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A recent string of robberies on BART trains took a frightening turn when dozens of Neighbors
juveniles swarmed an Oakland station over the weekend and commandeered a
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Chris Reynolds The product of one party rule in Oakland and Alameda
County ... Nothing will be done ....
Like Reply 1 April 24 at 2G25pm
Bryan Emery Pepper spray? They will take that out of your hand, spray you SUGGESTED GROUPS See All
with it, and beat the crap out of you. These types of juveniles have no remorse
and will laugh in your face. Just give them what they want and hope you don't
end up being left with a head injury.
Like Reply 1 April 24 at 2G27pm
Keith Rarick They try that on me and the will get a swift kick to the
nuts.
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Bryan Emery I hope you're right but when its more than a dozen kids
acting like little punks, its hard to make that move. Youll find me on Picturesque Northern
the floor covering my head. California Join
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Jeani Miller Miner Bryan Emery Right there with you. I don't own
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Chris Reynolds It would have been fitting to see a couple dozen of the kids
walk away with lead-based injuries.Play rough, fall rough
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Steve Williams Noting you as a person who wants to kill children.
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You are threatening to kill 60 children. Over $20. Suggested Pages See All
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Eric Strimling Chris is a typical conservative. All bold and full of English (US) Espaol Portugus (Brasil)
bluster until someone challenges and then he's the sniveling victim. Franais (France) Deutsch
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Steve Williams It's very simple. You're not among friends here. You Cookies More
just ran up to a bunch of neighbors and strangers and said you Facebook 2017
wanted to kill children.
I'm merely pointing out that people go to jail for threats like that in
public spaces.
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Aurel Romualdo moments wherein i wish california gun laws are not that
strict....
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Steve Williams Noting you as a person who wants to kill children.
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Ken Ishida Public transit sucks and this was inevitable and probably more to
come.
I was never a regular transit rider and the first and last time I used it was in
2011, but no more.
Like Reply 1 April 24 at 3G23pm
Ken Ishida We need another Bernhard Goetz to step up and clean-up the riff-
raff.
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John Fabiani Why didn't it work last time?
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Ken Ishida Those undesirables aren't gonna rob anyone else anytime
soon.
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Jeremy Schmitz The thread on this subject on this group is very different
from the one on Peeps. I'm rethinking being part of this group. Maybe this is
more of a Dirty Harry crowd than I realized. We should only hope that no
private citizen has to take another life t... See More
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Cindy Ashcraft Danbom Thats BS. This wasnt some kid doing a
random bad thing, I'm sorry, but this was 60 people, who
premeditated, were organized, and violent. I dont care if they are 16 or
40. They are going to do it again, and again because their are no laws
that actually will incarcerate these criminals.
Like Reply 3 April 24 at 3G50pm
Bryan Emery Ya, not a kid doing something stupid. 40+ kids raising
hell on average citizens like myself sitting in ours seats reading our
tablets. There's nothing you can do when 40 kids start beating you
senseless.
Like Reply 1 April 24 at 3G54pm
Sia Kollo Sellu This community is a bit scarier than some of the
others. It is more real and less moderated and folks feel free to show
individual we'll call them failings. If you want to know what Alameda
you live in, this community is probably closer to the truth. The other
community is more aspirational in some ways.
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Jeremy Schmitz Sia, that's a very useful summary, thanks. I'm ok with
raw and real, but invoking a guy that was pretty much waiting for an
opportunity to take justice into his own hands or pegging
progressives as culpable for this crime had me questioning the group.
I'll continue extract the value I find from other members.
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Steve Williams These are children. And they took crap that is pretty
worthless.
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Ken Ishida Peeps are a bunch of busybody wussies and drama queens.
Like Reply 1 April 24 at 3G35pm
Jeremy Schmitz Many may be. But publicizing that we need another
Bernie Geotz is also very dramatic. Do you mean another $43M civil
settlement? Do you mean firing shots into the back of a fleeing person
or a second shot into one seated (no longer a threat)? Do you mean
one missed shot that could've hit any innocent bystander?
Like Reply 1 April 24 at 3G51pm
Chris Reynolds Not necessarily their fault that evil people act in an
evil fashion, but most office holding progressives don't care about
doing anything about such vile acts ...
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Mark Linkiewicz Jr That's it, I'm starting a petition to have TSA airport
screening at every BART station and a heavily armed BART police officer on
every car.
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Ken Ishida At least in Alameda, there are fewer escape routes and those
routes can be quickly blocked or closed (raise the bridges).
