Professional Documents
Culture Documents
By Jane Harrison
Teaching notes prepared for VATE members by Anne-Louise Wilton
CONTENTS
1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. Introduction to Stolen Ways into the text Running sheet A perspective on the text Character, style and setting Guided analysis of selected passages and themes Activities to explore the text Appendix Handout 1 Handout 2 Handout 3 Handout 4 Page 1 Page 2 Page 5 Page 8 Page 10 Page 14 Page 17 Page 21 Page 21 Page 22 Page 23 Page 24
Page numbers in these notes refer to Harrison, J. Stolen, Currency Press, 1998
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Establishment of the racial attitudes and policies of the time is one way into the text. A viewing of the ABC series Frontier and use of the accompanying Inside Stories notes for this series (Ken Barbuto, 2000) could provide students with some background information about each of the following historic periods and policies.
White Australia Policy To promote a white Australia it was believed that part Aborigines had to be absorbed. State-run Aboriginal Protection or Welfare Boards controlled and supervised the lives of indigenous Australians from the early 1900s until 1969. Government policy in all states of Australia advocated the removal of Aboriginal children from their families as it was believed this would disassociate them from their culture. These boards decided where indigenous people could live, who they might marry or have a relationship with, and where and how their children could be raised. Protection Colonial governments saw Aboriginals not as people who had been colonised but as heathens to be converted and institutionalised. By the end of the nineteenth century, Australian states were introducing comprehensive protection legislation which enabled extensive regulation over the lives of Aboriginal people. A central feature of the regulation of indigenous people was their segregation from non-Aboriginal society. Persons of part-descent as well as those of full-descent, were often rounded up and sent to missions, government stations and settlements on reserves, or were adopted or fostered by white families. In the state of Victoria the following legislation was passed: - Aborigines Protection Act 1869. The Act created a Board that was given no specific duties under the Act. - Aborigines Protection Act 1886. This Act gave the board regulatory powers in respect of half-castes and the power to issue rations, clothing and blankets. - These earlier acts were repealed with the Aborigines Act 1890, which gave wider regulatory powers concerning living, working, and education and provisioning for Aborigines and half-castes. By 1911 all states and territories with the exception of Tasmania had passed some form of protection legislation with an emphasis on segregation and restriction. The protection legislation remained intact for the first half of the twentieth century. The legislation was built on the assumption that Aboriginal people were a dying race. Darwins The Origin of Species had been published a decade earlier and policies reflected an acceptance of the doctrine, survival of the fittest.
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Assimilation Officials who administered the assimilation policy quite commonly held the belief that the problem of the half-castes was basically a matter of breeding different stock. However, in the 1920s it was apparent that the Aboriginal race was not dying out but in was in fact being supplanted by the half-caste population. The move towards this policy began in the late 1930s but the actual introduction of assimilation policy was delayed until the end of WW11 in 1945. At the 1961 Native Welfare Conference it was agreed that assimilation meant that all Aborigines and part-Aborigines were expected to attain the same manner of living as other Australians and to live as members of a single Australian community enjoying the same rights and privileges as other Australians. Legislation still remained restrictive even if there was a growing espousal of assimilation policy. For Aboriginal people to fit in meant to stop being Aboriginal, thus the place of Aboriginal people was to be on the terms of non-Aboriginal people. Integration In 1975, the Commonwealth passed an Act to make it unlawful to discriminate against a person on the basis of individual characteristics, including race.
A Political Perspective
Aboriginal People and the Law Before the 1960s the right of Aboriginal people to vote in elections varied from one state to another. The Commonwealth Electoral Act 1949 only allowed Aboriginal people the right to vote in national elections if they were enrolled in state elections or had been members of the defense force. Aboriginal people in Victoria did have the right to vote. The Commonwealth Electoral Act 1962 withdrew the requirement of enrolment in state elections, thus giving Aboriginal people the right to vote in federal elections irrespective of their state of residence. In 1967 a national referendum altered the Australian Constitution giving the Commonwealth, rather than the states, power to make laws relating to Aboriginal people. In addition the Aboriginal people were now to be counted in the national census. The Bringing Them Home report written by Ronald Wilson in 1997 showed the rationale behind the removals was an attempt to indoctrinate aboriginal children. They were to think, act and behave as whites and by this means Aboriginality was to be bred out. This report is available on the web:
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/special/rsjproject/rsjlibrary/heroc/stolen
Source: Cunneen C and Libesman T (1995) Indigenous People and The Law, Butterworths, Adelaide,Australia.
