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Revisiting the Issue of Jesus Praying to and Worshiping God
By Sam Shamoun
Despite the fact that in the following articles and rebuttals,
If Jesus is God … was he praying to himself?
Since Jesus has a God, how can he be God himself?
Jesus Christ – Our risen Lord and our great God!
Jesus Christ – Our Lord And Our God!
I have thoroughly addressed the issue of Jesus worshiping and praying to God, and showed how
this does nothing to undermine the clear and explicit biblical witness to his essential Deity, I have
nonetheless decided to tackle this objection from a different angle, one which actually turns the
tables against both Muslims and disbelieving Jews who use this argument as a means of casting
doubt upon Jesus’ perfect Godhood and essential coequality with the Father.
In this article, I will seek to demonstrate how this objection actually backfires against them by
showing that their very own argument ends up proving that the being they worship cannot be
God.
CHRISTIANITY
In Christianity, God is Tri-Personal, meaning that God eternally exists as the Father, his eternal
Word/Son, and his Holy Spirit. These three are not the same divine Person, nor are they three
separate Beings, but rather are three eternally distinct, yet inseparable, Persons or relationships
that love and adore one another.
As such, it is perfectly understandable to see why Jesus would pray to and worship God and still
be God, since the God-breathed Scriptures teach that he is the eternal divine Word of the Father
who is personally distinct from him, and therefore able to enjoy perfect communion and
fellowship with God (cf. John 1:1-4). The NT further teaches that the eternal Word became flesh,
i.e., an actual human being, in order to become the kind of man that God intends every human
creature to be (cf. John 1:9-11, 14).
Now the perfect man would not be an atheist or a rebellious transgressor, but an individual that
flawlessly obeys God’s will and renders perfect worship and service to him. Therefore, since Jesus
was such a man it shouldn’t surprise us to find him worshiping and perfectly obeying his heavenly
Father, always doing only that which pleases him:   
“They went out of the city and came to Him.   Meanwhile His disciples urged Him, saying,
‘Rabbi, eat.’   But He said to them, ‘I have food to eat of which you do not know.’
Therefore the disciples said one to another, ‘Has anyone brought Him anything to eat?’
Jesus said to them, ‘My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me, and to finish His work.’”
John 4:30-34
“Then Jesus said to them, ‘Truly, truly I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but
what He sees the Father do. For whatever He does, likewise the Son does… I can do
nothing of Myself. As I hear, I judge. My judgment is just, because I seek not My own will,
but the will of the Father who sent Me.’” John 5:19, 30
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life. Therefore what I say, I say as the Father tells me.”” John 12:49-50
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commandments and remain in His love.” John 15:9-10
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Righteousness of Christ? is said to be the God of all flesh,
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sovereignty over all (Chris honor the Father as his very own God. This is in fact what we would expect the Incarnate Son to
Gautreau)
do if the Holy Bible’s teaching is consistent with itself.
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Kerrigan Skelly actually prays and worships in the same way that his creatures do.
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He it is who prays (yusallee)1 for you and His angels too, to bring you forth out of the
darkness into the light, for He is merciful to the believers. S. 33:43 (Edward Henry Palmer,
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The Qur’an, Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1880)
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the Bible? (Keith Thompson vs. The late translator Palmer has a rather interesting footnote here regarding the Quranic usage of
Inamullah Mumtaz) the Arabic word for “prays”, namely salla:
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(Keith Thompson vs. Catholic
145:1 The same word is used as is rendered ‘pray’ in ALL THE OTHER PASSAGES in the
Minister)
Qur’ân, though the commentators interpret it here as meaning ‘bless.’ So, too, in the
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Biblical and Historical? (Keith formula which is always used after Mohammed’s name, zalla ’llâhu ‘alâihi wa sallam,
Thompson vs. Roman Catholic) ‘may God bless and preserve him!’ is literally, ‘may God PRAY for him and salute
- Papal Primacy and Canon him!‘(source, bold and capital emphasis ours)
Debate (Keith Thompson vs.
