B

ook recommendations really depends on what exactly you want to do, because there's
more than one set. The four primary rune systems are the Elder and Younger Norse,
the Anglo-Saxon, and the Armanen. A major difficulty with the first three is the
fact that very little genuine Lore has survived, and in the case of the Elder,
there is no original Lore at all - almost everything you find about the Elder
Futhark in modern books is a modern invention, the result of the authors personal
gnosis from meditating and studying. And a major difficulty most have with the
Armanen is that it was formed in the early 20th century, by Guido von List. On the
one hand it is a complete system with full Lore accompanying it, but on the other
hand, many people criticize it because it's "new." I can, from personal experience,
say that the Armanen is just as genuine as the older sets if you practice it
correctly.
For an academic introduction, I was recently introduced to Runes: Reading The Past
by R.I. Page. It's a scholarly text and I haven't finished it yet, but it should be
insightful for those willing to study this tradition seriously. The books by Edred
Thorsson/Stephen Flowers is generally good, if you keep in mind that he is heavily
influenced by his Hermetic/Chaos Magick training. Still, there is much to learn in
Futhark: A Handbook of Rune Magic, Rune-Magic, Northern Magic, ALU I found somewhat
interesting and the Nine Doors of Midgard (while I could criticize it) is decent to
read through for training ideas, but unless you wish to join the Order that
Thorsson runs you don't need to take it too seriously. Helrunar by Jan Fries is
just as unscholarly as Reading The Past is, but it has some nice insights. If you
wish to study the Armanen seriously: The Secret of The Runes by Guido von List, the
Daniel Updike videos (I don't agree with everything he says, but he's an Elder with
much wisdom), the work of Karl Hans Welz, and this. If you want to dig into
fiction, I also recommend the Way of Wyrd by Brian Bates, just because it's
awesome.
Also, Bardon's third book. There are two main things to take issue with here. 1)
Bardon's prerequisite of finishing the IIH up to Step 8, or the equivalent in
another system. 2) Bardon works with the Hebrew Runes, hence "True Kabbalah."
However, many of the principles are the same, and Bardon even gives many Formulae
(spells) that are translatable into the Rune Sets, though that takes a bit of work
for some. It is an excellent text to study, and gives much insight into what
Galdr/Kabbalah is.
And, don't forget, read the Eddas! Much is mentioned in the old Lore, about how to
use the Runes if not much about them specifically. You can also study other tales
where Incantation is used to get ideas of how to use the Runes, because this is an
ancient form of magic. As important as it is to study the Runes, you also have to
remember that they come from a specific worldview that is very different from the
Industrial World. You need to learn what Wyrd/Urd's Well (what Odin gazed into for
9 days and nights) is and its relation to the Runes. You need to understand
Orlog/Karma, and the Sisters who weave it into the Web of Wyrd. You need to
understand vibration, and Odr, and Ond, and much else. Galdr, the Runes - it is so,
soooo much more than sigil magic and divination. The deeper you dig, the more you
push your initiation, the more you will be able to do with these sacred sounds.
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Postby Haelos Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:36 pm
Soooo much.
My many gratitudes. I'll be reading for weeks.
I hope this leads to some good breakthroughs in my practice. I'm looking forward to
what I can accomplish.
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That's what you get, asking a Scribe for book references. [rofl]
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Postby ErebusNamtar Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:37 am
Much appreciated Shinichi! I'm a bookworm so no worries there. I was born into this
world with a book-list in my hands. [lol]
I already own the von List one you mentioned but he's very well known so that's not
surprising. Great stuff.
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Postby corvidus Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:21 am
So it's been about a month since I worked with the IAO formula, but here are the
most noticeable results.
I practiced this for only a week, once or twice a day. I noticed a significant
boost to my creativity and how I express it. I started drawing more, which I've
been wanting to do but haven't ever made the time. Basically, for the first week
after practicing the IAO, my desire to create art increased significantly.
Here's one outcome of the IAO:

Image
After this, I projected it onto my little brother with no real intention in mind.
Within one day, he paid me back some money he owed me (only $50, but it was
unexpected) and joined me and my friend's at an arts gathering. Not something he
would ordinarily do.
That's all I've noticed for now, if anything else comes up that seems relevant,
I'll post it up.
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Postby Spida Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:34 pm
That's good art work.

