AutoPIPE Vs CAESAR Load Combinations

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AutoPIPE vs CAESAR load combinations
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Original Author: Bentley Technical Support Group
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Items #1:
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In the end both AutoPIPE and CAESAR perform the same task of providing the user with stress analysis
results based on load cases applied to a geometric model of a piping system. However, there is a
fundamental dierence between both applications on how load combinations are combined.
The following will provide insight into AutoPIPE's approach vs CAESAR's:
First, please read the following document installed with AutoPIPE:
C:\ Bentley\ AutoPIPE V8i SELECTseries\ Load_Sequencing.pdf
OR, search your hard drive for "Load_Sequencing.pdf"
As you have read in the above document, one of the major fundamental dierences between AutoPIPE
and CAESAR, is load sequence verses load vector superposition. This is clearly shown on the first and
very lastpage (Summary) of this document. Referring to the last page of the document,results can
dier for calculating individual load cases (ex. E1) by using superposition (ex. [C-B]).
If you consider the following example:
L1 W+P1+T1(OPE) equivalent to AutoPIPE GRT1P1
L2 W+P1(SUS) equivalent to AutoPIPE GR + Max P
L3 T1 (EXP) thermal only, no mass etc, intermediate step for calcula ng hot sustained (L5)
no AutoPIPE equivalent
L4 L1-L2(EXP) equivalent to the AutoPIPE T1 case
L5 L1-L3(SUS) Hot sustained
Notethat both L1 and L2 are operating conditions, and L4 is CAESAR's superposition method of adding
load vectors to achieve an individual load case T1. Whereas in AutoPIPE, T1 is an individual load case
added in a load sequence to correctly calculate the operating conditions.
Furthermore,understandthat CAESAR needsintermediate equations like L3to calculate equations like

L5 - hot sustained. However,as younow knowAutoPIPE load sequence approach does not
needintermediate equations like that found in CAESAR. Thus reducing the complexity of load
combinations and length of output report.
In addition, what is the dierence between L2 and L5, where:
L2 = W+P1
L5 = L1-L3 = (W+P1+T1) - T1 = W+P1
Appears that L2 = L5.
Furthermore, what is the dierence between L3 and L4, where:
L3 = T1
L4 = (W+P1+T1) (W+P1) = T1
Appears that L3 = L4.
In conclusion, AutoPIPE has more advanced non-linear analysis engine with loadsequencing and as a
result users can expect more accurate non-linear results than from other programs.
If one must compare an AutoPIPE model with CAESAR, highly recommendcomparing true operating
conditions (ex. L1 to GRT1P1, L2 to GR+MaxP) instead of all the individual load case (ex. L3 & L4 to T1)
as the fundamental dierent approach of adding vectors / load cases use by the two programs may
present dissimilar results for individual load cases and respective combinations where such individual
load cases are used.
Furthermore, see the following WIKI here for details onReviewing 3 General methods used by Stress
Analysis computer programs:
One final note, be sure check that all of AutoPIPE's Tools> Model Options> General, Edit, & Results
settings match CAESAR's settings.
Item #2:
CAESAR CII has a H load variable which represents the hanger pre-loadsAutoPIPE doesn't seem to
have a hanger variabledoes AutoPIPE somehow automatically incorporate the hanger pre-loads?
Answer:
When inserting a typical variable spring in AutoPIPE the user is asked to enter 3 key values:
Cold Load, Spring rate, and number of hangers. These values are considered during the
analysis.
Otherwise, the user can specify that the program correctly size the spring based on load and
movement of the node point on the pipe. See online help for "Hanger Selection Procedure" in
AutoPIPE.
A spring hanger cold load is applied to the Gravity (GR) load case. For each combination that
contains (GR) spring cold load is applied.
Item #3:
CAESAR has a D1 load variable which represents the inclusion of a user-specified displacement.does
AutoPIPE incorporate something similar?
Answer: Yes, Insert> Xtra-Data>Imposed Support Displacement, see online help for complete
details on this AutoPIPE option.
As mentioned in the online help and apparent on the dialog screen, an imposed support
displacement can be assigned to any number of load cases (GR, T1-T100, E1-E10, W1-W10, P1-
P100, U1-U140, S1-S10) or configured to span a selection of load cases. When that load case is
used in a code / non-code combination, the specified imposed support displacement will be
applied accordingly.
Example, the following support displacement is applied to load case U1, and will only be
applied when U1 is included in a combination.
Item #4:
CAESAR has a F1 load variable which represents the inclusion of a user-specified external forcedoes
AutoPIPE incorporate something similar?
Answer: Yes, Insert> Xtra-Data>Concentrated Force, see online help for complete details on
this AutoPIPE option.
As mentioned in the online help and apparent on the dialog screen, an concentrated force can
be assigned to any number of load cases (GR, T1-T100, E1-E10, W1-W10, P1-P100, U1-U140) or
configured to span a selection of load cases. When that load case is used in a code / non-code
combination, the specified concentrated force will be applied accordingly.
Example, the following concentrated force is applied to load cases U1-U4, and will only be
applied when U1, U2, U3, or U4 is included in a combination.
Item #5:
Comprehensive Automatic Code Combinations.
VCR buttons allow fast navigation to sorted multiple maximum stresses across multiple stress
categories including maximum sustained stress, thermal range and all occasional stress
combinations which Caesar does not calculate automatically.
See Also
Bentley AutoPIPE
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The following will provide insight into AutoPIPE's approach vs CAESAR's:

First, please read the following document installed with AutoPIPE:

C:\ Bentley\ AutoPIPE V8i SELECTseries\ Load_Sequencing.pdf

OR, search your hard drive for "Load_Sequencing.pdf"

If you consider the following example:

L1 W+P1+T1(OPE) equivalent to AutoPIPE GRT1P1

L2 W+P1(SUS) equivalent to AutoPIPE GR + Max P

L4 L1-L2(EXP) equivalent to the AutoPIPE T1 case

L5 L1-L3(SUS) Hot sustained

Furthermore,understandthat CAESAR needsintermediate equations like L3to calculate equations like

In addition, what is the dierence between L2 and L5, where:

L5 = L1-L3 = (W+P1+T1) - T1 = W+P1

Appears that L2 = L5.

Furthermore, what is the dierence between L3 and L4, where:

Appears that L3 = L4.

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