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1 markenrile Oct 13 2005 07:53:00
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sir, i really want to know the formulation how to spray the mango, we have a mango farm here in nueva ecija And i want to meet a technician who will teach me how the proper spray, for the past years we agrre to contract our mango farm to some mango sprayer business and the contract is a 50-50% to the owner of the farm and to the sprayer, the sparyer handle all the expenses of the formulation But years past by, i wondering why can we also spray our own farm so the income become more bigger to us and beside we also learn to taking care of it,, sir hope you could help with my inquiries, tnx

2 Verlo Oct 16 2005 07:54:08

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Junior Member Offline From: New Zealand Registered: Oct 09 2005 Posts: 112

can anyone please help me and markenrile with this problem because my father is experiencing the same delama with the sprayers (no disrespect to the sprayers), thank you

3 agri_center Oct 16 2005 15:31:44

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Hi, Iam not a mango expert especially in flower inducing mangoes. But, from what I read and for what experts say. You flower induce mature grafted or non grafted trees when they are already

in the fruit bearing stage. I assume thats about 4-5 years before grafted mangoes can start fruiting. I also assume that you Mark and Verlo, your mangoes are already fruit bearing which means they could be flower induced. Well to know if your mangoes are already for spraying one way to know is by the leaves of the Mangoes especially for the newly flushed leaves after harvesting. You will know if the you crush the leaves and the leaves have that crunchy sound in it and are all green is considered mature already. Here is a instruction of a flower inducing agent called Haifa (Potassium Nitrate): When to spray: 1. Age of three: KNO3 (Potassium Nitrate) should be applied to physiologically mature mango trees. Those that have not reached the reproductive phase will not flower despite KNO3 application. 2. Age of shoot/leaves: Mature leaves are more responsive to KNO3 than younger ones. After flushing, leaves should grow and develop for about 7-9 months. A practical guide to identify mature leaves in the fields is the copper green to brown color, brittle texture and crispy appearance. 3. Presence of dormant buds: They should be visible on the tip of the twigs as plump and convex protrusions. Non-dormant buds are conclave in appearance. RATE OF APPLICATION: It has been reported that concentration as high as 16% KNO3 have been used to induce flowering mango without any phytotoxic effects. In practice, the recommended concentrations for induction varies from 1-3% KNO3. In the Philippines, the reco0mmended rate varies with the season: Wet months (Off-season) July to November: 2 to 2.5 percent KNO3 is recommended (2-2.5 kg of KNO3 in 100 liters of water). Dry months (December to MAy): a lower concentration of 1 to 1.5% KNO3 is recommended. (11.5 of KNO3 in 100 liters of water). SECOND APPLICATION Oftentimes, if flowering is poor or does not occur, a second spray using low concentration of KNO3 should be applied. This procedure can increase flowring in mango.

RAINFALL The uptake of KNO3into the leaves is extremely fast. Consequently, rainfall after spraying has negligible affect provided leaves are dry during and imediately following spray aplication of Haifa Pottasium Nitrate. FOLIAR FEEDING Any Fertilizer applied to the tree via the soil cannot be utilized by the developing flowers: hence, foliar spray in needed. When Haifa Potassium nitrate is sprayed on the tree it becomes a fast and effective source of potassium and nitrogen. It is recommended to spray twice. Apply 1 to 2% KNO3 solution each application at about 42 and 65 days after induction. The first application at about 42 and 65 days after induction. The first application is done to encourage fruit setting and minimize fruit drop. While the second application is to increase fruit size.

Suggestions to have increase in fruits and save in pesticide and insecticide and fungicide: -after harvest prune the unwanted branches and twigs espeically the dead ones and sprouting stems. -after harvest apply 1-2 bag dry chicken manure or organic fertilizer each tree plus complete fertilizer to feed to the tree. (I advice using chicken manure because 1 bag cost 20 pesos each more cheaper than compost) -after flower inducing the mature trees, I suggest you bag the mangoes at the fruit set usually this takes 40 days after flowering inducement. This is better to less the cost on pesticide and insecticide. (If you're trees are very tall, I suggest you bag the fruits in the lower portion where can easily bag them for export quality pursposes) -Remember it is importnat you feed the tree after harvest of fruits as it already lost it nutrients in the ground that were fed to the fruits for development. -You will never flower a mature tree if the tree is not well fed. I suggest you apply organic fertilizer 3 times a year, before rainy season, after rainy season and after harvesting. This will gurantee a good harvest plus complete fertilize in the ground. -Do not over flower induce the tree because this is the cost why some mangoes die at a early age because of flower inducer overdose. I hope I helped in my own little way because this is mostly the problem of mango growers in our country.

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4 agri_center Oct 16 2005 15:44:24

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Devoted Member Offline Registered: Mar 28 2005 Posts: 1,294

Hi, Ok, If lets say you sprayed and payed all the expenses for the spraying for your mangoes, and you get 100% profit from it, I guess you will earn more. But also dont forget your market, where will sell your mangoes after you harvest? This traders, contractors, or sprayers definitely know where to sell the mangoes and for sure they wont tell you where do they sell them, but if you have a mango buying station that wont be a problem for you but if you dont, that will be a major headache looking a buyer. Market is the key, so before you spray the trees look for a buyer ahead time. Also, produce good quality mangoes so that you could dictate your price espeically the export quality ones. I also suggest make a cooperative like Mango cooperative in your place and create a mango buying station so that traders will know were to buy your produce. You negotiate with the traders through the cooperative. Philippine Agriculture Blog - www.agriculture.ph Website

5 Verlo Oct 19 2005 08:34:36

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Junior Member Offline From: New Zealand Registered: Oct 09 2005 Posts: 112

thank you agri_center for the info, i'll email it to my father cause i'm here in new zealand at the moment. i hope that i can plant mango trees of my own by next year before rainy season.

thank you again much appreciated.

6 Roel Lavina Jan 19 2006 15:00:24

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would like to iquire for any company selling organic fertilizer suited for mangoes. my farm located at Gen Tinio nueva Ecija but im residing at Las Pinas City. Roel

7 edgar Feb 12 2006 19:51:29

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gud day, ive read the above article saying that during off season(wet months) spraying, you'll have to increase the KNO3 level. yan lng ba ang factor during off season? tnx plant now trust tomorrow..:)

8 agri_center Feb 18 2006 10:26:08

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Roel, Processed chicken manure is good fertilizer to mangoes and sell cheaper than commercial organic fertilizers. wag ka bibili commercial organic fertilizers kasi ginagamit ito lang ng mga vegetables growers or organic vegetables growers at sa mga ornamentals.

processed chicken manure cost only 20-30 pesos per sack. wgile commercial organic fertilizers like vermicompost cost 200-300 pesos per sack or other other organic fertilizers. see the discrepancies of the two. tapos same like halos yung n-p-k level ng pareho. basta tandaan mo wag ka gagamit ng fresh chicken manure kasi may chemicals pa ito sa pagkain ng feeds sa poultry houses so kailangan palipasin mo muna maalis yung init sa manure. kaya tanong mo if may available processed chickem manure sa mga poultry houses malapit sa inyo. minsan wala ka makukuha kasi dinadala ito sa baguio ginagamit ng vegetable growers sa baguio, so kailangan mag pa reserve ka na sa mga poultry growers. Philippine Agriculture Blog - www.agriculture.ph Website

9 agri_center Feb 18 2006 10:40:42

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edgar, sa tingin ko tama lang yan application na yan na increase mo KNO3 during wet season. bakit? during wet season kasi at kapag i spray mo Kno3 yung mangoes mo, kalaban mo diyan yung ulan, ang manyayari malalaglag mga bulaklak. so by increasing the kno3 sa spraying during off season mapapalakas mo kapit ng bulaklak sa puno and at the same time para ma supplyan mo ng potassium na marami. just remember kaka harvest mo lang nung summer, so malamang wala na pagkain yung pun para makapag produce ng fruits. kasi kapag hindi mo fertililize mango trees mo after harvest at spray for kno3, flush of leaves lang lalabas sa puno mo. at usually ginagamit off season mangoes kapag pun mo at mga 10 years old up na. kasi puwede mangyari mamatay puno mo sa overs stressed sa pag fruit. carabao mangoes are biennial in nature meaning every 2 years lang talaga dapat namumunga yan kaso dahil commercial fruits ang carabao mangoes natin at high value kailangan natin every seasn dahil maraming gamit carabao mangoes natin. edgar, sa nueva ecija maraming offseason mango growers dun, maybe you could inquire. kahit naman mag increase ka ng spray ng kno3 mababawi mo naman kasi mas malaki farm price mo

