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1- Even if Ashtar exists, Ashtar supports aff by calling for peace and the avoidance of nuclear war to attain the great awakening
Gramaha 77 Representative of the Ashtar Command From John Hurst, The Ashtar Galactic Command http://ufocasebook.com/radioet1977.html "This is the voice of Gramaha [?], a representative of the Ashtar Galactic Command, speaking to you. For many years you have seen us as lights in the skies. We speak to you now in peace and wisdom as we have done to your brothers and sisters all over this, your planet Earth."We come to warn you of the destiny of your race and your world so that you may communicate to your fellow beings the course you must take to avoid the disasters which threaten your world, and the beings on our worlds around you. This is in order that you may share in the great awakening, as the planet passes into the New Age of Aquarius. The New Age can be a time of great peace and evolution for your race, but only if your rulers are made aware of the evil forces that can overshadow their judgments. "Be still now and listen, for your chance may not come again. For many years your scientists, government and generals have not heeded our warnings; they have continued to experiment with the evil forces of what you call nuclear energy. Atomic bombs can destroy the Earth, and the beings of your sister worlds, in a moment. The wastes from atomic power systems will poison your planet for many thousands of your years to come. "We, who have followed the path of evolution for far longer than you, have long since realised this that atomic energy is always directed against life. It has no peaceful application. Its use, and research into its use, must be ceased at once, or you all risk destruction. All weapons of evil must be removed. "The time of conflict is now past. The race of which you are a part may proceed to the highest planes of evolution if you show yourselves worthy to do this. You have but a short time to learn to live together in peace and goodwill.

2- Draconian Invasion A) Even if Ashtar exists, following the Commands lead will lead to genocide. The Orion faction has successfully infiltrated the Command and manipulated its doctrine and followers toward Nazi anti-Semitism and a anti grey quests
Think about it Dot com, 2008 http://think-aboutit.com/aliens/supersynopsis.htm While this is occurring on earth the Orionites are working relentlessly to "hack" the Ashtarian electronic collective which links member worlds together via psionic subspace transceiver implants. The computer-based collective is successfully infiltrated by the Orion forces, who begin using psyho-spiritual propaganda and manipulation to turn the Ashtar collective towards their agenda, masquerading as "Ascended Masters". A 9 ft. reptiloid named Hatonn feigns "defection" from the Kamagol-Draco-Orion group and insinuates himself into a position of 'master scribe' for the Ashtar collective, however his continued involvement with the Draco-Orion backed "ULTRA" bases under Antarctica and New Mexico suggest that he is actually a double agent, and certainly he shares the same anti-Semitic views as his "Nazi" allies under Antarctica. Axis forces escape to Antarctica, Argentina, and even North America, infiltrating the military-industrial, intelligence, psychiatric, petro- chemical and other levels, creating a fascist corpocrasy which begins siphoning trillions of dollars "down the tubes" into their military industrial empire, where the early Nazi treaties with the Draco-Orion forces continue. The U.S. govt. also falls into the alien treaty trap. An intelligence war breaks out between Orion=Kamagol-Jesuit-Nazi forces operating in the NSA's AQUARIUS and MAJI agencies, and anti-grey factions of the military operating within the NAVY's COM-12 and CABAL agencies.

