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Table of Contents

Important Safety Information ........................................1 Rear Pedestal Specification Sheet ..........................42

Internal Flo-Fuse™ ......................................................7 Fender Measurement ..............................................43

Maintaining your Mixer Hydrostatic Pump and Motor Open Center Chute Block ........................................44
System..........................................................................9
Open Center Chute Valve Assembly
Gauge Installation Location ........................................15 HOLD POSITION ......................................................45

Troubleshooting Your Mixer Hydrostatic System ....17 Open Center Chute Valve Assembly
RAISE POSITION ....................................................46
How to use the Fault Logic Charts ............................23
Open Center Chute Valve Assembly
Troubleshooting Hydraulic Pumps and Motors ..........24 LOWER POSITION ..................................................47

Diagram Action Steps ..............................................28 Open Center Chute Valve Troubleshooting................48

Eaton Hydraulic Division, Eaton Hydrostatic Pump - Ball Maintenance Periodic Inspection ............................49
Guide ..........................................................................30
Roller Adjustments ..................................................51
Control Valve - Old Style ............................................32
Universal Drive Shaft ..................................................52
Control Valve - New Style S/N 0986 and higher ........33
Pump and Universal Alignment ................................53
Charge Pump Rotation Identification ........................34
ZF Drum Drives ........................................................54
Valve Plate Rotation ................................................35
ZF Drum Drives ..........................................................55
Broken Pump Shaft ..................................................36
Fluid Power Equivalents ............................................56
Hydrostatic Installation and Clean and Flush
Procedures ................................................................37 Common Abbreviations ..............................................57

Recommendations for Hydraulic Fluid Index ..........................................................................59


Specifications ..........................................................38

Mixer Oil Specs ........................................................39

Water Tank Measurement ........................................41

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Important Safety Information
IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION UNFAMILIAR WITH THE OSHA LOCK OUT
PROCEDURES OR ANY SAFETY REQUIREMENTS,
READ AND UNDERSTAND THIS ENTIRE MANUAL PLEASE CONTACT MCNEILUS TRUCK AND
BEFORE OPERATING, REPAIRING, OR ADJUSTING MANUFACTURING AT (507) 374-6321 FOR
YOUR MCNEILUS MIXER. THOSE WHO USE AND ASSISTANCE.
MAINTAIN THIS EQUIPMENT MUST BE
THOROUGHLY TRAINED AND FAMILIAR WITH THE
PRODUCT. IF INCORRECTLY USED OR ! WARNING
MAINTAINED, THIS EQUIPMENT CAN CAUSE Anytime you are working on this equipment or its
SEVERE INJURY. related systems, you must do the following:

Always keep this manual in a location where it is readily 1. Inform the truck driver that the equipment is
available for persons who operate or maintain the going to be repaired and locked out and that he
product. Additional copies of this manual are available must not attempt to start the truck.
from McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing; (507) 374- 2. Follow all OSHA and Mixer Lock Out procedures.
6321 at no charge. Please contact McNeilus Truck and Remove the keys from the truck’s ignition.
Manufacturing if you require additional manuals or if you 3. Place magnetic signs on both doors of the truck
have any questions concerning the information in this which read:
manual or this product. “CAUTION - MAN WORKING ON MIXER - DO
NOT START ENGINE”
Some service operations may require special tools,
4. Lock out supplies are available from McNeilus
equipment, or blocking devices (such as the body hoist
Truck and Manufacturing. Call (507) 374-6321
or tailgate). If you require information on these items,
for assistance.
please contact McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at
(507) 374-6321 before attempting these repairs and
READ, UNDERSTAND, AND FOLLOW THE SAFETY
service operations.
GUIDELINES, DANGERS, AND WARNINGS LISTED
THESE SAFETY PROCEDURES ARE FOR YOUR BELOW AND CONTAINED IN THIS MANUAL TO
OWN PROTECTION. PROMOTE RELIABLE OPERATION AND PREVENT
SERIOUS PERSONAL INJURY.
DO NOT OPERATE OR REPAIR THIS EQUIPMENT
UNTIL YOU HAVE READ THIS MANUAL AND
UNDERSTAND ITS CONTENTS THOROUGHLY. ! WARNING
PLEASE CALL MCNEILUS TRUCK AND Hydraulic hoses, fittings, and pipe must be
MANUFACTURING AT (507) 374-6321 IF YOU inspected on a daily basis for leaks, cuts, abrasions,
REQUIRE ASSISTANCE! damage, aging, improper clearance, and along the
frame for hidden damage. If you find hoses with any
SHOULD AN OPERATOR OF THIS EQUIPMENT such adverse conditions or damage, they must be
HAVE A READING OR LEARNING DISABILITY, replaced before the mixer is returned to service! In
DYSLEXIA, OR OTHER SUCH CONDITION, THEN HE any event, all hydraulic hoses must be replaced
OR SHE MUST BE ASSIGNED A MENTOR/TRAINER every two years. Failure to properly inspect and
TO READ AND EXPLAIN TO SUCH INDIVIDUAL THE maintain your mixer may result in serious personal
ENTIRE CONTENTS OF THIS MANUAL AS WELL AS injury.
THE SAFETY GUIDELINES, DANGER, CAUTION AND
WARNING DECALS AND PLACARDS AFFIXED TO
THIS UNIT. SUCH INDIVIDUAL SHOULD NOT BE ! WARNING
ALLOWED TO OPERATE THIS EQUIPMENT UNTIL Hydraulic systems are hot. DO NOT TOUCH!
HE OR SHE THOROUGHLY UNDERSTANDS ALL OF Serious personal injury may result from hot oil.
THESE MATERIALS. FAILURE TO DO SO CAN When you have completed working on the hydraulic
RESULT IN SERIOUS PERSONAL INJURY OR systems, thoroughly clean any spilled oil from the
DEATH. equipment. Do not spill any hydraulic fluids on the
ground. Clean any hydraulic fluids from your skin
SAFETY AND SAFE WORKING PROCEDURES MUST as soon as you have completed your maintenance
BE FOLLOWED AT ALL TIMES. OSHA LOCK OUT and repairs. Dispose of used oil and filters as
PROCEDURES MUST BE FOLLOWED WHEN required by law.
MAINTAINING THIS EQUIPMENT. IF YOU ARE

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Introduction and Safety Procedures 1
Important Safety Information
! WARNING ! WARNING
Hydraulic systems operate under high pressure - Do not heat hydraulic pipe. The carbon content of
only experienced persons should attempt repairs or this steel tube is such that if heated for bending, and
troubleshooting on hydraulic systems. either water or air quenched, the pipe may lose its
ductility and thereby be subject to failure under high
pressure or hydraulic shock conditions. Damaged
! WARNING or leaking pipes must be replaced before the mixer
Correct hoses, fittings, and adapters with the is returned to service. Please contact McNeilus
correct SAE rating must be used when replacing Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 if you
hoses to prevent possible serious injury. Always require assistance or have questions.
replace hoses, fittings, and adapters with
replacements that have a proper, suitable working
pressure rating. Replacement hoses must be of the ! WARNING
correct length and must comply with the hose All hydraulic pressures must be relieved from the
manufacturer’s installation guidelines and hydraulic system prior to removing any components
recommendations. Consult hose and fitting from the system to prevent oil from spraying or
manufacturers for correct specifications or contact functions and systems from falling. Call McNeilus
McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 374- Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 for
6321. Hydraulic hoses have the SAE ratings marked information concerning relieving the hydraulic
on the hose to assist you in selecting the correct pressures.
hose. Any replacement hydraulic hoses and fitting
assemblies must be supplied by the same
manufacturer. As an example: Brand “A” hose and ! WARNING
brand “B” fitting will not normally be compatible. Increasing hydraulic pressure beyond the
No “twist” is allowed in the hydraulic hoses. recommendations may result in serious damage to
“Twist” may result in premature hose failure. Please the mixer or serious personal injury. If you have
contract McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at (507) questions concerning hydraulic pressures or testing
374-6321 for assistance when required. procedures, please contact McNeilus Truck and
Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 before attempting
the test procedures or making adjustments.
! WARNING
Never remove hydraulic lines, fittings, and adapters
until all pressure has been relieved from the ! WARNING
hydraulic system. Contact McNeilus Truck and When performing hydraulic test procedures, use the
Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 for assistance if proper hydraulic gauges. Installing an incorrect test
required. gauge could result in serious injury if the gauge
fails. Use properly rated hydraulic hoses to allow
the test gauge to be read away from moving parts
! WARNING and functions. Contact McNeilus Truck and
Hydraulic components can be heavy. Use caution Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 for assistance.
while lifting these components. Serious personal
injury can be avoided with proper handling of the
components. ! WARNING
Use the proper tools and equipment when servicing
the hydraulic system. Use only the McNeilus
! WARNING charging kit when recharging the accumulator. Call
Any hydraulic pipe which is replaced must conform McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321
to SAE J1065 specifications. If incorrect hydraulic for assistance, if required.
pipe is installed, the hydraulic system may fail.
Damage or leaking pipes must be replaced before
the mixer is returned to service. Please contact ! WARNING
McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 Never operate the hydraulic system if a leak is
for assistance. present.

2 Introduction and Safety Procedures © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Important Safety Information

! WARNING ! WARNING
Never enter under the chassis unless the mixer is in Use slower speeds when going around curves or
the Lockout mode. Remember to follow the Lockout corners. You are carrying a higher center of gravity
procedures when working under the truck load.

! WARNING ! WARNING
When working on the mixer, the wheels must be At the job site use the lowest transmission gear and
blocked, the parking brake on, Lock Out procedures proceed at low speed, 3 MPH maximum, to the
in effect, and the keys out of the truck’s ignition. discharge area.

! WARNING ! WARNING
The mixer must not be modified in any way without Always keep hands and feet clear of the mixer drum,
authorization from McNeilus Truck and revolving parts, and moving parts while checking
Manufacturing. Modifications may not comply with load or washing down the mixer.
safety standards, including ANSI safety standards,
and may result in serious personal injury. Please
contact McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at (507) ! WARNING
374-6321 if you require assistance. Do not climb on ladders or ride on platforms while
the truck is in motion or when ladders or platforms
are wet or slippery. Serious personal injury may
! WARNING result due to a fall.
When using the emergency jumper procedure to
rotate the drum on a disabled mixer the following
must be observed: Before removing the hydraulic ! WARNING
motor from the mixer drive on both the operating All personnel must stand clear of the chutes during
and disabled mixer, be sure the drum has been raising and lowering and when chutes are loaded
allowed to turn freely so that it is balanced with no with concrete. Position chutes while they are not
forces transmitted to the hydraulic motor loaded. A loaded chute falling on a person may
cause serious injury. All chutes must be handled
with great care to avoid injury. Do not stand on
! WARNING chutes.
Daily inspection should be performed on the mixer.
This includes proper operation of the controls,
hydraulics lock out systems, electrical systems, ! WARNING
lighting system including turn signals, back up Main, foldover, and extension chutes must be
alarm, brake lights, clearance lights, head lamps, tail inspected on a daily basis for damage, excessive
lamps, safety equipment, and work lights. The wear, proper hardware fit, twist, and overall
truck’s air system must operate properly and have condition to determine that they are safe to use. Do
no leaks. Water and moisture should be drained not attempt to repair chutes. Unsafe chutes must be
from the truck’s air system daily. Call McNeilus replaced with new chutes.
Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 for
assistance.
! WARNING
! WARNING Optional air chute lock is intended for use only on
the job site. The manual chute lock should always
Do not wear watches, rings, and jewelry while be engaged during transport. Excessive wear or
operating or working with this equipment or its injury may result due to improper usage.
electrical and mechanical systems. These items can
be hazardous and can cause serious and painful
injuries if they come into contact with electrical
wires, moving parts, or hydraulic equipment.

