Professional Documents
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7 January 2007
A writes:
Just read the majority of the mailing list conversation and did not understand your, what I thought, sudden shift in direction. I imagine something that did
not make its way onto the mailing list conversation prompted you to pull your support and then publish the emails? If so, can you fill us in?
Cryptome:
All the messages received were published. My objections had been building, shown in later messages, after initial support. The finally fed-up turnaround
occurred with the publication today of the $5 million dollar by July fund-raising goal -- see messages at the tail-end. I called that -- along with a delay in
offering a public discussion and critique forum and failure to provide a credible batch of leaked documents for public scrutiny -- a surefire indication of a
scam. This is the exact technique used by snake oilers, pols and spies. Requests to Cryptome to keep stuff quiet are regular fare and they always get
published. Next up, the names and affiliations of the perps if they don't reveal themselves in an open forum.
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DECRYPTED/VERIFIED MESSAGE *** Dear John, You knew me under another
name from cypherpunk days. I am involved in a project that you may have
feeling for. I will not mention its name yet incase you feel yu are not
able to be involved. The project is a mass document leaking project
that requires someone with backbone to hold the .org domain
registration. We would like that person to be someone who is not privy
to the location of the master servers which are otherwise obscured by
technical means. We expect the domain to come under the usual
political and legal pressure. The policy for .org requires that
registrants details not be false or misleading. It would be an easy
play to cancel the domain unless someone were willing to stand up and
claim to be the registrant. This person does not need to claim any
other knowledge or involvement. Will you be that person?
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To: From: Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 22:45:09 +1100 [This is a restricted
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do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] I've
registered us to present WL at the World Social Forum in Nairobi Jan
20-25th 2007! There should be 40-70 thousand people attending. Anyone
else feel like coming to Africa? At the moment I've only registered us
to present on the first day. However, we *can* register upto 5
presentations/workshops/roundtables etc. I've reserved a slot for a
200-300 audience, but it's really quite hard to guess how many people
will turn up. There's 1000 other organizations jostling for time, but
there are 40-70k people. Many people there must be net savy and even
those that aren't can't but help hearing about the wikpedia. Does
anyone have suggestions on how to best stagger the presentation types
(you'll have examine wsfprocess.net to see what's available). At the
moment, my intent is to register a similar sized slot on each day, with
a slightly different label, so as to appeal to different character
types. The 7th edition of the World Social Forum brings the world to
Africa as activists, social movements, networks, coalitions and other
progressive forces from Asia-Pacific, Latin America, the Caribbean,
North America, Europe and all corners of the African continent converge
in Nairobi, Kenya for five days of cultural resistance and celebration.
http://www.wsfprocess.net/ You'll need to create an account (easy) at
wsfprocess in order to see us.
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From: To: Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:42:22 +1100 Subject: [WL] somali
bourbaki article [.doc] [This is a restricted internal development
mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that
word directly in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is
housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an
established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] [xxxxxxxxxxx has an
message size limit of 300k, my earlier post didn't go through, so
I've split it up into three parts] []
http://cryptome.org/wikileaks/inside_somalia.doc
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:26:14 -0800 To: From: John Young <jya[a
t]pipeline.com> [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist
for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly
in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is housed at
riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established
lawyer and plenty of backbone.] It would be prudent to attempt to
verify that the Somali document is not a forgery. The last threat about
shooting anybody who reveals the document smells like a smear of the
author. The spooks forge such documents as a matter of regular
tradecraft, and leaks of them are frequently through an alleged third
party. The more the reputation of a target would be damaged by a
"leak," greater the likelihood of a forgery. Verification, or the
best that can done close to it, is probably a basic requirement of this
list. Or a disclaimer that no verification has been done. It should
not be long before deliberate leaks start to appear here, as they do
around nearly all means of distributing information. Contaminating
these means is the nature of those who prowl for ways to insert lies
and duplicity into the search for truth and reliability. This is not
to suggest leaks are not to be trusted, just not blindly so, for they
are now standard tools for lying, smearing and stinging by
governments, corporations, persons of all demonics.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 21:12:20 -0800 To: From: John Young <jya[a
t]pipeline.com> [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist
for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly
in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is housed at
riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established
lawyer and plenty of backbone.] This is a good analysis and suggests
how to respond to doubts about a document, or for that matter, for a
document for which there are no immediate doubts but probably should be
questioned as a good practice for a leak-promoting source like this:
skepticism as a premise of providing leaked documents. The MSM all too
often substitute a prefabricated authority for skepticism of what it
publishes. Whereas scholarly work, the best of it, presents
counterarguments as part of a presentation, on the assumption that
discourse is superior to pontification, or worse, infalliability.
Leaks should be doubted and doubts answered by leakers or those who
distribute the leakables. An iron-clad leak is a phony or a lie. It
does require more work to perform an exegesis of a leaked document
weighing the pros and cons, but that is what it takes to avoid the trap
of vainglorious pride in being a leaker and the subsequent lure of
leaking crap to remain in the spotlight -- the politician's disease.
Or the other trap is pretending authority where it is not deserved,
indeed, where reputation and reliability are marketed as come-ons, thus
the celebrated MSM and its bastard children, the nameish blogs seen as
sidebars to other nameish blogs, self-referencing one another into
triviality. The spooks treat forging and forgeries as high art,
producing and challenging, some claim there is no higher purpose of the
spies than to masterfully forge and to undo a master forgery. Takes one
to know one. The same is true of leakers: there is hardly a better
means to get a false and/or true story into the public domain, or
better, into the most secret caverns of suspicious noggins like that of
James Jesus Angleton and his ilk among the Soviets, Israelis, Brits,
and so on. Spooks practice this on each other, in training and in
practice. The saying is that analysts rule for their unquenchable
disbelief, and nothing that goes up the chain of command without
powerful dissent is believable, so biased are promoters that they are
unable to tell the full story, that is, preach. Thanks for moving in
the rightly dubitable direction.
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 22:04:09 -0800 To: From: John Young <jya[a
t]pipeline.com> [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist
for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly
in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is housed at
riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established
lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Quite an excellent report, much
superior to what appears in the MSM. More thoughtful about the first
and continuing casualties of war, diplomacy and commercial journalism:
the truth about and critical examination of information sources.
Where, when and how is it to be made public along with the original
document? While perhaps implicit, there could be an invitation for
critical comment by readers to continue the discourse. And if so, to
what or whom are comments to be sent?
From: Subject: Re: [WL] new somali article(v3) more on Bourbaki Date:
Mon, 25 Dec 2006 18:55:06 +1100 To: John Young <jya[a t]pipeline.com>
John, you set an example to us humble rabble and lift our spirits
with your gentile tidings. Keep up our hopes, our e-spirit de
corpuscular; draw forth our anger, our courage -- and our fire -- to
lick at the damp paper of uncivilization until it catches and our
hearts are warmed by the conflagration of basement mendacities the
world over. Let our smiles be woken by flowers of openness pushing
through the ash from below. We are compelled to act, as we are best
able, for a man who witnesses injustice but does not act, becomes a
party to a cascade of injustice, via the iterative diminution and
pacification of his character. It is our plan to foment political
and financial support for WL. To do that we need a commanding voice.
Everywhere we see professional sayers and professional knowers, but
the demands of each mean little intersection and the world finds
itself with brainless words and wordless brains. By uniting a handful
of knowers together in harmony we can project our voice without
devoting our minds to the preferments and petty intrigues of moguls.
We have the collective sources, personalities and learning to be, or
rather, appear to be, the reclusive ubermench of the 4th estate. We
will take the non-linear blessing such a position affords and apply
it to our great task of DIY universal open governance. Our rules
follow that of the French Bourbaki who through their allonym set the
mathematical world to right in the first half of the 20th C with
internal agreement by exhaustion and the purification inherit in non-
attribution of ego. Ben likes to quotes Woodruff thus "There is no
limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind
who gets the credit." For the Somali document I am not sure of the
venue. I've had a couple of things published in Counterpunch
recently, so have an in with Cockburn and the content and style is an
easy fit. Suelette and I have had junk published in the London
Independent, Age, SMH, Australian etc, but this article is a bone too
big for the dailies to chew, and although it might be happy with
fragments, my feeling is it will pick them from the Counterpunch
midden without our efforts. My only hesitation vis-a-vis Counterpunch
is the readership, which though large, tends to pal up on one pew and
sometimes even sings and claps. We're open to other venue
suggestions, and very happy to take edits, since your are still a
great stylist. When WL is deployed, feedback will be, like Wikipedia,
an act of creation and correction; the Aweys document and those like
it will eventually face one hundred thousand incensed Somali
refugees, blade and keyboard in hand, cutting, cutting, cutting apart
its pages until all is dancing confetti and the truth.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. On 25 Dec 2006, at 17:04, John Young wrote: > Quite
an excellent report, much superior to what appears in the > MSM. More
> thoughtful about the first and continuing casualties of war, >
diplomacy and > commercial journalism: the truth about and critical
examination of > information > sources. > > Where, when and how is it
to be made public along with the original > document? > > While perhaps
implicit, there could be an invitation for critical > comment by >
readers to continue the discourse. And if so, to what or whom are >
comments > to be sent?
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 11:57:05 -0800 To: From: John Young <jya[a
t]pipeline.com> [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist
for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly
in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is housed at
riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established
lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Has the Word doc been subjected to
the program which reveals hidden revisions and their authors? I don't
have it but Richard Smith says he's written a program to show the
concealed revisions: http://www.computerbytesman.com/privacy/blair.htm
The original PDF might also reveal hidden information with a bit of
probing. Recall that NSA and others now warn about sanitizing Word to
PDF conversions: http://www.nsa.gov/snac/vtechrep/I333-TR-015R-
2005.PDF Beware of attributions like Department of State, they
regularly pop up along with TLA nyms. Even idiotic spammers use them.
None of this should hold up publication for that will set in motion a
slew of tests from a wide variety of skeptics eager to debunk. The
first debunkers will probably be the media approached to lend
credibility and provide exposure. They, rather their lawyers, are ever
eager to avoid liability and, worse, loss of reputation marketability.
The fret a lot about being stung by "leaks," black and white. The
analysis could bring them around, but it also conveys suspicion of
authenticity. Too much caution, though, sharply limits what gets
published. This forum got to face the fact it will be treated with
caution until a strong bonafide is established, maybe requiring a ride
on the back of a gold plated reputation, but that's might hard to come
by. Still, all the gold-plates once were once fools gold and rejected
by the old reputables, then wham, a supernova of expose brought an
invite into the comfy club. Most exposers never make it, and most
leakers don't get the attention they have dreamed of. I think the Net
offers opportunities the MSM just won't provide until the gauntlet is
run.