I can see all sorts of bizarre things in the background when I stare at it, which
is kinda cool.
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nature; then there are choices.
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Before that, Nothing. Something can come from nothing. This is all just one beat,
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Postby WillowDarkWytch Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:30 pm
Motumb se!
Shin! I didn't see this work before! It looks amazing!! I'll be trying it
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I was on another forum recently where someone commented that the "Spell Sharing"
forum should be renamed "Spell Begging," since that is what tends to happen.
Noticing a similar pattern here on OF, I decided to share something that I have
been working on for a while.
Now, most of the people on this forum will have seen IAO at some point in their
studies, and may be familiar with its roots as a Greek Formulae. The "Greek
Tetragammaton," specifically, since the Greeks favored a Three-Fold World over a
Four-Fold World as in the Abrahamic Tradition. It is most famously described by
Crowley as a transmutation formulae, via his Isis, Apophis, and Osiris description
of "Life," "Death," and "Rebirth." Well, with all of this knowledge in my back
pocket, yet focusing mostly on Rune Magick for my "Formulae" practice, I decided
one day to translate IAO into a Runic Galdr so that it can be utilized as Isa,
Ansuz, and Othala.
Then I had to figure out what to do with it. So, I constructed a meditation and a
ritual from scratch and I started experimenting. Now I'm sharing what came out of
this little project so far, so that others may benefit from it and perhaps take it
further while I work more on other things for a while. Hopefully a few of our more
experienced members here will be able to use these practice effectively, since it
is a bit more advanced than my previous writing.
Prerequisites:
1) Meditation experience. In particular, the ability to relax the mind to a state

of Center or Mental Silence, where there is a state of inner peace and the "monkey
mind" is conquered. I describe how to do this effectively in Fundamental
Development, and there are tons of other methods too.
2) Attunement to The Futhark Runes, particularly Isa, Ansuz, and Othala for this
operation. It doesn't matter if you use Elder, Anglo-Saxon, Armanen, or whatever.
All that's necessary is that you are attuned to the I, A, and O vibrations, and if
you do not know what "Attunement" or "Activation" is then you need to work on your
Runic Initiations a bit longer before you will enjoy the following exercises fully.
3) Ability to Vibrate a Formula mentally, energetically, and physically
simultaneously. In short, a basic and complete Vibration in conventional Western
occult style. If too few people understand how to perform a Complete Magical
Vibration, let me know and I'll see if I can make a post on that too. It's very
simple, it just takes a bit of skill to pull off. Like a roundhouse kick, practice
makes perfect.
4) Basic understanding of the nature and effect of the IAO Formula. There are many
symbolic explanations for IAO, but they all do the same essential thing. I'll try
to offer a Runic explanation at the end of this, but prior knowledge of what IAO
actually is and does will be useful, if only so that you will know if you actually
want to practice these exercises or not.
1) Clear the mind to Mental Silence.
2) Take up your favorite meditation posture and breathe in a comfortable, but deep
pattern until you are relaxed physically and you have no distractions.
3) Turn your Awareness entirely upon the I Rune, so that little else has room to
exist in your mind. Inhale deeply, feeling the energy of the I Rune invoked into
your entire being. Do not imagine anything. Once you have invoked the I Rune
successfully, exhale slowly and vibrate the I sound for the entirety of your
exhale. Feel the vibration exert itself upon your mind, your soul, and your body.
4) With the I Rune vibrated completely, turn your Awareness entirely upon the A
Rune, so that little else has room to exist in your mind. Inhale deeply, feeling
the A Rune invoked into your entire being. Do not imagine anything. Once you have
invoked the A Rune successfully, exhale slowly and vibrate the A sound for the
entirety of your exhale. Feel the vibration exert itself upon your mind, your soul,
and your body.
5) With the A Rune vibrated completely, turn your Awareness entirely upon the O
Rune, so that little else has room to exist in your mind. Inhale deeply, feeling
the O Rune invoked into your entire being. Do not imagine anything. Once you have
invoked the O Rune successfully, exhale slowly and vibrate the O sound for the
entirety of your exhale. Feel the vibration exert itself upon your mind, your soul,
and your body.
6) Repeat steps 3-5 up to nine times. Excessive practice is not useful, so do not
push for quantity. Rather, work on making the quality of each vibration better in
future sessions.
7) Once the nine repetitions are complete, sit and meditate on the feelings induced
by the invocation for a while. Meditate on your spiritual nature, or just bask in
the after-glow of this kind of spell work. How long is up to you. When you're
finished meditating, Center your mind and Ground any excess buzz via exhale and
return to other activities.
Benefits
I'm not yet sure what long term benefits are for this exercise, which is part of
why I have decided to share it: feedback. I can note that upon completion of this
meditation, I am usually left with strong feelings of ecstasy and similar feely-
goods because it directly raises the vibrations of the users energy and
consciousness - which is not as New Agey as it sounds, since vibration is a
perfectly natural principle with higher and lower frequencies. So it has a very
strong effect on consciousness and also tends to bring me back into a sense of
equilibrium when I am "off" for some reason. I would like to hear what other
effects pop up, should anyone decide to experiment with this meditation.
Notes
Do not visualize any specific tactile feelings or visual colors or movements, do

