William Cooper's Mystery Babylon: Part 21 William Morgan Interview, Part II

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Tonight's episode: part two of the interview with William Morgan, CAJI member. W
e have infiltrated the lodge, folks. Hear it yourself from the lips of a 32nd de
gree Freemason of the Scottish Rite of the Southern Jurisdiction.

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nce by U2, taken from the film [i]Rattle and Hum[/i]?)

Well, as you probably already know, folks, we only use the very best music on th
is program, the Hour of the Time. That was U2 and [i]I Still Haven't Found What
I'm Looking For[/i]. You know, many of you write and ask why I let the music go
on through the whole selection instead of fading it out and then bringing in the
program. And I do that, folks, out of sincere admiration and respect for the ta
lent and the performance of the writer of the music, the lyrics, and, of course,
those who perform. I love music, if you haven't guessed that already.
Tonight is part two of our interview with William Morgan, and many of you are wo
ndering if that's his real name. No, it is not. We protect CAJI members. We neve
r tell anyone how many CAJI members we have, we're they're at, what their names
are, anything. None of that information is given out, not even to other CAJI mem
bers. Now, we use the code name, or the pseudonym, of William Morgan, simply bec
ause the name William Morgan is significant in the past of the (laughs) secret s
ociety called Freemasonry. William Morgan was murdered by Freemasons after havin
g revealed, printed in a book, some of the secrets of the lodge, and this was do
ne back in the 1800s. Of course, the fraternity of Freemasons denies they murder
ed William Morgan. However, their version differs significantly from the officia
l version and from the proof and the evidence that we have spent many, many hund
reds of man-hours digging up, and one of these nights we're going to do a progra
m just entirely on the murder of William Morgan.
[William Cooper (WC)]: Will, welcome back to the Hour of the Time.
[William Morgan (WM)]: Thank you, Bill. It's a pleasure to be here, and I'm real
ly proud and happy to be here, and doing what I'm doing.
[WC]: You know, I don't think a lot of people realize that you're risking your l
ife by doing this. The oaths that you have taken, albeit, because they were frau
dulent. You thought that you were making an oath to the God of the Bible and, in
fact, you were making an oath to Lucifer, which nullifies those oaths. But they
still, the Brotherhood, the Order, the Illuminati, the Freemasons, could still
carry out the threat of those oaths, which is murder, is that not correct?
[WM]: Absolutely correct. No matter what I may personally feel about it, or what
common law or the actual law may view about those oaths [I've] taken, the Mason
s that are involved consider them to be absolutely applicable to any transgressi
on. And they have been enforced, and the bloody punishments that are part of the
oaths have happened to Masons before, and they will happen again, I'm sure.
[WC]: Now, you are what degree? Let's get that out to the people in case we have
some new listeners tonight. What degree are you?
[WM]: I am a 32nd degree Freemason of the Scottish Rite of the Southern Jurisdic
tion of the United States.
[WC]: And what is the official title of that degree?
[WM]: The official title is "The Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret," and that i
s not only the title of the degree, it's also the title of the ritual that the d
egree is conferred to. And just to show you how important that is, after going t
hrough the ritual and getting the degree conferred upon me, I could not remember
anything sublime or, even remember what the secret was that they told me. (laug
hs)
[WC]: Why is it that you couldn't remember the secrets of the degree?
[WM]: Well, um, that's a bit of a long story and I won't go entirely into it, bu
t it started off the day I was conferred began at six o'clock in the morning, an
d they just rush through it. There's no memory work to do as in the Blue Lodge,
where a person has to memorize the ritual and then give it back. You just sit th
ere and received, in an audience-like capacity. And when it came to swearing the
oath, you merely held up your hand and said, "I do." You also did take that oat
h on kneeling on one knee, as you did in the blue lodge.
