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M Damodaran View:
I do not think it will be a challenge if you search for the people seriously. There are several
untapped areas where you can get good directors but typically what happens and what
happened as soon as gender diversity was introduced in the Companies Act everyone
went to the same 10 or 15 women directors who had done very well on boards and said
will you join my board. Clearly, they had their limitations but if you look around, if you can
find men to be on the board I do not see why you cannot look around and find women to
be in the board. In this day and age, you will find as many women that are competent for
board positions as you will find men.
I do not think that is a challenge at all but to stay with the subject, I personally believe you
need to have a minimum of two women on the board of whom at least one should be
independent. The reason I am saying this is that you do not want the first women director
coming on the board because of tokenism to be referred to as a to as a woman director
because the men do not get referred to as men directors or male directors. She is a
director first; the gender is a matter of detail. I think you do not want to slot somebody into
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a box for the sake of tokenism, it must be for talent, it must be because of the value they
bring to the board.
The Indian corporate world has made a promising start in gender diversity. Though India
is among the developing countries to promote women's representation on boards, it has a
long way to go compared to developed economies. Considering that women have entered
male bastions like aviation, astronautics and military, the presence of the fair sex in board
rooms is justified too. Company managements in India are still to adjust their board
composition to adhere to statutory requirements. Now the time has come for companies
in the country to transcend statutory requirements and reap the rich dividends of gender
diversity. This is possible only with a shift in the corporate mind set.
M Damodaran View:
I think where the chairman is related to the promoter or is holding an executive position,
clearly you must have 50% of the board as independent directors. This recommendation
travels a little further and says you must have independent directors to the extent of 50%
on board. It does not say that where the chairman is an executive chairman. It is a good
thing to do that but to believe that independent directors are the solution to all problems is
to expect much more than will happen at this point of time.
I think underlying all of this there is a fallacy which we need to look at. There is a feeling
that independent directors are supposed to look after just the interest of the minority
stakeholders, whereas Section 164 (2) of the Companies Act says clearly that it is to look
after the interests of the company, all stakeholders and to act in a manner which promotes
the interests of all stakeholders.
Of course, elsewhere it has said that you also need to focus on the requirement of
minority shareholders. Now the minute you say that it is independent directors that are
going to drive this entire process, are you in some sense negatively impacting the role of
the management because independent directors and audit committees do not run
companies, it is managements that run companies and answer the board. So, you can
have 50% I have no problem with that, but you must get the right people, I think that is
more important.
Conclusion:
Satyam episode is proven to be tragic for the Indian corporate world, but it should be
considered as a wake-up call to many. The Satyam case brought out the failure of the
present corporate governance structure, in which independent directors failed to perform
their responsibility effectively. As in Satyam case independent directors lacked
commitment; they failed to live up to the stakeholders’ expectations. The only way
independent directors can stop wrong doing by acting collectively.
Independent directors are still the only hope to instill discipline in the murky world of
corporate finance, provided their independence is not being compromised. If they are no
more independent, then their appointment in a company will be meaningless. This position
deserves to be corrected by empowering SEBI and the Indian government.
We can clearly see from the above discussion that Independent directors are not
independent. Hence the very word independent is a misnomer. They should be rightly
named as dependent directors.
Therefore, we can conclude that independent directors are though appointed in the
interest of the Company and the Stakeholders, they end up doing good to the Promoters
Even if one or two of them are independent of their judgment and takes a fair and prudent
view, then also at the end of the day the decision of the majority prevails, diluting the
effectiveness of their view.
There is no need to implement new laws; all we need to do is to renew existing laws.
Independent directors may not be able to stop management fraud perpetrated at the
highest level, but with high level of commitment and due diligence they should be able to
identify signals that indicate that everything is not going right.
and the CEO/MD, while not a recent phenomenon, is a growing concern in corporate
governance worldwide.
The separation of powers of the chairperson (i.e. the leader of the board) and CEO/MD
(i.e. the leader of the management) is seen to provide a better and more balanced
governance structure by enabling better and more effective supervision of the
management, by virtue of:
a) providing a structural advantage for the board to act independently;
b) reducing excessive concentration of authority in a single individual;
c) clarifying the respective roles of the chairperson and the CEO/MD;
d) ensuring that board tasks are not neglected by a combined chairperson-CEO/MD due
to lack of time;
e) increasing the possibility that the chairperson and CEO/MD posts will be assumed by
individuals possessing the skills and experience appropriate for those positions;
f) creating a board environment that is more egalitarian and conducive to debate.
Several corporate governance codes for best practices recommend this, a few
jurisdictions require it, and many companies are actively debating whether to undertake it.
The Committee noted that in some jurisdictions, such as the U.K. and Australia, this
debate has tilted in favour of separating the two posts. In other countries, such as France
and the U.S., the issue continues to be vigorously debated. Countries with a two-tier board
structure, such as Germany and the Netherlands, separate the top board and top
management roles.
In this regard, the Committee also noted the rationale of the United Kingdom’s Cadbury
Committee in the Report of the Committee on the Financial Aspects of Corporate
Governance (1992) that “given the importance and the nature of the chairmen’s role, it
should in principle be separate from that of the chief executive. If the two roles are
combined in one person, it represents a considerable concentration of power”.
