like you.

Real men do not hate those that stand for good.

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There are a whole lot more good police than bad


ones. There are a whole lot more good preachers
than bad ones.

A real man does not belittle a granny of 9 either.


They respect old ladies.

I have heard of rap music. Oh yes, I have, but I


never heard of rap music coming from the arsh,
unless of course you are talking about hot air of
which it seems to me you, Mr. Man, are full of----
the rap and all.

People who talk bad about Police are criminals or


anti justice.
There are bad apples wherever you look in all
walks of life. Mr. Man you are very sick. If you
keep eating bad apples all the time you will only
pick rotten ones to enjoy and forget about the
fabulous sweetness of the Delicious.

I can see you're not very bright because you come up with some
really lame metaphors

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Member
quote:

Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena


Registered: Oct 2006 Please re-read the post 3 times, turn around, and
Location: Deming,NM ask yourself what being spit on after Nam has to
Posts: 59
do with this?

Me thinketh thou hath misplaced anger.


Furthermore since you are old too by now you
should know to respect a woman. Dont you know
by now not to argue with them yet?

Being spit on has nothing to do with anything on


the subject.

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You must be brain dead I was making a point These were your
words "Real men do not hate those that stand for good."
Wake up Granny
You are about right there is no point in arguing with an idiot male
or female and you most certainly are an idiot.
You must be some kind of a hybrid suidae artiodactyla since you
love them so much.
Figure that word out Einstien. I guess I should said Granny Einstien

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GC Marciano Re: Re: Re: Police and Real Men


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quote:

Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena


Furthermore since you are old too by now you
should know to respect a woman. Dont you
know by now not to argue with them yet?

Registered: Jul 2003


Location: Chicago, Illinois You are so right. I will no longer argue with old women as you
Posts: 9967 may get agitated, fall, and break a hip.

I will change my tune and agree with you: The cops are the
good guys and they serve and protect us. -- Case in point: They
arrested and prosecuted your criminal son Daryl after he was
caught viciously and repeatedly beating a young vicim of sexual
abuse.

What a big courageous man... beating on a little pre-teen girl


who can't defend herself. I agree with Mack's opinion; he
probably sexually abused her as well.

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Court

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10-25-2006 11:56 PM

Mack Mother Mary:


Assistant Moderator
Please don't accuse me of disrespecting the elderly (and incidentally
I question whether someone age 50 can be called elderly
nowadays, at least in the US).

I have mucho respect for my elders, not least because I expect to


be one myself someday.

That said, your position is illogical. No offense. Just take a look


Registered: Jul 2003
Location: around this site- we have more than ample documentation to
Posts: 5215 establish the fact that the ranks of police officers is riddled through
and through with so-called "bad apples".

The analogy turns the truth on its head: in the field of policework,
the good apple is the rarity, not the bad apple.

It is my opinion that any priest or pastor who beats a pubescent girl


to excess is, to some degree or another, indulging in and fulfilling a
sexual fantasy. It is also my opinion that anyone who does so is
likely to move the situation from the realm of the fantasy to the
realm of the real. Though I don't know your son, I would not be
surprised if he sexually molested the victim. I would be even less
suprised if he used the pain he inflicted on the girl as fuel for his
own self-flagellation. But then that's just my opinion- I'm no expert.

I've only read scores, (though not thousands), of newspaper


articles describing the deviant sexual habits of cops and former
cops.

One last point, addressed to everyone in general: when you quote a


previous post, there's no need (and indeed it is often
counterproductive) to quote the ENTIRE post: cut it down to only
that part to which you are replying.

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liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena

You are getting all riled up over some


woman's allegations of which you said
yourself is a weak-willed idiot does not have a
functioning brain stemand should face
criminal charges ....yada yada yada

Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 Dearest Heidi:

It's obvious from the utter incoherence of your rant that you are
beyond the stage of "distraught mother", which, given the sheer
odiousness of your son's circumstances, is somewhat
understandable.

Were I not the patient and understanding sort of guy that I am,
I would probably by now be thinking to myself, maybe even out
loud:

"Man, no wonder Daryl Bujak turned out to be a lying, violent


two-time loser who molests proto-adolescent children. If I had a
mother as neurotic and delusional as his, I'd probably have
turned out like him too, or probably worse. Maybe a nice long
stretch in the slammer is just the vacation from her that he
needs."

Rest assured, though: given my empathetic and understanding


nature, I would never even think such a thing, let alone say it
out loud.

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the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

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Heidi Magdalena Re: Re: Re: Re: Police and Real Men
Junior Member
quote:

Originally posted by pat8942


Registered: Oct 2006 You must be brain dead I was making a point
Location: Seattle These were your words "Real men do not hate
Posts: 12 those that stand for good."
Wake up Granny
You are about right there is no point in arguing
with an idiot male or female and you most
certainly are an idiot.
You must be some kind of a hybrid suidae
artiodactyla since you love them so much.
Figure that word out Einstien. I guess I should
said Granny Einstien

Real men or women do not spit on those that served our country. It
still has nothing to do with the subject which is "honoring the police
and standing for justice."
Repeating again.
1. "Real men do not hate those that stand for good." and
correctly said by you.
2. There is no point in arguing with an idiot
3. Name calling is not constructive in good conversation.
4. I did not write comments in here to argue.

The name calling from your heart is your way of feeling better
about yourself. Putting others down gives you power. I will not fall
into it with you, Pat. Get a life other than mocking others, name
calling, bashing and ridicule.
It appears to me that is all you do in your posts.

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Heidi Magdalena distraught mother... NOT..


Junior Member
quote:

Originally posted by liberranter


Registered: Oct 2006 Dearest Heidi:
Location: Seattle
Posts: 12 It's obvious from the utter incoherence of your
rant that you are beyond the stage of "distraught
mother", which, given the sheer odiousness of
your son's circumstances, is somewhat
understandable.

Were I not the patient and understanding sort of


guy that I am, I would probably by now be
thinking to myself, maybe even out loud:

"Man, no wonder Daryl Bujak turned out to be a


lying, violent two-time loser who molests proto-
adolescent children. If I had a mother as neurotic
and delusional as his, I'd probably have turned
out like him too, or probably worse. Maybe a nice
long stretch in the slammer is just the vacation
from her that he needs."

Rest assured, though: given my empathetic and


understanding nature, I would never even think
such a thing, let alone say it out loud.

I was distraught when I first heard of this incident, but I am not


now. A little research into past lives does a lot of good.
I have not said one thing that makes me appear to be lying,
violent, a loser, neurotic or delusional.

, what I said to you was this:


Since you think the mother is brain dead, has no brain stem
yadayada,
why do you believe her in the first place with her misplaced
accusations?

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You made her sound as though she is "not all there." Do you
usually believe people that are "not all there?"
In essence, that is what I said. Why am I called delusionsal and
neurotic for saying that?

Is this a name calling, bashing site?

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Heidi Magdalena the good apple is the rarity, not the bad apple.
Junior Member
Iagree and futhermore it is true in all walks of life. Sad huh?

It is my opinion that any priest or pastor who beats a pubescent girl


to excess is, to some degree or another, indulging in and fulfilling a
Registered: Oct 2006
Location: Seattle sexual fantasy. Iagree It is also my opinion that anyone who does
Posts: 12 so is likely to move the situation from the realm of the fantasy to
the realm of the real. Iagree. He did not do this. It is an
accusation unfounded and untrue. He is not guilty of the
crime in which he is charged. End of Story. Though I don't
know your son, I would not be surprised if he sexually molested the
victim. I would be even less suprised if he used the pain he inflicted
on the girl as fuel for his own self-flagellation. But then that's just
my opinion- I'm no expert.

Iagree and futhermore it is true in all walks of life. Sad huh?

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pat8942 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Police and Real Men
Member

[QUOTE][i]
There is no point in arguing with an idiot[/B]
I wasn't calling you a name I was stating an observation
Registered: Oct 2006
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Heidi Magdalena Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Police and Real Men
Junior Member

I wasn't calling you a name I was stating an observation

Registered: Oct 2006 LOL ... Do you think you can turn your observational binoculars
Location: Seattle around to where you are looking thru the little lens instead of the
Posts: 12 big ones? LOL

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GC Marciano After reading the mindless stupidity and droning nonsense that
Copwatcher Extraordinaire Heiny spews in her posts, it's becoming increasingly clear why
her kid turned out to be a worthless, child abusing dickhead.

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liberranter Spot on, GC!


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I'd recommend following Confucius's advice (that the only
person who tries to reason with a moron is an even bigger
moron) and close out this thread. Why waste server space on
giving Heidi and her son any more undeserved attention?

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10-26-2006 03:20 PM

pat8942 quote:
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Originally posted by liberranter
Spot on, GC!

Registered: Oct 2006 Why waste server space on giving Heidi and her
Location: Deming,NM son any more undeserved attention?
Posts: 59

I agree
I'm not going to waste any more time responding to her

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10-26-2006 04:13 PM

OldManSenile Re: MOLESTER?


Member

Ok, I'll just start from the beginning and work my way down.
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Missouri
Posts: 88 quote:

Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena


'Ive about had it with all you idiots who judge
before the truth is even known.
Everyone take the word of a mom who allowed
her husband to molest her child. Then she turns
around and says the PASTOR MADE ME DO IT!
Heidi Magdalena Bujak
Daryl Bujak's Mother!
dagnabbit anyway.

Ok, so you come here, call us idiots and five posts later you get
your panties in a bunch because we call you a idiot. Might want to
get your priorities straight lady.

quote:

Heidi Mag
There are a whole lot more good police than bad
ones. There are a whole lot more good preachers
than bad ones.
A real man does not belittle a granny of 9 either.
They respect old ladies.
People who talk bad about Police are criminals or
anti justice.

If you want respect, you earn it. You sure in the hell don't earn it
comming here calling us idiots then bitching when we return the
favor. Its called equil lib, your generation burnt thier bra'a and
panties wanting to be treated equal, now you got to deal with it.

I'm not a criminal, or anti-justice. What I do have a problem with


is, the administration that over sees police forces. We don't hate
cops, we are tired of cops not being held to the same standard as
everyone else.

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quote:

Heidi Mag
Real men or women do not spit on those that
served our country. It still has nothing to do with
the subject which is "honoring the police and
standing for justice."
Repeating again.
1. "Real men do not hate those that stand for
good." and
correctly said by you.
2. There is no point in arguing with an idiot
3. Name calling is not constructive in good
conversation.
4. I did not write comments in here to argue.

The name calling from your heart is your way of


feeling better about yourself. Putting others down
gives you power. I will not fall into it with you,
Pat. Get a life other than mocking others, name
calling, bashing and ridicule.
It appears to me that is all you do in your posts.

Read my answer to your first quote.

quote:

Heidi Mag
Is this a name calling, bashing site?

Panties are still in a bunch. Not sure which crack sucked them up,
but you might want to pull them loose.

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GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena
Real men do not hate those that stand for
good.

Very true. But in this case that statement is irrelevent, as it


doesn't appear that your son Daryl (a former cop and a
preacher) does not stand for good.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
If he did, he would not viciously beat a young victim of sexual
abuse with wooden boards.

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10-26-2006 05:31 PM

Navigatr1 Heidi Magdalena wrote:


Extended Sabatical
quote:

Registered: Jul 2003 In my life time the COP HATERS are usually
Location: CRIMINALS! Those who talk bad of the police talk bad
Posts: 31403 of justice with crooked wooden nickles in their pocket.

Interesting how you come here telling us that your son allegedly
committed this crime, and then tell us that we are cop haters and
criminals. Wouldn't that be alleged cop haters and alleged
criminals by your logic? We are not cop haters; although, there are
some who do hate them because of how they were treated by the
cops. Not all here have criminal records either.

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I agree with you that your son has allegedly committed this crime.
We won't know until after the investigation is done, and any
charges are filed. Even if charges aren't filed, it still doesn't mean
that he did not commit the crime. It just means that there wasn't
enough evidence for the prosecutor to file charges.

--Navigatr1

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GC Marciano quote:
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Originally posted by Navigatr1
I agree with you that your son has allegedly
committed this crime. We won't know until
after the investigation is done, and any
charges are filed. Even if charges aren't filed,
it still doesn't mean that he did not commit
the crime. It just means that there wasn't
enough evidence for the prosecutor to file
Registered: Jul 2003 charges.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967

Charges have been filed against him.

quote:

Quote from Media Article:


Bujak posted $500 of a $5,000 bond and was
released, police said. He is scheduled to
appear in court at 9 a.m. June 16 in Elgin.

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10-26-2006 11:22 PM

chitownbrian Heidi:
Senior Member
I am at a loss to figure you out. You claim that your son is totally
Registered: Nov 2004 innocent of the crimes which he has been charged with. Fine, I can
Location: Chicago area relate to that, but then in the next breath, you are singing the high
Posts: 103 praises of cops!

Well who the hell arrested and falsely charged and fabricated the
evidence against your son if it wasn't the cops?!?! Pick your side
woman, someone in the game is a lying, criminal piece of s***.
Who is it, your son or the cops? I think it is time you wake up and
realize that many, many cops are criminals, and will stop at nothing
to further their career, and arresting and charging the innocent are
certainly not outside the daily activity of any given police
deparment, let alone a crime infested dump commonly refered to as
the Elgin Police Department.

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Navigatr1 GC505 wrote:


Extended Sabatical
quote:

Registered: Jul 2003 Charges have been filed against him.


Location:
Posts: 31403

You are correct. I noticed that after I posted and read the article
again. I got busy posting in another area afterwards, and wasn't
able to get back to this thread.

Since charges have been filed against him, it's a matter of waiting
for the trial date to see if he is convicted of those charges or pleas
down to lessor charges. In the meantime, it is still alleged that he
committed this crime of child abuse.

GC505, is there a court website or police website that shows the


charges against him? I wasn't able to find a court website for
McHenry County. It would be nice to post that information if it was
available. Afterall, it is merely public information.

--Navigatr1

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


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and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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Heidi Magdalena "It would be nice to post that information if it was available. "
Junior Member
Yes it is available.

Yes, post the charge.


Registered: Oct 2006
Location: Seattle
The charge is a misdemeaner.
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Heidi Magdalena http://www.unitedforjustice.com/ministerbeat.htm


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The charge is a misdemeaner battery.

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GC Marciano You try to minimize the act of beating a 13 year-old victim of


Copwatcher Extraordinaire sexual abuse by saying it's just a misdemeanor battery?

You are one sick woman.

I think I should begin lobbying to have the charges enhanced to


a class 4 felony. It is legally appropriate, since the crime
occured on multiple occasions.

I think Im gonna pay a visit to Mr. Bianchi's office.


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Heidi Magdalena quote:


Junior Member
Originally posted by GC505
You try to minimize the act of beating a 13 year-
old victim of sexual abuse by saying it's just a
Registered: Oct 2006 misdemeanor battery?
Location: Seattle
Posts: 12

1. He never beat the girl. It is alledged, by the police of what


they heard from a mother, caught defending her husband,
the girls step father, Mr Resh.

2.The article also states that BOTH parents brought her to


Bujak.

Can you imagine? Please consider this for a moment.

The man, Mr. Resh, her step father, the molestor, brought
her to Mr. Bujak.

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I ask myself, if I were a molestor, would I have taken her to


someone to get to the bottom of it?

It sure would not be the police. It sure would not be.

The parents were doing the covering.

The whole has not been told. It is not good to judge a matter
until all the facts are in and thus far no facts have been even
established or presented.

the only thing established is hearsay, and things alledged by


the mother.

3.Why do the articles say, " A relative molested her?"


It was not a RELATIVE at all. It was her step father living in
the home married to her mother. The articles make it sound
as if the molestor was some uncle or distant relative. Mr
Resh is not related to her by blood at all. He is not a relative.

I am not minimizing this if in fact Mr. Bujak did what the


charge states.
If he did what the charge states, he deserves the
punishment for the crime.

[B]I DID NOT MAKE THE LAW. IF BATTERY IS A


MISDEAMNER.HOW IN THE HECK AM I MINIMIZING?
dagnabbit it anyway. Stop adding words to what I say or
rearranging them to fit your judgement on me. Thanks ..
forgoodness sakes.. for crying out loud and horsefeathers.

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pat8942 quote:
Member
Originally posted by GC505
I think Im gonna pay a visit to Mr. Bianchi's
office.
Registered: Oct 2006
Location: Deming,NM
Posts: 59

You really got her going now

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GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena
He never beat the girl

...And when Jeffrey Dahmer was caught with human bodies in


his home and human heads in his freezer, his mother loudly
proclaimed his innocence.
Registered: Jul 2003 We've heard it all before... A former cop gets busted for beating
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
a child, and of course he didn't do it. Just ask his mother.

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JmE quote:
Senior Member
Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena
<cut>
What is wrong with a person starting out adult
Registered: Aug 2005 life wanting to be a policeman? ie (cop)
Location: Directly behind you
Posts: 861

Because there are higher professions to which to aspire than that of


'legal' thug.

quote:

I think most young people who want to live a


good life desire to go in that field.

Quite a gratuitous assertion you have made. I completely disagree.


For an explaination, please see my first answer.

quote:

I know there are bad police out there but I for


one happen to respect them. It is a horrible world
out there being a policeman. They always have to
watch their back

They accept the pay so they should accept the risks without all the
squealing and whining. We do not owe them jack!
Yes, they have to watch their back because in general, they are
thugs, IMHO. Indeed, they should watch their back because if they
come up against a 'stand up guy' and law abiding citizen, they are
in for a world of pain both during their thuggery and later in court.

quote:

and Im a little ol granny now. I can say what I


want after 50.

No ma'am, you can say what you want, no matter how absurd,
because you possess the inalienable right to free speech. You do
not 'earn' it with age or experience, it is a right of all humans that
can not be taken nor given away (but it can be loaned).

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quote:

an In my life time the COP HATERS are usually


CRIMINALS! Those who talk bad of the police talk
bad of justice with crooked wooden nickles in
their pocket.

Once again, that is your opinion. I have acutally found the opposite
to be true (MY opinion). Most of the criminals I have met and
known 'suck up' to the swine to keep out of trouble. The rest of us
law abiding and free people speak our minds and call thugs thugs;
badge or not.
BTW: If you want to check my pockets for 'wood', just let me know.

quote:

<cut>
He works for less than minimum wage! He is not
in it for money, He sure is not in it for POWER, not
enough members. lol
AND he sure is not in it for GLORY!
<cut>

I am a pastor as well and I make NOTHING. So what? We aren't


supposed to be in it for the money, right. So, your ex-swine of a
son makes less than minimum wage. He chose the job at the pay
just as I have (I work for free). What he earns has nothing to do
with it!

With all that stated; he is innocent until proven guilty. If he is


innocent, I hope his court battle is short and he is exonerated.
However, I still can't stand him because he was once in LE AND
(judging by your posts) does not see anything wrong with being a
'legal' thug swine.

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Coimhead fearg fhear na foighde ~ (Beware the anger of a
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<Insert stupid/oppressive swine comment here. It doesn't matter as it all is the
same BS.> -- Typical LE Copscum
To the point, I hate LE. Clear enough? -- JmE

I respectfully dissent without further mooting cum hoc ergo propter hoc
distinction of inalienable rights based upon genotype of any H. s. sapiens. --
JmE, 'Heinz 57'

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"G_d, I know, will provide," sighed one disconsolate Jew. "I only wish He would
provide until He provides."
There is nothing new under the Sun.

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JmE Re: MOLESTER?


Senior Member
quote:

Originally posted by Heidi Magdalena


Registered: Aug 2005 <cut>
Location: Directly behind you I know one thing. If my kid told me they were
Posts: 861
molested by their step father I would not be
running to my Pastor. Id be taking her to the
doctor. Then Id go to the police.. That is what
normal people do. SHe is the accuser of all this.
Think of that for a minute. Would you run your
child to the Pastor if your child told you she was
molested by her step father?
<cut>

I do not know about the laws in your state, but in mine, we pastors
are required by law to report any evidence or allegations of abuse.

I am sure the ex-swine was aware of this or at least should have


been aware of this as a pastor.

You seem to want to lay all the blame at the feet of the mother and
none at the feet of your lil ex-oinker.

Why did your son not report it, eh?

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Then, Sir, we will give them the bayonet! -- General Thomas
"Stonewall" Jackson
Coimhead fearg fhear na foighde ~ (Beware the anger of a
patient man) - Irish/Gaelic phrase
<Insert stupid/oppressive swine comment here. It doesn't matter as it all is the
same BS.> -- Typical LE Copscum
To the point, I hate LE. Clear enough? -- JmE

I respectfully dissent without further mooting cum hoc ergo propter hoc
distinction of inalienable rights based upon genotype of any H. s. sapiens. --
JmE, 'Heinz 57'

Inspiration & Hope:


"G_d, I know, will provide," sighed one disconsolate Jew. "I only wish He would
provide until He provides."
There is nothing new under the Sun.

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GC Marciano Re: Re: MOLESTER?


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
quote:

Originally posted by JmE


I do not know about the laws in your state,
but in mine, we pastors are required by law to
report any evidence or allegations of abuse.

Registered: Jul 2003


Location: Chicago, Illinois This law exists in Illinois also, and is another law this child-
Posts: 9967 abusing dickhead violated.

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10-28-2006 02:21 PM

liberranter Re: Re: Re: MOLESTER?


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quote:

Originally posted by GC505


This law exists in Illinois also, and is another
law this child-abusing dickhead violated.

Registered: Jun 2005 Not that he probably would have respected/followed it even if
Location: Tucson, AZ he HAD known about it.

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Posts: 5865
The more I think about it, the more fortunate the city of Elgin is
that this guy was arrested and is facing criminal charges. If he's
found guilty and sent away, his congregation will probably be
spared the tragedy of having another Jim Jones as their
"shepherd." I mean, can you think of a more dangerous
creature than one who is a cross-breed of cop and Baptist
preacher? Talk about a combination fo two professions that feed
on megalomania! There's no telling what this guy would have
done had he not been caught.

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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
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Grigg

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JmE Re: Re: Re: MOLESTER?


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quote:

Originally posted by GC505


Registered: Aug 2005 This law exists in Illinois also, and is another law
Location: Directly behind you this child-abusing dickhead violated.
Posts: 861

Thanks for clarifying that requirement. Honestly, I was too tired to


look it up for IL.

Apparently he learned well to violate the law while he was


copscum; a trend it appears he carried on into his ministry.

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Coimhead fearg fhear na foighde ~ (Beware the anger of a


patient man) - Irish/Gaelic phrase
<Insert stupid/oppressive swine comment here. It doesn't matter as it all is the
same BS.> -- Typical LE Copscum
To the point, I hate LE. Clear enough? -- JmE

I respectfully dissent without further mooting cum hoc ergo propter hoc
distinction of inalienable rights based upon genotype of any H. s. sapiens. --
JmE, 'Heinz 57'

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provide until He provides."
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JmE Re: Re: Re: Re: MOLESTER?


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quote:

Originally posted by liberranter


Registered: Aug 2005 <cut>
Location: Directly behind you can you think of a more dangerous creature than
Posts: 861
one who is a cross-breed of cop and Baptist
preacher? Talk about a combination fo two
professions that feed on megalomania!
<cut>

+1

But I would not limit that to Baptist preachers... I don't particularly


care for many of the 'professional' preachers I have known. That is
one of the reasons I tend to call myself a 'pastor' as I help (*not
preach*) to those in need. Usually those in dire straits (homeless,
sustance abuse, tutoring at all levels including doctorate). I have no
church nor do I ever want one. I take not one cent for what I do
nor do I ever intend to so do.

BTW: I smoke cigarettes & cigars, occasionally cuss (but try to keep
it to a minimum), etc. I suffer from all the same short comings as
the rest of us. 'Tis no excuse, but I believe most of it tend to be
remenants of my 'street' background and the places I find myself
helping others.

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patient man) - Irish/Gaelic phrase


<Insert stupid/oppressive swine comment here. It doesn't matter as it all is the
same BS.> -- Typical LE Copscum
To the point, I hate LE. Clear enough? -- JmE

I respectfully dissent without further mooting cum hoc ergo propter hoc
distinction of inalienable rights based upon genotype of any H. s. sapiens. --
JmE, 'Heinz 57'

Inspiration & Hope:


"G_d, I know, will provide," sighed one disconsolate Jew. "I only wish He would
provide until He provides."
There is nothing new under the Sun.

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FightinIrish Trial set for Elgin Pastor, Former Cop


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Trial set for Elgin Pastor


Registered: May 2008 http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=214353&src=5
Location: Chicago
Posts: 23
By Adam Kovac | Daily Herald Staff Writer
Published: 7/2/2008 2:31 PM

A trial was scheduled Wednesday for an Elgin pastor accused of


spanking a 12-year-old girl he thought had lied to him about being
molested by a relative.

The Rev. Daryl Bujak is set to face a jury starting Sept. 29, in
what is expected to be up to a three-day trial in Kane County
Judge Allen Anderson's courtroom.

Bujak, 32, is accused of battery and failure to report a suspected


sexual assault. He is free on bail and maintains he is not guilty of
the allegations.

The McHenry County girl first came to Bujak, a pastor at the First
Missionary Baptist Church, in March 2005, and said she had been
sexually abused on several occasions.

Believing she was lying, Bujak used a 3-foot-long piece of wood


molding to spank the girl after weekly counseling sessions over a
roughly two-month span, authorities have said.

The battery charge is a misdemeanor offense but the failure to


report allegation has been a point of contention as Bujak's case has
inched closer to trial.

His attorney has argued Bujak was not required to report the
alleged abuse, a case being handled in McHenry County, because
he would violate the clergy's confidentiality privilege.

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Prosecutors, however, have successfully argued that once Bujak


revealed the information to the girl's parents, he was no longer
protected by the confidentiality shield.

The case is back in court again Sept. 25, where attorneys on both
sides are expected to argue any pretrial motions.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/print/?id=214353

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liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by FightinIrish

Prosecutors, however, have successfully


argued that once Bujak revealed the
information to the girl's parents, he was no
longer protected by the confidentiality shield.

Registered: Jun 2005


Proof once again that, in addition to being a violent hypocrite
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 dickhead scumbag, Daryl isn't very smart either. But would we
expect anything else of an ex-cop?

I wonder if Heidi Magdalena is going to put on a show during


Daryl's trial in a desperate attempt to make him look like an
innocent victim. Let us hope so. If the drivel she threw up all
over this thread is any indication of her actual personality, she'll
have judge and jury so fed up and pissed off that Daryl will be
quickly convicted of the charge and wind up with the harshest
sentence possible.

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silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
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Grigg

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freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
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Navigatr1 Police: Pastor paddled girl who claimed abuse


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Police: Pastor paddled girl who claimed abuse


Mom doubted allegations against relative, took teen to cleric for
counseling
Registered: Jul 2003 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12759152/
Location:
Posts: 31403
updated 6:22 p.m. ET, Fri., May. 12, 2006

ELGIN, Ill. - A pastor was charged with spanking a 13-year-old girl


with a piece of wood because he thought she was lying when she
said she was sexually abused by a relative.

Police said the Rev. Daryl Bujak struck the girl hard enough to
cause bruises and welts after she was brought to him for counseling
because her mother doubted the claims.

Officials said they believe the girl's allegations of sexual abuse, and
this week authorities in McHenry County charged a 33-year-old man
with abusing her from September 2003 until March 2005.

"It's unbelievable," said Lt. Mike Turner. "It's a sad case for this
girl."

The mother said Bujak, pastor at First Missionary Baptist Church in


suburban Chicago, told her the girl had acknowledged lying when
they met between March and May.

"I feel terrible," said the mother. "I feel like a heel. I didn't know."

Bujak, who was charged with misdemeanor battery, surrendered to


police Wednesday and was released after posting $500 bail. A
message left Friday at the Elgin home of a Daryl Bujak was not
immediately returned.

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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Navigatr1 Pastor Free On Bond After Beating Teen With Stick


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May 12, 2006 4:01 pm US/Central

Pastor Free On Bond After Beating Teen With Stick


Registered: Jul 2003 http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/2.328082.html
Location:
Posts: 31403 (CBS) A suburban Chicago pastor has been charged with
misdemeanor battery after he allegedly spanked a 13-year-old girl
with a piece of wood because he thought she was lying about being
sexually abused by a relative, authorities said.

Officials said they believe the girl's allegations of sexual abuse are
true.

Yet the Rev. Daryl Bujak, the pastor of the First Missionary Baptist
Church, struck the girl -- then 12 years old -- hard enough to cause
bruises and welts on her legs and buttocks, according to Elgin
police.

"It's unbelievable," said Lt. Mike Turner of the alleged beatings that
occurred in counseling sessions after the girl was brought to Bujak
because the mother, too, doubted her daughter. "It's a sad case for
this girl."

In fact, this week, as Bujak was charged, Matthew E. Resh, 33, of


Ingleside, was charged in McHenry County with five counts of
predatory criminal sexual assault. According to a complaint filed in
the county's circuit court, authorities suspect Resh abused the girl
from September 2003 until March 2005.

Child welfare advocates were angry at both Bujak and the mother.

"When a kid gets up the courage after being sexually abused to tell
a parent, that means that is a cry for help," said Cook County Public
Guardian Robert Harris, whose office deals with children who have
been abused. "They won't say help anymore if they are taught that
when you say help you might get punished, you might get beaten
for it."

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Ronald Davidson, who is on the faculty of the University of Illinois


at Chicago's department of psychology said that if the allegations
are true, it means that the girl was "betrayed" by not only the man
who abused her, but by her mother and again by the pastor.

"My sense is it will be hard for this child to easily trust another adult
for some time," he said.

The mother said if she could do things differently, she would have
listened to her daughter and believed her -- instead of taking her to
Bujak, her family's pastor at the time.

"I feel terrible," said the mother. She recalled that Bujak, who met
with the girl between March and May of last year, told her that the
girl had admitted to him that she was lying. "I feel like a heel. I
didn't know."

Bujak surrendered to police Wednesday night and was released


after posting $500 cash bail. A message left Friday morning at the
Elgin home of a Daryl Bujak was not immediately returned
Messages left for comment Friday at Matthew Resh's workplace and
on his cell phone were not immediately returned.

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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Navigatr1 Girl Allegedly Spanked By Pastor Was Left Confused


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May 17, 2006 10:55 am US/Central

Girl Allegedly Spanked By Pastor Was Left Confused


Registered: Jul 2003 http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/E...l.2.328428.html
Location:
Posts: 31403 ELGIN, Ill. (CBS) ― A 13-year-old girl who was allegedly spanked
by her family's pastor says her mother's approval of the beatings
left her feeling confused.

The teen told the Elgin Courier-News that her mother's consent left
her wondering whether the pastor's actions were wrong.

The girl was 12 when prosecutors say she was beaten with a piece
of wood molding during counseling sessions after she accused a
relative of sexually abusing her.

The Rev. Daryl Bujak of the First Missionary Baptist Church has
been charged with misdemeanor battery in the case.

Authorities say Bujak and the child's mother both believed she was
lying, but a man has since been charged with abusing the girl.

Matthew E. Resh, 33, of Ingleside, was charged in McHenry County


with five counts of predatory criminal sexual assault. According to a
complaint filed in the county's circuit court, authorities suspect Resh
abused the girl from September 2003 until March 2005.

Bujak surrendered to police last week and was released after


posting $500 cash bail. He has declined to comment on the
situation.

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 Teen Silenced From Speaking About Alleged Assault


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Teen Silenced From Speaking About Alleged Assault


Registered: Jul 2003 http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/2.328523.html
Location:
Posts: 31403 WOODSTOCK, Ill. (Northwest Herald) ― A 13-year-old girl who
police say was sexually assaulted by a family member and
physically abused by an Elgin pastor cannot speak publicly about
the allegations, a judge ruled Friday.

McHenry County Judge Michael Chmiel said in a juvenile court that


the victim could talk about the incidents only with her court-
appointed attorney, her counselor, and the Illinois Department of
Children and Family Services.

The girl conducted at least two newspaper interviews in the past


week about the criminal allegations.

To discuss the situation with anyone else, the girl must receive
permission from Chmiel or her attorney.

"It's unfortunate that this order even has to be entered," Chmiel


said.

Chmiel's decision was agreed to by the girl's parents, prosecutors,


and the her attorney.

Matthew Resh, 33, of Ingleside was arrested last week on multiple


charges of predatory criminal sexual assault for allegedly assaulting
the girl five times between September 2003 and March 2005.

Days later, Elgin Police charged the Rev. Daryl P. Bujak, 30, of First
Missionary Baptist Church in Elgin, with battery for spanking the girl
with a piece of wood molding when he did not believe her stories
about Resh.

An Illinois Department of Children and Family Services investigation


into the two incidents continues.

The victim's attorney, Jason Majer, a McHenry County assistant


public defender, declined to comment on the case.

Chmiel also ruled that the victim and her three siblings were to be
wards of the court, which could allow Chmiel to take the children
out of their mother's home and place them in foster care.

However, Chmiel allowed the children to remain in the custody of


their mother, who must continue to undergo counseling.

Resh, a former member of the Richmond Plan Commission, was


allowed to have supervised contact with three of his own children.

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Resh is free on $20,000 bond, and Bujak posted $500 bond.

Both men are next expected in court in June.

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Prosecutors want to use girl's comments


http://www.nwherald.com/articles/20...5a275509879.txt

Registered: Jul 2003 By JILLIAN DUCHNOWSKI - jduchnowski@nwherald.com


Location:
Posts: 31403
WOODSTOCK – Prosecutors want to use comments that a preteen
Richmond girl made to an older friend and her mother about a
family member’s alleged sexual abuse.

One letter to a Wisconsin woman has been destroyed; another


declares that the family member is a molester but doesn’t offer a
time frame or details. The girl’s mother initially discounted a note
scrawled on a small piece of paper, asking her daughter why she
was being naughty.

But prosecutors argued Thursday that they should be allowed to


use them in their case against Matthew E. Resh, 35, of Richmond.

He faces five counts of predatory criminal sexual assault, which is a


Class X felony.

Judge Joseph Condon plans to announce his decision July 3.

The alleged assaults happened between September 2003 and March


2005, when the girl left her mother the note offering some details
of the incidents.

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“It alarmed me, but I didn’t think Matt would be that way,” the
mother said Thursday.

The mother and Resh took the girl to her Elgin pastor, who agreed
that she was lying after speaking with her alone for about two
hours. The Rev. Daryl P. Bujak, pastor at First Missionary Baptist
Church, suggested corporal punishment, which the girl’s mother
said was part of church philosophy.

So Resh beat her with his hand, a piece of wood, or a plastic strip a
couple of times a week for about a month, the mother said
Thursday.

Resh’s attorney, David Missimer, pointed to discrepancies in the


mother’s account of the beatings, which she previously had said
were more frequent.

He also challenged why she waited until mid-October 2005 – when


she had a reason to be upset with Resh – before encouraging her
daughter to speak at length about the abuse. Prosecutors also hope
to use details from that conversation.

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 Why me? 13-year-old left confused, angry


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Why me? 13-year-old left confused, angry


http://www.kcchronicle.com/articles...21184425070.txt

Registered: Jul 2003 By ROB PHILLIPS


Location: rphillips@nwnewsgroup.com
Posts: 31403

RICHMOND - The 13-year-old Richmond girl who police say was


sexually assaulted by a family member and then beaten by her
pastor when she tried to tell about it said Wednesday that she
sometimes wondered if anyone would ever believe her.

"I was confused and angry," she said in an interview, which was
conducted with her mother's permission. "I was frustrated. I was
like 'Why are they doing this to me? Why me?' "

Within days last week, the girl's relative, Matthew Resh, 33, of
Ingleside, was charged with predatory criminal sexual assault of a
child, and the girl's former pastor, the Rev. Daryl P. Bujak, 30, of
First Missionary Baptist Church in Elgin, was charged with battery
for spanking the girl to discipline her for telling what he believed to
be lies.

Resh, who is due in court today, is accused of sexually assaulting


the girl five times between September 2003 and March 2005.

After the girl's mother and Bujak didn't believe the girl when she
tried to talk about the sexual assaults, Bujak asked permission to
begin spanking her with a piece of wood molding, police said.

The girl's mother said she agreed.

Between March and May 2005, Bujak spanked the girl at the church
every Wednesday before services, police said. According to the
victim and her mother, Matthew Resh also spanked the girl nightly
during the same time period.

The girl said she dreaded the Wednesday nights at church, which
she said typically included 45 minutes of counseling with Bujak and
15 minutes of spanking.

"He just said stuff about why it is not right to say that stuff and
asked me why I did it," the girl said. "Then he would spank me. ...
He would say 'stand still,' and he often asked me 'you know I still
love you, right?' "

The girl suffered bruises and welts to the back of her legs and
buttocks, police said.

The girl's mother and her children stopped attending the church last
fall, after prosecutors began to investigate Resh, she said.

Matthew Resh's attorney and Bujak could not be reached for

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comment Wednesday.

Bujak, who is free on $500 bond, next is expected in a Kane County


court June 16.

The girl's mother said she hoped to move her family to


Pennsylvania.

The girl, who admitted that her own counseling had been successful
so far, said she had learned valuable lessons from the last few
years.

"I learned that I need to just keep telling people even if nobody is
believing me," the girl said. "I need to speak up for what I know is
right."

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The pastor of an Elgin church accused of beating a 13-year-old


Richmond girl might have violated state laws requiring him to
report her claims of sexual abuse.

The Rev. Daryl P. Bujak, 30, counseled the alleged victim for
months after she accused Richmond resident Matthew Resh, 33, of
sexual assault, and was regularly spanking her with a board, Elgin
police said.

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Because her parents believed that the girl was lying about the
abuse, police have said that Bujak was beating her every week
before Wednesday night services at First Missionary Baptist Church
as a punishment.

As a clergy member, Bujak was required to tell the Department of


Children and Family Services about sexual abuse if there was
"reasonable cause" to believe it was occurring.

Bujak could not be reached for comment Friday afternoon by phone


or e-mail.

"Ministers need to realize that they do have an obligation [to


report] because many of them don't," said Linda Ellington-Palmer,
director of Child Advocacy Center of McHenry County Inc.

Though the state mandates that clergy members report abuse, it


also allows them to claim that the information was privileged if it
came through a confession or admission.

Also, the theological beliefs of Bujak's church would make its


leaders resistant to state rules over their activities, said J.D.
Bowers, an assistant professor of history at Northern Illinois
University.

On its Web site, the church describes itself as fundamental and


independent, a strain of unaffiliated Baptists who eschew any
outside control by denominational organizations. Instead, believers
run each church independently, preferring to follow only the
dictates of Scripture.

"They would dismiss the authority of the state," said Bowers, who
studies the history of American religions. "The state is the enemy,
though not in necessarily that stark of terms."

Bujak was charged with misdemeanor battery, but he has not been
charged with willfully violating the state's reporting requirement,
which also would be a misdemeanor offense.

Subsequent violations are felonies.

Kane County State's Attorney John Barsanti did not immediately


return phone calls seeking comment Friday afternoon.

Bujak surrendered to police Wednesday and was released when he


posted 10 percent of his $5,000 bail

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Navigatr1 Judge tells teen not to talk about assault


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Judge tells teen not to talk about assault


http://www.kcchronicle.com/articles...64717412328.txt

Registered: Jul 2003 By ROB PHILLIPS


Location: rphillips@nwnewsgroup.com
Posts: 31403

WOODSTOCK - A 13-year-old girl who police say was sexually


assaulted by a family member and physically abused by an Elgin
pastor cannot speak publicly about the allegations, a judge ruled
Friday.

McHenry County Judge Michael Chmiel said in a juvenile court that


the victim could talk about the incidents only with her court-

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appointed attorney, her counselor, and the Illinois Department of


Children and Family Services.

The girl conducted at least two newspaper interviews in the past


week about the criminal allegations.

To discuss the situation with anyone else, the girl must receive
permission from Chmiel or her attorney.

"It's unfortunate that this order even has to be entered," Chmiel


said.

Chmiel's decision was agreed to by the girl's parents, prosecutors,


and the her attorney.

Matthew Resh, 33, of Ingleside was arrested last week on multiple


charges of predatory criminal sexual assault for allegedly assaulting
the girl five times between September 2003 and March 2005.

Days later, Elgin Police charged the Rev. Daryl P. Bujak, 30, of
First Missionary Baptist Church in Elgin, with battery for spanking
the girl with a piece of wood molding when he did not believe her
stories about Resh.

An Illinois Department of Children and Family Services investigation


into the two incidents continues.

The victim's attorney, Jason Majer, a McHenry County assistant


public defender, declined to comment on the case.

Chmiel also ruled that the victim and her three siblings were to be
wards of the court, which could allow Chmiel to take the children
out of their mother's home and place them in foster care.

However, Chmiel allowed the children to remain in the custody of


their mother, who must continue to undergo counseling.

Resh, a former member of the Richmond Plan Commission, was


allowed to have supervised contact with three of his own children.

Resh is free on $20,000 bond, and Bujak posted $500 bond. Both
men are next expected in court in June.

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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 Note: This address isn't confirmed and was found via public records.
Extended Sabatical http://www.zabasearch.com/maps/?sna...&cy=2002&phone=

Record Created: 01/2002

Registered: Jul 2003 DARYL P BUJAK


Location: 400 CRYSTAL ST
Posts: 31403 ELGIN, IL 60123

Attachment: daryl p bujak sat 1.jpg


This has been downloaded 13 time(s).

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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Navigatr1 Another source lists the same address:


Extended Sabatical http://www.whitepages.com/search/Fi...ocaltime=survey

home

Registered: Jul 2003 Daryl P & Loretta A Bujak


Location: 400 N Crystal St
Posts: 31403 Elgin, IL 60123-3532

(847) 888-1812
Type: Land Line
Provider: Ameritech Illinois
Location: Elgin, IL
Due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to
a new service provider.

Age: 30-34

Listing date Apr. 2008

Attachment: daryl p bujak map 1.jpg


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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 Pastor Daryl P Bujak


Extended Sabatical http://www.fmbc.net/graphics/pastorbujak.jpg

Attachment: daryl p bujak 1.jpg


This has been downloaded 12 time(s).
Registered: Jul 2003
Location:
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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 First Missionary Baptist Church


Extended Sabatical 385 Silver St.
Elgin, IL 60123

Phone: (847) 742-2974


Registered: Jul 2003 Fax: (847) 742-2992
Location:
Posts: 31403 http://www.fmbc.net/graphics/churchbig.jpg

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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 Map of Church location:


Extended Sabatical http://maps.yahoo.com/map?q1=385%20...3&gid1=17227056

Attachment: daryl p bujak church map 1.jpg


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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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The Rev. Daryl Bujak is set to face a jury starting Sept.


29, in what is expected to be up to a three-day trial in
Kane County Judge Allen Anderson's courtroom.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location:
Posts: 31403

Could someone please get the court records on this case? Bujak's
case has apparently been moved to Kane County. The information
is a matter of public record, which should be posted here.

--Navigatr1

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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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JEM This bible thumper is charged with a misdemeanor for allegedly


Member doing this to the girl. If it actually occurred as often as is reported,
you would think it would be a felony.
Registered: Sep 2007
Location: SC If this was anybody else besides an ex cop and a preacher, I think
Posts: 32 that they would be charged with a felony.

If this guy really did this (I believe he probably did), it would be


something I would expect to come from a Fundamentalist Baptist.

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Chicago Woman Wins $7.9 Million for Rescuing a Police


Officer; Rachelle Jackson Rescued Officer From Burning
Registered: Jul 2003 Squad Car And Spent Over Ten Months In Jail
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The Hero Speaks - Interview with Rachelle Jackson after the verdict
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p.m., Friday, June 13, 2008 at 119 N. Peoria Street, Suite 3A,
Chicago, IL
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Chicago
woman, won $7.9 million dollars in her federal civil rights claim.
"Rachelle is a hero, and the jury knew it," said Christopher R.
Smith, one
of the attorneys for Rachelle Jackson.

On November 19, 2002, Rachelle Jackson heard twisting metal and


ran to
aid the occupants of a Chicago Police vehicle that had been in a car
crash.
The car caught fire, but Rachelle rescued Chicago Police Officer Kelly
Brogan from the car anyway. Many residents responded to aid the
officers.
During the chaos, someone stole the service weapon of Officer
Brogan's
partner, who lay slumped over the steering wheel unconscious.
Rachelle went
to the police station to be a witness.

Once there, officers subjected Rachelle to over fifty hours of


coercive
and abusive interrogation, without access to a bathroom.
Days later,
Officer Kelly Brogan, who Rachelle rescued, came forward
with a lie that
Rachelle Jackson had attempted to remove her star and steal
her gun;
Rachelle claimed she pulled the officer from the burning car.
After over
ten months in jail, Cook County Circuit Court Judge Schultz
exonerated
Rachelle of wrongdoing, just as the federal jury did
yesterday. The
eyewitnesses, except for Officer Brogan, all corroborated
Rachelle's story.

The jury found in favor of Rachelle on six claims, as follows:


Federal
False Arrest - $150,000.00; State False Arrest - $250,000.00;
Coercive
Questioning - $500,000.00; Length of Confinement -
$1,000,000.00; Malicious
Prosecution - $2,000,000.00; and Intentional Infliction of
Emotional
Distress - $4,000,000.00.

"Officer Brogan's attempt to jail a woman who rescued her and the
detectives that encouraged Brogan to do so reflects the integrity of
the
Chicago Police Department," said Daniel Alexander, lead attorney
representing Rachelle. "Peoples' rights can be, are, and will be
protected
in Chicago," said Christopher R. Smith, speaking after the verdict.

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Interview with Rachelle Jackson after the verdict at 3 p.m., Friday,


June 13, 2008 at 119 N. Peoria Street, Suite 3A, Chicago, IL 60607

CONTACT: Jared S. Kosoglad


TEL: 312-432-0400
CELL: 312-513-6000
EMAIL: jared.k@chicagocivilrightslawyers.com

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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
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http://www.wthitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8485786

Registered: Jul 2003 Associated Press - June 13, 2008 4:54 AM ET


Location:
Posts: 31403 CHICAGO (AP) - A woman who helped a Chicago police officer from
a wrecked squad car and was later accused of stealing a weapon
has been awarded $7.7 million by a federal jury for false arrest.

In November 2002, a car ran a stop sign in Rachelle Jackson's


neighborhood, slamming into a squad car. According to her
attorney, Jackson, who was walking nearby, found the officer
behind the wheel unconscious and the passenger, Officer Kelly
Brogan, dazed.

She pulled Brogan from the wreckage. Soon after, police


approached Jackson and told her that the driver's weapon had been
stolen.

Jackson was accused of the theft. She was charged and spent more

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than 10 months in the Cook County Jail awaiting trial. Her case was
later thrown out by a judge and Jackson sued the city of Chicago.

Defense attorney Andrew Hale said the amount the jury awarded
Jackson was "excessive."

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"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
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leave the area as soon as possible and just let him/her die.

It's safer that way.

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Senior Member they roast in the car? I know that in certain cultures, an apple is
always placed in the mouth of a roasted p*g as it slowly cooks in a
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Originally posted by GC505

There is a lesson to be learned from this.

If you should come across a crash in which a


police officer (or officers) is trapped,
unconscious and dying, look the other way,
leave the area as soon as possible and just let
him/her die.

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Yes, indeed. This lying, criminal, ungrateful swine has just


pronounced a death sentence on all of his fellow thugscum who
should find themselves in the position of having to be rescued
from certain death by a citizen. If this is the way they thank
those who save their lives, you can imagine --no, wait, there's
no need to imagine; we've SEEN FOR OURSELVES-- how they
would behave toward those threatening them with violence.

While I normally wouldn't think twice about the decision to risk


life and limb to rescue someone, ANYONE AT ALL, from the
situation Pig Brogan found himself in, I won't hesitate for a
second to walk right on past a cop in a burning car or building
or a cop who has been gutshot and lays bleeding on the street.
Any cop finding himself in this situation can use his last
few minutes of conscious life to thank his "brother in
blue" Kelly Brogan for his fate!

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Navigatr1 Lawsuits follow indicted Forest Park cop Mike Murphy


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Lawsuits follow indicted cop
Village defends officer’s more recent track record
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By Josh Adams

A ranking officer under federal indictment for using excessive force


and falsifying police records has, during his career in Forest Park,
been named in more lawsuits alleging similar tactics than any other
officer.

According to a Forest Park Review analysis of civil cases filed in

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Chicago's U.S. District Court, which has jurisdiction over such


matters in Forest Park, Sgt. Mike Murphy was named as a
defendant in four suits dating back to his third year with the
department in 1993. That total represents twice the number of
complaints brought against any other officer during that same
period.

During Murphy's 17-year career with the village, four other officers
were named as defendants in two federal lawsuits. For three of
those officers, the cases are still pending.

Late last month the U.S. Attorney's office of northern Illinois


announced the indictment of Murphy by a special grand jury. Local
and federal records show Murphy is accused of assaulting a
homeless man on Aug. 6, 2003, with a baton and pepper spray.
Prosecutors are also accusing Murphy of falsifying a department
report on the incident in an effort to hide the abuse. Murphy, 42, is
facing a maximum sentence of 30 years in prison and $500,000 in
fines.

Police and village officials declined to open up Murphy's personnel


file for public scrutiny or discuss the specifics of any disciplinary
action taken against him during his career. Such information is
exempt from disclosure under the state's Freedom of Information
Act, according to the village.

Police Chief Jim Ryan did, however, emphatically state that not a
single complaint has been filed with the department against Murphy
since Aug. 4, 2003 when Ryan took over as chief. Though the
incident that is the basis of the indictment occurred two days into
Ryan's tenure, the police chief said the alleged victim in the case,
Sidney Hooks, never brought his concerns to the police department.

In February 2004 Hooks filed suit against the village and Murphy.
That case was settled out of court for an undisclosed sum.

"Anybody can force an attorney to file a nuisance lawsuit," Ryan


said of the Hooks case. "It doesn't have to be an extremely good
case or a factual case for an attorney to agree to take a case."

Village Administrator Mike Sturino said he too, is unaware of any


complaints filed against Murphy since his own tenure began in early
2005.

Under the state's Freedom of Information Act, the Review has


requested copies of all complaints filed against Murphy during his
career. The Review is also seeking the disclosure of any financial
awards paid by the village in lawsuits filed against the department
since 1994.

Ryan also discounted the validity of a civil complaint filed by Robert


Wilson in 2004 against Murphy. That case was handled by the same
firm that represented Hooks and again, the plaintiff never filed a
complaint with the municipality, Ryan said. Court records show that

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case too, was settled out of court.

The chief said he suspects both of those cases were prompted by a


"very vindictive" employee within the department.

Gerald Frazier, Sr., is the president of the board of directors for


Citizens Alert, a police watchdog group in Chicago. Frazier's
organization focuses on police brutality but also led the charge to
bring the Chicago Police Board's monthly meetings out from behind
closed doors, and is working with legislators to mandate police
interrogations be videotaped.

Frazier disagreed with Ryan's assertion that lawyers are quick to


pick up frivolous suits in the interest of making a quick buck. The
need for evidence and credible witnesses is too heavy a burden for
law firms to take a weak case, Frazier said.

"Usually lawyers won't take the cases where somebody's just trying
to give a police department a bad name," Frazier said.

With more than 20 years of experience with Citizens Alert, Frazier


said it's typical for a police department's legal troubles to center
around a small percentage of the department's staff. That
tendency, he said, is due to a lack of discipline both on the part of
the officer and the supervisor.

Ryan's theory that the department has been victimized by a


vengeful employee is one that has been advanced by Mayor
Anthony Calderone as well. In an undated memo responding to a
Dec. 13, 2005, request from former commissioner Patrick Doolin,
Calderone dismissed the need for a third-party investigation into
claims of police brutality.

"Commissioner, please know there is no pending litigation against


the village of Forest Park pertaining to brutality and I'd like to keep
it that way," Calderone said in his response. "However, it is
apparent there are disgruntled employees who are trying very hard
to shift the focus from their very real and serious personnel issues."

Calderone did not respond to requests to be interviewed for this


story.

All four of the lawsuits brought against Murphy in his role as a


village police officer were settled out of court.

Sturino, the village administrator, was not on staff during the


settlement negotiations for any of the lawsuits filed against Murphy
and said he can't speak to what strategies may have been
employed. As a general rule, though, any organization wants to
avoid developing a reputation for being an easy kill, which would
only increase the likelihood of frivolous lawsuits.

Of the four federal complaints currently pending against nine


officers, Sturino said he has no intention of settling.

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"We absolutely plan to fight each and every one of these pending
cases," Sturino said. "We believe they're without merit and we will
prove it."

As for the criminal charges now pending against Murphy, a


spokesperson for the U.S. Attorney's office said the officer pled not
guilty on both counts during his Nov. 1 arraignment and is free on
personal recognizance. Murphy remains on paid administrative
leave from his policing duties.

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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


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Navigatr1 Family Secrets lawyer to defend local cop


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Family Secrets lawyer to defend local cop
Sgt. Mike Murphy enlists defense attorney from prolific Chicago trial
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By JOSH ADAMS

A high profile Chicago attorney who made headlines this summer


for his defense of organized crime boss Joseph "Joey the Clown"
Lombardo will represent a local police sergeant under felony
indictment for the alleged 2003 beating of a homeless man.

According to documents on file with the U.S. District Court, Rick


Halprin will defend Sgt. Mike Murphy against two federal charges
for which Murphy is facing a possible prison sentence of 30 years.
Halprin's Dec. 10 motion to replace Oak Park attorney William
Gamboney Jr. as Murphy's counsel was granted Dec. 13.

In a telephone interview following the hearing, Halprin said his

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client has every intention of defending himself against the charges.

"We're absolutely going to trial," Halprin said.

Murphy remains on paid administrative leave from his job as a


police officer in Forest Park following his Oct. 24 indictment. He is
accused of assaulting Sidney Hooks during an Aug. 6, 2003, arrest
and falsifying a police report on the incident. Hooks sued Murphy
and the village in 2004 and received a $50,000 settlement.

"I don't want to discuss trial strategy," Halprin said. "You'll hear all
that in my opening statements."

As a criminal defense attorney, one of Halprin's most notorious


clients is Lombardo, whom he has represented for approximately
six years. Lombardo was convicted in September of racketeering,
extortion and murder following the Family Secrets trial, which was
hailed by federal prosecutors for delivering a crippling blow to
organized crime in Chicago.

In that case, Halprin squared off against prosecutors from the U.S.
Attorney's Office. A spokesperson for the office, Randall Samborn,
would not comment on the possibility of a rematch with Halprin.

"I can't state emphatically enough that we have no comment on Mr.


Halprin taking the case," Samborn said.

No trial date has been set in the case.

As for Murphy's job status with the police department, Village


Administrator Mike Sturino said it's unclear how long Murphy will
remain on paid leave.

"As with all [administrative leave] cases, they are subject to


review," Sturino said.

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articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
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Navigatr1 Indicted cop hires a shark


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Indicted cop hires a shark
Sgt. Mike Murphy enlists defense attorney from blockbuster trial
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By Josh Adams

A high profile Chicago attorney who made headlines this summer


for his defense of organized crime boss Joseph "Joey the Clown"
Lombardo will represent a local police sergeant under felony
indictment for the alleged 2003 beating of a homeless man.

According to documents on file with the U.S. District Court, Rick


Halprin will defend Sgt. Mike Murphy against two federal charges
for which Murphy is facing a possible prison sentence of 30 years.
Halprin's Dec. 10 motion to replace Oak Park attorney William
Gamboney Jr. as Murphy's counsel was granted Dec. 13.

In a telephone interview following the hearing, Halprin said his


client has every intention of defending himself against the charges.

"We're absolutely going to trial," Halprin said.

Murphy remains on paid administrative leave from his job as a


police officer in Forest Park following his Oct. 24 indictment. He is
accused of assaulting Sidney Hooks during an Aug. 6, 2003, arrest
and falsifying a police report on the incident. Hooks sued Murphy
and the village in 2004 and received a $50,000 settlement.

"I don't want to discuss trial strategy," Halprin said. "You'll hear all
that in my opening statements."

As a criminal defense attorney, one of Halprin's most notorious


clients is Lombardo, whom he has represented for approximately
six years. Lombardo was convicted in September of racketeering,
extortion and murder following the Family Secrets trial, which was
hailed by federal prosecutors for delivering a crippling blow to
organized crime in Chicago.

Halprin declined to say who solicited whom with respect to his


representation of Murphy, but hinted that the indicted officer sought
his services.

"I think he's probably heard my name," Halprin said.

Murphy could not be reached for comment.

In the Family Secrets case, Halprin squared off against prosecutors


from the U.S. Attorney's Office. A spokesperson for the office,
Randall Samborn, would not comment on the possibility of a

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rematch with Halprin.

"I can't state emphatically enough that we have no comment on Mr.


Halprin taking the case," Samborn said.

No trial date has been set in the case.

As for Murphy's job status with the police department, Village


Administrator Mike Sturino said it's unclear how long Murphy will
remain on paid leave.

"As with all [administrative leave] cases, they are subject to


review," Sturino said.

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owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Commissioner to host benefit for indicted cop
Council members generally supportive of effort to fund criminal
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By Josh Adams

A federally indicted police officer who is under suspension will


benefit from a fundraising event this month that's being organized
by a member of the Forest Park village council. Commissioner Mark
Hosty said he is part of a group of "family and friends" selling
tickets at $40 a piece to attend a Dec. 29 soiree at a Hillside bar,
which is owned by Hosty.

The money raised will help pay for Sgt. Mike Murphy's legal defense
against a pair of felony criminal charges stemming from a beating

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the officer allegedly carried out on a homeless man while he was on-
duty in August of 2003. Murphy has not been allowed to return to
work since the October indictment was handed down, but he is still
receiving a paycheck.

Despite his role as a member of the government that employs


Murphy, Hosty denied that his effort presents the potential for
conflicts.

"I don't think so," Hosty said. "If you had a friend falsely accused of
something, wouldn't you help him out?"

The village of Forest Park has not been named as a party in the
case. In 2004 the village paid a $50,000 settlement to Sidney
Hooks, the alleged victim, when Hooks sued the municipality and
Murphy.

The commissioner acknowledged he is a longtime friend of Murphy's


and said the relationship goes back to childhood when his mother
taught Murphy in the third-grade. Hosty declined to say specifically
who else was organizing the fundraiser, and said he couldn't readily
recall those who have contributed to the cause. Friends and family
of Murphy's are being solicited, Hosty said.

News of the fundraiser has reached other village officials and


employees. The chairwoman of the Fire and Police Commission,
Amy Rita, said she was aware of the event but was not involved in
any way. She assumed as much for the commission's two other
members.

The Fire and Police Commission is charged with handling


disciplinary matters in the police department, but as of yet has not
played a role in Murphy's case. Should the village seek to place
Murphy on unpaid suspension or terminate him, the body would
have to give its approval.

Commissioners Mike Curry and Marty Tellalian confirmed they too,


are aware of the event and said they have not decided whether
they will participate. Tellalian said he could not predict a scenario in
which a commissioner's support of Murphy would jeopardize the
village.

"I'm inclined to go, as much to learn about Mike Murphy and the
situation he's in," Tellalian said.

Curry said he trusted Hosty's judgment in avoiding a potential


conflict.

"I do agree there potentially could be a conflict of interest," Curry


said. "However, Commissioner Hosty has decided to help one of our
officers and I think it's great he's decided to help one of our
officers. I don't think he's putting the village in jeopardy."