not imagine anything at all. This is not a visualization exercise, and you do not
need to imagine anything - imagination in fact hinders the work the spell is trying
to do. Simply focus on the Rune and Vibrate the Sound. The Vibration will do all
the work, so all you have to focus on is the Vibration. Not even what it means,
just the Sound and its Vibration. This is why Mental Discipline is extremely
important to Galdr practice. Working with vibration is extremely simple, and if
your mind is active it will find a million ways to over complicate things and
prevent the vibrations from doing their work. Do not imagine anything, do not think
anything. Focus entirely on the sound and vibrations.
The Stadhagaldr Invocation of IAO
1) Clear the mind to Mental Silence.
2) Stand in the Stadhagaldr of Isa. Turn the mind to the Rune of Isa, observing Isa
within and without. Microcosm and Macrocosm. Inhale slowly as Macrocosm enters
Microcosm. Exhale slowly while vibrating Isa through the whole Being. When the
breath and the vibration end, return the mind to Silence.
3) Raise the arms to the Stadhagaldr of Ansuz. Turn the mind to the Rune of Ansuz,
observing Ansuz within and without. Microcosm and Macrocosm. Inhale slowly as
Macrocosm enters Microcosm. Exhale slowly while vibrating Ansuz through the whole
Being. When the breath and the vibration end, return the mind to Silence.
4) Raise the arms and place the palms together for the Stadhagaldr of Othala. Turn
the mind to the Rune of Othala, observing Othala within and without. Microcosm and
Macrocosm. Inhale slowly as Macrocosm enters Microcosm. Exhale slowly while
vibrating Othala through the whole Being. When the breath and the vibration end,
return the mind to Silence.
5) Keeping the hands together, bring them down to the solar plexus in a prayer
position. Keep the mind in Silence. Inhale slowly, focusing only on the feelings
that the previous vibrations have left you with. Exhale slowly, vibrating slowly
the complete formula of IAO through the whole Being through one breath. As the
breath and the vibration end, return the mind to Silence.
6) Lower the hands, returning to the Stadhagaldr of Isa. Keep the mind in Silence.
Breathe casually and passively observe the effects of the complete operation. From
here the entire operation may be repeated, but no more than nine times.
7) When the repetitions are done, stand in the Stadhagaldr or Isa and maintain
Mental Silence. Meditate on your spiritual nature, or bask in the after-glow of the
ritual, observing and taking note of how you feel or simply trance out and enjoying
it. How long you meditate like this is up to you. Once you are finished, Center the
mind and Ground out any excess buzz via exhale and return to other activities.
Benefits
The core benefits of this ritual are identical to the previous meditative form,
though I have found that exercising the physical postures can make it easier to
invoke the Runes and Vibrate them through the whole body. For those still getting
the hang of this sort of work, then, this may be notable, and one may use the
Stadhagaldr ritual as a preparation for the Meditation. It is easy enough to start
with the easier physical ritual and move into the more meditative form as your
skills advance.
Notes
As with the Meditation exercise, take note that this is not a visualization
practice. The vibrations and energies involved in this are very objective, and you
either have command of them or you don't. If you in fact do not, then refer to the
prerequisites list and work on your training a bit more before you work with Galdr
like this. Also, a notable alternative to this Stadhagaldr Ritual is to utilize the
Hand Gestures, which come from the same Armanen source. Simply utilize the hand
positions for the I, A and O Runes in sequence, and it will play out similarly to
the Stadhagaldr. I did not feel the need to write this up as a third exercise
partly because it is very close to the Stadhagaldr Ritual in structure, and also
because I simply have done more work on the Stadhagaldr Ritual than the Hand
Gestures. As one final note, the "within and without" instruction means that you
should use the external expression of the posture to connect to the external energy
of the Rune in Nature, so that you can feel and activate it internally. Your Mind,
Soul, and Body should be all focused on the same thing: the Rune. For when you
stand in Stadhagaldr properly, you are the Rune, and thus it is invoked.
Notes on The Runic IAO
Isa is often used as a freezing or binding energy, but the vibration of Isa is more
than that. It is the vibration of Niflheim, the Womb-World from which all life
