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LIS
T OF ITEMS

1. Oath or Affirmation
2. Obituary Reference
3. Introduction of New Ministers
4. Question Hour:
101 Aadhar card
102 Food Subsidy
103 Animal Protection
104 Tourism

5. Question introducing a Breach of Privilege

6. Papers to be Laid in the Table
7. Message from the Upper Chamber of Youth Parliament
8. Welcome to the Foreign Delegates
9. Calling Attention Notice
10. Legislative Business
a. First reading- Care and Assistance to Father and Mother Bill
b. Bill for consideration-Electoral Reform Bill,III-2013
11. Adjournment of the House.

KENDRIYA VIDYALAYA ORDNANCE FACTORY DUMDUM

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YOUTH PARLIAMENT 2013

PARTICIPANTS
1. SPEAKER- Atreyee Sur Roy chowdhury, XI C
2. DEPUTY SPEAKER- Shibhasish Biswas, XI A
3. MARSHALL- Kritwish Mondal, X A

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 TREASURY BENCH
4.SECRETARY GENERAL- Aritra Sengupta, X C
5. OFFICE STAFF - Swati Kumari Shaw, XI A
6. OFFICE STAFF - Abhirup Bhattacharjee, X A
7. OFFICE STAFF - Sushmita Samaddar, VIII B

GOVERNMENT
8.PRIME MINISTER- Chandrayee Baidya, X A

9.MINISTER OF FINANCE - Akshita Chatterjee, XI A

10.MINISTER OF HOME AFFAIRS- Arzoo Kumari, XA
11.MINISTER OF FOREST & ENVIRONMENT- Lindia Dutta, XI A
12.MINISTER OF CULTURE- Arijit Saha, IX C
13.MINISTER OF LAW & JUSTICE RuchismitaChakraborty , X A
14.MINISTER OF FOOD & AGRICULTURE - Priti Singh, X B
15.MINISTER OF SOCIAL JUSTICE & EMPOWERMENT-Samiksha Kumari, VIII A
16.MINISTER OF LABOUR (New)- Kashish Thakur, VIII C
17.MINISTER OF COAL & MINES(New)- Shristi Roy, X A
18.MP (NEW)- Baitani Chakraborty, IX A
19.MP (NEW)- Suravita Sen, IX A
20.M.P. - Isha Ghosh, VIII C
21.M.P. - Dipshita Chaudhury, XI A
22.M.P.- Debasmita Ray, XI A
23.M.P. Akash Sarkar, X C
24.M.P.- Tania Tabasum, X B
25.M.P.- Swagata Das, X B
26.M.P.- Tiasa Banerjee, X A
27.M.P.- Shawan Ganguly, X A
28.MINISTER OF FAMILY WELFARE- Roshmita Roy, XI A
29.M.P.- Sonali Mandal, IX B
30.M.P.- Sreejoni Neogi, VIII B
31.M.P.- Srijita Chakraborty, IX A
OPPOSITION BENCH
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32. LEADER OF OPPOSITION - Simron Das, X C
33. M.P. Anwesha Kabniratna, XI A
34. MP:- Jigisha Mishra, VII A
35. M.P Varun Mishra, X A
36. M.P. Pallabi Guha, IX A
37. M.P. Binayak Chanda, X A
38. M.P. Bhawna Manhas, X B
39. M.P. Jyotishree Majhi, IX B
40. M.P. K.M.Sriyanka, IX B
41. M.P. Rajashri Roy, X B
42. M.P. Dishita Roy, X B
43. M.P. Suchandra Paul, X B
44. M.P. Debol Mondal, IX C
45. M.P. Sneha Baidya, VIII A
46. M.P. Dishani Saha, X C
47. M.P. Upali Banerjee, XI A
48. M.P. Anushka Bhattacharjee, X B
FOREIGN DELEGATES
49. Sonia Gond, XI A
50. Sananda Banerjee, XI A
51. Sunil Sahoo, VIII C

PRESS
52. Rajni Kumari, XI A
53. Kajal Sonar , IX B
54. Rajatabh Chakraborty , VIII C

YOUTH PARLIAMENT

{The formal sitting of the youth parliament house begin with the members

occupying their seats and exchanging greetings and pleasantries. The Marshall

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arrives in the house to ensure the quorum and thereafter he makes a

ceremonial announcement heralding the arrival of the speaker}

ekuuh; lHkklnksa ekuuh v/;{k th !

{The members stands in their seats till the Speaker has reached his chair and taken
his seat after bowing to the opposition members first, then to the Treasury members
and at last to the center. The Opposition members and Treasury Bench members also
reciprocate by bowing their heads to the speaker.}

PROCEEDING OF A SITTING

(Mrs. Speaker in Chair)

1.Oath Or Affirmation

Speaker: Member to take the oath or affirmation Secretary General Please.

Secretary General:

Miss Baitani Chakraborty and Miss Surobhita Sen who stands elected from

Nabrangpur Constituency of Odisha and Malda constituency of West Bengal

will now take oath or Affirmation.

Secretary General: (Call out) Miss Baitani Chakraborty

(Miss Baitani Chakraborty proceeds from the place that she is occupying to the

right hand side of the secretary General table and hands over her certificates

of election to the office at the table.)

Secretary General: Madam Baitani Chakraborty do you want to take oath or affirmation?
Miss Sreejoni Basu : Affirmation please.

Secretary General: In which language would youlike to take the affirmation?

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Miss Baitani Chakraborty: In English please

(The secretary General hands over to Miss Baitani Chakraborty a copy of the

form of oath in the language in which she wants to take the affirmation.)

Miss Baitani Chakraborty :

I, Baitani Chakraborty , having been elected a member of the lower House of

the Youth Parliament Solemnly affirm that I will bear true faith and allegiance to

the constitution of India and by law established that I will faithfully discharge the

duty upon which I am about to enter.

(The member then places the affirmation paper on The Table of Secretary General

and shakes hand with the chair. The member then passes behind the chair to

the other side of the Secretary General Table, where she signed the roll of

members. Signing the roll she takes her seat in the House. The MPs welcome

her by thumping on their desk while she shakes hands.)

