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ghazala SizingOf
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on:October27,2009, Undergraduate:
MoleSnacks:+0/0 08:15:33AM GeneralChemistry
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i'mdoingadesignprojectonanaerobicdigestion InorganicChemistry
ofMSWandi'mhavingproblemswithchoosing StatisticalMechanics
QuantumMechanics
anequationtocalculatethesizeofthedigester. BondingTheory
i'vecomeacross3equations.herearethe CoordinationChemistry
resultsobtained: OrganometallicChemistry
OrganicReactions
GeneralInterest:
%Composition CookieCrumbles
Serendipity
(byweight)Moisture%Volatile
Solids%
Yardwaste576070
Kitchenwaste317092.4
Paperwaste12694.8
thisdatawasgiveninthedesignstatement.i'm
supposedtotreat32tons/dayofMSWandwith
thesystemi'musingmyretentiontimeis20
days.
1stmethod:
Mass(kg)
Moisture(kg)
Yardwaste57/100*32=18.24
60/100*18.24=10.944
Kitchenwaste31/100*32=9.92
70/100*9.92=6.944
Paperwaste12/100*32=3.84
6/100*3.84=0.2304
ifindthemoisturecontentofeachcomponent.
thetotalmoisturecontent=18.1184ton/day
Densityofwater=1000kg/m3
therefore,1ton=1m3
volumeofdigester=volumeoffeed(m3/d)*
retentiontime
volumeofdigester=18.1184*20
=362.368m3
2ndMethod
feedflowrate=32ton/day
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V=20*32
=640m3
3rdMethod
BulkDensityofMSWinMauritius=200224
kg/,m3
takingbulkdensitytobe224kg/m3,
1kg=1/224m3
Mass(kg)
Drymatter(kg)
Yardwaste57/100*32=18.24
40/100*18.24=7.296
Kitchenwaste31/100*32=9.92
30/100*9.92=2.976
Paperwaste12/100*32=3.84
94/100*3.84=3.6096
totaldrymatter=1388.16kg/d
volumeofdigester=feedinm3/d*retention
time
volumeofdigester=1388.16/224*20
=1239m3.
Thesearethe3methodsiused,iwouldbe
gratefulifanyonecouldguidemethroughthe
choiceoftheequationtobeused.
thanks.
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2009,04:01:16PM
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Posts:659 Goodquestion,andletsworkthrougheach
scenario.
Mydeskagreeswiththelawof
entropy
Ifyouarerequiredtotreat32tons/dayat20day
retentiontime,thenyoumusthaveaminimum
of(32x20)640tons(640m 3)per20daycycle.
Answer#1is~363m 3.Thiswillnotmeetthe
minimumrequirements,soitiseliminated.
Answer#2is640m 3.Thismeetstheminimum
requirements,butdoesnotallowforsystem
poisoning,ortankmaintenance.Thebuiltup
solidswillneedtoberemovedatsometime,so
youwillneedmorethan640m 3.
Answer#3is1239m 3.Thisprovidesasafety
factorofabout2.Ifthesystembecomes
poisoned,thenyouhavestoragetoregenerate
newmicroorganismsand/orslowlydilutethe
poisonedsystem.Tobeonthesafeside,Iwould
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Ihopethishelps.
Sincerely,
Eugene
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Posts:7 DearEugene,
Iamthinkingofusingaprocesssimilartothatof
thedrancoprocesswherethewastewill
recirculatethroughthedigesteronabasisoffour
days,sothiswillpreventpoisoning.ifitakethe
640m3digesterandaccountforsomespace,say
10%moreforthebiogasproduced,willitbeok?
Regards,
Ghazala.
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Posts:659 Idon'tknowifyoucanpreventpoisoning.Ifyou
can,thenthiswouldbegreat!Ithoughtthatthe
Mydeskagreeswiththelawof
entropy
Drancosystemneededabout20days,andthe
bacteriawerethermophilic?Theenergyfromthe
gassesfromanaerobicdigestionareusedto
powernaturalgasengines,andtheexcessheat
isusedtoincreasemicrobialaction.Iamnot
surehow10%morespaceina4daydigester
couldhelp.
Couldyouhelpmeunderstandthisalittlemore?
Thanksforyourpatience.
Sincerely,
Eugene
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helloEugene,
Yes,theDrancosystemdoeshavearetention
timeof20daysbutitalsorecirculatesthe
digestate67timesinthedigester.itusesthe
gastoproduceelectricityandheat.ineedto
designsuchaplant.increasingthevolumeby
10%wouldgivespaceforaccumulationofgasin
thedigester.
Regards,
Ghazala.
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Youhaveprovidedsomeinterestingnumbers.I
havefoundanarticlewhichprovidessome
Mydeskagreeswiththelawof
entropy
values:
http://www.ows.be/pub/The%20Dranco%20Technology%202006_alg.14634%20Rev00
Aquotefromthisarticlestates:
Quote
Asingledigesterof3150m3oftotalvolumecantreat50,000
tonperyearoforganicwaste
Thisseemsasifthesevalueswouldbethe'best
case'andwouldassumenopoisoningorlow
nutrientfeedstock.
50,000tonsperyear=137tonsperdaywitha
digesterof3150m 3
Ifyoursystemisworkingperfect,thenassuming
theseabovenumbersfromthearticleare
correct,your32tonperdaysystemwould
requireabout736m 3.Thiswouldfitwithyour
additional10%suggestion.
Sinceoperatorsarehuman,andweallmake
mistakes,wouldyoubeabletohaveafully
trainedstaff,goodfeedstock,andnoproblems
withpoisoningorcontaminationtomakesure
thisoptimalsystemworks?
Thisisuptoyoutodecide.Ifthesystemdoes
notworkasplanned,thenyouwouldneedto
justifyyouractions.
Iwishyouthebestwithyourproject.
Sincerely,
Eugene
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Ghazala
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Posts:1 HiIamtryingtofindsomeinformationona
smalltomidsizedversionofananaerobic
digester.Ourcafeteriaproducesalittleovera
tonoffoodwasteperweek.Howlargeofvat
wouldbeneededforthatlevelofflow?Also
whatwouldbeagoodretentionratefor
producingasteadyamountofmethane?The
methanecanbeuseddirectlyforsteam
productionfortheschool'ssteamnetworksoits
productionisthepriority.Ifyouhaveanswersor
candirectmeonwheretofindfurther
informationitwouldbemuchappreciated.
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ghazala Re:SizingOf
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Posts:7 Hikbarry,
wellforthevolumeofthedisgesteru'llneedto
findthedensityofthewaste,thencalculateits
volumeasfollows:
volumeofdigester=volumeoffeed/day*
retentiontime
volumeoffeed=massoffeed/densityoffeed
Now,fortheretentiontime,ifuplanonusing
thermophilicconditions(i.eheatingthedigester
upto55degreescelcisus)thenu'llhavea
retentiontimeof22daysinthedigester,
whereasifudonotplanonheatingit,using
mesophilicconditions,u'llhavearetentiontime
ofaround4050days.
Regards,
Ghazala
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Posts:1 Hi,
IfIweretosetupananeraobicdigesterlocally
thatgetsitsfeedeveryday,howdoImakesure
itisairtightatthetimethefeedstockisbeing
fedtoit?
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