Subject: metadata dump for somali .doc and timeline analysis [chinese
motivation] Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 16:44:15 +1100 To: The additional
metadata: $ catdoc -v Translation_of_Aweis_Letter_1_.doc File Info
block version 193 Found at file offset 128 (hex 80) Written by product
version 24689 Language 1033 This is document (DOC) file File uses
extended character set File created on Windows Using default character
set Textstart = 1536 (hex 600) Textlen = 5908 (hex 1714) No
surprises there. Language 1033 is english. Can't seem to find a ref
to product version 24689. Might be interesting if that was US govt or
African (font reasons) MS issue. $ wvSummary
Translation_of_Aweis_Letter_1_.doc Metadata for
Translation_of_Aweis_Letter_1_.doc: Editing Duration = 2009-
04-22T19:33:48Z msole:codepage = 936 Generator =
"Microsoft Office Word" Last Modified = 2006-10-03T18:50:00Z
Creator = "Captain Weli" Revision = "2"
Number of Pages = 1 Number of Words = 782 Title =
"ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF SOMALIA" Created = 2006-10-03T18:50:00Z
Subject = "" Template = "Normal" Keywords =
"" Description = "" Number of Characters = 4462
Security Level = 4462 Last Saved by = "hi"
msole:codepage = 936 Number of Lines = 37 Number of
Paragraphs = 10 Unknown1 = 5234 Company = "Department
of State" Scale = FALSE Links Dirty = FALSE
Unknown3 = FALSE Unknown6 = FALSE Unknown7 = 726502
Salient points here; The last modification date is Oct 03, though it
is the second save. This is only Creation date == last modified. I'm
not sure what that implies; perhaps the document was copied to
another computer for the second edit. Can't find an easy ref to
security level 4462. The account name, 'hi' almost seems intended for
us! Timeline: Sep 18 Attempted Assassination of President Abdullahi
Yusuf in Baidoa. Brother and 5 guard killed. Oct 03 Final edits to
Aweys english translation Oct 14ish Document sent to Chinese Nov 02
President Yusef Arrives in Beijing Nov 04 Forty eight African countries
that have diplomatic relations with China participate in a two-day
summit.
From: Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:56:55 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] It's
clear to me that as i2p, tor, anonnet and freenet evolves, other p2p
programs become more anon and file-sharing web-sites become more
popular the anon + can't get the cat in the bag part aspects of the
internet will become fait acompli with its general in speed and
sophistication. There will be real free speech -- that also means an
inability to enforce copyrights, which is great since otherwise we
will find all economic growth diverted into the entertainment
industry as the ability to falsify sense-data becomes ever more
sophisticated, but human eyes and brains remain the same. Of course,
this'll only pause things slightly -- those companies will move
instead to the supply of mmorg like sense falsification, but the
regime of better governance that true free expression gives will
enable all manner of positive interventions. Although there is some
argument to be make that speech is still shackled until financial
transactions are free. [otherwise unmonetized free speech competes
with monetized censored speech] WL can advance the
political/governance aspects of these developments by several years
which will have all sorts of positive cascades, not the least of
which is total annihilation of the current US regime and any other
regime that holds its authority through mendacity alone.
To: From: Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:34:21 +1100 [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Our
Chinese sources have submitted proof of the electronic monitoring of
the xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. We invited the president to join our
cause and he has accepted with characteristic buddhist grace. Begin
forwarded message: From: Date: 2. Januar 2007 06:32:23 GMT+11:00 To:
Subject: Re: Advisory board position Dear xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Happy
New Year 2007. May the year be more meaningful to your noble
activities. Thank you for writing to me. It will be a pleasure to be
part of such important mission. If it is of some benefit in someway,
I am pleased to accept your invitation to serve as initial advisory
board member. I am doing so in my personal capacity and donot
represent the organization I belong to. Should you want someone to
represent the organization, please let me know so that we can discuss
with my other board members. Best wishes, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -------
------- Original message -------------- From: > > We're looking for
initial advisory board members. We think someone > from your
organization may be interested. > > WikiLeaks is developing an
uncensorable version of WikiPedia for > untraceable mass document
leaking and discussion. Our primary targets > are those highly
oppressive regimes in China, Russia and central > Eurasia, but we also
expect to be of assistance to those in the west > who wish to reveal
unethical behavior in their own governments and > corporations. We aim
for maximum political impact; this means our > technology is (like the
WikiPedia) fast and usable by non-technical > people. > We have
received over one million documents so far. We plan to > numerically
> eclipse the content the English WikiPedia with leaked documents and
> analysis. > > [http://www.wikileaks.org/] > > We believe
fostering a safe, easy, socially sanctified way for > uncensorable
mass document leaking, publishing and analysis is THE > most cost
effective generator of good governance. We seek good > governance,
because good governance does more than run trains on time. > Good
governance responds to the sufferings of its people. Good > governance
answers injustice. > > We are looking for initial advisory board
members to advise us > politically and technically. In particular we'd
like your advice > on: > > 1. How can WikiLeaks help the xxxxxxxxxx
cause? > 2. How can WikiLeaks motivate, protect, and help your sources
or > people like them? > 3. Who are some other good people to
approach, of the figurehead > variety and of the will-actually-do-wo
rk variety? > 4. How can we best support xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
sourced leaks? What are > the local issues? > > Advisory board
positions will. at least initially, be unpaid, but we > feel the role
may be of significant interest to you. > > ps. Happy New year! >
To: From: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 11:59:48 +1100 [This is a restricted
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Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Begin
forwarded message: From: Date: 4. Januar 2007 09:47:02 GMT+11:00 To:
Subject: Media Request Your website got me intrigued. Can I talk to
someone about the project? Thanks! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx This electronic
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To: From: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:00:04 +1100 [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Begin
forwarded message: From: Date: 4. Januar 2007 08:59:35 GMT+11:00 To:
Subject: Reporter wondering... ..who are you? I cover various topics
for science magazine and am interested in your aims and background for
perhaps a short article on the effort. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Reporter
Science Magazine xxxxxxxxxxx
From: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:00:24 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Begin
forwarded message: From: Date: 4. Januar 2007 08:54:04 GMT+11:00 To:
Subject: Questions from Federal Times Dear Sir or Madam, I am trying
to reach someone from Wikileaks for a short article I am writing for
tomorrow (1/4). My questions include: How long has the site been in the
works? When will it go live? What portion of the 1.1 million documents
you mention is from the U.S. government? How do you respond to
criticism that automated leaking of documents is irresponsible? Aren't
some leaks, such as one designed to mislead, bad? Thanks very much.
My deadline is 12pm Thur. Regards, xxxxxxxxxxxxx Staff Writer
Federal Times
To: From: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:10:08 +1100 [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Wikileaks
and Untraceable Document Disclosure A new internet initiative called
Wikileaks seeks to promote good government and democratization by
enabling anonymous disclosure and publication of confidential
government records. "WikiLeaks is developing an uncensorable version
of WikiPedia for untraceable mass document leaking and analysis,"
according to the project web site. "Our primary targets are highly
oppressive regimes in China, Russia, central eurasia, the middle east
and sub-saharan Africa, but we also expect to be of assistance to
those in the west who wish to reveal unethical behavior in their own
governments and corporations." "A system [that] enables everyone to
leak safely to a ready audience is the most cost effective means of
promoting good government -- in health and medicine, in food supply,
in human rights, in arms control and democratic institutions."
Wikileaks says that it has already acquired over one million
documents that it is now preparing for publication. The project web
site is not yet fully "live." But an initial offering -- a document
purportedly authored by Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys of Somalia's
radical Islamic Courts Union -- is posted in a zipped file here. An
analysis of the document's authenticity and implications is posted
here. Wikileaks invited Secrecy News to serve on its advisory board.
We explained that we do not favor automated or indiscriminate
publication of confidential records. In the absence of accountable
editorial oversight, publication can more easily become an act of
aggression or an incitement to violence, not to mention an invasion
of privacy or an offense against good taste. So we disagree on first
principles? No problem, replied Wikileaks: "Advisory positions are
just that -- advisory! If you want to advise us to censor, then by
all means do so." While Wikileaks seeks to make unauthorized
disclosures technologically immune to government control, an opposing
school of thought proposes to expand U.S. government authority to
seize control of information that is already in the public domain
when its continued availability is deemed unacceptably dangerous.
"Although existing authorities do not directly address the subject,
it appears that reasonable restrictions upon the possession and
dissemination of catastrophically dangerous information can be
constitutionally implemented," suggests Stewart Harris of the
Appalachian School of Law. See "Restrictions are justifiable,"
National Law Journal, December 11, 2006.
To: From: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:10:47 +1100 [This is a restricted
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do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
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Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Begin
forwarded message: From: Date: 4. Januar 2007 06:18:09 GMT+11:00 To:
Subject: RE: advisory board inquiry [wikileaks] Thanks
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxa blog entry on WL here:
http://www.fas.org/blog/secrecy/2007/01/wikileaks_and_untraceable_docu.
html From: Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:39 PM To: Subject: Re:
advisory board inquiry [wikileaks] Hi xxxxxxxxxxxx, The site is not
yet live in the way it will be (i.e like wikipedia). You can write
about it's developments (we're interested in more volunteers etc) if
you like. We now have the washington tibet association on board (we
received a leak about their chinese penetration). Other than our .tw
people we're still looking for appropriate (i.e hopefully more than
just figurehead) chinese dissidents. The document is available as
/som.zip Take care, xxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: Sent: Sunday, December
31, 2006 11:20 PM To: Subject: Re: advisory board inquiry [wikileaks]
Hi xxxxxxxxxxx. Thanks again for your comments. Rather than probing
positions on censorship, let's take a rest and look at why we
approached you. Advisory positions are just that -- advisory! If you
want to advise us to censor, then by all means do so. If you feel you
must, you can tell the world that was your advise. An advisory board
that has a uniformity of opinion does not give good advise. We (board)
are all young people. We're not rusted on. You will be heard. Since the
role is only advisory we may do something else. You may resign at
anytime. On 30.12.2006, at 02:22, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: We may have
a basic disagreement that I would describe this way by analogy: I
respect and admire John Young and I check his cryptome.org website
every day. But I also think he is irresponsible when he publishes maps
and images of the homes of government officials. If such actions were
"automated," that would not be an improvement. This is an argument
for doing away with the camera or the internet. Whether you buy such
an argument depends, not on such stuff happening, not even on it
happening more, but rather the ratio of good outcomes to bad. At least,
so it seems to us. Wikipedia has true material people would rather was
not universally known. Yet, we can see, like the camera, the great
reach of these inventions has been a boon for mankind. We think WL
will be far less "sectarian" than Cryptome so the above ratio will be
more favourable to us than Cryptome. I know you would prefer JY to
censor, but given that he doesn't -- what's your position? Qualified
support, or desire for its abolishment?
