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January 17th, 2009 #1
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LOWslow
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Best 4 stroke motorcycle oil
gud day mga guru sa motot,
ask ko lang po kung ano ang da best engine oil for my raider j. katatapos lang po ng break-in,
3000km ang mileage. currently using shell advance VSX fully synthetic. may naririnig po kase akong
mas maganda kung magpalit ako ng castrol. ok po b un? and kelan po b dpat magpalit ng oil.??
monthly or by mileage? my average travel per day is 10km.
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thanks in advance sa mga idea...
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Re: best 4 stroke motorcycle oil
Quote:
Originally Posted by LOWslow

gud day mga guru sa motot,
ask ko lang po kung ano ang da best engine oil for my raider j. katatapos lang po ng
break-in, 3000km ang mileage. currently using shell advance VSX fully synthetic. may
naririnig po kase akong mas maganda kung magpalit ako ng castrol. ok po b un? and kelan po
b dpat magpalit ng oil.?? monthly or by mileage? my average travel per day is 10km.
thanks in advance sa mga idea...
correction: VSX is nt a fully synthetic — it's semi-synthetic. Regarding to castrol, as long as its fully
synth like power 1, it's better.
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try mo sir ang castrol power1..smooth daw manakbo 'to. try ko rin ito next change oil ko at kapag
nagandahan ako ito na siguro ang ipapalit ko sa repsol.
January 21st, 2009 #4
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2 of 13 7/19/2002 12:58 AM
tnx sir monster energy
cge sir try ko din. synthetic based lang pla un vsx..
tnx again sir.
sir ask ko lang kung ano motot nio?
and kelan kau ngpapalit ng oil?
tnx po...
naku sir, baka nagkamali lang po. MONTHLY po ako mag change oil.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tatelletat

mgandang araw,sir tnong ko lng po if maganda ba tlg mag ful synthetic?or every 1000km ang
palit,gmit ko kc now shell vsx,my ngsbi sir skin n pg fully synthetic ang gnmit ay up to 1year
bgo kw ulet mgplit?slmt po s reply.
and one thing sir, parang sobrang nakakaawa naman motot natin pag ganun katagal change oil..
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palit,gmit ko kc now shell vsx,my ngsbi sir skin n pg fully synthetic ang gnmit ay up to 1year bgo kw
ulet mgplit?slmt po s reply.
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yes it is! as long as ang km. reading ng odometer ng motor mo ay nasa 5000kms. na kung ito ay
bago pa ay maari ka ng mag fully synthetic oil. ang advantage kasi ng fuly synth ay mas robust ito
kesa sa semi- synthetic at mineral based, meaning to say ung binibigay na protection nito sa mga
3 of 13 7/19/2002 12:58 AM
internal parts ng engine ay mas mataas, at mas mahaba ang drain interval nito. at ang detergency
nito o ung cleaning ability nito ay mas mataas din kesa sa mga nasabi kong type ng oil (semi-synth
at mineral based) kaya mas maganda ito. regarding sa change oil interval eh kung daily use mo ung
motor mo ay hindi pwedeng 1 year. ang draining interval o change interval ng fully-synth oils ay
nasa 3000 to 5000kms. depending on the oil's brand. my precaution nga lang sa pag gamit ng fully
synths lalo pag gagamitin mo ito sa mga older engines, (dahil mas slippery ito kesa sa semi-synth at
mineral based) at ito ay sa clutch operation na maaring mag cause ng pag slide ng clutch pag
ginamitan mo ng fully-synth ang isang old engine. pero all in all, fully synth is the best.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LOWslow

sir ask ko lang kung ano motot nio?
and kelan kau ngpapalit ng oil?
tnx po...
TMX 155 motor nmn sir. every 1000kms. ako nag cha-change oil nung mineral based oil pa ang
gamit ko. pero ngaun bumalik nako sa semi-synthetic dahil binase ko sa climate at Shell VSX na ang
gamit ko. Ok ang shell VSX lalo na at araw-araw kong ginagamit ung motor sa skul na bumabiyahe
ng 40km./day. Mas my hatak ang motor ko sa shell VSX at ang magigi kong change interval sa VSX
ay every 1500kms.
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every 1000km. ay walang problema as long as my pambili ulit ng oil. ganyan din ako sa motor nmn
pero minsan na-eextend ng mga 200-300 kms. pag busy o kaya wala pang budget. ngaun, VSX din
ang gamit ko at ang magigi kong change interval dito ay every 1500km. dahil semi-synth nmn ito.
Try mo din ung lubricants ng motul, elf at castrol power 1. mas ok cla sa shell.
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Sir try ninyo yung ELF Sport 4 Campione 100%synthetic

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sir lexternald, gud day, ask ko lang if proven na po ba ninyo un?
tnx in advance
.. ride safe po
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para sa akin MAXIMA maxum4 ultra.