Secretary General: Miss Surobhita Sen.

Secretary General: Madam Surobhita Sen you want to take oath or affirmation?

Miss Srijita Chakraborty: Oath Please

Secretary General: In which language would you like to take the oath?

Surobhita Sen: Bengali Please.

(Similar process will be adopted once again)

Like the last candidate here also similar steps will be followed

2.OBITUARY REFERENCE

Speaker : Honourable members, as we meet today, it is my duty to inform the

House of the sad demise of Sri.Pran Krishan Sikand Veteran Bollywood actor , who
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was born on February 12 in 1920 in old Delhi and played the dreaded villain and
lovable character with elan, in hits like 'Milan', 'Madhumati', 'Bobby', 'Zanjeer' and
'Ram Aur Shyam', passed away at the age of 93. With Pran's death , we have lost an
actor of rare calibre and sophistication that symbolized his illustrious career". Considered
as one of the most successful actors to portray strong characters of various hues, Pran
ruled the Hindi film industry for several decades and won the admiration of millions of
fans in India and abroad".
Prime Minister:
Madam, I rise to pay my tributes to Sri.Pran Krishan Sikand (Pran). "I am deeply
saddened to learn about the passing away of Shri Pran Krishan Sikand popularly called
,Pran. Shri Pran was a highly talented actor who shall always be remembered by
generations of film watchers for his versatile and vivacious acting in multifarious roles.In
his passing away, the celluloid world has lost a veteran and acclaimed actor, whose
contribution to the Indian film industry remains unparalleled,"

Opposition Party Leader

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Speaker: I request the house to stand in silence for a while to express our deep
sorrow.
(The members then stand in silence for a while)
Secretary General May conveys the message of condolences to the bereaved families.
Secretary General: Yes Madam

3.INTRODUCTION OF NEW MINISTERS:

Speaker: Prime Minister to introduce New Ministers.

Prime Minister:Madam Speaker, I have pleasure in introducing to you, and through you,

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to the house, my colleagues, the new ministers

Miss SHRISTI ROY, Minister of Coal &Mines

(Thumping)
Miss KASHISH THAKUR,Minister of Labour
(Thumping)
(While being introduced each Minister in turn stands with folded hands.The

members greet them by thumping on their desk.)

4.QUESTION HOUR

Speaker: Now the question Hour Begins.

Question no.*101* Shri Varun Mishra

Shri Varun Mishra : , ,
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SPEAKER : Honble Minister of Finance

MINISTER OF FINANCE: Aadhaar is a 12 digit individual identification number issued

by the Unique Identification Authority of India on behalf of the Government of India.This
number will serve as a proof of identity and address, anywhere in India. Each individual
needs to enroll only once which is free of cost. Each Aadhaar number will be unique to
an individual and will remain valid for life. Aadhaar number will help you provide access
to services like banking, mobile phone connections and other government and non-
government services.

b)The Aadhaar Card specifically mentions on its rear side the various purposes for
which it can be used. There need not be any confusion over it. The immediate use of
the UID card could be more visible in case of beneficiaries of various government
schemes. However, in the long run it will serve as a definitive document of one's
identity proof. Whatever confusion prevails over its use will soon be cleared and it
would be in the interest of everyone to get enrolled.

SPEAKER : Shri Varun Mishra ,

Shri Varun Mishra:


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MINISTER OF FINANCE: Madam, as far as the statement of the member is concerned

it is half truth.Yes through an Ordnance it is implemented. Probably my worthy friend
has gone to st.petersberg while the ordnance was promulgated.
Ha ha ha ha ha .....................
SPEAKER : Smt.Tania Tabsum
Smt.Tania Tabsum: Sir, I would like to know while Countries such as UK, Singapore
and Australia considered the idea and abandoned it because of huge expense even for
their small populationsand was not worth the benefits the scheme would bring how the
country like India accepted it? and Why is Aadhaar necessary when we have
NPR(National Citizens Register)?
SPEAKER : MINISTER OF FINANCE:

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MINISTER OF FINANCE:Sir the home policy of a country is guided by its
History,Geographical location and Economic condition of the people.The countries
mentioned by the Honourable member are not sharingsuch a large number of
International boundaries as India is. I can suggest my friend to browse the Internet
today.HA HA HA HA .............
SPEAKER :silence Silence Please...........
MINISTER OF FINANCE:Yes the anxiety regarding NPR the Government of India
initiated the NPR which entails the creation of the National Citizens Register. This
register is being prepared at the local, sub-district, district, state and national level.
database demographic biometric


without Permission
Aadhar Card

SPEAKER :Ms. Pallabi Guha
Pallabi Guha:Madam,Preparation of Aadhar card has been given to private agencies.In
many places like Kolkata, Lucknow, Hyderabad, Pune,Bhopal people are being charged
Rs. 50 each . and in some places on the name of collecting information their personal
datas are are being manipulated or tempered?
MR. SPEAKER : MINISTER OF FINANCE
MINISTER OF FINANCE : The Hon'ble Member has
supplied this information. I will look into it.
Sri Vinayak Chanda: Madam, he may be having the information with him because this
is connected with shortage of food.
MINISTER OF FINANCE: The hon. Member has supplied this information. I am not
aware about this complain. You have supplied this information. I will definitely look into
the matter.
SPEAKER : Next Question : Question No. 102 Ms. Simron Das,Leader Of Opposition

Ms. Simron Das: will the Minister of Agriculture be Pleased to state that :
a) Cheap foodgrains available to about two-thirds of the countrys population at a
price of Rs1/Rs.2 could it cost the exchequer more than double annually than
what the government has projected ?
b) Could the plan cost India dearly?

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 c) Dont the Ministry thinks that Food subsidies will have adverse effects on
agriculture?

SPEAKER : MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE please

MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE: Madam Speaker Answer to the part A & B of the

honourable member :The government has estimated that it will need to budget 1.2
trillion rupees (a little over $22 billion) each year to fund all food subsidies, including
the new ones .Under the food security program, the government plans to distribute five
kilograms of food grains at highly-subsidized rates three rupees a kilo for rice, two
rupees a kilo for wheat, and one rupee a kilo for some other types of foodgrains. At
private stores rice presently costs at least 20-30 rupees per kilo, seven times the
amount it could be purchased for under the programme. So, Iam sure the programme
will wipe out tears from the millions. No body will die of hunger or sell their children for
food.