To: From: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:29:51 +1100 [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.]
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx's blog entry seems to have triggered off media
interest. This premature and may distract us from our goals. We need
to think quickly and carefully about how to channel it.
From: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:05:34 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Hi
xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Thank you for your letter. We're surprised by the very
early press interest , which we would have welcomed later, but which is
now difficult for us, as it will affect our delicate negotiations with
the Open Society Institute and other funding bodies. But as several
journalists have contacted us now, there's clearly no stopping it, so
we'll try do our best to help you. 1. WL was founded by chinese
dissidents, mathematicians and startup company technologists, from the
US, Taiwan, Europe, Australia and South Africa. 1.1 Our advisory
board, which is still forming, includes representatives from expat
Russian and Tibetan refugee communities, reporters, a former US
intelligence analyst and cryptographers. 2. There are currently 22
people directly involved in the project. 3. We haven't sought public
feedback so far, but dissident communities have been been very gracious
with their assistance. 4. The wiki does not require registration and
the users behaves in the same manner as the Wikipedia. You can't see
the wiki on www.wikileaks.org, because the public launch date is at
least a month away. 5. Wikileaks integrates a number of cryptographic
technologies into Wikipedia to create anonymity and censorship
resistance while retaining most of Wikipedia's ease of use and
performance including modified versions of http://freenetproject.org,
http://tor.eff.org, PGP and software of our own design. 6. The
prototype has been successful in testing, but there are still many
demands required before we have the scale required for a full public
deployment. These include additional funding, the support of further
dissident communities, human rights groups, reporters and media
representative bodies (as "consumers" of leaks), language
regionalization, volunteer editors/analysts and server operators. 7.
Our roots are in dissident communities and our focus is on non-western
authoritarian regimes. Consequently we believe a politically motivated
legal attack on us would be seen as a grave error in western
administrations. However, we are prepared, structurally and technically
to deal with all legal attacks. We design the software, and promote its
human rights agenda, but the servers are run by anonymous volunteers.
Because we have no commercial interest in the software, there is no
need to restrict its distribution. In the very unlikely event that we
were to face coercion to make the software censorship friendly, there
are many others who will continue the work in other jurisdictions. We
favour, and uphold, ethical behaviour in all circumstances. We do not
believe in unquestioning obedience to authority in all circumstances.
Every person is the ultimate arbiter of justice in their own
conscience. Where injustice reigns and is enshrined in law, there is a
place for principled civil disobedience. Where the simple act of
distributing information may embarrass authoritarian power structures
or expose oppression or major crimes, we recognise a right, indeed a
duty, to perform that act. Such whistleblowing often involves major
personal risk. Just like whistleblower protection laws in some
jurisdictions, this project provides means and opportunity to minimise
such risks. All the best for the new year, On 04.01.2007, at 08:35,
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: Hi, I'm a reporter at National Journal’s
Technology Daily. For tomorrow's edition, I'm working on a story about
your "Wikileaks" venture. Since you created the site, your input is
critical to the story. ***THE DEADLINE IS 1:00 P.M. ET TOMORROW
(THURSDAY)*** Do you think you can meet the deadline? If so, here
are my questions. Thanks. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Who founded Wikileaks? What
kind of background does the founder(s) have? How many people are
operating the Web site? What kind of feedback have you gotten so far?
I'm still learning about wikis. Does your wiki require registration or
passwords? Why did you make this decision? From a technological
standpoint, what makes your wiki "uncensorable?" What's next for the
site? Are you concerned about any legal consequences to attempting this
sort of project? Why or why not? Feel free to add anything.
xxxxxxxxxxxx, National Journal's Technology Daily
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 05:41:07 -0800 To: From: John Young <jya[a
t]pipeline.com> [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist
for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly
in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is housed at
riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established
lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Aftergood's report was unexpected,
particularly for showing wikileaks.org was active and the first
document was available. When did access become public, and was that
announced here? Or did Aftergood release private information, say in
disagreement with WL purposes. His comments on WL were disdainful,
and appear to have been made to buttress his own endeavor as more
honorable and respectable -- he has a habit of doing that, but so do
others who cherish their reputation (and carefully nuture support of
those who really have a problem with uncontrolled information as if it
is "dangerous to go too far, yadda, yadda."). Reporters, and keep in
mind they are competitors with WL as much as any keepers of secrets and
peddlers of inside information, (all obsessed with appearing to be
"responsible" arbiters of what information gets published) will most
certainly dig for unfriendly aspects of WL to gain reader attention
and to show they are not complicit in WL unrespectable intentions.
Some will promise one thing to get information and do the opposite for
publication. Some will fuck you for failing to do what they asked.
Expect agents of the authorities to pry into WL by way of journalists,
supporters, funders, advisory board members; that is customary for
those hoping to smoke out opposition. Expect smears, lies, forgeries,
betrayal, bribes, and the host of common tools used to suppress
dissent. Expect taunts, insults, ridicule, praise, admiration,
obsequiousness, arrogance, skepticism, demands for who the fuck are
you, I need the information for an urgent deadline. Expect accusations
that someone else associated with WL has already told me such and such
so why are you being so coy? Expect much flattery and disdain. Beware
of disclosing private information as a means to recruit. Beware of
releasing information about WL founders and supporters, that will be
grist for the truth twisters. Keep anonymous as possible or WL is
doomed. This discussion list is going to be leaked. Anonymize,
anonymize every communication with the press and potential recruits.
Somebody is going to come at me as the name on the NSI registry. The
less I know about WL people the better. And I know for sure that
everyone associated with WL is a bald-faced liar, an agent of the
authorities and the worst of the worst.
To: From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 02:07:36 +1100 Subject: [WL] Re:
Reporter wondering... [This is a restricted internal development
mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that
word directly in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is
housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an
established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Deadline not till next
week...xxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Reporter Science Magazine >>>
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 01/03 11:25 PM >>> Some answers to other
questions: On 04.01.2007, at 15:08, Wikileaks wrote: > Hi
xxxxxxxxxxxx. We're surprised and unprepared by all the early media >
interest. What's your deadline? We're mostly mathematicians. We > like
Science. > > On 04.01.2007, at 08:59, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >>
..who are you? I cover various topics for science magazine and am >>
interested in your aims and background for perhaps a short article on
>> the effort. >> >> xxxxxxxxxxxx, Reporter >> Science Magazine >> I
am trying to reach someone from Wikileaks for a short article I am
writing for tomorrow (1/4). My questions include: How long has the site
been in the works? When will it go live? What portion of the 1.1
million documents you mention is from the U.S. government? How do you
respond to criticism that automated leaking of documents is
irresponsible? Aren't some leaks, such as one designed to mislead, bad?
Dear xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. I hope the following helps. Presently none of
the 1.1 million documents are directly from western governments.
However, because of the inter-connectedness of governments around the
world, there are documents sent from the US and other western
governments to other governments in our collection. Misleading leaks
-- already well placed in the main stream media. WL is of no additional
assistance to them. If they're of political significance, they will be
very closely collaboratively analyzed by hundreds of wikipedia editors
in a way main stream media leaked documents could never dream of. See
our somali leak for an early example. Best for the new year, Thank
you for your letter. We're surprised by the very early press interest ,
which we would have welcomed later, but which is now difficult for us,
as it will affect our delicate negotiations with the Open Society
Institute and other funding bodies. But as several journalists have
contacted us now, there's clearly no stopping it, so we'll try do our
best to help you. 1. WL was founded by chinese dissidents,
mathematicians and startup company technologists, from the US, Taiwan,
Europe, Australia and South Africa. 1.1 Our advisory board, which is
still forming, includes representatives from expat Russian and Tibetan
refugee communities, reporters, a former US intelligence analyst and
cryptographers. 2. There are currently 22 people directly involved in
the project. 3. We haven't sought public feedback so far, but dissident
communities have been been very gracious with their assistance. 4. The
wiki does not require registration and the users behaves in the same
manner as the Wikipedia. You can't see the wiki on www.wikileaks.org,
because the public launch date is at least a month away. 5. Wikileaks
integrates a number of cryptographic technologies into Wikipedia to
create anonymity and censorship resistance while retaining most of
Wikipedia's ease of use and performance including modified versions of
http://freenetproject.org, http://tor.eff.org, PGP and software of our
own design. 6. The prototype has been successful in testing, but there
are still many demands required before we have the scale required for a
full public deployment. These include additional funding, the support
of further dissident communities, human rights groups, reporters and
media representative bodies (as "consumers" of leaks), language
regionalization, volunteer editors/analysts and server operators. 7.
Our roots are in dissident communities and our focus is on non- western
authoritarian regimes. Consequently we believe a politically motivated
legal attack on us would be seen as a grave error in western
administrations. However, we are prepared, structurally and technically
to deal with all legal attacks. We design the software, and promote its
human rights agenda, but the servers are run by anonymous volunteers.
Because we have no commercial interest in the software, there is no
need to restrict its distribution. In the very unlikely event that we
were to face coercion to make the software censorship friendly, there
are many others who will continue the work in other jurisdictions. We
favour, and uphold, ethical behaviour in all circumstances. We do not
believe in unquestioning obedience to authority in all circumstances.
Every person is the ultimate arbiter of justice in their own
conscience. Where injustice reigns and is enshrined in law, there is a
place for principled civil disobedience. Where the simple act of
distributing information may embarrass authoritarian power structures
or expose oppression or major crimes, we recognise a right, indeed a
duty, to perform that act. Such whistleblowing often involves major
personal risk. Just like whistleblower protection laws in some
jurisdictions, this project provides means and opportunity to minimise
such risks. All the best for the new year, Who founded Wikileaks?
What kind of background does the founder(s) have? How many people are
operating the Web site? What kind of feedback have you gotten so far?
