Ukedchat Archive 30 September 2010

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@Ideas_Factory Truly gutted. Thort I'd make it 2night but what with
emergency Dr apt for daughter & govs. Just got in, out again..
dughall 19:52 #ukedchat
@ICTEvangelist the tweets will be archived on the #ukedchat site, I'm
sure
ICTtower 19:54
RT @Pauls_elearning: Dropbox Giving .EDU Addresses 500 MB per
Referral http://t.co/7g8Jh6A via @lifehacker #edchat #ukedchat
Biz_Ferris 19:54
Ok. Flying Start Education Magazine has finally finished set up. click
here + introduce yourself to us #ukedchat http://tinyurl.com/36gbsp8
Flyingstartedu 19:54
Ok. Flying Start Education Magazine has finally finished set up. click
here + introduce yourself to us #ukedchat http://tinyurl.com/36gbsp8
flyingstartmag 19:54
@Ideas_Factory #ukedchat sorry can't make it tonight - sounds like it
will be a top one :)
primarypete_ 19:54
RT @Flyingstartedu: Ok. Flying Start Education Magazine has finally
finished set up. click here + introduce yourself to us #ukedchat
himupnorth 19:55 http://tinyurl.com/36gbsp8
#ukedchat to start in 1 minute.What skills/statements should be on a
new ICT curriculum-fit for 21st Century pupils?
Ideas_Factory 19:56
The Blog Up North: Today's lesson: communicate! http://wp.me/pZCVi-
m6 #ukedchat
himupnorth 19:57
RT @ICTtower: For those who will miss tonight's #ukedchat, the
archive is here: http://tinyurl.com/386ycu5
janwebb21 19:57
RE http://bit.ly/9G0IQo Will be at #ulearn10 but this might be good for
some #in #teachers #ACEL #c21skills #elearning #edchat #ukedchat
dakinane 19:57
For those who will miss tonight's #ukedchat, the archive is here:
http://tinyurl.com/386ycu5
ICTtower 19:57
RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat to start in 1 minute.What
skills/statements should be on a new ICT curriculum-fit for 21st
chrismayoh 19:57 Century pupils?
RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat to start in 1 minute.What
skills/statements should be on a new ICT curriculum-fit for 21st
janwebb21 19:57 Century pupils?
Looking forward to #ukedchat although I'm absolutely shattered. Will
stick around for as long as I can manage!
chrismayoh 19:57
@Ideas_Factory curriculum needs to be skills based so children are
equipped to cope with changing nature of tech in life #ukedchat
janwebb21 19:58
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over the next hour or so, all of my tweets will be related to #ukedchat,
focussing on changing the curriculum for the 21st century
ianaddison 19:58
RT @Ideas_Factory: Will segment the session into 3 parts- 1st part-
Guiding Principles that should underpin curriculum? Please RT
DeputyMitchell 19:58 #ukedchat
#ukedchat Will segment the session into 3 parts- 1st part-Guiding
Principles that should underpin curriculum? Please RT
Ideas_Factory 19:58
#ukedchat - So much for a night off!! This will be too good to miss
really!
DeputyMitchell 19:58
RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Will segment the session into 3 parts-
1st part-Guiding Principles that should underpin curriculum? Please RT
chrismayoh 19:59
RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Will segment the session into 3 parts-
1st part-Guiding Principles that should underpin curriculum? Please RT
kvnmcl 19:59
#ukedchat are we talking curriculum = subject or curriculum = whole
education?
didactylos 19:59
RT @ianaddison: over the next hour or so, all of my tweets will be
related to #ukedchat, focussing on changing the curriculum for the
islayian 20:00 21st century
#ukedchat cyber citizenship thread to run through all curriculum. Build
online reputation & use web wisely
Baggiepr 20:00
ICT shouldn't be just a skill set apart, it need to be seen as a
collaborative tool for every part of the curriculum #ukedchat
kvnmcl 20:00
@Ideas_Factory ICT through curriculum or curriculum through ICT is
big factor #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:00
OK here goes #ukedchat opens with-What guiding principles should
underpin the ICT curriculum for the 21st Century?
Ideas_Factory 20:00
RT @Ideas_Factory: OK here goes #ukedchat opens with-What guiding
principles should underpin the ICT curriculum for the 21st Century?
Ariellah 20:01
#ukedchat guiding principle is that skills are long term skills and are not
'gadget' or software related
didactylos 20:01
RT @kvnmcl: ICT shouldn't be just a skill set apart, it need to be seen
as a collaborative tool for every part of the curriculum #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:01
I have taken the liberty of scheduling tweets, since I can't be here in
body! One every 10 mins, apologies if any seem off-topic! #ukedchat
ColinTGraham 20:01
@kvnmcl absolutely agree - ICT skills taught in authentic context is
very important tho need 2 develop skills sometimes #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:02
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@didactylos #ukedchat guiding principle is that skills are long term
skills and are not 'gadget' or software related Completely agree!
Ideas_Factory 20:02
@islayian i imagine english as we only focus on that! probably wrong,
but hopefully everyone will benefit #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:02
#ukedchat ICT should increasingly become capability at KS2 like it is at
KS3. Using and applying it is crucial - end of discrete subject?
philallman1 20:02
#ukedchat - The model that one curriculum fits all is out dated, A
curriculum needs to be flexible so can be relevant to the target
DeputyMitchell 20:02 learners
@ianaddison As I suspected so not really #ukedchat then?
islayian 20:03
skills should be taught, but let's teach how to 'do a presentation' and
not how to 'do a powerpoint' #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:03
#ukedchat guiding principle prove you are web safe = greater web
tools to use. Responsibility determines level of access.
Baggiepr 20:03
RT @Ideas_Factory: @didactylos #ukedchat guiding principle is that
skills are long term skills and are not 'gadget' or software related
janwebb21 20:03 Completely agree!
Needs to be relevant. QCA was supposed to be an exemplar but was so
complete as a scheme that it was often used out of the box #ukedchat
chrismayoh 20:04
@ianaddison skills that we need to teach need to transcend the
software #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:04
@islayian i can't discuss scottish or welsh as i have no experience, we
welcome you to contribute though. We have a wide audience
ianaddison 20:04 #ukedchat
#ukedchat skills need to be grounded in purpose : ICT curriculum??
should ICT not underpin ALL of the curriculum?
Catriona_O 20:04
#ukedchat so the time validated skills are facilitated and improved by
the use of new technology
didactylos 20:04
#ukedchat So what kind of principles can be applied that will be 'future-
proof'?
Ideas_Factory 20:04
RT @kvnmcl: ICT shouldn't be just a skill set apart, it need to be seen
as a collaborative tool for every part of the curriculum #ukedchat
BryanPlumb 20:04
@philallman1 i'm at a new school but aim to remove most discrete ict
next year #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:04
@ianaddison Agreed. And what's the point of 'doing a presentation' if
there is no opportunity to actually present it!? #ukedchat
chrismayoh 20:05
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RT @Ideas_Factory: OK here goes #ukedchat opens with-What guiding
principles should underpin the ICT curriculum for the 21st Century?
4goggas 20:05
Scheduled 1: Understand what a digital footprint is and take steps to
monitor their own #ukedchat
ColinTGraham 20:05
RT @colport: A key principle, for me, is how to use internet safely.
From KS1 and onwards and throughout. #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:06
@Ideas_Factory Don't think there's such a thing as making it future-
proof. Needs to be evolving all the time according to need #ukedchat
chrismayoh 20:06
RT @chrismayoh: And what's the point of 'doing a presentation' if
there is no opportunity to actually present it!? #ukedchat ABSoLUTELY
ForesterJo 20:06
I teach a purely skills based ICT curriculum in the mornings but there's
still fun to be had #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:06
@islayian #ukedchat doesn't the question apply whichever part of the
uk we are in?
janwebb21 20:06
The importance of e-safety and implications of ones own actions.
#ukedchat
BryanPlumb 20:06
#ukedchat Is this ICT curriculum or just 'curriculum? Just want
clarification
OK, I don't /think/ you can have an ICT curriculum without some skills
and knowledge, but I suspect it's attitudes which are key #ukedchat
mberry 20:06
@ianaddison #ukedchat is it the doing that is taught or the
understanding of what makes quality that is encouraged?
didactylos 20:06
children need to know how to find things out when they don't know
how to use bits of ICT. Teach them how to use help files etc #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:06
A key principle, for me, is how to use internet safely. From KS1 and
onwards and throughout. #ukedchat
colport 20:06
#ukedchat Every curriculum needs focus-looking first at principles then
skills and finally capability tonight 3part session
Ideas_Factory 20:06
@didactylos i would (and will) teach how to use different software, but
also points like choice of colour/style, layout etc #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:07
@mberry attitudes and transferrable skills - so need to teach in
context so choices about applying skills are taught #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:07
#ukedchat Children should be taught language-based principles that
underpin use of new ICT media e.g. podcasts, digital movies &
ParsleyBill 20:07 animation.
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#ukedchat Underlying principles of curriculum design: we have a few
ideas on that - http://bit.ly/bkXx5S
Catriona_O 20:07
@DeputyMitchell It is mainly ICT Curriculum, although it does impact
on other curriculum areas. #ukedchat
colport 20:07
#ukedchat not convinced teaching how to create a presentation is the
key - what a presentation is and what makes a brilliant one - YES
didactylos 20:07
10 years ago sch I was in got outst. in ICT and didn't teach discrete. ICT
is just another tool of the trade for chn and teachers #ukedchat
philallman1 20:07
We teach ICT skills through brief instruction then freedom to
investigate. Throw in at deep end #ukedchat
tobyholman 20:08
Look at technology today, design an approach for that&what's to
come. Kids are adept and prolific users compared to 10yrs ago
kvnmcl 20:08 #ukedchat
#ukedchat How to make a presentation ( like Powerpoint) is not very
relevant if using Prezi.
didactylos 20:08
Should we be teaching keyboard/typing skills as well alongside?
#ukedchat
colport 20:08
RT @squiggle7: ch need to know how to find things out when they
don't know how to use bits of ICT.Teach them how to use help files
One's looking for learners to emerge with confidence and
independence; to do something useful with something previously
mberry 20:08 unfamiliar #ukedchat
@didactylos absolutely - the real skill is how to communicate
thoughts/ideas through the presentation to make it effective
janwebb21 20:08 #ukedchat
RT @ParsleyBill: #ukedchat Children should be taught language-based
principles that underpin use of new ICT media e.g. podcasts, digital
Ideas_Factory 20:08 movies & animation.
@colport I don't think in isolation. The ICT curr should be embedded in
the rest of the curriculum. #ukedchat
philallman1 20:08
@didactylos #ukedchat and hopefully the speaking part so they can
actually deliver it!
ianaddison 20:08
@chrismayoh #ukedchat On the other we can't keep changing it every
time a piece of new technology comes out?
Ideas_Factory 20:08
@ewanmcintosh Much healthier totally agree but culturally we still
stick to measuring the skills #ukedchat
islayian 20:09
@colport we teach handwriting skills don't we? #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:09
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@didactylos #ukedchat - effect of ICT is felt across curriculum. It is a
pillar for many other things so it's curriculum is integral to all
frogphilp 20:09
@colport typing skills a MUST in my opinion, having just discovered my
year 4 class can't type
squiggle7 20:09
@philallman1 Totally agree. Do any primary teachers still teach ICT as
a distinct subject? #ukedchat
colport 20:09
Gear ICT to fit cross-curricular teaching, children will learn their ICT
skills incidentally #ukedchat
Mr_Thorne 20:09
@kvnmcl they are also more discerning #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:09
@ianaddison @didactylos and the listening part so they can get
feedback! Feedback is a gift! #ukedchat
@philallman1 seems like this is quite a common train of thought
#ukedchat
janwebb21 20:09
#ukedchat Why should any subject be taught discretely when they are
all intertwined in adult life?
Crosbiei 20:09
@chrismayoh @ForesterJo Our pupils are expected to 'present' any
ppts, prezis etc. in front of class for peer evaluation #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:09
RT @philallman1: @colport I don't think in isolation. The ICT curr
should be embedded in the rest of the curriculum. #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:09
@didactylos but skills such as 'not putting too much text on the pres
and reading it all out loud' need to be taught. ppt or prezi #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:10
@colport add "and responsibly" to "safely" - cyberbullying and loss of
innocence are big issues. #ukedchat
mberry 20:10
@philallman1 Agree. Core skills through ICT, additional through other.
