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Masonic Temples, Architecture And Monuments In Pakistan, Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad, etc. PLEASE SHARE. Salahuddin Ayubi
Feb 19 2009, 06:07 AM
In the coming days I will be sharing with you cases of several Masonic Temples, Architecture and Monuments in Pakistan. Others who have observed these, may please post their observations and findings in this thread
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joshi
Feb 19 2009, 10:26 AM
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Great topic/ tons in bahria town.
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lamposts (IMG:http://www.lahorerealestate.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/BahriaLahore_Safari_Villas_July_26_2005_1.jpg)
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Trafalgur square, can this be one (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/bt2.jpg)
Pharohs (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/DSC00084.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/DSC00085.jpg)
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(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/S3010012.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/S3010014.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/S3010018.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/S3010024.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/S3010053.jpg)
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joshi
Feb 19 2009, 10:27 AM
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here is the pin type struchure mentioned in the arrivals (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/S3010009.jpg)
monument in the back

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(IMG:http://www.lahorerealestate.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/BahriaTown-Lahore_July-2006/Bahria-Town_Lahore_July_2006-Pic-0112.JPG) check these houses out, looks very satanic. (IMG:http://www.lahorerealestate.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/BahriaTown-Lahore_July-2006/Bahria-Town_Lahore_July_2006-Pic-0085.JPG) (IMG:http://www.lahorerealestate.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/BahriaTown-Lahore_July-2006/Bahria-Town_Lahore_July_2006-Pic-0077.JPG)
joshi
Feb 19 2009, 11:17 AM
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(IMG:http://www.bahriaorchard.com/media/5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.bahriaorchard.com/media/6.jpg)
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- DO NOT FALL FOR THE PROPAGANDA -
joshi
Feb 19 2009, 11:24 AM
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(IMG:http://#######################/upkgallery/projectpictures/Lahore/Bahria%20Town /Lahore%20-%20Bahria%20Town%20-%20Under%20Construction%20-%20MAR%202008%20-%2014.jpg (IMG:http://#######################/upkgallery/projectpictures/Lahore/Bahria%20Town /Lahore%20-%20Bahria%20Town%20-%20Under%20Construction%20-%20MAR%202008%20-%2041.jpg
joshi
Feb 19 2009, 11:29 AM
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(IMG:http://www.thesaturdaypost.com/img/issue94/sl9-b_041.jpg) take a close look at the wall (IMG:http://www.thesaturdaypost.com/img/issue94/sl17-b_040.jpg)
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kaz89
Feb 19 2009, 11:56 AM
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whats the world comming to? in Pakistan we have these idols. how can the government allow this, where are the taliban and mullahs now? they dont mind killing muslims but they wont destroy theses false idols
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Feb 19 2009, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE (kaz89 @ Feb 19 2009, 11:56 PM)
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhh Shut up man. Dont behave like RSS hindu terrorists.
There are many old temples and other relics even in Peshawar. There is an old Raj Katas mandir in Chakwal. It is carrying nice history. we need to preserve these sites and also promote tourism of these places.
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Feb 19 2009, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE (kaz89 @ Feb 19 2009, 05:56 PM)
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If people want to pay to build second rate sh1t like that, as long as they use their private money and
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own their own land, i don't care and neither should you. This is the consumer age, money talks, bullsh!t walks. Building ancient eygptian monuments in the middle of a residential area, is in poor taste purely from an archeological point of view. I've been to eygpt, the real deal didn't impress me, the fake ones built by some Pakistani are unlikely too either. So what do you do. Well if your about to spend 50,000 on a holiday home, and the area is dotted with monuments making it look tackier than Las Vegas, don't buy in the area and inform them why you chose not too. What kind of freakish world do you want where the government is going to intervene in what a private company does with it's own money on it's own property?!
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Feb 19 2009, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE (platinum786 @ Feb 19 2009, 01:20 PM) GENERAL
This is the consumer age, money talks, bullsh!t walks.
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Funny and true w/salaam
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kaz89
Feb 19 2009, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE (JANA @ Feb 19 2009, 12:02 PM)
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh Shut up man.

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Dont behave like RSS hindu terrorists.