spawned upon Muspelheim's giving warmth. Because of this, Isa's energy in this
formulae takes on a role of "potential unrealized." It is a frozen, mostly static
energy, but there is something in the ice that can be thawed out.
Ansuz is often called "Odin's Rune," or "The Rune of The Aesir," because it carries
the vibration of higher spiritual authority and power. It is the vibration of
Asgard, with all the gentle warmth and light and power that this entails. Because
of this, Ansuz in this formulae plays the role of breaking loose Isa's potential,
though not in a violent manner. Destruction, or "death" going by Crowley's
interpretation of A, need not be violent and chaotic. It is simply a transition.
The light and warmth of Ansuz can thus thaw out the "unrealized potential" found
one's inner Isa, and not only free that energy up to flow, but also leave a
distinct "spiritual" impression on that energy - to raise the potential found in
Isa not only from the ice, but further up unto the Aesir.
Othala is often called the "Inheritance Rune." Whereas Fehu is a sort of wealth
that is generated and created by one's own heart work, Othala is the wealth and
luck and fortune of the ancestors passed down to you. Because of this, Othala
carries the vibration of solidifying a work, but not in the sense of freezing and
binding like Isa. Rather, it is a grounding force, a sealing force, an energy that
says "although I have what I have from this source or that, I am in the here and
now." This allows Othala to play the most important role in the Runic IAO. As
Crowley considered the O to carry the vibration of "rebirth," so does it here, but
not quite in a literal sense. Whereas Isa is the "unrealized potential," and Ansuz
frees up the "unrealized potential" and raises its vibration towards The Aesir,
Othala has the most important role of locking in that freed up "potential" so that
"unrealized" becomes "realized," so that the potential that was freed up and raised
up via Ansuz does not sink back down into the arms of Isa again.
When these are combined into the IAO formula, you thus have this effect: Isa
invokes your unrealized potential and true spiritual nature, Ansuz thaws out Isa
and raises up your unrealized potential closer to the surface, and Othala locks in
the work done by Isa and Ansuz so that you will be closer to realizing your true
potential.
Or in other words: Isa contains the inheritance, Ansuz unlocks the inheritance, and
Othala receives the inheritance and makes it a permanent part of you.
Of all the Magick Formulae floating around out there, this is one of the most
powerful, done via European Runes or not. There is a reason it has been around for
thousands of years. There are of course many other formulae and many other
experiments to be done, but this is an important part of my recent work. It is my
hope that experienced readers of this take away not only a couple of practical
exercises, but also an understanding of what it takes to construct a Galdr Spell
either using personal formulae or other ancient spells like ALU. Dissect, study,
learn, and experiment. Nothing is infallible, least of all me and my experiments,
so I encourage further experimentation on the subject so that more learning can be
gained and spread.
I would ask, however, that if any of you do give the exercises a go as they are,
feedback would be much appreciated. They may not be infallible, but a great deal of
work did go into their construction, and I am sharing this freely as a blessing to
be received where it may.
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(03-31-2013 10:17 PM)Angelo Wrote:
Another way to be a master at scrying : pay 300$ to Koetting for his divination
program wich make you be able to have telepathic powers, prophecy the future, see
spirits in 3D in your black mirror (lol) and talk to them, read tarot and bones and
runes etc etc
Well, have won enough at cards to buy me this, but well, you know...
If you choose to buy it that's great, but I would look for reviews on it first.
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I was ironical.
I'm doubtful about that
I tried to look for reviews but I have not found any.
And of course I won't find anything else than great comments on his website
forum...
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(04-01-2013 02:00 AM)Angelo Wrote:
I was ironical.
forum...
Yeah, you most likely won't find anything on the courses. And yeah, members on his
forum would obviously give great reviews. Like I said though, Bence33 has had great
success with Works of Darkness and the "Gaining the Dark Sight" chapter, which is
about scrying and viewing spirits in the mirror.

