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Coroner Sara Hinchey J 10-6-2017


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10 Ref: 20170610-G. H. Schorel-Hlavka O.W.B. Re SUBMISSION to Coroner Sara Hinchey J-Supplement 15


Madam,
further to my 13 February 2017 submission and Supplement 1 and Supplement 2 of 13-
4-2017, Supplement 3+COMPLAINT of 14-4-2017, Supplement 4+COMPLAINT of 16-4-
2017, Supplement 5+COMPLAINTof 15-4-2017, Supplement 6 of 23-4-2017, Supplement 7 of
15 24-4-2017, Supplement 8 of 25-4-2017, Supplement 9 of 1-5-2017, Supplement 10 of 6-5-2017,
Supplement 11 of 19-5-2017, Supplement 12 of 21-5-2017, Supplement 13 of 25-5-2017,
Supplement 14 of 28-5-2017, I hold it appropriate to provide this Supplement 15 of 11-6-2017.
I on Saturday 10 June 201 understood that Premier Daniel Andrews made clear (91.5FM Radio)
20 that putting permanent bollards at Bourke Street mall and Federation Square was a priority to
be done without delay, and referred to the Nice incident, when referring to the Bay Street,
Brighton murder. I understand from 91.FM Radio bulletins that Premier Daniel Andrews desire
to create a federal prison where persons associated with terrorism will be placed. One can
wonder if that means politicians whom were terrorist in unconstitutional invading Iraq then will
25 all be locked up in there? I doubt it.
.
What we have is what I consider a creep and a political opportunist to deceive the general
community and use the death of 6 people for his own political ends.
.
30 I will below therefore address some issues.
.
THE CONSTITUTION BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE! THE ENEMY IS WITHIN!
There can be no doubt that I in my July 2002 writing notified the then General Peter Cosgrove
35 (Now Governor-General) that without a Declaration of War he couldnt invade another country.
He nevertheless did.
There can be no doubt that the High Court of Australia in not less than 4 occasions 18 February
2003, 19 February 2003, 18 March 2003 and 19 March 2003 refused to accept my Section 75(v)
40 of the Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900 (UK) application opposing the armed
invasion into a friendly sovereign country Iraq without a Declaration of War published in the
Gazette by the Governor-General citing this country. As such a gross denial of my constitutional
rights embedded in the constitution!
45 Hansard 9-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates (Official Record of the Debates of the National
Australasian Convention)
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Mr. BARTON.-It is an appellate jurisdiction, according to the American decision.

Mr. ISAACS.-If it is an appellate jurisdiction it necessarily assumes there is power to make application to
the state court to start with, and the provision would not derogate from that power. The judicial power is
conferred in respect of certain matters. Power is given to legislate in respect of certain matters, and in all
5 things incidental or necessary in regard thereto. Surely that covers matters such as writs of mandamus,
injunctions, prohibitions, habeas corpus, writs and attachments, and everything which constitute the
means of the court to carry out its decrees. Parliament has the fullest power to confer those powers. My
great objection to the proposal is that it will operate as a limitation upon other provisions for judicial power.
It assumes there is no, power to grant a mandamus. The latest American case I know of on the subject-it is
10 not in Baker, though it was decided before that book was published-is the United States ex rel. Boynton v.
Blaine, decided in 1891, and reported in 139 United States Reports. This case makes the matter clear, both as
to what the court can do and what it cannot do in regard to mandamus. In that case we read-

The writ of mandamus cannot issue in a case where its effect is to direct or control the head of an Executive
department in the discharge of an executive duty, involving the exercise of judgment or discretion.

15 Now, the converse of that is also stated:-

When a mere Ministerial duty is imposed upon the executive officers of the Government, that is, a service
which they are bound to perform without further question, then, if they refuse, the mandamus may be issued
to compel them.

That power exists in the United States without any provision to the effect in the Constitution. And it would
20 exist with us [start page 1880] without any such provision. If we go putting in limitations, we should be in
exactly the same position as we would if we put a series of limitations on the trade and commerce clause. We
have heard it said frequently that if we put in these limitations on the trade and commerce clause, they will
operate as a means of cutting down the wide operation of that clause. We are doing exactly the same if we put
this in. What the Chief Justice of the United States stated was this:-

25 The writ of mandamus cannot issue in a case where its effect is to direct or control the head of an Executive
department in the discharge of an executive duty involving the exercise of judgment or discretion. U.S. ex
rel., Redfeld v. Windom 137 U.S., 636, 644. When by special statute or otherwise a mere Ministerial duty is
imposed upon the executive officers of the Government; that is, a service which they are bound to perform
without further question, then, if they refuse, the mandamus may be issued to compel them. U.S. ex rel.
30 Dunlap v. Black, 128, U.S. 40, 48 The writ goes to compel a party to do that which it is his duty to do without
it. It confers no new authority, and the party to be coerced must have the power to perform the act.
Brownsville v. Loague, 129, U.S. 493,501.

What more do we want? If it is intended to go further, and put into this Constitution a power by which the
court can have the right to do whatever it thinks just and proper on a mere application by way of mandamus,
35 or prohibition, or injunction, then it is going a great deal too far.

END QUOTE

Hansard 1-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates


QUOTE

40 Mr. WISE.-If the Federal Parliament chose to legislate upon, say, the education question-and the
Constitution gives it no power to legislate in regard to that question-the Ministers for the time being in each
state might say-"We are favorable to this law, because we shall get 100,000 a year, or so much a year, from
the Federal Government as a subsidy for our schools," and thus they might wink at a violation of the
Constitution, while no one could complain. If this is to be allowed, why should we have these elaborate
45 provisions for the amendment of the Constitution? Why should we not say that the Constitution may
be amended in any way that the Ministries of the several colonies may unanimously agree? Why have
this provision for a referendum? Why consult the people at all? Why not leave this matter to the
Ministers of the day? But the proposal has a more serious aspect, and for that reason only I will ask
permission to occupy a few minutes in discussing it. Not that I believe that it will be carried, but I think it
50 is an echo of a widespread misapprehension which prevails outside as to the duties and functions of the
Supreme Court. It very often seems hard to a layman that that which has been enacted by Parliament should
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be declared to be illegal by a Supreme Court when the statute is called into question during litigation between
two citizens. It is hard, but like everything else in politics, it is a choice of evils. The question is: Whether it
would not be of much greater disadvantage to the whole community to bring in the Supreme Court as an
interpreter of the Constitution before any precise case was taken before it, than it is to leave the individual to
5 suffer the hardship of finding that the Act upon which he relied was really invalid? I will not use my own
language in explaining the position, but, to have it put upon record, I should like to quote a passage which
occurs on pages 154 and 155 of Dicey's Law of the Constitution. After pointing out that the American
Supreme Court exists to interpret the Constitution, and to see that effect is given to its provisions, the writer
goes on to say that-

10 The power, moreover, of the courts, which maintains the Articles of the Constitution as the law of the
land, and thereby keeps each authority within its proper sphere, is exerted with an ease and a
regularity which has astonished and perplexed continental critics. The explanation is that the Judges of
the United States control the action of the Constitution, but they perform merely judicial functions,
since they never decide anything but the cases before them. It is natural to say that the Supreme Court
15 pronounces Acts of Congress invalid, but in fact this is not so. The court never directly pronounces any
opinion whatever upon an Act of Congress.

[start page 1687]

What the court does do is simply to determine A. is or is not entitled to recover judgment against X.;
but in determining that case the court may decide that any Act of Congress is not to be taken into
20 account, since it is an Act beyond the constitutional powers of Congress.

If any one thinks this is a distinction without a difference he shows some ignorance of politics, and does not
understand how much the authority of a court is increased by confining its action to purely judicial business.

In a book prepared by you, sir, entitled A Manual of Reference for the use of Members of the National
Australasian Convention, to which frequent reference has been made, the matter is further dealt with. You
25 say, at page 126, in words that I would like to adopt as part of my argument:-

No doubt the power given is very great, but it is exercised in a manner and by a body which affords
the least possible chance of friction and quarrels between the central and the provincial governments.
A veto by the central authority has to be exercised at a time when the public attention of the provincial
electors is directed to the matter; at a time when, perhaps, party spirit runs high, when angry passions
30 pervade both factions, and when the subject-matter is invested with an importance which is not
intrinsic, whereas a declaration by a court that the statute is invalid is withdrawn from the sphere of
politics. Each individual and each state looks upon it that such declaration is given only in pursuance of
the Constitution. Public attention is probably directed to other matters, and the question has, in many
cases, shrunk into its native insignificance; and "it is to the interest of every man who wishes the
35 Federal Constitution to be observed that the judgments of the federal tribunals should be respected,
and they take it that the courts are the protectors of the federal compact, and that the federal compact
is, in the long run, the guarantee of the rights of the separate state."