A phone call to Mayor Anthony Calderone was not immediately

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returned. Village Administrator Mike Sturino is on vacation and did


not return a call to his cell phone.

"I'm not prepared to pass judgment on whether an elected official


should or should not do something," Commissioner Rory Hoskins
said. "Mark Hosty and Mike Murphy are childhood friends, so it kind
of goes beyond the role of an elected official and a police officer."

Hoskins said he will be out of town on the date of the event and
"may or may not make a donation."

"I probably would not be in the habit of holding fundraisers for


indicted police officers myself, but again, he is a childhood friend [of
Hosty's]," Hoskins said.

Murphy, 42, is free on bond. A trial has not yet been scheduled for
the 17-year police veteran.

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owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 Forest Park police officer pleads guilty to violating man's civil rights
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Forest Park police officer pleads guilty to violating man's


civil rights
He is accused of beating a man and lying about it in a police report
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: By Joseph Sjostrom | Tribune reporter
Posts: 31403 11:27 PM CDT, April 18, 2008

A Forest Park police officer who faced federal felony charges that he
beat a man in 2003 and lied about it on a police report pleaded
guilty to one misdemeanor Friday.

Michael Murphy, 43, of Aurora entered a guilty plea to one count


of violating civil rights, a charge originally filed as a felony but

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reduced to a misdemeanor as part of an agreement with


prosecutors. U.S. District Judge David Coar accepted the deal and is
scheduled to sentence Murphy on July 9.

Prosecutors said they will recommend Murphy get a year in prison.


Murphy, who is on paid administrative leave from the Forest Park
Police Department, agreed to resign and never work as a police
officer again. Assistant U.S. Atty. Sergio Acosta declined to say why
the felony charge was reduced.

Murphy, who has been a police officer since 1990, was accused of
dousing Sidney Hooks with pepper spray and beating him with a
baton without lawful justification in August 2003.

A federal grand jury indicted Murphy in October, and he was placed


on paid administrative leave. Murphy also was accused of falsifying
a police report about the incident , but did not plead out to a count
of obstruction of justice.

According to prosecutors Friday, the incident occurred after a


storekeeper in Forest Park called police to complain that Hooks was
panhandling.

Responding officers told Hooks to move east across Harlem Avenue


toward Oak Park, but a few minutes later Murphy arrived on the
scene. He began following Hooks, and the two exchanged words,
prosecutors said. Murphy then sprayed and hit him with his club,
prosecutors said. Hooks suffered a broken wrist and was charged
with resisting arrest and aggravated assault.

Acosta said Murphy asked one of the officers on the scene to file a
complaint stating that Hooks had assaulted him, but the officer
declined.

Acosta said Murphy alleged in the complaint that Hooks had


assumed a boxing position and held out a beer bottle in a bag in a
threatening manner.

Murphy was scheduled to go on trial Monday. His attorney, Rick


Halprin, cited Murphy's 2002 governor's award for entering a
burning building in Forest Park and bringing out an unconscious
woman.

"This guy is not a thug who happens to be a policeman," Halprin


said. "This guy is a hero."

jsjostrom@tribune.com

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Badge stripped, officer faces jail time


Registered: Jul 2003 Sgt. Mike Murphy agrees to quit police force, never to return
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By Josh Adams
Editor

A 17-year veteran of the Forest Park Police Department could spend


up to a year in federal prison after pleading guilty to a
misdemeanor charge of violating a suspect's civil rights. The plea
was filed during an afternoon hearing held April 18 at the U.S.
District Court in Chicago.

The agreement reached between Sgt. Mike Murphy and federal


prosecutors was announced just as Murphy's criminal trial on felony
charges was set to begin on April 21.

"The defendant, Michael Murphy, a Forest Park police officer since


1990, also agreed to resign from the police department and never
work again as a law enforcement officer in any jurisdiction,"
prosecutors said in a statement released Friday afternoon.

Murphy, 43, was indicted in October on two felony counts.


Prosecutors alleged that he needlessly used pepper spray and a
police baton to subdue Sidney Hooks on Aug. 6, 2003. Hooks was
charged with resisting arrest and aggravated assault of a police
officer, but those charges were later dropped by county prosecutors.

In 2004, the village paid Hooks $50,000 to settle a civil case filed
against Murphy.

According to court and police records, Murphy was providing


assistance to two other officers at the time of Hooks' arrest. Police
were called to a Madison Street liquor store for reports of
panhandling. The officers who initially responded to the call were

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not going to take Hooks into custody, according to court records,


but Murphy continued to pursue the suspect even as Hooks was
given permission by the other officers to leave the scene.

Defense attorney Rick Halprin did not elaborate on the reasons for
entering a guilty plea, other than to say that his client was facing
felony charges. A sentencing hearing is scheduled for July 9, said
Halprin, and Murphy will remain free on bond till that date.

Deputy Police Chief Tom Aftanas, who was scheduled to testify in


the case, offered praise for the good work that Murphy did during
his career in the village. But the federal conviction of a police officer
is "concerning," he said.

"Over his career he's done some very good things for the police
department," Aftanas said. "At the same time, with this plea deal ...
it's disappointing. If he pled guilty, that's concerning."

According to the terms of the agreement, Murphy must resign his


position within seven days. Whether Murphy serves time behind
bars will be determined by a judge at the sentencing hearing in July.

See the April 23 edition of the Forest Park Review for complete
coverage of this story.

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
NORTHERN DISTRICT OF ILLINOIS
EASTERN DIVISION
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA )
Posts: 31403 ) No. 07 CR 686
vs. ) Judge David H. Coar
)
MICHAEL MURPHY )

PLEA AGREEMENT

1. This Plea Agreement between the United States Attorney for the
Northern
District of Illinois, PATRICK J. FITZGERALD, the Department of
Justice Civil Rights
Division Acting Assistant Attorney General GRACE CHUNG BECKER,
and defendant
MICHAEL MURPHY, and his attorneys, RICK HALPRIN and
DINAMARIE CALE, is

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made pursuant to Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Criminal


Procedure. The parties to this
Agreement have agreed upon the following:

Charge in This Case

2. The superseding information in this case charges defendant with


violating
Sidney Hooks’ civil rights, in violation of Title 18, United States
Code, Section 242 (Count
One).
3. Defendant has read the charge against him contained in the
superseding
information, and that charge has been fully explained to him by his
attorney.
4. Defendant fully understands the nature and elements of the
crime with which
he has been charged.

Charge to Which Defendant is Pleading Guilty


5. By this Plea Agreement, defendant agrees to enter a voluntary
plea of guilty
to Count One of the superseding information.
Factual Basis
6. Defendant will plead guilty because he is in fact guilty of the
charge contained
in the superseding information. In pleading guilty, defendant admits
the following facts and
that those facts establish his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and
constitute relevant conduct
within the meaning of Guideline 1B1.3:
On August 6, 2003, defendant MURPHY, while acting under color of
law, did
willfully subject Sidney Hooks to the deprivation of a right secured
and protected to him by
the Constitution and the laws of the United States, namely, the
right to be free from
unreasonable seizures by one acting under color of law, by
unlawfully striking Sidney
Hooks, without justification.
Specifically in the early morning hours of August 6, 2003, MURPHY
was working
for the Forest Park Police Department (“FPPD”) as a supervising
Sergeant. At
approximately 1:30 a.m., FPPD Officers Harold Grimes and David
Hohl responded to a call
about a panhandler at a retail establishment in the vicinity of
Madison Street and Harlem
Avenue in Forest Park. Officers Grimes and Hohl observed Sidney
Hooks walking
westbound on Madison and determined that he matched the
description given of the person
who was allegedly panhandling. As a result, they detained Hooks.

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Hooks was carrying a


closed container of beer in a paper bag. MURPHY arrived at the
scene shortly thereafter.
Eventually, Officer Grimes instructed Hooks to turn around and walk
eastbound back
to Oak Park, which was approximately two blocks to the east.
Hooks did as he was
instructed and began walking eastbound on Madison Street. Officers
Grimes and Hohl
prepared to leave the scene of the stop and resume their patrol
duties.
As Hooks walked away, MURPHY pulled up alongside of him and
kept pace with
Hooks. MURPHY and Hooks exchanged words. Specifically, Hooks
stated that he believed
MURPHY was harassing him. MURPHY then stopped his vehicle. He
got out and walked
directly towards Hooks, who remained on the sidewalk and did not
approach the street. As
he approached Hooks, MURPHY took out a cannister of pepper
spray and, without
justification, sprayed Hooks in the face. After he was struck in the
face with the pepper
spray, Hooks turned his back to MURPHY and began to rub his eyes.
While Hooks had his
back turned to him, MURPHY deployed his asp, which is an
extendable baton, and, again
without justification, struck Hooks more than once. At no time
during this encounter with
MURPHY did Hooks verbally or physically assault or threaten
MURPHY. As a result of
the unlawful force used by MURPHY, Hooks suffered minor chemical
burns to his eyes, a
broken left wrist, and a bruise to his right thigh. Hooks was
subsequently handcuffed and
transported to the FPPD station.
MURPHY later filled out an Offense/Incident Report and swore out
two Complaints
against Hooks. In those forms, MURPHY falsely asserted, among
other things, that: (a)
Hooks shouted threats to injure the officers as he walked away
from the scene; (b) Hooks
made threats to harm MURPHY; (c) Hooks advanced towards
MURPHY despite
MURPHY’s direction to Hooks to back away; (d) MURPHY warned
Hooks before spraying
him with the pepper spray; (e) at one point Hooks took a boxing
stance as if preparing to
strike MURPHY with the beer bottle; (f) after he sprayed Hooks with
the pepper spray,
Hooks “attempted to turn toward (MURPHY) as he (Hooks) stepped
backward toward
(MURPHY) while armed with the bottle”; and (g) back at the police

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station, Hooks stated


that “if you all left the (hand) cuffs on, I would have busted out off
them and ****ed you up.”
Each of these claims was false. MURPHY also attempted to get
Officer Grimes to sign a
false Complaint stating that Hooks had assaulted Grimes. Officer
Grimes refused to sign the
false Complaint. MURPHY made these false representations in an
effort to conceal his
excessive use of force on Hooks.

Maximum Statutory Penalties

7. Defendant understands that the charge to which he is pleading


guilty carries
the following statutory penalties:
a. A maximum sentence of 12 months’ imprisonment. This offense
also
carries a maximum fine of $100,000. Defendant further
understands that the judge also may
impose a term of supervised release of not more than one year.
b. In accord with Title 18, United States Code, Section 3013,
defendant
will be assessed $25 on the charge to which he has pled guilty, in
addition to any other
penalty imposed.

Sentencing Guidelines Calculations

8. Defendant understands that in imposing sentence the Court will


be guided by
the United States Sentencing Guidelines. Defendant understands
that the Sentencing
Guidelines are advisory, not mandatory, but that the Court must
consider the Guidelines in
determining a reasonable sentence.
9. For purposes of calculating the Sentencing Guidelines, the parties
agree on the
following points:
a. Applicable Guidelines. The Sentencing Guidelines to be applied
in this
case are those in effect at the time of sentencing. The following
statements regarding the
calculation of the Sentencing Guidelines are based on the
Guidelines Manual currently in
effect, namely the November 2007 Guideline Manual.
b. Offense Level Calculations.
i. Pursuant to Guideline Section 2H1.1(a), the base offense level is
the offense
level from the offense guideline applicable to any underlying offense
or 10, whichever is
greater. Defendant’s offense level should be determined based on
the underlying offense of

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Aggravated Assault. Under Guideline 2A2.2(a), the base offense


level is 14.
ii. Pursuant to Guideline 2A2.2(b)(2)(B), the offense level is
increased by four
levels because MURPHY used a dangerous weapon.
iii. Another five levels are warranted under Guideline 2A2.2(b)(3)
(B) because the
victim suffered serious bodily injury.
iv. Pursuant to Guideline 2H1.1(b)(1) the offense level is increased
by six levels
because the defendant was a public official at the time of the
offense and the offense was
committed under color of law;
v. Defendant has clearly demonstrated a recognition and affirmative
acceptance
of personal responsibility for his criminal conduct. If the
government does not receive
additional evidence in conflict with this provision, and if defendant
continues to accept
responsibility for his actions within the meaning of Guideline §3El.l
(a), including by
furnishing the United States Attorney’s Office and the Probation
Office with all requested
financial information relevant to his ability to satisfy any fine that
may be imposed in this
case, a two-level reduction in the offense level is appropriate.
c. Criminal History Category. With regard to determining
defendant's
criminal history points and criminal history category, based on the
facts now known to the
government, defendant’s criminal history points equal zero and
defendant’s criminal history
category is I.
d. Anticipated Advisory Sentencing Guidelines Range.
Therefore,
based on the facts now known to the government, the anticipated
offense level is 29, which,
when combined with the anticipated criminal history category of I,
results in an anticipated
advisory Sentencing Guidelines range of 87 to 108 months’
imprisonment. Because the
statutory maximum term of imprisonment for the count conviction
is 12 months, the effective
guideline range is 12 months. Defendant understands that this is in
addition to any supervised
release, fine, and restitution the Court may impose.
e. Defendant and his attorney and the government acknowledge
that the
above Guideline calculations are preliminary in nature, and are non-
binding predictions upon
which neither party is entitled to rely. Defendant understands that
further review of the facts
or applicable legal principles may lead the government to conclude

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that different or
additional Guideline provisions apply in this case. Defendant
understands that the Probation
Office will conduct its own investigation and that the Court
ultimately determines the facts
and law relevant to sentencing, and that the Court's determinations
govern the final Guideline
calculation. Accordingly, the validity of this Agreement is not
contingent upon the probation
officer’s or the Court's concurrence with the above calculations, and
defendant shall not have
a right to withdraw his plea on the basis of the Court's rejection of
these calculations.
f. Both parties expressly acknowledge that this plea agreement is
not
governed by Fed.R.Crim.P. 11(c)(1)(B), and that errors in applying
or interpreting any of the
Sentencing Guidelines may be corrected by either party prior to
sentencing. The parties may
correct these errors either by stipulation or by a statement to the
Probation Office or the
Court, setting forth the disagreement regarding the applicable
provisions of the Guidelines.
The validity of this Plea Agreement will not be affected by such
corrections, and defendant
shall not have a right to withdraw his plea, nor the government the
right to vacate this Plea
Agreement, on the basis of such corrections.

Agreements Relating to Sentencing

10. The parties agree to jointly recommend at the time of


sentencing that the Court
impose the statutory maximum term of 12 months imprisonment..
11. It is understood by the parties that the sentencing judge is
neither a party to nor
bound by this Plea Agreement and may impose a sentence up to
the maximum penalties as
set forth above. Defendant further acknowledges that if the Court
does not accept the
sentencing recommendation of the parties, defendant will have no
right to withdraw his
guilty plea.
12. Defendant agrees to pay the special assessment of $25 at the
time of sentencing
with a check or money order payable to the Clerk of the U.S.
District Court.

Presentence Investigation Report/Post-Sentence Supervision

13. Defendant understands that the United States Attorney's Office


in its
submission to the Probation Department as part of the Pre-

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Sentence Report and at sentencing


shall fully apprise the District Court and the Probation Office of the
nature, scope and extent
of defendant's conduct regarding the charge against him, and
related matters. The
government will make known all matters in aggravation and
mitigation relevant to the issue
of sentencing.
14. Defendant agrees to truthfully and completely execute a
Financial Statement
(with supporting documentation) prior to sentencing, to be provided
to and shared among the
Court, the Probation Office, and the United States Attorney’s Office
regarding all details of
his financial circumstances, including his recent income tax returns
as specified by the
probation officer. Defendant understands that providing false or
incomplete information, or
refusing to provide this information, may be used as a basis for
denial of a reduction for
acceptance of responsibility pursuant to Guideline §3E1.1 and
enhancement of his sentence
for obstruction of justice under Guideline §3Cl.l, and may be
prosecuted as a violation of
Title 18, United States Code, Section 1001 or as a contempt of the
Court.
15. For the purpose of monitoring defendant's compliance with his
obligations to
pay a fine during any term of supervised release or probation to
which defendant is
sentenced, defendant further consents to the disclosure by the IRS
to the Probation Office
and the United States Attorney’s Office of defendant's individual
income tax returns
(together with extensions, correspondence, and other tax
information) filed subsequent to
defendant's sentencing, to and including the final year of any period
of supervised release or
probation to which defendant is sentenced. Defendant also agrees
that a certified copy of this
Plea Agreement shall be sufficient evidence of defendant's request
to the IRS to disclose the
returns and return information, as provided for in Title 26, United
States Code, Section
6103(b).

Acknowledgments and Waivers Regarding Plea of Guilty


Nature of Plea Agreement

16. This Plea Agreement is entirely voluntary and represents the


entire agreement
between the United States Attorney and defendant regarding
defendant's criminal liability

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in case 06 CR 728.
17. This Plea Agreement concerns criminal liability only. Except as
expressly set
forth in this Agreement, nothing herein shall constitute a limitation,
waiver or release by the
United States or any of its agencies of any administrative or judicial
civil claim, demand or
cause of action it may have against defendant or any other person
or entity. The obligations
of this Agreement are limited to the United States Attorney's Office
for the Northern District
of Illinois and cannot bind any other federal, state or local
prosecuting, administrative or
regulatory authorities, except as expressly set forth in this
Agreement.

Waiver of Rights

18. Defendant understands that by pleading guilty he surrenders


certain rights,
including the following:
a. Trial rights. Defendant has the right to persist in a plea of not
guilty
to the charge against him, and if he does, he would have the right
to a public and speedy trial.
i. The trial could be either a jury trial or a trial by the judge sitting
without a jury. Defendant has a right to a jury trial. However, in
order that the trial be
conducted by the judge sitting without a jury, defendant, the
government, and the judge all
must agree that the trial be conducted by the judge without a jury.
ii. If the trial is a jury trial, the jury would be composed of twelve
citizens from the district, selected at random. Defendant and his
attorney would participate
in choosing the jury by requesting that the Court remove
prospective jurors for cause where
actual bias or other disqualification is shown, or by removing
prospective jurors without
cause by exercising peremptory challenges.
iii. If the trial is a jury trial, the jury would be instructed that
defendant is presumed innocent, that the government has the
burden of proving defendant
guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and that the jury could not
convict him unless, after
hearing all the evidence, it was persuaded of his guilt beyond a
reasonable doubt. The jury
would have to agree unanimously before it could return a verdict of
guilty or not guilty.
iv. If the trial is held by the judge without a jury, the judge would
find the facts and determine, after hearing all the evidence,
whether or not the judge was
persuaded that the government had established defendant's guilt
beyond a reasonable doubt.

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v. At a trial, whether by a jury or a judge, the government would


be required to present its witnesses and other evidence against
defendant. Defendant would
be able to confront those government witnesses and his attorney
would be able to crossexamine
them.
vi. At a trial, defendant could present witnesses and other evidence
in his own behalf. If the witnesses for defendant would not appear
voluntarily, he could
require their attendance through the subpoena power of the Court.
A defendant is not
required to present any evidence.
vii. At a trial, defendant would have a privilege against
selfincrimination
so that he could decline to testify, and no inference of guilt could be
drawn
from his refusal to testify. If defendant desired to do so, he could
testify in his own behalf.
b. Waiver of appellate and collateral rights. Defendant further
understands he is waiving all appellate issues that might have been
available if he had
exercised his right to trial. Defendant is aware that Title 18, United
States Code, Section
3742 affords a defendant the right to appeal his conviction and the
sentence imposed.
Acknowledging this, defendant knowingly waives the right to appeal
his conviction and any
part of the sentence, including any term of imprisonment and fine
within the maximums
provided by law, and including any order of restitution or forfeiture
(or the manner in which
that sentence was determined), in exchange for the concessions
made by the United States
in this Plea Agreement. In addition, defendant also waives his right
to challenge his
conviction and sentence, and the manner in which the sentence was
determined, in any
collateral attack or future challenge, including but not limited to a
motion brought under Title
28, United States Code, Section 2255. The waiver in this paragraph
does not apply to a claim
of involuntariness, or ineffective assistance of counsel, which
relates directly to this waiver
or to its negotiation.
c. Defendant understands that by pleading guilty he is waiving all
the
rights set forth in the prior paragraphs. Defendant's attorney has
explained those rights to
him, and the consequences of his waiver of those rights.

Restitution

19. The defendant agrees, pursuant to Title 18, United States Code,

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Section
3663(a)(3) to the entry of an order requiring him to make
restitution to Sidney Hooks in an
amount still to be determined. The defendant understands that Title
18, United States Code,
Section 3664 and Sections 5E1.1 and 5E1.2 of the Sentencing
Guidelines set forth the factors
to be weighed in setting a fine and in determining the schedule, if
any, according to which
restitution is to be paid in this case. The defendant agrees to
provide full and truthful
information to the court and United States Probation Officer
regarding all details of his
economic circumstances in order to determine the proper restitution
schedule according to
which the defendant may be ordered to pay. Defendant
understands that providing false or
incomplete information may be prosecuted as a violation of Title 18,
United States Code,
Section 1001, or as a contempt of the court.

Other Terms

20. Defendant agrees to resign from the Forest Park Police


Department and to
resign any Illinois law enforcement certification(s) within 7 days of
the entry of this plea of
guilty. Defendant further agrees to provide proof of his resignations
to the Probation Officer
within 14 days of this date. Finally, defendant agrees to never apply
for or accept
employment as a law enforcement officer with any other law
enforcement agency.
21. Defendant agrees to cooperate with the United States
Attorney’s Office in
collecting any unpaid fine for which defendant is liable, including
providing financial
statements and supporting records as requested by the United
States Attorney’s Office.

Conclusion

22. Defendant understands that this Plea Agreement will be filed


with the Court,
will become a matter of public record and may be disclosed to any
person.
23. Defendant understands that his compliance with each part of
this Plea
Agreement extends throughout the period of his sentence, and
failure to abide by any term
of the Agreement is a violation of the Agreement. Defendant further
understands that in the
event he violates this Agreement, the government, at its option,

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may move to vacate the


Agreement, rendering it null and void, and thereafter prosecute
defendant not subject to any
of the limits set forth in this Agreement, or may move to
resentence defendant or require
defendant’s specific performance of this Agreement. Defendant
understands and agrees that
in the event that the Court permits defendant to withdraw from this
Agreement, or defendant
breaches any of its terms and the government elects to void the
Agreement and prosecute
defendant, any prosecutions that are not time-barred by the
applicable statute of limitations
on the date of the signing of this Agreement may be commenced
against defendant in
accordance with this paragraph, notwithstanding the expiration of
the statute of limitations
between the signing of this Agreement and the commencement of
such prosecutions.
24. Should the judge refuse to accept defendant's plea of guilty,
this Plea
Agreement shall become null and void and neither party will be
bound thereto.
25. Defendant and his attorney acknowledge that no threats,
promises, or
representations have been made, nor agreements reached, other
than those set forth in this
Plea Agreement to cause defendant to plead guilty.
26. Defendant acknowledges that he has read this Plea Agreement
and carefully
reviewed each provision with his attorney. Defendant further
acknowledges that he
understands and voluntarily accepts each and every term and
condition of this Agreement.

AGREED THIS DATE: __________________


PATRICK J. FITZGERALD
United States Attorney

______________
MICHAEL MURPHY
Defendant

_______________
SERGIO E. ACOSTA
Assistant U.S. Attorney

___________
RICK HALPRIN
Attorney for Defendant

_____________
ELIZABETH BIFFL

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Trial Attorney,
United States Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division
United States Attorney Defendant

______________
DINAMARIE CALE
Attorney for Defendant

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I am not a Lawyer. My opinions are my own, and not necessarily those of the
owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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By Jeff Fuldauer
Contributing Writer

A Forest Park police sergeant pled guilty Friday to a federal civil


rights charge stemming from a 2003 arrest during which the officer
used his baton to break the suspect's wrist after stunning him with
pepper spray.

Michael Murphy, a police officer in the village since 1990, was


indicted in October 2007 by a federal grand jury on a pair of felony
charges for the use of excessive force and falsifying information on
an arrest report. The agreement reached with prosecutors was for a
single misdemeanor charge and carries a maximum jail sentence of
12 months.

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Had he been convicted on the felony charges, Murphy faced


up to 30 years behind bars and a fine of $500,000. Jury
selection was scheduled to begin on Monday, Apr. 21.

But before the trail could get under way, Murphy pled guilty
to police misconduct while acting "under color of law," and
agreed to resign from the police department, forfeiting his
ability to ever again work as a law enforcement officer in
any jurisdiction.

"Over his career he's done some very good things for the police
department," Deputy Chief Tom Aftanas said. "At the same time,
with this plea deal ... it's disappointing."

The incident in question occurred in the early morning hours of Aug.


6, 2003, when Murphy responded to a complaint about Sidney
Hooks, who was allegedly panhandling and creating a disturbance.
As the supervising sergeant on duty, Murphy arrived to assist fellow
officers Harold Grimes and David Hohl, who were the first to
respond. Grimes and Hohl determined the situation did not warrant
an arrest.

However, according to details outlined in the plea agreement,


Murphy improperly initiated a verbal confrontation before striking
Hooks with a baton and using pepper spray against him.

According to the agreement, "while Hooks had his back turned


toward [Murphy], Murphy deployed his asp and without justification
struck Hooks more than once."

Murphy is alleged to have later filed an incident report falsely


claiming that Hooks verbally threatened the officers before
advancing towards Murphy, intending to strike the officers with a
beer bottle.

In the plea agreement, Murphy also admitted to coercing Grimes to


sign a false complaint detailing Hooks' aggressive behavior. Grimes
refused to sign the complaint and was also expected to testify
against Murphy in the upcoming trial.

The plea does not include charges related to prosecutors'


allegations of obstruction of justice.

As part of the plea deal, Murphy admitted that at no time did Hooks
verbally or physically assault the officers.

Steve Johnsen, a former lieutenant with the department who served


as deputy chief in 2003, was one of several officers scheduled to
testify against Murphy. Johnsen said he was pleased to hear a deal
had been made to preempt the courtroom proceedings.

"By pleading guilty I think he saved everybody a lot of trouble,"


Johnsen said. "It is horrible to be put in a position to have to testify
against people you work with and depend upon every day for your

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own safety. That wasn't really fair to put them in that position.

"I take no joy in the fact that he would have to go to prison for
what he did. But for his own sake and for the morale of the
department I think a guilty plea was best."

The Hooks incident was not the first time Murphy was the subject of
a citizen complaint. On at least three other occasions, the village of
Forest Park paid settlements on civil cases in which Murphy was
named as a defendant.

"This definitely leaves [the department] with a black eye," Johnsen


said. "Mike Murphy is not the only guy in the department who is a
little heavy handed. This is an ongoing problem and it's
characteristic of the way the department is today."

Johnsen resigned from the force in early 2007 as municipal


hearings to strip him of his badge were set to begin. Johnsen was
accused of mishandling an investigation involving a village
commissioner and a bar owner.

Hooks, who was awarded $50,000 in a June 2004 settlement with


Forest Park, suffered a broken wrist, chemical burns to the eyes,
and a thigh bruise during his arrest.

Russell Binsworth, an associate at Loevy & Loevy who represented


Hooks in the 2004 civil case, said he was thankful federal
authorities took the case seriously and that no one else would be
subject to Murphy's misconduct.

"I'm glad that officer Murphy has taken accountability for his
actions," Binsworth said. "I hope that he will be punished with full
authority of the law and that this brings to light the scope of police
misconduct in this department."

Murphy's defense attorney, Rick Halprin, did not elaborate on the


reasons his client averted a trial but said the guilty plea is for a
lesser charge.

Randall Samborn, a spokesperson for the U.S. Attorney's office,


said he could not comment on a pending case until after sentencing
was imposed.

Following his indictment by the grand jury, Murphy was placed on


paid administrative leave. That pay and his pension are not in
jeopardy as a result of a guilty plea, though the agreement outlines
the possibility that Murphy may have to pay restitution, if so
ordered by the judge during sentencing.

U.S. District Judge David Coar will decide July 9 whether Murphy is
to serve time in jail.

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United States Attorney


Northern District of Illinois
Registered: Jul 2003 Patrick J. Fitzgerald Federal Building
Location: United States Attorney 219 South Dearborn Street, Fifth Floor
Posts: 31403 Chicago, Illinois 60604
(312) 353-5300

PRESS CONTACTS:
AUSA Scott Drury (312) 353-1416
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APRIL 18, 2008

FOREST PARK, ILLINOIS, POLICE OFFICER PLEADS GUILTY TO


FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION
http://chicago.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/...8/apr18_08a.htm

WASHINGTON - Grace Chung Becker, Acting Assistant Attorney


General for the Civil Rights Division, together with Patrick
Fitzgerald, U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois, and
Robert D. Grant, Special Agent in Charge of the Chicago Division of
the FBI, announced today that Michael Murphy, a sergeant with
the Forest Park Police Department, pleaded guilty in federal
court to using excessive force against a man in Forest Park,
Ill.

Murphy was indicted by a federal grand jury on Aug. 6, 2003, for


the color of law offense stemming from the stop of a man in Forest
Park. Murphy admitted that while on duty, he sprayed the victim in

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the face with pepper spray without justification and then repeatedly
struck him with an expandable baton. The victim suffered several
injuries, including a broken wrist. Murphy also admitted to
falsifying his police report in an effort to conceal his use of
excessive force.

The Civil Rights Division is committed to the vigorous enforcement


of every federal criminal civil rights statute, such as those laws that
prohibit the willful use of excessive force or other acts of
misconduct by law enforcement officials. The Division has compiled
a significant record on criminal civil rights prosecutions. During the
past six years, the Department of Justice has convicted nearly 50
percent more defendants for official misconduct than during the
preceding six years.

This case was investigated by special agents from the Chicago


Division of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The case was
prosecuted by Civil Rights Division Trial Attorney Betsy Biffl and
Assistant U.S. Attorney Sergio E. Acosta.

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Registered: Jul 2003 October 12, 2006


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Despite being named in two federal lawsuits and arrested by his
own police chief, Oak Brook Sgt. Randy Mucha remains optimistic.
He hopes to return to work soon.

The 19-year-veteran of the Oak Brook police force calls the claims
and accusations against him untrue. He believes evidence
presented at his Nov. 1 hearing in front of the Oak Brook Board of

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Police and Fire Commissioners will clear his name.

"I think it is not only being exaggerated, but given way more
attention than it really deserves," Mucha said of the recent media
coverage he has received.

Mucha was placed on paid leave June 7 after Police Chief Thomas
Sheahan filed charges against him in an effort to fire him. On Sept.
28, police commissioners decided to suspend Mucha's pay for 30
days because of a new set of charges.

"We brought forth the charges and we think we can prove them,"
Sheahan said.

The Darien resident is facing 15 charges including making an


unauthorized background check, conduct unbecoming of an officer,
insubordination, ridiculing the chief and investigating local citizens
and a citizen group without cause.

Mucha contends that he is innocent of all charges.

While Mucha was conducting an internal investigation, Sheahan


began treating him differently, he said. Mucha would not discuss
the specifics of this case, but said the information will come out at
his Nov. 1 hearing.

Even before his current suspension, Mucha was placed on paid


administrative leave from February to May. At that time, Mucha
said he was asked to take a fitness for duty psychological test,
which he passed.

Sheahan said he placed Mucha on leave before the formal charges


were filed because Sheahan was in the midst of an investigation
that involved some serious allegations.

On Aug. 17, Mucha was arrested for the unlawful requesting of


conviction information, a Class A misdemeanor.

Even though he admits to conducting a criminal history background


check on Oak Brook resident Fran Gaik, Mucha said it was justified
as part of his internal investigation.

In April 2005, Fran and Casey Gaik filed a federal suit against the
village and Mucha, alleging they were victims of a harassment
campaign because they publicly criticized the village. In September,
Oak Brook trustees agreed to accept a $2 million offer from the
village's insurance carrier to settle the suit.

A focal point of the lawsuit was a series of anonymous e-mails that


were sent to the Gaiks. Through discovery, the Gaiks' attorneys
were able to trace the account back to Mucha.

But Mucha said the communications were made by his wife, Carol,
unbeknownst to him.

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"Were there e-mails? Yes. Were they from me? No. Were they
harassing? I don't think so," Mucha said.

He said his wife first contacted the Citizens for Better Government,
a group formed by Fran Gaik, after a newspaper article made claims
about low morale within the police department.

"(My wife) back then and to this day feels more strongly about what
is said in the press than even I do," Mucha said.

When Mucha found out that his wife made the contact, he said he
was adamant that she stop all communications. But instead she
secretly opened a separate Internet account to hide further e-mails
from her husband.

Mucha said he only found out about the account in June through a
call from his attorney.

"I was as shocked as anybody else to find out that was my wife's
account," Mucha said.

Later that night, Mucha said his wife was responsible for some of
the e-mails in question during public comment at the June 27
village board meeting. At the advice of his attorney, Mucha then
updated answers in his deposition and interrogatories.

His wife opened the account using the personal information of Alan
Smith, a deceased Hinsdale resident.

"She said she just picked it at random from the phone book,"
Mucha said. "She never stole his identity."

Mucha said he has an explanation for all of the accusations made


against him and is looking forward to presenting evidence to the
board of fire and police commissioners.

Despite the attention being given to his case, Mucha does not worry
about returning to work if he is found innocent of the charges.

"I do believe the majority of people will understand there is two


sides to every story and won't rush to judgment," Mucha said.

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articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
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and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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http://www.dailyherald.com/story.asp?id=243852

Registered: Jul 2003 By Henry Stuttley


Location: Daily Herald Staff Writer
Posts: 31403
Posted Saturday, October 28, 2006

The legal woes of a suspended Oak Brook police sergeant might not
be resolved until sometime next year.

Police Sgt. Randy Mucha’s highly anticipated disciplinary hearing,


initially scheduled for next week, was delayed until his court case
on a misdemeanor criminal charge is complete.

In August, Mucha was arrested by Oak Brook police and charged


with “unlawful request of conviction information” amid an allegation
he illegally investigated Oak Brook couple Casey and Fran Gaik. The
Gaiks won a $2 million settlement in a civil suit over Mucha’s
actions.

The misdemeanor case was supposed to be heard Thursday in


DuPage County court, but was delayed for the second time.

Paul Darrah, spokesman for the DuPage County state’s attorney’s


office, said he’s not sure why the case was delayed. He said a
status hearing on the criminal case has been set for late November
in Wheaton.

Mucha, however, intends to exercise his Fifth Amendment rights on


the misdemeanor charge, which is not expected to go to court until
January, his attorney, Rick Reimer, said.

Reimer said Thursday if Mucha were to testify at his disciplinary


hearing before the criminal case, whatever he said in the hearing
could be used in and could possibly jeopardize the criminal case.

Therefore, Mucha would have to waive his Fifth Amendment rights


in the criminal case, Reimer said.

Oak Brook’s police and fire board unanimously decided to postpone


next week’s hearing until an undetermined date after the criminal
case is resolved.

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Mucha, a 19-year police veteran, faces numerous internal charges


including insubordination, criticizing and ridiculing Police Chief Tom
Sheahan and conduct unbecoming of an officer.

Mucha was placed on 30-day unpaid suspension last month and


said he wants both cases resolved immediately.

“Obviously, we’re not stalling,” said Mucha, who will remain on


unpaid suspension pending the outcome of the internal
investigation. “It’s no benefit to me to not being paid.”

Patrick Luchansky, Sheahan’s attorney, said the continuation of


Mucha’s criminal case hampers the way both sides try the
disciplinary hearing.

“We want to get this done as quickly as everybody else does,”


Luchansky said.

The police and fire board set a status hearing for 6:30 p.m. Jan. 11
at the village hall.

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articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Cop Off Force For 30 Days, No Pay
Location:
Posts: 2330 The Oak Brook police sergeant whose actions sparked a $2 million
lawsuit against the village received a 30-day suspension without
pay Thursday from the Oak Brook police and fire board.

Sgt. Randy Mucha faced the possibility of being dismissed from


the department, where he is a 20-veteran, after allegations of
misconduct brought against him by Police Chief Thomas Sheahan.

Sheahan alleged that Mucha violated the department’s rules and


regulations, public trust and the department’s chain of command.

“I am happy with the board’s decision and look forward to returning


to the force,” Mucha said. “I am pleased with the way everything
turned out.”

Applause and hollers erupted from Mucha’s family, friends and


some fellow police officers when the board announced its decision.

Audible gasps also came from some local residents and members of
the Oak Brook Citizens for Better Government, who backed the call
for Mucha’s dismissal.

John Baar, chairman of the police and fire board, told Mucha he
should be thankful for the lenient decision.

“The result of this could have been very different and it is our hope
and desire not to see you in front of this board in the near future,”
Baar said.

Sheahan and his supporters quickly left the hearing and could not
be reached afterward for comment.

The allegations against Mucha stem from actions that led to a


federal lawsuit against the village, police department and some
local officials. The suit was filed by a local couple, Casey and
Frances Gaik, who claimed Oak Brook police harassed and
videotaped them — and even entered their home illegally — after
they criticized the village government.

The village settled the suit for $2 million but admitted no


wrongdoing.

Village President Kevin Quinlan was haunted by the Mucha scandal


throughout his four-year term. In this month’s election, Quinlan lost
a six-way race to challenger John Craig, who earned more than 46
percent of the votes.

Quinlan said he applauds the board for coming to a resolution they


felt was just.

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“I think it’s good for the village that this is finally settled one way or
the other,” Quinlan said. “It’s been a long battle that tore this
village apart.”

Even though Mucha will keep his job, his legal troubles are not
over. The Cook and DuPage county state’s attorney’s offices are
conducting their own probes into his conduct and he faces a
misdemeanor charge in DuPage of unlawful requesting of conviction
information.

Police and fire board attorney John Broihier said Mucha has
immunity from his testimony being used in future criminal
proceedings.

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By Lane Kelley
Oak Brook Suburban Life
Wed Jun 13, 2007, 09:50 AM CDT

Oak Brook, IL - Randy Mucha said he is ready to get paychecks that


pay him more than nothing.

“Every two weeks I still get my pay stub that says zero,” said the
suspended Oak Brook cop Tuesday.

The reason Mucha, a 19-year veteran, gets paychecks worth


nothing is because of his recent conduct with the Oak Brook Police
Department. He was suspended without pay last August when he
was arrested on a misdemeanor charge.

Police Chief Thomas Sheahan wanted to fire Mucha, but a police


review board in late April chose instead to suspend the 43-year-old
cop for 30 days and let him go back to work.

Mucha said his suspension ended two weeks ago, but he is still
waiting for word from the village and Sheahan.

“I’ve called them and told them that I’m ready to come back to
work, when should I report and how do I get paid for some of this
back time that went unpaid,” Mucha said.

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Acting Village Manager Jeff Moline confirmed that Mucha’s


suspension has “run its course” from the April hearing date.

“So right now there’s just other personnel issues that we’re working
out with him,” Moline said, adding that he could not comment on
Mucha’s request for back pay.

“He can make those requests. I really can’t talk about personnel
issues that they’re making a request for,” Moline said.

Mucha’s attorney in his disciplinary hearing with the village, Jerome


Marconi, said the problem is Mucha requested an extension in
March on his disciplinary hearing. Asking for that extension —
during which time Mucha hired Marconi — may have undercut his
move for back pay, Marconi said.

“It is what it is, but if he’s not entitled to it, he’s not entitled to it,”
Marconi said.

Though the Board of Police and Fire Commissioners effectively


rejected Sheahan’s move to fire Mucha, the officer was not cleared
of wrongdoing. The commission found the cop guilty on nine of 15
charges filed by Sheahan relating to insubordination, conduct
unbecoming of an officer and other violations of police ethics.

Mucha said the commission’s decision showed that he did not


conduct an illegal background check on a resident, Fran Gaik, which
was what Sheahan arrested him for last August.

“Our position is that I should never have been on unpaid leave in


the first place,” Mucha said.

Mucha said a group of Oak Brook residents threw a fundraiser last


week to help him with legal bills, but said the donated funds are
“not even close” to wiping out his legal fees.

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Charges dropped against officer

By Art Barnum, Tribune staff reporter. Tribune freelance reporter


Steve Brosinski contributed to this report

Published July 13, 2007

Misdemeanor criminal charges against an Oak Brook police officer


accused of using a police database to conduct an illegal background
search about a resident were dropped Thursday.

Sgt. Randy Mucha was charged in April 2006 with violation of the
uniform conviction act, and a trial was set to begin Thursday.

Richard Kayne, Mucha's attorney, said Thursday that Mucha was


investigating village resident Casey Gaik, who Mucha thought had
obtained another police officer's unlisted telephone number.

"This use of looking at police files to check to see if another officer


has anything to be concerned about is proper use of police
authority," Kayne said.

DuPage County State's Atty. Joseph Birkett said Thursday he had


previously told Oak Brook Police Chief Thomas Sheahan that the
evidence "no longer supports the charge."

Mucha and Casey and Frances Gaik have been at the center of a
village political controversy, with the Gaiks receiving a $2 million
settlement after filing a lawsuit against the village accusing Mucha
of harassing them.

Casey Gaik had once been accused of pushing a village official


during an oral dispute, but those charges were dropped in May.

Sheahan has tried to fire Mucha, but in April the village's Fire and
Police Commission chose to suspend him for 30 days.

Sheahan is at present trying for the second time to fire Mucha.


Sheahan on Wednesday asked the Fire and Police Commission to
place Mucha on unpaid administrative leave, alleging that Mucha
was untruthful in a deposition for a federal lawsuit. But the panel
took no action and continued the hearing to July 28.

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Oak Brook fires officer from force

By Elisabeth Mistretta
Posted Tuesday, July 24, 2007

The Oak Brook police and fire board on Monday fired the sergeant
whose actions sparked a $2 million lawsuit against the village.

After Sgt. Randy Mucha was charged with lying under oath by Police
Chief Thomas Sheahan, the board found him guilty and dismissed
him from the department. He was a 20-year veteran of the force.

Mucha remained stoic as the verdict was announced and said he


and attorney Jerome Marconi will appeal the decision in DuPage
County Circuit Court.

During the hearing, Sheahan and attorney Patrick Lucansky argued


that Mucha lied under oath during his disciplinary hearing last April
and during a 2006 deposition.

“It’s important for all police officers to be truthful in court, in


reports and in everyday life,” Sheahan said during testimony.

Mucha first came under fire in 2005, when his on-duty actions led
to a federal lawsuit against the village, police department and some
local officials. The suit was filed by a local couple, Casey and
Frances Gaik, who claimed Oak Brook police harassed and
videotaped them — and even entered their home illegally — after
they criticized the village government.

The village settled the suit for $2 million without admitting


wrongdoing.

Initially, Mucha was able to keep his job after the board voted last
April to suspend him for 30 days without pay. But Marconi said
Mucha has not been allowed to return to work since and has lost
income and health insurance.

On Monday, Marconi argued that Sheahan didn’t like the board’s


April verdict and brought up new charges in an effort to boot Mucha
from the police force.

“The board made a decision last time that his background


warranted a 30-day suspension,” Marconi said. “Nothing has
changed since then. (The board) told him to go back, do his job and
not to show up (here) again. Sgt. Mucha was never able to go back

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and do his job. ”

But Lucansky said Mucha’s disciplinary record — a total of 48 days


and two written reprimands during his career — shows that
discipline does not affect him.

“The concept of progressive discipline was used here without any


result,” Lucansky said.

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ZoeJane Cop fired after panel says he lied


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Cop fired after panel says he lied

July 25, 2007


BY STEFANO ESPOSITO
Staff Reporter

An Oak Brook Police officer sued multiple times for allegedly


harassing residents was fired this week.

Randy Mucha, 43, said he now plans to work full time


installing video and computer systems in police vehicles, just
not for Oak Brook.

"I'm very disappointed," Mucha said in an interview Tuesday. "We


will be appealing to the circuit court."

Mucha was recently suspended for 30 days without pay by the Oak
Brook Police and Fire Commission, but Monday night the
commission made it permanent.

The firing stems in part from testimony Mucha gave during a


deposition in a federal lawsuit filed in 2005 by an Oak Brook couple
who said Mucha repeatedly harassed them after they criticized his
police department.

The police and fire commission found that Mucha lied during the
lawsuit deposition last year about whether he was familiar with an e-
mail user name sent from his computer to Fran and Casey Gaik's
home. Mucha initially said he was unfamiliar with the user name,
Linda Lucinda.

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Mucha's attorney, Jerry Marconi, argued Monday night that Mucha


didn't lie but had simply forgotten he had used the pseudonym.

In April, Oak Brook village attorneys also asked Mucha about the
pseudonym. He again said he didn't recall the name. Marconi said
Tuesday that it was again a case of a faulty memory.

On Tuesday, Marconi said his client won't immediately file an appeal.

"We are going to have to wait to see what the written decision is,"
Marconi said. "It's confusing as to where [Mucha] was untruthful."

Oak Brook agreed this year to pay $2 million to settle the Gaik's
harassment lawsuit.

The village admitted no wrongdoing.

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Navigatr1 Oak Brook officer accused of lying to board is fired


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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ack=1&cset=true

Registered: Jul 2003 By Steve Brosinski | Special to the Tribune


Location: July 24, 2007
Posts: 31403
A 20-year veteran of the Oak Brook Police Department who has
been embroiled in various legal controversies for more than two
years was fired Monday by the Police Commission.

Sgt. Randy Mucha was found guilty of lying and conduct


unbecoming an officer after 15 minutes of deliberation by
commissioners John Baar and Edward Nielsen. The accusations
involved testimony he gave at a commission hearing and in an
amended deposition for a federal lawsuit.

Mucha said he planned to appeal the ruling.

"Very disappointed," was all he said.

His attorney, Jerry Marconi, told the commissioners that finding


Mucha guilty would have a chilling effect on police who might
consider changing testimony they later realize was incorrect.

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"If you do [change testimony], you'll find yourself in the same


position as Sgt. Mucha," he said.

Newly appointed Commissioner Frederick Cappetta recused himself


after Marconi complained that Cappetta represented an Oak Brook
subdivision in a matter involving Police Chief Thomas Sheahan.

The testimony came in a case last year involving Oak Brook


residents Frances and Casey Gaik, who filed a federal lawsuit in
2005 alleging that Mucha and other village representatives
harassed them for their work in the Oak Brook Citizens for Better
Government, a watchdog group. The Gaiks won a $2 million
settlement last year with the village admitting no guilt.

Mucha testified in that case that he did not know Linda Lucinda. But
his attorney later filed an amended deposition, saying Mucha used
the screen name of Lucinda in an e-mail exchange.

During the commission hearing, Mucha said he signed the amended


deposition without reading it, but Sheahan accused him of lying to
cover up inconsistencies.

Mucha was named in another federal lawsuit filed in late September


by two Oak Brook police officers who alleged he and others were
attempting to discredit them for talking to trustees and residents
critical of the Police Department. A third lawsuit, filed in March by
another village resident, alleged abuses of power similar to those in
the Gaiks' case.

The department sought to fire Mucha, accusing him of official


misconduct, even as misdemeanor charges were pending against
him for allegedly using a police database to conduct an illegal
background search of Frances Gaik. Those charges were dropped by
the DuPage County state's attorney earlier this month, just before
his trial was scheduled to start.

Mucha went on paid leave in June 2006; his salary was stopped a
few months later. After months of disciplinary hearings, the
commission decided to suspend him for 30 days without pay. He
could have returned to work at the end of May, but did not.

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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 Randy Mucha started as an Oak Brook Police Patrol Officer in 1987
Extended Sabatical and earned a promotion to Sergeant in 1999 after serving as an
Assistant Shift Commander for several years. Randy started Oak
Brook's first K-9 program in 1993 and served as a K-9 handler from
1993-2000 with Police Dog Marlo. Randy is married and has one
Registered: Jul 2003 son and two German Shepherd Dogs. Randy has served as a Field
Location: Training Officer, Crash Reconstructionist, Juvenile Officer,
Posts: 31403 Breathalyzer Operator, Bicycle Officer, Detective Sergeant and
Acting Division Commander. Randy received a Criminal Justice
degree in 1984 from College Of DuPage. In 1999 he completed the
Northwestern University Supervision of Police Personnel (SPP)
program. In 2001 Randy earned a Bachelors Degree in Criminal
Social Justice (CSJ) from Lewis University and in 2002 a Masters of
Arts Degree in Leadership. He also completed the Northwestern
University School of Police Staff and Command (SPSC) in 2002. He
is three classes away from a Masters Degree in Public Safety
Administration (PSA) and hopes to graduate in late 2007. Over the
past twenty years Randy Mucha has been involved in the training
and/or supervision of the majority of the current officers in the Oak
Brook Police Department. Randy donates his services as Webmaster
for the Illinois Police Work Dog Association (ILPWDA) and Fraternal
Order of Police Lodge #213 (OBFOP213). Supported charities
include American Cancer Society, St Jude's Children's Hospital and
Habitat for Humanity. Randy and his wife's hobbies include auto
racing, live music, Corvettes and photography.
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"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots

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and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November


13, 1787

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NEWS RELEASE
http://www.oak-brook.org/dep_vservi...ucha8-17-06.pdf

Registered: Jul 2003 Oak Brook Police Department


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August 17, 2006
Subject:
Unlawful Requesting of Conviction
Information Arrest
Contact:
Benjamin Kadolph, Public Information Officer,
630-368-8733
Release #: 06-013

The Village of Oak Brook announces the arrest of Randy Mucha for
Unlawful Requesting
Conviction Information (20 ILCS 2635/18). Mucha turned himself
into the Oak Brook Police
Department on August 17, 2006 at about 9:30 AM. After being
processed and posting 10% of
the $2,500 bond ($250), Mucha was released with an assigned
court date of September 29, 2006
in DuPage County. Unlawful Requesting of Conviction Information is
a Class A misdemeanor.

This charge originates from an incident that occurred in February of


2005, but was only recently
brought to the attention of the police department. Randy Mucha
continues to be on paid
administrative leave with the Oak Brook Police Department. The
Oak Brook Board of Fire and
Police Commission is scheduled to meet on August 21, 2006 for a
status hearing on pending
charges against Sergeant Randy Mucha. The police department has
turned over information to
the DuPage County and Cook County State’s Attorney’s offices and
continues to cooperate in
their ongoing investigations.

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
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"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
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Navigatr1 Fired cop sues Oak Brook


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Federal suit also targets police chief
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...1,1746848.story
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: By Steve Brosinski | Special to the Tribune
Posts: 31403
September 26, 2007

Two months after being fired from the Oak Brook Police
Department, a former sergeant has turned to federal court in an
attempt to get his job back and to collect damages from his former
boss.

In a lawsuit filed by attorney Jerome Marconi in U.S. District Court


in Chicago, Randy Mucha alleged charges of false arrest,
defamation, malicious prosecution and invasion of privacy against
the Village of Oak Brook, Police Chief Thomas Sheahan and the
local Police and Fire Commission.

The seven-count suit filed Friday also asks the court to review the
police commission's decision to fire Mucha on July 23, calling the
hearing a "sham." Mucha seeks back pay and benefits, job
reinstatement and unspecified punitive damages against Sheahan.

According to the suit, Sheahan wrongly arrested Mucha last year on


a charge that he used a police database to do an illegal background
search on Frances Gaiks, who with her husband won a $2 million
settlement last year after filing a harassment suit against the
village.

In July, the DuPage County state's attorney's office dropped that


misdemeanor charge against Mucha. The suit further alleged
Sheahan was bent on prosecuting Mucha even after the
prosecutor's office told him it was "duty-bound" to dismiss the
charge.

Mucha's reputation was tarnished when Sheahan intentionally


misled a reporter that child pornography was found on Mucha's
computer, according to the suit. A forensic consultant hired by the
village to examine Mucha's hard drive determined there was no
evidence of porn on it, according to a memo to the village.

Mucha, a 20-year veteran member of the Oak Brook force, was


found guilty of lying and conduct unbecoming an officer at the July
hearing. Sheahan filed those charges after the commission denied
his request to fire Mucha on different complaints in March.

Village Atty. Mark Sterk said the suit is baseless.

"It's errant nonsense -- the whole thing start to finish," he said.

Sheahan said Mucha was treated fairly.

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"We didn't violate anyone's rights," he said.

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articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 Fired cop sues chief, village, commission


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http://www.chicagosuburbannews.com/...age/x1429057331

Registered: Jul 2003 By Lane Kelley, lkelley@libertysuburban.com


Location:
Oak Brook Suburban Life
Posts: 31403
Fri Sep 28, 2007, 10:43 AM CDT

Oak Brook, IL -

Former Oak Brook police Sgt. Randy Mucha has sued the village
and police officials over his firing two months ago.

Mucha sued the village of Oak Brook, Police Chief Thomas Sheahan
and the town’s Police and Fire Commission, which fired him July 23
for lying and unprofessional conduct.

In the suit filed in U.S. District Court in Chicago, Mucha accuses


village officials of false arrest, defamation, malicious prosecution
and invasion of privacy.

Sheahan wanted to fire Mucha regarding charges of insubordination


and conduct unbecoming an officer. But at the police review panel’s
first hearing in April, Mucha drew a 30-day suspension after being
found guilty of some charges and cleared on others.

However, the board agreed with Sheahan’s new charge in July


alleging Mucha lied at the spring hearing. Village attorney Mark
Sterk called the latest suit “nonsense” and said the allegations

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prove why the panel fired Mucha.

“He’s a liar,” Sterk said. “It just further demonstrates that this guy
just has a problem with the truth.”

Mucha’s lawyer, Jerome Marconi, said the two hearings had a


“predetermined result,” which was to fire Mucha. “There was no
way Sheahan was going to allow him to return to work,” Marconi
said.

Mucha was put on unpaid leave last September for doing what
Sheahan considered an illegal background check on a resident, who
later won a $2 million settlement in a federal lawsuit in which
Mucha was one of the defendants.

But in July, the misdemeanor charge regarding the background


check was dropped by the DuPage County state’s attorney’s office.
Former Oak Brook police Sgt. Randy Mucha filed a lawsuit against
the village and police officials over his firing two months ago.

Mucha sued the village of Oak Brook, Police Chief Thomas Sheahan
and the town’s Police and Fire Commission, which fired him July 23
for lying and unprofessional conduct.

In the suit filed in U.S. District Court in Chicago, Mucha accuses


village officials of false arrest, defamation, malicious prosecution
and invasion of privacy.

Sheahan wanted to fire Mucha regarding charges of insubordination


and conduct unbecoming an officer. But at the police review panel’s
first hearing in April, Mucha drew a 30-day suspension after being
found guilty of some charges and cleared on others.

However, the board agreed with Sheahan’s new charge in July


alleging Mucha lied at the spring hearing. Village attorney Mark
Sterk called the latest suit “nonsense” and said the allegations
prove why the panel fired Mucha.

“He’s a liar,” Sterk said. “It just further demonstrates that this guy
just has a problem with the truth.”

Mucha’s lawyer, Jerome Marconi, said the two hearings had a


“predetermined result,” which was to fire Mucha. “There was no
way Sheahan was going to allow him to return to work,” Marconi
said.

Mucha was put on unpaid leave last September for doing what
Sheahan considered an illegal background check on a resident, who
later won a $2 million settlement in a federal lawsuit in which
Mucha was one of the defendants.

But in July, the misdemeanor charge regarding the background


check was dropped by the DuPage County state’s attorney’s office.

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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
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randyvettes I can't wait for a Federal Jury to hear the facts. You should consider
Junior Member posting some other pics too. I like this one:

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10-03-2007 01:31 AM

chitownbrian Jeez, I feel bad that poor dog had to play with that idiot. I hope he
Senior Member didn't beat, rape or bring false charges against the dog.

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10-03-2007 10:19 PM

randyvettes quote:
Junior Member
Originally posted by chitownbrian
Jeez, I feel bad that poor dog had to play with
that idiot. I hope he didn't beat, rape or bring
Registered: Aug 2006 false charges against the dog.
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The Chief never got near the dog. Thank God.

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10-03-2007 11:14 PM

chitownbrian I'll give ya this much Randy, ya got a sense of humor!


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10-04-2007 01:05 PM

randyvettes It's the best way to try to maintain some sanity...


Junior Member I have been living this nightmare for 2 1/2 years. Now at least I can
look forward to a jury hearing the facts and not a 2-member panel
appointed by a mayor who is pals with the chief.

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continues
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/oakbroo...0808-s1.article
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By ALISSA RASCHKE

Former Oak Brook Police Sgt. Randy Mucha and Assistant State's
Attorney Joe Ruggiero took the stand Wednesday as the civil
complaint filed by Frances and Casey Gaik former village prosecutor
Joan Mullins ground forward in the U.S. District Court of the
Northern District of Illinois.

The Gaiks allege they were harassed by Mullins. The Gaiks' attorney
Steven Whitmer said in his opening remarks Monday that the case
revolves around three factors: An investigation Mullins allegedly did
of the Gaiks' backgrounds, harassment via e-mails and an alleged
malicious prosecution of Casey Gaik.

Ruggiero was called to testify about his relationship with Mullins


and how it factored into the prosecution of a criminal battery charge
against Casey Gaik in 2005. That case involved an incident outside
of a village board meeting in March of that year, when Mullins
alleged Casey Gaik battered her by grabbing both of her arms. A
surveillance video of the hallway was recovered and shows Casey
Gaik making physical contact with Mullins, but because of the
camera angle, it is difficult to tell if Casey Gaik, at nearly 6 feet tall,
touched or grabbed Mullins, who stands about 5-foot-3-inches.

Whitmer has asserted that case amounted to malicious prosecution.

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Casey Gaik also said during testimony Tuesday the State's


Attorney's Office had acted unethically by prosecuting Mullins' case
against him, because earlier in her career Mullins worked as an
assistant state's attorney in Joe Birkett's office.

But Ruggiero said there was nothing unethical or inappropriate


about Mullins' case, and said Casey Gaik may have been trying to
use the criminal proceedings as fuel for the current civil case.
Richard Russo, Casey Gaik's attorney for the criminal case, at the
time requested many motions, which delayed the process, Ruggiero
said.

Though the case was dropped by the DuPage County State's


Attorney's office in May 2007 because of a lack of evidence,
Ruggiero said probable cause had existed. He said the case was
high-profile because of the allegation of battery of a prosecutor in a
public place, and despite Casey Gaik's fear of imprisonment he
would have likely gotten supervision instead of jail time had he
been tried and found to be guilty, Ruggiero said.

Former cop testifies

With regard to the allegation that the Gaiks were harassed via e-
mail by Mullins, former Oak Brook police Sgt. Randy Mucha took the
blame.

As he took the stand Wednesday afternoon, Mucha claimed Mullins


had no part in the anonymous e-mails and that he had sent them
from an e-mail account at Excite.com. In his deposition, he claimed
he didn't know of the e-mail address. He later amended his
deposition to plead the Fifth Amendment, but on the stand, he
admitted that the tamandjon@excite.com address was created and
used by him and his wife.

Mucha also said that while he thought the e-mail pranks, which
offered tips about ****fighting at the Oak Brook Police Department,
were "sophomoric and juvenile" and that he regretted them, he also
thought the Gaiks were so desperate to find controversy, they
would believe any story he told.

Reputation at stake

Mullins also took the stand again Wednesday after starting her
testimony Tuesday afternoon. The mother of four said she was
worried about damage to her and her family's reputation, and the
effect on her young children due to Fran Gaik and the Oak Brook
Citizens for Better Government publicizing information about a
December 2004 incident involving Mullins.