More implementation #ukedchat
tobyholman 20:10
#ukedchat What about using lateral/creative thinking skills?
Ideas_Factory 20:11
@colport our school teaches ICT completely discretely. I will change
that over the coming year. #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:11
RT @bevevans22: @chrismayoh @ForesterJo Our pupils are expected
to 'present' any ppts, prezis etc. in front of class for peer evaluation
chrismayoh 20:11 #ukedchat
QCA was designed to be easy to follow&is. A new approach requires
the same ease of use, you can't put in too many tools. Focus.
kvnmcl 20:11 #ukedchat
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RT @Mr_Thorne: Gear ICT to fit cross-curricular teaching, children will
learn their ICT skills incidentally #ukedchat
didactylos 20:11
RT @colport: A key principle, for me, is how to use internet safely >>>
& other tech, mobile phones etc #ukedchat
MoodleMcKean 20:11
@colport key skills taught discretely but then taken on and embedded
across the curriculum by class teachers #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:11
If we are preparing students for life after school there has to be more
to ICT than 'training' students to use Office software #ukedchat
cleverfiend 20:11
@didactylos i'd rather my children knew about 3 or 4 different tools to
present their work, I will teach ppt, but also others too #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:11
@ianaddison @colport am going to change my handwriting sessions to
half HW, half typing #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:11
RT @mberry: @colport add "and responsibly" to "safely" -
cyberbullying and loss of innocence are big issues. #ukedchat Just
Ideas_Factory 20:11 thinking same!
@colport #ukedchat many learners don't need keyboarding, but some
are lamentably unable to - and its a real sen issue
didactylos 20:11
@ianaddison #ukedchat want to get below that level of knowledge, in
a few years will 'powerpoint type presos' be the way people work
didactylos 20:12 anyway?
RT @ianaddison: i'd rather my children knew about 3/4 different tools
to present their work, I'll teach ppt, but also others too #ukedchat
@Crosbiei Because some skills need to be taught by specialist staff so
that non-specialists can concentrate on content #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:12
@simonhaughton of course, or kizoa...lots out there, but limited on
space. lots of tools, some similar, some diff #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:12
@janwebb21 the context does matter, and better IMH(?)O to link with
other learning that something artificially 'relevant'/'trendy' #ukedchat
mberry 20:12
sorry, forgot again, but late #ukedchat
mynictle 20:12
How many teachers of ICT ask rest of school which skills are NOT
needed? #ukedchat
tobyholman 20:12
#ukedchat children need to be able to apply their skills to a variety of
apps - schools that offer few aren't preparing pupils for future
ictprimarysch 20:13
@ianaddison handwriting, yes, but why? #ukedchat
mberry 20:13
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RT @bevevans22: @colport key skills taught discretely but then taken
on and embedded across the curriculum by class teachers #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:13
@Mr_Thorne don't think we can rely on incidental for all ICT learning -
needs some agreement about the core skills #ukedchat
curricadvocate 20:13
RT @ianaddison: @didactylos i'd rather my children knew about 3 or 4
different tools to present their work #ukedchat <-me too
bevevans22 20:13
RT @mberry: @janwebb21 the context does matter, and better
IMH(?)O to link with other learning that something artificially
Ideas_Factory 20:13 'relevant'/'trendy' #ukedchat
@mberry in FE College we have changed from acceptable use policy to
responsible use policy. Educating not banning #ukedchat
MoodleMcKean 20:13
@squiggle7 Keyboard skills, and shortcuts on computers (eg Ctrl+V to
Paste)? (@ianaddison ) #ukedchat
colport 20:13
@islayian exactly! #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:13
RT @tobyholman: How many teachers of ICT ask rest of school which
skills are NOT needed? #ukedchat how many others would know what
philallman1 20:13 wasn't?
@ICTtower #ukedchat such as?
didactylos 20:14
RT @MoodleMcKean: @mberry in FE College we have changed from
acceptable use policy to responsible use policy. Educating not banning
SkoorBttaM 20:14 #ukedchat
#ukedchat Ok So let's have some suggestions for 'taught' skills-For eg
Pupils able to deciminate, research, find and present information
Ideas_Factory 20:14
@mberry head feeling woolly tonight so was just trying to figure out if
ou were agreeing or disagreeing wi my comment! #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:14
Am sure we all agree :RT @cleverfiend: ... there has to be more to ICT
than 'training' students to use Office software #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:14
@didactylos possibly, but what if they're not? What if prezi-style
becomes the norm? I just want my children to be adaptable #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:14
@colport we def trying move away from tching it discretely but then
onus more on clss tchrs to ensure coverage not ICT co-ord #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:14
@JaneDavis13 as a key principle for future ICT objectives? #ukedchat
colport 20:14
@frogphilp #ukedchat I get what i think you mean - like writing and
speaking its how we 'do things' its how we learn best
didactylos 20:14
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@colport yes, definitely, they don't know how to cut/paste either. Will
be doing lots of work on that! #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:14
Teaching of ICT is dependent on school resources though. u can't
embed it across the curriculum if all u have is a laptop trolley
@JaneDavis13 #ukedchat really starting to dislike the term 'soft skills'
its a label that immediately devalues
didactylos 20:15
@bevevans22 think this may be how we have to make the shift but
skills taught in way that fit for purpose #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:15
@mberry I'm very keen that the context should be relevant and real =
authentic opportunity to choose ICT tools not contrived #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:15
@curricadvocate thats true! i just dont want to spend an ICT lesson
teaching how to log on #ukedchat
Mr_Thorne 20:15
Another thing I do ( inked to Loxton ladders so poss. not applicable in
England) is similar skills at same time across year groups #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:15
RT @MoodleMcKean: @mberry in FE College we have changed from
acceptable use policy to responsible use policy.Educating not banning
RT @ICTtower: RT @bevevans22: @colport key skills taught discretely
but then taken on and embedded across the curriculum by class
Ideas_Factory 20:15 teachers #ukedchat
@squiggle7 I am currently doing that with my Year 2's, as they make
bios with 2Publish+ #ukedchat
colport 20:15
@ianaddison Interested as to why? #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:15
would love to join in with #ukedchat tonight but I have the evils of
ofsted to deal with again tomorrow and too much to do :(
missbrownsword 20:15
@mberry why teach handwriting? it's worth 3 points on sats papers?
#ukedchat (my handwriting is bloody awful)
ianaddison 20:15
Scehduled 2: Be able to explain the differences between different
forms of social media, such as Facebook, Twitter, Chatrooms, etc
ColinTGraham 20:15 #ukedchat
@MoodleMcKean I've not found any sites blocked here (Uni.) but have
never seen anything 'inappropriate' on PCs in IT rooms #ukedchat
mberry 20:16
@colport Castells (2000 ish) wrote about the soft skills needed for
those having to work in the global economy - ICT as tool #ukedchat
JaneDavis13 20:16
Anyone find other subject teachers aren't happy/confident using ICT in
their own subject? #ukedchat
Laura_987 20:16
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@ianaddison #ukedchat I don't think we actually disagree, i just think
we are emphasising differently
didactylos 20:16
@KnikiDavies Yes, so there is another key principle we need to think
about - cropping & use of digital images. #ukedchat
colport 20:16
#ukedchat Just like any area of any curriculum it should be 'real'
'relevant' and ?? Damn...can't think of a 3rd 'R'!!
@ianaddison #ukedchat Common misconception-what does 3 points
make for HW when being able to write with a purpose is worth 20
Ideas_Factory 20:16
already can't keep up #ukedchat
mynictle 20:16
@ICTtower cos currently there is no cross-curricular ICT at all. I want to
embed it everywhere too. (i;m new to school) #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:16
RT @MoodleMcKean: in FE College we have changed from acceptable
use policy to responsible use policy. Educating not banning #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:16
@ICTtower Does learning need to be specialised in primary?I can
understand some specialism in 2ndary due to make up of ed system
Crosbiei 20:16 .#ukedchat
@ForesterJo Good point....it has to be taught among the whole school -
IT co-ord ensuring success. #ukedchat
colport 20:16
RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Ok So let's have some suggestions for
'taught' skills-eg Pupils able to deciminate,research,find/present info
kvnmcl 20:16
#ukedchat critical analysis skills; thinking and processing skills; Base
skills in place and tech skills developed as required
islayian 20:16
@JaneDavis13 It was true then....even more important ten years on!
#ukedchat
colport 20:17
Look at work of Mike Askew - best teachers are those that make links
between subjects, therefore teaching ICT discretely is #fail #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:17
We should be teaching that there r a range of tools 2 complete any
given task. Pupils should feel competent 2 select and use well
#ukedchat principles for ICT Curriculum; Ensure progression in basic
Skills (such as typing, PP/ Word, Search,etc) starting early
Ariellah 20:17
@mynictle you and me both! #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:17
my twopenneth let's have social net working teaching to go alongside
drugs & sex ed #ukedchat
mynictle 20:17
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RT @ianaddison: @mberry why teach handwriting? it's worth 3 points
on sats papers? #ukedchat (my handwriting is bloody awful) no marks
philallman1 20:17 then!
@ianaddison I do think hw is important esp. in dvmt of fine motor
skills but typing skills just as, if nt more important for chn #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:17
RT @islayian: #ukedchat critical analysis skills; thinking and processing
skills; Base skills in place and tech skills developed as required
Ideas_Factory 20:17
RT @islayian: #ukedchat critical analysis skills; thinking and processing
skills; Base skills in place and tech skills developed as required
karencymru 20:17
@Mr_Thorne perhaps that's where the setting up of it systems should
be considered. can logging on be made easier and e-safe? #ukedchat
@Laura_987 #ukedchat yes, because they think they have to be
experts on the mechanics - they don't - experts on its use they do
didactylos 20:18
@ianaddison Not ppossible to do both? Timetable constraints?
#ukedchat
ICTtower 20:18
Another key principle is using a mouse! My Year 2's were amazed by
the right-click facility! Opened up new world! #ukedchat
colport 20:18
RT @chrismayoh: teach that there r a range of tools 2 complete any
given task. Pupils should feel competent 2 select and use well
BryanPlumb 20:18 #ukedchat
@philallman1 but SATs shouldn't be the be all and end all in deciding
what we teach #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:18
@kvnmcl @islayian #ukedchat can't go too far wrong with Blooms
taxonomy, eh no??!
Catriona_O 20:18
@didactylos I can understand that - you have a better descriptor?
#ukedchat
JaneDavis13 20:18
@Laura_987 #ukedchat still think there is general opinion / attitude
those staff that will try new things and those that wont!
ForesterJo 20:18
#ukedchat I would say most important is the ability to choose the
correct tool for the job at hand
Crosbiei 20:18
@janwebb21 depends on what you meant by context! I /think/ I was
agreeing, but I could be wrong. #ukedchat
mberry 20:18
RT @DeputyMitchell: #ukedchat Just like any area of any curriculum it
should be 'real' 'relevant' and 'researched'?
Ideas_Factory 20:18
RT @Ariellah: #ukedchat principles for ICT Curriculum; Ensure
progression in basic Skills (such as typing, PP/ Word, Search,etc)
Ideas_Factory 20:19 starting early
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@colport exactly - even at primary level we are preparing leathers for
the wider social environs but via ICT etc #ukedchat
JaneDavis13 20:19
I learnt ICT on BBC Micro, Mac, PC, Apricot, Risc Os - many different
platforms require FLEXIBILITY - that is a key ICT skill. #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:19
RT @Catriona_O: @kvnmcl @islayian #ukedchat can't go too far wrong
with Blooms taxonomy, eh no??!.... so true
islayian 20:19
@mberry I came to the conclusion that you were agreeing!!!!! in my
primary context the ict fits with our cross curricular approach
#ukedchat This cross-curricular discussion is pointing to one thing-
Transferability! The skills taught must be transferable 2 other subjects
Ideas_Factory 20:19
@didactylos probably! can sometimes be hard to have a proper chat in
140 characters :-) #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:19
RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Common misconception-what does 3
pts make for HW when being able to write with a purpose is worth 20-
SkoorBttaM 20:19 gd point!
