Re: what is the difference between DBMS and RDBMS??

Answer
#1
In DBMS “Normalization process” will not be present
and in
RDBMS “normalization process” will be present to
check the
database table consistency.

Re: what is the difference between DBMS and RDBMS??

Answer
#2
DBMS is an ordinary system to maintain the data,
whereas
RDBMS is the specific type, which follows the
concepts of
set theory i.e. entity etc. In DBMS there is no
concept of
“PRIMARY KEY” and “FOREIGN KEY” but it is included
in RDBMS.
DBMS contains only flat data whereas in RDBMS there
will be
some relation between the entities.
What is the Difference between DBMS and RDBMS?

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A DBMS has to be persistent, that is it should be accessible when the

program created the data ceases to exist or even the application that created
the data restarted. A DBMS also has to provide some uniform methods
independent of a specific application for accessing the information that is
stored.

RDBMS is a Relational Data Base Management System Relational DBMS.

This adds the additional condition that the system supports a tabular
structure for the data, with enforced relationships between the tables. This
excludes the databases that don't support a tabular structure or don't enforce
relationships between tables.

Many DBA's think that RDBMS is a Client Server Database system but thats
not the case with RDBMS.

Yes you can say DBMS does not impose any constraints or security with
regard to data manipulation it is user or the programmer responsibility to
ensure the ACID PROPERTY of the database whereas the rdbms is more
with this regard bcz rdbms define the integrity constraint for the purpose of
holding ACID PROPERTY.

I have found many answers on many websites saying that

DBMS are for smaller organizations with small amount of data, where
security of the data is not of major concern and RDBMS are designed to take
care of large amounts of data and also the security of this data.
and this is completely wrong by definition of RDBMS and DBMS

DBMS Does not follow the normalization while RDBMS follows the
normalization. This is the major difference between them

1.RDBMS=DBMS+Referential Integrity

2. An RDBMS is one that follows 12 rules of CODD.

the primary difference between the DBMS and RDBMS we can add the
foreign keys for relating the tables

In dbms ,relation is between two files . while in rdbms relation is made

between two tables.

rdbms follow 12 rules of Codd.

rdbms is a relation data base managment system and dbms is a data base
management system. rdbms is two table joining the relation and dbms is not
join the table.

The major differences between DBMS and RDBMS are: DBMS is mainly a
storage area and it does not employ any tables for storing the data or does
not use any special function keys or foreign keys for the retrieval of the data.
RDBMS has the major difference of solving the queries easily, as they are
stored in table format and use many functional keys in solving the queries.
They follow the Codd's rule..
DBMS does not support client/server Architecture but RDBMS supports
client/server Architecture.

DBMS Does not follow the normalization while RDBMS follows the
normalization. This is the major difference between them

all above are correct but one more think is there DBMS WON'T ALLOW
YOU SHARE THE DATA SERVER TO CLINT. BUT IN RDBMS WE
CAN SHARE DATA SERVER TO CLINT
Only one user can access the database at a time in DBMS.

But RDBMS allows simultaneous access of users to the database

Answer
#1
1)DBMS permits only one person to access the database at a
given time. But RDBMS gives the multiple access the database
at a given time.
2)DBMS organized the data in any format but RDBMS allows
only in row and column format.
3)In DBMS we can not create the relations but in
RDBMS we can not create the relationship between the tables
Answer
#2
The difference in RDBMS and DBMS does not lie in the way
tables and data are related to each other (i.e. the Foreign
Key relationship). dBase and MS Access are DBMS's which
have foreign key relationships implemented.

RDBMS is based on the concepts of Relational Set Theory in

mathematics and hence the name Relational Database
Management System. They implement the project, restrict,
union, intersect, difference, product, divide and join in
the queries. DBMS's on the other hand, supports two or
more, but not all of the concepts.
Answer
#3
#1 A DBMS has to be persistent, that is it should be
accessible when the program created the data ceases to
exist or even the application that created the data
restarted. A DBMS also has to provide some uniform methods
independent of a specific application for accessing the
information that is stored.

RDBMS is a Relational Data Base Management System

Relational DBMS. This adds the additional condition that
the system supports a tabular structure for the data, with
enforced relationships between the tables. This excludes
the databases that don't support a tabular structure or
don't enforce relationships between tables.

#2 DBMS does not impose any constraints or security with

regard to data manipulation it is user or the programmer
responsibility to ensure the ACID PROPERTY of the database
whereas the rdbms is more with this regard bcz rdbms difine
the integrity constraint for the purpose of holding ACID
PROPERTY.