Fran Gaik spoke out at a February 2005 village board meeting and
again to a Daily Herald reporter about problems within the Oak
Brook Police Department, including an accident Mullins had in
December 2004. Gaik alleged that after an evening with friends at
the York Tavern, Mullins ran her car over a curb near the entrance

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to Brook Forest subdivision. Mullins said the accident was a result of


an icy patch of road, and that she handled it in an entirely legal
manner. She reported the accident to police the following morning
and paid a ticket for not alerting law enforcement immediately.
Mullins said neither alcohol nor drugs played any role in the
accident, just winter road conditions. She asserts she had only been
drinking soft drinks and water.

Whitmer maintained the Gaiks' current suit has proceeded because


Mullins has been unwilling to back down in her alleged attacks
against the Gaiks. Mullins� attorney, Martin Dolan, has countered
that Mullins was first the object of harassment, and that her family
was targeted by Fran Gaik and OBCBG, after Mullins' accident.

Dolan said the Gaiks story didn't include all the facts.

"I compare this case to a reality TV show," Dolan said. "Reality


shows are not reality, and the Gaiks have crafted a well-put-
together reality TV show."

Seeking damages

The Gaiks are asking for damages to cover their legal expenses,
including $120,000 Casey Gaik said he accumulated in the two
years he spent defending the criminal charges, and the expenses of
relocating from their Oak Brook home to one in Burr Ridge last
year. Among the costs incurred are bills totaling $15,000 to
$18,000 a month for the upkeep of their Oak Brook home while it
continues to be on the market, Casey Gaik testified.

The couple asserts that Oak Brook was a hostile environment for
them and they feared further retaliation, though Frances Gaik still
owns and operates a counseling service out of the couple's adjacent
Oak Brook property.

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randyvettes Jury rules in favor of former Oak Brook prosecutor


Junior Member

Federal trial is over. Gaiks lost:


http://www.pioneerlocal.com/oakbroo...1008-s1.article

Registered: Aug 2006 Updated 5/10: Jury rules in favor of former Oak Brook
Location: IL
prosecutor
Posts: 15
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/oakbroo...1008-s1.article

May 10, 2008

By ALISSA RASCHKE

A jury ruled in favor of defendant and former Oak Brook Village


Prosecutor Joan Mullins on Friday in the civil case brought against
Mullins by former Oak Brook residents Fran and Casey Gaik.

After five days of testimony in the U.S. District Court of the


Northern District of Illinois, a jury ruled no damages be awarded to
the Gaiks. The jury also ruled there was no evidence proving Mullins
maliciously prosecuted Casey Gaik for an alleged battery incident in
March 2005.

The Gaiks had sought damages to cover their legal expenses,


including $60,000 Casey Gaik said he accumulated in the two years
he spent defending the criminal charges, and the expense of
relocating from their Oak Brook home to one in Burr Ridge last
year. Among the costs incurred are bills totaling $180,000 for the
upkeep of their Oak Brook home while it continues to be on the
market, Casey Gaik testified. They also asked for punitive damages
from Mullins in an unspecified amount.

The couple asserts that Oak Brook is a hostile environment for them
and they feared further retaliation, though Frances Gaik still owns
and operates a counseling service out of the couple's adjacent Oak
Brook property.

'Has her name back'

Mullins' attorney, Martin Dolan, said his client was pleased with the
outcome.

"The jury heard the evidence and the truth came out," he said.
"She's tired of being called a liar and finally has her name back."

Fran Gaik said despite the jury's finding she thought her case
illuminated issues within the village.

"I feel our efforts have made a tremendous difference in Oak Brook
in spite of today's loss," she said. "This litigation was difficult in that
we were severely restricted by the judge in presenting the entire
picture of what was occurring during this time.

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"The trial, as difficult as it was, was also the catalyst for bringing
light to many issues and confirmation of many of our original
allegations. The litigation has been a tremendous personal sacrifice
for both my husband and myself, and at the very least we are
relieved to be able to move on."

Goes back to 2005

The case has been ongoing since 2005, when the Gaiks allege they
were harassed by Mullins. Whitmer said in his opening remarks
Monday that the case revolved around three factors: An
investigation Mullins allegedly conducted of the Gaiks' backgrounds,
harassment via e-mail and an alleged malicious prosecution of
Casey Gaik.

The alleged battery took place in the hallway of Oak Brook Village
Hall during a board meeting, when Mullins said Casey Gaik battered
her by grabbing both of her arms. A surveillance video of the
hallway was recovered and shows Casey Gaik making physical
contact with Mullins, but because of the camera angle, it is difficult
to tell if Casey Gaik, at nearly 6 feet tall, touched or grabbed
Mullins, who stands about 5-foot-3-inches.

The criminal case against Casey Gaik was dropped in May 2007,
because of a lack of additional evidence.

Whitmer has asserted that case amounted to malicious prosecution.


Casey Gaik also said during testimony Tuesday the State's
Attorney's Office had acted unethically by prosecuting Mullins' case
against him, because earlier in her career Mullins worked as an
assistant state's attorney in Joe Birkett's office.

Assistant State's Attorney Joe Ruggiero testified Wednesday that


there was nothing unethical or inappropriate about Mullins' case
and that Casey Gaik may have been trying to use the criminal
proceedings as fuel for the current civil case. Richard Russo, Casey
Gaik's attorney for the criminal case, at the time requested many
motions, which delayed the process, Ruggiero said.

Former cop testifies

With regard to the allegation that the Gaiks were harassed via e-
mail by Mullins, former Oak Brook police Sgt. Randy Mucha took the
blame.

As he took the stand Wednesday afternoon, Mucha claimed Mullins


had no part in the anonymous e-mails and that he had sent them
from an e-mail account at Excite.com. In his deposition, he claimed
he didn't know of the e-mail address. He later amended his
deposition to plead the Fifth Amendment, but on the stand, he
admitted that the tamandjon@excite.com address was created and
used by him and his wife.

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Mucha also said that while he thought the e-mail pranks, which
offered tips about ****fighting at the Oak Brook Police Department,
were "sophomoric and juvenile" and that he regretted them, he also
thought the Gaiks were so desperate to find controversy, they
would believe any story he told.

Reputation at stake

When Mullins took the stand Tuesday and Wednesday, the mother
of four said she was worried about damage to her and her family's
reputation and the effect on her young children due to Fran Gaik
and the Oak Brook Citizens for Better Government publicizing
information about a December 2004 incident involving Mullins.

Fran Gaik spoke out at a February 2005 village board meeting and
again to a Daily Herald reporter about problems within the Oak
Brook Police Department, including an accident Mullins had in
December 2004. Gaik alleged that after an evening with friends at
the York Tavern, Mullins ran her car over a curb near the entrance
to Brook Forest subdivision. Mullins said the accident was a result of
an icy patch of road and that she handled it in an entirely legal
manner. She reported the accident to police the following morning
and paid a ticket for not alerting law enforcement immediately.
Mullins said neither alcohol nor drugs played any role in the
accident, just winter road conditions. She asserts she had only been
drinking soft drinks and water.

Whitmer maintained the Gaiks' current suit had proceeded because


Mullins has been unwilling to back down in her alleged attacks
against the Gaiks.

Mullins' attorney, Martin Dolan, has countered that Mullins was first
the object of harassment, and that her family was targeted by Fran
Gaik and OBCBG, after Mullins� accident.

Dolan said the Gaiks story didn't include all the facts.

"I compare this case to a reality TV show," Dolan said Monday.


"Reality shows are not reality, and the Gaiks have crafted a well-
put-together reality TV show."

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Navigatr1 quote:
Extended Sabatical

With regard to the allegation that the Gaiks were


harassed via e-mail by Mullins, former Oak Brook police
Sgt. Randy Mucha took the blame.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location:
Posts: 31403 As he took the stand Wednesday afternoon, Mucha
claimed Mullins had no part in the anonymous e-mails
and that he had sent them from an e-mail account at
Excite.com. In his deposition, he claimed he didn't
know of the e-mail address. He later amended his
deposition to plead the Fifth Amendment, but on the
stand, he admitted that the tamandjon@excite.com
address was created and used by him and his wife.

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Mucha also said that while he thought the e-mail


pranks, which offered tips about ****fighting at the
Oak Brook Police Department, were "sophomoric and
juvenile" and that he regretted them, he also thought
the Gaiks were so desperate to find controversy, they
would believe any story he told.

Looks like the Gaiks will now have to sue Randy Mucha for
harassment since he has admitted to sending the emails and
creating the email address used. Doesn't matter if Mucha later
amended his statement to take the 5th amendment as the
disposition in the court record will show the admission. The
admission by Mucha is what got Mullins off the hook. For that
matter the prosecutors office should pick up the case and charge
Mucha for harassing the Gaiks.

--Navigatr1

__________________
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owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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randyvettes quote:
Junior Member
Originally posted by Navigatr1
Looks like the Gaiks will now have to sue Randy
Mucha for harassment since he has admitted to
Registered: Aug 2006 sending the emails and creating the email
Location: IL address used. Doesn't matter if Mucha later
Posts: 15 amended his statement to take the 5th
amendment as the disposition in the court record
will show the admission. The admission by Mucha
is what got Mullins off the hook. For that matter
the prosecutors office should pick up the case and
charge Mucha for harassing the Gaiks.

--Navigatr1

They already sued me and several others and settled out of court
with the insurance carrier for the Village.

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Navigatr1 quote:
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According to the suit, Sheahan wrongly arrested Mucha


last year on a charge that he used a police database to
do an illegal background search on Frances Gaiks, who
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: with her husband won a $2 million settlement last year
Posts: 31403 after filing a harassment suit against the village.

I reread this thread randyvettes, and saw where the Gaiks sued
Oak Brook setting out of court for $2 million. However, I don't see
anything where they sued you. They could have, but the article
wasn't posted is all.

I found an 8 February 2008 article where Oak Brook police officer


Martin Zelisko and former officer Donald Malec contend you
anonymously emailed the Gaiks.
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...&threadid=28211

quote:

Zelisko and Malec contended Mucha anonymously e-


mailed the Gaiks and falsely accused Zelisko of

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engaging in illegal c*ckfighting so he would be fired.


Zelisko received an eight-day suspension after an
incident at the Gaiks' home.

While I am no lawyer, I believe the Gaiks can still sue you over
these emails that you sent them for you admitted in court that you
and your wife created the email address, tamandjon@excite.com
they were sent from. Your admission got Mullins off the hook, which
means you are taking the fall for the harassing emails.

--Navigatr1

__________________
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owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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05-11-2008 01:56 PM

Navigatr1 Civil suit against former Oak Brook village prosecutor goes to trial
Extended Sabatical

Updated 5/5: Civil suit against former Oak Brook village


prosecutor goes to trial
http://www.pioneerlocal.com/oakbroo...0508-s1.article
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: May 5, 2008
Posts: 31403
By ALISSA RASCHKE

Nearly two years after settling a suit with the village of Oak
Brook, the police department and former police Sgt. Randy
Mucha for $2 million, Oak Brook homeowners Fran and Casey
Gaik are one step closer to closure in another case.

After two years of continuances the couple's civil suit against Joan
Mullins, former village prosecutor for Oak Brook, went to trial in
the U.S. District Court of the Northern District of Illinois Monday in

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front of Judge Rebecca Pallmeyer. The Gaiks claim they were


harassed by Mullins.

Mullins was listed as a defendant in the case against the village two
years ago, but was not included in the settlement. She has publicly
asked the village for indemnification, which the village board and
Oak Brook's insurance carrier, Intergovernmental Risk Management
Agency, have denied.

Steven Whitmer, the Gaiks' attorney, said in his opening remarks


that the case has three factors: An investigation Mullins allegedly
did of the Gaiks' backgrounds, harassment via e-mails and alleged
malicious prosecution of Casey Gaik.

The harassment started, Whitmer claimed, after Fran Gaik spoke


out at a February 2005 village board meeting about problems with
the police department, including references made to an accident
Mullins had in December 2004, when she allegedly ran her car over
a curb near the entrance to Brook Forest subdivision and left the
scene after spending the evening at the York Tavern.

"Ms. Gaik asserted her First Amendment right," Whitmer said.

Mullins tried to bring criminal charges against Casey Gaik from an


incident outside of a village board meeting in March 2005, when
Casey Gaik allegedly battered Mullins. The charges were dropped by
the DuPage County State's Attorney's office in May 2007. Dolan
said at the time the case was dropped Mullins was worried that if
the misdemeanor charge against Casey Gaik had gone to trial, the
Gaiks would have used information from the proceedings against
Mullins in their federal complaint.

Whitmer claimed the current suit is in place because of Mullins'


unwillingness to back down in her alleged attacks against the Gaiks.
Mullins' attorney, Martin Dolan, countered in his opening remarks
that Mullins was first the object of harassment, and that her family
was targeted by Fran Gaik and her group, Citizens for Better
Government, after Mullins' accident.

Dolan said the Gaiks' story didn't include all the facts, and that
Mullins is a mother just trying to protect her family and her
reputation as a prosecutor.

"I compare this case to a reality TV show," Dolan said. "Reality


shows are not reality, and the Gaiks have crafted a well-put-
together reality TV show."

The Gaiks are asking for damages to cover their legal expenses and
the expenses of relocating from their Oak Brook home to one in
Burr Ridge. The couple claims Oak Brook was a hostile environment
for them and they feared further retaliation.

The case is set to continue all week.

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__________________
I am not a Lawyer. My opinions are my own, and not necessarily those of the
owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 quote:
Extended Sabatical

Nearly two years after settling a suit with the village of


Oak Brook, the police department and former police
Sgt. Randy Mucha for $2 million, Oak Brook
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: homeowners Fran and Casey Gaik are one step closer
Posts: 31403 to closure in another case.

Now I am a little confused here randyvettes. I see that the $2


million settle was against you and Oak Brook. Were the emails in
question part of the that settlement? When you primary source of
news is from online news articles, it is easy to get confused.
Sometimes those articles don't list the whole story, and contain
mistakes.

--Navigatr1

__________________
I am not a Lawyer. My opinions are my own, and not necessarily those of the
owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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randyvettes The c*ckfighting e-mails were sent to the Gaik's citizens group, Oak
Junior Member Brook Citizens for Better Governement. They were actually replied
to by Mrs Fran Gaik. Marty Zelisko was never accused of taking part
in c*ckfighting, thats an error by the media. Zelisko was caught at
the Gaiks lying about his location and activities. I was named in the
Registered: Aug 2006 suit against the village along with the Mayor and Village Prosecutor.
Location: IL The insurance carrier settled us out of the suit but wouldn't settle
Posts: 15 out for the Village Prosecutor. At trial the prosecutor won. If the
insurance carrier would have let us go to trial rather than settle, I
doubt any jury would have given them $2,000,000. for being stupid
enough to believe c*ckfighting e-mails.

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05-11-2008 04:30 PM

Navigatr1 Randy Mucha and K-9 Marlo (Retired)


Extended Sabatical http://www.ilpwda.com/mucha.jpg

Attachment: randy mucha 4.jpg


This has been downloaded 15 time(s).
Registered: Jul 2003
Location:
Posts: 31403 __________________
I am not a Lawyer. My opinions are my own, and not necessarily those of the
owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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randyvettes quote:
Junior Member
Originally posted by Navigatr1
Randy Mucha and K-9 Marlo (Retired)
http://www.ilpwda.com/mucha.jpg
Registered: Aug 2006
Location: IL
Posts: 15

Thats a nice pic of me - but it is 10 years old.

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Navigatr1 Mucha in the middle of village litigation


Extended Sabatical

Mucha in the middle of village litigation


http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/oakbr...ive/x1360938005

Registered: Jul 2003 By Lane Kelley


Location: Oak Brook Suburban Life
Posts: 31403
Wed May 23, 2007, 12:48 PM CDT

Oak Brook, IL -

Mention the swirl of litigation around the Village of Oak Brook and
its Police Department, and before long, people are talking about
Randy Mucha.

The 42-year-old veteran cop’s name is on lawsuits filed by citizens


and cops, and Mucha even rated a mention in the second sentence
of a recent letter to the village by its insurer about potential claims.

Mucha’s history in the village has become so tangled that his recent
suspension was a personal victory because it means he can return
to work soon. While suspended, Mucha admits he has been at the
eye of the storm.

“People have put me there,” Mucha said. “There’s a lot of people


who think because Randy’s continually in the news that Randy must
have done something. That’s not the case, either. “Randy’s
continually in the news because a certain group, a very small
group, continues to put Randy in the news.”

That group includes residents so upset with Mucha’s alleged


misconduct that they filed federal lawsuits. The village’s insurance
carrier also is concerned about how much money Mucha has cost
the village.

The Intergovernmental Risk Management Agency agreed to settle a


suit last summer for $2 million, filed by residents Fran and Casey

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Gaik.

Another suit making similar allegations — of harassing conduct and


retaliation by the veteran cop and other officials — was filed in late
March by resident Terry O’Malley. And two Oak Brook police
officers, Donald Malec and Martin Zelisko, filed a similar suit against
Mucha and some other officers last September.

“Those are the only two lawsuits that are pending against me
anywhere,” Mucha said, disputing claims by assistants to new
Village President John Craig that more lawsuits are pending.

New village attorney Mark Sterk said Tuesday he had not reviewed
all the town’s cases yet and did not want to comment on their
status.

“I don’t want to open my mouth and insert foot because I just don’t
have the whole lay of the land,” Sterk said.

Oak Brook Trustee Jeff Kennedy, legal liaison for the Village Board,
said the only lawsuits he knows about involving Mucha are those
filed by O’Malley, the two cops and the Gaiks.

Kennedy said there are half a dozen other suits against the village,
but they are “pretty much routine stuff.” Kennedy said the May 9
letter from IRMA did mention Mucha, but Kennedy said he does not
think the village is in danger of losing its insurance coverage.

The reason for Kennedy’s optimism is the village’s insurance


premium to IRMA declined this year by $49,000, from a $938,000
payment last year to $889,000 in 2007, Kennedy said, citing a Jan.
9 board vote.

“I don’t think we’re in serious jeopardy of losing their coverage,”


Kennedy said.

Mucha said he does not pretend he can go back to work and ignore
what has happened to him during the past two years. But he does
think he can work for Police Chief Tom Sheahan, who wanted to fire
him.

“I honestly don’t fault him for everything that has happened to me,”
Mucha said. “In the bigger picture, I do believe he has done what
he believes to be the right thing, although obviously I disagree with
the way a lot of it came about.”

By Andrew Westel
Oak Brook police officer and Darien resident Randy Mucha is
ready to head back to work after being suspended for one
month for alleged misconduct.
http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/oakbr...339be46b7b2.jpg

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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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Navigatr1 randyvettes wrote:


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quote:

Registered: Jul 2003 Thats a nice pic of me - but it is 10 years old.


Location:
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Glad you like it. Heheheh. I couldn't resist posting it. Nothing really
ever dies on the Internet you know. lol. You invited me to post a
few more pics of you anyway in a previous post. ppppp

Thank for clarifying about the c*ckfighting e-mails. I realize that


the news media, which we all rely on for news, doesn't always get
the facts correct. By the way, I edited your post so people can see
what the forum software was censoring.

Were you suspended for 5 days because you used the Oak Brook
computer to check out a couple in Florida? One source seems to
indicate this. The suspension was because the computer was used
for a non-Oak Brook case from my understanding. Just seeking
clarification is all.

--Navigatr1

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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randyvettes quote:
Junior Member
Originally posted by Navigatr1
Were you suspended for 5 days because you used
the Oak Brook computer to check out a couple in
Registered: Aug 2006 Florida? One source seems to indicate this. The
Location: IL suspension was because the computer was used
Posts: 15 for a non-Oak Brook case from my understanding.
Just seeking clarification is all.
--Navigatr1

I was suspended for 5 days for using Oak Brooks computer to run a
criminal history on a thief in Florida that I filed a police report
against in Orlando. I should have let Orlando PD run him on their
computer but I was in too much of a hurry. That was 2000 or 2001
I think.

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Navigatr1 Mucha v. Village Of Oak Brook et al; Case Number: 1:2007cv05350


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Mucha v. Village Of Oak Brook et al


http://dockets.justia.com/docket/co...case_id-213005/

Registered: Jul 2003 Plaintiff: Randy Mucha


Location: Defendant: Village Of Oak Brook, Thomas Sheahan and Board of
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Fire and Police Commissioners of The Village of Oak Brook

Case Number: 1:2007cv05350


Filed: September 21, 2007

Court: Illinois Northern District Court


Office: Chicago Office [ Court Info ]
County: Du Page
Presiding Judge: Honorable William T. Hart

Nature of Suit: Civil Rights - Other Civil Rights


Cause: 42:1983 Civil Rights Act
Jurisdiction: Federal Question
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
Amount Demanded: $500,000.00

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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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Navigatr1 Oak Brook cop draws 30-day suspension


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Oak Brook cop draws 30-day suspension


http://www.mysuburbanlife.com/oakbr...age/x2079936533

Registered: Jul 2003 By Lane Kelley


Location: Oak Brook Suburban Life
Posts: 31403
Thu Apr 26, 2007, 04:09 PM CDT

Oak Brook, IL -

A suspended Oak Brook cop at the center of the village’s long-


running police drama plans to rersume work in a month after
drawing a 30-day suspension.

The town’s Police and Fire Commission found Sgt. Randy Mucha
guilty on nine of 15 charges brought against him by Police Chief
Tom Sheahan. However, the panel decided against firing the 19-
year veteran officer.

“I’m glad they could see the forest for the trees,” Mucha said after
the verdict. “I made some errors, but it didn’t rise to the level
where they should terminate me.”

Sheahan avoided criticizing the decision, saying a month’s


suspension without pay was the toughest punishment the
commission could deliver without firing Mucha.

“We stand by the board’s decision,” Sheahan said. “The simple


answer is, we’re not judge and jury. Hey, this is America. We
presented things, we asked something, the board took it very
seriously and they handed out very, very serious discipline. And we
accept their discipline and go back to work.”

Sheahan wanted to fire Mucha for charges relating to


insubordination, conduct unbecoming an officer and other violations
of police ethics.

“(The charges) involve not being honest, they involve violating the
public trust, they involve insubordination, they involve violating the
chain of command,” Sheahan testified.

Sheahan even had Mucha arrested last August on a misdemeanor


charge for allegedly running an illegal criminal background check on
a resident. The squabble between the chief and the 19-year veteran
cop has split village trustees and the Police Department and
dragged on for more than two years, not just at Village Hall but in
federal court.

Oak Brook residents Fran and Casey Gaik, who filed a suit in 2005
accusing Mucha and other village officials of harassing a citizens
group they formed, won a $2 million settlement from the village's
insurance carrier last August.

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And earlier this month, another resident, Terrence O’Malley, filed


suit in U.S. District Court in Chicago stating that Mucha and other
officials “conspired to defame, slander and curb” O'Malley's political
criticism of village government beginning in 2005. O’Malley is
seeking $4 million in damages.

Mucha’s attorney, Jerome Marconi, said his client caught flak from
both sides in early 2005, from Sheahan, who didn’t like him, and
from rank and file officers annoyed by Mucha investigating their
whereabouts during shifts.

“Before the chief (Sheahan) came in he (Mucha) was the number


two person in the department,” Marconi said. “Sgt. Mucha’s
problems began when he (Mucha) started an investigation of his
own officers.”

Marconi told the Police and Fire Commission that a guilty verdict,
which would mean Mucha’s firing as a cop and also the loss of his
pension, would be “devastating upon the morale of this
department.”

“There’s some very serious problems in this Police Department, and


you’ve heard some of them in this hearing,” Marconi said.

Mucha still has some other legal problems to deal with, too. The
DuPage and Cook County state attorneys are investigating his
conduct, and he faces the misdemeanor charge over his arrest last
summer.

At a glance
Oak Brook Police Sgt. Randy Mucha was put on unpaid leave last
September following his arrest on a misdemeanor complaint of
“unlawful requesting of conviction information” by Chief Tom
Sheahan.

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
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Navigatr1 Photographs now an issue in ex-officer's suit


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Photographs now an issue in ex-officer's suit


http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=133749&src=2

Registered: Jul 2003 By Rob Olmstead | Daily Herald Staff


Location: Published: 2/13/2008 12:17 AM
Posts: 31403
The gloves have come off in the Oak Brook police department battle.

So too, apparently, have the clothes.

The latest development revealed in court documents is the


existence of a dispute between former police Sgt. Randy Mucha and
a former officer over "extremely sensitive photographs" that were
subpoenaed as part of two lawsuits.

At least one of the photographs was of a half-naked woman in an


Oak Brook police uniform.

The bare facts came out just days after Oak Brook's insurance
company agreed to pay $700,000 to settle claims by two officers
that Mucha and other police officials had violated the officers' First
Amendment rights by harassing them for speaking out about the
replacement of the village's police chief. Former officer Donald
Malec and current officer Martin Zelisko will split the $700,000.

The village also paid out $2 million to settle claims by two Oak
Brook residents -- Casey and Frances Gaik -- alleging similar
harassment by Mucha and other police officials for their objections
to the hiring of a new police chief.

Mucha has his own lawsuit pending against the village, alleging
violation of his rights for firing him in July after the alleged
harassment came to light.

Mucha and his attorneys filed a motion last week asking that a
federal judge order the return of the pictures, which were
subpoenaed as part of the contents of Mucha's computer drives.

Later, at least one photo was printed out and presented to Mucha
during an April administrative hearing, his lawyers wrote.

Mucha's attorneys contended the picture files were supposed to be


protected by court order, and that they were inappropriately turned
over to Oak Brook Police Chief Thomas Sheahan by Malec.

"Randy Mucha intentionally failed to advise this court that the


photographs in question were turned over to the Chief of Police …
as part of an … investigation into Randy Mucha's activities and his
posting of photographs on the Internet of nude or semi-nude
women … at least one of whom was partially clad in an Oak Brook

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police officer's uniform," responded Malec's lawyers.

They also alleged the photographs were not under the protection of
a court order.

Mucha's attorneys had asked U.S. District Court Judge James Zagel
to sanction Malec, but no ruling was made at a court hearing
Tuesday.

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articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 Read more about Oak Brook Officer Martin Zelisko, and former
Extended Sabatical officer Donald Malec here since their seems to be a relation to this
thread.
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...&threadid=28211

Registered: Jul 2003 --Navigatr1


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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 Former cop disputes Peterson link


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http://www.wickedlocal.com/ghs-news...nois/x805330563

Registered: Jul 2003 Lane Kelley, lkelley@mysuburbanlife.com


Location:
GateHouse News Service
Posts: 31403
Fri Dec 14, 2007, 02:01 PM EST

Bolingbrook, IL -

Former Oak Brook cop Randy Mucha said he has received many
inquiries recently about his connection to the Drew and Stacy
Peterson case in Bolingbrook.

But Mucha said he has never been questioned as a suspect by


authorities.

“It’s a story about nothing,” Mucha said, referring to TV reports he


met with Drew Peterson and son Steve before Stacy Peterson’s
disappearance Oct. 28.

Mucha, dismissed by the Police Department in August for official


misconduct, denied he met with the Petersons as alleged and said
he knows only Steve Peterson, who is an Oak Brook police officer.

As for the father, Mucha said he has met Drew Peterson twice.

“I’ve said no more to him than, ‘Hi, how are ya,’” Mucha said. “I’ve
never spent more than 20 seconds in a room with him. I’ve never
had a drink with him, never seen him anywhere other than at his
house when I was there to meet Steve and a bunch of other guys
and go for a motorcycle ride and then at Steve’s barbecue/wedding
reception.”

Drew Peterson, 53, is a former Bolingbrook officer and a suspect in


his 23-year-old wife’s suspected homicide, according to state police.
Drew Peterson believes his wife left him for another man and is
alive.

Illinois State Police Trooper Mark Dorencz said Steve Peterson and
some other Oak Brook officers have been interviewed about the
incident but none of the officers are suspects.

“They are not being investigated,” Dorencz said.

A local ABC television report said records of three Oak Brook


officers were subpoenaed in connection with Stacy Peterson’s
disappearance, and named Steve Peterson as one of the officers.

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Officer Mark Koslowski, spokesman for the Oak Brook Police


Department, said, “As far as I know, that’s not true.”

In late October, Oak Brook police said Steve Peterson was not a
“person of interest” in the case and said they were cooperating with
state police.

The TV report also hinted Mucha’s records had been subpoenaed,


referring to one of Peterson’s closest friends on the force who “was
recently terminated for lying and unauthorized access of criminal
files.” Mucha said Monday he has not been contacted by any police
officers in connection with the case, though he has received many
media calls.

“All I’ve heard is what has been reported back to me by Fox,


Geraldo, ABC, the Tribune, Sun-Times and Greta Van Susteren,”
Mucha said.

In early October, Mucha sued the village and police officials over his
firing in federal court, accusing village officials of false arrest,
defamation, malicious prosecution and invasion of privacy.

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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“People have put me there,” Mucha said. “There’s a lot


of people who think because Randy’s continually in the
news that Randy must have done something. That’s not
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: the case, either. “Randy’s continually in the news
Posts: 31403 because a certain group, a very small group, continues
to put Randy in the news.”

Isn't this statement true about the government too. Former


offenders are in the news because the government chooses to make
it news. We have law enforcement agencies telling the media when
certain types of offenders move into an area supposedly for the
residents safety. Doesn't matter if the crime happened 10, 20, or
30 years ago.

--Navigatr1

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Sep 25, 2006 8:47 pm US/Central


Oak Brook To Pay $2 Million In Harassment Suit
http://cbs2chicago.com/westsuburban...k.2.332346.html
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: by Mike Puccinelli
Posts: 31403
OAK BROOK (CBS) ― Oak Brook has agreed to pay $2 million to a
couple in the western suburb in an agreement to end charges of a
relentless campaign of harassment.

As CBS 2 West Suburban Bureau Chief Mike Puccinelli reports, a


high-ranking police sergeant was at the center of the accusations.

The Gaiks have just won $2 million in a lawsuit and they're not
entirely happy.

"It was a hollow kind of victory," Casey Gaik said.

So hollow that the Oak Brook couple has put its home up for sale.
They've been driven out of the town they say by a police force that
turned them into targets.

"We can't rely on the police to protect us," Frances Gaik said.

The Gaiks say it all began after they complained publicly about the
village president and the police department.

"I believe it is a very intent campaign of harassment," Frances Gaik


said.

The campaign they say included a barrage of threatening e-mails,


the destruction of the family mailbox, the intentional puncturing of
a car tire and the unlawful entry into their home by police.

But department officials say officers only entered the home after a
burglar alarm was sounded.

As for the alleged harassment, Oak Brook police say it involved Sgt.
Randy Mucha, who they contend was acting alone.

"As a result of ourinvestigation, we've determined that the officer


was acting inappropriately," said Lt. Jason Cates with the Oak Brook
Police Department.

But Mario Vescovi, the vice president of Oak Brook's Citizens For
Better Government, says the problems in the city are much bigger
than one renegade cop.

"Something is definitely rotten. I've been calling it a cabal of toxic


waste for the past year and a half," said Vescovi.

Casey and Frances Gaik won a $2 million harassment

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Registered: Jul 2003


Location: __________________
Posts: 31403 I am not a Lawyer. My opinions are my own, and not necessarily those of the
owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Registered: Jul 2003


Location: __________________
Posts: 31403 I am not a Lawyer. My opinions are my own, and not necessarily those of the
owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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randyvettes You are finding a lot of old info. It's all old news in oak brook.
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GC Marciano Old news or not, it is being compiled in this thread. I don't think
Copwatcher Extraordinaire anybody ever claimed this was breaking news. It may be old
news in Oak Brook, but it is new news to the rest of the country
that reads these forums to learn about criminal cops.

Given the reputation as scumbag criminals and liars that cops in


general have earned, I think it's reasonable to assume that
Randy Mucha is closely involved with wife-killer Drew Peterson.
If he weren't a cop I'd say give him the benefit of the doubt, but
he is a trained professional liar who spent years cowering
Registered: Jul 2003 behind a badge.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
I wonder what other skeletons some good investigative work
can drag from the deep, dark depths of Mucha's closet?

Time will tell...

NAME:
Randall J. Mucha
SPOUSE:
Carol P. Mucha
ADDRESS:
7721 Williams Street
Darien, IL 60561
TELEPHONE:
(630) 967-8465

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randyvettes quote:
Junior Member
Originally posted by GC505
I think it's reasonable to assume that Randy
Mucha is closely involved with wife-killer Drew
Registered: Aug 2006 Peterson.
Location: IL
Posts: 15

Wow. That is quite a leap. Reasonable to you? I don't know what to


say.

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GC Marciano No offense... I'm simply publishing bullshit speculation just like


Copwatcher Extraordinaire the police do when they merely suspect something based on
nothing. I didn't mean to put you in the same boat that you and
your ilk spend entire careers putting others in...

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense, does it?

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GC Marciano Randy... so are you doing squad car installs now?


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
I used to build squad cars (lights, radios, GPS and MDT/
computers) and repeater systems for United Radio
Communications in Bridgeview and later for Comm Direct in
Batavia.

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Registered: Jul 2003 "The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
Location: Chicago, Illinois on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
Posts: 9967 officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
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05-12-2008 02:15 AM

randyvettes No, I am not. But I am familiar with United, Radco, Lund, Chicago
Junior Member Comm, etc.

May I ask why you posted my personal info? I'd appreciate it if you
would delete it. I really don't need kooks calling or visiting.
Registered: Aug 2006
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05-12-2008 02:38 AM

GC Marciano From the public realm of the World Wide Web, specifically the
Copwatcher Extraordinaire following news media URL's:

http://www.northcountrygazette.net/...to-curb-2sm.jpg
http://www.northcountrygazette.net/...to-curb-1sm.jpg

Attachment: 1sm.png
This has been downloaded 37 time(s).

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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
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05-12-2008 02:43 AM

randyvettes I know its out there, but why do you need to repost it for more
Junior Member kooks to use? Please delete it. Thanks in advance.

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05-12-2008 02:47 AM

randyvettes quote:
Junior Member
Originally posted by GC505
Randy... so are you doing squad car installs now?

Registered: Aug 2006 I used to build squad cars (lights, radios, GPS and
Location: IL MDT/computers) and repeater systems for United
Posts: 15 Radio Communications in Bridgeview and later for
Comm Direct in Batavia.

This is my old employer:


http://www.topix.com/source/chicago...DNHLKDHQ/post45

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GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by randyvettes
I know its out there, but why do you need to
repost it for more kooks to use? Please delete
it. Thanks in advance.

Do you actively go after media outlets who publish the names


Registered: Jul 2003 and addresses of people merely charged with a crime? After all,
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
the names and addresses are released to the media for
publication by the arresting agencies.

In your years as a law enforcement officer have you fought an


active campaign against the media's publication of such
information, or are you just expecting preferential treatment
now that the shoe is on the other foot? After all, you were
charged with a crime, making you what LEO's across the nation
commonly refer to as a "scumbag".

Did you ever request the media remove the published "personal
information" (address, telephone number) of a suspect that you
arrested? You'd certainly want to protect him from the "kooks",
right?

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AVENGER quote:
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Originally posted by randyvettes
May I ask why you posted my personal info? I'd
appreciate it if you would delete it. I really don't
need kooks calling or visiting.

Registered: Feb 2007


Location: This is hell. Stop your whining.
Posts: 679
Some favorite p*g quotes. How many times have you repeated
these with a stupid grin on your smug, lying face? Now go look in
the mirror and repeat them again.
"You get what you give."
"If you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to worry about."
"We protect and serve."

Clearly, you can't even protect yourself, much less anyone else, and
you serve only yourself, you narcissistic kook.
By the way, thanks for confirming your address, genius.

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convicted."
Sir William Blackstone, paraphrasing Genesis
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Navigatr1 Sorry Randy, but your name and address is public information.
Extended Sabatical Anybody with an Internet connection, and are web savvy can find
it. You can either live with it as you have done so far, or you can
always sell your home. Chances are some data mining company will
have your new address, and post it on the Internet free or for a fee.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: The government post peoples addresses all the time, and some
Posts: 31403 weren't even convicted of a crime. In Ohio for instance, a civil judge
has to decide that a crime more than likely happened even though
the person wasn't convicted in a criminal court. The state of of Ohio
then publishes that person's information on the Internet along with
their picture. Any kook as you put it can use this information.

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If you were ever arrested for anything, your address and other
information can be gotten through a public record's request. A lot of
sheriff offices and courts are even putting this information online
now including addresses.

http://theultimates.whitepages.com/...fid=n&ft=b%3C=b

home

Randy J & Carol P Mucha


7721 Williams St
Darien, IL 60561-4429

phone number unavailable

* Ages: 45-49, unavailable

Listing date Aug. 2007

The thing a lot of people forget about the Internet is that


information becomes public when they themselves post it.
http://www.indie911.com/index.php?cID=96941

quote:

randyvettes's Details

Basic Info
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Status: Married
Orientation: Straight
Religion: Christian - other
Zodiac: Leo
Hometown: West burbs of Chicago
Schools: Yep
Occupation: Several

Personal Info
Interests: Corvette Racing and Digital Photography
Tattoos: Three
Piercings: One
Favorite Sports: Auto Racing
Favorite Music: Indie Rock Pop
Favorite Movies: Comedy
Favorite Drink: Bacardi and Diet with a lime
Favorite Color: Teal

Posting your address is nothing personal. There are lots of cops


addresses posted on this website, which were found through public
sources. So you are not being signaled out.

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
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From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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GC Marciano Hmmm... could it be one of these two homes?


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Attachment: 1.jpg
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on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
Registered: Jul 2003 officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
Location: Chicago, Illinois officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
Posts: 9967 state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

All statements and opinions expressed are my personal opinions and are not
to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
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liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by GC505
Hmmm... could it be one of these two homes?

Not on any "honest" low-level cop's salary.

Registered: Jun 2005


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Location: Tucson, AZ "Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated
Posts: 5865 powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." -
Thomas Jefferson

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"And this brings us to a point that has to be driven home with


the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its
freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
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AVENGER quote:
Senior Member
Originally posted by liberranter
Not on any "honest" low-level cop's salary.

True, but most cops, and certain cops in particular, have an


Registered: Feb 2007 inferiority complex which leads them to refer to themselves in the
Location: This is hell. third person as if they're being funny or original. Causes them to
Posts: 679 attempt to dominate others by stacking the odds in their cowardly
favor. And forces them to spend their loot on Corvettes and other
cliché status symbols so that no one will suspect that they have a
tiny johnson.

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"...for I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against
every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
Thomas Jefferson
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do
nothing."
Edmund Burke
"Better that ten guilty men go free than one innocent man be
convicted."
Sir William Blackstone, paraphrasing Genesis
Speed, surprise and violence of action.

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Navigatr1 LITIGATION RECAP


Extended Sabatical http://oakbrookcitizens.org/index.p...p=obcbg&prid=16

Federal Court Case No.07C1679

Registered: Jul 2003 Terry O'Malley Plaintiff v.


Location: Kevin Quinlan, Sergeant Randall Mucha,
Posts: 31403 Vg of Oak Brook, defendants

Asks for $500,000+$1,000,000


for alleged Theft of Identity
issue. Alleges that Quinlan's home computer
was utilized in this issue.

Federal Court Case No. 05C2335

Frances V. Gaik and Casey Gaik, Plaintiffs v.


The Village of Oak Brook Police Department,
Oak Brook Officer Randall Mucha, and Oak Brook
Village Prosecutor Joan E. Mullins, defendants

This suit alleges that the above defendants were


members of a conspiracy organized to defame the
Gaiks and the Oak Brook Citizens for Better Government
organization

Settled in favor of the Gaiks for $2,000,000

Federal Court Case No. o6CV5167

Don Malec and Martin Zelisko, Oak Brook Police Officers,


Plaintiffs, v. Oak Brook Police Department, Oak Brook
Police Sergeant Randall Mucha, Oak Brook Police Deputy
Chief Stephen Larson; and Oak Brook Police Sergeant
Tamie Shuey, defendants

Plaintiffs state that they have endured official


harassment, intimidation, and retaliation, for exercising

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their right of free speech regarding political activities


within the Village

Federal Court Case No. 05C2335

Gaiks, Plaintiffs v. Joan E. Mullins , defendant

Suit alleges that Joan E. Mullins, while


functioning as the Oak Brook Village Prosecutor,
engaged in acts detrimental to the Gaiks, and
in violation of their Civil Rights

Subpoenas for depositions have been served


upon Kevin Quinlan, Asif Yusuf, Rick Boehm,
Joan Mullins, Police officer Steve Larson

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owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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05-13-2008 04:26 PM

GC Marciano Randy, where did you go? I thought we could have an


Copwatcher Extraordinaire intelligent debate.

Care to respond to the questions I posed above regarding


published addresses of people charged with a crime?

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Registered: Jul 2003 on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
Location: Chicago, Illinois officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
Posts: 9967 officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

All statements and opinions expressed are my personal opinions and are not

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to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no


authority to bind Copwatch or to act on its behalf. My opinions, ideas,
theories and beliefs are my own and are not necessarily supported,
condoned (or often even appreciated) by Copwatch, it's subsidiaries or
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randyvettes quote:
Junior Member
Originally posted by GC505
Randy, where did you go? I thought we could
have an intelligent debate.
Registered: Aug 2006
Location: IL Care to respond to the questions I posed above
Posts: 15 regarding published addresses of people charged
with a crime?

I never published anyones address. What would you like to debate?

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GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
Originally posted by randyvettes
I never published anyones address. What
would you like to debate?

Very well. I never implied that you have published anybody's


address.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois However, did you write letters (as you did in your situation) to
Posts: 9967
the media requesting or demanding that they remove or stop
publishing the addresses of suspects charged with a crime?
After all, being sworn to "serve and protect" you would not want
the kooks to have that information, right? Think of all the
innocent wives and kids...

...Or did it suddenly become an important issue only when you


became the accused criminal and your home address was
published for all the kooks to see?

This is an honest question, not an attack on you. Please don't


take it as one.

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"The purpose and the principal effect of posting information about bad cops
on the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the
state that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment
resulting from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind
of fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme
Court

All statements and opinions expressed are my personal opinions and are not
to be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
authority to bind Copwatch or to act on its behalf. My opinions, ideas,
theories and beliefs are my own and are not necessarily supported,
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agents.

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05-15-2008 04:57 AM

photoman http://truthinjustice.org/mucha/forceful-impact.htm
Senior Member
Someone needs to keep tabs on you Mucha!
Registered: Aug 2006 Is this one of your relatives?
Location: Under your bed...
Posts: 875 Jason Ross Mucha
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...highlight=mucha

Andrew R Mucha
http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...highlight=mucha

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Registered: Jul 2003 However, did you write letters (as you did in your
Location: situation) to the media requesting or demanding that
Posts: 31403 they remove or stop publishing the addresses of
suspects charged with a crime? After all, being sworn to
"serve and protect" you would not want the kooks to
have that information, right? Think of all the innocent
wives and kids...

...Or did it suddenly become an important issue only


when you became the accused criminal and your home

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address was published for all the kooks to see?

Randy hasn't responded to your question yet. He participated in


Internet stings, which resulted in people's addresses being posted
on the Internet by the government. Perhaps some are subject to
lifetime posting. I wonder how many people Randy got their
addresses published on the Internet by the government. Bet he
wasn't concerned about their wives or kids. Seems it only became
an issue when he became the criminal.

Chances are Randy, you will get into Child pornography since
officers who participate in investigating child pornography or chat
stings often become addicted to the stuff themselves. I am not
accusing you of having child porn. All I am stating is that you may
have a problem or have a problem in the future as a result of your
enforcement duties.

Your address is public information Randy as I have shown you.


Anybody can find it with very little effort. The courts have ruled that
posting address with criminal records is not unconstitutional, and
does not violate double jeopardy or ex post facto laws. Ohio has
even taken the step of publishing peoples addresses merely for
being accused of a crime even if they weren't convicted of it.
Moreover, newspapers commonly publish peoples addresses if they
are accused of a crime.

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Navigatr1 Good work photoman on finding those other Mucha's up in


Extended Sabatical Wisconsin. I wonder if they are relatives too. Milwaukee and
Chicago are close enough together that they could indeed be
relatives of Randy's. The Mucha clan up in Wisconsin sure have
been in trouble with the courts. Just enter Mucha for the last name,
Registered: Jul 2003 and pick an initial for the first name. I haven't been able to figure
Location: out how to access every person with the same last name using a
Posts: 31403 wild card.
http://wcca.wicourts.gov/index.xsl

I didn't see any records listed for Randy in the Wisconsin Circuit
Court Access website. Keep in mind that not all records have been
put in online. It is possible he could be listed under another name.
There were no listings for Randall or Randolph either, which are
more formal forms of Randy.

--Navigatr1

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chitownbrian If nothing else, I give Randy credit for two things: Having a sense
Senior Member of humor in regard to the cock fighting story, and having the ability
to have conversation with us here. Most cops freak out, swear and
Registered: Nov 2004 get all uptight, at least Randy is civil in the thread.
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 103 Randy, if you are still responding, what is the status of your lawsuit
against Oak Broook and Sheahan? <~~~A known P.O.S.

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randyvettes I am not related to any Mucha's in Wisconsin. (Hint - try Florida).


Junior Member
My suit against Sheahan is moving slowly but surely through the
federal court system. We have been waiting for a month for the
Judge to rule on some motions. It will likely be 2 years before it
Registered: Aug 2006 reaches a jury.
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COPWATCH.com Forum - Honored DUI cop John Haleas charged; 3 officers accused of lying about arrests

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Honored DUI cop charged


3 officers accused of lying about arrests
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: April 16, 2008
Posts: 31403 Recommend

BY ERIC HERMAN Criminal Courts Reporter/eherman@suntimes.com

Three Chicago cops -- including one honored for arresting more


drunken drivers than any other Illinois officer -- face felony charges
for allegedly lying about arrests they made.

John Haleas, who won accolades for making DUI arrests, is

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charged with official misconduct, obstruction of justice, and perjury


in an April 9 grand jury indictment -- as first reported on suntimes.
com. He will appear in court April 25.

"I'm going to deal with it in court," Haleas, 37, told the Sun-Times
at his Northwest Side home Tuesday.

Charged separately are officers Michael Bernichio and Daniel


Murphy, partners from the Chicago Lawn District who have
been charged with official misconduct and other offenses. Haleas,
Bernichio and Murphy each face up to five years in prison if
convicted.

Haleas' lawyer Robert Kuzas defended the officer as a "very


honorable man."

"I don't believe the state will be able to sustain the charges brought
against him. And he's looking forward to vindicating himself," Kuzas
said.

Prosecutors and a spokesman for the Cook County state's


attorney's office declined to comment. Bernichio and Murphy could
not be reached.

Haleas was honored three times by the Schaumburg-based Alliance


Against Intoxicated Motorists as the police officer with the most DUI
busts in Illinois. But last October, the Cook County state's
attorney's office dropped about 50 DUI cases in which Haleas had
been the arresting officer and said as many as 500 cases could be
in jeopardy.

A spokesman for the state's attorney's office said then that Haleas
failed to follow proper procedures during an April 9, 2005, arrest
witnessed by two prosecutors. The indictment focuses on that same
arrest -- of Edward Beck of the 5000 block of West Chicago Ave.
Charges against Beck were later dropped.

According to the indictment, Haleas falsely reported Beck failed a


field sobriety test. Haleas allegedly wrote false traffic citations, the
indictment states, and lied about Beck taking the "one leg stand"
test, the "walk and turn" test, and the finger-to-nose test. In fact,
Haleas "did not administer any field sobriety tests," the indictment
says.

Prosecutors faced pressure to charge Haleas by April 9 of this year,


since the offenses carry a three-year statute of limitations.
Additional charges are possible, a source said.

Last year, Noe Martinez sued Haleas in federal court, claiming the
officer arrested him before he even started his car. The suit seeks
class-action status. "We have numerous plaintiffs against Haleas,"
said Martinez's lawyer, Michael Oppenheimer.

The charges against Bernichio and Murphy stem from a 2004 arrest

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in which they allegedly filled out police reports charging two


different men in the same incident.

Haleas is still on the police force but will be relieved of his police
powers, said police spokeswoman Monique Bond. He had been on
full duty until Tuesday. Bernichio and Murphy have already been
stripped of their police powers, she said.

Chicago Police Officer John Haleas hides behind the door of


his Northwest Side home on Tuesday.
(Chris Sweda/Sun-Times)
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Navigatr1 Cop Accused of Fake DUI Arrests Pleads Not Guilty


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Posted: Tuesday, 29 April 2008 1:22PM

Cop Accused of Fake DUI Arrests Pleads Not Guilty


Registered: Jul 2003 http://www.wbbm780.com/Cop-Accused-...-Guilty/2092542
Location:
Posts: 31403 CHICAGO (CHICAGO) -- Chicago Police Officer John Haleas pleaded
not guilty Tuesday to charges of perjury, official misconduct and
obstruction of justice.
Haleas, 37, entered the plea before Cook County Judge James
Obbish, according to Andy Conklin, spokesman for the Cook County
State's Attorney's office.

On Friday, Cook County Judge Vince Gaughan removed himself


from the official misconduct and perjury case. No reason was given

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for the recusal.

Haleas was once honored for arresting more drunken drivers than
any officer in the state.

He now faces four counts of perjury, four counts of official


misconduct and two counts of obstruction of justice.

Haleas allegedly failed to follow proper procedures during an April


9, 2005, arrest witnessed by two prosecutors, a state's attorney's
office spokesman said.

The indictment focuses on that same arrest -- of Edward Beck of


the 5000 block of West Chicago Ave. Charges against Beck were
later dropped.

According to the indictment filed April 9, Haleas falsely reported


Beck failed a field sobriety test. He allegedly wrote false traffic
citations, the indictment states, and lied about Beck taking the "one-
leg stand" test, the "walk-and-turn" test, and the finger-to-nose
test.

In fact, Haleas "did not administer any field sobriety tests," the
indictment says.

Haleas had still been on the police force but will be relieved of his
police powers, News Affairs Director Monique Bond said following
his indictment.

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their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Navigatr1 Chicago police officer indicted


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Chicago police officer indicted


http://www.fortmilltimes.com/124/story/148759.html

Registered: Jul 2003 (Published April 30, 2008)


Location:
Posts: 31403 CHICAGO — Cook County prosecutors say a Chicago police officer
accused of falsifying information in drunken driving arrests ignored
numerous critical steps in making a legitimate drunken driving
arrest in April 2005.

Court documents filed Tuesday revealed the man arrested by


Officer John Haleas registered a blood-alcohol content of 0.334.
That is a level of intoxication at which people can lose
consciousness or, in some cases, die.

The man's DUI conviction was tossed out because of Haleas'


misconduct.

Prosecutors say the missteps by Haleas ultimately led to his own


indictment and the dismissal of 156 of his previous DUI arrests.

Haleas had been honored for making more DUI arrests than any
other police officer in Illinois. The 12-year veteran is charged with
perjury, official misconduct and obstruction of justice.

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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
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Navigatr1 Prosecutors detail case against Chicago's top DUI cop


Extended Sabatical

Prosecutors detail case against Chicago's top DUI cop


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...1,4407331.story

Registered: Jul 2003 By David Heinzmann | Tribune reporter


Location: 11:11 PM CDT, April 29, 2008
Posts: 31403
With two fellow officers and two young prosecutors looking on,
Chicago Police Officer John Haleas ignored numerous critical steps
in making a legitimate drunken driving arrest in April 2005, a string
of missteps that ultimately led to his own indictment, Cook County
prosecutors say.

At Haleas' arraignment Tuesday, prosecutors released new details


about the Northwest Side traffic stop that led to criminal charges
against Chicago's top DUI cop and the dismissal of 156 of his
previous DUI arrests by the Cook County state's attorney.

Haleas made 718 arrests in 2005 and 2006 and was the primary
witness in hundreds of DUI cases, garnering for himself a "Top Cop"
honor from the Alliance Against Intoxicated Motorists for having
more DUI arrests than any other officer in the state.

But according to prosecutors, Haleas didn't bother to perform a field


sobriety test, and lied in his reports and claimed he had followed
procedures.

Court documents filed Tuesday also revealed that the man arrested
that night registered a blood-alcohol content of 0.334, a level of
intoxication at which people can lose consciousness or, in some
cases, die.

The man's DUI conviction was tossed out because of Haleas'


misconduct.

"Somebody that blows a 0.334 is significantly under the influence of


alcohol and well beyond impairment to drive a vehicle," Haleas'
lawyer, Robert Kuzas, said Tuesday. "We're happy Haleas was able
to make this arrest, and hopefully this person will never harm
anyone."

Haleas was charged last month with four counts of perjury, four
counts of official misconduct and two counts of obstructing justice.
He was stripped of his police powers after police learned of the
charges. The department had given Haleas a one-day suspension
and sent him back to work after investigating the allegations.

The prosecutors were riding with Haleas the night of the arrest as
part of their training. The Grand-Central District officers who made
the traffic stop called Haleas to determine whether to write the
driver a DUI.

Shortly after the arrest, the state's attorney's office asked police to

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investigate Haleas when his arrest report did not match what
happened.

dheinzmann@tribune.com

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http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/...t010808.article

Registered: Jul 2003 January 8, 2008


Location: BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter/fspielman@suntimes.com
Posts: 31403
Newly appointed Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis vowed Monday to
overhaul the Police Department’s Internal Affairs Division, hold
“roundtables” to investigate police shootings only after all of the
facts are in and punish even the most minor police infractions to
“set the tone” of zero-tolerance.

Weis said his No. 1 priority is to strengthen training and implement

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a system of punishment that’s fair, consistent and swift to restore


public confidence shaken by allegations of excessive force, barroom
brawls involving off-duty officers and an ongoing scandal in the
disbanded Special Operations Section.

He talked about rotating investigators into and out of IAD so


nobody gets too comfortable or too cynical, and about placing one
person in charge of “everything that shapes the culture” of the
department — from training and IAD to field monitoring and audits.

On the hot seat for nearly five hours at his City Council confirmation
hearing, Weis promised to fire any officer accused of “lying,
cheating, stealing, corruption and brutality.” But, he also talked
about sweating the small stuff — by punishing even the most minor
infractions.

“All too often, a sergeant or lieutenant may say, ‘That’s not a big
deal. We’ll let that go.’ It may be a very minor violation. But, that
does sometimes set the tone that . . . misconduct is gonna be
condoned or accepted. . . . People will then feel free to . . . keep
getting a little more bold and a little more bold,” said Weis, 50.

Promising a new era of accountability for police brass, Weis said,


“When I ask a sergeant, ‘What’s your job?’ I want him or her to
say, ‘To keep police officers out of trouble.’ I need them to be the
moms and dads of the department — to walk around and make
sure that our men and women are behaving themselves. . . . If an
officer screws up . . . what I’m gonna be looking for is that sergeant
and say, ‘How did that happen? Where were you in all this?’”

Weis is the career FBI agent chosen by Mayor Daley last month to
replace both retired Supt. Phil Cline and former Chief Emergency
Officer Cortez Trotter.

Daley was so enamored with Weis and his ability to deliver the
Police Department from the abyss of corruption and brutality
allegations, he agreed to pay the new superintendent $310,000 and
lock him in to a term that ends after the 2011 mayoral election.

Under tough questioning from aldermen, Weis vowed to assemble a


diverse command staff comprised of police insiders, but made no
promise to appoint an African-American as his first deputy.

He vowed to deploy officers “where the crime is” and to reassign to


street duty officers “hiding out” at police headquarters and on
medical rolls. But, he made no promise to realign police beats —
something Daley has resisted for years.

As the first outsider to serve as superintendent in nearly 50 years,


Weis acknowledged that he enters the job with a “certain degree of
apprehension. . . . This is not gonna be an easy job. I recognize
that.”

Ald. Edward M. Burke (14th) only added to that trepidation when he

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said, “It is not a job that has a great deal of tenure. In fact, some
would describe it as . . . like sitting on top of a keg of dynamite with
the fuse getting shorter every day.”

But, the alderman also said, “I really liked hearing you say that
you’re gonna go out and run with the recruits and that you’re gonna
be out there at 2 o’clock in the morning having coffee with cops
working the midnight shift. . . . Once members of the department
get to know that you’re not asking them to do anything that you
won’t do yourself, you’ll be a great success.”

Jody Weis, the career FBI agent chosen by Mayor Daley to


become the city's new police superintendent, was on the hot
seat at his City Council confirmation hearing Monday.
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TheJackel Right, he is going to hold Police accountable... That coming from an


DOUGHNUT MAKER - cream ex-FBI agent sounds like lip service to try and pull the wool further
with that sir? over the publics eyes!
We will be watching how JODY cleans up the city of corrupt cops
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GC Marciano I don't believe a single word that this corruption-riddled FBI


Copwatcher Extraordinaire agent says.

Do some research into his history. He is as corrupt as they


come.

We are doomed.

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SEX & RELATIONSHIPS | Using badge to force sex is simply rape
http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/...erman21.article
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Location: January 21, 2008
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BY LAURA BERMAN laura@bermancenter.com

An open letter to Jody Weis, new superintendent of the Chicago


Police Department:

Welcome to our city! It is wonderful to have such an experienced


and committed leader working for the safety and well-being of
Chicagoans.

I am particularly excited by your promise to bring law enforcement


to the law itself. During your Jan. 7 speech to the City Council, you
stated: "I want to institute policies that help prevent misconduct in
the department whenever and wherever it occurs and restore public
faith and public trust."

With this intent in mind, I would like to know if you will address one
of the the most egregious issues of misconduct on the police force:
officers who use their position of authority to force women to have
sex with them.

As I am sure you have heard by now, a recent study found that


Chicago prostitutes perform 3 percent of their total sex acts on
Chicago police officers in order to avoid arrest. This study, which
was led by University of Chicago professor Steven D. Levitt and
Columbia University professor Sudhir Venkatesh, found that
prostitutes routinely perform "freebies" for Chicago police officers in
exchange for their freedom.

This is not only illegal, but also highly immoral. Although this
arrangement might be considered "tit-for-tat" by some officers, in
my professional opinion, it is rape.

A situation in which a police officer -- an authority figure in our


society -- threatens to arrest a prostitute if she does not engage in
sex with him is certainly one in which a woman does not feel able to
say no. Even if the threat is not overt, the fact that he has authority
over her makes the threat unmistakable.

It might not be how your officers typically think of rape or how rape
is typically portrayed on the evening news. There is no masked man
slipping in through a half-open window and no virginal girl
screaming for help. Instead, there is just a woman who knows
better than to resist and a man who is used to taking advantage of
his position of authority.

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Without an innocent schoolgirl crying for help in the background, it


is no surprise that the outrage over this matter is lacking. After all,
the prostitute gets to walk free, and it isn't like she is a virgin --
right?

I disagree. Our society has connected the atrocity of rape with a


victim's sexual history for far too long. There is never, absolutely
never, a case in which it is OK to take away a person's freedom to
say no -- no matter how many drinks they've had, no matter how
many sexual partners they've had, no matter what crimes they've
committed, and no matter where they stand on the social spectrum.

As taxpayers, we should not have to support police officers who use


their position of authority to force women to submit to their sexual
advances. Prostitute or not, every woman has the right to be
protected and respected in this city.

Author Eve Ensler once stated, "If you held a woman sacred, you
couldn't murder her or rape her or mutilate her or hurt her." It is
time that all women in this city are held sacred by your men in
blue, regardless of their situation.

