Annis v. Law - Superior Court of California, Monterey County

1 SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA
2 COUNTY OF MONTEREY
3 MONTEREY DIVISION
5 HON. KATHERINE E. STONER, JUDGE DEPARTMENT 16
6
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7 JONATHAN ANNIS, )
) Certified Copy
8 Petitioner, )
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9 vs. ) Case No. 16FL000074
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10 JULIE LAW, )
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11 Respondent. )
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14 REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
15 APRIL 6, 2017
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18 APPEARANCES:
19 For the Petitioner: KATHERINE DORSET

ATTORNEY AT LAW
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For the Respondent: IN PROPRIA PERSON
22 VIA CONFERENCE CALL
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25 STEFANI CORTOPASSI, Official Reporter

1 MONTEREY, CALIFORNIA APRIL 6, 2017
3 PROCEEDINGS
4 THE COURT: Calling 16FL000074, Jonathan Annis
5 and Julie Law. This matter is going to have to trail to the
6 end of the calendar at 11:30. We had a last minute request
7 that was just filed last night that needs to be heard this
8 morning, and it probably needs to be heard after the rest of
9 the calendar is heard.
10 Do we have the Respondent, Julie Law, on the
11 phone?
12 THE RESPONDENT: Yes, ma'am. At 11:30 is 12:30
13 my time and I go to work.
14 THE COURT: I'm really sorry. Unfortunately,
15 there has been a request. You may be aware of the media
16 request, you may not, but the Court needs to rule on it, and
17 it should be done after the rest of the cases have been heard.
18 THE RESPONDENT: Can I make a request not to have
19 the media request because I have to go to work, and we can
20 just start in?
21 THE COURT: Did the -- was the media request
22 instigated by you?
23 THE RESPONDENT: Yes, but since I have to go to
24 work I had no idea that that would happen.
25 THE COURT: If you want to contact the media
GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 69954(D) PROHIBITS PROVIDING COPIES TO ANY OTHER PARTY OR PERSON 2
1 outlet that is making the request and ask them to withdraw
2 their request, we can take this up in a little while.
3 They'll need to notify the Court that they are withdrawing
4 their request.
5 THE RESPONDENT: She is in the courtroom at
6 present.
7 THE COURT: Well, you'll need to notify them
8 and talk to them about what you want to do. I'll pass this
9 for a while so that you can contact them or they can contact
10 you. Otherwise, it will be trailed to 11:30.
11 THE RESPONDENT: Can I stay online while my
12 court -- while I try to contact her?
13 THE COURT: It probably would be best if you
14 called back in about 15 minutes, and then we'll recall it at
15 that time.
16 THE RESPONDENT: Okay. Thank you,
17 Commissioner.
18 THE COURT: Thank you very much.
19 MS. DORSET: Your Honor, for the record,
20 Katherine Dorset with Dr. Annis and Deborah Crawford-Annis.
21 Also, your Honor, I am under the weather so I'm going to do
22 my best to hang out; but if you see me disappear, there's a
23 reason.
24 THE COURT: All right. Thank you.
25 (Other matters not related to this case were taken
1 up.)
2 THE COURT: Do we have Ms. Law on the line?
3 THE RESPONDENT: Yes, ma'am. The media person
4 went to Salinas so all she wants to know, can you make a
5 ruling now? Otherwise, we'll just get started.
6 THE COURT: No, I can't make the ruling now.
7 It will have to be later. That's what I will do is at --
8 I'll trail it to 11:30. If it's -- if the request is
9 withdrawn before 11:30, then -- then it's withdrawn and
10 someone can notify us and we'll hear it sooner than 11:30.
11 But I'm not going to hear it right now.
12 THE RESPONDENT: Okay. So what would you
13 like --
14 THE COURT: I understand -- excuse me. I
15 understand that you need to go to work. I'm trying to
16 accommodate that. But since you're the one who requested
17 that the media get involved and they have filed an official
18 request to be involved, I can't dismiss that request or
19 ignore that request without the media person who filed that
20 request initially notifying the Court that they're
21 withdrawing it. So it may be --
22 THE RESPONDENT: Okay. So --
23 THE COURT: Go ahead.
24 THE RESPONDENT: She's on her way over there
25 now; so I'll be talking with her and then we'll call you
1 back. How would you like us to call you back?
2 THE COURT: Well, she can -- she can let the
3 bailiff know that she's there and that she's withdrawing her
4 request and we can take it up that way. And then --
5 THE RESPONDENT: Great.
6 THE COURT: Then you can be in touch with her
7 and call in to the court again before you have to go to work.
8 THE RESPONDENT: The bailiff in your -- in your
9 courtroom, ma'am?
10 THE COURT: Yes.
11 THE RESPONDENT: Okay. Thank you so much.
12 THE COURT: Thank you.
13 THE RESPONDENT: I'll call her right now. I
14 appreciate it.
17 up.)