Like Reply 1 April 24 at 4G09pm
Tia Shalit Mackenzie Time for BART to have Police Officers on all trains. At
least on trains after 8pm. This is crazy.
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Steve Williams Or put security cameras in. Everyone knows there are
no cops and no cameras. Fake cops, fake cameras.
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Chris Reynolds I'm for security cameras and more BART cops. I'd
also like for D.A.'s to start prosecuting for max sentences for perps
who act in concert with other violent perps. Toss in some conspiracy
charges and add federal charges of denying innocent people
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Bill Delaney It would help if BART had its own Police force that could be
noticeable and engaged. What? They do? They have a Police force in place?
OMG. Where are they? Why do we never see them, anywhere? Has anyone
investigated why a paid force has no presence at any station? Are they
volunteers or do they get paid for what they do (or not do)?
Like Reply 1 April 25 at 9G00am
Richard Thomas They shoot people in the back as they're lying prone
on the platform.
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Jeremy Schmitz It's convenient when the extremists within a group self-
identify. So I know who to block.
Like Reply 5 April 25 at 10G55am
Ken Ishida Round them up and they can be the canaries in our first
experimental Mars colony. That'll teach them to work for their food.
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Eric Strimling I love how conservatives want less government except for
police. They want more police!
I guess they know who the police are directed at, and who they protect.
Like Reply 2 April 25 at 6G14pm
Aurel Romualdo i don't believe that conservatives want more police....i think
they just want the politicians in California to stop meddling in their right to
defend themselves...
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Steve Ma When I got off at Fruitville to get home around 8pm, I saw bunch of
teenagers around the bus stop areas on the streets as if they were about to
go robbing and mobbing, and these may be no doubt, the same or similar
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Alex Crumpette You're literally stereotyping these fucking kids. The
same or similar? Racist.
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Alex Crumpette You know exactly what the fuck you were alluding to.
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Chris Reynolds Especially at stations where problems routinely occur,
or where problem riders have a tendency to board. And then on
problem stretches of higher risk rides. Parking lots at problem
stations need to be monitored more thoroughly as well, primarily with
cameras. Also, it might help to increase criminal penalties for attacks
and robberies on public transit.
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guaranteed their right to sue any member of any security force that
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Alex Crumpette Yes, kill them all, and let God sort 'em out.
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Kirsten Quint Fairbanks Eye for an eye, Ken Ishida-- so we can have
some teenager wallets and be done with it? We can stop calling for
vigilante justice and militarized police force at BART stops?
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Alex Crumpette You want to chop off a middle schooler's hand for
stealing an iPhone and a couple of dollars?
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Alex Crumpette Also, I'd love to know if you have any children?
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Let's talk deterrence. Imagine if you saw a friendly face every day, and
then one day they had a black mask on and couldn't see their face?
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Jason Biggs This is a pretty disgusting thread. I'm not surprised that 60 kids
will act like the stupid little morons they are, but I'm just disappointed that
grown adults would outright advocate gun violence.
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Kirsten Quint Fairbanks This thread-- what you are advocating over some
iPhones and small bills. It is shocking.
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Alex Crumpette "I want freedom" "Just police and jail them all"
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Chris Reynolds Your simple characterisation, not mine. What would
YOU do to punish the criminals involved in these crimes?
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Alex Crumpette Yes, and I bet you love to play devil's advocate too
and have someone's children taken away from them.
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Alex Crumpette You do realize this issue is far deeper than you have a
comprehension of, right?
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Chris Reynolds I'm not slamming you for your intellectual abilities, it's
interesting you would do that to me ....
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Alex Crumpette Welp, once you mention throwing them in the prison
system. You prove you lack the understanding of the core issue.
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Chris Reynolds O.K., I see you are probably hold an absolute set of
beliefs that would often be called,"progressive", am I right? And that
your beliefs are unquestioning and absolute? Am I off by much ?
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Chris Reynolds I agree that they are fucked up kids. The ones who
threatened people, stole from people, attacked people are also
criminals. They can be both things
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Alex Crumpette Yeah, dude. I didn't say you were calling them
convicts. You don't need to explain to me the definition of the two.
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David Wrobleski An awful lot of people commenting on this story have never
been confronted on public transportation by these "children". I have. You can
feel smug, take what you think is the moral high ground, feel superior to me,
and call me a "piece of shit" if it m... See More
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Jason Biggs Holy shit. Seek help.
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David Wrobleski Jason Biggs and Alex Crumpette I'm glad you
pussies feel that way. Better get to your safe space and have a good
cry.
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Alex Crumpette David, hey man, you're the one that needs a gun to
feel safe. Seems like you're the biggest pussy.