There are many old temples and other relics even in Peshawar. There is an old Raj Katas mandir in Chakwal. It is carrying nice history. we need to preserve these sites and also promote tourism of these places.
yh OLD not new, im not for destroying old relics but i am against building new ones. and ur telling me about a hindu temple in chakwal, i dont deny that my ancestors were hindu.
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kaz89
Feb 19 2009, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE (platinum786 @ Feb 19 2009, 12:20 PM)
If people want to pay to build second rate sh1t like that, as long as they use their private money and own their own land, i don't care and neither should you.
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This is the consumer age, money talks, bullsh!t walks. Building ancient eygptian monuments in the
middle of a residential area, is in poor taste purely from an archeological point of view. I've been to eygpt, the real deal didn't impress me, the fake ones built by some Pakistani are unlikely too either. So what do you do. Well if your about to spend 50,000 on a holiday home, and the area is dotted with monuments making it look tackier than Las Vegas, don't buy in the area and inform them why you chose not too. What kind of freakish world do you want where the government is going to intervene in what a private company does with it's own money on it's own property?!
Pakistan should hav, like in britain building design control, next your gonna say it ok if someone builds a building or monument that said praise be to satan outside a mosque is ok. i mean using ur logic u can do whatever you want with your land. what if someone built a house thats shaped like a condom outside your house? would you have a problem, how would you react?
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joshi
Feb 19 2009, 06:28 PM
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well how are building controls gona come when 99% of the country hasnt even heard of the word 'freemason' let alone their architechure and when your gov. is appointed by the freemasons the country doesnt even know whats happening
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kaz89
Feb 19 2009, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE (joshi @ Feb 19 2009, 06:28 PM)
well how are building controls gona come when 99% of the country hasnt even heard of the word 'freemason' let alone their architechure and when your gov. is appointed by the freemasons the
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country doesnt even know whats happening
YH i know its a big f-ing problem, ppl think its just architechture of ancient eygpt and thats it, they dont know what it symbolises today and what freemasons, illuminati, occult, skull and bones, the elite and all that crap is
Salahuddin Ayubi
Feb 19 2009, 10:14 PM
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Freemasonry was banned in Pakistan in 1972 by the then President Ali Bhutto. Laws were introduced into the country forbidding this society to meet and the buildings and artifacts were sequestered by the government. The old lodge building in Lahore is today government owned. As a result of this ban, all the lodges of the English and Scottish
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constitutions were closed, and since 1972 there have been 'officially' no more masonic meetings in Pakistan.
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Feb 19 2009, 10:17 PM
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Lately Pakistan has become the center of attention for the world freemasonry and the zionists ... Now, a washington based NGO International Center for Religion and Diplomacy (ICRD) has been assigned the objective of modernizing the syllabus for madrassahs in Pakistan, Kashmir, Afghanistan, Sudan, Indonesia and many other muslim countries. This NGO is funded mainly by THE GRAND
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PRIORY OF THE KNIGHTS TEMPLAR IN SCOTLAND, about which they brag about on their website "run by one of our Orders Knights". ICRD also receives financial support from The Sovereign Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem and the State department. "U.S. PROGRAM SEEKS TO REFORM MADRASAHS IN Pakistan By Andrew Tully WASHINGTON, February 6, 2007 (RFE/RL) -- A major irritant in relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan has been the charge that many of Pakistan's Muslim religious schools, madrasahs, teach intolerance and help recruit young men to the Taliban, which has become a resurgent threat in Afghanistan. Madrasahs also have been blamed for making Al-Qaeda attractive to young Pakistanis. A U.S. think tank has been involved in an initiative to foster understanding between these schools and the West. On February 5, Douglas Johnston, the president and founder of the International Center for Religion and Diplomacy (ICRD), brought two Pakistani Muslim leaders to Washington to take part in a panel discussion of madrasah reform. Johnston said he and his colleagues decided nearly four years ago that it was time to address the issue of the Pakistani madrasahs. " Look how Pakistani madrassahs are welcoming these Knight Templars, these Freemasons and taking courses/training from them. Shame on our ignorance. http://www.icrd.org/projects.html