18 THE COURT: Recalling 16FL000074, Jonathan
19 Annis and Julie Law. The -- I'm informed by the court that
20 the media person is here but that the media person is still
21 requesting permission to record so that's not going to be
22 heard now. It will be heard at 11:30.
23 I'm trying to accommodate Ms. Law's request that
24 we hear this matter without that, but it's really up to the
25 media person who's made the request to -- to withdraw it and
1 they have not withdrawn it. So I'm going to return this to
2 the clerk. And I believe this might be the media person's
3 copy. All right. So we'll take that matter up. It will
4 trail until 11:30.
6 up.)
7 THE COURT: All right. Calling 16FL000074,
8 Jonathan Annis and Julie Law.
9 MS. DORSET: Katherine Dorset with Dr. Annis.
10 THE COURT: And is Ms. Law on the telephone?
11 THE RESPONDENT: Yes, I am.
12 THE COURT: Thank you. One moment. All right.
13 And we have someone here from Bassi Productions, LLC?
14 MS. BASSI: Yes.
15 THE COURT: And you can come forward, ma'am, if
16 you'd like, and state your name. Good morning.
17 MS. BASSI: Good morning, your Honor. My name
18 is Susan Bassi and I'm the owner of Bassi Productions.
19 THE COURT: Have a seat. And I have received a
20 request from Ms. Bassi to allow recording of this proceeding,
21 and I've reviewed the request. It was just filed last night.
22 MS. BASSI: Yes, your Honor. And I understand,
23 according to California Rules of Court, I wasn't able to file
24 it sooner and so I'm asking for good cause to record. And if
25 the request is denied, I'm asking just for note taking
1 purposes to be able to record.
2 THE COURT: And can you -- ordinarily, there's
3 a five-day requirement.
4 MS. BASSI: I understand that, your Honor.
5 THE COURT: And we need to talk one at a time.
6 I made that announcement before you got here.
7 So I can go ahead and grant your request on a
8 showing of good cause why the request wasn't made, as
9 required, five days in advance. Can you tell me what the
10 good cause is?
11 MS. BASSI: Just the nature of the media
12 industry, when we get word that something is happening that
13 we would like to have an interest in covering. I didn't get
14 word until yesterday, and so that was why I was able to make
15 the request.
16 THE COURT: And how did you get word?
17 MS. BASSI: We -- we are following a number of
18 issues and it's a public -- it's a public case.
19 THE COURT: I think Ms. Law said that she had
20 requested that you get involved.
21 MS. BASSI: We get a lot of requests and they
22 come a lot of different ways and we are covering a lot of
23 different issues right now.
24 THE COURT: That's fine. And -- but she had
25 said that she did request that you be involved. That's just
1 for the record.
2 MS. BASSI: Okay. And I understand that.
3 THE COURT: All right.
4 MS. DORSET: And your Honor, my client would
5 oppose the request.
6 THE COURT: That's not a question. Do you have
7 anything you want to say about it?
8 MS. DORSET: First of all, I don't believe that
9 there is good cause to justify the five-day rule. This
10 court -- this case has been set for some time now based on
11 Ms. Law's request to change the date.
12 It also was her request to appear by telephone.
13 And it would be grossly unfair to allow somebody to be -- my
14 client to be photographed and his name to go out in the
15 public when Ms. Law is appearing by phone by her own request.
16 So for those reasons we would oppose the request
17 as not being fair.
18 THE COURT: And Ms. Law, do you want to say
19 anything on this request? This is just --
20 THE RESPONDENT: Yes, I do. We were just
21 requested -- we just got confirmed about the telephonic
22 appearance a couple of days ago. We got the instrument for
23 that.
24 And in that regard, Ms. Bassi does this quite a
25 bit. And the factors in Rule 1.150, this is important
1 because it maintains the public trust in the judicial system.
2 This is the nature of a very rare case. It's
3 unprecedented and it should be for all subsequent
4 proceedings. This is a very rare case and we feel that it's
5 important to have this for the public trust.
6 THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. Well, I am going
7 to grant the request but there are conditions; so I want to
8 go through those conditions.
9 MS. BASSI: Certainly. Thank you, your Honor.
10 THE COURT: And I am bearing in mind all of the
11 factors that are found in Rule 1.150, and that includes the
12 importance of maintaining public trust and confidence in the
13 judicial system; the importance of promoting public access to
14 the judicial system; the nature of the case; support or
15 opposition to the request from the parties; the privacy
16 rights of all participants in the proceeding, and that means
17 the spectators as well; the effects on any unresolved issues
18 in the subsequent proceedings in the case; the security and
19 dignity of the court; and maintaining order and conduct of
20 the proceeding.
21 And another factor that's not enumerated in the
22 rules that I think is important, the nature of the
