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Today I would like to take you along a journey through Karate history, by exploring the
writings of the legendary Funakoshi Gichin, as we examine his historical outline of nine
lost throwing techniques of traditional Karate (nage-waza).

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Obviously, these techniques werent really lost during sensei Funakoshis time. In THE BEST KARATE GI
fact, many of his peers repeatedly demonstrated similar techniques in their writings. It
is only quite recently theyve begun to disappear from dojos around the world, as
punch-kick Karate is steadily taking the center stage of worldwide Karate attention.

Nevertheless, original Karate was far more than that!

So, with these words, let me to present to you The 9 Lost Throws of Funakoshi Gichin:
Karates Forgotten Takedown Techniques.

Here we go:

#1. Byobu Daoshi: Topple a Folding Screen

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As your opponent steps in with a middle punch (chudan-zuki), slide back and block the
strike with a dropping block (otoshi-uke) from the outside this time. Immediately grab
your opponents wrist with your blocking hand, pulling it strongly down to your hip, as

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you step forward with your leg slightly behind your opponent, placing your free hand on
his elbow joint as leverage, effortlessly spinning him around and down to the ground.

The key to really making koma nage work is to utilize the opponents incoming force,
executing the whole takedown in one smooth motion.

Think Aikido flow.

#3. Kubi Wa: Neck Ring

This throw starts out in a fashion similar to both of the previous throws.

As your opponent steps forward with a high punch towards your face (jodan-zuki), slide
to the outside and block high with your front hand.

Quickly slide forward (yori-ashi) past the outside of your opponents attacking arm,
striking him on the chin with your open hand (shotei-uchi). Then, as your opponent
flinches, promptly step in behind his front leg (fumi-komi) and circle your outstretched
arm behind your opponents neck, hugging it tight as your bring him down,
simultaneously pushing with your free hand at the small of his back to increase the
effectiveness

Interestingly enough, MMA fighters from my academy use a similar technique quite
often with great success!

#4. Katawa Guruma: Cripple Wheel

The katawa guruma, or cripple wheel (similar versions are also known as Firemans
Carry) is a quite popular move in many fighting arts that involve throws (like Judo,
Wrestling, Shuao Jiao etc.).

In this case, begin exactly like in thrown #2 (Koma Nage: Spinning Top Throw), by
sliding back to the outside and blocking your opponents feeble attempt at crushing your
solar-plexus (with a chudan-zuki). Next, move forcefully straight towards your
opponent and wedge the attacking arm between the two of you, as you smoothly slide
your blocking arm up and grab behind the neck of your opponent (heres where the
above images start to make sense).

Now, with your free hand, reach down between your opponents legs and seize his
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dumplings (or just grab a hold of his thigh), lifting up as high as possible while you pull
his neck down to your right backside.

Naturally, youll recognize this exact bunkai move from several kata (like
Kusanku/Kanku Dai, Passai/Bassai Dai, Unsu/Unshu etc.)

Awesome.

#5. Tsubame Gaeshi: Swallow Reversal

Funakoshi sensei was known for letting his poetry shine through when naming
techniques, and this move is no exception.

To perform the tsubame (lit. swallow, yes, the bird) gaeshi, step back and perform a
rising cross block (juji-uke/hasami-uke) with open hands to deflect your opponents
high punch (jodan-zuki), and immediately grab the attacking arm from the inside,
striking to your opponents jaw with a vicious backfist (ura-ken) strike.

Then (heres the tricky part); move towards your punch-drunk opponent in a circular
fashion, spinning around while at the same time dropping down to one knee, as you drag
your opponent to the ground by twisting his arm around, pulling your hands to your hip.

Just like a drunk swallow landing in its nest.

#6. Yari Dama: Spearing Through

In yet another throw that puts your opponents testicular fortitude to the test, your
opponent tries to punch you in the mouth again as you slide back and block the punch
with your open front hand from the inside (shuto-uke) just like in the first throw
(byobu daoshi).

As always, immediately proceed by grabbing your opponents attacking wrist with your
blocking hand, and then take a big step foward into a deep sumo stance (but Jesse-san,
thats weird, we dont have shiko-dachi in Shotokan!) and slam your free hand into
your opponents crown jewels. Laugh at your opponents newfound vocal range (note: if
he didnt turn into an opera singer after that last move, hes probably not a he), then
slide forward even deeper and finally finish the throw by pulling down to your left side,
while lifting up strongly from below.