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Introduction and Safety Procedures 3
Important Safety Information
! WARNING ! DANGER
Do not let persons, other than the driver, handle the Never back up without taking every precaution to be
chutes, unfold the foldover, and/or remove sure the rear is clear. Check behind truck before
extension, or stow and secure the extensions for backing up. Watch the mirrors for activity. Never
transit. Keep hands away from chute hardware back up the mixer unless and until you are
where the chutes connect. Never stand in the path completely sure it is safe. Use a spotter/ observer
of the chute as it is being unfolded or while in use. and/or get out and check yourself to ensure it is safe
Failure to follow the warnings concerning chute to do so.
safety may result in serious injury.

! WARNING ! WARNING
Wear the proper protective clothing when operating
No passenger must be allowed in the cab unless a or maintaining the mixer. Hard hats, safety glasses,
manufacturer’s approved passenger seat and seat gloves, and safety shoes should be worn. Reflective
belt are provided. clothing is recommended for drivers and
employees.
! WARNING
The mixer and chassis should not be overloaded. ! WARNING
Gross Vehicle Weights must not exceed the The mixer should not be overloaded. Load
Manufacturer’s gross vehicle weight of this vehicle. pressures must match the load to be transported.
Gross Vehicle Weights must meet Federal, State,
and Local laws.
! WARNING
! DANGER Be sure to maintain correct accumulator charge
pressure for correct and safe operation. Do not
Never drive the truck with the water tank attempt to check or charge the accumulator until
pressurized. you have read and understand the instructions.
Contact McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing at (507)
374-6321 for assistance.

! DANGER ! WARNING
The water tank must be operated at no more than 55
psi. When working on the hydraulic or electrical system
of a Bridgemaster or Tuck-A-Weigh unit the trailer
should be in the down position or chained in the up
! WARNING position to prevent the trailer from lowering
unexpectedly. Never stand behind the Bridgemaster
Safety decals must be replaced anytime they are or Tuck-A-Weigh when in the up position. If the
damaged or missing or cannot be read clearly. If Bridgemaster or Tuck-A-Weigh cylinder will not
you require safety decals, please contact McNeilus lower or raise, call McNeilus for assistance at (507)
Truck and Manufacturing at (507) 374-6321 for no 374-6321 and ask for service.
charge replacement safety decals.

! WARNING ! WARNING
When working on the hydraulic system with the
Thoroughly understand the controls before trailer raised, always chain the assembly to the
operating the mixer. Be sure everyone is clear of upright or retracted position to prevent the
the area around the truck before operating the assembly from coming down.
mixer. Remain attentive at all times when operating
the controls.

4 Maintaining your Mixer Hydrostatic Pump and Motor System © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Important Safety Information
! WARNING ! DANGER
Recheck the Hydraulic Down Pressure against the
The trailer should be lowered when servicing the
load to be transported. If their is too much
accumulator. Do not stand behind the cylinder
pressure the truck driving tandem could be
when charging the accumulator.
affected by loss of traction. Always set pressure to
the lowest setting when mixer is unloaded. Do not
run with trailer down when the mixer is not loaded. ! WARNING
The trailer pressures must match the load chart
! WARNING supplied with the mixer. If the pressure is too
great for the load it is possible to raise the rear
When recharging or checking the charge on the
chassis wheels of the truck and the operator may
Bridgemaster or Tuck-A-Weigh accumulator, the
lose control of the unit.
following safety guidelines must be followed:

The cylinder rod must be extended (trailer


on the ground) before the accumulator is
! WARNING
charged. Check trailer king pins, toe-in, tie rods, and
components for proper adjustment. Replace any
Do not stand behind the cylinder when worn or loose components immediately. Contact
charging the accumulator. The hose on the McNeilus at (507) 374-6321 for any specifications
McNeilus accumulator charge kit is long or assistance you may require.
enough to allow the accumulator to be
charged from the side of the mixer.
! WARNING
Do not attempt to disassemble the cylinder. With the trailer raised on the return trip, slower
speeds are required when going around curves or
Use only McNeilus P/N 160.85455 corners as the unit could upset or roll over.
Accumulator Charge Kit.

Purge air from the Accumulator Charge Kit ! WARNING


Hose by allowing a slight flow of nitrogen Always be sure the area behind the mixer is clear
to escape while attaching the Accumulator of people or other obstacles when raising or lower
Charge Kit to the Accumulator Charge the trailer.
Stem.

The truck ignition key should be removed ! WARNING


while charging the accumulator. Always check indicator lights in the cab or at
control panel at the front of the mixer for trailer and
Read these instructions thoroughly before chute position. Replace lights or bulbs when
attempting to charge the accumulator. required. NOTE: all models may not have indicator
lights. Physically check position when indicator
Loosen only the top nut of the accumulator lights are absent.
charge stem. If the bottom nut is loosened,
damage to the o-ring seal could result. All
gas pressure must be released from the
accumulator before the accumulator charge
! WARNING
Check the tire condition and tire pressure of the
stem can be removed for service.
trailer wheels daily to be sure the tires are inflated
to proper pressure to withstand the applied loads.
If you have any questions or experience
Do not exceed the recommended tire pressure
difficulty with the cylinder or charging the
marked on the tire sidewalls.
accumulator, please call the McNeilus
Service Department at (507) 374-6321.
We’re glad to assist!

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Introduction and Safety Procedures 5
Important Safety Information

! WARNING
Chutes must be completely lowered and centered
before operating the Bridgemaster or Tuck-A-Weigh
trailer. If chutes are not completely lowered and
centered, the trailer may come in contact with the
chutes and severely damage the mixer.

! WARNING
If you are not familiar with the Bridgemaster or Tuck-
A-Weigh, do not push or pull switches until you
know what part of the system they will contact and
understand the system’s operation.

! DANGER
IF THE MIXER COMES INTO CONTACT OR CLOSE
PROXIMITY WITH A POWER LINE OR THERE IS ANY
ARCING, STAY IN THE TRUCK CAB AND KEEP
AWAY FROM THE METAL PARTS OF THE UNIT. DO
NOT LET ANYONE COME CLOSE TO THE TRUCK.
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO JUMP CLEAR OF THE TRUCK.
STAY IN THE CAB. THE POWER MUST BE
DISCONNECTED BY THE POWER COMPANY
BEFORE YOU CAN SAFELY LEAVE THE CAB.
Minimum clearances from power lines:

50,000 Volts or Less...........................................4 Feet


50,000+ Volts ......................................................10 Feet
345,000 - 750,000 Volts ......................................16 Feet

KNOW THE CLEARANCE OF OVERHEAD


OBSTRUCTIONS. NEVER DRIVE THE MIXER UNDER
ANY OVERHEAD OBSTRUCTION WITHOUT
KNOWING THE CLEARANCE HEIGHT. IF UNIT HAS
A FLIP-UP HOPPER, BE SURE HOPPER IS IN THE
LOWERED POSITION. FAILURE TO DO SO MAY
RESULT IN DAMAGE TO THE MIXER BODY OR
TRUCK, AND MAY RESULT IN SERIOUS PERSONAL
INJURY OR DEATH.

6 Maintaining your Mixer Hydrostatic Pump and Motor System © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Internal Flo-Fuse™
With a continuing emphasis on safety, McNeilus recommends its internal Flo-Fuse. The internal
Flo-Fuse is located on the inside of the McNeilus replacement chute lift cylinder. This protects the
Flo-Fuse from damage and concrete build up. If the Flo-Fuse sees a sudden, abnormal increase
in flow, it will close and stop the cylinder from retracting.
This will stop your chutes.
The internal Flo-Fuse is now standard on all McNeilus
replacement chute lift cylinders for McNeilus Mixers. All
owners of McNeilus Mixers should ensure they have a
McNeilus replacement chute lift cylinder with the internal
Flo-Fuse on each of their McNeilus Mixers.

INTERNAL FLO-FUSE

• Update your fleet • P/N 200.107625 McNeilus 2-1/2” x 16”


• Resets automatically Cylinder
• Will not change chute speed
• Premium quality Please call McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing
at (507) 374-6321 if you require assistance or
• Recommended for all McNeilus Mixers
have any questions.

WEATHER-PAK KIT
P/N 9800.620080

10 MICRON FILTER ASSEMBLY


P/N 140.00436

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Internal Flo-Fuse 7
8 © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Maintaining your Mixer Hydrostatic Pump and Motor System
MAINTAINING YOUR HYDROSTATIC PUMP AND V. Multiple Viscosity Hydraulic Fluid (MV)
MOTOR SYSTEM
A. Shear Factor

THE HYDRAULIC FLUID 1. Viscosity Index Improver (VIP)

I. ISO68 - Ambient Less than 80° F a. Synthetic Polymer Chain


A. Specifications b. Typically Not Shear Stable in High
Pressure Piston Pumps
1. SUS @ 210° F = 55-60
B. High Viscosity Index
2. Viscosity Index = 100 - 120
1. 130 - 150
3. Pour Point = -25° F Average

VI. Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF)


II. ISO100 - Ambient More than 80° F
A. Should Not Be Used in Hydrostatics on Mixers
A. Specifications
B. Not Shear Stable in High Pressure Piston Pump
1. SUS @ 210° F = 60 - 70
1. High Viscosity Index
2. Viscosity Index = 100 - 120
a. 170 - 200
3. Pour Point = -5° F to +10° F
2. Tends to Shear to Base Stock Viscosity
III. Recommended Additives 3. Looses Hydrodynamic Film
A. Anti-Rust 4. Not Always Compatible with Hydraulic Fluid
B. Anti-Foam 5. Normally Higher Priced than Hydraulic Fluid
C. Anti-Wear
VII. Water Base Oil
D. Anti-Corrosion
A. Do Not Use in Hydrostatic Systems
E. Anti-Oxidant
B. Shortens Lifetime of Hydrostatics
F. Emulsifier
G. Detergent HOW HOT IS HOT?
I. Normal Maximum Operating Temperatures
IV. Breakdown of Hydraulic Fluid
A. Outside Temperature (Ambient) + 100° F
A. Age
B. Running Warmer Than Normal
1. Changing Hydraulic Fluid
1. Drum Stall
a. After the first 100 hours in Service
2. Hydraulic Fluid Should Be Changed More
b. Every six months or 1,000 Hours,
Often
thereafter whichever comes first
a. Additive Package Breaks Down
B. Heat
b. Hydraulic Fluid’s Ability to Tolerate Heat
1. Breakdown Temperature Varies with Brands
Lowers
C. The Effects of Breakdown of Hydraulic Fluid
C. Operating Cooler than Normal
1. Oxidizes
1. Moisture Accumulation
2. Additives Breakdown
a. Maximum Moisture = .001%
3. Varnish Forms
2. Hydraulic Fluid Should Be Changed More
4. Contamination Often
5. Hydrodynamic Film Cannot be Maintained
a. The film of oil between moving parts