23 proceedings that take place on this calendar, which are
24 domestic violence proceedings; and the people that come
25 before this court are people who often have been subject to
1 abuse and have been traumatized. And so, the Court was very
2 concerned about protecting the privacy of those persons,
3 which is partly why the matter has been trailed to this time.
4 And so, for purposes of the request, the request
5 is granted subject to the conditions in Rule 1.150 of the
6 California Rules of Court, and further conditions that
7 there's to be no recording of the victim in this case or any
8 spectators in this case, and all the other conditions that
9 are set forth in the rule that I won't go over because
10 they're attached to the order.
11 So let me just make sure that I annotate the order
12 correctly, and then I'll give it to the clerk so that
13 everyone has a copy of that.
14 MS. BASSI: Your Honor, may I ask a point of
15 clarification?
16 THE COURT: Yes. Hang on a second and let me
17 just finish writing this before I lose my train of thought.
18 Yes.
19 MS. BASSI: Under Evidence Code 1070,
20 publishers and editors and reporters have a right to use note
21 taking -- recording of note taking devices that we agree, by
22 nature of our industry, not to publish. It would be hard for
23 me to record the proceedings and redact portions if the
24 victim were to talk or I would inadvertently record some of
25 that so I just wanted to know if I would be permitted to use
1 a recording device for note taking purposes?
2 THE COURT: For note taking purposes only.
3 MS. BASSI: Okay. Thank you, your Honor.
4 MS. DORSET: And my understanding of that is
5 that specifically referenced in the rule, your Honor, that --
6 and it would be that she shall -- that it would be that it
7 shall not be used for any purposes other than note taking.
8 MS. BASSI: That's correct. And that's under
9 our industry. It would prohibit me from publishing it; and
10 it would be a violation of an order, a court order, if I were
11 to publish that information. And so, I am just clarifying
12 that it is -- just so that everybody is very clear, it would
13 be a violation of the Penal Code to interfere with a
14 journalist's note taking information that is necessary to
15 disseminate information to the public, but I'm responsible
16 for what is actually published and I take that responsibility
17 seriously.
18 THE COURT: Yes. And I'll add an exception for
19 note taking equipment used solely for that purpose. And
20 because of the nature of this proceeding I'm limiting my
21 order today to this proceeding and not to subsequent
22 proceedings.
23 MS. BASSI: Yes. Thank you. I understand.
24 THE CLERK: Ms. Law, can you please try to
25 limit the background noise, shuffling papers and the like,
1 because it's coming over on the court's microphone. Thank
2 you.
3 THE RESPONDENT: Okay. Thank you.
4 THE COURT: All right. I have signed the
5 order. I'm going to give the -- I think the request that was
6 e-mailed has already been filed but I'm giving this to the
7 clerk and she'll take care of it.
8 MS. BASSI: Thank you.
9 THE COURT: Is there any other matters we need
10 to address with respect to the media request?
11 All right. So this is on for a request to renew
12 the restraining order. And bear with me while I get my
13 computer to wake up and find the right case. I have -- oh,
14 hang on a second. We're setting up the media person.
15 All right. I have reviewed the pleadings that
16 have been filed with regard to the request to renew. As
17 everyone is probably aware, there's no need -- on a request
18 for renewal there is no need to show any new instances of
19 abuse in order to have a request granted.
20 So given that, I think the question that I'm
21 interested in having everyone address is why a renewal is
22 desired or necessary.
23 MS. DORSET: Thank you, your Honor. And my
24 understanding is the standard will be a reasonable fear of
25 abuse in the future, which certainly has -- is what my client
1 is very concerned about. There have been violations since
2 the time this order was granted.
3 We have -- my office has tried to have civil
4 communications with Ms. Law. It has been impossible. Even
5 after the declaration that I filed in this case, after she
6 was personally served, show the ongoing length that she will
7 go to make threats against not only the --
8 THE REPORTER: I'm sorry. I'm hearing some
9 feedback and I'm having a hard time hearing you.
10 THE COURT: Ms. Law, I think whatever movements
11 you're making while you are on the call is affecting our
12 court reporter and me. If there's a way for you to be still
13 while Ms. Dorset is speaking, then you'll have an opportunity
14 to respond.
15 THE RESPONDENT: I'm not making any noise so
16 I'm not sure what's going on, but I'm being very still.
17 THE COURT: Okay. Thanks. I appreciate it.
18 MS. DORSET: Thank you, your Honor. So the
19 declaration that I filed after Ms. Law was served shows that
20 even attorneys that try to help this case are subject to