The main principle is very similar to the katawa guruma (#4).

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#7. Tani Otoshi: Valley Drop

Although tani otoshi is one of the most common moves in competitive Judo nowadays,
this throw by Funakoshi sensei more resembles the modern-day version of seoi-
nage (albeit with a slightly broader stance) than anything else.

As your opponent lunges forward with a punch to your midsection, step back with your
right leg and parry the blow with your front hand, immediately grabbing the attacking
arm and pulling it to your side (the real meaning of hikite) while you execute a swift
counter strike to your opponents soft spot.

As your opponent flinches (if you havent figured it out by now; the purpose of these
numerous disruptive strikes (atemi-waza) is to take advantage of your opponents a
natural flinch response, or elicit a pain withdrawal reflex, thereby setting up the
subsequent takedown), step forward and swing your attacking arm under your
opponents outstretched arm, spin around and throw him over your shoulder to the
ground.

Finish off by threatening to end his misery, as in the last picture.

#8. Ude Wa: Arm Ring

To demonstrate that these throws work when defending from attacks other than
straight lunging punches, in this ude wa technique Funakoshi sensei defends against a
double handed lapel grab instead.

As your opponent approaches you with both arms outstretched, quickly deflect them
upwards and immediately sink into your opponent with double horizontal hammerfist
strikes against the midsection (I recommend aiming for the cartilaginous medial
portions of the ribs, since they break the easiest). As your opponent gasps for air, lean
down and hug his legs tightly while pushing strongly against his hip bone with your
shoulder, swinging his legs past yourself and dumping him on the ground.

A perfect example of the four principles of Quan-fa, by the way.

When you try this in the dojo, make sure your partner really knows his breakfalls
(ukemi), or else there might be a nasty neck injury on the schedule.

Also, do I even have to mention what kata this bunkai is from?

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#9. Gyaku Tsuchi: Reverse Sledgehammer

And lastly, my all-time personal favorite old-school Karate throw: the reverse
sledgehammer.

Or, as pro wrestlers call it; the piledriver.

As your opponent desperately tries to attack you, deflect his high punch (jodan-zuki) by
stepping back with a rising block (age-uke). Quickly slide forward and reach around his
upper back with your blocking hand as your free hand slides in front of his belly. Now
flip him over, laugh manically for a couple of seconds and finish off by dumping him on
his head.

________

And thats it.

Nine classic, yet pretty wild, Karate throws that you rarely see in the average dojo
straight from the horses mouth.

Try them out during your next Karate class!

In the meantime, I want to know what you think of Karate throws in


general?

Are they really that useful? Do we even need them? Can they
actually be performed by a weaker person (which, after all, is a
prerequisite for any effective Karate technique)?

Let me know in the comment section.

Thanks for reading!

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58 COMMENTS

paulh
July 26, 2012 at 10:49 pm

Awesome!
We do a lot of bunkai still today in our dojo (under direction from Nishida Sensei and Mabuni Sensei from Japan)
We try to have a takedown involved at the end of every bunkai. Im happy to say 8/9 of those you showed above are
quite familiar to us,
Gyaku Tsuchi being one I dont recall ever seeing before. Though I could be mistaken..Im quite often used to
demonstrate a new bunkai on from the more senior belts, and many times have no clue what I look like between
punching and hitting the floor lol

Said it before, but LOVE your website!

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Jesse
July 27, 2012 at 2:32 am

Thanks Paul-san, I know the feeling!

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Barry
April 28, 2013 at 10:57 pm

Hi Jesse, do you know of a list of common names of kumite takedowns/throws?

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Ray McKinnon
Novemb er 25, 2014 at 9:43 pm

In 1925 Funakoshi meet the founder of Judo Jigoro Kano. He gave a demonstration of Karate at the
National Athletic Exhibition put on by the Ministry of education (Kano helped developed the education
system in both Japan and China ) they became friends and Kano wanted Funakoshi to teach at the
Kodokan to start a Karate division Kano adopted certain Karate movements into Judo kata. Its said after
Kanos death in 1938 whenever Funakoshi was close to the Kodokan either waking or street car he would
bow in that direction out of respect for his Martial Arts friend.