I'm still learning about wikis. Does your wiki require registration or
passwords? Why did you make this decision? From a technological
standpoint, what makes your wiki "uncensorable?" What's next for the
site? Are you concerned about any legal consequences to attempting this
sort of project? Why or why not? Feel free to add anything.
To: From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 02:16:45 +1100 [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Hello
Wikileaks I just read about your project in the Federation of
American Scientists' "Secrecy News" newsletter and was wondering if you
could answer a few questions. If so, here goes: 1. Who is
behind the Wikileaks project (although that is probably a very dumb
question for an anonymizing service for leaked data). 2. Is this a
project backed by Wikipedia? 3. Will Wikileaks vet leaked documents
to ascertain a genuine public interest defence in hosting the leaked
documents or whether the leak is purely malicious, such as a business
plan leaked by a disgruntled employee? If so, who will do the vetting
and decide on its "genuineness"? If you'd rather talk, my number is
below. If you don't know New Scientist, it is a science and technology
newsweekly (50 years old last November) and we have 2 million print and
online readers, half of them in the US. My deadline is noon Friday
GMT. best regards xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | Chief
Technology Correspondent | New Scientist | London |
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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:12:52 -0500 From: To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Thanks.
One quick question: 1. Will the public be able to discuss and
contextualize the documents, visibly, on Wikileaks, similar to the way
people can post replies to blog entries online? (Some folks I've been
interviewing wondered whether the public will be able to participate in
a discussion of the authenticity of the documents, contextualize the
documents and point people to related documents)
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx National Journal's Technology Daily
From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 07:35:00 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Dear
xxxxxxxxxxxx. Thank very much for your support, which coming from Pogo
means a great deal to us. Although we are primarily targeted at non-
western governments, we think Pogo may have important advice for us on
what is needed in the US. We would like to invite Pogo to join our
initial advisory board either in an organizational or individual
capacity. Warmly, On 05.01.2007, at 03:23, xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hello wikileaks, I am so glad you are doing this. I had the same idea a
month or so ago but know nothing about wiki so wouldn’t even know where
it start. Please keep us informed of your progress. We will send leaks
your way! Founded in 1981, the Project On Government Oversight is an
independent nonprofit which investigates and exposes corruption and
other misconduct in order to achieve a more accountable federal
government.
From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 07:35:18 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Begin
forwarded message: From: Date: 5. Januar 2007 03:47:59 GMT+11:00 To:
Subject: interviews? Is anyone available to do a radio interview
regarding this project? -- xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Friday Morning After"
CKUT Radio, Montreal
To: From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 07:35:56 +1100 [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Begin
forwarded message: From: Date: 5. Januar 2007 04:55:02 GMT+11:00 To:
Subject: inquiry from the washington post Hello, I'd like to write an
item on Wikileaks for the Washington Post. Could someone please
contact me with more information about the site? My numbers are below.
Many thanks, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Washington Post
To: From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 07:50:28 +1100 [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Web site
aims to post government secrets By DANIEL FRIEDMAN January 04, 2007
Forget parking garages. Tomorrow’s Deep Throats can go wiki. A new Web
site that aims to encourage large-scale leaking of confidential
government documents by allowing anonymous disclosure could launch as
early as next month. Beneath a quotation from famed Pentagon Papers
leaker Daniel Ellsberg, www.Wikileaks.org says it seeks to increase
government transparency around the world by using “an uncensorable
version of Wikipedia for untraceable mass document leaking and
analysis.” Founded by a group that includes technologists and Chinese
dissidents, Wikileaks would promote democracy and prevent corruption,
and is aimed primarily at oppressive foreign regimes, according to
organizers. But the site says it also wants “to be of service to
those in the West who wish to reveal unethical behavior in their own
government and corporations.” The site is online but not yet
operating. In an e-mail, Wikileaks spokeswoman Hanna De Jong said
that about 22 people involved in the project are still testing the
prototype and seeking funding from groups like the Soros Foundation’s
Open Society Institute, which promotes democracy and human rights. De
Jong said Wikileaks’ advisory board includes journalists,
cryptographers, a former U.S. intelligence analyst and expatriates
from Russian and Tibetan refugee communities. The group says it has
already received more than 1 million documents. De Jong said none of
those come directly from Western governments, but documents sent from
the United States to other states are included. The site uses various
cryptographic technologies to allow anonymity while maintaining
Wikpedia’s easy use, she said. Spurred by the success of the online
encyclopedia Wikipedia, Web sites nicknamed “wikis” that allow
collaborative authoring by letting anyone edit content are
proliferating, even within government. Ohio’s Hamilton County, which
includes Cincinnati, recently launched an online directory of local
agencies that will be publicly maintained, allowing citizens to add
and delete information, for example. In October, the federal Office
of the Director of National Intelligence unveiled Intellipedia,
intended to improve intelligence sharing by letting authorized
analysts collaboratively edit content on the government’s classified
Intelink Web site. But Wikileaks is radically different. The site makes
broad claims regarding the value of unauthorized disclosures.
“Historically the most resilient form of open government is one where
leaking and publication is easy,” it says. “Public leaking, being an
act of ethical defection to the majority, is by nature a
democratizing force. Hence a system [that] enables everyone to leak
safely to a ready audience is the most cost effective means of
promoting good government.” But the initiative, sure to concern U.S.
officials who want to restrict access to documents, may go too far
even for government transparency advocates. Wikileaks’ intention to
allow anonymous publication of confidential records without oversight
by an accountable editor could cause leaks that invade privacy or
incite violence, Steven Aftergood, head of the Federation of American
Scientists’ Project on Government Secrecy, wrote Jan. 3 in his online
newsletter, Secrecy News. “I’m sort of waiting to see how it works in
practice,” Aftergood said in an interview. “But in principle I think
it’s much too indiscriminate and susceptible to abuse.” “There’s a
difference in unauthorized disclosure from an authoritarian state
versus disclosure from a democracy,” he said. “In a democratic
system, people have the opportunity to define their own disclosure
standards. If you violate those standards or encourage others to do
so then you are in effect undermining the democratic process.” De
Jong, however, said misleading leaks “are already well-placed in the
mainstream media. [Wikileaks] is of no additional assistance.”
Politically significant leaks will be “collaboratively analyzed by
hundreds of [Wikileaks] editors in a way mainstream media-leaked
documents could never dream of,” she said. She said the group is
prepared for legal attacks. “We design the software and promote its
human rights agenda, but the servers are run by anonymous
volunteers,” she wrote. “Because we have no commercial interest in
the software, there is no need to restrict its distribution. In the
very unlikely event that we were to face coercion to make the
software censorship-friendly, there are many others who would
continue the work in other jurisdictions.” E-mail: dfriedman[a
t]federaltimes.com Email this story to a friendf
To: From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:48:14 +1100 [This is a restricted
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do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Begin
forwarded message: > From: > Date: 5. Januar 2007 09:30:21 GMT+11:00 >
To: > Subject: RE: [WL] RE: article: wikileaks > > Hi
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, > > Thanks much. Here's what we published this
afternoon: > > Civil Liberties > Forthcoming 'Wiki' Aims To Leak,
Analyze Documents > by Aliya Sternstein > > A group of Chinese
dissidents and technologists from across > the world is designing an
"uncensorable" version of Wikipedia to > encourage untraceable, mass
leaks and analysis of documents from > authoritarian regimes, the
U.S. government and corporations. > Wikileaks.org, still under
construction, combines a > collaborative "wiki" software interface
with cryptographic > technologies to hide contributor identities and
block censors, said > Hanna De Jong, the organization's spokeswoman.
The protective > programming includes modified versions of the Tor
toolset from the > Electronic Frontier Foundation, The Free Network
Project, PGP and > Wikileaks' custom software. > Wikileaks'
primary targets are closed societies in Africa, > Asia and the Middle
East. "We also expect to be of assistance to > those in the West who
wish to reveal unethical behavior in their > own governments and
corporations," the site reads. > A wiki is basically a public Web
log that anyone with an > Internet browser can add to or modify.
Wikipedia is an online, self- > evolving encyclopedia updated by a
community of users. > Wikileaks was founded by Chinese dissidents,
mathematicians > and startup techies in the United States, Australia,
Europe, South > Africa and Taiwan. Its growing advisory board
contains > representatives from Russian and Tibetan refugee
communities, > reporters, one former U.S. intelligence analyst and
cryptographers, > De Jong said. > "We are prepared, structurally
and technically to deal with > all legal attacks," she said. >
"In the very unlikely event that we were to face coercion to > make
the software censorship friendly, there are many others who > will
continue the work in other jurisdictions," De Jong added. The >
servers are run by anonymous volunteers, and Wikileaks' software >
will be disseminated for free, if necessary. > Some e-democracy
advocates question the value of publishing > documents without
attribution or authentication. > "The government could be putting
up information to discredit > dissidents," said Leslie Harris,
executive director at the Center > for Democracy and Technology.
"In an oppressive government, we have > no way to know if it's an
attempt at disinformation." She also > noted the dangers of posting
libelous information or sensitive, > personal information on an
unmediated site. > Harris said she hopes the public will be able
to discuss and > contextualize the documents on Wikileaks in a manner
similar to the > way people can make criticisms on blog entries.
> "I think it's very important that there be opportunities for >
people to discuss whether the document is authentic," she said. >
"You should be able to comment visibly about the document and point >
people to other documents." > Wikileaks recently invited Steven
Aftergood, a government > secrecy researcher at the Federation of
American Scientists, to > serve on its advisory board. He publishes
the e-mail newsletter, > "Secrecy News," which often provides links
to hard-to-obtain > documents. > Aftergood said he has not yet
decided whether to get involved > with the venture. "I still want to
see how they launch, what the > focus is and if they're putting out
good material ... and if the > positive outweighs the negative," he
said. > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > National Journal's Technology Daily >
From: > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:18 PM > To: > Subject: Re:
[WL] RE: article: wikileaks > > Dear xxxxxxxxxxxx, > > I like your
summery. > > Yes, this is WIKIleaks. The protective aspects are there
merely to > remove the fear of involvement in this worthy activity.