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Three key political issues raised in Stolen are: - The sorry issue and reconciliation. - The question of reparations. - The question of cultural genocide. Information relevant to each of these issues can be found at The Age website: http://www.theage.com.au/issues/aboriginal.index.html Selected articles could be the basis for class discussion in preparation for reading the play.
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Hiding Sandy
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The Chosen Jimmy Being Naughty Unspoken Abuse It Rained the Day Ruby Comforting Her Baby. Sandys Story of the Mange Your Mums Dead Line-Up 2
The Matron lies when she tells Jimmy that his mother is dead. Ruby reluctantly lines up because she feels her shame exposed. Jimmy is still desperate to be selected. Annes adopted parents decide to tell her that shes an Aborigine and that her biological mother wants to see her because she is dying.
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Ruby is sexually abused again. Jimmys mother writes a letter telling him that his father is ill. Jimmy never receives the letter because it is filed away. Anne feels torn about whether she should see her real mother. Shirley is stolen Jimmy is selected. The children learn that they will never have any position of economic power. Shirley is knitting for her two children even though she does not know where they are, because they too were stolen. The Welfare people take Sandy because his mother has a can of peas past their use-by-date in the back of her cupboard. Jimmy is stealing again Jimmy is selected and taken for the weekend. Shirley is searching for her son Lionel twenty-seven years later. Aboriginal women stick sand into their vaginas to stop white men raping them. Jimmy is sexually abused. Ruby suffers a nervous breakdown. Sandy spends his life travelling, after leaving the nursing home. Jimmy leaves his prison cell and takes off aimlessly. He learns that his mother is alive. Anne meets her real mother
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To Tan or Not to Tan Shirleys Memories Line-Up Age Twelve Cleaning Routine 2 Shirley Knits for Her Family A Can of Peas
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Jimmys Being Naughty Again Line-Up 3 Shirley Never Gives Up Searching Desert Sands Unspoken Abuse 3 Rubys Descent into Madness Sandys Life on the Road Jimmys Story Am I Black or White?
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Jimmy and his mother express their fears and insecurities about meeting after being separated for twenty-six years. Rubys real parents come to meet her in the institution for the mentally ill. Sandy finds the childrens home being renovated into a new apartment block. Jimmys mother dies before he gets to meet her. He hangs himself in his prison cell. After meeting her Aboriginal family she is not sure where she belongs. Shirley meets daughter and her grandchild. vows she is never going to let them go! She
Rubys Family Come to Visit Sandy Revisits the Childrens Home Racist Insult Annes Scene Shirleys Come Full Circle Sandy at the End of the Road
Home for Sandy is the desert the place where the story began many centuries ago.
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confronting. Did she suspect that the children were being abused? Given the assumption that she did why did, she continue to let the children leave the home for the weekend? A theme that weaves a thread through the individual and collective stories of the characters in Stolen is societys feeling of cultural superiority towards the indigenous people. A poignant symbol of this attitude is reflected in the filing cabinet. The way it was used highlights the fact that the indigenous people were viewed as files that could put away. They were not considered to be humans who wanted to be loved by those who were closest to them. The Matron tells Jimmy that his mother is dead and to Just forget her. (p.12) Yet the audience knows that his mother is writing him letters which are being filed away. The final letter he wrote in custody was also filed. Why didnt white society show some human warmth or compassion to the most basic of human needs? Did members of white society truly think that Aboriginals were so different, biologically and culturally, that they didnt feel emotions of loneliness and sadness? It was heartening to witness Sandy return to the home, open the cabinet, and slam the cabinet shut because at least for him, that part of his story was over. The view of indigenous people and their culture as inferior is highlighted in the episode when Annes adoptive parents tell her that her biological mother is alive and that shes -Aboriginal? (P.14.) Annes adoptive parents feel the shame, (p.14) of her cultural background. In this confrontation we see the mother and father support one another while Anne, isolated and alone begins to question her understanding of who she is. Annes parents attitudes mirror many of those in society at the time who thought that they were giving an Aboriginal child a good upbringing. (P.7.) Stolen does not provide a quick-fix solution to the problems of its characters and in fact raises more questions than it answers. What was the intention of the government policy, which took half-caste Aboriginal children from their cultural environment? Are these characters stories representative of others who were stolen? Does this policy contravene the United Nations Convention of Human Rights? Was the policy of taking the children a subversive attempt at genocide? Can we retrospectively judge the action by contemporary standards and policies? Where do we go to from here in terms of reconciliation? Jane Harrison shows the devastating effects of removing Aboriginal children from their families and placing them in an institution where they did not belong. Neglected, abused and silenced, Anne, Ruby, Shirley, Jimmy and Sandy all eventually find their way home. The shame of this policy was that children incapable of protecting themselves had to cope with physical, sexual, emotional and spiritual loss of innocence. Yet in the end Stolen is a celebration of the strength of the human spirit and the individuals capacity for survival. Stolen shows that voicing our individual stories, no matter how painful, is a necessary part of the healing process. It is through sharing their stories that the characters ensure we do not reinforce a second silence in the present and as a nation it moves us one step closer towards reconciliation. Jane Harrisons play Stolen shows that when one person suffers we are all wounded and diminished and that the well-being of our society is the measure of our collective Australian identity.