After deliberation, the Committee believes that the time is right in India to introduce a
separation of the roles of the Chairperson and the CEO/MD for listed entities. The
Committee observed that such separation, at least at the stage of introduction of the
construct, may be more relevant where public shareholders constitute a large portion of
the shareholding of a company. In this regard, the Committee considered various
thresholds and concluded at least 40% of public shareholding would be an appropriate
threshold. Further, in view of the fact that this would require a significant transition from
the existing requirements, the Committee believes that listed entities should be
given sufficient time to undertake such a transition.
Therefore, it is recommended that:
Listed entities with more than 40% public shareholding should separate the roles of
Chairperson and MD/CEO with effect from April 1, 2020.
After 2020, SEBI may examine extending the requirement to all listed entities with effect
from April 1, 2022.
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M Damodaran View:
I have for several years maintained that if the same person is the chairman and the chief
executive -- call him or her MD, CEO -- whatever you will, it is the ultimate negation of
corporate governance. And the reason I am saying this is because it is the responsibility of
the board to ask questions of the management. The responsibility of the management is to
answer those questions. The board on behalf of shareholders and other stakeholders is to
hold the management to account for running the company properly in the interest of all
stakeholders. So, there is a relationship between the board and the management in terms
of one holding or the other accountable.
If both are led by the same person at one level. it is the chairman asking questions and
the managing director answering the questions and the rest of the board having ringside
seats in that theatre which is not good enough. You must split both these positions.
Otherwise you are negating the fundamentals of corporate governance. This is the
recommendation that should have come many, many years ago. It has not happened, I
am glad it has come now.
• One of the jobs of the chairman is to monitor CEO's work. When a chairman happens to
be CEO also it means that the CEO is put in the position of evaluating his own
performance. In such a situation, it may become difficult for the board to independently
evaluate the CEO's functioning, or to express independent opinions. Separation of
positions would create environment of greater accountability.
• If the roles are not separated it may cause concentration of power, lack of oversight. It
may even diminish the independence of the Board.
• Board has power to appoint and remove the CEO. If roles are not separated between
two persons, then it may create conflict of interest in practical situation.
• The function of the chairman is to run board meetings and oversee the process of hiring,
firing, evaluating, and compensating the CEO. CEOs cannot perform these duties
impartially.
• A study by GMI Ratings, the leading provider of research, data and analytics on
environmental, social, governance (ESG) and forensic accounting risks reveals that in
their study of 180 major North American corporations those companies in which a single
person holds the combined titles median pay to him is in excess of $16 million. This
compares with the $11 million compensation for those who only hold the CEO title. The
study further reveals that companies with combined CEOs and chairmen appear to
present greater risk for investors and provide lower stock returns over the longer term than
companies with separate roles.
Conclusion:
M Damodaran View:
Honestly, I am a little uncomfortable with this recommendation. I know what has
occasioned the committee to look at this. Clearly it was a Tata matter, but the
recommendation seems to suggest that this is a matter that will be resolved by an
agreement between the two parties and I do not think that is necessarily the best solution.
What you need to look at, in all of this is you operate on a need to know basis. Does that
person or does that group need to know the information that they are seeking and if so for
what purpose? Is it likely to lead to any disadvantage being suffered by those that do not
have information at the same point of time because information asymmetry is one of the
major issues in the corporate governance space along with conflict of interest.
I called them the terrible twins in the governance space and you cannot skirt information
asymmetry related regulations like PIT by saying let them enter into an agreement and
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deal with this. I am uncomfortable. I would like to see how this plays out.
Conclusion:
Another trend that was brought to the attention of the Committee and found to be
undesirable from a good governance standpoint, is “board interlocks” which may run a
structural vulnerability of quid-pro-quo.
In this context, the Committee recommends the revision of eligibility criteria for a director
to be an “independent director” to also include the following:
(i) Specifically exclude persons who constitute the ‘promoter group’ of a listed entity;
(ii) Requirement of an undertaking from the ID that such a director is not aware of any
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circumstance or situation, which exists or may be reasonably anticipated, that could impair
or impact his/her ability to discharge his/her duties with objective independent judgements
and without any external influence.
(iii) The board of the listed entity taking on record the above undertaking after due
assessment of the veracity of such undertaking.
(iv) Exclude “board inter-locks” arising due to common non-independent directors on
boards of listed entities (i.e. a non-independent director of a company on the board of
which any non-independent director of the listed entity is an independent director, cannot
be an independent director on the board of the listed entity). For instance, If Mr. A is an
executive director on Co. A (being a listed entity) and is also an independent director on
Co. B, then no non-independent director of Co. B can be an independent director on the
board of Co. A.
Further, the Committee observed that there needs to be continuous assessment of the
independence criteria. Regulatory requirements for testing the independence of directors
are currently based on factual information or checklists. However, true independence is a
function of behaviour, and an objectiveness being brought to board deliberations and
overall decision making. Some markets follow a practice of the board certifying to the
independence of its directors: the Committee believes this practice must be brought to
India as well. It is therefore recommended that the board of directors as a part of the
board evaluation process may be required to certify every year that each of its IDs fulfils
the conditions specified in the SEBI LODR Regulations and is independent of the
management.
M Damodaran View:
Conclusion: