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Smoking pot doesn't hurt lung capacity, study shows

By Kim ber ly H a y es Ta y lor Periodically smoking marijuana doesn't appear to hurt lung capacity, the largest study ever conducted on pot smokers has found. Even though most marijuana smokers tend to inhale deeply and
Smoking a joint a day for up to seven years didn't cause a reduction in lung capacity, a new study shows.
hold the smoke in for as long as they can before exhaling, the lung capacity didn't deteriorate even among those who smoked a joint a day for seven years or once a week for 20 years, according to the study published Tuesday in JAMA, the journal of the American M edical Association. I n recent years, studies on marijuana smoking and its effects on lung function have been contradictory. While most studies have shown no effects on the lungs from smoking cannabis, others have shown adverse effects, and still others have shown improvement in lung function. Researchers at the University of California, San Francisco, and University of Alabama at Birmingham knew tobacco smoking causes lung damage and leads to respiratory issues such as chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), but they wanted to be clear whether smoking marijuana, had similar effects.
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They measured lung function multiple times in more than 5,100 men and women during a 20-year period. I n fact, the research shows, some people who regularly smoke marijuana can have a slight improvement in lung function. Experts say that people shouldnt simply take the news as green light to get high, but should also consider other factors. M arijuana is a complicated substance, and for people who are thinking about what theyve done in the past or are thinking about using marijuana or believing it can help medically, their decision should not be based on lung consideration, says study co-author Dr. Stefan Kertesz, a researcher and primary care doctor at University of Alabama at Birmingham and the Birmingham VA Medical Center.
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I ts not a decision about lung health, its all the other issues: the risk of addiction, an increase in the chance of having
accidents and social functioning. Researchers reached their findings by using data from the Coronary Artery Risk Development in Young Adults, collecting repeated measurements of lung function and smoking from March 1985 to August 2006. More than half of the participants, or 54 percent, said they were current marijuana smokers, cigarette smokers or both when the study began. The average marijuana use was only a joint or two a few times a month typical for U.S. marijuana users, Kertesz said. The authors calculated the effects of tobacco and marijuana separately, both in people who used only one or the other, and in people who used both. They also considered other factors that could influence lung function, including air pollution in cities studied. The analyses showed pot didn't appear to harm lung function, but cigarettes did. Cigarette smokers' test scores worsened steadily during the study. Researchers measured how well participants could blow air in and out. A healthy adult can exhale about a gallon of air in one second. Although their study focused on lighter smokers, they found some people who smoked more than a joint a day for seven years, could exhale slightly more air than that. Kertesz says that extra strength may come from the habit of deeply inhaling, holding and slowly exhaling marijuana smoke. I ts a tiny increase; its not a big increase to lung health, he says. So be careful not to say that, Oh, wow! Lungs work better on marijuana. That would be totally inaccurate. Authors say there weren't enough heavy users (those who smoked two or more joints a day) among those in the study to draw firm conclusions on that group.
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Dr. Donald Tashkin, who has studied the relationship between marijuana smoking and lung function for more than 30 years as a professor of medicine at UCLA, says the study confirms what other research has also concluded. This is a well-done study involving more subjects than in the past, says Tashkin, who is not affiliated with the new study. The public should take away its a confirmatory study, but larger and longer than previous studies demonstrating, once again, that smoking marijuana does not impair lung function, unlike tobacco. Tashkin says scientists have a theory that lung capacity is not affected in marijuana smokers because the chemical THC in marijuana has immunosuppressant properties that interfere with the development of respiratory issues such as COPD. He says this indicates there will be lower rates of COPD, but marijuana smokers are still at risk for chronic bronchitis, which means they tend to have increased cough and mucus. The study didn't look at the risk of lung cancer. And Tashkin cautions about drawing overall conclusions from the new work: Were only talking about one end point. Were not looking at lung cancer, chronic bronchitis symptoms. We are not looking at other effects, behavioral effects. We are looking at lung function. The Associated Pr ess contr ibuted to this r epor t. Does this change how you feel about pot use? Tell us on Facebook. Mor e fr om Vitals: All that str ess is shr inking your br ain, study finds Donating your body to science? No one wants a chubby cor pse Another r eason dogs r ule: They know w hat you'r e thinking Risk of hear t attack jumps 21 times after loved one's death Explore related topics: featured, marijuana, pot-smoking, lung-capacity
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odium 44
"...the risk of addiction..." - yeah right. it was harder for me (with more side-effects) to quit drinking Coca-Cola than it was to stop smoking pot.
#1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:30 PM EST
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W M G-21
Its not a decision about lung health, its all the other issues: Okay.... the risk of addiction, Marijuana is not physically addictive and has no withdrawal symptoms... so what addiction? an increase in the chance of having accidents The Department of Transportation concluded that marijuana's effect on people's driving skills was comparable to over the counter medicines. I'm not sure this is a pertinent concern... and social functioning." I think we're in the clear... most people tend to be more sociable when they've loosened up a bit with some grass-- less tendency to be violent too. So... green light?
#1.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:48 PM EST
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U nitedSta tes1776
For crying-out-loud just legalize this plant of nature. The whole myth about marijuana has been completely busted. The human race has used marijuana for thousands of different purposes for the past hundred thousand years. That is until 1934 when some government genius got the bright idea that they could use marijuana prohibition as a way to discriminate against minorities. LEGALIZE AND TAX NOW !! .
#1.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:52 PM EST
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y a kfitguy
Right US. This country has NO RIGHT to call itself a free nation as long as ridiculous laws like the prohibition against pot are in effect.
#1.3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:20 PM EST
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Ky ot
You know, thinking about it I don't think it is right to tax MJ if/when it is legalized. Bastards have to tax everything?
#1.4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:23 PM EST
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I ndiePa r ty
Agreed, just legalize it. I don't smoke it myself, but I am appalled at the amount of money our government spends (wastes) prosecuting users. I'm even more shocked at the lost revenue potential of not taxing it. Legalize and tax.... A simple way to cut spending AND raise tax revenue. Cigarettes are more dangerous, and people love raising the taxes on those. Treat this the same way.
#1.5 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:24 PM EST
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Lor d of Tr uth a nd Rea son shecoff

Marijuan's bad.... mmm'kay.
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Nonetheless, I feel it my civic duty to protect the American public from the evils of THC... SOOOOOOO: next study you guys do that you need someone who smokes on a REAL regular basis, get ahold of me. I'll smoke a zip a day for 20 years to help my brothers and sisters learn the dangers of this big nasty green monster. muhahahaha ;-D
#1.7 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:27 PM EST
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D G_ W
That is until 1934 when some government genius got the bright idea that they could use marijuana prohibition as a way to discriminate against minorities. Yep. And it's idiotic that pot is a Class 1 controlled substance while cocaine and meth are Class 2. Evidently there are some people who think Reefer Madness was an accurate documentary about pot, even though now it comes off as hilarious!
#1.8 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:29 PM EST
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a lim -28 10 0 59
Addiction has always been a ridiculous argument.
#1.9 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:31 PM EST
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I'm with US. Trust me, if they legalized and taxed the hell out of it, people would still buy it. The negative effects are minimal. But, I'm sure the gub'ment would rather you encounter an aggressive alcoholic as opposed to a mellow marijuanna smoker in a dark alley...
#1.10 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:33 PM EST
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Qw eenofhear ts
Agreed. The only "adverse effects" I experienced when quitting was a little bit of trouble winding down for sleep. Also, a reduced appetite, but as I am agreed on the $20/week cost of sour patch kids comment below, this was not a problem, but a bonus. I do have to say that when I was in full swing, I coughed up a lot of mucus and it was troubling at the time. I worried I was developing COPD, so good to know that I may have dodged that bullet. But I have been a user off and on (off right now) for 15 years and never have I been addicted. All that ever needed to be done was a decision to be made that I would be stopping for whatever reason for a period of time. I've never felt compulsion to get it. It seems that there is a lot of research being done and conclusions being drawn. I hope this is a sign of the times and it is legalized soon. @shecoff...OMG LMMFAO. Me too. 2 to 3 joints a month lol. How bout a night?
#1.11 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:33 PM EST
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Kim fr om M ich.
I am 100% with you United States1776. Look what alcohol does, people die, people fight, and God only knows what else when they are under the influence of alcohol. LEGALIZE AND TAX NOW !!!
#1.12 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:34 PM EST
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hum a nha ter

Lord of truth and reason i think you missed the point. Our freedom is only what the government will allow. Thats not FREEDOM.... well mabe if you a part of the sheep herd it is?
#1.13 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:34 PM EST
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Kor nfed
Its not a decision about lung health, its all the other issues: the risk of addiction, an increase in the chance of having accidents and social functioning. In other words, they are asking you not to pay attention to the science, but to the propaganda associated with marijuana! Remember, its the gateway drug! haha. The "man" never ceases to amaze me in its stupidity. God gave us this plant for a reason, embrace it!!!!!!
#1.14 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:36 PM EST
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Silly Shr inks

And I shall to that that I don't know many who were in accidents while smoking marijuana but I can counton both hands friends and assocaites who have been in accidents while drunk. Hence the statement in the article was false.
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I also know of someone who was told that their cancer was inoperable and that it would continue to grow. He began to smoke marijuana to deal with the pain and side effects-----the cancer was gone 18 months later and remains gone today. It has been said that the THC component in marijuana functions as a natural antiinflamatory which is why it relieves the pain of glacoma, PMS, Chemo, Cancer, arthritis, gout, etc. It is only those who refuse to accept it as a medicinal herb that prevent those in need from bennefitting from such while also the eliminating the taxes that could potentially get this country out of dept.
#1.15 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:36 PM EST
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The study is incomplete. Marijuana does NOT apparently lead to emphysema the leading COPD, although it might lead to chronic bronchitis. And the researchers said they did NOT study any lung or throat cancers that might be related to smoking marijuana. Personally, I think marijuana should be legalized, and harder drug USAGE should be decriminalized and such users should be treated as having a disease (check out Portugal's experience with this method of handling drug usage, especially the dramatic DECREASE in teenage drug using). But, we should NOT think of pot as harmless.
#1.16 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:39 PM EST
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M Tpolitico
This just in! "Hostess Brands, maker of Twinkies, Ho-Hos and Ding Dongs, is on the verge of filing for bankruptcy protection" Another unintended victim of the War on Drugs? Save the Twinkie. Legalize MJ now.
#1.17 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:41 PM EST
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D a vid W alker
Pot lovers!!!! Time out! First things first. Let's remove Cannabis as a Schedule 1 drug. This designation came courtesy of law enforcement, which has a vested interest in its prohibition. (Actually, marijuana itself is not illegal. It has everything to do with tax stamps at the federal level. It's utterly ridiculous.) I can't begin to describe the phenomenal success of the War on Drugs. Thousands dead, hundreds of thousands in prison. Makes me want to get loaded just thinking about smart cops. Regardless, being a Schedule 1 drug means it cannot be examined in a scientific fashion. While this evidence shows it may not hurt lung capacity, it says nothing about the cardiovascular system. We know it raises blood pressure. That's not exactly a good thing. We need to know all about this plant, especially in light of the fact that we also know it has wonderful medicinal properties. Legalization and/or decriminalization also means increased government revenues along with huge cuts in government expenditures. Additionally, cannabis has enormous potential in other economic areas. I could write much more about this, but the crumbs from my brownie keep getting in my keyboard, and this all seems so silly.
#1.18 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:44 PM EST
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Kor nfed
I will volunteer to be a marijuana lab rat for as long as it takes to help humanity.
#1.19 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:49 PM EST
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Joe-10 7260 1
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odium, why did you stop for? I love this article, it reminds me, I better start rolling one for my 8:pm buzz-on, before I go to bed. That stuff is the best sleeping medicine out there.
#1.20 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:49 PM EST
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D onkey H oty
The biggest overlooked factor: not only is it harmless it is extremely helpful. How? The roots of this plant can be used to make almost anything you can think of. Fuel, textiles, building materials, auto parts, the list is really incredible. The real reason it was lobbied into an unlawful status is for these reasons I have posted. It could virtually replace the need for oil and logging and that will piss off some people( 1%) and even less really. Yea legalize it but don't do like they have in the states where it is medical and where possession of the roots is still illegal. Hmm wonder why? Not! Legalize it and utilize it because it really is a miracle plant. Our forefathers agreed with me. I have stopped smoking it personally been about 2 years and I stopped smoking cigarettes about the same time. I still dream about cigarettes and crave them. the only time I crave weed is when I need to forget how ridiculous people can be. Nicotine and alcohol deserve the evil status. Pot? AYFKM???
#1.21 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:49 PM EST
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Kor nfed
Not one argument against it. The will of the people being represented once again!
#1.22 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:55 PM EST
23 votes
noiw onty esiw ill