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Jimmy
Jimmy is a lost and lonely boy who desperately wants to be reunited with his mother who loves him. During his periods of institutionalization he experiences emotional and physical abuse which has a devastating effect on his sense of self-worth. Jimmys journey leads him back home where he learns that his mother is alive. Tragically, fate intervenes and she dies before they are reunited. When he learns of her death he hangs himself in custody. Jimmys story is a damning indictment of the way white society treated Aboriginal children. Find examples in the play that support this statement. Jimmy is a victim of circumstances beyond his control. Do you agree or disagree? Find examples from the play to support your point of view. How do you interpret Jimmys death? Is it a tragic waste or a hopeful end to his life?
Sandy
Sandy is removed from a carefree childhood, spent with an extended family, on the land where he feels a sense of belonging. The Welfare people decide his mother is unfit to raise her children because at the back of the cupboard she has a can of peas which are past the use-by-date. The severity of this judgment, relating standards of house-keeping to maternal capability, might well strike a chord with the audience. Sandys journey is spent on the run as he searches for a place to call home. Despite never being reunited with his family Sandy finds peace and realizes that like the earth, he has the power to heal himself and that no one can take his home again, because he carries it with him. What does Sandy mean when he states, I carry my home with me? (P.1.) What is the message that Sandy shares when he tells the fictional Dreamtime story of the Mungee? Whilst on the run Sandy, shares his story with a white lady who feels sorry for him and hands him a twenty dollar note. Why does she do this?
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The end of Sandys journey leaves the audience feeling a sense of hope because he shows us that you cant steal what belongs to eternity. Do you agree with this interpretation?
Shirley
Shirley is a stolen child, and later a mother who has her own children, Kate and Lionel, stolen. Finally she is a grandmother whose family is reunited. She knits to numb the excruciating pain of losing her children, which she has carried for twenty-five years. Shirley knows how fragile ones hold on life can be, yet, despite this, she is optimistic about the future.
Shirley says, They say time heals but thats a load of bullshit if youll pardon my language. (p.35) To what extent to you agree with Shirleys opinion? Read Helen Barnacles story, entitled Dont Let Her See Me Cry, about parting with her four-year-old daughter when she was in Fairlea Womens Prison. What do the stories show about the biological bond between a mother and a child?
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Anne is adopted by couple who feel they are saving her from the degradation of Aboriginal culture. The raise her as their own daughter until they are forced to reveal that her Aboriginal mother is ill. This places Anne in a quandary because it is the first time that she has been told that she is of Aboriginal origin. This knowledge raises many complex questions about her identity. The problems are not resolved with a quick fix, neat, happy Hollywood ending. Rather the audience is left wondering how she will mesh the two worlds together given her upbringing. What stereotyped images of Aboriginals does Anne share with the audience? Whilst Anne expressed anger at her white adoptive parents she never expressed anger at her Aboriginal family for her removal. Do you think this is a typical response of children in similar situations? It has been stated that ignorance is bliss. Do you think Annes adoptive parents did the right thing telling her about her Aboriginal mother given the conflict that it caused between them, within Anne, and most probably between Anne and her Aboriginal family?
Ruby
Rubys innocence is stolen from her when she is sexually abused. As a result of her tortured experience, cruel and degrading voices reverberate in her head. Whilst Ruby is reunited with her Aboriginal family, the audience feels that there is little chance that this reunion will help the healing process. Reread her descent into madness on p.24, and the episode where she is reunited with her family on pp. 30-31. Do you think Ruby will ever find her way home from the mental pain and suffering that she experiences?