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B) Draconian victory would ensure the destruction of all life throughout the universe
Rhodes in 99 John, Dragons of the Apocalypse, The Reptilian Agenda, http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r100799k.shtml Reliable sources have reported that some extra-terrestrial reptilian beings might be considered a race of intergalactic invaders. Unwelcome intruders that come from a region of space known as Alpha Draconis. Their apparent objectives are to seek out new life throughout the universe, conquer it by any means necessary, and use the spoils of their invasions as natural resources to fuel their ongoing goals. They traverse the universe towards their intended destination in a mother ship which is a directed Planetoid/Asteroids base station. (Note: Some people theorize that the reptilian mother ship locates and follows closely behind comets heading in the same general direction, using the gravitational field to pull the planetoid along through space. The comet's body also acts as a stellar debris impact shield and prevents any approaching civilization from observing their mother ship's advance.) During their long voyages, the majority of the ET reptilian population on the mother ship live in a state of hibernation. A contingency of reptilians manage the daily operations of the craft and maintain hibernation chambers. In addition, they send scout ships containing military and scientist types to the planetary system they are approaching, and establish underground posts on a planet of interest, such as. . . EARTH. The reptilian military ET's ensure the continued secrecy of their presence, carry out abductions of various life forms on the surface of the planet, and investigate the technological advances of the surface inhabitants. The scientific ET's study the planet's life biological forms, introduces their reptilian genetic code into whatever species displays traits they want to manipulate, and initiates a program of genetic crossbreeding. From their underground bases, the reptilian military ET's set the stage for the mother ship invasion by establishing a network of human-reptilian crossbred infiltrates within various levels of the surface culture's military industrial complexes, government bodies, UFO/paranormal groups, religious, and fraternal (priest) orders, etc. These crossbreeds, some unaware of their reptilian genetic "mind-control" instructions, act out their subversive roles as "reptilian agents", setting the stage for an reptilian led ET invasion. Just prior to planetary approach, the large reptilian population aboard the planetoid awakens from their hibernation and prepares for battle. When the invasion takes place, it is from above and below the planets surface. Strange craft, piloted by reptilians, greys and human-reptilian agents, descend from the clouds while others ascend to the skies from the underworld of caverns and subcities, overwhelming the surface cultures in a totally unsuspecting manner. After the surface inhabitants discover the futility of fighting off their invaders with their technologically inferior weaponry, a surrender is negotiated. Once the invasion is complete and the surface inhabitants yield to the demands of their new rulers, the reptilian mother ship strips the planet of its resources such as water, ores and genetic (DNA) information, then, having turned the planet into a new "Base of Operations", the reptilian ET's set out for the next "pearl" in space.

3- Ashtar is a NAZII dont need a card that says this is bad

UFO.Whipnet, THE OMEGA FILE. August 2007. http://ufo.whipnet.org/xdocs/omega.file/index2.html 1932 -- Adolph Hitler gains control of German society enough to force scientists to work in laboratories on advanced aircraft design. Aided by the implosion vortex technology of Victor Schauberger, and the technical expertise of scientists like Schriever, Habermohl, Ballenzo and Miethe, the Germans make extraordinary progress. There is evidence that they might have been aided by contact with Gray entities from inside the Earth and an 'Ashtar' connected group of humanoid aliens in Aldebaran.

4- Ashtar is a liar, we cant trust that Ashtar will save us, Ashtar has lied before
Elizabeth Joyce. THE ASHTAR COMMAND, new-visions.com. 1994 http://www.new-visions.com/articles-by-elizabeth/84.html Dr. Charles Laughead, an MD on the staff of Michigan State University in Lansing, Michigan, started communicating with various entities "from outer space" in 1954, largely through trance mediums who served as instrument for Ashtar and his cronies from that great intergalactic council in the sky. A number of minor prophecies were passed along, and as usual, they came true on the nose. Then Ashtar tossed in his bombshell. The world was going to end on December 21, 1954, he announced convincingly. North America was going to split in two, and the Atlantic coast would sink into the sea. France, England and Russia were also slated for a watery grave. However, all was not lost. A few chosen people would be rescued by spaceships. Naturally Dr. Laughead and his friends were among that select group. Dr. Laughhead made sober declarations to the press and on December 21, 1954 he and a group of his fellow believers clustered together in the garden to await rescue ... and waited. And waited. And waited! In California, a man named Allen Noonan claims to have experienced still another variation of this particular mind-warping phenomenon. Soon after his discharge from the Army following World War II, Noonan went to work for a company handling outdoor billboards. One day, he says, he was working on a billboard when suddenly he was taken in astral form to a strange place. He found himself in a huge white building filled 2