21 threats, abuse of e-mail procedures. Ever since I requested
22 to have any communication in writing, even by fax or by U.S.
23 mail, there has been no correspondence from --
24 THE COURT: Well, I'd like you to focus on
25 Mr. -- Dr. Annis, because he's the one who is requesting the
1 protective order.
2 MS. DORSET: Well, and that's the point, your
3 Honor. It's -- not only does she abuse Dr. Annis, but she
4 abuses everybody who tries to work in this case, including
5 the process server that was serving the process.
6 Mr. -- Dr. Annis has had to endure a number of her
7 contacts since the restraining order was -- was implemented.
8 It's obvious that she is not going to stop her harassment of
9 Dr. Annis. It's pretty obvious just with her inviting --
10 there's been other social media posts that we believe come
11 from Ms. Law, certainly the request for the media to be
12 involved today when, as you know, he's a physician in this
13 area, which makes it difficult. He could be targeted by
14 clients and other people based on harassment that she
15 continues and now is promulgating to all sorts of various
16 media sources, the State Bar apparently, according to the
17 threats.
18 Dr. Annis has been constantly concerned about
19 whatever comments -- every time he gets any kind -- he's had
20 texts through his children from -- that have come --
21 THE COURT: I have read all that.
22 MS. DORSET: And so, he -- the divorce was
23 final in 2009. I went through and looked through this file
24 since then. Her abusive practices haven't slowed down. In
25 fact, they've seemed to be on the ramp up; and that's the
1 concern is that if she could follow court orders we wouldn't
2 even need the restraining order but she violated the court
3 orders in the family court which makes us have to come in
4 here and seek relief because of the extreme harassment that's
5 jeopardizing his job.
6 And that's what his fear is is that if she -- if
7 there's no restraining order she will contact his work.
8 There is no doubt in his mind, in my mind, in his wife's
9 mind, that she will contact and make whatever contact she can
10 and this could result, and very likely would result, in
11 Dr. Annis losing his job. That is just not necessary in this
12 case.
13 She has an avenue to communicate properly, she
14 just cannot do it, and I think my client needs protection.
15 And he's certainly willing to explain to the Court that he
16 still fears the abuse from -- from Ms. Law, just as his wife
17 does.
18 THE COURT: You can briefly do that. I'm very
19 concerned -- we need to be finished at noon and I just don't
20 want to drag everybody back here again.
21 THE PETITIONER: Thank you, your Honor. I
22 believe she's adequately put forward the case. I regret
23 having to be in front of the Court again with this. I wish
24 that civil communication somehow could have been restored.
25 It has not been possible and I appreciate the Court's
1 understanding in considering giving me further relief from
2 the harassment I've endured.
4 THE PETITIONER: Thank you.
5 THE COURT: Ms. Law?
6 THE RESPONDENT: Yes, ma'am.
7 THE COURT: This is your opportunity to address
8 his request for renewal of the restraining order. And I did
9 review your responses, but you -- actually, there are already
10 a few different things that you filed; and I've looked at
11 them all so you don't have to repeat what's in there, but if
12 you can concisely tell me in maybe three or four or five
13 minutes why you think a renewal would not be necessary I'm
14 happy to hear that.
15 THE RESPONDENT: I don't think it's necessary
16 at this point. Since 2009, Ms. Dorset has turned through
17 four warriors, three judges, and $144,000 in legal fees.
18 The biggest problem is that Ms. Crawford was my
19 former divorce attorney. She then turned around and married
20 my ex-husband. That is very rare. She has used information
21 against me. She has harassed Jack and Kate. She has -- we
22 had a suicide issue where I talked to a neutral party and she
23 bated me by e-mailing me. I want her out of this case.
24 My mail goes to Ms. Crawford's business office.
25 That is -- if I can't see -- have U.S. mail contact only if
1 we can figure out a way to have communication -- because
2 Ms. Crawford, I have an e-mail that says she does my bills.
3 She can't do my bills. That's a violation. That's a breach
4 of ethics.
5 She cannot represent Dr. Annis. I have two cases
6 here combined, DVH8036 and this case today. This has been
7 going on for seven years. Dr. Annis refuses to pay his
8 bills. If he would pay the bills, there wouldn't be a
9 problem; but with my mail going to Ms. Crawford's address,
10 which is Dr. Annis's so-called physical address, that's
11 unheard of. That's a breach of conflict. She is using my
12 personal information. She can't have it both ways and
13 neither can Ms. Dorset.
14 U.S. mail is antiquated. They have refused Family
15 Wizard, reasoning is that it's a forensic accountant. I have
16 been prescribed by Dr. Annis. My children, that are now 18
