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I'm William Cooper and you're listening to the Hour of the Time....
Tonight, episode number 21 in our series of Mystery Babylon, and the third hour
of interview with William Morgan.
(opening music: [i]I Can See Clearly Now[/i], performed live by Liza Minnelli)
[WC]: Welcome back to the Hour of the Time. Will, you got something there that y
ou want to say, I think.
[WM]: Uh, yeah, I just...I'd like to give a little message to my brother Masons
out there. I know that all those who are listening are thinking some pretty hard
thoughts about me. You're thinking things like I'm a traitor to the Craft. Well
, I'm thinking that you're a traitor to your country. And if you think I've betr
ayed my brothers, I feel that you have betrayed me with your deception. If you b
elieve that I have broken my oaths--and even if those oaths are valid, something
I do not believe; I think they're null and void--well, then I just have to say
that so what? We all got to go, and my brothers can go quietly into slavery, liv
ing a lie and burying their heads in the sand, or you can go like a man, squarel
y facing the truth, and fighting for freedom. I honestly believe this and I hone
stly believe that the whole nature of the craft is sinister.
[WC]: Wow, that's...that's quite a statement there, and I certainly admire you f
or saying that. I had no idea that you were going to do that, in fact. You showe
d me the piece of paper just as the music was beginning to fade out, and indicat
ed to me that you wanted to say something, so...yeah, wow, that's pretty good. U
m, OK, let's get on into the rest of the program. What are some of the...are the
re other signs and symbols that the secret societies, Freemasons in general, use
to identify themselves to each other?
[WM]: I have never been a member of any other secret society besides Freemasonry
, and (laughs) much to my joy and to your good fortune out there, I have already
told you most of the secrets that are protected by the Craft, as far as the com
mon laymen of the Craft will know, with the exception of one, and that is concer
ning Hiram Abiff, who is a bit of a patron saint, I guess, of Freemasonry, someb
ody they pulled from the Bible and turned into a character to give meaning to th
eir ritual. When two Masons come together, one of the easiest ways that they'll
come to know each other, without having to shake hands, hug in the middle of the
street, or do a little foot dance or whatever kind of nonsense that they're doi
ng out there. They'll just come up and say, "Well hi, Hiram, how're you doing?",
or "Hello, Mr. Abiff." Or if you want to catch a Mason on the phone, you just t
ell them H. Abiff is calling and believe me, you'll get service right away!
[WC]: Well, that's good to know. We can certainly use information like that. But
we know that some of the signals...symbols, signals and signs used in the Mason
ic order were also used by the Knights Templars and others. So, this didn't come
strictly from this one society, but literally they are all one. What are some o
f the vocal signals out there - the speech, what words besides Hiram Abiff? What
else would you say to someone to illicit whether or not they were, in fact, Fre
emasons?
[WM]: One of them that I've also come across--and I've seen this in writing, and
it was a bit of a mystery to me until I sought some advice about it. They'll as
k each other if they're a, if they're a traveling man, and what they mean by--an
d this comes directly from the old Templar ritual, and it stands as a positive f
actual link of the continuity between ancient secret societies and modern Freema
sonry, is they'll ask if they're a traveling man, and the meaning behind that is
one traveling from west to east, east being the source of knowledge.
[WC]: Or illumination. It's also the point where the sun rises, which goes back
to the first religion which was cosmology, where all of these religions and secr
et societies sprang from, which was the worship of the sun, the source of illumi
nation, the source of warmth, the source of all life, the source of everything,
rises in the east [sic] every morning. And is, in fact, (laughs) for those who r
eally understand, the morning star. Is that not correct?
[WM]: Absolutely, and that's gives a great illumination (laughs), if I may say s
o, as to why the Worshipful Master sits in the east of the lodge. And also, why
during the ritual, when a young unknowing Freemason like myself is brought in an
d has a degree conferred upon him, he circumnavigates--that is, he walks around
in a circle--from all the points of the Lodge, going from the Worshipful Master
in the east to the Junior Ward in the south to the Senior Ward in the west and t
hen back to Master in the east. He is traveling as the earth travels around the
sun, in a circle of worship, and it might even be a direct reference to Solomon'
s circle, and [as] you've told me yourself, Bill, about the traveling man, that
too [is] been used by Communists, hadn't it?