Answer to the part C of the honourable member An agricultural subsidy is a

governmental subsidy paid to farmers and agribusinesses to supplement their income,
manage the supply of agricultural commodities, and influence the cost and supply of
such commodities. The subsidy programmes give farmers extra money for their crops
and guarantee a price floor. Generally, developing countries have a comparative
advantage in producing agricultural goods

SPEAKER :Ms.K M Sriyanka

Ms.K M Sriyanka :The consequent higher spending on food subsidies would mean the
government would have to make spending cuts elsewhere if it is to keep its fiscal
consolidation plans on track?

SPEAKER : Minister of Agriculture please

Minister of Agriculture:This is the most common-and provably incorrect-justification.

Though I admit in the initial phase it may hurt the people but in the long run govt.
Has made the modusoperandi to overcome. The government has plans to narrow its

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fiscal deficit to 3.0% of gross domestic product in four years, compared with 5.2% in
the financial year .

SPEAKER :Ms.Dipshita Chaudhury

Ms.Dipshita Chaudhury:Whether the system is capable of absorbing the extra demand

at a time of lack of supply and can the Ministry assure quality supply to the people?

SPEAKER : Minister of Agriculture please

Minister of Agriculture: Yes, the concern of the honourable member is genuine. Our
most of the farmers are depending on the gamble of monsoon.In case of failure of
monsoon it will be very difficult to manage. But govt. Has B plans and moreover putting
its finger cross too.

SPEAKER :Ms.Anwesha Kabiratna

Ms.Anwesha Kabiratna:Madam through you I would like to inform honourable minister

and the house that subsidised rate of food grain prices has made the labouring poor
lethargic, parasite and has given boost to alchoholism. Tabbling..............................

I have seen in my constituency how the scarcity of labour started?Many agricultural

land are left uncultivated.

Opposition: In my Constituency.... In my Constituency...

SPEAKER : silence .............silence.....

If proper steps will not been taken at the right moment it would cost dearly to us. Isnt
it madam?

SPEAKER :Honourable minister please

Minister of Agriculture: Madam, Ihave not received such report. Ishall look into the
matter and will let the House know.
Interruption:The storm of rights has forced duties backseat...Friends poors vegetable is
on fire but who cares. ..

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 SPEAKER : Next Question : Question No. 103 Ms. Dishita Roy

Ms. Dishita Roy: Sir, will the Minister of forest and Environment be Pleased to state:
(a) the latest position of numbers of elephants getting killed in locomotive accident
on Railway track in the country ;
(b) Whether keeping in view the present situation. Government have adequate plans
to meet the situation; and
(c) If no, the measures proposed to be taken by Government to deal with the situation?
SPEAKER : MINISTER OF FOREST AND ENVIRONMENT:please

MINISTER OF FOREST AND ENVIRONMENT:Madam Speaker,Iam highly thankful to

the member for his concern towards animal cause. Every animal killed is a great loss
to the Forest, and to its owner. However, the good news is that 2010, 2011 and 2012
all had relatively low numbers of animal deaths (65, 66 and 64) .But by july 2013
already it has been reached to 48.

Debol Mondal: 100 50000

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Speaker: Sri Debol . .

b)About the concern of the govt.

i) The Animal Accident Reduction Group has been formed to improve analysis of the
accident statistics and coordinate the actions of the various organisations involved.

ii) Railways and highways are a source of wildlife mortality throughout

the world.So my ministry has a series of talk with the state govts, Ministry of Railway,
Ministry of Highways and surface transport and NGOs .

iii) Awareness programmes are being organised among the villagers living on the
National Highways and Railway tracts.

iv ministry of Railway has been suggested to instruct the drivers to reduce the speed
and not to cross 30km per hour.

iv) My Ministry has also given proposal to Ministry of Railways and surface transport
to install Elephant repelling system by using infrasonic sound with auto sensor and .

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Advance alert system by using microwave sensors along with radio transmission to
coming by locomotives driver and nearest control room.

SPEAKER :Ms. Srijita Chakraborty

Ms. Srijita Chakraborty :Madam, Will the minister be pleased to state the House the
estimated expenditure for installation of the devices and:

b) by which year the project is going to be completed?

SPEAKER : MINISTER OF FOREST AND ENVIRONMENT:

MINISTER OF FOREST AND ENVIRONMENT:Madam, It is undoubtedly a costly

affair.one set of microwave perimeter sensors cost each s 500 usd, infrasonic sound
device cost 200 usd for each, transmitter and reciver each set 250 usd , infrared
sensor switch 150 usd each set , thermal camera to watch in the dark and record the
animal behavior 5000 usd.each.so all total 2000 billion dollar amount is needed.

Moreover as three different ministries are involved so it will take some time. MyMinistry
has a target to complete it by 2020 .

SPEAKER :Miss Rajashri Roy

Miss Rajashri Roy :Madam, as huge amount of money is needed for installation and
regular investment is also required so is there any other plan of the ministry to check
animal accidents in railway tracts?

SPEAKER : MINISTER OF FOREST AND ENVIRONMENT:

MINISTER OF FOREST AND ENVIRONMENT:Madam, as I have told it was a

proposal given by the ministry,so members should not be worried about the
expenditure..Recently another wonderful proposal has been suggested by the Ministry of
Railway to construct underground tunnels in forest areas.Officers are instructed to
survey the fesibility of the plan too.THUMPING.......

(Some member will be interested to ask more questions by raising their hands)

SPEAKER : Next Question : Question No. 104 Miss Sneha Baidya

Miss Sneha Baidya :Madam Speaker, Will the Minister of Culture be pleased to state :
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a) the foreign exchange earnings from tourists during the last two years and its
contribution to GDP?

b) What are the National policies there to for the development of Tourism?

SPEAKER: Honble Minister of Culture.