#3 DBMS are for smaller organizations with small amount of

data, where security of the data is not of major concern
and RDBMS are designed to take care of large amounts of
data and also the security of this data.
Answer
#4
RDBMS IS RELATIONAL DATABASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IT MAINTAIN
A RELATION BETWEEN ENTITY .AND DBMS IS DATABASE MANAGEMENT
SYSTEM IT IS MAINTAIN A RELATION BETWEEN DATABASE
Answer
#5
DBMS IS A GENERAL SOFTWARE SYSTEM FOR MANAGEMENT OF DATA.
WHERE AS RDBMD IS A SPECIFIC TYPE OF DBMS WHICH IS BASED ON
PRINCIPAL OF SET THEORY . RELATION WORD IN SET THEORY IS
DEFINED AS SUBSET OF THE CAETESIAN PRODUCT OF TWO OR MORE
SETS. DATA INTO A TABLE IS REPRESENTED IN FORM OF RELATION.
Apart from this E. F. Codd has prescribed 12 guideline for
DBMS to be a RDBMS WHICH IS KNOWK AS CODD'S RULE.
Hi,

A DBMS (Data Base Management System) is used to store data. Nevertheless, one gets
different types of databases that stores and manages data differently. For example, a
Relational DBMS (or RDBMS) stores data as relations (rows and columns). Likewise, a
hierarchical database will store data in complex structures linked with pointers. An object
database will store data as objects.

Oracle is an Object Relational Database, which means it stores data in tables with rows
and columns. In addition to this Oracle can also store data as XML or Objects.
Best regards.

Frank

hello,
the basic and important difference b/w rdbms and dbms is that in rdbms we can link or
relate or can have relation b/w two or more tables and in dbms we can not relate two
tables.

rdbms follows E.F. codd rules but dbms not.

1. DBMS - Database Management Systems
Companies need to process a large amount of data. Manual storage of this data wastes a
lot of time while retrieving it. It also requires tedious clerical hours to arrange the data in
the form required by top management. Storing this data in a way to facilitate easy access
is very important and that is why computers are used in organizations. This is possible
using DBMS. DBMS, besides allowing you to store large amounts of data, allows you to
retrieve information easily whenever and in whichever format it is desired.
2. RDBMS - Relational Database Management Systems
The functionality of RDBMS is the same as DBMS except that the features offered for
data storage and retrieval are very advanced. These systems are based on mathematical
SET theory. A RDBMS ensures that the data stored in the database is accurate and
relevant. Excellent security features are offered by these systems. RDBMS packages are
used in medium to large-scale organizations, especially, those where data has to be made
available on distributed networks.
These systems have capability to store a very large amount of data and have quick data
retrieval mechanisms. They also have elaborate database administration for handling
multi-users, storage, and failures.
An RDBMS uses SQL (Structures Query Language) to access data from database. This is
a standard language commonly used across different RDBMS.
3. What is the difference between RDBMS & DBMS?
DBMS are for smaller organizations with small amount of data, where security of the
data is not of major concern. Also DBMS are not necessarily client server based systems.
With DBMS, one can develop a complete application, starting from processing inputs to
generating output.
RDBMS are designed to take care of large amounts of data and also the security of this
data. They are also client server based systems. To create a complete application, one
requires client software like VB, Developer 2000.

DBMS are for smaller organizations with small amount of data, where security of the
data is not of major concern. Also DBMS are not necessarily client server based systems.
With DBMS, one can develop a complete application, starting from processing inputs to
generating output.

RDBMS are designed to take care of large amounts of data and also the security of this
data. They are also client server based systems. To create a complete application, one
requires client software like VB, Developer 2000.
hi,
the difference between dbms and rdbms is well defined in terms of the way both organize
data and provide retrieval of data .......
dbms does not impose any constraints or security with regard to data manipulation it is
user or the programmer responsibility to ensure the ACID PROPERTY of the database
whereas the rdbms is more with this regard bcz rdbms difine the integrity constraint for
the purpose of holding ACID PROPERTY.
dbms:- permit only one person to access the database at a given time.
rdbms:-allow many user simultaneous access to the database

Hey guys
Ques:-Could you tell me plz what's 7 difference between RDBS
and DBMS and one more is “Is the access DBMS”?
If it's DBMS then why because in access also we can define relationships ????/???///

DBMS means all information is stored in any way without any order or any key. For
example time-table of a class. This is just a database not a relational database. Another
thing is that while searching any information in just database a record pointer is
maintained.
In case of RDBMS all data must be stored in a table with one or mare keys. Another
name of table is a relation . Relation is just a mathematical term of a table. It means that
we can perform any operation like Projection, Join, Retrieval on that relation and the
resulting data is also in term of relation. so we can say that any relation is closed with
respect to all that operators. Searching any data in relation is performed through key ,
record pointer is not maintained.

this is what i could find about the diff bet DBMS and RDBMS.