If the proposal of the honorable member (Mr. Gordon) was carried into effect-though of that, I think, there is
not the slightest chance-it would follow that any person who was aggrieved by an unconstitutional enactment
40 would have to persuade the Attorney-General of the state or of the Commonwealth, as the case might be, to in
some way set the law in motion to ascertain the legality of the enactment, If the enactment was one which
affected a matter exciting strong party feeling, the result would be that the abstract question of its
validity would have to be argued before the court at a time when public feeling was excited, although it
would be of the utmost importance that the decision of the court should be entirely free from all
45 suspicion of political bias. Then, too, the enactment might be valid in parts and invalid in other parts,
or it might be impossible to interpret it in the abstract. It is impossible to foresee the bearing of a
statute upon all possible cases, and it is only when a case comes for determination before a court that
the court is able to say that in that particular case the statute does or does not afford protection to the
citizen who has relied upon it. The honorable member's proposal would remove at once the greatest of all
50 safeguards to the impartiality and usefulness of the Federal Court, by taking away from it its right to deal
with matters which are brought, as lawyers term it, to a distinct issue, and with precise and definite points, in
regard to which the full bearing of every word of the judgment could be appreciated? Instead of the court
being able to determine the legality of an enactment in its bearing upon any particular case, there
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would be considerations introduced which were utterly foreign to the atmosphere of the tribunal, and
that would seriously impair the public confidence in a court which, with us, as in America, will, I
believe, prove to be the ultimate protector of the liberties of the people. Then, too, the amendment is in its
form so complicated that its practical working will be impossible. The honorable member said truly that the
5 Attorney-General constantly intervenes now. But he intervenes at the expense of the individual. The
individual presents his case, and gives a guarantee for costs. Under this proposal all that would happen would
be that the individual who wanted to assert [start page 1688] his right would have a barrier placed between
him and the obtaining of justice. He would have to satisfy the Attorney-General for the time being that he
would be able to pay the costs of any action, and he would have to bring sufficient political pressure to bear
10 upon that officer to get him to move in the case, and finally he would be left to contest the matter in his own
interests and in his own name. The result would be that the rights and liberties of every citizen in the
community would be placed at the mercy of a chance parliamentary majority.

Mr. GORDON.-That is the position now-the rights and liberties of every individual are at the mercy of a
parliamentary majority.

15 Mr. WISE.-The honorable member is now speaking of rights in respect to legislation. If the Parliament of
South Australia were to pass a law contravening the Merchant Shipping Act

Mr. GORDON.-I am not speaking of Imperial legislation.

Mr. WISE.-Suppose the Parliament of South Australia wanted to get rid of the Plimsoll Mark Act-even
though there were a majority it would be invalid, but according to the honorable member, when, we have here
20 a case exactly analogous, if the Constitution limits the power of the state, and enacts that certain powers shall
belong exclusively to the Commonwealth Parliament, and that if the state deals with them it invades the
authority of the Commonwealth Parliament, the individual is to have no rights unless he can persuade the
Government of the day to take up his case. It is in the interests of the poorer and uninfluential classes of
the community, it is. in the interests of the minority, that this amendment should be rejected, because it
25 places an obstacle in the way of obtaining that justice which ought to be free to every individual in the
community.

Mr. HIGGINS (Victoria).-I should like to add my protest against this new clause. I am bound to say
something, because the honorable member (Mr. Gordon) says it is only the conservative and timid lawyers
who would venture to oppose this proposal.

30 Mr. GORDON.-I did not say that. I said as a rule the legal profession is, according to Herbert Spencer, a
timid and conservative class.

Mr. HIGGINS.-That may be so, and if the honorable member says he did not make that statement it is all
right. Anyhow, I thought he said that only conservative and timid lawyers would oppose this clause. There is
no doubt the intention of the honorable member is excellent. He wants to diminish litigation. If he can show
35 that this will diminish litigation to any material extent, and, at the same time, will not involve us in a great
many dangers to our liberties, I will go with him, but he has not shown anything of the sort. As Mr. Wise has
shown, it will throw an unpopular minority into the power of a chance Ministry of the day. We must see to-
day that the rights of individuals, even unpopular individuals, are preserved in the Constitution. I think
Sir John Forrest said that I personally had not got sufficient respect for the rights of individuals.

40 Sir JOHN FORREST.-No.

Mr. HIGGINS.-Do I understand him to refer merely to private property?

Sir JOHN FORREST.-Not the same respect as I have.

Mr. HIGGINS.-I understood the honorable member to put himself on the very highest pedestal, and by
contrast to put me on the very lowest. At all events, I feel that if this were carried, an unpopular individual, to
45 obtain his rights and liberties, would have to go cap in hand to and be at the mercy of the Government of the
day. I was thinking of the pig-tail case which occurred in California, and which I alluded to some time
ago, where an abominably unjust law was passed against Chinamen. It was passed to persecute them in
regard to their pig-tails, which they [start page 1689] regard with exceptional reverence. That law was
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declared to be unconstitutional as a law passed by a state. I ask honorable members to consider the great
difficulty there would be in getting the Federal Congress or Federal Executive to interfere in the case of
Chinamen, so as to enforce their rights in such a case. There was an exceptional law which should never have
been passed. It was distinctly a persecuting law. Any practical politician would see the great difficulty there
5 would be in appealing to a Federal Executive, especially if there was an election approaching, to enforce the
just rights of Chinamen in such a case. The same thing might happen supposing a federal law were
passed which was outside the Constitution. Supposing that a majority of the state concerned happened
to regard the man as unpopular supposing a law were passed that no one bearing the name of Jones
should be admitted into the state of Virginia, the law might be directed against a certain person named
10 Jones, and it would be unconstitutional, and Jones could not enforce his rights to go into that state. I
ask, is he to be compelled to go cap in hand to the Attorney-General of the state of Virginia to enforce his
rights? I feel that, with the very best intentions my honorable friend is making the gravest of mistakes. So far
as regards the main purport of the amendment, it would mean this: That you could only get a point of this sort
decided by having a state or Commonwealth intervening as a party. You would turn judicial questions into
15 political questions. You would proclaim-"Here is a question between the state and the Commonwealth;
here is a political question"; and you would make the Judges partisans. It is one of the great
advantages of private persons being able to raise these points, and not the states or the Commonwealth,
that you keep the judicial bench free from the taint of political partisanship. I feel that the more you look
at this thing all round, the more inconsistent it is with the very first principles of justice. It may be said-Even
20 supposing the law does go beyond the Constitution in some degree, surely it ought not to be left to a private
person to upset it." I say it ought to be upset at once and at the very earliest point. As soon as ever you
find it has gone beyond the bounds you ought to say-"This thing is illegal." Otherwise you will leave to
the Ministry of the day these powers of which you are so careful, giving them to a majority of the states
and to a majority of the people. You would allow the Ministry of the day to exercise a suspending
25 power as to whether it would enforce a law or not, which is most dangerous. It is one thing to induce a
Government or Parliament to pass an unjust law, and it is quite another thing to induce a Government for one
excuse or another to hold its hand from acting. What I fear is that you would often induce the Government to
withhold its hand from acting, for fear it would incur opprobrium or unpopularity. I sincerely hope the
amendment will not be carried.

30 Mr. GORDON (South Australia).-Of course the objections raised are those I expected, only I think they
might have been put with even greater force. And there is a great deal more to be said in favour of my motion
than I have been able to say. I agree at once with the interpretation of Mr. Wise that this measure is a simple
method of amending the Constitution by acquiescence. I intended it to be so, and that is not a demerit-it is a
merit-of the proposal. As for the argument that you might as well have no Constitution at all if you allow
35 amendment by acquiescence, that seems rather wide of the mark. People going into a partnership lay down
the general terms of that partnership, but they may be qualified by consent. But you must have in your
partnership general rules laid down. There are the general lines laid down in the Constitution, which within
certain limits may [start page 1690] be modified as agreed, so that the honorable and learned gentleman's
argument in that view, I think, fell to the ground. Mr. Higgins enforced the argument as to the rights of the
40 individual. Now, I have already said that I think those individual rights should be subordinated to the general
rights of the community, and to their interests as expressed in the law for the time being. I object altogether to
the objection that party faction would govern. What would govern it would be the sense of the community for
the time being. However, as there appears to be no hope of carrying the proposal, I must content myself by
submitting it to the committee.

45 Mr. Gordon's proposed new clause was negatived.

END QUOTE

What we have however is that State Premiers and the Prime Minister work out whatever and then
somehow this is enforced regardless of the true meaning and application of the constitution.
50 There are then people totally devastated a result of certain conduct by the politicians and robbed
of their constitutional rights. And when the High Court of Australia unconstitutionally had its
rules of the Court (as pointed out by Senator Rodney Culleton) we end up deprived of an
independent/impartial Administration of Justice.
.
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Iran attacks: 13 dead as gunmen, suicide


bombers target Parliament and mausoleum
Updated about 3 hours agoThu 8 Jun 2017, 9:13am

QUOTE
5 Key points:
Attackers dressed as women burst through Parliament and detonated a suicide vest
END QUOTE
And
QUOTE

10 Deputy Interior Minister Mohammad Hossein Zolfaghari told Iran's state TV the apparently male attackers wore
women's attire. The semi-official Tasnim news agency reported the siege had ended with four of the attackers killed.

"One of them was shot dead and another one detonated his suicide vest,"
Mr Hossein Zolfaghari said.