For > instance, in the case of the example Somalia analysis we
expect > thousands of refugees from the Somali, Ethiopian and Chinese
expat > communities to easily outstrip our example analysis. In this
manner > the political relevance of the documents and their
verisimilitude > will be revealed by a cast of thousands. >
To: From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:48:48 +1100 [This is a restricted
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do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Begin
forwarded message: From: Date: 5. Januar 2007 10:08:10 GMT+11:00 To:
Subject: Media request I'm a freelance reporter who writes for Wired
News, Salon, and other publications. I'm interested in writing a story
about the Wikileaks site and was wondering if there's someone available
to speak with me about it. You can reach me at 510.601.0948 or send me
a number where I can reach you and I'll call you. Regards,
xxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:36:51 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] We can
turn this unexpected difficulty into a great blessing by being crafty
and exuberant in our attentions over the next few days. The hunger for
freedom and truth is clearly so intense that despite having little
more than "we're working on it" and a nice example (that few seem
bother to read in their quest for the salacious) off it goes on its
own exponential of media read, write and rewrite. Random quotes (not
from us) and rephrasing will lead to the most salacious evolving in
the galapagos of quote, edit and requote. What this means is that we
have to answer questions before they're asked and we have to answer
them with statements that optimize max (journalistic lazynes + quote
sexyness). Analogously, the public sphere is warm milk, into which has
leaked our culture. Bacterial growth follows an exponential -- left
unmolested it would become the congealed yogurt of our desires, but
random innocents and malefactors alike are injecting their their own
bacterial strain into the mix. The impact of early strains of
information release (ours and others) will be fantastically amplified
by the exponential process. Consequently we must expend as much
energies on this IMMEDIATELY as we have inorder to set path of future
perceptions, which will otherwise require far more energies to
correct even a day later. Since we can not seal the public sphere from
the influence of others, our only recourse is to continually inject
our informational strain into the ferment. If we keep our strain (our
public positioning ) consistent and quotable we should come to
dominate the culture when opposed by relatively random influences of
others. And despite JYAs seasoned fears, our opponents thus far are
essentially uncoordinated; they do not strike with vigor at the same
point. Here follows our blessing. Because WL has not yet generated ANY
specific enemies (at least outside of China and Somalia), attacks are
generalized ("pro- censorship") , unmotivated, limp-wristed and lack
precision and common direction. This will not be the case once we
release substantial material. That will invoke enemies with specific
grievances. Our previous desire to splash forth only with a fully
operational system with content would have generated both specific
opposition and fears by example. Hence we have a great opportunity --
to push our desired perceptions of what WL is into the world, to set
the key in which future bars of our song are to be played by the
public orchestra, BEFORE it faces any serious opposition.
Subject: Re: [WL] Fwd: inquiry from the washington post Date: Fri, 5
Jan 2007 15:38:03 +1100 To: John Young <jya[a t]pipeline.com> From:
John --- no ship jumps, plank walks or keel hauls. Though some here
may want to feed the sniveling holier than thou After Good Comes Bad
to the swirling creatures of the deep, we will continue to project
puppy dog eye rolls and the greatest generosity, acceptance and
respect. Can you reveal further analysis and advice on which "ethical
statement" you are referring to?
To: From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:09:38 +1100 [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Dearest
friends, We have decided to pre-empt questions diverted to others
under the less obvious (than a press release) projection of a FAQ.
Please quickly google stories (including news/blog search) for wl
(many now!). Find all the gut directly asked questions and extract
the real question in the reporters mind that motivated the quote and
send them in. For example if a story quotes 'Farrah believes the
impact on Iran will be X' , derive the reporters internal question
"What will be the impact on Iran/Islamic countries/axis of evil?"
What other questions do you predict will be asked? Answer some if you
have time, but send questions quickly! xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:15:37 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Mention
forgot! Since most references are <24 hours new, they are not in the
main google index! Search blogs + news + groups (under "more")
From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 19:52:46 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Any idea
what this may mean? Wikia Inc. 200 2nd Ave. S Suite 306
St. Petersburg, Florida 33701 United States Registered
through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name:
WIKILEAKS.NET Created on: 03-Jan-07 Expires on: 04-Jan-09
Last Updated on: Administrative Contact: Wales,
Jimmy jasonr[a t]bomis.com Wikia Inc. 200 2nd Ave. S
Suite 306 St. Petersburg, Florida 33701 United
States 17273886691
From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:24:33 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] > I'd ask,
if I were you. Or perhaps I will. > Feel free xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 22:30:35 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Provided
Wales, Inc. doesn't use these domains for content, the rego certainly
aids us in projection. It's interesting they they seem to be directly
registered by Wales, NOT by the Wikipedia foundation i.e compare the
records to wikipedia. {org,com,net} and mediawiki.{org,com,net}
What's unusual is that he hasn't notified us.
From: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:41:58 +0100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] On Jan 5,
2007, at 12:30 PM, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Provided Wales,
Inc. doesn't use these domains for content, the > rego certainly aids
us in projection. > > It's interesting they they seem to be directly
registered by Wales, > NOT by the Wikipedia foundation i.e compare
the records to > wikipedia.{org,com,net} and mediawiki.{org,com,net}
> > What's unusual is that he hasn't notified us. Read carefully. This
doesn't seem to be related to Wikipedia, but rather to Wikia, Inc.
From http://www.aboutus.org/Wikia.com: "Free wiki hosting from Wikia,
using the same MediaWiki software that runs Wikipedia. ''Wikipedia is
the Encyclopedia. Wikia is the rest of the library.'' Wikia are wiki
communities creating free content with the MediaWiki software. These
are hosted for free by Wikia, Inc., the company which runs the
project. Anyone is free to start a new Wikia in accordance with the
creation policy and terms of use. Wikia was founded by Angela Beesley
and Jimmy Wales, originally under the name "Wikicities", in October
2004. It celebrated its first birthday on November 2, 2005.
Wikicities relaunched as "Wikia" in March 2006 (see the press release
for details). News about the site can be found at news and press
releases. See also the reasons to use Wikia, what Wikia is not, and
then explore or browse the site." Seeing this domain being
registered to Wikia seems to indicate that he *IS* willing to help
us. We should inquire nonetheless. The email address for the Admin
contact looks valid (Jason Richey). Cheers,
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 05:40:02 -0800 To: From: John Young <jya[a
t]pipeline.com> [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist
for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly
in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is housed at
riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established
lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Wales is attempting to protect his
investment. He's businessman before all else, meaning without scruples.
Consider his action an attack on WL, perhaps to be followed by others
if it threatens his commercial operation of reputation building
pretending to be a public service -- like giving out free cigarettes.
Spies and cops do that too with leaks and planted incriminating
material. One of the happy consequences of WL is that participants
will be offered payoffs for inside information, bribes, job offers, fat
gov contracts, promises of being allowed into black chambers.
Dedicated public service offers those bountiful rewards and few can
resist the temptation when presented with alternative consequences of
possessing forbidden goods. Not long after Cryptome was set up and
got a bit of attention from the authorities a woman called with an
urgent request for help get her boy friend out of a jam. Wanted to
meet in an out of the way place. Claimed she needed help hiding the
guy's computer files before the cops found them. Said he was charged
with suspicion of downloading kiddie porn using his mom's computer,
had not done so, only adult material, must have been somebody else, or
the illegal stuff was buried in the legal without his knowledge. She
cried, lots of tears, said she was desperate and terrified of being
arrested herself, had no one to turn to, didn't understand computers,
could I help, heard about me from someone who read something on the
Internet. Sure I said, happy to oblige. God bless you, she said, I
didn't know there were people like you. She said she'd arrange to have
the data sent to me. I said great, just make sure there's no kiddie
porn in it. Nothing ever came, at least not that I could identify.
There have been a couple of dozen other such sting attempts, and
probably a lot more than that made it past our inept filtering. Could
be the planted incriminating material is throughout our archives, ready
to be harvested when needed. Some setups of targets run for years,
even decades, or indefinitely. Some are leaked to scare potential
miscreants. Airing means of suppressing dissent by a slew of tricks is
a WL worthwhile.
From: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 01:00:39 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] I think
JY maybe right -- Wales has scalped it for his commercial Wiki
company, perhaps even automatically.
From: To: Subject: Re: [WL] Wales registers wl.net, wl.com, (others?)
[This is a restricted internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-
a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly in these
discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net,
an activist collective in Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty
of backbone.] xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > >> I'd ask, if I were you. Or
perhaps I will. >> > Feel free xxxxxxxxxxxxxx. I have. BTW, the New
Scientist person wants to talk to you. Is that possible?
To: From: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 01:57:46 +1100 [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Fairly
sectarian (paranoids) but a couple of good question in the mix: Some
obvious questions which spring to mind about wikileaks.org: 1) Are you
serious ? 2) Who are you ? 3) How can you be trusted ? 4) Who is
funding you ? 5) Why is your website hosted on a Google server ? 6)
How is anyone in, say, China, ever going to see it ? 7) How do you
prove that you are not working for, or have been infiltrated by
United States (or other) intelligence or law enforcement agencies or
by political parties or religious cults ? 8) How can document leakers
and whistleblowers trust you are not simply running a honeypot
intelligence gathering operation ? 9) Why do you mention a PGP public
encryption key, with some obscure GPG command line instructions,
when your PGP key is not actually to be found on the major PGP public
keyservers e.g. ldap://keyserver.pgp.com http://www.keyserver.net
http://pgp.mit.edu/ It can be found on some but not all of the
keyservers via http://www.pgp.net However, having to hunt through
multiple PGP Keyservers is not exactly user friendly, 10) Why not
publish your PGP key on your website ? 11) If you are basing your
system on Wikipedia, then how are you going to solve the problems
such as Denial of Service attacks, and the editing and counter
editing / censorship warfare which Wik ipedia suffers from ? It is
disputable that a Wiki is "easy to use" for "non-technical people" -
formatting certainly is not trivial, for anybody used to a Word
Processor or even HTML syntax. 12)What are you doing about
Communications Data Traffic Analysis ? 13) What precautions do you
take to anonymise the sources of your leaked documents, especially
with regard to meta-data in Microsoft Word or Adobe .pdf files,
Microsoft SmarTags, EXIF data in digital im ages, embedded thumbnails
in digital images, characteristic wear patterns on facsimile or
printed documents images, ineptly pixellated or digitally blacked out
redacted or censored parts of documents e tc. ? Your Somali example
includes meta data which mentions an easy to Google name "Captain
Weli", which could be a "Joe job" reputation attack on ex-captain of
Somalia National Airlines, Sheikh Mohamed Moham ud (Captain Weli)"
14)Why do you not have an SSL v3 / TLS v1 encrypted version of your
website ? 15) Why should a document leaker or whistleblower use your
service, in preference to, say 15) Why should a document leaker or
whistleblower use your service, in preference to, say a)Posting to a
distributed Usenet newsgroup or groups b) Sending a document to
http://cryptome.org c) Publishing a video on YouTube d) Publishing
their own blog 16) Why will your system succeed, when various anti-
censorship schemes and software projects such as those by Hactivismo
or even Tor have failed to catch on in a very widespread fashion ?
