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Hare Krishna, I got this Through mail few days ago from a Devotee friend,who always do some re search on net regarding various religion. I find this very Intresting and i thougt of sharing this with you people. India's God Krishna Was the King of Jerusalem! By Gene D. Matloc What a strange world in which we live! The Catholic Church has always nown that Christianity did not begin with Jesus Christ, but yet it tries to ma e us thin it did. St. Augustine of Hippo (354-430 AD) wrote: "This, in our day, is the Christian r eligion, not as having been un nown in former times, but as having recently rece ived that name." Eusebius of Caesarea (circa 283-371 AD) said: "The religion of Jesus Christ is n either new nor strange." In Anacalypsis, The 17th century British orientalist and iconoclast, Godfrey Hig gins, insisted that Christianity was already firmly in place in both the West an d the East, many centuries before Jesus Christ was born. He said, The Crestians or Christians of the West probably descended directly from the Buddhists, rather than from the Brahmins. (Vol. 2, pp 438, 439.) The existence of the Christians both in Europe and India, (existed) long anterio r to the Christian era... (Vol 2, p. 202.) I thin the most blind and credulous of devotees must allow that we have the existence of the Cristna of the Brahmins in Thrace, many hundred years before the Christian era-the birth of Jesus Chris t. (Boo X, p. 593.) "Melito (a Christian bishop of Sardis) in the year 170, claims the patronage of the emperor, for the now so-called Christian religion, which he calls "our philo sophy," on account of its high antiquity, has having been imported from countrie s lying beyond the limits of the Roman empire, in the region of his ancestor Aug ustus, who found the importation ominous of good fortune to his government." Thi s is an absolute demonstration that Christianity did not originate in Judea, whi ch was a Roman province, but really was an exotic oriental fable, imported from India, and that Paul was doing as he claimed, viz: preaching a God manifest in t he flesh who had been "believed in the world" centuries before his time, and a d octrine which had already been preached "unto every creature under heaven." (Bib le Myths and Their Parallels in Other Religions; T. W. Doane, p. 409.) Religious historians have for hundreds of years struggled to find out how and wh y the stories about Jesus and Krishna, who were born 2,000 years apart, are so n early identical. Both Christ and Krishna descended from Noah. The future births of both messiahs were predicted ahead of time. Christ was descended from Abraham Krishna was the father of Abraham (Brahma). Christ was at once a Koresh, a Hebrew, and a Yehudi. Krishna was at once a Kurus, an Abhira, and a Yadava. Christ was an incarnation of Yah-Veh. Krishna was at once an incarnation of Vishnu and Shiva. Christ's first name, Jesus, was Yeshua. A title of Krishna, meaning "love; devotion," was Yesu. Even today, many Hindu p arents name their sons, Yesu Krishna. Both men were born of virgins and in a stable. Krishna's mother was named Deva i. Jesus mother was called Mary. Krishna did not have an earthly father as such, but a protector, named Vasudeva. Jesus did not have an earthly father as such, but a mortal protector named Josep h. An evil ing tried to ill Christ and Krishna when they were both infants. To protect the infant Jesus, Joseph and Mary too him to Maturai, Egypt. To protect the infant Krishna, his parents, Vasudeva and Deva i, too him to Mat

hura, India. It was predicted that both men would die to atone for the sins of their people. As you have probably noticed, they too refuge in places having almost identical names. Both men preached to their people. Christ was crucified and then resurrected. Krishna was illed by a hunter's arro w and impaled on a tree. Later, he returned to life. Christ was crucified in Jerusalem. Some Hindu scholars thin that Krishna died in Jerusalem, having gone there when his coastal city of Dwar a san under the sea. Others say he went to Iraq. Christ appeared after his "death." Krishna appeared after his "death." Both of them have a major holiday dedicated to them on December 25th. Christ had a female admirer named Mary Magdalene. Krishna had a female admirer n amed Marya Maghadalena. Fanatically sectarian Christians and Hindus ali e militantly reject the idea tha t the stories of these two deities are related. The Christians accuse the Hindus of blurring their identities on purpose. Some even claim that the Devil himself is the culprit.The Hindus reciprocate accordingly. Unfortunately, neither side can prove or disprove anything. In this article, I will attempt to clear up this mystery once and for all. The Hindu Equivalent of our Old Testament Story of Abraham. The story begins with our Abraham or Brahma as the Hindus called him. His father was Lord Krishna; his