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(04-01-2013 02:00 AM)Angelo Wrote:
I was ironical.
forum...
Yeah, you most likely won't find anything on the courses. And yeah, members on his
forum would obviously give great reviews.
That sucks cause you know... I really don't like the way E.A Koetting advertises. I
know this is business, but all crooks do exactly like he does.
I'm not saying he is not legit, I just say his methods of communications are like
the ones used by scammers.
Saying that with 9 hours of vids you'll get all god's powers of divinations and
contact with entities is not serious. We all know it requires tons of time and
studies.
Plus, all is about money and at some point this disturbs me. One has to know E.A
Koetting asked for money for some interviews. If the source is legit, wtf ??!

Like I said though, Bence33 has had great success with Works of Darkness and the
"Gaining the Dark Sight" chapter, which is about scrying and viewing spirits in the
mirror.
Yeah, and for now that's the only thing which make me still consider E.A Koetting
as legit. His methods seem to be sucessfull to some people.
Since monday I'm working on that chapter (the Sastan part), but I think I have some
trouble with the fact that I don't know anything about SASTAN except that it comes
from KOF and we know that this book is a made up thing with entities created by
Koetting himself. So, that does not help me to have a huge credit when I gaze at
SASTAN's sigil..
But yeah, Bence33 did it, so...
In conclusion, I don't think I'm gonna spend 300$ for his divination's course. Nor
I won't buy the full mastery evocation course neither which will be more expensive
imo.
No one can buy divination or evocation : he has to earn them with steady work and
dedication.
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(04-01-2013 05:19 AM)Angelo Wrote:
That sucks cause you know... I really don't like the way E.A Koetting advertises. I
know this is business, but all crooks do exactly like he does.
I'm not saying he is not legit, I just say his methods of communications are like
the ones used by scammers.
Saying that with 9 hours of vids you'll get all god's powers of divinations and
contact with entities is not serious. We all know it requires tons of time and
studies.
Plus, all is about money and at some point this disturbs me. One has to know E.A
Koetting asked for money for some interviews. If the source is legit, wtf ??!
I know what you mean. His marketing smells of nothing but sensationalism. So I know
what you mean.
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SASTAN's sigil..
Well I've had success with KOF about a year and a half back. Only worked with it
for about a month and only to Gate Walk, not for the evocations. Maybe that will
give you some motivation.
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In conclusion, I don't think I'm gonna spend 300$ for his divination's course. Nor
I won't buy the full mastery evocation course neither which will be more expensive
imo.
Good call. I wouldn't buy it either.
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dedication.
Well, you're buying a course that teaches the skill, not buying the skill itself.
It's no different than buying a course that teaches real estate investments or the
stock market or one of those wealth building courses from the "Wealth Expo" that
Donald Trump is a member of. Some are, of course, scams while others are legit. Not
defending Koetting but he's offering a course, not the skill.

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SASTAN's sigil..
Well I've had success with KOF about a year and a half back. Only worked with it
for about a month and only to Gate Walk, not for the evocations. Maybe that will
give you some motivation.
I thank you for that precision which indeed will motivate me a bit more about the
"sastan part" of WOD

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dedication.
Well, you're buying a course that teaches the skill, not buying the skill itself.
It's no different than buying a course that teaches real estate investments or the
stock market or one of those wealth building courses from the "Wealth Expo" that
Donald Trump is a member of. Some are, of course, scams while others are legit. Not
defending Koetting but he's offering a course, not the skill.
It was just a shortcut to mean that you don't buy skills, you gain them. In other
words, it was a way to say I'm very doubtful about his courses and how they can
turn you so quickly in a real God with infinite powers..
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Also, since this is a scrying thread:
My mirror stand arrived yesterday but no mirror as of yet.