15 END QUOTE

I have warned in past writing have warned about the Hijab and other covering clothing to be used
whereas others must remove helmets etc, will soon or later end up in a disaster. Then politicians
will obviously argue new legislation is required rather than first make sure that such legislation
20 avoid such mass murder incident to occur in the first place. It more than likely would be the
innocent visitors to the Parliament who might have the brunt of any terrorism attack rather than
the politicians themselves. There has been numerous incidents of terrorism hiding in Hijabs, etc,
and yet we have politicians more concerned with absurd notions of rights rather than the safety of
citizens.
25 It might very well soon be that Iran, who really when disposing of the Shah insisted on women
being about fully covered and it was not a religious issue but merely to deny women equality of
status with men, may very well realise that in todays society they better amend their rules as the
usage of women clothing for terrorist is spreading throughout the world.
QUOTE
30 New Law of the land.
People

Jim <jim.sovereign@optusnet.com.au>
Today at 14:03 (8-6-2017)

To
35 Message body

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From: steve lloyd <xkrgts@icloud.com>

To: anthony.keane@news.com.au

Date: June 7, 2017 at 6:21:17 AM EDT

40 Subject: Fwd: New Law of the land.

Sent from my iPad

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From: stephen lloyd <powerconditioners360@gmail.com>


Date: 7 June 2017 at 8:11:54 pm AEST
Subject: Fwd: New Law of the land.

5 HOW FASCINATING IS THIS EMAIL?!

New Immigration Laws: PLEASE read to the bottom or you will miss
the message...

10 1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.


2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.
3. All government business will be conducted in our language.
4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here
5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office
15 6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other
government assistance programmes. Any burden will be deported.
7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily
minimum wage.
8. If foreigners come here and buy land..... Options will be restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront
20 property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing,
no bad-mouthing our prime minister or his policies. These will lead to imprisonment and deportation.
10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted & when caught, sent to jail until your
deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you.
25
Too strict?......
The above laws are the current immigration laws of Islamic countries !
These sound fine to me, NOW, how can we get these laws to be our laws??
If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone,
30 Then
YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM!
END QUOTE
What we have is that politicians are abusing and misusing their political positions and by this are
35 the real causes to problems and associated murders/mass murders.
.
The Framers of the Constitution very much accepted multiculturalism but so within the confines
of law that applied to everyone!
40 Hansard 7-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE

Sir EDWARD BRADDON (Tasmania).-I have an amendment to move on behalf of Tasmania, and also an
amendment of my own. The clause we have before us says that a state shall not make any law prohibiting the
free exercise of any religion. It is quite possible that this might make lawfull practices which would otherwise
45 be strictly prohibited. Take, for instance, the Hindoos. One of their religious rites is the "suttee," and
another is the "churruck,"-one meaning simply murder, and the other barbarous cruelty, to the
devotees who offer themselves for the sacrifice.

Dr. COCKBURN.-The Thugs are a religious sect.

Sir EDWARD BRADDON.-Yes. If this is to be the law, these people will be able to practise the rites
50 of their religion, and the amendment I have to suggest is the insertion of some such words as these:-

But shall prevent the performance of any such religious rites, as are of a cruel or demoralizing
character or contrary to the law of the Commonwealth.

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Therefore, it is not the issue of certain people adhere to certain customs/traditions as long as they
do not offend Australian legal provisions. That is what multiculturalism is about. Blocking
streets of for prayers is in my view unlawful as this is interfering unduly with the rights of the
5 travelling public. What therefore should be considered is that multiculturalism is not about
special laws/privileges for some groups to have their so called traditions/customs regardless how
it may harm others but that they can exercise them as long as they blend them into the way
Australia society is. The problem with the political agenda of multiculturalism is that the
politicians desire to harness votes for election purposes and as such then are pursuing special
10 provisions for minor groups against the rights of ordinary Australians.
When then members of such special group which may not necessarily be religious groups but can
be homosexuals, etc, enjoy special privileges then they will go beyond that and in time
politicians will support them. A clear example is that religious freedom is accepted for so far it
suits the politicians agenda. A person who has religious objections to say provide a cake for
15 homosexual purported wedding then arte deprived of their constitutional; rights.
Margaret Court a well-known success story about her tennis career now somehow is attacked for
having her religious views made known to oppose homosexual marriages as to rename the arena
named after her. How on earth can this be within the legal principles embedded in the
20 constitution where a woman who was such a success story now is attacked upon her expressing
her religious views, but not say those who promote killing non-believers, which is part of the
Christian Bible, the Jews Talmud and the Muslims Koran.
The core problem I view is that those involved in religious issues often are preconditioned from
25 childhood that harming and indeed killing in the name of once religion is justified.
.
The hypocrites of Governments to promote against violence while allowing promotion of
violence.
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30 B-ISSUE-Re-Clamping-Down-on-Offensive-Religious-Text-Etc-the-Constitution
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ISSUE: 20170603 - Re Clamping down on offensive religious text, etc & the constitution
35
As a CONSTITUTIONALIST my concern is the true meaning and application of the
constitution.
Considering the content of certain religious books, regardless of which religion it is, referring to
killing, rapes, etc, that in a sense promotes it I view that the parliaments of the
40 commonwealth/states/Territories should ban any such text. Hence legislate that all such books
are returned to its printer for the printer to dispose of them in an appropriate manner and not be
permitted to circulate them anywhere. The irony is that even in the courts Bibles or other
religious books are permitted to be used to swear an oath despite that such books contains vile
and disturbing content. This because the content of those religious books do not matter per se
45 for the making of an oath. The following ought to make it clear that any content in any
religious book that promotes violence, rapes, child abuse, murder, etc contrary to the
legislative provisions of any State can be ordered to be taken from circulation and of personal
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possession as much as pornographic material is prohibited. As long as religions are promoting
vile/violent content in so called religious books they (called religious not for profit
organisations) also such be stripped of any not-for-profit taxation status. It must be deemed
contrary to the interest and wellbeing of society at large for any organisation to spread
5 vile/violent material and as such for this their not-for-profit status must be denied/cancelled.
Hansard 2-2-1898 Constitution Convention Debates (Official Record of the Debates of the National
Australasian Convention)
QUOTE Mr. DEAKIN (Victoria).-
10 The record of these debates may fairly be expected to be widely read, and the observations to which I
allude might otherwise lead to a certain amount of misconception.
END QUOTE
Hansard 7-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE
15 Sir EDWARD BRADDON (Tasmania).-I have an amendment to move on behalf of Tasmania, and
also an amendment of my own. The clause we have before us says that a state shall not make any law
prohibiting the free exercise of any religion. It is quite possible that this might make lawfull practices
which would otherwise be strictly prohibited. Take, for instance, the Hindoos. One of their religious
rites is the "suttee," and another is the "churruck,"-one meaning simply murder, and the other
20 barbarous cruelty, to the devotees who offer themselves for the sacrifice.
Dr. COCKBURN.-The Thugs are a religious sect.
Sir EDWARD BRADDON.-Yes. If this is to be the law, these people will be able to practise the rites
of their religion, and the amendment I have to suggest is the insertion of some such words as these:-
But shall prevent the performance of any such religious rites, as are of a cruel or demoralizing
25 character or contrary to the law of the Commonwealth.
END QUOTE
Hansard 2-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE
Mr. FRASER (Victoria).-I think that if we give the right to an infinitesimal minority to come here
30 and indulge in extraordinary practices, under the pretence that this is a new religion, we may have all
the theatres and all the music-halls in Australia open on Sundays. If that is possible we ought to do
what we can to provide against it.
Mr. HIGGINS (Victoria).-I want if I can to recommend the Commonwealth Bill and get it carried.
But why should we be faced with this difficulty? You have put in the preamble a religious recital which
35 is not in the Constitution of the United States of America, but you have not put in the safeguard against
religious intolerance which they have there. I ask honorable members how I shall face that difficulty?
There is a grave suspicion evidenced by what I said that there were 36,000 distinct signatures upon this
very point. I do not think it is too much for me to say that we ought to reassure those persons. They
may be wrong. It may be right, as my friend (Mr. Barton) says, that there is no power by implication in
40 the Commonwealth to pass this law. It may be right as he says, that the Commonwealth ought to have
the power. But I only say that it is a state matter, and it should be left to the states. My honorable
friend (Mr. Fraser), with all respect to him, shows the current ignorance on this matter because he will
not understand that the state, if my proposal is carried, will have the same power as it has now to stop
any theatrical performances on Sunday.
45 END QUOTE