DBMS/RDBMS

1. DBMS - Database Management Systems

Companies need to process a large amount of data. Manual storage of this data wastes a
lot of time while retrieving it. It also requires tedious clerical hours to arrange the data in
the form required by top management. Storing this data in a way to facilitate easy access
is very important and that is why computers are used in organizations. This is possible
using DBMS. DBMS, besides allowing you to store large amounts of data, allows you to
retrieve information easily whenever and in whichever format it is desired.

2. RDBMS - Relational Database Management Systems

The functionality of RDBMS is the same as DBMS except that the features offered for
data storage and retrieval are very advanced. These systems are based on mathematical
SET theory. A RDBMS ensures that the data stored in the database is accurate and
relevant. Excellent security features are offered by these systems. RDBMS packages are
used in medium to large-scale organizations, especially, those where data has to be made
available on distributed networks.

These systems have capability to store a very large amount of data and have quick data
retrieval mechanisms. They also have elaborate database administration for handling
multi-users, storage, and failures.

An RDBMS uses SQL (Structures Query Language) to access data from database. This is
a standard language commonly used across different RDBMS.

3. What is the difference between RDBMS & DBMS?

DBMS are for smaller organizations with small amount of data, where security of the
data is not of major concern. Also DBMS are not necessarily client server based systems.
With DBMS, one can develop a complete application, starting from processing inputs to
generating output.

RDBMS are designed to take care of large amounts of data and also the security of this
data. They are also client server based systems. To create a complete application, one
requires client software like VB, Developer 2000.
DBMS can store data in any format but RDBMS store data always in the format of
relations or table or we can say in the format of rows and column.

DBMS can store in form of trees, graphs and also in tables. But RDBMS is not in the
form of trees and graphs.

Actually RDBMS is the special part of DBMS.

which means Relational DBMS(RDBMS).We can show relations between the tables in
the RDBMS.
e.g.: MS Access, Oracle 8i etc are RDBMS.

1. The Information rule: All information in an RDBMS is represented logically in just

one way - by values in tables.
2. The Guaranteed Access rule: Each item of data in an RDBMS is guaranteed to be
logically accessible by resorting to a combination of table name, primary key value, and
column name.
3. The Systematic Treatment of Null Values rule: Null values (distinct from an empty
character string or a string of blank characters and distinct from zero or any other
number) are supported in a fully relational DBMS for representing missing information
and inapplicable information in a systematic way, independent of the data type.
4. The Dynamic Online Catalog Based on the Relational Model rule: The database
description is represented at the logical level in the same way as ordinary data, so that
authorized users can apply the same relational language to its interrogation as they apply
to the regular data.
5. The Comprehensive Data Sublanguage rule: A relational system may support several
languages and various modes of terminal use (for example, the fill-in-blanks mode).
However, there must be at least one language whose statements are expressible, per some
well-defined syntax, as character strings and whose ability to support all of the following
is comprehensible: data definition, view definition, data manipulation (interactive and by
program), integrity constraints, and transaction boundaries (begin, commit, and rollback).

6. The View Updating rule: All views of the data which are theoretically updatable must
be updatable in practice by the DBMS.
7. The High-level Insert, Update, and Delete rule: The capability of handling a base
relation or a derived relation as a single operand applies not only to the retrieval of data
but also to the insertion, update, and deletion of data.
8. The Physical Data Independence rule: Application programs and terminal activities
remain logically unimpaired whenever any changes are made in either storage
representations or access methods.
9. The Logical Data Independence rule: Application programs and terminal activities
remain logically unimpaired when information preserving changes of any kind that
theoretically permit unimpairment are made to the base tables.
10. The Integrity Independence rule: Integrity constraints must be definable in the
RDBMS sub-language and stored in the system catalogue and not within individual
application programs.
11. The Distribution Independence rule: An RDBMS has distribution independence.
Distribution independence implies that users should not have to be aware of whether a
database is distributed.
12. The No subversion rule: If the database has any means of handling a single record at a
time, that low-level language must not be able to subvert or avoid the integrity rules
which are expressed in a higher-level language that handles multiple records at a time.

