Hydra Kids

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Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu
Orcus Delineation in the 12 Houses (long file 222 Kb). The article and website contain precise astronomical positions of the minor planets and thus disassociate from sunsign or "12 Signs" astrological superstition. (The links may be outdated. Mail author http://neodruid.tk) Hydra Kids ===== ====
Orcus is a large object that could be rising in your daughter's horoscope in a couple of years. "Hydra kids" will be born with Venus+Orcus ascending in Hydra. Venus in Hydra at the ascendant is already too kundalinic to handle, with Orcus it's too wunderkindish to touch. Astrology basics for novices. The zodiac and present epoch ascendants. The U.S.A. has both the ecliptical and equatorial ascendant in Ophiucus. Sun is in Ophiucus is also the current position as I write this Nov 16th, as well as natal position of a recent presidentioal candidate. Studying Ophiucus at this time means tracking Mercury direct in Scorpius > Ophiucus > Scorpius > Ophiucus, then looping conjunct New Moon in Ophiucus and Ixion, Quaoar (plus a centaur) in Ophiucus, as well as Pluto in Serpens Cauda. With mars in Ophiucus this is not exactly a peaceful time for the U.S.A. and the world. ASTRONOMY=ASTROLOGY=ASTRONOMY=AA=ASTROLOGY=ASTRONOMY=ASTROLOGY
Hydra Kids (C) 2005 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved ananta(at)spunge.org A Hydra Kid is defined as a child born with Venus in Hydra. Venus in Hydra is a rare position. It happens in 2007. There are several types of Hydra kids. Hydra Kid, type "A" This kid has Venus in Hydra rising. That means Orcus in Hydra is in the 1st house (below the eastern horizon). Sextans is below the horizon (except for a little part above the horizon). The Sun, Mercury, Okyrhoe, 2002 AW197, Prometheus and 2004 DJ71 are above the horizon. mercury Saturn in the 12th house is sure as heck is heck black majik. The proper choice of literature and ritual dressing can help. Let us not forget that we are dealing with a potential Antichrist, or, worse the Scarlet Lady of the Apocalypse. Don Quixote, 1999 BU48 and 2002 CR46 are below the horizon. I don't recall mentioning she's to be extremely voluptious and sexy, a reincarnated queen nymph. Such beings are responsable for the deths of many a brave but hardly faithful majikian, since this is athe type one should not marry. She'll look like a little girl, but have the forms of a woman, almost if not the same as in the japanese comics.
Hydra Kid, tpe "B" This kid has Sextans ascending, meaning he's come to do all by him Self. Sextans gives the kid quite some masonic flavor, like 2002 MS4. let us never forget that Mussolini's Vaticano has Sextans ascending! The obelisk is not by any chance in midst of Vatican city. Orcus is on the ascendant, with Venus in Hydra in the 12th house. Albeit the 12th house is the brightest of all, being the house of moksha and rising Sun, we must take extra care in this case. The Sun Can burn planets. RA Since not many children will be born under this auspice, it is well worth studying the already copious USENET publications on "Hydra Kids", simply by searching http://groups.google.com Old Internet users will perhaps give it a try with news:alt.astrology.marketplace or even news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 Usenet access: http://www.newzbot.com (search astrology) Other archives: http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck http://users.tmok.com/~tarant8l /astrology /iau * Precessional Ascendants = which of these is yours? ===== (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk
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Serpens=Cap+Cau Cetus Canis_Minor Ophiucus Taurus Hydra Aquila Eridanus Sextans Aquarius Orion Leo
* True Astronomical Zodiac Aquarius Aries Auriga Bootes Cancer Canis Minor Capricornus Cetus Coma B. Corvus Crater Eridanus Gemnini Hydra Leo Minor Leo Libra Ophiucus Orion Pegasus Pisces Sagittarius Scorpius Scutum Serpens Sextans Taurus Virgo Since Venus transits Sextans before entering Hydra, it is possible to have Sextans ascending with Venus+Orcus in Sextans. This is odysseying through dangerous solitary rocks. A solitary siren. Inorganic beings surely enjoy this position. many inorganic beings initiate the magus into astrology and are incorporated, sigil and incantation, within every good horoscope. Elipinon bless your research! Note that you can be born with Venus in Leo and have a secondary Venus in Sextans progression. Extrazodiacal progressions also affect one's life course. A large amount of articles about Venus in Hydra (also Venus and Chariklo in Corvus, Crater, Sextans, ...) is readily available from the site, newsgroup and USENET. Convenient comparison is enabled, as well as encouraged between Sedna in Cetus and Orcus in Hydra. Both Cetus and Hydra are zodiacal, as well as (currently!) ascendental constellations. Pluto c/o rules with Sedna in Cetus. Contrary to any misconception, Pluto never enters Pisces or Aries, and thus cannot rule in Aries, since it is never there. Orcus in Sextans has been delineated as next position. Sedna, like Pluto, enters Taurus after it's long Cetus sojourn. Let us clear out for novices that Hydra and Sextans are both zodiacal and ascendental constellations. While the zodiacal set of 28 constellation does not change (for all practical purposes), the ascendental sets _do_ change with epoch. _Some_ constellations can (in an appropriate epoch) thus be _both_ ascendental _and_ zodiacal. This is not at all neccesary so, since many extrazodiacal constellations rise both at this and other epoch. This subject has been largely demonstrated in various epochs and on various plane(t)s. True Astronomical Zodiac & Ascendants http://neodruid.tk Your Scientifical Astronomical Zodiac and Precessed Ascendants by Klaudio Zic, Copyright (C) 1996-2005, all rights reserved. Orcus and Earth Trojans http://neodruid.tk /iau /Orcus 2002 AA29 Various yearly angular conjunctions of Orcus and 2002 AA29 are shown in the above directory. What happens when the two conjunct marks a critical point in the development of world affairs with massive interest in the inspection of the situation at hand. In other words events of global interest happen, like oil shortage or new discoveries as defined by experts. Whatever situation is involved, the graph will show a critical angle when this angular conjunction happens. Not many (if any) astrological programs will show this, but loading the objects into astrolog program with -XF switch will give some idea. 2002 AA29 could cause problems in integration-interpolation within some astrological programs. The simscans show the other trojan moon of planet Earth, Cruithne. Hundreds of megabytes of trojan material survived last site cleanup. Sit back and click on "3 moons meet" after a couple of minutes. As 2002 AA29 often shows mass movement, the picture is of a horde of orcs marching by a subterranean river, like in Moria. In real life (if available) this means a large upheaval, enhanced checkup of air harbors, religious convergence, the swelling of the 12 cricial points on planet Earth, even critical rising of the tides. Amazing Features of Your Natal Chart - 2600 Astrology Orco dio! = An appendix to Orcus ( 2004 DW ) Delineation Orcus in Sextans http://neodruid.tk /orcus /iau /orcus /2004DW (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved.http://neodruid.tk /iau In 2007 Venus enters Hydra from Sextans constellation while Orcus enters Sextans and 2002 AW197 enters Hydra. We have already published "Venus in Hydra" and "2002 AW197 in Hydra" on USENET http://groups.google.com with a short comment for 2004 DW now Orcus. The name seems to allude to a watermonster (Hydra is a water snake or shumerian Tiamat, Sextans is one of the Tiamat's demons or ministers), but Orcus in Sextans is (you guessed it) a rather sober position, after all. The true astronomical positions: http://neodruid.tk /iau/orcus1 Orca in Sextans will have the following flavor when it happens. This is a legislative "law and order" position, also VOX POPVLI as democracy overtakes new countries. An important space shuttle reaches it's orbit. Immigration laws are revised. Governmental
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works are favored. The position is rather valuable in finantial astrology or at least professional astrology as it spells large sums of money (2002 Aw197 makes for enormous success in real estate). Orca in Sextans is about posessive love, orkish way, that is not very elegant or too noble, indeed. Orcus is often invoked in Italy, the saying is "Orco dio", an exclamation of surprise. With Venus in Sextans (Hydra) and centaur Okyrhoe and aided by the Moon, when prominent, this inert position can become one of the unwilling Casanova. Girls adore the fellow but does he know it? Mountain climbing, fishing and holding hands like good children keep together. Let us not forget that yacht business comes under the auspice of Sextans. Sextans is zodiacal as well as ascendental, thus one can have Venus in Sextans on the ascendant, as well as Orcus in Sextans rising. http://neodruid.tk /orcus1 http://neodruid.tk /sedna /orcus (TO BE CONTINUED) Your astrological programs fools you. Knew that? Check the example of "Capricorn ascending" where one can clearly see it's Pisces rising on the eastern horizon. Such was the poor state of "reliable" popular websites, "astrological literature" and reliable "pro" astrological programs. And that's only one example of the trade. (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved.http://neodruid.tk /iau One recent client claimed CAPRICORN ascending, so I had to drag her to witness her TRUE SKIES, only to see PISCES rising in due east at birth. I told her to forget "astrology" and concentrate on her skies as they were, not astrological fancy and misconception. Compare results here: http://neodruid.tk /iau/capisces
Venus and Orcus rising in Hydra may not give birth to an antichrist, but you surely don't want a Scarlet Lady for daughter? Ever had an orgasm with Venus in Hydra? Have it in 2007! Many an article has been written about Hydra Kids. Orcus with Venus in Hydra ascending is surely a sight. Orcus is in hydra awaiting Venus there. Then it moves into Sextans. Venus is not so often in Hydra, but it is releatively frequently in Sextans. Hydra is Tiamat and Sextans is her demon and minister. Hydra on the ascendant is already too much occult to handle. Liber AL Vel Legis has it in Cairo (Hydra's Head ascending). Orcus is located in Hydra's head. If that does not ring a bell, you are not thelemitic at all, thanks God. Antichrist is here. Venus in Hydra is good for travel, advance, ascension, night flight, personal cultivation, kundalini rising, the snake and the apple (note the snake is EA or ENKI). + August babies in 2007 will have Venus in Hydra or Sextans. Aug 4th 2004 had Venus in Orion, Mercury in Sextans and Moon in Cetus. What are the portents of Venus in Hydra? 0+ Hydra coupled with Cetus might gain further importance when the system based on the stargates is launched in popular astrology. namely the watermonster constellations might mark two crucial midpoints as concerns the stargates. http://neodruid.tk /stargate 0+ Venus in Hydra in 2007 may mean children will be born with special faculties, a sort of nymphoid generation. Undines will reincarnate. Underwater colonies will prosper. Venus in Hydra or Inana in Tiamat - A study in Shumer ===== ===== (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk While Venus in Sextans is not really a rare position, Venus in Hydra (next occurence Aug 2007) is a rather spectacular position of Venus. Shumerian mythology centered around Tiamat = Hydra and warring female deities such as later Inana. Whatever the attributions (Ishtar may be one) the purpose of the service is to investigate into shumerian skies 4000 BC for cases of Venus in Hydra (by IAU standards). Shumerian astronomers (titans) of course knew about Venus approaching the 3 demons of Tiamat (nowdays Sextans, Crater, Corvus). Venus spans a wide range of constellations, from standard Ophiucus, to already mentioned Orion, Sextans, Hydra and of course Cetus, the Leviathan. If you are not a powerful woman, it is hardly desirable to have a child with venus in Hydra. Such babies are to be inclined towards the occult, the beyond, even the dark side. The natus may receive occult help from important initiates. Kundalini is critically high in this nativities!
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*2005 was the first time I got my horoscope right! neodruid.tk Scientifical Horoscope - A Gift of Art and Majik for the 2005 (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk Venus is retrograde in both Sextans and Hydra (while it might be direct in other positions. A fixed star in Hydra is used in the (manual) search for close (e.g. 1 degree) conjunction with Venus. More sophisticate search would be easier, but is unavailable at the present time. Occurences of a "close encounter" of Venus with IAU Hydra are quite frequent towards the range of 3 degrees (or even 2), thus shumerian astronomers had various opportunity to study the position. It certainly abounded with symbolism and possibly sinister meaning. Note that Venus in Hydra happens when most gurus estimate a sort of climax in planetary initiation. One recent channeling (published on the site) claims May 2005th as entry into a new phase (5th attention), while 2004 was and is about clearing (thus pain) and 4th dimension. attacking Iran may be humanity's last error., as harassing Shumer, the navel of the planet, wasn't enough. My sources have the city of Montona in Istria, Europe as the navel of the planet. Sri Sathya Sai Baba is quoted as authority in this point. The single star used is: HD83425; SAO117821; BD+05 2207 Note 2004 GV9 is in Corvus http://neodruid.tk /iau/shumer which is another demon on Tiamut's back. 2002 MS4 is in Hydra. This simulations are better done in such powerful integrators such as Solex by Aldo Vitagliano. It seems Venus reenters Sextans in our highly experimental example. What an occurence! Venus in Sextans has been dealt with years ago when the integration of astronomy=astrology finally rounded up on the site. The early research shows examples: http://neodruid.tk /extra How to order your Subject:TRUE HOROSCOPE? Mail ananta@spunge.org By SMS +393343182775 Mail: 3343182775 @ tim.it http://neodruid.tk + Hydra coupled with Cetus might gain further importance when the system based on the stargates is launched in popular astrology. namely the watermonster constellations might mark two crucial midpoints as concerns the stargates. http://neodruid.tk /stargate + As afore said, August babies in 2007 will have Venus in Hydra. "Venus in Hydra", as well as Sextans, Orion (Aug 2004). + "Venus in Hydra" delineation was published on USENET years ago. Most delineations of positions like Venus in Sextans and alike are retrievable from http://groups.google.com + Venus spans a wide range of constellations, from standard Ophiucus, to already mentioned Orion, Sextans, Hydra and of course Cetus, the Leviathan. Ophiucus is a large enough constellation for all the planets to settle in. The Sun also dwells in Ophiucus, of course. Other zodiacal constellations such as Auriga (as visited by the Moon) can be called "not standard" since there is no telling by normal reckoning when a planet will check in. Auriga is thus a rare position for the Moon and so is Corvus. Cetus is a rather "well visited" constellation, most famous for the "Pluto dip". Pluto namely dips into Cetus after Aquarius, before it shoots into Taurus, completely bypassing such constellations as Pisces and Aries. + The Lamia was one of the delineations of Venus in Hydra, awesome beauty coupled with kundalinic powers. Fatal women will be born in 2007 with Hydra or Sextans ascendant and Venus in Hydra. http://neodruid.tk /extra/hydra /venus + The position is good for travel, advance, ascension, night flight, personal cultivation, kundalini rising, the snake and the apple (note the snake is EA or ENKI). + (to be continued in Shumer) + How to order your Subject:TRUE HOROSCOPE? Mail ananta@spunge.org By SMS +393343182775 Mail: 3343182775 @ tim.it http://neodruid.tk
Last year you had a horoscope done by an average astrologer? Now everybody can finally afford a true SCIENTIFIC HOROSCOPE. *Precessional Ascendants = which of these is yours? ===== (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk Virgo Pisces Monoceros Serpens=Cap+Cau Cetus Canis_Minor Ophiucus Taurus Hydra Aquila Eridanus Sextans Aquarius Orion Leo
*True Astronomical Zodiac Aquarius Aries Auriga Bootes Cancer Canis Minor Capricornus Cetus Coma B. Corvus Crater Eridanus Gemini Hydra Leo Minor Leo Libra Ophiucus Orion Pegasus Pisces Sagittarius Scorpius Scutum Serpens Sextans Taurus Virgo How to order your Subject:TRUE HOROSCOPE? Mail ananta@spunge.org By SMS +393343182775 Mail: 3343182775 @ tim.it http://neodruid.tk
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If you plan a baby in 2007, be sure to plan it with Venus in Hydra. You can choose ascendants from Sextans, Hydra to Cetus if you want a truly gifted child, but Monoceros ascendants are leaders, and Aquila ascendants make great patronizing friends. Some Orion
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ascendants like Dalai Lama (who has Mintaka rising) have extra sexual power (CINGVLA ORIONIS or the Orion-O5IRIS "belt" is in fact O5IRIS phallic essence; the three pyramid-stars in themselves mark kundalini-Uraeus-snake rising). Eridanus can be risky and might perhaps desenchant you and your wunderkind, but is a great adventure, indeed. Pinnochio has Cetus descending, the neophyte doll was constantly faced with True Mind, in cricket/fairy form. TRUE NATAL POSITIONS What if TRUE NATAL SKIES were affordable for your whole family?
Affordable New Aeon Astrology - Call ananta@spunge.org now! (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk Every mother and astrologer cares for her baby. May your baby have a good start with TRUE NATAL HOROSCOPE, the only astronomically correct map of the sky for new born babies. Precise positions help navigating, as well as reprogramming life's joys. Reprogramatrix is available to change, avert and retransform upcoming negative astral influences. Easily predictable high precision clairastrology We give you what no one even dreams of: your TRUE NATAL PO5ITIONS. Call for family discounts and see that we charge as low as 20 $ per scan! every member of your family deserves to know his TRUE PRECESSIONAL ASCENDANT. Do you have a baby born Aug 4th 2004 with Moon in Cetus, Monoceros (Unicorn) ascendant, Venus in Orion and Mercury in Sextans? Do you want me to include a short commetary? You are welcome to CONFIGURE SPECIAL REQUESTS as concerns the asteroids, ephemeris, special interest, DEDICATED TUITION or perhaps just curiO5ity! Want to learn some O5 basics that will enable you to AVERT upCOMing NEGATIVE astral INFLUENCES? O5! How to order your Subject:TRUE HOROSCOPE? Mail ananta@spunge.org By SMS +393343182775 Mail: 3343182775 @ tim.it http://neodruid.tk
Do you remember the times when astrologers used 12 zodiacal "signs"? There were no centaurs, no Moon in Orion, no WTC... (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk True Astronomical Zodiac Aquarius Aries Auriga Bootes Cancer Canis Minor Capricornus Cetus Coma B. Corvus Crater Eridanus Gemini Hydra Leo Minor Leo Libra Ophiucus Orion Pegasus Pisces Sagittarius Scorpius Scutum Serpens Sextans Taurus Virgo IAU Compatible Astrology is astronomically correct, starting with the zodiac. The astrologies in large use in the past aeon were unaware of the very position of the planets, and the Moon. Aug 4th 2004 we had Moon in Cetus, Venus in Orion and Mercury in Sextans. It is clear from this short report that Sextans, Orion and Cetus are zodiacal constellations. What did not change is the skies as they were. What did is the way we understand them. If you think you had a Capricorn ascendant, you may discover it was Pisces all of the time. If you thought your wife's Neptune was in 7th, you might find it in 6th. The WTC Moon is in Orion (precisely X1 or staff grip of Osiris). Jung's ascendant is Aquila. Monoceros is rising. (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk IAU Compatible Astrology is the final marriage of astronomy with astrology, after their divorce quite some time ago. The two were surely one and now they are joined once again forever after their long divorce. All that was needed was to observe the skies as the ancients would do. We have of course many new discoveries to discuss in our charts, like Sedna, Wild or Quaoar, but essentially we are like the ancients, copying the skies exactly as they are. Speaking in terms of the new generation, one downloads heaven as-it-is, changing nothing. East is where east is, on this, as well as any planet, and what rises in the East, as here as on Niburu, is called the ascendant. Planets are recorded in their true position, and delineated in their original position. Thus on Aug 4th 2004 we had Moon in Cetus, Venus in Orion, Mercury in Sextans and Juno in Scutum. It is clear from this short report that Sextans, Orion and Cetus are zodiacal constellations. They are moreover ascendental constellations, too. The true zodiac with the current precessional ascendants (for London, 2004) is enlisted below. One gigabyte of material on the site is more than enough for the serious astrologer to start thinking in astronomical terms. Hundreds of errors have been corrected, so many in fact that your natal chart will never be the same. (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk Precessional Ascendants Virgo Pisces Monoceros Serpens=Cap+Cau Cetus Canis_Minor Ophiucus Taurus Hydra Aquila Eridanus Sextans Aquarius Orion Leo
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How to order your Subject:TRUE HOROSCOPE? Mail ananta@spunge.org By SMS +393343182775 Mail: 3343182775 @ tim.it http://neodruid.tk Di che ascendente sei? MONOCERO se sei autogestita e hai la stoffa del leadership. HYDRA se ti piace l'occulto, anche quello "proibito"! CETUS se la tue Vera Mente ci ride sempre sotto sotto:) OPHIUCO se ti senti piu "kundalinica",(non)che madre Eva! AQUILA se il tuo veliero ospita tutta la famiglia! ERIDANO se la tua vita, morte e miracoli e Padania. ORIONE se miri al transcendentale come Dalai Lama. E poi sai che c'e anche l'ascendente gallattico? *Sei sicura di sapere quale e il tuo ascendente? (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk Precessional Ascendants Virgo Pisces Monoceros Serpens=Cap+Cau Cetus Canis_Minor Ophiucus Taurus Hydra Aquila Eridanus Sextans Aquarius Orion Leo
!!! OROSCOPO VERO !!! Servizi italiani Astrologia Astronomica ======== ==== Sai Baba nasce Novembre 23simo con il Sole in Bilancia. * Agosto 4to 2004. La Luna e in Cetus. Venere in Orione. Mercurio in Sestante. Benvenuti nel zodiaco astronomico. * Pianificare un bimbo per il 2007 significa decidere se avra Venere in Hydra, oppure Venere in Sestante. * Vaticano nasce con un ascendente masonico del Sestante. * Cos'e vero? L'astrologia si e integrata con l'astronomia. Il sito e sempre http://neodruid.tk o per i piu esperti: http://neodruid.tk /iau /nu /28 /extra /sedna /o5 /pcs *2005 was the first time I got my horoscope right! neodruid.tk Scientifical Horoscope - A Work of Art and Majik for the 2005 (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk
Traditional meaning of zodiacal constellations Hydra and Cetus Centaurs inside! See also 2004 PY42 in Triangulum constellation. Take your skies back! Regain your original natal settings along with the ability to change any of your futures for the best now. We have already touched upon shumerian Tiamut in dealing with Hydra and it's three demons. Cetus has been the leviathanic tempter of neophyte mason Pinocchio and laugheter of NEMO or True Mind. But there's another side to wise interpretation: the traditional. How to order your Subject:TRUE HOROSCOPE? Mail: ananta@spunge.org By SMS +385911528964 SMS +393343182775 Voice mail +38591701528964 http://neodruid.tk news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk + Astrologers took time to delineate the 4 basic positions of Cetus in one's horoscope, E S W N according to azimuthal logic. Thus one can have Sedna in Cetus on the meridian in due South. + The traditional interpretation of the 28 zodiacal constellations is not always readily available through german folk and peasants as folk lore disliked or did not adopt some of the 28 zodiacal constellations. Luckily the folk stores what no modern astrologer even dreams of, not only most of the zodiacal constellations, but also very colorful delineations of extrazodiacal constellations along with Juiter moons (as well as other planets satellites) which were obviousely used in folk astrology. Thus Triangulum is known to the german peasant. We had Triangulum in 66 context, as well as many occasions with centaurs like 2004 PY42. + The peasant would determine the south meridian point or due south and east point or due east, something that the modern astrologer does not have in his programs. Thus the peasant would measure the ascendant in due east and the ascendant would be Hydra or Cetus. + Since peasants marry, they observe the western horizon for any of the 16 constellations (depending on the century of course) that may serve as omen in due west. This is again something completely unknown even to modern german astrologers (there was one in Muenchen but he apparently settled in France. Lutz Rathke invented the 17 rathke planets that we called the Dark Planets). + Note that albeit german peasants were observing certain skies under certain precessions, the systems got mixed thus Triangel might be a guest from other folk lores. Cygnus and Lepus were ascendental aeons
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ago, as we demonstrated years ago, an ancient ruler could have ascendant Lepus. What makes folk lore amazing is that they observed contemporary comets as well. When Ceres and the main belt asteroids (like Eunomia) were introduced, they had basic meanings for them, too. Ceres was about crops, Juno about a lovely (but often just pretty) wife and so on. + Some constellations are political like Sternbild Herz Carls II. Some are zodiacal like Peitsche. Some pertain to the southern hemisphere which can only mean they were brought by navigators. Der Milchstrasse figures as Stargate(s). The Ring of Saturn (we had recent Prometheus moon 1980 S 27 sucking up the Ring's material) features in the old predictions. Perhaps navigators observed the rising of Prometheus at the edge of the Ring. Among the surprises rich folk lore reserves to the modern astrologer are Gemma, Hyperion, Titan, Drachens (Draco was important in old Aegypt, also ascendental long long time ago as we demonstrated over the past years), Morgenstern und Abendstern figure, Erda (we had Earth in Centaurus), Pegasus (a zodiacal constellation), Lyra, Dione, Andromeda (as suggested by swiss astrolog program developer in the interpretation of the Milky Way suburbia and the Stargates), Himmelsleiter (unclear, Stairway to Heaven http://neodruid.tk /venexia), (Leo Minor and Sextans were either out of use or discarded or lost), Plejaden, Henne (?), + Kreutz, Thetis (Fuelhorn) CORNVCOPIA, Lilie Vega, Kassiopeia (W), Titania (we had Oberon conjunct Titania), Deimos, Oberon (Schmetterling, O5, Oberon 5), (Fackel) Phobos (we had vast examples of phobosocentrical astrology, Keule (Torch), Hasen (we had NEAT comet in Lepus http://neodruid.tk /comet, Pallas (shield, like zodiacal constellation SCVTVM; we had Juno in Scutum), the Boat (ARGO NAVIS), Crater (Chariklo in Crater, the Graal) CXrater could ascend in due east when Aries was an ascendental constellation, too, at the time of the pharaohs, Clouds (?), Athene Pallas in various forms even as an owl (thus a very refined astrologer worked out behind this folk tales). And there's more. Quite a collection of omens, folk sayings, sailor moons... + Hydra is thus about evil tongues and envy. Envy is known even to gods like Tiamat. The snake and the dove lay out a perfect tantric ritual. + Cetus is about fish dinners (we had Moon in Cetus and occult fish dinner). The Leviathan "whale" from beriah also symbolizes the Great Work (later on folk labor). Dreaming ancients watermonsters can be portentous of a big (good) change in life, but also a sort of intuition that we have a hacker on our back, and a deadly, too, the voladero. See Pinocchio. + In concluding we hope we have illustrated at least some of the 28 zodiacal and 60 extrazodiacal constellations (plus some that are no longer in official use) for the incipient modern astrologer. Klaudio Zic, Venedig A.C.A. by ARGO NAVIS How to order your Subject:TRUE HOROSCOPE? Mail: ananta@spunge.org By SMS +385911528964 SMS +393343182775 Voice mail +38591701528964 http://neodruid.tk news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk If the map is wrong, the way is wrong. If the way is wrong, your life fails. Get the correct map before dusk. Download natal skies as they are. Astrologers know nothing of their own natal positions. In leaving them to their delusions, unroll your sky charts to inner wonders discovering Venus in Hydra, Sun in Ophiucus, Pluto in Leo Minor, Moon in Auriga, Sedna in Cetus, Chariklo in Lupus, comet Wild in Cetus, Crater ascending, Stargate on the meridian, Lamia rising. Which eastern ascendant is yours? MONOCEROS Initiative, leadership, daring, inspiration, charm. HYDRA Occult, channeling, mediumship, unraveling mysteries. CETUS Laughing true mind, testing Pinocchio or neophyte. OPHIUCUS U.S.A. ascendant, Kelly Sun, Kundalinic mother Eve. AQUILA Sails able to host a family, fly high and strong. ERIDANUS The true guru is the root of safe flight. ORION Transcendental, afterlife, Dalai Lama (Mintaka) asc. Astrologies may be different, the skies are one. * Precessional Ascendants = which of these is yours? ===== (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk Virgo Pisces Monoceros Serpens=Cap+Cau Cetus Canis_Minor Ophiucus Taurus Hydra Aquila Eridanus Sextans Aquarius Orion Leo
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MONOCEROS Initiative, leadership, daring, inspiration, charm. HYDRA Occult, channeling, mediumship, unraveling mysteries. CETUS Laughing true mind, testing Pinocchio or neophyte. OPHIUCUS U.S.A. ascendant, Kelly Sun, Kundalinic mother Eve. AQUILA Sails able to host a family, fly high and strong. ERIDANUS The true guru is the root of safe flight. ORION Transcendental, afterlife, Dalai Lama (Mintaka) asc. Astrologies may be different, the skies are one. PROTECT YOUR NATAL DATA from false astrology. http://neodruid.tk ASTRONOMY=ASTROLOGY=ASTRONOMY=AA=ASTROLOGY=ASTRONOMY=ASTROLOGY * Precessional Ascendants = which of these is yours? ===== (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk Virgo Pisces Monoceros Serpens=Cap+Cau Cetus Canis_Minor Ophiucus Taurus Hydra Aquila Eridanus Sextans Aquarius Orion Leo
* True Astronomical Zodiac Aquarius Aries Auriga Bootes Cancer Canis Minor Capricornus Cetus Coma B. Corvus Crater Eridanus Gemnini Hydra Leo Minor Leo Libra Ophiucus Orion Pegasus Pisces Sagittarius Scorpius Scutum Serpens Sextans Taurus Virgo How to order your Subject:TRUE SKY CHART? Mail: ananta@spunge.org By SMS +385911528964 SMS +393343182775 Voice mail +38591701528964 http://neodruid.tk news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk PROTECT YOUR NATAL DATA from false astrology. http://neodruid.tk
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True Astronomical Zodiac & Ascendants http://neodruid.tk Your Scientifical Astronomical Zodiac and Precessed Ascendants by Klaudio Zic, Copyright (C) 1996-2005, all rights reserved. HOROSCOPE A horoscope is an accurate map of your natal skies. We copy your natal skies exactly as they were, for greater accuracy. TIMING Timing events gives you the impetus, as well the time to recollect for an eficacious move. Strike at the right time, retreat when times are less promising. Timing is crucial in business, sport, lottery, family affairs, real estate, stock exchange, dating, love affairs, marriage, politics, education, exams, initiation, hunting, fishing and every life project you may find yourself engaged at this time. (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk Your scientifical astronomical horoscope Mail: ananta@spunge.org By SMS +385911528964 news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 TRUE ZODIAC True astronomical zodiac is used for accurate scanning of the natal chart and progressions. This exclusive feature is unique on the World Wide Web. The astronomical zodiac is an IAU compatible set of 28 constellations. Babies born Aug 4th 2004 have Moon in Cetus, Mercury in Sextans, Venus in Orion and Juno in Scutum. Original personalized delineations coupled with scientifical precision. Scientificaly guided astromagical approach. PRECESSED ASCENDANT Another exclusive feature is the use of the precession corrected set of ascendants. Are you a Sextans loner, Monoceros leader or hydra mystic? Plan a baby? It might be born with Hydra ascending plus largest asteroid Orcus conjunct Venus in Hydra constellation. CENTAURS Objects of the same class of Chiron. Passionate delineations.