It must be clear that it doesnt offence the provisions of Section 116 of the Commonwealth of
Australia Constitution Act 1900 (UK) to ban/outlaw any vile/violent material from possession/
circulation/sale. Also it is utter and sheer nonsense for any government to promote non-violence
50 while at the same time allowing vile/violent material under the guise of religion to be possessed,
and/or being spread, etc.
Hansard 7-2-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
QUOTE Mr. HIGGINS.-
55 "religion is ever a matter between God and the individual; the imposing of religious tests hath been the
greatest engine of tyranny in the world."
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The Framers of the Constitution were alert to the misuse and abuse of religious doctrines to
permit unlawful conduct and embedded the legal principle in the constitution that any such
religious doctrines, etc, contrary to the laws would be able to be acted upon. Anyone who has the
demented view that promotion killings, raping of babies, etc, in so called religious books
5 cannot be subjected to laws fails to understand what Section 116 stands for. And politicians who
oppose the removal of such offensive text should resign from Parliament as I view they are unfit
to represent their elect orate appropriately. It ought to be clear that under criminal law anyone not
personally engaged in a murder/rape, etc, but promoting it or even remain inactive to prevent it
can be held legally liable as part of the criminal offence and so politicians better keep in mind
10 that they should face reality and not endorse in anyway the spread of offensive material and/or
the possession of it. The indoctrination of our youth with all this vile/violent material should be
stopped, this as failing to do so will result in them likely growing up with the perception it is all
right to commit those hideous crimes!
15 This correspondence is not intended and neither must be perceived to state all issues/details.
Awaiting your response, G. H. Schorel-Hlavka O.W.B. (Gerrit)
MAY JUSTICE ALWAYS PREVAIL (Our name is our motto!)
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20 As such, scrap all tax concessions for those who are supporting any form of killing of people not
being of their religion and those who spread the word and we might just start making some
progress towards a more tolerant society.
It appears that President Putin held that unless there is an exemption to terrorism laws religious
books can be deemed to be terrorism publications.
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https://www.rt.com/politics/318706-putin-Bible-Koran-law/
QUOTE
Putin proposes law to exempt Bible, Koran from extremism law
30 Published time: 14 Oct, 2015 23:10

Alexey Nikolsky / Reuters


1.2K4
The sacred texts of Russias four established religions will be exempt from being branded
35 incitements to terrorism, if a law proposed by Vladimir Putin is passed. The draft legislation comes
after parts of the Koran were deemed extremist by a regional court.

Citing freedom of religion as a foundation of Russias constitution, the explanatory note attached to
the law states that Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Buddhism are an inseparable part of the historic
legacy of the peoples who inhabit Russia.

40 Thus the Bible, Koran, Tanakh, and Kangyur, their contents and their quotes cannot be classed as
extremist materials.

With Putins United Russia in possession of a majority in both houses of Russias parliament, the
legislation is expected to sail through as an amendment to a 2002 anti-terrorism law.

READ MORE: Chechen lawmaker proposes legal immunity for holy books

45 The proposal closely follows an amendment submitted by Chechen United Russia deputy Shamsail
Saraliev last month.

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I have a principle position on this subject: it is necessary to completely exclude the possibility of court
processes over holy scriptures, once and for all. We all know that there are values that are beyond
time, that have existed before us and will live after we are gone. Holy scriptures of world religions
5 followed by billions of people also fall into the category of such values, State Duma MP Shamsail
Saraliyev (United Russia) told Izvestia daily at the time.

The document was precipitated by a ruling by a judge on the Far East island of Sakhalin, who ruled
that a book entitled Prayer: its meaning and place in Islam contained extremist materials, including
several surahs, or chapters, which are widely repeated by Muslim worshipers.

10 At the time, Saraliev said that the ruling was a sustained attack on Islam itself, while Chechnyas
President Ramzan Kadyrov appealed, calling the people behind the decision devils, who may have
been motivated by outside forces.

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QUOTE Email 8-12-2013


15
On Sunday, 8 December 2013 5:37 PM, Jim <jim.sovereign@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
Some Christians may not like reading and contemplating the following information. I would like to know
how the Christians would try to explain and justify these excerpts from the Bible. Many have found this
book to be full of contradictions, hypocrisy, ambiguity, double standards and inconsistencies, yet it is
20 supposed to be "holy" and the "inspired word of God."

In my view the Bible like the Koran is clearly an instrument of mind control written by spiritually
unenlightened humans who seeked power and control over others. I cannot imagine God would ever endorse
such a ridiculously flawed and primitive book as accurately and truthfully representing the Creator's will and
25 thoughts.

Ask yourself if it's rational that the Bible, Koran, Jewish Torah, Hindu Vedas or any other human religious
text is the best that God can do in communicating "his" infinite knowledge and wisdom to humanity?

30 Jim

Rape In The Bible

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Posted on November 22, 2013 by admin in Parenting, Philosophy

Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often
condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that
40 allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured
around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.

So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and
preachers dont want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references
45 to taking a wife. Dont be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first
quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to take these wives.

1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)


50
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there,
including women and children. This is what you are to do, they said. Completely destroy all the
males and every woman who is not a virgin. Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four
hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at
55 Shiloh in the land of Canaan .

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The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living
at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred
women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not
5 enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this
gap in the tribes of Israel . So the Israelite leaders asked, How can we find wives for the few who
remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the
survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own
daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will
10 fall under Gods curse.

Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and
Bethel , along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of
Benjamin who still needed wives, Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come
15 out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be
your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, Please be
understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didnt find enough wives for them when we
destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your
daughters in marriage to them. So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped
20 the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own
inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by
tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.

Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick bastards killed and raped an entire
25 town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more.
How can anyone see this as anything but evil?

2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)


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They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All
five of the Midianite kings Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba died in the battle. They also killed
Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and
children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the
35 towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and
captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to
the whole community of Israel , which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River,
across from Jericho .

40 Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the
camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle.
Why have you let all the women live? he demanded. These are the very ones who followed
Balaams advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor . They
are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORDs people. Now kill all the boys and all the
45 women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep
them for yourselves.

Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.

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3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)

As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your
terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if
55 they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your
God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the
women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the
LORD your God has given you.

60 What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?

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4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty
5 pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and
he will never be allowed to divorce her.

What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.

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5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you
shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she
15 did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors
wife.

It is clear that God doesnt give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the
violation of another mans property.
20
6) Davids Punishment Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and Gods Forgiveness (2 Samuel
12:11-14 NAB)

25 Thus says the Lord: I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your
wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your
wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence
of all Israel , and with the sun looking down.
Then David said to Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord. Nathan answered David: The Lord
30 on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by
this deed, the child born to you must surely die. [The child dies seven days later.]

This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely
innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And
35 then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!

7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

40 When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your
hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so
enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But
before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captives
garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with
45 her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your
liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave
her, since she was married to you under compulsion.

Once again God approves of forcible rape.


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8) Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)

They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of
55 dyed cloth as Siseras spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)

9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

60 When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men
are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.

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But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.
And if the slave girls owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave
girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he
may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these
5 three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

10 Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather
all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women
ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the
city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)

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Re: Out Of The Blue | The Lord's Prayer Written By A 15 Year Old...
People

Jim <jim.sovereign@optusnet.com.au>
5
Today at 16:23 (31-5-2017)

To

Jim

Message body
10

Religious beliefs have no place in a secular public school system. If Christians were
allowed to invoke their Lords prayer in school then the Muslims, Jews, Buddhists,
Hindus etc. would protest, scream religious discrimination and demand equality and
their right to pray in school. Inevitably religious arguments and conflicts would break
15 out between students, their parents and possibly teachers. Schools should remain
religiously neutral and focus on the education of facts and knowledge, not religious
beliefs.

Jim

---------- Forwarded message ----------


20 From: Alec
Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2017 8:17 PM
Subject: FW: Out Of The Blue | The Lord's Prayer Written By A 15 Year Old...

Yes, the wording is exactly what this country has become perhaps we should start a
rebellion and get rid of the rot that is setting in by the political correctness rubbish it is
25 great that the young are starting to see the wrongs caused by our Politicians past and
Present by the sheer inaction .

If you agree with this Lords Prayer please pass it on.

Have a nice day

Regards

30 Alec

To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Fwd: Out Of The Blue | The Lord's Prayer Written By A 15 Year Old...

Truer words never spoken. And so skilfully expressed by this very young person.

I think the world really has gone mad. Weird and bad behavior is accepted as the norm
35 these days,

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but those things that are uplifting and promote good values are often ignored, rejected
or banned.

Crazy. And very sad.

5 Lord's Prayer

By a 15-year-old school kid who got an A+ for this entry

The Lord's Prayer is not allowed in most U.S. Public schools any more.
A kid in Minnesota, wrote the following...

NEW School Prayer

10 Now I sit me down in school


Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.

15 If scripture now the class recites,


It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.

20 Our hair can be purple, orange or green,


That's no offense; it's a freedom scene..
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.

25 For praying in a public hall


Might offend someone with no faith at all.
In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the State.

We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,


30 And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks...
They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.

We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,


35 And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King.
It's 'inappropriate' to teach right from wrong,
We're taught that such 'judgments' do not belong..

We can get our condoms and birth controls,


40 Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles...
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But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.

It's scary here I must confess,


5 When chaos reigns the school's a mess.
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!
Amen
END QUOTE
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/05/london-bridge-attack-latest-gunshots-heard-police-launch-fresh/
London Bridge attack latest: Terrorists named as police say they were not
under surveillance as they posed 'low risk'
QUOTE
15 Chris Loe 6 Jun 2017 7:28AM

These attacks, if it is in France, Germany or UK wake bad memories and deep emotions.When I was a child a killer entered my school in
Germany and shot / killed people, mainly children.(Eppstein, 3/6/1983) When a killing happens you don't think about the background or reason of
the attack. You are not killed you end up being shocked and traumatised, often for lifetime. I had kind of "erased" what happened at the time. ( I
was only a few classrooms away from the killing, heard the shooting, the shouts, nearly fell over the body of a dead teacher when allowed to leave
20 the classroom) Even if a schoolkilling is different to a terrorist attack they still have one thing in common: someone turns up and just kills people
!!!! The killer(s) don't aim someone specifically, he/they just kill. These killings wake so much emotion in me as well as being revolted. Over time
those who were wounded, those who were eye/ and or ear witnesses are forgotten. Has anyone ever found an article about "those who where
there" and how they live with what they lived? This "Aftermath" ends when all names of the dead and wounded are revealed and some analysing
of the killer(s) was done.
25 There is no following afterwards. PS: English is only my 3rd language.