brother was Mahesh a. .a Maheshvara who would be our Mose s (Heb: Moshe). The Hindu triad consists of the Gods Brahma, the equivalent of our God, and Gods Shiva and Vishnu. Actually Shiva and Vishnu are one and the same deities. Toget her, they are Brahma (God). Today, in India, there are only two temples dedicate d to God Brahma because the Hindus say man ind is not yet ready to worship such a lofty concept. Hindu Proof That Jesus Is the Son of God! The Bible tells us that Jesus was both Shiva and Vishnu, for Jesus' biblical nam es are Isa/Isha (Shiva), Yeshua (S t. Yishvara, pronounced in Sans rit as Yeshwa ra), Kristos, and Yesu, another name of Krishna . Even in India, Lord Krishna wa s and still is called Yesu Krishna and Kristna. These names prove to us that Jes us was both Shiva and Vishnu, thus ma ing Jesus the begotten son of the Unbegott en-Brahma. The preceding information shows us that the Hindus are as Christian as the Chris tians are. Morever, the Hindus can prove that Jesus was the son of God, but we h ave to accept this as a matter of faith only. Even so, there is no lac of Chris tian sects wanting the Hindus to "convert" to their way of thin ing although we must credit the Hindus with the honor of proving to us that Jesus is the son of God. But the Hindus don't need to convert to the spiritual nowledge they bequea thed to us. They were "converted" thousands of years before our Jesus was born. I say, leave them be. Since Krishna was not born of man, he was not actually the earthly father of Bra hma and Mahesh. Therefore, he himself was the protector (Tara) of Brahma. In San s rit, Tara means "savior; protector." It is a term generally used with the gods Rudra, Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma. Even our Old Testament says that the father (p rotector) of Abraham was Terah (Genesis 11:26.) The Bible tells us that Abraham and Sarah were half-siblings. (Genesis 12:19-20.). The Hindu holy boo s also tel l us that a blood relationship existed between them. The Puranas relate Sarasvat i to Brahma and Vishnu. Most frequently, she is associated with Brahma. Her conn ection with him dates earlier than to any other God. She is portrayed mostly as his wife and occasionally as his daughter. When Vishnu's popularity in India inc reased, myths relating Saraswati to him appeared. (Ref: Sarasvati and the Gods; www.vishvarupa.com.) Therefore, Brahma or Vishnu would also have been the Tara ( Terah) of Sarasvati because of her divine origins. Brahma (Abraham) Sarasvati (Sarah)

Abraham or Brahma's home was the land of Haran (Genesis 1:4.) Haran was the coas tal principality governed by Krishna. It was even named after him because Hara ( Sun God) is another name of Krishna. Brahma/Abraham was 75 years old when he lef t Haran. Just as Christ was crucified on a cross and then returned to life, Krishna, also nown as Haran, was crucified on a tree and then returned to life. This fact ap pears to cause some confusion in The Bible. (Read Genesis 11:26-31). There is also another "Haran" in India-today's state of Haryana. It is the regio n where Abraham decided to stop ma ing idols and worship only one God. Brahmavar ta, a region in Northeastern Haryana, is said to be the place where man ind was first created. (Varta=Dwelling.) Brahmavarta was the site of the Kuru setra War between the Kurus and Pandavas, in which Lord Krishna distinguished himself. An ancient and holy river, now dried up, the Sarasvati, once flowed through Brahmav arta. The Ha ra (the biblical Haggar) was a tributary of the Sarasvati. The rela tionships of these three geographical entities ma e sense. If Brahma provided th e channel or bed for the Sarasvati river, Brahmavarta could easily have been the symbolical father or brother of Sarasvati. Ha ra (Haggar), being a tributary of Sarasvati, depended on Sarasvati . So what were Abraham, Sarah, and Haggar? Peo ple, things, or places? I have stated that the Bible mentions Haran and Haryana. The Hindu holy boo s al so say that Brahma/Abrahan lived in Ur of the Chaldees. Ur was a Sumerian name f or "town; city." Chaldee (pronounced Kaldee) derives from the Sans rit Kaul, a B rahman caste, and Deva (demi-god). The North Indian Kauldevas worshiped idols re presenting their ancestors. According to the Hindus, Brahma married Sarasvati in Chaldea, the part that is now Afghanistan. Northern Afghanistan was called Uttara Kuru and was a great center of learning. An Indian woman went there to study and received the title of Va i.e. Saraisvat i (Lady Sarah). It is believed that Brahm, her teacher, was so impressed by her beauty, education, and powerful intellect, that he married her. (The Hindu Histo ry, by Ash oy Kumar Mazumdar; p. 48, in passim.) Lord Krishna, the divine father (Terah/T ra) of Brahma/Abraham, was the ing of Haran, with the seaport of Dwar a as its capital. In about 1900 BC, hundreds of thousands of native Indians emptied Northern and C entral India and fled