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Alex Crumpette Aurel, so you just carry a gun at all times and hope
not to kill yourself or an innocent person in the heat of the moment?
Yeah, okay.
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Jason Biggs Aurel - you are really making a lot of false assumptions
about someone. I believe in public safety, I believe in the 2nd
Amendment, and I do believe these kids are scums. But responsible
gun owners know that using a gun is about self-defense, and
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Eric Strimling You know, these were 30 middle school kids. Eye
witnesses call them small. If the adults on the train had simply stood
up and told them no they would have been stopped. It is only because
half of America is afraid to offend anyone and the other half can only
have courage if they have a gun in their hand that incidents like this
can happen.
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Alex Crumpette Eric: Uh oh!!! You mean just like the kids that did the
same thing at the carnival?
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Ken Ishida The reality is that the world is rough place. Living in
alameda gives you a false sense of safety and percepdtion of the
world. Wake up to reality.
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Alex Crumpette Ken: Dude, what do you know? You went to high
school in Alameda. You're from Alameda. You're the one that needs a
wakeup call. Venture out. It's not that scary, little man.
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Aurel Romualdo I know what we should do...we tell those kids that
they did a bad thing and forget about it....lol
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Chris Reynolds Miss Alex, If someone spent a month and a half in the
dead of winter in rural Eastern Turkey, lived in Ireland for four months,
rode beat up buses in Honduras and Belize, and worked for six
months at the West Oakland Post Office in 1976-1977 during an
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Alex Crumpette "Ghetto towns", 'eh? I see. You think the children are
"ghetto"?
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Alex Crumpette Chris. I'm not even going to read your long winded
response because you're making this about you, and no one was
fucking talking to you.
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Chris Reynolds Alex Crumpette - You deflect well. You answer poorly.
It is what progressives have mastered above all else ....
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Alex Crumpette No, I just don't want to fucking engage with you. I'm
allowed to not talk to someone I don't feel like. You've mastered being
an annoying fuck above all else.
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Chris Reynolds Deflecting again. Talk with who you choose, ma'am.
That is the freedom I endorse for you ...
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Alex Crumpette First of all, I'm not a "ma'am". Secondly, you're just a
massive douchebag. You're so one of those disgusting, old men that
talk to young femmes even when they've asked you to stop.
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Alex Crumpette The solution starts away from the BART tracks. We
need to stop children getting to this place first. I mean, seriously.
Saying "if I was there" is so fucking masturbatory when talking about
having a firearm. You weren't there. No one had a firearm on
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Chris Reynolds I'm not new to such things. You're making undue
assumptions, with unnecessarily florid language. Rest well ...
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Alex Crumpette Imagine how men would react if us femmes spoke about
buying guns to "blow men's heads off" because we've been victimized and
have to protect ourselves from harm every single day.
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Kirsten Quint Fairbanks 1000% ^
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Alex Crumpette So lucky of you boys. You get to make pretend on Facebook
and be so tough.
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Chris Reynolds Not me. I never suggested I want to shoot anyone ... simply
alluded to the fact that I wouldn't really care if some violent criminals
sustained permanent injuries due to lead poisoning. If a persona is criminally
violent it should be considered no big deal for those perps to fall in the
commission of their terrorising crimes. I wouldn't shoot anyone, unless they
tried to break into my actual home.
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Eric Strimling So stealing purse should be a capital crime?
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Chris Reynolds Shooting a kid should only occur during the actual
commission of a crime. Hunting someone down in a parking lot for
revenge does no good at all. It stops no actual "in-progress" crime.
Shooting a kid who is tugging on a purse and slapping a person, THAT
would stop an "in-progress" crime.
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Eric Strimling Pretty sure that no cop ever would endorse shooting at
a kid pulling on a purse. Way too likely to hit the old lady.
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Kirsten Quint Fairbanks Does a kid really deserve to get shot over
the contents of a purse? Or slapping? Where were the other
passengers who should have stood up with an appropriate amount of
force-- blocking exits maybe, surrounding the kids?
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Eric Strimling And they should be tracked down, tried, and punished.
Rule of law and all that...
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John Fabiani "the initiators of violence initiate all acts thereafter ..."
Chris Reynolds John Fabiani - especially "he who starts it" ...
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Aurel Romualdo i bet ....if a robber or a mugger saw this on my hip...he would
think twice in robbing or mugging me...hehehe...
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Jenks Samuel Nora Abille and Liza Gabato Morse, are you two ok with
discussions such as these on this site? You do realize you have more than a
couple people on here discussing shooting kids for petty theft and one
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