Minister of Culture; Madam Speaker , The GDP of the tourism sector has expanded
229% between 1990 and 2011.

(a) the estimated foreign exchange earnings from tourism during the last two years were
as follows;

Foreign exchange earnings from tourism in 2011 was Rs.68.721 crore.Foreign exchange
earnings from tourists visiting India till November 2012 was Rs.83,938 crore, with a
growth of of 22.1 percent over the same period in 2011.

(b)The Ministry of Tourism designs national policies for the development and promotion
of tourism. Concerted efforts are being made to promote new forms of tourism such as
rural, cruise, medical and eco-tourism. The Ministry also maintains the Incredible
India campaign. As a result 6.29 million Foreign tourists arrived in 2011, earning the
country $16.5 billion. The number of foreign tourist arrivals in the country in 2012 (till
November) increased by nearly six per cent over the same period in 2011.

SPEAKER :Ms.Swagata Das

Ms.Swagata Das: For women, the country is still a house of horrors!Will Tourism in
India be affected by the attacks on foreign tourists specially on women? If so, what
effort the ministry has taken so far to enhance the image of the nation abroad?

MR. SPEAKER : Hon. Minister of Culture please

Minister of Culture: Madam,I do admit such issues will create a sense of insecurity
among the foreign tourists. But I am confident to say my ministry has taken and will
take firm steps to tackle these issues in collaboration with the ministry of Home Affairs.

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 In 2012, the "Clean India" campaign was launched by the tourism ministry to enhance
the image of the country abroad. The tourism ministry also launched an international
campaign "Find What You Seek" and a domestic campaign "Go Beyond These
Campaigns" at the World Travel Market 2012 in London. In 2012, India sold tourism
packages in Saudi Arabia with road shows as well. Above all Mega star Amir Khan has
been appointed as brand ambassador with the message Atithi devo bhava

SPEAKER :Ms. Upali Banerjee

Ms Upali Banerjee:"India has the highest potential in medical tourism in the world,"

(a) Will medical Tourism be Indiass next big Industry?

(b)If so What effort govt. has taken to achieve it?

SPEAKER : Hon. Minister of Culture:

Minister OF Culture: Madam, "India has the highest potential in medical tourism in the
world." The growth in Indias medical tourism market will be a boon for several
associated industries, including the hospital industry, the medical equipment industry,
and the pharmaceutical industry.In terms of medical tourists, the number would touch
1.3 million by 2013 at a CAGR of 19%. "However, the industry is at a nascent stage
and requires a few years to reach the platform already established by the IT sector."
"India has been ranked among the top five destinations for medical tourism,

"THUMPING..

(b)The question regarding ministrys effort-my ministry has constant touch with External
affairs and Ministry of Health and Family Welfare.

The govt. has relaxed its tourist visa rules. Apollo Hospitals, Fortis Healthcare and Max
Healthcare, Medica like chain of hospitals have been encouraged to attract foreign
patients. It is estimated that India could be hosting 24 lakh medical tourists by 2020,
almost four times the number it catered to in 2010. And thats not all. The figure is
projected to rise to 49 lakh tourists by 2025.

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SPEAKER:Miss Sreejoni Neogi

Miss Sreejoni Neogi : Madam, Looking at the recent flood in Uttarakhand it is high
time to think about Eco tourism. Yes , I can appreciate Honble Minister for his concern
towards Eco Tourism. What effort govt. has taken so far for the promotion of Eco
Tourism?

SPEAKER: Honble Minister of Culture.

Minister of Culture:
The Ministry of Culture has the specific agenda to promote tourism in the country in a
responsible and sustainable manner

(a) The local community should be involved leading to the overall economic
development of the area.

(b) The likely conflicts between resource use for eco-tourism and the livelihood of
local inhabitants should be identified and attempts made to minimize the same

Above all To encourage the Stakeholders to promote & practice Ecotourism practices,
the Ministry of Tourism has included categories of awards " Best Eco friendly Hotel",
'Best Responsible Tourism Project", "Best Eco friendly Practices by Tour Operators" in
the National Tourism Awards presented annually to various segments of travel, tourism
& hospitality sector. : : :

This is my submission to you sir.

Dy. Speaker: No more question please.

Now the question hour is over.
5.Breach of Privilage
Isha Ghosh: Sir, a serious breach of privilege has been committed by Cooch
Behar District Authority.Without any valid reason they banned me to address the
peaceful public gathering on 15 of August 2013. The authority has attributed dishonest
motives and I am requesting you to allow me to raise a question on that matter now.
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Dy. Speaker: Is it? Really it is matter of great concern. But you cant spring
a surprise on me like this. The matter will be examined and
then I shall let you know my decision.

6. Papers T0 Be Laid on The Table

Dy. Speaker: Papers to laid on the Table of the House by
Ministers/members.
Miss Samiksha Kumari, Minister of Social Justice &
Empowerment to lay a copy of each of the notifications and Annual Report for the
year 2011-12
Minister of Social Justice & Empowerment: Sir, I beg to lay on the Table
(1) A copy of the Annual Report (Hindi and English versions) of the
Rehabilitation Council of India, New Delhi, for the year 2011-2012,
alongwith Audited Accounts.
(2) Statement (Hindi and English versions) showing reasons for delay in
laying the papers mentioned at (1) above.

7. Message from the Upper Chamber

Dy. Speaker: Secretary to report message from the Upper Chamber of Youth
Parliament.
Secretary: Sir, I have to report the following message received from the Secretary-
General of Upper chamber:-"I am directed to inform the Youth Parliament that the
Sexual Harassment of Women at Workplace (Prevention, Prohibition and Redressal) Bill,
2012 has been passed by the Upper House at its sitting held on the 26th February,
2013.

Dy. Speaker: Secretary to lay on the Table of the House, Sexual Harassment of
Women at Workplace (Prevention, Prohibition and Redressal) Bill,
2012 as passed by the UpperChamber.
Secretary General: Sir, I lay on the Table of the House, the Bill, as passed by the
Upper Chamber.
8. Welcome ToThe Foreign Delegates

Dy. Speaker: Honble Members, I have to make an announcement. On my behalf

and on behalf of the honourable Members of the House, I have great

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 pleasure in extending our warm welcometo her Excellency Ms.
Kamala Rammurthy, Vice President of Singapore Parliamentary
Delegation who is on a visit to India as our honoured guests.
The other honourable Ministers are:
1. Mr Siby Sebastian- Speaker.
2. Miss. R A Kanni- Minister of Civil Aviation.