While I appreciate the hard work of police officers who put their
lives on the line for citizens every day, there are dishonest and
criminal cops in this city who ought to be fired and punished.

As the man you claim to be, I know you must feel the same -- so
tell me, will you take these rapist officers off our streets? Or will
you stand by and watch as the men in your command continue to
commit the very crimes we hire them to prevent?

Sincerely,

Laura Berman, Ph.D.

Hear Laura Berman at 7:30 a.m. Thursdays on WBBM-FM (96.3).

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Location:
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commanders in 21 of the city's 25 districts. Police spokeswoman
Monique Bond said new appointments also include Belmont Area
Cmdr. Thomas Byrne to chief of detectives and former Internal
Affairs Division head Debra Kirby to general counsel. The move
continues a leadership shakeup Weis began last month shortly after
taking over the department. Weis formerly led the FBI's
Philadelphia office. He inherited a police department rocked by
allegations of brutality and misconduct.

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Senior Member deal. We’ll let that go.’ It may be a very minor violation. But, that
does sometimes set the tone that . . . misconduct is gonna be
condoned or accepted. . . . People will then feel free to . . . keep
getting a little more bold and a little more bold,' said Weis, 50."

Yeah, he's probably full of sh*t, but this guy's a freakin' rocket
scientist compared to his peers.

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chitownbrian Three Cicero Cops Indicted For Beatings


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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...,1,409046.story
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 103
3 Cicero Police Officers Indicted
Civil Rights Abuses, Conspiracy Alleged

By Jeff Coen and Sara Olkon


Tribune staff reporters

October 18, 2006

In one incident alleged in an indictment, Cicero police officers beat


a man and then ordered him to use his own shirt to wipe up the
blood. In another, a supervisor beat a woman after a traffic stop,

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then a passerby who had videotaped the beating.

The allegations were detailed in a federal indictment unsealed


Tuesday that accused three officers, one a former deputy
superintendent, of committing civil rights abuses and conspiring to
cover them up.

James DiSantis, 41, of Riverside; William Peslak, 35, of Downers


Grove; and Joseph DeKiel, 37, of Palos Park appeared in federal
court unshaven and in street clothes after their early morning
arrests. Each pleaded not guilty and will be kept in custody pending
detention hearings Friday.

Lawyers for DiSantis and DeKiel declined to comment. Peslak's


attorney, Michael Gillespie, said his client would fight the charges.

Assistant U.S. Atty. Sergio Acosta said the men sometimes acted
together and sometimes individually in the abuse of five people,
including some who already have sued Cicero and the officers in
cases settled by the town. Prosecutors said the men planted
evidence and testified falsely to cover up their actions.

In one incident in 2003, DeKiel is alleged to have broken a victim's


nose after a traffic stop, and he and DiSantis beat the man at the
police station, with DiSantis striking him with a handgun, the
indictment says.

Peslak then allegedly planted cocaine on the man, the federal


indictment states, and the man was falsely charged with possession
of a controlled substance.

At the end of the incident the officers allegedly ordered the victim,
Floyd Wilson, "to use the shirt [the victim] was wearing to clean up
his own blood that had run onto the floor as a result of the injuries
inflicted by defendants," the indictment says.

DiSantis, a 20-year police veteran, was deputy superintendent of


the Cicero department at the time, authorities said. DeKiel and
Peslak were on the department's gang unit.

Wilson said he was relieved to hear that criminal charges had been
filed.

"It's been a long three years," Wilson said. "I finally got a big
weight off my shoulders. I don't have to fear for myself and my
family."

In another incident that year, DiSantis was accused of beating a


woman after a traffic stop and then pulling over and beating a man
who had videotaped it as he went by in a car.

Those victims filed a suit that also has been settled, records show.
DiSantis broke the camera after the second traffic stop, according
to that suit, and then asked for the camera's "memory stick."

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"When the plaintiff explained to him the camera did not have a
`memory stick,' DiSantis hit the plaintiff in the face with the
camera, causing lacerations, bruising, soreness and swelling,"
according to the suit.

In a third incident, DiSantis confronted a public pool employee who


refused to let his family swim for free, authorities said.

"DiSantis knocked the victim to the ground, where DiSantis hit the
victim in the head with his police badge and ultimately threw the
victim into the swimming pool," Acosta said.

The attacks were not believed to be racially motivated, prosecutors


said. Each officer faces up to 10 years in prison if convicted.

Cicero spokesman Dan Proft said the officers were on active duty as
of the day of their arrests, despite past accusations against them.
The town ended internal investigations two years ago as federal
authorities moved in, he said, and could not fire them because of
union rules. DiSantis was on administrative leave from Jan. 6 to
April 1, 2005.

In February 2005, DiSantis told the Tribune he was under


investigation.

"Either indict me or give me my job back," he said at the time, as


he was being put on leave. "I'm 100 percent confident I will be
vindicated."

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liberranter Re: Three Cicero Cops Indicted For Beatings


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Originally posted by chitownbrian

Cicero spokesman Dan Proft said the officers were on


active duty as of the day of their arrests, despite past
accusations against them. The town ended internal
investigations two years ago as federal authorities
moved in, he said, and could not fire them because of
union rules.

Registered: Jun 2005 Yet another example of why cops (or any other public-sector
Location: Tucson, AZ employees) should not be allowed to unionize.
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In February 2005, DiSantis told the Tribune he was under
investigation.

"Either indict me or give me my job back," he said at the

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time, as he was being put on leave. "I'm 100 percent


confident I will be vindicated."

And as predictable for someone of your zoological stupidity,


your confidence was grossly misplaced. Congratulations,
asshole! I hope you enjoy your time in the slammer (hopefully
in GenPop).

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GC Marciano Doesn't surprise me, Cicero is a shithole on par with Harvey and
Copwatcher Extraordinaire their "police force" is just as corrupt.

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Metro briefs

October 21, 2006


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A federal judge released three Cicero police officials in lieu of bail


Friday on charges of beating suspects, planting evidence and lying
on the witness stand. James DiSantis, a former deputy
superintendent demoted to sergeant, was freed on $200,000 after
his sister put up her house as collateral. He was ordered into home
confinement. William Peslak of Downers Grove and Joseph DeKiel of
Palos Park, members of the gang tactical unit, were released in lieu
of $200,000 bail and $150,000 bail, respectively, after putting up
their homes as collateral. Peslak and DeKiel will have paying jobs in
Cicero that do not involve police work, attorneys said. All three
officials were arrested Tuesday.

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I hope they test these accused criminals for steroids.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...i_business_util

Registered: Jul 2003 By Sara Olkon | Tribune staff reporter


Location: 10:19 PM CDT, August 29, 2007
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A former Cicero police officer who smashed a man's face against a
car during a traffic stop was sentenced to five months in prison
Wednesday by a federal judge in Chicago.

On Aug. 9, 2003, then-Officer William Peslak pulled over Michael F.


Dominick. Peslak later said he wasn't provoked before he roughed
up Dominick. Peslak then charged Dominick with resisting arrest
and hauled him off to jail.

Dominick, who received five stiches for his wounds, told the court in
a letter that the episode haunts him.

"I have had numerous nightmares of being killed or beaten so much


that I am paralyzed, and no one should have to live like that," he
wrote.

In June, Peslak, 36, pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor civil-rights


violation for using excessive force under color of law. He had faced
up to a year in prison.

Peslak's partner, Joseph DeKiel, was not on the scene during the
traffic stop, but he lied and pretended that he was in order to
corroborate Peslak's story. DeKiel had testified under oath against

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Dominick.

Also in June, DeKiel, 39, pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts


of being an accessory after the fact of the civil-rights violation by
committing perjury. He could have received up to six months in
prison, but U.S. District Court Judge Charles Kocoras sentenced him
to two months.

Both men have been stripped of their badges and are scheduled to
surrender to authorities on Oct. 9.

Cicero spokesman Dan Proft said he hoped the sentences "serve as


a cautionary example to other law enforcement for the judicious
use of police power in Cicero and in the Chicagoland area."

solkon@tribune.com

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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U. S. Department of Justice

United States Attorney


Registered: Jul 2003 Northern District of Illinois
Location: Patrick J. Fitzgerald
Posts: 31403
Federal Building
United States Attorney
219 South Dearborn Street, Fifth Floor
Chicago, Illinois 60604
(312) 353-5300

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


TUESDAY OCTOBER 17, 2006
www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln

PRESS CONTACT:
AUSA Brandon Fox
(312)353-5277
AUSA Sergio Acosta
(312)353-1415
AUSA/PIO Randall Samborn (312) 353-5318

THREE CICERO POLICE OFFICERS ARRESTED ON FEDERAL


CIVIL RIGHTS
CHARGES ALLEGING BEATINGS, PLANTING EVIDENCE, AND
PERJURY
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/pr/ch...6/pr1017_01.pdf

CHICAGO – Three current police officers in west suburban Cicero


were arrested today on
federal civil rights charges for allegedly victimizing five individuals
in a series of incidents between
2002 and 2004, federal officials announced. A federal grand jury
indictment unsealed following the
arrests alleges that the officers – acting at times together, as a pair

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or individually – engaged in
physical beatings and falsifying evidence and testimony against the
victims, announced Patrick J.
Fitzgerald, United States Attorney for the Northern District of
Illinois, and Robert D. Grant, Special
Agent-in-Charge of the Chicago Office of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation.
The defendants, James DiSantis, who was deputy superintendent of
the Cicero Police
Department at the time of the incidents, and William Peslakand
Joseph DeKiel, both then assigned
to the department’s gang tactical unit, were charged in an eight-
count indictment that was returned
under seal on Oct. 5. DiSantis, 41, of Riverside, was charged with
four counts of committing civil
rights abuses and one count of conspiracy. Peslak, 35, of Downers
Grove, was charged with three
counts of committing civil rights abuses and two counts of
conspiracy. DeKiel, 37, of Palos Park,
was charged with one count of committing civil rights abuses and
two counts of conspiracy.

All three defendants are scheduled to appear at 10:30 a.m. today


before U.S. Magistrate
Judge Geraldine Soat Brown in U.S. District Court.
All eight counts of the indictment allege that the officers violated
the victims’ civil rights by
“acting under color of law,” meaning through their official capacity
as police officers. The charges
do not allege that the violations had anything to do with the victims’
race or ethnicity or that they
were discriminated against on any such basis.
According to the indictment, all three defendants combined to
abuse the civil rights of an
individual, identified as Victim W, of Cicero, on August 10, 2003.
Specifically, it alleges that after
a traffic stop, DeKiel broke Victim W’s nose when he struck Victim
W’s head against a car. After
bringing Victim W to the Cicero Police Department, DeKiel and
DiSantis continued to beat Victim
W in an interview room, the indictment alleges, and eventually,
DiSantis struck Victim W in the
head with a handgun. Also in the interview room, Peslak allegedly
planted cocaine on Victim W.
The officers then ordered Victim W to clean up his own blood using
the shirt off of his own back.
On the previous day, August 9, 2003, Peslak allegedly was involved
in a beating of another
individual motorist, identified in the indictment as Victim D, striking
Victim D’s head against a car
after pulling it over. Peslak and DeKiel then allegedly conspired to
present false evidence at Victim
D’s criminal trial on Feb. 18, 2004, by agreeing to have DeKiel

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falsely corroborate Peslak’s account


of the altercation when DeKiel was even not even present during
the incident.
DiSantis alone was charged with civil rights abuses involving two
different victims on
September 3, 2003. Specifically, the indictment alleges that he
pulled over a car driven by a
homeless individual, identified as Victim P, and struck her in the
head. When another individual,

identified as Victim M, observed and attempted to videotape this


incident, DiSantis struck Victim
M in the head, the indictment alleges.
DiSantis was also charged with striking another individual, identified
as Victim C, with his
police badge and knocking Victim C to the ground on June 27,
2003, after Victim C refused
DiSantis’ family access to a Cicero public swimming pool without
paying the required fee.
The government is being represented by Assistant U.S. Attorneys
Brandon Fox and Sergio
Acosta.
If convicted, each count carries a maximum penalty of 10 years in
prison and a maximum
fine of $250,000. The Court, however, would determine the
appropriate sentence to be imposed.
The public is reminded that an indictment contains only charges and
is not evidence ofguilt.
The defendants are presumed innocent and are entitled to a fair
trial at which the government has
the burden of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

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Months of turmoil within the Richmond Police Department came to a


head this week as officials fired the chief and put an officer on paid
leave, while bracing for a federal lawsuit against the village by a
man who says off-duty police beat him.

Village President Kevin Brusek said Thursday that he fired Chief

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Roger Szewczyk on Tuesday for "insubordination," and


interim Chief Scott St. John placed Officer Brian Quilici on
paid leave Wednesday.

Both moves come after a Spring Grove man filed a federal lawsuit
Monday against the village, Quilici and others.

The lawsuit, filed in Rockford, alleges that Quilici, while off duty,
participated in a brawl Feb. 20 outside a bar that left the Spring
Grove man severely injured.

Ryan Hallett, 25, says in the suit that Quilici was one of three off-
duty police officers who handcuffed him and "took turns beating
him, causing severe injuries ... and ultimately requiring the
installation of a plate in his head."

Hallett stopped at a tavern near Fox Lake the evening of Feb. 20 to


meet a co-worker. When he arrived, he saw the co-worker in a
"heated verbal dispute" with the officers and an unidentified
woman, according to the lawsuit.

Outside the bar, the officers confronted Hallett and "beat him with
their fists, knees and boots," the lawsuit says. During the beating,
one of the officers "viciously kicked [Hallett] in the face, shattering
the orbital bone surrounding his right eye," the suit says.

The suit lists two unnamed officers from Spring Grove and the
McHenry County Sheriff's Department as defendants.

Also listed as defendants are the unidentified woman involved in the


dispute, the Villages of Richmond and Spring Grove and Officer
Quilici.

McHenry County Sheriff Keith Nygren said Thursday that his


deputy--whom he would not name--arrived at the scene of the
altercation in uniform, after it was over, to assist Fox Lake police.

"We shouldn't even be in the lawsuit," Nygren said. "We got there
like 25 minutes after this was over."

The lawsuit refers to a "code of silence" within McHenry County


police departments that allows misconduct by officers to go
unpunished--a claim the lawsuit does not back up with specific
examples.

But Village President Brusek, who supervises the Richmond police


chief, said that code has hampered his relationship with Chief
Szewczyk.

Brusek said he learned of the altercation only after the suit was
filed. He said he had already decided not to reappoint Szewczyk as
chief when his term expired May 1 because of similar instances of
poor communication.

But he acknowledged that the lawsuit helped spur Szewczyk's

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termination this week.

"The culture of secrecy--I was a victim of it," Brusek said Thursday.


"I was not told about the officer being involved in this incident."

Szewczyk has been with the department for 15 years and was
appointed chief in May 1999. He earned a salary of $54,740. He
declined to comment when reached at home Thursday.

Quilici, who earns $36,665 and joined the police department in


February 2002, could not be reached for comment.

Spring Grove Police Chief Donald Regnier and Village President


Robert Martens also could not be reached Thursday.

Brusek would not go into detail about what he called Szewczyk's


"insubordination." He said it mostly involved the chief's refusal to
notify him about incidents involving the department.

"There was a discussion about some of the things that were going
on that were wrong," Brusek said. "I concluded it wasn't going to
get any better."

Brusek would not comment about the involvement of Quilici in the


brawl.

Quilici turned in his badge Wednesday, Brusek said. He will remain


on paid leave while Illinois State Police investigate.

McHenry County State's Atty. Lou Bianchi said that could take two
or three weeks. When that probe is complete, Bianchi's office will
decide whether any charges are warranted--possibly against Hallett
or the officers involved.

Hallett's lawyer, Jon Loevy of Chicago, on Thursday said that


attitude smacks of intimidation--a suggestion that Hallett could face
charges nearly a month after the altercation.

"We're very troubled that they've turned this around," said Loevy.

"They had a dispute in a bar," Loevy said. "But they had a badge
and took it too far."

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beating a man last year claim that a prosecutor broke the law by
discussing deliberations with a grand juror who indicted the men.

The allegations are the latest by defense attorneys seeking to have


the indictments against former police officers Jerome Volstad, Brian
Quilici and Ronald Pilati thrown out.

"We now have a kaleidoscope of problems with these grand-jury

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proceedings," said Dane Loizzo, who represents Pilati. "The whole


thing is a carnival."

Nichole Owens, criminal division chief for the state's attorney's


office, said she never discussed the proceedings with a grand juror.
She said she only asked the juror whether he would be willing to
prepare a sworn statement of his account of the proceedings.

Quilici, Pilati, Volstad and co-defendant Jessica Thelen were charged


with aggravated battery and mob action in connection with the Feb.
20, 2005, beating of Ryan Hallett outside KC's Cabin, a bar near
Fox Lake.

Volstad is a former Lincolnshire officer, Quilici is a former Richmond


officer, and Pilati used to work for the Spring Grove Police
Department.

The officers' attorneys have alleged that the indictments were


tainted because jurors were intimidated by a state police
investigator who was present during deliberations, rolling his eyes
and making other gestures during certain testimony, and that there
were other people in the proceedings who should not have been
there.

In response to those claims, Owens filed a motion asking a court


reporter to provide a written affidavit of what she remembers about
the grand jury deliberations.

Owens also said that a grand juror recently had written the state's
attorney's office and said he could provide information about what
occurred.

Owens said that she called the juror and asked him if he could fill
out a similar affidavit if it was requested.

"We have to prove that [Illinois State Police Special Agent William
Kroncke] did not influence the grand jury and who better to do that
than a grand juror," Owens said in court.

But the defendants' attorneys said that, according to Owens'


motion, she had a discussion with the juror regarding the hearings.
That discussion violated state law, they said.

"She had no right to contact that grand juror when it is specifically


barred by statute," said Alfred Stavros, who represents Volstad.
"[Owens] just made herself a witness."

The defense attorneys said that because Owens could be called as a


witness in this case, they might have to ask that the entire McHenry
County state's attorney's office be removed from the case.

"Not only do we have the grand juror who faces contempt charges
for talking about the deliberations," Loizzo said, "but we also have
the criminal chief of the state's attorney's office facing contempt
charges."

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The next hearing in the case is scheduled for March 8.

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Posted Saturday, June 30, 2007

Defense attorneys’ efforts to remove McHenry County’s chief


criminal prosecutor from the case of two ex-police officers charged
with brutally beating a man in an off-duty bar fight were denied
Friday.

Judge Joseph Condon ruled Nichole Owens could remain on the case
since defense lawyers likely would be unable to make her a witness
for their side during the upcoming trial.

“I cannot envision a circumstance in which the assistant state’s


attorney would be permitted to testify at (the defense’s)
insistence,” the judge ruled.

Defense attorneys wanted Owens removed from the case so they


could call her to testify about grand jury testimony given leading up
to the former officers’ indictment.

The ruling came on the same day Condon agreed to postpone the

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trial of the former Spring Grove police officers on charges stemming


from a February 2005 altercation outside KC’s Cabin in Fox Lake.

Ronald Pilati, 35, of South Barrington, and Jerome Volstad, 42, of


Cary, each face felony charges including aggravated battery, mob
action and unlawful restraint stemming from the fight in which
authorities claim they handcuffed and beat a Wisconsin man so
severely he suffered a fractured eye socket.

Both deny the charges, saying they acted in self-defense when the
man pulled a knife on them in the tavern’s parking lot. Along with
Jessica Thelen, a bar patron authorities say participated in the fight,
the former police officers had been scheduled to go to trial July 16.

Condon agreed to a continuance Friday after defense lawyers


claimed prosecutors may have hidden evidence crucial to the
defense.

The delay, however, may be short-lived. Several hours after


Condon granted the delay, prosecutors unearthed documents
showing they had turned the evidence over to defense lawyers not
once, but twice, since July 2005.

Now prosecutors plan to return to court Monday morning asking


Condon to reinstate the July 16 trial date.

A third ex-cop, former Richmond officer Brian Quilici, 35, of Lisle,


last month was sentenced to two years in prison for his part in the
fight. A jury convicted him in August of five felony charges.

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WOODSTOCK – A jury used tainted evidence to decide the guilt or
innocence of two former police officers convicted last month of
beating a man outside a Fox Lake bar in 2005, defense attorneys
said Friday in a call for a new trial.

Ronald Pilati and Jerome Volstad took their first step toward an

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appeal by filing court documents asking a judge to order a new trial


or void the jury’s guilty verdict.

One major issue on which attorneys hinged their request was a 911
audio recording that captured the altercation, which defense
attorneys alleged was edited by police.

The calls were made by both Pilati and Volstad from their cell
phones during the altercation.

If the recordings were played to the jury in their original form,

Defense attorneys said jurors would have heard co-defendant Brian


Quilici yelling “drop the knife you’re under arrest” to victim Ryan
Hallett and Hallett yelling expletives at the group. Hallett denied
that account in his testimony.

That information would corroborate defense’s claims that the


officers tried to subdue Hallett when he pulled a knife and took a
woman hostage.

“The jury received a piece of evidence that was knowingly tainted,”


said Tom Loizzo, an attorney for Pilati. “The court has an ethical
duty to dismiss this case.”

During the trial, after the jury had already heard the incomplete
recording, the new audio was discovered. According to court
transcripts, even prosecutors agreed it was new.

“I agree. I was surprised to hear that language on the CD today,”


said Nichole Owens, criminal chief of the state’s attorney’s office
during the trial. “This case is still open. The jury should hear that.”

At a conference between judge Joseph Condon and the attorneys


about the issue during the trial, Condon said the new information
raised a lot of questions. Defense attorneys asked for a mistrial.

“I don’t know what the answers are and where they will lead, but I
am not prepared to discard everything that has been heard thus far
on this case,” Condon said.

After the cops were found guilty, Volstad’s attorney, Al Stavros,


called for an Attorney General’s investigation into the Illinois State
Police to probe the tampered recording.

Volstad and Pilati both were convicted of aggravated battery, mob


action, unlawful restraint and obstructing justice. When sentenced
Jan. 17, they could get from probation to five years in prison.

Volstad was a former police officer during the altercation and Pilati
was an off-duty Spring Grove police officer.

A third co-defendant, Brian Quilici, a former Richmond police


officer, last year also was convicted of felonies in connection with
the altercation during a separate trial. He received a two-year

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Rejecting claims that authorities tampered with evidence, a judge
Monday denied a new trial for a pair of former McHenry County
police officers convicted of beating a handcuffed man during an off-
duty bar fight three years ago.

Judge Joseph Condon also refused to appoint a special prosecutor


to investigate the defense allegations, leaving ex-Spring Grove
police officers Ronald L. Pilati and Jerome Volstad facing up to five
years in prison when they are sentenced later this week for
aggravated battery, unlawful restraint, mob action and obstructing
justice.

Lawyers for the defendants, who accused prosecutors and police of


editing recordings of 911 calls made during the February 2005
altercation, said they will appeal the decision.

"I'm not going to rest until we get to the bottom of this," Pilati
attorney Thomas Loizzo said.

Volstad, 43, of Cary, and Pilati, 36, of Spring Grove, were found
guilty in November of charges stemming from an early-morning
fracas outside KC's Cabin in Fox Lake.

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Authorities accused them, along with a third now-former police


officer, of attacking Wisconsin resident Ryan Hallett in the bar's
parking lot, putting him in handcuffs and repeatedly punching and
kicking him.

The ex-officers denied doing anything wrong, saying they acted


only after Hallett pulled a knife on them and took hostage a woman
who tried to play peacemaker.

In their motion for a new trial, defense lawyers said a portion of the
911 recordings played for jurors omitted the sound of the former
officers repeatedly telling Hallett he was under arrest during the
incident and Hallett responding with an expletive.

"It corroborates what Pilati and Volstad say (happened) out there,"
Volstad lawyer Alfred Stavros said. "If the jury heard all the
evidence, there would have been a different verdict."

But in an 11-page written ruling issued Monday morning, Condon


said jurors already heard evidence of that exchange through
testimony by Volstad, Pilati and Hallett.

"The recorded shouts of 'You're under arrest' are merely repetitive


of the defendants' testimony on the topic," the judge wrote. "The
shouts are not impeaching of Ryan Hallett because Mr. Hallett did
not contradict defendants on the topic."

Condon dismissed defense claims that prosecutors attempted to


hide the portion of the recordings from them, writing that all
recordings were in the defense's hands at least two months before
the trial and if there was a discrepancy they could have recognized
it then.

The judge also noted that at no point during or since the trial have
Pilati or Volstad specified any words that had been erased from or
added to the recordings.

Both men face punishment ranging from probation to five years in


prison when sentenced Thursday afternoon.

The third ex-officer charged in the incident, Brian Quilici formerly


with the Richmond Police Department, was sentenced to two years
in prison for his involvement.

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Last updated 9:28 pm CT January 03, 2008.

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_detail...D=3797&type=top

CHICAGO (AP) - Governor Rod Blagojevich tried to keep


attention on mass transit funding at a news conference
Registered: Jul 2003 Wednesday and steer it
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967
away from a federal corruption probe that has moved closer to
him.

Blagojevich dismissed questions about the probe, calling them


"tangential" and not relevant to the people of Illinois.

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A court document claims Blagojevich boasted to a key witness


about awarding contracts and other work to boost campaign
fundraising.

Blagojevich, however, said no such conversation took place.

He hasn't been accused of any wrongdoing.

The document was filed in the criminal case of Antoin "Tony"


Rezko, one of Blagojevich's top fundraisers, who is scheduled to
go on trial in February.

Rezko is charged in a fraud scheme that included shaking down


companies that wanted state business.

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CHICAGO (AP) — In a court document released Friday by


federal prosecutors, Gov. Rod Blagojevich boasted that he
"could award contracts, legal work and investment banking" to
encourage campaign fundraising, according to attorneys close
to a corruption investigation.

Registered: Jul 2003 Blagojevich is not quoted by name but is referred to as "Public
Location: Chicago, Illinois Official A" in the document prosecutors issued for the trial of
Posts: 9967 one of the governor's former top fundraisers, but attorneys who
asked not to be named due to grand jury secrecy said
Blagojevich is "Public Official A."

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investigation. His spokeswoman, Abby Ottenhoff, dismissed the


suggestion that the governor was "Public Official A."

"Based on the description in the filing, it is not the governor,"


she said.

The document is a so-called Santiago proffer outlining what


prosecutors say was a scheme by real estate developer Antoin
"Tony" Rezko and others to defraud the state. If U.S. District
Judge Amy J. St. Eve agrees the document indicates such a
scheme was afoot, prosecutors will be able to present testimony
that otherwise would be ruled out as hearsay at the trial for
Rezko.

Rezko has pleaded not guilty to scheming to collect millions of


dollars in kickbacks from companies seeking to do business with
the state.

According to the document, "Public Official A" once met with


Joseph Cari, former finance chairman of the Democratic
National Committee and said "he had a lot of ways of helping
his friends." Cari, who has pleaded guilty to attempted extortion
in the Rezko investigation, is now a government witness.

"Public Official A also informed Cari that he could award


contracts, legal work and investment banking to help with
fundraising," the document said.

The conversation ended with the public official noting that


"Rezko and "Co-Schemer B would follow up with Cari," the
document said.

"Co-Schemer B" is a Chicago roofing and consulting millionaire


Christopher Kelly, who headed fundraising for both of
Blagojevich's successful campaigns for governor, according to a
person with knowledge of the investigation who would not
speak for attribution because grand jury material is secret.

Kelly pleaded not guilty Friday to charges of making false tax


statements and structuring a bank transaction in illegal fashion
to avoid the scrutiny of federal regulators.

The governor's spokeswoman denied the alleged conversation in


the document ever occurred. "This administration does not do
business that way," she said.

But among other things, the document said that "Public Official
A" appointed millionaire campaign contributor Stuart Levine to
the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board — something
Blagojevich did.

Rezko is due to go to trial Feb. 25 on charges of conspiring with


Levine and others to shake down money-management firms
seeking business with the $30 billion state fund that pays the

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pensions of 225,000 retired downstate and suburban school


teachers.

Levine, who pleaded guilty to mail fraud and money laundering


in October 2006, was originally appointed to the 11-member
board of the Illinois Teachers Retirement System by Gov.
George Ryan, Blagojevich's predecessor.

Ryan had corruption problems of his own and is currently


serving a 6½-year racketeering and fraud sentence in federal
prison.

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Blagojevich dismissed questions about the probe,


calling them "tangential" and not relevant to the people
of Illinois.
Registered: Jul 2003
Location:
Posts: 31403 A court document claims Blagojevich boasted to a key
witness about awarding contracts and other work to
boost campaign fundraising.

Since when is a Federal probe not relevant to the people of Illinois if


it involves illegally awarding contracts? Bag of wind Blagojevich
needs to take responsibility for his crime, and join former Governor
Ryan in prison. They can lock him up in protective custody, or he

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can opt for general population where he can see first hand the
results of his get tough on crime politics. Of course he would be in a
Federal pen and not a State pen. So he would never see the results
of his get tough on crime politics if he opted for general population.

--Navigatr1

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liberranter An Illinois politician under federal investigation for corruption?


Super Moderator In other breaking news, the sun has been discovered to rise in
the East...

It would be earth-shattering news if this guy left office with a


record of transparency and honesty.

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Commission fires officer who arrested former jail chief


http://www.kcchronicle.com/articles...60407845289.txt
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: By ERIC SCHELKOPF - eschelkopf@kcchronicle.com
Posts: 31403
GENEVA - The Geneva police officer who arrested former Kane
County Jail head Todd Exline for drunken driving in June was fired
from her job on Monday.

The Geneva Fire and Police Commission voted Monday to fire Susan
Deuchler, who had been a Geneva police officer since July 2006.

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Geneva Police Chief William Kidwell said she was not fired
because of her involvement in the arrest, but because she
did not "meet the requirements of satisfactory probation."

"She performed (in the arrest) as exactly as she should have done,"
Kidwell said.

But Deuchler, reached by phone Monday, said she submitted a


letter of resignation. In the letter, she said, she cited conflicts with
department brass over the handling of the Exline case.

"What I did was correct," Deuchler said. "What happened in upper


management wasn't handled correctly."

Kidwell said he had not yet seen the letter.

Geneva police officers are put on 18 months probation when they


are hired. Deuchler's probation would have ended Jan. 26, 2008.

Batavia police trailed Exline's car into Geneva the night of June 29
and pulled him over. But Geneva officers, including Deuchler,
handled the questioning of Exline and his arrest.

Exline was charged July 2 by Geneva police with driving under the
influence. He was not given a breath test the night he was arrested,
but police said they had "additional information" when they charged
him.

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Navigatr1 Why Geneva officer was fired


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Why Geneva officer was fired


It had nothing to do with controversial DUI arrest, police chief says
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=104968
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Location: By Susan Sarkauskas | Daily Herald Staff
Posts: 31403
Published: 1/1/2008 12:06 AM

The Geneva Police and Fire Commission Monday fired an officer who
was involved in the controversial 2007 DUI arrest of a Kane County
corrections officer.

Patrol officer Susan Deuchler was nearing the end of her 18-month
probationary period with Geneva.

"I can assure you to the fullest extent it was in no way, shape or
form connected with the Todd Exline case," said Police Chief Bill
Kidwell. "She performed exactly as she should have (during the
arrest), and we have supported her 100 percent. It is not fair to her
to suggest otherwise."

Deuchler, 29, failed a probation assessment, which is an oral exam


given by her field training officer, three sergeants who are field
training officer coordinators and the commander of the patrol
division, Kidwell said.

Passing the exam is one of three requirements to be a Geneva


police officer. The other two are certification by the Illinois Law
Enforcement Training and Standards Board, and successful
completion of a 14-week orientation and training program with the
department.

On June 29, 2007, Deuchler was the responding Geneva police


officer to a call of a drunk driver around 11:30 p.m. A private
citizen had called police while driving on Kirk Road to report a
suspected drunk driver; a Batavia officer pulled Lt. Todd Exline over
on Route 25 near Mill Race Inn in Geneva. Geneva then handled the
investigation.

However, Exline, former director of the county jail, was not charged
until July 2.

Geneva police did not ask Exline to take a Breathalyzer blood-


alcohol test. Because he was not asked, his driver's license could
not be suspended while awaiting trial, which is what happens when
people refuse to take the test.

At the time, Geneva patrol Cmdr. Joe Frega said the test wasn't
given because a debate ensued about which police department had
jurisdiction, and whether probable cause for the stop existed since
no officer saw a traffic violation.

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During an October court hearing, Exline's attorney also contended


that he was asked to do a field sobriety test on an incline, when it
should have been done on a flat surface. Exline was also asked to
walk along a crack in the road, rather than a painted stripe, his
attorney said. The judge upheld the arrest and the tests.

Frega said he was told by Deuchler the test was done on a flat
surface.

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http://www.kcchronicle.com/articles...dc105172754.txt

Registered: Jul 2003 Tuesday, January 01, 2008


Location:
Posts: 31403 By ERIC SCHELKOPF - eschelkopf@kcchronicle.com

GENEVA – The Geneva police officer who arrested former Kane


County Jail head Todd Exline in connection with drunken driving in
June was fired from her job Monday.

The Geneva Fire and Police Commission voted Monday to fire Susan
Deuchler, who had been a Geneva police officer since July 2006.

Geneva Police Chief William Kidwell said she was not fired because
of her involvement in the arrest, but because she did not “meet the
requirements of satisfactory probation.”

“She performed [in the arrest] as exactly as she should have done,”
Kidwell said. “She made the arrest, and the courts have supported
that arrest.”

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Associate Judge Allen Anderson in October denied Exline’s request


to throw out the June 29 arrest in Geneva.

Geneva Mayor Kevin Burns also denied that there was a connection.

“There is no linkage between the police and fire commission and the
continuing Exline saga,” Burns said. “The commission acted
independently. The commission has discharged its duties as
expected and required.”

But Deuchler, reached by phone Monday, said she submitted a


letter of resignation. Deuchler said she resigned because of conflicts
with department brass over the handling of the Exline case.

“What I did was correct,” Deuchler said. “What happened in upper


management wasn’t handled correctly.”

Deuchler said she had documentation to back up the claim but


declined to share it with the Chronicle.

Kidwell said the city would not accept a resignation letter from
Deuchler.

“The city’s position is the board made their decision,” Kidwell said.
“A letter of resignation would be inappropriate.”

Kidwell reiterated that Deuchler’s firing had nothing to do with the


Exline arrest.

“Susan did everything she should have done,” Kidwell said. “The
department has stood behind her 100 percent since she made the
arrest.”

Geneva police officers are put on 18 months of probation when they


are hired. Deuchler’s probation would have ended Jan. 26, 2008.

Batavia police trailed Exline’s car into Geneva the night of June 29
and pulled him over. But Geneva officers, including Deuchler,
handled the questioning of Exline and his arrest.

Exline was charged July 2 by Geneva police with driving under the
influence. He was not given a breath test the night that he was
arrested, but police said they had “additional information” when
they charged him.

Defense lawyer David Camic, who represents Exline, could not be


reached for comment.

Phone calls to Charles Colburn, Illinois appellate prosecutor, were


not immediately returned. The appellate prosecutor’s office is
prosecuting the Exline case because an assistant Kane County
state’s attorney was in Exline’s car when it was pulled over.

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asked for a breath test, not charged for a few days, now the
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CHICAGO (AP) - A hearing involving a U.S. marshal accused of


leaking information about a key mob trial witness adjourned
without a ruling today and is set to continue tomorrow.

A sometimes tearful John Ambrose testified Tuesday at a hearing to


determine whether statements he made before being formally

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charged will be admissible in court.

Ambrose says he was intimidated into making the 2006 statements


to prosecutors.

Defense attorneys say Ambrose was effectively under arrest and


should've been read his rights. Since he wasn't, they say his
statements shouldn't be admissible.

But prosecutors say Ambrose wasn't under arrest and made the
statements freely.

Attorneys gave no indication what Ambrose told prosecutors.

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Registered: Jul 2003 By MICHAEL TARM – 5 hours ago


Location:
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information about a protected witness during a mob investigation
wept Tuesday as he testified during a pretrial hearing, saying he
was shocked when he discovered he could face charges.

John Ambrose was assigned several times to guard Nicholas


Calabrese, the star witness in the government's investigation of 18
long-unsolved mob murders that ended with several convictions this
year. Ambrose has pleaded not guilty to leaking information to the
Outfit, as the city's organized crime family calls itself, concerning
Calabrese's trips to Chicago to testify before a federal grand jury.

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Prosecutors want to use at trial statements Ambrose made to


federal officials, but a judge first must determine whether the nine-
year veteran of the U.S. Marshals Service was under arrest when he
suggested he had passed along information to the mob.

Prosecutors argue Ambrose was not under arrest, so his statements


can be used in court.

Defense attorneys argued Ambrose was in custody, even pointing


out that at least three FBI agents accompanied him into a restroom
during breaks — one standing on each side of the urinal, and one
agent standing behind him.

He should have been read his rights, including his right to remain
silent and have a lawyer present, they say.

Ambrose said he was intimidated when first confronted by U.S.


Attorney Patrick J. Fitzgerald at the FBI building in Chicago on Sept.
6, 2006, months before Ambrose was charged. He said Fitzgerald
gave him an ultimatum: Either cooperate immediately or face
charges and the loss of his job.

"I felt like I had been thrown into a vat of quicksand," Ambrose
testified at a pretrial hearing, tears welling in his eyes. "My body
was shaking. ... I was trying to grasp what was going on around
me."

Fitzgerald testified he never presented an ultimatum to Ambrose,


saying only that investigators wanted to get a full picture of what
happened.

"I told him that we have an open mind, that we have facts but we
don't have all the facts. ... Certain things we might have wrong,"
Fitzgerald said.

Fitzgerald testified Ambrose was deeply stressed — to the point that


Fitzgerald wondered whether he might be suicidal.

"(Ambrose) said, 'I screwed up, but it's not what you think.' ... He
said he wanted to keep his job. He said, 'My job means everything
to me.'"

Ambrose came under suspicion when eavesdropping FBI agents


heard reputed mobster Michael Marcello chatting with his jailed
brother, James Marcello, in the visitors room at the Milan, Mich.,
federal prison.

Michael Marcello told his brother that he had a source within federal
law enforcement who fit Ambrose's description.

The hearing was set to continue Wednesday, and U.S. District


Judge John F. Grady is expected to rule later this week.

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I am not a Lawyer. My opinions are my own, and not necessarily those of the
owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Registered: Jul 2003 By Michael Higgins | Tribune staff reporter


Location: 10:20 PM CST, December 18, 2007
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In a rare role reversal, U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald testified for two
hours Tuesday in federal court, defending his interrogation last year
of a deputy U.S. marshal charged with leaking secrets to the mob.

Fitzgerald said there was no reason to advise the deputy marshal,


John Ambrose, of his rights during questioning at FBI headquarters
in Chicago.

"I said [to Ambrose], 'You're not under arrest, but there is a
possibility of prosecution and jail time,'" Fitzgerald recalled on the
witness stand. "Because he was not under arrest, [the Miranda
warning] was not required.'

Ambrose eventually incriminated himself during the September


2006 questioning, Fitzgerald testified, quoting him as saying at one
point, "I screwed up. I shot my mouth off. But it's not what you
think . . . I would not sell my office."

Ambrose has pleaded not guilty to charges he told a family friend


that mobster Nicholas Calabrese was in the Witness Security
Program and cooperating with the FBI.

Calabrese's testimony over the summer was key to the conviction


of his brother, Frank Calabrese Sr., and three other reputed Outfit
figures in connection with 18 gangland slayings from decades
earlier. His cooperation had been a closely guarded secret when

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Ambrose outed him, authorities contended.

Fitzgerald answered questions posed by Assistant U.S. Atty. Diane


MacArthur, but on Wednesday, he returns to the witness stand to
be cross-examined by Ambrose's attorney, Francis Lipuma.

Lipuma contends that Fitzgerald and Robert Grant, the special


agent in charge of the FBI in Chicago, did "an end run" around
Miranda warnings by failing to advise Ambrose of his rights before
interrogating him.

Lipuma wants U.S. District Judge John Grady to block prosecutors


from using Ambrose's admissions against him.

Earlier Tuesday, Ambrose broke down on the witness stand as he


recalled Fitzgerald and Grant telling him that the evidence in the
leak case pointed at him.

"I felt I had been thrown in a vat of quicksand, and Mr. Fitzgerald
was throwing bricks at me," Ambrose testified. "That's how I felt."

Ambrose cried when he recalled sitting in the FBI conference room


and contemplating how his wife would raise their children if he went
to prison.

"Think of your family," he quoted Grant as telling him. "Think of


your job. You don't want to go to prison."

A key issue for Grady to decide is whether a reasonable person in


Ambrose's position would feel they were free to leave the
questioning.

In testimony that appeared to help Ambrose, U.S. Marshal Kim


Widup testified Tuesday that when he arrived at FBI headquarters
and observed Ambrose, it appeared to him that Ambrose was not
free to leave. But on cross-examination, Widup acknowledged that
he didn't know if Fitzgerald had explained to Ambrose earlier that
he was not under arrest.

Lipuma questioned witnesses about how the FBI took Ambrose's


gun and cell phone, ordered him to stay seated at a conference
table and had six agents escort him when he went to the bathroom.

But prosecutors suggested in their questioning that high security is


to be expected at FBI headquarters.

mjhiggins@tribune.com

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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December 19, 2007

In a rare role reversal, U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald testified for two
hours Tuesday in federal court, defending his interrogation last year
of a deputy U.S. marshal charged with leaking secrets to the mob.

Fitzgerald said there was no reason to advise the deputy marshal,


John Ambrose, of his rights during questioning at FBI headquarters
in Chicago.

"I said [to Ambrose], 'You're not under arrest, but there is a
possibility of prosecution and jail time,'" Fitzgerald recalled on the
witness stand. "Because he was not under arrest, [the Miranda
warning] was not required.'

Ambrose eventually incriminated himself during the September


2006 questioning, Fitzgerald testified, quoting him as saying at one
point, "I screwed up. I shot my mouth off. But it's not what you
think . . . I would not sell my office."

Ambrose has pleaded not guilty to charges he told a family friend


that mobster Nicholas Calabrese was in the Witness Security
Program and cooperating with the FBI.

Calabrese's testimony over the summer was key to the conviction


of his brother, Frank Calabrese Sr., and three other reputed Outfit
figures in connection with 18 gangland slayings from decades
earlier. His cooperation had been a closely guarded secret when
Ambrose outed him, authorities contended.

Fitzgerald answered questions posed by Assistant U.S. Atty. Diane


MacArthur, but on Wednesday, he returns to the witness stand to

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be cross-examined by Ambrose's attorney, Francis Lipuma.

Lipuma contends that Fitzgerald and Robert Grant, the special


agent in charge of the FBI in Chicago, did "an end run" around
Miranda warnings by failing to advise Ambrose of his rights before
interrogating him.

Lipuma wants U.S. District Judge John Grady to block prosecutors


from using Ambrose's admissions against him.

Earlier Tuesday, Ambrose broke down on the witness stand as he


recalled Fitzgerald and Grant telling him that the evidence in the
leak case pointed at him.

"I felt I had been thrown in a vat of quicksand, and Mr. Fitzgerald
was throwing bricks at me," Ambrose testified. "That's how I felt."

Ambrose cried when he recalled sitting in the FBI conference room


and contemplating how his wife would raise their children if he went
to prison.

"Think of your family," he quoted Grant as telling him. "Think of


your job. You don't want to go to prison."

A key issue for Grady to decide is whether a reasonable person in


Ambrose's position would feel they were free to leave the
questioning.

In testimony that appeared to help Ambrose, U.S. Marshal Kim


Widup testified Tuesday that when he arrived at FBI headquarters
and observed Ambrose, it appeared to him that Ambrose was not
free to leave. But on cross-examination, Widup acknowledged that
he didn't know if Fitzgerald had explained to Ambrose earlier that
he was not under arrest.

Lipuma questioned witnesses about how the FBI took Ambrose's


gun and cell phone, ordered him to stay seated at a conference
table and had six agents escort him when he went to the bathroom.

But prosecutors suggested in their questioning that high security is


to be expected at FBI headquarters. Fitzgerald testified that
authorities were concerned Ambrose might hurt himself or others.

Fitzgerald said FBI agents zeroed in on Ambrose as the source of


the leak after secretly videotaping mobsters who said they got
information about Calabrese from a person they referred to as "the
baby-sitter."

At one point, the mob figures said the baby-sitter's father had died
in prison after being convicted in the "Marquette 10" police scandal
— a description that pointed to Ambrose.

FBI agents later found Ambrose's fingerprints on a file containing a


summary of Calabrese's proposed testimony, Fitzgerald said.

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Location:
Posts: 31403 BOB QUELLOS reports on the crimes of Chicago's boys in black and
blue.

THE CITY of Chicago may have finally agreed to pay $20 million to
four men who were tortured by police and wrongly sent to spend
more than a decade each on death row. But that doesn't mean the
Chicago Police Department is cleaning house.

Far from it. A series of news reports show that Chicago's boys in

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black and blue are as deadly--and as unaccountable--as ever.

This year alone, the CPD has documented 32 police-involved


shootings, 29 of them fatal. “Chicago police shoot a civilian on
average once every 10 days,” reported the Chicago Tribune. “More
than 100 people have been killed in the last decade; 250 others
have been injured. But only a tiny fraction of shootings are ruled
unjustified--less than 1 percent, police records and court testimony
indicate.”

In the last 10 years, only six officers have even been disciplined for
using deadly force. Four of the six were connected to a single case--
in which LaTanya Haggerty was shot to death as she reached for
her cell phone during a traffic stop.

The growing list of shootings and other brutality involving the CPD
has prompted an outcry from many residents. In August, hundreds
of people from the North Lawndale neighborhood gathered in
protest after the police shot 18-year-old Aaron Harrison in the back.
Harrison died at the scene.

Rev. Al Sharpton, who recently opened up a Chicago office of his


National Action Network, is vowing to take up the issue of police
brutality in the city. He has told city officials that if they don't take
action, he will organize a petition campaign to the International
Olympic Committee to reject Chicago's bid for the 2016 Olympics.

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UNJUSTIFIED SHOOTINGS are only part of the picture when it
comes to Chicago police brutality and corruption. Police
Superintendent Phil Cline stepped down earlier this year in the
wake of two separate videotaped incidents showing off-duty
Chicago police beating unarmed civilians.

At the end of summer, six officers who were part of the now
disbanded Special Operations Section (SOS) were charged with
armed violence, home invasion and kidnapping after allegedly using
their position on the force to run a theft ring. One SOS officer is
being charged with planning the murder of a former unit member
who was cooperating with authorities.

In October, two officers were found liable for the unreasonable


search of 23-year-old Coprez Coffie. Coffie was pulled over in a
West Side Chicago alley in 2004, where officers sodomized him with
a screwdriver during a search for drugs. After a federal jury saw
ample evidence--including screwdrivers with traces of feces on
them, found in the glove compartment of the officers' car--Coffie
was awarded $4 million.

However, the two detectives are still on the job--after the Office of
Professional Standards, which handles complaints about police
misconduct, declared it was unable to conclude if the incident
occurred or not.

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Then, at the beginning of November, a Chicago police officer


Tasered an 82-year-old woman suffering from dementia, who was
holding a hammer to defend herself after refusing to open her door
to officials from the city's Department of the Aging. The Tasered
woman spent five days in the hospital.

Meanwhile, the Jon Burge police torture scandal looms in the


background. Burge was the Chicago police lieutenant under whose
command more than 200 Black men on Chicago' s South Side were
tortured. Many were forced to sign confessions for crimes they
didn't commit, and a number of them spent time on Illinois' death
row.

In January 2003, former Gov. George Ryan pardoned four of the


Burge torture victim on death row and commuted the sentences of
others, along with every death row prisoner. The $20 million that
the city agreed to pay to the four Burge victims--Madison Hobley,
Stanley Howard, Leroy Orange and Aaron Patterson--is in addition
to the $27 million that the city has paid out this year alone for
police misconduct judgments and settlements.

Blacks continue to bear the brunt of Chicago police violence and


prosecution. A recent study by the Justice Policy Institute found
that Cook County imprisons African Americans for drug offenses at
a rate 58 times greater than for whites.

Racism has been central to the wider epidemic of police violence in


Chicago. A federal judge this year ordered the release of a
document from a civil rights lawsuit in which Chicago cops were
accused of brutality. The document lists hundreds of officers with
10 or more civilian complaints against them; however, on its
release, the names of the officers were blacked out.

Mayor Richard Daley has refused to release the names, citing


concerns for their personal safety. He even accused the alderman
calling for the release of names of doing so for political gain. “It's
easy to criticize police,” Daley ranted. “Kick 'em when they're down.
Kick 'em and keep kicking 'em. Go home. See your name in the
press. Sign a petition. I guess that's what you do in life.”

Perhaps the poorest excuse for withholding the officers' names


came from Interim Police Superintendent Dana Starks. According to
Starks, nearly half of the complaints filed against officers this year
haven't been pursued because those who filed them failed to
cooperate with investigators--which led Starks to declare, “There
are complaints generated by criminals, gang members and drug
dealers who are determined to make false allegations against a
police officer to discredit the arrest and further their own agenda in
court.”

Contrary to Starks' claim, a recent study by the University of


Chicago of police complaints filed from 2001 to 2006 found:

-- A total of 662 Chicago police officers--a little less than 5 percent

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of the CPD's 13,500-member force--amassed 11 or more official


misconduct complaints between 2001 and 2006.

-- Thirty-three Chicago police officers had 30 or more complaints


between 2001 and 2006, yet only one of the thousand-plus charges
of abuse against these officers ever led to meaningful discipline.

-- There are officers who have amassed more than 50 abuse


complaints within five years who had not been flagged by any of
the CPD's early-warning programs, much less disciplined in any
fashion.

-- The overall rate of sustained complaints for all categories of


civilian abuse charges was 1 percent (124 sustained cases out of
10,149 charges of abuse).

In conclusion, the report describes the CPD's “deep commitment to


the machinery of denial, including denying incidents of brutality,
turning a blind eye to patterns of abuse, refusing to look at data
that is just a keystroke or two away and passively encouraging a
culture of silence in the face of abuse perpetrated by fellow officers.”

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CONFRONTED WITH a mounting crisis over the police, Daley has
brought in the first outsider ever to run the CPD--appointing as
superintendent J.P. “Jody” Weis, a former FBI official in charge of
Philadelphia's field office. Weis is now the city's highest paid public
official, with a $310,000-a-year salary.

He summarized his attitude toward his new command at the press


conference announcing his appointment: “There have been some
misdeeds by a few bad apples, but I'd like to emphasize, a very
few.”

Weis added, “The one thing I'm proud of with the FBI is that,
although we're not perfect, we do have a pretty good reputation of
policing ourselves.” But Weis' past experiences with whistleblowers
shows the opposite.

In 2003, Chicago FBI agent Robert G. Wright Jr. made public and
television appearances calling into question the FBI's work in
counterterrorism. In response, Weis and another top FBI official are
documented as stating they would “take him [Wright] out.” This
comment landed Weis in congressional hearings three years ago in
an investigation into whether the FBI did indeed try to retaliate
against Wright.

At the same time, Daley, thanks to a vote on City Council, has now
taken control of the Office of Professional Standards--in other
words, giving his notoriously corrupt administration oversight of
police.

Weis and Daley can be expected to carry out damage control,


including perhaps tossing a few corrupt or violent cops overboard.

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But there's little reason to believe that the CPD will curb its violent
and racist behavior--unless and until protest challenges it.

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BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter

Under fire for the way police shootings are investigated, the Daley
administration wants the right to test Chicago Police officers who
discharge their weapons -- on duty or off -- for alcohol and drugs.

In the wake of barroom brawls involving off-duty officers, City Hall


is also proposing random testing for alcohol as well as drugs;
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urine; testing for Ecstasy and steroids, and drug and alcohol testing
of officers in specialized units.

In addition, the city wants to retain disciplinary records related to


sustained complaints for the "duration of an officer's employment"
and require officers under investigation to make "electronically
recorded statements" to the Internal Affairs Division and the
Independent Police Review Authority.

A recent Sun-Times investigation into police shootings found that


detectives were sometimes not eager to administer a Breathalyzer
to a fellow cop.

The controversial proposals to strengthen the city's hand in


disciplining wayward officers were made by Mayor Daley's
negotiating team during contract talks with the Fraternal Order of
Police. They follow last week's appointment of career FBI agent
Jody Weis to become the first outsider in nearly 50 years to serve
as Chicago Police superintendent.

FOP President Mark Donahue declined to comment on the city's


proposals, posted on the union's Web site.

Police Committee Chairman Isaac Carothers (29th) said the


changes are overdue.

"If you drive a truck -- if a garbage man has an accident -- right


away he's taken for a test. If you're a police officer, you carry a gun
and you shoot somebody, why should we not ensure that person is
not impaired? It's not the case now. It's subject to the call of the
street deputy on the scene -- if he feels it's necessary," Carothers
said.

Ald. Robert Fioretti (2nd) is an attorney who has represented


LaFonso Rollins, who spent 11 years in prison for rape only to be
exonerated by DNA testing in 2004.

Fioretti was all for mandatory testing of officers involved in


shootings, but less enthusiastic about random alcohol testing.

"It's a red herring being thrown out to critics of the Police


Department. Let's not throw out red herrings that the city knows is
going to fail. Let's do realistic things. Let's do job training on
alcoholism. Let's do Breathalyzers at each and every shooting. Let's
do videotaping of roundtables," he said.

Attorneys representing victims of alleged police brutality have long


complained that the police contract is made to shield abusive
officers. The argument was aired most recently during debate over
the mayor's plan to sever the Office of Professional Standards from
the Police Department and make it a separate city department with
subpoena power and a chief administrator who reports directly to
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GC Marciano This is probably the first sensible thing I have ever hear Mayor
Copwatcher Extraordinaire Dick Daley ever propose.

Usually he is conjuring up some anti-constitutional bullshit that


gives more power to the police and takes freedoms from the
taxpayers.

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probably already cut a deal under the table with the CoP to
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COPWATCH.com Forum - Board fires one Rockford officer, Tonya Beets, conducts hearing on Jason Bailey

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ROCKFORD -

The Board of Fire and Police Commissioners announced its decision


to terminate the employment of officer Tonya Beets.

The three-person panel made its decision Nov. 6 in a closed session


hearing and made its announcement at 9 a.m. today after the

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decision was put in writing by the board’s secretary and legal


counsel.

The city criticized Beets’ excessive use of sick time. During a


decade with the Rockford Police Department, Beets missed 40
percent to 52 percent of her scheduled work time, the written
decision read.

This year, Beets used 918 hours of sick time from January through
Aug. 5, the equivalent of 114 eight-hour days. She did light duty for
252.5 hours. Beets was placed on paid leave Aug. 6.

Commissioner Henrietta Dotson-Williams dissented from the board’s


decision.

“Officer Beets should not be penalized for the many health and
pregnancy-related problems, including on-the-job injuries, she has
experienced over the past 10 years,” Dotson-Williams said. “I
believe Officer Beets deserves a second chance. If she continues to
be unable to work in full capacity as a full-time police officer over
the next year now that she has been released to start working
again on light duty, I would vote to terminate her employment.”

Beets did not comment after the ruling.

“They ignored the sick leave policy that was clearly in evidence,”
union attorney Tim O’Neil said. “She will be filing a lawsuit that will
cost the city a lot of money.”

The commission spent the rest of the morning hearing the case
against Detective Jason Bailey. Bailey is accused of using his
computer inappropriately during work time by posting messages on
the Rockford Register Star’s StoryChat and by viewing adult Web
sites.

The hearing recessed for lunch around 12:45 p.m. and will
reconvene for further testimony.

Staff writer Kevin Haas can be reached at 815-987-1351 or


khaas@rrstar.com.

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
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ROCKFORD -

A Winnebago County judge cleared the way Thursday for the city’s
Board of Fire and Police Commissioners to decide the fate of four
Rockford police officers who could lose their jobs for violating
department policy.

The city’s police union asked Judge Ed Prochaska to temporarily bar


the commission from hearing disciplinary cases involving its
members while a state agency considers a labor complaint the
union filed against the department.

The union claims the city is unwilling to arbitrate disciplinary


grievances. Specifically, the union wants cases in which an officer
faces possible suspension or termination to be handled by a third-
party arbitrator, not the three-member commission chosen by the
mayor and the City Council.

Diluting the commission’s power by putting those decisions in the


hands of a labor arbitrator is not a good idea, City Legal Director
Patrick Hayes said.

Since April 2003, the city has agreed to arbitrate several


disciplinary cases involving police officers, said Tim O’Neil, the
union’s attorney.

“This year we took three cases to an arbitrator,” O’Neil said.


“There’s a past practice for doing this.”

O’Neil said he will request the Illinois Labor Relations Board

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expedite a hearing on the union’s unfair labor complaint. The Fire


and Police board meets at 12:30 p.m. today. Previously scheduled
disciplinary hearings for two police officers will be postponed and
hearings for two other officers have yet to be scheduled.

The department alleges in written complaints it has filed with the


board that:

Officer Tonya Beets is physically unfit to do her job.

Officer Robert Cole failed to provide his supervisors with a doctor’s


note for 14 days of missed work in June and July.

Officer Jason Bailey, on 23 separate occasions this year, used his


work computer to post messages on the Rockford Register Star’s
online StoryChat.

Officer Kevin Nordberg also used his work computer to post


messages on StoryChat in violation of department policy. Nordberg
wrote 11 messages between Dec. 8 and May 25.

Staff writer Isaac Guerrero can be reached at 815-987-1371 or


iguerrero@rrstar.com.

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ROCKFORD -

Two Rockford police officers could lose their jobs for allegedly using
department computers to write online rants while they were
working.

Their comments via StoryChat on rrstar.com, the Register Star’s


Web site, included harsh critiques of their boss and the Rockford
Police Department.

The city’s Fire and Police Commission meets Sept. 10 to consider


the fates of officers Jason Bailey and Kevin Nordberg.

Members of the police union failed to stop the commission from


hearing those cases during a courtroom battle this week — the
latest chapter in the unrest between Chief Chet Epperson’s
administration and the union that represents about 280 sworn
officers.

Union members are unŸhappy, their lawyer says. They’ve worked


for 20 months without a labor contract, and an arbitrator has yet to
rule on a new wage and benefits package.

The union president is suing Epperson and other police brass,


saying they ignore protocol when conducting internal investigations
of officers. In a separate lawsuit, Bailey and another officer, Matt
Williams, say the chief had no right to confiscate their handguns
when he placed them on paid leave last month.

To top it off, the union slapped the city with a charge of unfair labor
practice July 30 and is awaiting a decision from the Illinois Labor
Relations Board. The union wants an arbitrator to preside over
disciplinary hearings instead of the Fire and Police Commission. But
doing so would strip the locally appointed commission of its power,
city officials say.

The bottom line?

“Morale among the members of the union is low,” said Tim O’Neil, a
Geneva lawyer who represents Police Benevolent & Protective
Association Unit 6.

Epperson sees things differently.

“What you’re hearing about low morale is from a small segment of


officers who have a problem with the cultural transformation of this

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department,” he said. “They’re finding it difficult to adapt.”

Epperson prompted grumbling from some rank-and-file cops when


he replaced nearly all senior officers soon after his promotion to
chief in April 2006.

