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How does all this work together – BW, BW on HANA, Suite on

HANA, HANA Live….. Part1
Posted by Ingo Hilgefort in BusinessObjects BI for SAP on May 28, 2013 3:31:30 PM
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As part of my new role focusing on SAP NetWeaver BW on SAP HANA and SAP BusinessObjects BI with SAP NetWeaver BW on
SAP HANA I am lately getting very often questions like these:

 With HANA, do I still need SAP BW ?

 With Suite on HANA, do I still need a DWH ?

I think those topics have been answered already by other people and I will share some links to their views here:

http://www.saphana.com/community/blogs/blog/2013/02/21/uncovering-the-value-of-sap-bw-powered-by-hana-answering-the-
second-question
http://www.saphana.com/community/blogs/blog/2013/04/03/the-hana-edw
http://www.saphana.com/community/blogs/blog/2012/08/24/new-sap-bw
http://scn.sap.com/people/thomas.zurek/blog/2010/10/15/the-bw--hana-relationship
http://scn.sap.com/people/thomas.zurek/blog/2012/06/18/why-bw-and-hana-are-such-a-good-combination
http://www.saphana.com/community/blogs/blog/2012/06/13/does-sap-hana-replace-bw-hint-no

In addition to those questions, there is also some form of confusion on how all these different elements do fit together, and that is the
part I would like to try to answer here. So how can a customer leverage BW, BW on HANA, Suite on HANA, HANA Live, and BI
together ?

As this is a topic that does require more than just a few sentences to describe the use cases, I would like to start with breaking up the
possible scenarios in a set of customer landscapes.

As you can see in the image above, I grouped the topic into 8 different scenarios or if you prefer the term “customer landscapes”.
 What I would like to do over the next couple of days, is to go through each of these scenarios and describe how a customer can use
products such as SAP BW on SAP HANA, Suite on HANA, HANA live (former HANA Analytical Foundation), or a customer
DWH built with SAP technology and how these components of an overall landscape do fit together (and not compete with each
other).

So in this blog post I will start with the Landscape #1.

In landscape #1 the example is a customer that is using a non-SAP based ERP environment without any existing DWH deployment.
So to give a concrete example, this could be a customer running Oracle EBS as OLTP environment and the customer has not invested
into a DWH solution.

So in this case, how could a customer leverage technologies like SAP HANA Live, or BW on HANA ?

Clearly the target customer for SAP HANA Live and SAP BW on SAP HANA is a customer that is using SAP ECC as OLTP
solution, perhaps not to a 100% but to some degree. In our example the customer is not using any SAP ECC deployment, so those
options are not suitable for landscape #1 (we will discuss a mixed scenario in landscape #4).

But could such a customer use SAP HANA ? Absolutely.

Looking back on the figure above you can see that landscape #8 will cover the scenario of such a customer creating a customer DWH
with SAP technology, so we will come back to this a little bit later.

In addition to creating a full custom DWH solution (our landscape #8), the customer could also go for a solution a little bit smaller
scale – Rapid Marts.

 SAP Rapid Marts are preconfigured packaged solutions that deliver best practice ETL mappings and BI content, accelerating the
deployment of end-to-end departmental BI solutions for key subject areas.
 Rapid Marts focus on standard configuration of the enterprise applications and they will require customization work to fit 100% of
customer requirements.
 They are meant to be easily extended and customized to suit customer-specific application implementation and departmental BI
needs.

So even though the customer might not use SAP ECC and might not use SAP NetWeaver BW, the customer can use SAP HANA as
part of his landscape.

In case you are interested to learn more about Rapid Marts, I would suggest this blog post from Ginger Gatling.
 This covers in a short overview the landscape #1 and in the next blog we will look at landscape #2.
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Chris Franz May 29, 2013 12:38 AM
It is nice to see some concrete examples of how SAP HANA can work in various scenarios. I am looking forward to the
rest of the examples.
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Joshua Fletcher May 29, 2013 4:27 AM
Looking forward to the rest of the series Ingo - great way to demonstrate the different scenarios, thanks!

Josh
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Ashutosh Mutsaddi May 29, 2013 8:22 AM
Ingo,
Very well written and informative! The classification of the scenarios itself is very elaborate.
The earlier blogs by other authors did not delve into this level of detail.

Thanks,
Ashutosh
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Teuku Faruq May 30, 2013 4:07 AM
Ingro, a good one as usual. However, what do you think the biggest barrier for customer to adopt HANA? Is it pricing?
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farooq khan May 30, 2013 5:54 AM
looking for rest series, thanks
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Rajiv Bahl Jun 5, 2013 11:20 PM
Ingo,

Excellent job on the full 3 part series and thanks for sharing !!!

Cheers,
Rajiv Bahl
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R Trivikram Rao Karnam Jun 13, 2013 12:55 PM
Hi Ingo,
 Very good article.

Thanks,
TR
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Chintada Shankar Jul 11, 2013 7:01 PM
Great Information.

Regards
Shankar
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Pierre Duske Jul 30, 2013 6:00 PM
Great series Ingo.
Thanks
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Kamal Mehta Aug 17, 2013 6:21 PM
Thanks .

Very useful.
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khalid khalil Aug 21, 2013 12:05 PM
well explained, thank you, looking forward to get information on 2 landscape 2
greetings - khalid
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Quang Tran Sep 5, 2013 6:17 AM
Greate resources - thanks for sharing. I particular like the Customer System Landscape slide. Where can I find the full deck
of the same? Don't seem to be able to find it in the SAP Employee Portal.

Thanks.
Quang.
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Shivaprakash Balaraman Sep 11, 2014 11:58 AM
Very interesting and Good to know more about the combination in those areas

Thanks,
Shiva
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Kishore Balachandran Jan 17, 2015 9:16 AM
A very useful blog that gives better understanding ...