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with white light. A group of "elders" were situated around a glowing throne, and a great voice boomed from that throne and asked "Will you agree to be the Savior of the World?" Noonan quickly agreed to this role. Then he was told, "You may die in the hands of your fellowmen. Their sin shall remain with you until the Mother Comforter comes to deliver them." The next thing he knew, he was back in his body working on the signboard. In later experiences, he allegedly visited other planets such as Venus, and he frequently received telepathic messages and instructions from our old friend Ashtar. In this case, he knew it as "the Ashtar Command and the United Planets Organization". Allen Noonan is not the only Space Age messiah appointed by the Ashtar command... In Denmark a man named Knud Weinking began receiving telepathic flashes in May, 1967, including a number of impressive prophecies which came true ..He was then instructed to build a lead-lined bomb shelter and prepare for a holocaust on December 24, 1967 ... ...Mediums, telepaths, sensitives, and UFO contactees throughout the world were all reporting identical messages. There was definitely going to be an unprecedented event on December 24, 1967. Ashtar was talking through Ouija boards to people who had never before heard the name. Another busy entity named Orlon was spreading the word. The curious thing about these messages was that they were all phrased in the same manner, no matter what language was being used. They all carried the same warning. People were reporting strange dreams, dreams about symbols of Christmas ... There were also stories about dead telephones and glowing entities prowling through bedroom and homes. Many of these messages, dreams and prophecies were collected together by a British organization calling itself Universal Links. The stage was set for Doomsday. Thousands, perhaps even millions, of people had been warned The Danish cult locked themselves up in their bomb shelter ... After the imaginary crisis had passed, the American wire services finally carried stories about the cowering Danes, ridiculing them, of course. But Mr. Weinking came up with a message that explained it all: "I told you two thousand years ago that a time would be given and even so I would not come. If you had read your Bible a little more carefully, you would have borne in mind the story of the bridegroom who did not come at the time he was expected. Be careful so that you are not found without oil in your lamps. I have told you I will come with suddenness, and I shall be coming soon!" It was all a dry run, or was it? Actually, it was a rather impressive sequence of events , and it really proved something very important. Many predictions of the December twenty-fourth disaster had been well documented well in advance of that date. These messages came through in many different, countries, from people who had no knowledge of or communications with one another. The UFO contactees received the same identical messages as the trance mediums communing with spirits. A link had been established. It was now clear (to me anyway) that all of these people were tuned to a central source. (Possibly an earthly electronic device) My earlier speculations seemed true -- the UFO entities and the spirit entities were part of the same gigantic system. So more pieces of this tremendous puzzle were falling into place. A long series of events had apparently been staged to warn us of that tiger behind the door. Some of the entities were evil liars. They had ruined the lives of many by producing "proof" which led to false beliefs and irresponsible actions. Dr. Laughead and Knud Weinking had been victims in this enormous game. Many "New Agers" have become victims over the past several years.

5- Genocide A) Ashtar demands genocide before we will be saved Ashtar demands all Christians are dead
JD Hurst. PARADIGMS OF REALITY, Truthseekers Magazine. 1996 http://www.bio.net/bionet/mm/dros/1997-March/002988.html Allen-Michael Noonan, another Californian, formed a group called the One World Family, after claiming to have experienced contact with an extraterrestrial. Apparently, he was working on a billboard before suddenly finding himself on another planet. Surrounding him were angelic creatures, seated around a luminous throne. A loud voice boomed, "Will you agree to be the Saviour of the world?" Noonan said yes, and has sinced remained in contact with an extraterrestrial called Ashtar, visited other inhabited planets, and regarded himself to be the Second Coming. Noonan also believes that he is the sole channel for genuine communications from Commander Ashtar. Ashtar has assured Noonan that the One World Family will eventually take over the planet, including its governments; but not until all Christians have been "eliminated". As far as I know, the group is still in existence and Noonan continues to receive communications from Commander Ashtar. He has also authored a massive reinterpretation of the Bible, called The Everlasting Gospel.

