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Discourse Analysis of Samsara in Buddhism

Investigation by the Debate between Buddhist and Nihilist in Payasi Sutta
Lu, Kevin

Abstract
Although Buddhism accept Indian traditional

heritage of samsara, but it also

criticize the he ritage

s samsara view as Eternalism (sassatavada), and criticize the new
arising thinker
s non -samsara view as Annihilationism (ucchedav ada), treat both as
incorrect teachings. In this case, how Buddhism apply Buddhist cannon
s discourse
praxis to argue an d maintain the meaning of samsara in Buddhist way betwee n this set
of opposite views ? This paper will try to discuss the problem initially, and focus on the
later one for reply.
First, we will make an outline on the background of pre -understanding of India n
samsara views in Buddhism, and point out two main rival viewpoints need to

face

within processing of constructing the Buddhist meaning of samsara. One is the

Eternalist who approval samsara, and the other one is the annihilationist who holds
non-samsara. Then, we study P a y a si sutta with discourse analysis to investigate how
Buddhist criticize annihilationist , and apply religion cannon
s discourse praxis to
complete and accomplish the purpose of apologetics . We also hereby disclose the value
hypothesis beh ind religion cannon.

Keywords: 1. P ayasyi

2. Kum ara Kassapa

5. Discourse Analysis

3. Samsara

6. Early Buddhism

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4. Annihilation

natthikav ada ucchedavada





sassatavada
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1 Digha Nikaya, I.
2 Digha Nikaya, I, p.55;
cf. Majjhima Nikaya, I. 515; Samyutta Nikaya, III, p.307.
(Patisambhid a -magga) (Dhamma-sangani), 1215, 1362, 1364.
Benimadhab Barua S u tra-Kr itav ga(II. 1.16) Ajita
KesakambalinPayasi rajabba
(Mah a bh a rata) (Ra m a ya n a)
Benimadhab Barua, A History of Pre -buddhistic Indian Philosophy (Delhi, Motilal
Banarsidass Pubkishers, 1998), p. 2 90-296.

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DN.II.141
Karen Armstrong

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Digha Nikaya.II 123-127

6 Samyutta Nikaya.II. 25-26.

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discourse analysis
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beyond the sentence



(M. Foucau lt 1926 -84)



(the order
of things)





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8 Steve Heine Barthes

FoucaultLyotardTaylor White Meir Sternberg

The Poetics of Biblical Narrative, Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1986,
p.15 Meir Sternberg

Foucault
Steve Heine

9 Michel Foucault, The Order of Things: An Archaeology of The Human Sciences (New York:

Vintage, 1970);
Tr
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, A Foucault Reader , ed. Paul Rabinow (New

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critical discourse analysis

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P a y a si Suttanta

York:Pantheon,1984), p.74.
Eric Habsbawn and Terence
Ranger, eds., The Invention

of Tradition (Cambridge:Cambridge University Press, 1983).

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11 Norman Fairclough, Language and Power(1988); Critical Analysis (1995).
Where the aim is

to map three separate forms of analysis onto one another: analysis of (spoken or written )
language texts, analysis of discourse practice (processes of text production, distribution and
consumption) and analysis of discursive events as instances of sociocultural practice
(1995:2)

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Boethlink
svadha

Boethlink, Geschichte d. Wiss 23 April. 1893.
13 Brhdaranyaka Upani s ad

ChAndogya Upani sad

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pitRyANadevayANa

BrAhman

14 Brh a dara n yaka Upani s ad Ch a ndogya

Upani sad Aitareya Upani sad

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pudgala



carvaka

natthikav ada

15 samsara sam-sr

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16 Chattopadhyaya

nasti dattam nasti hutam nasti paralokam iti.

Debiprasad Chattopadhyaya



III.150 VIII.22

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lokayata
loka ayata 19

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19 (Barhaspatya)

Barhaspatya (1)
pratyaksaikapramanavada(2)bhutamatravada(3)
bhutacaitanyavada(4)svabhavavada, svabhavikajagadvada(5)
dehatmavada, dehamatratmadarwana(6) paralokapavada
(7)kamarthavada(6)(7)nastika

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22 Payasi rajabba
Kumara-Kassapa

22 Maurice Walshe
About Payasi -Debate with a Sceptic

CSCD
natthikavada

CSCD
Maurice Walshe, The Long Discourses of the Buddha , Boston: Wisdom
Publications, 1987, p.351.

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Etadagga -vagga

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Evam me suta j. Ekaj samayaj ayasma Kumara-kassapo Kosalesucarikaj caramano

mahata bhikkhu-sajghena saddhij pabca-mattehi bhikkhu -satehi yena Setavy a nama

Kosalanaj nagaraj tad avasari.
Digha Nikaya.II.23.
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Dhammapala
Vim navatthu Commentary, p. 297.

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28 Anguttara Nikaya.1.23-24

Ja taka .i.148
29 Vim navatthu, 201.202.; Majjhima Nikaya i.143ff; Dhammapadatthakath .iii.147.
30

Manorathapran, Anguttara Commentary, i.159.

Papaca Sdan, Majjhima Commentary.i.500f.

31 Vim navatthu Commentary, p. 297.

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35 Ja taka .i.145-150
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37 Majjhima Nikaya i.143ff; Ja taka .i.147ff; Manorathapran, Anguttara Commentary, i.158f;

Theragth Commentary, i.322f; Papaca Sdan, Majjhima Commentary, i.335f.

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38 Maurice Walshe
Payasi Prince

Pysi der Kriegerfrst

http://www.palikanon.com/digha/d23.htm
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Milinda-pa b ha sutta
P a y a si-pa b ha sutta 42

Setavya

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I. B. Horner
Milinda's Questions T. W. Rhys Davids Questions of King Milinda

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natthikavada

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Maurice Walshe There is no other world, there are no

spontaneously born beings, and there is no fruit or result of good and evil

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(1) (candimasuriya-upama) (2) (cora-upama) (3)
(guthakupapurisa-upama) (4) (tavatimsadeva-upama) (5)
(jaccandha -upama) (6) (gabbhini-upama) (7) (savkhadhama upama) (8) (santatta-ayogula-upama) (9) (supinakaupama) (10) (aggikaja tila-upama) (11) (sanabharikaupama ) (12) (dve satthav aha-upama) (13)
45 ( akkhadhuttaka -upama

) (14) (guthabharika-upama) (15)

P a y a si Suttanta

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candimas uriya-upama

cora-upama

guthakupapurisa -upama

tavatimsadeva -upama

jaccandh a-upama

gabbhin i-upama

savkhadhama -upama

santatta -ayogula-upama

supinaka -upama

10

aggikaja tila-upama

11

sanabharika-upama

12

dve satthav aha-upama

13

akkhadhuttaka -upama

14

guthabharika-upama

15

P a y a si Suttanta

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