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Chariklo is Chiron's centauress partner, larger than Chiron. Pholus, Nessus, Hylonome, Asbolus + this year's discoveries like the White Centaur 2004 PY42. Rich original delineations. TRANSNEPTUNIAN CUBEWANO PLUTINO SDO OORT CLOUD OBJECTS
Copious delienation of Varuna, Ixion, Quaoar, Orcus, Sedna in houses and aspects. Prominent transneptunian objects positively affect your natal horoscope. Get the delineation from the source! EARTH MOONS Earth trojan moons are important in chart analysis. Exclusive analysis of our auxillary moons Cruithne, 2002 AA29 and 200 PH5. COMETS NEAT and Wild comets. Original delineation. LILIT VERA True Lilith, an object observed by Cassini (Jupiter spots) and Piccioli. Atavistic sex drive. Black arts. Sexy delineations. DARKPLANETS An experimental set of 17 hypotheticals. colorful delineations. (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk Your scientifical astronomical horoscope Mail: ananta@spunge.org By SMS +385911528964 news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5
Orcus http://neodruid.tk /orcus http://neodruid.tk /iau What does it portend when Orcus and Saturn set at the same time? These days long range missiles are being prepared perhaps for the time when Mars enters Ophiucus. What will be labeled "punitive expedition" can become religious war. Compare Orcus delineation in houses http://neodruid.tk /orcus Orcus in Hydra & Sextans: http://neodruid.tk /iau /orcus4 Amazing Features of Your Natal Chart - 2600 Astrology The dawning of Astrology is scheduled for year 2600, but why await the Age of Aquarius? Get your true nativity now! Astrological Services - Detect and Change Future Events ALL THE LOVES IN YOUR LIFE Untimely for your energies using O5 romance can affect your life. Get perfect timing true love, know when time is right making astral cooperate for best results. Have a loving future and PCS with power mantras. Create your future!
True Astronomical Zodiac & Ascendants http://neodruid.tk Your Scientifical Astronomical Zodiac and Precessed Ascendants by Klaudio Zic, Copyright (C) 1996-2005, all rights reserved. HOROSCOPE A horoscope is an accurate map of your natal skies. We copy your natal skies exactly as they were, for greater accuracy. TIMING Timing events gives you the impetus, as well the time to recollect for an eficacious move. Strike at the right time, retreat when times are less promising. Timing is crucial in business, sport, lottery, family affairs, real estate, stock exchange, dating, love affairs, marriage, politics, education, exams, initiation, hunting, fishing and every life project you may find yourself engaged at this time. (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk Your scientifical astronomical horoscope Mail: ananta@spunge.org By SMS +385911528964 news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 TRUE ZODIAC True astronomical zodiac is used for accurate scanning of the natal chart and progressions. This exclusive feature is unique on the World Wide Web. The astronomical zodiac is an IAU compatible set of 28 constellations. Babies born Aug 4th 2004 have Moon in Cetus, Mercury in Sextans, Venus in Orion and Juno in Scutum. Original personalized delineations coupled with scientifical precision. Scientificaly guided astromagical approach. PRECESSED ASCENDANT Another exclusive feature is the use of the precession corrected set of ascendants. Are you a Sextans loner, Monoceros leader or hydra mystic? Plan a baby? It might be born with Hydra ascending plus largest asteroid Orcus conjunct Venus in Hydra constellation.
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CENTAURS Objects of the same class of Chiron. Passionate delineations. Chariklo is Chiron's centauress partner, larger than Chiron. Pholus, Nessus, Hylonome, Asbolus + this year's discoveries like the White Centaur 2004 PY42. Rich original delineations. TRANSNEPTUNIAN CUBEWANO PLUTINO SDO OORT CLOUD OBJECTS
Copious delienation of Varuna, Ixion, Quaoar, Orcus, Sedna in houses and aspects. Prominent transneptunian objects positively affect your natal horoscope. Get the delineation from the source! EARTH MOONS Earth trojan moons are important in chart analysis. Exclusive analysis of our auxillary moons Cruithne, 2002 AA29 and 200 PH5. COMETS NEAT and Wild comets. Original delineation. LILIT VERA True Lilith, an object observed by Cassini (Jupiter spots) and Piccioli. Atavistic sex drive. Black arts. Sexy delineations. DARKPLANETS An experimental set of 17 hypotheticals. colorful delineations. (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, All Rights Reserved. http://neodruid.tk Your scientifical astronomical horoscope Mail: ananta@spunge.org By SMS +385911528964 news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5
Sedna and Orcus in the 12 houses, with commentaries. Updated August 1st 2004 http://neodruid.tk This Sedna update contains an interesting as well as interlinking note on Orcus on the western horizon in Hydra. http://neodruid.tk http://neodruid.tk /ng.html (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. Sedna is a strangely moonless object discovered in November 2003 and simply classified as "centaur". Albeit not a planet, the object is the largest of the "oortoid" discoveries. We are almost sure we have entered Oort's cloud, past the Kuiper Belt. Sedna is thus the first transneptunian object that is not a KBO or Kuiper Belt Object (roughly speaking). http://neodruid.tk /sedna Sedna and the Energy Body + The energy body is a distant life cluster pertaining to our Self. On that line we are made of a "distant" energy body, _plus_ our light coocoon. This stuff has nothing to do with auras, souls and overabundant allpresent secondhand fancy. Sedna stands for the energy body slowly getting closer to our light coocoon. The energy body is distant and rarely near, except with shamans and alike powerful beings. When the energy body gets nearer, nature communicates with(in) us e.g. as some speak to majikal animals. Sedna's majikanimals abound from astral dolphins, whales, crocodiles (Mako) to diving cO5monauts. NEMO in his neoNautilus oversees astral marvel from his control lodge. Did you know Sedna pilots the crocodile of your local Green Man? See under "Sedna in the 10th House" as you become neoastrologer. Sedna for Neodruids = A Complete Sedna Delineation for O5 PCS VirtPet Initiates http://neodruid.tk /pcs Felt something May 29th 2004? Be therefore invited to Sedna delineation! Sedna has been updated, along with Orcus, see "Sedna in the 12 Houses" below. A large introduction has been added for the benefit of incipient astrologers. This includes IAU compatible zodiac, the correct zodiac of 28 constellations (we split Serpens in two, so 29), equatorial or due eastern ascendant (so you finally know where your 7th house stands) and a variety of puns, guidelines and possibly new concepts such as cubewano, plutino, centaur, comet, trojan a.s.o.. (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, all rights (and wrongs) reserved. Mercury conjunct Sedna means isolation, victory for the avatar, high temperature, fires, a punitive campaign, especially when on the meridian. Mercury brings news from afar, and Sedna is afar. But it also invites the devils, or inorganic beings,
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life forms we simply don't know how to handle, except if we are one of the few talented majikians on this planet. http://www.lava.net/~pagios The minimum angular separation between Mercury and Sedna happens May 29th 2004 at 14:03:10 , London. Sedna Ecl. Long. 048.5383 Ecl. Lat. -11.7372 Mercury Ecl. Long. 047.7408 Ecl. Lat. -02.3542 Distance 9.4 degrees. Yes it's moonrise with Chariklo in Crater, in Venice, Italy. The Moon on the equator is with Rhadamanthus on the ecliptic, both ascendantants Virgo. Phoebe (Saturn's moon) and Elatus (centaur) conjunct with Varuna (cubewano) and Mars in Gemini. 2003 QD112 and Cruithne (Earth's trojan moon in Cetus) are on the western horizon with 1996 TO66 hovering and challenging Hidalgo (in Cetus). Thereus and Bienor with Talos bracket the western horizon. Welcome to Sedna delineation. Our last check dismisses it's status as planet or "oortoid", since the object is still classified as centaur. Long shot but centaur. http://neodruid.tk /sedna ananta@spunge.org
When Mercury and Sedna conjunct, crisis happens to the sensitive, as well as inner clearing. The call of the unknown becomes unbearable. Infinity presses upon the shaman boy. Become one and learn how to calculate a conjunction. The first thing to do is removing the astrological program from your life. Mercury transports Sedna energy to the dangerous spot at the top of one's temple (falsely known as cakra). Hell opens. Hell is a place, inorganic kingdom so-to-say. Inorganic energy enters this world via one's temple on it's vampire errand. The inorganic scout takes the energy it can. One may fall ill, attempt suicide, stray away, have high temperature. People without shields especially "suffer" such transits. The "mad" are holy to Sedna. Let this point be taken into account when western medicine decides to become a decent, if not serious, science. The birth of Asterology has 2003 VS2 (in Perseus) conjunct Phaethon and Mercury in Aries and Sedna in Cetus. Now what is Sedna? For Sedna in the 7th, 6th, 12th, as well as 1st house, note that we use the equatorial ascendant, thus a planet above the horizon is observable, while the one below the horizon is not. Note that astrological programs don't take this into account, thus adding up to the already massive legacy of miscalculation and general desorientation in what goes under astrology even to this day. Sedna has been delineated in it's position, which is Cetus constellation. Orcus has been delineated in Hydra. Hydra and Cetus are both zodiacal constellations, thus we have Venus in Hydra or in Cetus. The delineations are on the site, as well as posted to usenet newsgroups. http://groups.google.com Sedna is being moonless which puzzles the scientists. The nature of the first large oortoid (minor) planet remains a mistery!!! IAU Compatible Astrology http://neodruid.tk /IAU Note that anyone assuming Sedna is "in Taurus" is dramatically wrong and off the mark. It would be worse than assuming Spica Virginis is in Libra. You don't have to think or be an astrologer to conclude Alpha Virginis is in Virgo. Where else? Note that people with strangely miscalculated charts tend to believe Spica Virginis is in Libra and worse. General errors from "authoritative" sites will miscalculate everything, from your (and theirs) own natal ascendant to the Moon's position. "Relieble" sources miscalculate ephemeris, misplace planets and have it all messed up. Take for instance a couple of such "authoritioes" as Alan Leo or Dane Rudhyar (see their charts corrected on the site, link below). The errors may be overlooked by non-predictional astrologers and casual horoscope makers, since for their purposes minutes of arc or even degrees do not make any difference (if anything does). The matter is not so complex but the state of mind of the average astrological onlooker is miserable (the voladero mind install or devil's mind). Whether a planet above the eastern horizon is or is not in the first house is a question generally disliked by "professional" astrologers. The sad fate of such multiplying fellowships of experts is arrays of miscalculated material. Not that it would be much better with precise positions. An astrologer today does not know what to make of "Sedna in Cetus" (not to speak of Orcus in Hydra) or Moon in Auriga or Venus in Scutum, or Sun in Ophiucus. Such "asstrollogy"
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as practiced today has to be eradicated for our race to survive 2012. Thus the neodruid transitional subcultureligion. One will say Asterology was born with Orcus ascending and Sedna M.C.. and so it may look to the onlooker. The truth is Eunomia was rising (with Orcus) in Hydra. Eunomia is a large main belt asteroid no astrological program has (although it has a minor chunk such as Juno). 19998 BU48 is closer to the horizon than 2001 BL41 (in Sextans, a zodiacal constellation, as well). There is no need to introduce comets, scan the western horizon and debate on the centaurs and various types of objects at this point. The only thing that one has to doubt is his own astrological program (especially the expensive fancy one), not to mention absurd web sites that pass as "authoritative", but in fact have nothing more to say about Sedna or anything than Yahoo has.
To have your positions wrong and misconceptions alligned I especially reccomend the most trusted sites. Your Moon will surely be out of constellation of course miscalculated by a sheer degree, your asc your ascendant will be missed by house, direction and orientation (say 20 degrees average will do), your Sun will be in the wrong constellation (that includes vedic, jyotish and sidereal experts) and your Sedna will be an Inuit-Yahoo product. A degree means a year in directional astrology, so every arc counts if you want your life to have some excellent Meet the wrong person and have Neptune in 7th instead of trusted and popular sites with Inuit astrologers who know about every tribe a new planet is born in, just for minute of timing. 6th using everything you.
About the most hillarious array of nonsensei is one little magazine very popular with smiling vedic astrologers, called the Mutant Astrologer. The mag and site announced the "entrance of Jupiter in Cancer" (at least as their math would have it) as the most happy year for the U.S.A. a couple of months later WTC happened. These are the folks you will continue to trust because you know and they know and everybody knows Madonna is a great artist and sells. Simple horoscopes and nonsense will sell and completely illiterate people will harrypotter you wearing big marcharing spectacles for your amusement and comfort. All will be fine in the U.S.A.. Jupiter is in Cancer. They hardly know what Jupiter looks like and where Cancer (or any _proper_ constellation Jupiter happens to find itself in) is. But the Earth is square, excuse me this distraction. The proof I'm right is that you who read this will continue using astrodatabanks and easy access online web programs for your first and possibly advanced astro training. you will never doubt the heap of nonsense written by "authoritative" astrologers, their lodges and (hillarious) "institutes". Worse, they will "inform" you about mayan and inuit astrology. Plug in that inuit thing into your big expensive horoscope and palm reader and enjoy the splashing matrix of nonsensei. But we promised a delineation here for times when man will walk this planet. Sedna While it is possible that Sedna has an unusual type of companion, her aloof position seems ideal for far reaching propaganda the way Missionaria Protectiva of the Bene Gesserit (Dune) functions: indoctrination in advance for protective and messianic purpO5es. When Sedna is "hooked" to your current astrological directions (e.g. primary directions), the combinations (Sun and Saturn as possible examples) favor the best year$ of your life! With Mars and Pluto, Sedna spreads gossip far and wide, so watch out if your marriage arrangements are involved. Kiss that frog before it leaps out of the gravitational well! Welcome to Sednastrology! Klaudio Zic presents: Sedna Delineation Visit also Varuna, Ixion and Quaoar Contents: 1. Sedna Delineation 2. Equatorial Ascendant 3. IAU Compatible 28 Zodiacal Constellations 4. An Initiation into IAU Compatible Astrology 5. Orcus Delineation Sedna in the 12 houses = A glimpse of the copious delineation given below (C) Copyright 2004 Zic Klaudio, all rights reserved. http://neodruid.tk 1. Insight. Balance. Spirits help averting heart disease. The runaway. 2. Astrologers will look for Sedna in the second house even in popular solar return charts! This is the best year one can have, finantially speaking. There's a hint at real estate, too. Talisman: the dollar, the Eye in the Triangle, Shiva.
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3. Do not travel to California; o.k. for New York (horary brief 4. Painful events within the family. 5. Extremely voracious and consuming in love and sex. 6. Sedna falling in the 6th house means God has come to serve. 7. Sincere relationship and souls entwined. Super marriage! 8. ESP. Visions after mindbody crisis. Several deaths. 9. Wherever I _choose_ to lay my hat is my home. 10. Green Man. Holy marriage. Immensely influential artist. 11. And they lived happily everafter! 12. Portraying Eva archetype. Bewitched by dangerous charms. (C) Copyright 2004 Zic Klaudio, all rights reserved. Sedna in the 7th house: Ad PROTECTORES Sedna in 11th (long file!) Angels adopt various non-enochain forms, as well. One feels his ascendental guardian angel, which brings us to the main topic astrology is about: angels (heads). What is one's true ascendant and it's angel? This is not a matter of simple calculation or evocation but can and _must_ be done if one is to be an astrologer. I personally know one single non-astrologer that evokes this point. Ad Sedna in the 7th House 7. Great love decision! One decides true love, as opposed to mere sexual gratification and love of money and social power. Sincere relationship and souls entwined. Super marriage! Mountain sisters? Twin souls? Check Davison charts! Dolphin intelligencies bless this marriage. Sedna's dolphins entwined are quite the opposite to the triurne Lamia of Orcus. Aloof Sedna has much love, but Orcus is a dangerous siren. Luckily for the thick skinned magus, Orcus will bite only to die from the poisonous magician's blood. One had to decide and perhaps one of the (three) lamia turns out to be his true bride under disguise. More like "kiss the right frog". There was no choice! Fate uis gentle sometimes. The innocent magus is not supposed to hide an undine. He should marry her. Human heart knows vary few faiths and faithfulness can become a problem. The undine won't tollerate breaching and will demand the death of the magus, who will degrade into an astral underwater servant in Sedna worlds unimaginable to the neophyte. Sedna is thus the punishing deity in service of the undine bride. various stories of sirens are in fact all true. One should be careful checking for latitude and horizon. When all is measured and checked out properly, there is no mistake and Sedna is _really_ in the 7th house! /b/
service of the moral magus. The most beautiful undines are actually a threat for the magus as many married one to regret it when they were unable to remain faithful. Undines punish unfaithfulness with death, justified by the very marriage contract. Sedna is an undine for all practical purposes. In the seventh house it plays like a dolphin with the magician's heart fountaining with love.
When is a planet in the 7th house? When above the horizon. Checking Sedna in teh 7th house is especially tricky. Try and get some hints learning from othe people's errors here: http://neodruid.tk /28 /extra /nu /dane.rudhyar /alan.leo The article is "7th House Switch" http://neodruid.tk /nu Sedna is otherwise in the 6th house. Your astological program does not know it. This is an old standard error of popular astrology for the masses. Many authors have their planets e.g. in the 12th when they're clearly in 1st, having the appropriate latitude and position under the eastern horizon. The ascendant is Due East, of course. A Note on Orcus below: Orcus is quite the reverse of Sedna in many aspects. Sedna's dolphins entwined are quite the opposite to the triurne Lamia of Orcus. Aloof Sedna has much love, but Orcus is a dangerous siren. Luckily for the thick skinned magus, Orcus will bite only to die from the poisonous magician's blood.