sa mangoes kapag offseason so nag increase nga expenses mo at nag increase din naman profit mo. dito kumikita ang mga mindanao mango growers sa off seasn mangoes, ang advantage lang nila talaga wala sila typhoon sa mindanao. at kapag naabutan ng typhon ang offseasn mangoes mo ay malas mo nalang laglag sigurado bulaklak mo. maganda sana mag off season mangoes last year kasi konti lang bagyo last year. basta tandaan mo kapag maganda season ng rice sa luzon whole year round harvest puwede ka mag off season mangoes. Philippine Agriculture Blog - www.agriculture.ph Website

10 edgar Feb 19 2006 19:53:33

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Junior Member Offline Registered: Jan 21 2006 Posts: 113

ic tnx a lot agri_center, target ko ay magspray this year, mga 5 trees muna to learn kung ano mga lakad from production to marketing,etc.. hav a nice day. plant now trust tomorrow..:)

11 agri_center Feb 19 2006 23:22:13

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Edgar, your in the right track! start muna small then if you master all then you can go bigtime. there is no stopping you but yourself! hehe in your marketing you must choose the best for your trees. Pakyawan, contract growing, spray pos half the harvest goes to you etc... marami klase pag market mangoes kanya kanya diskarte at kanya kanya confortability sa profit. Minsan basta may kita ok na sa kanila pero di nila alam meron pa pala mataas na way para mabenta yung harvest mangoes mo.

dito talaga nagkakatalo mga mango growers sa pagbenta ng harvest nila. Either meron ka fair na middleman or wala. Middleman bumubuhay sa mango growers interms of marketing your mangoes! Basta napaka interesting ng fruit farming. maraming challenges pero in the long run yu will know the ups and downs of it. Anyway goodluck and godbless! Philippine Agriculture Blog - www.agriculture.ph Website

12 jlabtic Feb 28 2006 11:28:45

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Newbie Offline Registered: Jan 02 2006 Posts: 14

sir, I have a one hectare land with a four year old mango trees planted on it and since there are still space between mangoes, I plan to plant cassava. One farmer commented that it will invite fruit flies that will eventually attack flowers of mango. If this the case, how can fruit flies be controlled if I`ll pursue my plan. Can you gave me list of plants that can be intercropped and not detrimental to Mangoes? Waiting for your advise. Thanks, Jlabtic

13 agri_center Feb 28 2006 15:19:39

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jlabtic, this is from the book of Dr. Pamplona, Technoguide in the production of export quality mango:

intercrops could include rootcrops, cereals, legumes and vegetables, rice, corn, calamansi, guava, papaya, pineapple, vegetables like pechay, eggplant and string beans. Philippine Agriculture Blog - www.agriculture.ph Website

14 jlabtic Mar 01 2006 14:42:02

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sir, Correct me if I`m wrong but my inderstanding is that you can can intercrop any plants that would not interfere with the growth of Mango. But among the lists of intercrops are there plants that less suceptible to fruit flies. Is guava and other fruit bearing plants and trees invite fruit flies than other intercrops? How are fruit flies be controlled? Is it on the selection of intercrop or using insecticide? Waiting for your advise. Thanks, Jemon

15 agri_center Mar 01 2006 18:29:57

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Jemon, I think there is no problem in controlling fruits flies if you bag them I mean the fruits. Though labour intensive, it is very effective. Guava was suggested as an intercrop in mango orchards especially if your mangoes are just in the non bearing stage bevause the fruit tree is small and could be a cash crop like calamnsi.