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gamit ko ngaun is Elf 4T semi synth oil... ok engine response, mas maliksi sya compared sa Motul
5100 semi synth... kaso meron lang akong napansin, mas tumakaw sa gaso motor ko...
dati sa Motul 5100, nasa 39 to 41 km/liter konsumo ko (ratrat mode), ngaun nsa 33 to 36 km/liter
na lang (same ratrat mode)...
totoo ba na nakakaapekto sa gas consumption ang engine oil na nilalagay sa makina ng motor mo?
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slmt po s sgot,ask agen ako if penzoil(fully synthetic),shell ultra (full synthetic) or
valvoline(fully synthetic),alin po jan ang the best?ang motor ko po kc brand new motor star
zest x II 110,khpon lng po ako 3rd change oil ko,ang ginamit ko po ay shell vsx synthetic
based,oks lng po b next change oil ko e mag full synthetic na ako?please tell me wats the best
of fully synthetic i mentioned above,tnx po mga sir.
lahat yan eh ok. depende na lang kasi yan sa magiging hiyang ng MC mo availability at budget.
personally, sa mga na mention mo above, i'll go with shell advance ultra. kaso, mahirap maghanap
nyan d2 sa pinas dahil hindi yan available d2 satin. kung meron mang nagtitinda nyan, bihirang
bihira un. if i were u, ang gamitin mo na oil ay castrol power 1 fully synthetic. madaming positive
feedbacks d2 sa oil na 'to, e2 ung dating castrol r4 superbike. isa pang magandang fully synth oil ay
ung elf campiogne in w/c madaming positive feedbacks din ang nababasa ko tungkol d2 or if you
would like the motul 300v fully synth is a very good choice too. o kya kung gusto mo ng the best:
repsol. ung repsol racing fully synthetic. nasa 700+ un kung di-ako nagkakamali. pero sa repsol
syntetico 10w-40 (semi synth) ay panalong panalo ka na. lahat ng namention kong brand na yan ay
proven and tested lalong lalo na ang repsol na halos lahat d2 sa MCP ay yan ang gamit.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lexternald_13

Sir try ninyo yung ELF Sport 4 Campione 100%synthetic
Racing approved ito. Ive tried one. Maganda naman ang shifting ko, malambot din gaya nung nag
repsol racing ako. Kaso ang napansin ko dati, tumunog ang tensioner ko. sabi ni sir francis, masyado
daw malapot yun kaya dapat magpalit ako ng 10w50.
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On my experience, Elf Moto is the most affordable "best" oil for a motorcycle/scooter engine.
I've tried the following before Elf Moto on my scooter:
Shell Advance VSX | P190 per liter | Good for less than 1000kms each change
Castrol Power 1 Gold | P350 per 800ml | No better than Shell Advance VSX | Change every
1000-2000kms
Repsol Moto (Mineral) | P280 per liter | Good for break-in period up to 4000kms | Change every
1000-2000 kms
Mobil Super XHP Plus | P190 per liter | Good for 1000kms (sobrang itim ng oil once 500kms is
reached)
With Elf Moto (P350 per liter), mas malamig ang makina, mas makinis at tahimik ang takbo ng
engine, pwedeng paabutin upto 4000kms. 10W50 ang viscousity which means it will work and
protect your engine kahit bagong start ang makina. A friend from Bulacan uses Elf Moto on all his
big bikes and scooter and another friend who uses a Nouvo testifies on how Elf Moto is better than
YamaLube.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joven_alvarez

gamit ko ngaun is Elf 4T semi synth oil... ok engine response, mas maliksi sya compared sa
Motul 5100 semi synth... kaso meron lang akong napansin, mas tumakaw sa gaso motor ko...
dati sa Motul 5100, nasa 39 to 41 km/liter konsumo ko (ratrat mode), ngaun nsa 33 to 36
km/liter na lang (same ratrat mode)...
totoo ba na nakakaapekto sa gas consumption ang engine oil na nilalagay sa makina ng

motor mo?
the answer is yes. lalo na kung low quality ang oil na gamit. kasi chances are na hindi nito kayang
bigyan ng sufficient protection ang mga internal moving parts inside (most likely sa high rpm). pag
nangyari un magkakaron ng decrease sa effieciency ng engine at degredation ng internals nito. at
ang cause nito ay low power output, increase in fuel consumption at ang extreme case ay engine
failure or damage. kaya napakalaking factor ang quality ng oil na nilalagay natin sa engine. kaya
kung my pondo, bilhin mo na ung pinaka-magandang brand ng oil na mabibili mo. ako VSX gamit ko
kasi ito lang ung mgandang brand ng oil na tested ko na at kaya ng budget ko.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul.Garcia

1000-2000kms
Repsol Moto (Mineral) | P280 per liter | Good for break-in period up to 4000kms | Change
every 1000-2000 kms
reached)
With Elf Moto (P350 per liter), mas malamig ang makina, mas makinis at tahimik ang takbo
8 of 13 7/19/2002 12:58 AM
ng engine, pwedeng paabutin upto 4000kms. 10W50 ang viscousity which means it will work
and protect your engine kahit bagong start ang makina. A friend from Bulacan uses Elf Moto
on all his big bikes and scooter and another friend who uses a Nouvo testifies on how Elf Moto
is better than YamaLube.
yun oh........plus +1 ako dito.....a satisfied Elf user too...