Legalization would screw the Mexican Drug Cartels royally. They have more profit in Pot than any other drug.
#1.23 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:07 PM EST
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noiw onty esiw ill

BTW, Gary Johnson former Gov of New Mexico is and has been for the legalization of pot. The GOP would not let him in on the debates even when he had higher % of some of those they let in on the 1st debates....did not like his stance on Pot
#1.24 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:09 PM EST
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Rw Eva ns
I'm pretty much straight edge, but addressing the issue of pot...there is no greater killer than alcohol, there is no one single substance that kills more people every year. Pot should be legal and using the same regulations for beer and wine as well as cigarettes and tax the snot out of it and and we would have our national debt paid in 18 months. Is it addictive...Of course it is, anything that can change moods or alter one's mental state can be addictive. I use to smoke pot years ago and i loved the feeling, smoking a cigarette afterwards and having that lingering scent, the taste in my mouth. If video games can be "addictive", cleaning, sex, or whatever, then yes its addictive.
#1.25 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:10 PM EST
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Sta n-1518 70 3
The gov't will not leaglize it, because you're putting it in the wrong terms. It must be legal to own and smoke. But, illegal to grow. That way the gov't can say who is licensed to grow it. Only approved corporate entities like tobacco companies or liquor companies. We can't let people grow their own, free of taxes and regulations (the GOP's favorite buzzwords). This way you can buy it for, like, $10 a joint (99.8% taxes, of course). The drug cartels remain in business, so the drug enforcement folks still make their money off the MJ "interdiction" racket, etc.
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Then let the gov't know that MJ is the greatest public mental diversion since the invention of television (especially Fox "News") and they'll be on board for the "regulation" of MJ. This makes it a win-win for everybody. Except those that don't want to pay $10 a joint, of course, for a product that costs less than 10 cents to make. Now, there's a plan for legalization.
#1.26 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:14 PM EST
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y a kfitguy
Lord of Truth and Reason: The prohibition against pot is a violation of the 4th Amendment. The government has no right to call us free when they regulate our social behavior. It was wrong when they enacted the prohibition on alcohol and this is no different. "Life, Liberty, and Happiness" Remember that one?
#1.27 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:14 PM EST
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M r .E8 5
I am very interested in the responses on here... I am a smoker. It has lowered my blood pressure (so my doctor says), It has helped me to gain a few pounds seeing as I have a fast metabolism and have trouble gaining weight, I sometimes get small bursts of anxiety. At that point I smoke. It takes the anxiety away. I like to do resarch on marijuana. It's a time consuming hobbie That has virtually no cost, keeps me from doing things that could potentially cause trouble. These are just a few of many more positive effects "US" pot smokers have. In my opinion "which doesn't mean @!$%#" I have been an avid pot smoker for many years and have experienced no negative effects from the plant. Besides it being illegal. If you read this thanks for reading.
#1.28 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:21 PM EST
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Joe-10 7260 1
Heres something to think about thats never mentioned in almost all the articles I read on smoking pot (besides High Times magazine). Somehow THC releases the brains confined thoughts and I'm willing to bet that if pot was legal and people used it comfortable, theres going to be more discoveries and a all together different kind of living from it. I do believe that pot will bring out the artistic abilities of some people along with other similar ideas that will just add to the way of living we have today. I just believe life will be upgraded from it becoming legal in a mental sense of discovery and in many different fields of life. If you check now and see the things that have been discovered or made because of the inventors smoking pot, you'd be surprised. So let them thoughts and ideas grow and bloosum.
#1.29 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:26 PM EST
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ta kena ka
While everyone here including right wing nuts seems to be in favor I need to say there is a possibility of an adverse reaction to getting high on pot. I have trouble believing none of you have ever gotten paranoid and lost control after smoking some high grade bud. It doesn't happen often but most frequent users I know have lost control before. I am just asking has it never happened to internet users?
#1.30 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:28 PM EST
Robin Steele
DG, if you have watched Reefer madness (there are 3 versions BTW), in at least the version it starts with a disclaimer that says basically that it is unsubstantiated BS. When you allow religion and politics to mix, the result is totalitarianism every time.
#1.31 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:28 PM EST
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lolfa tty ner dsw hoknew