RT @Crosbiei: #ukedchat I would say most important is the ability to
choose the correct tool for the job at hand <capability again!
philallman1 20:19
#ukedchat they need the freedom to be able to do this - are we as
teachers too prescriptive a lot of the time ? do we give that freedom?
ForesterJo 20:20
@ICTtower i want teachers to see ICT as something that enhances
what they do in literacy, not just something totally different #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:20
@didactylos Good point #ukedchat
Laura_987 20:20
Basic skill set-keyboard, Mouse, trackpad, OS, word processing,
application tools all from an early age #ukedchat
kvnmcl 20:20
@DeputyMitchell and i would advocate investing time in developing
PLNs. i have been on an ict learning journey of terrific
curricadvocate 20:20 speed..#ukedchat
@janwebb21 Well in that case, yes, definitely. X-Curricular is a Good
Thing. #ukedchat
mberry 20:20
#ukedchat ICT tools will
glynnlee 20:20
@ICTtower it will be possible, but I won't need as much discrete ict if
also being combined with other subjects #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:20
@JaneDavis13 #ukedchat no but I'd love for someone to come up with
one!
didactylos 20:20
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To explain further, all pupils cover internet safety at same time at right
level for them (good for differentiating) #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:20
#ukedchat - surely it is about chdn feeling competent to make a choice
on how to access / deliver / present their work however......
ForesterJo 20:20
RT @frogphilp: I learnt ICT on BBC Micro, Mac, PC, Apricot, Risc Os -
many different platforms require FLEXIBILITY - that is a key ICT skill.
lisibo 20:20 #ukedchat
RT @ianaddison: @ICTtower i want teachers to see ICT as something
that enhances what they do in literacy, not just something totally
Crosbiei 20:21 different #ukedchat
people end up selecting the tools, they know, not the best one for the
task. #ukedchat
fcbsd 20:21
#ukedchat but how do teachers with less skills keep up?
ictprimarysch 20:21
@mynictle we will be teaching about social networking, rightly or
wrongly, children need to know how to be safe #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:21
@Ideas_Factory #ukedchat What's the point in being able to use a
tool/skill if it's only in one context? Very limiting!
Crosbiei 20:21
@DeputyMitchell robust? #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:21
@Crosbiei Is there a 'correct' tool though, or is it down to choice?
Why not use word 2 make a poster and pub to type a letter?
RT @kvnmcl Basic skill set-keyboard, Mouse, trackpad, OS, word
processing, application tools all from an early age < totally agree
squiggle7 20:21 #ukedchat
#ukedchat Spiral ICT curriculum -where progress in skills aims to
achieve 21st century skills such as communication and collaboration
Ariellah 20:21
@Titian73 Are you joining in with #ukedchat? Get on over, it's good
fun. About ICT this week. Acetates- I really couldn't be bothered!
Laura_987 20:21
@Catriona_O Definitely a good starting base (or until another comes
along) #ukedchat
kvnmcl 20:21
Mr_Thorne 20:21 different #ukedchat
@mberry older learners (uni) hopefully have more responsibility for
their actions. Safeguarding issue in school & college #ukedchat
MoodleMcKean 20:21
feel that the social networking teaching is vital, should be done to
teach to give an informed choice #ukedchat
mynictle 20:21
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@ICTtower e.g. they spent 5sessions making a persuasive leaflet, but
didn't think to link it to literacy and persuasion! #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:21
Transferability - functional flexibility. Same thing. PPT / Office / Mac
any single system only does not encourage flexibility #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:21
@mberry and to some extent a cross curricular approach is easier in
primary + -dare I say- more potential for flexible curriculum #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:21
Do we only teach the skills for software that we're comfortable with
ourselves? Isn't that a major hurdle?? #ukedchat
SkoorBttaM 20:22
@ianaddison sounds like you have your work cut out! #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:22
A set of digital literacies that need to be taught if pupils are to be tech
savvy - hypertext, tagging, information, triangulation #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:22
Information/digital literacy must be core #ukedchat
MoodleMcKean 20:22
RT @mynictle: my twopenneth let's have social net working teaching
to go alongside drugs & sex ed #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:22
Mr_Thorne 20:22 #ukedchat
Yup! > >RT @Crosbiei: #ukedchat I would say most important is the
ability to choose the correct tool for the job at hand
chrismayoh 20:22
#ukedchat Sooo-we're all thinking in the 'NOW' & how technology
moves-what skills do you think will be useful for pupils in the future?
Ideas_Factory 20:22
@janwebb21 Yes!!!! I likey! #ukedchat
@ianaddison I see, totally agree! #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:22
@didactylos 'social competences' ...? Eek! #ukedchat
JaneDavis13 20:22
@curricadvocate A shame so many people do not invest the time in
developing PLN's! #ukedchat
RT @ForesterJo: #ukedchat - surely it is about chdn feeling competent
to make a choice on how to access / deliver / present their work
Mr_Thorne 20:22 however......
@Crosbiei Not sure, am 2ndary, I think not but requires all teachers to
be confident in delivery #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:22
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might keep up better if i stopped doing everything else I am doing on
my laptop #ukedchat
mynictle 20:23
@ForesterJo totally, but I love it. In 4 weeks we have achieved so so
much, give me a year and it'll be amazing #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:23
RT @colport: Another key principle is using a mouse! My Year 2's were
amazed by the right-click facility! Opened up new world! #ukedchat
LisaHandley 20:23
@ictprimarysch Teachers with less skills MUST develop their skills.
Otherwise they will find their class will leave them behind #ukedchat
kvnmcl 20:23
Agreed! RT @squiggle7: @colport typing skills a MUST in my opinion,
having just discovered my year 4 class can't type #ukedchat
Ariellah 20:23
@ICTtower there will be some skills ICT, but will be 'how to use ABC'
then they spend some sessions using it to make something #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:23
@DeputyMitchell real, robust, relevant is good!!!!!! #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:23
RT @kvnmcl: @ictprimarysch Tchrs with less skills MUST dev their
skills. O'wise they will find their class will leave them behind #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:24
@mynictle here's our facebook guidance http://bit.ly/9lnyoa
#ukedchat
ianaddison 20:24
RT @Ideas_Factory:So-we're all thinking in the 'NOW' & how tech
moves-what skills will be useful for pupils in the future? #ukedchat
colport 20:24
#ukedchat Tools-be wary of using specific tools in a curiculum-
Research using CD-ROM anyone?
Ideas_Factory 20:24
RT @SkoorBttaM: Do we only teach the skills for software that we're
comfortable with ourselves? #ukedchat < capping ability grrrr!
philallman1 20:24
@MoodleMcKean Still think that education is as good a bit of
'safeguarding' as you can do, (& still works with 3G phones & MiFi)
mberry 20:24 #ukedchat
Digital literacies continued - e-safety, filtering, networking literacies -
all need to be taught #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:24
Any teaching about where information comes from?For e.g. that
wikipedia can be edited by anyone. Excuse ignorance, I'm new (#PGCE)
Laura_987 20:24 #ukedchat
@skoorBttaM Im a big fan of using pupils themselves to do the
teaching, as they often know more about ICT than the teachers!
Crosbiei 20:24 #ukedchat
@SkoorBttaM #ukedchat if chdn knew how to use both then surely
they could make the choice as to which they could use for what?
ForesterJo 20:24
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RT @Crosbiei: @skoorBttaM Im a big fan of using pupils themselves to
do the teaching, as they often know more about ICT than the teachers!
@ianaddison #ukedchat will hold you to that!!!!! Only joing - making
the same difference in Forest School so I know just how you feel!
ForesterJo 20:25
@skoorBttaM #ukedchat need to be comfortable with being out of our
own comfort zone so we can teach kids the same
janwebb21 20:25
@kvnmcl #ukedchat I agree but to get them to invest the time will be
difficult with all other curriculum pulls on time
ictprimarysch 20:25
blogs, should be written in to a policy somehow, guidelines etc
#ukedchat
mynictle 20:25
#ukedchat 'soft skills' are actually the skills that make for 'success in
life - so maybe 'success skills?'
didactylos 20:25
RT @mynictle: my twopenneth let's have social net working teaching
to go alongside drugs & sex ed #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:25
@26Tim Yeah, worrying! #ukedchat
Laura_987 20:25
RT @Crosbiei: @skoorBttaM Im a big fan of using pupils themselves to
do the teaching, as they often know more about ICT than the teachers!
@carolrainbow would agree - the whole interconnectivity spectrum
needs exploration - with stabilizers #ukedchat
JaneDavis13 20:25
@Ideas_Factory CD what? ;-) seriously, that part needs to be removed
#ukedchat
kvnmcl 20:25
@SkoorBttaM it takes a different mindset to teach software that we
aren't comfortable with #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:25
RT @ictprimarysch: #ukedchat but how do teachers with less skills
keep up? < could swap wth a colleague and you teach your specialism?
Mr_Thorne 20:25
#ukedchat I want to ensure that my pupils have strategies for
supporting their thinking and learning quickly, and can determine what
curricadvocate 20:25 is good
Scheduled 3: Be able to locate and download a variety of open-source
applications to PCs, mobile phones and hand-held devices #ukedchat
ColinTGraham 20:25
how can you ensure teachers keep up? How about
www.ictvideohelp.co.uk or http://edte.ch/blog/interesting-ways/
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#elearning #ukedchat Steven Johnson's book, Where Good Ideas Come
From - in animation! http://bit.ly/aiyr9d Fantastic! via @PenguinBooks
CliveBuckley 20:26
@ICTtower #ukedchat maybe as a complete cross curricular deliverer I
don't see why these have to be wrapped up in ICT
didactylos 20:26
RT @kvnmcl: Basic skill set-keyboard, Mouse, trackpad, OS, word
processing, application tools all from an early age #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:26
@ianaddison I see non-specialists teach skills in 'not best way', simply
because 'we've always done it like that' #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:26
@LisaHandley Why? Seems random! #ukedchat
colport 20:26
@Laura_987 good point Laura, chn need to know how to validate net
research and not just believe everything, just like other media
squiggle7 20:26 #ukedchat
@Mr_Thorne: RT @ictprimarysch: #ukedchat could swap wth a
colleague and you teach your specialism? - then the teachers will never
carolrainbow 20:26 catch up
Our school makes sure everyone has an ICT-based performance
management target to ensure that they continue to improve their skills
@didactylos good point about soft skills. Yet govt and SLT look for
measurable skills, so often teachers focus on wrong thing #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:27
@ICTtower totally, luckily I have teachers who are keen, but have
never know how to do it. I'm the 'how' to get them going #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:27
RT @janwebb21: @DeputyMitchell real, robust, relevant is good!!!!!!
#ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:27
RT @squiggle7: @philallman1 but SATs shouldn't be the be all and end
all in deciding what we teach #ukedchat< I didn't say that did I ?!!!!!
philallman1 20:27
@janwebb21 it lets you learn together with the children.- nothing
better than collaboration!! #ukedchat
SkoorBttaM 20:27
@squiggle7 Yeah you're right about not just internet. Need to make an
informed decision about validity #ukedchat
Laura_987 20:27
RT @squiggle7: RT @kvnmcl: @ictprimarysch Tchrs with less skills
MUST dev their skills. O'wise they will find their class will leave them
Crosbiei 20:27 behind #ukedchat
@Mr_Thorne absolutely but how far 'do' we go before we mirror a
secondary sch if we keep swapping specialisms #ukedchat
ictprimarysch 20:27
@didactylos I know what you read ;-) - is that a social competence?
#ukedchat
JaneDavis13 20:27
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RT @skoorBttaM Im a big fan of using pupils themselves to do the
teaching, as they often know more about ICT than the teachers!
didactylos 20:27 #ukedchat
@Mr_Thorne @ictprimarysch But shouldn't all teachers be aiming for
these skills in this day and age? #ukedchat
Crosbiei 20:27
@ICTtower @ianaddison 'Weve always done it like that' does my head
in! We all need to move ourselves&learnin forward all the time.