9. Calling Attention

Dy. Speaker : Now let us take up the calling attention motion Miss Jyotishree
Majhi/Ishita Ghosh//Dishani saha/ Shawan Ganguly and Debashmita Roy to call the
attention of the Minister of Home Affairs to the unprecedented growth of Naxalite and
Maoist activities in India in general and Odisha ,Chhattisgarh Jharkhand and Bihar in
particular.

Dy. Speaker : Miss Jyotishree Majhi

Jyotishree Majhi: ,

Dy. Speaker: Yes , Minister of Home Affairs please.

Minister of Home Affairs :

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 2013 On 25 May 2013, Darbha Valley in the Sukma district
of Chhattisgarh killed 27, on02.07.2013 in Dumka district of Jharkhand Maoists killed a
superintendent of police and four policemen , on 13.07.2013 Yerkad village in
Gadchiroli A former special police officer (SPO), who had been associated with the
banned Salwa Judum, was allegedly shot dead & on 17.07.2013 in Bihar Five security
personnel, including three policemen, were killed when armed Maoists attacked them
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Dy. Speaker:Ms.Isha Ghosh

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Speaker: Ms. Dishani Saha

Dishani Saha :Sir , may I draw the attention of the honble Minister to the Naxalite
problem particularly of Dantewada & Bastar District of Chhatisgarh to which I am
representing. Sir, SalawaJudum was doing some fabulous job in creating awareness
among the tribal people to fight against the Naxalites. But to my surprise the Govt. of
Chattisgarh has suspended SalwaJudum.After the assasination of Mahendra Karmkar is
trhere any plan to develop such type of group in Naxilite and Maoist areas?

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My second question is that for Chhattisgarh 135,190 km area only 30BNs ( Comprising
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of 16BN-CRPF, 2BN-Naga Force, 12BN-State Police) are deployed to combat Naxalites-

Maoist but for the information of the House sir, for 55,000 sq. kms of Jammu &
Kasjmir 144 BNs ( 70BN-CRPF, 20 BN-BSF & 54 BN- Rashtriya Rifles) and Manipur
has 48 BNs to man 22,000 sq. kms.similarly The police to population ratio in state is
173 per one lakh population. In other conflict-ridden states such as Manipur and
Kashmir the police to population ratio stood at 877 per 1,00,000 and 612 per 1,00,000
respectively. The Honble Minister is requested to clarify the House there to.

Speaker:Sawan Ganguly

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Speaker:Ms. Debashmita Roy

Ms. Debashmita Roy:Madam, Naxalite violence is countered by State Repression and

the brunt is borne by ordinary people living in the areas where these groups operate.
Such groups cant bring about any social transformation or change in the lives of the
oppressed people. We have to counter politically and ideologically the false posturing of
such revolutionary activities. some of these groups exploit the situation. Sabyasachi
panda ,Danadpani Mohanty, Dayanidhi, Krishna Biswas like people are taking
advantages of it.

Speaker: Honble Minister please.

Minister of Home Affairs :

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10(a)Legslative Business
Speaker:
Minister of Family Welfare (Roshmita Roy):
Madam speaker, I beg to move for leave to introduce the care and
assistance to father and mother Bill 2012

Speaker: The question is:

"The leave is granted to introducecare and assistance to father and
mother Bill 2012
Those who are in favour will please say Ayes."
(The majority of the member says "Ayes".)
"Those who are against it please say No."
(A minority of the members say No.)
I think the Ayes have it, the Ayes have it the Ayes have it.
Leave is granted.
Minister of Family Welfare: Madam, I introduce the Bill.