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D. Filter Buggy (Three Filters Required) 4. Reservoir Breather Cap Installed by
Customer
1. Coarse Filter (Approximately 40 Microns)
a. 10 Micron Required if Sealed Cap is
2. Fine Filter (Approximately 5 Microns)
Replaced
3. Water Filter with Drain.
THE HYDRAULIC HOSE

E. Analyzing Oil
I. General Hose Information and Knowledge
1. Use an Analysis Designed for Hydrostatics
A. Ratings
a. Cleanliness Levels
1. Operating Pressure
b. SUS @ 210°F
a. The pressure the hose is designed to \
c. Moisture Content operate at on a continuous basis
d. Viscosity Index 2. Proof
a. The Operating Pressure X 2 for Test
F. Filtering Oil From Storage Containers Purposes

1. Use a 10 Micron Filter 3. Burst

a. Low Pressure Applications a. The pressure at which the hose bursts

1. Mixer Hydro Filter Assembly b. Operating Pressure X 4

b. High Pressure Applications 4. SAE = Society of Automotive Engineers

1. Bridgemaster High Pressure Filter 5. DIN = Duetsch International Nominal


Assembly 6. Mil Spec = Military (Lowest Rating)
B. Hose Outer Covering Considerations
THE RESERVOIR 1. Acid Wash Resistance
2. Synthetic Rubber Covering
I. Unvented Reservoir on Standard Mixer
C. Twist Factor
A. Hydro has an even exchange of oil
1. 7° of Twist per Foot Shortens Hose Life by
B. Chute Lift Cylinder Volume Minimal 95%
1. Cylinder Capacity = .34 Gal D. Hose Shrinkage
C. A sealed reservoir is cleaner 1. Anticipate a 4% Shrinkage Factor
D. Thermal Expansion Aids Charge Pump a. 2” on a 50” Hose
E. A Vent is Required if the System Has Large E. Never Pressure Wash Hoses
Cylinders
F. Inspect Hoses on a Daily Basis
1. Bridgemaster Requires Vented Reservoir
1. Cuts
II. Moisture Accumulation 2. Leaks
A. Source of Moisture 3. Abrasions
1. Condensation 4. Damage
a. Cool Down of Hydraulic Fluid 5. Improper Clearance
2. Induced Moisture 6. Aging
a. Bad Fitting Reservoir Cap 7. Check Along Frames for Damage, Grommets
b. Washing Hot Reservoir With Cold
Water
3. Hydraulic Fluid Not Reaching Operating
Temperature

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G. Hose Size = I.D. F. Replacement Tubing Must Meet SAE J1065
Rating
1. Dash Sizes in 16th of an Inch
1. Coordinates Sidewall Thickness with
a. -4 = 4/16 or 1/4”
Diameter
b. -6 = 6/16 or 3/8”
2. 4130 Cold Drawn Seamless Allow
c. -8 = 8/16 or 1/2”
3. .120 Sidewall Thickness

II. Suction Hose Applications 4. 92 Rockwell Hardness

A. SAE100R4 or Equivalent G. Tubing Size = O.D.

1. 28” Vacuum
THE SUCTION FILTER
2. 200 PSI Maximum
3. Aeroquip FC310, 2661 or Equivalent I. 10 Micron (µ ) Rating is Required
A. 1 µ = 0.00003937 Inch
III. Chute Hose Applications
B. Human Hair = 70 Microns
A. SAE100R2 or DIN 20 022
C. Lower Limits of Human Visibility = 40 Microns
1. Minimum Operating Pressure of 3,000 PSI
D. White Blood Cell = 25 Microns
Required
2. Aeroquip GH781 or Equivalent II. Beta Ratings Required by Eaton
A. B10=2 Minimum
IV. Closed Loop System (Hydrostatic Pump & Motor)
B. B10=4 Better Rating
A. SAE100R12
1. Minimum Operating Pressure of 4,000 PSI III. ISO Cleanliness Standard
2. GH493 or Equivalent A. 18/13 Required
1. Particles per ML (1 cc)
THE HYDRAULIC TUBING
a. 5 = 2,500 Particles
I. General Tubing Information b. 15 = 80 Particles
A. Ratings
IV. 10 Inches of Mercury (Hg) Maximum Warm
1. Operating Pressure
A. Red Line on Vacuum Gauge
2. Design Factor 4:1
V. Bypass Opens at 20 Inches of Mercury
3. SAE = Society of Automotive Engineers
A. Hydraulic Fluid is Unfiltered in Bypass
B. Should be zinc dichromate plated or primed
B. Filter Must Withstand 20 Inches of Mercury
1. Helps Prevent Rust and Deterioration
C. High Pressure Tubing is -16 (1”) VI. Many Filters Do Not Qualify
D. Return Tubing is -12 (3/4”) A. Incorrect Beta Ratings
E. Inspect Tubing on a Daily Basis 1. B10=2 Minimum
1. Cuts
2. Leaks THE HYDRAULIC FLUID COOLERS
3. Abrasions
I. Flow Capacity is Determined by Charge Pump Flow
4. Damage
A. 1.28 Charge Pump @ 2,000 RPM = 10.5 GPM
5. Improper Clearance @ 95% Efficiency
6. Aging B. Bypass Valve to Limit Case Pressures
7. Check Along Frames for Damage
1. Two 35 PSI Bypass per Cooler

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C. Front Mount Cooler IV. Pump Configurations Available (CW or CCW)
1. 15,670 BTU w/Ram Air (Unobstructed) A. Standard Charge Pump
2. 2,000 - 4,000 BTU in Stationary Mode B. Dual Element Charge Pump
D. 12 Volt Fan Cooler 1. Used with Optional Open Center Chute Lift
Block
1. 19,000 BTU w/Ram Air
C. SAE “A” Pad
2. 15,000 BTU w/Fan Air
1. Bridgemaster
3. Two 12 Volt Sensors for Redundancy
D. 1-3/8” or 1-1/2” Tapered Shaft
a. Lower Temp Sensor - 140° F
b. Higher Temp Sensor - 180° F V. Displacements
4. ZF Mount is Standard A. 54 Series - Production Pump (5.4 cid)
B. 46 Series and 64 Series (4.6 and 6.4 cid)
II. Reverse Flushing the Cooler
1. Available for Resale from McNeilus
A. Cooler Must Be Flushed or System Will Be
Immediately Contaminated on Start Up
VI. Model and Serial Numbers
THE HYDROSTATIC PUMP A. The First Two Numbers of the Model Number
Indicate Displacement
I. Rotation 1. Example: “54” = 5.4 cid
A. Front Mount Pumps = LH (CCW) B. Next Two Numbers of the Model Number
B. Rear Mount REPTO Pumps = RH (CW) Indicated Ball Guide or Fixed Clearance Model

1. Rear Engine Power Take Off 1. “2” = Pump


2. “0” = Ball Guide
II. Input Shaft Sizes
3. “1” = Fixed Clearance
A. Production - Approximately January 1997
4. Example:
1. 1-1/2” Tapered Shaft
a. 5421 = 54 Series Fixed Clearance
2. 1350 Series Spicer Drive Line Components Model
3. Yoke Torque = 320 lb. ft. Minimum b. 5420 = 54 Series Ball Guide Model
Lubricated
C. The First Four Digits of the S/N Indicate the
Build Date
4. P/N 5421-5XX (5” Designates 1-1/2” Shaft) 1. Example: 1097XXXX = October 1997.
B. Production - Through 1997
VII. Wet Spline “A” Pad
1. 1-3/8” Tapered Shaft
A. S/N 0688 and Higher are Wet Spline
2. 1310 Series Spicer Drive Line Components
1. No Spline Lubrication is Required
3. Yoke Torque = 175 lb. Ft. Minimum
Lubricated B. Lower S/N Must Be Lubricated Every Six
Months or Converted to a Wet Spline
4. P/N 5421-4XX (“4” or Lower Designates 1-
3/8” Shaft 1. Conversion Kit P/N 180.02521

III. Relief Valves (Called “Clipping Reliefs”) in Pump VIII.Control Valves

A. 6,000 PSI Clipping Relief Valves A. S/N 0986 and Newer Have a New Style
Control Valve Shaft and O-Ring Seal
B. Poppet Style
1. Tend to be Self-Cleaning
2. Cooler Operation

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B. Older Control Valves Can Be Updated With A IV. Changing Motor Sizes
New Shaft
A. Installing a Larger Displacement Motor will
1. Shaft P/N 340.12945 Decrease Drum RPM and Increase Torque
2. Seal Kit P/N 100.02468 B. Installing a Smaller Displacement Motor will
Increase Drum RPM and Decrease Torque
C. Dust Cover Over Control Valve Shaft On All
Current Control Valves
V. Motor Spline Lubrication
1. Keeps Cement Dust from O-Ring
A. The ZF 21 Tooth Receptacle Seal is Nicked To
D. All Eaton Remanufactured Control Valves Allow Gear Lube to Fill Cavity Between the ZF
Have All Updates and Motor
1. This allows the motor spline to be
IX. Charge Pumps
continuously lubricated
A. Standard Charge Pump = 1.28 cid
2. When changing a ZF drive, the seal must be
B. Gerotor Style nicked at the 9:00 position
1. Gerotor Style Tolerates Vacuum Well
VI. Model and Serial Numbers
C. Models Available
A. The First Two Numbers of the Model Number
1. Standard Indicate Displacement
2. Dual Element 1. Example: “54” = 5.4 cid
a. Open Center Chute Lift Block B. Next Two Numbers of the Model Number
3. “A” Pad Indicate Motor and Ball Guide or Fixed
Clearance Model
D. Rotation Easy To Reverse
1. “3” = Motor
E. S/N 0385 and Newer Have Larger Charge
Pump Shaft 2. “0” = Ball Guide
3. “1” = Fixed Clearance
THE HYDROSTATIC MOTOR
4. Example:

I. Spline a. 5431 = 54 Series Fixed Clearance Model

A. All McNeilus Mixers have a 21 Spline Motor b. 5430 = 54 Series Ball Guide Model
Shaft C. The First Four Digits of the S/N Indicate the Build
B. Rexworks = 20 and 23 Spline Date

C. Smith, Jaeger, CMC = 14 Spline 1. Example: 1097XXXX = October 1997.

II. High Pressure Relief Valves


A. The McNeilus has no High Pressure Relief on
the Motor (Clipping Relief Valves on the Pump)
B. 5,000 and 5,500 PSI Relief Valves were
Common

III. Displacement Sizes


A. 54 Series Eaton (5.4 cid)
B. 46 Series Eaton (4.6 cid)
C. 39 Series Eaton (3.9 cid)

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DRUM STALL AND INTERNAL LEAKAGE 1. Flush Reservoir and Wipe Clean
2. Reverse Flush the Cooler
I. Normal Internal Leakage of Hydraulic Fluid
3. Install New and Correct Filters
A. Leakage Cleans, Cools, and Lubricates
a. B10=2 Beta Rating Minimum
B. Normal Leakage at Operating Temperature
4. Flush Hoses and Tubing and Blow Out with
1. Pump = 1 GPM Air
2. Motor = 1 GPM D. Torque the Pump Yoke as per Specifications
C. Charge Pump Capacity @ 600 RPM = 3 GPM E. Change Both the Pump and Motor
1. Charge Pump Replaces Leakage (Make UP F. Install the Correct Hydraulic Fluid
Fluid)
G. Fill the Pump and Motor Case with Hydraulic
2. Fluid Not Used for Make Up (Leakage) Aids Fluid
Cooling by Dumping Into Pump Case
H. Follow Clean and Flush Procedures
II. Excessive Internal Leakage
A. Wear
B. Wrong Hydraulic Fluid (too thin)
C. Overheated
1. Possible Cooler Problems
a. Obstructed Air Flow
D. When Leakage Exceeds the Charge Pump’s
Capacity for Make Up Fluid the Drum Will Stall