In your case, you have already fruit bearing trees, then you can plant calamansi and other intercrops. Dont worry with fruit flies there are many remedies nowadays like fruit fliy traps etc... But in your case, this is is my own opinion , that your kinda late on intercropping your mango orchard. Usually you intercrop when the grafted mangoes are newly planted and you can use the intercrops as cash crops for 1-4 years when yur mangoes are not fruiting yet. Mango orchard to avoid infestation of pests and diseases should be clean and well pruned trees and farm... and especially well spaced, mango orchards with overcrowded canopies will not bear well in fruiting season. Philippine Agriculture Blog - www.agriculture.ph Website

16 jlabtic Mar 02 2006 10:27:30

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sir, Actually, I just purchased the land that`s why I`m planning to intercrop to make use of open spaces between the mango trees. Based on your recomendations and some inputs from practicing farmers, I decided to intercrop it with calamansi, cassava and plants for goats such as kakawati, rensoni and flamengia. Your inputs are well appreciated. Thanks, Jemon

17 edgar Apr 23 2006 20:44:13

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Junior Member Offline Registered: Jan 21 2006 Posts: 113

Sir gud day, regarding on spraying the mangoes, what the best manner of spraying? is it ok na mist lng? just enough for the foliage to get wet not to drip,sayang ang chemicals.. is it as effective lyk wat others doing now na parang nililigo and and daming tumutulo. tnx a lot. plant now trust tomorrow..:)

18 mangga_gamot Jun 30 2007 12:55:26

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Hello Friends, Please call AANI (02)839-1772 or 8391782 for details of the mango seminar and other livelihood seminars of your interest. Costly errors can dry your pockets, learn the right technologies. Tony Rola

19 Jeramil Garcia Jul 04 2007 09:45:47

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Hi! Good day to everybody. Magtatanong lang po, what is the best fertilizer for 2.5 or 3 years old mango trees? how offen to apply that fertilizer? is it applicable only to dry season? Jeramil

20 mangga_gamot Jul 04 2007 13:54:02

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Jeramil,

Apply 100 grams urea mixed with 100 grams 14-14-14 per tree once a month during the rainy season.

Tony Rola

21 saluyotboy Jul 19 2007 21:44:15

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Sirs, Sa Mango Spraying try niyo din ang BRASSINOLIDE And GA3 Plant Hormones, malalaki at mabibigat ang magiging bunga ng mga Mango Trees. 140% ang inccrease sa bunga at makikinis pa. Meron ng study dito sa CLSU tungkol dito. Eto kontakin niyo para makakuha kayo ng kopya ng Study: Mr. Bernard Avedoza ng Argent Laboratories: 0918 7146719 Search niyo na lang ang Brassinolide at GA3 sa Internet. May mga gagamit nito dito sa Pangasinan. Have a good day. Regards, Roland (0919)3145304

22 saluyotboy Jul 20 2007 20:01:58

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Correction: Sa Mango Spraying try niyo din ang BRASSINOLIDE And GA3 Plant Hormones, malalaki at mabibigat ang magiging bunga ng mga Mango Trees. 40% ang increase sa BIGAT bunga at makikinis pa.

23 agri_center Jul 20 2007 23:38:39

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hi, how about for other fruit trees? meron ba kayong website? diba yung GA3 minsan nakakapag produce sa fruit trees ng seedless fruits? meron ka bang results for other fruit trees besides mango? Sa mangoes naman, so hindi ka na kailangan mag spray ng flower inducer kapag ginamit mo na yung GA3 or Brassinolide? Philippine Agriculture Blog - www.agriculture.ph Website

24 mangga_gamot Jul 23 2007 20:14:46

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agri & saluyotboy, If you are preparing your mango trees with physiologically matured leaves for flower production, don't spray with GA3. However, GA3 is a very good spray after harvesting the fruits of your mango trees so flushing or production of new leaves will be encouraged early. This could be used for off-season production program.

Tony Rola

25 saluyotboy Jul 27 2007 17:39:28

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To Agri, GA3 not to be used during Flower Induction but when the Fruits are Mungbean size/ Corn Seed, Thumbsize and Egg size. Pwede rin 3 weeks before harvest. Ganon din sa Brassinolide hanggang egg size. Siguraduhin mo lang na mabasa ang lahat ng Surface ng Bunga.

Maganda ang magiging result: Larger Fruits, Heavier up to 143% ang increased pala compared to untreated as per Research Findings ng CLSU Research Office sa Table 4 ng documen sa Weight of Marketable Fruits. Meron na akong kopya. Pag nadaan ka minsan sa Pangasinan, text mo lang ako Sir.Para maevaluate mo rin yung findings nila. Regards, Roland