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As we can see, Sedna is quite the opposite watery elemental force - inorganic -planet than much more sinister Orcus. Since Sedna is delineated using true astronomical 28 (sic!) constellations zodiac, most unfamiliar even to astronomers, it's delineation in the 12 houses is preceded and purported by a little initiation in astronomical astrology, featuring the ascendental constellations (not the same as the zodiacal). (C) Copyright 2004 Zic Klaudio, all rights reserved. If we'd have no zodiac, we'd have no astrology! Use only the full 28 constellation astronomical zodiac with Sedna in Cetus! I am in Venice.it at this time, not in Tokyo.jp Sedna is in Cetus, not in Taurus. That's far apart, indeed. http://neodruid.tk /28 Astronomical 28 Constellation Zodiac http://neodruid.tk /sedna Sedna in Cetus Delineation The Sedna and Orcus delineations contain concepts unfamiliar to most astrologers (here are some): Is _your_ astrology IAU compatible? http://neodruid.tk /IAU 1. The zodiac has 28 constellations. 2. Secondary extrazodiacal progressions. 3. IAU compatible astrology = astronomy. 4. IAU constellations based delineation. 5. Saturn in Orion, Moon in Cetus, ... 6. Ascendants change with aeons and time. 7. Monoceros ascending. Lacerta zenithing. 8. Simscan progression of Earth trojan moons. 9. Secondary progressed Venus in Orion 2004. A note on extraterrestral conjunctions Juno and Pholus conjunct next Valentine, as seen from Sedna. This is a most twisted time as conjunctons from Sedna are rare events. Most object can not conjunct at all as seen from Sedna far away. The astrologer should be familiar with Cetus or Hydra ascending or on the meridian, before attempting to fully understand Orcus and Sedna in their current position. While at this time it is not possible for e.g. little Aries constellation to hold due east, it is perfectly possible for Sedna or Orcus to be ascending in their own constellations. Note that the 28 zodiacal constellations are not the same as the ascendental ones. Zenithing constellations are quite another set of archetypes and moreover most constellation sets we work with tend to chhange due to precession as well as location. In other words there is no such thing as the "12 signs" of the zodiac (not even 13 if we include Ophiucus), and there are surely a dozen more ascending constellations for your own location and time. Sextans could be ascending where one thought Virgo was. My own ascendant is Monoceros and the Unicorn is found (along with the Lion) in many royal horoscopes as we shall see below. http://neodruid.tk /28 or +385 91 108 108 4 for information. You can also use the newsgroup and e-mail news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 Voice Mail Messages +385 91 70 108 108 4 Receive and Transmit = Ascendental Constellations included below Further improvements feature the precise position of the Moon (very tricky!), the Sun in it's 13 IAU constellations, the introduction of the main comets (e.g. recent NEAT comet http://neodruid.tk /comet), all Earth trojans or semi-moons, all centaurs, main cubewano and plutino objects with an occasional SDO. 2004 celebrates with a Moon in Cetus new year. The site contains the delineations of the Moon and planets in their IAU constellations, e.g. Pluto in Cetus, Moon in Sextans; as well as either rather copious delineations or just footnotes of early and new centaurs http://neodruid.tk /centaurs and giant TNO Varuna, Ixion, 2002 AW197, 2002 TX300, Quaoar, Orcus and Sedna. Varuna, Ixion and Quaoar have received special attention. http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html as well as some centaurs like Pylenor 1994 TA that we mention all over this article. The article contains enough information to make the astronomer laugh tears of joy as astronomy and astrology were never really apart at all. Any mayan reading this will agree on most premises, since we try and use archaic methods e.g. the meridian and horizon, something commonplace astrology dares not. This text is a long file (over 100 Kb). There are shorter Sedna info files in our archives http://neodruid.tk /sedna Here's one of the many manifest - like articles you can find browsing http://groups.google.com for "True Rising Constellations". Note that this article precedes my discovery of the astronomical research in the true zodiac led in 1977 by Dr. Lee Saphiro of Morehead Planetarium, NC. Hope that my little research remains
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if not astronomically meticulous, at least amusing and correct. Introduction = 28 Zodiacal = Current Ascendental Constellations Note again that "zodiacal" and "ascendental" are not the same at all, while both categories, most remarkably the ascendental are liable to change. It is easy to see how the ascendents change with precession and location. This interesting subject deserves attention and copious computation. This one was done on i386. ASTROLOGY RELOADED (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. Simply the East! http://neodruid.tk /nu True Eastern Ascendant Ascendants change with precession. = True Rising Constellations = Reload here: http://neodruid.tk /nu An american citizen has the right to know. He has the right to know which objects circle around his head (he's paid for), but most of all he has the right to know which constellations were active at the time of his own birth. Astronomers will know. There are people who are not astronomers but know something about astrology. In fact the 12 signs system is used to this day even in astronomy, although the usual format is RA/decl. People are told their ascending constellation is Aries when it is clearly not and cannot possibly be. The ascendant usually measured is `known' as `eastern constellation' but is usually the northeastern or southeastern part (at best) of the constellation. Here are the constellations that _can_ rise in due East in 2003. Ophiucus Serpens Cauda Aquila (Equuleus) Aquarius Pisces Cetus (A really insignificant portion of Taurus) Eridanus Orion Monoceros (Canis Minor) Hydra Sextans (A small part of) Leo (Crater ...) Virgo (Libra) Serpens Caput Ophiucus The cow looks over the Due East fence and she sees Monoceros. But a cow looking over the same fence 30000 years ago would perhaps see Crater or even Aries. Let's check it out, then: Triangulum Aries (Perseus) Taurus Orion Gemini Canis Minor Hydra (Sextans) Hydra Crater Hydra Centaurus Lupus Scorpio Ophiucus Sagittarius Serpens Cauda Scutum Aquila Aquarius Equuleus Pegasus Andromeda Pisces Triangulum The cow had a significantly different perspective due to precession. Thus Monoceros (my own true ascendant and prince William's descendant) could not possibly be due East (or West) 30000 years ago. Interesting.
IAU Compatible Astrology = Equatorial Ascendant http://neodruid.tk /IAU
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Determining one's proper or equatorial ascendant may resulty tricky as in my own case. Strictly confirming to the IAU standards, the due eastern or equatorial ascendant is Hydra, but taking into account the nearest stars (in our case Zeta Monoceri), the ascendant is Monoceros. Canis Minor is near as we face one of the typically doubtful ascendental positions as myself feel monoceric or unicornish as well as hydrish due to my leadership spirit (Monoceros, Unicorn) and my occult pursuit (Hydra, Watersnake, Tiamat). Canis Minor often stands for national minority as it seems I have been born under a triurne influence. The advice is to go for precision in calculus, estimating Hydra ascending, then investigating the nearest stars and constellations. I have recently bought a pack of plastic spiders (myself being "tarant8la" netwise) when Arachne made it's 2004 GV9 conjunction, with Spica; my natal Jupiter and a host of important objects very near. In this case the equatorial ascendant is in the very focus of the analysis. Hope this helps my students in their own research. We are doubtlessly escavating mayan stuff, while breaking into new fields where the only thing that is sure is that the old stuff is more unsure than what we just dug out. Sincerely, Klaudio Zic a.k.a. Claudio Antonio Valentin Solis http://neodruid.tk P.S. What do we mean by "nearest star"? We confess this is a vague definition. We mean the nearest traditional object in this case, since there are "hydric" objects that are nearer to our ascendental point then the mentioned monoceris star. The further difficulties issue from our never being sure of the exact timing (or time in general) of the event. We are sure our fellow researchers will enjoy this element of fun in research, a sort of astrognomical puzzle for all. Large constellations don't offer much fun, but with Eridanus and Taurus, as well as a number of ascendental cases, we are never bored at all. 60 000 years from now, Centaurus is both an equatorial and an ecliptical ascending constellation, but we tend to study the actual ascending constellations which is in itself tricky enough, thanks God and astrology. For the newcomers ================= Our true IAU compatible zodiac has 28 constellations. The ascendental set may vary around two dozen. We take the planetary positions exactly where they are astronomically speaking and thus conflict sets of false calculations from Alan Leo to nowdays web sites that assume systems and stars that never ever existed and do not confirm any convention, mayan or egyptian as well. IAU compatible has nothing to do with vedic, tropical, sidereal, jyotish and alike, but could here and there have something to do, eventually speaking, with chinese, mayan, shumerian and egyptian observations; as time gets by and new experiments are introduced atop a solid modern basis for all astrological calculus.
It is interesting to know your Moon may be in Cetus, Corvus, Orion, Ophiucus, Auriga or Sextans constellations, your Pluto in Coma Berenices, your Saturn in Cetus, Venus in Hydra and Sun in Ophiucus. Pluto is in Ophiucus and the Moon is in Cetus once a month, so we are not talking about rare or remote cases of extrazodiacal behavior. http://neodruid.tk /extrazodiacal delienations for your extrazodiacals Run to NASA and be informed and order your True Chart here! = Clear Skies! = news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5
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Clearing your light coocoon is knowing the Intent of Heaven||| (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://neodruid.tk Rising Constellation: Sextans Sat Aug 09 20:09:38 GMT 2003
Introduction (Continued) Tis is the 28 astronomical zodiac:
Do we have only 13 zodiacal constellations, or up to 24? = 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://neodruid.tk (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html It is widely ignored that the true zodiacal band does not contain 13 constellations only (Ophiucus including), but also a motley variety of constellations usually unknown to the average astrologer. If Pluto was a planet, we would have 28 zodiacal constellations. If we discard Pluto as a mere transneptunian it is, we have a neat set of 24 (on the double!) constellations. Expanding with Pluto, that for most astrologers is nothing but a planet, we have the following 28 constellations the planets travel through at this time and age: = 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://neodruid.tk The 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac Aquarius Aries Auriga Bootes Cancer Canis Minor Capricornus Cetus Coma Berenices Corvus Crater Eridanus Gemini Hydra Leo Leo Minor Libra Ophiucus Orion Pegasus Pisces Sagittarius Scorpius Scutum Serpens Sextans Taurus Virgo = 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://neodruid.tk We have stated the Sun dwells "only 5 days" in Scorpius, while it can apparently extend it's Scorpius sojourn to a week! The largest constellation occupying the zodiac band is Virgo, where the Sun lodges for 46 days. We have the Moon moving through Libra, Scorpius and Ophiucus for this Valentine. Let there be noted that the Sun is in Ophiucus for an average of 18 days, roughly from Nov 30th to Dec 17th every year. Transneptunians like Quaoar, Pluto or 2002 MS4, as well as giant plutino Ixion are likely to dwell there for extended periods. The Sun spends an average of 23 days in Libra, 7 in Scorpius and 18 in Ophiucus. This may vary from year to year, of course. It is therefore a challenge for the incipient astrologer to calculate his natal Sun's position. = 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://neodruid.tk The progressions of the planets have been called "extrazodiacal", while there's in fact nothing "extrazodiacal" in Orion or Ophiucus and the rest, since the planets dwell quite normally there. We had Saturn in Orion last year (and during the world wars), Usama had the Moon near Xi Orionis and so did the WTC tragedy. Scutum or Auriga may look arcane, but there is a score of positions that are common place (e.g. Keanu Reeves' Mercury in Sextans), like this year's Venus in Orion or recent Venus in Ophiucus. http://neodruid.tk /extra /cetus http://neodruid.tk /nu /sambora (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html Valentine marks the end of Sun's journey through Capricornus and it's entry into Aquarius. But does the Sun determine the Zodiac? O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://neodruid.tk Homework for my Students:
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Which objects visit Serpens Cauda, Serpens Caput, Canis Minor or Auriga? When (if ever) does it happen that Pluto travels through Pisces or Aries? Can Crater be ascending? Which major centaur dwells in Crater? Progress 2002 AW197 in Tiamat's surrounding. How many days _after_ Valentine the Sun enters into Aquarius? = 28 Constellations of the True Zodiac = http://neodruid.tk
Sedna and Orcus delineation continues here:
SEDNA (Continued) Sedna is the Whale Queen, protector of the dolphins, as well as astral dolphinlike inorganic angels-helpers. This is for Silver Belt. The archetype of the Whale is what Genesis or Creation is about. The naming goes to noumens or "mental" world archetypes. Adam kadmon gave the name to all the demons (often translated "animals"). Later Adams ate pork. Astralogy works with archetypes. The constellations mimick archetypes. Orion and the Milky Way are the Stairway to Heaven (http://neodruid.tk /nu/stargate), the Leviathan is Cetus. All this beautiful lessons are still possible while we are redeeming towards astronomy compatible astrology, even IAU compatible astrology. The ascendental constellations change with the aeons, but the zodiacal don't change, or at least not much to our knowledge. Cetus is already a zodiacal constellation. Always been. Many astrologers have the Moon in Cetus or several planets. http://neodruid.tk /extra /cetus No astrologer to my knowledge can possibly have Pluto in Aries or Pisces, but many have Pluto in Cetus. Luckily soon Pluto is not a planet, we'll call it GA.GA as our zodiac drops from 28 to 24 constellations "only". The Sun journeys through 13 constellations, but the planets and the Moon journey through 24 constellations. If Pluto were a planet (astronomers disagree), we'd keep our neat 28 constellation zodiac (expaded in a 29 piece one for the convenience of Serpens Cauda and Caput, astrologically speaking!).
The constellations "changed". What "was" the Tapir is now Taurus to us. We must study the ancients and update to new discoveries. What else can we do? Or should? I'm aware I'm speaking like Morpheus. That is because I have Monoceros ascending. People are free to carry on, tropically intended. Leaning towards astronomy would mean the end of our errors, while making mistakes seems the business of the human. Sedna is not so much human as all that. This update bears more darshan flavor and introduces Pylenor as the killer of the social being. Orcus has been updated & incorporated in this very document. = SEDNA in the 12 ASTROLOGICAL HOUSES = Featuring Orcus Plutino Contains a short majikal initiation, as well as Sedna talisman hints Get rich with horary $edna in the second house and savour the deep sea taste of Sednastrology while Sedna is still in Cetus constellation! Princess Diana has her Sedna in the 4th house. Read about Sedna in the 4th house, comparing your results to those of the centaurean astrologers. http://groups.yahoo.com /Centaurs .ch .cr .ru .it O.fi.uk Time to meet some swiss and costarican astrology:) >Sedna has been greatly updated, not only in it's 6th house of ritual >majik; see under 6. below. Vedic and castanedian lore incorporated as >usual. Many comments added. People who go to extremes have Sedna >prominent in their natal horoscope! Check 11th house, too. Sedna acts in = direction = with fair impact. The "transits" are one of perhaps 250 types of directions at the service of the astrologer. Sedna in directions (just an example) /sedna
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The astrological "directions" are a popular set of perhaps over 250 types of calculus. The most direct are the primary directions. The directions enable the astrologer to determine in seconds or minutes (at first sight; no computer or any tool) all the major events in one's life: mariage, love affairs, peril, ... and that with excellent (to the month, even the day) timing. Sedna "directed" with Venus will produce the most amazing year love has to give, and that not only in good, but also in bad (= selfish) respect. Sedna has definitively a relationship with Venus. We are beginning to discover, as well as disclose this secret relationship. Angular Venus Sedna positions make for extreme love (and hate?!?). Sedna in good aspect with Venus produces: P+sitive effects: Love of one's life, popular and beloved by many, mutual orgasm, bewitched by one's own charms, voodoo issues, sexual exaltations, Casanova. N+gative effects: Confused divination, jealousy, confusion, chaos, too much of a good thing, sweeped away by love. The year influenced by Sedna and Venus by direction can be fatal for lifetime! http://neodruid.tk Note that when we use "New Planet", we mimick the news prior to the NASA announcement. Sedna is a minor planet, a centaur, according to the MPC. Pluto is officially still a planet, but among experts it is no more one. = New Planet Sedna in Finantial Astrology = http://neodruid.tk Sedna has already a fair finantial record. Why does it influence the finantial $econd house of the horo$cope with such impetu$? Albeit the hint at Admetos was a joke, it might rise some interest and stirr some serious training. I leave it as it is. Darkplanet Syrinx is quite the opposite, while Admetos (or Admetus?) positively furthers stock exchange. 2002 AW197 will help with large partitions of real estate and money in general, and 2002 MS4 will afford masonic help. Hypoteticals such as the Avestans, Rathke Planets (see under "darkplanets" on the site), and the Hamburg planets precede the recent discoveries. Admetos is favorable to stock exchange, much as 2002 AW197 is favorable to real estate. The Sedna - Admetos "relationship" was a pure whim of the pen. It is always funny to provoke astrologers over the USENET. However, since there is some logic as concerns Admetos position, we include the passage in hope it sharpens minds. And pens. Is Sedna Admetos? It could well be! It is not Phoebus of the Rathke Planets, but it perhaps qualifies as Admetos of the hamburgers. The last word is on Hamburg, of course. /Adm/:) = SEDNA in the 12 ASTROLOGICAL HOUSES = Featuring Orcus Plutino The recent large astronomical discoveries are being delineated in astrological terms. After Varuna, Ixion, 2002 AW197, 2002 TX300 and that legendary Quaoar, we have Orcus and Sedna. Enjoy this time of new classes of objects. The adventure started with 1992 QB1 a decan ago. 800 Kuiper Belt objects await delineation and as it seems we have out first Oort Cloud Object 2003 VB12 "Sedna". = Sedna = Astrological Delineation Update = http://neodruid.tk It was the summer of '69. http://neodruid.tk /sedna/summer69.gif Periodical summer conjunctions of our 2nd & 3rd moons (Cruithne & 2002 AA29) involve Sedna and this is a superb omen as it brings relief to the omniverse. The nearest and the most distant blend in cOMmunion! The most happy nativities are those enjoying close conjunctions of 2002 AA29 and Sedna, such as in summer 1969. /*/ Our semi-"moons" are of course trojans. We may share some of them with Venus. This field is rather new to astronomy. 2002 PH5 has been included in the simulations. Several megabytes of new material scan Sedna skies in detail, including Orcus and objects of interest, most remarkably Thereus, the centaur. One note: some trojans, SDO and other objects do not conjunct Sedna, even if the longitude seems right. The extreme latitudes (declinations) carry such objects even over the "polar caps" of Omniverse.
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Extra care (meaning astronomy) should be exercized in the case of object 2002 VQ94 (which has a colorful) set of constellations on it's itinerary. The object crosses to Hydra but far from Orcus. See /Hydra3 This effect is particullary felt in the sixties! The closest and the most unimaginably distant and undiscovered blend in the sixties. Let us not forget the astral vedic and Rathke Planets, as well as a host of hypoteticals from Cassini Lilith to Nibiru. The sixties downloaded this influences and we're just unzipping the files. Centaur Thereus joins the configuration in the early seventies. Centaur Pholus underlines the conjunctions around 1984. Chiron passes by, towering. (This is the product of a brief scan; other objects of interest are surely involved!). Sedna 531.657634 0.857434 11.9304 144.4929 311.8271 53200.5 357.8815 1.7 2003VB12 531.657634 0.857434 11.9304 144.4929 311.8271 53200.5 357.8815 1.7 Cruithne 0.99764 .514819 19.8114 126.4230 43.6000 48200.5 285.4393 15.0 2004CJ39 12.952050 0.477604 3.5772 334.9720 133.6604 53040.5 5.4183 14.0 Orcus 39.473609 0.217911 20.5553 268.5371 73.3331 53200.5 157.5394 2.4 Since Sedna is fairly removed from most interplanetary disputes, it must be consulted as a fair judge over the petty gravitational matters closer to us. Astrologers either consult the centaurs, which are perturbed by various planets, or the aloof world of the transneptunians. But how can Orcus judge? Is Quaoar fair? Nessus is too disturbed to do any judgement, and Asbolus, albeit magus, has not as yet seen it all. The centaurs lack perspective as they're thrown here and there by influences and planetary gravitation. The centaurs are our close dark archangels, but they are unable to encompass and judge creation. Only Sedna is capable of impartial empathy towards the centaurs and transneptunian cubewano, plutino (and SDO) objects. Get rich with horary $edna in the second house and savour the deep sea taste of Sednastrology while Sedna is still in Cetus constellation! /Adm/ Admetos is a hypotetical and as such lacks perspective. Sedna is a real object in Cetus, while hypotheticals seldom claim latitude, declination or constellation. | This leaves Admetos = Sedna as an interesting (or mere?) speculation. The second house effect is, nevertheless, remarkable. Perhaps the two (?) work together?
As promised, a little majikal initiation + SEDNA IN MAJIK + = Sedna in Majik = Featuring Dolphin Talismans by neodruid.tk Not only the centaurs like Asbolus or 1992 TA ("Pylenor") have their majikal attributes. Sedna is aloof but filters majik as well by the very virtue of it's placement against us. Sedna is largely unconcerned with the inner turnmoil of the known solar system. Her gifts are thus disinteressed with no strings attached. This article precedes Sedna in the 12 astological houses much is the same fashion evocational majik is the well of astrological initiation. We don't suppose the house Franz Bardon has his own Sedna in, as we introduce it here for the sake of record. Sedna is overaspected in the magus incarnation horoscope but it is most remarkably the Saturn Mars midpoint as it seems responsable for the magician's captivity. Namely the nazi and a black lodge succeeded in torturing the magus. This is a complex subject and horoscope I must leave to more expert times. http://neodruid.tk /sedna frabato Frabato's supposed troubles with the undines and watery element had a happy ending after dire danger. The depths are there to teach. It seems yet another type of masonry enjoys plumpy water sprites (more plumpy than sprites) here. Our obscure masonic hero Giacomo Casanova midpoints Sedna within his winning Mars Jupiter in 5th with womboid Cruithne brushing by. Sedna is long large and eternal erection and a peculiar disinterest in all the things one posessed. I love all, desire all, and after having it I don't crave for it any longer. I have left that girl by the river, while it's still in your mind. Castazeniac vibes, indeed. Casanova reminds us that Sedna is not Admetos is not Nemesis. http://neodruid.tk /reports /reports1 Casanova features Venus Devil Rose, HPMHC descending, Pholus Pluto, Sun Amor (darkplanet), bedsides Cruithne Sedna Mars Jupiter cluster. Admetos and Nemesis (darkplanet) seem involved with the magician's Moon.
Aleister Crowley's Sedna initiates him into love majik. This issues 93 Agape - Thelema = the famous formula of Love under Will. Bardon adds "strong will" for the occasion, but this can be misleading. Will is best conveyed by Carlos Castaneda, in my oppinion. Changing hostility into friendship has been Crowley's forte, but in cases like Mussolini, he also failed to obtain _too_much_ friendship and sanctuary. perhaps this is a Sedna lesson: don't
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ask too much, or (for my O5 Masters:) "What does God (the Eagle) owe to me that he must jump like a dog at my every whim?". Modesty. Perhaps Sedna helps the aloof and disposes of the wordly man. One can drink lemonade before and perhaps after the Holy Guardian Angel appears. It is of course not any of my business to spill lemonade. Sedna progresses very slowly in the magician's life. Year 1904. (See http://neodruid.tk /Orcus). Sedna brings the magician to his purpO5e. PurpO5e is also the theme of Matrix-the-movie. Akasha is loaded with PurpO5e. Rituals are carried on in the physical, astral and mental domain. The secrets of the water element are hidden in Sedna's progress. The spirits of the water elements led by Sedna's progress in Cetus and the appropriate degree = head (spirit star or ascended master = friendly inorganic being = immortal) are at the service of the moral magus. The most beautiful undines are actually a threat for the magus as many married one to regret it when they were unable to remain faithful. Undines punish unfaithfulness with death, justified by the very marriage contract. Sedna is an undine for all practical purposes. In the seventh house it plays like a dolphin with the magician's heart fountaining with love. Sedna's dolphins entwined are quite the opposite to the triurne Lamia of Orcus. Aloof Sedna has much love, but Orcus is a dangerous siren. Luckily for the thick skinned magus, Orcus will bite only to die from the poisonous magician's blood. The innocent magus is not supposed to hide an undine. He should marry her. Human heart knows vary few faiths and faithfulness can become a problem. The undine won't tollerate breaching and will demand the death of the magus, who will degrade into an astral underwater servant in Sedna worlds unimaginable to the neophyte. Sedna is thus the punishing deity in service of the undine bride. various stories of sirens are in fact all true. Sedna dips into the waters of our local omniverse like a siren launching a deep cry into her waters. Science and vedic lore agree about the composition of the minor planets in that they are composed of ice (water) and alcol. Sedna currently initiates (via the appropriate degree spirit star head and ritual) into loveamulets. The amulets must be charged by a trained and moral magus. ( Meaning 30 to 50 years of secret and very hard training. )
= SEDNA in the 12 ASTROLOGICAL HOUSES = Featuring Orcus Plutino The recent large astronomical discoveries are being delineated in astrological terms. After Varuna, Ixion, 2002 AW197, 2002 TX300 and that legendary Quaoar, we have Orcus and Sedna. Enjoy this time of new classes of objects. The adventure started with 1992 QB1 a decan ago. 800 Kuiper Belt objects await delineation and as it seems we have out first Oort Cloud Object 2003 VB12 "Sedna". http://neodruid.tk /sedna /Orcus /quaoar /varuna /ixion /comet
>> The article contains Sedna and Orcus delineations, as well > as their meaning in the 12 horizon based astrological houses Since both Sedna and Orcus contain watery flavor, they are coupled in this analysis. Morever the Sedna communication comes in synch with Orcus discovery, even if it's own discovery is marked Nov 11th 2003. The Minor Planet Center still classifies Sedna as centaur object and we will probably see new classes of objects popping out soon as we already did lately. The zodiac loses 4 constellations, assuming Pluto is _not_ a planet. In that case Eridanus (NEAT comet http://neodruid.tk /comet, river Po in Italy), Bootes (pastoral religions), Coma Berenices (Tiepolo's Veronica's Hair at San Alvise) and Leo Minor (EVANGELVS SECUNDVS) become EXTRA-zodiacal constellations, while they were of course zodiacal in times when Pluto was officially a planet. Sitchinian proposals taken into consideration, we have GAGA as Saturn's ex satellite. Our zodiac reduces thus to 24 constellations, 25 in extension, conveniently splitting Serpens in two. http://neodruid.tk /extra/cetus Is your natal Moon in Cetus, too? Why Cetus? Because it is a _zodiacal_ constellation. Misconceptions have the zodiac a 12 constellation ring, when it is a 13 (Ophiucus!) constellation ring as concerns the Sun. The Sun journeys through 13 constellations. But the Moon, Pluto and the planets journey through 28 constellations! This is largely out of reach for the practical (?) 12zodiacal (often "tropical") astrologer. This astrologer is _not_ concerned with the way things are (or were), he deals with unexisting positions, impossible conjunctions, immersed in a virtual simplified equinoctial model of the constellations, good enough for some old egyptian primary school perhaps, but not good at all for serious research. No wonder astronomers keep laughing at tropical astrologers: they deserve it in many ways. So do the siderealists and the vedic. All of them refuse to take a simple glance at the sky. http://neodruid.tk /28 http://neodruid.tk /sedna in 12 houses
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Sedna is the protector of tritons, undines and evocational magick dealing with the watery element, especially while it still dives through Cetus. Watermonsters, krakens, lamias and sirens speak through dolphins and whales to the uninitiated. As concerns travel, it is obvious Sedna will bring the acolyte across to Avalon, as not just long journeys, but actually journeys out of this world pertain to Sedna. Sedna's orbit alone dictates long distance communication as Sedna features in horoscopes of meditators, shamans and people who reside for a long time from home. Sedna will determine space mission captains in the future. Sedna liberates the meditator! Sedna is not perturbed (much) by the planets, and is almost untouched by sunrays, the better for the meditator to escape the ego-fires of the heart-Sun. The Sun is malefic in vedic tought, as the Moon is truemind. The centripetal pull of the Sun and it's ego wishes symbolize (if not incorporate!) ego will (me, me!), but Sedna is (almost = savikalpa samadhi) liberated from the major gravitational basin, it is part of our system but fairly with an "independent" (?) orbit. It is thus symbolized by the meditator in savikalpa samadhi. :::||| heart = Sedna = http://neodruid.tk /sedna in the 12 astrological houses
Sedna in Cetus in the 12 Astrological Horizon based Houses (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /sedna 1. The runaway. Black sheep. Straying away from any pack. Smiling into one's own chin for no reason at all. Defying reason for no reason. Just not. Just like this. Simply unfathomable. Too simple to be understood. Alien in a homely way. Nt at all homely in an alien way. The only one that really cares is an understanding stranger.