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Feb 19 2009, 10:19 PM
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FREEMASON'S LODGE (Karachi) (1914) The Freemason's Lodge was originally built at the location of the present-day residential buildings of the Sindh Club. The 'Lodge Hope' (as it was called) had been founded in 1842 with the foundation
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for a building being laid down by Charles Napier in 1845 when he gave it a land grant. However, when the earlier location was acquired by the Sindh Club in 1914, the Lodge was moved to its present location on Strachan Road. The new building, known as the 'New Temple', was built in 1914 at a cost of Rs. 60,000 and was known to the local native residents as the Jadu-ghar (Sorcery house). By 1927, there were eight other masonic lodges in the subcontinent, all of which held regular meetings. Architecturally, the building was modest in scale but was impressive nevertheless, because of its two-story front portico employing Ionic columns. There is no triangular pediment at the top, however, the flat roof is emphasized by a simple entablature with dentils and a mildly decorative parapet. The entrance portico is also the main stair hall, housing a grand timber staircase leading to the first floor. The ground floor has space for several offices while the main hall is located on the first floor. Several plaques in the stair hall record the names of members and their contributions to the original 'Lodge Hope'. Currently this building is occupied by the offices of the Sind Wildlife Fund, whereas the main hall is being used as a library for the National History Museum.
Salahuddin Ayubi
Feb 19 2009, 10:26 PM
Renovation of the historical Freemason Lodge initiated

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p...4-1-2009_pg12_9
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By Amar Guriro
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KARACHI: The renovation of a hundred-year old historical Freemason Lodge Building has been initiated. The build being renovated for the first time after it was constructed during the British rule in World War I.
As a symbol of great history and an important era, the building deserves to be preserved in its original shape. So
revealed that after the renovation and restoration of the Freemason Lodge Building, the Sindh government is plan
establish the first ever wildlife museum of the province at a government level on the ground floor of the building. enthusiasts. Standing adjacent to the Governor House near the Karachi Press Club, the Freemason Lodge is currently used as by the Sindh Wildlife Department Conservator.
stated that on the first floor, the government is planning to establish a library to facilitate researchers and wildlife
The Sindh Department of antiquities initiated a project renovate the building. In the first phase of the renovation,
plaster and the thick paint layers that were put on the building will be removed. The Sindh Antiquities Departmen made to the structure during the last few decades so as to restore the original shape of the historical building.
planned to remove all the additional cemented structures, wooden cabins, rooms and all the small changes that h
A structure made from bamboo poles is seen encasing the building so that laborers can climb up on it and scratch around and on the base of the building walls has been removed and cleared.
many layers of paint and extra plaster that is not part of the original construction. Wild grass and plants that bega
Sindh Wildlife Department Conservator Hussain Bux Bhagat said that his department had moved a summary in th
renovation of this building to the Planning and Development Department but it was rejected and later Sindh Antiq current condition of this historical building after which the renovation work was initiated, he added. The history of the Freemason Lodge reveals that the Freemasons Trust originally built this building before World the locals, this building always remained a mystery and they use to call it Jadoo Ghar or the House of Magic.
Department was asked to initiate the project. Different experts had conducted a lengthy assessment to ascertain
Jeevan, 60, said that most of the people in the area at that time called the building Jadoo Ghar because it was u
control of the British. Jeevans father Birbhu was an office assistant to the Freemason Society. Birbhu and his fam
live in a small house adjacent to the building. Most of the people could not understand and speak English so they
communicate with the British. There were also many class and social differences between the British and the loca to happen in it, hence they began calling it Jadoo Ghar, said Javeen.
people in the area could not ask about what actually went on in the building and assumed that something myster
The original building structure has a big rectangle hall with a high roof and four doors on each side. On every corn
are large rooms where members of the Freemason Society used to conduct meetings in the past. A well structure big hall in the middle and rooms on each of the four corners.