[WC]: Yes, in fact, if anyone who knows anything about the Internationale, or th
e secret society known as The International, the Internationale Communist party,
the international Socialists, Socialism, if you've study them, the same passwor
ds are used by them. All of these organizations are one. Socialism stems from th
e Mystery Schools. That's where it comes from. You'll find that most of the Myst
ery Schools preach the tenets of the [i]Communist Manifesto[/i], written by Karl
Marx and Friedrich Engels whom, by the way, didn't just wrote it [sic], they we
re the hacks who fronted for it. They did not make it up. It came out of ancient
documents and an ancient philosophy. And the password is the same: "Are you a t
raveling man?" And that's how Communists identify themselves to each other from
cell to cell and country to country and kept their business secret. And I got th
at straight out of the files of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in their inv
estigations of the Internationale, The International, the Communist party, inter
national Socialism. They're all the same: Freemasonry, the Knights of Malta, the
Rose and Cross, they're all the same organization, folks. And remember, one of
their tenets is...and, in fact, Adam Weishaupt said this, "The strength of our O
rder lies in its concealment," in its many different names, appearing under many
different names and many different occupations, sometimes even appearing to opp
ose ourselves. But at the highest levels, they are all the same because they use
the system to coerce the people to go along what they want [sic]. If they want
to change something in a certain direction, they'll look at the population, the
society, the problems that exist, and they will intentionally create, foment a p
roblem in order to get the people to cry for an answer to that problem which wil
l be the direction they want to take that society into. They will create two opp
osing groups. At the top of these two opposing groups will be their people so th
at it's a controlled conflict bringing about a controlled resolution, or a contr
olled, a desired end. And (laughs) you guys better wake up to this, I am telling
you, you better wake up to it, you better pay attention to what you're hearing
here. You better realize that this young man sitting next to me is a hero. He's
risking his life to bring you this information, as are many other people operati
ng out of the public eye. You may never, ever in your life know who they are. Th
ey're working to save your freedoms for you. And sometimes I have to sit back an
d [inaudible] why are we all doing this, why am I doing this, why is he doing th
is, why are all these people doing this when most of you out there sit back and
do nothing? I have people write me letters and say, "I don't want to be in your
mailing list because somebody might get your mailing list and they might know wh
o I am." I've had other people write and say, "What is that symbol that's over y
our name when you sign your name on your documents? That's the sign of something
evil and I don't want to be a part of your organization." That's fine with me,
folks. To tell you what that this, for those who are interested, that's a chop.
It was given to me as a gift by the head of the accounting department of the las
t college where I was the executive director. She was Chinese, went home to Hong
Kong for Christmas, and brought that back for me. That's the way the Chinese pe
ople sign their name. It literally means, "the director," the boss. And I've use
d it ever since because, it's...I like it, and I liked her and it was a gift. An
d it personalizes my signature, it's means nothing more or less than that. But y
ou are right in asking, but you are wrong in assuming and making assumptions. Yo
u're also wrong in hiding. I want you to read my lips: New World Order. There's
no place you can hide unless you can get off this planet. And forget about alien
s bringing all this stuff about. The only people you have to fear are humans (la
ughs). And being afraid is not going to solve our problems, because fear itself
is a weapon that they use against us. So...I mean, why, if the majority of peopl
e are sheeple and aren't going to help save their own butts, why should you be d
oing this to save them, Will? Why are you doing this?