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Also, since this is a scrying thread:
My mirror stand arrived yesterday but no mirror as of yet.
Weird you receive just the stand.. When do you expect it to come ?
Will you scry as soon as you receive it ?
Don't know if you read the last part of my previous message so I copy&paste it
below :
Scried all this week and just a light blur on the dark mirror, nothing else. This
is really frustrating but I know it takes time.
One weird thing tho : I was attempting to scry and then entered in a trance which
made me almost fall asleep (and believe me, this is a real issue for me cause it
happens very often). So, I closed my eyes since I wanted to sleep. Then, the
picture of a glass filled with water popped up in my mind. I did not know where
that picture came from but I saw it.
(are pictures which come when you scry like this one ? something popping up from
nowhere but which appear in your mind ?)
I opened my eyes and told myself it might have been some sort of message making me
understand I'd better scry with a glass full of water.
Since that day - a few days ago - I scry either with my black mirror and with a big
glass full of water.
Who knows what that picture of glass fulled with water meant...
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(04-01-2013 07:32 AM)Angelo Wrote:
Weird you receive just the stand.. When do you expect it to come ?
Well they were two separate orders. The scrying mirrors generally don't come with a
stand, you have to buy it separately.
(04-01-2013 07:32 AM)Angelo Wrote:

Will you scry as soon as you receive it ?
No. It's not for scrying. It's for evocation.
(04-01-2013 07:32 AM)Angelo Wrote:

Don't know if you read the last part of my previous message so I copy&paste it
below :
I did but when I hit "reply" only the top part of your post appeared.
(04-01-2013 07:32 AM)Angelo Wrote:

Yes. That's common. Perhaps you should look into a book called Scrying For
Beginners, this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Scrying-Beginners-...+beginners
If you don't want to pay for it I guess you can find a PDF version.
(04-01-2013 07:32 AM)Angelo Wrote:

Look for a dream dictionary. It helps to interpret the meaning of symbols and
images in dreams, they can also be used for visions.

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No. It's not for scrying. It's for evocation.
Oh yeah, the discussion we had about performing "simple" evocations with just a
dark mirror, isn't it ?
Can't wait to hear about your results on that one !

(04-01-2013 07:32 AM)Angelo Wrote:
Yes. That's common. Perhaps you should look into a book called Scrying For
Beginners, this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Scrying-Beginners-...+beginners
If you don't want to pay for it I guess you can find a PDF version.
I think you talked to me about it, didn't you ?
The thing is, I'm not sure I'll learn more than all that can be found on the
internet (relax, gazing through the mirror but without staring, mist/fog appearing
and then pictures).

(04-01-2013 07:32 AM)Angelo Wrote:
Look for a dream dictionary. It helps to interpret the meaning of symbols and
images in dreams, they can also be used for visions.
Yeah, I'll look for some explanations because it was odd. I only thought it was a
sign for me to rather scry with a glass of water instead of a dark mirror, but
there might be another explanation maybe.
Back again, new scrying session now till 3:00pm (it's 2:30pm now). GL me Smiling
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(04-01-2013 10:29 PM)Angelo Wrote:
Yes, I'm going to experiment with that. Though, in Koetting's Works of Darkness
that's basically how the evocation goes; basic astral circle, sigil of spirit, open
the sigil, perform a basic conjuration, gaze into mirror and converse with spirit.
So, I see no reason why it won't work but I'll experiment and see.