@philallman1 but referring to handwriting only being worth 3 marks
implies it #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:28
@SkoorBttaM it's good for kids to see us learning - models skills of
learning and problem solving #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:28
@ianaddison #ukedchat agree my teachers were blown away by the
help videos
ictprimarysch 20:28
@didactylos Some staff *may* not want to learn as don't see it's their
job, just want to get work done but with poor skills #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:28
@Ideas_Factory only place CDROM will have in my school is as part of
ICT history lesson I think, all our software is networked #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:28
@ianaddison but if they are resistant to ICT can you get them to invest
their own time in learning? #ukedchat
@kvnmcl @islayian #ukedchat indeed -here's my
linkshttp://bit.ly/cKuuxJ
Catriona_O 20:28
RT @kvnmcl: @ictprimarysch Teachers with less skills MUST develop
their skills. Otherwise they will find their class will leave them behind
Ideas_Factory 20:28 #ukedchat
@curricadvocate @ianaddison Have u tried to do that? I find teachers
are very protective of their time! #ukedchat
Crosbiei 20:29
RT @squiggle7: @philallman1 but referring to handwriting only being
worth 3 marks implies it #ukedchat that was ian not me?! not guilty!
philallman1 20:29
@chrismayoh does the PM target focus on pedagogy or skills?
#ukedchat
@ICTtower #ukedchat see specialists teach in the wrong way because
they have always done it like that - sorry
didactylos 20:29
what age is the ICT Curriculum caters to? what age do we start?
#ukedchat
Ariellah 20:29
@ictprimarysch ICT was an add on subject 11 years ago. Now it should
be integrated, a redesigned curriculum would help #ukedchat
kvnmcl 20:29
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RT @carolrainbow: Digital literacies continued - e-safety, filtering,
networking literacies - all need to be taught #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:29
@ForesterJo will do a first month blog post this weekend #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:29
@Laura_987 #ukedchat Yes agreed-The 'truth' of information must be
taught-most pupils seem to think that if it's on a screeb it's true.
Ideas_Factory 20:29
RT @Crosbiei: #ukedchat Why should any subject be taught discretely
when they are all intertwined in adult life?
PCampbell91 20:29
Many schools will have no choice but to take ICT out of Suite
(flips/mics/cameras/etc) as many don't have/will not have the money
@Crosbiei beware - they often know the how to do something, but not
always the why it works like that.... #ukedchat
fcbsd 20:29
@dawnhallybone Good point about wide use of ICT. Other things often
forgotten #ukedchat
Laura_987 20:29
@curricadvocate you have to be gentle, show them the possibilities,
be there to help them and guide them #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:29
I think students should be able to work independently, actually
applying their ICT skills to given situations with e-confidence #ukedchat
ICTEvangelist 20:30
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat 'soft skills' are actually the skills that make
for 'success in life - so maybe 'success skills?' I like that!
Ideas_Factory 20:30
#ukedchat bias declaration - I'm not convinced about the reality of
subject specialism anway
didactylos 20:30
@DeputyMitchell In some schools ICT suite for 1st 6 weeks then PCs to
classroom when skills in place. #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:30
RT @mynictle: blogs, should be written in to a policy somehow,
guidelines etc #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:30
@Ariellah the curriculum in our school starts at foundation stage - age
4 - age appropriate and relevant learning opportunities #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:30
@Mr_Thorne #ukedchat - my guess is that she only thinks she is not
ICT literate - she could be given small tasks for instant success
carolrainbow 20:30
â€œ@chrismayoh: Our school makes sure everyone has an ICT-based
performance management target >>> eCPD a good framework to
MoodleMcKean 20:30 follow #ukedchat
RT @janwebb21: @SkoorBttaM it's good for kids to see us learning -
models skills of learning and problem solving #ukedchat
Crosbiei 20:30
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RT @Crosbiei: #ukedchat Why should any subject be taught discretely
when they are all intertwined in adult life? not a daily mail reader :)
philallman1 20:30
@curricadvocate @ianaddison #ukedchat as @ianaddison advised me
show the how successful it can be and they will follow!
ictprimarysch 20:30
@philallman1 ok sorry, hard to keep up! #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:30
@Crosbiei Agree! #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:30
RT @ICTtower: @didactylos Some staff *may* not want to learn as
don't see it's their job, just want to get work done but with poor skills
@ianaddison #ukedchat I have just said same to SMT unless we have
site license then very limited use - need all chdn to be able to access
ForesterJo 20:30
RT @Ideas_Factory: @Laura_987 #ukedchat Yes agreed-The 'truth' of
information must be taught-most pupils seem to think that if it's on a
curricadvocate 20:30 screeb it's true.
RT @ColinTGraham: Scheduled 3: Be able to locate and download a
variety of open-source applications to PCs, mobile phones and hand-
Ideas_Factory 20:30 held devices #ukedchat
@Crosbiei i teach 1 class, they have a topic book from 6 yrs ago, tchr
said 'i'd like it done like that pls' #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:30
@ianaddison #ukedchat agree, and have done this with success. devil's
advocate - what if they still don't budge?
OhLottie 20:31 different #ukedchat
@chrismayoh Does ICT has to start and end with computers? what
about mobile phones? i-pods? e-readers? #ukedchat
Ariellah 20:31
@ForesterJo also important to give staff a copy to let them play at
home if they want to, that's working well at our sch #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:31
RT @squiggle7: @philallman1 ok sorry, hard to keep up! #ukedchat I
RT'd him - though if I had my way I'd prioritise typing over handwriting!
philallman1 20:31
@didactylos That is true too! We need teachers who are prepared to
offer/show better ways of using tools to communicate #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:31
@ianaddison #ukedchat look forward to reading it - reminds me I have
about 4 to write!!!
ForesterJo 20:31
@Mr_Thorne #ukedchat - things she could do with a class to build
confidence and strategies for coping - let he pupils cope - they will!
carolrainbow 20:31
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@philallman1 Cud be why so many chn are being put off taking ICT
further- they're used to using a range of tools- not in skwl tho
@Crosbiei yup, showed 3 teachers 2Create a Super Story after school
today, they loved it. #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:31
@Ideas_Factory No harm in reading other things but they need to
know what is valid. #ukedchat
Laura_987 20:31
@curricadvocate stuff 'em, work on the teachers that do care and
focus on the children in your class. Head's problem really? #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:32
#ukedchat open horizons with collborative technologies
cloud_burst 20:32
much easier for all if guidelines came from the top so they were the
same for us all to follow instead of doing own thing #ukedchat
mynictle 20:32
RT @kvnmcl: @ictprimarysch ICT was an add on subject 11 years ago.
Now it should be integrated, a redesigned curriculum would help
@philallman1 I'm making sure it's at least 50/50 from now on.
#ukedchat
squiggle7 20:32
RT RT @kvnmcl: Tchrs with less skills MUST dev their skills. O'wise
they will find their class will leave them behind #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:32
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat bias declaration - I'm not convinced about
the reality of subject specialism anway< me too!
philallman1 20:32
@paulholio Join in with #ukedchat?
Laura_987 20:32
@curricadvocate Focus on creating richer learning experiences for
pupils by learning and implementing new skills #ukedchat
chrismayoh 20:32
RT @Ariellah: Does ICT has to start and end with computers? what
about mobile phones? i-pods? e-readers? > must include all #ukedchat
MoodleMcKean 20:33
RT @ICTEvangelist: I think students should be able to work
independently, actually applying their ICT skills to given situations with
Crosbiei 20:33 e-confidence #ukedchat
#ukedchat - I'm not rlly getting it at all 2nite. Is it not a bit absurd 2
have a fixed curric4 a skill set so fast moving & learner driven?
Catriona_O 20:33
@ianaddison #ukedchat might be an idea - first staff training at mine 4
people tomorrow maybe 1 "if anyone else is going".........
ForesterJo 20:33
@Ariellah Absolutely! ICT definitely does not just mean computers. At
all. End of! #ukedchat
chrismayoh 20:33
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RT @janwebb21: @SkoorBttaM it's good for kids to see us learning -
models skills of learning and problem solving #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:33
@ICTtower well I'd be pointing the to the door then, getting quite hard
edged about this in my old age! #ukedchat
didactylos 20:33
A new ICT Curriculum online with links to 'how to' vid/examples,
explanations, definitions, podcasts, GOT TO BE LUDITTE FRIENDLY!
The ACM's model curric for CS is at http://is.gd/fCKsk - interested to
hear what place you'd all give programming in ICT education
@chrismayoh There's so much more to ICT than just the computers!
Just So much more #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:34
RT @Catriona_O: #ukedchat - Is it not a bit absurd 2 have a fixed
curric4 a skill set so fast moving & learner driven?< Yes!
philallman1 20:34
@ianaddison i do agree. i'm speaking as a HT! we don't have all the
answers!! #ukedchat (although have used pressure from parents to
curricadvocate 20:34 push)
@Crosbiei it is our job as ICT tchng profs 2 lead the way with ICT use
and skills & inspire other educators in their use of ICT #ukedchat
ICTEvangelist 20:34
@ForesterJo do ad-hoc training, tonight I'm showing Boris how to use
2DIY, anyone else wanna come? I have biscuits #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:34
RT @CPDScotsman: #cpdqt John Connell launches CPD Question Time
on 21st Oct http://is.gd/fCIcN and also on http://bit.ly/cpdqt
stevebunce 20:34 #ukedchat
@kvnmcl Rose curriculum WAS redesigned and looked FAB for ICT. Ah
the irony/ #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:34
RT @Catriona_O: #ukedchat - I'm not rlly getting it at all 2nite. Is it not
a bit absurd 2 have a fixed curric4 a skill set so fast moving & learner
McLaughlin_Andy 20:34 driven?
@mynictle from the top? Do you mean the #condem Gove-rnment?
No chance! #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:34
@janwebb21 my point being is that skills in the curriculum dependent
on when u start the ICT and ensure progression #ukedchat
Ariellah 20:34
RT @kvnmcl: @ictprimarysch ICT was an add on subject 11 years ago.
Now it should be integrated, a redesigned curriculum would help
@ICTtower #ukedchat I'd not want to see a doctor who used that
excuse..... #devilsadvocte
didactylos 20:34
@Crosbiei: #ukedchat Enjoy XC teaching but... each subject offers a
distinct way of knowing the world e.g. empirically via Science.
ParsleyBill 20:35
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@ICTEvangelist #ukedchat yes but people have to want to change and
keep up with the times too!
ForesterJo 20:35
@carolrainbow i just remember my school teachers not knowing which
way to insert a VHS cassette #ukedchat
Mr_Thorne 20:35
RT @chrismayoh: @curricadvocate Focus on creating richer learning
experiences for pupils by learning and implementing new skills
@DeputyMitchell #ukedchat agree, the easier we make a new curric
for teachers e.g. offering all round support will ensure success
ictprimarysch 20:35
@mynictle not if it was from Mr Gove..... #ukedchat
didactylos 20:35
RT @ianaddison: @curricadvocate stuff 'em, work on the teachers that
do care and focus on the children in your class. Head's problem really?
RT @Catriona_O: #ukedchat - I'm not rlly getting it at all 2nite. Is it not
a bit absurd 2 have a fixed curric4 a skill set so fast moving
cleverfiend 20:35
@didactylos #ukedchat The 'curriculum' must be sufficiently broad so
that skills apply across a wide range of subjects
Ideas_Factory 20:35
Will ICT mean something else in 5 years time? What future areas might
a new curriculum need to address? #ukedchat
@simonhaughton our website has been built with home access in
mind, links to as much as possible, plus how-to for parent and ch
@Ariellah #ukedchat our curriculum is designed to be a spiral
curriculum wh allows skills to be built on as pupils progress through
janwebb21 20:35 school
Scheduled 4: Be able to create a blog entry and/or design a simple
webpage with links to other pages or sites #ukedchat
ColinTGraham 20:35
@Mr_Thorne but you would have been delighted to show them :-) -
Same is true today! #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:36
RT @Mr_Thorne: @carolrainbow i just remember my school teachers
not knowing which way to insert a VHS cassette #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:36
#ukedchat - the layout of an ICT space very important, much prefer
laptops as mobile. ICT classrooms haven't really changed over 20 yrs.
Cgeo28 20:36
RT @frogphilp: @kvnmcl Rose curriculum WAS redesigned and looked
FAB for ICT. Ah the irony/ #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 20:36
#ukedchat Those who say "not my job" to learn about or teach
ICT/web 2.0 must be challenged. More responsible unions would take
esoldaveglasgow 20:36 the lead.