Noiwont - You know that Ron Paul is in favor of legalizing marijuana, right? Yet somehow he's managing to place in the top 3 candidates. Taneka - We call those allergic reactions. Some people have them to peanuts.
#1.32 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:29 PM EST
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Kor nfed
Somehow THC releases the brains confined thoughts and I'm willing to bet that if pot was legal and people used it comfortable, theres going to be more discoveries and a all together different kind of living from it. Carl Sagan has some fascinating things to say about his experience with Marijuana...the man loved it. As most of you know, Sagan is the creator of the brilliant series, "The Cosmos" His books are also brilliantly written, with an outstanding perspective on just about anything he talks about.
#1.33 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:46 PM EST
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JeCgos
Ok, so I dont see what the fear people have of legalizing pot. Maybe its bad, maybe its not, but if it has any negative effects on society then they are not worse than that of alcohol. tens of millions of Americans use it in any given year, even though it is illegal. This means that all we are doing to enforce this law is not helping, so whats the point? I really dont think that there will be that much more people who are going to be smoking it if it were legal then if it were illegal. At least we could cut off alot of money to criminals if we were to legalize it, and the government could get some taxes and save money from enforcement. This is really an issue of personal choice, it is not something that i see the government should be involved in, as long as it does not directly harm other people it is none of the governments business. Maybe it does effect society, but people are just as smart as the government in making this decision for themselves. The governments purpose is not to be our babysitter... smaller gov, legalize pot... is there a political party out there for me? lol
#1.34 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:51 PM EST
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Joe-10 7260 1
takenaka, I can't say I ever lost control smoking weed, but I do know what your talking about, because I have friends that did. So I have to agree with you on this. Like anything, too much at once is no good. See I think thats why I was able to stay in control when I smoked, I was patient and waited to see how it worked, instead of just continuing smoking til I couldn't move. Now I do remember other things happening to me when I smoked some really good pot, sex, yep, sex was incredible when I was high. Pot actually enhances the feelings from sex. There were times I had sex and it was more like marathon sex than sex. With me, I bought from friends and when my friends told me it was good pot, I believed them and I was patient with the buzz. You can always smoke more to adjust the high your looking for, but you can't take and smoke less after you already smoked more. So believe the person you bought the stuff from when they tell you its good but its a slow creeper, give it a little more time and before you even realize it, you'll be stoned holding the joint, wondering what happened, lol. Ahh those were the days. A friend with weed is a friend indeed.
#1.35 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:51 PM EST
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Sw a ggana ut
how about this. nowhere in the US constitution does it give the authority to the federal government to tell private citizens what they can and cant consume (we are free citizens right?). it it not the job of the federal government to protect an individual citizen (from themselves) within its jurisdiction but to provide for the common defense of the Union and protect states from domestic violence (state vs state/insurrection). Article the sixth [Amendment IV] The right of the people to be secure in their persons............... is what prevents the government from telling us what to
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eat/drink/smoke/inject/etc. we have the right to make decisions for ourselves and our bodies..... and pay any consequences for mistakes made from those decisions. the reason why cannabis is illegal has to do with keeping a cheap, easy to grow versatile plant from putting whole industries out of business (money). the plant has so many uses and is so easy to grow that it could replace most of what things are made with. cannibis has a use for just about anything. the only way they could get anti-marijuana laws passed was to use a scapegoat (mexicans) rather than tell the people the real reasons they lied and blamed mexicans and blacks. the "studies" they had was all fake/doctored/misleading and nothing the government said was truthful but through fear and propaganda the government banned cannabis and labeled it a sch1 drug to make sure it would stay illegal. the marijuana tax stamps were the first effort to make cannabis illegal without the wording but failed so they did what ant totalitarian government would, they lied to us. the only thing that should be illegal with regards to any drug is the sell to minors and committing a crime while on drugs. drugs can and should be monitored by the FDA for QA but beyond that its the responsibility of the user to be sure they have good drugs and know how to properly use and cope with the effects. drugs abusers should be dealt with on a society level not government shackles. taxes should be based on the same tax structure of any business and/or independent worker, not punitive based on the whims of the politician or voter. just stop telling people what to do with their own lives, you didn't give me life and for damn sure aint gonna be controlling it!
#1.36 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:53 PM EST
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I have said it countless times, til I'm blue in the face it's NOT about the pot it's about OUR fundamental liberties, OUR rights and freedom. It's like this, if I wanted to wear two left shoes (I know this sounds silly, but the parallel of the illustration is the same) but the government said No you can't wear two left shoes you are offending a certain group of people. And I ask them how am I offending this group and the government said that doesn't "fit" into there taste of there religion plus it's bad for your right foot. First of all it is MY right foot and second of all how can I "offend" them if I am in the privacy of My own home. Hell, if I wanna be a dumba$$ and hurt my right foot and walk around looking silly well it's MY right foot Nobody Else's. It makes no sense for a plant to be illegal. If I am at home by myself smoking minding my own business somebody please tell me how in the fkng hell am hurting you, my neighbor, society our country's security or anything or anyone? The one reason to me that it is illegal although there are a few others is CONTROL!!! They have no INTELLIGENT or SANE REASON for to be illegal!!! Actually the United States government is being most extremely immature,petty and childish in keeping it illegal!!!! It is Your body you are a grown A$$ adult You own You not the government!!!!!!!!!!!!! They do not OWN us!!!!!!!!!! So why in the hell are we putting up with their bllsht!!!!!!!!! I was thought that we were a SELF governing nation!!!!!!!!!!!! WE THE PEOPLE!!!!! You wouldn't let me come into Your house and tell you: Hey change that channel I don't like that show or don't cook that meal I don't like it!!! Yet you let the government come into your house and tell you what you can and cannot put into YOUR body!!!!!!!!!! That is the same as an employee telling the business owner how to run his Own business and what he can and cannot do with his OWN business!!!!!
#1.37 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:54 PM EST
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Joe-10 7260 1
My honest opinion on this, I think its more harmful to be republican than it is to smoke pot. Look at the posts tonight, nice pleasant conversations/debates, no bickering, no arguing with some people that did smoke pot in their day or some that still do and some that quit. So for me, I'm thinking its more harmful being a hard right conservative, than it is to fire a doobie up. Peace.
#1.38 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:10 PM EST
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oldm a n y oung ey es
Experimented with pot when in college. When Igraduated, I quit experimenting. Now I am into full scale research. Findings: in 40 years, I have never seen two stoned people fight. Music lasts longer. Sex lasts longer. Munchies create jobs.
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#1.39 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:18 PM EST
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Kor nfed
Joe, I am a conservative that hates the establishment for just these reasons. How can you speak of freedom when you oppress people socially as Republicans do. They emphasize financial freedom while doing a complete reversal when it comes to social issues. I am completely disgusted with both parties, and pray that Ron Paul runs 3rd party.
#1.40 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:18 PM EST
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m oonbea m r a cer
It's about time! ......... now the supporters come crawling out of the woodwork! lol
#1.41 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:25 PM EST
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Joe-10 7260 1
Stan1518703, If pot was legalized and cost $10.00 a joint, then that wouldn't put the Mexican drug cartel out of business. It would have to be reasonably priced so people wanted to pay for it legally instead of buying it cheaper from the drug cartel. Who knows, there just might be a different drug cartel from it being legal. I'm going to assume that a lot of people will try growing it, all kinds of farmers will pop up everywhere from it becoming legal. Well that would just bring in a lot of money too. If your growing it and you get busted growing it, you get fined and the township you live in gets the money. Once again another win, win situation from pot being legal. I would think even the fines for it would have to be sensable too, this way people take the chance growing it and if they get caught they get fined and thats how the cities the people live in make money. Maybe a general fine for growing it and then something like $20.00 a plant for growing it. So you get a citation for lets say, $250.00 just for getting caught then a additional $20.00 a plant, so if you get caught wit 10 plants its an extra $200 on top of the original $250. I think thats reasonable and a lot of people would take the chance growing some and thus we old and young hippies take and pull our country out of the red and put it back in the black, in half the time our politicians would.
#1.42 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:32 PM EST
4 votes
Joe-10 7260 1
Kornfed, I couldn't agree with you any more about this. Freedom, should be freedom and theres been a lot of good comments about that on here tonight. I hope the government dosen't think that pot smokers will eventually want to overthrow them, firing Oreo cookies at them. Yes, I have to agree with everyone of the comments about our freedom made in here tonight. Have a great night.
#1.43 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:38 PM EST
6 votes
EROCK17
Somehow THC releases the brains confined thoughts and I'm willing to bet that if pot was legal and people used it comfortable, theres going to be more discoveries maybe so, but putting said discoveries into motion is another story all together lol
#1.44 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:39 PM EST
4 votes
Joe-10 7260 1
Kornfed; I'm excited to fire up that joint tonight that I forgot to say what I initially wanted to say to you. I was referring more toward the hard right conservatives in that post and trying to be a little funny too. I'm thinking we're a lot alike when it comes to voting. I'm registered a dem and I'm not going to go change it now at my age, but I'll vote for the best person that I think is running. I have been doing this for years. I know you don't have to switch parties to vote for who you want too, the only thing I
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miss out on is picking the candidate. Now in the past, I didn't think this made too much of a difference in the outcome of who ended up being the candidate. Now this year it might of made a difference, because I'm thinking there just might be a lot of dems out there that would of voted for Ron Paul. Its not over yet, so we'll see what happens. To be honest with you, out of all the people running this time, Ron Paul just might be the best one. Ok, later, got to run for a bit. Have a good one.
#1.45 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:50 PM EST
4 votes
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Finally people are starting to believe what the pot smokers have been saying for DECADES. And now studies being done at UCLA and elsewhere are confirming that not only is weed NON-carcinogenic, but that it is actually ANTI-carcinogenic for certain specific cancers. The implication being that pot-only smokers would actually have LESS instances of lung cancer than even the general population, not just the cigarette smokers. It is only an implication at this point because the specific cancers where they've proven this have not been lung cancer. (yet?)
#1.46 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:52 PM EST
4 votes
Kor nfed
Maybe Ron Paul can be the compromise that we are all looking for... Take care Joe
#1.47 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:53 PM EST
9 votes
Joe-10 7260 1
EROCK17; Maybe with a little help from our friends, putting those ideas into motion just might work. Lol. Later.
#1.48 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:55 PM EST
4 votes
Toosa no
Potheads are just, well, potheads.
#1.49 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:56 PM EST
1 vote
Ba r r y -411365
I would like to pose a question to the religious among us: isn't making a plant illegal kind of like giving the middle finger to God?
#1.50 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:00 PM EST
11 votes
Lor d of Tr uth a nd Rea son

humanhaterYou're comment is funny. Looking at the USSR, did we determine their level of freedom based SOLELY on marijuana legalisation? Did we do so for Germany? Cambodia? NK? No. There are far more important factors in dtermining whether or not a populace is free, and if you'd like to post some relevant commments regarding that query, I'd be happy to debate you on them. Beyond that, peace and good day.
#1.51 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:04 PM EST
1 vote
Get a Clue-19 99773

It has always been about money and control. This was supposed to be a free country. We are so used to being lied to by our government that we are no longer outraged that the people we elect to represent us could lie to us for personal gain. Even among those who know the truth, there is this idea that it should be taxed at a rate higher than tobacco or alcohol. California wanted a $60 an ounce tax!
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The reason the legalization of Marijuana failed to pass with such a narrow margin in California is because the growers and sellers voted against it. The State tried to take over the industry and hand it to the corporations, cutting out the very people who pioneered the industry. It is always about money and control. Never mind that everyone should have the right to grow their own, just like George Washington.
#1.52 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:09 PM EST
6 votes
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D oobie M cTr ippin