Catholic) Palmer’s comments show that Muslims have no way around the fact that their deity prays much
- Catholic Apologist Admits he in the same way that creatures like angels do, since the Arabic word used here always means
can't Historically Prove Peter prayer whenever it is used in the Quran.
was First Roman Bishop &
More (Keith Thompson vs.
Nor is this the only text which depicts the Muslim deity worshiping along with his creation:
Fidei Defensor SPQR)
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Alone? (Keith Thompson vs. Verily, God AND His angels PRAY (yusalloona) for the prophet. O ye who believe! PRAY
Catholic Peter Dimond) (salloo) for him and salute him with a salutation! S. 33:56 Palmer
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Thompson vs. Muslim Nadir Here we have Allah, his angels and believers praying for Muhammad!
Ahmed)
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Conception Contradict
Scripture and History? (Keith
1387. Abu Umama reported that the Messenger of Allah said, “ALLAH AND His angels AND
Thompson vs. Richard a Roman
Catholic) the people of the heavens AND the earth, EVEN the ants in their rocks AND the fish, PRAY
-Infant Baptism Debate: Chris for blessings on those who teach people good.” [at-Tirmidhi] (Aisha Bewley, Riyadas-
Gautreau vs. Zachary Kueker Salihin (The Meadows of the Righteous), Book of Knowledge, 241. Chapter: the excellence
(written debate) of knowledge: capital and italic emphasis ours)
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1397. ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘As reported the Messenger of Allah says, “Anyone who
Peace? (Keith Thompson vs.
says a prayer on me, Allah will PRAY on him ten times on account of it.” [Muslim] (Ibid.,
Muslim Sami Zaatari)
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of Allah. One of them a worshipper, and the other a scholar. So the Messenger of Allah
said: ‘The superiority of the scholar over the worshipper is like my superiority over the least
of you.’ Then the Messenger of Allah said: ‘Indeed ALLAH, His Angels, the inhabitants of
the heavens and the earths – even the ant in his hole, even the fish – SAY SALAT upon the
one who teaches the people to do good. (Hasan)
[Abu ‘Eisa said:] This Hadith is Hasan Gharib Sahih… (English Translation of Jami‘ At-Tirmidhi,
Compiled by Imam Hafiz ‘Eisa Mohammad Ibn ‘Eisa At-Tirmidhi, From Hadith no. 2606 to
3290, translated by Abu Khaliyl (USA), ahadith edited and referenced by Hafiz Abu Tahir
Zubair ‘Ali Za’i, final review by Islamic Research Section Darussalam [Darussalam Publishers
& Distributors, First Edition: November 2007], Volume 5, Chapter 19. What Has Been Related
About the Superiority Of Fiqh Over Worship, p. 80 – listed as number 70 in the ALIM online
version of at-Tirmidhi’s hadith collection: capital and underline emphasis ours)
Despite the fact that the verbs employed in these specific texts always mean prayer and/or
worship every time they appear in both the Quran and ahadith, Muslims still wish to argue that
they do not have this meaning when used in reference to Allah. They claim that when salla and
its related terms are applied to their deity then they refer either to Allah’s mercy or his blessings,
which he bestows upon his creatures.
There are two main problems with this assertion. First, the citations we quoted all describe Allah as
joining along with his creatures in performing salla/salat/salawat. As such, they must carry over
the same meaning when they appear in the same context, irrespective of who the subject of
these verbs may be. Seeing that no Muslim denies that salla/salat/salawat means prayer/worship
when used of angels or the other creatures that are mentioned, whether humans or ants, they
must therefore be consistent and accept the fact that this same meaning must apply in respect
to Allah, who is described as performing this same exact action alongside these other entities.