[WC]: Now, we talked yesterday after we aired the, after we recorded the last pr
ogram that aired, I believe Friday on WRNO. And this will air Monday on WRNO. It
will air at a different date on WWCR. So, if you're listening on WWCR, don't le
t these dates confuse you. But we talked and I asked you specifically if there w
as a part of Freemasonry where you raised your arm to the square, and what was y
our reply?
[WM]: Yes, there is a part where you raise your arm to the square. The first tim
e I remember doing that action was in the second degree when it was conferred up
on me. You raise your right hand as if you're swearing in...actually, it's exact
ly the same position as if you were swearing in a court of law. Your left hand i
s placed flatly upon the Holy Bible, or whatever holy text that depend [sic] on
the lodge you're in, and your right hand is held at a right angle with the arm e
xtended. And they...an actual square, like an engineer square, is held around th
e elbow of the arm. That's...you're swearing in a square within a square, so to
speak, as the ritual says.
[WC]: Now, if a Freemason were speaking in front of a group of what Masons call
"the profane," would it be fair to state that, if the speaker stated something a
bout when he raised his arm to the square, that this could be a recognition sign
al to notify other Freemasons in the audience that was indeed a Freemason?
[WM]: Knowing what I know, I could hardly see it as anything else. There's no sq
uare involved in any other oath swearing ceremony that I ever heard of, ever...n
ot in a court of law, only a square is involved in Masonry. It's one of the, uh,
it's one of the primary tools that are symbolically referred to in all the ritu
al of the Blue Lodge.
[WC]: Now, many of you heard this, this statement made by someone that you all l
istened to, and I want you to make that connection for yourselves. If you can't
make that connection for yourself, then there's no need telling you any more abo
ut it anyway. Let's get into some of the ceremonies. How does this start? It beg
ins in the Blue Lodge with the first degree of Entered Apprentice, and it goes u
p, and you've actually traversed thirty-two degrees of initiation. Are there sid
e roads off of this?
[WM]: Um, yeah...well, it's a bit difficult. The Blue Lodge is where everything
begins, and the Blue Lodge where a Mason is initiated at is called the mother lo
dge from that time after in specific reference to him personally. Now, once you
get passed the third degree and become a Master Mason in your Blue Lodge, you ar
e able to hold an officer, or hold a chair as an officer inside the lodge, and y
ou can spend up to ten years going through the chairs and become an officer. But
after that, you can either go to the Scottish Rite or the Yorkish Rite. There's
a fork in the road of Freemasonry, and the Scottish Rite is by far the most pop
ular and, undoubtedly, the most powerful.
[WC]: Now, the York Rite is...has seven degrees, is that true?
[WM]: True, the highest of which being the Knight Templar degree. For all those
people out there who think that the Knights Templar is no way associated with Ma
sons, you're dead wrong and you haven't done your homework.
[WC]: In fact, the Knights Templar, when they first began as an organization on
the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, were not an order commissioned or ordained or app
roved or even recognized by any church, much less the Catholic church, but were,
in fact, an order of the Mysteries. They began with seven degrees, and the seve
nth degree was the highest degree. And later, as they added degrees, when the Kn
ights Templar were persecuted and, in fact, many of them were put to death, othe
rs were driven into hiding in other countries, and, in some other countries, the
y just changed their names and continued the order. And they eventually reached
a number of degrees which was thirty-three. And I took that right out of a very
old textbook on the secret societies, which we'll talk about in a later program,
and we'll get into that. But what is the significance that you've been told of
the system of degrees? Why do you have to go through this?
[WM]: It's considered a road, it's considered a road to "illumination." I really
believe that it's more a system of control and self-government. Lodges are pret
ty unique in America, in that they are self-sustaining and self-governing, even
with their own bit of enforcement. All lodges have been granted a charter from a
Grand Lodge, and every Grand Lodge in this country has been granted a charter f
rom the United States government to operate on its own and enforce its own laws
and constitutions. If a police officer or any law enforcement officer walks into
a lodge while in session, not only does he not have arrest power, but that lodg
e immediately closes.