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@Ideas_Factory or alternatively the activities learners undergo are
sufficiently broad they acquire success skills for life? #ukedchat
didactylos 20:36
RT @MoodleMcKean: RT @Ariellah: Does ICT has to start and end with
computers? what about mobile phones? i-pods? e-readers? > must
Ideas_Factory 20:36 include all #ukedchat
@DeputyMitchell Questions like how to cope with embedded
processors and headsup displays embedded into the eye. #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:36
@Ariellah starting point is important but opportunities to revisit,
consolidate, develop and explore even more important #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:36
@Catriona_O Agree - a set of literacies is needed so that pupils know
how to cope with lots of aspects - software the least #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:36
@Catriona_O difficult one, many teachers prefer a fixed curriculum
easier to follow, others don't. But outcomes matter most #ukedchat
kvnmcl 20:36
@curricadvocate it'll happen though, kids in my class probably had
crap art and music skills, diff teachers have diff strengths? #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:36
RT @ianaddison: @ForesterJo also important to give staff a copy to let
them play at home if they want to #ukedchat <- got to be done :)
bevevans22 20:36
RT @janwebb21: starting point is important but opportunities to
revisit, consolidate, develop & explore more important #ukedchat <-
bevevans22 20:37 true
@bevevans22 do you always check licenses though? Or is it assumed
tchrs can use at home? #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:37
@DeputyMitchell #ukedchat look at trends in science fiction? it
amazes me how many 'visionary' things in sci-fi have influenced
curricadvocate 20:37 devices now
@ForesterJo #ukedchat you're right and you can't bring every one
along for the journey - you can only be so inspirational!
ICTEvangelist 20:37
We are preparing learners for jobs that don't exist yet using technology
which maybe outdated by the time they use it in work #ukedchat
MoodleMcKean 20:37
@janwebb21 Yep. I'd much rather be a learner than an instructor!
#ukedchat
SkoorBttaM 20:37
RT @didactylos: or alternatively the activities learners undergo are
sufficiently broad they acquire success skills for life? #ukedchat Yes!
Ideas_Factory 20:37
#ukedchat at some point we stopped teaching how to cut the quill pen
and keep it sharp....
didactylos 20:37
@didactylos Lol! Agree there, curing with leeches! #ukedchat
#devilsadvocte
ICTtower 20:37
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@ianaddison #ukedchat hard when you only work 3 days, one night
taken with staff meeting! Am still trying though........
ForesterJo 20:37
#ukedchat giving students access to blended learning
cloud_burst 20:37
RT @frogphilp: @kvnmcl Rose curriculum WAS redesigned and looked
FAB for ICT. Ah the irony/ #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:37
@ICTEvangelist #ukedchat still working on that........
ForesterJo 20:38
Another vital ICT skill is REFLECTION. Children need to learn to keep
learning logs to keep tracks of mistakes and opportunites. #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:38
#ukedchat by the time you wrote and published an IT curriculum it
would be out of date. School ethos and teacher skills the way
trees2066 20:38 forward...
ICT is an add on subject - we should teach Computer Science - probably
the most important STEM subject for now and the future :~) #ukedchat
fcbsd 20:38
RT @ForesterJo: @ICTEvangelist #ukedchat yes but people have to
want to change and keep up with the times too!
SkoorBttaM 20:38
@frogphilp @kvnmcl #ukedchat If you read through the NC Pos for ICT
there is loads of scope - think new software - it is all there :-)
carolrainbow 20:38
@ICTtower exactly. Teachers get away with not keeping up to date yet
their effect can be as dramatic as bad doctoring #ukedchat
didactylos 20:38
@kvnmcl #ukedchat - OK - agree but LEARNERS matter most and they
probably and always will know more than teachers here
Catriona_O 20:38
RT @cloud_burst: #ukedchat giving students access to blended
learning< like a mixed fruit smoothie all of their 5 a day in one go!
philallman1 20:38
@ICTEvangelist I agree. But we can't force others to follow our leads,
and they often cite lack of time for resisting change. #ukedchat
Crosbiei 20:38
@skoorBttaM #ukedchat I'm ok with learning!
janwebb21 20:38
RT @MoodleMcKean: We are preparing learners for jobs that don't
exist yet using technology which maybe outdated by the time they use
Ideas_Factory 20:38 it in work #ukedchat
@ianaddison We do check. And some things are tools they need to
investigate/play with over the web (like prezi or purplemash)
bevevans22 20:39 #ukedchat
RT @MoodleMcKean: We are preparing learners for jobs that don't
exist yet using technology which outdated by the time they use #it
Ariellah 20:39 ukedchat
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I truly believe that a completely open approach would be best but
that's just personal, it wouldn't work due to limited skills #ukedchat
kvnmcl 20:39
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat at some point we stopped teaching how to
cut the quill pen and keep it sharp....
TheHeadsOffice 20:39
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat at some point we stopped teaching how to
cut the quill pen and keep it sharp....
ICTtower 20:39
Ask employers what skills they need. Intresting ones like games
developers and actuaries ?!? What do they want? #ukedchat
bartoneducation 20:39
@bevevans22 #ukedchat amen Bev - ICT is about embracing any
technology 2 solve the many problems we are faced with-it shd make
ICTEvangelist 20:39 life easier!
RT @esoldaveglasgow: #ukedchat Those who say "not my job" to learn
about or teach ICT/web 2.0 must be challenged.
ICTtower 20:39
about or teach ICT/web 2.0 must be challenged. More responsible
trees2066 20:39 unions would take the lead.
RT @Catriona_O: #ukedchat - there seems to be 2 chats going on here -
one on tech and one on learning principles< not mutually exclusive
philallman1 20:40 IMO
@frogphilp #ukedchat which is of course why so many school
ban/block anything that is a blog!!! #theyjustdontgetit
didactylos 20:40
@Catriona_O completely agree, girl in my class did a presentation for
class, she taught herself #ukedchat
kvnmcl 20:40
@carolrainbow Agree - big disaster is to completely throughout the
old. Heard of schools that have done that then failed Ofsted #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:40
@frogphilp @kvnmcl #ukedchat Did a blog post when we lost the new
curriculum http://tinyurl.com/378n57c about how I saw the ICT 2000
carolrainbow 20:40 version
@carolrainbow i'm ok with ICT, |& i like that the children see me as an
expert in many fields but i accept i'm still learning :) #ukedchat
Mr_Thorne 20:40
Does 'Joe Pubilc' really understand much of the ground breaking work
that it is being done?# #ukedchat
@trees2066 i disagree, you would have to amend a curriculum from
time to time, but the core skills would be fairly standard #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:40
@ForesterJo @SkoorBttaM #ukedchat it would be all too easy to write
off those who r slower to change and adapt - fear factor can b
janwebb21 20:40 overcome
#ukedchat - there seems to be 2 chats going on here - one on tech and
one on learning principles
Catriona_O 20:40
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RT @didactylos: @ICTtower exactly. Teachers get away with not
keeping up to date yet their effect can be as dramatic as bad doctoring
@Laura_987 I'm listening in to #ukedchat, but I am positive I should be
doing something in particular...
paulholio 20:40
RT @bartoneducation: Ask employers what skills they need >>> will
need in the future thinking 5-10 yrs ahead ..difficult to do #ukedchat
MoodleMcKean 20:41
@paulholio Surly not! Thurs, 8-9 = #ukedchat! simples!
RT @didactylos: @ICTtower exactly. Teachers get away with not
keeping up to date yet their effect can be as dramatic as bad doctoring
RT @Catriona_O: #ukedchat - there seems to be 2 chats going on here -
one on tech and one on learning principles
islayian 20:41
@ianaddison #ukedchat - sorry didn't mean to offend any musicians.
just jealous of your talents!!!
#ukedchat I'll tell that to my two littlies!!!!!!! don't have a work life
balance as it is.....
ForesterJo 20:41
RT @ianaddison i disagree, you would have to amend a curriculum
from time to time, but the core skills would be fairly standard
@SkoorBttaM @didactylos @icttower we are empowering pupils to
share their skills to other pupils, ict champs #ukedchat
ictprimarysch 20:41
@fcbsd I agree to a certain extent #ukedchat - i think there's a place
for both, hence we teach both
ICTEvangelist 20:41
@MoodleMcKean That sounds like a line from 'ShiftHappens'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMcfrLYDm2U If you havent seen
Crosbiei 20:41 it. #ukedchat
@ianaddison #ukedchat that is a fair point! mine never got good music
teaching! the thing is not many will lose their way for lack of music?
@curricadvocate i only have ict talents! very little else :-) #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:42
From this discussion, there seems a huge difference in pupils ICT
learning experiences from Key Stages to different schools :-( #ukedchat
colport 20:42
@Catriona_O disagree that learners will always know more than
teachers. They may think they know, which is an interesting start
frogphilp 20:42 #ukedchat
Agreed! with @fcbsd: we should teach Computer Science - probably
the most important STEM subject for now and the future :~) #ukedchat
Ariellah 20:42
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@TheHeadsOffice joe public might not know/care about all this, but
my children and parents will do and that's all that matters #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:42
@frogphilp And they need to learn that making mistakes and taking
responsible risks are part of it too #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:42
RT @Mr_Thorne: @carolrainbow i'm ok with ICT, |& i like that the
children see me as an expert in many fields but i accept i'm still
Crosbiei 20:42 learning :) #ukedchat
#ukedchat accessability - technology to help with identified needs -
equality and diversity
cloud_burst 20:42
@frogphilp @Catriona_O I wouldnt say they always know more, but
they quite often do! #ukedchat
Crosbiei 20:43
@kvnmcl my son set up cloud system ona bashed old laptop still dont
know wht its & he was 8 at the time. i'll nevr B ahead of
Catriona_O 20:43 him!#ukedchat
Should schools emply ICT co-ord as the PPA cover teacher, teaching ICT
skills to most pupils in school? #ukedchat
colport 20:43
@bevevans22 Yes - so many learners, teachers, administrations fearful
of mistakes... I wonder why? #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:43
@bevevans22 AGREE!! If they are not making mistakes then they are
not being challenged! #ukedchat
@janwebb21 Absolutely! Not jst the fear factor tho, its a whole new
world!! Live problem solving- too risky for some #ukedchat
SkoorBttaM 20:43
@Mr_Thorne yes really just pointing out that pupils will actually enjoy
supporting a teacher who lacks confidence if given the opp #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:43
RT @bevevans22: @frogphilp And they need to learn that making
mistakes and taking responsible risks are part of it too #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:43
@janwebb21 #ukedchat I'm not writing them off am trying to show
them sometimes ICT saves time / can really motivate chdn etc can be
ForesterJo 20:43 hard
@ForesterJo didn't mean to imply you were! takes time to change
mindsets/educational values/attitudes #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:44
@colport #ukedchat - why not all pupils?
Catriona_O 20:44
just arrived #ukedchat what up people ? i know im late
hairysporan 20:44
@ictprimarysch Definitely! I have an ICT team (of chn) who problem
solve for other chn and staff!! #ukedchat
SkoorBttaM 20:44
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@JfB57 the top bods don't care about ICT!! #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:44
software & web dev' will always be transferable, desired skills, even
when the dev' languages taught to the chldrn become extinct
BryanPlumb 20:44 #ukedchat
@colport #ukedchat I guess that's the problem with such an archaic
curric, some schools and teachers can get away with poor ict
ictprimarysch 20:44 experience
@Ariellah when and to who? #ukedchat
didactylos 20:44
#ukedchat For the final 3rd Let's talk 'Capability'
Skills+Thinking=Capability.Technical+Cognitive=Capability
Ideas_Factory 20:44
Going to have to duck out of #ukedchat - enjoy the last 15 minutes
folks :)
chrismayoh 20:44
Anyone remember that great paper 'The Sabre-Tooth Curriculum'?