Lost in the woods at night. Let'em seek me? Nobody needs to discover me. Insight. Balance. The Temple promotes longevity. Ancestral spirits help averting heart disease. Running away from one's family and friends, as well as lover. Sedna is far far away, yet it gravitates. Aloofness. Not at all understanding oneself, not to mention others. Finding weird unusual friendships in times of crisis. Running and hiding, sometimes to be sought for (sometimes not) is a way to communicate one's aloofness, one's misalignment with society. Extreme cases mean extreme aloofness and with agressive aspects perhaps tendency towards autoanihillation (seemingly a way to be very far, indeed). Hide and seek can nevertheless be dramatic and fatal, since even good nativities undergo agressive directions, as well as challenging transits. Be extra careful with 6th and 7th house planets, as well as 1st and 7th house placements as most astrological programs mistake the real positions, assuming the Sun rises in Due East. E.g. many of you have Neptune in 6th and not in 7th as the program shows. This is due to southern latutude and due western horizon. 2. Astrologers will look for Sedna in the second house even in popular solar return charts! This is the best year one can have, finantially speaking. There's a hint at real estate, too. Talisman: the dollar, the Eye in the Triangle, Shiva. Windfall. The guru afloat on the sea. Sincerity. Good winds. Chopping wood for the winter. Cached wood carried to the stove. Storage. Resourceful? The maiden chops wood. Is Sedna Admetos? It could well be! It is not Phoebus of the Rathke Planets, but it perhaps qualifies as Admetos of the hamburgers. The last word is on Hamburg, of course. Get rich with horary $edna in the second house and savour the deep sea taste of Sednastrology while Sedna is still in Cetus constellation! = New Planet Sedna in Finantial Astrology = http://neodruid.tk Sedna has already a fair finantial record. Why does it influence the finantial $econd house of the horo$cope with such impetu$? Hypoteticals such as the Avestans, Rathke Planets (see under "darkplanets" on the site), and the Hamburg planets precede the recent discoveries. Admetos is favorable to stock exchange, much as 2002 AW197 is favorable to real estate. Is Sedna Admetos? It could well be! It is not Phoebus of the Rathke Planets, but it perhaps qualifies as Admetos of the hamburgers. The last word is on Hamburg, of course.
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/Adm/ Admetos is a hypotetical and as such lacks perspective. Sedna is a real object in Cetus, while hypotheticals seldom propose a declination and constellation. This leaves Admetos = Sedna as an interesting (or mere?) speculation. The second house effect is, nevertheless, remarkable. Perhaps the two (?) work together? Leaving behind one's research for the pO5terity. Resourceful. Well-ordered or rather organized set of premises. A research into the dark side of the soul (voladero mind). Far reaching ideas influencing pO5terity? "What I win I keep". Refined science being used to make money ever after? Discontinued research? Wearing a tail one dislikes = perhaps leaving a broad line of unwanted "followers" behind. About Sedna in the Second House Baghdad has Sedna in second house. Since year 762 it was a rich city. "Resourceful" is a better word for second house matters. The second house is also PORTA INFERNA. The lord of this world is the inorganic parasit-predator (voladero, devil) that installs his own mind instead of the original one into the newborn on which it feeds. Our beliefs are thus the product of an inorganic strategy. Thus the saints chose caverns, not libraries. I guess I owe Baghdad birth data to Juan Antonio Revilla. 3. Inorganic being, but not as yet or necessary already or ever a helper. Non-human, but perhaps rather evil. Black packt. Easter. Do not travel to California; o.k. for New York (horary brief). An ally, when tamed (see Holy Bible, PNIAL, Peniel) is an useful inorganic being, "kept in the pouch". 4. Painful events within the family. This is the position of + Princess Diana. Turning into a wolf? Goethia. Barbaric invocation formulae. Howling like a wolf in trance and extasy. Aiming at the wild Holy Guardian Angel? Spelled by a mature woman? Packting with some devil. Plutonic position. Selling one's soul. Selling one's soul but eventually getting away with it. Obtaining both the purse full of gold and the hand of Helen of Troy, plus heavenly extras. Almost a lucky man? Desperately enamored! The cusp of the 4th house is Nadir (not I.C.). This position is most important as it strikes Sedna's own family affairs. Her family then expands to all astral fauna. The shepardess of the astral dolphins is surely heart-wounded after the slaughter done to whales and dolphins. AVE MARIA STELLA MARIS. Sedna can be coupled with Santa Lucia in her inorganic aspect. This will be done in Venice in summer gift to students, readers and O5 classes. All pierced, broken and lightning-transfixed Hearts fall under this category. Loser? One who barters both with God and the Devil? Keywords: Selling one's soul (more or less immortal?) but getting away with it. Hunting high and low, obtaining material as well as some spiritual prize. A fatal position? Dangerous underwater forces at work. Subconscious elements stirring. Princess Diana has this position along with a second house Saturn closely squaring Sedna. Saturn features in Prince Charles 2nd house, too. The princess has her Sun closely conjunct Orcus. The couple shares Monoceros horizons with Prince William. Rough for real estate matters. Throwong one out of his house. Finally dislodging someone. Get 'em up by Saturday. Large real estate manipulation. Smuggling weapons, military scandal, bad with Algol (cutting heads). Perhaps like nazi crimes towards the chosen paople. Dislodging one from his own country? Then America and Israel? Forceful actions bent on punishing criminals, scaring the badger out of his den. Applying legal constraint and force? Bribery as applied to the military? Disarmament. IBM. Genetic control and manipulation. http://neodruid.tk /clone Secrete bases and experiments under the sea. Atlantis reemerging? This position is sensitive to Saturn effects, as well as Jupiter
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Saturn aspects in direction. It is like a good Jupiter Saturn square. Selling soul is a way of putting it. One obtains the inorganic but is obliged to return service. one should avoid in majik, even when a "honest" "fair exchange". No dwarf, angel or nymph is to some service from This is something inorganic offers be trusted 100 %.
5. The totem of this position is the tortoise. The guardian angel can appear as tortoise avatar. The Tarot card is Princess of Cups ( I Ching #41 ). Extremely voracious and consuming in love and sex. Legendary jealousy. Abandoned to sex. Archetypal sex. ? mangled ? suicidal ? secret suffering ? lack of emotion ? Extremely feminine, never at first sight. Manequine. Catwalk. Die-hard. Devilishly sly. extreme punishments and rewards in one's sexual life. Money hungry. Burglary. Risky life always at one edge. Dangerous passions. Drugs? Extreme travel or exotical countries at surprise. (Take Finland for an example.) Death on two legs. Silent mistress. Oral service. Mysterious or too simple a lover? The return of the beloved after a long time (10 years perhaps). Phantasmagoria while unbeliavable complications in love and sex. Bonnie but no Clyde? A favorable issue to steeling a wife. Stolen wife was not hidden (well)? Magus and Astrologer. Sexual pest. Burglary after enrichment? The unexpected Aiwass-like ward. FIAT LVX. The wish to go far, thus entrapped! The innocent magus is not supposed to hide an undine. He should marry her. Human heart knows vary few faiths and faithfulness can become a problem. The undine won't tollerate breaching and will demand the death of the magus, who will degrade into an astral underwater servant in Sedna worlds unimaginable to the neophyte. Sedna is thus the punishing deity in service of the undine bride. various stories of sirens are in fact all true. It seems yet another type of masonry enjoys plumpy water sprites (more plumpy than sprites) here. Our obscure masonic hero Giacomo Casanova midpoints Sedna within his winning Mars Jupiter in 5th with womboid Cruithne brushing by. Sedna is long large and eternal erection and a peculiar disinterest in all the things one posessed. I love all, desire all, and after having it I don't crave for it any longer. I have left that girl by the river, while it's still in your mind. Castazeniac vibes, indeed. Casanova reminds us that Sedna is not Admetos is not Nemesis. http://neodruid.tk /reports /reports1 Casanova features Venus Devil Rose, HPMHC descending, Pholus Pluto, Sun Amor (darkplanet), bedsides Cruithne Sedna Mars Jupiter cluster. Admetos and Nemesis (darkplanet) seem involved with the magician's Moon. http://neodruid.tk /venexia/casanova for birthplace and myth. Thelemite. Vegetarian. Hare Krsna. Drug addict? Black robes. Silent gothic environmant. Playing with a "terrible" black dog. Out of the common. Outcast? Condemned because of one's love life. Sins of youth. Does not want to have babies at all. Undecided abut motherhood for a long time? (But not like cold Saturn in 5th.) Research into (im)possibility of having posterity. She's a lady, she has time to brush back her hair. The final choice after the most improbable sex life complications may be solitude. Sedna is aloof. 6. Guess who? Nelson Rockefeller. A great bhakti? The dollar bill still has God watching you and perhaps worshiping the bill leads towards great spiritual achievements. God's sponsor. One who pledges to build a Church for God. Can mean your financial situation improves considerably. Compare Orcus delineation below where we have an allusion to Mother Mary ( = Isis ). Sedna offers darshans. Evoking God's help has spectacular effect in this pO5ition! God not only comes but also makes a show with so much lightning! The innocent and reverent receive help from Godhead himSelf. Holy Mary will surely help very fast. This is Holy Mary
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"snowcrashing", i.e. producing fast results (through the Matrix). The event matrix is either maniplated or grace has been received. 10 maggio 2004 God is not only at the service of the hermit, it forms an alliance here. This is the pO5ition of the Covenant. Ally with God from within and he comes in visible form (avatara). The loner talks to God and receives response. A difficult (most likely emotional) stuation is resolved in a providential way, not at all expected, calculable and most unfathomably undivinable. The Cosmical Secretary downloads a solution to an event. 10 maggio 2004 22:46:31 CET news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 http://neodruid.tk /pcs
The darshan can be bloody as in the example of Prahlada Maharaj where the deity butchers the opponent after playing with it! ( Let it be noted and not only for the sake of mere record, that Nara-Shimha = Saint Marc's Lion = Regulus = Mikael the archangel. Help comes sort of unexpectedly, although the faithful is one with "his" deity mO5t of the time. Sincerity, rather than elaborate rituals (elaborate rituals often serve materialistic goals: observe our european churches, for istance:) !!! This position means the church !!! God-downloaded energy is felt like miracle. The natural shaman is absorbed by and in deity = nature = the present. "Inorganic" refers to entities = beings ( ? ) of the other realms of life. Our fellows love in parallel worlds here and now. They are sometimes classified as "scouts" ( Carlos Castaneda). God "descends" slaying the carrier of the inorganic pest. God kills the devil, or at least it's mortal frame. The devil is by far more equipied to kill man, but God is by far more equipied to kill the devil. This is not so christian-linear, as the inorganic pest partakes in creation. For those who aim at liberation from the devil, there's some informative material under "los voladeros" or "voladeros" on http://groups.google.com or http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html Exorcism can begin with such simple techniques as O5, which we incorporate under news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 The castanedian lore is vital crucial and central to all modern exorcism. Tradition properly initiated along with new currents informs the exorcist. Of course the majority will "think" (it is the devil that does the thinking) the devil does not exist. Sedna is aloof, here putting itself below the western horizon. The western horizon is the alterego, so-to-speak, of the eastern horizon, or the ascendant. We have seen Sedna is in Cetus and when Cetus is ascending with Sedna ( Sedna sets in London at 18:06 UT Jun 1st 2004. ) Virgo or Libra are descending (with rather dangerous Serpens Caput lurking by). The descendant is sometimes the enemy, precisely the known visible representation of the enemy of man (voladero, devil, vampire inorganic being): the incorporation of the personal devil, and so on. Sedna below the western horizon is playing with the bhakti's enemy, like in the case of Prahlada Maharaj (who owns an astral planet of his own, I'm informed). Sedna is aloof like God but it descends and plays with man's enemy (the personal devil dwells inside Prahlada Maharaj's father in our example), killing him in the end. The vedic example is astounding when enmeshed with castanedian lore. Truemind kills false ego. The default mind is one we use on daily basis which is not ours at all and was installed by the devil at an early age. This is alienation and death. We don't need this. All the lies of the false authorities come from the use of the wrong mind. Don't use it. Don't feed negativemotions, never. Survival and paradise is pO5sible for truemind, but hardly in ways the false mind suggests: rather tricky and deadly dangerous, indeed. Sedna falling in the 6th house means God has come to serve. Truemind will kill false ego after playing with it. This sounds optimistical indeed and it is to give you a boost. Don't wait for Sedna in 6th to fight your true enemy: your "own" (not yours at all) mind! The position means God listens to the prayer and will respond to it "as he finds befitting". The 6th house is one of the most intriguing, dealing with ritual majik. Sedna in 6th requires denial of packts to "pO5itive", as well as negative inorganic beings. We should not mingle with bad people and bad inorganics (spirits, more or less physical parallel universe beings). Yato yato yami tato nrsimhah. Saint Marc's inorganic guide is
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Nrsimhah deva of the vedic lore, the protector of astral travel ers such as Prahlada Maharaj). Inner fires burning ego remanants. Reguls as MIKAL. /a/ A fishing cat. Guru search out of the Temple. Out of the sea life crawls into the forest. Ancestral spirits lead to the wood-of-no-guru. Ancestral spirits spread the MariX before the initiate. The warp-and-woof of other life. Childbirth in the Temple. Capitalism. Sea ecology. Marine expeditions. Menkar can add up to fire hazard. Protect your stables. Take special care of your cats. Altars built to deal with fires. Vesta is especially interesting when dealing with 6th house fire service and hazard. This position can "blow fire". The fiery element can be greatly stressed with Regulus acting on the planets in connection with Sedna here. Note that we take the 6th house as being below the western horizon. That is never done in tropical/popular astrology. Be extra careful with 6th and 7th house planets, as well as 1st and 7th house placements as most astrological programs mistake the real positions, assuming the Sun rises in Due East. E.g. many of you have Neptune in 6th and not in 7th as the program shows. This is due to southern latutude and due western horizon. The same deity can appear to various saints. A lionlike angel suggested PAX TIBI MARCE EVANGELISTA MEVS to the double evangelist Saint Marc in the bogs ("biri" in venethian) where the large church of San Francesco de la Vigna stands today. Lionlike incarnations and visions clearly pertain to Regulus and Leo. All tropical calculus here is obsolete as we are working with the real skies, not some simplified equinoctial model. ? Fanatic ? One Ring. Submit all. Saruman. Social and political climber despite mean provenience? The cold snow and ice is not favorable to you. The Snow Queen attacks. A braggart thinks himself a great general. Defeat in expansion. Sedna 6th people should be modest like Prahlada Maharaj. Even when given power over the planetary system, they should take care to be extra modest in all!!!
7. Great love decision! One decides true love, as opposed to mere sexual gratification and love of money and social power. Sincere relationship and souls entwined. Super marriage! Mountain sisters? Twin souls? Check Davison charts! Dolphin intelligencies bless this marriage. Sedna's dolphins entwined are quite the opposite to the triurne Lamia of Orcus. Aloof Sedna has much love, but Orcus is a dangerous siren. Luckily for the thick skinned magus, Orcus will bite only to die from the poisonous magician's blood. One had to decide and perhaps one of the (three) lamia turns out to be his true bride under disguise. More like "kiss the right frog". There was no choice! Fate uis gentle sometimes. The innocent magus is not supposed to hide an undine. He should marry her. Human heart knows vary few faiths and faithfulness can become a problem. The undine won't tollerate breaching and will demand the death of the magus, who will degrade into an astral underwater servant in Sedna worlds unimaginable to the neophyte. Sedna is thus the punishing deity in service of the undine bride. various stories of sirens are in fact all true. One should be careful checking for latitude and horizon. When all is measured and checked out properly, there is no mistake and Sedna is _really_ in the 7th house! /b/
service of the moral magus. The most beautiful undines are actually a threat for the magus as many married one to regret it when they were unable to remain faithful. Undines punish unfaithfulness with death, justified by the very marriage contract. Sedna is an undine for all practical purposes. In the seventh house it plays like a dolphin with the magician's heart fountaining with love.
When is a planet in the 7th house? When above the horizon. Checking Sedna in teh 7th house is especially tricky. Try and get some hints learning from othe people's errors here: http://neodruid.tk /28 /extra /nu /dane.rudhyar /alan.leo The article is "7th House Switch" http://neodruid.tk /nu Sedna is otherwise in the 6th house. Your astological program does not know it. This is an old standard error of popular astrology for the masses. Many authors have their planets e.g. in the 12th when they're clearly in 1st, having the appropriate latitude and position under the eastern horizon. The ascendant is Due East, of course. A Note on Orcus below: Orcus is quite the reverse of Sedna in many respects.
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Sedna's dolphins entwined are quite the opposite to the triurne Lamia of Orcus. Aloof Sedna has much love, but Orcus is a dangerous siren. Luckily for the thick skinned magus, Orcus will bite only to die from the poisonous magician's blood. The 7th house is the opponent, not just alter-ego, but also the destroyer of all we know as self. Thus satanists can have this position, for good or bad. Assuming the enlightment bringer is a destructive deity as concerns the false ego, we have grounds for happy endings; however this topic is too subtle and dangerous for the purpO5e of a general delineation. Jungian astrologers will delight at the Shadow, with it's infinite gothic charm. To be attracted towards one's shade; Mr. Hyde, seems unavoidably natural, yet risky and out of any field of sound advice. The dark man climbs the spyral staircase to Heaven. Or perhaps descends? Spiral are the fates of gods = planets, and semidemi gods = centaurs, titans = cubewanos, plutinos...+++ 8. ESP. Visions after mindbody crisis. Several deaths. Survived several clynical deaths. Mason? This is a b/w self employed, self driven, tottaly independent person. Passion, sincerity, infinity is just a snap of the finger. This person knows no limits, she cannot know limits! There are none! "Too far, too soon; you saw the whole of the Moon" --- Waterboys "This is the Sea". Returned from the other world. The Advent of Panurage by Gentle Giant. In and out this world. Confused by Nagual. Weltschmertz. Time pyramind. Errection. Sinking. Sea bottom. The flood. The overflooding well. Overcoming timespace. Clairvoyant. The placement of the physical heart might be altered. Check again for Venus (and Pholus, if near!) and investigate into both physical and spiritual heart placement. The physical heart may be towards the spiritual one, towards the middle of the chest, size possibly altered (pelato - like). 9. This is the position of the high initiate. Following one's clear purpose and mission. Opening new worlds beyond this one. Expanding the Tree of Life. Venturing beyond the Looking Glass. Alice in Wonderland. La diablera. He who knows and ventures beyond the Pass. "Socializing" in enochian kingdoms. Getting to know the king of the angels. Majikal reformation. Post thelemitic XAoC. Skrying in astral. Tibet. Himalaya. The Great White Lodge. Channeling. Enochiana. A high or important position in masonry. Poetical attitude. Copious writer, but rather poet. Occult writer. A new William Shakespeare. Attaining to the highest secrets of sexual majik, alchemy and tantra. Perhaps holy marriage, but this is the active dreamer position. (The 12th house ismore like the stalker's position.) Sedna 9th incarnations have tasks on planetary level, especially as concerns the occult, majik & religion. Reforming the basic program. Hacking into the core. NEMO as Magister Templi. One loses his little ego or voladero mind, becoming N00ne, like the 0 of the Tarot. Look for T-squares here! Pylenor is always involved and perhaps 2002 TX300. Poets and magicians will have this position with prominent Pylenor, the centaur of the immortals. The new law. More freedom. Tantric yoga (left tantra?). Travel on occult pursuit. Try and couple this analysis with Pylenor. Pylenor attacks the social being, the better to prepare the worshiper for the darshan. The vision of the holy guardian angel is then possible, but the social being must die.