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Greg
July 26, 2012 at 10:50 pm

Great read as always, thank you for taking the time to impart found knowledge

Greg

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Jesse
July 27, 2012 at 2:33 am

My pleasure, as always, Greg-san.

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Boban Alempijevic
July 27, 2012 at 1:07 am

Squeeeeee You made me night Jesse-San. Now we are talking, This is how Karate is in my eyes, Full of dirty

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brutal neck breaking tricks. Old karat is in my mind still filled with Well educated gentlemen that during the nights
turned into brawling master street fighters you did NOT want to piss off

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Jesse
July 27, 2012 at 2:33 am

Spot on, Boban-san!

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Leo
July 27, 2012 at 4:41 pm

Haha, thats exactly how I love to imagine karate:


Monsieur
-Monsieur
(noises of pain following)
.
This article is wonderful. But one question remains: it surely is more a demonstration of principle than
close combat reenactment, but does Funakoshi also mind the case in which the opponent has two arms?
Except #8, where I find it hard to imagine that one can let both arms of an opponent unsupervised while
hitting points which will likely result in the opponent jerking head and arms towards ones face. The
principle is clear, yes, but I cant get rid of the thought
Do not think of winning. Think, rather, of not losing.

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Todd
Feb ruary 2, 2013 at 10:26 pm

Leo,
I find it interesting that Jesse will reply to nearly every post except yours. I have been a traditional
Tae Kwon Do practitioner for 26 years, yet I am honest with my students when I teach them certain
techniques. They need to know that a good portion of techniques will only work in a dojo, or a
controlled Martial Arts situation. Opponents on the street do not get into a martial arts stance and
deliver a mid section punch with their right hand, and then stand still as they are thrown or handled.
Real opponents fight back. Traditional martial arts are just that.. traditional. As MMA competition
has taught us, the Arts need to adjust and constantly grow in order to maintain their relevance.

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ky0han
July 27, 2012 at 1:42 am

Hi Jesse,

nice article. But:


You just present the 9 throws that Funakoshi demonstrates in Karate Do Kyohan. He demonstrated 2 more trows
in his first 2 Books. So there are 11 throws total that Funakoshi presented to the world. I guess these 2 are really
lost!

Keep rolling. Regards Holger.

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Jesse
July 27, 2012 at 2:27 am

Thanks, I appreciate the input ky0han-san!

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Perry
April 1, 2013 at 8:13 pm

Hi Holger

Do you know which throws they were?

regards
Perry

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ky0han
April 2, 2013 at 1:03 am

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Hi Perry,

of course I do. In his 1922 book Ryukyu Kempo Karate Funakoshi listed 8 throws. Among them
were Nodo Osae and Ude Daoshi. In his 1925 book Rentan Goshin Tode Jutsu he presented 6
throws. Here is the Nodo Osae also listed. In his 1935 book Karate Do Kyohan there are those 9
throws. Over the years some throws got new names and in the case of the 1935 Tani Otoshi, that
throw is a completly different throw than the Tani Otoshi of 1922 and 1925. I wrote a blog post about
that (it is in German though) were I have those throws listed in a table. If you are interested:
http://www.karate-kyohan.de/wurfe-im-karate . I hope that helps.

Regards Holger

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Perry
April 5, 2013 at 9:40 am

Thank you Holger

Perhaps I should re-look at Funakoshis work

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Dave
July 27, 2012 at 3:15 am

Jesse-San, excellent post yet again. History is a most valuable teacher! Having trained again for just over a year
after many years out, I know this is the direction my karate is headed in.Osu! On another note, have you heard of a
british fellow by the name of Iain Abernethy? Look him up, you two are certainly cut from the same cloth in many
ways I think, and together with Taira Masaji Sensei are major influences on my own journey in Karate_Do

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Griff
July 27, 2012 at 3:46 am

Hi Jesse. Great site. Rest assured here in Canada Chito Ryu we are throwing each other all over the place.
Thanks for the article.

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Daniel
July 27, 2012 at 8:27 am

O acesso a esse site foi vedado de acordo com a IN N 006/03.


A categoria desse site est bloqueada ou no est categorizada.
Caso esse site esteja bloqueado de forma incorreta entre em contato com o Service Desk.