The two terms DBMS and RDBMS are often used interchangeably. However the R in
RDBMS implies that the database uses the Relational model.

The term RDBMS (Relational Database Management System) is only used with
Relational databases (Note: Some relational databases are more Relational than others.
There is no specific boundary between relational and non-relational databases.)

The term DBMS (Database Management System) is applied to almost all databases.

The two terms DBMS and RDBMS are often used interchangeably. However the R in
RDBMS implies that the database uses the Relational model.

The term RDBMS (Relational Database Management System) is only used with
Relational databases (Note: Some relational databases are more Relational than others.
There is no specific boundary between relational and non-relational databases.)

The term DBMS (Database Management System) is applied to almost all databases.
The rdbms stands for relational database management system, and the dbms stands for
database management system. The main difference is that the tables are viewed as
relations in rdbms and in dbms the tables are viewed as tables. The rdbms is based on the
set theory, and on the principles of Dr. Codd. there are 13 rules of dr. codd which governs
how the tables will be designed in the rdbms.

A database has to be persistent, meaning that the information stored in a database has to
continue to exist even after the application(s) that saved and manipulated the data have
ceased to run. A database also has to provide some uniform methods that are not
dependent on a specific application for accessing the information that is stored inside the
database.

This is a pretty liberal definition of a database. Lotus Notes calls its message stores
"databases", and by this definition they qualify. MUMPS calls its associative storage a
database, and while it takes a bit of a stretch, even that meets this definition. There are a
number of new database technologies that include object-oriented databases and
associative databases, and they seem to qualify as databases under this definition too.

Text or flat binary files don't qualify as databases under this definition, since only the
application that created one of these files knows enough about the file's contents to make
use of the information stored within the file. They meet the persistence part of the DBMS
definition, but not the independent access part of the definition.

Other "standards" like the Berkeley DB format supported by Perl, Python, and related
languages do more or less qualify as a DBMS. While it isn't what most people think of
when they think about DBMS setups, it does meet both the persistence and uniform
access conditions for a DBMS.

An RDBMS is a Relational Data Base Management System. This adds the additional
condition that the system supports a tabular structure for the data, with enforced
relationships between the tables. This excludes the databases that I've listed so far since
they either don't support a tabular structure at all, or don't enforce relationships between
tables.

Microsoft's Jet database engine qualifies as an RDBMS under this definition, even though
it seems like the majority of its users ignore the "relational" side of the engine by failing
to declare foreign keys. Individual FoxPro files do not qualify because they don't have
any built-in method for declaring or supporting relationships, even though nearly every
FoxPro system I've ever seen expects or relies on these relationships.

Most DBAs think of an RDBMS as a client/server system. The database engine runs on a
server, and client applications connect and request data from the server. Microsoft SQL
Server, Oracle, DB2 (both the Z series and the UDB product), and most of the other
"industrial grade" databases in use today use this mental model.

No discussion of RDBMS would be complete without mentioning "An Introduction to

Database Systems" by Chris Date. This is the present incarnation of the book that
originally defined the Relational Model as Edgar F. Codd defined it. You can read more
at the Learning Zone.
n Reply to: Re: Difference between RDBMS & DBMS posted by Sandeep on October
21, 2004 at 07:51:20:

A database has to be persistent, meaning that the information stored in a database has to
continue to exist even after the application(s) that saved and manipulated the data have
ceased to run. A database also has to provide some uniform methods that are not
dependent on a specific application for accessing the information that is stored inside the
database.

This is a pretty liberal definition of a database. Lotus Notes calls its message stores
"databases", and by this definition they qualify. MUMPS calls its associative storage a
database, and while it takes a bit of a stretch, even that meets this definition. There are a
number of new database technologies that include object-oriented databases and
associative databases, and they seem to qualify as databases under this definition too.

Text or flat binary files don't qualify as databases under this definition, since only the
application that created one of these files knows enough about the file's contents to make
use of the information stored within the file. They meet the persistence part of the DBMS
definition, but not the independent access part of the definition.

Other "standards" like the Berkeley DB format supported by Perl, Python, and related
languages do more or less qualify as a DBMS. While it isn't what most people think of
when they think about DBMS setups, it does meet both the persistence and uniform
access conditions for a DBMS.

An RDBMS is a Relational Data Base Management System. This adds the additional
condition that the system supports a tabular structure for the data, with enforced
relationships between the tables. This excludes the databases that I've listed so far since
they either don't support a tabular structure at all, or don't enforce relationships between
tables.