I've seen Christians drink alcholic beverages and then condemn Marijuana. Well I got one question for you Christians. Man made booze, God made Pot, who do you trust? Legalize Gods plant if you truly believe that there is a God.
#1.53 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:52 PM EST
9 votes
D er ek-38 10 97
It sounds like another crackpot study. I'll wait for the second study on this and be willing to be proven wrong, but the last touted study by the Cult of Pot was thrown out, and the Cult is still touting it. I'm not against legalizing pot, just the Cult of Pot which has more in common with Christian radical evangelists than they would ever admit to. You don't have to hype pot or use selective science to either say you like it, or want it legalized. And very much like your typical radicals, they believe in science, but only when it supports their point of view. They readily throw it out the window when it doesn't. Worse, they fund inaccurate and biased studies. Now if this proves to be a real study, and it is backed by others, good. There's nothing wrong with actual science. But actual science doesn't decide what result it wants first. We'll see where this is headed.
#1.54 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:27 PM EST
Justm e-123
I'm with Derek up above. This study was done by al-Qaeda to weaken us before they invade Oklahoma and impose Sharia law on America!! Pot is highly addictive and is a gateway drug of the most Satanic sort and if you smoke it even twice you will almost immediately become addicted to heroin and LSD and become homosexual!!!! What? I'm completely insane? Oh, sorry. Never mind.
#1.55 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:01 PM EST
12 votes
D er ek-38 10 97
Lol! Are you?
#1.56 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:00 AM EST
2 votes
Justm e-123
Derek, it rather depends on whom one asks, I suppose! You asked me, so I'll have to admit to being stark, raving sane. But how many who really are whacko realize it and would admit it?
#1.57 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:26 AM EST
3 votes
Oom Ya a qub
My honest opinion on this, I think its more harmful to be republican than it is to smoke pot
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some of the earliest and most outspoken and articulate proponents of legalizing pot just happened to be Republican, the late William F. Buckley for one. Perhaps you've noticed that Ron Paul is pro-legalization and President Obama is NOT. In fact some of the most loathsome haters of marijuansa have been Democrats, e.g., Pat Schroeder, who wanted women in combat, but god help any pacifist who just wants a joint in her own home. Please stop trying to make this into a partisan issue; it is a disgusting lie bordering on slander, and it won't wash.
#1.58 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:50 AM EST
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Its not a decision about lung health, its all the other issues: the risk of addiction, an increase in the chance of having accidents and social functioning. Everything in the above passage could be said with equal justice about alcoholic beverages. Actually I would fear a drunk driver much more than one who had just smoked a joint. The solution, of course, is to legalize it, and criminalize the inappropriate use. So when the cop tells you to blow into the breath analyzer, the device also measures the amount of THC present in your system. If you over a certain, tiny percentage, you're in trouble. If not, you get to proceed on your way. I don't smoke pot. But I see no reason for continuing to make possession and use a criminal act.
#1.59 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:58 AM EST
1 vote
Shukla ck
I don't smoke it nowadays, but I am for legalization. It's ridiculous the money we spend on controlling a substance that does not really need to be controlled in the first place. It's like spending millions prosecuting people for eating carrots...delicious delicious carrots... because some time back in the past a bunch of fat-cats in the cabbage industry decided to lobby (grease palms) against carrots and get them banned. We know it's bull, they know it's bull - so wtf and legalize it already.
#1.60 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:27 AM EST
6 votes
Fr a nk-6 690 22
Unitedstates1776, Why does it have to be taxed? Why can't it be legalized and sold in the produce department of grocery stores where it, tobacco and othe rplants should be sold?
#1.61 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:44 AM EST
4 votes
Pa m M ontgom er y
Kornfed....I have a question about Ron Paul. Since roughly 50% of voters are women....Why is Mr. Paul against birth control? Why does he want to ban it? When you talk about civil and social liberties, legalizing pot is the only natural recourse..HOWEVER, removing a woman's right to autonomy is NOT going to get him ANYWHERE near the White House. Do me a favor, next time he's talking about getting out of the middle east, suggest he get out our pants, too. Legalize pot... AND...legalize a woman's right to her body!!!
#1.62 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:09 AM EST
5 votes
Kor nfed
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Kornfed....I have a question about Ron Paul. Since roughly 50% of voters are women....Why is Mr. Paul against birth control? Why does he want to ban it? He has stated that he does not believe the Federal government should make law about the reproductive choices of American citizens. Go look it up. You are yet another example of what our media does to the opinions of Americans, deceitfully and with malice
#1.63 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:22 AM EST
5 votes
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the problem with legalizing pot is the government makes MORE money though confiscated FUNDS than it would EVER make though TAXING sales. to illustrate lets say pot is $20 per Gram and the drug enforcement captures 10% of the money being moved....that 10% of $20 if legalized threw competition the price will drop lets say $10 per gram and tax is 8%.....that's 8% of $10 far less money for the feds to have ....and its all about the money in this country
#1.64 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:29 AM EST
2 votes
m oonbea m r a cer
It's real Simple .... all we have to do is ........................................................ "I will not vote for any politician that opposes the legalization of Marijuana " spread the word .... oppose marijuana legalization and lose!"
#1.65 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:32 AM EST
5 votes
CBa it
oomyaaqub - OMG! I feel so sorry for YOU. Ya can't even take a joke. The comment about right wing republicans was intended to be funny, not serious. For gods sakes, light one up, and lighten up.
#1.66 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:35 AM EST
4 votes
Lusita nia
This is good news for the Baby boomers, during their era from wood stock through all the musicians in Fleetwood Mac have smoked more bud than any other generation after and beyond combined..
#1.67 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:42 AM EST
3 votes
Pa m M ontgom er y
Kornfed...I just googled the question....Is Ron Paul against birth control? PAGES came up...PAGES!!! He has stated that access to birth control is an affront to Christianity and has signed on the Santorum's band wagon on that issue! Since my C&P is note behaving, and since the content is too voluminous...I just suggest that anyone interested just google the question...including you. As a woman, there is NOTHING malicious about my question, and deceitful about my wanting to know the truth. Bringing this into the light is the most honest thing I can do......Since your C&P seems to be fine, perhaps you can post his quote's on the opposition to Santorum's lunacy. PLEASE! Prove me wrong!!!
#1.68 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:42 AM EST
3 votes
D er ek-38 10 97
@Justme, then I totally approve of your faux insanity. Made me laugh in a good way.
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#1.69 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:49 AM EST
Kor nfed
Abortion and Birth Control:
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Opposes Roe v. Wade. Opposes all federal laws banning or restricting abortion and birth control, believing that these are matters relegated to state control under the Tenth Amendment.
Source...About.com His personal beliefs are of course anti abortion.
#1.70 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:02 AM EST
Pa m M ontgom er y
Kornfed....I have been on the fence about Dr. Paul. It has been this issue that has made me reconcider my vote. There was a time when Dr. Paul might have had this view, ( What was the time line for this statement? ) But recently, he seems to have changed his position. You had a chance to actually win a vote here, but I cannot vote for Dr. Paul in light of his adoption of Santorum's policies. (Which are a current development). WTF is he thinking?! As a Ron Paul supporter, you should be concerned about his stance on this issue, and how it will affect his overall electibility. If you could, please, post a current statement about his opposition to Santorum's will to ban birth control..(BTW, we are NOT discussing abortion here...we are talking about banning oral contraceptives...) From a woman's point of view, and being conservative enough to know I cannot afford to have a child every year, and smart enough to know that if I cut my husband off from sex because of it.....well, you get the picture. Giving you another shot at this. Remember, if you are trying to win votes for Dr. Paul, these are issues you are going to have to address. Not everyone who questions Dr. Paul's platforms are trying to submarine him...we're just trying to figure out where he stands on issues like this...
#1.71 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:20 AM EST
7 votes
m qir a
@ Lord of truth and reason You said: "So you want to base freedom on whether or not pot is legal? wow....." First of all, why is it that someone with some sort of reference to god, or religion does not seem to grasp reality....maybe because you whole life is based on a lie. No one is basing freedom on whether pot is legal or not.....however the fact that pot is illegal goes to show how un-free we are. Why would the gov't make a natural plant, herb, free medicine illegal???? That right there shows how unfair the law is....There are many other reasons we are not free...for example, the Patriot Act, NDAA are 2 very big reasons. Marijuana is one of the many, but the fact that the gov't doesnt listen to over 50% (i beleive it is somewhere in the 70 or even 80 percent) of Americans who feel it shoud be legal. So if this is a sountry where "we the people" have some sort of influence...Imagine one "law maker" determined that roses were illegal...would that
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make sense? If tobacco kills so many people and marijuana does not (remember, there has been not 1 case of death from marijuana) kill people....why is mj illegal and tobacco is not, does it really seem like the govt really cares about the people......for GOD sakes, NO!
#1.72 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:38 AM EST
2 votes
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M SD N C
"Lord of Reason" -- yes, it absolutely does have to do with freedom. You can't claim to be a completely free country if you allow the government to dictate what you can and cannot put into your own body.
#1.73 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:10 AM EST
3 votes
Pa m M ontgom er y
It's OK, kornfed....I looked hard myself, even went to his website several times looking for his platform. I am very sorry that he had to jump on the Santorum bandwagon..makes him seem like he cares about everyones right to liberty, except WOMEN. I think it's awesome that he wants to legalize....but saying it and doing it are two different things. (Have we learned nothing?) I sincerely believe that legalization is on it's way. Note the articles and documentaries on the subject lately? Something we would have never seen even 5 years ago. Legalization is coming. But to throw away someone else's liberties for the sake of your own isn't the way to go about it. We must make our voices loud and clear for EVERYONE'S civil and social liberties. I think it's admirable that you are such a staunch supporter, but the bigger picture here is the trade off. Women WILL be viewed as second class citizens when the government starts infringe on their reproductive rights.... Santorum is a sexually preoccupied, mysogenistic whack job, and I'm very disappointed that Dr. Paul thinks this is a valid platform. If he doesn't disassociate himself from this flake...he will lose. That is gospel.
#1.74 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:30 AM EST
2 votes
m ike-4 64493
The only real side effects of smoking weed are the munchies and buying stupid stuff you don't need from late night TV commercials. Legalize it as a stimulant for the economy. Increased pizza deliveries and orders for Shake Weights alone will create lots of new jobs.
#1.75 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:11 PM EST
2 votes
m qir a
@Toosano Potheads are just, well, potheads. #1.49 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:56 PM EST And ignorant people are well....just ignorant! But also.... Potheads are presidents Potheads are musicians Potheads are Entertainers Potheads are Business owners Potheads are Mayors Potheads are Billionaires Potheads are Millionaires
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Potheads are actors Potheads are Innovators Care to debate? Need Proof? Just ask, i will give you exacts! Please do not be ignorant! Because stupid people are well...stupid!
#1.76 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:34 PM EST
8 votes
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Sever ed H ea d in a Ja r
Somehow THC releases the brains confined thoughts and I'm willing to bet that if pot was legal and people used it comfortable, theres going to be more discoveries and a all together different kind of living from it. Not so sure about this. I've had some breakthrough ideas while stoned, but when I came down...
#1.77 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:34 PM EST
Pa m M ontgom er y
mqira....well said!!! Very well said indeed!!!
#1.78 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:27 PM EST
D oobie M cTr ippin

All these "anti-drug laws are illegal to begin with. They are unconstitutional so the "anti-druglaws" are against the constitution and therefore the law. So who gave those FOOLS the right to place themselves above the law and the constitution and write illegal laws to to CONTROL us FREE Americans!!! I know my ancestors, parents nor I wouldn't and didn't, so who did?!!! No one has the right or privilege to go against the constitution ever! PERIOD!!! The government is waaaaaaaaaaay over stepping their authority!!! The last I checked it was we the people who were the BOSS and NOT the other way around!!! I would like to know when we the people are going to quit being so gullible and stop believing their LIES!!!! They lie to us about everything and make jokes about there not being any politicians yet when they tell us about marijuana then all of a sudden they all become these angels of honesty and don't LIE, bllsht dmbA$$!!! Duh, don't you think that if they LIE about everything else that they would lie about Pot, especially Pot. They are laughing their a$$e$ off at us. They are laughing at you!!! It doesn't matter if you are conservative or liberal, democrat or republican it is the same scenario. They tell us what they think we want to hear to tickle our ears and make us feel good just so we will vote for them and then do whatever the hell they want after they are in office. It happens every time 100% without fail. This government has turned into the very thing that our forefathers fought against in the 1700s. We Need to FORCE them to pass a law that if they lie, tell a half truth, omit (fail to inform us in any way) or commit any dishonest act of any degree that is proven with evidence that they are to be FIRED instantly on the spot with zero chance of EVER serving in ANY public office of ANY kind!!! One other thing, it should also include their campaigns.
#1.79 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:39 PM EST
1 vote
D oobie M cTr ippin

Free the Weed!!! In the words of Teal'c from Stargate SG1: "Indeed"! Like a poster said (which, by the way is an awesome idea) above : any and ALL politicians that are even a tiniest bit against unconditional legalization vote them OUT!!! Vote only for those that are for T-totally UNconditional legalization!!!!!!
#1.80 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:49 PM EST
1 vote
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Jessica -1170 252