To: From: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 03:13:08 +1100 [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.]
Disarming. FH along with NED are notorious US State/CIA money
launderers. The goal is not to get them to accept, although that might
be rather interesting, but to make them feel we are on the same "side"
by the early approach and enemy of my enemy is my friend. Begin
forwarded message: From: Date: 6. Januar 2007 02:31:36 GMT+11:00 To:
Subject: RE: advisory board inquiry I find your project interesting;
however, I would need to get a little more information before I can
discuss it with others in the organization. For example, who is
currently involved in the project? Are you affiliated with another
organization, or is Wikileaks a new group? How do you plan on ensuring
that the documents posted on Wikileaks are legitimate documents and not
forgeries? I look forward to your reply. _______________________
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Freedom House Website Coordinator 1301 Connecticut
Ave. NW, Fl. 6 Washington, DC 20036 tel: 202.747.7017 fax: 202.293.2840
-----Original Message----- From: Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:29
PM To: Info Subject: advisory board inquiry Please pass this note
around to the relevant good people at FH. WikiLeaks is developing an
uncensorable version of WikiPedia for untraceable mass document leaking
and discussion. Our primary targets are those highly oppressive regimes
in China, Russia and central eurasia, but we also expect to be of
assistance to those in the west who wish to reveal corruption in their
own governments and corporations. We aim for maximum political impact;
this means our technology is fast and usable by non-technical people.
We have received over a million documents so far. We plan to
numerically eclipse the content the english wikipedia with leaked
documents. [http://www.wikileaks.org/] We are looking for one or two
initial advisory board member from FH who may advise on the following:
1. the needs of FH as consumer of leaks exposing business and
political corruption 2. the needs for sources of leaks as experienced
by FH 3. FH recommendations for other advisory board members 4.
general advice on funding, coallition building and decentralised
operations and political framing These positions will initially
be unpaid, but we feel the role may be of significant interest to FH.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ps. Merry Xmas and a Happy New year!
From: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:43:44 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Hallo
xxxxxxxxxxxxx, I believe you spoke to xxxxxxxxxxxx? We can do an
interview, but this won't make your deadline. Here are some answers
we've prepared for you. I hope you find them useful. Kind Regards,
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx What is WikiLeaks.org? Why "wikify" leaking?
WikiLeaks is an uncensorable version of wikipedia for untraceable mass
document leaking and analysis. It combines the protection and anonymity
of cutting-edge cryptographic technologies with the transparency and
simplicity of a wiki interface. Principled leaking has changed the
course of history for the better; it can alter the course of history in
the present; it can lead us to a better future. Consider Daniel
Ellsberg, working within the US government during the Vietnam War. He
comes into contact with the Pentagon Papers, a meticulously kept record
of military and strategic planning throughout the war. Those papers
reveal the depths to which the US government has sunk in deceiving the
population about the war. Yet the public and the media know nothing of
this urgent and shocking information. Indeed, secrecy laws are being
used to keep the public ignorant of gross dishonesty practiced by their
government. In spite of those secrecy laws and at great personal risk,
Ellsberg manages to disseminate the Pentagon papers to journalists and
to the world. Despite facing criminal charges, eventually dropped, the
release of the Pentagon papers shocks the world, exposes the
government, and helps to shorten the war and save thousands of lives.
The power of principled leaking to embarrass governments, corporations
and institutions is amply demonstrated through recent history. Public
scrutiny of otherwise unaccountable and secretive institutions
pressures them to act ethically. What official will chance a secret,
corrupt transaction when the public is likely to find out? What
repressive plan will be carried out when it is revealed to the
citizenry, not just of its own country, but the world? When the risks
of embarrassment through openness and honesty increase, the tables are
turned against conspiracy, corruption, exploitation and oppression.
Open government answers injustice rather than causing it. Open
government exposes and undoes corruption. Open governance is the most
cost effective method of promoting good governance. Today, with
authoritarian governments in power around much of the world, increasing
authoritarian tendencies in democratic governments, and increasing
amounts of power vested in unaccountable corporations, the need for
openness and democratization is greater than ever. WikiLeaks is a tool
to satisfy that need. WikiLeaksreduces the risk to potential leakers
and improves the analysis and dissemination of leaked documents.
WikiLeaks provides simple and straightforward means for anonymous and
untraceable leaking of documents. At the same time, WikiLeaks opens
leaked documents up to a much more exacting scrutiny than any media
organization or intelligence agency could provide: the scrutiny of a
worldwide community of informed wiki editors. Instead of a couple of
academic specialists, WikiLeaks will provide a forum for the entire
global community to examine any document relentlessly for credibility,
plausibility, veracity and falsifiability. They will be able to
interpret documents and explain their relevance to the public. If a
document is leaked from the Chinese government, the entire Chinese
dissident community can freely scrutinize and discuss it; if a document
is leaked from Somalia, the entire Somali refugee community can analyze
it and put it in context. And so on. WikiLeaks may become the most
powerful "intelligence agency" on earth -- an intelligence agency of
the people. It will be an open source, democratic intelligence agency.
But it will be far more principled, and far less parochial than any
governmental intelligence agency; consequently, it will be more
accurate, and more relevant. It will have no commercial or national
interests at heart; its only interests will be truth and freedom of
information. Unlike the covert activities of state intelligence
agencies, WikiLeaks will rely upon the power of overt fact to inform
citizens about the truths of their world. WikiLeaks will be the outlet
for every government official, every bureaucrat, every corporate
worker, who becomes privy to embarrassing information which the
institution wants to hide but the public needs to know. What conscience
cannot contain, and institutional secrecy unjustly conceals, WikiLeaks
can broadcast to the world. WikiLeaks will be a forum for the ethical
defection of unaccountable and abusive power to the people. How will
WikiLeaks operate? To the user, WikiLeaks will look very much like
wikipedia. Anybody can post to it, anybody can edit it. No technical
knowledge is required. Leakers can post documents anonymously and
untraceably. Users can publicly discuss documents and analyze their
credibility and veracity. Users can discuss interpretations and context
and collaboratively formulate collective publications. Users can read
and write explanatory articles on leaks along with background material
and context. The political relevance of documents and their
verisimilitude will be revealed by a cast of thousands. WikiLeaks will
also incorporate advanced cryptographic technologies for anonymity and
untraceability. Those who provide leaked information may face severe
risks, whether of political repercussions, legal sanctions or physical
violence. Accordingly, extremely sophisticated mathematical and
cryptographic techniques will be used to secure privacy, anonymity and
untraceability. For the technically minded, WikiLeaks integrates
technologies including modified versions of FreeNet, , PGP and software
of our own design. WikiLeaks will be deployed in a way that makes it
impervious to political and legal attacks. In this sense it is
uncensorable. Who is behind WikiLeaks? WikiLeaks was founded by
Chinese dissidents, mathematicians and startup company technologists,
from the US, Taiwan, Europe, Australia and South Africa. Our advisory
board, which is still forming, includes representatives from expatriate
Russian and Tibetan refugee communities, reporters, a former US
intelligence analyst and cryptographers. There are currently 22 people
directly involved in the project and counting. What is your
relationship to wikipedia? WikiLeaks has no formal relationship to
wikipedia. However both employ the same wiki interface and technology.
Both share the same radically democratic philosophy that allowing
anyone to be an author or editor leads to a vast and accurate
collective intelligence and knowledge. Both place their trust in an
informed community of citizens. What wikipedia is to the encyclopedia,
WikiLeaks will be to leaks. Wikipedia provides a positive example on
which WikiLeaks is based. The success of wikipedia in providing
accurate and up-to-date information has been stunning and surprising to
many. Wikipedia shows that the collective wisdom of an informed
community of users may produce massive volumes of accurate knowledge in
a rapid, democratic and transparent manner. WikiLeaks aims to harness
this phenomenon to provide fast and accurate dissemination,
verification, analysis, interpretation and explanation of leaked
documents, for the benefit of people all around the world. What is
WikiLeakss present stage of development? WikiLeaks has developed a
prototype which has been successful in testing, but there are still
many demands required before we have the scale required for a full
public deployment. We require additional funding, the support of
further dissident communities, human rights groups, reporters and media
representative bodies (as consumers of leaks), language
regionalization, volunteer editors/analysts and server operators. We
have received over 1.1 million documents so far. We plan to numerically
eclipse the content of the English wikipedia with leaked documents.