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Both Ruby and Anne are given a doll. Why was each girl given a doll? What does a white doll with white hair symbolize? What does this show about white peoples attitudes towards the children? Whilst all the characters suffered it could be argued that Jimmy and Ruby suffered the most. Do you agree or disagree with this interpretation? Using the Inspirations software package, write a summary of the plot and complete a profile on each of the main characters. Select relevant quotes to support your ideas.
Setting
The director and designer have approached the setting in a minimalist way. Five old iron institutional beds represent their characters lives at different periods of time. Annes bed is prettier because wealthy white parents adopt her; Jimmys bed is turned around showing us that he has spent time in custody. Images in black and white, which cast shadows over the set, are symbolic of the shadows in each of the characters lives. Props The characters carry a suitcase with their lifes belongings The white, clean room highlights that the characters cant hide or breathe in this environment which simultaneously sealed them in, and tore them apart. The broom is a symbol of domestic servitude The filing cabinet shows the repression that each of them suffered.
Read Handout Number 4 Is That You Ruthie? By Ruth Hegarty pp.134 137. This short extract highlights the control that the filing cabinet had over each of the characters lives.
Initially, the play was to be titled The Lost Generation but was changed after The Bringing Them Home report was published in 1997. What different images does the term lost in comparison to stolen conjure in the readers and the audiences mind? List the derogatory terms in the play associated with Aboriginal people. What effect did this language have on their development as individuals? Anne states in the episode Am I Black or White? You know nothing about being a Koori. (p.29.) Why is this word only used once? Why is Koori selected and not Aboriginal person?
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To develop a visual understanding of the images used on the projected slides refer to: MacDonald Rowena (1995) Between Two Worlds IAD Press Northern Territory Australia Visit the Melbourne Museum at the Exhibition Buildings
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For a further discussion with the director, playwright and designer, Background notes are available from the Playbox for a minimal cost. Stolen is returning to the Playbox Theatre at the Malthouse for another season in 2002.
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Section 6.
Aboriginal Identity
Jimmy: Ive been a thug and a thief but Ive never stolen anyones soul. (P.34.) Removal has had devastating effects on Aboriginal communities because the peoples sense of self is totally bound up with kinship. In Aboriginal society the family unit is very large and extended, often with ties to the community. Breaking down the family unit has created many emotional, mental and physical problems. It also impeded intellectual development.
Define the term identity and discuss the different aspects that contribute to ones sense of identity. Find examples in the text that show that the strength of Aboriginal identity is inexorably tied up with belonging to a community. Stolen shows the reader that you have to know where you come from to know where you are going. Discuss Read in more depth about indigenous families on the internet at the following website: http://dreamtime.net.au/indigenous/family.com
A Sense of Place
Sandy: Back to me place. That bit of red desert. I still remember it. The sand must have seeped into my brain. (P.36.) Stolen shows that despite some of the physical characteristics that distinguish the characters from one another they all felt a spiritual tie with the land. It also shows how removing them from the land took the spirit out of the characters life. Added to this, human contact was always authoritarian in the institutions where the children were placed. Is it any wonder that they failed to grow? The Land Reread the episode Desert Sands, (pp.22-23.) What does this episode show about the importance of Sandys link to the land? The Childrens Home Re-read the episodes Cleaning Routine, (pp.17-18) and Unspoken Abuse 3 and Rubys Descent into Madness, (pp.23-24.) What do these episodes shows about how the children were conditioned to think?
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Peter Read, in his text, A rape of the soul so profound, reports the outcomes of ten case histories he examined. It reveals that each person removed declined catastrophically in both personality and intelligence. Refer to Handout Number 3, (p.23), for a copy of the comments drawn from school reports and superintendents assessments. Shirley says, Home is where the heart is. To what extent is this demonstrated in the play?
Find examples in the play that show how the policy of removal was meant to help Aboriginal children. Find examples in the play that show white people didnt believe that the Aboriginal people had an inner life. Find examples in the play that show negative information about Aboriginal culture being given to the characters. It was argued that the policies were well intentioned. View The Sunday Program Channel 9, 9 April 2000. It shows the white persons perspective of this policy. Why were white voices used to taunt the characters instead of real people?
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Could the policy of assimilation be considered genocide? If so, why? If not, why not? Read Raymond Gaitas Genocide and the Stolen Generations found in A Common Humanity: Thinking about Love and Truth and Justice, Text Publishing, Melbourne, 1999, pp.131-155. Further References: Haebich, Anna Broken Circles: fragmenting indigenous families 1800-2000 Freemantle Arts Centre Press, 2000. Read, P. A Rape of the Soul So Profound: the return of the stolen generations, Allen and Unwin, New South Wales, Australia, 1999. What are other peoples perspectives on The Bringing Them Home report? Read the section title Perspectives, (pp.121-164) in Bird, Carmel, The Stolen Children and their Stories, Random House, New South Wales, Australia, 1998.
