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1. Chairman, Gary Knight called the meeting to order at 8:35 AM. Tim Folks was
the acting secretary.
Opening remarks by Gary, we have two new sub-committees: Guide for Selecting
Proportions for Pumpable Concrete (ACI 211-P) & Proportioning with Ground Limestone
and Mineral Fillers (ACI 211-N)
Associate Members:
David Berg Josh Patterson
BJ Eckholdt III Caroline Talbot
Berndt Kanduth John vaughan
Eric Koehler Ron Vaughn
Darmawan Ludirdja
Visitors:
Josh Edwards Zane Bussler
Summary of attendance:
Voting members 24
Associate members 9
TAC Representative 0
Visitors 2
Total 33
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2. Meeting Minutes
2.1 Minutes from the New Orleans meeting of 11/11/09 were approved.
3. Membership
3.1 Changes in Membership: Robert Lewis is now an Associate
Members.
TAC comment on charts – just reference it came from previous doc tables.
So as to not bog down appendix, committee will break out “Assessing Aggregate
Gradations” as separate document.
4.4 ACI 211-F, Proportioning – Submittal: John Cook (03/23 @ 2p-4p Suite
830) Working toward performance submittals. Challenge of proportioning
submittal without any proportions. Set up with performance based first and fall
back to traditional prescriptive second. E702 working on “submittal concrete
aids”(Joe Almond)?
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4.5 ACI 211-I, Assessing Aggregate Gradation: Jay Shilstone (03/23 @ 1p-3p
Parlor D) – Jay not present. Gary made comments stating the document should
be ready for ballot in June and to TAC by July.
4.6 ACI 211-M, Aggregate Packing: Konstantin Sobolev was not present, no
report given.
4.7 ACI 211-N Proportioning Ground Limestone & Material Fillers - Don
Powell (03/23@ 3p-5p@ Parlor D) 21 attended this first sub-committee meeting.
Plan to get the existing studies, reports & doc into committees hand by next
meeting. Hope to have draft by Fall meeting and setup TGs.
4.8 ACI 211-P Proportioning for Pumpable Concrete - Joe Kelley (03/22 @
3:30p-5p @ Parlor B) 8 attended the first sub-committee meeting. Joe Bury has
started a draft of the document, working on body of document. We need to added
section to make a stand alone document. This document is very appropriate.
Ava reviewed the draft and commented “looks great”. Can we change
“engineered mix design” to “mix proportions”? Comments on 211.1 page 20 in
3.2 “water content” document stresses water additions. Page 20, line 10 “In
properly proportioned concrete…”. “Using water reducing admixtures … can
increase slump while maintaining W/C”. Page 24, line 10, “low water content…”
we want workable slump and low W/C. Line 12 “strength” comment should not
be in this paragraph. Line 19 “design” used instead of “mix proportions”. Line
XX “SF reduces heat of hydration”, she disagrees, not her experience.
Katie Bartojay asked how the transferred appendix (Appendix 5- Mass Concrete )
are to be used? What is intention of how the other documents are to
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5. Next Meeting
5.1 The next meeting will be October 27, 2010 in Pittsburgh.
6. Adjournment
6.1 Meeting Adjourned: 9:30AM
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