Kornfed - "leaving it to the states" is code speak, for "we know the good conservatives in most states, will do the right thing and ban abortion and contraception". Frankly, not all things should be left to the states...or most of this nation would still be hanging black people from the biggest tree, in the center of town...sometimes, just for sport. I dont live in a Utopia...and therefore, i've got no room for a guy like Ron Paul, who idoloized a sociopath and hypocrite, like Ayn Rand. END OF STORY.
#1.81 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:26 PM EST
3 votes
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H Chr is
I'm for legalization and regulation - however I do think Marijuana is addictive. Now before people jump all over me, I know it's not chemically addictive like alcohol or other drugs - but it is still habit forming. I've seen people who basically throw their lives away because they decided to get high all the time. I understand it's their choice and I think personal liberty is important which is why I'm for legalization. I've also seen people who smoke all the time and have no problems. I think it depends on the person. The people who develop a habit of smoking don't NEED another hit - they just want one. But that can still be a hard habit to break.
#1.82 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:10 PM EST
EROCK17
i agree. There are certain people with addictive personalities.
#1.83 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:11 PM EST
1 vote
FogOr a cle
The reason it's not legal has nothing to do with anything except, as this study proves, there are absolute health benefits to it. Hemp oil has been known for some time to do many wonderful things as a curative agent. One of them is curing cancer. Yea, someone will say 'There's not been any peer studies'. It seems like if something works there are no peer studies on it for a reason.
#1.84 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:18 AM EST
Ja ck-4740 34
Oh. i am sure the Feds will find something screwy about the test results,,,
#2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:33 PM EST
31 votes
w r ench-20 31930
The Feds will pump a bunch of lies & propaganda to reinforce their stand (Creel Commision tactics). The Big Bro has created an industry around pot and must maintain the jobs now! People and their children have become a commodity to be used and abused by law enforcement and child welfare offices.
#2.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:28 PM EST
26 votes
SLU V E
This is a lame study... need much more extreme conditions..... I'm 18 and I rip bong every day sometimes a lot each day.... so I'm a "pothead" I have been doing this for 2-3 years..every day.. I also am an athlete and I have been lifting consistently never stopping for over 3 weeks for 4 years... my lungs are efficient and I never have issues whether I am extreme mountain biking, lifting, running, or swimming. I am in better shape than 99% of people I encounter, and I also smoke WAY more weed than 99% of people I encounter.
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We need to legalize immediately. If you don't want to smoke pot, don't. But I am sick of having to deal with the garbage that goes hand in hand with danks being illegal.
#2.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:38 PM EST
24 votes
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m issr n
The feds are more than likely not going to say a damn thing about it and then cut funding to the institutions that sponsored or somehow support the study.
#2.3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:49 PM EST
11 votes
Oom Ya a qub
Unfortuantely, missrn, you are probably correct. It's really sad that our leaders are so corrupt and gutless. Just heard on the radio that 17% of American adults binge drink; why don't they worry about THAT instead?
#2.4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:01 PM EST
10 votes
y a kfitguy
Well OomYaaqub, we wouldn't want to have to take down those warm, cozy Jack Daniels Christmas commercials would we?
#2.5 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:17 PM EST
7 votes
D ougCoe2220 1
My niece just got six months in the county jail for USE!!! The judge said she "was going to make an example out of her". It sucks living behind enemy lines, just a state away and it's nearly legal yet here they give the the electric chair for posession.
#2.6 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:28 PM EST
10 votes
Robin Steele
OomYaaqub- What do you want to bet that lawmaking and binge drinking go hand in hand?
#2.7 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:31 PM EST
4 votes
Oom Ya a qub
Quite possible. I think they should breathlyze the lot of them when they show up for work, and after lunch, too.
#2.8 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:54 AM EST
3 votes
Shukla ck
.. I also am an athlete and I have been lifting consistently never stopping for over 3 weeks for 4 years That's actually an important factor - if one stays active and fit - the adverse effects of inhaling smoke regularly will be very much minimized if non-existant. I'm a regular tobacco smoker, have been for over a decade - and up until the last couple years I was very physically active and fit. I had no real problems with smoking and breathing. But now that I'm not 'purging' that from my system and exercising, the negative effects seem to be catching up to me rather swiftly.
#2.9 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:32 AM EST
3 votes
Fr a nk-6 690 22
I don't think so, the Feds under Obama do not enforce the federal part of pot possession basically leaving it up to the states, which is good as this should be a state issue unless the Fed. wanted to completely decriminalize it, which would be
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great. Under W. so much fderal money was wasted prosecuting possession of pot charges. Simply the gummint should not be allowed to tell ree people what they can and can not put into their own bodies, I have not found any clause in the constitution that gives them such powers.
#2.10 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:48 AM EST
4 votes
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M or gs74
Unfortunately Frank he reneged on his campaign promises and started to federally shut down dispensaries in CA. Someone with money got to him again.
#2.11 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:46 AM EST
2 votes
M SD N C
I was going to point out the same thing but Morgs74 beat me to it. Obama went back on this promise and there was a story only a few months ago about the feds beginning to shut down a bunch of dispensaries in California.
#2.12 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:12 AM EST
1 vote
M m m M m m Beer
The problem is defining "the Feds," Congress under the CSA of 1970 placed marijuana the plant as a Schedule I controlled substance. Our Congress won't budge on this despite a myriad of evidence. However, the FDA ( the people who study food and drugs) realize the medical benefits of the active ingredient, and therefore THC and CBD extracts have been rescheduled from I in the 1970's, to II in 1985, and now cannabis-based pharmaceuticals are Schedule III....same as many other prescription pills. This is a perfect example of congress having too much power over issues they neither understand nor care to investigate.
#2.13 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:40 PM EST
1 vote
Sinister Phnx
Legalize!
#3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:42 PM EST
39 votes
N or Cal via Boston

And when it is, I'm going to buy stock in Frito-Lay, Inc. or whatever conglomerate now owns that company.
#3.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:25 PM EST
20 votes
Qw eenofhear ts
Buy it now. LOL They are already smoking it, more people than you would ever imagine. May I suggest stock in gummy candies of ANY sort? LOLOLOL
#3.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:39 PM EST
6 votes
D ua ne Gilber t
go vote
#3.3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:52 PM EST
11 votes
D onkey H oty
Hostess!!! Buy!
#3.4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:53 PM EST
7 votes
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M om m y O4
The feds have made the states afraid to legalize it. The fed's just need to be knocked back down a few pegs on the totem pole if you ask me and let the states do what they want. The feds were not supposed to have this much power we need to knock them off the high horse that they have placed them selves on so the states could do what the states were intended to do make laws based on the peoples wants and needs not the feds rules and regulations based on BS.
#3.5 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:13 PM EST
9 votes
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MOMMY, each state has it core cell of ultra-conservatives so most if not all states would keep it illegal to please them. Would you like to know why I think they're fighting so hard to keep it that way? Its not about effects on you or they belive all that propaganda they know is incorrect. Its because when you smoke pot you're being disobedient! That alone makes them rabid. Besides, if they backed off on pot laws, who know what freedoms people might ask for next?
#3.6 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:19 AM EST
5 votes
left-ha nded
This is to Justme up above. Either you smoke it and are lying or you don't smoke and don't know what the hell you are talking about, one or the other?????
#3.7 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:56 AM EST
1 vote
BD D
My doobie smoking bruddah will just be proud to know this!
#4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:44 PM EST
15 votes
Silly Shr inks

BDD comments such as yours are partially why so many are against it----#4.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:49 PM EST
2 votes
D avid-19 8 4932
Been smoking pot every day for 10 years and have yet to have experienced any adverse effects... unless you consider the $20 a week I spend on Sour Patch Kids to be an adverse effect.
#5 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:46 PM EST
45 votes
y a kfitguy
I bet you help keep the cereal companies in business too. Capn' Crunch at midnight is a heavenly thing.
#5.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:21 PM EST
22 votes
Qw eenofhear ts
Heavenly, yes. Only problem is, before you know it your peice of heaven gets bigger and bigger and bigger. You get the point. lol
#5.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:42 PM EST
3 votes
Kim fr om M ich.
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LOL about the cereal, I can almost eat a small box right around midnight, then maybe something salty alitle bit later. Gotta love them munchies. I used to weigh 100lbs and looked sickly, now I weigh about 125lbs and look good. Thank you Mary Jane!!
#5.3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:49 PM EST
10 votes
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dellm an
Been smoking pot since 1967 and I`ll take an IQ test against most 71 year old men like I am. You can take care of business when needed unlike alcohol.
#5.4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:52 PM EST
23 votes
Qw eenofhear ts
Call me when you get closer to 200 and we'll commiserate lol.
#5.5 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:54 PM EST
2 votes
m issr n
Since I started toking up nightly almost 8 years ago I lost 40lbs, got into the best shape of my life and and was able to maintain the weight loss after I fell off the fitness bandwagon. I also went back to college, got my RN and got the best grades of my life! Work has begged me to step into a higher position, but it's a road to slave labor so, I've opted to pass. Yeah, MJ is really a detriment to society.
#5.6 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:02 PM EST
13 votes
Jon-410 312
I`ve been smoking since 1967 as well, I`m 62 and also a cig smoker, quit smoking cigs for 6yrs and would run 5mi a day, everyday while off the cigs, back to smoking and have a hard time walking a block now..Had a wellness test a month ago, and complete physical 2mos ago, although I`m in the early stages of COPD, from years of Cigs, My blood pressure, cholostral, heart rate all in the brackets of a 20yr old... Pot is not agressive as alcohol, you don`t beat your kids and wife, don`t spend all your money at the bars, or kill people on the highways while driving drunk..I`ve told my kids I would rather see them smoking pot than drinking alcohol anyday..I wouldn`t have to worry so much for them while they are out at night.. Pot is NOT addicitive, I just quit one day because of random testing at a good job I have, quit for 6yrs without any adverse effects..People who say its an addictive drug only work for the government..and the medical uses it has are endless..I still smoke today and will continue until my lungs wont allow me too, but what will kill you faster than anything is those damn cigs, and the government just loves them, one of these days I will smarten up and quit the cigs and stop giving the government their cut and maybe add a few years to my life... Oh , and I am 5`8" and weigh 150lbs, and I do NOT drink alcohol and look pretty good for an old man... Time to fill the bowl and have a toke..whats that song? smoke two joints? great song...
#5.7 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:30 PM EST
14 votes
Robin Steele
David, I would be more concerned about diabetes...
#5.8 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:32 PM EST
1 vote
Ba r r y -411365
Jon, get a vaporizer, stat. You don't need to combust weed in order to inhale the vaporized THC. You get the effect of the THC without creating any carcinogens in your lungs. I recommend the Volcano. Just google it.
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#5.9 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:39 PM EST
4 votes
U p U r a nus
Capn' Crunch at midnight is a heavenly thing. I'm not a smoker, but I do agree with you on that one!
#5.10 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:14 AM EST
2 votes
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VIA FACEBOOK
Agree with Barry, but You dont need to spend that much for a volcano vaporizer, try one if you know somebody with it and see if its for you. There is a different type of vaporizer, Lazarus, that is about 1/10th the cost of that lovely volcano and use's about the same amount of power as a 100watt lightbulb, is simpler to use and allows a user to benefit from not "burning the bud" which is bad Mmm'K
#5.11 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:13 AM EST
3 votes
buckw hea t elvis

I've got a Volcano & use it now & then but I still prefer to bong. Been smoking since 1969, with some breaks in between. I'll agree that MJ is not physically addictive but I believe that it is psychologically addictive. Yesterday I wanted to smoke some but I used restraint & did not. I usually smoke MJ in the late afternoon & one bong is plenty for the day. I can easily not smoke MJ so the psychological addiction for me is marginal after 40 plus years.
#5.12 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:51 AM EST
3 votes
vk53
Pot helps my migraines and have probably much less harmful to my body than tylenol! Yay for this study!
#6 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:55 PM EST
37 votes
Sasha T
Mine too. In fact most "official" migraine meds don't work for me (or knock me out for like 7-10 hours so I lose a day anyway) but with pot my headache is gone and I'm functional again in like a half hour. Gladly take that over the flashing lights and pounding pain of a migraine.
#6.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:50 PM EST
12 votes
ca ny ongal56
I've been smoking more or less steadily for 40 years, though right now I'm abstaining because I'm job hunting... For most of my life I have had problems with asthma-like symptoms, where for no discernable reasons my airways will constrict and I can barely breathe, but I discovered years ago that a hit of pot relaxes my airways and allows me to breathe normally. It does such an excellent job that when I have one of these attacks my (adult) son automatically loads a bowl when I can't breathe.
#6.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:04 PM EST
11 votes
D isa bled Voter