wooden stairs lead to the first floor. The first floor has the same construction as the ground floor of the building, t
The architecture of the building is a mixture of Edwardian and Victorian style with elevated round pillars and a lot
wooden structures. Despite the passing of a century, the building still stands and the wooden structures have surv
and have never suffered from termite infestations. Most of the pillars, the old marble floors, wooden stairs and w
in their original shape and just need to be cleaned. The office bearers during the British rule installed marble nam
that reveal the buildings history. These nameplates can still be seen at the entrance wall of the Freemason Lodge
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Masonic Lodges in Pakistan
The practice of freemasonry in the subcontinent was a closely guarded secret, and the lodge was inaccessible to t
public. In view of the secrecy shrouding its practice, local inhabitants referred to Masonic Lodges as 'Jadu ghar' (a
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or witchcraft House), a term employed by the famous anthropologist Richard Burton in discussing the lodge in Ka
Lahore became the headquarters of freemasonry in the Punjab and a District Grand Lodge, "a commodious and h 1884 informs us that some Parsis, Muslims, and Hindus were also admitted.
furnished hall" was built to conduct the activities. Members of the society were chiefly Europeans, although the Ga
The first lodge, built in 1860, was a comparatively modest structure, and employed the classical form utilized in L the original building was sold during the early 1910s when it was decided to acquire a site for a new building.
and Montgomery Halls, with pediment windows and a small projecting portico carried on simple fluted columns. H
The impressive Masonic Lodge is situated on the east comer at the junction of Shaharah-e-Quaid-e-Azam (the Up
and Sharah-e-Fatima Jinnah (Ferozpur Road), while its almost exact replica, the Shah Din Building, forms the opp
corner on the west of the junction. Together with the Marble Pavilion and the Punjab Assembly Building, these bui
constitute the most important urban elements of Lahore's Charing Cross. The two identical buildings were envisio disorderly collection of streets and untidy urban environment.
form the backdrop for the new square designed by Consulting Architect Basil M. Sullivan, and brought much order
The foundations of the new Masonic Lodge were laid in 1914 on a site measuring 13 kanals at the south-east corn
newly launched Charing Cross scheme. This is where three important roads met and the Consulting Architect Bas
Sullivan was keen to treat the whole neighborhood in the form of a comprehensive scheme, in order to combine "
existing straggling gardens and broken frontage, with the main roads focusing more directly upon the Victoria Me
which he believed was essential to provide a dignified setting that such a monument required, but lacked at the t
The building, with its graceful and comparatively uncluttered character, has a significant presence on the main roa Consisting of a two-storey structure, evocative of classical detailing, the building is much simplified, in deference Modern Movement that held sway in Europe and USA at the time. Although Doric columns are employed to flank
floor openings with pilasters rising to the full height of two storey, the moldings and detailing of slightly projecting
are in conformity with the utilitarian character demanded by the Modern Movement. A large porch or deorhi, in th emphasis to the dignified building.
of many buildings of the period, rises to the full two storey, and projects out from the main facade, providing acce
The building situated at 90, The Mall, lay desolate for many years; however, it was due to the impetus provided b
Heritage Foundation Pakistan through the conservation of the nearby General Post Office during the 1980s, as we that after its restoration, a museum and archives dedicated to the Pakistan Movement would be established, but objective is still to be achieved. There is little doubt that through adaptive re-use, fine architectural edifices such of government officials or political leaders.
pressure from conservation groups in Lahore, that the restoration of this important landmark was taken up. It wa
should allow the general public to visit and enjoy the treasures of the past, instead of relegating them to the excl
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Salahuddin Ayubi
Feb 19 2009, 10:28 PM
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MONUMENT IN ISLAMABAD (IMG:http://www.express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20070326/Sub_Images/1100153108-1.jpg)

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Feb 19 2009, 10:29 PM
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(IMG:http://islamabad.metblogs.com/archives/images/2007/03/national-monument-islamabadupclose.JPG)
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Salahuddin Ayubi
Feb 19 2009, 10:35 PM
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And here's another Masonic shahkaar. Right in the middle of Lahore. The General Post Office Building located on Mall Road, Lahore.