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B) Genocide is the ultimate evil voting negative makes you complicit
Arne Johan Vetlesen, Department of Philosophy, University of Oslo, July 2000, Journal of Peace Research, Genocide: A Case for the Responsibility of the Bystander, p. 520-522 Most often, in cases of genocide, for every person directly victimized and killed there will be hundreds, thousands, perhaps even millions, who are neither directly targeted as victims nor directly participating as perpetrators. The moral issues raised by genocide, taken as the illegal act par excellance , are not confined to the nexus of agent and victim. Those directly involved in a given instance of genocide will always form a minority, so to speak. The majority to the event will be formed by the contemporary bystanders . Such bystanders are individuals; in their private and professional lives, they will belong to a vast score of groups and collectives, some informal and closely knit, others formal and detached as far as personal and emotional involvement are concerned. In the loose sense intended here, every contemporary citizen cognizant of a specific ongoing instance of genocide, regardless of where in the world, counts as a bystander. Bystanders in this loose sense are cognizant, through TV, radio, newspapers, and other publicly available sources of information, of ongoing genocide somewhere in the world, but they are not - by profession or formal appointment involved in it. Theirs is a passive role, that of onlookers, although what starts out as a passive stance may, upon decision, convert into active engagement in the events at hand. I shall label this category passive bystanders. This group should be distinguished from bystanders by formal appointment: the latter bystanders have been professionally Engaged as a third party to the interaction between the two parties directly involved in acts of genocide. The stance of this third party to an ongoing conflict, even one with genocidal implications, is in principle often seen as one of impartiality and neutrality, typically highlighted by a determined refusal to take sides. This manner of principled non-involvement is frequently viewed as highly meritorious (Vetlesen, 1998). A case in point would be UN personnel deployed to monitor a ceasefire between warring parties, or (as was their task in Bosnia) to see to it that the civilians within a UN declared safe area are effectively guaranteed peace and security, as set down in the mandate to establish such areas. By virtue of their assigned physical presence on the scene and the specific tasks given to them, such (groups of) bystanders may be referred to as bystanders by assignment. What does it mean to be a contemporary bystander?To begin with, let us consider this question not from the expected view- point that of the bystander - but from the two viewpoints provided by the parties directly involved in the event. To put it as simply as possible: From the viewpoint of an agent of genocide, bystanders are persons possessing a potential (one needing to be estimated in every concrete case) to halt his ongoing actions. The perpetrator will fear the bystander to the extent that he [or she] has reason to believe that the bystander will intervene to halt the action already under way, and thereby frustrate the perpetrators goal of eliminating the targeted group, that said, we immediately need to differentiate among the different categories of bystanders introduced above. It is obvious that the more knowledgeable and other wise resourceful the bystander, the more the perpetrator will have reason to fear that the potential for such resistance will translate into action, meaning a more or less direct intervention by military or other means. Deemed efficient to reach the objectives of halting the incipient genocide. Of course, one should distinguish between bystanders who remain inactive and those who become actively engaged. Nonetheless, the point to be stressed is that, in principle, even the most initially passive and remote bystander possesses a potential to cease being a mere onlooker to the events unfolding. Outrage at what comes to pass may prompt the judgement that this simply must be stopped and translate into action promoting that aim. But is not halting genocide first and foremost a task, indeed a duty, for the victims themselves? The answer is simple: The sheer fact that genocide is happening shows that the targeted group has not proved itself able to prevent it. This being so, responsibility for halting what is now unfolding cannot rest with the victims alone, it must also be seen to rest with the party not itself affected but which is knowledgeable about -which is more or less literally witnessing the genocide that is taking place. So whereas for the agent, bystanders represent the potential of resistance, for the victims they may represent the only source of hope left. In ethical terms, this is borne out in the notion of responsibility of Immanuel Levinas (1991), according to which responsibility grows bigger the weaker its addressee. Of course, agents of genocide may be caught more or less in delicto flagrante. But in the age of television - with CNN being able to film and even interview doers as well as victims on the spot, and broadcast live to the entire television-watching world (such as was the case in the concentration camp Omarska in Bosnia in August 1992) (see Gutman, 1993) physical co-presence to the event at hand is almost rendered superfluous. One need not have been there in order to have known what happened, The same holds for the impact of the day-to-day reporting From the ground by newspaper journalists of indisputable reputation. In order to be knowledgeable about ongoing genocide, it suffices to watch the television news or read the front pages of a daily newspaper. But, to be more precise, what exactly does it mean to act? What is to count as an action? We need to look briefly at the philosophical literature on the notion of action as well as the notion of agent responsibility following from it - in order to gel a better grasp of the moral issues involved in being a bystander to genocide, whether passive or active. I never forget', says Paul Ricoeur in Oneself as Another, 'to speak of humans as acting and suffering, The moral problem', he continues, is grafted onto the recognition of this essential dissymmetry between the one who acts and the one who undergoes, culminating in the violence of the powerful agent.' To be the 'sufferer' of a given action in Ricoeur's sense need not be negative; either 'the sufferer appears as the beneficiary of esteem or as the victim of disesteem, depending on whether the agent proves to be someone who distributes rewards or punishments'. Since there is to every action an agent and a sufferer (in the sense given), action is interaction, its structure is 4