Almost as significant for us years ago as "Shift Happens" is now.
geraldhaigh1 20:44 #ukedchat
@DeputyMitchell #ukedchat actually, it should be real, relevant robust
and include responsible risk taking!
janwebb21 20:44
@ianaddison Possibly but we need to get them to care for it to be
embedded! #ukedchat
@carolrainbow i agree Carol. Children becoming the experts is
essential! :) #ukedchat
Mr_Thorne 20:45
@Crosbiei I admit 3 years ago one of my year 6 taught me HTML and
CSS. That was an interesting experience for me #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:45
RT @bevevans22: @colport That seems to be a trend but whether it's
the right way forward is another thing...#ukedchat <soft option IMO
philallman1 20:45
@colport #ukedchat gd question colport, but students & parents want
a qualification @ the end of it/how is that achieved if it's random PPA?
ICTEvangelist 20:45
#ukedchat teachers saying no to ICT are like doctors refusing to use x-
ray machines or shops who don't accept cards. Unlikely to survive!
trees2066 20:45
#ukedchat Capability EG Cut & paste+Sequencing info=Communicating
effectively
Ideas_Factory 20:45
@skoorBttaM takes a change of mindset/educational values/attitudes -
which takes time #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:45
@colport maybe, but why not a PE PPA cover to make sure children
get proper PE teaching to help solve obesity? #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:45
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@colport Seen that done but does it mean class teachers have less
confidence to use ICT across the curriculum? #ukedchat
Laura_987 20:45
@colport That seems to be a trend but whether it's the right way
forward is another thing...#ukedchat
bevevans22 20:45
Scheduled 5: Be able to use two or three search engines and critically
assess the URLs listed on the first pages of the results #ukedchat
ColinTGraham 20:45
We are lucky in our dept to have staff who are specialists in diff areas,
mine is digital media #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:45
@philallman1 No, it doesn't surprise ..but it does concern me! It's an
inequality within edu system. Imagine differences in Maths! #ukedchat
colport 20:45
@colport then you can't embed anything and it becomes even more
detached #ukedchat
KnikiDavies 20:45
#ukedchat Pupils should be able to Develop ideas iteratively
Ideas_Factory 20:46
@colport same could be said of MFL, PE, art, music... #ukedchat
LisaHandley 20:46
#ukedchat we need to solve the digital divide so everyone has the
same opportunities
cloud_burst 20:46
@frogphilp @Crosbiei I say that as a total tech novice. But don't think
I'm unusual in teaching #ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:46
Late to #ukedchat One thing that really frustrates me is schools saying
priority is eg writing so they have not time to develop ict!
katie_hague 20:46
RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Capability EG Cut & paste+Sequencing
info=Communicating effectively
janwebb21 20:46
the main problem i find with ICT is the lack of whole staff support for
new tech...so many sceptics out there #ukedchat
hairysporan 20:46
@trees2066 problem is too many of them do survive. #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:46
Except for your good results! RT @ianaddison: @JfB57 the top bods
don't care about ICT!! #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:46
#ukedchat Pupils should be able to Hypothesis-ask what if?questions
Ideas_Factory 20:46
@Ideas_Factory #ukedchat in terms of those capabilities - good
starting point. develop a progression that leads towards indpndnce in
curricadvocate 20:46 each?
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@ianaddison if they did harnessing technology wouldn't have been cut
by so much! #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:46
Briefly, Sabre-Tooth Curric was satire about a civilisation still teaching
how to deal with ST Tigers long after they'd died out. #ukedchat
geraldhaigh1 20:46
#ukedchat, @colport no, as this could take away the cross-curricular
element of ICT. It has the potential to
mattlovegrove 20:46
@squiggle7 @trees2066 don't we have a professional responsibility to
support less confident colleagues and to be patient with them
@katie_hague yet ICT can be a great way to engage reluctant writers.
#ukedchat
squiggle7 20:47
@ianaddison @colport we have pe and music ppa cover #UKedchat
and I do RE in exchange for PE and French
KnikiDavies 20:47
@philallman1 I used to teach ICT with the class teacher in the room as
support (and to pick up skills and ideas) - better I think #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:47
@TheHeadsOffice until ICT becomes free/cheaper, this government
will never give a... #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:47
Words not in the ICT national curriculum (PoS, 1999) KS2: 'computer'
'program' 'communication'. KS1: 'internet' 'web' 'computer'. #ukedchat
mberry 20:47
@colport I would say not, cos that would just give other teachers
another excuse not to develop these skills themselves. #ukedchat
Crosbiei 20:47
Wow - what a response. I am not in support of ICT Co-ord PPA cover as
less skill opp for staff. I think the issue is ICT CPD! #ukedchat
colport 20:47
@mberry unbelievable that communication wasn't mentioned in KS2
even when it formed part of the subject name #ukedchat
kvnmcl 20:48
@colport #ukedchat concept of Learned Helplessness - before staff can
do any ICT they need training..... needs challenging
didactylos 20:48
RT @colport: Wow - what a response. I am not in support of ICT Co-ord
PPA cover as less skill opp for staff. I think the issue is ICT CPD!
RT @mberry: Words not in the ICT NC (PoS, 1999) KS2: 'computer'
'program' 'communication'. KS1: 'internet' 'web' 'computer'. #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:48
@colport IMO this makes the gap even wider than teachers who use
tech and those that don't! All staff need to take on board #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:48
RT @frogphilp: @Crosbiei I admit 3 years ago one of my year 6 taught
me HTML and CSS. That was an interesting experience for me
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@didactylos Perhaps as part of the ICT Curriculum? progression could
provide opportunities for Computer Science professions at HS
Ariellah 20:48 #ukedchat
@ianaddison #ukedchat rat's behind!
ICTEvangelist 20:48
@mberry Worryingly little reference from this gov either! #ukedchat
@philallman1 not mutually exclusive of course but there has been very
little crossover between the 2 tonight #ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:48
RT @ColinTGraham: Scheduled 5: Be able to use two or three search
engines and critically assess the URLs listed on the first pages of the
Ideas_Factory 20:48 results #ukedchat
@janwebb21 of course we do, but still get lots that just won't change
&are allowed to get away with not meeting prof. standards #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:49
@Catriona_O #ukedchat I think there's been plenty of cross-over. Most
are talking ICT when mention learning-it applies to all
Ideas_Factory 20:49
RT @trees2066: #ukedchat teachers saying no to ICT are like doctors
refusing to use x-ray machines or shops who don't accept cards.
Crosbiei 20:49 Unlikely to survive!
#ukedchat i do find maths hard to wedge into an integrated curriculum
Mr_Thorne 20:49
@ianaddison Interestingly, every time I see PoS I see a diff acronym in
my head...! #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:49
@frogphilp I get more excited about cdn teachin me things than I do
bout teachin them.Love it when kids take initiative to learn. #ukedchat
Crosbiei 20:49
#ukedchat our challenge this year is that we have 4 new teachers they
need training on our software, as we're fairly open-source. Takes time
mattlovegrove 20:49
@ForesterJo #ukedchat I think the time it takes is a real shock - esp
when I hadn't been responsible for implementing change before!
janwebb21 20:49
@colport I agree. I now cover 2 teachers PPA time. Not a huge change
but means they don't pick up the skills to build on in class #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:49
RT @didactylos: @colport #ukedchat concept of Learned Helplessness -
before staff can do any ICT they need training..... needs challenging<Y
philallman1 20:50
@Ideas_Factory @colport Where do we fit this in?#ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:50
@trees2066 the content planned needs to be adaptable so it fits with
any subject, i've already started planning one for my school #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:50
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@janwebb21 @squiggle7 @trees2066 #ukedchat and if not a direct prf
resp then a moral responsibility for equality of prov for the pupils
@janwebb21 Support yes, be patient...? Don't push it! ;-) #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:50
about or teach ICT/web 2.0 must be challenged. More responsible
digitalspaces 20:50 unions would take the lead.
@squiggle7 Absolutely! And help improve reading and maths - ict can
really motivate children and remove pressure from children. #ukedchat
katie_hague 20:50
@didactylos #ukedchat - we face the same problem of 'learned
helplessness' with students!
ICTEvangelist 20:50
@Ideas_Factory @colport #ukedchat ict cps in its many forms using
online facilities as well
ictprimarysch 20:50
#ukedchat Because of state of curriculum I don't think that teachers do
need to teach using ICT-that's thr prob-the curric not the teachers!
Ideas_Factory 20:51
RT @ForesterJo: @Ideas_Factory @colport Where do we fit this
in?#ukedchat < within the current curriculum not an add on - just
philallman1 20:51 doesn't work!
#ukedchat a '1 hour a week' subject. This is what we want to avoid.
How are people planning ICT? Is anyone still using QCA?
mattlovegrove 20:51
in my area schools main prob is the access to new technologies
through LA server just far to slow la hate schools contrl of IT #ukedchat
hairysporan 20:51
RT @katie_hague: #ukedchat One thing that really frustrates me is schs
saying priority is eg writing so they have not time to develop ict!
ianaddison 20:51
@mberry Curriculum 2000 was okay though - there is loads of scope
there to include all web 2.0 tolls etc #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:51
I think the mini teachmeet approach we've adopted in staff meetings
(re: sharing ICTideas) has been positive & has helped staff #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:51
@squiggle7 @katie_hague #ukedchat absolutely - anyone following
@DeputyMitchell 's class blogs - Liams writing has been an inspiaration
@ForesterJo #ukedchat as an implementer of change we need to learn
range of skills and understanding of the change process itself
janwebb21 20:51
RT @Crosbiei: @frogphilp I get more excited about cdn teachin me
things than I do bout teachin them.Love it when kids take initiative to
SkoorBttaM 20:51 learn. #ukedchat
#ukedchat, having said that, I teach Y2, but for an hour a week teach 1
Y6 class ICT. It's working well, but I can feel that ICT is becoming
mattlovegrove 20:51
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I want to see tech being used as naturally as a pencil in class.
#ukedchat
kvnmcl 20:51
@Ariellah its the age old debate about specialism versus generalism
and when to specialise and what gets lost when you do #ukedchat
didactylos 20:51
RT @ICTtower: @ianaddison Interestingly, every time I see PoS I see a
diff acronym in my head...! #ukedchat
Crosbiei 20:51
@bevevans22 sounds great! #ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:52
@janwebb21 Of course, just jesting! #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:52
@curricadvocate absolutely - but we also need to be sensitive to
colleagues #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:52
@digitalspaces @esoldaveglasgow #ukedchat I too am sick of teachers
who undermine a child's education because they have 2 learn a new
familysimpson 20:52 pkg
@janwebb21 @ForesterJo #ukedchat but as well as understanding ch
man. processes we must have a clear vision. as a nation do we have
curricadvocate 20:52 this?
@mattlovegrove my school were pre-QCA before I turned up. Betsi the
tudor dog for 7wks in Y4, rock on... http://bit.ly/ctBSdq #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:52
@janwebb21 #ukedchat trying to drive forward Forest School and ICT -
big challenge but firmly believe in both (and can be easliy linked)
ForesterJo 20:52
@curricadvocate surely it would fall into the standard about having an
uptodate knowledge? #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:52
@Crosbiei Yes - I do a 'teach a concept' week 1 week in 4 - children
have to teach something they've learnt. #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:52
@kvnmcl #ukedchat a pencil is technology, just a very old kind
ICTEvangelist 20:52
Having major tech problems tonight for #ukedchat
colport 20:52
@ICTtower patience? yes, adult learners need as much if not more
than children learners!!!!!! #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:52
EXACTLY! RT @kvnmcl: I want to see tech being used as naturally as a
pencil in class. #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:52
@Ideas_Factory OK - I just don't want to get too hung up on the
technics of tech, or tech as discreet within curric #ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:52
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RT @kvnmcl: I want to see tech being used as naturally as a pencil in
class. #ukedchat
Ariellah 20:52
RT @ictprimarysch: @kvnmcl ict resources need to be selected within
the classroom, chn could share understanding thru paper, mike,
Ideas_Factory 20:53 podcast, tweet etc #ukedchat
@squiggle7 #ukedchat - agree, as long as we have clear picture of what
the up to date knwldge is in a rapidly changing world. who decides?
RT @colport: Having major tech problems tonight for #ukedchat Doh!
ICTEvangelist 20:53
RT @ICTEvangelist: @didactylos #ukedchat - we face the same
problem of 'learned helplessness' with students! - Also in maths,
carolrainbow 20:53 science, mfl..