Migraine suffers - Do you know if any studies have been done with cannabis and migraines? I'm a chronic migraine sufferer and I am always interested in looking for better therapies. Do you have to smoke it or can you bake it in brownies?
#6.3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:57 PM EST
4 votes
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Qw eenofhear ts
Yes, you can bake it into things and or make tea but it's cost prohibitive. That's why people smoke it. Good luck with your migraines. Can't say anything for migraines, but it sure as hell cured my normal headaches.
#6.4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:21 PM EST
4 votes
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nightw a lker
VOTER, They did do a study, and yes it does helps migraines. I don't know how much luck you'd have doing a brownie, though. With a full blown migraine, might be hard to eat it.
#6.5 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:35 AM EST
4 votes
D isa bled Voter

Qweenofhearts & nightwalker - Thanks for the information. Both of you have given me something to think about as I do more research. I never thought about brewing a tea, but that may be a good alternative. I'm not sure as why it is cost prohibitive to do so, but I'm sure as I research more, then I will find out. It was also a good point about eating with a full blown, but I'm hoping to find more data that deals with the onset of the headache. I have classic migraines with aura, and if I can catch the pain before it progresses, then that is most desirable. Thanks again for the help.
#6.6 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:05 AM EST
M SD N C
Count me among you. I've smoked practically every day for the past ten to fifteen years and I've been saying for years that it is more effective at getting rid of migraines and headaches than any sort of over-the-counter pain pill you can buy. As in it will be completely gone within five to ten minutes, typically. Disabled Voter, it is cost prohibitive because you normally have to use a LOT of it when baking it into things like brownies in order to feel any effects. It also will be a lot more "mellow" and will take a much longer amount of time for it to work since your body has to digest it whereas inhaling it into your lungs causes it to immediately enter your blood stream and hit your brain within a minute or two. Oh and I should maybe mention that I'm a registered Republican. This is one of several issues I disagree with my party over and I've been fighting for years trying to persuade representatives and candidates to change their position on the subject.
#6.7 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:17 AM EST
Em ily inI ow a
Voter - If you think you might need to use it regularly for your migraines I'd highly suggest investing in a vaporizer which make it much less harsh then using a joint or pipe. If that is too expensive though you should at least use a bong which you can make yourself modifying a pipe if you need to.
#6.8 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:21 PM EST
D isa bled Voter

MSDNC and EmilyinIowa - Thank you two for more information. You have both given me more things to consider. Anyone who has suffered with migraines can understand why migraine suffers would resort to anything to get relief. My neurologist once said, "Migraines may not kill you, but they sure as He## will make you wish you were dead." When a person gets desperate, they will do things they never dreamed of doing. Thanks Again to Everyone!
#6.9 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:22 PM EST
1 vote
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N a tur a l_ SciGuy
Interesting study, though I see a few problems with concluding that marijuana smoking "does not adversely affect pulmonary function." They evaluated the mechanical function of the lungs by measuring the volume of air that they could move in and out of the body. Marijuana smoking didn't harm this - that's great news. However, this study did not evaluate the effect of smoking marijuana on oxygen uptake or utilization, nor the accumulation of byproducts from the smoke in lung tissues - so take the good news with a sober, skeptical view. This isn't a green light to smoke the green, necessarily. The lungs' job is not simply to move air, but also assimilate it into the body, and I would be curious to see how marijuana might (or might not) affect metrics that measure this function. Cheers.
#7 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:09 PM EST
10 votes
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Great post and thoughtful insight.
#7.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:26 PM EST
2 votes
ifsa ndsa ndbutts

Not to mention, I doubt the cigarette smokers in the study kept their cigarette intake to 1 cigarette per day or 1 cigarette per week!!! I don't see how this is a fair comparison to cigarette smoking. Maybe they can compare the lung capacity of pot smokers who smoke 10-20 joints a day and get back to us about whether or not pot is or is not as bad for the lungs as tobacco... I would doubt that people who smoke 1 cigarette per day or week have much lung capacity impairment either. But, yeah, agreed on the fact that the study really does not cover that much ground. As it mentions, pot smokers are more susceptible to bronchitis (as are cigarette smokers) and probably a few other things that are unrelated to lung capacity.
#7.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:35 PM EST
1 vote
Qw eenofhear ts
You've clearly missed the part on how Marijuana is smoked in comparison. Not to mention all of the chemicals added to tobacco. Marijuana is just a dried plant with no chemicals or cacinogens added. Just sayin......
#7.3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:46 PM EST
13 votes
Kiufer
ifsandsandsbutts, i agree with you, this study is just on pot smokers that smoke 12x/day or month. cigarette smokers are usually more than that. they need to be studying pot smokers who smoke before they go to bed at night, first thing when they wake up in the morning and on their lunch break. duh.
#7.4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:52 PM EST
2 votes
Jtheo
To say that MJ has no carcinogens is completely innaccurate. Marijuana has more than 5 times the amount of tar of a cigarrette, but none of the OTHER stuff that is in cigarrettes.
#7.5 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:12 PM EST
1 vote
M a r k M cKee
Ask uh...Michael Phelps maybe??? or Paul McCartney who sang "yesterday" after 9/11, in the SAME KEY that he sang at the age of 20??? And don't forget, pot robs you of all your ambition, which also obviously pertains to Phelps & McCartney... whatever man, whatever...
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#7.6 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:25 PM EST
6 votes
N or ther nLights4M e
Vaporize, don't smoke, Vaporize Vaporize, baby, vaporize
#7.7 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:32 PM EST
6 votes
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killr oy -26 7510 5

What about smoking it in a water pipe (bong) with cold water and ice, or even snow for that matter. would the carcinogens be less? the smoke would be cool and the water or snow, just like a filter.
#7.8 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:08 PM EST
3 votes
Pa m M ontgom er y
Let's not forget Steve Jobs....inventor of the i-pad. Brilliant man, active, both phyically and mentally....and a total pot head. Seems to me, that in this country, we desperately need a renaissance of industry and great thinkers....
#7.9 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:31 AM EST
5 votes
M SD N C
Smoke 10-20 joints a day? You'd be comatose!
#7.10 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:22 AM EST
1 vote
I ndy Pa tr iot-1934313
Uhh, yeah....even heavy MJ smokers I know do not (read: can not) smoke 10-20 joints a day. That would be an excessive amount of weed. One of the reasons I believe pot isn't as harmful is simply because users do not have to smoke great quantities of it in order to reach the desired effect. In reality, when we compare it to a moderate tobacco smoker, say, 1/2 pack per day, a chronic user would still smoke far less in actual weight of substance than one would find in a typical pack of cigarettes. That being said, MJ smoke DOES contain far more tar in it, mainly the resins that contain the THC-9, than is found in tobacco. But again, if one is not smoking great quantities of the stuff, it's nearly a moot point. The best part is that cannabis is relatively safe and harmless. That does not mean that smoking it is "good for you", but simply that it is ridiculous to continue perpetrating the very government-sanctioned misinformation that has dominated the societal mindset for decades. Legalize it. Regulate its use accordingly (and appropriately). Praise this wonderful plant for all of its benefits (and its cousin, hemp!), and thank God above for giving us something to help take away life's sting at times.
#7.11 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:34 PM EST
chickenchickenbokbok
see, one more reason why the purple sticky punch is the only way to fly...
#8 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:18 PM EST
7 votes
silver ha w k63
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W hoknow s-1768 30 1
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Yes it is all ways good for the lungs to suck in smoke.

#10 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:21 PM EST
2 votes
N ikko-27998 18
dude are you an idiot?? re-read the article these are the type of people that really piss me off. you know nothing about it but are posting stupid comments. "Experts say that people shouldnt simply take the news as green light to get high, but should also consider other factors." of course sucking smoke down your lungs is not the greateset thing to do but it is saying it is a hell of a lot better for you than legal cigarettes that we pay taxes on and kill thousands of people a year!
#10.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:21 PM EST
5 votes
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N or ther nLights4M e
Don't smoke, vaporize or eat mj food.
#10.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:36 PM EST
2 votes
m kspea ks
Sorry, but I can't believe that sucking combustion byproducts into your lungs isn't somehow carcinogenic. Unless pot smoke is somehow radically different from tobacco smoke.
#11 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:21 PM EST
2 votes

BUt nowadays, logic and reason are secondary to what the "experts" tell us. And they didnt even test for carcinogenic qualities, so.... but hey, I'm not allowed to think for myself!
#11.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:28 PM EST
4 votes
Rich-30 50 148
Pot smoke is radically different than tobacco smoke. Tobacco smoke tests positive for radioactive material. Makes you wonder what they put in cigs. My best friends mother is the head Nurse in the pulmonary ward of a large hospital. I asked her outright if she's ever seen or treated a pot smoker for lung disease or cancer, and she said "no, never". She's worked there for 20+ years.
#11.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:35 PM EST
21 votes
Aly ssa r a y
ya stupid it is radically different. pot is a plant no tobacco rolled around in poisonous substances like cigarettes. My brother has a traumatic brain injury from the war and smoking weed has improved his brain function greatly. it doesnt hurt your body or lungs.
#11.3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:41 PM EST
12 votes
La cie-298 0 8 74
If you're going to think anything, you'd do better to listen to scientists and not misinformed, lying politicians who pander to your religious musings.
#11.4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:43 PM EST
17 votes
m ilw a ukee262
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Are you serious? Tobacco smoke is filled with carcinogenic material, tar, addictive nicotine, and probably aboud 150 other toxic additives that most of us have no clue what they are. Last time I checked marijuana had nothing added to it, not saying smoke is "healthy" for your lungs. But even comparing it to the harmful toxic product that is tobacco shows that you clearly don't have your facts straight...google the ingredients and chemicals that go into a cigarette you will find hundreds of toxic chemicals...as for pot, hm lets see? what goes into making marijuana, hmmmm dirt? water? photosynthesis? LOL give me a break....
#11.5 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:46 PM EST
13 votes
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D Ta tum
Yes.. logic and reason from experts is less important that the common taught beliefs of people like you... You're allowed to THINK for yourself... try doing that instead of relying on what someone told you when you were growing up. You might actually learn something.
#11.6 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:49 PM EST
4 votes
D onkey H oty
MK speaks more than thinks... I quit smoking both and cigarettes I still crave from time to time two FN years later... Weed only when I want to escape from the lack of reality people like yourself seem to spout. One is a natural plant. The other is a natural plant with so many additives they wont fit on the warning labels and scientists are hired to sit around a table and derive ways to make it as addictive as possible. My advice to you, don't say everything you think. You are dead wrong on this.
#11.7 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:06 PM EST
9 votes
N ikko-27998 18
read the article that is ecxactly what it is saying. and it actually lowers the risk of having COPD, if you would read the article
#11.8 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:23 PM EST
2 votes
Ba r r y -411365
well mkspeaks, then you'd be interested to know that several recent studies (I know one was done at UCLA but unsure of the others) that show marijuana is not just NON-carcinogenic, it is ANTI-carcinogenic. Granted, the studies were on specific cancers, lung cancer not being among them. But it would help explain why pot-only smokers do not have a higher rate of lung cancer than the general population. What is kind of funny is that all of this is kind of moot. With the advent of vaporizers, people can get high without ever combusting the weed. They heat air to a controlled temperature that remains below the combustion point for cellulose (plant matter), but it is still a high enough temp to vaporize the THC. Inhaling the vapor causes the intended effect without ever creating carcinogens.
#11.9 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:45 PM EST
4 votes
SonofM olly M
http://norml.org/library/item/gliomascancer
#11.10 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:59 AM EST
1 vote
ber nie-17228 29
Any mention of brain capacity?
#12 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:21 PM EST
2 votes
a lim -28 10 0 59
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Yours?
#12.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:39 PM EST
3 votes
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ber nie-17228 29
alim, Very clever...........
#12.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:55 PM EST
1 vote
a lim -28 10 0 59
I'm sorry...
#12.3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:25 PM EST
1 vote
Ba r r y -411365
Just google 'famous pot smoking personalities'. You'll find a lot of idiots, and you'll find a lot of geniuses. In other words, no correlation or causality to brain function. Nice try though.
#12.4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:47 PM EST
6 votes
Jeffr ey L
Weekend at Bernie's, with a list of pot smoking Nobel Prize winners ! Pot smoking dilates blood vessels, while nicotine constricts same. All benefits flow from this simple distinction.
#12.5 - Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:26 PM EST
1 vote
N or Ca l via Boston
Legalize it...I will advertise it...
#13 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:23 PM EST
10 votes
blucon
I've smoked pot since 1967 and have lived a full happy life. Married 31 years, owned my own business and have not hurt anyone. Just turned 64 and plan on many more years of peace and love.
#14 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:23 PM EST
42 votes
Jon-410 312
I`m with ya Blucon...been smoking pot since 1967 as well, married 35yrs, two very healthy children, never been in an accident, a over the road truck driver most of my life with over 3.5 million miles logged and have Never had an accident...now what would my record look like if I was an alcoholic? just sayin... I have friends I`v known from High School who also smoke everyday, business owners, friends who worked the same job for 30+yrs and are now retired...do you think they could do that if they were alcoholics? I doubt it..
#14.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:49 PM EST
9 votes
buckw hea t elvis