[WC]: Now, this is something the American people don't know about. Now, if these
are lodges, they're in states, they have nothing to do with the federal governm
ent, how can they receive a charter from the federal government saying that they
're under their own laws, and how it could be the law enforcement officer would
not have the authority to arrest, or any of his other authorized duties, in a Fr
eemasonic lodge?
[WM]: It beats the hell out of me, Bill. It's really a bit of a contradiction in
terms. You have a government that is actually gone out and given government-typ
e status to a completely and secret [sic], and I think subversive, organization
right under its own nose. A similar thing can be seen in the Mormon church and i
n other secret societies that are not nearly so famous as Freemasonry itself. Th
e government has, by granting this charter, I believe undermined its own stabili
ty as a functioning organization.
[WC]: Well, tell us about this charter. Tell us again what you said before. I do
n't want anyone to miss this because it's very important. It shows how a secret
government can be formed, it tell us that these members of these secret societie
s literally have diplomatic immunity and can get away with whatever they want to
get away with. Not only that, but they have their members sitting in the most p
owerful posts, both within society on local levels and local cities, local count
ies and state governments, in the higher echelons of the military, and they perm
eate all the positions of control within the bureaucracy of the federal governme
nt. So tell us what this charter is for?
[WM]: OK, it is a...it's a document, put out by the federal government, and it c
an be any government in the world. To my knowledge, every government in the worl
d that [granted?] has lodges in it, has granted a sovereign charter to the Grand
Lodges under its jurisdiction. I really haven't done enough research to speak a
t length on the nature of the charter, or what it exactly implies universally fo
r Freemasonry, but I do know for a fact that a law enforcement officer--and we h
ave many law enforcement officers in our lodge, from state troopers to policemen
to military policemen--that they're not cops when they walked into a lodge. The
y leave their power, their badges and their guns outside, and they do so willing
ly. That's a pretty good example, but I think the best example comes from the Kn
ights of Malta, and here's another one for you guys out there that haven't done
your homework. I'm reading from the glossary of a book, entitled [i]Freemasonry:
A Celebration of the Craft[/i], which is put out by the Craft itself, and it de
fines Knights of Malta as a Christian, Masonic degree, based upon the medieval K
nights Hospitallers, emphasizing the Christian values, the Christian virtues. (l
aughs) You can leave the Christian out of it if you'd like, but what's interesti
ng about the Knights of Malta is they actually do have diplomatic immunity as an
organization. They can bring goods in and out of this country without going thr
ough customs, and they cannot be arrested or they cannot be detained or charged
with any crime by any law enforcement officer in the country. They are...they're
above sovereign. As far as I know, they're above most government officials in t
he land.
[WC]: That's a fact, and they actually carry diplomatic passports. I know severa
l people personally who are members of the Knights, the Sovereign Order of the M
ilitary Knights of Malta, and they carry diplomatic passports and are...they beg
an as citizens of the United States of America. Now, what happens when a police
officer, and most police officers, we have discovered, or at least the ones who
make law enforcement a career, and most, if not all, judges sitting upon benches
in this country are Freemasons. What happens when you're speeding down a highwa
y and you're stopped by a law enforcement officer...what happens when he sees th
e Masonic emblem on your windshield?
[WM]: Usually what you have is a direct turnaround in attitude. I, myself, am a
young man. I get hassled by cops a little bit. It seems like they always cop an
attitude when they pulled me over. But when they see the Masonic square and comp
ass on my car, and most importantly, when I flip out my dues paying card, a card
that all dues paying Masons carry, the police officer...well, let me just put i
t this way, I've never once got a speeding ticket or a traffic ticket or have ev
en been harassed in any way when they have known that I am a Mason. It just has
not happened. That is my personal experience.
[WC]: So the justice system in this country doesn't really work, and Freemasons
are, in effect, exempt from the laws that the rest of us are supposed to follow,
is that true?
[WM]: (laughs) Yeah, that could be probably construed as accurate, Bill, althoug
h I disagree...it does work, it just doesn't work the way most people think it w
orks (laughs). It works for them and with them and around them, and it works on
the rest of you.