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 10(b)Bill For Consideration
SPEAKER : Now the House will take up consideration of the
Electoral Reform Bill part III,2013 Minister, please.
MINISTER FOR LAW & JUSTICE : Madam Speaker,I beg to move : Electoral Reform
Bill part III,2013
That the Bill to provide for the more effective prevention of crime in politics
and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto,be taken into consideration.
Madam, One of the fountain heads of corruption is election where large amounts of
money are needed for the battle. Despite an effective Election Commission, it is an
open secret that money still plays an ugly role in garnering votes. No amount of anti-
corruption measures will be effective unless this murky aspect of Indian political life is
eliminated.
My Ministry has set out certain urgent proposals for electoral reforms in areas that have
not been taken up in the past by the Commission and which have arisen due to
implementation of certain laws enacted or based on certain directions given by the
Supreme Court and the High Courts.
1. Stringent punishment to offer all kinds of freebies to people during election time.
2. The amount of money and muscle power that is involved in elections has to be
very closely monitored and stern steps to be taken against people involving in the
malicious use of money and muscle power.
3. The people of a constituency should be accorded the power to recall.
4. State funding of elections &Government Sponsored Advertisements
5. Audit of electoral expenses
6. Fast Track courts against elected MP's with corruption or criminal charges
7. Fixing Educational Qualification-Graduate & Retirement age-65 to be fixed
for the members
8. Political Representative Incentives Commission
9. Performance reporting against Election Manifestos by Election Commission
10. All Officials Appointed in Connection with Conduct of Elections to be included in
Clause (7) of Section 123.
11. No candidate can contest in more than one constituency and to one House.
Madam. Speaker, I am confident that the all Honble Members of this House
irrespective of party affiliation will welcome the Bill whole heartedly and through it
help to eliminate criminalization of politics once for all. With these words, I now
move that the Electoral Reform Bill part III,2013, be taken into consideration.
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SPEAKER: Motion moved.
That the Bill to provide for the more effective Electoral reforms part III-2013 for matters
connected therewith or incidental thereto be taken into consideration.
Ms.Dipshita Chaudhury
Ms.Dipshita Chaudhury: Honble Speaker, I rise to support this Bill. The recentincident
of corruption has evoked widespread condemnation from all parts of the country.The
media has also played its part in highlighting this incident. Parliament has taken full
notice of it. Government has come out with legislation, a Bill which in a sense is a
symbol of its determination to fight, a symbol of its will to see that the nation does not
once again slide back into obscurantism. When India became independent and declared
itself a democratic republic, there was hope that India would make unprecedented
progress in every field. But with great regret I would likje to inform you that good
people shun politics as if it were worse than leprosy. The people of India are rapidly
losing confidence in democracy.
SPEAKER: Leader of Opposition
Leader of Opposition: Sir, It is with mixed feelings that have to address this august
House. The whole country was shocked and humiliated by the recent incident of
corruption and the supreme court verdict. There are movements throughout the country
condemning and demanding prevention of this type of crime and my party was in the
fore-front of these agitations. It was only after this strong reaction from the people that
the Government has been forced to bring in this legislation.
But, sir, what is painful is that the legislation which they have brought forward now is
full of flaws and have been drafted without consulting any of the leading crusaders
who are in a better position to give valuable suggestions, as they have done a lot of
work in this sphere.
1. This Bill provides that attempt to cleansing the corrupt people from Indias
Parliament but in reality it is not. On the name of reform we are going to
encroach on the fundamental rights of the citizens. The part 7 of the Bill Fixing
Educational Qualification for the members will debar many good administrators to
serve the country. Can anybody say the educational qualification of
Mahapadmananda, Qutb-ud din Aibaq, Akbar and many othersWerent they good
administrators.
2. Similarly in the part 7 of the bill there is a provision of Retirement age
My dear friends it is taking me back to my class VIII English book .the very first
chapter was the land where there were no old man.Laugh.......................
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 On the name of bringing reforms simply we are going to dump the experience of
senior people.Isnt it madam.No country of the world has such type of provisions.
So, my party is not able to understand why such type of provisions are kept.
3. Another big loophole is in the part 1 that the offence has not been categorized as
cognizable and non-bail able. This is really surprising that a crime is punishable by
death and then it is not cognizable. This also should be gone into. The Bill as it
is now, if it is passed will not have the desired effect. It will be ineffective in
preventing this terrible crime.
Rather I would like to suggest to include that:
There should be a close monitoring on peoples participation. In this age of
technological advancement effective use and role of technology is very important.
The process of voting instead of visiting the polling station with the help of
technology can be made through the internet where one can visit the website and
cast ones vote Therefore, while I support the idea of bringing forward such a Bill I also
have to state that this Bill should be suitably amended, before it is passed.
Prime Minister: The purpose of democracy will be defeated if we fail to design a
system in which good candidates are willing to come forward as candidates. The first
task before us is to cleanse the Westminster system of the socialist dross that has
destroyed its vitality and prevents good people from contesting elections.
Three simple electoral reforms can fix most of the defects in Indias democracy:a) State
funding of elections b) Audit of electoral expenses c) Fast Track courts against elected
MP's with corruption or criminal charges

a) State funding of elections

Indias electoral laws should instead of favouring the corrupt who bring crores of
rupees of black money into play during elections give good honest people a fair
chance to get elected. That electoral expenditure are not the only determinant of
electoral success. However, it is true that without being able to spend sufficient money,
it is not possible to communicate ones message to the voter. Therefore the new bill
proposes that all candidates be reimbursed Rs.15 per valid vote cast up to a ceiling of
Rs. 40 lakhs (being the electoral expense limit). This reimbursement system would
allow good candidates to borrow funds to contest, in the hope of recovering at least
part of their expense through reimbursement. Over time, the proportion of good
candidates elected will increase, thereby setting up a positive cycle, compared with the
current vicious cycle.Such a system is very successfully followed in Australia and allows
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competent candidates to contest, thereby significantly improving the quality and integrity
of leadership in parliament.

b) Stringent audit of electoral expenses

Although it is not desirable, in principle, to limit electoral expenses, it is important that if
the country imposes such limits, that these are strictly monitored. It recommends
stringent audit of electoral funding and vigorous punishment of those who break
electoral funding limits. If corrupt politicians can't gain an electoral advantage through
use of huge amounts of black money , then barriers against good candidates will further
reduce.
c) Fast track courts to deal with corruption or criminal charges against MPs
While criminals and the corrupt should be punished, It believes that someone not yet
convicted of a major crime should not be prevented from entering parliament. India must
abide by the principles of natural justice.
In any event, if we try to block entry to Parliament of those with criminal cases against
them, it is quite likely that such people will set up dummy candidates (spouse, child)
instead. It is not possible to solve complex problems through simplistic solutions.

So, the Election Commission should be charged with fast-tracking criminal cases. Cases
against elected MPs should be be given top priority and heard without break until
completed. While the Commission has no power to prosecute anyone for non-election
related criminal offences, it has a responsibility to ensure that India does not get
heinous criminals as its MPs. It should be empowered to apply extra resources where
needed (through the court system), enforce tight timelines, and punish those officials
(e.g. police officials) who deliberately delay the justice process. A small budget of Rs.
20 crores for the Election Commission could go a long way to rid criminals from Indias
Parliament.

Speaker: Akash Sarkar

SHRI Akash Sarkar : Honble Speaker, Madam, I rise to support this Bill. Government
has come out with legislation, a Bill which in a sense is a symbol of its determination
to fight, a symbol of its will to see that the nation does not once again slide back into
obscurantism. if you pay peanuts, you will get monkeys. Chanakya, who helped unite
India over 2000 years ago into the largest empire it has seen (Mauryan) knew this very
well.Arthashastra specifies that the highest salary paid by a king should be 800 times
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that given to the lowest functionary. This was done so as to attract the best talent of
the country to the higher positions, which require greater knowledge and judgement.