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EU Slayer 6 Jun 2017 7:26AM

Jezza wants the 20,000 police back to arrest anyone criticising Islam or displaying signs or thoughts of Islamophobia.

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Pierre Sauvon 6 Jun 2017 4:24PM

@EU Slayer Yes indeed. And May's proposals off late have been designed to crack down on ALL belief systems--spies in Sunday Schools that
may be teaching from 1 John 4 or Galatians 1 and the warnings against the false prophet. Or worse, any Biblical views on marriage! PC May
35 needs to be replaced. Soon.

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Michael Harvey 6 Jun 2017 6:56AM

This is islam: Now add Manchester, London England

40 The Westminster London attacker was a muslim


The Jerusalem Truck driver was a muslim
The Ft. Lauderdale Airport shooter was a muslim
The German Christmas market truck driver was a muslim
The Russian Ambassador in Turkey was killed by a muslim
45 The Cairo Church Bombing was by a muslim
The Ohio State Deadly Driver / Knife Attacker was muslim
The Bagram suicide bomber was a muslim
The Plane crash in Connecticut near the Pratt & Whitney plant was by a muslim
The Paris Police Officer Burnings were done by muslims
50 The Brussels police stabber was a muslim
The Washington Mall shooter was muslim
The NYC/NJ bomber was a muslim
The Minnesota knife attacker was a muslim
The Penn Station, New York Hatchet / Cleaver attacker was a muslim
55 The York University stabbing in Canada was by a muslim
The Medan, Sumatra axe slasher attempted bomber was a muslim
The Oberhausen stabbings in Germany was by a muslim
The Australia stabbing murderer was a muslim
The Roanoke Virginia knife attacker was a muslim
60 The Strasbourg Rabbi attacker was a muslim

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The Roethis, Austria Train attacker was muslim
The Swiss Train attacker and arsonist was a muslim
The Belgian machete attacker was a muslim
The London knife attacker was a muslim
5 The Belgian Priest stabbing was done by a muslim
The Ansbach, Germany bomber was a muslim
The Reutlingen, Germany machete killer was a muslim
The Munich Shooters were muslim
The French Family knife attacker was a muslim
10 The German Train axe attacker was a muslim
The Baton Rouge Shooter was a muslim i.e. Nation of islam
The Nice, France Truck Driver was a muslim
The Dallas Shooter may have been a muslim, reports vary
The Orlando Shooter was a muslim
15 The San Bernardine Shooters were muslims
The French nightclub Shooters were muslims
The Shoe Bomber was a muslim
The Beltway Snipers were muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a muslim
20 The underwear Bomber was a muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were muslims
The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were muslims
The London Subway Bombers were muslims
25 The Moscow Theatre Attackers were muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by muslims
30 The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by musiims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were muslims
35 The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were muslims
The first World Trade Center Bombers were muslims
The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were muslims
40 The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were muslims'
Think about it, there is a connection with islam and muslims killing people?
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50 Let terror criminal rot in prison, Attorney-general George Brandis says
JUNE 6, 201710:13PM

AUSPOL: Attorney General Condemned for Failing to Forward Letter From Sydney Siege Gunman to ASIO
May 251:15

55 Labor condemned the attorney-general on May 25 for failing to forward a letter sent from the Sydney Siege
gunman two months before the attack. The evening before on May 24, Attorney-General George Brandis was
questioned on why his department failed to forward letter from gunman Mans Haron Monis that requested
legal advice on contacting the Islamic State group. The letter was considered a red flag by the NSW coroner,
who conducted the Lindt Cafe Siege inquest. While he did not attribute blame to any particular persons or
60 department, he said ASIO not having the letter was consequential. In this video, the Shadow Attorney-
General Mark Dreyfus condemned Brandis on the floor of the House of Representatives and said it should not
have taken Brandis more than two years own up to the ?failure?. Credit: Australian Parliament House via
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ASHLEIGH GLEESONThe Daily Telegraph

CRIMINALS with links to terrorism should be kept locked up under tougher parole laws, Attorney-General
George Brandis says.

Mr Brandis last night said there should be a presumption against a criminal getting parole if they had a link to
5 terror.

It is very important that when parole judge decisions are made by state parole boards, a fact that a person
may have had a terrorism background or been involved in terror related activity albeit years in the past,
should be taken into account, he told Sky News.

And there should be a presumption against people who answer that description.

10 Last night Mr Brandis confirmed that ASIO wasnt watching Khayre before the attack despite his criminal
histories because of a lack of resources.Source:AAP

Mr Brandis comments follow Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull flagging that he will ask states to ban parole
for violent offenders when he meets with the premiers on Friday.

Mr Turnbull yesterday questioned why Yacqub Khayre was released on parole at the time of Mondays terror
15 attack given his extensive criminal history and his links to terrorism.

Mr Turnbull, who will lead the Council of Australian Governments in Hobart later this week, said the issue of
parole was an extremely high priority.

I have raised these today with the Victorian Premier, whom I called last night and I called again this
morning, Mr Turnbull said.

20 How was this man on parole? He had a long record of violence. A very long record of violence. He had been
charged with a terrorist offence some years ago and had been acquitted.

There have been too many cases of people on parole committing violent offences of this kind.

Justice Minister Michael Keenan agreed, saying violent offenders should not be out on parole

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Again:
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criminal histories because of a lack of resources.
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No matter how much money is pumped into any intelligent agencies and for that any other
Department they will always claim insufficient funding. What a cop out.
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I have raised these today with the Victorian Premier, whom I called last night and I called again this
10 morning, Mr Turnbull said.

How was this man on parole? He had a long record of violence. A very long record of violence. He had been
charged with a terrorist offence some years ago and had been acquitted.

There have been too many cases of people on parole committing violent offences of this kind.

Justice Minister Michael Keenan agreed, saying violent offenders should not be out on parole

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In my understanding parole is so that the convicted person can leave the prison system but
under conditions to do so and remains supervised by special appointed persons. As such, it is an
ability to make sure that during the time the sentence is still applicable the person can be
20 subjected to checking.
If the person serves his time and then is released there is no way to check this persons doing. As
such, parole might be deemed in the interest of the community.
What appears to be the problem is not the convicted criminal being on parole but that the parole
Board was not provided with sufficient details (such as by ASIO, etc) to judge if parole was ort
25 should have been granted. This is where the politicians themselves appears to be at fault for not
getting their act together. Premier Daniel Andrews is all over the community about the Bourke
Street mall incident but obviously always ignore or deliberately omits that he might have been
able to prevent it had he acted upon my warnings. Now about a year later going on about Nice
and that bollards are important hardly is underlined by his own lack of action of the past and the
30 resulted killing of 6 human beings, besides the more than 2 dozen injured.
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10 cairnsnews posted: "Islam is a total system of life Here is a perspective by Dr. Peter Hammond. Dr.
Hammond's doctorate is in Theology. He was born in Capetown in 1960, grew up in Rhodesia and
converted to Christianity in 1977. Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book"
Allah is coming to get you
by cairnsnews

Islam is a total system of life


Here is a perspective by Dr. Peter Hammond. Dr. Hammond's doctorate is in Theology. He
15 was born in Capetown in 1960, grew up in Rhodesia and converted to Christianity in 1977.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: "Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots
and Contemporary Threat" - Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a
complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam religion at work assimilating

20 Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious
component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious
privileges. When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim
demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

25 Here's how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 3% in any given country, they will
be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other
citizens. This is the case in:

United States -- Muslim 2%

30 Australia -- Muslim 2.5%

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Canada -- Muslim 2.8%

Norway -- Muslim 2.8%

China -- Muslim 2.9%

Italy -- Muslim 2.5%

5 At 3% to 8%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups,
often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

This happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 5%

Germany -- Muslim 6.7%

10 United Kingdom -- Muslim 7.7%

Spain -- Muslim 8%

Thailand -- Muslim 7.6%

From 8% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the
population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic
15 standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase
pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for
failure to comply.

This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 12%

20 Philippines -- 9%

Sweden -- Muslim 8%

Switzerland -- Muslim 8.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 8.5%

Trinidad& Tobago -- Muslim 10.8%

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At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves
(within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to
establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 15% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means
5 of complaint about their conditions.

In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results
in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and
films about Islam.

Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

10 Guyana -- Muslim 15%

India -- Muslim 19.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 18%

Russia -- Muslim 21%

15 After reaching 25%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic
killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia
warfare, such as in:

20 Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non- believers of all other religions
(including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law
25 as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

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Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and
even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim,
5 such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

10 Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

15 Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace.. Here there's
20 supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrassas are the only schools,
and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

25 Yemen -- Muslim 100%

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Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims
intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a
variety of reasons

'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me
5 and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against
the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris, 'The Haj'

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations,
such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100%
Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these
10 ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such
situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend
madrassas. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime
punishable with death.

Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more
15 power than the national average would indicate.

Today's 2 billion Muslims make up 28% of the world's population. But their birth rates dwarf
the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will
exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century
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While the wav e of terrorism is currently much associated with the Muslim religion (Islam) we
must never overlook that the Christians and others likewise perpetrated such evil of mass killing
in the past.
25 http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/mosul-schools-reopen-after-islamic-state-occupation-
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Life After Islamic State'They Taught Us How To Decapitate a Person'

For over two years, Islamic State controlled the Iraqi city of Mosul, including its
30 schools. Now that the U.S.-led coalition has pushed the Islamists out, the city's
teachers face a dilemma: How do you reshape the minds of children who were
taught to fight and kill?

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Terrorists can be turned around - here's how


OPINION
The Drum
40 By Clarke Jones
Posted 8 Oct 2014, 8:13amWed 8 Oct 2014, 8:13am

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De-radicalising violent extremists and convincing them to turn away from terrorism is no easy task. So what could an
intervention program look like in Australia? Clarke Jones writes.

To meet the Islamic State (IS) threat at home, the Australian Government must focus on developing ways to disengage
and even de-radicalise supporters and returning foreign fighters - recognising that the latter is the most challenging.

5 And, contrary to popular belief, it isn't all about religious extremism.

De-radicalisation is a complex task. This is underscored by the fact that there is no standard definition of the process. The
most common understanding is psychological disengagement or "the process of abandoning an extremist worldview and
concluding that it is not acceptable to use violence" to effect social or political change.

Disengagement, on the other hand, refers to "reducing or ceasing physical involvement in radical or violent activities".

10 Not all of those sympathetic to IS go on to become violent extremists, nor is every pathway to radicalisation the same.
Intervention efforts therefore need to be tailored to individuals and recognise the factors that led to radicalisation in the
first place.

In Australia, we have seen some common pathways to radicalisation.

Whether through social media, the internet or other social networks, IS has managed to reach out to disaffected or
15 disenfranchised Muslim youth with a promise of fulfilling their need for security against real or perceived threats.
It has provided them with supposed attainable goals, a clearer path or purpose in life, as well as a sense of
belonging and identity.

For some, being first-generation and belonging to an ethnic minority has been a frustrating experience. They have
watched fathers work low-paid, unrewarding and unskilled jobs, often absent from home for long periods. Many
20 have been left to their own devices without guidance or direction from a positive role model. For those in
dysfunctional families, neglect and, at times, abuse by fathers may have led to mental illness. Some fathers have
themselves been left frustrated and struggling for community acceptance ever since arriving in Australia.

Other young people have been subject to stringent parenting, where 'foreign' culture and strict religious
observance has been enforced. This kind of upbringing has conflicted with Australia's more secular outlook, often
25 leaving them marginalised and in a bemused, helpless or frustrated state.

For some, simply identifying as IS supporters has given them a feeling of elevation in their social standing among friends
and community. It has, in their minds, made them strong and invincible.

As we can see, there is no single pathway to radicalisation - it follows that it cannot be addressed in a 'one size fits all'
intervention program.

30 If there is a common thread, it is a lack of connection to mainstream Australian society. The Australian Government
therefore must accept that we have failed this section of our younger generation.

It will be challenging to redirect those who identify with the IS ideology from violent extremism. Any program to redirect
or divert young people must have realistic objectives, the most critical being to disengage IS supporters from violence
rather than de-radicalise them.

35 Most discussion on developing intervention programs generally revolves around correctional settings, so the concept of
community-based intervention programs is still in its infancy.

So far, correctional intervention programs around the world - Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Indonesia, Egypt, Malaysia,
Singapore, and Morocco, for example - have had mixed success, tending to concentrate on the religious dimensions of
radicalisation rather than other underlying causes. In many Australian cases, the religious foundations to radicalisation
40 seem to be very shallow.

While overseas programs have been studied, it is difficult to assess their level of success due to a lack of reliable data and
the inability to keep track of disengaged or de-radicalised prisoners once released.

The most commonly cited de-radicalisation program is in Saudi Arabia, which has influenced many overseas programs,
and illustrates the complexities of implementing and validating intervention initiatives.

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The well-funded program helps terrorist offenders abandon their ideologies by attempting to cognitively dissuade them
from violent extremist beliefs. It also involves family support and offers other more pragmatic reintegration initiatives
such as organising marriages, housing and employment.

Terrorist recidivism remains a reality of most programs. However, just because a program or element of a program is
5 seemingly effective in one country, it may not be in another. Therefore, the Australian Government must work on cultural
and religiously sensitive solutions to Australia's social problems.

So what could an intervention program look like?

Returnees who have broken Australian law will undoubtedly enter the judicial system and, once convicted, could undergo
a prison-based program. Not all will come back as more hardened terrorists. There will be some that have already
10 disengaged from supporting IS because they have been disillusioned by what they witnessed in Syria or Iraq. In carefully
constructed programs, these returnees could prove useful if encouraged to dissuade others from supporting IS.

For supporters who stayed at home, the main objective is to divert them from police attention and the courts.

The first step of any diversionary strategy would be to see participants undergo some form of psychological or social
counselling where issues could be discussed and explored. In extreme cases, psychiatric care may be necessary.

15 From counselling, individual intervention plans could be created in consultation with family, religious and non-radical
social groups. This would help create or consolidate a sense of community, family and social attachment, which must
outweigh IS's charismatic influence. Ideally participation should be voluntary; however, in many cases compulsory
attendance may be necessary.

Depending on individual needs, intervention could include meaningful vocational programs and better opportunities for
20 education. Greater access to sporting programs could also provide platforms for change through positive role modelling
and, for others, outlets for artistic and musical expression could also be beneficial. Religious re-education may also be
necessary for some, but it should not represent the main thrust.

The most critical element of any intervention effort will be the amount of individual attention given to each participant.
Anecdotal evidence from overseas programs suggest that "fostering mentoring relationships" between participants and
25 program officials is likely to develop trust and increase the chances of success or reducing recidivism.

Responsibility for intervention programs should rest with governments and not just with Muslim community groups or
religious leaders. But for these programs to have any chance of working, we, as the Australian community, must also
acknowledge that cultural and religious diversity are integral parts of our national identity.

Dr Clarke Jones is a visiting fellow at the Regulatory Institutions Network, ANU College of Asia and the Pacific where he
30 researches terrorism and radicalisation. He has more than 15 years' experience working for Australian government in
national security. View his full profile here.

Topics: terrorism, defence-and-national-security

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Daniel O'Neill, 23, is among the injured recovering in hospital.

40 His mother, Elizabeth O'Neill, said he had a seven-inch scar running from his belly to his back
after being stabbed my a man saying "this is for my family, this is for Islam".

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The problem appears to be with the London Bridge case is one of the terrorist allegedly seeking
revenge for his family. I do not know anything about this terrorist but it may well be that he had
family killed being by the so called Coalition of the Willing into Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya or
whatever and well now was doing a payback.
5 I oppose any killing of a human being but I can UNDERSTAND that where we had our
politicians authorising mass murder, etc, then where they were not held legally accountable then
those aggrieved may set out to provide their own form of justice.
The message might be that we better have coronial inquest and a Royal commission into the
unconstitutional invasion into Iraq and the associated mass-murder, crimes against humanity, war
10 crimes, etc.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/money/costs/centrelink-debt-drove-man-to-suicide-says-family/news-
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15
Not long ago I read a story where a woman committed suicide because her 8 year old son had
died from leukaemia. She just didnt want to live anymore without the son she so much adored.
People therefore may decide to commit suicide for numerous different reasons, and likewise
20 pursue murder and even mass murder likewise.
Competent politicians do not go about using this to make a political stand, Like Foreign Minister
Julie Bishop upon the killing of the 12 year old Melbourne Schoolgirl while visiting her
grandfather in Iraq as an ice cream parlour that the federal government is for this fighting
25 terrorism, as in real terms as I view it Julie Bishop was one of the terrorist to authorise the armed
unconstitutional murderous invasion claiming WMD (Weapons of mass Destruction) etc , and
well the by-product of this is Islamic state and the avalanches of murders including in the
commonwealth of Australia.
30 THE CONSTITUTION BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE! THE ENEMY IS WITHIN!
I understand that Premier Daniel Andrews now proposes a mobile black-out during any
suspected terrorism. I wonder if he is to be the most intelligent person in the parliament with zero
intelligence, as with the Lindt Caf siege it were mobile phones that to some degree assisted the
35 authorities. So cutting of all mobile communication, and what if such a siege last for hours or
days, means most business be crippled and well anyone in an emergency may also be unable to
seek assistance.
I also understand that Premier Daniel Andrews has another so called brain bubble that he pursues
40 a Federal Prison, etc, to be agreed to by the Premiers and the Prime Minister. Just that the legal
principles embedded in the constitution is that the States are to provide for the detention of
federal prisoners. As quested above Mr Wise made it very clear why have the elaborate
constitutional provisions and just leave it to the Ministers to decide! What it means is that
politicians should understand the constitution belongs to the People and they are the enemy
45 within when they pursue unconstitutional arrangements knowing that the courts will flaunt the
constitutional limitations to serve the so to say political masters.
.
It is not within the powers of a State Parliament to give away legislative powers and let alone
judicial powers. Section 123 of the constitution requires a State referendum.
50 .
What seems to be a considerable problem but to which Premier Daniel Andrews seems to not
have a clue about, is that there appears to be absolutely no proper assessment as to where a
prisoner should be placed. When you have a custodian father for example imprisoned for

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CONTEMPT OF COURT together with mass murderers then surely the way prisoners are
dumped in the prison system seeks questions to be answered.
If Premier Daniel Andrews spend as much time having his brain working as he does with his
mouth and actually do something positive to prevent harm then he might just be more respected.
5 .
We must not accept that those promoting Jihad (religious or otherwise) should be mixed with
young and vulnerable prisoners who easily can be influenced.
What needs to be looked at is why anyone commit a crime. What group of people are more likely
10 to commit murder and what group more likely to commit mass-murder.
As I indicated previously:
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Mr ANDREWS (Mulgrave) - It is a pleasure to speak in support of the Safe Drinking Water Bill. This bill forms part of the
government's strategic approach to water management, with specific attention being paid to water quality and risk
management as matters of public health. It is worth noting that this is a debate about public health and about making sure
20 that each community across our state has access to the highest quality water. It is also worth noting that this bill has been
introduced by the Minister for Health as a matter of public health.