[WM]: I have a very, very easy answer for your question, and you already know th
e answer. It's obvious that you're doing this for the sake of your audience. Whe
never you look at your daughter...whenever I look at my family, whenever I slap
my dog upside the head, that's why I doing it. Because I love people in this wor
ld, and I love my people, and my people are not going to be safe until I can mak
e this world safe. I see them in direct danger, and I'd like to say, Bill, you h
ave a wonderful way of cutting right to the heart of many matters. You're right
about the continuity of the secret societies. They are all one, and I'm here to
tell you...he did not just flip through a few books and see a couple of things a
nd say, "OK, they're all one, they're all evil." It's not that easy, folks. You
have to read and research, and research, and [i]research[/i] and investigate eve
ry single corner [of this], and believe me, if it [i]looks[/i] like a snake, and
it [i]slithers[/i] like snake, and it [i]hisses[/i] like snake...well, hell, go
ahead and step on its head, because it's a snake!
[WC]: And, uh...(laughs), well, it [i]is[/i] a snake! (laughs) And if we go righ
t to the philosophy of all of these secret societies, is that man was held priso
ner in the Garden of Eden by an unjust, vindictive God; that he was denied his o
wn chance to become a god, and that Lucifer, through his agent, Satan, set man f
ree with the gift of intellect, the gift of knowledge. And with that knowledge,
man himself can become god. Remember, the promise that Satan made to Eve was tha
t God was lying to them. That if they did indeed eat of the fruit of the tree of
knowledge, they would become gods. Don't ever forget that. Those who say they a
re god, those who say they're going to become god, the members of the secret soc
ieties, the Mormon church, others who profess this belief, are practicing the Lu
ciferian philosophy. They deserted the real true God, and they are following the
fallen angel of light, Lucifer, Satan--who's not a god at all. They have all be
en deceived. If you are one of them, remember: we don't hate you, we are not try
ing to hurt you. If you want to continue to practice your religion, that is OK w
ith me, and any true person who is an American and [who believes] in the Constit
ution. It is only when you practice your religion with the aim of taking away [i
]my[/i] freedoms and forcing [i]me[/i] to practice your religion under a new wor
ld totalitarian Socialist government, which you intend to bring about, that it b
ecomes not only becomes my business, but my duty to stop you. Understand that. I
want to read to you from a book here, so that you'll understand where I'm getti
ng to, and I want you to listen very closely to the closing music at the end of
our program tonight. This is taken from [i]The Secret Societies of All Ages and
Countries[/i]. It's in two volumes. It's...the author is [Charles William] Hecke
thorn. This particular set of two volumes was published, I believe, in 1965 by U
niversity Books Incorporated. The Library of Congress number is 65-22572. So, I
urge you to get this set of books because these books were written back when it
was still easy to get a lot of information on the existing secret societies, muc
h easier than it is today. I want to read to you from page 14 of volume two, und
er [i]Secret Societies, Freemasonry, Rites and Customs[/i], paragraph 391, entit
led [i]Masonic Customs[/i]:
[WC]: "Some Masonic peculiarities may conveniently be mentioned here. Freemasons
frequently attend in great state at the laying the foundation stones of public
buildings; they follow a master to the grave clothed with all the paraphernalia
[of] their respective degrees; they date from the year of light. The Knights of
the Sun, the 28th degree of the Scotch rite, acknowledge no era, but always writ
e their date with seven naughts [or] 0,000,000. No one can be admitted into the
Masonic order before the age of twenty-one, but an exception is made in this cou
ntry and in France in favor of the sons of Masons, who may be initiated at the a
ge of eighteen. Such a person is called a [i]Lewis[/i] in England [William Coope
r: and that's the source of that name], and a [i]Louveteau[/i] in France. This l
atter word signifies a young wolf; and the reader will remember that in the myst
eries of Isis the candidate was made to wear the mask of a wolf's head. Hence a
wolf and a candidate in these mysteries were [and are] synonymous. Macrobius, in
his 'Saturnalia', says that the ancients perceived a relationship between the s
un, the great symbol of these mysteries, and a wolf; for as the flocks of sheep
and cattle disperse at the sight of the wolf, so the flocks of sheep and cattle
disperse at the sight of the wolf, so the flocks of stars disappear at the appro
ach of the sun's light. We have seen in the account of the French Workmen's Unio
ns that the sons of Solomon still call themselves wolves. The adoption of the [i
]louveteau[/i] into the lodge takes place with a ceremony resembling that of bap
tism. The temple is covered with flowers, incense is burnt, and the godfather is
enjoined not only to provide for the bodily wants of the new-born member, but a
lso to bring him up in the school of truth and justice. The child receives a new
name, generally that of a virtue, such as Veracity, Devotion, Beneficence; the
godfather pronounces for him the oath of apprentice, in which degree he is recei
ved into the Order, which, in case he should become an orphan, supports and esta
blishes him in life."