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paulh
August 1, 2012 at 5:45 pm

henshuho? good stuff, we still practise that today as well.

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juan manuel
January 24, 2013 at 12:33 am

Try trow me like these, and you will recive a big kick in your ass

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Jesse
July 27, 2012 at 11:36 am

Good to hear, Griff-san! Thanks!

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Stu
July 27, 2012 at 3:50 am

Are throws useful! Why damage my knuckles and feet on someone when there is a perfectly useful pavement
down there to bash them against.

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Jesse
July 27, 2012 at 11:37 am

Exactly, Stu-san!

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Matthew
July 27, 2012 at 4:02 am

I would love to become very proficient at all those throwing techniques! An important part of any karatekas training!
Just have to avoid getting hurt when its your turn to be a rag doll!

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Jesse
July 27, 2012 at 11:37 am

Which is exactly why I advise Karate-ka who are afraid of falling to take up Judo or Ju-jutsu for a couple of
weeks. Works wonders!

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Kitsune
August 22, 2012 at 11:12 pm

Or be proficient enough to teach your own students proper ukemi. You may never have to defend
yourself in your life, but YOU WILL FALL! Ukemi is the most useful aspect of martial arts training in
my opinion.

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Te'o
July 27, 2012 at 4:38 am

Jesse-san! Loved this article, very informative. One of the important things that we try to keep in mind in our
training, besides safety, is how do these techniques work outside the dojo. So at least once every couple of
months we train in regular clothes that would relate to the season that were in. Right now we have the students
come in t-shirts, board shorts, and flip flops. Not only does this bring in the mental aspect of how to adapt the
technique, but the physical now that there isnt as much to grab onto, etc. Ever tried to do an entering technique
and step on your own flip flop? Actually, its kind of funnyin training of course. Once againgreat article, keep it
up, and.I need a new KATA Gi!!!! Alofas Braddah!!!

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Jesse
July 27, 2012 at 11:36 am

Teo -- as always, I love your approach to practical Karate!

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Julia
July 27, 2012 at 5:23 am

You sir, are obviously dangerous to my health. Open finding this article, I jumped up and began miming the
motions for the throws in air. I think I was on the fourth throw when my hand slammed into the nearby door,
causing me a great amount of pain. So thank you. So much.

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Jesse
July 27, 2012 at 11:39 am

Julia-san -- it was my PLEASURE!

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Diego Romero
July 27, 2012 at 9:41 am

nice!

i must say though that for the type of throw shown in numbers 1 and 3 id be more inclined to go for the face than
for the chin. some people have crazily strong necks, but press hard into the face and slide up (compress the nose
bridge), and either the head or the nose go, no questions asked.

re: karate throwing (and joint-locking) in general, im more of a fan of not having specific formal techniques, but
rather of having knowledge of grappling principles and using them in conjunction with maai and tai sabaki and
one big body control whole (accentuated by well-placed atemi to soften up and/or finish the target), but of course
one requires good knowledge of grappling in the first place (which is why god invented cross-training in judo).

as for your specific questions:

Are they really that useful?

is a tsuki useful?

Do we even need them?

do we need a tsuki?

Can they actually be performed by a weaker person (which, after all, is a prerequisite for any effective Karate
technique)?

THAT is why we need a useful tsuki first :p

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Dave
July 27, 2012 at 11:39 am

blow before throw is a useful little reminder of the mechanics of controlling the attacker. Whats that 4 point
principle again? entry/stick to them/destroy balance/finishor somethinganybody???

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Steve Gombosi
Feb ruary 12, 2014 at 11:21 pm

Or, as the instruction for pretty much every technique in Morihei Ueshibas pre-war book Budo begins:
First, smash your enemys face.

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Vag
July 27, 2012 at 1:11 pm

And dont forget that Hironori Ohtsuka the founder of Wado Ryu and expert in JJ was for years his assistant.So
And If you look who is the opponent in the photos then thats your answer

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shankar
Decemb er 8, 2013 at 1:09 pm

NO WAY.
Youve got to be right he looks a lot like Ohtsuka, unfortunately we cant be sure cause we only have
photos of him in old age

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Kevin
July 27, 2012 at 7:25 pm

All the Okinawan systems I have ever studied teach 100s of throws, joint locks, and other things commonly
aassociates with jujutsu, aikijujutsu, and china. It is only modern Japanese and Korean and sportified karate in
general that leaves them out.