III. Solutions
A. Increase Charge Pump Capacity with Increased
Engine RPM’s Whenever Possible
1. Don’t Let Engine Idle with a Load of
Concrete While Sitting at Job Sight
a. Use 1,000 or 1,200 rpm if possible while
sitting
B. Hydraulic Fluid with Correct SUS @ 210° F
C. Correct Cooler Capacity
D. Front Mount Coolers w/Clutch Fans
1. Install Fan Kit to Turn Fan On Manually
E. Larger Hydrostatic Motor
1. Additional Torque
F. Update to 12 Volt Fan Cooler System
G. Truck Engine Idle at 600 - 700 RPM

CHANGING HYDROSTATIC PUMPS AND MOTORS

I. Important Items to Complete


A. Keep Everything Extremely Clean
B. Check the Hoses
C. Flush the System with Diesel or a Flushing Fluid

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Gauge Installation Location
2. Charge Pump Pressure Test
• Use 0-600 PSI gauge
3. Case Pressure Test • Normal reading in neutral is 220 PSI ∆
• Use 0-400 PSI gauge (approximately 250 PSIG)
• Normal reading is 40-60 PSI • Normal reading in charge or discharge is 60 PSI
• See step #3 - Checking Case less than neutral reading
Pressure • See step #2 - Charge Pressure

1. Vacuum Test
• Use 0-30” vacuum gauge
• Test at operating temperature
• Normal reading should not exceed
10” of vacuum
• See step #1 - The Vacuum Check

4. High Pressure Test


• Use 0-10,000 PSI gauge
• Gauge will read pressure to turn
the drum
• Noram reading for an empty drum
will be ±500 PSI.
• Normal reading for a loaded drum
will be 2,500 - 3,500 PSI
depending on the slump of the
concrete
• See step #4 - Checking
Hydrostatic High Pressure

Motor WITH high pressure relief valve Motor WITHOUT high pressure relief valve
manifold block. (used by McNeilus through manifold block. (used by McNeilus since
1987) Readings vary with load. 1988) Readings vary with load.

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16 © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Troubleshooting Your Mixer Hydrostatic System

Today’s new generation mixer pumps and motors are Most hydrostatic oil filters have a vacuum gauge which
the result of extensive field testing, customer input, and indicates the amount of vacuum required to draw the oil
the latest technology. They offer greater durability, through the filter. As the filter becomes contaminated
increased power density, and greater efficiency. They more vacuum will be required to draw the oil through the
also require proper lubrication, filtration, and good filter media. This filter vacuum gauge will not detect a
maintenance to deliver the years of service designed problem between the filter and the charge pump. For
into them. Should a problem develop good this reason a reading is always taken at the charge
troubleshooting procedures can help you identify and pump inlet. A continuous high vacuum reading at the
correct a problem before the problem becomes critical. charge pump inlet will result in pump failure and will
require immediate attention.
We’ll divide the hydrostatic troubleshooting into four
steps which will cover the test procedures. The area
discussed in this update will be analyzing the vacuum
readings. Upcoming updates will discuss and analyze
the remaining troubleshooting steps.

Gauges, fittings, adapters, and hoses are required to


troubleshoot the hydrostatics. McNeilus markets a hydro
test kit (P/N 260.00483) which includes all of the
required components organized in a portable carrying
case. Contact your local McNeilus branch for details on
the test kit.

STEP #1—THE VACUUM CHECK

The charge pump develops the amount of vacuum


required to move the oil from the reservoir to the charge
pump. The normal oil route is from the reservoir, through
the filter, and into the charge pump. Anything that
restricts this oil route will increase the amount of vacuum McNeilus Hydro Test Kit 260.00483
required to move the oil to the charge pump. The
amount of vacuum required to move the oil can be
measured with a vacuum-pressure gauge.

The vacuum-pressure gauge is installed directly into the


charge pump inlet. Remove the inlet hose and install a
tee fitting into the charge pump inlet. Reattach the inlet
hose to the tee. Plumb the vacuum-pressure gauge into
the tee (see photo #1).

The vacuum reading should be taken when the oil is


warm. Cold oil will require more vacuum and result in a
higher than normal reading. Vacuum is measured in
inches of mercury (HG) rather than pounds per square
inch (PSI) like pressure. A hydro system with a new filter
and everything correct will normally read approximately
two inches or less of vacuum. The maximum allowable
vacuum on a continuous basis is 10 inches of mercury.

Photo 1

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Cause Remedy
Contaminated oil filter Install new filter
Suction hose not used Use SAE 100R4 Spec
suction hose
Obstruction in hose or
reservoir Remove obstruction
Sharp hose bends
restrict flow Reroute hose
Oil too heavy Install proper weight oil
Oil not warmed up Let system warm up and
recheck
Suction hose too small Install correct size hose
Fitting ID too small Install proper fittings
Filter element incorrect Use 10-micron suction filter

The following areas are common causes of high vacuum


readings:

STEP # 2 - CHARGE PRESSURE Photo 2


test kit is required to clear the cable. A 0 - 400 PSI
The charge pump is the heart of your hydrostatic gauge should be plumbed to the end of the hose.
system. If the charge pressure is low or nonexistent, the
hydrostatic pump will not provide the flow to turn the BE SURE EVERYONE IS CLEAR OF THE AREA.
drum. The duties of the charge pump include: Start the truck and warm up the system. The gauge
should read 220 ∆ PSI in neutral. The ∆ means 220 PSI
1. Develop the vacuum to move the oil from the (the setting of the relief valve on the charge pump) plus
reservoir through the filter to the charge pump. the pressure in the case of the pump. An example: If
the pump case pressure is a normal 40 PSI your gauge
2. Provide flow under pressure to the control valve to would read 260 PSI in neutral (220 PSI charge pump
allow the servo system to stroke the pump to charge pressure plus 40 PSI case pressure). Remember each
or discharge modes. system is unique and the gauge readings may vary
slightly from pump to pump.
3. Provide cool oil from the reservoir to the pump case
to assist in cooling the hydrostatic system. When the pump is put into charge or discharge the
charge pump pressure will decrease by approximately
4. Provide make up oil to replace oil lost through 60 PSI. As an example: A 260 PSI reading in neutral
normal leakage within the pump. should drop to 200 PSI when the pump is put into
charge or discharge. These gauge readings are normal
5. Provide flow under pressure to the rotating group and indicate good charge pump performance.
(piston and slipper assembly) to maintain pressure
and oil flow to the rotating group while the pump is in If your charge pump pressure is low check the following
neutral. areas:

The charge pump pressure check is easy to perform. 1. Be sure your vacuum readings are normal. If
With the truck engine off remove the o-ring plug from the vacuum readings are high, the pump may not be
top of the pump (see photo #2). Normally the control receiving the supply of oil required to achieve the
cable is routed across the area of the o-ring plug and a pressure to operate the system. (See Step #1 for
90-degree adapter and a short hose from the McNeilus vacuum information).

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2. Both the charge pump and motor bolted to the mixer
drive have low pressure relief valves. If your charge
pressure is OK in neutral but low in charge and
discharge positions you probably have a problem
with the motor’s low pressure relief valve. If your
charge pressure is low in neutral but OK in charge
or discharge your problem will most likely be the
charge pump’s low pressure relief valve. The
quickest way to verify this is to exchange the relief
valve cartridge with a known good cartridge from
another mixer.

3. If the pressure is low or non-existent in any control


valve position the charge pump should be removed
and inspected. It should rotate freely. Look for
contamination, excess wear, or broken parts. If the
charge pump is contaminated or has broken pieces
the hydro system will require flushing to remove the
contaminates from the system. If the pressure is low
from a worn charge pump you may be able to
change just the charge pump and continue.
Remember - if the charge pump has enough hours
to be worn out, the pump and motor may be in the
same condition!!

4. If a pump is operating with oil which is too thin or


operating at excessive temperatures, the charge
pump may not be able to maintain the required
pressures — especially at low RPM’s.

It is important that the flow of oil from the motor and


STEP #3 - CHECKING CASE PRESSURE pump cases have a free unobstructed flow to the
reservoir. If anything obstructs this flow of oil, the
pressure required to move the oil increases. Increased
The hydrostatic pump and motor are designed to have pressure can cause problems with external leakage for
internal oil leakage. This internal leakage occurs your motor and pump around the shaft seals and control
between the piston and piston sleeve which the piston valve seals - especially if the case pressure approaches
travels in, between the slipper and piston where the 100 PSI.
slipper is wedged on the piston, and between the slipper
and the swashplate. This normal internal oil leakage Checking the case pressures on the hydros is easy! A 0-
allows the oil to clean, lubricate, and cool as it passes 400 PSI gauge is plumbed into the return line hose
through these close tolerances. Internal leakage collects which is routed between the top of the hydrostatic pump
in the motor case and flows out of the motor housing and oil cooler. The return line which is plumbed into the
through a smaller low pressure hydraulic return line to top of the pump should be removed and a tee plumbed
the bottom of the hydrostatic pump case. The leakage into the line. The gauge is plumbed into the third port of
flows into the pump and joins the internal pump leakage the tee. (See photo above)
and other accumulated oil in the pump case. The total
volume of leakage from the motor and pump then pass When the hydrostatic system is operating at normal
out of the top of the pump, flows through the oil cooler temperatures, the gauge pressure should read 40 - 60 PSI.
and returns to the oil reservoir. If the pressures are higher than this, the system should be

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Troubleshooting Your Mixer Hydrostatic System 19
checked to determine why the pressures have increased. forced through the main relief valve generates heat at
Two common causes of high case pressure on mixer the rate of one degree per second for each one
applications are obstructed oil coolers and return lines thousand pounds of pressure!
which are pinched due to tight radius turns.
Approximately 25 PSI is required to force the oil flow More modern systems with the “power limiters” in the
through the oil cooler. If you case pressure is high, you pump (used by McNeilus since 1988) allow the pump to
simply remove the two return lines from the oil cooler destroke when pressures reach maximum. With the
and join the hose ends with a union. If the case pressure pump destroked, there is no oil flow to the motor and no
dropped from a high reading to a low reading (example: heat is generated in the closed loop circuit.
100 PSI with the cooler in the circuit dropping to 20 PSI
with the cooler out of the circuit), the system is telling Checking the high pressure circuit requires a 0-10,000
you that the cooler is obstructed internally. Most coolers PSI gauge be installed in the charge circuit port in the
can be reverse flushed with flushing fluid or diesel fuel to manifold of the motor (see the inset). When the
remove the contaminants. If the cooler can’t be properly hydrostatic system is turning the drum, the gauge will
flushed it should be replaced with a new cooler read the amount of hydrostatic pressures required to
assembly (normally around $100.00). If a return line perform that function. A typical mixer system will require
hose is pinched, it must be replaced and rerouted if around 500 PSI to turn an empty drum and from 2,500 -
necessary to eliminate tight bends and turns. A 3/4” ID 3,500 PSI to turn a drum with a load of mixed concrete.
return line may have only a 1/4” ID if pinched or in a The lower the slump of the concrete, the harder the
bend which is too tight. drum turns and the higher the pressures will be. (If you
have a slump meter installed, you already have a high
pressure gauge in the circuit).
STEP #4 - CHECKING HYDROSTATIC HIGH
PRESSURE

Two high pressure relief valves on older style


hydrostatic systems are typically found in the manifold
on the rear of the hydrostatic motor. On later style
systems, the relief valves have been replaced by “power
limiter” valves which are located on the front of the pump
rather than on the motor manifold. The job of these
relief valves or “power limiter” valves is to protect the
closed loop circuit and components (including the pump
and motor) from excess hydrostatic pressures during the
charge, mix, and discharge modes or if a problem
develops which would cause the pressures to increase
above the normal limits.
New Style
In older systems with the relief valves located in the Motor Without Manifold
motor manifold, considerable heat can be generated if Normal Reading - Varies with Load
any significant amount of oil flows through the relief
valves. As an example: a mixer with a drum drive
locked up may prevent the motor from turning. If a
driver placed the controls in charge or discharge, the
pump will send a flow of oil to the motor in an attempt to
turn the drum. Because the drive can’t turn the drum,
the high pressure will immediately intensify to the relief
valve setting and force the oil through the relief valve
and back into the circuit. This situation causes
tremendous amounts of heat to be generated in the
hydrostatic system; enough to destroy the motor, hoses,
and the pump if it is allowed to continue. Oil which is

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If the drum won’t turn and the high pressure gauge
reads low or zero while the pump is delivering oil flow
to the motor, the high pressure relief valve or “power
limiter” valves may be stuck in the open position and
allowing oil flow with little or no resistance. Remove
the valves and examine them for contamination,
damaged o-rings, etc., and thoroughly clean the
valves with WD-40 or an equivalent product. Normally
the two valves can be interchanged to unload the
drum.

Pressure Gauge for


Checking System Pressure
10,000 psi

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22 © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
How to use the Fault Logic Charts

These fault-logic charts are designed to help you


troubleshoot problems with hydrostatic pumps and
motors at your location. Find the symptom and follow the
steps shown in the box. The steps are laid out in the
normal logical order, so start at the beginning and work
your way through the steps in the order they are shown.
Each step will have a number shown in the box. These
numbers refer to the action steps listed on the page
following the fault logic charts. As an example: If the
symptom is neutral is difficult to find, the first step is
“Inspect Control Linkage”. In the box is the number “1”.
Turning to the page following the fault logic chart and
looking at action stop number one gives you additional
ideas for items to check. Anytime you have questions or
require assistance, please feel free to call McNeilus
Companies at one of the numbers shown in action step
number 16.

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Troubleshooting Hydraulic Pumps and Motors

NEUTRAL, DIFFICULT OR IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND

Inspect Inspect Call McNeilus for


OK Assistance
Control Linkage Control Valve
1 2 16

Defective Defective

Repair or Replace Repair or Replace

MIXER DRUM TURNS IN ONE DIRECTION ONLY

Inspect Inspect Inspect


OK OK Relief Valves
Control Linkage Control Valve
1 2 3

Defective Defective Defective

Repair or Replace Repair or Replace Repair or Replace


OK

Call McNeilus for Inspect Charge Inspect Shuttle


Assistance
OK Check Valves OK Valve
16 5 4

Defective Defective

Repair or Replace Repair or Replace

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Troubleshooting Hydraulic Pumps and Motors

SYSTEM RESPONSE SLUGGISH

Call
Inspect
Check Charge McNeilus
OK Control OK for
Pressure
Valve Assistance
12 2 16

Defective

Repair or Replace OK

Low in Neutral,
Low in Neutral Low in Charge
Charge or
or Discharge
Discharge

Inspect Charge Inspect Charge Inspect


Relief Valve Relief Valve at Charge Relief Inspect Inlet Inspect
OK OK
at Pump Motor Valve at Pump Filter Charge Pump
13 14 13 9, 10 15

Defective Defective Defective Clogged Defective

Repair or Replace Repair or Replace Repair or Replace Replace Repair or Replace

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Troubleshooting Hydraulic Pumps and Motors

SYSTEM OPERATING HOT

Inspect
Check
Check Oil Level Inspect Oil External Oil
OK OK Cooler Bypass OK Charge
in Reservoir Cooler
(If used) Pressure
6 7 8 12
OK
Low Defective Defective

Low in Neutral, High in Charge or


Fill to Correct Level Replace Repair or Replace Charge or Discharge
Discharge

Inspect Inspect Charge


Inspect Inspect Inlet Charge Relief Relief Valve
OK OK
Charge Pump Filter Valve at Pump at Motor
15 9, 10 13 14

Defective Clogged Defective Defective

Repair or Replace Replace Repair or Replace Repair or Replace

OK

Call Check
McNeilus System High
for OK
Pressure
Assistance
16 11

Low

Inspect Relief
Valves
3

Defective

Replace

NOTE: Normal reservoir oil temperature will be outside


(ambient) temperature plus 100°F.

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Troubleshooting Hydraulic Pumps and Motors

SYSTEM WILL NOT OPERATE IN EITHER DIRECTION

Inspect Inspect
Inspect Check
Check Oil Level Control External Oil
OK OK Control OK Cooler Bypass OK Charge
in Reservoir Linkage Valve (if used) Pressure
6 1 2 8
OK
Low Defective Defective Defective

Low in High in
Neutral,
Fill to Correct Level Repair or Replace Repair or Replace Repair or Replace Charge Charge
or or
Discharge Discharge

Inspect Inspect Charge


Inspect Inspect Inlet Charge Relief Relief Valve
OK OK
Charge Pump Filter Valve at Pump at Motor
15 9, 10 13 14

Defective Clogged Defective Defective

OK Repair or Replace Replace Repair or Replace Repair or Replace

Call Check
McNeilus System High
for OK
Pressure
Assistance
16 11

Low

Inspect Relief
Valves
3

Defective

Replace

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved System will not operate in either direction 27
Diagram Action Steps

1. Inspect control linkage for: 6. Check Oil Level In Reservoir:


a. Cables out of adjustment, binding, broken, etc. a. Follow the manufacturer’s recommendations
b. Cables not coordinated with control valve b. Normally oil should be to the sight glass with all
neutral cylinders retracted
c. Arm on control valve slipping on control valve c. Do not overfill reservoir
shaft spline
d. Cable bracket loose or installed incorrectly 7. Inspect Oil Cooler for:
a. Obstructed air flow from dirt, grease, etc. on the
2. Inspect control valve for: outside of the cooler
a. Plugged control orifice b. Improper plumbing
b. Damaged mounting gasket c. Obstructed oil flow through the cooler; may
c. Misadjusted, damaged or broken neutral return require flushing the cooler or a new cooler
spring
d. Broken control connector pin 8. Inspect External Oil Cooler Bypass (if used):
e. Broken or missing control linkage pins a. Broken, clogged, or defective bypass valve
f. Galled, stuck, or contaminated control spool b. The McNeilus cooler has an internal bypass
g. Exchange control valves with a units which rather than an external bypass
works properly to verify the control valve is at
fault 9. Vacuum Hose Should Be Inspected for:
a. SAE 100R4 rating - This hose must be correct
3.* Inspect relief valves for: or the internal liner may collapse under vacuum
a. Improper pressure relief setting applications. Pressure hose will not work.
b. Damaged or missing o-ring and backing ring
c. Plugged orifices 10. Inspect Inlet Filter for:
d. Center spool galled, stuck, or contaminated a. Plugged or clogged filter element
e. Poppet style relief valve may be stuck open or b. Obstructed inlet or outlet
contaminated c. Incorrect rating filter (should be 10 micron filter
f. Older style motors have the high pressure relief designed for vacuum applications)
valves installed in a manifold on the rear of the d. High vacuum (10” maximum vacuum when oil is
motor. These relief valves can normally be warm)
exchanged from port to port for test purposes
(1987 and earlier on McNeilus mixers). 11. Check System High Pressure:
g. Newer Eaton systems have poppet style high a. See the test pages showing gauge installation
pressure relief valves (called power limiters) and test procedures.
installed in the pump. These power limiters can b. An empty drum will normally register
be exchanged from port to port for test purposes approximately 500 PSI on the test gauge
(1988 and newer on McNeilus mixers). c. A loaded drum will normally register from 2,500 -
3,500 PSI on the gauge depending on the load
4. Inspect shuttle valve (located on the end of the and slump of the concrete in the drum
motor) for: d. WARNING: Do not attempt to “lock up” the
a. Bent or broken return centering spring system or prevent the drum from turning to test
b. Galled, stuck, or contaminated spool high pressure. The result may be serious
c. Bent or broken shuttle spool damage to the system and serious personal
d. Excess wear injury.

5. Inspect Charge Check Valves (located behind


charge pump) for:
a. Damaged or missing o-ring
b. Damaged check ball seat
c. Stuck check ball

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12.*Check charge pressure: 16. Call McNeilus for Assistance:
a. Charge pressure is checked by installing a 0- a. Call your local McNeilus Branch:
600 PSI gauge in the o-ring port on the top of
the pump. See the test pages showing gauge 1. Colton, CA (909)370-2100
installation and test procedures. 2. Commerce City, CO (303)287-7486
b. Charge pressure on the Eaton hydrostatic 3. Villa Rica, GA (770)459-5151
systems normally reads 240 - 260 PSI on the 4. Gahanna, OH (614)868-0760
gauge when the pump is in neutral. The reading 5. Morgantown, PA (610)286-0400
should drop 60 PSI when the pump is put in 6. Hutchins, TX (972)225-2313
charge or discharge. 7. Tacoma, WA (253)536-0260
c. A minimum reading of approximately 150 PSI on 8. Dodge Center, MN (507)374-6321
the gauge is required to turn the drum
*Charge Relief Valve and High Pressure Relief Valve
13.*Inspect Charge Relief Valve at Pump for: Identification:
a. Improper charge relief pressure setting
b. Plugged orifice The relief valves are factory preset. The pressure code
c. Spool galled, contaminated, or stuck open or is stamped on the hex plug located on the end of the
closed valve cartridge. To determine the pressure setting on the
d. Damaged or missing o-ring motor manifold high pressure relief valves, add a zero to
e. Poppet valve held off seat the right of the stamped number (Eaton up to 1987).
f. Exchange a known good charge relief valve 1988 and newer high pressure relief valves (power
from another pump to verify the relief is the limiter) located in the Eaton pump are marked internally.
problem They must be removed to see the number.

14.*Inspect Charge Relief Valve at Motor for: Charge Pressure High Pressure
a. Improper charge relief pressure setting Relief Valves Relief Valves
b. Plugged orifice
c. Spool galled, contaminated, or stuck open or 016 = 160 PSI 500 = 5,000 PSI
closed 022 = 220 PSI 550 = 5,500 PSI
d. Damaged or missing o-ring
e. Poppet valve held off seat
f. Exchange a known good charge relief valve
from another pump to verify the relief is the
problem

15. Inspect Charge Pump for:


a. Broken tang
b. Damaged or missing o-ring
c. Broken drive key
d. Excessive gerotor clearance
e. Galled or broken gerotor set

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Diagram Action Steps 29
Eaton Hydraulic Division, Eaton Hydrostatic Pump - Ball Guide

30 Eaton Hydrostatic Pump - Ball Guide © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved.
Eaton Hydraulic Division, Eaton Hydrostatic Pump - F.C.