We started paying MPs low salaries (which the MPs have circumvented through
perquisites and corruption). The immediate result was that good people refused to join
politics, preferring to earn a respectable living through other affairs. This has contributed
to the inexorable decline in quality of Indias political leaders. Either we get the corrupt
or we get demagogues. Honest talented Indians have fled politics. To address this
serious problem of inappropriate compensation to our leaders, The provision in the bill
to create an independent Political Representative Incentives Commission (PRIC) is
highly commendable proposal. The commission should be charged with research on,
and making recommendations on a compensation mechanism for peoples
representatives that will eliminate all reasonably foreseeable incentives for corruption, or
will otherwise promote the freedom of citizens.

Speaker: Pallabi Guha

Ms. Pallabi Guha:Madam, I strongly object The recall mechanism by which voters can
remove an elected public official before the next scheduled election. Although many US
states include provisions for the recall in their constitutions, the mechanism is not used
at national level in the USA.But I am apprehensive my friends on the name of bringing
stabilization are going to destabilize the nation. Recall is a weapon that could be used
unfairly at a time of political passion to tear down a man who held honest views on a
subject which, on later investigation, might be proved right, but it would then be too late
to correct the error.one after the other people will recall the members and it will create
anarchy in the country.so, Istrongly objectclause 3 provision of the bill .

Miss Jigisha Mishra : Madam, the Minister is not listening, She is listening to the
Minister next to her.
MINISTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE: Madam, I am listening.
Miss Jigisha Mishra :: oh She has two ears (Laughter )
cont.and have some doubt If a mechanism for citizens initiated elections were to
be introduced, the initial question would be whether this would just involve the
dissolution of the Legislative Assembly, or it would also involve the election of half of
the Legislative Council, or indeed the whole of the Legislative Council (i.e. a double
dissolution)? A second question would be whether the petition itself should initiate the
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early election, or it should simply initiate a vote upon whether an early election should
be held, which if successful would be followed by an early general election? Issues
arise here about the expense of holding two elections to determine the matter and the
democratic legitimacy of the use of a petition to overturn a democratically elected
government and initiate a new election?

Speaker: Miss Anushka Bhattacharjee

Miss Anushka Bhattacharjee : Honourable Madam Speaker with a mixed feelings I am

supporting the bill.The bill is the demand of the hour. We should dance according to
the tune of the time.Most of the provisions are discussed in this august gathering. I
would like to bring brighter aspect of the bill that is clause 11 of this bill to your
notice.A person can contest only from one constituency either to the loksabha or to the
vidhansabha at a time.Its a fantastic idea to check bye elections.At the same time what
I belief it will strengthen democracy. In fear of loosing people are contesting from two -
three constituencies at a time. Similarly it will check jumping of politicians from centre to
state or state to centre.This is my submission madam.

Speaker: MissTiasha Banerjee

MissTiasha Banerjee:Madam, I thank you for giving me an opportunity to participate in

this debate. I will not go into the different aspects of Electoral Reforms because the
learned speakers before me have already dealt with it at large. The only thing I would
like to point out is that through this Bill tries to cover the performance of elected
political parties against their election manifesto commitments.Almost all political parties
make promises about things like poverty, infrastructure, etc. in their manifestos.
It should require all parties to lodge their manifestos with it, and require manifestos to
specify performance measures for each commitment. At a minimum given possible
resource constraints the Commission could direct political parties to report on such
performance on their own websites as part of their annual financial reports.

Speaker: Minister of Law and Justice

MINISTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE: Sir, I am grateful to all the Members who have
supported the Bill I am also grateful to those members who have given their

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constructive criticism on it. I am grateful to those members who have given their
constructive criticism on it. I am grateful for the advice that has been given to us.
With regard to the main suggestion. I would like to say that I do agree that the whole
problem of cleansing politics is a herculean task. Before preparing the draft we have
invited many social activists to present their views. The loopholes pointed by the
honourable opposition party leader on the clause number 7 of the bill Iwould like to
say that can anybody pointed out a developed country where illiterates are entering
into politics.
Miss Bhavna Manhas: you cannot also find a developed country having such a large
number of Illiterates............
MINISTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE:yes let me explain the points.Educated people are
the torch bearer of the society.To enter into ICS minimum qualification is
Graduation.after completing post graduation people are joining as substaff. So, in such a
condition there is no harm to fix the educational qualifications.Moreover one who has
interest in politics will be educated.it will inspire many educated people to enter into
p[olitcs.
Regarding Retirement age honourable members pointed out to cite an example of a
country where there is fixed age of retirement.
Ms. Suchendra:Honourable member has pointed out any European country
MINISTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE: yes, yes Iam sorry, it was European
country.Can anybody cite an example where people are not able to walk still holding
the chair. So, we are not against the use of experience, If they are active they should
be in advisory body.only by holding chair one can not bring revolution.
About the members concern on Recall. Iwould like to suggest the members to go
through the bill carefully.The recall is a mechanism by which voters can remove an
elected public official before the next scheduled election. lt is one element of a system
of direct democracy.Through a mechanism corrupt, incompetent or lazy members will
be removed and in the election who was placed in the second position will be given a
chance to enter into the office.so, there will be no fresh election and no anarchy. The
bill has developed a clear mechanism for this.
I hope I have answered most of the points, raised by the Members in the
course of my speech. Other parts of the bill our honourable Prime Minister has already
addressed. I once again thank you for your support and need your cooperation in
implementing this measure. I request the House to pass the Bill

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SPEAKER : The Question is : That the Bill to provide for the more effective prevention
of crime in politics through Electoral Reforms III 2013 matters connected therewith or
incidental thereto,be taken into consideration
Those who are in favour will say Ayes.
(The majority of Members say Ayes)
Those who are against it will say No
(A minority of the Members say No)
I think the Ayes have it, Ayes have it, Ayes have it.
The motion is adopted.
Clause by clause consideration
SPEAKER : Now the question is that clause 2-11 stands part of the Bill.
There is one amendment in clause 3 by Pallabi Guha Are you moving it?
Ms. Pallabi Guha : No, Madam, in view of the reply given by the Minister I am not
pressing my amendment.
SPEAKER : Now the question is that clause 2-11 stand part of the Bill.
Those who are in favour will say Aye
(The majority of Members say Aye)
Those against will say No)
(A minority of Members say No)
I think the Ayes have it, the Ayes have it, the Ayes have it,
The motion is adopted
Now the question is :
That clause I, the enacting formula and the Title stand part of the Bill
Those who are in favour will please say Aye.
(The majority of Members say Aye)
Those who are against it will please say No.
(A minority of Members say No.)
I think the Ayes have it, the Ayes have it, the Ayes have it.
The motion is adopted.
Minister for Human Resource Development please.
Minister of Law and Justice; Madam, I move the Bill be passed.
SPEAKER : Motion moved :
That the Bill is passed.
Those who are in favour will please say Aye.
(The majority of Members say Aye)
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Those against it may please say No.
(A minority of Members say No.)
I think the Ayes have it, the Ayes have it, the Ayes have it.
The motion is adopted.