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elC
July 30, 2012 at 3:54 pm

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Hey great article!


Very kind of you to show the karate world that theres more than zukis and keris.
These 9 throws are actually part of the yodan test (yes, neither Yoda nor yondan) within Ohshimas Shotokan.
These are almost never practiced below shodan, maybe sometimes in a kata bunkai variation.
I was lucky to visit a seminar where a sandan was preparing for that test, so we went through all 9 of them.
I think we karateka should practice these more often, also to defend ourselves better from throws, trips,
takedowns to stay on our feet.
Check youtube for Gracie Jiu-Jitsu vs. Karate, youll find a great 6 minute video from 1975 (?)

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elC
July 30, 2012 at 5:40 pm

Maybe you should add that the piledriver (#9. Gyaku Tsuchi) is even forbidden in most MMA rulesets, and should
be practiced without slamming your partner down. But you can practice that with a bag.

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frederic lecut
July 31, 2012 at 6:56 pm

I have somewhere a video of Katsuoh Yamamoto -- founder of Yoshukai Karate -- student of Tsuyoshi Chitose --
performing gyaku tsuchi at a demo in Florida in the mid 70s. Hard to believe

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July 31, 2012 at 8:32 pm

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A categoria desse site est bloqueada ou no est categorizada.
Caso esse site esteja bloqueado de forma incorreta entre em contato com o Service Desk.

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edison rookard
August 2, 2012 at 1:03 am

wow havent seen thoses throws in the oreganal settings way to go thanks jesse edison rookard (aka mr ed)

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IluvShitoRyu
August 5, 2012 at 8:09 am

Thank you for the excellent essay. To each is own, but I long ago stopped looking for hidden judo throws inside
the kata of traditional Japanese karate.

Taking traditional judo classes 2X per week is much more effective, in my opinion.

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Jesse
August 6, 2012 at 8:02 pm

AMEN!

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Mike
August 8, 2012 at 10:56 pm

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Very cool. Also I believe that Hideyuki Ashihara carried this concept into his Ashihara Karate and we continue it in
Enshin Karate(founded by Joko Ninomiya who was also a Judo Blackbelt). We have most of these same throws
in our basic Kata. Osu!

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viking
August 13, 2012 at 5:43 pm

I always thought the throws fell into disuse because shotokan stance became lower, and the moves finished with
focus which meant there was no momentum to throw anybody.

Once both partoes have practiced the throws they just cancel each other out. I always thought Funkoshis stances
where higher and with freakish stnaces that shotokan developed into made the throws difficult with oppenent that
knows the same moves and isnt going to punch through as they want to show the focus.

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Michael
Octob er 15, 2012 at 4:52 pm

Goju-ryu still has its kakie which embodies many of these throws and is activity taught:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRg2XTIzhmI

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Ross
Novemb er 26, 2012 at 5:18 pm

Interesting to see that you include Kata Garuma as a technique. Any idea where the origins of this might be from
since Kano Sensei was known to have learnt this from observing western wrestlers. It is interesting that it
appears to exist in ?Okinawan circles when it wasnt used in Japan.

Interesting subject.

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jane
Decemb er 8, 2012 at 8:03 pm

thanks alot. I really appreciate. Its like you read my mind.


pls i would also like youtube links of these throws.
Lastly i will need the link of the youtube vids posted here so i can share with friends. Thanks

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Todd Ward
Decemb er 9, 2012 at 11:30 pm

Open the vids up in Youtube and cut and paste the addresses. Youtube is pretty search friendly if you
looked for the throws, but some are a little rare (im sure a search for gyaku tsuchi will get a lot of gyaku
tsuki hits.

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Jon Doe
Decemb er 21, 2012 at 11:21 pm

These arent lost throws ,they just arent practiced by sport karate. Look at Karate-do Kyohan and Shotokan Karate
of America. They havent lost them.

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Danie
March 24, 2013 at 9:16 am

We tend to study Jujitsu and Karate, and once you know both you start seeing throws in everything. Its loads of
fun, too! These are all semi familiar in some ways, because of spending time figuring out what all is in those
moves we do over and over again but this makes me want to go and try all of them.

