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18 Oct 2006 , 11:49 AM #1

RedPillNeo A chat with a former Raytheon employee- what are they saying

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I recently had a very interesting chat with a client of mine who used to
work for Raytheon. I remember right after 911, this person was saying
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they lost a lot of employees and were rather upset. Years went by, and
Location: Los Angeles- future this person came by recently so I asked them (kind of point blank) what
false flag target is the talk in the halls of Raytheon about 911?
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The response was rather stunning. They say people there talk of the
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They said there have been HUNDREDS of early retirements in the last
few years, implying that the people did not want to be associated with
Raytheon anymore as their reason.

They also said that three employees made donations to "this site called
loose change dot com" [sic] and were later called to the head office,
fired summarily and stripped of ALL security clearances, and ESCORTED
off the property by security. Dylan said he doesn't remember them
personally, but they may have purchased something from the online
store.

They said people talk of no plane crashing in Pennsylvania. They used

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the words, "No blood found."

All I did was ask them "What is the talk around the halls of Raytheon
about 911?" and they volunteered the above, before I started talking
myself.

I gave them a copy of Loose Change (old version ) and they eagerly
said they would burn copies for former colleagues, and that they had
heard talk of the movie, and that people would be interested.

Very interesting info, from a source I personally trust.


Cheers,
-Neo
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18 Oct 2006 , 19:55 PM #2

chaz_lights This is great nes, Neo. FINALLY people are saying what they think. I
Reader hope more and more that this filters out into the general population.
Thanks so much for posting this...stuff like this makes my day!
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18 Oct 2006 , 19:58 PM #3

Phil Jayhan Ya, Red, this is good news! At least it seems like the employees have
Admin some morals! Do they think that Raytheon has something to do with
911? Cause you sort of implied this, but it wasn't really clear...

cheers-
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18 Oct 2006 , 20:03 PM #4

chaz_lights This is a good question, Phil.


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18 Oct 2006 , 21:38 PM #5

RedPillNeo Did Raytheon have anything to do with 9/11? Good question. I know of
Privileged no hardproof, but I will share some conjectures from around the web.

Join Date: 16 Jun 2004 A good detective will look at the motive, means, and opportunity, when
considering whether some entity is a suspect.
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false flag target
Raytheon is a leader in flight systems. They own a fleet of A3 sky
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believe they are a leader in remote control systems for jets. They were
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Here is one page I found quickly; googling Raytheon plus any 9/11
keyword yields millions of hits, so happy corroborating.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread142784/pg1

There were five senior Raytheon employees spread out on three of the
four 9/11 planes. Those who have studied Operation Northwoods raise
an eyebrow at that! It certainly is something to think about.

Of course, they could just be innocent people who are now dead. We
must not go so deep into speculation that we forget and declare them
guilty of 9/11 complicity.

If I hear back from the person, I will post what they say.
-Neo
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18 Oct 2006 , 22:32 PM #6

Phil Jayhan Redpill,


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Ya, the 5 senior executives on 3 of the flights is certainly a tip-off,
especially when it appears that two of the flights, flight 11 & 77 were
not in the BTS database and it is doubtful they were even flights on
911!

You have an entire planefull of mostly Pentagon people and Defense


contractors, and yet they all simply allowed 4 arabs with box cutters to
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overwhelm the flight crew and take control of the airplane. Not even
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remotely believable. You can tell it is scripted!
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all passengers, and they wanted to make civilians the heroes! But I
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showed them didn't I? I rightfully took back what they wrongfully
hijacked, the phrase "Lets Roll"

Such a dick, aren't I?

cheers-
phil

If there is a way to find out what those 5 executives did at Raytheon,


that would be swell! [Said like the Beaver from "Leave it to Beaver"]
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20 Oct 2006 , 12:24 PM #7

Chuck_Schick Raytheon says only 4, not 5.


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* Peter Gay, 54, of Tewksbury, Mass., a vice president of operations for
Join Date: 25 Oct 2004 Electronic Systems based in Andover, Mass., 28 years of service

Location: Undisclosed * Stanley Hall, 68, of Clifton, Va., director of program management in
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Arlington, Va., 17 years of service
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* David P. Kovalcin, 42, of Hudson, N.H., senior mechanical engineer for
Threads: 4 Electronic Systems in Tewksbury, Mass., 15 years of service
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* Kenneth E. Waldie, 46, of Methuen, Mass., senior quality control
engineer for Electronic Systems in Andover, Mass., 17 years of service

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/mi...E=Sep+12,+2001
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20 Oct 2006 , 12:35 PM #8

Chuck_Schick Here is another article that says 5.


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2001-09-11 Stanley Hall Raytheon Director of Electronic warfare
Join Date: 25 Oct 2004 program management. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the
Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American
Location: Undisclosed airlines Flight 77, the one that supposedly hit the Pentagon but did not.
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Posts: 13 2001-09-11 Peter Gay Raytheon VP of Electronic Systems on special


assignment at the El Segundo, CA division office where the Global Hawk
Threads: 4 UAV remote control system is made. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3
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on American airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North
World Trade Tower I.

2001-09-11 Kenneth Waldie Raytheon Senior Quality Control for


Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the
Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American
airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade
Tower I.

2001-09-11 David Kovalcin Raytheon Senior Mechanical Engineer for


Electronic Systems. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3 that hit the
Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared on American
airlines Flight 11, the one that supposedly hit the North World Trade
Tower I.

2001-09-11 Herbert Homer Raytheon Corporate Executive working


with the Department of Defense. Raytheon did the retrofit of the A-3
that hit the Pentagon, where Bush claimed Flight 77 hit it. Disappeared
on United airlines Flight 175, the one that supposedly hit the South
World Trade Tower II.

http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/...ection-to-9-11
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20 Oct 2006 , 12:40 PM #9

Chuck_Schick One more bit of info about Raytheon and the Military Industrial Complex
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.....More than any administration in history, the Bush team has relied on
Join Date: 25 Oct 2004 the expertise of former weapons contractors to outline US defense
needs. Thirty-two major Bush appointees are former executives,
Location: Undisclosed consultants or major shareholders of top weapons contractors.
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Seventeen administration appointees had ties to major defense
Posts: 13 contractors Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman or Raytheon prior to
joining the Bush team. These include former Lockheed Chief Operating
Threads: 4 Officer Peter B Teets, now undersecretary of the Air Force and director
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Roche, a former Northrop Grumman vice president; and Secretary of
the Navy Gordon England, a former General Dynamics vice president.

The theory behind Rumsfeld's reliance on former corporate executives


was that they would be more willing to cut costs and try new
approaches than the average Pentagon bureaucrat. However, that
clearly has not been the case.

The geopolitical reach of the defense megafirms is reinforced by millions


of dollars in campaign cash. In 2000, the top six military companies
spent more than $6.5 million in contributions to candidates and political
parties. In addition to these hefty campaign donations, defense
contractors spent an astonishing $60 million on lobbying in 2000, the
most recent year for which full statistics are available.

Full story http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/DI28Ak01.html


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20 Oct 2006 , 13:45 PM #10

Ethan Hunt There were many high-tech pros on "Flight 77" which is the key to this
Free Mind whole operation. You had Barbara Olson making phony phone calls to
her husband Ted Olson the guy who convinced the Supreme Court to
Join Date: 2 May 2006 install Bush as Prez. He then goes on CNN to publicize the phone calls.
You also had Burlingame as the top gun pilot doing his own war game
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flight was part of the overall war game exercises going on that day. A
few brave whistle blowers from inside Raytheon could expose everything
fast.
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