The bill has four specific objectives. Before going on to those I welcome the support shown by the Liberal and National
parties for this bill. Every endeavour has been made to try to provide as much information as possible.
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25
Why then that we turning tomorrow into 2015 it is that 14 years later we still have large parts of
Victoria without safe drinking water?
In fact it appears there are at least 42 towns that are still denied safe drinking water.
30 As I wrote (on Saturday 10-6-2017) to the Essential Service Commission:

QUOTE
Re: Fw: Your enquiry | Essential
Services Commission
From Mr G. H. Schorel-Hlavka O.W.B.
To water@esc.vic.gov.au
Cc Gerrit Schorel-Hlavka O.W.B.
Reply-To Gerrit Schorel-Hlavka O.W.B.
Date Today 02:35
35

Lucy,

it should be understood that when one resides in a country area and not everyone has a tank as a
40 water supply, then any woman with as baby would be stuck to use "untreated" water to wash a baby.
Now, I do not know if you ever had to bath a baby but it certainly is taking a lot of water over the
whole day, every day. Imagine having to purchase bottled water for this. Mothers in their misgivings
will boil the water, but the Department of Health itself makes clear on its website that boiling
untreated water will not get rid of the chemicals in it. there is a lot of misconception in the community
45 that boiling "untreated" water somehow does the trick to have it usable for drinking, washing a baby,
etc. They simply are not aware that they do not get rid of the poisonous chemicals in it.

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No use to argue that it is not an issue because from the U.S.A one can learn that this becomes a very
big issue, so to say once the cat is let out of the bag and it is found that mass poisoning went on all
along but no one bothered to address this issue.

If anything the Friskeville water poisoning of fire fighters should be a warning that the same now can
5 be eventuating in the Mallee with the "untreated" water where also women washing the firefighters
clothing also can suffer as result ill health.

Gerrit

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MAY JUSTICE ALWAYS PREVAIL
107 Graham Road
Viewbank 3084, Victoria, Australia

15 Author of INSPECTOR-RIKATI books on certain constitutional and other legal


issues.

THE MORAL OF A SOCIETY CAN BE MEASURED BY HOW IT PROVIDES FOR THE DISABLED

20 On 2017-06-09 14:59, water@esc.vic.gov.au wrote:

Dear Mr Schorel-Hlavka

Thank you for your patience with this matter.


I will forward a written response to your email during next week.
25
Kind regards

Lucy Weston
Project Manager, Customer Engagement, Water
30
----- Forwarded by Lucy Weston/ESC on 09/06/2017 02:57 PM -----

From: Water/ESC
35 To: "admin" <admin@inspector-rikati.com>
Date: 05/06/2017 12:20 PM
Subject: Your enquiry | Essential Services Commission
Sent by: Lucy Weston

40
Dear Mr Schorel-Hlavka

Thank you for your email dated 11 May 2017.

45 We are still working through the issues you raised and will contact you again later
in the week.

Kind regards

50 Lucy Weston
Project Manager, Customer Engagement, Water

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My uncle died in 1991 within about 12 hours after arriving in Berriwillock and drinking the
water there. At the time no consideration was given if his death was associate with the
untreated water and likely numerous other deaths and illnesses never may have been associated
with this. It is simply we do not have a responsible Government but politicians who are in it to
5 retire within a millionaire club and are willing to do whatever for their personal benefits.
I view Mr Daniel Andrews is a clear example to ignore what he stated to the parliament in 2003
while now being Premier.
.
We have a major disaster on our hands of people going about killing, such as on 20 January
10 2017, and the politicians seeking to use every opportunity to promote themselves rather than to
deal with the core issues why such mass killings are taking place.
The NSW coroner didnt attach blame for the failure to pass on a letter that then was in
possession of the Attorney-General and this is why we continue to have escalating problems, as
politicians will so to say be left of the hook of any responsibility and merry go about their
15 modus operandi to ignore their responsibilities.
.
I do not accept that ASIO or for that the Australian federal Police have any authority to operate
within any State jurisdiction as set out in previous writings and so need to repeat it all again.
We need to have a proper structure in place where a responsible Minister is held responsible
20 as then we might get a more hands-on responsible Minister who will be on the job to ensure it
is all proceeding as legally required.
The coroner can ignore this and let them off the hook and well ensure further corpses to arrive in
the morgue as result. Then the coroner will be part of the problem.
.
25 When any of our female Ministers attend to a Middle East country they don a shawl or
something else and claim that this is a matter of courtesy to the host country. I have no issue with
this if the same is applied to others entering the Commonwealth of Australia that they show their
faces in public, as ordinary is between people.
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull reportedly claimed none of the Australian home-grown
30 terrorist would be entitled to enter back into Australia. Well many in the dozens are walking free
around in Australia since! And this is another problem we have that politicians are undermining
the governments authority by making claims and then caving in.
.
We have a constitution and it is a darn good constitution just that we got politicians who are
35 more interested in their own political future then to conduct themselves as permitted within the
provisions of the constitution.
.
Federal Prisons are not an option without an amendment of the constitution and I view even with
an amendment to the constitution (not that I seek to imply this will eventuate) then it still will not
40 and cannot resolve the real issues as the core problems are remaining to be left untouched.
We have soldiers buried into the ground who lost their lives not for the good of the country but
for the selfish egoistic interest of the politicians wanting to dictate other countries their internal
affairs. Well, by this you will upset a lot of people doing so and can expect some form of
45 retaliation. And those who are already unstable/vulnerable as to live a life may then be attracted
to join in what is referred to being a Jihad regardless that it may not be their religious belief but
simply a way to attract attention where they intent to die anyhow.
The various Parliaments can have host of other draconic legislative provisions that turn a State
50 even more into a Police State but it will not resolve one of iota the very reasons why people
commit murder/mass murder. It are the politicians who are the very cause of this violence when
claiming to make the World a Safer Place when in fact doing precisely the opposite. Yet, none of
them were held legally accountable, whereas if I did the same to say my neighbour I quick smart

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be looking though bars in a prison. And this underlined s the judiciary has so to say sold us out.
This I view the High Court of Australia did when refusing to accept my s75(v) of the constitution
application. As after all it could have prevented the entire mass-murder of innocent people in Iraq
and Islamic State and its supporters may never have existed.
5
We have a Federal Government hell bend on stating the course with the USA to allegedly defeat
Islamic state! Well?
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June 7, 2017June 7, 2017 renegade 1 Comment
By Rachel Blevins

15 After an audit from the Department of Defense revealed that the Pentagon couldnt account
for over $1 billion in weapons and equipment that was meant for fighters in Iraq, the
question remains: Did ISIS gain $1 BILLION in weapons and equipment as a result?

The September 2016 audit was declassified after the human rights organization Amnesty
International filed a Freedom of Information Act request. It revealed that the Pentagon did
20 not have accurate, up-to-date records on the quantity and location of the majority of the
equipment that was meant for the Iraqi Train & Equip Program.

The missing equipment came from the $1.6 billion budget Congress allocated for the
program in 2015. The budget was approved in the name of fighting the Islamic State of
Iraq & Syriaa group of militants that didnt exist until nearly a decade after the United
25 States invaded Iraq in 2003.

It should be noted that a report from Amnesty International in December 2015 claimed that
ISIS had an extensive arsenal consisting of the same U.S.-made weapons that were
intended for its oppositionthe Iraqi Army and moderate rebel groups in Syria.

Patrick Wilcken, Amnesty Internationals arms control and human rights researcher,
30 acknowledged the troubling pattern that was once again reaffirmed in the latest audit.

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This audit provides a worrying insight into the US Armys flawedand potentially
dangeroussystem for controlling millions of dollars worth of arms transfers to a
hugely volatile region, Wilcken said. It makes for especially sobering reading given
the long history of leakage of US arms to multiple armed groups committing atrocities in
5 Iraq, including the armed group calling itself the Islamic State.