Microsoft's Jet database engine qualifies as an RDBMS under this definition, even though
it seems like the majority of its users ignore the "relational" side of the engine by failing
to declare foreign keys. Individual FoxPro files do not qualify because they don't have
any built-in method for declaring or supporting relationships, even though nearly every
FoxPro system I've ever seen expects or relies on these relationships.

Most DBAs think of an RDBMS as a client/server system. The database engine runs on a
server, and client applications connect and request data from the server. Microsoft SQL
Server, Oracle, DB2 (both the Z series and the UDB product), and most of the other
"industrial grade" databases in use today use this mental model.

No discussion of RDBMS would be complete without mentioning "An Introduction to

Database Systems" by Chris Date. This is the present incarnation of the book that
originally defined the Relational Model as Edgar F. Codd defined it. You can read more
at the Learning Zone.
A database has to be persistent, meaning that the information stored in a database has to
continue to exist even after the application(s) that saved and manipulated the data have
ceased to run. A database also has to provide some uniform methods that are not
dependent on a specific application for accessing the information that is stored inside the
database.

This is a pretty liberal definition of a database. Lotus Notes calls its message stores
"databases", and by this definition they qualify. MUMPS calls its associative storage a
database, and while it takes a bit of a stretch, even that meets this definition. There are a
number of new database technologies that include object-oriented databases and
associative databases, and they seem to qualify as databases under this definition too.

Text or flat binary files don't qualify as databases under this definition, since only the
application that created one of these files knows enough about the file's contents to make
use of the information stored within the file. They meet the persistence part of the DBMS
definition, but not the independent access part of the definition.

Other "standards" like the Berkeley DB format supported by Perl, Python, and related
languages do more or less qualify as a DBMS. While it isn't what most people think of
when they think about DBMS setups, it does meet both the persistence and uniform
access conditions for a DBMS.

An RDBMS is a Relational Data Base Management System. This adds the additional
condition that the system supports a tabular structure for the data, with enforced
relationships between the tables. This excludes the databases that I've listed so far since
they either don't support a tabular structure at all, or don't enforce relationships between
tables.

Microsoft's Jet database engine qualifies as an RDBMS under this definition, even though
it seems like the majority of its users ignore the "relational" side of the engine by failing
to declare foreign keys. Individual FoxPro files do not qualify because they don't have
any built-in method for declaring or supporting relationships, even though nearly every
FoxPro system I've ever seen expects or relies on these relationships.

Most DBAs think of an RDBMS as a client/server system. The database engine runs on a
server, and client applications connect and request data from the server. Microsoft SQL
Server, Oracle, DB2 (both the Z series and the UDB product), and most of the other
"industrial grade" databases in use today use this mental model.

No discussion of RDBMS would be complete without mentioning "An Introduction to

Database Systems" by Chris Date. This is the present incarnation of the book that
originally defined the Relational Model as Edgar F. Codd defined it. You can read more
at the Learning Zone.
A database has to be persistent, meaning that the information stored in a database has to
continue to exist even after the application(s) that saved and manipulated the data have
ceased to run. A database also has to provide some uniform methods that are not
dependent on a specific application for accessing the information that is stored inside the
database.

An RDBMS is a Relational Data Base Management System. This adds the additional
condition that the system supports a tabular structure for the data, with enforced
relationships between the tables.

The main advantage of an RDBMS is that it checks for referential integrity (relationship
between related records using Foreign Keys). You can set the constraints in an RDMBS
such that when a particular record is changed, related records are updated/deleted
automatically

1)rdbms is object based database management system while dbms

2)rdbms can maintain at many users at same time while dbms not

2)in rdbms is relation is more important than object itself

while dbms entity is more important

Functionality wise there is no much difference between DBMS and RDBMS. So the
basic functionality remains the same.. i.e. both enabling the storing and retrieving the
data effectively..
However RDBMS has an edge over DBMS with the mechanisms it provides in storing
and retrieval.
RDBMS leads DBMS in
-Security wise RDBMS are better.
- Is used in large organizations where in it would be necessary to store large amount of
data.
- has quick retrieval mechanisms

DBMS:
-is used in smaller organizations where in security of it is not of much importance.

Simply RDBMS is an computer based data base and DBMS is a manual like data base
just to collect data for a entity. RDBMS depends on relationship between entities...

In DBMS there is no relation among various tables, each table is a separate entity,
In RDBMS there is relation among various tables and several constraints like foreign key
constraint can be applied which simplifies the table structures, attributes can be
referenced from another table without repeating them.