The “cultural changes” he’s pushed for since then include a sharper
focus on community policing. Block by block, officers are cracking
down on drug dealers and other unacceptable behavior that plague
neighborhoods, he said. Cops are teaming with other city workers
to battle crime and remove blight. Building inspectors, for example,
have accompanied police on sweeps through troubled
neighborhoods and cited owners of suspected drug houses for code
violations.

Epperson declined to comment on the charges facing Bailey and


Nordberg, the officers accused of posting messages on rrstar.com
while they were working.

While the Fire and Police Commission will convene disciplinary


hearings for the men Sept. 10, the city is likely to postpone those
hearings because the charges may be amended, said Brendan
Maher, the commission’s secretary.

The panel met Friday to consider disciplinary hearings for two other
officers — Tonya Beets and Robert Cole — but those matters were
postponed to give city attorneys more time to file amended
charges. Beets is physically unfit to do her job, and Cole broke
department regulations when he failed to give his supervisor a
doctor’s note for 14 days of missed work, according to Epperson’s
complaints filed with the commission.

Bad behavior

Bailey was placed on paid leave Aug. 16. He used his work
computer to post StoryChat messages 23 times this year, according
to the city’s complaint. StoryChat is an interactive feature that
allows visitors to register for a free username and post their
opinions alongside published news stories. StoryChat was disabled
Aug. 22 when rrstar.com was redesigned; a new version,
Comments, will debut in mid-September.

City Attorney John Giliberti, who will prosecute the charges against
Bailey and Nordberg, wouldn’t say how the city can prove the
allegations. The Register Star and rrstar.com have not given police
or city officials information to aid their case, nor has such
information been requested, Executive Editor Linda Grist
Cunningham said.

“Our practice is, we don’t release any information about who is


posting to the Web site,” she said. “But we can release that
information. Part of the terms of service that you agree to before
you register to post on StoryChat or our forums says that you
understand that we can release that information. But we’ve never

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done so and have no intention of doing so.”

Bailey and Nordberg violated seven Police Department regulations,


according to the city’s complaint, including using department
property for personal use, “actions which bring discredit upon the
department” and “using coarse or disrespectful language toward
any fellow officer or person.”

Some of the messages Bailey allegedly wrote routinely criticized


actions of the department and mocked Epperson and Mayor Larry
Morrissey. “Rockford is not a safe community and never will be
under the Morrissey Administration” was a message from April 4. In
an April 12 message, the city claims, Bailey dubbed Epperson
Morrissey’s “handpuppet.” Other rants bashed Rockford’s
downtown. “Beattie Park is a toilet for the homeless population,”
according to a post from March 13.

Nordberg’s alleged postings include a March 8 message that


referred to another Rockford police officer as “stupid” and
“ignorant.” On March 29, Nordberg allegedly attacked the author of
another post with this comment: “I am sorry that your foster
mother dropped you on your head when you were a baby.”

What’s ahead

Despite this week’s ruling by Judge Ed Prochaska, O’Neil said he


believes the union has a right to resolve disciplinary matters with
an arbitrator other than the Fire and Police Commission. He’ll file an
injunction next week in Circuit Court to permanently bar the
commission from conducting those hearings until state officials rule
on the union’s unfair-labor charge.

Epperson said he isn’t deterred by the union’s legal actions.

“As far as these lawsuits and disciplinary cases and the individuals
who may have some difficulty accepting change, that’s OK,”
Epperson said. “It’s not going to get us off our overall mission to
reduce crime, increase the solve rate and improve the quality of life
in the community.”

Staff writer Isaac Guerrero can be reached at 815-987-1371 or


iguerrero@rrstar.com.

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I am not a Lawyer. My opinions are my own, and not necessarily those of the
owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


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their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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Commissioners will decide by Thursday if Tonya Beets will be fired
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ROCKFORD -

A tearful Tonya Beets admitted to the city’s Board of Fire and Police
Commissioners on Monday that she’s used a lot of sick time since
she became a Rockford cop 10 years ago. But she shouldn’t lose
her job, she said, because much of that sick time was because of
injuries in the line of duty and two difficult pregnancies.

After Monday’s disciplinary hearing, which lasted more than four


hours, the commission will reconvene before Thursday to decide
whether Beets will keep her job, board Chairman LoRayne Logan
said.

Police Chief Chet Epperson placed Beets on paid leave Aug. 6 and is
asking the three-member panel to fire her. The city’s complaint
against Beets says that her excessive amount of sick leave and
light-duty assignment “makes her unable to consistently do her
job,” and that her continued employment with the Police
Department is not in the public’s best interest.

Since 1997, Rockford police officers have been scheduled to work


2,080 hours during a calendar year.

The city alleges that Beets has used sick time or served on light-
duty assignment for more than half of her career with the
department. For example, from January of this year through Aug.
5, Beets used 918 hours of sick time and did light duty for 252.5
hours. In 2006, she used 1,405 hours of sick time. In 2005, she
used 611.5 hours of sick time and did light-duty work for 366.5
hours.

Deputy Chief Mike Booker, who also testified Monday, said the city
has spent “considerable dollars” paying other officers to cover
Beets’ shift during her times of absence. Her excessive

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absenteeism, Booker said, resulted in low morale among other


officers who had to cover her shift or work with a short-staffed crew.

“I understand the complaints they filed against me,” Beets testified


Monday. “But with my pregnancies and my injuries, I couldn’t
control that. I hate what I went through, but I’m happy it resulted
in two healthy babies.”

Beets’ lawyer, Tim O’Neil, said the city’s calculations of Beets’ sick
time do not specify time she took off for maternity leave or
approved workers’ compensation complaints. For example, O’Neil
said, Beets used more than 1,451 hours of sick time in 2000, but all
but about eight hours of that time was on doctor’s orders because
of pregnancy complications.

“The city cannot fire someone for workers’ compensation, especially


when the city signs off on it,” O’Neil said. “The city cannot fire a
female officer for problem pregnancies.”

Staff writer Isaac Guerrero can be reached at 815-987-1371 or


iguerrero@rrstar.com.

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I am not a Lawyer. My opinions are my own, and not necessarily those of the
owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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The board has made its decision about Tonya Beets’ job but won’t
tell her just yet.
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ROCKFORD -

The Rockford Board of Fire and Police Commissioners knows


whether police officer Tonya Beets will keep her job — it’s just not
telling her.

Meeting behind closed doors Tuesday night, the three-member


panel reached a consensus, said board member Henrietta Dotson-
Williams.

That decision will be put in writing by the board’s secretary and


legal counsel, Brendan Maher, then officially voted on during a Dec.
1 meeting.

In the meantime, Beets will remain in limbo because the


commissioners are refusing to discuss their decision.

Police Chief Chet Epperson placed Beets on paid leave Aug. 6 and is
asking the board to fire her.

The city’s complaint against Beets says her excessive amount of


sick leave and light-duty assignment “makes her unable to
consistently do her job” and that her continued employment with
the Police Department is not in the public’s best interest.
Beets and her lawyer say much of her sick time or light -duty work
was due to illness related to two difficult pregnancies and injuries
she sustained in the line of duty.

Aurelio DeLaRosa, president of the police union, said Tuesday it


would be “atrocious” if Beets lost her job because of time off due to
workers’ compensation issues approved by her supervisors.

The city alleges that Beets has used sick time or served on light-
duty assignment for more than half of her career with the
department.

From January of this year through Aug. 5, Beets used 918 hours of
sick time, the equivalent of 114 eight-hour days, and did light duty
for 252.5 hours.

In 2006, she used 1,405 hours of sick time, the equivalent of 175
eight-hour days.

In 2005, she used 611.5 hours of sick time, equaling 76 eight-hour

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days, and did light-duty work for 366.5 hours.

Staff writer Isaac Guerrero can be reached at 815-987-1371 or


iguerrero@rrstar.com.

What’s next

The Rockford Board of Fire and Police Commissioners plans to hold


a disciplinary hearing for police officer Jason Bailey at 9 a.m. Dec. 1
at the Rockford Fire Department, 204 S. First St.

Bailey is accused of misusing his work computer while on duty to


view pornography and to post messages on the Rockford Register
Star’s Web site.

__________________
I am not a Lawyer. My opinions are my own, and not necessarily those of the
owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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ROCKFORD -

City attorneys and leadership of the Rockford police union have


asked a Winnebago County judge to decide whether an arbiter or
the city’s Fire and Police Commission has the authority to convene
disciplinary hearings for four officers who face suspension or
termination.

Both sides met in court Thursday and agreed to argue their case
before Judge Ed Prochaska at 1 p.m. Oct. 4. The city wants the

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commission to decide the fates of officers Jason Bailey, Kevin


Nordberg, Robert Cole and Tonya Beets. The city wants the officers
disciplined for alleged wrongdoing ranging from misconduct to
unexcused sick leave.

The Police Benevolent and Protective Association has asked


Prochaska to approve a temporary restraining order that would bar
the commission from holding those hearings. Prochaska denied that
request last month, and the union is asking him to reconsider.

Union leaders want a private arbitrator to hear the cases instead.


The commission, union leaders say, would not be impartial because
its members are chosen by the mayor and confirmed by the City
Council. The city has filed a similar restraining order to prevent an
arbitrator from hearing the discipline cases.

For now, the commission will move forward with the disciplinary
hearings. The three-member panel meets at 6 p.m. Monday at the
Fire Department, 204 S. First St., to schedule hearings for the four
officers.

The restraining order issue is one of several pending legal actions


involving Epperson and the police union. Union President Aurelio De
La Rosa is also suing the department over the way police
supervisors sign sworn affidavits in cases involving alleged
misconduct of officers. That case was in court Thursday for a status
hearing.

Another status hearing is set for 9 a.m. Dec. 12 in Prochaska’s


courtroom.

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owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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ROCKFORD -

The city’s Board of Fire and Police Commissioners has resolved two
of the four pending disciplinary cases against Rockford police
officers.

At the commission’s Monday night meeting, City Attorney John


Giliberti informed board members that the complaint against officer
Robert Cole has been withdrawn and the matter has been resolved
internally. Cole was charged with failing to provide his supervisors
with a doctor’s note for 14 days of missed work in June and July.

The case against officer Kevin Nordberg also has been resolved
internally, Giliberti said, though some details still need to be worked
out. A finalized agreement between the city and Nordberg should be
completed by the board’s Oct 22 meeting, he said.

Nordberg was charged with using his work computer to post


messages on the Register Star’s Story Chat in violation of
department policy. Nordberg wrote 11 messages between Dec. 8
and May 25.

Two other cases remain pending.

Officer Jason Bailey is charged with posting 23 messages on Story


Chat from his work computer and using his work computer to visit
Web sites that are pornographic and/or sexual in nature while on
duty on five separate days this year.

Officer Tonya Beets is charged with being physically unfit to do her


job.

Bailey’s case will be discussed at the board’s Oct. 22 and Oct. 29


meetings. Beets’ case is scheduled for a hearing Oct. 29.

Staff writer Corina Curry can be reached at 815-987-1395 or


ccurry@rrstar.com.

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owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad

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guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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ROCKFORD -

The city’s Fire and Police Commission meets next week to decide
whether a 10-year veteran of the Rockford Police Department is
physically unfit for her job.

The commission has scheduled a disciplinary hearing for officer


Tonya Beets at 6 p.m. Monday at the Rockford Fire Department
headquarters, 204 S. First St. It’s the latest in a string of
disciplinary cases for Rockford police officers that have either been
settled or are moving closer to a hearing and possible punishment
for the accused.

The commission met Monday to get an update on two of those


cases.

Since joining the department in 1997, Beets has taken an excessive


amount of sick leave and light-duty assignment, which “makes her
unable to consistently do her job,” according to a complaint the city
filed with the commission last month. Her continued employment is
not in the public’s best interest, according to the complaint.

“All of those absences, she has doctor’s excuses for,” said Beets’
lawyer, Tim O’Neil. “Her supervisors gave their approval in every
instance.”

A complaint against officer Robert Cole has been withdrawn. Cole


was charged with failing to provide his supervisors with a doctor’s
note for 14 days of missed work in June and July.

A complaint against officer Kevin Nordberg has been resolved


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post online messages in violation of department policy. Police Chief


Chet Epperson declined Monday to explain how Nordberg’s case has
been resolved. Similar charges against officer Jason Bailey are still
pending, though no hearing date has been set. The city also alleges
that Bailey used his work computer to view pornographic images
while on duty.

O’Neil, who is also representing Bailey, said he questions whether


the city fairly punishes officers who breach department policy. On
Monday, the commission also will consider O’Neil’s request that the
city turn over personnel files pertaining to other police disciplinary
cases.

Staff writer Isaac Guerrero can be reached at 815-987-1371 or


iguerrero@rrstar.com.

__________________
I am not a Lawyer. My opinions are my own, and not necessarily those of the
owners of this board. Articles posted on this board by me, or other members, are
merely a collection of publicly published articles on the internet that are
conveniently posted in one place. The purpose of the articles is accountability for
too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
13, 1787

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Leaders have asked for officer to be fired for taking ‘excessive’
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ROCKFORD -

Police Department leaders believe its officers can be fired for using
too much sick time — even though the labor contract for the city’s
nearly 300 officers doesn’t specify how much is too much.

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While the city concedes the contract is ambiguous, the case of one
officer charged with using too much sick time has once again
thrown the spotlight on the escalating animosity between Chief
Chet Epperson and his rank-and-file officers, two sides already at
odds over Epperson’s management style and discipline of officers.

The issues have spurred lawsuits, protest marches and, on


Tuesday, the union’s public call for the chief’s resignation.

Epperson placed officer Tonya Beets, 36, on paid leave Aug. 6 and
asked the city’s Fire and Police Commission to fire her for taking
“excessive” sick leave and light-duty assignment. The three-
member panel meets Dec. 1 to issue a decision.

Leave for pregnancy, injury

Beets has used the equivalent of three years and four months of
sick leave since joining the department in 1997.

She told the commission last week she has weathered two
problematic pregnancies, two injuries in the line of duty and various
illnesses, including impacted wisdom teeth and kidney stones. Her
latest misfortune happened in August 2006 after a vacation. Beets
picked up a heavy piece of luggage and injured her wrist and
shoulder.

Multiple surgeries to mend the damage kept Beets from work for
more than 19 weeks last year and nearly all of the first eight
months of this year, she said last week.

“I did my job to the best of my ability,” Beets told commissioners


last week. “I understand the complaints they filed against me, but
with my pregnancies, my injuries — I couldn’t control that.”

Beets declined to comment further Thursday and her lawyer, Tim


O’Neil, did not return phone calls to the Register Star, although the
two defended her sick leave during her testimony last week. Much
of the sick time, O’Neil said, is for city-approved workman’s
compensation claims.

The city acknowledges the on-the-job injuries, but it claims Beets


has had dependability and attendance problems since she started
working for the city.

“It’s not something Chet Epperson has recently brought up,” City
Attorney John Giliberti told the commission last week.

But determining whether Beets’ sick time is excessive isn’t easy.

Past practice

The police union’s labor contract stipulates that “sick leave shall be
administered according to the past practice” of the city and the
union. Nowhere in the contract or in the department’s personnel
regulations does the city set forth a maximum amount of allowable

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sick time.

“We just don’t have a hard rule,” said city Legal Director Patrick
Hayes.

For on-the-job injuries, the city’s practice has been to give officers
up to a year to return to work, Hayes said. Beets’ situation is more
complicated because she has used sick time for various illnesses
and injuries.

“The best way to explain the city’s position is that when an officer
has a lengthy sickness or absence due to a non-duty injury, when it
becomes clear the officer is not returning to duty, that’s when we
ask the officer to seek a disability pension,” Hayes said. “If the
officer won’t, we’re forced to say this officer isn’t fit and we need to
move to the next person on the hire list.”

At least two other local police departments have more restrictive


sick leave policies guiding police officers. The Belvidere Police
Department, for example, grants its officers up to 160 consecutive
days of paid sick leave from the initial date of an illness or injury as
long as their benefits are not extended for more than 75 percent of
their tenure with the department, said Police Chief Jan Noble.

The Winnebago County Sheriff’s Department requires its officers to


earn sick days before they can use them. An 8.4-hour sick day is
earned for every month of service, Deputy Chief Bob Springer said.
Officers can roll over up to 250 sick days. The department can
grant an officer additional sick time — beyond what he or she has
earned — but that time off is unpaid and the department can
establish other terms and conditions as it sees fit.

“In my experience as a labor arbitrator in the private and public


sector, it is to both parties’ interest to have the amount of sick time
spelled out in the contract,” said Matthew Finken, a University of
Illinois law professor.

“It’s common for a contract to say, ‘Let the past practice determine
how sick time is used,’ but more often I’ve seen the issue of
available sick time treated more precisely. Obviously, you’d want to
avoid litigation over what the past practice has been.”

Unfair labor charge

The Rockford police union filed an unfair labor charge against the
city earlier this year, alleging that the city violated its contract by
unilaterally changing the way it deals with officers on long-term
medical leave for non-duty injuries. The city denied the complaint,
and the dispute was resolved last month.

The complaint against Beets says her excessive sick leave and light-
duty assignment “makes her unable to consistently do her job” and
that her continued employment with the Police Department is not in
the public’s best interest.

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Through Aug. 5 of this year, Beets used 918 hours of sick leave —
the equivalent of almost 23 work weeks — and worked nearly 6½
weeks on light-duty assignments other than her job as a patrol
officer. Last year, Beets took 35 weeks of sick leave and worked
just 17 weeks in full capacity as a patrol officer. That time off was
because of a pregnancy and the wrist and shoulder injury she
incurred off-duty. Beets wasn’t able to take maternity leave last
year because she didn’t work enough hours during the previous
year to qualify.

Other ailments kept Beets away from work in previous years. For
example, she took 1,451 hours of sick time in 2000, although all
but 8.7 hours of that time was because of pregnancy complications,
Beets told the commission last week. In 2002, she used 548 hours
of sick time, of which 376.5 hours were because of a foot injury she
incurred on the job.

Specifying how much sick time cops should be allowed is not an


easy task, Hayes said.

“Because the nature of the issues we’re dealing with have to do


with injuries and illnesses, everybody’s (recovery) time is different.
Every illness is different. It’s a very difficult arena to set a hard and
fast rule for.”

Staff writer Isaac Guerrero can be reached at 815-987-1371 or


iguerrero@rrstar.com.

What's next

The Rockford Board of Fire and Police Commissioners meets at 9 a.


m. Dec. 1 to issue a ruling in the disciplinary case of police officer
Tonya Beets. The commission may also begin a disciplinary hearing
for officer Jason Bailey, who is accused of misusing his work
computer to post messages on the Register Star’s Web site and to
view pornographic images. The commission meets at the Rockford
Fire Department, 214 S. First St.

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A story in Friday’s newspaper detailing a dispute between the
Rockford Police Department and an officer charged with taking
excessive sick leave revealed a loophole in the union contract big
enough to accommodate a whole hospital.

As contract negotiations continue between the police union and the


city, this is one item that all concerned should agree needs to be
reviewed.

We’re not going to speculate on the desirable outcome of the case


in question. Here is a bare statement of fact: Police administrators
are seeking to fire Officer Tonya Beets for taking too much sick
time. Because of problematic pregnancies, as well as other health
conditions and injuries sustained both on and off the job, Beets has
used the equivalent of three years, four months of sick leave over
the course of her 10 years on the force. Most recently, she missed
19 weeks of work last year and was unable to work the first seven
months of this year because of a post-vacation injury sustained
lifting luggage.

The case is before the Fire and Police Commission for a decision.
The most stunning revelation to come out of information presented
so far is that the labor contract under which police officers work has
no maximum on how much sick time officers can take.

The standard is only that sick leave should be administered


“according to the past practice” of the city and the union. The city’s
legal director, Patrick Hayes, said, “We just don’t have a hard rule.”

That’s a hard pill to swallow, and not one that’s likely to benefit
taxpayers or city employees, other than those who use a lot of paid
sick time. It’s not being judgmental of Beets or any other employee
to say that being unavailable to work more than one-third of the
time over a decade of employment is a lot of time during which
other people have to do your work. Does it meet the definition of
“excessive”? The commission will have to determine that.

Public and private employers are right to allow workers to take paid
sick time, and policies on sick time, worker compensation and
disability usually are clearly spelled out.

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The Winnebago County Sheriff’s Department, for instance, requires


employees to work a month to earn an 8.4-hour sick day. Up to 250
unused sick days can be accumulated and rolled over from year to
year. Depending on circumstances, the department may grant
additional unpaid sick time.

The Belvidere Police Department allows officers up to 160


consecutive paid sick days, as long as the illness doesn’t exceed 75
percent of the person’s department tenure.

Even those policies seem generous compared with standards in


private industry, but after all, these are public employees doing
sometime-dangerous jobs. We all understand unexpected health
conditions that can alter a person’s ability to perform his or her
duties. Most companies and governmental agencies find a way to
react compassionately to employees who have health issues without
unduly compromising the bottom line or squandering public funds.

The vast majority of police officers have a stake in seeing that the
contract contains a reasonable policy on sick time. Both they, and
the public, deserve to have as many budgeted police positions as
possible filled by people who are ready and able to do them.

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Registered: Jul 2003 By: Rebecca Klopf


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ROCKFORD - A Rockford officer accused of inappropriately using his
work computer will keep his job.

The decision was part of a deal reached by the city and officer
Jason Bailey before the Fire and Police Commission could rule on his
future.

Officer Jason Bailey is accused of accessing adult websites and


posting messages criticizing the police department and city.

So to keep his job he'll have to admit to those charges in a letter,


but it's what else will go into letter that has the Rockford Police
Union unhappy.

"The mayor and the chief directed that we seek any opportunity to
compromise on terms that were acceptable to the city," Patrick
Hayes, City Legal Director.

For officer Jason Bailey those terms include a 30 day suspension,


100 hours of time to the city, he'll take his name off the list for a
promotion, seek counseling and withdraw a lawsuit against Chief
Epperson.

And finally he'll write a letter of apology to his family. The city and
police department.

"I'm very happy that the board that has taken under advisement
and allow us to accomplish that settlement agreement and that this
matter is resolved for officer bailey," says Hayes.

And although that will end Bailey's case with the commission. In the
letter he must also ask the Police Union's Vice President Bruce
Brannum and Detective Sergeant Bob Redmond to withdraw their
own complaints against Chief Epperson.

Something the police union's president says they have no plans on


doing.

"We love our brother fraternally, Jason bailey but PBPA unit 6 is
bigger than Jason Bailey," says Aurelio DeLaRosa, Police Union
President.

DeLaRosa next step will be to move forward on the complaint to the


commission and the criminal complaints filed against Chief
Epperson.

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"We will not withdraw those complaints. The chief has to go," says
DeLaRosa.

The board also went into closed session to talk about the
complaints brought against Chief Epperson.

The commissioners say the only decision they've made on those


charges is when to meet and that is tentatively set for January 3rd.

Updated: December 8, 2007, 9:57 pm

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COPWATCH.com Forum - Police chief breaks water main with illegal digging: cost city thousands

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State Officials Investigate Water Main Break


10:30 pm CT December 03, 2007

http://www.wsiltv.com/p/news_details.php?newsID=3586

JOHNSTON CITY-- State authorities are looking into a water


main break in Johnston City. Investigators say it was caused by
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Johnston City Alderman Jim Mitchell and Police Chief Jerald
Kobler are accused of hitting a water line when they were trying
to bury something.

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The problem is-- before they had started digging- they were
required by law to contact state officials.

Both Mitchell and Kobler could face repercussions from the


Illinois Commerce Commission.

According to Alderman Ryan Horn, it was last September that


the two men were digging on Jim Mitchell's property, using a
backhoe to bury some of Mitchell's construction materials.

Before working, they were supposed to get in touch with a state


agency known as Joint Utility Locating Information for
Excavator, or JULIE.

"They know where all the water lines is at. Before anybody digs,
you're supposed to contact them" says Horn. "People are
required by law to and Mitchell and Kobler didn't. That's
the mistake that they made."

The work on Mitchell's property resulted in a broken water


main, which then led to a city-wide boil order.

"It took about 6 water department guys and what I was told
about 4 hours to get it under control" says Horn.

Horn says the repairs cost the city thousands of dollars.

Now the two men may have to shell out their own money. The
ICC is investigating the incident and could fine the city officials
thousands of dollars.

If that happens, Horn says Mitchell and Kobler could face even
more consequences in their own community.

"Folks were mad and upset about this. It kind of hurt the
trust in the city government."

News 3 tried to contact both Jim Mitchell and Jerald Kobler for
this story. They were unavailable for comment.

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NAME:
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Location: Chicago, Illinois
1505 North Logan St.
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GC Marciano I can't help but wonder what this documented crooked police
Copwatcher Extraordinaire chief was really burying?

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Government, the Government Originally posted by GC505
should fear the People. I can't help but wonder what this documented
crooked police chief was really burying?

I thought the very same thing.

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Maxima quote:
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I thought the very same thing.

X3. Bury "something" my ass.

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http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...&threadid=24015

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Daley chooses Philly FBI official as new Chicago top cop


AP
November 29, 2007

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?se...ocal&id=5791747

(CHICAGO) - Mayor Richard Daley picked a Philadelphia FBI


official on Thursday as Chicago's next top cop to lead a
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department tarnished by allegations of police misconduct
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J.P. "Jody" Weis, the special agent in charge of the FBI's
Philadelphia office, was named to replace Police Supt. Phil Cline,
who announced his retirement earlier this year amid
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officers.

Some officers had "fundamentally abused their trust" with the


people of Chicago and it is Weis' job to fix that and fight the
"gangs, guns and drugs" that plague some neighborhoods,
Daley said.

"Jody Weis is uniquely qualified to both implement new


strategies in our fight against crime and ensure that the
conduct of our police officers meet the highest standards,"
Daley said at a City Hall news conference introducing Weis.

The City Council still needs to approve Weis' appointment. Weis


is a 22-year veteran of the FBI whose work at the bureau has
included stints in Chicago, Los Angeles and Texas. Earlier this
year, he was part of the FBI's bust of men accused of plotting to
kill U.S. soldiers in an attack on Fort Dix, N.J.

Weis, 49, would start in January and be paid $300,000 --


a salary higher than the mayor's -- because Weis would
have a dual role as police superintendent and as the
city's chief emergency officer, said Daley spokeswoman
Jacquelyn Heard.

Weis said Daley made it clear to him that the public's


confidence in the department needs to be rebuilt. A number of
high-profile incidents have put the spotlight on police officer
conduct.

The department is disbanding an elite anti-street gang unit after


seven of its members were charged with abusing civilians. One
officer was also charged with plotting to kill another officer who
may have testified in the case.

The city also got widespread attention earlier this year when an
off-duty officer was charged with beating a female bartender,
an incident caught on videotape that Weis called "horrific."
Charges also were filed against other officers accused of beating
some businessmen at a downtown tavern.

Aldermen have called on the city to release the names of


officers accused in complaints of abusing citizens but the city
has refused, citing the privacy of officers who may have done
nothing wrong.

Declaring that "no one is above the law," Weis said officers
would be disciplined or prosecuted if they break department
rules or the law. But he said accused officers should be treated
fairly.

"When one of my officers are called into question I believe they


deserve the benefit of the doubt until we determine what all the
facts actually were," said Weis, who has worked in the FBI's
office of professional responsibility.

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Weis has had to answer questions about his role in


alleged retaliation against a Chicago agent who publicly
raised concerns about the bureau's counterterrorism
operations.

In 2004, the Chicago Tribune reported that Weis and


another top official in the FBI's disciplinary office talked
about the complaining agent and how his television
appearances would let them "take him out." The
newspaper cited a memo it obtained and said it was
written by another former official in the disciplinary
office.

Weis said Thursday the matter was fully investigated and


unsubstantiated. "I don't remember uttering those words at all.
But I mean the investigation at that time showed that that did
not take place," he said.

Flint Taylor, an attorney who handles police brutality


cases, said it will take more than a new police chief to
solve problems within the department.

"There has to be a new attitude from the mayor and the


administration if these systemic problems of police
misconduct and brutality are to be properly dealt with,"
Taylor said.

The way to stop bad behavior by officers is with "stern


leadership," Weis said. "There have been some misdeeds by a
few bad apples but I'd like to emphasize a very few," he said.

"I've got to set the tone right from the beginning ... that this
type of behavior won't be tolerated," he said.

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GC Marciano Daley Reaches Outside City For New Top Cop


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Jody Weis Is Special Agent In Philadelphia, Former Chicago FBI
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CHICAGO (CBS) ― The last time an outsider was named to run


the Chicago police was 1960, when the department scarred by
scandal under a mayor named Richard J. Daley.
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management manual by bringing in an outsider to shake up the
Chicago police. J.P. "Jody" Weis, is a 22-year veteran of the
Federal Bureau of Investigation. He comes to Chicago from
Philadelphia. He's back in the Windy City after working as
assistant special agent in charge of the Chicago field office from
2000 to 2003.

"I have a fresh set of eyes," the superintendent-elect said. "I've


got different ideas."

"The one thing I'm proud of at the FBI is, although we're not
perfect, we do have a pretty good reputation of policing
ourselves," Weis said.

And that may be one of the biggest reasons Daley chose the 49-
year-old Weis, the head of Philadelphia's FBI office, to lead
Chicago's scandal-plagued police.

Six officers of the now-disbanded Special Operations Section


face criminal charges. And two videotaped bar beatings have
drawn worldwide scorn. One of the beatings caught on
videotape allegedly showed Officer Anthony Abbate, 38, a 12-
year veteran of the Lincoln Police District, punching and kicking
bartender Karolina Obrycka, 24, at a Northwest Side tavern
while off duty on Feb.19. Abbate is facing felony aggravated
battery charges in the attack, which was caught on an overhead
security camera.

Less than a week later, four businessmen alleged that in


December, they were beaten by six off-duty officers at a Near
West Side bar. One of them required facial reconstructive
surgery, attorneys for the men alleged. Three officers have
been charged in that incident.

"That's horrific. That's absolutely horrific, we cannot tolerate


that stuff," Weis said.

Weis will have to restore the public's trust after the scandals
that have plagued the department.

Daley named interim superintendent Dana Starks as the new,


full-time head of the Human Relations Commission. Daley said a

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search for top-notch quality led him to look outside the city for
a new top cop.

"I saw fit to get the best possible candidate, regardless of


where they came from," Daley said. "That was my vision."

Weis would not only oversee the city's 13,400 sworn officers
and the 5,000 people in civilian positions, but also fill the vacant
job of Chief Emergency Officer for the Office of Emergency
Management and Communications. While wearing two hats,
Weis would be paid $300,000 a year.

The president of the Chicago Fraternal Order of Police says it


was quite a surprise the mayor went outside the department for
his choice for top cop.

"There are qualified, confident individuals from within the


department that could have filled that position and it would
have probably sent a stronger message to the members of the
department, of his confidence," FOP President Mark Donahue
said.

While Donahue says he's looking forward to working with Weis,


he added," The rank and file would probably, would feel, more
comfortable in working for someone who's come up through the
ranks, that understands the difficulty of the job they perform
everyday."

"I do think I have enough years in law enforcement, and I don't


make any pretense to be a police officer. I do not do the things
police officers have done. I admire them so much," Weis said.

But longtime critics of police abuse believe the mayor sent a


strong message.

"The fact that he comes from the outside means he doesn't


carry with him the baggage and corruption that has dogged this
police department for so long," said Locke Bowman of the
McArthur Justice Center.

Weis promised a thorough review of police command personnel


and promised to lead the fight against police abuse.

"You stop it with stern leadership. I have to set the tone right
from the beginning that that type of behavior won't be
tolerated," Weis said. "And I've got to put that through all the
command staff. I've got to pick a command staff that won't
allow that type of behavior."

In appointing Weis, Daley said police needed to focus both on


vigilance in fighting crime and ensuring they maintain the trust
of the public.

"We're gong to do all we can to lower crime in Chicago," the


mayor said. "But the people must have confidence that the

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police are doing their job."

He said officers need to know that "allegations of misconduct


will be investigated fairly and responsibly." That was the
purpose of creating the new Office of Professional Standards,
which is now called the Independent Police Review Board and is
under the oversight of the mayor's office instead of the Police
Department, Daley said.

"Jody Weis is uniquely qualified to both implement his strategies


in our fight against crime and assure the conduct of police
officers," Daley said, noting Weis' achievements as an FBI agent.

Weis said he has been in the military and law enforcement for
his entire adult life, and understood the issues confronting the
Chicago Police Department well. At the news conference on his
appointment, Weis said discussed the need to combat gangs,
guns and drugs in many neighborhoods in the city, but also
noted that some officers had breached the public's trust, and,
"people's confidence in the department needs to be rebuilt."

Weis' nomination must be approved by city council. He wouldn't


start his new job, until January 16.

Weis has also worked in Houston, Phoenix and Los Angeles.

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GC Marciano quote:
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
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"The one thing I'm proud of at the FBI is ... we
do have a pretty good reputation of policing
ourselves," Weis said.

WHAT THE FUCK?? Are you kidding me? That's gotta be the all
Registered: Jul 2003 time dumbest thing I've heard anybody say.
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Satyr Cops is our friend... Yes their very good, but..........


The little bird that sings

Not if they try to hire a hitman to kill you! Just remember

FOLKS! POLICE OFFICERS ARE YOUR FRIENDS!

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Chicago Policeman Is Charged in Case of Murder-for-Hire

By MICHAEL WILSON
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for a funeral home owned by the officer's family, the police said
Friday.

The officer, Edward Leak Jr., 42, had opened a $500,000 life
insurance policy for the victim, Fred Hamilton, 35, naming himself
as the beneficiary, the police said. Two other people who
prosecutors say were the gunmen have been charged with murder.
Telephone records and a confession from one of those men led the
police to Officer Leak, officials said.

Officer Leak was arrested as he showed up for work at police


headquarters Thursday. He appeared before Judge Raymond Myles
of the Circuit Court of Cook County on Friday and was denied bond,
standard in capital cases. He is charged with first-degree murder
and solicitation to commit murder for hire. His preliminary hearing
is scheduled for Aug. 5.

Mr. Hamilton was found shot several times on the night of Feb. 3,
2004, on the South Side of Chicago. Officers caught one man
running away, John Brown, 33, the police said. Mr. Brown's trial is
pending. A second man, Alfred Marley, 44, was arrested this year
and pleaded guilty after giving a videotaped confession implicating
Officer Leak, said John Gorman, a spokesman for Richard A.
Devine, the Cook County state's attorney.

Investigators found that there had been more than 600 telephone
calls between Officer Leak and Mr. Brown in the weeks before and
after the shooting, Mr. Gorman and a lawyer representing Mr.
Hamilton's family said.

The police said Mr. Hamilton had contacted Internal Affairs and said
Officer Leak was stealing money from his family's funeral home,
Leak & Sons. A warrant was out for Mr. Hamilton's arrest on
extortion charges, but he was killed before the police located him,
Mr. Gorman said.

State Farm Insurance has been sued by Mr. Hamilton's estate for
providing the motivation for the killing, said the family's lawyer,
Fredrick B. Barder.

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Location:
Posts: 31403 CHICAGO (STNG) -- A former Chicago Police officer was sentenced
to 75 years in prison today for plotting a murder-for-hire.

Edward Leak, 45, was given the sentence by Judge Diane Gordon
Cannon at the Cook County Criminal Courthouse.

A jury last month deliberated for six hours before finding Leak
guilty of hiring two men to kill Fred Hamilton — on whom Leak held
a $500,000 life insurance policy. One of the alleged hit men, John
Brown, stood trial with Leak and was also convicted.

Assistant State's Attorney Tom Mahoney last month said Leak “was
the mastermind who set up this entire hit on Fred Hamilton."

Hamilton, 35, was shot nine times Feb. 3, 2004. Officers arrested
Brown fleeing the scene. The other hit man, Alfred Marley, was
arrested later and pleaded guilty in exchange for a 27-year
sentence. Marley testified against Leak and Brown.

In addition to being a 14-year veteran of the Chicago Police


Department, Leak is the nephew of Spencer Leak, president of Leak
and Sons funeral homes on the South Side and former executive
director of Cook County Jail.

Hamilton had been an employee of the Leak funeral homes, and


sources said Edward Leak and Hamilton were ripping off the
business together. The men had also leased cars and taken out
credit cards together.

Defense lawyers said at the trial the financial relationship between


the men explained the life insurance policy, on which Leak
submitted a claim after Hamilton's murder.

But prosecutors said testimony, as well as cell phone records,


proved Leak coordinated Hamilton’s murder.

Leak has been in the Cook County Jail since July 15, 2005.

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You Paid For All The Food, And State's Attorney Office Ate It
Registered: Nov 2004 By Amy Mack | Daily Herald 9/16/2007
Location: Chicago area
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http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=39057

You can easily see the white boutonniere that has become McHenry
County State's Attorney Lou Bianchi's signature trademark.

Much less visible -- but far more costly to taxpayers -- is his


apparent sweet tooth.

Bianchi has had taxpayers pay for about $17,000 worth of candy,
cookies, chocolate, cakes, ice cream, soda pop, doughnuts, bagels,
coffee and meals for his well-fed office and Bianchi guests since

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January 2005.

Freedom of Information Act requests for records of


reimbursements, checks and receipts reveal Country Donuts,
Dunkin' Donuts, Jewel Foods and Sam's Club are Bianchi's apparent
favorites, appearing frequently among the almost $60,000 in total
expenses and petty cash disbursements Bianchi or his assistant
have turned in during his tenure.

Bianchi says all of the expenses are a legitimate use of tax dollars,
pointing to food purchased for staff members who work very long
hours and candy used as part of the department's anti-drug
program, as examples.

His predecessor turned in about $6,400 total such expenses during


his final four-year term.

Some of Bianchi's requests were for hotel and conference


registration expenses, which normally are not routed through petty
cash. No other McHenry County department does it that way.

Fine dining

Among the bills turned in for reimbursement, taxpayers paid for


Bianchi's $714 swearing-in luncheon and $626 for another meal
provided by Pete's Deli.

It seems he took just about every police chief in the county out to
lunch along the way. Some got Pirro's or Biaggi's. Others had to
settle for Applebee's.

Did you know you taxpayers paid $219 for a visit to Portillo's and
$162 for a meal at Shaw's Crabhouse for the state's attorney's staff?

That's nothing compared to the candy and sweets bills.

At the end of his first full year in office, Bianchi turned in one
receipt for almost $900 alone from one Sam's Club visit for cookies
and "fruit wheels."

Thankfully, we taxpayers only had to pay $3.41 for the Dairy Queen
trip.

Plenty of local restaurants should be glad he's in office. Then there's


Sam's Club and Jewel, where the state's attorney has, apparently,
also spent a lot of time.

Sometimes we taxpayers got off easy.

Take March 7, 2007. We only had to pay $2.38 for the state's
attorney's coffee and a whole grain bagel. The day before we
taxpayers bought coffee for two of Bianchi's investigators and a
Blimpie's sandwich for his assistant.

One day we paid $143 for the state's attorney and eight staffers to

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enjoy Pirro's.

"Since there's no county credit card," according to his request for


reimbursement, he also turned in requests for $300 for a bunch of
Pirro gift certificates to use for "special meetings."

Sweet deal

The Republican state's attorney says they were business expenses,


part of the cost of spreading the word about his programs.

The McHenry County Auditor says it's just wrong.

In her first full term as auditor, Pam Palmer says she was dismayed
to find the glut of meals and sweets on the state's attorney's
expenses that she analyzed after receiving the Freedom of
Information Act requests.

"I'm just shocked," said Palmer, also a Republican. "Myself, I never


would have done those things."

She already was working on narrowing the county's business


expense reimbursement policy and said the Bianchi expenditures
will put that on the front burner.

She will ask McHenry County Board members to change the


expense policy so that her office doesn't have to pay some of these
types of reimbursement requests.

As it stands, an elected official like Bianchi can get repaid for those
expenses as long as they're within the budget approved by the
county board, Palmer said.

Until policy changes, however, it seems taxpayers will have to


continue to pick up the tab for lunches, doughnuts, coffee and
candy. Lots of candy.

PR or politics?

Still, Palmer refused Bianchi's latest requests to be reimbursed for


some of those sweets.

According to documents obtained through the Freedom of


Information Act, the auditor nixed the latest attempts to turn in
about $400 in receipts for parade candy as "political" versus public
expenditures.

No other elected McHenry County officials ask taxpayers to cover


the parade candy they toss to the crowd. Nor have they asked
taxpayers to pay those parade entry fees.

"It's clearly political," the auditor said.

Bianchi says those are legitimate costs and are part of his anti-drug
program.

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"We're trying to reach out to children and save them from drugs so
we don't see them in court," Bianchi said, questioning why the
auditor's office previously approved reimbursement for some of
those candy expenditures.

Palmer said those approvals were inappropriate and were due to


limited manpower handling more than 37,000 bills a year. She now
personally will examine all state's attorney submissions, she said.

Long days

Asked why taxpayers should buy his meals, Bianchi defended the
food costs by saying his staff works long days, as does he. "I work
from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. and sometimes that's my lunch," he said of
the Dairy Queen bill. "I ask every lawyer to work extra time every
day. … They're giving an extra 3¼ weeks a year in exchange for $7
for dinner."

He said he has to front all the office expenses since there is no


office credit card and uses the restaurant certificates to feed
witnesses and staff members during trials.

"If they're not legitimate, then the auditor should be sending them
back," Bianchi said, adding that one of the hefty lunches was for
civil division staffers to celebrate saving the county "millions of
dollars" in a lawsuit.

"It's not for me," he said of the food expenses. "It's for whoever I'm
with. I'm sure every public official does the same."

If they do, they don't ask taxpayers to pay them back.

"I do not see this level of activity from other elected officials in the
county," said Palmer, who has now checked every elected McHenry
County official's reimbursement requests.

"And it's not anywhere near this dollar value."

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Senior Member By Amy Mack | Daily Herald Published: 9/19/2007

Registered: Nov 2004 http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=40767


Location: Chicago area
Posts: 103 McHenry County Auditor Pam Palmer says she's taking steps to
make sure there is no repeat of the almost $60,000 paid out in
petty cash and individual reimbursements to McHenry County
State's Attorney Lou Bianchi since he took office.

"A petty cash fund is to be used for minor, nonrecurring types of


expenditures, especially when immediate payment is required," the
auditor said Tuesday. "I'll be looking at strengthening the areas I
feel need to be strengthened."

Palmer said she will meet with the state's attorney and county
officials to discuss the glut of payments discovered after this
newspaper filed Freedom of Information Act requests. More than
$17,000 of those expenditures were for meals, candy, doughnuts,
pop and other goodies, all paid for by taxpayers since early 2005.

"I will be talking to them," Palmer said. "I will be talking to them a
lot about petty cash and what goes through there."

The auditor stressed it's vital to use regular payment processes for
accurate record-keeping as well as an audit trail.

Do you suppose anyone will bring doughnuts to that meeting?

You decide

In case anyone wants to check for themselves, we've posted a


spreadsheet of reimbursement requests from the state's attorney.
I've also requested the $30,000-plus in petty cash reimbursements
and will post those once we receive them in the correct format.

See the reimbursement spreadsheet:

DOC # CK # PAID VENDOR AMOUNT DESCRIPTION


VD220310 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $7.86 Water for Office
VD220310 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $14.18 Breakfast
meeting
VD220310 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $11.91 Refreshments
for office
VD220310 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $50.00 Meeting with
ASA's and Detectives - Rodgers
VD220310 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $8.00 Meeting with
LIght & Sarbaugh
VD220310 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $8.92 AM Meeting
VD220310 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.73 Refreshments for
office
VD220310 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $118.56 Cell phone bill
VD220380 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $46.04 Office Depot -
supplies

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VD220380 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $35.91 Jewel-Osco


VD220380 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $95.83 Hobby-Lobby -
mirrors for office
VD220380 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $37.01 Office Depot -
supplies
VD220380 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $321.54 Portillo's
VD220380 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $425.00 IL State's Atty
- Training Session
VD220380 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $15.96 Office Depot -
supplies
VD220381 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $230.03 Office Depot -
transcriber
VD220381 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $24.09 Blimpies -
Meeting
VD220381 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $7.54 Blimpies -
Meeting
VD220381 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $44.00 Travel Expense
for Training
VD220381 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $10.20 Office Depot -
supplies
VD220381 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $1.91 Ace Hardware -
hook for key
VD220381 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $26.36 Jewel - Sam's
VD220381 308766 02/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $17.50 Country Donuts
VD220480 309085 02/07/05 BIANCHI LOU $220.69 Westin - SA
Training
VD220480 309085 02/07/05 BIANCHI LOU $229.00 ARDC Dues
VD220480 309085 02/07/05 BIANCHI LOU $206.04 Hobby Lobby -
mirrors for office
VD220480 309085 02/07/05 BIANCHI LOU $57.48 Office Max -
desk pads
VD220480 309085 02/07/05 BIANCHI LOU $67.08 Best Buy - 2
port
VD220480 309085 02/07/05 BIANCHI LOU $50.00 Coursebook-
Criminal Dispositions
VD220480 309085 02/07/05 BIANCHI LOU $93.72 Lowe's purchase
VD220480 309085 02/07/05 BIANCHI LOU $714.28 Swearing In
Luncheon
VD221336 311390 03/21/05 BIANCHI LOU $19.08 Sam's Club
VD221336 311390 03/21/05 BIANCHI LOU $34.18 Sam's Club
VD221336 311390 03/21/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.84 Office Depot
VD221336 311390 03/21/05 BIANCHI LOU $100.00 Meeting
Expense
VD221336 311390 03/21/05 BIANCHI LOU $1.50 Parking -
Rockford
VD221336 311390 03/21/05 BIANCHI LOU $1.50 Parking -
Rockford
VD221336 311390 03/21/05 BIANCHI LOU $14.08 Jewel
VD221336 311390 03/21/05 BIANCHI LOU $12.20 Jewel
VD221527 311934 04/04/05 BIANCHI LOU $11.50 Sam's
VD221527 311934 04/04/05 BIANCHI LOU $5.33 Jewel
VD221527 311934 04/04/05 BIANCHI LOU $34.00 Road Ranger -
gas

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VD221527 311934 04/04/05 BIANCHI LOU $7.17 Sebastian's


VD221527 311934 04/04/05 BIANCHI LOU $10.20 Dunkin Donuts
VD221527 311934 04/04/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.12 Oglesby Shell
VD221527 311934 04/04/05 BIANCHI LOU $11.43 Eureka
VD221527 311934 04/04/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.41 Dairy Queen
VD221592 312222 04/11/05 BIANCHI LOU $103.27 2 ****
Dictators, fax cartridges
VD221592 312222 04/11/05 BIANCHI LOU $15.00 MADD Statistics
& Goals Meeting
VD221592 312222 04/11/05 BIANCHI LOU $4.04 Jewel - meeting
expense
VD221752 312583 04/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $33.03 Pirro's - Meeting
Judge Prather/Sheriff Nygren
VD221752 312583 04/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $8.51 Jewel
VD221752 312583 04/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $43.35 Last Change
Saloon - Lunch Mtg. Lake Co. SA
VD221752 312583 04/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $17.19 Jewel - Coffee
for Office
VD221752 312583 04/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $2.21 Appellate
Prosecutors Qtr Mtg - Springfield
VD221752 312583 04/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $2.26 Appellate
Prosecutors Qtr Mtg - Springfield
VD221752 312583 04/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $30.40 Appellate
Prosecutors Qtr Mtg - Springfield
VD221752 312583 04/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.75 Appellate
Prosecutors Qtr Mtg - Springfield
VD222250 313875 04/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $5.37 Meeting re:
forgery or certification breathalyzer
VD222250 313875 04/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $7.25 Country Donuts -
Civil Division Buildout
VD222250 313875 04/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $30.00 Woodstock
Public House
VD222250 313875 04/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.55 Country Donuts -
Civil Division Buildout
VD222250 313875 04/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $183.21 Verizon
VD222250 313875 04/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $41.50 Best Buy - Ink
cartridges
VD222250 313875 04/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $74.54 Best Buy -
router
VD222250 313875 04/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $23.37 Pirro's - Salgado
- Mental Health Court
VD222304 314165 05/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $53.15 Office Depot -
Recorder
VD222304 314165 05/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $4.26 Jewel
VD222304 314165 05/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $11.50 Sam's
VD222304 314165 05/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $22.93 Jewel
VD222304 314165 05/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.55 Country Donuts
VD222304 314165 05/02/05 BIANCHI LOU $13.00 McHenry County
Bar Association
VD222824 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.99 McDonald's
VD222824 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $25.12 Pirro's
VD222824 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $13.97 Swiss Maid

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Bakery
VD222824 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $32.55 Pirro's
VD222824 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $5.35 Country Donuts
VD222824 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $48.00 McHenry County
Council of Governments
VD222824 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $5.00 Fast Eddie's
VD222824 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.60 McHenry County
College
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $24.01 Sam's Club
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $28.02 Sam's Club
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $2.08 Portillo's
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $18.36 Barnelli's Pasta
Bowl
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $29.57 Woodstock
Public House
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $13.73 Swiss Maid
Bakery
VD222825 315427 06/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $16.80 Jewel
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $9.10 Move -
maintenance - Country Donuts
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $2.85 Salgado/McCleary
Mtg - Dunkin Donuts
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.20 SA Meeting
5/25/05 - Jewel
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $28.22 Coffee - SA
office - Wisted's
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $1.78 Napkins for office
- Jewel
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $50.00 Meeting -
attorney move - Woodstock Pub Hse
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $59.46 Mats, flashlight -
Sam's
VD223216 316336 06/20/05 BIANCHI LOU $67.08 Blimpies -
moving
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $23.34 Meeting -
Rhodes & Sarbaugh - Pirro's
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $37.23 Meeting -
Brophy & Chief Marvin - Jailhouse
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $7.00 Meeting -
McCleary/Salgado/Josh
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $9.92 Meeting re:
Mental Health Court - Atlanta Bread
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $1.50 Meeting re:
Mental Health Court Parking
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $463.79 Sam's -
Shelves
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $325.00 2005 Summer
Training Conference
VD223354 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.88 Meeting re:
Mental Health Court D.Q.
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $39.97 Maintenance
movers - Sub Zero
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $12.10 Sam's - Coffee &

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Creamer
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $60.10 Sam's - McAuliff
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $10.54 Jewel - McAuliff
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $7.25 Meeting - Country
Donuts
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.88 Meeting - Dunkin'
Donuts
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.54 Bohn's Ace
Hardware
VD223356 316638 06/27/05 BIANCHI LOU $4.87 Meeting - Dunkin
Donuts
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $7.58 Food Court - SA
Conference
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $548.32 Westin Hotel -
Summer Training Conference
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $4.35 Food Court - SA
Conference
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $20.00 Panera Bread -
SA Seminar
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.02 Walmart - tool
box
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $26.14 Sam's Club -
Supervisor meeting
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $2.01 Food Court - SA
Conference
VD223661 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $4.16 Food Court - SA
Conference
VD223732 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $37.26 Cheesecake
Factory
VD223732 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $4.61 Walgreens
VD223732 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $8.92 Walgreens
VD223732 317550 07/18/05 BIANCHI LOU $5.90 McDonalds
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $34.96 Woodstock
Public House - Mtg. - press
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $18.19 Jewel -
Attorneys' meeting
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $50.31 Biaggi's -
Meeting Chief Laine
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $5.21 Wendy's - lunch -
Amy
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $35.00 Meeting with
Chief Regnier
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $16.66 Sam's - Staff
Meeting
VD223837 317859 07/25/05 BIANCHI LOU $30.00 Henny Penny -
Meeting with Chief Rydberg
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $8.85 Dunkin Donuts -
Munarello
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $51.38 Jewel - Foley
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $76.49 Panera - Mental
Health Court
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $12.94 Wisted's -

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Reiman
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $140.00 Napoli's -
Reiman
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $55.47 Birthday Jubilee
- Reiman
VD223985 318184 08/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.31 Walmart - Reiman
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $116.64 Sam's Club
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $41.46 Jewel
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $31.90 Borders
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $43.49 Meeting with
Chief - Algonquin/LITH
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.39 Jewel
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $11.50 Sam's Club
VD224483 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $30.87 Best Buy
VD224484 319680 09/06/05 BIANCHI LOU $29.61 Sam's
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $3.20 Jewel
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.38 Jewel
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $143.32 Pirro's
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.25 Country Donuts
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $30.00 Meeting Chief
Sauers
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $27.95 Meeting Chief
Bero
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $19.00 Meeting with
Chief Downing
VD224795 320211 09/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $6.38 Jewel
VD224884 320539 09/26/05 BIANCHI LOU $42.57 Sam's
VD224884 320539 09/26/05 BIANCHI LOU $882.54 Sam's
VD225111 321280 10/11/05 BIANCHI LOU $10.81 Three Brothers -
lawsuits
VD225111 321280 10/11/05 BIANCHI LOU $27.00 Chief Lunch - Lt.
Lynch - Union
VD225111 321280 10/11/05 BIANCHI LOU $21.30 The Flag Store
VD225111 321280 10/11/05 BIANCHI LOU $82.56 Popeyes -
Meeting - Finance
VD225111 321280 10/11/05 BIANCHI LOU $24.96 The Jailhouse -
personnel meeting
VD225296 321557 10/17/05 BIANCHI LOU $20.87 Jewel
VD225296 321557 10/17/05 BIANCHI LOU $10.00 Jewel
VD225296 321557 10/17/05 BIANCHI LOU $10.81 Three Brothers
VD225296 321557 10/17/05 BIANCHI LOU $28.60 Union Pacific
and Cabs
VD225296 321557 10/17/05 BIANCHI LOU $11.50 Sam's
VD225511 322257 11/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $109.50 Car
Maintenance
VD225511 322257 11/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $1,407.09 SA
Conference Expenses
VD225511 322257 11/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $24.18 Prime Hoffman
Meeting
VD225511 322257 11/01/05 BIANCHI LOU $23.44 Meeting with
Chief Smith
VD225684 322572 11/07/05 BIANCHI LOU $27.10 Country Donuts
- Mental Health Meeting

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VD225684 322572 11/07/05 BIANCHI LOU $9.62 Jewel


VD225684 322572 11/07/05 BIANCHI LOU $45.74 Sam's
VD225684 322572 11/07/05 BIANCHI LOU $67.10 Domino's -
Police Seminar
VD225918 323209 11/21/05 BIANCHI LOU $33.52 Meeting Peter
Austin and architects
VD225918 323209 11/21/05 BIANCHI LOU $35.36 Walmart
VD225918 323209 11/21/05 BIANCHI LOU $26.10 Meeting with
Chief Loporchio
VD225918 323209 11/21/05 BIANCHI LOU $31.80 Breakfast
meeting 10/27/05
VD225918 323209 11/21/05 BIANCHI LOU $24.00 Meeting with
Chief Sosnowski
VD226229 323973 12/12/05 BIANCHI LOU $39.53 Sam's
VD226229 323973 12/12/05 BIANCHI LOU $28.00 Village Squire -
Chief O'Meara
VD226229 323973 12/12/05 BIANCHI LOU $2.12 Farm & Fleet
VD226229 323973 12/12/05 BIANCHI LOU $57.51 Sam's
VD226229 323973 12/12/05 BIANCHI LOU $449.84 Sam's
VD226346 324290 12/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $587.46 State's
Attorney Winter Conference - Chicago
VD226346 324290 12/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $25.00 Menards
VD226346 324290 12/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $30.00 Meeting
Beaderstadt & Carroll
VD226346 324290 12/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $300.00 Meeting site
preparation & cleanup
VD226348 324291 12/19/05 BIANCHI LOU $55.93 Countryside
VD226714 324913 01/03/06 BIANCHI LOU $28.11 Tommy's - Mgr
Meeting
VD226714 324913 01/03/06 BIANCHI LOU $10.00 Jimmy John's -
Chief Mtg
VD226714 324913 01/03/06 BIANCHI LOU $5.49 Subway -
McCleary - Chicago
VD226714 324913 01/03/06 BIANCHI LOU $24.00 Lakeshore/Cab -
Meeting Federal Court
VD226714 324913 01/03/06 BIANCHI LOU $50.00 Trader Joe's -
Stanton Meeting
VD226714 324913 01/03/06 BIANCHI LOU $21.88 Sam's - First
Assistant
VD226928 325529 01/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $34.26 Sam's
VD226928 325529 01/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $14.80 Paradies Shops -
Mgmt Books
VD226928 325529 01/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $77.32 Police Seminar -
Admin Building
VD226928 325529 01/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $3.04 Walgreens
VD226928 325529 01/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $60.00 Pirro's
VD226928 325529 01/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $29.80 Vaughns
VD226928 325529 01/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $162.70 Shaw's
VD227372 326824 02/06/06 BIANCHI LOU $53.00 Manager's
Meeting
VD227372 326824 02/06/06 BIANCHI LOU $4.24 Bohn's Ace
Hardware - keys

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VD227372 326824 02/06/06 BIANCHI LOU $24.35 Blimpie's -


meeting
VD227372 326824 02/06/06 BIANCHI LOU $31.22 Meeting
Gerhardt - Young
VD227372 326824 02/06/06 BIANCHI LOU $1.70 Stamps - US Post
Office
VD227372 326824 02/06/06 BIANCHI LOU $67.59 Sam's
VD227450 327173 02/14/06 BIANCHI LOU $20.00 Jimmy John's
VD227450 327173 02/14/06 BIANCHI LOU $123.12 Sam's
VD227450 327173 02/14/06 BIANCHI LOU $4.26 Jewel
VD227450 327173 02/14/06 BIANCHI LOU $9.23 Taco Bell
VD227450 327173 02/14/06 BIANCHI LOU $6.75 Joe's Place
VD227450 327173 02/14/06 BIANCHI LOU $16.92 Joe's Place
VD228035 328426 03/13/06 BIANCHI LOU $15.71 Sam's
VD228035 328426 03/13/06 BIANCHI LOU $85.13 Sam's
VD228035 328426 03/13/06 BIANCHI LOU $23.00 Sam's
VD228035 328426 03/13/06 BIANCHI LOU $24.57 Pirro's - Meeting
with Judge Prather
VD228361 329136 03/27/06 BIANCHI LOU $60.00 Executive
Committee - Springfield
VD228361 329136 03/27/06 BIANCHI LOU $25.56 Chipotle -
Carroll, Lee, Ullrick
VD228361 329136 03/27/06 BIANCHI LOU $20.85 Office Depot
VD228361 329136 03/27/06 BIANCHI LOU $52.45 United States
Post Office
VD228958 332001 04/24/06 BIANCHI LOU $27.45 Napoli's - Civil
Division Meeting
VD228958 332001 04/24/06 BIANCHI LOU $100.00 Pirro's
VD228958 332001 04/24/06 BIANCHI LOU $23.81 Sam's Club
VD228958 332001 04/24/06 BIANCHI LOU $88.09 Sam's Club
VD228958 332001 04/24/06 BIANCHI LOU $109.50 Fast Eddie's
VD228958 332001 04/24/06 BIANCHI LOU $20.09 Jewel
VD228958 332001 04/24/06 BIANCHI LOU $26.56 Sam's Club
VD228958 332001 04/24/06 BIANCHI LOU $24.69 Award Emblem
Mfg
VD229381 333009 05/15/06 BIANCHI LOU $39.29 NIKO'S
VD229381 333009 05/15/06 BIANCHI LOU $27.21 JEWEL
VD229381 333009 05/15/06 BIANCHI LOU $58.79 KNUTH'S
VD229381 333009 05/15/06 BIANCHI LOU $194.94 HARRY
CARAY'S--DETROIT TRAINING MTG
VD229510 333010 05/15/06 BIANCHI LOU $22.99 Pirro's
VD229510 333010 05/15/06 BIANCHI LOU $17.33 Jewel
VD229510 333010 05/15/06 BIANCHI LOU $12.76 Jewel
VD229619 333365 05/22/06 BIANCHI LOU $200.00 Pirro's - for
lunch meetings
VD229739 333670 05/30/06 BIANCHI LOU $3.03 Wisted's
VD229739 333670 05/30/06 BIANCHI LOU $10.26 Dunkin Donuts
VD229739 333670 05/30/06 BIANCHI LOU $31.94 Jewel
VD229739 333670 05/30/06 BIANCHI LOU $13.45 Jewel
VD229739 333670 05/30/06 BIANCHI LOU $36.85 Pirro's - meeting
VD229835 333933 06/05/06 BIANCHI LOU $10.75 Burger King
VD229835 333933 06/05/06 BIANCHI LOU $41.20 Sam's Club
VD229835 333933 06/05/06 BIANCHI LOU $24.00 McHenry County

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Chiefs of Police Meeting


VD229835 333933 06/05/06 BIANCHI LOU $8.10 Deals
VD230034 334311 06/12/06 BIANCHI LOU $25.52 Pirro's
VD230034 334311 06/12/06 BIANCHI LOU $65.87 Sam's
VD230147 334638 06/19/06 BIANCHI LOU $17.67 Aware Emblem
Mfg.
VD230147 334638 06/19/06 BIANCHI LOU $63.22 Vaughan's
VD230240 334961 06/26/06 BIANCHI LOU $405.00 Section 1983
Civil Rights
VD230432 335328 07/03/06 BIANCHI LOU $77.66 Sam's
VD230432 335328 07/03/06 BIANCHI LOU $3.56 CL Citgo
VD230432 335328 07/03/06 BIANCHI LOU $60.00 Vaughan's -
Manager's Meeting
VD230677 335905 07/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $133.84 Sam's Cllub
VD230677 335905 07/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $35.42 Jewel
VD230677 335905 07/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $26.41 Jewel
VD230677 335905 07/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $4.25 Country Donuts
VD230677 335905 07/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $46.37 Adriana's
VD230677 335905 07/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $6.92 Walmart
VD230677 335905 07/17/06 BIANCHI LOU $1.44 Citgo
VD230905 336617 08/01/06 BIANCHI LOU $80.85 Hobby Lobby
VD230905 336617 08/01/06 BIANCHI LOU $60.67 Jewel
VD230905 336617 08/01/06 BIANCHI LOU $50.00 Three Brothers
VD230905 336617 08/01/06 BIANCHI LOU $37.64 Vaughan's
VD230905 336617 08/01/06 BIANCHI LOU $7.08 McDonalds
VD231050 336894 08/07/06 BIANCHI LOU $148.64 Mgr meetings
VD231050 336894 08/07/06 BIANCHI LOU $12.21 Jewel - cards
VD231215 337148 08/14/06 BIANCHI LOU $174.17 Meetings
VD231347 337489 08/21/06 BIANCHI LOU $274.94 Peo vs. Quilici
meetings/Senior Fair
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Judge Hutchinson
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& Sams
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Marathon
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fuel
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VD232331 339784 10/10/06 BIANCHI LOU $60.71 3 Stars Pizza &
Subway
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meetings - Bianchi
VD232513 340475 10/23/06 BIANCHI LOU $109.50 Fast Eddie's -
car washes county car

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VD232513 340475 10/23/06 BIANCHI LOU $580.07 Supplies
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Jewel
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meetings
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Open House
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VD233956 344129 12/19/06 BIANCHI LOU $659.81 State's
Attorney's Winter Conference
VD233956 344129 12/19/06 BIANCHI LOU $32.69 ****** charger
and parts
VD234357 345150 01/09/07 BIANCHI LOU $3.04 Walgreens -
bandaids for office
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Marathon
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Citrix
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Grove & Algonquin
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Meeting - Subway
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Expense 1/18/07 - 1/26/07
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Bar Association
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Manager's Meeting
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Sam's
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Subway
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Solutions
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meeting
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Meeting
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Cell Phone Battery
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Pirros
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Walgreens/Jewel/Sams
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- Indeck Hearing
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Organization Victim Assistance
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Jewel, Sams
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Depot
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- US Atty Mtg & SA Conference
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Seminar, Mgr Meeting, lunch meetings

25,992.44

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09-27-2007 08:52 PM

chitownbrian Auditor Slams States Atty


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McHenry County Auditor Calls Bianchi Expenses Excessive


Registered: Nov 2004 By Amy Mack Daily Herald Published: 9/19/2007
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 103
Taxpayers picked up the tab for many a breakfast, lunch or dinner
for McHenry County State's Attorney Lou Bianchi or his staff, county
records show.