Amnesty also noted that the audit shed light on the Department of Defenses failure to
track the equipment after it was delivered to ensure that it arrived in the hands of the army,
despite the fact that the departments Golden Sentry program is mandated to carry out
post-delivery checks.

10 The DoD audit found several serious shortcomings in how ITEF


equipment was logged and monitored from the point of delivery onward,
including: Fragmentary record-keeping in arms depots in Kuwait and
Iraq. Information logged across multiple spreadsheets, databases and
even on hand-written receipts; Large quantities of equipment manually
15 entered into multiple spreadsheets, increasing the risk of human error;
And Incomplete records meaning those responsible for the equipment
were unable to ascertain its location or status.
While the report from Amnesty International seemed to cast the blame on the Iraqi Armed
forces for failing to keep up with the equipment, Michel Chossudovsky from the Center for
20 Global Research noted that the Pentagon has been intentionally channeling weapons to
jihadist armed groups as part of carefully designed military agenda with a view to
destabilizing Iraq as a nation state.

Amply documented, the ISIS and other terror groups have been receiving weapons from
both the US and its allies including Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Chossudovsky
25 wrote. And a significant part of the $1.6 billion has been used to finance weapons
shipments to the ISIS, both directly as well as indirectly through third parties.

As The Free Thought Project has reported, a declassified Pentagon report from 2012
proved that the growth and expansion of ISIS was a direct result of arms being sent by
the U.S. to anti-Assad Islamists, with the strategic U.S. intention of toppling the Assad
30 regime in Syria.

When these audits are finally declassified, and the information is released, it is often met
with a media blackout by the mainstream, and the public is distracted with material
nonsense.

Given the fact that another $1 billion in weapons and equipment has seemingly vanished in
35 the volatile region, it is all the more important to remember that while the Pentagon may
never admit it, the idea that the U.S. would intentionally send weapons to militant groups,
in order to influence the political climate in the region is much more than just a
conspiracy. In fact, it is a well-documented phenomenon.

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So our Australian soldiers might end up being killed by so called friendly fire at the hands of
5 Islamic state armed by the USA!
And yet I am not aware a single coroner bothered to hold an inquest as to the death of any
soldier. They simply seem to me not to be worth the time of a coroner.
10 What we need is to get the Commonwealth of Australia and so the States back on track. We must
ensure that all students learn about the true meaning and application of the constitution. That they
are Australians first regardless if they and/or their parents were born in a foreign country.
We must stop this nonsense to compel people to accept homosexual marriages contrary to their
personal views. We must stop social engineering by governments and/or companies to force to
15 accept homosexuality.
As the Framers of the Constitution made clear people are entitled to practice their own religious
views/customs/traditions but so that it doesnt interfere with the rights of others.
We need to get back on track that a court that is to administer justice must be impartial and
independent of the politicians. No more the unconstitutional purported Infringement Court, etc.
20 We have a constitution and it belongs to the People not to the politicians or the courts. And only
if we have politicians and the judiciary showing due and proper respect of the constitution and
what is permitted within the legal principles of it can we expect others to adhere to it.
As I indicated in my 7-6-2017 request for a coronial inquest into the unlawful killing of Mr Carl
Williams we must have a coroner who is willing to investigate all aspects and not is dictated by
25 what I consider a political motivated Victorian Ombudsman to avoid exposing the rot that went
on, even alleged perjury and a $570,000.00 pay-out, etc.
When people lose their trust/confidence into the justice system then they will more than likely
end up taking the law into their own hands, and we have seen the consequences of this!
Hansard 2-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates
30 QUOTE

Mr. FRASER (Victoria).-I think that if we give the right to an infinitesimal minority to come here and
indulge in extraordinary practices, under the pretence that this is a new religion, we may have all the
theatres and all the music-halls in Australia open on Sundays. If that is possible we ought to do what
we can to provide against it.

35 END QUOTE
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QUOTE

Mr. HIGGINS.-That is the question-are those dangers non-existent?

40 Mr. BARTON.-I do not think the fact that we may be held by law to be a Christian community is any
reason for us to anticipate that there will be any longer any fear of a reign of Christian persecution-any fear
that there will be any remnant of the old ideas which have caused so much trouble in other ages. The whole
of the advancement in English-speaking communities, under English laws and English institutions, has shown
a less and less inclination to pass laws for imposing religious tests, or exacting religious observances, or to
45 maintain any religion. We have not done that in Australia. We have abolished state religion in all these
colonies; we have wiped out every religious test, and we propose now to establish a Government and a
Parliament which will be at least as enlightened as the Governments and Parliaments which prevail in various
states; therefore, what is the practical fear against which we are fighting? That is the difficulty I have in
relation to this proposed clause. If I thought there was any-the least-probability or possibility, taking into
50 consideration the advancement of liberal and tolerant ideas that is constantly going on of any of these various
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communities utterly and entirely retracing its steps, I might be with the honorable member. If we, in these
communities in which we live, have no right whatever to anticipate a return of methods which were practised
under a different state or Constitution, under a less liberal measure of progress and advancement; if, as this
progress goes on, the rights of citizenship are more respected; if the divorce between Church and State
5 becomes more pronounced; if we have no fear of a recurrence of either the ideas or the methods of former
days with respect to these colonies, then I do suggest that in framing a Constitution for the Commonwealth of
Australia, which we expect to make at least as enlightened, and which we expect to be administered with as
much intellectuality as any of the other Constitutions, we are not going to entertain fears in respect of the
Commonwealth which we will not attempt to entertain with respect to any one of the states. Now, we have
10 shown that we do not intend these words to apply to our states by striking out clause 109. That might be a
provision that might be held to be too express in its terms, because there may be practices in various
religions which are believed in by persons who may enter into the Commonwealth belonging to other
races, which practices would be totally abhorrent to the ideas, not only to any Christian, but to any
civilized community; and inasmuch as the Commonwealth is armed with the power of legislation in
15 regard to immigration and emigration, and with regard to naturalization, and also with regard to the
making of special laws for any race, except the aboriginal races belonging to any state-inasmuch as we
have all these provisions under which it would be an advisable thing that the Commonwealth, under its
regulative power, should prevent any practices from taking place which are abhorrent to the ideas of
humanity and justice of the community; and inasmuch as it is a reasonable thing that these outrages on
20 humanity and justice (if they ever occur) should be prohibited by the Commonwealth, it would be a
dangerous thing, perhaps, to place in the Bill a provision which would take out [start page 1772] of their
hands the power of preventing any such practices.

Mr. HIGGINS.-Do you think that the Commonwealth has that power under the existing Bill?

Mr. BARTON.-I am not sure that it has not. I am not sure that it has not power to prevent anything
25 that may seem an inhuman practice by way of religious rite.

Mr. HIGGINS.-I want to leave such matters to the states.

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As such, the Commonwealth n or the states should pursue to exclude any religious claimed
writings of murder, rape, etc as being excluded from terrorism laws.
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Mr. HIGGINS.-Then all crimes should be left to the Commonwealth?

Mr. BARTON.-No; because you do not give any power with regard to punishing crime to the
35 Commonwealth, but you do give power to the Commonwealth to make special laws as to alien races; and the
moment you do that the power of making such laws does not remain in the hands of the states; and if you
place in the hands of the Commonwealth the power to prevent such practices as I have described you should
not defeat that regulative power of the Commonwealth. I do not think that that applies at all, however, to
any power of regulating the lives and proceedings of citizens, because we do not give any such power to
40 the Commonwealth, whilst we do give the Commonwealth power with regard to alien races; and
having given that power, we should take care not to take away an incident of it which it may be
necessary for the Commonwealth to use by way of regulation. I have had great hesitation about this
matter, but I think I shall be prevented from voting for the first part; and as to establishing any religion, that is
so absolutely out of the question, so entirely not to be expected-

45 Mr. SYMON.-It is part of the unwritten law of the Constitution that a religion shall not be established.

END QUOTE

Again: I do not think that that applies at all, however, to any power of regulating the lives and proceedings
of citizens, because we do not give any such power to the Commonwealth,

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We find however that the Commonwealth more and more are encroaching upon citizens rights
and flaunt constitutional constraints.
And with all the terrorism legislation we hear about alleged avoided plots, but who can trust
5 these allegations without any substance proven that they were actually terrorist contemplated
events?
A problem that exist is that while the Crimes Act (Cth) makes it an offense to act against a
friendly nation, when however the Federal Government did so against Iraq none of the
politicians were formally charged and legally held accountable. The politicians are the worst
10 offenders and by the reasoning of Attorney-General George Brandis (As I consider them to be
terrorist) should be locked up without ability of parole. They then would get some of their own
deserved medicine!
In the meantime whatever caused the driver on 20 January 2017 to end up killing 6 human beings
15 and injuring more than another 2 dozen people we must not accept any cover up and I view the
coroner must make clear that Premier Daniel Andrews should not have turned the incident in
some political propaganda issue for himself where he could have reasonably acted to avoid likely
it all.
20 THE CONSTITUTION BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE! THE ENEMY IS WITHIN!
A copy of this Submission Supplement 15 will be published on my blog at
www.scribd.com/inspectorrikati,
25 This part submission is not intended and neither must be perceived to set out all issues.
Awaiting your response, G. H. Schorel-Hlavka O.W.B. (Friends call me Gerrit)

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