[WC]: That's right. Now, what happens when a Freemason goes into court against s
omeone who is not a Freemason, and the judge is a Freemason?
[WM]: OK, well, you have a very subtle interaction that goes on. All Masons are
taught secret signs and secret words and secret phrases by...and this is some of
the most...this is what they don't want revealed more than anything else. You c
an stand in a particular position, you can hold your arms in a particular positi
on, you can speak certain words, the "widow's son", "traveling man", key phrases
to let this judge know that you are a Mason. And you can almost guarantee the M
ason are else he wouldn't be able to lock down a lasting career in the judiciary
.
[WC]: That's correct, and that would explain why some people just don't seem to
ever get prosecuted for anything, and others, who may commit the same crime or a
much lesser offense seem to be inordinately punished, given such a heavy burden
of punishment, while others who have done the same thing receive either nothing
or a pat of the wrist.
[WM]: Well, brothers look out for each other. It's just the way the system works
. It's a buddy system, it's a "you scratch my back, I scratch yours"...as a matt
er of fact, in the oath that a Mason swears, he swears that he will uphold and d
efend a Mason, a fellow Mason in any problem that he may encounter; treason and
murder alone excepted, but they [left at their] election, which means even if a
fellow Mason is a traitor to his country--we know that could never happen--(laug
hs) he's a traitor to his country, his brother Mason has his own choice whether
he wants to turn him in or not. He is not obligated to do so and, obeying the la
ws of Masonry above the laws of the land, he's probably not going to even consid
er it.
[WC]: So, in other words, one way of infiltrated and controlling our society and
our government, both on a local, state and national level, and the military, is
for one of the Freemasons to get into a position where he can then appoint or h
ire Freemasons below him. When people come to apply for that job, who gets the j
ob?
[WM]: That's self-explanatory, the Mason'll get the job every time. Another part
of the oath is that you will look out for the interest of your brother Masons i
n whatever capacity they may be in. In fact, it could probably be construed that
not giving the job to a Mason would bring serious repercussions if discovered i
nside the lodge. It may even be a violation of the oath.
[WC]: There you go, folks. All of you who have been telling me that I'm full of
crap, and that I don't know what I'm talking about and that they haven't infiltr
ated and appointed their members below them and literally taken over all [levels
] of society, both local, state, and federal and the military...you just heard i
t from the lips of a 32nd degree Freemason. That is exactly how they do it and t
hat is exactly what has been done. You have to understand that, since this count
ry was conceived and brought into reality, Freemasons have controlled it. And th
eir goal, always, from the beginning, was to bring about a one-world totalitaria
n Socialist government. Our forefathers knew full well the foibles of human natu
re, and this country was described, in their own words, as the Great Experiment.
And the experiment, folks, was to find out if we truly could be responsible, co
uld rule ourselves, would not give in to the foibles of human nature and give ou
r country and our individual freedoms and rights away. But they knew when they d
id it that that's exactly what would happen, because they were, they were probab
ly the best at understanding human nature of anyone that I've ever read, and I h
ave read all of their writings, letters and works, and the Federalist papers and
everything else that they've done. And they knew full well that this people wou
ld give away what they built. And they knew that if we could be responsible, if
we would not be apathetic, if we would not cave in to the desires of Socialism,
to the weaknesses of human nature, that this would have been the New World Order
. [i]We[/i] have failed, not them. They gave us every chance, folks, so don't ge
t mad at our forefathers. Is this...would you concur with what I just said?
[WM]: I couldn't argue with you and I wouldn't want to start an argument with yo
u, Bill. I have heard high level Masons refer to the United States, in their wri
tings and in person, as a "Mason nation," [that] is erected by them, if you look
at the signers of the Declaration of Independence, if you look at the forefathe
rs, you'll see who was involved at the very beginning of this thing. And I'm not
saying that all our forefathers were bad or evil, they certainly are not. They
created the greatest nation ever known to man. But some of them were Illuminati,
and there's just no denying that. The course that they set us upon was, in the
end, self-defeating for us.