A list obtained through Freedom of Information requests of the


McHenry County auditor show taxpayers paid for everything from
Bianchi's $714 inaugural luncheon to a $3.14 Dairy Queen visit.

In between were plenty of visits to restaurants like Pirro's in


Woodstock, a spot so popular for the state's attorney and his staff,
they purchased gift certificates to use when assistant state's
attorneys worked late or needed lunch.

That list shows the total of individual reimbursements given to


Bianchi as an individual since January 2005 and is part of almost
$60,000 in petty cash and individual reimbursements during his
tenure.

The state's attorney says the large amounts are due to the lack of a
county credit card forcing him to pay out of pocket for office
expenses.

"We do not have a county credit card," Bianchi said. "As a result, I
advance every expense in the office for every attorney in the office.
"Those aren't my expenses. Every expense in this office has to be
advanced."

After seeing the lengthy list generated by the Freedom of


Information Act request, McHenry County Auditor Pam Palmer
called the amounts excessive and inappropriate. She has indicated
she will ask the county board to initiate restrictions, particularly on
food expenditures.

Why isn't the auditor bouncing them back?," Bianchi asked. "The
whole purpose of the audit is to review the bills."

"A petty cash fund is to be used for minor, nonrecurring types of


expenditures, especially when immediate payment is required," the
auditor said Tuesday. "I'll be looking at strengthening the areas I
feel need to be strengthened."

"It's not just for me, but for whoever I'm with," Bianchi said. "I'm
sure every elected official does the same.

"The only time I've asked for reimbursement is when it's a

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legitimate office meeting with witnesses or staff."

Palmer said she will meet with the state's attorney and county
officials to discuss the glut of payments discovered after this
newspaper filed Freedom of Information Act requests. More than
$17,000 of those expenditures were for meals, candy, doughnuts,
pop and other goodies, all paid for by taxpayers since early 2005.

"I will be talking to them," Palmer said. "I will be talking to them a
lot about petty cash and what goes through there."

The auditor stressed it's vital to use regular payment processes for
accurate record-keeping as well as an audit trail.

APPEARED HERE: http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=41120

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chitownbrian Bianchi Blows A gasket!!!


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Taxpayers Paying For Candy And More


Registered: Nov 2004 By Amy Mack | Daily Herald 9/23/2007
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 103
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=43860

Soft-spoken and somewhat hesitant, Pam Palmer seems more


suited to the public library than in a political hornet's nest. But she's
smack in the middle of a doozy.

The fallout sent the McHenry County Auditor home in tears last
week. That sure seems like poor pay for just doing her job.

McHenry County State's Attorney Lou Bianchi -- referred to of late


as "The Candy Man" by some in the McHenry County Government
Center after revelations he's spent more than $17,000 of taxpayer
money on candy, doughnuts, coffee, soda pop and meals since
taking office -- is, apparently, not so sweet when crossed.

Depending on whom you talk to, a meeting in the county


administrator's office on Thursday was either a genteel
conversation or a fracas -- or somewhere in between.

Ultimately, several involved say, the meeting resulted in some


positive moves toward fixing the mess, but the state's attorney
brought some courtroom theatrics with him. Nothing like slapping a
table to make your point, I guess, and chastising someone for
talking to the press.

The state's attorney concedes he "may have slapped the table" as

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well as discussed Palmer's quoted comments after she compiled


those revealing documents for this newspaper in response to
Freedom of Information Act requests. But he said that there was no
yelling and, ultimately, it was a good meeting.

Not that there's anything wrong with a public official upset about
wrongdoing to talk to the press, but Palmer didn't come to the
media (meaning me.)

Why look into it?

I had heard that Palmer had rejected some of Bianchi's requests for
reimbursement for parade candy. Although Bianchi stands by his
belief that candy should be covered as part of his drug education
efforts, every other political figure seems to know that those are
considered political expenses, not something to ask taxpayers to
pay for.

The radar went off when I noticed he'd previously paid for that
candy out of his campaign funds. So I asked for more documents to
do a little double checking. Much to my amazement and,
apparently, the auditor's, those documents showed huge
expenditures for candy, doughnuts, soda pop and meal after meal.

Even if the auditor -- an official elected to keep an eye on those


expenditures -- had sought out the press, isn't that her right? If any
public official sees a wrong, shouldn't he or she spotlight it?

The auditor, clearly not accustomed to the fray some McHenry


County politicos relish, refused to comment.

I wonder why.

McHenry County Board Chairman Ken Koehler confirmed he called


the meeting and that it got a bit tense at times. "My hope was to
find out so I understood better what the exact problem was,"
Koehler said. "The bottom line is how can we make the system
work better?"

He said the auditor and Bianchi's assistant are sorting out a better
process for that office and that he hopes the solution will work for
all county offices. Of immediate concern, he said, they'll work to
end the use of the "petty cash" account.

"It was called petty cash, but it was used to run the operation,"
Koehler said.

Along the way, I hope they'll ask for lots more answers, including:

• Why did the state's attorney have taxpayers pay $100 for a
gift certificate to Dunhill's, one of McHenry County's nicest
restaurants?

• Why were taxpayers asked to pay $250 twice for the

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Huntley Fall Fest when, in fact, it only cost $250 for his booth?

• Why did he make taxpayers pay $25 for a Menard's gift


certificate?

• Why should taxpayers pick up the tab for a $162 dinner at


Shaw's Crabhouse in Chicago?

The state's attorney said he doesn't know the answers, but


promised late Friday to go back through the receipts and review
those and other reimbursement requests.

"I will take a further look at it," Bianchi said.

Asked again why taxpayers should pick up the tab for meals, coffee,
doughnuts, etc. for his office, the state's attorney defended the
practice because of the long hours required of his staff.

"If the county board changes its policy, we'll do whatever the policy
is," Bianchi said. "If the auditor has problems with our bills, she
should send them back."

Sometimes when people are on the hot seat, especially when their
jobs are on the line, they overreact, become defensive, go on the
attack. And, sometimes, people use the uncomfortable spot as an
opportunity to look at how they can do things better.

It's a given which one taxpayers prefer.

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Chicago Police Officer Arrested
Location:
Posts: 2330 A Chicago police officer is expected to appear in bond court today
on aggravated battery charges after allegedly breaking the jaw of a
15-year-old who had argued with the officer's son, according to the
department's Office of Professional Standards.

The unnamed officer, a 10-year-veteran assigned to the


department's Mass Transit Unit, was relieved of his police powers
and arrested Saturday night for the incident that happened on
Wednesday, according to officials.

The officer's teenage son was involved in an argument with the

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student at Juarez High School and the officer allegedly later


retaliated away from the school. The 15-year-old also suffered
various bruises, according to officials.

The incident was reported to police on Thursday.

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05-27-2007 03:15 PM

Maxima Why in the hell is he an "unnamed officer"? Why is his name not
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GC Marciano He is CPD Mass Transit Officer Robert Gallegos.


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Typical CPD piece of shit.

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05-27-2007 07:02 PM

GC Marciano PDF Document Attached


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Adobe's free PDF reader can be downloaded from:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

Attachment: press_release.pdf
This has been downloaded 5 time(s).

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GC Marciano Chicago police officer arrested


Copwatcher Extraordinaire By Andrew L. Wang
Tribune staff reporter
Published May 27, 2007, 2:32 PM CDT

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ack=1&cset=true

A Chicago police officer appeared in bond court Sunday on


aggravated battery charges after allegedly breaking the jaw of a
16-year-old who had argued with the officer's son, according to
Registered: Jul 2003 the department's Office of Professional Standards.
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 Robert Gallegos, a 10-year-veteran assigned to the
department's Mass Transit Unit, was relieved of his police
powers and arrested Saturday night for the incident that
happened on Wednesday, according to officials.

According to prosecutors, Gallegos' teenage son was involved in


an argument with the student at Juarez High School and the
officer later allegedly retaliated away from the school. The 16-
year-old also suffered various bruises, according to officials.

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The incident was reported to police on Thursday.

The teen was walking with two young women in an alley near
1928 S. May St. when he was approached by Gallegos and
another man. Gallegos identified himself as a police officer and
accused the teen of getting his son in trouble, prosecutors said
in court Sunday.

"He grabbed [the teen] about the body and shoved him up on a
garage door and punched him about the face," said the
prosecutor in court. After Cardenas fell to the ground, he and
the other man kicked Eduardo Cardenas about the body,
prosecutors said.

Cardenas was taken to Rush University Medical Center for a


broken jaw, which will be wired shut for three weeks,
prosecutors said. Judge Israel Desierto released Gallegos on a
$100,000 bail, ordered him to stay away from drugs and alcohol
and to stay away from Cardenas.

Gallegos attorney, Jim Thompson, said his client has no criminal


history and "as a police officer is a guardian of the community."

Thompson also said the teen was a gang member who "had
made threats against Mr. Gallegos and his family in the past."

Gallegos, who appeared in court on closed circuit television, is


scheduled to appear in court again June 1.

OPS has come under heavy scrutiny in recent weeks because of


their handling of two police beatings that were caught on
videotape. Mayor Richard Daley has said that he will separate
OPS from the Police Department because of criticism that the
agency was protecting officers instead of aggressively
investigating brutality allegations against them.

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Mack Interesting- how'd you end up with a copy of the press release?
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GC Marciano I found the Press Release download on the Chicago Tribune


Copwatcher Extraordinaire website:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...rack=sto-relcon

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July 25, 2007

CHICAGO - A Chicago police officer accused of breaking the jaw of a


15-year-old boy was indicted Tuesday on additional charges of
official misconduct and unlawful restraint.

Robert Gallegos, 41, was initially charged only with aggravated


battery.

"Our investigation uncovered evidence of more crimes, and the


grand jury returned indictments on him," said Andy Conklin, a
spokesman for the Cook County State's Attorney's office.

In May, Gallegos' teenage son was involved in a quarrel with a


fellow student at Juarez High School, and the officer, who was off
duty, attacked him in the Pilsen neighborhood later that day,
according to the Chicago Police Department's Office of Professional
Standards.

If found guilty, Gallegos would face up to 5 years in prison, officials


said.

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July 10, 2007


By Frank Main Special to the Daily Southtown

The city of Chicago cannot keep secret a list of 662 police officers
with more than 10 official complaints lodged against each of them
between 2001 and 2006, a federal judge has ruled.

The list could figure into the ongoing debate over whether the city
should change the way that complaints of police misconduct are
investigated and how officers are disciplined.

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The list would allow the public to see which police units have the
largest number of officers with multiple complaints against them
and if the officers were referred into "early warning" programs.

Last week, U.S. District Judge Joan Lefkow ordered the city to
release the list. The information was gathered by attorneys for a
woman who sued the city, claiming she was abused by officers.

City attorneys have filed an emergency motion to try to keep the


list secret until the city has the chance to appeal. The documents
should not be released because they did not become part of the
court proceedings and would invade the officers' privacy, according
to the city's argument.

But Lefkow said the documents were presumed to be public, writing


that "the public has a significant interest in monitoring the conduct
of its police officers and a right to know how allegations of
misconduct are being investigated and handled."

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mr.b These swine will fight tooth and nail to keep personnel files locked
Senior Member up and out of the public eye. I will be asking for personnel files
pretty soon and I know they will fight me. I can use this judges
opinion for my case now!!! Cops still think they are the secret
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ZoeJane Secret Police Misconduct List About To Go Public


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CHICAGO (WBBM) -- The city has one week to act, before a secret
list is made public that contains the names of more than 600
Chicago police officers who have had more then ten citizen
complaints filed against them over the last few years.

WBBM's Jennifer O'Neil reports.

A federal judge last week ruled the documents should not been kept
secret, and after the city filed an emergency motion to try and keep
the list sealed until it has the chance to appeal, the judge Monday
gave City Hall a one week stay.

The University of Chicago Law School's Craig Futterman, whose


representing a woman who claims she was abused by police, says
the papers will shed light on who the biggest offenders are.

Lawyers suing the city say the timing of this all is significant
because Chicago aldermen July 19th will open a debate on whether
the department's Office of Professional Standards should be
reformed.

The lawyers suing the city claim it paid its attorneys yesterday to
try and get the documents sealed from both the public and Chicago
aldermen and that the judge denied that request.

WBBM has talked to a spokesman with the city's corporation council


and is awaiting a response.

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CHICAGO POLICE | List of officers with more than 10 complaints
remains a secret

July 17, 2007


BY FRANK MAIN AND ABDON M. PALLASCH Staff Reporters

Records involving cops with more than 10 complaints against them


will remain secret until a federal appeals court decides whether to
make them public.

The city is trying to keep the potentially embarrassing documents


under wraps. They include a list of 662 Chicago Police officers --
one of every 20 cops on the 13,200-member force -- with more
than 10 civilian complaints lodged against them between 2001 and
2006.

A week ago, U.S. District Judge Joan Lefkow ordered the city to
release the list, but the city appealed. On Monday, just before the 5
p.m. deadline that Lefkow imposed for the documents to be
released, the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals granted the city a
stay that keeps them secret until the court can decide if they are
public.

"The city of Chicago spends unprecedented resources fighting to


keep from the public the data about how the Police Department
polices itself -- while at the same time, they publicly profess the
virtues of openness and transparency," said Jon Loevy, an attorney
seeking to bring the documents to light.

Some have more than 30 complaints


The list will show if a complaint against an officer was "sustained"
and if it resulted in discipline -- or if the department deemed it to
be "unsustained" or "unfounded" or determined the officer was
"exonerated."
The records will identify some officers who have received more than
30 complaints but who did not face any "meaningful" discipline,
Loevy said. The documents also will identify the police units with
the highest concentrations of cops with 10 or more complaints
against them.

"Most police officers do their jobs without attracting any


complaints," Loevy said. "It's this tiny portion that cause most of
the problems."

Critics of the department hoped the documents would surface


before Thursday, when the City Council is scheduled to consider a
proposed ordinance that would change the office that investigates
complaints against cops.

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Under the measure, the head of the Office of Professional Standards


would report to the mayor and not to the police superintendent;
summaries of the investigations would become public, and OPS
investigators would receive subpoena power. Loevy called those
changes "window dressing" and a "P.R. stunt."

The information on complaints against cops was gathered by


attorneys for Diane Bond, who sued the city claiming she was
abused by officers working in a Chicago Public Housing building on
the South Side in 2003. She received a $150,000 settlement from
the city, records show.

Loevy represents Jamie Kalven, a writer who entered the case as a


third party to make the documents public.

"We're at a kind of historic moment in the city in terms of real and


meaningful police reforms, and the information in the disputed
documents is directly relevant to the public debate that's going on
right now," Kalven said.

A spokeswoman for the city's Law Department did not return a call,
but in court papers the city argues that the documents should not
be released because they did not become part of the court
proceedings in Bond's lawsuit and would invade the officers'
privacy.

On July 9, Lefkow ruled that the documents were still presumed to


be public, writing "the public has a significant interest in monitoring
the conduct of its police officers and a right to know how allegations
of misconduct are being investigated and handled."

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ZoeJane Report: Complaints About Elite Officers 'Disproportionate'


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Report: Complaints About Elite Officers 'Disproportionate'
Chicago Tribune Reports On State's Attorney's Office Investigation
Of CPD

POSTED: 9:39 am CDT July 18, 2007


UPDATED: 10:55 am CDT July 18, 2007

CHICAGO -- Aldermen in Chicago have gotten copies of a list of


hundreds of police officers with 10 or more complaints against them
during the past five years.

But the names of the officers are blacked out.

The Chicago Tribune Wednesday reported that the list shows an


elite Chicago police unit has a disproportionately high number of
complaints.

The newspaper reported that the top four police officers on the list
were all members of the Special Operations Section. Those officers
each had 50 or more misconduct complaints against them in the
past five years.

That unit is the subject of an ongoing investigation by Cook County


prosecutors. Six officers have been indicted on charges ranging
from burglary to armed violence.

NBC5's Carol Marin presented a related story about misconduct


among the Special Operations Section last summer. At that time,
the investigation was under way and several officers were later
brought up on charges.

Chicago's police department has been under increased scrutiny in


recent months for high-profile allegations of police misconduct,
including the videotaped beatings of a female bartender and four
businessmen by off-duty officers. Police Superintendent Phil Cline
announced his retirement amid the controversy and Mayor Richard
M. Daley has been seeking his replacement.

The City Council is scheduled to vote Thursday on a proposal to


reform the Office of Professional Standards, which investigates
police misconduct. Critics say the office is too beholden to the police
department and does little to discipline officers accused of
misconduct.

U.S. District Judge Joan Lefkow ordered the city to make the list of
officer complaints public last week, but the city appealed. The 7th U.
S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday granted a stay to let the city
keep the list secret until judges decide what to do about the case.

The redacted version of the list limits aldermen from fully

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understanding the records, said Craig Futterman, a University of


Chicago law professor who handled a lawsuit that originally
produced the list.

Chicago Police Department spokeswoman Monique Bond noted that


the department registers all complaints.

"Complaints can range from parking complaints to excessive force,"


Bond said. "We also register internal complaints against members.
It would be unfair to assume that all complaints fall into the more
severe categories."

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ZoeJane 4 officers from elite Chicago police unit top list of misconduct allegations
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The Associated Press


Published: July 18, 2007

CHICAGO: Hundreds of Chicago police officers have had 10 or more


complaints filed against them, and at least four members of an elite
police unit have racked up more than 50 each in the past five
years, according to a published report.

The high numbers, reported by the Chicago Tribune, are the latest
black mark on a troubled department. Chicago police have been
under fire for several recent incidents, including two videotaped
beatings involving off-duty officers at bars and the indictments of
six officers in a Special Operations Section on charges ranging from
burglary to armed violence.

The records had been kept secret by court order after they were
turned over to plaintiffs in a federal civil rights lawsuit in which
several police officers were accused of brutality.

U.S. District Judge Joan Lefkow ruled last Monday that the public
had a right to see the documents, but the city appealed. The 7th U.
S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday granted a stay to let the city
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Police spokeswoman Monique Bond said the complaints against


officers can range from parking complaints to claims of excessive
force.

"It would be unfair to assume that all complaints fall into the more
severe categories," she said.

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Published Friday, July 20, 2007


LIBBY SANDER

CHICAGO, July 19 — After a string of recent scandals involving


police officers, the City Council voted on Thursday to overhaul the
office responsible for investigating police abuses, aiming to restore
public confidence in how the city investigates accusations of
misconduct in the nation’s second-largest police force.

But even as the city pledged more transparency, its lawyers were
fighting in federal court to keep private the names of hundreds of
officers who have had multiple citizen complaints filed against them
in recent years.

“As the data show, the Chicago Police Department has proven it is
utterly incapable of policing itself,” said Craig Futterman, a civil
rights lawyer involved in a case that produced the document with
the officers’ names. “Behind each scandal there are all these
warning signs that are ignored.”

It has been a tough year for the department and its 13,600 officers.
An off-duty officer was caught on videotape beating a female
bartender. In another incident, also captured on videotape, a group
of off-duty officers was seen beating four businessmen at a
downtown bar. In addition, several officers in an elite unit are
awaiting trial on charges that include home invasion, theft and
armed violence, as county prosecutors continue to investigate the
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The department’s top official, Superintendent Philip J. Cline, who


first joined the department as a cadet in 1968, recently announced
his intention to retire.

Under the ordinance adopted Thursday, the head of the office


charged with investigating accusations of police abuse will now
report directly to Mayor Richard M. Daley instead of to the police
superintendent. The office will have more authority to root out
rogue officers and will be required to make quarterly public reports.

Also on Thursday, Mr. Daley appointed Ilana Rosenzweig, a former


lawyer with the Los Angeles Sheriff Department’s independent
police oversight board, as the new administrator of the office.

“Some people believe we don’t need this kind of reform,” Mr. Daley
said after the Council approved the ordinance, 48 to 0. “Others
believe we haven’t gone far enough. We need to take this step and
give it time to work.”

But a flurry of activity in federal court in recent weeks has some


here questioning how far Mr. Daley is willing to go to bring about
change.

The city is challenging efforts by a local journalist to make public


the list of officers who have been the subject of multiple complaints.

The list names more than 600 officers who had more than 10
complaints filed against them during a five-year period. It was
unearthed during a lawsuit brought by a resident of a public
housing complex against five officers assigned to patrol her housing
unit. The case was settled this year for $150,000.

Jamie Kalven, the journalist, intervened in the case earlier this year
seeking to make public the reams of information the city had turned
over to the resident’s lawyers. A federal judge ruled that the
information should be made public. The city has appealed the
ruling, and the names will remain under seal until a federal appeals
court weighs in.

A copy of the list obtained Wednesday by The New York Times


shows that four officers had 50 or more citizen complaints filed
against them in the five-year period, beginning roughly in 2001.

Of those, one complaint resulted in a 15-day suspension and two


prompted reprimands. The officer with the greatest number of
complaints, 55, did not receive any disciplinary action. Twenty-nine
additional officers each had 30 to 40 complaints against them; of
those, two were given reprimands and two received one-day
suspensions.

Most officers on the list had 11 to 20 complaints.

The city’s counsel, Mara S. Georges, said making the names public
would be unfair to the officers and would threaten the integrity of

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the discovery process in the lawsuit.

“These officers were not parties to this litigation,” said Ms. Georges,
who on Tuesday distributed copies of the list to city aldermen with
the officers’ names blacked out. “They have no ability to defend
themselves.”

Mr. Futterman said the court battle made for a bitter irony: “While
the mayor has claimed this ordinance is necessary to create an
open, more accountable police department, he’s having his lawyers
fight tooth and nail to keep the very same information from the
press and public, the very same information needed to create a
more open and transparent police department.”

Mr. Futterman added, “If we treated civilian crime the same way we
investigate police abuse in Chicago, we’d never close a case.”

Like most other large police departments, the one in Chicago


struggles with misconduct, and its efforts at change are a step in
the right direction, said Samuel Walker, who studies police
accountability as a professor emeritus of criminal justice at the
University of Nebraska, Omaha.

“There’s no single fix,” Professor Walker said.

“You need good policies on the use of force,” Professor Walker said.
“You need a well-developed internal affairs process for investigating
misconduct; you need an early intervention system to spot officers,
and you need an independent auditor. It’s a whole package.”

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July 2, 2007 - Two of 3 Chicago Police officers accused of taking


part in a beating at a West Loop bar appeared in court this
morning.

Officers Paul Powers and Greg Barnes are accused of beating four
men at the Jefferson Tap on December 15. The victims' attorney
says the bar's security camera caught the attack on tape.
Powers and Barnes were arraigned this morning. Both pleaded not
guilty to aggravated battery charges.

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quote:

The victims' attorney says the bar's security


camera caught the attack on tape.
Powers and Barnes were arraigned this
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Would anyone be surprised if the security camera tape


mysteriously "disappeared" before these pigs' trial started?

quote:

The third officer charged, Sergeant Jeffery


Planey, did not appear in court this morning.

And what exactly happened, or will happen, to Sgt. Planey as a


result of this failure to appear? Did the reporter who wrote this
ask that question, or even bother to search for the answer? Yet
another example of the pathetic, empty, shallow, statist, pig-
hugging MSM dutifully reporting as little detail as possible on
state employee misconduct. (BTW, I'll bet Planey gets a slap on
the wrist for failure to appear, if even that).

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Would anyone be surprised if the security


camera tape mysteriously "disappeared"
before these pigs' trial started?

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Normally it wouldn't surprise me, but the video has been viewed
by millions on youtube.com and various other media outlets.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yTRSDAKa1W8

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UspNKonUwbo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=O-fTK0U5VAs

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Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:46 AM CDT

CHICAGO - Video taken by bar security cameras and obtained by a


television station appears to show three off-duty Chicago police
officers scuffling with four businessmen in an incident that has
spawned criminal charges and a civil lawsuit against the officers.

WFLD-TV aired portions of the security video on its Tuesday night


broadcast, showing men it identified as Sgt. Jeffrey Planey and
officers Paul Powers and Gregory Barnes fighting with the
businessmen at the Jefferson Tap and Grille in the city's West Loop
on Dec. 15.

The television station did not indicate how it obtained the video,
which police have declined to release.

The bar's 10 security cameras did not capture the alleged assault
for which the officers have been charged, WFLD reported. But the
video does show the officers fighting with the men near the bar's
pool table and one officer taking a man's cell phone outside the bar
afterward.

An officer also can be seen taking away Powers' service revolver


before the confrontation with the businessmen begins.

"I think the release of the tape was inappropriate and improper and
could potentially have the effect of diminishing my client's ability to
have a fair trial," said Powers' lawyer, Lori Lightfoot. "We will not
try the case in the media. It will be tried in a court of law."

Messages seeking comment left by The Associated Press at the


offices of the other officers' attorneys were not immediately
returned Wednesday morning.

In a federal lawsuit filed in May, the businessmen _ Adam


Mastrucci, Scott Lowrance and brothers Aaron and Barry Gilfand _
claim the allegedly unprovoked officers attacked them while they
were playing pool.

Planey, 33, has been charged with one count each of obstruction of

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justice, aggravated battery and official misconduct, according to the


Cook County State's Attorney's office. Powers, 25, and Barnes, 39,
each are charged with one count of aggravated battery.

The aggravated battery alleged by prosecutors took place in the


bar's entryway away from the security cameras, WFLD reported.

The misconduct charge against Planey stems from the allegation


that he waved off on-duty officers responding to the incident. He
can be seen on the security video interacting with officers in squad
cars, but the video doesn't have sound, and it isn't clear what was
said.

His attorney, Tom Needham, has said Planey was telling the officers
to slow down because "there was no need for a bunch of police
officers to go charging in there with their weapons drawn."

All three officers have pleaded not guilty to the charges.

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Thursday, 12 July 2007 6:17AM

CHICAGO (CBS 2) - A surveillance video shows off-duty Chicago


police officers caught on tape in a bar brawl. The video is evidence
in a civil lawsuit, as well as a criminal case against the officers.

CBS 2 obtained a copy of the video Wednesday, and while it is


dramatic, it may be significant as much for what it doesn't show as
what it does.

As CBS 2’s Mike Parker reports, days before Christmas last year,
several off-duty Chicago cops are shown on tape in the Jefferson
Tap and Grille. One of them, Officer Paul Powers, was upset over a
death in the family and was being consoled by the others. Later as
he got up to leave - for some reason - one of his friends removes
Powers' weapon from his waistband.

Moments later there are words between the officers and some

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patrons playing pool. One cop sweeps all the balls off the table, and
the brawl begins. There was pushing and shoving and Officer
Gregory Barnes shoved one of the patrons, who landed on the floor.

"You get a flavor from the tape that these officers went beyond the
limit,” said CBS 2 Legal Analyst Irv Miller. “They were doing things
they shouldn't have done."

The outdoor security camera then revealed what happened when


one of the alleged victims stood on the sidewalk and tried to call 9-
1-1 on his cell phone. Sergeant Jeffrey Planey seemed to notice,
moved toward the man and grabed him by the neck and threw him
into the wall.

"Clearly this officer knew what was coming,” Miller said. “He knew
this guy was calling for help. He knew his livelihood was in jeopardy
and wasn't going to let it happen.”

The same camera was rolling as Planey later appeared to wave off
arriving police units. The officers follow the order and leave. That
action was what led to charges of official misconduct against Planey.

There is no video of the beatings the businessmen say they got in


the vestibule, the entryway of the bar.

The three officers are not only facing criminal charges, they're also
the targets of a civil lawsuit filed by the alleged victims.

The four businessmen say the attacks were unprovoked and that
they suffered broken bones, bruises and back injuries.

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Punched By An Officer
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Posts: 2330 An Atkinson police officer is accused of punching a student.

The student's mother is frustrated with the school, the police officer
and Henry County's state's attorney.

Because this case involves a minor, the school, the police and the
state's attorney can't share a lot of information. But the teenager
and her mother have come forward.

Ariel Goepper describes what happened to her at school two months


ago, "I spit on my leg. She's like, 'you look real elegant.' I'm like,

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'you want to look elegant.' She says, 'do it. I dare ya right here.'
That's when she came up, whipped my glasses across the room,
held my head back like that, just punched me right in the eye. I
started crying. I admit, it hurt so bad."

Goepper wasn't being hit by a classmate. It was the school's police


officer.

Terry Patton is Henry County's State's Attorney. He says, "It's not


acceptable to strike somebody while they are in handcuffs
regardless of what they've done to provoke that it's flat out not
acceptable."

Ariel is 16 years old. Her mother, Marje Hood, says she is frustrated
that the school allowed this to happen and that the state's attorney
has not arrested Officer Sandra Trussen.

Hood says, "This woman committed a felony against my daughter


and has only been charged with a misdemeanor."

Hood says Ariel not only suffered a black eye, she also had bruises
on her wrists and back.

Excel is an Atkinson school for students with behavioral problems,


but Hood says she didn't know there was always an officer on duty.

The school's director says the officer's presence is a deterrent to


negative behavior.

Hood says she wants justice. "This police officer needs to be held
accountable for her actions her lies and what she did to my
daughter."

The state's attorney says he understands Hood's frustrations. He


can't discuss the evidence in this case but says the officer in
question has a good record minus this incident.

"This is a good officer who made one mistake and lost her temper.
She's got to pay for that mistake, but I certainly hope she doesn't
have to pay for it for the rest of her life."

Officer Trussen's attorney says she doesn't blame the victim and
knows her actions were inappropriate. The officer says during the
altercation, Ariel said she would burn her house down. Trussen says
she had a barn fire and lost many of her possessions and that is
what caused her to react so emotionally.

Ariel is now in a new school and says she wants to put everything
behind her. "I have two months left on probation. I've been on
probation for four years. I've been good. I want to just be done
with it, done with court, done with costing my mom all this money."

Ariel says she is facing a separate charge of assault against a


teacher and does not want to go to juvenile detention. Her mother
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school lied.

Again, the school can not speak about either charge against Ariel or
the officer because it involves a minor.

The state's attorney says Officer Trussen faces a maximum of one


year in prison and a fine of $2,500. A pre-trial hearing is set for
March 22nd.

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"It's not acceptable to strike somebody while
they are in handcuffs regardless of what
they've done to provoke that it's flat out not
acceptable."
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Originally posted by Rylan 2.0


the state's attorney has not arrested Officer
Sandra Trussen

Imagine that...

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indyhome "This is a good officer who made one mistake and lost her
Member temper. She's got to pay for that mistake, but I certainly
hope she doesn't have to pay for it for the rest of her life."
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Navigatr1 I concur with you indyhome. They think it is OK to ruin a citizens


Extended Sabatical life for a mistake that person did. However, they like to come up
with excuses when a cop does it. Someone who supposedly knows
the law better than the citizens do, and the consequences of
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assaulting a handcuffed person before she broke the law. Prosecute
her and make her take anger management classes if she has an
anger problem.

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ZoeJane Cop pleads guilty to striking cuffed girl


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By Stephen Elliott

A former Atkinson police officer pleaded guilty Tuesday to striking a


teenage girl who was seated and handcuffed.

Sandra Trussen, 42, Galva, pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor


count of battery on Tuesday in Henry County Circuit Court and
agreed to a negotiated plea. Ms. Trussen was sentenced to one
year of conditional discharge, fined $1,000, and ordered to pay
victim restitution for any medical bills.

Ms. Trussen also has to undergo anger management counseling and


have no contact with the victim, according to Henry County State's
Attorney Terry Patton.

The girl, Ariel Goepper, was at the Excel school in Atkinson, a


school for students with behavioral problems. Ms. Trussen is no
longer with the police department, according to Mr. Patton.

Ms. Trussen was on duty at the school when the incident happened
on Jan. 11.

Mr. Patton said the girl, who was 16 at the time, had left her room
when she wasn't supposed to and refused to return. The principal
asked for Ms. Trussen's help, Mr. Patton said.

On the way back to the classroom, Ms. Goepper started trying to


yank out of the officer's grasp, according to Mr. Patton. He said
they took the girl down and put her in handcuffs.

'She yelled and threatened (the officer),' Mr. Patton said.

He said the girl spat on Ms. Trussen and Ms. Trussen took the girl's
glasses off, 'tossed them on the desk and punched her in the face
while the girl was handcuffed and sitting on the floor.

'I didn't prosecute the case because I had sympathy for the girl. I
prosecuted the case, because you can't allow officers to punch
people who are in handcuffs.

'There are other ways to deal with someone who is spitting.'

Ms. Trussen's attorney, Stephanie Ames, could not be reached for


comment. Atkinson Police Chief Marty Burroughs also could not be
reached for comment.

Ms. Goepper's mother, Marje Hood, Kewanee, said she was not

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aware of the Tuesday's hearing. Ms. Hood said she is having


problems paying the medical bills for her daughter.

'All the bills have been placed for collection on my credit report,'
Ms. Hood said. 'I do not have medical insurance.

'I'm very angry. She (Ms. Trussen) got off very lightly. The state's
attorney's office does not care. Lisa Madigan's office does not care.'

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Interstate 55 To Have A Trooper Every 10 Miles Friday
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Posts: 2330 If ever there is a day to mind the rules of the road, Friday is it.

Illinois State Police troopers will be stationed every 10 miles along


Interstate 55, from St. Louis to Chicago, in an effort to enforce
traffic laws and raise safety awareness. The detail will begin at noon
Friday and end at midnight.

District 9 Capt. James Wolf said Tuesday that the goal is to seek
voluntary compliance in such matters as seat belt laws, speed limits
and "Scott's Law," which requires drivers to slow down when police,
fire and ambulance vehicles are providing assistance on the roads.

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The "Stay Alive on I-55" saturation detail - which will span 300
miles and require at least 30 troopers - coincides with the the start
of the Memorial Day weekend. During that weekend in 2006, 47
crashes on Interstate 55 resulted in one death and eight injuries.

Seven accidents happened in District 9, though none resulted in


injuries. District 9 - Sangamon, Christian, Morgan, Cass, Menard,
Logan and Mason counties - will devote seven troopers to the detail.

"Stay Alive on I-55" will focus on what police call the "fatal five":
speeding, failing to use seat belts, driving under the influence,
improper lane usage and following too closely.

Wolf said the idea came from the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, which
ran a similar patrol along Interstate 40.

"It's kind of a unique way of targeting drivers who don't want to


obey the law and to have a visible presence out there on the
interstate," he said.

"Historically, Memorial Day is a heavy, heavy traffic holiday.


Whether we have to write a ticket or we get voluntary compliance,
our goal is to reduce fatalities and keep people safe."

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Location: matters as seat belt laws, speed limits and
Posts: 2330 "Scott's Law," which requires drivers to slow
down when police, fire and ambulance vehicles
are providing assistance on the roads.

Voluntary! He must double as a comedian. Talking about a


campaign like this and the word "voluntary" in the same sentence is
more egregious than what 90% of the civilians will do this weekend
that will result in a citation.

quote:

"It's kind of a unique way of targeting drivers


who don't want to obey the law and to have a
visible presence out there on the interstate," he
said.

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Writing a seemingly endless number of unwarranted traffic tickets


to civilians in an effort to generate revenue under the guise of
safety? What a novel idea!

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05-23-2007 05:57 PM

liberranter Arizona's porky posse is going even further. Since this state
Super Moderator doesn't have a "primary" seatbelt law (that is, they can't cite
you just for not wearing a seatbelt), they're going to be pulling
people over for "random safety checks" at select locations to
provide them with an excuse for citing people for not "buckling
up."

You may not hear from me for a while after this weekend, and
when you do I'm sure I'll have some interesting stories to
relate, because in the event that I encounter one of these
"checkpoints", I intend to have both Pima County and Tucson
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piggies kissing my filthy white arse before they "check" my
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Registered: Dec 2006 Arizona's porky posse is going even further. Since
Location: this state doesn't have a "primary" seatbelt law
Posts: 2330 (that is, they can't cite you just for not wearing a
seatbelt), they're going to be pulling people over
for "random safety checks" at select locations to
provide them with an excuse for citing people for
not "buckling up."

Wow. How long before that pours over into our homes? Do you
have any more information on it?

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mr.b I love it when you talk dirty liberanter!!!LOL Here in California they
Senior Member started their click or tick campaign again and the local porkos are
hot citing for this meanwhile the local burglar is having a feel day!!!!

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05-23-2007 08:26 PM

Maxima Here is a video from the a St. Louis news station about this I55 deal.
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liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by Rylan 2.0

Wow. How long before that pours over into


our homes? Do you have any more
information on it?

What they usually do is just ask for your license, registration,


Registered: Jun 2005
and proof of insurance, just as a pretext for seeing whether or
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865 not you're wearing a safety belt. Of course it's still illegal, as
they have no probable cause to simply pull you over for no
reason, but since the State and U.S. Supreme Courts have
basically rubberstamped anything the porkos do as "legal", it's a
moot point.

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Rylan 2.0 Awful. Anyone who does that for a paycheck is a scumbag.
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Did Cop Use Excessive Force On Playground?
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Posts: 2330 Did an off-duty Chicago Police officer abuse his power when he
settled a playground dispute by allegedly attacking an 11-year-old?

That's what the boy's mother, Donna Moore, believes happened last
Saturday when the angry father stormed the Kellogg School
playground.

Moore and several people who witnessed the incident have filed a
complaint with the Office of Professional Standards alleging that
Robert Smith used excessive force against the 11-year-old.

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Monique Bond, director of police News Affairs, confirmed that the


incident is under investigation.

"I was hysterical," said Moore, who ran to the playground at 92nd
and Leavitt in Beverly when her 13-year-old daughter called from a
cell phone.

"A deranged-looking man had my son in a chokehold and held my


son in front of him like a shield," Moore said. "I was screaming for
him to let my son go. He finally takes one hand away and holds out
a police badge."

Apparently, the incident -- which ended with the 11-year-old and


his 13-year-old sister handcuffed and charged with battery --
started with a shove.

Don't touch someone else's child


Who shoved whom first is in dispute.

Still, most parents have been there. Their son or daughter runs
home and says someone jumped them, and the parent goes looking
for the alleged assailant. But most parents have learned the hard
way that it is unwise to get directly involved in childhood squabbles.

Even in bullying situations, the best course of action is to inform the


bully's parent and ask them to intervene. If that doesn't work, then
call in a higher authority like a school official or youth officer. It is
never OK for adults to physically touch someone else's child.

The most violent confrontations between neighbors often start with


conflicts between children. Things get a lot more complicated when
the parent is a cop.

"The police officer should not have intervened," a police source told
me. "You don't do that."

By the time Smith identified himself as a Chicago Police officer, two


uniformed police officers from the 22nd District had arrived on the
scene.

"This man was telling the police officers to arrest my son while they
were trying to find out what happened. When they couldn't make a
decision, a sergeant was called," Moore said.

"The officers finally handcuffed my son and put him in a patrol car,"
Moore said. "Smith wouldn't even talk to them. He was just barking
orders. Then the sergeant comes up and talks to Smith and decides
to arrest my children."

The 11-year-old was charged with battery. His 13-year-old sister


was charged with battery to a police officer after Smith claimed she
hit him when he was trying to restrain her brother.

"They told me they were taking my kids to 111th and Longwood,


but they wouldn't tell me at that time what they were charged

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with," Moore said.

Cop's son allegedly pushed


The mother was at the police station from 6 p.m. Saturday to about
2 a.m. Sunday, reportedly because the report supporting the
charges against the two children was rejected several times.

"As far as I was concerned Smith attacked my children, but I wasn't


allowed to make any complaint against him. I finally ended up
talking to a captain who told me that Smith claimed my son and his
son had some kind of altercation on the playground. His son said
my son pushed him.

"I couldn't believe that this police officer came out on the
playground and attacked my son based on something like that,"
Moore said.

Because of the charges, Moore said she wasn't allowed to file a


complaint against Smith. However, witnesses on the scene
apparently filed complaints accusing the officer of using excessive
force. The Office of Professional Standards is investigating those
complaints.

"Right now, my son is afraid to go outside of the house," Moore


said. "He's scared that the police officer is out there. He's an 11-
year-old, 100-pound boy and he's so scared he's sleeping in bed
with me."

I can understand why some parents in Beverly may be concerned


about their children's safety, given the brutal assault last summer
by three teens on young heart patient Ryan Rusch.

But this wasn't that kind of situation.

If Smith grabbed an 11-year-old boy, roughed him up, and had him
arrested because of a playground scuffle -- he crossed the line that
separates concerned parents from dangerous ones.

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GC Marciano I'll bet that 11 year old child scared the living crap outta that
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That's the typical Chicago cop for ya... Cowards that beat on
women and children.

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Student Arrested For Alarming School Essay


Officials: Essay Referenced A School Shooting

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/l..._116064451.html

(CBS) CARY, Ill. An 18-year-old high school student from the


Registered: Jul 2003 northwest suburbs has been arrested and is facing criminal
Location: Chicago, Illinois charges for what officals called an alarming essay that made
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reference to a school shooting.

Allen W. Lee, a student at Cary-Grove High School in Cary, was


charged with disorderly conduct stemming from an essay that
was part of a "free writing" assignment in a creative writing

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class.

The teen was charged because his teacher became alarmed by


the "violence" he described, Cary Police Chief Ron Delelio said.
The essay contained no specific threats but was "disturbing and
inappropriate," he said.

The paper allegedly made a vague reference to a fictional school


shooting in McHenry County but didn’t specify a school or
district, a law enforcement source said.

Lee admitted mentioning school shooting in the essay, but


downplayed it.

"At the very last sentence, I said that this teacher's method of
teaching could lead to a school shooting," Lee said Wednesday.
He said he'd intended the entire essay as a joke.

Lee's father, Albert Lee, questioned the severity of the


punishment.

"We think they have been too harsh," Albert Lee said
Wednesday. "Every story has two sides."

The charges come less than two weeks after Virginia Tech
senior Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people and then himself on the
Blacksburg, Va., campus. Cho had written violence-drenched
plays in his creative writing class.

"I understand what happened recently at Virginia Tech," said


Albert Lee. "I understand the situation."

But he also defended his son as a straight-A student who was


following instructions for the assignment.

But police said it was necessary to be extra vigilant regarding


the possibility of school violence.

"We filed what we thought was the appropriate charge," Delelio


said. "We need to be very vigilant today when we’re dealing
with school settings."

Lee’s creative writing instructor — a first-year teacher —


became so concerned when reading the essay Monday night
that she called the Cary-Grove English Department chair, who
then called the principal at home, said Community High School
District 155 Supt. Jill Hawk.

Police were alerted, and Lee was arrested Tuesday morning. By


Wednesday, Lee was in an "off-campus placement" with a tutor
"while we assess just how extensively we need to be
concerned," Hawk said.

Allen Lee faces disciplinary action, said Jeff Puma, a District 155
spokesman.

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Police have declined to release a copy of the essay.

"It raised some flags," Puma said. "I think, in this case, the
teacher chose to err on the side of caution and, I think, rightly
so."

Ed Yohnka, spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union of


Illinois, said that without knowing all the details of the essay,
"You have to wonder whether [the charges were] an
overreaction, given the events at Virginia Tech."

"He turned it in to a teacher. He didn't post it online," Yohnka


added. "It's not a communication between him and the broader
world. This [charge] is just very puzzling."

A Cary-Grove student who knows Lee described him as quiet


and smart. “He was quiet, he wasn't scary,” the student said.

On Wednesday, students at the school showed support for Lee


with a petition drive to let him back into school.

Disorderly conduct can be filed if someone’s actions alarm or


disturb another enough to "provoke a breach of the peace,"
McHenry County State’s Attorney Louis Bianchi said. "So far,
we’re supportive" of the charge, he said.

Lee, who was arrested Tuesday, posted $75 bond.

He is scheduled to appear in court June 18.

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quote:

Originally posted by GC505


Disorderly conduct can be filed if someone’s actions
alarm or disturb another enough to "provoke a breach
of the peace,"

Another no specific law they can tag on anyone. Thankfully it's not
Registered: Mar 2007
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written like that here, but that could be used on us copwatchers.
Posts: 360 Since we are almost 100% sure that the cop is going to come start
**** (breach of the peace) and they would say we provoked it.

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GC Marciano The school essay did not bother me as it did not include any
Copwatcher Extraordinaire threat whatsoever. It was simply a fictional story.

However, the arrest of Mr. Lee for his harmless, fictional essay
both alarms and disturbs me enough to provoke a breach of the
peace.

This makes the civil-rights violating cops that initiated the


arrest guilty of Disorderly Conduct.

Registered: Jul 2003 Why haven't they been arrested?


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All I can think of about this arrest is: OMG, what has this nation
become?
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Posts: 861 where he finds the Statue of Liberty.)

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GC Marciano Below is the essay in question.


Copwatcher Extraordinaire
This production of the writing is done in the most accurate
manner I can depict of the original writing.

The first phrase in questions is in fact a Green Day song. The


second reference to drugs is in relation to the schools history of
drug problems.

The reference to the gun P90 is from a video game, combined


Registered: Jul 2003 with a reference to necrophilia as a comment regarding a
Location: Chicago, Illinois seriously messed up situation. A situation such as the rape of
Posts: 9967 villagers during a raid by U.S. troops in Vietnam.

The reference to a person being smart and people being dumb


is based on a quote from "Men in Black."

Grammar and spelling mistakes are included at the best


accuracy possible.

quote:

Blood sex and Booze. Drugs Drugs Drugs are fun.


Stab, Stab, Stab, S…t…a…b…, poke. "So I had this
dream last night where I went into a building,
pulled out two P90s and started shooting
everyone…, then had sex with the dead bodies.
Well, not really, but it would be funny if I did."
Umm, yeah, what to wright about…… I'm leaving to
join the Marines and I really don't give a shit about
my academics, so why does the only class that's
complete [expletive], happen to be the only
required class…enough said. The model citizen
would stay around to vote in new board member to
change the 4 years of English policy, but no one
really stays around to vote for that kind of local
crap, so whoever gets there name on the Ballet
with a pretty face gets to do what the [expletive]
ever they want with local ordinance. A person is
smart, but people are dumb selfish animals. We
can't make rules for ourselves so we vote others to
do it for us, but we can't even do that right, I meen
seriously, Bush for President? And our other option
was John Kerry who claimed to parktake in Vietnam
Special Forces missions that haven't been
declassified…. Bullshit. So Power Flower Super
Mario. Pudge, hook, rot, dismember "Fresh Meat."
Most new/young teachers are laid back, and
cooperative with students as feedback and input
into the curriculum and atmosphere. My current
English teacher is a control freak intent on setting a
gap between herself and her students like a 63 year
old white male fortune 500 company CEO, and a

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illegal immigrant. If CG was a private catholic


school, I could understand, but wtf is her problem.
And baking brownies and rice crispies does not
make up for it, way to try and justify yourself as a
good teacher while underhandidly looking for
complements on your cooking. No quarrel on you
qualifications as a writer, but as a teacher, don't be
surprised on inspiring the first cg shooting.

-------------------------

Allen W. Lee, 18, of Cary IL has been arrested, jailed and


charged with two counts of disorderly conduct over an essay he
wrote for a creative writing class at Cary-Grove High School.

Attachment: allenlee.jpg
This has been downloaded 20 time(s).

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JmE He needs a website to see others support free speech... especially


Senior Member in an English class where 'free style writing' is often mandatory.
Indeed, we instruct to write whatever comes to mind if you can not
think of anything.

Registered: Aug 2005 I can't search right now so if someone finds a website supporting or
Location: Directly behind you giving further information on this situation, please post it.
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JmE
Senior Member I suspect that Allen W. Lee is brighter than his teacher.

Unfortunately, I have seen that far to often with those I have


tutored at the junior high, high school, and college level. Some of
Registered: Aug 2005 the 'instructors' were actually 'published' authors!
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same BS.> -- Typical LE Copscum
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distinction of inalienable rights based upon genotype of any H. s. sapiens. --
JmE, 'Heinz 57'

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provide until He provides."
There is nothing new under the Sun.

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Rylan 2.0 Is Lee's race of any relevance to this case? Thoughts?


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JmE quote:
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Originally posted by Rylan 2.0
Is Lee's race of any relevance to this case?
Thoughts?
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Directly behind you
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I was thinking the same thing but being a Rev. I did not want to be
the first to publicly consider the 'race card'.

I.e. I did not want to emulate the 'roving reverends'.

I can not stomach what I see as their grandstanding and gaining


from the misfortune of others, IMHO.

***Disclaimer: My opinions only. ***

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I respectfully dissent without further mooting cum hoc ergo propter hoc
distinction of inalienable rights based upon genotype of any H. s. sapiens. --
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"G_d, I know, will provide," sighed one disconsolate Jew. "I only wish He would
provide until He provides."
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05-01-2007 03:14 AM

JmE
Senior Member
After posting, I literally just received this email from one of my old
medical school buddies.

Registered: Aug 2005 quote:


Location: Directly behind you
Posts: 861
The Reverends Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, while
visiting a primary school class, found themselves in the
middle of a discussion related to words and their
meanings.

The teacher asked both men if they would like to lead


the discussion of the word "tragedy". So the illustrious
Rev Jackson asked the class for an example of a
"tragedy".

One little boy stood up and offered: "If my best friend,


who lives on a farm, is playing in the field and a
runaway tractor comes along and knocks him dead,
that would be a tragedy."

No," says the Great Jesse Jackson, "that would be an


accident."

A little girl raised her hand: "If a school bus carrying 50


children drove over a cliff, killing everyone inside, that
would be a tragedy."

I'm afraid not," explained the exalted Reverend Al.


"That's what we would call a great loss."

The room goes silent. No other children volunteer.

Reverend Al searched the room. "Isn't there someone


here who can give me an example of a tragedy?"

Finally at the back of the room little Johnny raised his


hand. In a stern voice he said: "If a plane carrying the
Reverends Jackson and Sharpton were struck by a
missile and blown to smithereens would that be a
tragedy?"

Fantastic!" exclaimed Jackson and Sharpton, "That's


right. And can you tell me why that would be a
tragedy?"

"Well," said little Johnny, "because it sure as hell


wouldn't be a great loss, and it probably wouldn't be an
accident either."

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(Sorry about going off topic GC505... I actually did receive this joke
right after my other post.)

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"Stonewall" Jackson
Coimhead fearg fhear na foighde ~ (Beware the anger of a
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<Insert stupid/oppressive swine comment here. It doesn't matter as it all is the
same BS.> -- Typical LE Copscum
To the point, I hate LE. Clear enough? -- JmE

I respectfully dissent without further mooting cum hoc ergo propter hoc
distinction of inalienable rights based upon genotype of any H. s. sapiens. --
JmE, 'Heinz 57'

Inspiration & Hope:


"G_d, I know, will provide," sighed one disconsolate Jew. "I only wish He would
provide until He provides."
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GC Marciano Officer Scott Crawford, Marengo Illinois:


Copwatcher Extraordinaire

Cop Videotaped In Beating Faces More


Allegations
Five Teens Plan Lawsuit Against Officer, Police Department

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/l..._193223054.html

Dave Savini
Registered: Jul 2003 Reporting
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 9967 (CBS) MARENGO -- Some teens are claiming a suburban cop is
abusing the badge -- and they point to a videotape to prove he
doesn't protect and serve, he only pounds and punches.

A police officer is caught on camera repeatedly hitting a man. It's


a CBS 2 exclusive and the tape is surfacing tonight after more

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alleged victims have come forward. CBS 2 investigative reporter


Dave Savini reveals accusations of an out of control cop.

An officer is caught on tape striking a handcuffed man in the back


of his police car. A neighbor records the blows, which eventually
stop when the Waukegan cop, Officer Scott Crawford, realizes
he's been spotted.

The alleged excessive force victim sued and Officer Crawford


resigned during an internal police investigation into his conduct.
But the videotape of the 2001 Waukegan case is finally surfacing
now. Now that Crawford is a cop again in Marengo, Illinois facing
similar allegations.

"I couldn't breathe. I thought I was suffocating," Nicole Sherber


said.

Sherber and brothers Brian and Kevin Gaughn are three of five
Marengo teens who plan to file a lawsuit against the Marengo
Police Department and Officer Crawford.

Kevin Gaughan said, "I was shocked how the cop was acting. I
was scared. Yeah, it was definitely out of control.”

Brian said, “I had cerebral concussion right here, I had whiplash I


had cuts on both my wrists from the handcuffs"

The brothers say they were beaten after smarting off to Officer
Crawford last year at a state fair when he asked for their ID's.

“He gave us our ID's back. He says, ‘you guys have two seconds
to walk away and get out of here,’ I said, ‘okay, walking away
one, two’ and something snapped and he just runs over to me
swearing, 'you mother... ,'" Kevin said.

The brothers were charged with aggravated battery to a police


officer and so was Nicole Sherber, but in a different case.

She says she still has the scars allegedly inflicted by Crawford
and a police dog. All, she says, because she was suspected of
drinking alcohol at a high school football game and resisting
arrest. “He tackled me to the ground, he sat on me, he lifted me
up by my handcuffs and ripped me out of the car by my ankles,"
she said.

Paul Ciolino is a private investigator hired by the teenagers'


families a year ago. He recently uncovered the videotape. “It's a
reign of terror. He's ruined these kids’ lives. A lot of them have
been charged with felonies,” he said.

Crawford is now facing internal charges -- not for the alleged


beatings, but for lying on his Marengo job application about his
past.

“I can guarantee that there's gonna be a number of lawsuits filed

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against Crawford and the City of Marengo," Ciolino said.

Crawford has been suspended from his Marengo police job. He's
also charged with violating policy during a high-speed chase.
Crawford's attorney would only say they plan on taking his side of
the cases to the police board.

The Marengo police chief says he was not in charge when


Crawford was hired and he would not comment on how
thoroughly his background was checked.

The victim on tape received a $30,000 settlement. His name is


Jose Gonzalez and his attorney says he has moved back to
Mexico.

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GC Marciano Marengo deputy chief files three-count complaint


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Marengo Deputy Chief of Police Joseph Hallman filed a three-


count complaint against patrol officer Scott Crawford with the
Marengo Board of Fire and Police Commissioners June 15.

The counts deal with several issues, ranging from Crawford


allegedly violating department policy while being involved in a
Registered: Jul 2003 high-speed chase, to Crawford creating a hostile working
Location: Chicago, Illinois environment for a fellow officer, and failing to disclose pertinent
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information on his employment application.

The complaint alleges violations of Marengo Police Department


policy and seeks termination or suspension of Crawford. He
immediately was suspended without pay pending a hearing by
the board.

The Marengo Board of Fire and Police Commissioners has set the

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complaint hearing for Thursday, June 30.

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Location: Chicago, Illinois from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind of
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chitownbrian Even though Scott Crawford lost his cop job in Waukegan for
Senior Member brutality, and is in the process of being fired from Marengo Police
Department, he is still working as a part-time cop in Round Lake
Registered: Nov 2004 Heights, Il Police Department.
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 103 It's great to see that several different municipalities get to enjoy
Crawford's excellent style of policing.

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chitownbrian Marengo force should step up screenings


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Registered: Nov 2004 Date July 15, 2005
Location: Chicago area Section(s) Columnists
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The Marengo Police and Fire Commission wouldn't have to discipline


Officer Scott Crawford had it properly screened him two years ago.

Rogue cops usually don't make it through the hiring process.

Crawford's job will be at stake when the commission meets in August.


Marengo police brass say Crawford withheld information on his job
application in 2003, caused a disturbance with staff, and went helter-
skelter on a high-speed chase.

But that could be the least of the city's problems. Crawford shouldn't
wear a badge nor be allowed to carry a loaded gun.

A Marengo resident, not the commission, hired a gumshoe to dig into


Crawford's troubled work history.

Brian Gaughan Sr., father of two Marengo brothers arrested by


Crawford during last year's Settlers' Days festival, found private
investigator Paul Ciolino's name on a Google search.

Ciolino interviewed several people whose statements conflict with a


state police investigation into the Settlers' Days arrests. He also
uncovered an incriminating videotape showing then-Waukegan Officer
Crawford striking a Mexican immigrant in the rear of a squad car.

Crawford left the Waukegan force but not before city officials agreed to
stay silent on a $30,000 judgment involving Crawford. Officials said he
resigned in good standing, even though the city settled a civil-rights
lawsuit filed by the immigrant man whom Crawford knocked around.

Letting a poor performer walk away with an unblemished record is not


unique to Waukegan. An officer brought up on internal charges might
be given the option of resigning to avoid bad publicity and a legal

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hassle.

Some departments would rather let a questionable cop go quietly than


risk having to pay huge lawyer's fees or possibly be told to retain the
officer.

I'm familiar with two cases involving officers whose poor behavior
called into question their ability to serve and protect.

A black man accused an officer in a large DuPage County department


of brutality. The police chief, now a politician, told me privately that he
despised the cop, while in public he came to his defense. As far as I
know, the officer retired with an unblemished record.

In another instance, a wife-beater cop was fired after his spouse


reported the abuse to police. But her refusal to testify at trial resulted
in no criminal action against her husband. To their credit, members of
the Police Commission took the officer's badge.

Crawford was the target of a 2001 federal civil-rights complaint that


cost Waukegan a bunch. Marengo officials should worry because more
than one Marengo resident has threatened to sue.

The state police decided to reopen the probe of the Gaughan brothers'
arrests after learning about new statements from witnesses.

Brothers Kevin and Brian Gaughan have their own legal problems.
Both have been charged with disorderly conduct, and Brian is accused
of felony battery.

Crawford should be relieved of his duties before he brings more


embarrassment to an otherwise fine police department.

Meanwhile, the Police and Fire Commission owes it to the community


to prevent another rogue cop from slipping through the cracks.

- Steve Brosinski is a Northwest Herald community editor. Reach him


at (847) 854-2876, or at sbrosinski@nwherald.com.

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chitownbrian Two brothers’ future, one officer’s fate


Senior Member A scuffle between two local men and a police officer with a history of
abuse complaints leaves all three fighting for their futures .
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Chicago area By Garrett Ordower
Posts: 103 Daily Herald Staff Writer
Posted Wednesday, July 13, 2005

ADVERTISEMENT

One. Two.

One cop. Two brothers. Two seconds. Two stories.

One. Two.

It happened that quickly.

Police officer Scott Crawford watched as Brian Gaughan, 21, argued


with a 25-year-old man during Marengo’s annual Settlers’ Days
festival last October.

Patrick Kunzer/Daily Herald


Brian Gaughan, left, 21, of Marengo and his brother Kevin, 18, of
****** were arrested by officer Scott Crawford on carnival grounds
near the Marengo Police Department in October 2004.
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He approached the men and told them they had two seconds to
break it up.

Gaughan started walking away, but as he left he mouthed off “One,


Two” to the officer. In seconds, he and his brother, Kevin, 18, were
in jail, looking at charges that could put each away for years, and put
their futures in peril.

The Gaughans stand accused of aggravated battery and resisting


arrest. They claimed Crawford used excessive force but now also face
charges of filing a false police report after the Illinois State Police
exonerated the officer.

Numerous attempts to reach Crawford have been unsuccessful,


including a letter hand-delivered to his residence that explained the
allegations being made against him and asked for his comment for
this story.

Fraternal Order of Police labor counsel Erika Raskopf said Crawford


has “a good work ethic, he’s been commended, and I think he’s a
solid officer.”

In his two years on Marengo’s force, Crawford has been the subject
of six investigations, two for excessive force.

While he was cleared in half of them, including both excessive force


claims, Crawford currently is suspended pending the outcome of
three of the investigations. Marengo’s police commission soon will
decide whether Crawford will be fired, the punishment his chief is
seeking.

Raskopf is representing Crawford on those charges. “We’re just going


to try the case before the board and be confident that he’ll be able to
keep his job,” she said.

The Gaughan brothers’ parents also are confident in their sons’


innocence. Having both worked as police officers, they refuse to
believe their sons would assault one of their own. They don’t believe
they were that disrespectful, or, at least, that stupid. That led them
to hire a private investigator, who discovered several previous
charges of alleged misconduct against the 26-year-old officer,
including a videotaped beating of a suspect that led to his resignation
from the Waukegan Police Department.

The Gaughan brothers likely could have pleaded guilty to lesser


charges and been done with the case without endangering their
futures.

Kevin Gaughan, a Northern Illinois University student, aspires to be a


banker or lawyer. Brian Gaughan wants to follow in his father’s
footsteps, becoming a firefighter or possibly a police officer. With
felony convictions, he can’t be either.

So, their father, former Arlington Heights police officer and current

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Glenview firefighter Brian Gaughan Sr., opted to spend thousands of


dollars and hundreds of hours clearing their names.

“We raised our children to believe what’s right is right and that’s it,”
Gaughan Sr. said. “There’s no compromise. You don’t admit you did
something you didn’t do so you don’t get your hand slapped as hard.
That’s not the way the system is supposed to work. If we have to sell
the house to finance this, that’s what we’ll do.”

Fighting back

Gaughan Sr. initially took a different tack in trying to clear his sons’
names. Within days of the arrest, the Gaughan family asked Marengo
Police Chief Les Kottke to contact the Illinois State Police and begin
an investigation into whether Crawford used excessive force.

About a month later, Kottke wrote a memo to Crawford indicating the


probe was complete and he could return to duty from paid
administrative leave. The state police had cleared Crawford of any
wrongdoing, but it began pressing Kevin and Brian Gaughan about
why the argument started and their previous statements to police.

Gaughan Sr. became wary. He hired private investigator Paul Ciolino


to look into the incident himself. Both brothers also passed privately
administered lie detector tests backing up their version of events,
according to a transcript of the examination.

Ciolino found witnesses backing up the brothers as well as other


claims of misconduct by Crawford.

The Gaughans and three others expect to file a federal lawsuit


against Crawford, two other officers and Marengo claiming civil rights
violations, excessive force, malicious prosecution and negligent hiring.

Illinois State Police Special Agent William Kroncke, who investigated


the case, and Master Sergeant Joe Perez, who oversaw it, both
declined to comment on the specifics of their investigation of the
Gaughan arrest, but they said the excessive force charges were
thoroughly probed.

“I’m confident this investigation was fully investigated,” Perez said.

The Round Lake Heights Police Department has kept Crawford on


part time, where he has been working 16 hours a week since
November 2002.

“He does a great job for me,” Round Lake Heights Police Chief Don
Johnson said.

‘I didn’t, you did’

One. Two.

One cop. Two brothers. Two seconds. Two stories.

One. Two.

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Brian Gaughan approached Shawn Scott at Settlers’ Days about a


skateboard taken from Brian’s 14-year-old brother, Patrick. To most
idling around the two men, the argument seemed more like a
discussion.

“It was actually more of an under-the-breath argument, not loud,”


said Robert Beauchamp, 19, in one of several sworn statements
given to private investigator Ciolino.

Beauchamp could overhear Crawford talking to fellow officer Kelly


Given. Crawford said if “these two kids don’t leave each other alone,
he’s going to step in and arrest them.”

“Crawford, he was like viciously smoking a cigarette, standing there,”


Beauchamp said in the sworn statement. “He flicked his cigarette on
the ground and got up in their face.”

Crawford asked Gaughan for his identification. He already knew


Scott, as the two had numerous earlier run-ins, according to the
statement.

“They just told us to break it up and that we both had two seconds or
two minutes to get off the property, or else we were going to jail,”
Scott said in a sworn statement. “And Brian just started walking
away.

“He just looked back and said, ‘One, two.’æ”

According to Crawford’s report, Gaughan “ignored (me) and


continued to walk further into the carnival area.”

Gaughan said he assumed he and Scott should walk in opposite


directions.

After Gaughan said he looked back and mouthed off with the “One,
Two” remark, Crawford told him to stop, that he was under arrest.

Charge: misdemeanor criminal trespass to state-supported land.

Crawford handcuffed Gaughan and, in his report, said he tried to


break free.

But sworn witness statements given to Ciolino said Crawford was


twisting Gaughan’s arms by yanking the handcuffs into the air as he
walked him to the police station about 100 feet away.

Gaughan fell to the asphalt, landing first on his knees and then on his
face.

“Crawford then grabbed him, kind of tripped him and threw him to
the ground,” said 19-year-old Adam J. Johnson in a sworn statement
to Ciolino.

Crawford’s police report said Gaughan “threw himself to the ground


and began screaming.”

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Charge: misdemeanor resisting a police officer.

Crawford said when he grabbed Gaughan’s wrists to get him off the
ground, Gaughan dug his fingernails into Crawford’s wrists.

Charge: felony aggravated battery.

Then Kevin Gaughan rushed to his brother’s aid. According to


Crawford’s report, he lunged into the officer’s shoulder and nearly
knocked him over.

“Brian’s brother started to help because you could hear him


screaming in pain still, I guess,” said Matt Hughes, 15, in a sworn
statement. “And that’s when (Kevin) kind of put his hand on
Crawford’s shoulder to look at his brother and everything, and the
lady (Officer Given) grabbed him really hard and put handcuffs on
him.”

Charges: felony aggravated battery and misdemeanor resisting a


police officer.

As Crawford corralled Brian Gaughan into the police station, those


looking on outside caught one last glimpse of what happened inside.

“As they are turning to shut the door, Officer Crawford … pushed him
into the wall,” 15-year-old Michael Hensley said in a sworn statement.

The station’s drywall was damaged when, according to Crawford’s


report, Gaughan purposely rammed his head into it.

Charge: felony criminal damage to state-supported property.

“As I walked through the door, my arms were lifted up and forced
forward, causing my head to hit the wall extremely hard,” Gaughan
said in his complaint to the state police. “I asked, ‘Why did you do
that?’ and Crawford replied, ‘I didn’t, you did.’æ”

Drive, determination

Crawford declined to comment many times, but an examination of his


personnel file obtained by the Daily Herald reveals an officer whose
supervisors thought had great enthusiasm. They also cautioned he
needed to show restraint.

“Ofc. Crawford in this rater’s opinion is a highly motivated officer, he


enjoys the work he does, and he sets high standards for himself,” his
sergeant wrote in his 15-month evaluation in Marengo. “Ofc.
Crawford shows great drive, ambition and determination. With these
qualities he would make an excellent detective or investigator. Ofc.
Crawford’s aggressiveness requires a great demand of self discipline,
it is easier to step back and re-evaluate the situation at hand rather
than jumping forward with both feet.”

He was hired as a Waukegan police officer in 2000 for $43,200 a


year. On his Marengo application, he said he left the more lucrative

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Waukegan job for “personal reasons” and answered “No” when asked
if he had ever been forced to resign.

But one former official acknowledged they knew an officer didn’t


decide to leave a job to make about $10,000 less a year without
good reason.

“He was a young officer who had a couple of problems where he had
been, and there was some concern,” said former Marengo police
commission head Pat Shelton.

Within months of coming to the department, Crawford received a


commendation from the Department of Children and Family Services
for helping with two children left home alone as well as two for
finding $40,000 of possible drug money and for breaking up a large
street brawl.

Within six months, he was named to the McHenry County Gang Task
Force, a post he held until his recent suspension.

Videotaped abuse

Jose Gonzalez-Suarez had been drinking. After parking his car


outside his Waukegan home in the early morning hours, the 18-year-
old sat in the driver’s seat and smoked a cigarette.

The license plates on the worn Chevy Cavalier he had recently bought
weren’t his. So when a police car pulled up behind him, he later told
police, he left the keys in the ignition and walked away.

The man’s neighbor had gotten up to use the bathroom about 2:30 a.
m., saw the police car pull up and Gonzalez-Suarez walk toward his
home.

The neighbor told police he heard the officer yell at and then handcuff
Gonzalez-Suarez during the 2001 incident.

“The officer then began yelling in Jose’s face,” a police report said.
“(The neighbor) could not make out the words. (The neighbor) then
observed the officer strike Jose to the side and back of his head with
an open hand three times.”

He turned Gonzalez-Suarez around to place him in the car, and the


officer “kicked him like a dog,” the report said.

The neighbor got his video camera. As the neighbor and his wife talk
in hushed tones, the officer on the videotape steps out of his squad
car and opens the back door.

“It appeared Officer Crawford is having words with Mr. Gonzalez,” the
police report obtained by the Daily Herald reads. “Officer Crawford
then strikes Mr. Gonzalez with his left hand two separate times.”

A videotape of the incident shows what is described in the police


report. It never was made public until now.

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About a month after a Waukegan sergeant interviewed the neighbor


and wrote the report, arrangements were made by attorneys
representing the department and Crawford for his resignation,
according to memos obtained by the Daily Herald. The charges
against Gonzalez-Suarez alleging obstructing justice, resisting arrest
and driving under the influence of alcohol were dropped.

Under the terms of a May 2003 severance agreement, anyone asking


about Crawford would be told: “At the time of Officer Crawford’s
resignation, he was a member in good standing of the department.”

A federal lawsuit filed on behalf of Gonzalez-Suarez alleging battery,


false arrest and malicious prosecution was settled by Crawford and
the department for an undisclosed amount, said Gonzalez-Suarez’s
attorney, Jed Stone.

Cause for concern?

One year after being hired in Marengo, in February 2004, Crawford


received “comments of concern” about his arrest of a man who had
outstanding warrants, including one for aggravated battery to a
police officer.

A memo from then-Chief Larry Mason notes Crawford went to serve


the warrant with others, but when they couldn’t find the man, he
hung back alone. When the suspect arrived, he saw Crawford and
fled. Crawford gave chase, catching him and using pepper spray to
end a struggle.

“The proper procedure would have been to contact backup, wait for
them to arrive and then deal with the situation,” Mason wrote in a
memo. “This would have been the safe and proper way to handle this
matter. … Again, we do not want to stifle your dedication to
enforcement activities, but we are concerned about this type of
activity.”

Eight months after that arrest the Gaughan brothers went to the
Settlers’ Day festival.

More abuse?

Private investigator Ciolino’s inquiries turned up other allegations


expected to be part of the federal lawsuit. Some of the sworn
statements were given with a Daily Herald reporter present. Those
expected to allege excessive force in the suit include:

• Nichole Surber, 16, who broke free of handcuffs during an underage


drinking arrest and tried to run. She alleges in a sworn statement
that Crawford tackled her, and two other officers kept her on the
ground while a police dog bit her.

“The whole time I was screaming because I couldn’t breathe and


none of them would get up,” Surber said in a sworn statement.

Crawford later pulled her out of a squad car by her ankles, she said,

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slamming her head on the ground after she kicked at the car’s
window.

• Zachary McMackin, 17, ran from Crawford during an underage


drinking arrest. According to his sworn statement, Crawford later
forced him to the ground, handcuffed him, hit him in the back of the
head and emptied a can of pepper spray into his face.

As Ciolino investigated the Gaughan incident and the other


allegations, the state police and the McHenry County state’s attorney
decided the brothers committed a crime when they signed their
complaints against Crawford, Special Agent William Kroncke said.

Charge: felony filing a false police report.

A grand jury agreed.

On March 1, as Brian Gaughan walked out of a barn where he had


been rebuilding an engine, nearly a dozen McHenry County sheriff’s
officers and Illinois State Police started yelling at him to put his hands
in the air. If convicted, he faces up to 13 years in prison.

A similar police crew showed up in ****** to arrest Kevin Gaughan


at his apartment. He faces nine years in prison.

A police family

Perhaps no one has been so surprised at the Gaughan family being


on the wrong side of the police as the Gaughan family.

The family doesn’t have a problem with law enforcement. The family
is law enforcement.

In addition to Gaughan Sr.’s law enforcement work, Carolyn Gaughan


currently is a guard at the McHenry County jail.

At 20 years old, Gaughan Sr. left his hometown of Chicago to become


a Davenport, Iowa, police officer, where he met Carolyn, his training
officer.

In 1984, after she had been on the Davenport force for 10 years, and
he for four, they decided to settle in Marengo.

He took a job with the Arlington Heights Police Department, and she
worked for the Bartlett and Bull Valley police departments, and
Motorola before becoming a jail guard.

In 1989, Gaughan Sr. decided to leave the police department to


become a firefighter, believing that would give him more opportunity
to help people.

So the Gaughan family didn’t exactly expect what was to come.

“I’ve been around policemen my whole life and I’ve never seen
anything as appalling as what happened to my own children,” Carolyn
Gaughan said.

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What next?

The Gaughan brothers case remains in the pretrial stage.

On April 7 of this year, Crawford was placed on paid administrative


leave pending internal investigations for three “violations of
department policy” stemming from a high-speed chase, an incident
involving a “hostile” work environment, and a charge of lying on his
job application.

In June, the Marengo Police Department suspended Crawford without


pay and set a police commission meeting to decide his fate that is
set, after a delay, for Aug. 2 and, if necessary, Aug. 3.

One. Two.

One cop. Two brothers. Two seconds. Two stories.

One. Two.

Of his sons, Gaughan Sr, said, “We’re not going to have their career
paths derailed because of this rogue policeman.”

Of her client, Crawford’s attorney Erika Raskopf said, “There’s always


two sides to a story, and we’ll wait to have our case tried not in the
media but before the board.”

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chitownbrian Accuracy of investigation against officer questioned


Senior Member By Garrett Ordower
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Location: Chicago area
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An investigation has begun into whether the Illinois State Police acted
appropriately while looking into an excessive force complaint against
a Marengo police officer, according to a letter signed by state police
Director Larry Trent.

Marengo suspended the officer on unrelated charges last month, and


is asking for him to be fired. The original investigation into excessive
force began in October 2004 after officer Scott Crawford arrested two
brothers for offenses including aggravated battery and resisting
arrest after a scuffle at Marengo’s annual Settlers’ Day festival.

That investigation cleared Crawford about a month later, but led to


the felony indictments of Brian Gaughan, 21, and his brother Kevin,
18, for filing false police reports.

The Gaughan family has questioned the impartiality and validity of


that investigation because they said it ignored potential witnesses
and a history of complaints against the officer. Crawford, 26,
resigned from the Waukegan Police Department in 2002 amid
allegations of excessive force that included a videotaped beating of
an 18-year-old drunken driving suspect, according to documents
obtained by the Daily Herald.

Brian Gaughan Sr. recently sent an eight-page letter and other


documents to his state Rep. Jack Franks, a Woodstock Democrat,
detailing his view of the state police’s investigation into the October
arrest, and alleging the state police intimidated witnesses and his
sons during the course of the investigation. Franks forwarded the
letter and documents to the state police.

“Upon review of the documents provided, I have instructed the


Division of Internal Investigation to initiate an investigation to
determine if the ISP Agent acted appropriately during the
investigation,” Trent wrote in a July 11 letter to Franks. “The ISP
takes allegations such as these very seriously, and an in-depth
investigation is being conducted into this matter.”

State police spokesman Lincoln Hampton said the investigation could


be concluded within two weeks. Hampton said that Special Agent
William Kroncke, who conducted the original investigation, would not
be placed on leave during the inquiry.

Hampton and the state police agents conducting the investigation


declined to comment on its specifics Wednesday.

Previously, Illinois State Police Master Sergeant Joe Perez, who


supervised the original investigation, said it was complete and

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impartial.

“I’m confident the investigation was fully investigated,” Perez said in


an April interview with the Daily Herald. “They talked to any potential
witnesses.”

A copy of the state police investigation obtained by the Daily Herald


indicates that the state police talked to one witness not directly
involved in the October argument between Brian Gaughan and a 25-
year-old man that spurred the arrest.

Brian Gaughan Sr. claims to have given the state police the names of
more than 20 witnesses, and the Daily Herald has sworn statements
from numerous witnesses given to private investigator Paul Ciolino
that back up the Gaughans’ version of events.

“If somebody had 20 witnesses standing out there and didn’t bring
them forward to us, well, then I guess that’s their fault,” Kroncke
said in a previous interview.

Kroncke said that the charges against the Gaughan brothers for filing
a false report “had nothing to do with any people we talked to,” and
were based solely on discrepancies and alleged recantations in the
brothers’ statements to police.

While Brian Gaughan said the argument initially started over a stolen
skateboard, he said he later learned his 14-year-old brother’s friend
traded the skateboard for marijuana.

After clearing Crawford, the state police questioned Kevin Gaughan


as to why the argument started and what he said to police. He claims
they also threatened him with arrest for a string of unrelated car
burglaries for which another man since has been indicted.

“They wanted me to say I made everything up,” he said.

After more than five hours of police questioning, Kevin Gaughan


agreed to write another statement.

It reads almost the same as the one given a month earlier, except for
the last three lines: “Later on I heard that the argument was about
drugs. Brian told me after we met with the state police that the
argument was about drugs. Brian and I talked about what happened
after the incident.”

Based on his statement and interview, the state police report


concluded that Kevin hadn’t seen much of the arrest and the brothers
“made certain that both their statements were identically (sic)
regardless of their validity.”

“I saw everything,” Kevin Gaughan said. “They just made that up.”

The state police declined to comment on the specifics of the


investigation, but Perez said “if somebody tells us an argument was
about a certain matter and it turns out it was about something else,
we report that.”

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As to why the state police did not look into Crawford’s disciplinary
history, Kroncke said in April: “When we look into the allegation, we
look into that allegation. … It’s not our job to look into someone’s
job, rumors and innuendo.”

According to the state police reports, Crawford’s sole interview with


the state police lasted less than an hour.

The Illinois State Police conduct 15 to 20 investigations a year into


police shootings and allegations of excessive force for other agencies,
a spokesman said. Those investigations often are done on behalf of
smaller departments like Marengo that cannot conduct an impartial
internal investigation on its own.

“Somebody wanted the state police and they got the state police, and
they got an impartial, non-prejudiced investigation,” Kroncke said.

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07-16-2005 01:05 AM

GC Marciano Interesting... is anybody surprised that the criminal cop was


Copwatcher Extraordinaire cleared, then the citizens who reported him were charged with
felonies?

This is in line with what I always warn about : When someone


files a complaint against a cop, the complainant will end up being
charged with some home-brewed, manufactured offense in an
attempt to destroy his/her credibility.

It's called "cops covering for cops" and it happens more often
Registered: Jul 2003 than anybody would like to believe.
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Attachment: crawford.jpg
This has been downloaded 206 time(s).

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that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment resulting
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authority to bind Copwatch or to act on its behalf. My opinions, ideas, theories


and beliefs are my own and are not necessarily supported, condoned (or often
even appreciated) by Copwatch, it's subsidiaries or agents.

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ginger0408 amazing video


Incompletely Registered -
Possibly a SOL
does anyone know what if anything happened to this cop regarding
this incident?
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07-19-2005 02:09 AM

GC Marciano He is currently suspended pending investigation, most likely he


Copwatcher Extraordinaire will be dismissed in August when the board meets simply because
the city commission will now view him as a liability. I am almost
certain that no criminal charges will be brought and he will not be
forced to face accountability for his actions.

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Registered: Jul 2003 the Internet is to inform the public for its own safety, not to humiliate the
Location: Chicago, Illinois officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
Posts: 9967 officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the state
that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment resulting
from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind of
fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme Court

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be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
authority to bind Copwatch or to act on its behalf. My opinions, ideas, theories
and beliefs are my own and are not necessarily supported, condoned (or often
even appreciated) by Copwatch, it's subsidiaries or agents.

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07-19-2005 11:26 AM

chitownbrian He is currently working as a police officer in Round Lake Heights, IL.


Senior Member Apparently, not enough citizens have been beaten by him in Round
Lake Heights for him to get fired from there yet.
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chitownbrian he Northwest Herald


Senior Member
Marengo has history of hiring
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Chicago area police castoffs
Posts: 103

By JOSH STOCKINGER
jstockinger@nwherald.com

When John Zitek picked up a newspaper last year and read about the
beating of a Marengo police officer in a DuPage County jail, he was
flabbergasted.

It wasn't the gruesome details that knocked him off his feet, he said,
but the words "police officer" printed before Joseph Sangirardi's
name.

"I was dumbfounded that somebody would hire somebody without


checking their background," said Zitek, chief of Stickney Police
Department. "After all, they're going to be carrying a gun and a
badge."

Stickney's Police and Fire Commission fired Sangirardi in 1999 for


insubordination and threatening a local businessman, court
documents said.

Zitek said Friday that no one contacted the Stickney Police


Department to check Sangirardi's background before Sangirardi was
hired at the Marengo Police Department in 2001.

The Marengo department and its former leaders have come under
scrutiny recently, as the checkered past of a different officer, Scott
Crawford, came to light.

Both former police Chief Larry Mason and former police and fire
commissioner Pat Shelton said they did not know Crawford resigned
from the Waukegan police force in 2001 in the wake of a civil-rights
lawsuit over the use of excessive force on a Mexican immigrant.

The Waukegan department has admitted to having a gag order that


kept them from discussing the suit. However, a quick search of court
records, which are public record, would have turned up the
information about Crawford.

Shelton said the commission never would have hired Crawford if


members knew of the lawsuit.

However, he said he would wait for the outcome of a disciplinary


hearing into separate allegations against the officer before deciding
whether the hire was a bad move.

"If, in fact, we made a bad decision, we have to live with that," he


said. "I'm not happy about it."

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Regarding Sangirardi, Shelton said the commission knew he had had


"some problems" in Stickney, but it felt he would perform well in
Marengo. He said he was surprised no one contacted the Stickney
force.

Meanwhile, a handful of teenagers are threatening to sue the city


over arrests in which they say Crawford either roughed them up or
doused them unnecessarily with pepper spray. No lawsuits have been
filed.

And the Illinois State Police have reopened an investigation into


allegations that Crawford roughed up two brothers at a local festival
last year.

Mason could not be reached Friday for comment on Zitek's account of


the Sangirardi background check. Sangirardi could not be reached for
comment.

A person who identified herself as Crawford's wife said neither he nor


his attorney, Erika Raskopt, would comment on the complaints.

Mason said the police department was short-staffed by about four


officers in early 2003 and had little time and few resources to fill the
gaps. He expressed a sense of urgency to the police and fire
commission at the time, Shelton said.

"[Mason] was the one creating the urgency," Shelton said. "He said
we needed the people, and the best way to get them was to hire the
people who had the credentials and were ready to go."

Of the roughly 50 applicants for the jobs, Shelton said, Crawford


quickly rose to the top of the list. He already had underwent training
at a police academy, which could save the city money and time. And
he tested well on regular polygraph, physical and psychological
exams.

Mason said someone from the department called Waukegan for


references.

"I had heard some negative stuff about Waukegan, but when we
checked with the command over there, they gave him a clean bill of
health," Mason said.

He said he had no reason to search further.

By February 2003, Crawford was working full-time in Marengo. He


also maintained a part-time position with the Round Lake Heights
Police Department.

Mason said complaints were lodged against Crawford periodically, but


they were unfounded.

"[Crawford] is what I'd say is an aggressive officer, he's out there


digging all the time," Mason said. "Some police officers ride around in
a patrol car, and that's what they do. Crawford's one of those that
gets out there and looks for the bad guys."

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Shelton says he is disturbed about all the media attention given to


Crawford and questions about Shelton's volunteer role as a past
commissioner.

Now a city alderman, he said it is "hard to tell" where communication


breakdowns might have occurred during the hiring of two officers
with checkered histories.

"I definitely think that the commission, now and in the future, will be
much more careful, and I think there will probably be some people
who won't be hired that would have been hired," he said. "If anything
turns up now, you won't want to take a chance."

Alderman Jack Genot said he planned to call for a change of


procedure after wrapping up Crawford's hearing in August. The Police
and Fire Commission could fire him for allegedly breaking department
rules, including withholding information on his job application.

"I don't know how this man slipped through the cracks," Genot said.
"But when this is all over, the council should review the procedures to
make sure this doesn't happen again."

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chitownbrian Lawsuit against Marengo, cop in offing


Senior Member

Registered: Nov 2004 [published on Fri, Aug 5, 2005]


Location: Chicago area By JOSH STOCKINGER
Posts: 103
jstockinger@nwherald.com

MARENGO – Five people are prepared to bring a federal civil-rights


lawsuit against embattled police officer Scott Crawford and the city of
Marengo, a Chicago lawyer said Thursday.

The complaints will range from negligent hiring by the city to the use
of excessive force, malicious prosecution, false arrest, and battery at
the officer's hands, attorney Kevin E. O'Reilly said.

The lawsuit will name brothers Brian and Kevin Gaughan, 22 and 19;
Steve Beisner, 17; Zachary McMackin, 17; and Nichole Surber, 16, as
complainants, O'Reilly said, and might include others.

"You don't usually get this many claims against the same person in a
small town like Marengo," he said. "I've never seen anything as bad
as this."

With the exception of Kevin Gaughan of ******, each of O'Reilly's


clients lives in Marengo. All claim to have been roughed up, beaten or
unnecessarily doused with chemical irritant by Crawford.

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Reached by telephone Thursday, Crawford said he would not


comment at the advice of his attorney and because he still was
employed by the Marengo Police Department.

"There's two sides to every story," Crawford said. "I really want to
tell mine, but I've got to wait."

His attorney, Erika Raskopf of the Fraternal Order of Police Labor


Council, declined to comment because the lawsuit had not been filed.

Paul Ciolino, a private investigator working on O'Reilly's case, said


the lawsuit would seek millions of dollars in damages and could
include counts against additional officers, whom he declined to name.

The investigator said he had amassed "overwhelming" amounts of


evidence against Crawford and the city's past administration. Both
parties should be prepared for a massive legal battle, he said.

"The train has left the station, and it's heading right down to
Marengo," Ciolino said.

City officials said they took the news seriously but were not
surprised.

Mayor Don Lockhart said he had heard such legal threats since taking
office in April. He added that the ordeal would not bode well for
Marengo's finances, although the city had liability insurance.

Marengo Police Chief Les Kottke was unfamiliar with the majority of
the people who plan to file suit, he said. Only two of the five named
complained about Crawford since Kottke became chief last year, he
said.

That complaint came from the Gaughan family and prompted Kottke
to request a state police investigation into accusations that Crawford
roughed up the brothers at an October festival last year. The probe
cleared the officer of wrongdoing and led to the subsequent
indictment of the Gaughans on charges of falsifying a police report.

State police reopened the case to investigate their own handling of


the probe after the Gaughans' father alleged that the investigation
was botched. Spokesman Lt. Lincoln Hampton said Thursday that the
investigation was ongoing.

Crawford also was the target of a separate civil-rights lawsuit in 2001


when he was a Waukegan police officer. The lawsuit, which alleged
that the officer repeatedly struck a handcuffed Mexican immigrant,
was settled for $30,000. The Waukegan incident was captured on
video.

Crawford now faces separate accusations from the Marengo force


that he took part in an improper high-speed chase, fostered a hostile
work environment, and lied about the previous civil lawsuit on his
application.

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A disciplinary hearing with the police and fire commission was


postponed Tuesday until Aug. 18. Crawford was hired in February
2003 and has been on unpaid suspension since June. He could be
fired.

O'Reilly likely will file the civil lawsuit at the Northern District federal
court in Chicago, he said, and expects the case to be moved to
Rockford for jurisdictional purposes. He said he expected to file the
lawsuit by October.

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informational purposes only and is not to be used in any unlawful manner,
including but not limited to transmitting obscene comments, jamming or any
other type of malicious interference that may disrupt the communications of
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GETTING CAUGHT can be punishable by up to a $25,000 fine and 10 years
imprisonment.

In other words, they can break the law, you can't.

Have fun.

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officer. Even if the collateral effect of the Internet posting is to shame the
officer, this effect is the result of the Officer's crimes. We agree with the state
that the right to be free from the shame, stigma and embarrassment resulting
from crimes committed by Sworn Officers of the Law is not the kind of
fundamental right contemplated by our constitution." - Illinois Supreme Court

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be viewed as fact. I am not a speaking agent for Copwatch and have no
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chitownbrian This week, a $66 MILLION dollar lawsuit, comprising 44 counts of


Senior Member civil rights violations, 79 pages in length, was filed against The City of
Marengo, Officer Scott Crawford, Former Chief Larry Mason, and
Registered: Nov 2004 Officer Kelly Given.
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 103 Today, Thursday, AUg 18th, the Police & Fire Commission was
supposed to hear the arguement to fire Scott Crawford. It was a
joke. 90 minutes worth of closed door meetings, and a continuance
was granted. What a joke, it was a bunch of hicks with their lawyers
scampering around trying to cover thier ass. All the tough guys are
running for cover when they get sued big time. Screw 'em, hope they
all get slammed and loose their houses over these suits.

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08-19-2005 02:58 AM

GC Marciano $66,000,000.00
Copwatcher Extraordinaire
The news media is having a blast with this one here in Northern
Illinois... Here are only a few of the latest news articles
concerning this forced accountability that is being brought upon
Marengo's braindead swine and their pig-protecting scumbag
cohorts in Marengo IL:

• http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...i-newslocal-hed
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Chicago, Illinois • http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/081...ssiveforce.html
Posts: 9967
• http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/l..._228181047.html

• http://mesh.medill.northwestern.edu...rce_city_o.html

• http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8975940/

• http://flyservers.com/members5/poli...is_police2.html

• http://207.126.126.11/includes/news...n_id=9&id=18071

• http://www.dailyherald.com/search/s...ry.asp?id=83371

• http://www.nbc5.com/news/4860039/detail.html

• http://mesh.medill.northwestern.edu...rce_city_o.html

• http://www.kcchronicle.com/MainSect...93738537800.php

I hope they are forced to pay every last dime and the little
Crawford bitch ends up working the night shift at a local gas
station trying to pay his debt to society for the rest of his
worthless life.

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Navigatr1 Parents Allege Marengo Cop Violated Children's Civil Rights


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Parents Allege Marengo Cop Violated Children's Civil Rights


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8975940/
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Location: MARENGO, Ill. - A 44-count complaint has been filed in court alleging
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that a Marengo police officer violated the civil rights of at least six
young people.

The complaint was filed in court on Monday, and also alleged that the
city and its former police chief were negligent and reckless in their
hiring and retention of him, NBC5's Natalie Martinez reported. The
plaintiffs' attorneys are seeking $1.5 million for each victim.

Crawford is on unpaid leave while the police department seeks


termination. The city attorney said the city would have no comment
until the police commission's hearing on Thursday.

A video that attorneys showed ultimately led to police Officer Scott


Crawford's termination from the Waukegan Police Department a few
years ago. The tape showed Crawford hitting a young man twice in
the face. Attorneys for the six teenagers, 20-somethings, and their
parents said it's a pattern that Marengo police should have seen
when he was hired in 2003.

"Crawford is a rogue cop," said attorney Kevin O'Reilly. "He is unfit to


serve as a police officer because he has a propensity for beating
victims while in handcuffs."

Many of the parents spoke out -- sometimes tearfully -- about their


children's allegations and how Crawford allegedly ruined their lives,
and how his partner allegedly acted as an accomplice.

"By the end of the evening, both of my sons had been charged with

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multiple felonies, and my son Brian had been brutally beaten and
assaulted by Officer Scott Crawford in front of over 20 eyewitnesses,"
said parent Brian Gaughan, Sr.

"Our son was beaten, pepper-sprayed and tortured for no other


reason than he was walking down the street, literally minding his own
business," said Karen Beinser, the mother of one of the victims.

A private investigator hired by one of the parents said that the young
people were charged with felonies. Parents said Crawford, who is a
part-time officer in a nearby town, has also partly ruined their lives,
and much of their effort is to clear their families' names.

"The state police, the McHenry County Sheriff's Department, and


everyone else has been concealing what's been going on in this
case," said Paul Ciolino, a private investigator hired by one of the
parents.

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jackcarter Officer leaves job before his hearing


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Officer leaves job before his hearing


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By Garrett Ordower
Daily Herald Staff Writer
Posted Wednesday, August 31, 2005

Officer Scott Crawford resigned from the Marengo Police Department


on Tuesday night in what he called an “amicable parting,” just as a
hearing was to begin on allegations that could have led to his firing.

The resignation will likely have repercussions on a multi-million-dollar


civil lawsuit accusing him of brutality and on ongoing criminal cases,

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including one against two brothers charged with assaulting him.

The department wanted to fire him for lying on his job application
and fostering a hostile work environment. His resignation avoided a
public airing of the department’s case, and Crawford maintained his
innocence.

“I’m relieved it’s over,” the 26-year-old officer said. “I’m glad it’s
done. …. I did what was best for me and my family.”

Neither Crawford nor the department would discuss the specifics of


the agreement, such as whether he would receive severance pay or
insurance. The Marengo city council will decide next month whether
to approve the agreement, at which point the terms would become
public, officials said.

This marks the second time Crawford has resigned from a police
department. In 2003 he left the Waukegan Police Department after
being videotaped beating a handcuffed suspect, according to
materials obtained by the Daily Herald.

That resignation happened quietly, while this one took place as


dozens of people and the media watched. Many of those in
attendance at the hearing are involved with the federal civil rights
lawsuit filed earlier this month against Crawford and the department
alleging that he brutalized six young people and the department
ignored his conduct.

What the resignation means for that lawsuit and criminal cases where
Crawford will likely be called as a witness remains to be seen.
Brothers Brian Gaughan, 22, and Kevin, 18, have a court appearance
at 9 a.m. today on charges they assaulted Crawford. The McHenry
County State’s Attorney’s office has said they would pay attention to
the hearing and decide whether it affects their case.

“How do you bring him in to testify now?” private investigator Paul


Ciolino said after the hearing. “Every day (the state’s attorney) goes
forward, they’re digging themselves a bigger hole. They have an
opportunity to do the right thing, and I hope they do it.”

Crawford — who continues to work part-time as a Round Lake


Heights police officer — said he looks forward to spending time with
his wife and 2-year-old son and deciding what the future holds.

“I hope to (continue working in law enforcement), if that’s what I


choose,” he said.

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jackcarter Officer’s resignation won’t slow case against Marengo brothers


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By Charles Keeshan
Daily Herald Staff Writer
Posted Thursday, September 01, 2005

McHenry County prosecutors are moving forward with charges


against two Marengo brothers accused of assaulting a police officer
last year, despite the officer’s abrupt resignation this week amid a
flurry of complaints about his on-duty conduct and his chief’s efforts
to fire him.

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Some of those complaints stemmed from former officer Scott


Crawford’s arrest of Brian and Kevin Gaughan during an October
2004 altercation at a city festival. The brothers, and some other
witnesses, claim Crawford initiated the confrontation and used
excessive force while taking them into custody.

However, Assistant McHenry County State’s Attorney Nichole Owens


said Wednesday Crawford’s decision to step down Tuesday does not
jeopardize the case against the Gaughans.

“His resignation will not affect our case,” she said. “We will call him
as a witness.”

The Gaughans face aggravated battery and resisting arrest charges


in connection with a clash with Crawford and a second officer during
a village festival last year. The charges allege Brian, 22, scratched
Crawford during the incident while Kevin, 19, shoved the officer.

They also face felony charges alleging they lied to state police
investigators looking into their claims Crawford abused them during
the arrests.

The Gaughans, however, claim Crawford was the aggressor. Last


month they joined four teens in filing a federal civil rights lawsuit
against the officer and the city of Marengo alleging police
misconduct and excessive force.

Their defense attorney, Michael T. Norris, said Wednesday he would


be surprised if Crawford ever testifies against his clients.

“If he takes the stand, I can’t imagine his lawyer would not tell him
to take the Fifth Amendment,” Norris said. “Realistically, it would be
very difficult to call him as a witness because of his credibility, but I
would look forward to asking him questions under oath.”

Owens, however, said at least in the Gaughan case Crawford’s


credibility is not a problem.

“The case is not based only on (Crawford’s) testimony,” she said.


“We plan to call witnesses who will corroborate his version of the
events.”

With regard to testifying at any trial and how that would go,
Crawford said, “That would be up to the state’s attorney.”

Asked how he would explain his resignation to a jury, Crawford


replied, “I resigned.”

The Gaughans, who appeared in court briefly Wednesday morning,


are scheduled back before Judge Joseph Condon Sept. 27 for a
hearing on whether they can subpoena records detailing Crawford’s
educational background and work-related documents from the
Waukegan, Rockford and Marengo police departments.

Prosecutors are opposing the subpoenas, saying the information is

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irrelevant to the events that led to the Gaughans’ arrests.

Crawford’s resignation Tuesday was his second as a police officer.


He stepped down from his post in the Waukegan Police Department
in 2003 after being videotaped beating a handcuffed suspect.

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GC Marciano I wonder if beating a handcuffed man or a teenage girl made


Copwatcher Extraordinaire Scott Crawford feel like a man?

Crawford, you pussy...

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jackcarter I am sure that most are aware that Crawford works in Round Lake
Junior Member Heights as a part-timer. I made several attempts to contact the
Chief there as well as the Mayor. I sent over 80 e-mails to the
Registered: Sep 2005 Round Lake H.S. teachers. Kind of funny how I have not received
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Navigatr1 jackcarter, could you please include the links with your news
Extended Sabatical stories? I would appreciate it very much. What is the link to where
you got your last story?

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too often law enforcement officers just get a slap on the wrist. The use of these
articles is for non-profit use, as well as educational and historical purposes.

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guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
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chitownbrian I can help you out with that! The Daily Herald @ www.dailyherald.
Senior Member com & the Northwest Herald @ www.nwherald.com both have had
many, many stories on this case. All of the television stations in
Registered: Nov 2004 Chicago have also had the story on numerous times also. If you'd
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 103 like to find out more on the story, run the victims last name &
Marengo in google. The media link hits are many. Try "Brian
Gaughan Marengo Police" in Google. I hope I helped you out.
Thanks for your interest.

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Posts: 9 much. What is the link to where you got your last
story?

--Navigatr1

You can find a lot of the articles on my site in this section:

http://lenasbooks.proboards28.com/index.cgi?board=pd

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jackcarter Crawford resigns


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Navigatr1 Two police officers included in lawsuit


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Two police officers included in lawsuit


http://www.dailyherald.com/search/s...y.asp?id=234514

Registered: Jul 2003 By Charles Keeshan


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Posts: 31403
Posted Tuesday, October 03, 2006

A pair of brothers at the center of a long-running police abuse


controversy in McHenry County are now suing two Illinois State
Police investigators, claiming they conspired to bring false charges
against them.

The new claims, filed Monday in U.S. District Court, are part of a
larger multimillion-dollar civil rights suit brothers Brian and Kevin
Gaughan and four others filed last year against the city of Marengo,
two of its former police officers and its former police chief.

The new allegations claim State Police Special Agent William


Kroncke and Investigator Virgil Schroeder physically and verbally
abused Kevin Gaughan, 20, during a November 2004 interrogation.

During that questioning, Kroncke and Schroeder say, Gaughan


recanted previous abuse claims he and his older brother had made
against ex-Marengo cop Scott Crawford. That led authorities to file
felony charges against the brothers for making false claims against
Crawford.

The lawsuit alleges the investigators threatened Gaughan


throughout the interview, intimidated him by assaulting another
man in his presence and struck him in the head on two occasions.

State police spokesman Lt. Lincoln Hampton declined comment on


the lawsuit.

However, he noted that both state police and the McHenry County

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state’s attorney’s office have investigated the Gaughans’ allegations


and cleared both Kroncke and Schroeder of wrongdoing.

The allegations against Kroncke and Schroeder also are the subject
of a pending legal decision as to whether county prosecutors can
use evidence of Gaughan’s purported recantation if their case goes
to trial.

The brothers’ defense lawyer is asking a judge to bar the evidence


because, he claims, state police unlawfully interrogated Kevin
Gaughan. Judge Joseph Condon is scheduled to rule on the request
Oct. 13.

The new allegations are the latest twist in an ongoing episode that
began in October 2004 when Kevin and Brian Gaughan, 22, were
arrested outside Marengo’s Settlers Days festival.

During the arrests, the brothers claimed, Crawford slammed Brian


Gaughan’s head into a wall at the city’s police station. Crawford
later resigned from the force for unrelated reasons.

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chitownbrian What the Daily Herald article left out was that this entire episode
Senior Member was caught on cameras in the police station. The film clearly shows
Kevin Gaughan, a college student studying Criminal Justice, with no
Registered: Nov 2004 prior criminal record, seated in a chair, being slapped twice in the
Location: Chicago area face by IL State police Investigator William Kroncke, while his
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partner in crime, Virgil Schroeder, looks on.

Also caught on video is a handcuffed man, being brought into the


booking room, where Kevin is being questioned. The handcuffed
man tells Kevin, "Don't talk to cops without a lawyer!" At which
point IL State Police Investigator William Kroncke gets up from his
chair and punches the handcuffed man in the head, knocking his
out. Again, all caught on video.

What's interesting to note here is that at the time, Kevin Gaughan


was not under arrest, or a suspect in a crime. He was listed as a
witness in a month old police brutality complaint. He went to the PD
at the request of IL State Police, who lied and told him they were
investigating the officer. Once at the station, Kevin was put into a
cell, threatened, slapped, and saw a man knocked out right in front
of him. He was told "You're next if you keep up the story of police
abuse."

IL State Police claim they have investigated this incident, and


cleared the officers. A LIE!!! They have never ever spoken to Kevin
or the man who was knocked out by Inv Kroncke. The video is
widely circulated on the internet, I will post a link shortly.

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GC Marciano See the latest NBC News video here:


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Mack I think a relative of the victim has posted a few articles and links
Assistant Moderator here somewhere, but I'm not sure where.

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GC Marciano They are by Chitownbrian, the thread is in the Illinois forum


Copwatcher Extraordinaire somewhere.

I'd post a link but the Search feature is being a bitch again.

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Navigatr1 Moderator Note:


Extended Sabatical I found the thread using the search term Scott, and merged
everrything. Crawford, Marengo, and Gaughan didn't yeild anything.

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Navigatr1 State, Marengo police sued again over taped incident


Extended Sabatical

State, Marengo police sued again over taped incident


http://www.dailyherald.com/news/mch...091&cc=m&tc=&t=

Registered: Jul 2003 By Charles Keeshan


Location: Daily Herald Staff Writer
Posts: 31403
Posted Friday, October 13, 2006

A man shown on a 2004 police surveillance video being shoved face


first into a wall at the Marengo police station filed a $18.5 million
federal civil lawsuit this week against the city, a former police
officer and two Illinois State Police agents.

The lawsuit, filed by Marengo resident Orest Hedio, claims officers


from the two agencies beat him unconscious to “send a message”
to a teenager watching the incident.

“Orest was just a pawn in their conspiracy to intimidate that young


man,” Hedio attorney Albert Wysocki said Thursday.

As a result of the incident Hedio, 46, suffered permanent brain


injuries that cause him to suffer seizures, private investigator Paul
Ciolino said.

“The guy is a mess,” Ciolino said. “He’s got serious problems.”

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Named as defendants in the lawsuit are the city of Marengo, former


Marengo Police Chief Larry Mason, former city police officer David
Mahlke and Illinois State Police agents Virgil Schroeder and William
Kroncke.

State Police spokesman Lt. Lincoln Hampton declined comment on


the lawsuit, but reiterated that an internal investigation by the
agency and a second inquiry by the McHenry County State’s
Attorney cleared Kroncke and Schroeder of wrongdoing.

Marengo Deputy Police Chief Joseph Hallman said he had not seen
the lawsuit Thursday and therefore could not comment. Mahlke,
who is now Wonder Lake’s police chief, could not be reached
Thursday.

The video has been the source of an ongoing legal battle in the case
of Marengo brothers Brian and Kevin Gaughan. The Gaughans, who
also are suing the city and state police agents, accused former
Marengo officer Scott Crawford of excessive force in 2004 after
their arrest at a city festival.

Kroncke and Schroeder were questioning Kevin Gaughan, now 20,


about that incident on Nov. 9, 2004, at the police station when
Mahlke brought Hedio into the interrogation area.

A surveillance camera inside the station captured Mahlke shoving


Hedio into a wall as Gaughan looks on. Kroncke then stands,
approaches Hedio and makes a movement toward him that the
Marengo man claims was a punch. Hedio then fell to the floor,
apparently unconscious.

Hedio’s lawsuit claims the officers beat him in order to frighten


Gaughan into recanting his excessive force claims against Crawford.

Both Kroncke and Mahlke have denied the allegations in court


hearings on the Gaughans’ case. Both denied Hedio was punched
and said their actions were necessary to get an intoxicated and
belligerent person under control. Hedio at the time was in custody
on a domestic battery charge.

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Navigatr1 Judge finds investigators didn't abuse Marengo teen


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Judge finds investigators didn't abuse Marengo teen


http://www.dailyherald.com/story.asp?id=238344

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Posted Saturday, October 14, 2006

State investigators did not threaten, intimidate or abuse a Marengo


teen into making a false confession against himself and his older
brother, a McHenry County judge said Friday in a much-anticipated
ruling that hands a huge victory to McHenry County prosecutors
and state police.

Denying a defense request to throw out the confession, Judge


Joseph Condon ruled that prosecutors could present evidence that
Kevin Gaughan, now 20, told authorities he made up claims he saw
a Marengo police officer shove his older brother, Brian Gaughan,
head first into a wall in 2004.

Condon’s four-page written decision also rejects allegations a state


police investigator punched another suspect in Gaughan’s presence
to intimidate the teenager. A video recording showing the younger
Gaughan’s interrogation does not show that, the judge said.

“The defendant was not subjected to any physical mistreatment,”


Condon states. “Defendant’s counsel argues the video images
disclose coercive behavior by the Illinois State Police. The testimony
and the video images do not support the defendant’s argument.”

The ruling follows five afternoons of testimony on the behavior of


state police Special Agents William Kroncke and Virgil Schroeder
during their Nov. 9, 2004, interrogation of Kevin Gaughan at the
Marengo police station.

Gaughan’s attorney claimed the investigators conspired with


Marengo police to intimidate the then-18-year-old college student
with verbal threats, physical abuse and the beating of another
suspect in his presence until he took back accusations that a
Marengo police officer used excessive force against his brother
during an October 2004 arrest.

Schroeder and Kroncke testified the younger Gaughan admitted


making up the story during the two-hour interview. The admission,
which was never written or captured on tape, led to felony charges

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of filing false police reports against the brothers.

Condon’s ruling Friday seems to clear the officers of wrongdoing


and allows them to testify that Gaughan recanted if the case goes
to trial.

“This is a complete vindication, confirmation and affirmation of good


police officers,” McHenry County State’s Attorney Louis Bianchi said
Friday. “These officers have been maligned and slandered
significantly in past months.”

The special agents’ boss, state police Master Sgt. Joe Perez, said he
was relieved, but not surprised, by the decision.

“We saw the videotape and were confident they acted


appropriately,” he said. “I think it shows that vilifying officers and
calling it the defense of your client is not going to work.”

But Gaughan attorney Michael Norris said he does not believe a jury
will reach the same conclusions as Condon after seeing the
videotaped interrogation.

“I don’t believe any 12 people in this county are going to buy into
what Kroncke and Schroeder did in that video,” Norris said. “I
believe there is something seriously wrong in McHenry County that
handcuffed people keep getting smashed into walls.”

The Gaughans’ arrest in October 2004 and their subsequent claims


of police misconduct set off a still unfolding string of events that
have included the dismissal of two Marengo police officers,
conspiracy and abuse allegations against state police investigators
and two multi-million-dollar civil rights lawsuits against state police
and Marengo.

The latest came Wednesday when Marengo resident Orest Hedio


sued Kroncke, Schroeder, former Marengo police officer David
Mahlke and the city for what occurred on the videotaped interview
with Kevin Gaughan.

Hedio, 46, is the man shown, as some believe, being thrown to the
ground and knocked unconscious during the videotaped interview
with Kevin Gaughan. His lawsuit claims it was a punch from
Kroncke that knocked him out and he has a permanent brain injury
as a result. Kroncke, Schroeder and Mahlke have denied Hedio’s
claims.

Condon sided with the officers in his ruling Friday.

“Agent William Kroncke did not punch Orest Hedio,” the judge said.
“The video does not depict any physical contact between the two
men.”

Condon said the agents displayed a “rough demeanor” with


Gaughan, yelling at him and showing considerable disdain for him
during the videotaped interview. But those actions, he said, never

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seemed to frighten or intimidate Gaughan.

“His demeanor as seen in the video appears calm, composed and


communicative,” the judge wrote. “He did not appear to become
agitated, defensive or uncomfortable regardless of the policemen’s
behavior.”

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chitownbrian Scott Crawford still doesn't get it. After having been shown the door
Senior Member from Waukegan, IL PD, and from Marengo, IL PD, he still has an
idea that he can somehow still be a cop.
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Chicago area As usual, he lies on his application, and as usual, the departments
Posts: 103 he used to work for don't say why he is no longer employed there,
too afraid of being sued I imagine.

Scott Crawford must have been in his glory a few months ago,
when his application full of lies was picked to be hired as a cop in
Highwood, IL, a northern Chicago suburb. The only problem is that
people, a lot of people, have an interest in Crawford and soon
discovered his new job as a cop. Once the City of Highwood was
alerted to the thug/criminal/swine soon to be a lawsuit liability they
had working for them as a cop, they showed him the door. Kudos to
the City Of Highwood for doing the right thing.

Memo to Scott Crawford: I hear Wal-Mart is looking for security, try


there.

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liberranter Re: Judge finds investigators didn't abuse Marengo teen


Super Moderator
quote:

Originally posted by Navigatr1


Condon sided with the officers in his ruling
Friday.

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chitownbrian Yes, he did. We'll just have to wait and see what a jury of 12 thinks
Senior Member about the video. I am quite certain they won't have the same dim-
witted corrupt view as Condon did. The tape of the slapping and the
Registered: Nov 2004 beating has been widely circulated. I have had replies from many,
Location: Chicago area many people, including, surprisingly, a large number (more then a
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dozen) cops. Every single one has said things along the line of "I
would get fired in my department for that, I would get arrested for
that, " Etc, etc, Etc. But not here in McHenry County, IL. Here, the
swine and the courts do as they please. Stay tuned, I will keep you
posted. The IL State Police Officer ewho did the slapping, and
knocked the handcuffed man out is William Kroncke. Punch him into
Google to learn about him.

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10-24-2006 02:21 PM

liberranter quote:
Super Moderator
Originally posted by chitownbrian
Scott Crawford still doesn't get it. After having
been shown the door from Waukegan, IL PD,
and from Marengo, IL PD, he still has an idea
that he can somehow still be a cop.

As usual, he lies on his application, and as


usual, the departments he used to work for
don't say why he is no longer employed there,
too afraid of being sued I imagine.
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 5865

This seems to portend a trend in PDs all across the nation:


failure to vet applicants to departments. This news article
posting by FormerNYPDCop about the mobbed-up NYPD cop is
just one example:

http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...?threadid=16713

This one about the Plainfield, PA cop who lied on his app about
being a New Jersey cop is another:

http://www.copwatch.net/forums/show...?threadid=16653

While I think fear of lawsuits is definitely a factor in the failure


of PDs to give negative feedback about former cops, I believe
laziness and the "asscover" factor play an even bigger role.
After all, what segment of "the Thin Blue Line" wants to "rat" on
another?

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the pitiless force of a jackhammer: It is the guilty, collusive
silence of good police officers that makes possible the ever-
accumulating atrocities of the 'bad' ones." - William Norman
Grigg

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freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that
it values more, it will lose that too.
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GC Marciano It appears judge Joseph Condon is quite the corruption-


Copwatcher Extraordinaire supporting crook. Maybe it will take a healthy dose of
"alternative justice" to make him get his dick out of the cop's
mouths and do his job.

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A Damn Shame: Report Details Massive Abuse of Black Men


by Chicago Police
Chicago Defender, News Report,
Mema Ayi, Jul 20, 2006

http://news.newamericamedia.org/new...b740c9ee3cd4972

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It is unlikely any indictments will follow Wednesday's release of
Location: Chicago, Illinois the long-awaited investigation into more than 180 allegations of
Posts: 9967 torture under former Chicago Police Lt. Jon Burge.

Despite the findings of abuse and wrongdoing, no one will be


charged because the statute of limitations has run out for many
of the crimes detailed in the 1,700-page report, special

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prosecutors Edward Egan and Robert Boyle said Wednesday.

"We have concluded that the statute of limitations would bar


any prosecution of any offenses our investigation has
disclosed," the special prosecutors said in the report.

"In three cases we could prove torture beyond a reasonable


doubt," Egan said.

In many other cases, Egan and Boyle believed the torture


allegations, but lacked sufficient evidence to prove the claims
beyond reasonable doubt.

In Illinois, felonies cannot be prosecuted more than three years


after the crime is committed.

Lawrence Kennon, a petitioning attorney for the alleged torture


victims told the Defender Wednesday that it is disappointing
that no indictments will follow the release of the document.

It is not a surprise, he added, that then-State's Attorney


Richard M. Daley or his assistant, now-State's Attorney Richard
Devine, were not indicted.

"Four years and $7 million and there's not enough evidence to


prosecute anybody? That's what I'm calling a cover-up because
of political clout," Kennon said.

Boyle said the special prosecutors too were disappointed that


there was no further recourse.

"It isn't that nothing can be done, because when we got this
case, nothing had been done," Boyle said. "It certainly put
issues on the table that we have no power to deal with."

Kennon said he hopes for federal indictments, but Boyle said a


copy of his report was delivered to the U.S. Attorney's office,
which twice before concluded it could not proceed.

But Kennon said he and the other petitioning attorneys will


pursue federal charges of obstruction of justice, conspiracy and
perjury.

Burge and a "midnight crew" of about a dozen officers at Areas


2 and 3 Violent Crimes division allegedly tortured more than
180 men into confessions between the early 1970s and the
early 1990s.

None of the officers are currently Chicago Police officers. Burge


was fired from the Chicago Police Department in 1991 and lives
in Florida on a taxpayer-funded pension.

Egan and Boyle began the investigation with 64 allegations, but


the number of men with credible cases of police torture
ballooned to nearly 200 cases over the course of the

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investigation.

Burge's torture techniques included electronic shock to the


genitals and other body parts, as well as Russian roulette.
Those forms, however, were less common than the fists, feet
and telephone books most often used to illicit confessions, Boyle
said.

The investigation found the Chicago Police Department's Office


of Professional Standards and county prosecutors mishandled
brutality complaints.

Egan and Boyle blame former Police Supt. Richard Brzeczek and
former assistant State's Attorney William Kunkle for not
properly investigating the claims of torture by Andrew Wilson
before the statute of limitations ran out.