Second, the Islamic sources distinguish the salla/salat/salawat of Allah from both his mercy
(rahmah) and blessing (baraka). Notice, for instance, this next verse:
Upon them rest the prayers and mercy from their Lord (salawatun min rabbihim
warahmatun), and those — they are the truly guided. S. 2:157 Our translation
Contrast this with the following English version:
They are those on whom are the Salawat (i.e. blessings [sic], etc.) (i.e. who are blessed
and will be forgiven) from their Lord, and (they are those who) receive His Mercy, and it is
they who are the guided-ones. Hilali-Khan
Here we have Allah bestowing both his prayers (salawat) and mercy (rahmah) upon believers,
showing that they do not have the same meaning.
Moreover, the hadith literature itself differentiates Allah’s prayer (salah) from his blessing
(baraka), as we find in the following cases:
The Command to say Salah upon the Prophet
Al-Bukhari said: “Abu Al-`Aliyah said: “Allah’s Salah is His praising him before the angels,
and the Salah of the angels is their supplication.” Ibn `Abbas said: “They send blessings.”
Abu `Isa At-Tirmidhi said: “This was narrated from Sufyan Ath-Thawri and other scholars,
who said: `The Salah of the Lord is mercy [sic], and the Salah of the angels is their seeking
forgiveness.’” There are Mutawatir Hadiths narrated from the Messenger of Allah
commanding us to send blessings on him and how we should say Salah upon him. We will
mention as many of them as we can, if Allah wills, and Allah is the One Whose help we
seek. In his Tafsir of this Ayah, Al-Bukhari recorded that Ka`b bin `Ujrah said, “It was said, `O
Messenger of Allah, with regard to sending Salam upon you, we know about this, but how
about Salah?’ He said…
<<Say: ‘O Allah, send YOUR SALAH upon Muhammad and upon the family of
Muhammad, as You sent YOUR SALAH upon the family of Ibrahim, verily You are the Most
Praiseworthy, Most Glorious. O Allah, send YOUR BLESSINGS upon Muhammad and upon
the family of Muhammad, as You sent YOUR BLESSINGS upon the family of Ibrahim, verily
You are Most Praiseworthy, Most Glorious.’’>>” Imam Ahmad recorded that Ibn Abi Layla
said that Ka`b bin `Ujrah met him and said, “Shall I not give you a gift? The Messenger of
Allah came out to us and we said, `O Messenger of Allah! We know how to send Salam
upon you, but how can we send Salah?’ He said…
<<Say: ‘O Allah, send YOUR SALAH upon Muhammad and upon the family of
Muhammad, as You sent YOUR SALAH upon the family of Ibrahim, verily You are the Most
Praiseworthy, Most Glorious. O Allah, send YOUR BLESSINGS upon Muhammad and upon
the family of Muhammad, as You sent YOUR BLESSINGS upon the family of Ibrahim, verily
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Allah sends down both his salah and blessings upon Muhammad and his family. The fact that
Muhammad clearly distinguished between the words salah and baraka (“blessing”) proves
beyond any reasonable doubt that they have two different meanings. As one Muslim authority
candidly admitted:
Allah makes the merit of His Prophet clear by first praying blessing on Himself, and then by
the prayer of the angels, and then by commanding His slaves to pray blessing and peace
on him as well. Abu Bakr ibn Furak related that one of the ‘ulama interpreted the words of
the Prophet, “The coolness of my eye is in the prayer,” as meaning Allah’s prayer, that of
the angels and that of his community in response to Allah’s command until the Day of
Rising. The prayer of angels and men is supplication for him and that of Allah is mercy.
It is said that “they pray” means they invoke blessing (baraka). However, when the
Prophet taught people the prayer on himself, he made a distinction between the word
salat (prayer) and baraka (blessing). We will return to the meaning of the prayer on him
later. (Qadi ‘Iyad Musa al-Yahsubi, Muhammad Messenger of Allah (Ash-Shifa of Qadi
‘Iyad), translated by Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley [Madinah Press, Inverness, Scotland, U.K.