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Pylenor dwells under the bridges unwarping truemind, killing the social being. Avatar. Descending from the skies. Heavenly objects bringing fresh genetical code to a planet. Panspermia. ||: dissemination. A traveler arrives from far away. Alien visitors. Sitchinian cosmogonies. This position calls Nibiru to our mind. This position has glimpsed into Other Worlds. Sedna 9th people go far far! Who can catch the last glimpse of their Glory? The owner of this position understands many things that don't catch the eye of the "normal" person. Knowing too much "for his good". Suffering his mandate. Easy climber. Climbs high. Advance. Stairway to Heaven. The neophyte easily progresses to Zelator and beyond to Ipsissimus. Many surmontable obstacles, especially designed by the mediocre. Hated and feared by the mob. Gossipful center of evil attention and mediocre curiO5ity. Wherever I _choose_ to lay my hat is my home. The supper of the Lamb. An archangel. Sacred and prophane, perhaps even a bit morbid love. Love, sex and mythology. (Reddish) mask for the face and head. Watcher of the skies. Intuiting death. Death conscious. Human, full of strange empathy. World encompassing. making no show of his mission. Rain on the windshield. The Eagle communicates to the shaman. hanging like a semigod from the ceiling. Tired of airplane trips. Seeing more realities behind this veil. Intuiting parallel worlds. Harlequin. Arlekin Batocio. Standing on a sanatory wall. Standing on the ledge of the window. Lover's leap. Morbid sense of humor? Beloved but "broken"? This is the chosen one, for good or bad. The position presses into contact with the holy guardian angel. Infinity presses or God (the Eagle) sends commands. At home elsewhere. Anyway. Easy come easy go. Head in the clouds. Aloof. Towering. Angelic. Pixied or elvish. Eloquent. A copious writer. Founding new monasteries. Far reaching. Saying much in one word. Inventing modes of communication. Telecasting. The one many dream of. Second attention = active dreaming. Trancelike attitude. Performing better than anyone else. aiming at the best, farthest. Far away from the mediocre and daily routine. Excellent for poets? In fact the owner must be one. Poetry is majik. Majik is poetry. Waking up in one's dreams. Born artist. Exceptional guru having an exceptional guru. Versatile. Resourceful. Multi lingual. Eloquent. Everything immediately pO5sible. Opener. Alienated. Social persona dying. Initiation. Hermitage. Alien to it's, his or her own surrounding. Enjoying gypsy like outskirts. Snooping everywhere. The death of his social being enables detachment. Choose a sullen place and stay there allone. All1 for weeks, months. Then Pylenor acts! Pylenor tears down the social being, unwarps TrueMing. In the end one is equally (dis)interessed in social and lonely pursuit. What is loneliness? How does it "feel" to be "one without another"? (Adwaita vedantao). The desert. One is one's own cOMpany. Deserted by all, but not feeling too bad. Excellent for art and travel! Roundabout. Spring equinox. Compare with Pegasus constellation. As concerns travel, it is obvious Sedna will bring the acolyte across to Avalon, as not just long journeys, but actually journeys out of this world pertain to Sedna. Sedna's orbit alone dictates long distance communication as Sedna features in horoscopes of meditators, shamans and people who reside a long time from home. Sedna will determine space mission captains in the future. Travel expands to second attention or waking up in one's dreams. Still better, Sedna at in 9th liberates the meditator! Sedna is not perturbed (much) by the planets, and is almost untouched by sunrays, the better for the meditator to escape the ego-fires of the heart-Sun. The Sun is malefic in vedic tought, as the Moon is truemind. The centripetal pull of the Sun and it's ego
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wishes symbolize (if not incorporate!) ego will (me, me!), but Sedna is (almost = savikalpa samadhi) liberated from the major gravitational basin, it is part of our system but fairly with an "independent" (?) orbit. It is thus symbolized by the meditator in savikalpa samadhi. Since Sedna is fairly removed from most interplanetary disputes, it must be consulted as a fair judge over the petty gravitational matters closer to us. Astrologers either consult the centaurs, which are perturbed by various planets, or the aloof world of the transneptunians. But how can Orcus judge? Is Quaoar fair? Nessus is too disturbed to do any judgement, and Asbolus, albeit magus, has not as yet seen it all. The centaurs lack perspective as they're thrown here and there by influences and planetary gravitation. The centaurs are our close dark archangels, but they are unable to encompass and judge creation. Only Sedna is capable of impartial empathy towards the centaurs and transneptunian cubewano, plutino (and SDO) objects. Sedna in 11th 10th and 9th house and especially at the meridian is a fair judge judging nothing, an aloof observer, the witness. Om sakshi aham. I am the Witness separate of all. The prophet. Messiah. Carrier of a New Law. Astronomical, as well as astrolohical reformations. A poet writing about astrology. This pO5ition cannot be judged by the mediocre. 10. Annunaki HQ (meaning usually the mothership mission control room piloting assembly). Headquarters of EN.LIL Same as Orcus on the eastern horizon. ( Where Sedna in Cetus and Orcus in Hydra combine to the picture of a distant mothership and "watermonster" fleet Tiamut = cosmical submarines ). Chinese dragons, see: http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html Crocodile suits of the Annunaki. IAIII BT c/o pilot. Did you know Sedna pilots the crocodile of your local Green Man? See under "Sedna in the 10th House" as you become neoastrologer. Sedna for Neodruids = A Complete Sedna Delineation for O5 PCS VirtPet Initiates http://neodruid.tk /pcs Midsummer dreamwork. Crocodile as VirtPet of the Green Man. Walking on velvet green. NEMO as Green Man. Cosmical submarine. Solstice bells. Visions of angels. Neodruids. The boat of million year. Anunnaki. Flood. ENKI as green man. Far orbiting mothership.
Holy marriage. Immensely influential artist. Detailed account of astral adventurities. Dreams come alive. This Sedna position can mean marriage when Sedna transits into the lovers 11th house. The 11th house is the house of true love, while the 5th spells lust. Love forever. Noble goals. Empathy towards the suffering. High aims. Materialistically disinteressed. Truemind! Aiming at the Highest. Impartial. Rather disinteressed. Detached. Eccentric. Mad with art. SeldOM involved in material activities. Without lust of result. Dharmic management? Grail. ( Crater ? ). Flying? One year of good business? Friends forever? Spirit helpers. Aiming at immortality after meeting a spiritual ancestor and guide. Persist in poverty. Space mission captain. Menkar is not traditionally good at all at the meridian and Sedna has been coupled with Alpha Ceti for a while. Speaking of coupling, Venus rises with Sedna at his time. Getting rich soon. Venus at the meridian with the 10th house Sedna position seems an especially blessed cOMbination.
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Artistic discrepances. Perhaps an artist who is too noble to be understood? An artist who ... thinks she cannot paint? Too shy an artist! Perhaps helping the planet is more important than exibiting one's works. Not much self importance here! An artist fully depending on his she-partner. An artist hiding her works? Natural art, clay, ... I will add many comments here after an interview or two within my muse. This is Prince Charles position. Amazingly, Dali's Sedna confirms to the description, sharing this house with Orcus. Partnership seems important for climbing the Stairway to Heaven. Holy Marriage is implied. Hierogamos is something very few attempted and succeeded in, but medieval Venice is e.g. full of "patera"s, reliefs showing more or less pervert alchemical allusions to Hiero Gamos. http://neodruid.tk /venexia /unihipili Dali was not bashful, or was he? Sedna is about extremes and yes we have to check for extreme unbashfulness here as well as it seems:) 11. Personal New Jerusalem. The Supper of the Lamb. The fixation of second attention. Dreamy state. Daydreaming. Truemind. Awake in dreams, dreaming awake; thus visions and contact with the inorganic. The inorganic will often "adopt" the form of popular (e.g. christian) saints and deities. Nevertheless, this position is one of the genuine visionary (always doublecheck). Visions of angels. Intending the other world of one's choice, thus creatign a whole new world or recreating i(nten)t. Musical ascension. Ethereal and astral "storms". Apocalyptic scenary by the sea. Coastliners. The lack of faith triumphs in faith. The NEMO or Zero formula. Master of n0thing. No more tears to weep. Absolute clearing and yet one remains the same to the bitter end. AVE MARIA STELLA MARIS. Revelation. An angel standing in the sun. Sedna is about things far that do not come near too often. It's orbit thus project darshans. What are gods but planets? I am being nasty sitchinian at this point. I feel his Nibiru IHVH conjuncture has much sane sensei in it. In the vedas, some weird fellows would evoke (adwaita vedanta invokes) deities adwaiting for them aeons (a long time). Why so? The orbit of the spiritual planet carrier requires time. This is of course a fascinating denikenian field. What do the authorities have to say? The authorities fall apart at this time. Perhaps checking with Vivekananda lodge sometimes. Real jyotish should help us study the spiritual planets. Could we form an alliance with vedic astrology? Should we? We should. Seeing ahead , alliance with deity. Whatever inorganic can hook to the picture and fancy of a deity so extra majikal expertise is needed in cases of wanna"official" visions. The inorganic is whatever being, scout, "demon", "angel", or elementary being that comes our way. There are scores of them, all dangerous, thus wear your O5 hat and disbelieve in topknot cakras. The deity protects the worshiper. This house is called PROTECTORES as popular fancy has wiged angels being _good_ beings. Angels ( = would be allies) are rough to wrestle with. And they lived happily everafter! (The 11th house comes after the 10th).
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Love(rs) forever. Strong majikal protector!!! Several lineage of gurus and majikians protect the natus. A magus coming from afar helps!!! Covenant, thus love forever with the deity. This is not so romantic or ideal in "real life", but again, why not? Inspired, visionary, possibly darshan, the avatar comes to meet (descends) the natus. Wartime. Ra-Hoor-Khuit? The evil fixation of second attention. Visiting the feudal lord. Bribing the nagual? Depending on the feudal lord. Presenting astrological or astronomical calculus to the feudal lord. Presenting a vision = darshan = communion with deity to the official (Jupiter = guru) ecclesia. Publishing books on astronomy and astrology as well. This must be excellent with Sun Saturn Uranus. Calculating a horoscope for the feudal lord. This position may be one of new discoveries, theories, bold new cosmogonical concepts. Perhaps the owner is rich (second house from tenth = profit from enterprise). Spiritually rich. The seer? Predicting for the feudal lord. Predicting feudal lord's mishap or lack of eficacious protection. Protecting the feudal lord, overlord. The protector? Healing the plague? Rich enterprise, especially with 2002 AW197. Taking care of the planet? Political astrology? Majikal protection? Perhaps hebrew talismans. The position might have to do with hebrew vibrations, temples and written charms. Pylenor 1994 TA is the immortality centaur. Watch out for it's angular placement and aspect when checking for darshan. The immortal manifests in Pylenor. See http://groups.google.com or http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html for Pylenor (Juan Antonio Revilla proposed this name). Since angels come under the 11th house, this is the special position for a darshan. The visible manifestation of the deity. Angels adopt various non-enochain forms, as well. One feels his ascendental guardian angel, which brings us to the main topic astrology is about: angels (heads). What is one's true ascendant and it's angel? This is not a matter of simple calculation or evocation but can and _must_ be done if one is to be an astrologer. I personally know one single non-astrologer that evokes this point. Written hebrew spells summon angels. Much chaos can be brought about by unexpert hands handling a hebrew incantation. This may be the position of Solomon. 12. Spring Sedna rising with the Sun. For centaurean astrologers: yes, the circle with the dot hidding in the minor planetary forest between perhaps such _familiar_ stuff as 2002 UX25 and Thereus is the Sun, the malefic ego-center and Lord of this World, the usurper. Our Lord Neptune may be hidden between 1999 OX3, Damocles and a dozen illustrative objects. It is well known from Enuma Elish who are the bad guys of this system so when you see MU.MU (they nicked it Mercury) conjunct Sedna, frown with knowledge. For the rest we hope Sedna rising catches some gothic atmosphere as we're awaiting reports from people waking up in locations like Tintagel, ideally after a nighttime of obscure rituals. http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html (hope it's still there) It is obscure why should the house of the rising sun be hated by the very astrologers who "believe" in let the sunshine in. This house with Sedna may be more like the Mists of Avalon, jokes apart; e.g. the entrance in the abode of nibiric Gods for(a good piece of inorganic)ever. Crowology. Crows spelling out omens. "Saturnian" position. Special birds sent by God like in the case of Eliah (cheese raven) or even ritualchemical nightbird Ming Yee |:|:::
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Mist. Fog. Gothic. Good omens. Nevertheless good position for marriage (possibly eceptional cases like the coupling of majikal beings). Special omens. The dark night of the soul is over. Bad issue? Hidden victory? Quickly out of the Temple? The Temple of the Fast Redemption. O5. Chief druid. The Pope in Sicily. The kayak. Niagara Falls. Transilvania Waterfalls. This is a very amusing position. The 12th house is in fact one of the rising Sun and the Sun rises with Sedna in spring. Portraying Eva archetype. Bewitched by dangerous charms. Seductive position? Secret dream of every man. The bad girl is not very bad when mine or in my dreams. Women capturing and fixing man's attention to their low cakras. Perhaps lingerie like stockings, suspenders, most probably large hips, body shape a-la-Sophia Loren (needs other Venusian - Lunar aspects to confirm to?). The witch, her eyes. Feigning The 1st, 6th and 12th houses are most certainly connected to marine ecology, the sea and a sort of initiation. See also Varuna delineation. The first house is like the song of the old sea, the 6th enmeshes sea's secrets and is dangerous. Fire at the sea bottom? The 12th house is like the release from the sea, shooting up and forth, killing the raven of time. Sedna strangely wards off large animals, albeit near by Menkar attracts them. No large or wild animal will harm, but hazard seems imminent and rather obvious. Risky circuswork pays off. Crows pertain to Puck as Oberon should not be distant. Puck and Oberon and gods who haunt this place. Raven was the _silent_ priestess (Binah :|||::) of Avalon. We expect some dignified silent compO5ture along with bad omens or at least clarvoyancy here. Portraying Eva (ChVH) archetype. Enticing sad libido. The dangerous woman. Bewitched by her charms. Animals are often demons. Adam gave the names to all of the demons. Unihipili is the grasshopper of kahuuna lore. True Mind is a little thing, generally dominated by the default mind. Cities are the same, just skycreepers nowdays, minds are more or less default. Defaulters go around consuming default. Only True Mind saves from the flood. The Unihipili article is pasted below. Truemind emerges: http://neodruid.tk /venexia/unihipili Trueming and moksha are the same. Liberation from Sednaquas. Be extra careful with 6th and 7th house planets, as well as 1st and 7th house placements as most astrological programs mistake the real positions, assuming the Sun rises in Due East. E.g. many of you have Neptune in 6th and not in 7th as the program shows. This is due to southern latutude and due western horizon. We don't suppose the house Franz Bardon has his own Sedna in, as we introduce it here for the sake of record. Sedna is overaspected in the magus incarnation horoscope but it is most remarkably the Saturn Mars midpoint as it seems responsable for the magician's captivity. Namely the nazi and a black lodge succeeded in torturing the magus. This is a complex subject and horoscope I must leave to more expert times. http://neodruid.tk /sedna frabato Frabato's supposed troubles with the undines and watery element had a happy ending after dire danger. The depths are there to teach. In direction: An incarnated nymph. One way communication. Secret love affair which is the same love affair within the same sincere and open love affair. Discovering one's 12th house as the treasurehouse of images (Thesairon Eidolon). Going to the extreme of the extremes. Kayak man. Entering one's deep programs. Becoming one with the boot sector. Not facing oneself any more but being oneself. Discovering oneself, one's own true passions. Hodden places. Marshes, ebbs. Lurid marshes> flies> dry sick ground> Then the sea. Water inundating. The song of the sea. Sea inside sea outside. Communion with the sea. Tibet. Himalaya. Dalai Lama as the Sea of Consciousness. Modest tourism. Dirty beaches. The morbid fashion of the coast liners. Sounds lead to second attention. Sea shells. There is no Shell Beach. Unihipili. The reemergence of Truemind. Aquas. In direction can mean also Sedna transiting the 12th house or Sedna in teh 12th solar return house.
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http://neodruid.tk /venexia/unihipili (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /sedna O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://neodruid.tk One should not be misled by non-astrologers who "think" Sedna is in Taurus. It will slip in Taurus from Cetus in a couple of years (up coming article, coupling Venus' approach to Hydra and Orcus). Sedna 531.657634 0.857434 11.9304 144.4929 311.8271 53200.5 357.8815 1.7 2003VB12 531.657634 0.857434 11.9304 144.4929 311.8271 53200.5 357.8815 1.7 Sedna is of course delineated in Cetus. It happens that Orcus is in Hydra, Quaoar in Ophiucus and so on. All this constellations are not only ascendantal, they're also zodiacal. http://neodruid.tk /28 Sedna is _not_ in Taurus yet. In a couple of years, Orcus becomes actual, with Venus approaching Hydra (Venus is heading towards Orion this summer; see "Venus in Orion" article http://neodruid.tk /extra) while Sedna changes constelation. Sedna's constellation change seems remarkable, since it does not happen too often. Pluto most often than not skips Pisces and Aries, heading through Cetus towards Taurus; Sedna dives in much the same fashion, generally speaking. This will puzzle the tropical astrologer, but then the days of tropicana were counted at least ten years ago. "Jungian" 5-asteroid astrologers are lO5t in some newagish hell. We stand at a new frontier called Oort's cloud and those who are purpO5ely unaware of 1992 QB1 are hopelessly 10 years late. Meaning Interenet will swarm with "delineations" made by people who have decent ideas about Chiron and deal with Vesta and a couple of main-belt asteroids (major asteroid Eunomia excluded). People not familiar with centaurs, SDO, cubewano and plutino objects will be puzzled at Sedna. Ready ideas won't help much. They should delineate Orcus, since it "has no name". Yahooing for deep mythological cut'n'paste delineations won't make an astrologer. Sedna can be delineated by people who delineated 1992 QB1. They will know it's nature and will apply a long tested _method_, testing the orbit, perihelion, applying mythology with taste where required. This kind of folk has no problem delineating an "unnamed" object. Varuna, Ixion and Quaoar were all un-named when delineated. Sedna is not named yet. It is still 2003 VB12. Abouts: 28 Constellation Zodiac http://neodruid.tk /nu http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac Updates: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus Our Newsgroup: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 Updates: http://neodruid.tk /ng.html Extrazodiacal Astrology http://neodruid.tk /extra Updates: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus ( Cetus bis ) Why Cetus? Because it is a _zodiacal_ constellation. Misconceptions have the zodiac a 12 constellation ring, when it is a 13 (Ophiucus!) constellation ring as concerns the Sun. The Sun journeys through 13 constellations. But the Moon, Pluto and the planets journey through 28 constellations! This is largely out of reach for the practical (?) 12zodiacal (often "tropical") astrologer. This astrologer is _not_ concerned with the way things are (or were), he deals with inexisting positions, impossible conjunctions, immersed in a virtual simplified equinoctial model of the constellations, good enough for some old egyptian primary school perhaps, but not good at all for serious research. No wonder astronomers keep laughing at tropical astrologers: they deserve it in many ways. So do the siderealists and the vedic. All of them refuse to take a simple glance at the sky. Cruithne in Auriga is probably NOT a zodiacal position. A very tiny stripe of Auriga _is_ zodiacal. Therefore not all of the Auriga constellation _is_ zodiacal. This is largely unknown among astronomers. In fact after my own amateuresearch it is by sheer chance I've found a couple of astronomers who worked on this problem back in 1977. perhaps on this planet there's more than 5 astronomers aware of the 28 zodiac, but in my modest life I have no feedback that it is so. Please feedback! If we have no zodiac, we have no astrology! When you hear about 2002 AA29 in Lepus or NEAT in Eridanus, you may doubt zodiacality, but Moon in Auriga is in fact a zodiacal position. The zodiacal is or should be defined as the strip the planets travel through, right!? Studying the strip is our business. Now when Saturn is in Orion it means Orion is a zodical position, since a planet like Saturn (and other planets, too) resides in this most enchanted constellation. Centaurean astrologers AA29 and the centaurs positions like the Pi Xi stars (Xi2 > WTC > have the opportunity to study 2002 in the most wonderful and meaning (ANKh) stars of Orion; the malefic Usama). Bellatrix, Betelguese, but
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also Al Nitak, Al Nilam (O5IRIS penis!). Mintaka is Dalai Lama's ascendant, thus Orion is not only a zodiacal constellation (time and aeon permitting!), but also an ascendental constellation. Bellatrix lovers will ... love it! Bellatrix is of course not any near Gemini, what do you think? http://neodruid.tk /nu /O5IRIS More Abouts: Orion and Tapir http://neodruid.tk /nu Enuma Elish, Tiamat, Nibiru http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html Valentine Centaur http://neodruid.tk /centaurs /2004CJ39 Quaoar http://neodruid.tk /quaoar /quaoar.html Transneptunians http://neodruid.tk /2003 /tno All Objects on http://groups.google.com Archives http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck Ixion & the Centaurs intro http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html = Sedna = http://neodruid.tk Sedna is our first big Oort cloud object. It is a cold distant world. Where is Sedna? It is coupled with Venus and Menkar at this time. This objects can be observed e.g. in the evening in Europe. The "planet" or Oort cloud object is in Cetus constellaton. (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /sedna = Sedna delineation = This particullary happy delineation is completely free of any apocalyptic omen that was glooming our astrology in the case of Orcus and Quaoar http://neodruid.tk /28 /c/ At the time I am checking this, Sedna is still officially a centaur object. Source: Harvard MPC. I leave my old notes here for historical reasonsand amusements. After all, it _is_ the history of astrology! Since the article was written before any NASA communication, the only way I can call 2003 VB12 is an Oort Cloud Object (OCO). Thus the object is not a "supercentaur" and the classes of objects have increased by one. We have the first real Oort Cloud Object. Orcus is a KBO, a plutino. The hacking went like this: Chad's site contained a /sedna directory, but the objet's name wa wrong: 2003 VB16. We recall there was a change in designation (I remember a mail exchange with Jon Giorgini of NASA JPL, roughly November 2003). Now NASA JPL did not have 2003 VB12 on it's server (the better to warm up expectation?), and I guess it was unavailable from Harvard. But we had the object in our data bases and were able to delineate before the announcment! The larger public had no idea of the nature of the object but we did remember something we used to call (?) supercentaur. Obscure are the paths of astrology. I am writing this very obscure notes having in mind the youngsters that are liable to read this. Hacking on daily basis won't be anything but joy for the new generation! When I resimulated 2003 VB12 Sedna I saw it was in Cetus. Excellent. So it is of course not in any "decent" constellation. We have everything to say about Cetus, you and I, don't we? And, what a lucky coincidence! Sedna itself is the Whale Queen! They will surely proclaim it (and I agree!) eco-terrorist! The night before the announcement apparently on impulse and for no special reasons I insisted myself into listening to dolphin music. It is thus that intuition puffs starpowder our way. One can actually _talk_ to a "planet" instead of just checking charts and houses. I did that e.g. with mysterious Vestalis of the Lutz Rathke planets (see darkplanets). Briefly checking with MPC on Mar 18th I see they still have 2003 VB12 under "centaurs". There's much hype and politic$ in all this Sedna mess. 2003 VB12 has been known to us since November 2003, whatever it's designation, object class or purpose. There was no need to hide it on purpO5e before some "official" presentation. I noticed the NASA JPL HORIZONS Sun Sparc slowed down since the D-day for Sedna:) We are familiar with the object as it's designation changed from 2003 VB16 to 2003 VB12. It was discovered last year and variousely scheduled as "centaur". The somewhat obscure designation was made still more obscure by quoting 2003 VB16 on the official discovery page (more or less a "hidden" one). While this article is the product of a "hack" before any NASA communication, it nevertheless confirms to several points in the nature of the object, known or unknown. The delineation is not mythology-based at this time. Sedna is in Cetus in most horoscopes. This means you can have Sedna rising along with your Cetus ascendant. Cetus rising in the East is a daily matter. The Moon is in Cetus once or twice a month and the maps show other objects of interest in this
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zodiacal constelation http://neodruid.tk /extra/cetus Astronomers have determined Cetus is a zodiacal constellation around 1977. The true astronomical zodiac thus consists of 28 constellations http://neodruid.tk /28 some of them ascendental meaning they can rise in due east at this time and age. When the Moon or Venus are in Cetus, they are delineated in that constellation. Pluto can be in Cetus but it cannot be in Aries or Pisces. The simscans show Pluto and the lanets in Cetus. http://neodruid.tk /extra /cetus Cetus http://neodruid.tk /extra /cetus is a zodiacal constellation since the planets, Pluto and the Moon, as well as a variety of minor planets swarm this large and legendary constellation. The Moon is in Cetus once or twice a month and will visit this part of the sky in the summer months, too, e.g. around Aug 4th 2004. The seventh house is the region above the western horizon. Horizons can play tricks in Inuit regions, where the Sun is said to rise in the West at times. /d/ We use astronomy to determine the horizon. Sedna above the western horizon warrants a sincere relationship. The object is full of dolphin energy. Several spiritual groups use to initiate their members into astral dolphin realms, as one can meet his dolphin guide. This guides are very faithful. The houses full of dolphin energy are the 7th and 2nd houses. The 2nd house is below the horizon (which is seldom true in so-called popular tropical calculus). http://neodruid.tk /28 A particulary painful situation is marked with Sedna in Nadir position (due North). AVE MARIA STELLA MARIS. The bitter sea of discreation treats our ships like nutshells. Qlippoth are disposed of as the salt doll becomes One with the Ocean through pain and grief. Pierced is the Heart of our Queen. This is Sedna in grief. The position is not very good for lovers and marriage as one of the two might resort to black voodoo, possibly... (Note this is a provisory delineation only!). The 4th house is one of grief, suggesting repentance. Perhaps family affairs smeck of bitter Binah energy as Sedna sinks our hopes as if aided by her shaman raven husband. This is clearly a classical Saturn in Libra vibration. The stars are spirits, rather than mere gas. The transneptunian KBO (cubewano, plutino) are more than mere icy rocks. Inorganic beings initiate the magus, as they are often classified as stars. The errors of tropical astrology are many. See Alan Leo under http://neodruid.tk /nu for an initiation into horizons proper. Notes: Students study Orcus in Crater. http://neodruid.tk /28 /Orcus Fish-nets extend to Internet. Caught in the midst of the Net. Sacrificed. Short lived? Tranquil, blessed, good salary. Immune to any attack. Those are some of the + and - keys to be classified. 2003 VB12 "Sedna" ( this is an "early" note, the ephemeris should be fairly reliable by the time one reads this )
If we don't want to be _too_ precise, Crowley's Sedna is "tropically" at 2 Aries of longitude. We can "integrate" precisely, for Lord Krsna and Buddha, too; but at this stage we are happy with an "estimation". 1875-Jun-06 00:00 1875-Sep-25 00:00 2.6384036 2.3307673 Crowley The ephemeris were produced online by Jon Giorgini's HORIZONS integrator, NASA JPL, Pasadena, CA. /a/ http://neodruid.tk /nu /5gram MIKAL as Regulus. /b/ Scores of modern astrologers and myriads of clients enjoy the wrong position here. Many have e.g. Neptune in 6th when it should be in the 7th house. Check Alan and Dane http://neodruid.tk /nu for clues. It might well be your case. The same applies for the 12th and 1st house switch and (work in progress) seemingly even for the 5th/8th house switch in some odd cases (?). /c/ Varuna wasn't a happy delineation either. Ixion bore some joy, majik, perhaps even fair sex, achemy and variety. Varuna smecked evil gods and Quaoar pushed us into war. Darkplanet Lamia conjunct Pluto prepared the jihad stage. Now the jihad scenary is strangely quiet and no atomic bombs were set in metropolic undergrounds. This puts us off guard, which is always good for someone. /d/ Quoting Curly Mae from Alkavik. Ne pivo:( Looking for an OMEN is like looking for NEMO. NEMO is the Magister -7.6638753 -7.7446282
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Templi, the One who has no other, one that has lost his self. Mind less and sharkproof, one expands in infinite oceans without shores. The object can be directed. Here an example of a transit. Sedna squaring natal Uranus in transit and the owner of the position gets involved in an airplane (Uranus) war. Let it be noted that the airplanes flew one meter above the surface of the sea, thus invisible to radars. The conflict ended almost without casualities. Abouts: Enuma Elish, Tiamat, Nibiru http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac Constellation Zodiac http://neodruid.tk /nu Valentine Centaur http://neodruid.tk /centaurs /2004CJ39 Quaoar http://neodruid.tk /quaoar /quaoar.html Transneptunians http://neodruid.tk /2003 /tno All Objects on http://groups.google.com Archives http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck Ixion & the Centaurs intro http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html Our Newsgroup: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 Updates: http://neodruid.tk /ng.html Updates: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus Extrazodiacal Astrology http://neodruid.tk /extra /* Sedna, astrology, delineation, horoscope, Orcus, Quaoar, neodruid.tk , Oort Cloud, 2003 VB12, new planet?, Oort cloud object, Pluto+not+planet, astrological, 12 houses, ephemeris, NASA JPL, alt.astrology.moderated */ The Orcus delineation is preceded by an initiation in IAU Compatible astrology
"In roaming omniverse one is at home." IAU Compatible Astrology http://neodruid.tk /sedna /28 Introducing Different Viewing Angles for your Chart (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. Oberon and Titania conjunct May 1st 2004. This might be one of the astrological joys for fairy lovers and druids, but is also an astrological event of great ineterest to babies and mothers as well; namely Titania and Oberon marry when conjunct. The conjunction is as seen from Uranus, of course, in your uranocentrical horoscope layout you might be familiar with, since you're an astrologer (e.g. using Uranus arc directions). Mothers will be pleased to know the conjunction is fairly favorable to babies and birthgiving in general. Astrologers will check the uranian chart for Alpha Pegasi. This short introduction does not allow for all the magick Pegasus has to offer as ascendental constellation. 2002 TX300 giant transneptunian object is of course "near the conjunction", astrologically speaking. Uranian skies often hold only two objects of interest above the horizon. we will touch upon various planetary ascendants later on in this article (the Venusian Ascendant has been conveniently picked to attract attention to most interesting ways to scan omniverse, i.e. your true natal skies). Holy druidic marriages are possible especially for the advanced evocational magus skrying to the Uranus sphere in astral. One such was Prahlada Maharaj as mentioned in the Orcus and Sedna delienations on site http://neodruid.tk /sedna /Orcus Ever seen an animated secondary extrazodiacal direction of Pluto in Coma Berenices? You will. While nature is still young we plant our seed, particullary when Venus and Moon :|:::| cooperate (:|: = Moon, ::| Venus direction or transit). A lenghty delineation is skryer in astral or vedic allude to astral planets knowledge of possible for the advanced yogi. Vedic astrology can improving the astrologers omniverself.