17 and 21, and myself, we are all in PTSD therapy. It is
18 serious. They are doing this to get me -- to make me look
19 bad in front of the family courts. This has been going on
20 for seven years. If Dr. Annis would pay his bills there
21 would not be a problem.
22 I have six legal boxes. Ms. Dorset, I have
23 letters from four lawyers saying that they cannot work with
24 you because you turn. You have made this case into a
25 disaster.
1 There is no physical harm from South Carolina,
2 where I live, or from Colorado. I've never owned a gun in my
3 life. There is no physical harm. I don't know where they
4 live. They have guns, I do not. I am terrified of guns.
5 There is no imminent harm.
6 What they're trying to do is bluff. They want to
7 make me look like the bad person, but I don't think -- I've
8 talked to 5,000 lawyers in California and no one has ever
9 heard of a case like this.
10 All we need to do is untangle the U.S. mail
11 contact only because Ms. Crawford has no business in my
12 children's affairs, our children's affairs, our family
13 affairs, our tax affairs; but yet, Ms. Crawford has contacted
14 all my attorneys in defense of Dr. Annis, which is a total
15 breach. She cannot -- she can't do that.
16 THE COURT: Okay. Ms. Law, excuse me just a
17 minute.
18 THE RESPONDENT: What?
19 THE COURT: I don't want to cut you off. If
20 you have more to say, then we can come back here in the late
21 afternoon. But if you can wrap it up in the next minute or
22 so, then I can make a decision and you don't have to call
23 back.
24 THE RESPONDENT: Okay. There's -- there is no
25 serious and physical harm. We need to stop having the mail
1 sent to Ms. Crawford. We need to go through Family Wizard or
2 through a neutral accountant to handle the bills.
3 THE COURT: Okay. I've got that.
4 THE RESPONDENT: Ms. Dorset has been impossible
5 to work with.
6 THE COURT: All right. So as I understand your
7 objection is that limiting you to contact by mail is -- is
8 really not working because it's -- the mail goes to
9 Ms. Crawford; is that right?
10 THE RESPONDENT: Yes. My former divorce
11 attorney married my ex-husband.
12 THE COURT: And you're also saying you're no
13 physical threat or imminent threat to Dr. Annis; right?
14 THE RESPONDENT: Absolutely not.
15 THE COURT: Okay. I think I understand that.
16 Those, I think, are your main points. Are you ready for me
17 to make a decision now or do we need to address this further
18 at a different time?
19 THE RESPONDENT: No, I'd like to add one more
20 thing. A permanent restraining order can affect my job. It
21 can affect everything in my life. If Dr. Annis would like me
22 to get a good job, he would think about that.
23 THE COURT: Okay. Well, that's not something
24 that I have control over, what he does. Are you ready for my
25 decision?
1 THE RESPONDENT: Uh-huh. Yes, ma'am.
2 THE COURT: Okay. So the law on renewal of
3 restraining orders is different from the law for an initial
4 permanent restraining order. The -- the -- what the
5 Petitioner has to show in requesting a renewal is that
6 there's a reasonable apprehension of continued abuse.
7 The -- the original order was for a year. I think
8 it was the Court's hope at that time that everything would
9 calm down and that that would be a sufficient time for things
10 not to continue to be as toxic as they were and have the
11 kinds of things that were happening were happening before.
12 On the basis of the testimony that has been
13 presented today, including the declarations that were filed
14 and have been affirmed here, I find that there is a basis for
15 a five-year renewal of the restraining order.
16 The restraining order that was granted before does
17 permit contact by mail, and that will continue to be the case
18 in the renewed order. And I would encourage Dr. Annis to
19 provide Ms. Law with a Post Office box or other mail
20 receptacle that is opened and reviewed by Dr. Annis alone so
21 that Ms. Law's concern about Ms. Crawford's involvement could
22 be -- could be addressed and maybe that would help build
23 some -- a better way forward. That's not part of the order,
24 it's just a suggestion.
25 I have made my decision after considering
1 everything carefully, and I thank you, everyone, for your
2 time.
3 MS. DORSET: I'll submit the orders after
4 hearing, your Honor.
5 THE RESPONDENT: Can I say one last thing,
6 please?
7 THE COURT: Go ahead. If it's --
8 THE RESPONDENT: I don't agree. I find this to
9 be a bluff. I have to now -- this court is showing bias.
10 THE COURT: I'm sorry, Ms. Law. I'm going to
11 have to cut you off. I have made my order.
12 THE RESPONDENT: Then you will be going to the
13 CJP. Bye-bye.
14 THE COURT: Thank you.
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9 I, STEFANI CORTOPASSI, Official Reporter of the
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11 that the foregoing pages, 1 - 22, comprise a full, true, and
12 correct transcription of my stenographic notes in the
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1 SUPERIOR COURT OF CALIFORNIA