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may conditions din di ba sir with regarding motor oils?

kapag dry clutch yung motor mo ang alam ko di pwede
ang fully synthetic. ami I correct? if ever if this is true
what would you recommend for mc with dry clutches?
tnx
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may conditions din di ba sir with regarding motor
9 of 13 7/19/2002 12:58 AM
oils? kapag dry clutch yung motor mo ang alam ko

di pwede ang fully synthetic. ami I correct? if ever
if this is true what would you recommend for mc
with dry clutches? tnx
sa pagkakaalam ko, ang hindi pwede sa dry clutch e yung oils specially made for scooters..pwero
pwede yung oil pang wet clutch/motorsiklo sa mga scooters..dry clutch kasi scooter.
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hi mga master, super noob po ako pagdating sa maintenance ng motor at ang problem ko ngayun eh
di ko lam kung anong magandang gamiting oil for Honda wave 100 bale 1yr na po yung mc ko...
salamat po sa mabilisang sagot...
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s1lv3r_13
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ok lang ba yung HONDA multi grade gamit ko sa wave125? dun na kasi ako sa HONDA bumili ng
pangchange oil sa keysa pa maghanap at bumili sa iba...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by s1lv3r_13

ok lang ba yung HONDA multi grade gamit ko sa wave125? dun na kasi ako sa HONDA bumili
ng pangchange oil sa keysa pa maghanap at bumili sa iba...
Honda 4T 10w-30. in my opinion maxadong manipis ung oil @ operating temp. kasi hanggang 30
lang ang viscosity nya. much better pa sana kung nasa 40 ang viscosity nito @ operating temp. lalo
na't tropical climate tayo kaya hindi ako gumagamit nito. try mo mag shell VSX or other fully
synthetic oils mas ok pa.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul.Garcia

1000-2000kms
Repsol Moto (Mineral) | P280 per liter | Good for break-in period up to 4000kms | Change
every 1000-2000 kms
reached)
With Elf Moto (P350 per liter), mas malamig ang makina, mas makinis at tahimik ang takbo
ng engine, pwedeng paabutin upto 4000kms. 10W50 ang viscousity which means it will work
and protect your engine kahit bagong start ang makina. A friend from Bulacan uses Elf Moto
on all his big bikes and scooter and another friend who uses a Nouvo testifies on how Elf Moto
is better than YamaLube.
yung sinasabi mo ba na elf is yung elf4t campione na fully synthetic?may nakita kasi ako sa MALL
kanina while i was strolling
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbabdiel

hi mga master, super noob po ako pagdating sa maintenance ng motor at ang problem ko
ngayun eh di ko lam kung anong magandang gamiting oil for Honda wave 100 bale 1yr na po
yung mc ko... salamat po sa mabilisang sagot...
Shell VSX @ 190-200php semi-synthetic. or other brand of oils like motul (5100 or 300v), elf moto
and repsol (moto, syntetico and racing).
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Quote:
Originally Posted by movistarbike
may conditions din di ba sir with regarding motor

oils? kapag dry clutch yung motor mo ang alam ko
di pwede ang fully synthetic. ami I correct? if ever
if this is true what would you recommend for mc
with dry clutches? tnx
bakit naman? synthetic oils are safe in dry and wet clutches. sa wet clutch nmn (motorcycles), JASO
spec. and API rating like SJ and SG ang safe.
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January 17th, 2009 #1

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gud day mga guru sa motot,

thanks in advance sa mga idea...

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Re: best 4 stroke motorcycle oil

Originally Posted by LOWslow

thanks in advance sa mga idea...

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tnx sir monster energy

cge sir try ko din. synthetic based lang pla un vsx..

tnx again sir.

sir ask ko lang kung ano motot nio?

and kelan kau ngpapalit ng oil?

Originally Posted by tatelletat

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and kelan kau ngpapalit ng oil?

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Sir try ninyo yung ELF Sport 4 Campione 100%synthetic

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sir lexternald, gud day, ask ko lang if proven na po ba ninyo un?

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para sa akin MAXIMA maxum4 ultra.

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Honda Wave Dash 110R...

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