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(IMG:http://letsrollforums.com/imagehosting/71724943591a4245b.jpg) This building was built to commemorate the golden jubilee of Queen Victoria - a known Freemason. Any similarities with this ? (IMG:http://static-p4.fotolia.com/jpg/00/11/16 /99/400_F_11169962_e8lkxVkIbwr1WHcVVaqrSHrYZibUIWDm.jpg)
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Feb 19 2009, 10:37 PM
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(IMG:http://www.utlm.org/images/masonictemplearticle/thecraftanditssymbols_p12.jpg)
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Salahuddin Ayubi
Feb 19 2009, 10:39 PM
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Check out Bahria Town's LOGO by Bahria Developers (Bahria Town is the place from where the above pics were posted) (IMG:http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Techno-Architect/LAHORE/Islamabad-BahriaTownMAJOR
Map-Phase-A-1.jpg)
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Feb 19 2009, 10:40 PM
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(IMG:http://www.bahriatown.com/images/stories/hi_ci122c59s4.jpg)
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Salahuddin Ayubi
Feb 19 2009, 10:44 PM
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More of Bahria Town Lahore (IMG:http://www.bahriatown.com/images/stories/hi_ci129c67s9.jpg)

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(IMG:http://www.bahriatown.com/images/stories/g_monuments /Bahria%20Clock,%20Safari%20Villas%20Lahore.jpg)
Salahuddin Ayubi
Feb 19 2009, 10:54 PM
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MASONIC UPRISING IN Pakistan

http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/searc...ch=Nazir+Bhatti
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http://www.codpk.com/lounge/190-freemasona...istan-rise.html http://www.rosslyntemplars.org.uk/Pakistan...tian%20Post.htm http://www.templarusa.org/ http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Column/5833/about.html
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platinum786
Feb 20 2009, 02:53 AM
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QUOTE (kaz89 @ Feb 19 2009, 10:50 PM)
Pakistan should hav, like in britain building design control, next your gonna say it ok if someone builds a building or monument that said praise be to satan outside a mosque is ok. i mean using ur logic u can do whatever you want with your land. what if someone built a house thats shaped like a condom outside your house? would you have a problem, how would you react?
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Are any of those structures built in a sexually explicit manner? No. Are any of those structures satanic temples? no. If they were, is worshipping Satan banned in Pakistan? What will madonna do?! ...lol We do have planning permission and limits on how you can built things (size, building regulations) but nobody dictates style. If someone wants this ugly cr4p, good luck to them. Som eof the patterns etc look nice actually, but the Eyptian stuff.... wtf man.... you might as well put an eifel tower on your roof..... lol
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Feb 20 2009, 02:56 AM
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Also I personally don't get the big deal with free masons, I reckon it's all bS anyway. A cult at most. this is more Pakkistani poor taste than satan worship....
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Kashmir is the jugular Vein of Pakistan and no nation or country would tolerate its jugular vein remains Group: +Senior Moderator Posts: 24,063 Joined: 16-October 02 From: UK Member No.: 109 under the sword of the enemy. -Muhammed Ali Jinnah -=-=-=-=FREE KASHMIR-=-=-=-= These eye's do not wander in lust, for my queen of hearts has graced them with love. "We gave our today for your tommorrow ".
noxiouspython
Feb 20 2009, 03:07 AM
Post #29
Aoa
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I've never actually understood what these freemason, knight templars etc are about. Whats the big issue? w/salaam
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Feb 20 2009, 03:35 AM
Post #30
By far the most idiotic thread on this forum.
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platinum786
Feb 20 2009, 03:38 AM
Post #31
^^^ No way, Ceasar has probably posted something more outlandish.
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Skull-Buster
Feb 20 2009, 03:52 AM
Post #32
QUOTE (platinum786 @ Feb 20 2009, 04:56 PM)
Also I personally don't get the big deal with free masons, I reckon it's all bS anyway. A cult at most. this is more Pakkistani poor taste than satan worship....
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i dont know how much truth there is about the influence of freemasons in global affairs but the founding fathers of USA were freemasons, and the freemason symbol still can be seen on the american dollar.
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kaz89
Feb 20 2009, 09:51 AM
Post #33
all you have to do to find out about the freemasons is watch the arrivals on youtube.
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd97bWfJVI4
instantexcess
Feb 20 2009, 10:47 AM
Post #34
I was going to write "Bullshit" until I saw the Logo of Behria Town. Its as if they have gone out of their way to make an All seeing eye out of it.