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Eaton Hydrostatic Pump - F.C. 31
Control Valve - Old Style

32 Control Valve - Old Style © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Control Valve - New Style S/N 0986 and higher

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Control Valve - New Style S/N 0986 and higher 33
Charge Pump Rotation Identification

Ridges are not aligned on body and pump section.

Counterclockwise (LH)
Charge Pump Rotation Identification
(Looking from “back” of Unit)
(CCW)

Ridges are aligned on body and pump section.

Clockwise (RH)
Charge Pump Rotation Identification
(Looking from “back” of Unit)
(CW)

34 Charge Pump Rotation Identification © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Valve Plate Rotation

PUMP VALVE PLATE FOR


CCW INPUT SHAFT
ROTATION (Lefthand)

Fixed Clearance

54 PV LH Plate
1. Eaton P/N 105103
2. McNeilus P/N 080.025

Ball Guide Units

54 PV LH Plate
1. Eaton P/N 102795
2. McNeilus P/N
080.02447

46 PV LH Plate
1. Eaton P/N 102627
2. McNeilus P/N
080.02442

PUMP VALVE PLATE FOR


CW INPUT SHAFT ROTATION
(Righthand)

Fixed Clearance

54 PV RH Plate
1. Eaton P/N 105102
2. McNeilus P/N
080.02525

Ball Guide Units

54 PV RH Plate
1. Eaton P/N 102744
2. McNeilus P/N
080.02446

46 PV RH Plate
1. Eaton P/N 02626
2. McNeilus P/N
080.02441

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Valve Plate Rotation 35
Broken Pump Shaft

The broken shaft coupling end noted on this shaft


indicates a possible improper torquing of the mating
coupling retaining nut. This condition usually is the
result of the torque to turn the shaft being transmitted
through the key and shaft keyway rather than proper
shaft to coupling taper fit.

36 Broken Pump Shaft © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Hydrostatic Installation and Clean and Flush Procedures

Contamination (dirt, metal particles, etc.) in fluid of a change. If the new filter doesn’t solve the problem,
hydrostatic transmission is the primary cause of failure. check for restrictions and proper SAE 100R4 suction
Before reinstalling a set of hydrostatic transmission line diameter. Many mixers had a primary filter
units, the system must be completely free of internally in the reservoir and a filter assembly
contamination.Changing the filter element and fluid is externally mounted in the system. It is our
not enough to thoroughly clean the system. For this experience that the internal filter in the tank may be
reason, we have derived the following list of procedures removed if a 10 micron filter assembly.with correct
that, when followed step by-step, will help assure by-pass system and capacity is used externally in
system cleanliness; resulting in longer life for your the suction line which goes from the reservoir to the
hydrostatic transmission components. Remember, it is charge pump.
desirable that both the hydrostatic pump and motor be 13. Keep all loose hose ends capped after flushing to
replaced at the same time. prevent contamination from entering the system.
14. Reinstall pump and motor units (on replacement
After Determining that the Hydrostatic Units Need to
motors. apply a thin coat of MOLYBDENUM
be Replaced:
DISULPHITE grease to the spline to prevent the
1. Drain all fluid from the system at the lowest point. motor shaft from seizing to the gear box receptacle).
2. Remove the old hydrostatic pump and motor and 15. Fill reservoir, hydrostatic pump and motor cases.
return it to McNeilus. hose, lines, etc. with new, clean pre-filtered fluid.
3. Remove the filter element and reservoir clean-out Make certain fluids meet specifications of the
door. equipment manufacturer or see a fluid
4. Check the suction hose for kinks, collapsed or recommendation chart.
flaking liner, or any other obstructions. Check the 16. Be sure to fill the hydrostatic pump and motor cases
function of the shut-off if installed. Inspect all other before start-up. Proceed with the start-up procedure.
hose and fittings and replace as required. 17. Slotted pump yoke nut must be torqued to specs.
5. Check the inside of the reservoir for contamination CAUTION: Failure to properly torque the slotted
(particles of steel or brass, sludge, dirt, etc.) and be pump yoke nut may result in a broken pump shaft.
sure the pipe couplings from the reservoir to the
suction hose are not obstructed. REMEMBER, KEEP IT CLEAN!
6. Flush all hoses, pipes, tubing, filter housings, and This includes any oil drums, buckets, transfer pumps,
reservoir with clean kerosene or solvent several etc., used to clean and flush the system!
times.
Although these steps will take considerable time to
7. Fill all lines, hoses, pipes, etc. with clean kerosene
complete, we at McNeilus feel that they are extremely
or solvent and blow out with air pressure.
important to prevent unnecessary replacements which
8. Reverse flush the oil cooler several times with clean result in expense and down time. Remember, we want
kerosene or solvent and blow out with air pressure. you to get the most from your equipment and our
9. Hand wipe the inside of the reservoir and filler hydrostatic transmission program.
housing with clean, lint free towels.
OPERATION RECOMMENDATION
10. Clean all hydrostatic pump and motor hose fittings
The engine must have at least 600 RPM at idle with a
and replace “O” rings as required.
load in the mixer drum control to rotate the drum at 1-1/2
11. Replace filter elements, filter gaskets and reservoir to 2 revolutions. In cold weather, allow for warm up of
clean-out door gasket. hydraulic oil before charging the mixer.
12. Check the filter vacuum gauge. The vacuum gauge
is normally located on the filter assembly.
Remember the importance of a good vacuum gauge
in the system. If this vacuum reading exceeds 10
inches, the result may be cavitation in the system.
Normally, this indicates a need for an oil filter

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Hydrostatic Installation and Clean and Flush Procedures 37
Recommendations for Hydraulic Fluid Specifications

HYDROSTATIC OIL
The following oils are approved for the ISO 100 specification for Eaton Hydrostatics
operating in ambient temperatures in excess of 80 degrees F.:

SUS @ POUR
BRAND NAME 210 VI POINT (F)
Citgo AW Hyd Oil 63 96 +5
Conoco Super Hyd Oil 100 64 98 -25
Drydene 4044 65 102 +5
Fina AW Hyd Oil 64 95 0
Kendall Four Seasons (7384) 63 95 +10
Mobil DTE10-18M 71 120 -29
Texaco Rando HD150 72.7 90 - 5
Unocal UNAX AW 65 100 +10

The following oils are approved for the ISO 68 specification for Eaton Hydrostatics
operating in ambient temperatures less than 80 degrees F.:

Chevron Hyd Oil AW 54 99 -22


Citgo AW Hyd Oil 55 94 -20
Conoco Super Hyd Oil 68 56 100 -30
Drydene 4034 54 105 -15
Fina AW Hyd Oil 55 96 -15
Kendall Four Seasons (7382) 56.0 100 -5
Mobil DTE10-16M 62 120 -11
Texaco Rando HD68 53.5 98 -25
Unocal UNAX AW 55.4 102 -11

38 Recommendations for Hydraulic Fluid Specifications © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
MIXER OIL SPECS
ISO 100 OIL (Over 80 degrees ambient)

SUS at 100 Degrees F. 544


SUS at 210 Degrees F. 71
Pour Point -20 F.
Viscosity Index <120

ISO 68 OIL (Less than 80 degrees ambient)

SUS at 100 Degrees F. 359


SUS at 210 Degrees F. 62
Pour Point -30 F.
Viscosity Index <120

ADDITIVES RECOMMENDED

Anti-Wear
Anti-Foam
Anti-Rust
Anti-Corrosion
Anti-Oxidant
Emulsifier
Detergent (minimum amount)

The additives are a standard hydraulic oil package for any oil blender.

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Recommendations for Hydraulic Fluid Specifications 39
40 © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Water Tank Measurement

Contact ______________________________________ Date of Order _________________________________


Company Name _______________________________ Phone Number ________________________________
Mailing Address _______________________________ Shipping Address ______________________________
City _________________________________________ City _________________________________________
State ___________________ Zip__________________ State ___________________ Zip__________________
Special Notations ______________________________ Number of tanks wanted ______ Gallon capacity______
____________________________________________ Extra parts needed (example: site gauge kit)
____________________________________________ ____________________________________________
____________________________________________ ____________________________________________

■ Steel ■ Aluminum

(SAMPLE of completed measurements)

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Water Tank Measurement 41
Rear Pedestal Specification Sheet

42 Rear Pedestal Specification Sheet © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Fender Measurement

Contact_______________________________________ Date of Order _________________________________


Company Name ________________________________ Phone Number ________________________________
Mailing Address ________________________________ Shipping Address ______________________________
City __________________________________________ City _________________________________________
State ___________________ Zip __________________ State ___________________ Zip _________________
Special Notations_______________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________________________________

PUSHER

A. __________________________________________ G. __________________________________________
B. __________________________________________ H. __________________________________________
C. __________________________________________ I. ___________________________________________
D. __________________________________________ ■ Driver Side ■ Passenger Side
E. __________________________________________ ■ Pair
F. __________________________________________ ■ Steel ■ Aluminum

TAG
For Tandem Fenders, Use A, B, C, D, H & G

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Fender Measurement 43
Open Center Chute Block

NOTES:
1. TORQUE ALL CARTRIDGES TO 35 FT/LBS.
2. TORQUE COIL NUT TO 10 IN/LBS.
3. COILS ARE 12VDC 20 WATT

Item Part No. Description Qty


1 520.106591 Chute Block Body Only 1
2 260.106592 Check Valve Cartridge 5 P.S.I. 1
3 260.106593 Relief Valve 2200 P.S.I. 1
4&8 260.106594A Normally Open Solenoid Valve with Coil (Up) 1
4 260.106588A Normally Open Valve Poppet Only 1
5&8 260.106595A Normally Closed Solenoid Valve with Coil (Down) 1
5 260.106587A Normally Closed Valve Poppet Only (Screened) 1
6 260.106596 Flow Control Valve (Chute Down Speed) 1
7 260.106597 Check Valve 200 P.S.I. 1
8 060.85774A 12-Volt Coil Only 2
9 040.106634 Orifice Plate .062 (Chute Up Speed) 1
10 040.85743 Plug SAE 4 1

Items #4,5 and 8 refer to the new style coated rectangular solenoid valves. These will replace as an assembly only the old style
poppet and round coils, the coils and poppets from new style to old are not interchangeable. All other parts remain unchanged.