5 HON. KATHERINE E. STONER, JUDGE DEPARTMENT 16

14 REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS

19 For the Petitioner: KATHERINE DORSET

25 STEFANI CORTOPASSI, Official Reporter

4 THE COURT: Calling 16FL000074, Jonathan Annis

5 and Julie Law. This matter is going to have to trail to the

6 end of the calendar at 11:30. We had a last minute request

8 morning, and it probably needs to be heard after the rest of

9 the calendar is heard.

10 Do we have the Respondent, Julie Law, on the

12 THE RESPONDENT: Yes, ma'am. At 11:30 is 12:30

13 my time and I go to work.

14 THE COURT: I'm really sorry. Unfortunately,

15 there has been a request. You may be aware of the media

18 THE RESPONDENT: Can I make a request not to have

19 the media request because I have to go to work, and we can

20 just start in?

21 THE COURT: Did the -- was the media request

23 THE RESPONDENT: Yes, but since I have to go to

24 work I had no idea that that would happen.

25 THE COURT: If you want to contact the media

2 their request, we can take this up in a little while.

3 They'll need to notify the Court that they are withdrawing

5 THE RESPONDENT: She is in the courtroom at

7 THE COURT: Well, you'll need to notify them

10 you. Otherwise, it will be trailed to 11:30.

11 THE RESPONDENT: Can I stay online while my

12 court -- while I try to contact her?

13 THE COURT: It probably would be best if you

14 called back in about 15 minutes, and then we'll recall it at

16 THE RESPONDENT: Okay. Thank you,

18 THE COURT: Thank you very much.

19 MS. DORSET: Your Honor, for the record,

20 Katherine Dorset with Dr. Annis and Deborah Crawford-Annis.

21 Also, your Honor, I am under the weather so I'm going to do

22 my best to hang out; but if you see me disappear, there's a

24 THE COURT: All right. Thank you.

25 (Other matters not related to this case were taken

2 THE COURT: Do we have Ms. Law on the line?

3 THE RESPONDENT: Yes, ma'am. The media person

4 went to Salinas so all she wants to know, can you make a

5 ruling now? Otherwise, we'll just get started.

6 THE COURT: No, I can't make the ruling now.

7 It will have to be later. That's what I will do is at --

8 I'll trail it to 11:30. If it's -- if the request is

9 withdrawn before 11:30, then -- then it's withdrawn and

10 someone can notify us and we'll hear it sooner than 11:30.

11 But I'm not going to hear it right now.

12 THE RESPONDENT: Okay. So what would you

14 THE COURT: I understand -- excuse me. I

15 understand that you need to go to work. I'm trying to

16 accommodate that. But since you're the one who requested

18 request to be involved, I can't dismiss that request or

20 request initially notifying the Court that they're

21 withdrawing it. So it may be --

22 THE RESPONDENT: Okay. So --

23 THE COURT: Go ahead.

24 THE RESPONDENT: She's on her way over there

2 THE COURT: Well, she can -- she can let the

4 request and we can take it up that way. And then --

5 THE RESPONDENT: Great.

6 THE COURT: Then you can be in touch with her

7 and call in to the court again before you have to go to work.