[WC]: OK, folks, don't go away. We've got to take our break. I'm be right back w
ith William Morgan after this very short pause.

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reedence Clearwater Revival)

[WC]: Creedence Clearwater Revival. Before you accuse me, you better look at you
rself. (laughs) Oh boy, does that apply to this program, you Freemasons out ther
e. All members of all the secret societies that is subverting the Constitution o
f the United States, the Bill of Rights...I call them cockroaches, I don't know
what the rest of you call them, but that's what they are. They claim to be looki
ng for the light, but every time you turn the light on them, they scurry under t
he sink...run for cover. You know, it occurs to me that I need to tell you folks
 out there something. This young man on this program is a member of the Citizens
Agency for Joint Intelligence, and there are literally hundreds of brave men an
d women all over this country and the world who are gathering information, bring
ing the truth out into the open. We are all working for freedom. It's the larges
t and most successful civilian intelligence gathering organization in the world.
And our goal is freedom, to preserve freedom in this country, the United States
, preserve the Constitution and the Bill of Rights because it's the last bastion
, the last wall between us and freedom, and try to institute freedom in all of t
he rest of the world. That's our only purpose, our only purpose. We are in suppo
rt of freedom for all peoples, all peoples everywhere. This young man on this sh
ow has risked his life to tell you what he's telling you tonight, and if his ide
ntity were ever to be discovered, he could be murdered by the secret societies t
hat he is revealing. He is one of my heroes. Most of the people in CAJI who are
helping us to do this, most of them are working in intense, secret and dangerous
situations. We have people who have infiltrated Satanic organizations and are f
eeding us the information on their rituals and who they are and what they're all
about. And the instant that they were to be discovered, they would be murdered.
You don't seem to understand that this organization that I built, the Citizens
Agency for Joint Intelligence, is vital, is vital to the freedom of the United S
tates of America and to the world. The governmental intelligence agencies are in
the control of the secret societies and are not working on our behalf and never
have been, folks. I hope you understand that. Let's go back to Will. You've got
something in front of you, and I believe it's a list of Freemasons throughout h
istory that people would recognize their names, and if they don't readily recogn
ize their names, they could go to any reference book and find these names and th
eir biographies in any library. Would you like to tell our listening audience wh
o some of these people are?
[WM]: Yeah, there's some names you'll really recognize, here. But before I do, l
et me thank you, Bill Cooper, for reminding me that my [i]brothers[/i] might mur
der me just for telling the truth. Um, here's one: Colonel Buzz Aldrin, Simon Bo
nner(?), Omar Bradley, Edmund Burke, Richard Byrd, Kit Carson, Walter Chrysler,
"Buffalo Bill" Cody, Ty Cobb, Winston Churchill, the list just goes on and on...
Gordon Cooper, Edwin Drake, Jack Dempsey, Cecil B. DeMille...
[WC]: You know, you mention Winston Churchill, and one of the things that the li
stening audience does not know is that not only was Winston Churchill was a Free
mason, but so was Harry Truman, and so was Mr. [Joseph] Stalin. So, when they ha
d their meeting at Yalta, here was [sic] three 33rd degree Freemasons deciding t
he fate of the world. And for all of you who couldn't figure out why they made t
he decisions that they made at Yalta that so screwed up the world, now you know.
Please continue.
[WM]: (laughs) Thanks, Bill. Yeah, they should have just held that Yalta meeting
in a lodge and been open about it. OK, here's some more for us: Duke Ellington,
Henry Ford, Benjamin Franklin, Clark Gable, John Glenn, [inaudible], Richard Ga
tling, inventor of the Gatling gun, Samuel Gompers, Prince Hall, Manly Palmer [H
all]...oh yeah, Joseph Guillotine, who invented the Guillotine, who we'll be see
ing that more later [sic]. Oh boy, (laughs) there's just simply not time...Edgar
Hoover, Sam Houston...