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The pupil in the center and blood vessels around it. I am less than convinced that that logo is coincidental.
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but damn their architect and project manager suck. Building Foam Egyptian everything.
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Shehz
Feb 20 2009, 11:13 AM
Post #35
I have land there (Bahria Town, Lahore).

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And if that can appreciate the value of my plot, then kudos to the Architect. I don't care if it's Free Mason or Mason-free, or all of it BS masonry!
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SaudiArabian
Feb 20 2009, 11:27 AM
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how come the Pharohs Egyptian archetictures be masonic ? i keep hearing about this movement and some books about it that shows as if they're controlling the world. sounds all like nonsense to me.
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http://pakistanidefenceforum.com/index.php?showtopic=56541
JANA
Feb 20 2009, 12:02 PM
Post #37
QUOTE (kaz89 @ Feb 20 2009, 04:43 AM)
yh OLD not new, im not for destroying old relics but i am against building new ones. and ur telling me about a hindu temple in chakwal, i dont deny that my ancestors were hindu.
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Sorry i had misunderstood the thread. I was talking about the old temples and historical sites. We need to preserve that.
I dont think so now we can have artificial temples or copycate ones. If at all we want to have something like beautifying the cities we need to have a good planned plantation.
My applogy to you kaz.
JANA
Feb 20 2009, 12:06 PM
Post #38
QUOTE (Salahuddin Ayubi @ Feb 20 2009, 10:37 AM)
(IMG:http://www.utlm.org/images/masonictemplearticle/thecraftanditssymbols_p12.jpg)
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hmmmm i think the Bahria town managment gone bonkers. After seeing the above i have recalled an email i recieved from Alex James and he had clearly analysed symbols of Pantagone and hexagone (the black magic thingy who's main buyers are neocons) the above symbol is part of that.
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Location: Land of the Guns
Freemasons are also present in Pakistan even today. They are enemies of Muslims.
Tamerlane
Feb 20 2009, 12:16 PM
Post #39
Most of these pictures have nothing to do with Masonry. There are some Masons in Pakistan left over from colonial times, but not many. Freemasons try to link themselves to the Knights Templar who were Christian Crusaders who used to protect Christian pilgrims going to Jerusalem during the times of the occupation of Jerusalem. The
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Knights Templar were banned by a French King on Friday 13, 1312 after which they disappeared. Then hundreds of years later Freemasonry was started and to get additional credibility they linked themselves to the Knights Templar. Some Freemasons dress in Islamic dress, like the Fez, and use various symbols. (IMG:http://www.masonicregalia.org/wp-content/uploads/c035d3bc32ed165.jpg) They're also sometimes connected with the Hashashin:
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Hashashin: Founded: 1090, Iran (Hasan-i Sabbah) Secret brotherhood of Ismaili Shia Muslims famous for the influence they had on the Knights Templar. Both the Templars and the Hasashin operated outside of their religious divides, and the dealings between these two groups was mutually beneficial. The name derives from the Arabic for Hashish Eater as the drug was reputedly used to inspire loyalty among members. The modern word Assassin derives from this name.
They're also connected with Ancient Egypt: Freemasonry: The Legacy of the Ancient Egyptians Basically they're just digging into ancient societies and connecting themselves to them to add
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mystique to themselves. But no doubt they have a lot of power in Britain and America. In fact America's founding fathers were almost all Freemasons and a lot of the ruling class in America and Britain are Freemasons. It's just a club for old greasers to get together and discuss ways of defrauding the general public while having a good time away from nagging wives.
Salahuddin Ayubi
Feb 20 2009, 10:32 PM
Post #40
The Mereweather Tower which stands at the entrance of Karachi's Wall Street (I.I.Chundrigar Road) (IMG:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/Tower123.jpg)
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A closer look
(IMG:http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Fahadzkhan/SSC-II/mere.jpg)
Check out the star of david within the pyramid triangle above.
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Feb 19 2009, 10:26 AM

Great topic/ tons in bahria town.

Trafalgur square, can this be one (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/bt2.jpg)

Pharohs (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/DSC00084.jpg) (IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v85/suhaibonline/DSC00085.jpg)