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Rejitha_menon Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:32 am Post subject: Plinth Beam design
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Could anyone kindly provide me a design of plinth beam if we are using footing/plinth
Joined: 20 Mar 2013 beam/column upto plinth level for a residential building of 2storey, instead of rubble masonry
Posts: 3 foundation. Here plinth beam carries load of 2floors slabs and walls(23cm).

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nitikagarg85 Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:23 am Post subject:

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analyze the plinth beam for BM and shear as usual floor beams in staad.
Joined: 08 Jun 2010
Posts: 3 plinth beam would not be generally carrying any load from slab. just apply wall load on plinth
beam in udl form as in usual floor beam.

regards,
Nitika

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es_jayakumar Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:56 am Post subject:

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Location: Cochin
I guess that your structure is frame only up to the plinth level and above that, it is load bearing
for two storeys. May I know what situation necessitates such a combined structure ? Modelling
such a structure in STAAD is a bit involved. You have to manually calculate the loads coming on
your plinth beam from both the storeys (wall load, slab load & live load) and apply it on STAAD
model. In such a case, the plinth beam may work out bigger in size due to the magnified load
from the two storeys. Do you propose this structure in medium / shallow clay layer somewhere
in Kerala ? If it is soft clay, we cannot assume the beam to get any support from the soil
beneath.

Regards,
E S Jayakumar,
Trichur

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Dr. N. Subramanian Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: Plinth Beam design
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Dear Er Menon,

As rightly pointed out by Er Jayakumar, you are basically designing a load bearing wall
structure, but not supporting the wall on continuous footing but on plinth beam, which is
supported by column and individual footing. Please state the reason for adopting such a system.
Please note the points raised by Er Jayakumar.

Prof Santhakumar has published a paper in ICJ using brick infilled vierendeel girders for soils
having low SBC. You may have a look at it:

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Posts: 5282 Sundaramurthy, S., and Santhakumar, A.R., Brick-infilled vierendeel girders as foundation for
Location: Gaithersburg, MD, low-lying, low bearing-capacity soil terrain, The Indian Concrete Journal, Vol. 79, No.1, Jan
U.S.A.
2005, pp. 57-60.

Best wishes,
NS
Rejitha_menon wrote:
Could anyone kindly provide me a design of plinth beam if we are using footing/plinth
beam/column upto plinth level for a residential building of 2storey, instead of rubble masonry
foundation. Here plinth beam carries load of 2floors slabs and walls(23cm).

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Rejitha_menon Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:52 am Post subject:

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Dear All,
Joined: 20 Mar 2013
Posts: 3 Thank you for your replies. This system is adopted in Trivandrum,Kerala since the ground level
varies upto 2m and rubble masonry is not that much economical for 2m ht foundation. And full
frame structure (columns and beams upto roof level) is also not economical.

So we have adopted this system of footing,plinth beam and col pedestals upto plinth level.

Here the plinth beam carries all load of 2storeys with load bearing wall. In this case for
calculating Bending moment in plinth beam ,wht factor we have to take(instead of wl2/ 8 ) ?

In some area plinth beam will not rest in hard strata soil where the level difference is there ,
instead it wil rest in filled soil .

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es_jayakumar Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:37 am Post subject:

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Ms. Menon,

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Location: Cochin
If the plinth beams do not get a firm support from hard soil beneath, in my opinion, they may be
considered as supported at columns only and carryout the analysis accordingly. Upon getting
good soil support, the BM could have been taken as wl2/20 to wl2/30, approximately. I invite
the opinion of our seniors also, on this.
If the FF is the ditto of the GF, you may model the structure in STAAD by applying wall load (udl)
of 2 storeys ( say 6.5 m, with basement) and floor load (of both DL&LL slabs) of two floors, on
the plinth beams. The stair case portion may only cause some error while following this
simplification. (The same is possible even if the FF is the partial extension of the GF and in such
case, carefully apply double load / single load on plinth beams )

E S Jayakumar

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rajancivildesign@gmail.co Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:27 pm Post subject: TABLE FOR GRADE BEAM FOR STUB COLUMNS
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The method of providing column up to plinth level is called as stub column. The grade beam is
designed for the number of stories it has to carry. Normally we limit to maximum of 3 storey
only. A table showing grade beam for Exterior and interior wall as followed in practice is
attached for reference.

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As I had posted the other day, Rajan Sir comes up with instant solutions for each and every
problem. Fantastic ! I hope these values are to be used when the sub soil is hard enough to
render some distributed support to the plinth beam ?

E S Jayakumar
Joined: 24 Nov 2011
Posts: 1162
Location: Cochin

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Rejitha_menon Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:47 am Post subject:

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@ Rajan Sir, Thank you very much for providing the document,it will be really helpful.But some
Joined: 20 Mar 2013 interior spans are coming upto 5m. And like Jayakumar sir asked,whether we could use this
Posts: 3 design for plinth beam resting on filled soil? ( as PB is not resting on soil hard strata due to level
difference in location.

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Dr. N. Subramanian Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:56 pm Post subject:
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Dear Er Jayakumar and Er Menon,

Whether the grade beam is supported by the soil or not, you can take the BM as wL2/30 as per
IS 2911. Research conduced by Prof. Jagdish at IITM has shown that there will be composite
action between the brickwork and the plinth beam due to the arch action, and hence the
requirement of steel will be considerably less up to wl2/100. Hence we can safely assume
wl2/30. I think the tables by Er Rajan have been derived on wl2/30 only. To ensure composite
action it is better to lay the first layer of brickwork while the concrete in the plinth/grade beam is
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Location: Gaithersburg, MD,
U.S.A.
Best wishes,
NS

es_jayakumar wrote:
As I had posted the other day, Rajan Sir comes up with instant solutions for each and every
problem. Fantastic ! I hope these values are to be used when the sub soil is hard enough to
render some distributed support to the plinth beam ?

E S Jayakumar

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