Anyone interested in helping us out with any of the above should
contact us by email at [insert address here]. When will WikiLeaks go
live? We cannot yet give an exact date. We estimate February or March
2007. Couldnt leaking involve invasions of privacy? Couldnt mass
leaking of documents be irresponsible? Arent some leaks deliberately
false and misleading? Providing a forum for freely posting information
involves the potential for abuse, but measures can be taken to minimize
any potential harm. The simplest and most effective countermeasure is a
worldwide community of informed users and editors who can scrutinize
and discuss leaked documents. Concerns about privacy, irresponsibility
and false information also arise with wikipedia. On wikipedia,
irresponsible posting or editing of material, or posting of false
material, can be reversed by other users, and the results have been
extremely satisfying and reassuring. There is no reason to expect any
different from WikiLeaks. Indeed, as discovered with wikipedia to the
surprise of many, the collective wisdom of an informed community of
users may provide rapid and accurate dissemination, verification and
analysis. Furthermore, misleading leaks and misinformation are already
well placed in the mainstream media, as recent history shows, an
obvious example being the lead-up to the Iraq war. Peddlers of
misinformation will find themselves undone by WikiLeaks, equipped as it
is to scrutinize leaked documents in a way that no mainstream media
outlet is capable of. An analogus example is this excellent unweaving
of the British government's politically motivated additions to an
intelligence dossier on Iraq. The dossier was cited by Colin Powell in
his address to the United Nations the same month to justify the pending
US invasion of Iraq. In any case, our overarching goal is to provide a
forum where embarrassing information can expose injustice. All policy
will be formulated with this goal in mind. Is WikiLeaks concerned about
any legal consequences? Our roots are in dissident communities and our
focus is on non-western authoritarian regimes. Consequently we believe
a politically motivated legal attack on us would be seen as a grave
error in western administrations. However, we are prepared,
structurally and technically, to deal with all legal attacks. We design
the software, and promote its human rights agenda, but the servers are
run by anonymous volunteers. Because we have no commercial interest in
the software, there is no need to restrict its distribution. In the
very unlikely event that we were to face coercion to make the software
censorship friendly, there are many others who will continue the work
in other jurisdictions. Is leaking ethical? We favour, and uphold,
ethical behavior in all circumstances. Every person is the ultimate
arbiter of justice in their own conscience. Where there is a lack of
freedom and injustice is enshrined in law, there is a place for
principled civil disobedience. Where the simple act of distributing
information may embarrass a regime or expose crime, we recognize a
right, indeed a duty, to perform that act. Such whistleblowing normally
involves major personal risk. Just like whistleblower protection laws
in some jurisdictions, WikiLeaks provides means and opportunity to
minimize such risks. We propose that every authoritarian government,
every oppressive institution, and even every corrupt corporation, be
subject to the pressure, not merely of international diplomacy or
freedom of information laws, not even of quadrennial elections, but of
something far stronger: the individual consciences of the people within
them. On 05.01.2007, at 02:16, Wikileaks wrote: Hello Wikileaks I
just read about your project in the Federation of American Scientists'
"Secrecy News" newsletter and was wondering if you could answer a few
questions. If so, here goes: 1. Who is behind the Wikileaks
project (although that is probably a very dumb question for an
anonymizing service for leaked data). 2. Is this a project backed by
Wikipedia? 3. Will Wikileaks vet leaked documents to ascertain a
genuine public interest defence in hosting the leaked documents or
whether the leak is purely malicious, such as a business plan leaked by
a disgruntled employee? If so, who will do the vetting and decide on
its "genuineness"? If you'd rather talk, my number is below. If you
don't know New Scientist, it is a science and technology newsweekly (50
years old last November) and we have 2 million print and online
readers, half of them in the US. My deadline is noon Friday GMT.
best regards xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | Chief
Technology Correspondent | New Scientist | London |
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From: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 10:43:53 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Hello
xxxxxxxxxxxx, here are some notes/answers we've prepared. We can do an
interview to if you have time, over the weekend if need be. Kind
Regards, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx What is WikiLeaks.org? Why "wikify" leaking?
WikiLeaks is an uncensorable version of wikipedia for untraceable mass
document leaking and analysis. It combines the protection and anonymity
of cutting-edge cryptographic technologies with the transparency and
simplicity of a wiki interface. Principled leaking has changed the
course of history for the better; it can alter the course of history in
the present; it can lead us to a better future. Consider Daniel
Ellsberg, working within the US government during the Vietnam War. He
comes into contact with the Pentagon Papers, a meticulously kept record
of military and strategic planning throughout the war. Those papers
reveal the depths to which the US government has sunk in deceiving the
population about the war. Yet the public and the media know nothing of
this urgent and shocking information. Indeed, secrecy laws are being
used to keep the public ignorant of gross dishonesty practiced by their
government. In spite of those secrecy laws and at great personal risk,
Ellsberg manages to disseminate the Pentagon papers to journalists and
to the world. Despite facing criminal charges, eventually dropped, the
release of the Pentagon papers shocks the world, exposes the
government, and helps to shorten the war and save thousands of lives.
The power of principled leaking to embarrass governments, corporations
and institutions is amply demonstrated through recent history. Public
scrutiny of otherwise unaccountable and secretive institutions
pressures them to act ethically. What official will chance a secret,
corrupt transaction when the public is likely to find out? What
repressive plan will be carried out when it is revealed to the
citizenry, not just of its own country, but the world? When the risks
of embarrassment through openness and honesty increase, the tables are
turned against conspiracy, corruption, exploitation and oppression.
Open government answers injustice rather than causing it. Open
government exposes and undoes corruption. Open governance is the most
cost effective method of promoting good governance. Today, with
authoritarian governments in power around much of the world, increasing
authoritarian tendencies in democratic governments, and increasing
amounts of power vested in unaccountable corporations, the need for
openness and democratization is greater than ever. WikiLeaks is a tool
to satisfy that need. WikiLeaksreduces the risk to potential leakers
and improves the analysis and dissemination of leaked documents.
WikiLeaks provides simple and straightforward means for anonymous and
untraceable leaking of documents. At the same time, WikiLeaks opens
leaked documents up to a much more exacting scrutiny than any media
organization or intelligence agency could provide: the scrutiny of a
worldwide community of informed wiki editors. Instead of a couple of
academic specialists, WikiLeaks will provide a forum for the entire
global community to examine any document relentlessly for credibility,
plausibility, veracity and falsifiability. They will be able to
interpret documents and explain their relevance to the public. If a
document is leaked from the Chinese government, the entire Chinese
dissident community can freely scrutinize and discuss it; if a document
is leaked from Somalia, the entire Somali refugee community can analyze
it and put it in context. And so on. WikiLeaks may become the most
powerful "intelligence agency" on earth -- an intelligence agency of
the people. It will be an open source, democratic intelligence agency.
But it will be far more principled, and far less parochial than any
governmental intelligence agency; consequently, it will be more
accurate, and more relevant. It will have no commercial or national
interests at heart; its only interests will be truth and freedom of
information. Unlike the covert activities of state intelligence
agencies, WikiLeaks will rely upon the power of overt fact to inform
citizens about the truths of their world. WikiLeaks will be the outlet
for every government official, every bureaucrat, every corporate
worker, who becomes privy to embarrassing information which the
institution wants to hide but the public needs to know. What conscience
cannot contain, and institutional secrecy unjustly conceals, WikiLeaks
can broadcast to the world. WikiLeaks will be a forum for the ethical
defection of unaccountable and abusive power to the people. How will
WikiLeaks operate? To the user, WikiLeaks will look very much like
wikipedia. Anybody can post to it, anybody can edit it. No technical
knowledge is required. Leakers can post documents anonymously and
untraceably. Users can publicly discuss documents and analyze their
credibility and veracity. Users can discuss interpretations and context
and collaboratively formulate collective publications. Users can read
and write explanatory articles on leaks along with background material
and context. The political relevance of documents and their
verisimilitude will be revealed by a cast of thousands. WikiLeaks will
also incorporate advanced cryptographic technologies for anonymity and
untraceability. Those who provide leaked information may face severe
risks, whether of political repercussions, legal sanctions or physical
violence. Accordingly, extremely sophisticated mathematical and
cryptographic techniques will be used to secure privacy, anonymity and
untraceability. For the technically minded, WikiLeaks integrates
technologies including modified versions of FreeNet, , PGP and software
of our own design. WikiLeaks will be deployed in a way that makes it
impervious to political and legal attacks. In this sense it is
uncensorable. Who is behind WikiLeaks? WikiLeaks was founded by
Chinese dissidents, mathematicians and startup company technologists,
from the US, Taiwan, Europe, Australia and South Africa. Our advisory
board, which is still forming, includes representatives from expatriate
Russian and Tibetan refugee communities, reporters, a former US
intelligence analyst and cryptographers. There are currently 22 people
directly involved in the project and counting. What is your
relationship to wikipedia? WikiLeaks has no formal relationship to
wikipedia. However both employ the same wiki interface and technology.
Both share the same radically democratic philosophy that allowing
anyone to be an author or editor leads to a vast and accurate
collective intelligence and knowledge. Both place their trust in an
informed community of citizens. What wikipedia is to the encyclopedia,
WikiLeaks will be to leaks. Wikipedia provides a positive example on
which WikiLeaks is based. The success of wikipedia in providing
accurate and up-to-date information has been stunning and surprising to
many. Wikipedia shows that the collective wisdom of an informed
community of users may produce massive volumes of accurate knowledge in
a rapid, democratic and transparent manner. WikiLeaks aims to harness
this phenomenon to provide fast and accurate dissemination,
verification, analysis, interpretation and explanation of leaked
documents, for the benefit of people all around the world. What is
WikiLeakss present stage of development? WikiLeaks has developed a
prototype which has been successful in testing, but there are still
many demands required before we have the scale required for a full
public deployment. We require additional funding, the support of
further dissident communities, human rights groups, reporters and media
representative bodies (as consumers of leaks), language
regionalization, volunteer editors/analysts and server operators. We
have received over 1.1 million documents so far. We plan to numerically
eclipse the content of the English wikipedia with leaked documents.
Anyone interested in helping us out with any of the above should
contact us by email at [insert address here]. When will WikiLeaks go
live? We cannot yet give an exact date. We estimate February or March
2007. Couldnt leaking involve invasions of privacy? Couldnt mass
leaking of documents be irresponsible? Arent some leaks deliberately
false and misleading? Providing a forum for freely posting information
involves the potential for abuse, but measures can be taken to minimize
any potential harm. The simplest and most effective countermeasure is a
worldwide community of informed users and editors who can scrutinize
and discuss leaked documents. Concerns about privacy, irresponsibility
and false information also arise with wikipedia. On wikipedia,
irresponsible posting or editing of material, or posting of false
material, can be reversed by other users, and the results have been
extremely satisfying and reassuring. There is no reason to expect any
different from WikiLeaks. Indeed, as discovered with wikipedia to the
surprise of many, the collective wisdom of an informed community of
users may provide rapid and accurate dissemination, verification and
analysis. Furthermore, misleading leaks and misinformation are already
well placed in the mainstream media, as recent history shows, an
obvious example being the lead-up to the Iraq war. Peddlers of
misinformation will find themselves undone by WikiLeaks, equipped as it
is to scrutinize leaked documents in a way that no mainstream media
outlet is capable of. An analogus example is this excellent unweaving
of the British government's politically motivated additions to an
intelligence dossier on Iraq. The dossier was cited by Colin Powell in
his address to the United Nations the same month to justify the pending
US invasion of Iraq. In any case, our overarching goal is to provide a
forum where embarrassing information can expose injustice. All policy
will be formulated with this goal in mind. Is WikiLeaks concerned about
any legal consequences? Our roots are in dissident communities and our
focus is on non-western authoritarian regimes. Consequently we believe
a politically motivated legal attack on us would be seen as a grave
error in western administrations. However, we are prepared,
structurally and technically, to deal with all legal attacks. We design
the software, and promote its human rights agenda, but the servers are
run by anonymous volunteers. Because we have no commercial interest in
the software, there is no need to restrict its distribution. In the
very unlikely event that we were to face coercion to make the software
censorship friendly, there are many others who will continue the work
in other jurisdictions. Is leaking ethical? We favour, and uphold,
ethical behavior in all circumstances. Every person is the ultimate
arbiter of justice in their own conscience. Where there is a lack of
freedom and injustice is enshrined in law, there is a place for
principled civil disobedience. Where the simple act of distributing
information may embarrass a regime or expose crime, we recognize a
right, indeed a duty, to perform that act. Such whistleblowing normally
involves major personal risk. Just like whistleblower protection laws
in some jurisdictions, WikiLeaks provides means and opportunity to
minimize such risks. We propose that every authoritarian government,
every oppressive institution, and even every corrupt corporation, be
subject to the pressure, not merely of international diplomacy or
freedom of information laws, not even of quadrennial elections, but of
something far stronger: the individual consciences of the people within
them. On 05.01.2007, at 02:07, Wikileaks wrote: Deadline not till
next week...xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Reporter Science Magazine
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From: Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 14:04:49 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] For
ongoing ``social proof'' reasons, we need someone to google out 20-30
news/blog articles with their urls and titles which will then be
incorporated into the home page. Anyone?