Except maybe the pile driver. I like being able to practice with my ukis more than once.

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Richard Langenstein
May 14, 2013 at 10:25 pm

Not really new or forgotten. These are all the the Japanese version of Karate Do Kyohan, and an English copy can

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be bought from neptune-publications.com. The original English version left these and a lot more out.

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Eric
Septemb er 28, 2013 at 8:56 pm

Wonder if Isshin Ryu has any throws? I have heard in its Wansu Kata there is one throw? Anymore?

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Peter G.N. GRIFFIN


June 18, 2014 at 12:07 pm

Dear All,

Please refer to TWO (2) highly TRAINED and experienced teachers who ARE the authorities with contracts
specifically to operators in Close Personal Protection Details, International Agencies, including the Special
Branch Police, TOKYO, and others in JAPAN.

These teacher names are :

KATSUYUKI Kondo Hanshi (Daito-Ryu), and


NARIYAMA Hanshi (Tomiki Aikido).

One can observe simply by accessing these on YOUTUBE.

In the REAL world -- punching and kicking someone 99% of the time escalates the aggressor turning the odds in
their favour not yours. Therefore, to survive a street attack, one MUST know and be able to perform Nagewaza
WITH THE UTMOST FEROCITY AND SPEED !

Hence, throwing an attacker into concrete, (either a brick wall, or the ground) ALWAYS results in the threat being
neutralized !

My suggestion for those without access to the aforementioned schools -- attend a JUDO school with students that
are police officers, and preferably with the Head Sensei being of ex-special forces background, or in Policing as
these people live it in their professions !

This is also WHY most UFC / MMA bouts end up on the ground -- however to an untrained attacker whose NOT an
UFC / MMA champion is in for a rude awakening as being they being the UKE, one doesnt bounce on solid
concrete.

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Nisaa
Novemb er 24, 2014 at 9:24 pm

Great !!!

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Dave J
Novemb er 25, 2014 at 4:32 am

I teach my students ukemi as part of their regular training. Being an Aikidoka as well as a karateka I see Aikido
throws in all the Wado Ryu kata and encourage my students to find them and practice to see what works for them.
Typical throws found in Pinan katas are Tai Otoshi, Tenshin Nage, Irimi Nage, Juji Nage, Kote Gaeshi, Shiho
Nage to name just a few. ALL katas contain throws if you look for them. Its simply a matter of finding the ones that
work for you. Great to see someone else encouraging a return to original karate Jesse.

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Tan
Novemb er 25, 2014 at 6:37 am

Hi Jesse, thanks for the information.

But IMO I think there is a blurred line to claim these techniques as olden days Karate techniques, because I see
most of them a lot more frequent in other martial art styles even in modern days.

And here is why:


#3 Neck Ring is common in Krav Maga.

#4 Cripple Wheel I have seen that in WKF kumite. (this is alright)

#8 Arm Ring is just double-leg takedown in wrestling.

#9 As you have already mentioned, it is called Piledriver in pro wrestling, and The Undertaker version is
Tombstone Piledriver lol.

And the rest are very common in Judo and Aikido, thats all. We just got to admit that Karate doesnt move away
from punch-kick. It is more practical for a martial art style to be focused and specialized in a certain area rather
than trying to be well-rounded. The problem with many traditional martial arts (not only Karate) is they always try to
look well-rounded. This way this particular martial art style will end up having everything a little but good at none!
For example boxing doesnt teach you to wrestle at all but they are so good at fists, they have so many tactics and
knowledge fighting with their fists. If you want to learn takedowns or grappling you better go for wrestling or BJJ as

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an additional class on top of your Karate training.

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vic
Novemb er 25, 2014 at 3:07 pm

Initially way back when I was taught major inner and outer O SOTO and KO SOTO geri as the most effective for self
defense and circumstances proved that to be true during my 2 year stint as a door man at a local bucket of blood
establishment.The inner outer minor reaps proved highly effective in tournament play also as they could be done
hands free.Done aggresively rather than defensively they work even better just have to overcome the hesitation to
close with the opponent which seems prevalent in so much sport karate.That last throw was taught to us as to
pound a postwhich left one with the impression it was a repeat as neccesary technique lol.

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