Wilson, who is serving a life sentence for the murder of two


police officers, was sentenced to death in 1983.

In 1987, the Illinois Supreme Court reversed the death


sentence on the grounds that his confession should have been
suppressed because prosecutors failed to explain adequately
how Wilson suffered certain injuries while in police custody.

Wilson said Burge, who was one of the arresting officers, was
not in the room at Area 2 where he was beaten by several
officers who began kicking, slapping and hitting with their fists
after his February 1982 arrest for the murders. Detectives then
put a plastic bag over his head and burned him on the arm with
a cigarette.

Wilson said another officer used electric shocks on his nostril


and ear.

After the initial interrogation, Wilson said told Assistant State's


Attorney Lawrence Hyman that he was being mistreated.

Hyman - the only former assistant state's attorney to refuse to


be interviewed by the special prosecutors - allegedly told
officers to remove Wilson. Detectives then took Wilson into a
room where he received electric shocks to the genitals.

He agreed to make a statement to keep from being shocked


again.

After making oral and written confessions to Hyman, Wilson was


taken to the lockup at 11th and State Streets by uniformed
officers. However, personnel refused to accept him because of
his condition.

A Cook County Jail physician later examined Wilson and detailed


his injuries in a letter to Brzeczek and called for a thorough
investigation of "alleged brutality."

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Days later, Brzeczek sent a letter to Daley asking for direction


in the investigation of the brutality claim.

"I have publicly stated that we will scrupulously investigate


every allegation of police misconduct brought to our attention.
However…I do not want to jeopardize the prosecution's case in
any way," Brzeczek's 1982 letter read.

Wilson filed a civil right suit naming Brzeczek, Burge, the City of
Chicago and other police officers. The first trial ended in a hung
jury, a second jury found Wilson's constitutional rights had been
violated but exonerated all of the police officers.

"The superintendent of police was convinced (Wilson) was


abused, yet he did nothing about it," Boyle said. "He failed to
live up to his sworn duty."

The Chicago Police OPS file on Wilson's complaint showed no


police officers were interviewed, Boyle said.

"The superintendent did not conduct a meaningful investigation.


If Brzeczek had done his duty, we wouldn't be here today,"
Boyle said.

Brzeczek defended himself Wednesday.


"They can blame me for whatever they want to blame me for,"
he said. "I know what I did was correct. It was not dereliction of
duty."
Kunkle, now a Cook County circuit court judge, took control of
the investigation of Wilson's claim procedurally and unilaterally,
but should have shared the information with his superiors,
Boyle said.

"He did not talk to people about it and that's the problem,"
Boyle said.

Kunkle, who represented Burge in two civil rights trials and his
case against the city for his 1991 firing, was not available for
comment, his staff said Wednesday.

Egan and Boyle said then-States Attorney Richard M. Daley ran


the office by delegating duties and was not at fault for mistakes
made by Kunkle.

Daley was not subpoenaed, but special prosecutors took court-


recorded statements from the mayor under oath. Daley's
statement is not in the report.

"We didn't deem it would have made any difference," Boyle said.

In a statement to special prosecutors, Daley said he was aware


of the letter detailing Wilson's injuries and transferred the
investigation to Kunkle, Boyle said.

"Daley thought all procedures were properly followed," Doyle

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said.

The Daley administration had no immediate comment.

Former Mayor Jane Byrne, who appointed Brzeczek, State's


Attorney Richard Devine and former State's Attorney Jack
O'Malley were also not subpoenaed.

Copies of the report will be available at the offices of the clerk


of the circuit court of Cook County criminal courts building at
26th Street and California Avenue.

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Mack I think this needs to be added to the Copwatch Reforms:


Assistant Moderator
specially-extended statute of limitations applicable to sworn
government employees accused of committing crimes.

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Bloomington Police Officer Arrested


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A Bloomington police officer is on paid administrative re-assignment
for allegedly trying to break into a home.

Sgt. Jeff Pelo is accused of trying to break into a Bloomington


residence over the weekend.

Pelo is a 17-year veteran of the Bloomington Police Department.

Bloomington police said it's uncomfortable to be investigating one


of their own.

"It's a sad situation when you have to arrest one of your own, but

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like you said, 'Nobody is above the law,' Bloomington Police


Department's Dave White said. "If in fact Sgt. Pelo broke the law
and has been charged, he'll go through court system like anybody
else would."

Pelo's bond was set at $50,000.

As of Tuesday afternoon, he was still in the McLean County jail.

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Originally posted by Rylan


Bloomington police said it's uncomfortable to be
investigating one of their own.

Which is why cops never seriously investigate other cops, EVER.

"It's a sad situation when you have to arrest one of your


own, but like you said, 'Nobody is above the law,'
Bloomington Police Department's Dave White said. "If in
Registered: Jun 2005 fact Sgt. Pelo broke the law and has been charged, he'll
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Where he'll be treated with kid gloves by the judge and
prosecutor (who will run roughshod over the pool of potential
jurors during voire-dire to insure a cop-friendly jury) and
ultimately exonerated by a hand-picked jury.

As of Tuesday afternoon, he was still in the McLean


County jail.

What's good for your average citizen-suspect is good for your


average cop-perp too.

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A grand jury has indicted a Bloomington police sergeant on stalking
and attempted residential burglary charges.

Jeff Pelo, a 17-year police veteran, is accused of using information


from the police department to stalk a woman and later trying to
break into her house.

Pelo said he was looking at homes for his mother-in-law and wasn't
trying to break into the house.

His attorney said he is innocent of all charges.

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liberranter Re: Bloomington Police Officer Indicted


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quote:

Originally posted by Rylan


Pelo said he was looking at homes for his
mother-in-law and wasn't trying to break into
the house.

Registered: Jun 2005


Location: Tucson, AZ Which might work as an excuse only if said house was actually
Posts: 5865 for sale. Otherwise, this clown is just another lying thugscum
cop making a pathetic attempt to save his ass from the
punishment he so obviously deserves.

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quote:

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Jeff Pelo, a 17-year police veteran, is accused of
using information from the police department to
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Sounds like another case of database abuse.

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Copwatcher Extraordinaire death:

Chicago Settles Police Response Lawsuit For $4.2 Million


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(CBS) CHICAGO The Chicago City Council today approved a


$4.2 million settlement for a lawsuit that alleged police officers
took too long to respond to 911 calls from a woman minutes
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Ronyale White died while waiting for police to arrive.

As CBS 2's Jim Williams reports, there's proof officers took

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their time in getting to the home just a couple of miles


from their station.

The lawsuit alleged that officers did not arrive until about 15
minutes after the first officers were dispatched to the White's
home on the city's South Side four years ago.

The lawsuit says the first two officers should have arrived in
just a few minutes and had they done so they would have got
there before the 31-year-old mother of three was killed.

Lawyers for White's family say two Chicago police officers were
simply negligent.

"In a domestic violence situation where there's been protective


order, they have a duty to respond immediately and not when
they damn well please," said attorney James Montgomery.

White's order of protection did not prevent her estranged


husband from showing up at her South Side home in May 2002.

White called 911 four times that night. After the first call, two
police officers accepted the assignment, but did not rush to her
home.

"One of the officers made a personal call to a family member for


a full minute and spent two minutes retrieving voice mail
messages on his cell phone when he should have been
responding this call," Montgomery said.

Eleven minutes later, there was still no police response. White


made one last desperate call to 911, which was heard on a tape
compiled by the plaintiff's attorneys.

On the tape, White can be heard asking, "Where are you?" and
saying her "husband has a gun." After her last scream, there is
only silence.

"When you compare that to her first call, where she's somewhat
calm, she's assuming they're going to be there. She's
counting on them to be there. By the fourth call, she realizes
death is probably just a few seconds away," attorney Kathleen
Zellner said.

Police finally arrived at White's home 15 minutes after


her first call. By then, she had been shot to death.

The City of Chicago agreed to settle a lawsuit for $4.2 million.

"As we sit here today, we know that Ronyale White did not die
in vain," Zellner said.

The city fought the lawsuit that alleged the delay


constituted a violation of the state's Domestic Violence
Act, saying police officers could not be sued under the act.

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But in April the state supreme court ruled officers could be sued
under the act and that led the way to the city's settlement.

Most of the $4.2 million will go to White's three children.

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quote:

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she's assuming they're going to be there.
She's counting on them to be there.

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Location: Chicago, Illinois Relying on the police to protect her was the biggest (and last)
Posts: 9967 mistake of her life.

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liberranter From the reputation of the CPD, it's a wonder the cops didn't
Super Moderator join in with the estranged husband in finishing the woman off.

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Mack This is great!


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No doubt this is another instance where the cops are not in favor of
law-and-order. Let's see them support this decision with their usual
mantra of "if you'd just follow the law, you wouldn't get in trouble".

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liberranter This is another case that would make a great test of the "hold
Super Moderator them personally liable" theory. That is, let the two porkos
involved fork up the 4.2M in damages out of their own pockets/
property/future earnings.

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By the time testimony in the three-week trial was over and the case
was given to the jury, it was her word against a half-dozen police
officers.

Suzanne Barth, Mokena's first female cop, claimed she was


subjected to a ceaseless stream of degrading comments by her
colleagues. Despite days of testimony from officers who called
Barth a liar, the jury in the federal trial quickly sided with her --
declaring she was the victim of sexual harassment and gender
discrimination. They awarded her nearly $2 million.

Barth, a 30-year-old native of Chicago's West Lawn neighborhood

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who now lives in the southwest suburbs, joined the department in


1998. She was warned as early as her days at the police academy
that Mokena had never had a female officer and that she was likely
in store for a rough time.

"The longer I was there," she said last week, "the more I realized
that was true."

After several years, with Barth's complaints about incidents of


repeated sexual taunting, fellow cops allegedly refused to provide
backup on calls; one sergeant allegedly said he couldn't back her up
on a call because he was eating.

She quit in 2002, citing concerns for her own safety.

Not long afterward she filed the federal lawsuit naming the village
and three veteran police sergeants.

The village's lawyers have pledged to fight the monetary verdict in


a series of court filings that will stretch through the summer. After
that, they may turn to appellate courts.

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This female officer finally realized that cops are a bunch of liars and
can not be trusted for shi t.

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Mack I sure don't feel sorry for her, and I'm pretty much sickened that
Assistant Moderator she got such an exorbitant sum.

No doubt if she hadn't encountered any sexism, she'd be just as big


an asshole as all the rest of the cops.

In my experience, female cops are often worse than male cops-


there's many militant bull-dyke feminists who hate men and relish
the opportunity to ball-bust; others, in an effort to prove that they
Registered: Jul 2003 "fit in", feel compelled to over-compensate and act like even bigger
Location: assholes than their compatriots; still others endanger the public by
Posts: 5215 giving their male coworkers an exuse to show off by roughing up
the suspect.

I'd bet two million dollars that this bitch is indeed a bitch, only now
she's a lazy bitch.

How many normal women want to be cops?

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Rylan I posed this question in a separate thread: Has anyone noticed a


Senior Member pattern of female officer involvement in police shootings?

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chitownbrian Mack asks: "How many normal women want to be cops?"


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I'll add to the question: How many normal men OR women want to
Registered: Nov 2004 be cops? I'd venture to say just about none. The key word there is
Location: Chicago area NORMAL.
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One good thing about this lawsuit verdict, it shows that even when
cops lie, some juries can see right through their lies and b.s. It's
good to see a PD get hammered because the tough guy cops didn't
want to work with a female. They hate to see that a 100 lb woman
can do the same job as them. That concept pretty much nueters
them, and deflates their lil' man ego.

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liberranter The saddest thing about this is that the two million-dollar
Super Moderator judgment isn't going to hurt the Mokena PD or the asshole
copscum at fault; it's the taxpaying citizens of the town of
Mokena who are going to get screwed royally.

It's bad enough that these unfortunate people, like citizens in


every other county and town in America, have to suffer the
behavior of the uniformed thugscum forced on them for their
own "protection." Now they have to open their wallets to mop
up the mess that same said thugscum have made outside the
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How many normal men OR women want to be
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Someone told me that female firemen aren't required to be able to


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them by their feet instead. (Admittedly I've never researched this
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In any event, you gotta admit that few women could carry an
average guy for any distance at all. Carrying people seems to be a
capability that might be handy for a fireman to have.

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FAIRFIELD, Ill. - Barely a week before the Illinois primary election,


Wayne County Sheriff Everett "Sonny" McCulley struck a deal with
the special prosecutor and avoided going to trial on two felony
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Circuit Judge David Frankland accepted McCulley's guilty plea to a


petty offense of refusing to aid an officer, and fined him $500. Last
summer, a Wayne County grand jury indicted McCulley, his chief
deputy, Dave Zola, and Deputy Mark Tipps on felony charges of
conspiracy to obstruct justice and official misconduct.

The charges date to an alleged gunplay incident on Dec. 1, 2004, in


which Tipps is accused of firing a shot into the ground next to the
head of drug suspect Dennis O. Boyd after he had surrendered. The
state alleged the three conspired to obstruct a state police
investigation into the incident to keep Tipps from being prosecuted.
Tipps subsequently was indicted on a separate charge of
aggravated discharge of a firearm - a much more serious Class 1
felony.

In Monday's court appearance, McCulley admitted he refused to


cooperate with Illinois State Police detective Rick White, who had
been assigned to look into the allegations, and had prevented two
other individuals from cooperating with White's investigation.

Special Prosecutor Ray Vaughn of Olney, Ill., asked the judge to


fine McCulley the maximum, $1,000. McCulley's attorney argued for
a reduced fine, stating McCulley is "a law-abiding resident of Wayne
County who is fighting crime every day." In the end, the judge fined
him $500.

The felony cases against Zola and Tipps are pending. Vaughn said
both cases are set for trial.

McCulley, a Democrat, is completing his first term in office. He


faces a primary challenge from retired Illinois State trooper Harry
Sutton in the Tuesday's election.

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How can they even say this guy fights crime every day when he is
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CHICAGO (AP) -- The last two inmates who remained missing after
six escaped from the Cook County Jail surrendered early Monday at
the end of a long siege by a SWAT team and intermittent talks with
police negotiators.

Eric Bernard, 22, of Chicago, is charged with armed robbery;

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Tyrone Everhart, 28, of Markham, is charged with aggravated


kidnapping and attempting to escape from the Markham courthouse.

Before the two were brought out, reporters on the scene saw
officers lead a woman in handcuffs from the besieged building. The
last of the five children who had been in the apartment when the
standoff began was led to safety.

Francisco Romero, 23, who is charged with murder, also was in the
apartment, but he surrendered late Sunday and brought two young
children out with him.

Two other inmates were captured Sunday about 7 miles from the
jail in Oak Park. Another inmate was arrested Sunday evening, said
Chicago police spokeswoman JoAnn Taylor.

The men escaped late Saturday from a special unit at Cook County
Jail for inmates with disciplinary problems. One guard was on duty
instead of two because of staffing shortages, said county Sheriff's
Department spokesman Bill Cunningham.

One inmate threw hot water from a shower on the guard and held
him at bay with a homemade knife, then handcuffed the guard and
put on his uniform, officials said.

That inmate was caught after opening doors to let the other six
inmates out. They got over a barbed wire fence and onto the
streets.

It was the second jail break since Friday. An inmate facing armed
robbery charges broke out Friday by apparently slipping into a
laundry truck, but he was arrested Saturday at a suburban motel,
authorities said.

© 2006 The Associated Press.

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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- A Cook County Jail guard told
investigators he helped six inmates escape over the
weekend in an attempt to influence the election for sheriff,
newspapers reported Tuesday.

The guard said he was trying to embarrass outgoing county Sheriff


Michael Sheahan and his chief of staff, Tom Dart, who is running for
sheriff, The Chicago Sun-Times and Chicago Tribune reported, citing
unidentified law enforcement sources.

Representatives for the sheriff's office, which controls the jail, did
not immediately return calls Tuesday from The Associated Press.

No charges had been filed in the jailbreak as of midday Tuesday. All


six inmates have been captured.

Also Tuesday, the Police Department said its officers received a tip
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Authorities got word that someone involved in that case "had


knowledge ... of what was going to occur," police spokeswoman
Monique Bond said. Officers followed proper procedure and reported
the tip to sheriff's office, she said.

She would not elaborate, and the sheriff's office did not return calls.

The guard initially said he had been overpowered by the inmates at


the understaffed jail. But according to the reports, he changed his
story and said he was trying to boost the campaign of Richard
Remus, who is seeking for the Democratic nomination for sheriff.

Remus dismissed that theory Tuesday.

"An officer is going to sacrifice his life or family for political gain for
somebody else? It's beyond my understanding of human nature -- I
can't see it," Remus said. "This sounds like Cook County politics at
its finest."

Remus said he once was the guard's supervisor at the jail but is not
the man's friend.

The jailbreak was the third at the Cook County Jail in the past 10
months. No inmates had escaped from there in the previous decade.

It was at least the second time in recent months that the question
of staff complicity has been raised.

During the summer, an inmate donned a guard's uniform, walked


out of jail and allegedly went on a bank-robbing spree. He later
turned himself in to authorities in Ohio, saying he had escaped with
the help of a guard he had bribed. The sheriff's department is
investigating that claim.

Last month, a jail guard was convicted of trying to smuggle a gun


into the jail in 2003.

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CHICAGO -- A Cook County Jail guard posted bond Wednesday


night and was released from jail after he was charged with
coordinating a jail break that led to six inmates escaping from the
Cook County Jail Saturday.

Darin Gater, 36, of Chicago, posted $500,000 bond.

He faces several charges including aggravated battery of a


correctional officer, aggravated arson, escape and official
misconduct. He also faces charges of possession of contraband -- a
shank, or homemade knife -- in a penal institution and bringing
contraband -- a cell phone -- into a penal institution.

"I'm innocent," Gater told reporters as he left the jail. "I just want
to get home to my family. I'm tired, I'm hungry and that's it, that's
all I want to say right now."

But officials say Gater admitted to playing a part in the jail break.

Cook County Sheriff Michael Sheahan said Gater failed a lie detector
test and wrote a statement confessing to coordinating the jail break
to give the current administration a black eye, and show support for
Democratic sheriff's candidate Richard Remus.

"He made the statement on his own free will, signed each page,"
Sheahan said.

Sheahan said Gater was to be paid $50,000 for coordinating the jail
break, and even gave a cell phone to the inmates so they could call
family members. All of the escaped inmates were later captured.

Gater's attorney, Tommy Brewer, said any confession Gater may


have made was coerced.

"Anything to stop the questioning. They denied him sleep, not


allowed to eat, they wouldn't let him make phone calls," Brewer
said.

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Prosecutors said Gater aided in the escape by allowing an inmate to


take a shower between 11:30 p.m. and midnight, long after the
time set aside for inmate showers. Prosecutors alleged Gater then
freed the inmate from his shackles, used his own handcuffs on
himself and left his keys and radio in a place where the inmate
could get them.

Prosecutors also alleged Gater took his uniform, boots and ID off
and gave them to the inmates.

As a result, Knibbs said, the inmates were able to unlock cell doors,
and the inmate who donned Gater's uniform was able to trick
another guard into opening a doorway out of the tier. Other
inmates, who set a mattress afire, charged out with shanks, a
wooden cane and chains, and at least two guards of the three in the
area were battered, he said.

Gater originally claimed he was overpowered when six inmates


bolted from the jail.

Two others were also charged in connection with the weekend


jailbreak, cousins of escapee Francisco Romero. Jose Romero and
Anna Romero were each charged with four counts of aiding and
abetting. Jose Romero's bond was set at $250,000 and Anna
Romero's at $350,000, Jensen said.

NBC5's Anna Davlantes reported that Chicago police received


advanced warning of the escape. That information was then relayed
to Cook County Jail authorities. The internal investigation into the
jailbreak would examine what happened with that information.

Six Cook County correctional officers were also suspended with pay
in the connection with last weekend's jailbreak.

Gater's next court date is March 8.

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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- A guard accused of helping six inmates
escape from the Cook County Jail over the weekend handcuffed
himself and gave the prisoners his uniform and boots, prosecutors
alleged.

Darin Gater, 36, appeared in court by video but did not enter a plea
during a hearing Wednesday. He was released Wednesday night on
$500,000 bond.

"I'm innocent," Gater told reporters as he left the jail. "I just want
to get home to my family. I'm tired, I'm hungry and that's it, that's
all I want to say right now."

Prosecutors said Gater gave a handwritten statement detailing his


involvement in the escape. Outside the courtroom, Gater's
attorneys said he would fight the charges.

"We've heard allegations of an admission by Mr. Gater. Our stance


right now is that any admission he allegedly made was coerced,"
attorney Steven Watkins said. "We're going to attack it, and we
fully expect to be acquitted of all the charges."

Co-counsel Tommy Brewer called Gater "a fall guy" for safety and
morale problems at the jail.

The detainees escaped around midnight Saturday. Authorities


caught the last of them Monday.

Sheriff's spokesman Bill Cunningham on Wednesday confirmed


reports that Gater, after initially saying he was overpowered by the
inmates, later allegedly said he aided the escape to influence the
upcoming sheriff's election by embarrassing outgoing Cook County
Sheriff Michael Sheahan.

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Gater said he wanted to aid the candidacy of Richard Remus, who is


running in the Democratic primary, Cunningham said. Remus is not
alleged to have known anything about an escape plot. He has
questioned why a corrections officer would risk his job to help a
political candidate.

Prosecutor Jim Knibbs did not discuss Gater's alleged motive during
the bond hearing and would not answer questions about it outside
the courtroom.

Gater was charged with aggravated battery of a correctional officer,


aggravated arson, escape and official misconduct. He also faces
charges of possession of contraband -- a shank, or homemade knife
-- in a penal institution, and of bringing contraband -- a cell phone
-- into a penal institution.

Five other jail officers have been suspended with pay while the
county's investigation into the jailbreak continues. Prosecutors
would not say if more charges were possible.

Gater, a former Marine who worked in the sheriff's department for


11 years, was assigned to guard high-risk prisoners, "some of the
worst of the worst," Knibbs said. He was the only guard monitoring
inmates Saturday night in the Abnormal Behavior Observation tier,
Knibbs said.

Prosecutors said Gater aided in the escape by allowing an inmate to


take a shower between 11:30 p.m. and midnight, long after the
time set aside for inmate showers.

Gater initially said the inmate threw hot soapy water on him and
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Location: Pam Louwagie, Star Tribune
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June 5, 2004

CHICAGO -- Minnesota Attorney General Mike Hatch's daughters


stood before a judge for the first time in their assault case Friday
morning, with new attorneys representing them. Two well-known
Chicago lawyers were hired for their defense.

Thomas Breen, who has worked in prominent death-row and other


criminal cases, was retained Thursday to represent Elizabeth Bell

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Hatch, 22. Defense attorney Cindy Giacchetti, a former assistant U.


S. attorney, is representing 21-year-old Anne Hatch. The sisters are
facing charges stemming from a March altercation with police
outside a Chicago nightclub.

The attorneys asked to have the case moved to a different


courthouse capable of housing a jury in the event that they seek a
jury trial, Breen said. The request for a new courthouse was
granted.

Dressed neatly in business attire, the sisters walked into the


courthouse with another sister and two friends for the 9 a.m.
appearance. Throngs of media were camped outside the Cook
County Circuit Court branch.

When asked for comment about their case after the hearing,
Elizabeth Hatch said, "No, thank you." Anne Hatch also declined to
comment.

The court appearance left no indication that the case was near a
resolution. A former attorney for the women had said the sisters
hoped to resolve the case before going to court. Former Illinois
Attorney General Tyrone Fahner, who spoke on behalf of the
women in March, said then that the two were not bad people and
that "this thing needs to be put to bed."

The two sisters made headlines in Chicago and Minnesota after a


scuffle with police outside the Crobar, a club where they had been
celebrating Anne Hatch's birthday.

Police allege that after the two were removed from the club,
Elizabeth slapped an officer with an open hand and knocked his
glasses off. Police said Anne wrestled with another officer and
scratched his face and later broke a police car window.

Each woman faces misdemeanor counts of resisting a peace officer,


simple battery and criminal damage to property or a vehicle.

Mike Hatch said shortly after the incident that his daughters were
devastated and wanted to be accountable for their mistakes but
that they denied having assaulted the officers. The women were
treated at a Chicago hospital for injuries they received, which
included black eyes, cuts and bruises and a fractured wrist, a Hatch
spokesperson has said.

Prosecutors said the request to change courthouses was common.


Judge Marvin Luckman agreed to move the case and scheduled
their next hearing for June 25.

Chicago attorney Joe Duffy, who once served as an independent


investigator for the city of Minneapolis, called Breen and Giacchetti
"both terrific lawyers" who are respected in the courtroom.

Pam Louwagie is at plouwagie@startribune.com

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Two daughters of Minnesota Attorney General Mike Hatch assaulted
police and broke a squad car window after a struggle at a Chicago
dance club early Saturday, Chicago police said.

Elizabeth Bell Hatch, 22, and Anne Hatch, 21, are scheduled to
appear May 5 in Cook County Court.

They are charged with misdemeanor assault, resisting arrest and


criminal damage to property, said police spokeswoman Jo Ann
Taylor.

The women were treated Saturday afternoon at Thorek Hospital in


Chicago for injuries they received after allegedly scratching and
hitting officers during their arrest. Police were called to the
nightclub to evict the women after they got into a loud quarrel with
a man about 3 a.m.

Their injuries appeared to include black eyes, a fractured wrist and


cuts and bruises to the face, arms, knees and thighs, said Leslie
Sandberg, a spokeswoman for Mike Hatch.

An emergency room nurse said Elizabeth and Anne declined to


comment. They were accompanied to the hospital by their mother,
Patricia, and were released Saturday evening.

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They went to the hospital after being released from jail on their own
recognizance about 2 p.m. Saturday. Mike Hatch is looking for more
information about the time that elapsed between their arrest and
their release and treatment. "He's troubled by that," Sandberg said.

An "officers' professional responsibility group" has taken statements


from the pair and photographed them, Sandberg said.

The women and their mother and several of Anne's friends were at
the trendy Crobar club on Chicago's Near North Side celebrating
Anne's 21st birthday, which was Friday. Anne is a communications
major at DePaul University in Chicago, and Elizabeth is majoring in
criminal justice at Gustavus Adolphus College in St. Peter, Minn.

Patricia Hatch left Crobar about 1 a.m., but Elizabeth and Anne
remained at the late-night hot spot that features nationally known
DJ acts. Former Chicago Bulls player and NBA bad boy Dennis
Rodman used to be a regular.

Taylor, the police spokeswoman, said that Elizabeth and Anne were
intoxicated and that about 3 a.m., a club guard asked them to
leave because "they were causing a disturbance, yelling and
screaming" at a male patron. Police arrived shortly after the club
called them.

Officers told the women that "they were no longer welcome at the
club and needed to leave," Taylor said. The women refused, and a
verbal and physical skirmish broke out between them and police,
she said. Elizabeth charged an officer, raised her hands and struck
him in the face, knocking off his glasses, Taylor said. Anne
struggled with another officer and scratched his face, Taylor added.

The women were arrested and taken to the 18th District Police
Station. On the way, Anne used her feet to shatter a rear window of
the squad car, Taylor said.

In a statement Saturday afternoon, their father, the DFL's only


statewide elected official, acknowledged that his daughters were
intoxicated and said that they were injured during the exchange
with the two police officers who arrested them. Calls to the club
were not returned late Saturday.

The writers are at: tharlow@startribune.com and


pdoyle@startribune.com

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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June 8, 2005

CHICAGO -- The trial of Minnesota Attorney General Mike Hatch's


daughters Anne and Elizabeth began in a Cook County courtroom
today with opening statements from the prosecution and defense.

Hatch himself was excluded from the courtroom because he may be


called as a witness in the case.

Anne Hatch, 22, and Elizabeth Hatch, 23, were arrested in March
2004, after a wee-hours scuffle with police outside the Crobar club
on Chicago's Near North Side where they had been celebrating
Anne Hatch's birthday. The scuffle began after the women were
removed from the club. They are charged with misdemeanors.

''It was as simple as leave, go home, you’re not welcome here,''


Cook County Assistant State’s Attorney Lindsay Malitz told the court.

More than a dozen journalists are covering the trial, which is being
heard only by a judge after the Hatches waived their right to a jury
trial.

Malitz said the Hatch sisters were ''celebrating by drinking, then


drank some more. In the early morning hours, they lost control.''

She said the women, ''wanted to be sure everyone there knew who
they were -- the daughters of the attorney general of Minnesota,
the highest law enforcement officer in the state.''

Defense attorney Tom Breen, who represents Elizabeth Hatch, said


the allegations against them, ''are after the fact allegations. They
were, quite simply, concocted to cover the backsides of certain
people.''

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Breen said the daughters ''have taken a beating by these


allegations.''

Lawyer Cynthia Giacchetti, representing Ann Hatch, said her client


''got arrested for nothing at first. Were they scared? Yeah. We’re
they excited? Yeah. Did they yell? Yeah. No one was on their best
behavior that morning, but crimes were not committed.''

After opening statements, prosecutors began their case, bringing in


witnesses who were employees of the bar to recount the night's
events.

Police allege that after the two were removed from the club,
Elizabeth Hatch slapped an officer with an open hand and knocked
his glasses off. Police said Anne Hatch wrestled with another officer,
scratched his face and later broke a window in a police car.

Each woman faces misdemeanor counts of resisting a peace officer,


simple battery and criminal damage to property or a vehicle.

The women were treated at a Chicago hospital for injuries they


received, which included black eyes, cuts and bruises and a
fractured wrist, a Hatch spokesperson has said. Mike Hatch said
after the incident that his daughters were devastated and wanted to
be accountable for their mistakes but that they denied having
assaulted the officers.

The Hatches had planned to pursue a complaint of excessive force


by the arresting officers but dropped it a few days after the incident.

Video recorded at the time of the scuffle will be entered into


evidence, Breen said during a court appearance Tuesday. Mike
Hatch initially hoped the tape would help exonerate his daughters,
but it shows that most of their contact with officers occurred
outside the range of the club's 16 security cameras.

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June 9, 2005

CHICAGO -- A tape recording of Elizabeth Hatch's reedy, clearly


terrified voice echoed through a tiny courtroom Wednesday
morning: "I didn't do anything! What did I do to you? I'm asking
you why are you arresting me? WHY ARE YOU ARRESTING ME?"

The trial now underway in Cook County Misdemeanor Court will


determine the answers to those questions, captured by a stranger
on his cell phone about 3 a.m. on March 27, 2004, when Elizabeth
Hatch and her sister, Anne, were arrested and charged with three
misdemeanors each after scuffling with police outside a trendy
nightclub on Chicago's Near North Side.

The Cook County prosecutor and the Hatches' defense attorneys


painted contradictory, broad outlines of their approaches to the
case Wednesday during the opening day of the trial, which is being
held before a judge, rather than a jury.

Although the "Hatch girls," as they have been dubbed, have waived
their right to a jury trial, the jury box was filled -- by a dozen
journalists drawn by the novelty of a case in a court that almost
never conducts full-blown trials.

Another reason for the intense media attention: The defendants'


father is Minnesota Attorney General Mike Hatch, one of the state's
most prominent DFLers and a presumptive candidate for governor
next year. Hatch was there, but stayed in the hall outside the
courtroom all day Wednesday because he may be called as a
witness.

Boiled to its essence, the trial appears likely to lay out these
scenarios, based on the testimony of the first four prosecution
witnesses, all employees of the Crobar Club, where the incident
occurred:

The Hatches were loud, obnoxious, arrogant, obviously drunken


patrons of a club that had just shown them the door. They then
profanely and repeatedly attacked the police officers who politely
told them to call it a night.

Or: They had been kicked out of a club on a cold winter night,
without their coats or purses, manhandled by the police for no

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discernible reason and then, when their high media profiles were
discovered, vilified from behind the thin blue line of officer solidarity
erected when police are accused of misconduct.

Right after the arrests, the Hatches' mother filed a complaint


against the arresting officers, alleging mistreatment, which she
later dropped.

Anne Hatch, 22, and Elizabeth Hatch, 23, each face misdemeanor
charges of resisting a peace officer, simple battery and criminal
damage to property or a vehicle.

On Wednesday, they spent the day in court alternately scribbling on


legal pads and tightly grasping each other's hand after enduring the
gantlet of TV cameras that greeted them when they arrived at the
courthouse.

Four prosecution witnesses, all employees of the Crobar Club,


created a portrait of screaming, foul-mouthed, imperious young
women who flaunted their relationship with their famous father.

"Do you know who I am?" security guard Steve Torres testified that
Elizabeth Hatch demanded of him. "No, I don't," he said. "You don't
know who I am -- my dad is the state's attorney of Minnesota."

He hustled her outside the club, where retired Chicago police officer
and current Crobar guard Don Farrell watched as, he said, both
Hatches lit into two passing Chicago officers he had waved over.

"These were two women who were obviously drunk and I knew they
were getting out of hand," he said. "I called the squad over because
if they were the attorney general's daughters, I figured they'd
respect law enforcement."

Cook County Assistant State's Attorney Lindsay Malitz said the


Hatch sisters were "celebrating by drinking, then drank some more.
In the early morning hours, they lost control."

Defense attorney Tom Breen, who represents Elizabeth Hatch, said


the allegations "were, quite simply, concocted to cover the
backsides of certain people."

Lawyer Cynthia Giacchetti, representing Anne Hatch, said her client


"got arrested for nothing at first. Were they scared? Yeah. We're
they excited? Yeah. Did they yell? Yeah. No one was on their best
behavior that morning, but crimes were not committed."

Bob von Sternberg is at vonste@startribune.com

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Paraphrasing Maureen Kanka: "You got to be able to tell the children who the bad
guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
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June 10, 2005

CHICAGO -- After almost two days of listening as their actions and


reputations were shredded by prosecutors, the Hatch sisters began
their defense Thursday in their high-profile misdemeanor trial.

Not surprisingly, their version of what unfolded outside a Chicago


nightclub just before 3 a.m. on March 27, 2004, differs from what
six prosecution witnesses laid out earlier this week.

Most pointedly, Elizabeth Hatch, 23, said she never slapped Chicago
police officer Jeffrey Phillips, the alleged action that led to the arrest
of Hatch and her sister, Anne, 22, and a subsequent media
firestorm.

Elizabeth Hatch admitted to being "buzzed" after drinking at least


five alcoholic drinks that night and said she engaged in what her
attorney called "really foul language," but she vehemently
disagreed with the prosecution's portrayal of two obnoxious, drunk
women who arrogantly challenged everyone from bar bouncers to
police officers.

The Hatches each face misdemeanor charges of resisting a peace


officer, simple battery and criminal damage to property.

Such a case would hardly merit more than a line in a Chicago

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newspaper's police blotter were it not that the women are the
daughters of Minnesota Attorney General Mike Hatch.

Chicago's news media seized on that from the first days of the case
and prosecutors have repeatedly introduced testimony from
witnesses who said the women invoked their father's name and
title, saying "Don't you know who I am?"

No such thing occurred outside the trendy Crobar club on Chicago's


Near North Side, Elizabeth Hatch said Thursday. Neither sister
brought up her father's name and both later refused to give their
real identities to arresting officers because "I knew this would
happen and that the media would leap on it," Elizabeth Hatch said.
"I've been raised in a political family and I know how politics and
the media work."

For his part, Mike Hatch spent another day pacing the halls of the
fifth floor of the Cook County Misdemeanor Court building, waiting
to testify in his daughters' behalf.

Before Thursday morning's court session began, Hatch briefly broke


his silence about the case, saying, "I believe in the system. I
believe they'll be acquitted." Later, he added, "it's been a year from
hell."

The centerpiece of Thursday's testimony focused on Elizabeth


Hatch's forcible removal from the nightclub and her encounter with
Phillips.

Phillips testified that he and a partner were returning to their patrol


district after refueling their squad when they were hailed by a man
who said he was the Crobar's security manager.

The manager told Phillips that two women were causing a


disturbance "by pacing back and forth and screaming." When he
used his loudspeaker to tell them to head home he said the woman
he identified as Elizabeth Hatch replied "who the [expletive] are you
talking to?" and bolted across the street toward his cruiser.

He said she reached back with her right hand as if to hit him and he
tried to restrain her on the hood of the car. As he tried to handcuff
her, "she spun around and slapped me in the face ... knocking my
glasses off."

Crobar security officer Don Farrell, a retired Chicago cop, recalled


the slap as the "way a wife would slap her husband if she found out
he was cheating on her."

Elizabeth Hatch denied that that happened, saying a bouncer had


carried her across the street and that she was knocked to the
ground by an unknown assailant who tried to handcuff her.

She said she never touched Phillips and that "my knees were
knocked out from under me and I fell to the ground. I didn't know

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who this person was. He grabbed my arms behind my back when


my face was still smashed into the ground."

A cell phone call recorded on one of Hatch's friends' answering


machines captured part of the encounter.

"Don't I have any rights?" she asked.

"Not now, bitch," Phillips replied.

"You can't call me bitch -- I didn't do anything," she said.

Asked why he had referred to Hatch that way, Phillips said, "I'm
human -- I may be a police officer, but I'd just been struck in the
face and I was insulted."

Later during his testimony, he said when he and his fellow officer
"found out who they were, we knew this was going to be a headline
issue."

It remains so to this day.

Bob von Sternberg is at vonste@startribune.com

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guys are."

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"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
their people."

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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June 11, 2005

CHICAGO -- Anne and Elizabeth Hatch were acquitted Friday on all


counts in a low-level criminal case that placed them in the center
ring of a Chicago news media circus largely because their father is
Minnesota Attorney General Mike Hatch.

The verdict came after a three-day trial in Cook County


Misdemeanor Court, which normally deals with petty crimes
unnoticed by journalists. But dozens of journalists packed the tiny
fifth-floor courtroom for the case.

After reviewing evidence and the testimony from four prosecution


witnesses and the Hatch sisters, Judge Colleen Sheehan concluded
that the two sides presented versions of reality that differed "like
night and day." She decisively sided with the defense, demolishing
the prosecution's case by questioning the prosecution witnesses'
credibility and consistency.

The prosecution's contention that "intoxication and entitlement


caused the defendants to behave badly" simply didn't hold up,
Sheehan said shortly before 4 p.m. Friday.

The Hatches had been charged with simple battery, resisting arrest
and criminal damage to property after they allegedly fought with
police and damaged a squad car about 3 a.m. on March 27, 2004,
outside a nightclub on the Near North Side. If convicted, they could
have been sentenced to up to a year in jail and $2,500 in fines.

As the Hatches were kicked out of the Crobar nightclub, prosecution


witnesses said, the sisters had repeatedly invoked the fame and
political clout of their father, a claim Sheehan found wanting.

"It's striking that everyone [for the prosecution] testified that they
said their dad was the Minnesota attorney general, but the reports
filed at the time had zero information about that fact," she said.
Also, in a snippet of an audio recording captured by a cell phone as
Elizabeth Hatch was being arrested, she never mentioned her father
or indulged in the constant profanity attributed to her by
prosecution witnesses.

Mike Hatch, who accompanied his daughters to their trial all week,
declined to comment Friday, saying only, "This is their day." Earlier
this week, he described his family's experience as "a year of hell."

He embraced his daughters when Sheehan read her verdict. Both

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women burst into tears and hugged each other fiercely.

As she and her sister stood outside the courthouse afterward, Anne
Hatch said: "It's really nice to have our side of the story heard. And
I'm glad we had the patience to tell it."

Elizabeth Hatch said they "couldn't be happier about the verdict. We


feel great about it."

Asked about the attention drawn because of their father, Anne


Hatch said: "It happens with other political daughters, families. We
knew growing up that something like this could happen."

While their lawyers were speaking to reporters on the sidewalk


outside the courthouse, the women stood holding hands tightly as
they had throughout the trial, which began Wednesday. The sisters
called the city a great place. "I love Chicago," Anne Hatch said.

Legal battle

State's Attorney Richard Devine issued a statement afterward


calling it a "strange ruling."We accept the decision, but I am
disappointed and disagree with both the judge's reasoning and her
conclusion," Devine said.

The young prosecuting team, Assistant State's Attorneys Lindsay


Malitz and Jesse Opdycke, declined to comment. They were clearly
overmatched by the defense team of Tom Breen and Cynthia
Giachetti, who have been successful, high-profile criminal attorneys
for years .

Breen was withering in his closing argument. "The state in this case
has miserably, miserably failed to show Elizabeth Hatch and her
sister were guilty of anything," he said. "The state's allegations
have been incredible. The state's witnesses contradicted each
other."

In her ruling, Sheehan largely agreed.

Breen said the two officers who arrested the Hatches "trashed those
girls that night and trashed them in their reports."

Opdycke began his closing argument by saying, "This is not about


the attorney general of Minnesota, it's about two women who
committed crimes ... about out-of-control behavior by these two
defendants on our fair streets." Breen countered: "In an attempt to
dirty them up after the fact, the prosecution played that card,"
referring to their father.

Breen called the police "bullies," but Malitz said "these two were the
bullies that night. They were pissed off because they were kicked
out of the Crobar."

She said the eventual altercation began because "they drank and
then they drank some more." But Elizabeth Hatch testified she had

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only had five drinks over several hours, and Anne Hatch said she'd
had three. Sheehan said there was no credible evidence either
woman was drunk.

She said an audiotape of Elizabeth Hatch's arrest and a videotape


that captured the women's movements on the street outside the
club appeared to bolster that contention and, more generally,
corroborated their testimony.

Mike Matuschka, a Crobar partner, said he didn't understand the


verdict. "We did our job," he said. "We did everything right.
Everybody did everything right."

Sheehan found Anne Hatch not guilty of criminal damage to


property even though she said on the stand Friday morning that
she tried to kick out the window of a squad car after she was
handcuffed. Hatch said she was desperately trying to help her
sister, who was screaming that her arm was being broken by an
officer.

Asked how hard she kicked, Anne Hatch replied, "I'm a soccer
player. It was a good kick."

The Hatches' older sister, Katharine, was at the trial all week, and
their mother flew to Chicago Friday. The family plans to attend
Anne Hatch's graduation ceremony Sunday at DePaul University,
where she will receive a degree in communications.

Staff writer Pam Louwagie and the Associated Press contributed to


this report. Bob von Sternberg is at vonste@startribune.com

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June 12, 2005

Father's Day is coming up and Minnesota's Attorney General, Mike


Hatch, should get kisses on the forehead from his daughters,
Elizabeth and Anne.

He deserves the smooches.

The Hatch Sisters were acquitted Friday on charges that they


resisted arrest during a brawl outside a Chicago nightclub. Their
case received huge publicity in a city where attractive women who
can kick out the windows of squad cars are popular in the musical
"Chicago," but not in real life.

"We do not like Minnesota girls gone wild," wrote one Chicago
columnist. "They're young and beautiful with long straight hair and
expensive clothes. If anybody is going to accuse our police of
brutality, it's going to be us -- not some snotty-looking chicks with
perfect noses from Minnesota."

Hey. I think they have a crush on our daughters! Hands off our
Hatches, Chicago!

It is high time some of Minnesota's young people gave fits to


Chicago's cops. Turnabout is fair play. But I felt sorry for Papa
Hatch. His travails tugged at the heartstrings of any dad of a
daughter. Especially ones who can kick like mules.

Lesson No. 1: A wise father teaches a daughter to avoid any


bar where it is "Panty Night."

The Hatch-ettes are young women who admit to swearing like


stevedores. After they were tossed out of an establishment
delightfully called the Crobar, they got into a tussle with cops and
bouncers (one was known as "Tattooed Tony") and blistered the
paint off nearby light poles with their cursing.

I admire this in a young woman. It speaks well of her self-


confidence and upbringing. My daughter, who is the same age as
Elizabeth Hatch, had her school bus privileges suspended because
of foul language. She was only in kindergarten, and she merely
called her driver "Mr. Baloney Face." But it was a promising start. I
keep her framed suspension notice on my wall.

Lesson No. 2: When a daughter curses, a wise dad says, "I


don't know where she gets it."

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Elizabeth Hatch testified that the fracas began when she verbally
reprimanded a bar patron who grabbed the backside of a waitress
clad in pink panties (see Rule No. 1, above). Bar employees
testified she became unruly after being refused a cosmopolitan, a
pink-colored mix of vodka and cranberry juice popularized by the
TV series "Sex and the City."

Lesson No. 3: A wise dad discourages a girl's interest in


ponies, the color pink and rainbows. Make her play hockey.

The trouble in Chicago occurred on a night when Anne Hatch was


celebrating her 21st birthday by bending her elbow -- a practice
that has ended in tears or an urgent call for a mop and a pail for far
too many young people. Bar-hopping the minute a child becomes a
legal drinker is like giving a loaded gun to a toddler on the day he
can first say, "Bang!"

Lesson No. 4: Don't let her leave home without the number
of a reliable attorney general or bail bondsman.

Confronted by cops and Tattooed Tony, the Hatch Sisters allegedly


asked, "Do You Know Who My Father Is?" (They have denied saying
it.) The cops politely ignored the obvious riposte ("If you don't
know, how do you expect us to know?"). All Chicago knows now:
Minnesota's attorney general paced the courthouse corridors,
talking about the "year of hell" he and his family went through and
threatening to toss Oprah Winfrey in a South St. Paul clink for
foisting Dr. Phil on the public.

Lesson No. 5: A dad teaches a daughter the proper answer


when a cop asks who your father is: "Tim Pawlenty."

The Hatch Sisters have been freed from the clutches of tyranny and
all is well. Elizabeth, who graduated last year from Gustavus
Adolphus College in St. Peter, Minn., can go back to her law studies
(and a job in a bar on Chicago's Rush Street). Anne, who graduates
Sunday from DePaul University, can find her path. And Mike Hatch,
having stood by his daughters in their time of trial, can go back to
what he loves best:

Carving up the governor.

Idea: The Aquatennial Torchlight Parade is July 20. The Hatch


Sisters would make great grand marshals. But make sure they are
home by 10.

And a final fashion thought: The brawl began when Elizabeth Hatch,
ejected from The Crobar without her Prada purse, tried to go back
and retrieve it. Which brings up Rule No 6:

There is no Rule No. 6. A father can do nothing about women


and Prada purses. Save your breath, Pops.

Nick Coleman is at ncoleman@startribune.com

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http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/...op/j14tommy.htm
Registered: Jan 2005
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Tommy gun tug-o-war
Posts: 833
"Tommy gun tug-o-war

By Joe Hosey
STAFF WRITER

LOCKPORT TOWNSHIP — A local man rehabbing a house on


Reverend Walton Drive made a historical discovery that Geraldo
Rivera would have given his right arm for when he plumbed the
depths of Al Capone's vault.

But Mr. Fixit says he turned into a loser on a lucky day when police

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stepped in to keep the mint-condition Tommy gun he found


concealed in the walls of the house he had recently purchased.

The man broke down a wall in the home he bought to spruce up


and resell and happened upon an immaculate 77-year-old
Thompson submachine gun stowed safely in a canvas bag.

The discoverer of this buried treasure, real estate businessman


Andrew Mayes, called police, and Deputy Dan Jungles arrived
Tuesday afternoon to pick up the "Chicago typewriter," as the gun
was sometimes called, and take it into the department.

"It's in pristine condition," Jungles said of the historic weapon,


which was stashed with a cleaning kit and about 400 rounds of
ammunition. The ammunition was accompanied by a 65-year-old
receipt from Barrett Hardware Co. in Joliet. The hundreds of .45-
caliber slugs cost $3.33.

Sheriff Paul Kaupas, a Marine, Vietnam veteran and longtime law


enforcement officer, is well-versed in the history of firearms and
appeared pleased by the recovery of the legendary Tommy gun. He
said this particular weapon was manufactured for the Navy, but
could be legally purchased by private citizens in the 1920s.

A brief check of the weapon showed that it had been fired before it
was hidden away in the wall of the house, Kaupas said, but he does
not know if it would be worth the effort to investigate if the
machine gun had been stolen or used in a criminal shooting.

Kaupas said this particular model of the Tommy gun, a 1928A1,


"shoots real sweet," and that he wants to keep it with the
department for posterity's sake.

But Mayes wants it back and has contacted a lawyer about


recovering his find.

"They took it, and they're going to do what they want with it,"
Mayes complained of this turn of events. "What right do they have
to keep it?"

One right the sheriff's department does have to seize the weapon is
that it would be illegal to possess, said John Birch, president of
Concealed Carry Inc.

"In the state of Illinois, there are no fully automatic weapons


allowed. Zero," Birch said.

"It's a felony (to possess the weapon)," said Birch, an Oak Brook
resident.

Birch did say Mayes could get around the law by making the
Tommy gun inoperable. While this might decrease its value as a
collector's item, it would allow him to keep it.

"Let's not be a law enforcement officer. Let's be a peace officer and

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give (Mayes) 15 seconds with a welder's torch," Birch advised police.

Birch also pointed out the weapon could be kept as an artifact


without putting the public at risk.

"The Museum of Science and Industry has a submarine, right?" he


said. "Are they going to deploy it and sink ships?"

Mayes said he only involved police in the matter to make sure the
weapon was not the instrument of foul play.

"Basically the only reason I called them was to make sure there
wasn't anything wrong with it," he said, "that it wasn't involved in
any incidents."

But then the cops kept it on him. And after speaking with an
attorney, Mayes is convinced he can have the gun back without
breaking the law.

Mayes also believes he is being deprived of a substantial profit by


the sheriff's department taking away the gun he found.

"I've been calling around about it, and it's worth a lot of money,"
Mayes said. "(A Florida gun dealer) said $10,000 would be the
lowest." "

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GOD COP Interesting.


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Cocaine is also worth money. It is illegal. If I find cocaine on the


ground, can I legally keep it?

This guy has very little wiggle room here. With a lawyer he might
be able to work something out to where he can sell it to a dealer.

They have the right to seize it and that is very clear here.

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It is illegal in that state.

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Navigatr1 Of course if they seize it, they have to destroy it. They can't just
Extended Sabatical hang onto the weapon for posterities sake. Just as they can't hang
onto cocaine for posterities sake. They have to destroy it.

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guys are."

From the movie "V for Vendetta:


"People shouldn't be afraid of their government, governments should be afraid of
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots
and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to William Smith; Paris, November
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GOD COP I think I note sarcasm in your reply Nav.


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There is some type of ATF form for L.E. only. That means the gun
can't be transferred. We have a few in my agency that were
confiscated after a murder suspect was caught. They are very old
and we have had them for over 30 years.

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Mad Abe "Kaupas said this particular model of the Tommy gun, a 1928A1,
????? "shoots real sweet," and that he wants to keep it with the
department for posterity's sake."
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Western hemisphere Sounds like the cops want to keep it in .gov stockpiles with the
Posts: 833 guns they bought with stolen tax dollars.

But the BoR says:

"nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just
compensation."

I don't see the guy getting payed for his find.

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Pizza man gets apology for three nights in jail

by Christy Gutowski, Daily Herald [Arlington Heights, IL]

Nov. 5, 2003

As Kevin Liszka sat in a police department holding cell for three


days, he remained confident authorities would realize they had the
wrong man.

Instead, police hauled Liszka off to the DuPage County jail on the
fourth day after a trail of evidence, including witness identification,
led back to him.

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=John C.=
"I just started crying," the Bolingbrook man said. "I said, ‘You're all
wrong. You guys are making a big mistake.'"

Police said Liszka was one of three assailants who burglarized a city
official's residence in Warrenville in a violent home invasion that
involved rape. The crime shook the close-knit community to its core.

From the onset, the 20-year-old man proclaimed his innocence.


Forty-two days later, prosecutors confirmed he had been telling the
truth. They cleared Liszka after charging the final of three suspects.

The case is just one example of the fallibility of the criminal justice
system — a system in which innocent people are sometimes caught
in the middle. It also is the reason eyewitness testimony, long a
trusted fixture in the courtroom, has come under increasing attack.

Liszka, though, had a lot more than mistaken identity working


against him. A pizza delivery, police sketch, failed lie-detector test
and a shaky reputation with police also played a role.

In his mother's words, "Kevin was the perfect mark."

Warrenville's usual calm was shattered early April 14 after news


spread that three assailants, one armed with a laser-sighted gun,
bound and robbed a well-known family.

As two victims lay face-down on the floor, one assailant sexually


assaulted a family member in an upstairs study. The trio fled the
affluent, wooded neighborhood with cash, coins, a cellular phone
and other items. The father soon loosened his bindings and called
911.

Mayor Vivian Lund declared it the most violent crime the city had
ever seen. Police Chief Robert LaDeur brought in the DuPage
County Major Crimes Task Force to help.

Initially, nearly two dozen officers were on the case. They chased
hundreds of leads, questioned dozens of people and looked into
possible connections with other recent home invasions in the area.

Anti-crime groups raised a $10,000 reward to help catch the


culprits. Posters with sketches of the suspects hung in local
storefronts. Police continued executing search warrants and
eavesdrop applications. Four months passed.

Kevin Liszka had strong ties to Warrenville. His grandfather, Ed


Miller, had been a respected alderman and Knights of Columbus
member before his death Sept. 21, 2000. His grandmother, Edna,
still lived in town.

On Monday, Aug. 11, Liszka was leaving a friend's house when he


spotted a Warrenville police officer following him in a marked squad
car.

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Liszka turned left. The squad car followed. Liszka turned right. The
officer tagged behind.

The young man suspected it had something to do with a fight he


had with a girlfriend four days earlier. After he and the officer spoke
for a few minutes about the argument, Liszka said he went to his
grandmother's house nearby and fell asleep.

He awoke the next morning to a nightmare.

Kevin Liszka was still in bed when he heard the police detectives
pounding on the door. He reached for the phone.

"Are you sure you cleared this up?" he franticly asked his girlfriend,
still assuming police were after him for the lovers' spat.

Liszka agreed to go with the detectives to the police station. He


soon realized why they had been so eager to talk to him.

An enlarged photo from his driver's license was on the wall of the
detectives' bureau — right next to a sketch of the gun-wielding
home invasion suspect.

"We think that person is you," he recalls the detective saying,


pointing to the sketch.

Liszka was incredulous. "I just thought, ‘This is ridiculous,'" he said.


"Take my fingerprints, put me in a lineup, search my house,
whatever. I'm innocent."

In the next 72 hours, police and prosecutors repeatedly


interrogated Liszka, put him through a lie-detector test and
arranged a lineup in which he stood shoulder-to-shoulder with four
inmates at the jail who typically get paid $5 for their time.

"Get down on the ground, sir," Liszka recalls being instructed to


say, mimicking the assailant's command.

His parents, Donna and Mark, consented that second night, Aug.
13, to let police search their home. Detectives searched Liszka's
bedroom but did not find the black-and-blue hooded Michigan
sweatshirt the gunman had worn or any stolen items. Police also
searched his grandmother's house, where Liszka often stayed, but
found nothing.

The more he cooperated, the deeper Kevin Liszka fell into trouble.
He resembled the police sketch. The nervous teen failed the lie-
detector test. And the city official whose family was attacked
repeatedly pointed to Liszka in mug shots and in the lineup.

The circumstantial evidence continued to mount. Detectives knew


Liszka had delivered a stack of pizzas to the victims' home for a
Christmas party. So, they grew even more suspicious when Liszka,
who said he didn't recall the delivery, emphatically denied ever

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being at the house when shown a photo. His alibi also didn't pan
out, authorities said.

And, though he had no criminal record, authorities said Liszka


wasn't exactly an altar boy. Police knew his name well. In the past,
he'd been questioned about a burglary. Authorities said informants
kept naming him as a possible suspect for the home invasion.

At the time, Liszka had a job, played baseball on a traveling team


and was taking GED classes. The street-smart young man doesn't
claim to be a saint. Still, he said, "I'm not one to pull a gun on
someone's family."

Liszka said he understands why innocent people confess. The


interrogations, at times, grew heated. At one point, authorities
warned they were giving him one last chance to come clean.

"They told me if there's no deal now, there will never be one," he


said. "At that point, considering I was facing 40 years in prison, I
was almost thinking about admitting to something I didn't do."

But Liszka never recanted his innocence — even on Friday, Aug. 15,
as he was booked into the DuPage County jail on armed robbery,
home invasion and burglary charges.

Police had only circumstantial evidence — no fingerprints, no


confession. But most incriminating was Kevin Liszka's connection to
a friend.

Police made their first arrest in the case Aug. 12, the same day
they brought Liszka in for questioning. They were led to 24-year-old
Damon V. Jones of Naperville while checking out leads from
informants.

Officials said Jones' DNA matched that found in semen at the crime
scene and he was nabbed with some of the stolen items and the
laser- sighted gun used during the crime.

Liszka said his friend, 18-year-old Kenny Stroup of Warrenville, had


introduced him to Jones. Authorities said Liszka admitted to them
that the two had partied together on about a dozen occasions —
including at a gang-related party in Aurora.

So, police had Jones. They were closing in on Stroup. As for Liszka,
they suspected he was the well-mannered gunman of the trio.
Prosecutors approved charges against Liszka that fourth day.

Outside in the police lobby, his mother, Donna, and two family
members had been waiting for four hours. The parents, whose
belief in their son's innocence never wavered, had encouraged him
to cooperate; to tell the truth. They held off on hiring a lawyer,
figuring Kevin was in safe hands.

Now, they were livid.

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"I said, ‘You think my son is going to commit this horrible crime a
mile from his grandmother's home and grandfather's grave?'"
Donna Liszka said. "I had been calm and cooperative the whole
time, and they didn't even have the decency to be upfront with me
and tell me they charged him."

Kevin Liszka appeared in bond court Saturday, Aug. 16, when a


judge set bond at $1 million.

His parents gathered their savings, maxed out credit cards and
borrowed from family. They scraped together the required
$100,000 that day to free their son.

"There was some concern about his safety, about what would
happen to him if we left him in jail," Mark Liszka said.

In the days that followed, the parents said, their son battled
depression. He lost his job. His face was splashed across
newspapers and on television. The family received a harassing
phone call.

His grandmother called one day crying, Liszka said, after receiving
a bitter reception at St. Irene Catholic Church.

Forty-one days after Liszka posted bond, police arrested Kenny


Stroup as the third assailant. He confessed, officials said, and gave
police an important lead.

Stroup provided detectives with sketchy details about the gunman


who, he said, wasn't Liszka. Stroup couldn't remember the guy's
name but said he fled to Minnesota after the crime.

Police soon learned the name of 21-year-old Craig Anthony Buzzell,


a former West Chicago man who had been working at a Naperville
Wal-Mart at the time of the home invasion.

Five law enforcement officials traveled to Minnesota, where Buzzell


was serving a one-year prison sentence for committing an eerily
similar home invasion May 4 — just weeks after the Warrenville
crime — in Coon Rapids, Minn.

DuPage County State's Attorney Joseph Birkett held a press


conference Sept. 26 to announce Buzzell's arrest. He also dropped
the charges against Liszka.

"Kevin Liszka was not involved in any way with this home invasion,"
Birkett said.

He said authorities "kept an open mind" and continued pursuing the


Minnesota lead despite having their three arrests. Birkett defends
the decision to arrest Liszka, rather than wait, given the violent
nature of the crime. Prosecutors did, however, hold off on indicting
him.

A defense attorney called Kevin Liszka that afternoon with the good

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news. His response: "It's about time."

Did the system work?

Authorities argue it did.

Buzzell, Jones and Stroup are in jail awaiting trial. Each

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