44 Open Center Chute Block © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Open Center Chute Valve Assembly Hold position

Chute Lift Cylinder Note: Use only McNeilus Chute Lift Cylinders
2 1/2” x 16” with Internal Flo-Fuse.
200.107620

N.C. Valve Assy. (CEC)


w/12V. Coil
)( Pressure Compensated
Flow Control
260.106596
260.106595A

N.C. Cartridge Only


(CEC)
260.106587A Normally Closed
Solenoid Valve
12 V. Coil Only (CEC) Energize to lower
060.85774A

200 P.S.I. Check


260.106597

5 P.S.I. Check
260.106592

)( .062 Orifice
040.106634
N.O. Valve Assy (CEC)
w/ 12 V. Coil
260.106594A Normally Open
N.O. Cartridge Only Solenoid Valve
(CEC) Energize to raise
260.106588

12 V. Coil Only (CEC)


060.85774A

Relief Valve
2200 P.S.I.
260.106593

T P

A Revisions made in 1991 with CEC weather resistant coils (rectangular,


rubber coated) and heavier valve assemblies. Previously used round metal Raise Pressure
sheated coils. The valve assemblies are interchangeable, the individual
pieces are not. Return Pressure

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Open Center Chute Valve Assembly 45
Open Center Chute Valve Assembly RAISE POSITION

Chute Lift Cylinder Note: Use only McNeilus Chute Lift Cylinders
2 1/2” x 16” with Internal Flo-Fuse.
200.107620

)( Pressure Compensated
Flow Control
260.106596
N.C. Valve Assy.
w/12V. Coil
260.106595A Normally Closed
N.C. Cartridge Only
Solenoid Valve
260.106587A Energize to lower

12 V. Coil Only
060.85774A

200 P.S.I. Check


260.106597

5 P.S.I. Check
260.106592

)( .062 Orifice
040.106634
N.O. Valve Assy
w/ 12 V. Coil
260.106594A Normally Open
N.O. Cartridge Only
Solenoid Valve
260.106588 Energize to raise

12 V. Coil Only
060.85774A

Relief Valve
2200 P.S.I.
260.106593

T P

Lowering Pressure

Return Pressure

46 Open Center Chute Valve Assembly © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Open Center Chute Valve Assembly LOWER POSITION

Chute Lift Cylinder Note: Use only McNeilus Chute Lift Cylinders
2 1/2” x 16” with Internal Flo-Fuse.
200.107620

)( Pressure Compensated
Flow Control
260.106596
N.C. Valve Assy.
w/12V. Coil
260.106595A Normally Closed
N.C. Cartridge Only
Solenoid Valve
260.106587A Energize to lower

12 V. Coil Only
060.85774A

200 P.S.I. Check


260.106597

5 P.S.I. Check
260.106592

)( .062 Orifice
040.106634
N.O. Valve Assy
w/ 12 V. Coil
260.106594A Normally Open
N.O. Cartridge Only Solenoid Valve
260.106588 Energize to raise

12 V. Coil Only
060.85774A

Relief Valve
2200 P.S.I.
260.106593

T P

Hold Pressure

Return Pressure

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Open Center Chute Valve Assembly 47
Open Center Chute Valve Troubleshooting

Symptom Cause Remedy

Chute drifts down 1. 200 PSI check leaks Install new valve

2. Normally closed solenoid valve 1. Install new valve


stuck open or leaks 2. Correct electrical

Chute drifts up during 5 PSI check leak Replace valve


transport

Chute will not raise 1. Normally open solenoid valve 1. Replace valve
stuck closed 2. Check electrical

2. Normally closed valve stuck open 1. Replace valve


2. Check electrical

Chute will not raise with Relief valve pressure set too low Adjust with gauge to 2200 PSI
full load

Chute will not lower Normally closed valve stuck 1. Replace valve
2. Check electrical

Chute lowers too fast Flow adjustment not correct Adjust down speed valve screw out to
or too slow slow down or screw in to speed up

48 Open Center Chute Valve Troubleshooting © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Maintenance Periodic Inspection

**

* Change oil after first 100 hours. Thereafter change every six months. Capacity: fill to check plug or
site glass. Change every 1000 hours or six months thereafter.

Service ZF twice annually with 85W-140 GL5 Spec. 85W-140 can be used year round.

* NOTE: Trans. hold down bolts previous S/N 14669 had 3/4” bolts that were torqued to 310 lbs. Now S/N 14669
has 7/8” bolts that are torqued to 420 lbs.

**Call McNeilus for additional oil or filter information at (507) 374-6321.

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Maintenance Periodic Inspection 49
Maintenance Periodic Inspection
DAILY INSPECTIONS 4. Check filler cap and neck on oil reservoir for leaks.
Check oil reservoir mounts. Make any necessary
1. Hydraulic hoses, fittings, and pipe must be repairs immediately.
inspected on a daily basis for leaks, cuts, abrasions,
damage, aging, improper clearance, and along the 5. Check and record drum RPM while loading mixer
frame for hidden damage. If you find hoses with any with concrete and truck engine running at top
such adverse conditions or damage, they must be governed RPM. If drum revolution is 2 RPM less
replaced before the mixer is returned to service! In than that recorded at previous check, see manual
any event, all hydraulic hoses must be replaced for component check out.
every two years. Failure to properly inspect and
maintain your mixer may result in serious personal 6. Check inside of drum for concrete build up and
injury. clean as required.

2. Visual roller track and roller alignment check. Check 7. Check mounting bolts for proper tightness.
for “snapping” or “popping” noises while drum is
turning. 8. Check ZF transmission drive plate bolts. Torque to
170 lb ft.
3. Check oil level in hydraulic reservoir. Add oil if
below sight gauge level with all cylinders retracted. 9. Check ZF transmission hold down bolts. Torque to
Use correct oil. 420 lb. ft.

4. Start engine and warm up hydraulic system with 10. Inspect debouncer for proper clearance.
truck engine at approximately 1,200 RPM and mixer
drum turning at approximately 2 RPM. Warm up 11. Inspect roller track for cracks, flat areas. Correct as
time minimum is 5 minutes. necessary.

5. Check vacuum gauge on oil filter. Replace element SIX MONTH INSPECTION
if the reading exceeds 10 inches of vacuum after oil
has reached operating temperature. 1. Change hydraulic oil and install new hydraulic oil
filter(s). Remove filters and check for metal
6. Check for and correct any external oil or air leaks. particles. Replace filter(s) with correct part number
filter. Use the correct hydraulic oil as per McNeilus
NOTE: Do not tighten or loosen any connections specs. Check with McNeilus before using any
while system is under pressure. alternate hydraulic oil or filters. Multiple Viscosity
oils and Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) cannot
7. Lubricate pump drive shaft universal joints. be used in the hydraulic system.

8. Lubricate roller bearings. 2. Lubricate control cables using the McNeilus Cable
Lube Kit.
9. Lubricate and inspect rear cable control box.
3. On Bridgemaster systems check the indicator gauge
10. Lubricate chute pivot system and inspect chutes and on the high pressure filter when the system is warm
chute hardware for wear or damage. and the Bridgemaster Trailer is actually moving
down (if the trailer is not moving, the indicator will
WEEKLY INSPECTIONS not read).

1. Check pump drive shaft cap screws for proper 4. Service the ZF transmission. The lubricant should
tightness. be drained while the ZF drive is hot. 85w-140 with a
GL5 spec is the proper lubricant. Do not overfill the
2. Lubricate complete mixer per lube chart supplied with drive. Proper oil level is to the bottom of the sight
mixer. glass.

3. Draw sample of oil from reservoir and check for 5. Inspect mixer main hold down bolts and springs.
presence of water. If water is present, the oil may Replace or adjust as required.
be milky in appearance. Milky oil should be drained
from the system and replaced and the source of the
water entry found and corrected.
50 Maintenance Periodic Inspection © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Roller Adjustments

Drum Roller: Roller Alignment:

Each drum roller is equipped with two tapered roller Drum rollers must run parallel (in line) with roller track.
bearings. Seals are provided to exclude water and dirt. If
it becomes necessary to replace the bearings, the Rollers are to be set by using a minimum 12” long
assembly must be thoroughly cleaned before installing straight edge, with one knife edge. Working from both
the new bearings. Pack the bearings with the sides of rear face of roller, straight edge is to match with
recommended lubricant. (See lube chart). chamfer on roller track (see below).

To take up bearings, tighten nut until roller cannot be


turned by hand, then back off until roller turns with slight
drag.

Face contact of track and roller is to be flat, no light


showing through contact under rated load.

Unloaded Drum Roller Alignment:

Maintain a space of .012” to .015” by shimming under


either side of roller bracket (see right).

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Roller Adjustments 51
Universal Drive Shaft

After the universal drive shaft has been assembled to CAUTION: If the yoke (00700) nut is not properly
the engine and pump, be sure that the following torqued to 175 ft. lbs., drive shaft failure may occur. In
conditions exist: most universal drive shaft installations, a slight
misalignment between driving and driven members is
a. The drive shaft joint are in phase (See Below) desirable but in no instance should the angle of the
universal drive shaft between joints and the shaft
b. The slip joint spline has ample engagement and that centerline of the driving or driven member exceed 6°.
at least 3/8” of clearance exists between the end of (See Pump and Universal Alignment)
the male spine and the bottom of the female spline.
(See Below)

Misaligned Aligned

52 Universal Drive Shaft © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
Pump and Universal Alignment

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved Pump and Universal Alignment 53
ZF Drum Drives
ZF was founded in 1915 by Count Zeppelin (the airship The hydrostatic motor has a shaft seal which prevents
Zeppelin) and is the world’s leading manufacturer of the hydraulic fluid in the motor from leaking around the
transmission systems including axles and steering. motor shaft under pressure. If this motor shaft seal
McNeilus Companies has used ZF’s Drum Drive since leaks, hydraulic oil and pressure can transfer from the
the 1970’s. Since that time several models of the ZF motor case to the ZF drive case. There is also an input
have been developed and put into production. Over the seal in the ZF input cavity around the splined receptacle.
years the torque rating of the ZF has continually This ZF seal is “nicked” at the factory in the 9:00 or 3:00
increased to meet the demands of larger capacity mixer o’clock position. The nick allows the ZF lubricant to leak
drums and lower slump concrete. from the drive and lubricate the spline on the motor shaft
and ZF splined receptacle. Without this lubrication, the
The ZF drive is a double planetary reduction drive. The motor spline and ZF receptacle will wear prematurely.
input rpm (where the motor is mounted) is reduced to the Because this seal is “nicked”, there will normally be 85W-
output rpm (the flange that bolts to the drum) by the ratio 140 lubricant in this cavity. The hydraulic fluid in the
of the drive. As an example, if the ratio is 144:1, the motor case is quite “thin” compared to the ZF lubricant.
flange rotates once for every 144 turns of the motor. Also the ZF lubricant has its own strong odor. If there is
This reduction is accomplished through planetary gears hydraulic fluid in this cavity, the motor seal is leaking.
which rotate around a sun gear. There are two sets of
planetary gears which accomplish the reduction. Anytime the drive is overfilled - either from servicing the
Planetary gears are very efficient and cool running. The drive or from a leaky hydrostatic motor seal - the excess
drive is around 96% efficient meaning only 4% of the lubricant will exit the drive around the output flange seal
input energy is used by the drive. This compares to 80% and show up on the drum head. This seal is a heavy
efficiency for many of the straight gear reduction drives. rubber lip seal which is quite strong. It is our experience
that a leaky ZF output seal is generally an indication of a
Servicing the ZF drive is critical to the overall lifetime of faulty motor seal or overfilled drive rather than a faulty ZF
the drive. The proper lubricant for the drive is 85W-140; output seal. The seal cavity also holds a quantity of
the same lubricant commonly used in differentials. The lubricant and may take two or three weeks for the
spec of the lubricant is GL-5. This lubricant is available lubricant around the seal cavity to dry up. Changing the
from nearly any oil distributor. seal is a difficult job which requires a 60 ton press. The
seal is one of the last items to come out of the drive
It is important that the ZF be serviced after the first 100 when it is completely disassembled. Never assume this
hours in service. The drive should be drained while the heavy rubber lip seal is faulty. It normally only leaks only
lubricant is warm. This 100 hour period is considered the when the drive is overfilled. A ZF Repair Manual is
“clean up” lubricant change for the drive. Any available from McNeilus if you are planning on working
contamination which washes from the new castings, on the drive.
bearings, gear wear-in, etc. can be drained at this time.
After the initial service the drive should be serviced every When changing the ZF drive it is important to retain the
six months or 1,000 hours; whichever comes first. flange in its normal centered position that it is in when the
drive is mounted on the mixer. Allowing the weight of the
Remember that the drive has a positive pressure within output flange to put its weight on the output seal may
the case. The drive design allows a minimum amount of damage the seal; especially if it’s left in that position for
internal pressure to develop as the lubricant and drive any length of time. For this reason a bracket with a 90∫
warm up. This positive internal pressure helps prevent bend should be fabricated. One end of the bracket
contamination from entering the internal drive should be bolted to the flat on top of the drive and the
components. This internal pressure also means that other to the flange. This bracket is especially important
caution must be used when removing any fill plugs from when storing a ZF drive for any length of time.
the drive while the drive is warm. Safety glasses must be
worn while servicing the ZF drive. Even though the There are flange bolts around the output flange which
internal pressure is minimal, the fill plug may want to secure the drive flange to the mixer drum socket. The
blow from its port and spray lubricant from the port. flange bolts should be torqued to 170 lb. ft and checked
Loosening the four hydrostatic motor mount bolts and on a weekly basis. There are threaded holes in the ZF
then loosening the hydrostatic motor will normally relieve flange which are unused. When removing the ZF flange
any pressure in the ZF drive. Any excess pressure from the drum socket, bolts can be threaded into these
developed in the drive is normally relieved by the output extra threaded flange holes around the flange and
flange seal. pressure applied from the flange to the drum socket by
tightening the bolts. This will help separate the ZF
The hydrostatic motor is bolted to the input of the drive. flange from the drum socket. The bolts work like a

