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Members Search FAQ Register Login Home Home R/E/P Bruno Putzeys (Designer) - Dave Hecht (Master Tech) construct ADAT sync cable Show: Today's Messages :: Show Polls :: Message Navigator E-mail to friend construct ADAT sync cable [message #93295] Tue, 27 September 2005 00:19 crm0922 Active Member Messages: 272 Registered: April 2004 I found myself in need of an ADAT sync cable recently. I ended up using a short 9-pin computer type cable, but I realize this was not ideal. So I have all kinds of raw cable kicking around, including 75 Ohm digital-audio coax and some stranded multipair stuff. I found the pinout for the ADAT sync online. Sync Out: pin 1, 6 = MIDI out pin 2, 7 = Time code out pin 3, 8 = 48 kHz out pin 4, 9 = MIDI in pin 5 = Ground

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Sync In: pin 1, 6 = MIDI in pin 2, 7 = Time code in pin 3, 8 = 48 kHz in pin 4, 9 = MIDI out pin 5 = Not connected Also, a picture on the US patent web site:

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So I don't quite see how I can wire one up myself if I want to keep the clock signal running within 75Ohm coax, and run the MIDI stuff through whatever multipair line I end up picking. How is ground linked between 2 synced devices using this format? Can I link the shells? The shell of one of the ADAT Sync (I forget in or out) is plastic, so it seems they intend to break the shield ground. Are the pairs of pins noted intended to be run through twisted pairs? If so, is using coax instead actually better or worse? If anyone has any tips on how this would be accomplished, your advice would be appreciated. It isn't that expensive to just buy a

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molded cable, but I thought it might be cool to make one the exact length I need it, since I have so much cable already. Thanks, Chris Attachment: adatsync.gif (Size: 19.34KB, Downloaded 871 time(s)) Report message to a moderator Re: construct ADAT sync cable [message #93321 is a reply to message #93295 ] Tue, 27 September 2005 03:25 Jakob Erland Messages: 203 Active Member Registered: April 2004 Location: Aarhus, Denmark The grounds seems not to be linked, but the vS's are. Probably open-collector outputs (like classic midi) Most of the signals - excluding the 48KHz - are differential, and dosen't need ground. The 48KHz is referenced to +Vs, not ground. My guess is that standard Cat5 networking cable would do fine for carrying these signals, I don't see the need for coax.. Jakob E. ..note to self: don't let harman run your company.. Report message to a moderator

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Re: construct ADAT sync cable [message #93403 is a reply to message #93295 ] Tue, 27 September 2005 11:25 John Klett Messages: 475 Active Member Registered: April 2004 Location: Carmel, NY CAT5 should work for short distances - I would think that for long runs you would want a shield - there is shielded CAT5 or you could go with a 4pr control cable with an overall shield and drain John Klett / Tech Mecca http://www.technicalaudio.com Report message to a moderator Re: construct ADAT sync cable [message #93870 is a reply to message #93295 ]Thu, 29 September 2005 01:33 ian talcroft Messages: 1 Welcome Registered: April 2005 Location: sebastopol CA This works fine. Attachment: Adat sync pinout info (Size: 20.50KB, Downloaded 297 time(s)) Report message to a moderator Re: construct ADAT sync cable [message #93882 is a reply to message #93870 ] crm0922 Active Member Messages: 272 Registered: April 2004 Thanks everyone. Thu, 29 September 2005 03:22

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The Gepco audio cable suggested in Ian's document is surely a twisted pair of sorts. Wouldn't shielded CAT5 or CAT6 be tighter twists? Is this necessary or helpful? I assume that the side with the metal 9-pin Dsub is the drain side for the shields. I only need like 4.5 feet, I should just buy the Alesis cable or whatever, but even tying off a few feet of extra length seems like a negative for clock cables. Plus, I'd like to think I can make any cable I need for the studio, including proprietary stuff like the adat sync line.

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Chris Report message to a moderator Re: construct ADAT sync cable [message #94504 is a reply to message #93295 ] john abney Messages: 30 Member Registered: April 2004 Location: NJ Sat, 01 October 2005 20:46

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hi Chris, Shielding is important on an ADAT sync cable. Check out the threads over at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hd24/ concerning ADAT sync cables. best, John some new jabney & mccarthy songs coming soon to thecodes.net Report message to a moderator Mon, 03 October 2005 13:38 Re: construct ADAT sync cable [message #94961 is a reply to message #93295 ] strat Messages: 1 Welcome Registered: October 2005 Location: Woodward, OK hi, I'm trying to get ian's attachment opened but no luck, i could sure use some help on making an sync cable, I just need to link an Fostex RD-8 to a Alesis blackface. cant find anything, short of buying one. And also would anyone have a manual, in pdf or anything, on the RD-8? Thanks Report message to a moderator Re: construct ADAT sync cable [message #95125 is a reply to message #94961 ]Tue, 04 October 2005 01:08 crm0922 Active Member Messages: 272 Registered: April 2004 Rename the extension ".doc", it is a word document. What kind of sync does the fostex provide? Chris Report message to a moderator

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