From: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:03:34 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] the
wl.org front page + blurb is seeing many, many quotes and reposts
(including of the logo). I understand it was done quickly and needs
thoughtful polishing to have the needed psychological effect. e.g
there is an obvious missing word. Please send in comments /
modification suggestions. A lot of people are
requoting/posting/blogging based on this first page only, and using
the ease of ignorance to promote their agenda. Most attacks are along
the lines of "will be used to leak forgeries etc", which is robustly
answered in the faq. This should probably go into the front page.
Thoughts?
From: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:33:40 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Can
someone volunteer or find someone trustworthy who will to help update
/ maintain the current website? In addition we need to rapidly
transition the current holding website into a regular (i.e not
wikileak style) mediawiki website, so it's easy for all of us to add
and correct content, but also for psychological reasons. Is someone
happy to run that on a reliable server they control?
From: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 17:47:28 +1100 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] >
Interesting question. MySociety recently released >
http://www.commentonthis.com/ - they're a nice bunch, I'm sure they'd >
share the code with us if we asked. That's great! Although it needs
careful thought about how to integrate it with mediawiki. I wonder
if they'd help integrate it?
To: From: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 18:46:09 +1100 [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Some
people may be wondering about the unusual names on this list. There
are xxxxxxxxxxxxx people on this list. Everyone is personally known
and trusted by, or is, the founding group. How much will YOU pledge
to WL (in matched pledging or otherwise) for its next six months of
activities? We can succeed at a slower / scale limited way with under
$50,000 / year & volunteers, but it is our goal to raise pledges of
$5m by July. Smaller pledges can be used in ways that will generate
larger ones, so there's an amplification on any early contribution.
We've noticed at least one blog saying that we appear to be a
stalking horse for Soros. This is excellent and part of our strategy
for division and support. When the media blitz hits next week, we'd
like to make concurrent initial requests to many funding bodies.
Additionally, we have a Davos leak with personal contact details for
all attendees. We need people to: 1) investigate the contraints
various funding bodies place on organizational structures
2) write draft letters of
initial approach 3) work on a
statement of principals / constitution which
will satisfy donors,
confuse and disarm opponents,
yet at the same time will prevent the WL public organizations
from being enslaved by the
source of their beads. 4) we want
to incorporate in multiple jurisdictions -- where?
how will these bodies
relate to each other? 5) the
people who worked on the prototype are now
completely diverted by
managing the politics. That's
ok for a couple of weeks, but we can not expect
the political demands to
return to the level they were
before. They need help in both worlds.
6) More work on the FAQ, keeping
up the face of inspiration
without antagonism Solidarity! WL
To: From: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 19:29:23 +1100 [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Fwd from
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: We should be consistent in our use and invention of
language. A word or a phrase extracts meaning from its resonance with
other usages and our experiences. For instance in the FAQ we
sometimes use the phrase "ethical leaking". Should we always use this
phrase? 'leak' by itself carries a negative. 'ethical' a strong
positive. 'ethical leaking' a positive. But it does isolate 'leaks'
as being non-ethical unless we stick 'ethical' on them. Can we make a
movement from this phrase and others? 'The ethical leaking movement'.
Powerful. Can it survive the heat of our vision? We must find our
own 'Operation Iraqi Freedom' s -- blessings and sanctifications that
even our most diseased and demonic opponents will find themselves
chanting to each other in the night. We need a phrases for 'leak
facilitator', 'mail drop volunteer', 'ethical leaker', 'wl server
operator' etc, etc.
To: From: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 06:09:19 -0500 [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] For the
coming media storm next week, we need time zone local telephone
contact points, with number (but not name) listed on WL.ORG. In
interviews, this just means explaining/interpreting the "official
position" that's written up on wl.org. You always represent yourself
-- someone who's an interested party "on the advisory board", but do
not speak for wl as a whole. If they ask what about X and it's not on
WL.ORG etc, then give can your personal opinion if you think it's
helpful, but re-iterate that you're speaking for yourself. This
delegation carries some risks (to wl), but we are in a romance with
journalists hearts; if our voices sweet are not easily reachable on
the phone when their desire and deadlines peek, others voices, less
honeyed but always, always available will replace them. [Names below
deleted by Cryptome.] xxxxxx, are you happy to handle the UK? xxxxxx
/ xxxxxx -- central europe? xxxxxx / xxxxxx us west coast? jya, is
there someway we can obscure you for the east coast? xxxxxx/xxxxxx are
you happy to handle Tiawan/SEA and Mandarin language interviews? Lim,
do you speak cantonese too? xxxxxx -- africa? xxxxxx / xxxxxx /
xxxxxx -- oz/english asia? xxxxxx, are you still busy with your
conference?
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 06:58:04 -0800 To: From: John Young <jya[a
t]pipeline.com> [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist
for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly
in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is housed at
riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established
lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Announcing a $5 million fund-raising
goal by July will kill this effort. It makes WL appear to be a Wall
Street scam. This amount could not be needed so soon except for
suspect purposes. Soros will kick you out of the office with such
over-reaching. Foundations are flooded with big talkers making big
requests flaunting famous names and promising spectacular results.
I'd say the same about the alleged 1.1 million documents ready for
leaking. Way too many to be believable without evidence. I don't
believe the number. So far, one document, of highly suspect
provenance. Instead, explain what funding needs there are and present
a schedule for their need, avoid generalities and lump sums. Explain
how the funds will be managed and protected against fraud and theft.
Instead, operate on a shoe-string for a few months, best, for a couple
of years, establish WL bonafides by publishing a credible batch of
documents for testing public feedback and criticism. Show how to
handle the heat of doubt and condemnation. Use that to support fund-
raising. At moment there is no reason to believe WL can deliver on its
promises. Big talk no action, the skeptics say. BTW, the biggest
crooks brag overmuch of how ethical their operations are. Avoid
ethical promises, period, they've been used too often to fleece
victims. Demonstrate sustained ethical behavior, don't preach/peddle
it.
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 07:21:34 -0800 To: From: John Young <jya[a
t]pipeline.com> [This is a restricted internal development mailinglist
for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not mention that word directly
in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'. This list is housed at
riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle with an established
lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Addendum: The CIA would be the most
likely $5M funder. Soros is suspected of being a conduit for black
money to dissident groups racketeering for such payola. Now it may be
that that is the intention of WL because its behavior so far fits the
pattern. If fleecing the CIA is the purpose, I urge setting a much
higher funding goal, in the $100M range and up. The US intel agencies
are awash in funds they cannot spend fast enough to keep the
Congressional spigot wide open. Academics, dissidents, companies, spy
contractors, other nation's spy agencies, whole countries, are falling
over themselves to tap into this bountiful flood. But competition is
fierce, and accusations of deception are raging even as the fleecers
work in concert. Chinese dissidents -- a brand name among many -- are
already reaping huge benefits from covert funding from the US and from
the PRC, along with others in the former Soviets, in Africa and South
America, inside the US, UK and Europe, in the Middle East and the
Koreas, who know how to double-cross ditzy-rich Dads and Moms. In
solidarity to fuck em all.
From: Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:26:00 -0500 To: [This is a restricted
internal development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please
do not mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead
to 'WL'. This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in
Seattle with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Advice
noted. We'll polish up our sheers for cutting fleeces golden. >
Addendum: > > The CIA would be the most likely $5M funder. Soros is
suspected > of being a conduit for black money to dissident groups
racketeering > for such payola. > > Now it may be that that is the
intention of WL because its behavior > so far fits the pattern. > > If
fleecing the CIA is the purpose, I urge setting a much higher > funding
goal, in the $100M range and up. The US intel agencies > are awash in
funds they cannot spend fast enough to keep the > Congressional spigot
wide open. Academics, dissidents, companies, > spy contractors, other
nation's spy agencies, whole countries, are > falling over themselves
to tap into this bountiful flood. But > competition > is fierce, and
accusations of deception are raging even as the > fleecers work in
concert. > > Chinese dissidents -- a brand name among many -- are
already > reaping huge benefits from covert funding from the US and
from > the PRC, along with others in the former Soviets, in Africa and
> South America, inside the US, UK and Europe, in the Middle East > and
the Koreas, who know how to double-cross ditzy-rich Dads > and Moms. >
> In solidarity to fuck em all. >
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Wikileaks <wikileaks[a t]wikileaks.org> From: John Young <jya[a
t]pipeline.com> Subject: Re: [WL] Funding / who is on this list. Date:
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 11:47:00 -0500 Cryptome is publishing the
contents of this list, and how I was induced to serve as US person for
registration. Wikileaks is a fraud: [This is a restricted internal
development mailinglist for w-i-k-i-l-e-a-k-s-.-o-r-g. Please do not
mention that word directly in these discussions; refer instead to 'WL'.
This list is housed at riseup.net, an activist collective in Seattle
with an established lawyer and plenty of backbone.] Fuck your cute
hustle and disinformation campaign against legitimate dissent. Same old
shit, working for the enemy.
From: Subject: Re: [WL] Funding / who is on this list. Date: Sun, 7
Jan 2007 12:36:29 -0500 To: John Young <jya@pipeline.com> Heh. John,
please do not do that. If you're wondering about the WL, the list has
grown and there were enough accidental wl mentions [e.g in the somali
document and a cc] that not mentioning it became of little additional
obscurity especially since you're receiving the mail. No one has
bothered to change the warning which after all doesn't really hurt.
Even if you think we are CIA stooges, you can't treat everyone on the
list that way.