54 ZF Drum Drive © 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved
ZF Drum Drives
puller to help separate the flange from the drum socket.
Heat may have to be applied to the flange and drum
socket area to separate the flange from the drum socket.

Normal maintenance of the ZF drive includes checking


the torque of the mounting bolts. It’s important to check
these mounting bolts that hold the ZF drive to the front
pedestal on a weekly basis. Acid wash and moisture can
get into the area where the six bolts pass through the ZF
mount and pedestal. Over a period of time the bolts can
deteriorate in these areas of the ZF drive mount and front
pedestal which can’t be readily seen or inspected. If a
bolt has deteriorated, it will break when torqued. If one
bolt breaks, all six should be replaced as all mounting
bolts should be considered to be in the same condition.
If only one bolt comes loose, the ZF drive mount may
crack. Should this happen, the entire drive will have to
be replaced. The correct bolt for the application and
which is installed at the factory is a Bowman product
called “Bowmalloy”. This Bowmalloy bolt is a Special
Ultra Hi-Strength Alloy Steel Quenched and Tempered
Bolt. The proof load of this bolt is 165,000 psi and the
tensile strength is 185,000 psi. No lesser bolt can be
installed in this ZF mount application! This Bowmalloy
bolt is readily available locally or from the McNeilus
branches (McNeilus P/N 020.100990).

If your mixer is S/N 14,669 or previous, the ZF mount


bolts will be a 3/4” bolt and should be torqued to 310 lb.
ft. If your mixer serial number is 14,670 or higher, the ZF
mount bolts will be a 7/8” bolt and should be torqued to
420 lb. ft.

Please call your McNeilus branch or McNeilus Truck and


Manufacturing’s Corporate Headquarters at 507-374-
6321 if you require assistance with the ZF drive or have
questions. We’re glad to help.

© 3/98 McNeilus Truck and Manufacturing Co. All Rights Reserved ZF Drum Drive 55
Fluid Power Equivalents
EXACT EQUIVALENTS: APPROXIMATE EQUIVALENTS

1 US Gallon = 231 Cubic Inches 1 Fluid Oz. (volume) = 600 drops of oil

1 Bar at Sea Level = 14.504 psi 1 Cubic Inch = 330 drops of oil
1 Cubic Centimeter (cc) = 6 drops
1 Horsepower = 33,000 Ft. Lbs. per Minute
= 2545 BTU per hour 1 Gallon = 3,785 Cubic Centimeter (cc)
= 746 Watts or 0.746 kw
1 Oz. = 28.4 Cubic Centimeter (cc)
1 PSI = 2.0416” Hg
= 27.72” Water Area of a Cylinder = Diameter Squared X .7854
= .0689 Bar
Force = Area X Pressure
1” HG = 0.490 PSI
= 1.131 Ft. Water Cylinder Volume = Area x Stroke ˜ 231
Pump Flow = Displacement x RPM ˜ 231
1 Atmosphere = 1.013 Bars
= 29.921” HG Horsepower = Flow X Pressure ˜ 1714
= 14.696 psi
BTU's per Hour = Horsepower x 2545
1 Foot Water Column = 0.432 psi
Torque (In./Lb) = Horsepower x 63025 ˜ RPM
1 Foot Oil Column = 0.354 psi
Torque in Ft./Lb = In./Lb ˜ 12
1 Barrel of Oil = 42 Gallons

1 Micro-Meter = 1 Millionth of a meter

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Common Abbreviations
15P: Parker Bridgemaster Filter N-M: Newton Meter
30P: Parker Bridgemaster Filter (older style) NO: Normally Open
2W2P: Two Way - Two Position (common cartridge) NPT: National Pipe Taper
3W2P: Three Way - Two Position (common cartridge( NPTF: National Pipe Taper Fuel
3W3P: Three Way - Three Position (common spool valve) OEM: Original Equipment Manufacturer
4W3P: Four Way - Three Position (common spool valve) ORS: O-Ring Seal
40CN: Parker Packer Return Line Filter PFD: Priority Flow Divider
▲ : Delta PTO: Power Take Off
P/N: Part Number
A-PAD: SAE Standard Pad for Mounting Pumps PV: Pump with Variable Swash plate
A-SPLINE: SAE Spline - 5/8”x 9 Tooth REGEN: Regeneration
AISI: American Iron and Steel Institute REL: Rear Loader
ANSI: American National Standards Institute RH: Right Hand (clockwise)
ASL: Automated Side Loader RPM: Revolutions per Minute
ASME: American Society of Mechanical Engineers RV: Relief Valve
ASTM: American Society for Testing Materials SA: Single Acting Cylinder
B-SPLINE: SAE Spline - 7/8”x 13 Tooth SAE: Society of Automotive Engineers
BTU: British Thermal Unit SE10: Mixer Hydro Filter
CB: Counter Balance SUS: Saybolt Universal Seconds
CCI: Cylinder City, Inc. TELE: Multi-Stage Telescopic Cylinder
CEC: Component Engineering Company TG: Tailgate
CFM: Cubic Feet per Minute TVS: Transient Voltage Spike
CIC: Commercial Intertech Company UNC: Unified National Coarse Threads (bolts)
C PAD: SAE”C” Pad Mount UNF: Unified National Fine Threads (bolts)
C-SPLINE: SAE Spline - 1-1/4” X 14 Tooth VA20: Commercial Intertech Spool Valve - 40 GPM
CC: Cubic Centimeters VA35: Commercial Intertech Spool Valve - 70 GPM
CD10: Muncie PTO VI: Viscosity Index
CID: Cubic Inch Displacement VIN: Vehicle Identification Number
CCW: Counterclockwise (also LH) VIP: Viscosity Index Improver
CW: Clockwise (also RH) WPRV: Work Port Relief Valve
CYL: Cylinder
DA: Double Acting Cylinder
DE: Dual Element
EOS: Electronic Overspeed
E-STOP: Emergency Stop
FE: Full Eject
FEL: Front End Loader
FF: Flow Fuse
GPM: Gallons Per Minute
GVW: Gross Vehicle Weight
GW: Gross Weight
HOC: Hydraulic Overspeed Control
HP: Horsepower
HPRV: High Pressure Relief Valve
IFI: Industrial Fasteners Institute
ISO: International Standards Organization
J20A: John Deere Oil Spec
JDM: John Deere Motorworks (oil specs)
LCD: Liquid Crystal Display
LED: Light Emitting Diode
LH: Left Hand (counterclockwise)
LORV: Lock Out Relief Valve
LPM: Liters per Minute
LPRV: Low Pressure Relief Valve
MF: Motor with Fixed Swash Plate
MIL: Military Specification
MM: Millimeter
MRV: Main Relief Valve
MS: Military Standard
MSL: Manual Side Loader
NEMA: Weatherproof Rating
NC: Normally Closed

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Index
10 Micron Filter Assembly, ............7, 37 Open Center Chute Valve Assembly,
......................................................45-47
A- B-C
P-Q-R
Accumulator Charge Kit, ....................5
adapters, ......................................2, 17 Periodic Inspection, ....................49-50
air chute lock, ......................................3 power limiters, ............................20, 28
air leaks, ............................................50 proper protective clothing, ..................4
ANSI, ............................................3, 57 Pump and Universal Alignment, ..52-53
Automatic Transmission Fluid, ......9, 50 Raise Position, ..................................46
blocking devices, ................................1 Rear Pedestal, ..................................42
Bridgemaster, ..........4-6, 10, 12, 50, 57 Roller Adjustments, ..........................51
Broken Pump Shaft, ....................36-37 Roller Alignment, ........................50-51
Charge Pump, ................10-15, 17-19, roller track, ..................................50-51
..........................................25-29, 34, 37
Charge Pump Rotation, ....................34 S-T-U
Charge Relief Valve, ..............25-27, 29
Check Valve, ..............................24, 44 SAE J1065, ..................................2, 11
contamination, ............9, 19, 21, 37, 54 Safety, ........................................1-7, 54
tapered roller bearings, ....................51
D-E-F trailer, ........................................4-6, 50
transmission, ................3, 9, 37, 50, 54
debouncer, ........................................50 Troubleshooting, ..........2, 17-21, 24-27,
Diagram Action Steps, ................28-29 ..........................................................48
electrical, ....................................3-4, 48 Tuck-A-Weigh, ................................4-6
extension chutes, ................................3 universal drive shaft, ........................52
External Oil Cooler Bypass, ........26-28
fault-logic charts, ..............................23 V-W-X-Y-Z
Fender, ..............................................43
vacuum gauge, ........11, 15, 17, 37, 50
G-H-I Vacuum Hose, ..................................28
Valve Plate Rotation, ........................35
high pressure, ..............2, 9-11, 13, 15, Water Tank Measurement, ..............41
..............................20-21, 26-29, 50, 57 ZF Drum Drives, ..........................54-55
Hydraulic Down Pressure, ..................5 ZF transmission, ..............................50
hydraulic fluid, ..........1, 9-11, 14, 38-39,
..........................................................54
Hydraulic Fluid Specifications, ....38-39,
..........................................................59
Hydraulic hoses, ........................1-2, 50
hydraulic pipe, ....................................2
Hydrostatic Installation, ....................37
Hydrostatic Pump, ................4, 6, 9-14,
....................................18-19, 30-31, 37

J-K-L

kit, ............2, 5, 7, 12-14, 17-18, 41, 50


Lock out, ..................................1, 3, 57
Lower Position, ................................47

M-N-O

Main, ................................3, 20, 50, 57


McNeilus Cable Lube Kit, ..................50
mixer drum, ................3, 24, 37, 50, 54
Molybdenum Disulphite, ....................37
o-ring, ..............5, 12-13, 18, 28-29, 57
oil, ....................1-2, 9-10, 17-21, 26-28,
........................37-39, 49-50, 54, 56-57
Oil Level, ................................26-28, 50
Open Center Chute Block, ................44

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