I don't go quite as far back as you two....only since 1969 lol. But I am now retired after running my own business for 26 years. Own my home. Happily married. Still love the feeling of smoking some MJ. And I now grow my own, which is a most enjoyable hobby. And moderation is the one of the keys to life.
#14.2 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:00 AM EST
3 votes
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Jon-410 312
Well put buckwheat elvis....Moderation IS the Key...
#14.3 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:11 PM EST advertisement
StephAce
Oh, but what about the crime rate if its legalized?! All the assaults on bags of Doritos! Friends stealing bagglers (loose fries) from other friends fast food bags! Oh! The horror of the couch cushion tossing, all for a 6 piece chicken of nuggets! Please, for god's sake, think of the empty cartons of ice cream too, please not that! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
#15 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:24 PM EST
26 votes
a lim -28 10 0 59
Funny! And true!
#15.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:41 PM EST
6 votes
M a ster Pir a te
You forgot about all the empty cookie dough containers.
#15.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:30 PM EST
2 votes
node4
StephAce: as my friend in college use to say to me whenever I got overly excited "Here ... quick .... smoke this ... mellow out!" It wouldn't surprise me to find a follow up study confirming this study, sponsored by Ben'n'Jerry's, Frito-Lay, and Taco John's.
#15.3 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:19 AM EST
2 votes
Bob-2270 68
smoke pot, smoke pot, everybody smoke pot!!
#16 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:24 PM EST
13 votes
toons222
It doenst effect some people and most people it just makes lazy as hell.
#17 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:24 PM EST
3 votes
N or Cal via Boston

Pot = the great demotivator. I'd be rich if I had a quarter for every time a few hits after work has kept me home instead of going to my local bar and hoisting a couple. My wife LOVES that aspect of it.
#17.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:27 PM EST
16 votes
La cie-298 0 8 74
Wrong and wrong. Whomever told you it doesn't affect them was lying or doing it wrong. I participate in several competition sports, along with my friends, all living at high altitude, and each of us smokes daily. I even smoke on my way to the gym. Your anecdotal evidence is completely fabricated and useless, as mine has just cancelled it out.
#17.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:46 PM EST
4 votes
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a lim -28 10 0 59
You guys do realize, as you go through the posts on this thread, it is made up of the mellowest people out there on the web? Speaks volumes, doesn't it!
#17.3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:29 PM EST
9 votes
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Am er ica n Lobo
I smoked herb for over 20 years. a small hit or 2 would give me energy, and I could get a seriously intense work out on at the gym. If I smoked more than that a couple hour time frame, it had the opposite effect, and made me super relaxed. Smoking a bunch of it(especially if you mix a bunch of different strains), WILL eventually make you sleepy. The smoking schedule I found worked best, is only smoke a hit or two in the AM and again in the PM, on days off of work. On work days, I'd never smoke beforehand, and I always waited until after I clocked out. You can burn out if you smoke too much, and different people have different thresholds for how much they can smoke and still funtion well.
#17.4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:47 PM EST
8 votes
Pr oI ndividua l-390 690 7

Lacie, I'm pro-pot. I'm a long time smoker. I will admit freely, if you're high you are less motivated...although all drugs effect people differently. I used to smoke all day everyday. I was not motivated to do anything. You smoke "daily", so I'm guessing you're not high ALL day from waking until sleeping (and while sleeping)...if you were you'd be less motivated I'm sure (or fairly certain anyways). Smoke an ounce a day, let me know how much you feel like doing then. But as the other commentor said, that lack of motivation can be a good thing. I stayed home, wasn't motivated to fight people, commit violent or theft-related criminal acts, etc. For some people, it's majorly benficial to be demotivated. Nazis would of killed a lot less people had they of smoked an ounce of weed each a day.
#17.5 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:15 PM EST
4 votes
Oom Ya a qub
I used to smoke all day everyday. I was not motivated to do anything. Funny, I was the same way when I stayed drunk around the clock seven days a wek. And then I got to where I couldn't even walk, even when sober, because after a week long binge the booze had depleted my body of thiamine, a B vitamin essential to neurological functioning. Luckily I crawled to my computer, ran a google search, and swallowed B1 pills (because I keep vitamins around in large number) like they were gumballs. I kept this up for days, otherwise I could have been left that way permanently. I still take a lot of vitamins even though I'm not drinking, because from what I've heard the damage can last a long, long time. Even a nightly pot smoker can usually get to work the next day--they might find themselves less productive, though. There are few drugs you can use constantly, as in around the clock every day, that won't hurt you, well duh. The key word is "responsibly."
#17.6 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:03 AM EST
4 votes
Old M a n-2223570
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Legalize, regulate and tax! The economy could use the boost.
#18 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:24 PM EST
16 votes
a lim -28 10 0 59
What is this default to taxing everything under the sun? Grow your own. Tax, schmax. Regulate what? Another hit on personal freedoms? Who ARE you people the thought police?
#18.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:43 PM EST
7 votes
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m ikethespike
you tax my pot and i'll cut your dick off!
#18.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:55 PM EST
5 votes
SP-3268 112
It's called compromise - they give us something we want (freedom to toke) and we give them something they want (our tax dollars). I'd much rather my money go to schools and roads and emergency services than the cartels.
#18.3 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:22 AM EST
3 votes
Em ily inI ow a
Personally, I hope they do legalize, regulate, and tax. However, they should also allow a certain amount of plants per household for personal use. Many people are too lazy to grow so it would still increase revenue and also increase healthy hobbies.
#18.4 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:28 PM EST
1 vote
poly scidude
With all the extra cancer causing crap tobacco companies hide in cigarettes, it's no doubt smoking weed is not as bad probably better. Go potheads.
#19 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:25 PM EST
20 votes
Bob-2270 68
Hey blucon----hugged any trees lately??
#20 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:26 PM EST
1 vote
ed ta y lor -20 65223

look at california who legalized it for medical patients. The state and federal have thier fingers in the pot(sorry)! But if they legalize it, and tax it, it is just another item for adults to buy. If they are worried about high workers in the workplace, then I say we drink, and most drink responsibly. Think about it, for once. PLEASE! It should not be against the law. We, as a society, do drink but most drink responsibly. It should be legal for adults. I do not see the harm. Drinking destroys the liver, yet its legal. Smoking destroys the lungs, yet its legal. Dipping (chew) destroys the esophagus, and lips, yet its legal. DO SOMETHING RIGHT! Legalize it and tax it, like everything else in this country
#21 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:27 PM EST
12 votes
a lim -28 10 0 59
Tax? What is this default to inviting the government into your living room? Lonely?
#21.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:48 PM EST
5 votes
Oom Ya a qub
alim, we have to tax something and, unless it's medical, you don't literally NEED pot the way you do food.
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#21.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:07 PM EST
3 votes
a lim -28 10 0 59
Come again? We need to talk...
#21.3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:33 PM EST
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Am er ica n Lobo
If you grow it for your own personal use, and don't make money off of it, then there should be NO taxation. However, if you make decent $$ or a LOT of $$ off of selling it to others, then I can see a tax being fair. It should be regulated, to make sure adults aren't selling it to minors(under 18).
#21.4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:54 PM EST
7 votes
Rea list-50 2574

Stop putting people in prison for having possession of a plant GOD put on the earth. FYI, marijuana is the only mind altering substance usable in it's original harvested state. You cannot say that about cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, or the worst and legal drug of them all, alcohol.
#22 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:29 PM EST
23 votes
Think a bout it-20 12248

Not quite true about the only mind altering substance usable in it's original harvested state. There are a couple of forms of mushrooms that will do a number on you in their original harvested state.
#22.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:01 PM EST
7 votes
M a r ily n1972
That's the realist thing I heard yet......
#22.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:11 PM EST
2 votes
Jtheo
and salvia. which has made people jump out of windows in a matter of 10 seconds after smoking it. One of the most intense hallucinagenic drugs on the plant, grows from the ground, perfectly legal
#22.3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:21 PM EST
Rea list -50 2574

I stand corrected. Should have stated the only mild mind altering substance.
#22.4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:44 PM EST
John-10 226 51
Can some one please explain why if you had test subjects for this long,why not check for other effects at the same time?If a cigarette smoker holds in as much smoke and as long as he can with each puff,would his lung capacity grow before he died of cancer.Just wondering.
#23 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:29 PM EST
1 vote
La cie-298 0 8 74
Because for every parameter you test in a clinical trial, the sponsors have to pay millions.
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So, to check for say, carcinogens on 5100 people X times per year for 7 years is another few million dollars, at the least. You have to consider lab contracts, personnel extracting the samples/running the tests, shipment costs, etc. Most likely, they were restricted by budgetary concerns and opted for the parameter (lung capacity) that made the most sense and that they were trying to verify.
#23.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:52 PM EST
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M a r k-768 20 9
Like I've saying all along, we have been lied to from the very start about the "harms" of marijuana. Its phucking harmless, damnit and it should be legalized NOW!!!!!!!!
#24 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:30 PM EST
18 votes
a lim -28 10 0 59
It is far better than harmless - it is helpful. Thank you, Mother Nature.
#24.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:50 PM EST
12 votes
M edica l M a r ijua na Cop-Out