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interpersonal (Ricoeur. 1992:145). But this is not the whole picture. Actions are also omitted, endured, neglected, and the like; and Ricoeur takes these phenomena to remind us that on the level of interaction, just as on that of subjective understanding, not acting is still acting: neglecting, forgetting to do something, is also letting things be done by someone else, sometimes to the point of criminality. (Ricoeur, 1992:157) Ricoeur's systematic objective is to extend the theory of action from acting to suffering beings; again and again he emphasizes that 'every action has its agents and its patients' (1992; 157). Ricoeur's proposed extension certainly sounds plausible. Regrettably, his proposal stops halfway. The vital insight articulated, albeit not developed, in the passages quoted is that not acting is still acting. Brought to bear on the case of genocide as a reported, on going affair, the inaction making a difference is the inaction of the bystander to unfolding genocide. The failure to act when confronted with such action, as is involved in accomplishing genocide, is a failure which carries a message to both the agent and the sufferer: the action may proceed. Knowing, yet still not acting, means-granting acceptance to the action. Such inaction entails letting things be done by someone else - clearly, in the case of acknowledged genocide, 'to the point of criminality', to invoke one of the quotes from Ricoeur. In short, inaction here means complicity; accordingly, it raises the question of responsibility, guilt, and shame on the part of the inactive bystander, by which I mean the bystander who decides to remain inactive

