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I understand your turbine consists of one HP cylinder and another IP cum LP cylinder which means all
are single flow . Is it correct ?
brg no.1 – HP(<-) – brg no.2 – brg no.3(??) – IP(->) – LP(->??) - brg no.3/4 – brg no.4/5 – Generator –
brg no.5/6
4. One of the important factors which was not mentioned in your discussion was – whether any balancing
drum arrangement provided with HP steam connected on one side and vacuum on other side of
balancing drum/disc .
5. Another important factor is “total axial float / clearance in thrust bearing” – can you find out the value
from your turbine drgs / manuals . This should be around 0.3 to 0.6mm .
6. What is the method of measurement of axial shift – there should be a separate collar on rotor , very
close to thrust brg housing , by side of which proximity probes may be mounted . distance between
thrust collar and additional collar used for measurement is needed . this may be around 20 cm . pl
confirm whether measurement collar is on brg no.1 side or brg no.3 side of thrust brg . this is important
as the thermal expansion of the 20cm length of shaft between these two collars gets added(+/-) to axial
shift reading .
7. What is your turbine rolling procedure – do you admit steam to HP&IP simultaneously or steam to IP is
admitted at a later stage .
8. During initial rolling , it is assumed that HP exhaust will go to Reheater and hot reheat goes to IP
turbine and not to IP/LP bypass . Pl confirm .
9. Axial shift calibration : one standard convention is axial shift reading is ZERO when rotor thrust collar is
touching thrust pads on IP/LP side . So , when it touches brg no.1 side thrust pads , reading will be –
ve . Pl confirm your arrangement .
11. Thrust brg may have measurement for each thrust pad on both sides (brg no.1 side and brg no.3 side) .
pl confirm max & min temperature amongst all pads on each side(there may be 10-12 pads on each
side(front & rear)) . It was mentioned by you that “t hrust bearing front temperature also risen and now
maintaining at 85 °C” . I understand that this is the average temp on brg no.1 side .
12. What is the max temperature reached on front side and rear side of thrust brg during rolling and
during reaching full load . Assuming that balancing drum arrangement is not provided in your turbine ,
It is expected that axial shift may be towards one side during rolling and low loads and may change to
other side(brg no.1?) at higher loads . If it is the case , thrust brg temp on corresponding side would go
up during rolling and low loads which will reduce at higher loads . Do you have DCS trending facility to
monitor / review such changes . What is the storage time of trends 2 days / 7 days / or more ? . This
can be monitored in case of start-ups in future if data is not available now .
13. Condenser vacuum shall not have any direct impact on steady state values of axial shift except thru
changes in load/steam flow parameters .
I will be able to give a correct picture after receiving data mentioned above . Otherwise , it will not be accurate
. You can send me the data whichever is readily available first and balance data at a later stage .
PN Pavankumar