Now the House is adjourned to meet again tomorrow at 11.00 a.m.

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PRIVATE MEMBERS RESOLUTION

SPEAKER: Now the House will take up Private Members Resolution
Miss. Anwesha Kabiratna to move the Resolution.
Miss. Anwesha Kabiratna: Madam, I move the following Resolution.This House
recommends that the Government should produce more effective instruction to check
legal loopholes through which Child trafficking slip can be prevented and for matters
connected there with or incidental there to, be taken into consideration".
1. Elements of human trafficking: - Sale & Purchase of human body for any purpose.
Taking the person to foreign countries for the purpose of trafficking. involving a woman
in prostitution by enticing by undue influence, by fraud, threat,force or by any other.
2. to include guardians and relatives involved in child trafficking in the same scale with
the kidnappers and others. Because it has come to our notice that there have been
cases where a child is forced by his guardians who are looking after him.
3. Anyone who got involved in this would be punishable with the maximum penalty,
i.e., death sentence or imprisonment for the life.
4. Those convicted of such offences shall be disqualified from enjoying political
rights or should give compensation or both as per the weight age of the crime. Industry,
begging, selling of body parts and so on .
5. Appointment of trafficking police officers.

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Madam, I am confident that all the honble members of this House irrespective of Party
affiliation will welcome the whole heartedly and through it help to eradicate this
horrendous practice once for all. With these words, I now move that the Child
trafficking and prevention-II Bill 2013 Be taken into consideration.
Speaker: Motion Moved. that the Bill to provide more effective instrument to
check legal loopholes through which Child traffickers slip can be
prevented and for matters connected therewith or incidental there to
be taken into consideration."
Speaker: Ms. Suchendra Paul
Ms. Suchendra Paul : Madam, the whole country is shocked and humiliated to see the
Report by a prominent news agency that India is the sixth most dangerous country in
the World for children even worse thancountries like Afghanistan and Myanmar. It is
worth remembering that children are the building blocks of the nation and to squander
away this precious wealth is truly tragic, to say the least. To quote the Human
Development Report "a sharp reminder of the human potential the world is wasting.
Speaker: Miss Sonali Mandal
Miss Sonali Mandal:
Thank you for giving me a chance to debate. The report of the Survey is not a
revelation, but a confirmation of what we have always suspected. That our Children
are exposed to higher levels of danger than most other countries. Where else do
youhave Children working in mines, quarries, firework factories? Where else do you
have children sleeping on pavement andeating food picked up from garbage dumps?
Where else do you have trafficking slipping away from the laws? So, I think this is the
first time that a Child Specific anti trafficking law is under debate. As long as a
strong and specific law in this direction is not passed. So long as we cant spear head
the national champion against Child Trafficking.
Speaker:Miss Bhawna
Miss Bhawna: Madam, it is with mixed feeling that would like to congratulate
honourable member for drafting the bill .Madam, I believe, our friend in her attempt to
bring justice has over reached regarding the severity of punishment like death sentence.
How can someone be indicating for life imprisonment for employing of children as
domestic keep and corporate punishment?Madam, it is important to get at the basics of
why such crimes takePlace? There after madam, I believe protectors of law cannot
become Perpetrators of crime under the disguise of implementing law.In implementing, it
can be severely misused and overused. Irepeat misused and overused.
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 Speaker: Miss Roshmita Roy
Miss Roshmita Roy: Madam, I thank you for giving me an opportunity to participate in
this debate. The only thing I would like to point out is that though this Bill tries to cover
one Social evil, the fact remains that many people in this Country are still utilizing
innocent Children to materialize their vested interest taking the loopholes of the laws.
The govt. should seriously consider as to how the building blocks of the nation can be
saved by passing rigorous punishment to the offenders.
SPEAKER:Minister of Women and child Development(Prime Minister)
Minister of Women and child Development(Prime Minister): coming to the part of
legislation I am not able to understand the necessity of the new law. There is a
plethora of laws and acts which ensure protection of the Child from anykind of
exploitation.For Example: The Child Labour (Prohibition and RegulationAct) 1986, 1993
etc. on December 10th, 1996, the Supreme Court of India in a historic judgment also
banned the practice of employing children in hazardous industries and ordered the
creation of a corpus fund with contribution of Rs. 25,000/-each from the employer and
the govt. to ensure compulsory education of the child.Taking a due from the above
judgment, employers of children should make a beginning by providing then with at
least the basic of facilities conducive to a healthy working conditions and the employer
should provide them medical benefit apart from housing, insurance, recreational and
educational facilities and incentives such as free meals books, stationery and uniforms
to sustain the childs interest in school. So, in my opinion we should implement the
existing rules strictly instead of experimenting one after another rule.
In view of the efforts undertaken by the government to meet this problem, sir,
through you, I request honourable member to withdraw her resolution.
SPEAKER ; Miss Anwesha Kabiratna
Miss Anwesha Kabiratna: Madam, I am grateful to the Honble Members for lending
support to my resolution . In view of the assurance given by the Honble Prime Minister
and since a law has already been enacted to deal with this menace. I hope that the
Government will take all stringent measures to eliminate this problem. Therefore, I may
be allowed to withdraw this resolution.
SPEAKER : Has the Honble Member leave of the House to withdraw her resolution?
SEVERAL MEMBERS : Yes, Yes.
SPEAKER : The Resolution by leave of the House is withdrawn.
Now the House is adjourned to meet again tomorrow at 11.00 a.m.

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