First off, I'm sick of these studies that go back and forth, it's just what the researchers want to believe. Second of all, yeah right, inhaling smoke and not natural air is good for your lungs this report is @#$%&! stupid. Pot-Heads will eat it up, and last of all Medical Marijuana is a CopOut for people who want to smoke it and not worry about getting busted, IT CURES NOTHING!!! It doesn't cure Cancer (the feeling of reduced pain is the placebo effect when it comes to weed), it doesn't cure PMS, it doesn't cure insomnia (if you can't sleep, they might as well prescribe Medical Alcohol until you pass out), it doesn't stop anxiety, it creates it, we've all been stoned before. If you're going to leagalize it, legalize it, smoking is not medicine. The bottom line is that Marijuana distorts your mind and that's what people want when they smoke it. And to all you tree-hugging pot-heads out there that get baked and then all the sudden think that you know everything while you're stoned. Exhaling all that smoke is bad for the atmosphere, and thanks for contributing to global warming and polluting the air. I have nothing against marijuana if you want to smoke it, smoke it, but I'm tired of all this medical marijuana propeganda. KMA PEOPLE.
#25 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:30 PM EST
5 votes
StephAce
The pain relief is not placebo. As someone who suffers from Lupus, cannot take steroids, suffered the severe side effects of prescription pain killers (including suicidal thoughts), and the constant stomach issued suffered from OTC pain killers, marijuana was the only thing I could use, that didn't give me trouble. Maybe if you took your head out of your butt, and heaven forbid, had to go through something like that, or watched someone you loved, go through that, you wouldn't be so quick to judge, or so quick to speak your unsupported babble.
#25.1 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:45 PM EST
22 votes
Kim fr om M ich.
And your name is Dr. What???? Medical Marijuana Cop Out?
#25.2 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:52 PM EST
10 votes
a lim -28 10 0 59
We need to sit down together, light one up and talk about this. I know we can work through your concerns. Relax. You worry too much. Rejoice. Something good is happening. Go with it.
#25.3 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:54 PM EST
10 votes
ber nie-17228 29
alim,
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Talk about brain capacity!

#25.4 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:56 PM EST
1 vote
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m ikethespike
you sir, are a dumb ass hole and a cop out!
#25.5 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:57 PM EST
4 votes
Aly ssa r a y
believe wut u want but it does help with all those things especially pain my brother who has compressed spinal columns can actually function and move around with it and he can sleep without having flash backs to the war. It helps with nausea and anxiety. I'm 21 and i've had depression since i was 12 the only thing that has helped is pot. we dont use it until we get stoned we use it til we fill comfortable with what's going on around us and in us. Maybe you should toke up every once in a while and you wouldnt post stupid stuff like this. stop bein an ass hole about it and let ppl do what they need to do. Sorry youre so perfect and "we're not"
#25.6 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:59 PM EST
11 votes
Avenger -1511759
People can't KYA because your head is in the way.
#25.7 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:00 PM EST
9 votes
tom 474e
Marijuana has been shown to reduce tumor size and even cure lung and pancreatic cancer. Google it.
#25.8 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:03 PM EST
13 votes
N or Cal via Boston

And may I ask how many whiskies, Scotches, and/or beers you consume in one sitting? To each, his/her own, MMC-O; you can get off of your opinionated soap box, now.
#25.9 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:16 PM EST
7 votes
La dy Poh
Actually studies in Europe have found that Marijuana has been shown to reduce the size of some tumors. Asprin, Tylenol, Ibuprofen, Morphine, Oxycontin, ANY drug the doctors give you now a days NONE of them CURE anything! If they cured us they would be out of business. Marijuana DOES have properties that relieve pain, aid in sleep, reduce anxiety, relieve muscle spasms, reduce nausea and increase appetite. I saw my step father who had numerous tumors in his back, legs and brain and had not been out of bed in over a week get up out of bed, walk to the living room, sit on the couch, drink part of a beer and eat a sandwich after smoking a little weed. You have a right to believe whatever you want to believe. However YOU believing it does NOT make it true. I have seen it work on others and I have experienced it with my own medical issues. Do some abuse it? Of course! But do you know that number one in drug use among teens is PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS not marijuana. You may be TIRED OF THIS MEDICAL MARIJUANA crap but too freaking bad. I'm tired of seeing prescription drug commercials that take more time to tell you the adverse side affects of a pill than they spend telling you what the pill is actually good for!
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#25.10 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:28 PM EST
Richa r d-2538 136

Horse manure MMCO. You are a fool, a liar, or both.
#25.11 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:30 PM EST
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ed-2113954
Law enforcement; you just want the money and property that you can get from the bust, But even if it was legal, nobody would get past their Companies policies at the work place. It is like the States legalize it but the Feds will still bust you.
#25.12 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:30 PM EST
1 vote
Chr istopher J Pettice

hahha. but cmon ... what about the countless moments where weed has been beneficial? The fights ended or unfought because of getting stoned... the complaints ending because of the complainers smoking pot, the bonds made between kids and adults alike because of social pot gatherings... I do agree with you as far as the mind distortion goes... I have seen potheads tell of great ideals while being high, though their ideas were very contradictory to the times. I have heard stories of people frieking out when it was time to fight, making mistakes in the most crucial moments etc. I will agree with you on the basis that perhaps some (if not all)soldiers shouldnt smoke pot, being that they are in the middle of war, and might be incompatible with such things, making them a possible liability to their entire move... but unless you are anti pot for reasons of war, then i cannot support your claims without further reasoning. Plus, mistakes are made by all kinds of people whether they use and/or abuse drugs or abstain from them completely. Ibn fact it is often very funny, because those people that do make a mistake and dont use drugs are often told that they may need to use some, and those that make mistakes and do use them, are often told that they need to stop using them. In the end I theorize that every law and prohibition as well as freedom and right is only here to encourage those which they encourage. Laws regarding required abstinence in order to be supported are very encouraging to those who have never done such things, and/or believe that such things lead to spiritual inferiority. It is so much easier for someone to accept that they are perfect for the times that they live in, and that everyone else is evil, than to accept that they are virgins to something for no reason, and that abstaining from something will get them nowhere though they have done it all of their life. also, it is easier for someone to do something because it is said to be a right, or right in general, or at least permissible, than to accept that its wrong, and that they are inferior because of it. Couples have been made because of pot smoking in social settings, and babies have been made, some of them which may be in an important position of power and authority. Like sexual enhancement, pain relief, disease treatment, and emotional, mental, or spritual exploration, the universe is crammed full of ingredients that can be beneficial when used correctly. Spiritualists have found enlightenmnet, wisdom, and understanding while doing such things, and yes i know there are people who dont do these things that are still able to find benefit. But who are we to tell someone that something shouldnt be done to gain a certain end, when we have seen people do such things AND then gain the end, whether despite it, or because of it... i believe that there is a place for all things, even if it is only where pencil pushers and abstinence freaks (who have also been proven to be very beneficial under the right cercumstances) cannot enforce their laws and the laws of those that were able to establish their opinions and beliefs in the lives of all in their environment. The pollution thing.. alright i understand you... but the truth is, fire in general is pollution to the air if you truly want to get down to the specifics. and even that is debated by some being that the earth has the sufficient resources to repair itself, if only we balance our indulgences with work on green energy and purification tactics. in my theory, laziness is the source of pollution.
#25.13 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:26 PM EST
3 votes
m oonbea m r a cer
Medical Marijuana Cop-Out .... your statement is just ignorant! As someone who benefited from marijuana s medical properties, I know that your remarks are ignorant and without any foundation in fact.
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The success stories are just to common today to be overlooked, and attitudes like yours is exactly why we are in this position today! And the real question we should be asking is why? Who pays you ... the tobacco, alcohol, or drug or drug testing industry, or law enforcement? Whose pimp are you? Cause a person with a half a brain is more discerning than you!
#25.14 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:01 PM EST
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TX Kitka t
I have had gut issues for many years. Sometimes my guts get in such a spasm-it snot something I can deal with. A few tokes and my guts ease up. As someone said mj prohibition is a multi-billion dollar industry (everyone in the legal system-jails probation officers parole officers judges,yada yada yada..)-there is no way they want to give this up. I have always felt that as the white haired old farts who are likely lushes as well -that run our country die off and newer fresher smarter folks assume position in our government-things will change. Term limitations should absolutely be in force for any lawmaking position- you can run a country in the year 2012 with a 1940's mindset.
#25.15 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:39 PM EST
6 votes
TX Kitka t
sorry you CAN'T run today's country with a 70+ yo mindset. and no I was not stoned when I typed that. (as well as the line split making the words its not into = it snot !)
#25.16 - Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:44 PM EST
2 votes
SonofM olly M
http://norml.org/library/recent-research-on-medical-marijuana
#25.17 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:01 AM EST
2 votes
M a r k-768 20 9
Marijuana prohibition has been a masterpiece in the art of brainwashing LITERALLY. just look at some of the posts by people like Medical Marijuana Cop Out. Completely propaganda based and repeated like a dumb parraot. Polly wanna cracker? Ooo pot kills brain cells, polly wanna cracker? Ooo pot gives you lung cancer, polly wanna cracker? I can't stand being around people like this. It makes me want to commit extreme acts of violence toward them. But because I smoke so much pot, I have no motivation to do so (lucky for them....)----polly wanna cracker????????????
#25.18 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:27 AM EST
4 votes
m qir a
TX Kitkat I agree with most of what you said, however this one piece: "sorry you CAN'T run today's country with a 70+ yo mindset." I gotta say that one of the greatest presidential candidates is from your state of TX (im assuming you are from TX)...is Ron Paul....he has the vision of what America needs to be, in order to be great again....and while be may be the oldest candidate....he has the freshest, and invigorating ideas. He is in tune with reality, and i really admire him for it! I understand he is one in a billion, but he is out there! But overall, i do agree with you!
#25.19 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:49 AM EST
1 vote
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K-727
My medical marijuana sure helped my back pain last night and helped me sleep. Although for the most part, pot doesn't cure anything, it just helps with the symptoms, but last weekend I started to get a terrible migraine. A couple hits stopped me from getting one that would incapacitate me for a day or two. Please legalize this medicine.
#25.20 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:04 AM EST
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D onkey H oty
Smoke a bowl Troll! Always gotta be some moron who is probably hired by Exxon to demonize pot because they don't want us to figure out we don't need Exxon. We already figured it out BTW!
#25.21 - Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST
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