Such expansions of astrological knowledge foster our better understanding of the tottality of our spaceborne Self. Suprarchangel Mysefial so-to-speak, one in command of the cardinal archangel-stars. While the Sun is in Orion for Quaorians (we know of inorganic inhabitants all over the system as they are documented in astrological literature, no, not the amusing booklets that pass as such), it might (and as matter of fact, it _is_) in Corvus
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for the inorganic inhabitants (if such are reported to exist) of 2002 TX300. Corvus can easily be linked to Puck and so on as one progresses along the astrological - mythological majikal path. To have a (monor) planet or moon in Corvus is quite regular, so the constellation must have been studied. Corvus is said to be one of the Tiamat (Hydra) demons (ministers). /2/ About Astronomical Software at Large It comes natural to check for star positions with the use of astronomical software. The same software will show you your real ascendant in what we call due east, the eastern skies (mine is Monoceros), as well as local Moon, centaurs, plutinos, comets, cubewanos, SDO, Aten and other groups of objects. Disclaimer: This article has really nothing to do with vedic, sidereal, jyotish or tropical astrology. It does have to do with the way ancients would use a computer. Virtual gaze into a maze.
Astronomical software and star gazing helps understanding the material and energies astrology works with, spirits including. Cosmocentrical astrology picks a viewpoint that suits the analysis. We are astromapping omniverse. The conclusion and research is on you. We are aware it is already hard to understand a natal chart. It needs seconds, often minutes to determine the client's 1st marriage year. Astrological software at large largely distorts the real solar system and it's relationship to the starry background. People are make amazing errors especially in the field of conjunction. A considerable amount of error is due to the misunderstanding of the position of the planets. No astrologer to my knowledge except astronomers and rare centaurean astrologers will even know the true natal constellation his Sun was in. Moon miscalculations are pardoned since it is vary hard to calculate this object, especially for the location and elevation one is born at. Ascendants _change_ with precession. This is largely misunderstood. One cannot possibly have Aries ascending at this time, but there were times when Crater and aries did ascend in due east. One will of east. houses. know it, object is argue we use the ecliptic path instead This misplaces the planets as concerns You might have Neptune in 7th and not or worse. The precise latitude of the to be taken into account and much more beyond my computing skills.
Omniverse should be observed 4D at least, or 3D or using a good 2D simulation. Astrologers had a spirit-guide instead, but we have software, also produced by spirit-guides, like e.g. "delphinian" guides who helped me write Sedna's delineation. http://neodruid.tk /sedna such guides can be evoked by astologers. My own guide for Sedna seas was Silver Belt. sometimes that kind of intelligence can even phone you! Or send an SMS +385911081084 What is new after the introduction of the IAU compatible 28 constellation zodiac? We shifted view to see yur horoscope better. In fact we are having Earth or Oberon in your chart, objects previously undelineated and improbable to find in one's chart. Well we really have fun researching and delineating impossible objects and decided to have them all in your chart. Thus we are moving into a 3D astrology, an idea that astrologer and programmer Ed Falis of alt.astrology.moderated had in mind long ago. The horoscope becomes sightseeing! How much have we advanced! We need seconds to determine marriage and that without any tools, imagine using pen and paper! Amazing. Pen and paper. I can actually write down records, all the love of one's life. The primary
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directions. Calculate better... Spectrum ZX. Jayne. So much possibilities. Astronomical simulation. The final tool of modern astrology. Input cubewanos. Export animation. Yes, horoscopes are animated!
When your Mercury enters Sextans by secondary direction it is of course animated in that constellation. we need no special software for that since astrologers always made use of astronomical software in teh first place. It comes natural to check for star positions with astronomical software. We animate sightseeing. as everybody is familiar with secondary rogressions, we animate them in real IAU constellations, so you can check for events when that Moon enters cetus, or Mercury retrogrades into Sextans, or Venus enters Hydra. The astrologer familiar with Moon in Auriga will predict accordingly. No more need to use fiction = a set of inexisting "zodiacal signs", any more. The horoscopian industry feeds on false horizons. They will never allow for any article of this degree to be published. They will rather close the site. Your life means nothing to them as they pump out unsensical mass desinformation. Checking for the ascendant I have Orion rising with every familiar star like the Pi stars, the Ank of O5IRIS. This is what we call the ascendant as ever something rising in the east. And east means east. So we don't miscalculate our own natal positions like astrologers used to /1/ There is no dark side of the Moon any more? Let us say we'll snoop around every object to check it out. Isn't it what you would do within your neighborhood ??? If your Earth is square, you think Spica Virginis is in Libra. Square deal. Programs lie to suit misleading ideas. Yes, they lied! Astrologers having no idea of their own ascendant or planetary positions filled your shelves and are still filling them at large. No wonder astronomers shun astrologers! But no more. This time we are compatible. Is there a special reason to observe a city from one area only? Big Ben standpoint? Thames fish point? Zeppelin standpoint? Soho dog standpoint? Paris cannot be seen from one point only. In roaming omniverse one is at home. To observe home one quits home. Yes, we shall have planet earth and Cruithne, 2002 AA29 and our primary Moon (Xingu) in our charts. We had them before, only we perhaps did not know. We will not crush geocentrical topocentrical and nonsensical astrology. You will! It is amazing that people using an unexistant 12 sign zodiac think themselves astrologers! Such folks have no idea of their own Sun position but presume to guide others. Their horoscopes are blinders. People have speculated on working out a horoscope from Mars one day. Well, we're actually doing it. We are in fact horoscoping from Phobos on regular basis. "But let us observe that from Phobos. See? Your torch is up! Changes come this way as planets shift position into their real perspective." It is hard to see all the aspects of one chart standing on one planet only. So we shift to see better. In one case, Juno's influence was not clear to me, so I "went to Venus" and observed. Juno shifted to Bellatrix and all was clear. The idea and process is not old, it's just that it became operational as soon a phase in development was completed. Now we know ascendental constellations vary with time and ages as Crater or Monoceros rise. The zodiacal constellations are more or less 28 in number all of the time. http://neodruid.tk /28 http://neodruid.tk /nu
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There was criticism about "my web pages". When you will produce 700 Mb of Quaoar material you will know one doing research has simply no time for any web page. Worse. Perhaps he has no connection and works on an i386 or worse. Mind this. Concentrate on the substance. Study the maps. Then you will have enough of fancy web sites. I invited web masters to download (wget) the site (a couple of gigabytes) and upoad the web pages via ftp. My time is up.
Shall I climb the pyramid to see the pyramid? Snoop around the pyramid? Fancy it? Enter it? Every angle of observation adds to the experience. Our IAU compatible astrology shifts angles for the advantage of the analysis. What is Cruithnocentrix? The word is to attract attention to a pO5sibility in actualization: we are recreating a new astrology based on the IAU (modern astronomical) standards. The maps show ypur horoscope from various advantage angles, e.g. it is best to observe Juno from Venus by the very character of those objects. We were born and live in Space, not "on Earth". You might not move from Paris, but you inhabit this planet and Moon neighborhood. You can be observed from outer space. In fact you are, God permitting. http://neodruid.tk /sedna/28 Astrology has been always based on inorganic evocation and astronomical gazing. The astrologer was and is a rare fellow into evocation (thus inorganic initiation) and astronomy. Our druids were astrologers. Precision is sacred. There is so much misconception, erroneous preassumption at the core of what goes by "astrology" to this new age day that it can be discarded completely. You can throw your magazines in the holy pyre. Keep your astronomy books. You will find no astrological information in colorful books and best seling magazines. All is wrong there. The zodiac is a band where the planets rotate. It consists of 28 IAU constellations (not 13 or even 12 as some "believe"). http://neodruid.tk /28 It is out of the purpose of this article to go and elaborate on _all_ of the errors your natal chart _must_ contain to be your natal chart as your local astrologer "believes" it to be. We don't just believe. People who made star maps did not just believe, they observed, sorted, were inspired and produced rituals. You can believe Spica Virginis is in Libra, but in fact it is of course in Virgo constellation. You can believe your ascendant is this or that but looking at your natal skies it is Sextans and mine is Monoceros. Those are visible ascending constellations no eye can deneye.
/1/ Alan Leo, Dane Rudhyar and others http://neodruid.tk /nu /2/ See also Enuma Elish http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html >>> = Orcus Delienation = Since babies born at this time often have Hydra ascending, many of them are already "marked" with a Orcus ascendant! = Orcus = http://neodruid.tk /Orcus Updates http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac It seems we have a new object in astrology. While Quaoar was delineated in Ophiucus, 2004 is in Hydra, both snaky zodiacal constellations. Many of you have Sun in Ophiucus but nobody in Hydra. Planets, minor planets, as well as the ascendant are nevertheless often in Hydra, an interesting long constellation as concerns size, depth and mythology.
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Hydra ascending with Orcus for newborn babies shown for various locations, 5 pm Glasgow, 17:11 Rio, 16:30 Charlotte, NC. Various appendixes incorporated in this text, as well as the newsgroup and our Archives explain the mysterious facets of 28zodiac astrology while introducing new ones. http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html Orcus in Canis Minor: Death, lost battle, ressurectiOM. Slain god cults. Orcus in Orion: 1957 was a peculiar year, indeed. Family values, new colors and sounds, leisure, fun, atomic bomb. Sicherheit zu Erste. Protection is the main pO5sessiOM. Orators can be sincere. Dangerous waters! (present position). One sleeps on sexualaurels. Lolita. Lady Scarlet is teen!
Orcus in Hydra:
Since babies born at this time often have Hydra ascending, many of them are already "marked" with a Orcus ascendant! Orcus in Sextans: The Messiah. 2007 Venus in Hydra? Orcus in Crater: The time of the false prophets. LegislatiOM. Orcus in Corvus: Oberon and Puck revived in druidic England and Syria. Dolphin cults. Inspection and spiritual protection. The Holy Raven. (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /Orcus /ng.html Time to discover your own position and those of your future children and favorite tiranitoes. We will use genuine ancient ways (stargazing) whernever it's possible to capture Orcus 's message, more or less messianic. Updates on: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus 666 is no longer alone Orcus in the 6th house is the Whore of the Apocalypse. Babalon's Progress Orcus off Tiamat's Back and into the Apocalypse Will your daughter be born with Venus in Hydra? Largest discovery after Pluto! http://neodruid.tk /Orcus Astromajikal Delineation and Update, Mar 5th 2004. See = Adenda = for astrological novices, curious and the expert! (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html Note that we dismiss it's "position in Leo" as unsensical. Your local astronomer will, of course, agree. Your shaman will agree. Nature agrees. Star gazing confirms. So there's no need to pay attention to "Orcus in Leo" gibberish. When and if it's in Leo sometimes, we'll let you know. It may as well be it never reaches Leo proper. Pluto never reaches Aries or Pisces, so that would be no surprise! Introduction for the general reader: True Zodiac = Albeit generally assumed (?) the zodiac has 13 constellations, it has in fact 28 constellations (or 29 http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac if we split Serpens Cauda from Serpens Caput). Hydra is not only zodiacal, but also ascendental, meaning many of you were born with Hydra ascending (since occult is at stake). One cannot e.g. have Aries ascending in due east. http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac The 28zodiac has an astronomical rationale. After my own modest research triumphing in indian summer 2003, I have found by sheer chance a research has been conducted in the late seventies as a couple of astronomers (NC U.S.A. and Belgium) with the results published in popular format. http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac The zodiac has 28 constellations, and if we exclude Pluto as planet (something already largely proposed), it has a convenient number of 24 (but astrlogers will use 25) constellations. This has nothing to do with outdated vedic calc and has everything to do with IAU. Giant Transneptunians = objects larger than the main belt asteroids (e.g. Eunomia or Vesta). They are usually fall into cubewano (Varuna) or plutino (Ixion) class. The SDO or Scattered Disk Objects are also taken into account. Since 1992 we have discovered 800 transneptunians. Centaurs = popular lively objects "closer" to us. Chariklo and Hylonome are female centaurs. Among the others Cyllarus, Thereus, Nessus, Pelion, Chiron, Elatus, Pholus, 2004 CJ39. Extrazodiacal = A convenient term that may drop out soon
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as it served it's purpose. It may even create some confusion when Pluto is degraded as plutino. Use "28 Constellations Zodiac" to upgrade from http://neodruid.tk /28 Disposing of Pluto, we are left with a convenient (?) 24 constellations zodiac. In that cases constellations such as Bootes would be called "extrazodiacal", along with Pluto's (a.k.a. "out of bounds") "extreme" = extrazodiacal positions. Ascendant = Eastern constellation and inorganic being (especially head or ascended master-star). Aries cannot ascend in due east at this time and age, but it used to at the time when Crater was an ascendental constellation, too. http://neodruid.tk /nu 4examples. http://neodruid.tk /extra for "extrazodiacal" (!:) constellations. One note: The "13th" constellation is As the Sun spends an average slips by Ixion into Ophiucus along with the Moon, Mercury, Ophiucus, a large strip of the zodiac. of (roughly!) six days in Scorpius, it to meet Quaoar, Pluto, 2002 MS4 there, Venus and (all) other planets, as well.
For Pluto and Jupiter in Ophiucus see = Adenda = at the bottom of this article. At the time you read this, Pluto may be moving into Scutum (the resent position of Juno!: see Juno-minded appendix). Have a planet in Ophiucus? Search http://groups.google.com for "Sun in Ophiucus" or "Venus in Ophiucus" delineations. That applies for Saturn or Venus in Orion and other 28zodiacal poO5itions, "Venus in Hydra" including. http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac (continued) Whatever difficult position you may have in your nativity, hard work benefits. Monastery discipline is needed to overcome this object's influence. Abramelin would particulary elaborate on it, but we have Elipinon! http://www.lava.net/~pagios Statements like "Orcus in Leo" have no sense. By the way, Pluto is never in Aries or Pisces. http://neodruid.tk /nu Hydra is a long thing, so Orcus's journey through Hydra roughly lasts 12 years. You can have Hydra ascending, of course, in your own natal chart (but you can't have e.g. Aries ascending). Orcus in Hydra roughly 1984 - 2006. Parenting in 2007? You are not alone, either. See also "Venus in Hydra". The site abounds with data pointing to possible special incarnations, especially in 2007! Parents should exercise extra timing and ritual! It seems like the devils blow their 13th trombone After giant Quaoar http://neodruid.tk /enter.html we have Orcus. Lady Scarlet of the Apocalypse bathes in her poisonous pool as female monsters rise. Whoever saith antiChrist's a male????????????? The site includes the calculations and birthright of the antichrists. Will your daughter be born with Venus in Hydra? Lady antiChrist born yet? It may well be that cynical half jests and obscure astronomical hints nevertheless hide the truth. Masonry knows the starry Snake crowned with the Moon. Now when Venus approaches Hydra and the Moon brushes by... Venus is the maiden, Hydra (the Snake) and the Moon are part to the apocalyptical scenary. Prayers addressed to Holy Mary will be successful, as She counters the dramatic scenary with central return, peace and concentratiOM. Our blood is poison to the lips of the Beast! An object larger than Quaoar has been recently discovered. This article will require some familiarity with the True Zodiac made of 28 constellations. Those include Hydra, http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac (Tiamat, with it's demons-ministers-sattelites, riding on it's back) Sextans, Crater, Corvus. Since Chariklo is a centaur, and so is 2004 CJ39, some knowledge about the centaur objects seems welcome. For an early Quaoar delineation use: http://neodruid.tk /quaoar/quaoar.html Important objects like 2002 AW197 must be studied, too. One can use http://groups.google.com or our own search engines to obtain early delineations of any centaur or transneptunian. The greatest discovery after Pluto, Orcus receives it's first delineation. As we had Quaoar in houses, so we have Orcus in Houses The largest discovery after Pluto may be the Devil Himself for some and Loving Guardian Angel for the rest. Such is it's dual nature. Man has two minds and it is Orcus that makes them clash asunder towards the apocalyptic End of Time. Orcus in Houses (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html
Among the predictable and average errors will be this object's
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assignation to "tropical Leo", an unexisting and absolutely foul preassumption of the poor mind. 2004 is not nearly in Leo, it is in Hydra. Worse: it is not heading towards any "astrological" constellation, as the illustrations clearly show and purporting text discusses in some (even mythological) detail. The other gross errors will spring from the aspects of Orcus. People assume the zodiac is some kind of ring. It is a belt made of 28 constellations (not 13). While Orcus may hold http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac extrazodiacal positions (kind of tricky to check out), it nevertheless perfectly occupies _zodiacal_ constellations, such as Hydra, Sextans, Crater, Corvus, Orion, Aquila, to mention some. Venus is in Orion this summer so Orion is a zodiacal constellation. This truism will puzzle alanleist astrologers, more than his own inabillity to calc his chart. http://neodruid.tk /nu /alan.leo /dane.rudhyar (corrections) Some will assume a distant Sun has this or that aspect, even conjunction with Orcus, while the objects will be constellations apart. This is largely an error with stars, such as Beta Persei or Scheat (or 2002 TX300 giant transneptunian) and a variety (actually majority!) of objects (including some planets!) with "out-of-bound" (bound?) positions, e.g. "extreme" (???) declinations. First he assumes the zodiac has 12 (???) "signs" (?????), then he assumes all planet(oid)s "glide" along the same (fairly circular) track. Then errors spring. People already fancy conjunctions and even squares, since no one told them (you tell what you know) the basics. People thinking the zodiac has 13 (or even 12) "signs" are genuinely and raving equinoctially mad. For all practical (?) purposes we assume Pluto is a planet, and so most of you do assume there is something like a 12 sign zodiac. One took some school drafts too seriousely. Updates on: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus /ng.html
(C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk
In North Carolina there's an observatory that knows the 28 zodiacal http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac constellations. And there's an astronomer in Belgium that agrees. The truth must be told to the ahstrological communtity (even if they won't listen), since there are rare "incarnations" among them that have "astrological" (or even astronomical) aspects in their charts. A few of them could study astrology. This would rise the number of astrologers on this planet from perhaps half a dozen to dozenful. (This is the first annotation, rough keywords used.) The houses are usually numerated and "understood" in a crooked way, e.g. the house of the rising Sun is labeled 12th, and has a particullary bad reputation. Let us be certain that the devil installs minds. Astrologers have minds. The suggestion is to use 12th=1st, 11th=2nd and so on. It is still better to use a 28 house system (allowing http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac 29 for Caput and cauda Serpentis) in our fully operative and astronomically precise 28 constellation zodiac. 1. (Sedna in 10th serves as purport here:) Annunaki HQ (meaning usually the mothership mission control room piloting assembly). Headquarters of EN.LIL Same as Orcus on the eastern horizon. ( Where Sedna in Cetus and Orcus in Hydra combine to the picture of a distant mothership and "watermonster" fleet Tiamut = cosmical submarines ). Chinese dragons, see: http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html Crocodile suits of the Annunaki. IAIII BT c/o pilot. Did you know Sedna pilots the crocodile of your local Green Man? See under "Sedna in the 10th House" as you become neoastrologer. Sedna for Neodruids = A Complete Sedna Delineation for O5 PCS VirtPet Initiates http://neodruid.tk /pcs Midsummer dreamwork. Crocodile as VirtPet of the Green Man. Walking on velvet green. NEMO as Green Man. Cosmical submarine. Solstice bells. Visions of angels. Neodruids. The boat of million year. Anunnaki. Flood. ENKI as green man. Far orbiting mothership. Orcus on the eastern horizon: Three annunaki cosmic sumbarines. En.KI EN.LIL ANU. Thus "watersnake" or watermonster. Lamia. Three watersnakes with female faces seduce the youth like Ida Pingala and Shushumna. Study Aquila and Leo. Alchemy.