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(04-01-2013 10:49 PM)The God-King Wrote:
(04-01-2013 10:29 PM)Angelo Wrote:
Yes, I'm going to experiment with that. Though, in Koetting's Works of Darkness
that's basically how the evocation goes; basic astral circle, sigil of spirit, open
the sigil, perform a basic conjuration, gaze into mirror and converse with spirit.
So, I see no reason why it won't work but I'll experiment and see.
When do you expect your black mirror to come ?
End of the scrying session.
I'm improving but just a bit (very slow process) since everything tends to go
darker when I gaze into the mirror and the mist appears rather quickly. At least,
way quicker than yesterday and the days before.
BUT :
- nothing comes after the "mist moment"

- I enter in the same trance which makes me almost fall asleep. I can barely keep
my eyes opened and at some point I close them to fall asleep.
BUT (I know, lots of but) :
- this is when I can't keep my eyes open and I close them that I have images coming
in (I don't remember those a few minutes ago but I had some or this can be a
sentence in my head).
So, I'm totally lost.
Shall I have to fight not to fall asleep or can I go into that state with eyes
closed since things happen when I'm into that trance ??
EDIT : is Koetting's "Questing after visions" talking about 3rd eye like the title
may suggest ? I haven't read it yet.
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(04-01-2013 11:06 PM)Angelo Wrote:
According to Amazon, today or tomorrow.
(04-01-2013 11:06 PM)Angelo Wrote:

BUT :
Did you know that sleep deprivation is one of the classical methods of inducing
trance? So is fasting (basically starving yourself in this case).
(04-01-2013 11:06 PM)Angelo Wrote:

I have not read that book of his.


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(04-01-2013 11:06 PM)Angelo Wrote:
Hope it'll come today ! Smiling

Yep but that does not answer to my problem.
That mean I'd have to fight against the will to close my eyes when I feel like to,
hoping that I will then have pictures coming ?
Short break before I perform another scrying session.

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(04-01-2013 11:17 PM)Angelo Wrote:
Yep but that does not answer to my problem.
That mean I'd have to fight against the will to close my eyes when I feel like to,
hoping that I will then have pictures coming ?
Look into self hypnosis. That should help you fall into trance without feeling like
you're about to fall asleep.

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(04-01-2013 11:06 PM)Angelo Wrote:
(04-01-2013 11:06 PM)Angelo Wrote:

BUT :

(04-01-2013 11:06 PM)Angelo Wrote:
I have not read that book of his.
That book is indeed all about visions, special states of mind, meditation, ...
So no longer pretend
That you can't feel it near
That tickle on your hand
That tingle in your ear
Oh ask it anything
Because it loves you dear
It's your most precious king
If only you could hear
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OMG ! Not only do I have to struggle to gain astral vision but I will also have to
fight to have astral hearing too.
Just read that at the sec : "On a couple of occasions, I've seen Angels appear
before me but I'm not able to hear any 'sound'. I have seen their lips moving and I
know they are saying something to me but I can't hear it. This is very frustrating,
as you can imagine."
I imagine the situation lol, this is just horrible (and laughable too !)
Back in silent movies time !
I guess one has to both work on scrying and astral hearings. Was very naive
thinking once one can scry he can also hear.
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It WORKS
IT WORKS
IT WORKS.
Amazing.
I've used a Paracelsus oration.
IT WORKS.
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(04-05-2013 10:31 AM)LusPT Wrote:
It WORKS
IT WORKS
IT WORKS.
Amazing.
I've used a Paracelsus oration.
IT WORKS.
Could you elaborate a bit more please.


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Just a mirror and a candle, alone inside my room.
Impera tibi Spiritus, per verba, potestatem et vim, qua a Christo Jesu ipso Dei
filio et postea abipsius Apostolis ejectus est.
I sad it a lot of times. During the climax I've started to see different faces,
well they were not very clear but some of them were for a fraction of seconds. A
few minutes later it stopped. It was like a trance state. Now I'm feeling tired and
hungry.
What do you think about what I wrote God-King?
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Will you scry as soon as you receive it ?

(04-01-2013 07:32 AM)Angelo Wrote:

No. It's not for scrying. It's for evocation.

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When do you expect your black mirror to come ?

End of the scrying session.

- nothing comes after the "mist moment"

BUT (I know, lots of but) :

So, I'm totally lost.

According to Amazon, today or tomorrow.

(04-01-2013 11:06 PM)Angelo Wrote:

BUT (I know, lots of but) :

So, I'm totally lost.

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I have not read that book of his.

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(04-01-2013 11:13 PM)The God-King Wrote:

Yep but that does not answer to my problem.

Short break before I perform another scrying session.

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