[WC]: For those of you who did not understand his reference to "we'll be seeing
more of the Guillotine later," when the New World Order actually succeeds in tak
ing control of the world, executions will be public, and the secret societies be
lieve in blood atonement. In other words, you can only atone for your wrongdoing
by your works, or by the shedding of your blood, blood atonement. So, in these
public executions, there will have to be the maximum amount of blood, public exe
cutions will be held as a object lesson to the rest of the population not to opp
ose the New World Order, for it is the most terrible, terrifying experience to s
ee someone literally beheaded. It is intended to cow everyone else, and is, in f
act, will be, in fact, a ritualistic sacrifice to the god of the secret societie
s who, we all now know, is Lucifer, also known as Satan.
[WM]: Yeah, you know, Bill, it just dawned on me just what a fun guy you really
are! (laughs) Here's a short list of presidents of the United States who have be
en Masons: George Washington, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, James Polk, James Bu
chanan, Andrew Johnson, James Garfield, William McKinley, Teddy Roosevelt, Willi
am Taft, Warren Harding, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Geral
d Ford, and I also know for a fact that George Bush is a Mason and that Ronald R
eagan was made a Mason on sight. (laughs) Like I said, the list goes on and on,
and these are not even a partial, partial, fraction of a percent of the famous M
asons that have existed throughout history.
[WC]: Well, John Wayne was Mason, wasn't he?
[WM]: "The Duke." "The Duke" was a Freemason, absolutely true.
[WC]: And, you know, we're not in any way belittling the accomplishments or the
contributions to society of any of these people. We just wanted to let you know
that his covers all areas of society, all levels of society, all occupations, an
d that many famous people whom you all recognize have been...are members of thes
e secret societies. Now, many of them are taken in as window-dressing; in other
words, they don't really know what they are a part of. They're told that it's a
fraternal organization existing for the good of the community, and of course, in
any organization, if you can get famous celebrities to belong, it's a feather i
n your cap because the public, for some reason, thinks that if a celebrity belon
gs to something, than there could be nothing wrong with it. What sheeple! What,
what total crap! But that's the way people believe.
[WM]: That's absolutely true. Most of the celebrity names that I mentioned in th
is list are there just simply as window-dressing, to give a good appearance to t
he Craft. But some of them absolutely are not, and I'm reading from this book, p
ublished by a Mason publishing company, and it states that Joseph Smith, founder
of the Mormon church, was absolutely and undeniably a Freemason.
[WC]: Did you find Giuseppe Mazzini in there?
[WM]: Yeah, I sure did, I did my homework. Giuseppe Mazzini, 1805-1872, Italian
patriot.
[WC]: He was also one of the best friends and corespondents of Albert Pike, who
was the head of world Freemasonry for a while, and the head of the Scottish Rite
of Freemasonry in this country. He established, with others, the Ku Klux Klan,
the branch of Freemasonry known as B'nai B'rith, which the ADL operates out of,
and the ADL, folks, for those of you who don't know it, are under intense invest
igation now for spying upon agencies and departments of the United States govern
ment and police departments, and actually stealing records and passing them on t
o the secret societies and to the state of Israel. So, you really better wake up
out there, and don't give me this stuff that it's the Jews, that it's the black
s, it's this, it's that. It's not. It's not. Ordinary people like you and me, I
don't care what their skin color is, I don't care what their religion is, are ju
st like you and me and all they want to do is live in peace. There are elements
in organizations and people belonging to all the different ethnic groups, all of
the different religions, all of the different organizations, corporations, gove
rnments, anything that you want to name, belong to these secret societies. The J
ews have been used as scapegoats throughout history. The Freemasonic organizatio
n, and the secret societies in general, are racist. They believe that the races,
the white Caucasian races in Europe and Germany, England, are the superior race
, or the real Israelites. They are the ones who have orchestrated and brought ab
out the state of Israel. They are the ones who maintain the force of Zionism, ac
tive in the world. The Mormon church is a great part of this. I mean, if you jus
t give down and dirty on this, you'll find that what I'm telling you is absolute
ly true. And one of their main weapons that they use against us to divide us aga
inst each other, so that while we're running around stabbing each other in the b
ack, they are putting the chains on all of us. And when you are people going to
realize that and understand it? All during the Cold War, there were no Russian f
amilies sitting around their table plotting on how to do away with Americans, an
d they're weren't any Americans doing that, either. All of us were concerned wit
h our children, with putting food on the table, with educating our children, wit
h trying to build some kind of good life. That's all that ordinary people care a
bout. It doesn't matter what race they belong to, what religion they belong to..