@kvnmcl it needs to work as simply as a pencil then! #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:53
@bevevans22 And do they have major ICT skills challenges
themselves? #ukedchat
colport 20:53
@kvnmcl Yes, the irony had struck me too. 'technology' doesn't make
it in to the PoS either. To be fair 'communicate' does. #ukedchat
mberry 20:53
@Catriona_O #ukedchat Of course-most of ICT is not tech anyway-just
creative ways to use it!
Ideas_Factory 20:53
@DeputyMitchell When I was on vle team, some schools wouldn't let
me in due to this, when wikis/ forums would have had huge
katie_hague 20:53 impact.#ukedchat
RT @ICTtower: EXACTLY! RT @kvnmcl: I want to see tech being used as
naturally as a pencil in class. #ukedchat
SkoorBttaM 20:53
@mattlovegrove Learned Helplessness http://ow.ly/2MxCc #ukedchat
didactylos 20:53
RT @kvnmcl: I want to see tech being used as naturally as a pencil in
class. #ukedchat <-we're getting there - resources need to b available
bevevans22 20:53
@ICTtower lol! #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:53
@bevevans22 agree - we do mini-share thing at start of CPD - it's Dead
Good! #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:53
@kvnmcl ict resources need to be selected within the classroom, chn
could share understanding thru paper, mike, podcast, tweet etc
ictprimarysch 20:53 #ukedchat
RT @colport: Having major tech problems tonight for #ukedchat
<assuming you have the skills to know what to do? :)
philallman1 20:53
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@janwebb21 #ukedchat yes - and this is where the lead by example
can meet both demands. pupils must come first IMHO
@katie_hague It's terrible. Pressure from results can really blinker
people /schools! Such a shame!! #ukedchat
RT @familysimpson: @digitalspaces @esoldaveglasgow #ukedchat I
too am sick of teachers who undermine a child's education because
SkoorBttaM 20:54 they have 2 learn a new pkg
RT @familysimpson: @digitalspaces @esoldaveglasgow #ukedchat I
too am sick of teachers who undermine a child's education because
Crosbiei 20:54 they have 2 learn a new pkg
@curricadvocate #ukedchat I thought we were getting there - and
then the rose review bit the dust
janwebb21 20:54
#ukedchat We start all training sessions discussing need for ICT
capability, achieved by teaching skills and applying across curriculum
katie_hague 20:54
@ForesterJo @philallman1 Time needs to be built in. INSET etc.
Serious consideration and time needs to be added in #ukedchat
colport 20:54
@ICTEvangelist some argue schools teach this in the way they operate.
#ukedchat
didactylos 20:54
@curricadvocate good question! #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:55
@kvnmcl totally agree, but when it doesn't work, it's always with Doris
the unconfident teacher #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:55
Resources (kit) vital. If a laptop in everyhome why not for every year 4
kid for example. Only Â£250m-same as child trust fund. #ukedchat
@DeputyMitchell We need to send you in with some of your kids! That
would convince them of use of tech in other subjects! #ukedchat
katie_hague 20:55
@ianaddison do learners ever complain of their tech not working? they
seem to manage it fairly well???#ukedchat
Catriona_O 20:55
Here's the Wordle for the National Curriculum Ks1 and 2
http://bit.ly/asSogH #ukedchat
frogphilp 20:55
@colport The staff are all at different skill levels but even the less
confident are having a go and experimenting #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:55
5 minutes remain for #ukedchat
ukedchat 20:55
@ICTtower lol! oops kids will tell me off for using that - apparently it's
no longer cool (neither is cool apparently) #ukedchat #oldfogey
janwebb21 20:55
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@didactylos #ukedchat I would agree! It's one of the biggest problems
we face in our classrooms I think
ICTEvangelist 20:55
RT @Ideas_Factory: @Catriona_O #ukedchat Of course-most of ICT is
not tech anyway-just creative ways to use it!
SkoorBttaM 20:55
@stevebunce cheers pal! #cpdqt #ukedchat
CPDScotsman 20:55
Lost power last week, I said "today we will use the greatest piece of
Info COmm Tech ever invented - the pen". Had to explain why
ICTtower 20:55 #ukedchat
Good model of eCPD delivery: cascading just in time delivery utilising
viral learning via social networks, PLNs #ukedchat it works here!
MoodleMcKean 20:55
@janwebb21 #ukedchat think that the change in chdn is most
powerful tool we have! going to use e-books based on our forest
ForesterJo 20:55 school next wk
We have CLCs in our LA & they seem to have lots of status. Anyone
else? #ukedchat
RT @janwebb21: @curricadvocate #ukedchat I thought we were
getting there - and then the rose review bit the dust Completely Agree!
Ideas_Factory 20:55
Scheduled 6: Be able to explain when and how word processing,
spreadsheet, database and presentation apps may best be used
ColinTGraham 20:55 #ukedchat
@Catriona_O mine whinge a lot at the moment, but they're not used
to it in sch, they will be soon and will be able to deal with it #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:56
@Ideas_Factory @janwebb21 #ukedchat and in this world of 'freedom'
from Gove they could be a starting pt for a framework. never be
curricadvocate 20:56 national
RT @ianaddison: @kvnmcl totally agree, but when it doesn't work, it's
always with Doris the unconfident teacher #ukedchat
ictprimarysch 20:56
@bevevans22 That's all one can ask for #ukedchat
colport 20:56
janwebb21 20:56
@mattlovegrove in 4wks, we've blogged, wallwishered, used 2DIY and
next week trying 2create a super story. (that's in 1 yr grp) #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:56
@ForesterJo look forward to hearing all about it! it sounds really
exciting! #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:56
#ukedchat Last 5 minutes or so-Final question. If you were to teach
one thing to pupils in ICT-What would it be? Please RT
Ideas_Factory 20:56
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RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Pupils should be able to Develop ideas
iteratively << BIG POINT - pupils see point in tech if it progresses
familysimpson 20:56
RT @@ianaddison #ukedchat that is a fair point! mine never got good
music teaching! the thing is not many will lo... http://bit.ly/bwfwpy
alonhalfon 20:56
didactylos 20:56
@carolrainbow I think Curriculum 2000 is the 1999 document, yes? It's
greatest strength is its vagueness. Almost all is permitted. #ukedchat
mberry 20:56
@Ideas_Factory @janwebb21 #ukedchat - but have you still got your
New Pri Curr book sent in Feb? the skills have been written.
@mberry ICT definitely had an update - we had just finished writing a
county 1999 scheme and had to redo great chunks 2000 :-) #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:57
@hairysporan I know. I was given time, but the INSeT meeting over-
ran, so promised for future date!!! GGrr #ukedchat
colport 20:57
RT @janwebb21: @curricadvocate #ukedchat I thought we were
getting there - and then the rose review bit the dust Completely Agree!
katie_hague 20:57 >me too!
RT @familysimpson: RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Pupils should be
able to Develop ideas iteratively << BIG POINT - pupils see point in tech
bartoneducation 20:57 if it progresses
@TheHeadsOffice We have them too. But I only heard of them about 2
weeks ago and don't really know what they are! #ukedchat
Crosbiei 20:57
RT @Ideas_Factory: #ukedchat Last 5 minutes or so-Final question. If
you were to teach one thing to pupils in ICT-What would it be? Please
curricadvocate 20:57 RT
@TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat use them while you can , they are a
seriously endangered species
didactylos 20:57
RT @curricadvocate @janwebb21 #ukedchat - but have you still got
your New Pri Curr book sent in Feb? I still have 'All our Futures' from
Ideas_Factory 20:57 99!
New tech -iPhone just 3 yrs old but look at how it changed use of
mobile tech. Next 3 yrs? ICT curriculum has to be adaptable #ukedchat
kvnmcl 20:57
familysimpson 20:57 RT
@curricadvocate you have a good point there - not sure we do have a
clear vision #ukedchat
ForesterJo 20:57
@didactylos once u understand what's in "the black box" u have less
fear of new technologies & thats what we want to instill #ukedchat
Ariellah 20:57
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@colport One came in lunch time to ask if we had flip camera (been on
a course & seen 1 - took 1 to experiment with later in class #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:58
@kvnmcl but skills learned with first edition are still relevant for
iphone4 thus underlining need fir sound skills teaching #ukedchat
ictprimarysch 20:58
RT @mberry: @carolrainbow I think Curriculum 2000 is the 1999
document, yes? It's greatest strength is its vagueness. Almost all is
SkoorBttaM 20:58 permitted. #ukedchat
hairysporan 20:58 RT
RT @curricadvocate:#ukedchat in this world of 'freedom' from Gove
they could be a starting pt for a framework-never be national V Gd
Ideas_Factory 20:58 point
@kvnmcl #ukedchat unfortunately, bureaucracy will never allow for
that - we're always playing catchup.
ICTEvangelist 20:58
@Ariellah sorry but I've never been a 'black box person' I just like ti to
work #ukedchat
didactylos 20:58
@Ideas_Factory To fail spectacularly, get back up and do better next
time - goes for anything! BOUNCEBACKABILITY!!! #ukedchat
@carolrainbow There's a lesson there. [Almost] anything we prescribe
now will look very out of date in 2021. #ukedchat
mberry 20:58
@curricadvocate shame - cos then there will be a lot of re-inventing of
wheels unless we can get all ict coordinators on twitter #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:58
Why not get the support of other teachers in your area? Add yourself
here http://bit.ly/teachmap #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:58
very little if any inset given over to ict skills for teachers more is
needed #ukedchat
hairysporan 20:58
@Ideas_Factory #ukedchat not to be scared of experimenting - they
really are worried they get things wrong - where is the fun in that?
familysimpson 20:58
@Catriona_O You kidding! My students are learning how frustrating 6
yr old PCs with 256MB RAM are when video editing! #ukedchat
ICTtower 20:58
@Ideas_Factory I believe ICT skills work together so couldn't really
teach just one skill #ukedchat
squiggle7 20:58
@Ideas_Factory @curricadvocate #ukedchat that's ok, I still have my
pgce assignments from over 20 yrs ago including tape cassette
janwebb21 20:59
#ukedchat if I were to teach one thing it would be 'the tools are there
for you to be stupendous' use them wisely
didactylos 20:59
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RT @hairysporan: very little if any inset given over to ict skills for
teachers more is needed #ukedchat < i give training once a month
bevevans22 20:59
@janwebb21 #ukedchat but there are plenty that saw them as gd.
need to communicate that it is not illegal to use them! Spread the
curricadvocate 20:59 word.
#ukedchat I'd teach chn how to use tech effectively & when
appropriate -regardless of what the tech is! e.g presenting for specific
katie_hague 20:59 audience
@carolrainbow Ours is the only subject which has to contend with
Moore's Law #UKEdChat
mberry 20:59
@mberry But - yes - ICT in is almost all subjects, any web 2.0 tools
could fit - video, podcasts etc- not as bad as some ppl think #ukedchat
carolrainbow 20:59
@trees2066 showing relevant uses through our own practice is first
step in changing those attitudes #ukedchat
janwebb21 20:59
1 thing: how & where to find & validate the information they require
online safely #ukedchat
MoodleMcKean 20:59
How to adapt to change. History of tech since they were born.
#ukedchat
@mattlovegrove we're outstanding, I don't care...I mean this term i
make it up as i go, by half term I'll have a long term map #ukedchat
ianaddison 20:59
#ukedchat If you were to teach one thing to pupils in ICT- To 'have a
go' not to be afraid of, or a slave to, emerging technologies.
goodthingsltd 21:00
The 9 o'clock #ukedchat BONG - Many thanks to @Ideas_factory for
hosting this fantastic session this evening.
ukedchat 21:00
RT @PCampbell91curriculum starts from 3 yo in Scot. fantastic
benefits- literacy/ language d/ment when embedded throughout curric
carolinebreyley 21:00 #ukedchat
1 thing: Be wopen to new tech but learn to assess its usefulness in your
comm, work and life #ukedchat
ICTtower 21:00
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat if I were to teach one thing it would be 'the
tools are there for you to be stupendous' use them wisely
Ideas_Factory 21:00
RT @Catriona_O: #ukedchat. teach them one thing in ICT?? How to
share something they've learned Then I might have a chance of
curricadvocate 21:00 knowing about it too!!
RT @MoodleMcKean 1 thing: how & where to find & validate the
information they require online safely #ukedchat >> agree, so
Laura_987 21:00 important!