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(In summer 2004 Juno flirts with Scutum as it lurks under Aquila's right wing (just to offer an example). Three maidens hold together. The Lamia. This is an apocalyptic version of the three graces. Lips venomed with poison? Deep Yin winning without making a move Clearing a dispute without a sound. The silent, yet intriguing presence of the beloved. I promessi sposi. Ea bissa (Cae dea Bissa). She says she does not like to bathe in the sea. Virgin Lamia. The original kundalini business. Virgin and proud. Lamia's first and last love. 666 is allone, even after a ritual with a compatible Beast. NEM0's whiteness is not like silvery apparition. Brahma's womb is not sunnya sunnyata. Voidless Void. O5 NETI NETI. Final annihilation. Loneliness. There's N0 0NE BUT ME! Agent Smith's "Me, me, me!". Projection. Futile riches. Gay cataclysm. Satan. The Fall. Ecliptic times. The primal wound. Left body stirring. The Dark Side. The triumph of Naga Sadow. All fall! Hell is white. The three-in-one vampirelike monster of the pool is however devoured by their victim after having sex with him. Lamia is not a bad alternative (to Aiwass) for this object, at least while it venoms our perception pool with triurne kundalini. Wav files as opposed to mp3 files. Waves as opposed to life compression. cOMpress time, rather than life. Don't waste a second. Gulp it up. Devour the day. Scarlet Lady masquerading as watermonster? Don't we have submarines? /1/ (This appears to be one of the first hints to cosmical submarines!) (The ratial memories slowly unwind, waking up from the great sleep). dOZe off, will you? Be extra careful with 6th and 7th house planets, as well as 1st and 7th house placements as most astrological programs mistake the real positions, assuming the Sun rises in Due East. E.g. many of you have Neptune in 6th and not in 7th as the program shows. This is due to southern latutude and due western horizon. 2. You give out too much of your energy for free, either unintentionally to the wrong doers or for the wrong or lack of purpose. This is bad for finantial matters. Personal power taps the temple. One protects his own with a hat. Jesus Christ was ultimately sold. The formula of the dying God. Do not lend on interest. Save yourself first. Keep $ome for yourself. Your vital energy is beng sucked through as the vampire gets away with it. The sacrifice was accepted by the greedy inorganic, yet there is no receipt note or thanksgiving or ... anything left in/for an exchange. Hell's entrance. PORTA INFERNA. Set in the Desert. Lucifer. Particularly demoniac with Venus Lucifer position (in Hydra). Lost aircrafts. Highjacking. Deliberately shot airplane. 3. Good will prevail. True Mind triumphs in Silence and Intent. This is bad for merchandize, ego, transactions and the devil. Roughly meaning there is sympathy between the devil and the merchant. Satan's source code. The MatriX. The well of the snakes. Hell protecting the water of life. Black shiatsu. 4. This position means Orcus is alligned with the north horizon. The position may have to do with automatic divination as propO5ed by the PCS system http://neodruid.tk /pcs Excellent for homely matters. Cosy home. Warm familiar atmosphere. A Note: but that may take quite some time! A promise of a warm hearth, even if family life has been less than ideal to this point. Note that we use the nadir + due North instead of mere I.C. Note that with Hydra North this is the Pool of the Lamia. A sort of Scarlet Lady's basin (of the blood of the saints). Love all serve bloody all. A very good position! Angel guardian. Homework for my students: when Hydra is due North, what do we face South? Love, lover, love affairs, friendly dispO5ition, basic sincere friendship, true communism, spirit of alliance, the ally, inorganic help. This can mean alliance from inorganic masters such as divining genius Elipinon.
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An ally-angel carries the acolyte beyond this world. "We will rock you little snake", devil rocked and warm in the cradle of fillit, as one gets away without it! Liberation with the help of the ascended Masters. Heads. Nadiric angel. Time to study your own chart's Nadir to determine your Angel of the Nadir. Rather tricky if you are familiar with I.C. only! Evocation of the nadiric inorganic entity. Sure success in all. This is also diskCretely fair material situation, all goes well. In horary astrology: SHE LOVES YOU! The stage of love. Actors inspired towards love with a shade of hate. Ego trip ends here? We can predict the rise of Nadiric astrology at this point! Too early since our horaries can't calc the Moon:) Meaning the pO5ition of the Moon is always tricky to determine, elevation and parallax and many things... 5. Unsure of one's own jealousy. Too reserved or outspoken to be provoked into jealousy. One may even wish well one's own rival. The ultimate vendetta is Love. The futile triumph of the jealousy agent provocateur. Jealousy countered from the very start. Expert jealousy v/s juvenile training. Love is particullary stressed with Venus (and Orcus) in Cancer (the conjunctions in Hydra are interesting, and Sextans is yet another remarkable zodiacal constellation, rather inclined towards loneliness). Love will devour everything, it's own vampire including. Turn around from lovesex. Get rid of that partner. Sex as escape. Release of sperm and kundalini overweight. This is surely not a kundalinic obesity pO5sition. Touch'n'go! One night stand. 6. Queen Mother. Mother Mary! Indulgence. Love all serve all. Devour all? The apparition of Mother Mary. Vision of deity. Possibly genuine vision! Stoopig dragon? Satan bowing to the Redeemer? Artemides gave herself to All (Pan) and thus remained Virgin. The whore (serve all). Scarlet Lady. "Our Lady Babalon". A harlot will learn. To banish (discreate), use sibiline verse addressed to Holy Queen Mother as given below. Be extra careful with 6th and 7th house planets, as well as 1st and 7th house placements as most astrological programs mistake the real positions, assuming the Sun rises in Due East. E.g. many of you have Neptune in 6th and not in 7th as the program shows. This is due to southern latutude and due western horizon. Black Majik or new banishing rituals with Mars. Exorcism (see also 7th house and western horizon). Artemis gave herself to All (Pan) and thus remained Virgin. One girl for lifetime is all girls for lifetime. The relative choices of bigamy, poligamy or monogamy. Sri Satya Sai Baba. Love all serve all. Help ever hurt never. 7. Excellent for marriage. Note that we use the western horizon instead of tropical astrology descendant. See our correction of Rudhyar and Leo http://neodruid.tk /nu /alan.leo /dane.rudhyar The wife as best enemy of the devil inside. Shy hermit is not Christ in hiding? Magdalen the Savior. Ciesa dea Madalena http://neodruid.tk /venexia Piglet saving the Tiger. Invisible wife's allies, familiaries, the fallen, meek shall florish. Non-persons. An inorganic wife (dwarfish or orkish rather than undine). The partner as challenge. Holy Mary. The angerl of the western
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window. Exorcism. Holy Mary as savior of souls. The great battle of the evil and good forces in the nigh sky after dusk. The green grass of home. Familiar church and altar. Uranian majik. Descending into (trans)uranian hells. Facing one's alter-ego. The soothing and relevant proximity of a sanctuary. Towards the end of the crisis of the soul. Exorcism because the objects above the western horizon exit the hells introduced by PORTA INFERNA (the second house). The underworld is of course the 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th and 6th house. The 6th house is the one of ritual majik, exorcism and Holy Mary. Sedna's dolphins entwined are quite the opposite to the triurne Lamia of Orcus. Aloof Sedna has much love, but Orcus is a dangerous siren. Luckily for the thick skinned magus, Orcus will bite only to die from the poisonous magician's blood. Be extra careful with 6th and 7th house planets, as well as 1st and 7th house placements as most astrological programs mistake the real positions, assuming the Sun rises in Due East. E.g. many of you have Neptune in 6th and not in 7th as the program shows. This is due to southern latutude and due western horizon.
IAU Compatible Astrology An extended comment on Orcus on the western horizon in Hydra constellation (descending). (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. IAU Compatible Astronomical Astrology is free of gross errors in house and planet placement. So e.g. your Neptune will switch houses; from 7th to 6th. (this is good for your partner's faithfulness). Currently Venus enters Orion and Mercury enters Sextans. Orcus on the Western Horizon http://neodruid.tk /sedna /Orcus Orcus on the western horizon in Hydra (descendant Hydra) means the end of an era. Your old life is descending, your new life beginning. Many memories mean recycling. http://neodruid.tk /Orcus Regrets are washed away as new hope is born, like phoenix or dragon's egg breaking, producing new wonderful life. Imaginary or idealized wife. Private deity. Woman adored as goddess. Definitely out of the dark night of the soul. The mind is tranquil again, powerful and calm. Purified through pain. (Therefore the fakir). Definitely green grass of home plus familiar sanctuary. Getting close to one's PURPOSE as understood in Matrix the movie. One's life turning point like perhaps I Ching diagram 19 (in the received version). One is purified through pain. Anxiety is banished. Perhaps spiritual help is recieved. Anti-spells and exorcism. Power mantras. 8. Orcus in the 8th house of the horoscope. Fertile impregnation. The watersnake. Tiamat raging in War. The vampire fertilized. Meditate on the 47. Vagina with teeth (various northamerican legends, tibetan mandalas). Samsara as devouring entity. Merchandizing. Quarrel. Third party intruding. Cutting off heads, punishing, cutting off legs. Legal constraint. Bribery? Jack of axe. Extreme severity in legislation. The law, the model. Making love through the barricades (Spandau Ballet). The wars are for the intelligent to learn. In war Orcus is madness and religious paranoia. Holy wars were announced by darkplanet Nemesis-Lamia conjunct Puto, Varuna and of course Quaoar. http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html Schizodarknesseeks religious centre. O5 gives spheremajikal geometrical barycentre. Aikido. Keep one point. Concentration. Sex is, after all, one point! Phallic Sun, ejaculaion. The birth of a good and religious child. He shall travel. World religions apartunited by Lady Babalamia. Be extra careful with 6th and 7th house planets, as well as 1st and 7th house placements as most astrological programs mistake the real positions, assuming the Sun rises in Due East. E.g. many of you have Neptune in 6th and not in 7th as the program shows. This is due to southern latutude and due western horizon. Sometimes the errors and misconceptions expand to the 8th and
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5th house. It is possible that people have several planets in the wrong houses. With martial influence: discarding the male after copulation. Timing the baby to avert the danger of a deadborn. Extremely fast watermonster. Agressive tortoise. A warning by the sea. 9. Passion. Dissipation. This is not good for the Spirit. As they nibble the fruit of my flesh, I feel no pain. Evil mantras will not have their way. Angelic operation in the deep hells. Devahans under attack. Lord Shiva firing his Trisula. Major discreation. Learning the secret of the House of Hell. Intelligence and commando. dr. John Dee (agent 007 of H.R.H.) inspecting enochian domains. This position is fertile ground for the student. Forget Vitriol 726 and concentrate on the Sound of Victory. Left body stirring (but how!). Secret operation. Global manipulation. The Dark Lodges. Our Lady Babalon. Transits to Sedna in the 9th house send people on missions far away. Uranus or even Mercury shift the assemblage point to the most amazing galaxies yet to be intended. 10. Go for that partner. Climb social steeps. Or let thy weight roll downhill, instead of pushing it up. Thelema. Khaled Khan. Hydra at the meridian. The zenith of the 28 constellation http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac zodiac. Holy Marraiage. Alchemical or tantric partnership. See also Ixion and Pylenor, as well as Sedna in the 10th house. http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html Salvador Dali was born a month from Liber al Vel Legis. He seems to perfectly fit the above definition, at least in thelemitic terms. Orcus is M.C. with the Moon. Social climber, indeed. The partner is paramount.
11. Legal interference. A disturbance in the Force. The waters of the pool stirred? This does not seem a bad position at all. There is lot to work and learn and students and masters gat along fine. There's willingness to learn. Bad karma is dispelled. Dworkin jumps into the card. Projection ascension. Carrying one's own body into the astral domain. Taisha Abelar as Dworkin. The shore of the Other World (of your unchoice). Second attention as programmed by a mural, tarot "card", fixation of (both the) first and second attention. The eecomposing algae of the muddy shores of Venice (Venexia, Vinissia) north (Fondamenta Nove). /vnx/ 12. Love divine. Moksha. True Love. Especially favorable with Venus in Cancer. Less favorable with Venus in Hydra, Sextans. Chariklo in Crater should be taken into account. The Graal. We all have loved you, acolyte (says Lamia-Kundalini-Maya). Original illumination. One shuns followers and is himSelf begging no advantageous gods. This is what Herman Hesse wrote of. Be extra careful with 6th and 7th house planets, as well as 1st and 7th house placements as most astrological programs mistake the real positions, assuming the Sun rises in Due East. E.g. many of you have Neptune in 6th and not in 7th as the program shows. This is due to southern latutude and due western horizon.
(C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html Updates on: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus
Prayers shall be addressed to Holy Mary > The Queen of Omniverse. 4>57 Yilin transl. Robert Matushan boyler(at)hidden-city.net " Troubles are dissolved and worries are removed, with the help of the Queen Mother, participating in happiness all arrive and I can live in peace. " Let this Han dynasty verse discreate apprehension ("verso" means "I sip" (pour) in italian" and establish the rulership of the good Queen of Omniverse om mahalaxmyai namah (Holy Mary for christians). The siren voice of senses is thus hushed. Hydra launches kundalini up (and down!) the spine, hardly purified, indeed. When kundalini is not pure ( > alt.clearing.O5 ), then When the siren cries, we launch p+sitive mantras, rather than just tap our ears! ( And whle inner and outer blend, we can "discreate" that voice as inner. Let it be noted that that's a long way from
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evocation and intercourse with the inorganic. The Lamia event is what we call sex with the vampire (to the ultimate detriment of the vampire). Our blood is poison for the lips of the Beast! (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html Updates on: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus
Love will devour everything, it's own vampire including. Bad keys: 47 the vampire, one's life force gulped up by one's personal devil or "voladero", the three Lamia or kundalinic watersnakes sucking up the young acolyte's sexual energy, oral sex as path to paradisisiac planets (not to moksha), swallowing sperm (as in the vedas), kundalini as vampyre, Kali trumphant as killer, jealousy, unwillingness to sumbit to good and (perhaps) obvious authority, flaming with pride, unable to respect local/native customs, lawless, troubled karma, intruding third person, third man, go-beat-win, the devil itself, los volad-eros, Kairo in flames, Set and his temporary victory over O5iris, the staff of Set, Nibiru in triumph, warring Marduk, the anrgy 4 archangelstars, lingam flying away on Maha Shivarathri. Good keys: Waking up with the house on fire, Lucifer as enlightment bringer, the good salamander, Jupiter's Great Year and good influence, Great Guardian Angel, love triumphs over jealousy, TrueMind triumphs over False Ego, the 4 archangels, the essence of heavenly love, illumination through love divine, the Sphynx victorious, Saint Marc's winged lion with a sword (his second gospel), PAX TIBI MARCE EVANGELISTA MEVS, Thelema, Sai Baba, swallows in spring, Lesser Banishing Pentagram Ritual, overcoming the distrust of the mob perhaps even obtaining fealty. The rightous have no need to fear the Whip of God, since it is a friendly Ripple of Change for them! TrueMind triumphs over False Ego. This means the object is Moon-friendly, but most likely to be Sun-unfriendly. The Sun does not venture into Sextans or Hydra, but the Moon does and Venus will "shortly" be there, too (after Orion). The Moon (Isis) stands for True or Initiated Mind. The Sun of course stands for the devil's install or false ego. This is a truism in India as well where Shiva is said to be higher than Krishna, a lunar deity overriding the solar one, True Mind emerging. It is worthless that the Moon is taken for the soul's true significator! The Moon can be far from the Sun, as it stomps from Sextans to Orion. Venus and Orcus in Cancer make a loving pair! This combination seems to be one of the luckiest in astrology at large! Cancer stands for the constellation. (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html A large object has been spotted in a disturbing constellation. Hydra is Tiamat and has been rising it's head when important occult operations were conducted, such as the writing of the Book of Law. This puts us on guard against this object, which will, amazingly disclose it's loving side like no Valentine Centaur ever did! Updates on: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus
Since the young reader might not be acquainted with Thelema or whatever shumerian monsters, we owe him an explanation. Better, here's another example! Lovecraft often threathened with gods and forces from old, the ancients, finding their way from sealed past tombs into this world. The Necronomicon is said to be one such dubious unlocking key for more devils to come in and play. The Star Wars fans will know the Sith and Krath, Naga Sadow, Freedon Nadd, Ulic Qel-Droma and of course Extar Kun. The Force has no dark or bright side as Dao knows neither yin nor yang. It is the use of the Force to determine it's color. 2007 with Venus approaching Hydra's Head through Hydra's demon minister Sextans, with so much Satrun and Regulus has already been marked as special. This time we have a devilish object influenced by Saturn (Venus translates Saturn's energy bumping into 2002 AW197). All luciferian implications of Venus are activated as Saturn stands for the king (Regulus) of Hell itself, in person, so to say. = Visiting the Monsters = Orcus and Hydra - Tiamut (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html Updates on: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus
An object larger than Quaoar has been discovered recently. This article will require some familiarity with the True http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac Zodiac made of 28 constellations. Those include Hydra,
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(Tiamat, with it's demons-ministers-sattelites, riding on it's back) Sextans, Crater, Corvus. Since Chariklo is a centaur, and so is 2004 CJ39, some knowledge about the centaur objects seems welcome. For an early Quaoar delineation use: http://neodruid.tk /quaoar/quaoar.html Important objects like 2002 AW197 must be studied, too. One can use http://groups.google.com or our own search engines to obtain early delineations of any centaur or transneptunian. Note that Orcus scratches Hydra's back visiting her monsters. This is more like towards a homework for the students, since we sometime work on the delineations twogether. Orcus in Sextans, Crater and Corvus is like three plagues if we observe the dark side of Orcus, and this object most certainly has it! "Visiting the Monsters" can be said to happen roughly every 100 years or so. We are risking quite some accuracy at this point, the orbital elements being still updating, but you've got the idea. When sitchinian Tiamut is taken for ex planet and her "monsters" = ministers are sattelites (e.g. evil Wind), we launch our experimental nibiric binary system on the basis of old chinese codes, see also Nibiru under http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html ( Enuma Elish ). Abouts: 28 Constellation Zodiac http://neodruid.tk /nu http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac Updates: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus Our Newsgroup: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 Updates: http://neodruid.tk /ng.html Extrazodiacal Astrology http://neodruid.tk /extra Updates: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus Enuma Elish, Tiamat, Nibiru http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html Valentine Centaur http://neodruid.tk /centaurs /2004CJ39 Quaoar http://neodruid.tk /quaoar /quaoar.html Transneptunians http://neodruid.tk /2003 /tno All Objects on http://groups.google.com Archives http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck Ixion & the Centaurs intro http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html Scourge/Whip of God or the Tail of the Devil ? Orcus Largest KBO Updates on: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus
= Orcus a Bat out of Hell = http://neodruid.tk (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html The devil, personal or otherwise, has been dubbed "voladero", using Carlos Castaneda's firsthand hellish experiences and some of our own. This object, more than Quaoar, will resist delineation, worse than in the remote case of Varuna, the unfathomable object. For Varuna see http://groups.google.com When we say man has two minds, we allude to the foreign install averagely at the tender age of three being not our mind at all. Compare with "Dark City" and "Matrix" the movies. The position of this major transneptunian object in Hydra is close to the Ascendant of the Book of Law, Kairo 1904. (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://neodruid.tk Let not the word "love" be associated with popular sexual allusion only. Orcus has much thelemitic about it as Love is the Law, but Love under a Strong Will (or, rather, True Will). Love is terrifying to everyone. It terrified people who met "angels", like the One who wrestled with the "ally" "at Peniel" (Face of God). (A form of the word "Peniel", in fact determines the angel, as well as the wrestlinground). This object's totems are the four archangels. Meaning the four royal stars of Persia. The main problem with simple interpretation of this "object"-spirit is that it bears both Love Divine and the most terrifying wrath of Satan in it's own lap! With Chariklo and Orcus at the lap-bottom, Venus going into a mad loop with Saturn Regulus and kissing 2002 AW197, August 2007 seems to be the birthplace of Satan. I was tempted to determine the birth time for the "ideal" antiChrist, using this new object and perhaps I did the work too well. Namely, Venus in it's lowest position and retrograde, heading towards Hydra with a strong ifluence from Saturn and Regulus alone "make me wonder". We have copious material about "extrazodiacal" Venus on the site and http://groups.google.com "Venus+extrazodiacal".
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Some will justly conclude that the Devil himself paid us a visit (as if he wasn't in our every cradle?). In Orcus the absurd but deadly victory of the inorganic pest we call the personal devil (voladero) clashes with the triumphing True Mind. Love is particullary stressed with Venus (and Orcus) in Cancer (the conjunctions in Hydra are interesting, and Sextans is yet another remarkable zodiacal constellation, rather inclined towards loneliness). Updates on: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus Abouts: Enuma Elish, Tiamat, Nibiru http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac Constellation Zodiac http://neodruid.tk /nu Valentine Centaur http://neodruid.tk /centaurs /2004CJ39 Quaoar http://neodruid.tk /quaoar /quaoar.html Transneptunians http://neodruid.tk /2003 /tno All Objects on http://groups.google.com Archives http://www.escribe.com/theory/puck Ixion & the Centaurs intro http://neodruid.tk /usenet.html Our Newsgroup: news://aurora.lightlink.com/alt.clearing.O5 Updates: http://neodruid.tk /ng.html Updates: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus Extrazodiacal Astrology http://neodruid.tk /extra The label "Aiwass" for the planetoid is provisory, and as are this fairly accurate ephemeris by Jon Giorgini of NASA JPL, to whom go all our thanks and esteem. Please assume the object is still a puzzle as it's orbital elements are being determined with progressive precision. In the first days of the discovery, it was thought a cubewano, then a plutino, and it's relative magnitude is still estimated. As son as the object's orbital elements are esteemed reliable, numerical integration is possible for distant dates. Aldo Vitagliano and his Solex software use the NASA model to calculate dates otherwise not supplied by NASA HORIZONS. Aleister Crowley Orcus 1875-Sep-20 1875-Oct-01 1875-Oct-12 1875-Oct-23 1875-Nov-03 00:00 00:00 00:00 00:00 00:00 288.9969990 288.9629561 288.9919660 289.0843245 289.2384987 8.7303227 8.7020916 8.6722306 8.6425650 8.6147722
The 1600 - 2100 ephemeris are on the site. The files are comparatively large (over 1 Mb). Mail for compressiOM! Largest discovery after Pluto! http://neodruid.tk /Orcus (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html Updates on: http://neodruid.tk /Orcus
Adenda ====== Pallas and Juno have been included. Juno is too small to have any meaning in modern astrology, being dwarfed by too many minor planets, but it retains a historical ... charm. Albeit small, Pallas is considerably up the perimeter range. The giant transneptunians have been dwarfing the main belters for quite some time now. Pallas meets Orcus in Hydra. Pallas wherabouts in short. = NEAT Pallas = http://neodruid.tk (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html April 1st 2004 Pallas and giant comet NEAT meet in Eridanus constellation. Hopefully the river Po in Italy will not flood, as Eridanus is that precise river. Pallas leaves Cetus (where it was able to conjunct Moon in Cetus) for Eridanus and NEAT, heading towards it's doom in Al Nitak or CINGVLA ORIONUS. http://neodruid.tk /nu Orion O5IRIS Both Eridanus and Orion are operative constellations used in astrology. We don't use just the 28 zodiacal, but all the 88 http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac constellations, completing embracing enfolding inspiring and overhelming our belowed coocoon astral energy body like an egg projecting or being Omniverse itself, as the Eagle presses His Intent unto us. Those with Aquila ascending (roughly Chiron around the ascendant) may have Juno in Scutum (see article) around the ascendant at this time. The following briefs are meant for the curious progressive astrologer that already uses Pallas and Juno in his research. Pallas in CINGVLA ORIONIS will be delineated for the inner circle of O5IRIS students.