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Monologue Analyse a character (not necessarily a major character), and give a perspective on the removal of Aboriginal children. For example, a student may choose to present Annes adoptive mother and fathers perspective of raising a half-caste child. Informative presentation Using PowerPoint, present a brief outline of Aboriginal history making direct links to the experiences of the characters in the text. This presentation should make use of an informative voice-over as well as still photographs. Text presentation Re-read the episode, Your mums dead, (pp.11-13.) Dramatise this episode and use PowerPoint to present the dreamin images that circle around their beds. Narrative on a theme Present an interpretation of the text by addressing (and acting out) important events in the narrative. Students should focus on a theme that ties related events together in the play, and explain changes that have occurred over time, and the reasons for such changes occurring. Developing an episode outside the scope of the play Write an episode (or series of episodes) depicting imagined conversations outside the action of the play. For example, dialogue between the Matron and Rubys caretakers for the weekend or a dialogue between the Welfare men as they arrive to take Sandy and his brothers and sisters. Debate or Speech That there never was a generation of stolen children. Refer to The Education Age website: www.theage.com.au/issues/aboriginal.index.html
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Stolen deals with each characters struggle to be reunited with their ancestral identity. Are they successful? Lives governed by the same regimented policy affected us differently; however, what happened to one, happened to all of us. Discuss. There is a lot of pain in having fingers and legs broken but it takes a lot longer to repair spirits and minds. Discuss. The characters are never victims as they triumph over adversity and inspire optimism and spirit. Do you agree? Jane Harrison stated, What always impressed me was the lack of bitterness from the many survivors of these policies and Ive tried to mirror that attitude in the play. Stolen is not about blame, its about understanding and acceptance. Is this your view of Stolen? Stolen shows the effects of institutionalisation on an individual who is simply trained to obey and not treated as a person of flesh and blood. Discuss. The shame is about never being regarded as someones daughter or son who had needs and dreams. Discuss. Stolen shows the disastrous consequences of the cruelty of severing the spiritual and biological link between mother and child. Discuss. Institutionalization teaches the characters learned helplessness. opinion? What is your
A review of the play claims that Stolen is an evening of shame and sorrow and a desperate pleading for reconciliation between black and white. To what extent do you agree with this view?
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Section 8. Appendix
Handout Number 1
The Archie Roach story has been well documented. A former homeless alcoholic, Archie Roach recorded his first record Charcoal Lane, in 1990 with Paul Kelly lending a hand. The album contained Took the Children Away, a song that dealt with Archie's past experience as one of what is now called the 'stolen generation' of Aboriginal people. This storys right, this storys true I would not tell lies to you Like the promises they did not keep And how they fenced us in like sheep Said to us come take our hand Sent us off to mission land Taught us to read, to write and pray Then they took the children away Took the children away The children away Snatched from their mothers breast Said it was for the best Took them away The welfare and the policeman Said youve got to understand Well give to them what you cant give Teach them how to really live Teach them how to live they said Humiliated them instead Taught them that and taught them this And others taught them prejudice You took the children away The Children away Breaking their mothers heart Tearing us all apart Took them away One dark day on Framingham Came and didnt give a damn My mother cried Go get their dad He came running fighting mad Mothers tears were falling down Dad shaped up, he stood his ground He said You touch my kids and you fight me And they took us from our family Took us away They took us away Snatched us from our mothers breast Said it was for the best Took us away Told us what to do and say Told us all the white mans ways Then they split us up again And gave us gifts to ease the pain Sent us off to foster homes As we grew we felt alone Cause we were aching white Yet feeling black One sweet day all the children came back The children came back The children came back Back where their hearts grow strong Back where they all belong The children came back Said the children came back The children came back Back where they understand Back to their mothers land The children came back Back to their mother Back to their father Back to their sister Back to their brother Back to their people Back to their land All the children came back The children came back The children came back Yes, I came back
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Handout Number 2