5- Cant trust Ashtar command to do anything they are in the middle of a civil war
Branton. Dulce & The Military-Industrial Establishment, The Dulce Book. 2007 http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/dulce/chapter18.htm All this is based on reports from contactee Israel Norkin and others that the Ashtar collective has been infiltrated by DraconianOrionite agents posing as "ascended masters", and that a large segment of the "Ashtar Command" has been commandeered by these interventionist-collectivist forces and has split off from another large segment of the 'alliance' which has apparently sided with the Andro-Pleiadean Federation. What distinguishes the two is that the Andro-Pleiadean Federation believes in Truth-Individualism-Non Interventionism whereas the Draco-Orion Empire adheres to a philosophy of Deception-Collectivism-Interventionism. ] According to contactee Alex Collier these two factions are now or have been at war within the Sirius-B system, and this conflict has entered the Sol system with the Draconian-Orion reptilians and their paraphysical overlords operating from Hale-Bopp comet in collaboration with their rebel Sirian cultists who were/are operating from within the "infiltrated" segment of the Ashtar collective, occupying HaleBopp's so-called "Companion" battleship -- reputedly a "...former Sirian alliance battleship..." -- which some have dubbed "HaleMary". This saturn-shaped object was seen AND photographed by BOTH Chuck Shramek AND is also seen in a leaked Hubble Space Telescope image, along with other 'objects' that apparently 'jumped ship' as the comet circled around the sun. This scenario seems to be remaniscent of the movie "LIFE FORCE" which depicted a race of draconian-like alien 'vampires' that entered the system undetected in the tail of a comet. Alex Collier claims that the non-interventionist from the Pleiades and Andromeda constellations, from Tau Ceti, Procyon and others systems, have "blockaded" the Sol system near the orbital sphere of Neptune in order to keep the Draconian-Orionite forces out and to keep them from interfering with our planet at this CRITICAL and VULNERABLE point in planet earth's history. According to Collier's other-wordly friends, there have been devastating battles with casualties on both sides that have been waged between the Federation and the Empire in this CURRENT "war in heaven" [current as this is being written] involving our Sol system, and also in one that was waged shortly before this in the Sirius system... a war that has gravitated from Sirius to our own Sol system. So, PRAY FOR our "friends out there" who are risking their lives for OUR sakes. It is the very LEAST that we can do...

6A) Religion directly trades off with sciencethe more we accept this position the more we push science to the periphery
Mary. Science and religion: Zero-sum game?, The Thinking Meat Project. December 21, 2008 http://thinkingmeat.com/newsblog/? p=1117 The relationship between science and religion can be hard to pin down. Are they complementary approaches to different aspects of the unknown, or different ways of approaching the same questions, and thus destined to be at loggerheads, competing for the hearts and minds of humans? A new study suggests that thinking of lifes bigger questions in terms of either religious or scientific answers makes it harder to switch gears and think positively about the other approach (see this article from Science Daily). The study involved having people do a task that focused their thoughts on either religious or scientific explanations, and then using a word-recognition task that checks the degree to which they seem to associate science or religion with positive or negative words. The results indicate that if one of these approaches is used to explain some of the bigger questions of life, its harder to think positively about the other one. 5

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B) Space exploration depends on science
Tarig Malik, Staff Writer. Space Commission Gets Advice on Sustaining Public Interest in Bush Vision, Space.com. April 16, 2004. http://www.space.com/news/commission_sustainability_040416.html If NASA plans to sustain its mission of sending humans to other worlds in the next few decades, it must encourage schoolteachers to fold space into lesson plans that inspire students to pursue careers in science, education professionals told a presidential commission Thursday. A robust education effort would also reinforce the workforce that will eventually build the spaceships of tomorrow, further sustaining the space, according to aerospace experts who spoke before the Presidential Commission on the Implementation on United States Space Exploration Policy

C) Space is necessary to solve multiple scenarios for extinction

Stephen Hawking, Worlds Smartest Person. Stephen Hawking: Humans Must Colonize Space Or Risk Extinction, Pleasant Morning Buzz. June 14, 2006 http://www.pleasantmorningbuzz.com/blog/614061 Astrophysicist Stephen Hawking says that the future of the human race depends on our going out into space. The survival of the human race depends on its ability to find new homes elsewhere in the universe because there's an increasing risk that a disaster will destroy the Earth, world-renowned astrophysicist Stephen Hawking said Tuesday. Humans could have a permanent base on the moon in 20 years and a colony on Mars in the next 40 years, the British scientist told a news conference. "We won't find anywhere as nice as Earth unless we go to another star system," added Hawking, who arrived in Hong Kong to a rock star's welcome Monday. Tickets for his lecture planned for Wednesday were sold out. He added that if humans can avoid killing themselves in the next 100 years, they should have space settlements that can continue without support from Earth. "It is important for the human race to spread out into space for the survival of the species," Hawking said. "Life on Earth is at the ever-increasing risk of being wiped out by a disaster, such as sudden global warming, nuclear war, a genetically engineered virus or other dangers we have not yet thought of."