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(C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://neodruid.tk = Ascendental Warning = It is often tricky to determine when an object is on the ascendant, as we have clearly pointed at in the cases of some astrologer's charts http://neodruid.tk /alan.leo While Orcus in Hydra is a normal ascendental position, the neighboring example of Chariklo in Crater serves for an example in cases when Orcus will visit that constellation. When due East ( = the ascendant proper ) is in Virgo ( a fairly large constellation ), Crater with Chariklo are ascending, too. One may say his due eastern ascendant is Virgo, with Chariklo rising in Crater. It seems the only way to put it. Thus we treat several ascending constellations in some cases, namely the true due eastern constelllation ad the neighboring one. In different times different constellations are due eastern. Crater was and will be such a constellation and it is interesting to note Aries can rise in due east roughly in times when Crater does so. The two cannot ascend in due east when it comes to our present time. http://neodruid.tk /nu for details! * The following verses have to do with 28zodiacal astrology. http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac In the case of Pallas meeting Orcus in Hydra, our object is directly involved. In other cases it is either in some sort of aspect like (large) opposition or it is not involved at all. The following are just examples from a broader survey on the 28zodiac http://neodruid.tk /28 Do astrologers use constelaltions like Ophiucus or Auriga? They do! The stars are there! Also: the discoveries are there, e.g. Quaoar in Ophiucus. As Quaoar is far from Sagittarius, so is Orcus far from Leo. Is there any difference? There is! If your Moon is in Sextans, you are prone to discrete aloofness, lonely pursuit, and may even be too shy to form a relation (or too ambitious to keep it). Moon in sextans people simply work too much, think too much and the yellow brick road to hell is paved with golden benevolence. Too much of a good thing? Perhaps losing an edge is not that bad for concentration. Monasteries may abound with Moon in Sextans people. New Year 2004 nativities are bent towards any occult pursuit and wil enjoy memorable fish dinners, as their Moon is in Cetus. Popular programs like astrolog.org by Walter Pullen can perform fairly well in the area of 28zodiacal and extrazodiacal astrology. http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac The function is $ astrolog -XF -Xi -Xr -Xm You should obtain something like Juno in Scutum and that's 28zodiacal astrology proper (albeit the zodiac pertains to http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac the planets, only partially /so-to-say/ to the minor planets. Et voila! March hares 2004 have Juno in Scutum? Are they mad? = Juno in Scutum = http://neodruid.tk (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html 28zodiacal astrology includes Scutum constellation. Being http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac born with Aquila ascending this days means having Juno in Scutum in the 12th or 1st house. Never use tropical calculus to know which, one, it'll fail. http://neodruid.tk /extrazodiacal/scutum What is this position about? The evil majikian uses his majik mirror and fogs timespace. Especially time. Time lapses get less reliable here. Marriage gets dull. There's agression ahead of an average sullen day. Triangle relationships break up and one finds oneself temporarely alone. Allone eternal but constancy does not mean escaping the tooth of time. The practice of time discreation. Intent enables teleportation. Marriage was determined from the start as if parameters
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won't change. The very institution of marriage is not only in crisis: it is unbearable: nothing there for the neophyte. (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://neodruid.tk So if I have Chiron ascending, Juno is in the 12th house in Scutum? Is that getting too exciting? What about some more? Beware the serpent's tail, since it is about to hit! = Pluto in Serpens Cauda = http://neodruid.tk (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html Let it be noted that, while Pluto is still in Ophiucus at the time of the article, it'll move into Serpens Cauda towards 2006 and it'll be Jupiter rejoicing with Ixion, Quaoar and 2002 MS4 in Ophiucus at that time. Thus Serpens Cauda is not a fictious invention of some 28zodiacal http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac astronomy, it is a real planetary position (while Pluto is still a planet). While a bunch of astronomers (rare fellows) will agree on a 28 constellation zodiac, we have found convenient to split Serpens http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac into it's two halves, thus we have Pluto in Serpens Caput (Alpha Serpentis!) and Pluto in Serpens Cauda, the mild version of the evil star conjunction. Search http://groups.google.com for delineations. See also data base http://neodruid.tk /extrazodiacal People will be born with several planets in Ophiucus, which in fact is not rare at all, Ophiucus being a large zodiacal constellation. What _is_ rare is to have a planet in Scorpius. The narrow stripe of zodiacal Scorpius with it's Antares star (and archangel) allows for an extremely brief sojourn of any planet. The Sun may spend from 6 to 7 days in that constellation, making Scorpius nativities extremely rare. People are of course made to believe they're born in this or that "sign" by people who'll never know their own Sun's position. That is only the dawning of the age of error, as we have people running around with positions erroneous by two houses or two "signs", believing one is a "Scorpio". Myself born Nov 28 have Sun conjunct Antares and am http://neodruid.tk /28 28zodiac = True Astronomical Zodiac qualified as true Scorpius. But how many of you can claim that position? (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk /ng.html O5 Initiations, Astrological Services, I Ching Consultation SMS +385 91 108 108 4 ananta@spunge.org http://neodruid.tk Bonus ===== It seems we have Usama bin Liden here again. After we have discovered his (very very probable, indeed) natal Moon is conjunct Xi2 Orionis (the Moon approaches this part of Orion at the time of the WTC tragedy), now it seems this very Moon conjuncts Orcus "under the auspices of Orion, the hunter". Orion is much more, even O5IRIS: http://neodruid.tk /nu Sedna 531.657634 0.857434 11.9304 144.4929 311.8271 53200.5 357.8815 1.7 2003VB12 531.657634 0.857434 11.9304 144.4929 311.8271 53200.5 357.8815 1.7 Cruithne 0.99764 .514819 19.8114 126.4230 43.6000 48200.5 285.4393 15.0 2004CJ39 12.952050 0.477604 3.5772 334.9720 133.6604 53040.5 5.4183 14.0 Orcus 39.473609 0.217911 20.5553 268.5371 73.3331 53200.5 157.5394 2.4 Quaoar 43.190771 0.035717 7.9905 188.8941 162.6650 52600.5 263.5175 2.6 2002TX300 43.247399 0.121076 25.8982 324.7033 340.8429 52600.5 55.3912 3.1 2002AW197 47.514918 0.127919 24.3056 297.4198 292.9571 52600.5 279.4183 3.2 Ixion 39.343359 0.243810 19.6720 71.0181 300.7697 52600.5 260.4692 3.2 Vesta 2.36068 .090560 7.1389 104.0147 149.9859 48200.5 152.1895 3.2 Vesta Ceres 2.766412 0.079116 10.5835 80.4863 73.9844 52400.5 189.2752 3.34 2002TC302 122.272803 0.770739 35.6684 23.9696 277.5245 52560.5 10.9689 3.4 2002UX25 42.775016 0.145089 19.4311 204.6350 276.7125 52600.5 279.2503 3.3 Varuna 43.271856 0.052987 17.1294 97.2854 275.2209 52600.5 83.8067 3.7 2003VS2 39.484921 0.077294 14.7767 302.8610 114.1950 53000.5 358.0593 3.9 2003AZ84 45.193412 0.000000 12.8019 249.5290 218.2038 52640.5 0.0000 4.0 2002MS4 44.862516 0.047481 17.6133 215.7807 229.3647 52460.5 180.0889 4.1 Pallas 2.773483 0.229937 34.8425 173.1716 310.3944 52400.5 175.4143 4.13 Hylonome 24.9497460 .2439515 4.15083 178.23900 6.40615 50600.5 5.81738 9.0 Chariklo 15.774616 0.171042 23.3793 300.4245 241.4052 51800.5 341.4631 6.4 Chiron 13.620963 0.380997 6.9369 209.3271 339.0985 52600.5 48.6288 6.5 Nessus 24.6471691 .5202089 15.64988 31.37071 170.70375 50600.5 15.61413 9.6 Pholus 20.293350 0.573458 24.7014 119.2623 354.6662 52000.5 37.4805 7.0 Asbolus 17.938026 0.618965 17.6388 6.1062 290.3220 51800.5 351.1203 9.0 1994TA 16.8278941 .3037028 5.39654 137.61909 154.55257 50600.5 66.13374 11.5 Pelion 20.011721 0.135286 9.3779 127.1688 154.4401 52000.5 33.0009 10.3 Okyrhoe 8.418944 0.307817 15.6245 173.2011 337.5385 52000.5 259.5288 11.3 Cyllarus 26.403801 0.382563 12.6156 51.9577 301.8605 52000.5 30.3064 9.3 Elatus 12.814262 0.417323 5.6164 87.3246 289.4474 52000.5 18.0695 10.1 Thereus 10.637199 0.197835 20.3520 205.3159 86.8955 52200.5 27.4161 9.0 2003VS2 39.482477 0.077250 14.7767 302.8613 114.2023 53000.5 358.0528 4.2 2003WL7 26.058108 0.502851 10.8188 4.0230 85.9021 53000.5 339.1613 9.2 2003WU172 39.429742 0.218540 4.1330 10.1316 57.0239 52960.5 359.9831 6.8
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/*/ Students will check the meridian of such a nativity, proclaiming it's auspices holy, relieving, perspicacious, furthering, eternal, productive, expanding, banishing anxieties. Let us not forget our 4th moon, too. There's megabytes of this on the site. http://neodruid.tk /enter1.html
Being in Venice is not like being in .it sometimes, as japanese abound. This should not mess up sound astrology. Ad Sedna in 12th ================
= Aquatic his Horns = :::|:| Zhouyi http://neodruid.tk http://neodruid.tk /venexia/unihipili The Mawangdui manuscript Zhouyi translation by professor Edward L. Shaughnessy is perused with the author's kind permission. Edward L. Shaughnesy: "I Ching the Classic of Changes", Ballantine Books, New York; ISBN: 0-345-42112-4 October 25th 2003, 04:18 a.m. (02:18) UT Oracle consultation. Early in the morning I resolve to go to Venice. The omen seems favorable, being "Aquas" :::|:| or more precisely "Aquatic his Horns". Perhaps the gondola is seen as two horns emerging from the aquas (waters?) I mumble and set forth with Orion at the meridian in the clear night skies. Upon arrival at Canareggio I notice there's "aqua alta", the waters are high, slightly overflowing the "fondamenta" here and there. So it's "aquas", I exclaim! On Fondamenta de la Misericordia /1/ I notice a grasshopper apparently approaching the flooded :|::|| little staircase from his improvised white boat, tossed and turned by the passing boats and a kayak (sic!). This insect can of course fly, but it's wings are wet and it's drying in the sun. It needs perhaps 15 minutes to dry and fly off, but the passing traffic seems to contribute to his wet state in the sun. I imerse into a most thrilling series of photographs, regretting a 500 mm lens. I was a target myself, since I lain down, run jumping on the barge, adopted the craziest poses during the session; oh well, I've done scandal in that area already, once with my hair _in_ the channel. The alchemical allegory above us show the Sun and the Moon, dry and wet. As I was finally able to draw the poor insect to safe shores :|::|| I discover with amazement that it has no hurry leaving. we have become friends. It has let me come near, touch it, play with it and shoot from half an inch distance /2/. It is prhaps about noon when I have (!) the enlightment: "Aquatic his horns"; the antenae of the insect! The wet fellow received a grass-hopping niche by the Misericordia building, below it's alchemical reliefs /1/. The insect won't let (me) go at first, then while checking his safety, I laugh at his manouvre: he returned to the safety of his improvised boat! Are we not like this insect ourselves? If a log would save us from the flood, would not this arc be an object of veneration? The hero of this story probably floated from the vegetable shop near by /1/, in meticullous reconstruction of the event. A "centaurean astrology" /4/ analysis with sabian symbols would that I have in fact contacted an undine, a water sprite. Aquatic are her horns? But do I see them? Alchemy, flow, horns, and now we have T'ai Hsuean Ching and I Ching speaking astral language instead of just plain physical observable objects? The line ::|:| in the midst of aquatic dangers is :|: as Edward L. Shaughnessy's mysterious translation /5/ mentions a "mole-cricket". Now that's too near a guess to what actually happened. I guess no one had ever such a model in Venice /6/ as the photos clearly show. Unihipili is the grasshopper of kahuuna lore. True Mind is a little
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thing, generally dominated by the default mind. Cities are the same, just skycreepers nowdays, minds are more or less default. Defaulters go around consuming default. Only True Mind saves from the flood. Another floating animal met me at 1 p.m. /7/. A certain Mustafa from Milano insisted upon a gift: a little tortoise! We knew each other one minute. I divined /8/ receiving :|::|| (one moving line, third) :||:|| and knew I am in the presence of True Mind again! The man has no evil! Now how do I write it for him? The pencil and paper was provided by the chinese (sic!) shop /9/ where I distributed so much protection signs and talismans (of course chinese). Seeing a chinese girl smile is heavens! Aquatic are his horns. After 30 years of I Ching I am finally able to expand through a wonderfully valuable translation, more akin to Derek Walters' T'ai Hsuean Ching translation than to anything else I know. Professor Shaughnessy of the University of Chicago uses the italian word Aqua, water, the old latin root. The choice of words and accuracy of this first translation of the Mawangdui texts is amazing. It differs immensely from the chinese version (Shandong Publishing). The hexagram changes into :::|:: as I meet the music man playing Vivaldi on a set of perhaps 30 water (aquas) filled glasses. Aquatic his horns, too? This piano student and Mustafa were not digitalized since my modest supply of megabytes finished with the majikal insect. Klaudio Zic /1/ The maps and photos are peripatetically uploaded to http://neodruid.tk /venexia/unihipili /2/ Regretting a macro lens this time. I'm really _using_ stuff, which results in rapid aging of any device. The digi does not look like something that shoots at all, but so didn't my first I Ching book (by Blofeld) /3/. /3/ Still extant. All pages have different worn out shapes, closer to a tortoise shape than to an ellipse; but no page is square, such was the amount of it's use in the seventies! Perhaps 30 types of adhesion tapes were used to at least try and make it look like a book, so the object retains some modern art installation outlook. /4/ Centaur BU48, not far from Jupiter in Leo constellation. /5/ At this time I still did not mail the professor for an explanation of "mole-cricket". /6/ That a pigeon let me come as near as an inch I do not take for a supernatural phenomemon. The photos are online among the Murano scenes, San Donato bridge. /7/ 13:10 (11:10 UT), but the event took place roughly 12:57? Vertex adjusting for natal ascendant, the time is right. /8/ Divination takes a second with my special yellow die. http://neodruid.tk /nu/books Mustafa did not notice I was divining at all! /9/ In the city of Marco Polo, the chinese are "locals". They speak venetkian better than myself. Ciao, Li! The Mawangdui manuscript Zhouyi translation is (C) Copyright 1996 Edward L. Shaughnessy The body text, except the Zhuoi citations are (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. http://neodruid.tk /venexia /unihipili --The Mawangdui manuscript Zhouyi translation by professor Edward L. Shaughnessy is perused with the author's kind permission. Edward L. Shaughnesy: "I Ching the Classic of Changes", Ballantine Books, New York; ISBN: 0-345-42112-4 THC and Zhouyi Notes: T'ai Hsuean Ching has ________ __ __ __ __ __ __ ________ "Water overflowing." Mentioning a "bright and glorious river", wasted thin in the place where I stood. I Ching 35/16 12 31/45 4/7 (reseived text numeration). From your next reading and work in progress I Ching Encoded Horoscope and EXTRAzodiacal astrology. Mailing list, newsgroup http://neodruid.tk Give your planets the right to be where they REALLY are! Upcoming = Books by Klaudio Zic = http://neodruid.tk (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@neodruid.tk
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I CHING ASPECTARIAN This book treats the I Ching trigrams as planets, affording for a vast interplay of modern astrology and ancient chinese wisdom. I Ching as an Astrological Manual in natal, as well as progressed (directed) and horary astrology aspects. Enhance your present I Ching experience, as well as astrological knowledge, producing comprehensive predictions for your clients! (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@neodruid.tk
EXTRAZODIACAL ASTROLOGY Stay fascinated with your TRUE NATAL PLANETARY POSITIONS! You might have Hydra ascending with Moon in Sextans or Sun conjunct Mercury in Ophiucus and you never knew it! We probably reinvented EXTRAzodiacal astrology, remaining the only known source of this wonderful holistic science. Your planets are finally treated in the position they actually were at the moment of your birth, taking one major step forward from the standard vedic or sidereal approximations. You'll have Sun in Ophiucus, Pluto in Coma Berenices, Moon in Cetus, Venus in Hydra, Mercury in Sextans and your progressions will never be the same, since we're using the extrazodiacal progressions in real astronomical format to predict events overlooked by other astrologies. Your planets have their right to be observed in the constellation they happened to be in! NASA JPL is in Pasadena, CA (not in China) and Pluto is presently in Ophiucus (and it can _never_ be in Aries or Pisces!) as Mercury is in Sextans and the Moon in Cetus. A complete revision of the astrological system from resurfaced egyptian and mayan astrology to the latest NASA borne transneptunians and centaurs. Give your planets the right to be where they REALLY are! (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@neodruid.tk
I CHING AND THE 360 DEGREES A must for every I Ching student! I Ching is finally integrated within modern western astrology, degree by degree, moving line by moving line. Examples show the interplay of I Ching moving lines, the Sabian symbols and even such occult workings as Franz Bardon's system. A beginner's guide to I Ching Encoded Horoscopes is included with examples like the NYSE, U.S.A., Bill Gates, president Bush and Usama bin Liden. Many useful hints for the advanced astrologer! Assign an I Ching moving line to the degree of your horoscope, as well as progressed positions of the planets. Stay compatible with the Sabian symbols and other systems like Franz Bardon's. (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@neodruid.tk
CENTAURS AND TRANSNEPTUNIANS From the author of the early delineations of Quaoar, Varuna and Ixion. We delineated the centaur and transneptunian objects before they were named! Transneptunian astrology has made it's giant steps since 1992, while heading towards it's supremacy in determining the future of the planet. Discover what the largest asteroid, Quaoar, has to say about your love life, finantial affairs and majikal karma. Early, premier and unique delineations of the major giant transneptunian objects Quaoar (2002 TX300, 2002 AW197), Ixion, Varuna, Chaos and others (such as Varuna sized 2003 QW90). Delineations of the centaurs such as immortality centaur 1994 TA, Nessus, Pholus, Asbolus (the magus), Chariklo, Hylonome, Thereus, 2003 CO1, Cyllarus, Chiron and others. (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@neodruid.tk
FUTURECHANGER This book and initiation will rattle you! What good is to know the future if you can't change it? And the news is you can! With O5. Learn how to CREATE EVENTS, instead of just divining them. The times when you went passively through life's transits is past! Never has such a simple method enabled man to master his own life, while changing the course of events to his own advantage. Once one knows one's future in details with perfect timing, one is in the positiong to CHANGE IT. Change the future to fit your
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PURPOSE. Don't accept a future you don't need. Have more futures than one! Play with the choices! Accept more missions! Use God's time to serve better and enjoy the multiplied feedback. TIME is not for losers. Compress time. Use time in the most eficacious way. Optimize the USE OF TIME ahead of an event. DISCREATE an event (perhaps a really "bad" transit) BEFORE it ever happens! "And my ugly futurities were my own invention!" as the song says. (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@neodruid.tk
I CHING TREE OF LIFE ||::|| Morgan la Fay vibrates in Yesod while Kevin the Bard abides in ||:|:: Hod. Place your dreams on the Tree of Life enjoying the austerely clear I Ching symbols. A comprehensive guide to I Ching Encoded Trees of Life. As already published in 1996 http://ghettobox.dhs.org/t8 the I Ching Tree of Life is an original concept in use by enochian occultists and students of the Kabbalah. The centaur objects are like dark archangels connecting the planetary gods. The Tree of Life expands not only through I Ching diagrams, but also through new giant transneptunain discoveries and cisuranian centaurs and comets, dramatically enriching your kabbalistic experience. A new Tree is growing and it's in your Garden! (C) 2003 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. t8@neodruid.tk /vnx/ De drio del arsenal, anca a San Alvise. Bea laguna nostra anca quando sporca e sensa scoasere spasial.
Oprah Winfrey ============= by http://neodruid.tk OM SAI RAM Orcus - Purification through Pain - Mental Fakir - Shirdi Baba Your Correct Horoscope = Your Correct Future = Astronomical Astrology (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, all. rights. reserved. http://neodruid.tk http://neodruid.tk /iau/oprah /nu /28 /extra /pcs /o5 Ceres is by 1 degree in the 9th house, at the meridian: broadsowing. Orcus sets at 04:29 precisely at the time of birth. This puts Orcus exactly on her western horizon, e.g. 7th house cusp. Orcus is in Orion. The position is near the Moon's position at WTC time (Xi1 Xi2 stars). Here Osiris ( = Orion ) wields the staff (WTC) of power. This is a painful position for the States (for masonic reasons not discussed here). The eastern ascendant horizon is Aquila, the all-american constellation. We had recently IHVH, Jung (Adler = Eagle) and others with this strong ascendant. Oprah is therefore undergoing a JUNO IN SCUTUM (see article) - Juno in Aquila TRANSIT: her marriage status is being reflected by Juno's mirror. Mirror mirror on the wall am I the queen of me all. http://neodruid.tk /Orcus (Orcus delineation)
The western horizon is of course A'aDN or ODN (Eden) paradise in many a shamanism ,as well as alter ego, doomed partner, the devil, oppponent and alike. Oprah's western horizon discusses the Stargate (Milky Way, Orion). http://neodruid.tk /stargate It is around this Stargates that the mayan civilisation was able to predict important precessions, e.g. the upcoming 2012. Oprah has precisely the already widely delineated Orcus on the western horizon position; here's a brief: <>
--(C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, all. rights. reserved. http://neodruid.tk From "Orcus in houses": Technically we have Orcus in 6th, but let us consider both 6th and 7th, as well as the western horizon position. 6. Queen Mother. Mother Mary! Indulgence. Love all serve all. Devour all? The apparition of Mother Mary. Vision of deity. Possibly genuine vision! Stoopig dragon? Satan bowing to the Redeemer?
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Artemides gave herself to All (Pan) and thus remained Virgin. The whore (serve all). Scarlet Lady. "Our Lady Babalon". A harlot will learn. To banish (discreate), use sibiline verse addressed to Holy Queen Mother as given below. Be extra careful with 6th and 7th house planets, as well as 1st and 7th house placements as most astrological programs mistake the real positions, assuming the Sun rises in Due East. E.g. many of you have Neptune in 6th and not in 7th as the program shows. This is due to southern latutude and due western horizon. Black Majik or new banishing rituals with Mars. Exorcism (see also 7th house and western horizon). Artemis gave herself to All (Pan) and thus remained Virgin. One girl for lifetime is all girls for lifetime. The relative choices of bigamy, poligamy or monogamy. Sri Satya Sai Baba. Love all serve all. Help ever hurt never. 7. Excellent for marriage. Note that we use the western horizon instead of tropical astrology descendant. See our correction of Rudhyar and Leo http://neodruid.tk /nu /alan.leo /dane.rudhyar The wife as best enemy of the devil inside. Shy hermit is not Christ in hiding? Magdalen the Savior. Ciesa dea Madalena http://neodruid.tk /venexia Piglet saving the Tiger. Invisible wife's allies, familiaries, the fallen, meek shall florish. Non-persons. An inorganic wife (dwarfish or orkish rather than undine). The partner as challenge. Holy Mary. The angerl of the western window. Exorcism. Holy Mary as savior of souls. The great battle of the evil and good forces in the nigh sky after dusk. The green grass of home. Familiar church and altar. Uranian majik. Descending into (trans)uranian hells. Facing one's alter-ego. The soothing and relevant proximity of a sanctuary. Towards the end of the crisis of the soul. Exorcism because the objects above the western horizon exit the hells introduced by PORTA INFERNA (the second house). The underworld is of course the 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th and 6th house. The 6th house is the one of ritual majik, exorcism and Holy Mary. Sedna's dolphins entwined are quite the opposite to the triurne Lamia of Orcus. Aloof Sedna has much love, but Orcus is a dangerous siren. Luckily for the thick skinned magus, Orcus will bite only to die from the poisonous magician's blood. Be extra careful with 6th and 7th house planets, as well as 1st and 7th house placements as most astrological programs mistake the real positions, assuming the Sun rises in Due East. E.g. many of you have Neptune in 6th and not in 7th as the program shows. This is due to southern latutude and due western horizon.
IAU Compatible Astrology An extended comment on Orcus on the western horizon in Hydra constellation (descending). (C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, all rights reserved. IAU Compatible Astronomical Astrology is free of gross errors in house and planet placement. So e.g. your Neptune will switch houses; from 7th to 6th. (this is good for your partner's faithfulness). Currently Venus enters Orion and Mercury enters Sextans. Orcus on the Western Horizon http://neodruid.tk /sedna /Orcus Orcus on the western horizon in Hydra (descendant Hydra) means the end of an era. Your old life is descending, your new life beginning. Many memories mean recycling. http://neodruid.tk /Orcus Regrets are washed away as new hope is born, like phoenix or dragon's egg breaking, producing new wonderful life. Imaginary or idealized wife. Private deity. Woman adored as goddess. Definitely out of the dark night of the soul.
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The mind is tranquil again, powerful and calm. Purified through pain. (Therefore the fakir). Definitely green grass of home plus familiar sanctuary. Getting close to one's PURPOSE as understood in Matrix the movie. One's life turning point like perhaps I Ching diagram 19 (in the received version). One is purified through pain. Anxiety is banished. Perhaps spiritual help is recieved. Anti-spells and exorcism. Power mantras.
--(C) 2004 Klaudio Zic, all. rights. reserved. http://neodruid.tk http://neodruid.tk /iau /nu /28 /extra /pcs /o5 For cubewano, plutino and centaurs delineations check: http://groups.google.com a few hours (or days) after discovery.
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Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

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Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

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* True Astronomical Zodiac

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

IAU Compatible Astrology = Equatorial Ascendant http://neodruid.tk /IAU

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Introduction (Continued) Tis is the 28 astronomical zodiac:

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Sedna and Orcus delineation continues here:

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Among the predictable and average errors will be this object's

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

(C) 2004 Klaudio Zic http://neodruid.tk

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu

Hydra Kids 2007 Venus in Hydra Orcu