Archie's 1997 release, Looking for Butter Boy, sees him again explore musically his past. Mother's Heartbeat is a moving song about the stolen generation, which gives an insight into the depth of suffering experienced by so many Aboriginal Australians. When I was inside my mother her heartbeat kept me whole in perfect time together my mind, my body, my soul there's nothing so sweet as my mother's heartbeat my mother's heart was beating when I first touched the ground safe in my mother's keeping how I was safe and sound ah, there's nothing so sweet as my mother's heartbeat my mother's heart stopped beating one dark and dreadful day and all I heard was weeping the day I went away ah, there's nothing so sweet as my mother's heartbeat beating inside her womb waiting inside my room her body loves me to sleep waiting through my darkest night beating, it's my rhythm of life the sound of my mother's heartbeat ah, my mother's heart is beating somewhere in this earth and at night while I lie there sleeping I'll dream sweet dreams of her for there's nothing so sweet as my heartbeat
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Handout Number 3 Extract from A Rape of the Soul So Profound by Peter Read
Comments drawn from school reports and superintendents assessments (pp.173-174) Clem 1943: first in a class of six 1947: a very good worker by himself 1953: convicted of assault and robbery Elsie 1946: 1947: 1949: 1950: good conduct encouraging school reports very poor intelligence, special abilities nil a very lazy worker and not clean, seems to be in a daze
George 1941: Trustworthy, very good 1944: very dull 1946: spends all his spare time on his bed reading and sleeping Norman 1944: a good little boy, satisfactory, very bright 1950: difficult, temperamental, very erratic, of doubtful morals and honesty 1952: of insufficient education even to join the army Fred 1947: satisfactory, developing along the right lines 1951: very sullen disposition, most unhappy Claude 1946: intellectually good, fair 7th in a class of 12 1950: unsettled after running away to join his mother 1952: certified insane and placed in a mental hospital Annie 1942: first in class, behaviour very fair even good, needs help, wants to be a nurse 1943: reasonably good 1949: defiant, rude and untruthful, legally uncontrollable Irene 1945: did well in some subjects at school 1946: good child, doing all right, good 1948: 8th out of a class of 21, although of poor intelligence; doing very well, a good willing girl 1950: accused of theft, tantrums, complained of loneliness 1952: mentally retarded, should be examined by a mental expert 1962: in and out of gaol, mostly for drunkenness.
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Handout Number 4 Extract from Is That You Ruthie? by Ruth Hegarty pp. 135-137
In 1986 Joe died of cancer, it was then that I began to journey back to my roots, and find out what was happening to all my friends. Every now and then one of them would say, When are you going to write that book, Ruthie? and Id think about our lives in the dormitory. I felt that there had to be more information around, something written down, some official record of the dormitories. On the advice of my daughter, Moira, I went to the Department of Family Services in George Street hoping to discover some of the dormitory girls history. No, they said, theres no official history, no one expected you (Aboriginal people) to survive, so no one bothered to write a history . . . But we do have a file on you. I was surprised, but apparently everyone who went through the dormitory system had a file. I was there that day with Cassie, my eldest daughter, and we waited patiently while they went off to find my file. Finally they handed it to me and as I turned over the pages I saw the story of my life written in official letter-head, memorandums, letters, copies of travel permits and clothing dockets. I even found letters Id sent to Glenys father, and one from him that Id never received. There were the letters Id sent to the Department of Native Affairs, and their letters to me and to various people I had worked over the years. But I was horrified to discover they also had records of the awful interviews they put us dormitory girls through when we came back to Cherbourg pregnant. Nosey and demeaning questions about who we had been seeing and what we had been doing. It was disgusting; I did not want my children or anyone else seeing this. I remembered how humiliating it was, all those years ago, having to stand in front of the administrator while he asked those questions very personal questions. You had to stand in front of his desk while he sat back in a comfortable chair and took notes. Many of the girls were put through this, and often they would say yes to anything to get the interview over and done with. To think that they had written it all down and put it in a file where it sat for nearly fifty years. Afterwards, I thought how different my life might have been had Glenys father got to read those letters I sent him, or if I had read his. They wouldnt let me have the letters, so I got copies of them for Glenys to read. But I wanted all those files to be destroyed, and I went in and told them so. But they wouldnt destroy them. They dont belong to me, they said, the files are the property of the Queensland government. But they told me I could put a waiver on my file or on some of it if I wanted to, so that no one else could ever see it, so I did. Seeing that file there and all the information in it made me realise how much they controlled our lives. All the other dormitory girls would have similar files too, all stored away in this government department. How ironic it turned out to be here was material I could use to help me write my book. But even with all this information, it would take me the phone call about Dulcies death to really get me started.
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