[WC]: Now, the key words here, folks, that I want you to remember and pay very c
lose attention to when you hear the closing theme, or the music, that closes thi
s program tonight, is this. I'm going to quote directly from it: "Macrobius, in
his 'Saturnalia', says that the ancients perceived a relationship between the su
n, the great symbol of these mysteries, and a wolf; for as the flocks of sheep a
nd cattle disperse at the sight of the wolf, so the flocks of sheep and cattle d
isperse at the sight of the wolf, so the flocks of stars disappear at the approa
ch of the sun's light." Now remember, in chapter one of my book, [i]Silent Weapo
ns for Quiet Wars[/i], there is a quote of these people who have declared a sile
nt, quiet war upon the American people using silent weapons that goes like this:
"A nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better
than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and
steaks on the table by choice and consent." In other words, cattle. I prefer to
call them sheeple, the sheeple of the world. And, of course, if they are the wol
ves, if they are the wolves, then you are the steaks on the table if you are, in
deed, one of the sheeple.
[WC]: Well, that takes us almost up to the mark. Will, I want to thank you once
again, and since this is the last program that we're going to be doing together
for quite a while, I'm going to give you the next thirty seconds to tell the peo
ple out there, the sheeple, would they should hear.
[WM]: Thank you, Bill. (laughs) There's only one message for the sheeple of Amer
ica, and that is (makes bleating noise), and as my family [sic], I love you.
[WC]: And we're out of time once again. For all of you who have been helping in
this great fight, God bless you. For the rest of you, God bless you, too, but Go
d help you to wake up in time and I hope you listen to this closing number. Good
night.
(closing music: [i]Werewolf[/i], by Five Man Electrical Band, song lyrics below)
[i]Mama said, there's
Something weird 'bout Billy
I looked in his room, his bed
Wasn't slept in at all last night
But Papa said, ah, now Mama
Don't you go talking silly
He's just a young boy
He's just sowing his wild oats
And that's all right
But Mama said, no
There's something real
Strange bout my Billy
The farmer down the road said he
Lost a few of his sheep last night
I know he's my own flesh and blood
But he makes my blood run chilly
Cause I saw him from my window
And he was on the heel
Just screaming at the moonlight
Is it any wonder we hate
To see the sun go down
And is it any wonder we hate to
See the full moon coming around
So Papa said, I guess there's
Only one thing to do bout Billy
Hand me down my gun, son
Bring along that silver dinner bell
But Mama said, Papa
I beg you, don't kill him
Cause I just couldn't bear to
Think about my baby in Hell
But he went down to the blacksmith
Got him out of bed and said
Get your fire hot
Oh, shut up your shutters
And close down the doors
We're gonna need all the heat you got
Cause I want you to melt my
Silver bell down to a single shot
I got a job to do and I got to get it
Done before the sun comes up
Oh, so is it any wonder that we
Hate to see the sun go down
Then we heard a shot
And I said, Papa got em
Then we heard a scream and Mama
Smiled and said, betcha Billy got em
But when I lifted up my eyes, there was
Papa in the doorway staring at the floor
And my big brother Billy never did
Come home no more
Is it any wonder we hate
To see the sun go down
And is it any wonder we hate to
See the full moon coming around[/i]