Crosbiei 21:00 RT
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you were to teach one thing to pupils in ICT-What would it be?
4goggas 21:00
@mberry @carolrainbow #ukedchat what is moore's law - sorry to be
thick!
RT @curricadvocate: @janwebb21 #ukedchat but there are plenty that
saw them as gd. need to communicate that it is not illegal to use them!
janwebb21 21:00 Spread the word.
RT @bartoneducation: How to adapt to change. History of tech since
they were born. #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 21:00
@familysimpson @Ideas_Factory I keep telling other teachers to just
play around.Theyre all so scared of breaking something. #ukedchat
Crosbiei 21:00
RT @frogphilp: Here's the Wordle for the National Curriculum Ks1 and
2 http://bit.ly/asSogH #ukedchat
ianaddison 21:00
@curricadvocate glad it is not just me :-) #ukedchat
carolrainbow 21:01
@kvnmcl #ukedchat so that means our school will get them in 2016...
:/
familysimpson 21:01
@hairysporan I'm being given 10mins or so each staff meeting to
introduce new bits and bobs in small parcels! #ukedchat
LisaHandley 21:01
#ukedchat - thanks for the discussion tweeps, feel we are all feeling
the same pain/issues - i'm outta here x
ICTEvangelist 21:01
@4goggas @Ideas_Factory How to use the internet safely would be
my number one priority #ukedchat
bevevans22 21:01
#ukedchat if had to teach 1 thing in ICT would have to be internet
safety - tackling this in parents meeting tom! Meet me in the ICT suite..
ForesterJo 21:01
@mberry Moore's law?? #UKEdChat
carolrainbow 21:01
RT @katie_hague: #ukedchat One thing that really frustrates me is schs
saying priority is eg writing so they have not time to develop ict!
4goggas 21:01
1 more thing (hello Columbo!): be critical #ukedchat
ICTtower 21:01
@ICTtower OK - but when they do it themselves on all the smart little
devices they have....~ukedchat
Catriona_O 21:01
@Ideas_Factory No fear! #ukedchat
Crosbiei 21:01
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@mberry True - which is why I feel it is the digital literacies that need
to be taught - not IT skills #ukedchat
carolrainbow 21:01
I'd teach them how to search properly and give credit when taking info
from the net #ukedchat
ianaddison 21:01
@curricadvocate strategies/frameworks etc to support it! #ukedchat
janwebb21 21:02
RT @goodthingsltd: #ukedchat If you were to teach one thing to pupils
in ICT- To 'have a go' not to be afraid of, or a slave to, emerging
Crosbiei 21:02 technologies.
@curricadvocate and wasn't that why the national curriculum etc was
introduced in the first place?! and all the subsequent ...... #ukedchat
janwebb21 21:02
RT @ianaddison: I'd teach them how to search properly and give credit
when taking info from the net #ukedchat
#ukedchat Thankyou everyone-not at all what i thought would happen
but fun none-the-less. Like taming a wild beast-with your bare hands!
Ideas_Factory 21:02
Final points please for #ukedchat - The archive process will start in 15
minutes.
ukedchat 21:02
well done to @Ideas_Factory for hosting a fab #ukedchat session, top
marks that man!
ianaddison 21:02
RT @didactylos: #ukedchat if I were to teach one thing it would be 'the
tools are there for you to be stupendous' use them wisely
SkoorBttaM 21:02
@mberry @carolrainbow - yes dangerous. All Education has to
contend with Moore's law - and so far too many don't accept that
didactylos 21:02 #ukedchat
@hairysporan #ukedchat I'd recommend @kvnmcl 'Better Google
searching' 15min CPD for sharing ICT skills with teachers
stevebunce 21:02 http://bit.ly/ahJUB0
@Ideas_Factory thanks for a great #ukedchat (my first!)
ictprimarysch 21:02
* We are preparing learners for jobs that don't exist yet using
technology which maybe outdated by the time they use it in work
Erindea 21:02 #ukedchat xx
I'd help them to keep experimenting with what's possible with the
technology in their reach #ukedchat
kvnmcl 21:02
@curricadvocate it's all very well having the freedom to create our
own curriculum but too many choices can lead to woolliness
#ukedchat another brilliant hour flies by, thanks to all views, thanks to
all participants
didactylos 21:03
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@janwebb21 I can't see that wooliness is a problem - it means skills
and literacies can be updated as they need to be :-) #ukedchat
carolrainbow 21:03
RT @ianaddison: I'd teach them how to search properly and give credit
when taking info from the net #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 21:03
@carolrainbow @mberry #ukedchat - you have just hit the nail on the
head with a very big hammer! that one comment just shifted my
curricadvocate 21:03 thinking
Great #ukedchat tonight yet again. Thanks to @ideas_factory for great
hosting and keeping things ticking along
bevevans22 21:03
RT @bevevans22: Great #ukedchat tonight yet again. Thanks to
@ideas_factory for great hosting and keeping things ticking along
janwebb21 21:04
@didactylos okay okay - someone give me a clue ;-) you are all teasing
me - what is Moore's law? #ukedchat
carolrainbow 21:04
@curricadvocate in popular terms that the capacity of tech doubles
every two years. See http://goo.gl/GgzR for the proper defn.
@janwebb21 #ukedchat yes, and why discussions about core national
entitlement will be so important in the nxt five months. ict not on
curricadvocate 21:04 agenda
@carolrainbow but then in a couple of years the politicians will say we
need to have parity! #ukedchat
janwebb21 21:04
I'd help them to know when technology wasn't needed and how to
adapt their skills to new situations #ukedchat
daviderogers 21:04
RT @ianaddison: well done to @Ideas_Factory for hosting a fab
#ukedchat session, top marks that man!< agree - thanks!
Catriona_O 21:04
RT @carolrainbow: @janwebb21 I can't see that wooliness is a
problem - it means skills and literacies can be updated as they need to
Ideas_Factory 21:04 be :-) #ukedchat
RT @ukedchat: Final points please for #ukedchat - The archive process
will start in 15 minutes.
ianaddison 21:04
great #ukedchat tonight! Thanks @Ideas_Factory for hosting
#ukedchat
squiggle7 21:04
RT @ukedchat: Many thanks to @Ideas_factory for hosting this
fantastic session this evening>Me too! V interesting reading tonight.
katie_hague 21:04
@Crosbiei @Ideas_Factory #ukedchat I know but from rptd training of
teachers in simple pkgs like movie maker or scratch they don't hv conf
familysimpson 21:05
@curricadvocate Gove/gov obviously see it as very low priority - chalk
would be better #ukedchat
janwebb21 21:05
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RT @carolrainbow: @didactylos okay okay - someone give me a clue ;-)
you are all teasing me - what is Moore's law? #ukedchat Google it!! ;^)
Ideas_Factory 21:05
One thing I'd teach in ICT - How to make smoke signals... we'll all need
it when the apocalypse comes. ;-) #ukedchat
frogphilp 21:05
RT @ICTEvangelist: #ukedchat - thanks for the discussion tweeps, feel
we are all feeling the same pain/issues - i'm outta here x
Crosbiei 21:05
RT @daviderogers: I'd help them to know when technology wasn't
needed and how to adapt their skills to new situations #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 21:05
@oliverquinlan #ukedchat inspected so do not explore alternative
pedagogies! A constant battle but one we have to take on and win
#ukedchat final points? strange one tonight. discrpancies between
teacher/learner skills- who idenitifies the skills? the most skilled??
Catriona_O 21:06
Moore's Law: http://tinyurl.com/za3uu and http://tinyurl.com/8rhgs
#ukedchat
ICTtower 21:06
RT @TheHeadsOffice: Does 'Joe Pubilc' really understand much of the
ground breaking work that it is being done?# #ukedchat
4goggas 21:06
Thanks to @ideas_factory for great hosting - great evening's discussion
- thanks to all #ukedchat
carolrainbow 21:06
RT @frogphilp: One thing I'd teach in ICT - How to make smoke
signals... we'll all need it when the apocalypse comes. ;-) #ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 21:06 LOL!
@oliverquinlan #ukedchat the lack of interest in pedagogy is more
widespread than you'd hope. too many want to ensure they will be
curricadvocate 21:06 safe when
'Champions are made when noone is watching...'
http://creativityis09.blogspot.com/ #creativity #innovation #ukedchat
Skelly2525 21:07
RT @Catriona_O: #ukedchat final points? strange one tonight.
discrpancies between teacher/learner skills- who idenitifies the skills?
islayian 21:07 the most skilled??
RT @ICTtower: Moore's Law: http://tinyurl.com/za3uu and
http://tinyurl.com/8rhgs #ukedchat @carolrainbow
Ideas_Factory 21:07
RT @carolrainbow: Thanks to @ideas_factory for great hosting - great
evening's discussion - thanks to all #ukedchat
SkoorBttaM 21:07
@janwebb21 well I guess we can't win them all :-) We can but try
though! #ukedchat
carolrainbow 21:07
LOL! RT @frogphilp: One thing I'd teach in ICT - How to make smoke
signals... we'll all need it when the apocalypse comes. ;-) #ukedchat
ICTtower 21:07
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@janwebb21 #ukedchat the empire was founded on it! (all views are
my own..all views are my own...)
@Ideas_Factory Thank you! Really enjoyed my first #ukedchat of many
to come!
Crosbiei 21:08
@mberry Thank you - re Moore's law - yes it does ring a bell now - will
go and read :-) #ukedchat
carolrainbow 21:08
@Catriona_O #ukedchat or how its all assessed
islayian 21:08
RT @Crosbiei: @Ideas_Factory Thank you! Really enjoyed my first
#ukedchat of many to come! Knew you would-made some v good
Ideas_Factory 21:09 points-c u nxt wk
#ukedchat feeling very lonely in NE Scotland on http://bit.ly/teachmap
familysimpson 21:09
I think I need some wine now!! Nice chatting to all #ukedchat-ters
Catriona_O 21:09
RT @familysimpson: #ukedchat feeling very lonely in NE Scotland on
http://bit.ly/teachmap <anyone in NE scotland?
ianaddison 21:10
@ictprimarysch Made some great points-thanks for support0may this
be the first of many ukedchat
Ideas_Factory 21:10
@curricadvocate mine too - mine too! #ukedchat
janwebb21 21:11
time to move the #ukedchat column right a bit in tweetdeck, until next
week anyway
ianaddison 21:11
@Catriona_O Ah - should I not have been drinking through that
#ukedchat? I'll take note for next time.
frogphilp 21:12
@ianaddison #ukedchat just me & the sheep...
familysimpson 21:12
RT @ianaddison: time to move the #ukedchat column right a bit in
tweetdeck, until next week anyway
janwebb21 21:12
RT @familysimpson: #ukedchat feeling very lonely in NE Scotland on
http://bit.ly/teachmap
islayian 21:12
Whilst you are still in the #ukedchat mood, why not vote for next week
now? http://twtpoll.com/b7qwfb
ukedchat 21:12
RT @ukedchat: Whilst you are still in the #ukedchat mood, why not
vote for next week now? http://twtpoll.com/b7qwfb
janwebb21 21:13
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vote for next week now? http://bit.ly/aqkbJq >Done!
#ukedchat Great discussion this evening - was fantastic to talk to you
all about something we all care so much about -Thanks
janwebb21 21:13 @Ideas_Factory
colport 21:13
DrAshCasey 21:13
@ianaddison Great minds, eh? ;-) #ukedchat
ICTtower 21:13
@Catriona_O Sorry, missed ur tweet during #ukedchat. I don't think ur
unusual either, but hopefully ur open to new ideas unlike some others!
Crosbiei 21:14
Possibly the best blog post I've ever read-Bravo @mcleod We
*definitely* canâ€™t let educators off the hook http://bit.ly/b33U6v
RT @kerryuniservity: The busy worker bees at #Lifeisaboutlearning HQ
R busy building a fab product, the buzz is contagious #ukedchat
b_sills 21:16 #edchat
Ideas_Factory 21:17
@carolrainbow thanks for the chatter :) #ukedchat
Mr_Thorne 21:17
RT @ianaddison: @mynictle here's our facebook guidance
http://bit.ly/9lnyoa #ukedchat
soo59 21:17
The #ukedchat archive process has started. Will tweet the links soon
for your enjoyment :-)
ukedchat 21:19
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