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i3uller DIY: Dissasembling and cleaning throttle body internals 01-12-2010 10:45 PM #1
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There is already a DIY on removing and cleaning your TB here:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1116399

I have been getting an Angle Sensor 2 implausible signal error lately and thought I might as well tear it open and take a look before I go
dump a bunch of money on a new TB. I'm not responsible if you screw up your throttle body. I am not and don't claim to be a
Join Date: Oct 5th, 2005 mechanic and my advice should be taken for the amateur work that it is. Now that that's out of the way let's get started.
Posts: 303 Follow the previous link and pull your TB out and clean the gunk out if you'd like. Mine was absolutely disgusting so I would highly
recommend it. So now you have your TB out.

The part we are going to be working on is underneath the black plastic piece. There are 6 of these metal clips holding the piece on.

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Use a small flathead screwdriver to gently pry them off without bending them. They should come off relatively easily. Once they are all off
use the same flathead and gently pry the black piece off by rotating the flathead. It should come off quite easily.
The black piece you just took off has the following underneath it.

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Very gently clean the area with a q tip or soft cloth or even better use an electrical cleaning kit. Most of these can be picked up at a
computer store etc. On the actual TB you will see the following:

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Now the way the position sensor works is the 4 metal "rakes" on the largest gear drag across the black portion of the black plastic piece
that we took off of the TB. Depending on the gear position/throttle position the metal pieces will move across the black portion and send a
reading back to the ECU. The red box shows the location of the 4 "rakes" and the other picture shows the way they track across the black
piece.

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I did a general cleaning of the gears and the middle sized gear is actually easily removed by pulling it straight up and that allows more
cleaning inside. I marked the position of the gearing with a pencil to make sure I could put it back exactly how I pulled it apart.
I also VERY GENTLY pulled up on the "rakes". That way when I put the black plastic piece back on there would be very positive contact
between all the rakes and the black tracking portion. I believe this was the underlying problem as the number 2 rake was not achieving a
constant contact with the tracking portion.
Assembly is the reverse of disassembly but make sure when you put the black plastic piece back on the throttle body that you line up the
small gasket in its slot. If it isn't lined up you will see a gap between the TB and the plastic piece and putting the metal clips on will take a
LARGE amount of force. It takes a bit of work but it goes back together I swear.
After that just throw everything back together and see if it works. So far I haven't gotten any of the problems I had during my angle
sensor issue. I highly recommend at least giving this a try if you are getting a similar TB code as I have been. Again I don't know much
about what I'm doing and unless you are getting a code like I am I don't see any benefit in doing this and don't recommend it. But if you
are do this and it just might save you from dumping a bunch of cash on a brand new TB.

Oh and final step:

Modified by i3uller at 5:28 PM 1-12-2010

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PhReE Re: DIY: Dissasembling and cleaning throttle body internals (i3uller) 01-12-2010 11:11 PM #2
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Very good dude! (havent read it all yet, but on a breezer it looks good to me)

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Veedub_junky FV-QR 01-12-2010 11:40 PM #3

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Very nice work - less intimidating than I thought it'd be, given the sensitivity of the DBW TB's I've heard about. Something I think I'd only
try if I was down to either doing that or replacing the whole TB anyway. Many 's to you. Thanks for sharing, and keep us posted if
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apstguy 01-13-2010 02:13 AM #4

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Great info, thanks for your investigation. I always wonder what exactly was in there...

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ballski Re: DIY: Dissasembling and cleaning throttle body internals (i3uller) 01-13-2010 10:16 AM #5
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for you
Thanks sir

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dstannus Re: DIY: Dissasembling and cleaning throttle body internals (i3uller) 02-01-2010 10:47 AM #6
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Join Date: Jan 27th, 2010 You, sir, deserve all my appreciation. I just followed your step by step, and my VR is now running like a top. The increase in power and
Posts: 1 smoothness is very, very satisfying.
I was having problems before where my engine would be surging almost all the time esp during shifting and cruising. That's gone.

My car has a cold air intake, so I'm not so surprised that the throttle was dirty, but it sure loved that cleaning.

Thanks very much!

Dan

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i3uller Re: DIY: Dissasembling and cleaning throttle body internals (dstannus) 02-06-2010 02:23 AM #7
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Good to hear someone got some benefits out of it!

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koko5869 Re: DIY: Dissasembling and cleaning throttle body internals (i3uller) 02-06-2010 10:01 AM #8
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out of need comes greatness [IMG]http://*****************.com/smile/emthup.gif[/IMG]
nice write up.

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Soundwave_vr6 06-08-2011 10:12 PM #10

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thanks fixed my Sh!t box

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35i 2000 03-08-2012 12:00 AM #11

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awesome thread mate!

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