1991; third reprint, paperback], Part One. Allah’s great estimation of the worth of His
Prophet expressed in both word and action, Chapter One: Allah’s Praise Of Him And His
Great Esteem For Him, Section 8: Concerning Allah instructing His creation to say the
prayer on the Prophet, His protecting him and removing the punishment because of him,
p. 25; bold emphasis ours)
And:
The Prophet made a distinction between salat (prayer) and baraka (blessing) in the
hadith in which he taught about making the prayer on him. This indicates that they have
two separate meanings. (Ibid., Part Two. Concerning the rights which people owe the
Prophet, Chapter Four: The Prayer On The Prophet And Asking Peace For Him, And The
Obligation Of Doing It And Its Excellence, Section 1: The meaning of the prayer on the
Prophet, p. 250; bold emphasis ours)
In light of the foregoing, Muslims have no choice but to accept that their god prays and worships
much like they do. As such, Muslims must contend with the fact that, according to Badawi’s
reasoning, Allah cannot be God or divine “since God doesn’t pray to God.” They must also
come to terms with reality by acknowledging that Allah is limited and finite, and cannot possibly
be the greatest conceivable being in existence since, according to the words of one Muslim
scholar and polemicist, “we pray to a power greater than us” (Dr. Jamal Badawi, Radio Al-Islam
Channel RA 200, “Jesus: Beloved Messenger of Allah”, K16. Did Jesus Claim Divinity VI: Jesus
Denies Godhood, and “prayer is petition from the finite to the infinite” (Badawi vs. Dr.William Lane
Craig, The Concept of God in Islam and Christianity. Hence, Allah must be a finite being who
prays to a power greater than himself.
JUDAISM
What may come as an even greater surprise and shock to the readers is that, according to
Jewish tradition God actually prays!
R. Johanan says in the name of R. Jose: How do we know that the Holy One, blessed be
He, says prayers? Because it says: Even them will I bring to My holy mountain and make
them joyful in My house of prayer.1  It is not said, 'their prayer', but 'My prayer'; hence [you
learn] that the Holy One, blessed be He, says prayers. What does He pray? — R. Zutra b.
Tobi said in the name of Rab: 'May it be My will that My mercy may suppress My anger,
and that My mercy may prevail over My [other] attributes, so that I may deal with My
children in the attribute of mercy and, on their behalf, stop short of the limit of strict
justice'.2  It was taught: R. Ishmael b. Elisha says: I once entered into the innermost part [of
the Sanctuary] to offer incense and saw Akathriel Jah,3  the Lord of Hosts, seated upon a
high and exalted throne. He said to me: Ishmael, My son, bless Me! I replied: May it be Thy
will that Thy mercy may suppress Thy anger and Thy mercy may prevail over Thy other
attributes, so that Thou mayest deal with Thy children according to the attribute of mercy
and mayest, on their behalf, stop short of the limit of strict justice! And He nodded to me
with His head. Here we learn [incidentally] that the blessing of an ordinary man must not
be considered lightly in your eyes.
1. Ibid. LVI, 7. 'In the house of My prayer'. 
2.  I.e., not exact the full penalty from them. 
3.  Lit., 'crown of God'. (Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Berakoth, Folio 7a; bold emphasis
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out of their own belief that the god they worship actually prays and worships if, as they claim, he
is supposed to be a uni-personal being?
So this objection that Jews and Muslims often level against Christians could and should be thrown
right back at them. Since both groups believe that their deity prays then they need to ask
themselves, who is their god praying to when he prays and worships?
They will either have to answer that he either is praying to and worshiping himself, or to some
other being. If the former then this depicts the divinity worshiped by these two groups as either a
schizophrenic being who has conversations with himself, and/or a rather arrogant and prideful
egotist who gets high off of worshiping himself.
If they choose to go with the latter then this means that the god worshiped by Jews and Muslims
is not the greatest conceivable being or the only true God and source of all that exists, since
there is a being greater than him whom he is subject and answers to.
Either way, Jews and Muslims have a problem, whereas the Christians do not since their position
regarding the worship and prayers of Christ is consistent, rational, and biblically coherent.   
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