.
[WM]: Bravo, Bill. If there's a lesson that the listeners can go home with, that
is...it's that, stop this racist divisionism, come together and see the enemy f
or who it is. I should...like I said on your program, you cannot be...you cannot
enjoy the protection of the secret societies forever. With a little bit of home
work, you can find out how financed Hitler in World War II. And, anybody that ha
d knows [sic] history knows that as soon as Hitler got to where he was at in pow
er [sic], who did he initiate a [power grab] against? It wasn't just Jews. He go
t rid of all the Freemasons who were the window-dressing in German and in Austri
a, who put him in where he was at and protected his interests...he zapped them.
He nuked them. They were gone, they joined the Jews and gypsies in the concentra
tion camps and they were never heard from again. And to this day, many German Fr
eemasons wear a small flower on their lapel in remembrance of that tragic event.
You cannot enjoy that protection forever. You are doomed to fail if you depend
on these people for your life.
[WC]: That's correct. Now remember, the primary method they use is this: conflic
t creates change. They create the conflict that they know will bring about the s
olution that they want. They get it to appear as if the people are screaming for
the solution, and then they give it to them. Something that the people would ne
ver accept it in the first place. But remember, conflict creates change. They be
lieve in the Hegelian principle of conflict resolution. You have a thesis, an an
tithesis, and these...the clash of these two creates the solution to the problem
, which they've been aiming for all along. Now, you also have to understand that
[i]controlled[/i] conflict creates desired results, or change. So, the method b
ringing about controlled conflict is to have your people leading both sides of t
he conflict. So, when you talk about Republican or Democrat, forget it! At the h
ighest level, they're both the same. When you talk about Populist versus Communi
st, or whatever it is, forget it! At the highest level, they all belong to the s
ame organization. When you look around in the Patriot movement, remember, most o
f the leaders in the Patriot movement are on the same side, and belong to the sa
me organizations, as the leaders of the secret societies that are trying to dest
roy this country. The conflict between the two, which are trying to create now,
will ensure the destruction of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and then th
ey will step forward with the answer: a thousand-years of peace under the United
Nations. But you're going to have to make concessions to get it. You're going t
o have to give up your freedoms, your individual rights, but they will protect y
ou. If you buy that, folks, you are indeed a fool. Does this confirm what you've
discovered in your quest for the truth?
[WM]: It certainly does, it is history repeating itself with empty promises of a
Nirvana and Utopia on earth that has never come true, and they always have to b
e the one to pay for it. Always. These people do not believe in a fair fight. Th
ey do not join a race that they have not fixed. They don't take those kinds of r
isks.
[WC]: You've got about ten seconds. If you had the ability to say something to t
he American people, and to the world, what would it be?
[WM]: It would be to wake up, folks. Look, you've got an enemy out there that ar
e coming together. There's a convention of Southern Baptists that have come agai
nst the Freemasons, meeting in Houston in 15th, 16th, 17th June of this year [si
c]. I suggest that you look into that.
[WC]: That's right, folks, and good night. Thank you, Will, for being our specia
l guest, for putting yourself in danger for all of the rest of our freedoms, for
freedom of the world. I, for one, appreciate that. You are my hero.
Good night, and may God bless you all.

(closing music: [i]Walk on the Water[/i], performed by Creedence Clearwater Revi

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