to the Middle East after Krishna's Dwar a san under the w ater. Krishna gathered his family together and fled either to the Middle East or to wh at is now Iraq. Only some gigantic natural disasters, such as earthqua es and fl oods could have caused such an exodus. It was at this time that the Saraisvati a nd the Indus changed their proper beds. The Saraisvati dried up. The drying up of the Saraisvati... led to a major relocation of the population c entered around the Sindhu and the Sarasvati valleys... caused a migration westwa rd from India. It is soon after this time that the Indic element begins to appea r all over West Asia, Egypt, and Greece. (Indic Ideas in the Graeco-Roman World, by Subhash Ka , ta en from IndiaStar online literary magazine; p. 14.) And Joshua said unto all the people, Your fathers dwelt... in old time, even Ter ah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor, and they served other gods. Many people don't understand what is meant by Joshua's remar about "the other s ide of the flood." And Joshua said unto all the people, Your fathers dwelt... in old time, even Ter ah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor, and they served other gods. And I too your father Abraham from the other side of the flood, and led him thr oughout all the land of Canaan... (Joshua 24:2-3.) Many people don't understand what is meant by Joshua's remar about "the other s ide of the flood." They thin he was referring to the Noachide flood. He was ref erring to the time when God Krishna's Dwar a and Haran province, in today's Guja rat, san under water in about 1900 BC. Abraham, Sarah, and their followers esca ped southward, to the coastal ports of Kalyan and Sopara (Sophir or Sauvira), in Maharashthra. From there, they sailed northward to the Middle East. Sarah (Sars vati) embar ed from the port of Kalyan. At one time, Kalyan was located closer t o the coast, but is now located more than 50 miles inland. Sarasvati is the patr

on saint of Kalyan. The patron saint of Sophir or Sauvira was Parasu Rama (possi bly a name of our biblical Abraham/Brahma). And I too your father Abraham from the other side of the flood, and led him thr oughout all the land of Canaan... (Joshua 24:2-3.) Indian Author Paramesh Choudhury, author of The India We Have Lost, claims that Krishna and his family probably fled to Iraq. But I'm certain that they went to Jerusalem. The word Jerusalem is derived from Sans rit: Yadu-Ishalayam, meaning "The Holy Roc of the Yadu Tribe." Lord Krishna was a Yadu. The Moslems still re vere this huge roc under the Dome of the Roc on Jerusalem Temple Mount. Until now, I have been wondering why Krishna's name did not appear in Jerusalem after his arrival there. Yet, the name of the ing of Jerusalem, Melchizede , th e mentor of Abraham, did. I once thought that Melchizede was the name of a cert ain person. I made this mista e by thin ing that a prince and a son of a Kassite ing, Meli -Sada sina, was a supernaturally endowed prince, magician and spirit ual giant. I thought he had accompanied Krishna, Abraham, and Sarah to the Middl e East. Later on, I came to realize that the Sans rit word Sadha a applies to an yone who is an adept, a magician, one possessed of supernatural powers gained by worshipping a deity or by uttering magical chants. I have additionally shown in this article that the New Testament words for Jesus all refer to Lord Krishna and his holy names. The early Christians were convinc ed that Melchizede was just a prior incarnation of Jesus Christ, The remains of the Nag Hammadi manuscript entitled Melchizede seem to confirm this. Melchized e , ing of Jerusalem and mentor of his son Abraham, was none other than ancient India's God Krishna. The early Christians thought that Jesus was a reincarnatio n of Krishna, for who else had the name Yesu Kristna, Isa, Krishna, etc.? St. Paul states in the New Testament boo of Hebrews: Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made a high priest forever after the order of Melchisedec. (6:20.) For this Melchisedec, ing of Salem, pr iest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the ings, and blessed him...(7:1); For he was yet in the loins of his father when Me lchisedec met him. (7:;10);...what further need was there that another priest sh ould arise after the order of Melchisedec...(7:11); Thou art a priest forever af ter the order of Melchisedec (7:17);. Melchisede (Krishna) In closing this article, I want to mention the dissatisfaction I have always had with fanatical religious sectarians who yell that only they are right and that everybody else is wrong. They often insult, deprecate, moc , and reject those wi th whom they disagree, hoping to shut the formers' mouths. In many cases, these religious squabbles over suspected "differences" cause widespread bloodshed and misery in the world. I am a Roman Catholic and proud of it. But it grieves me wh en I hear priests, nuns and laity preach that anyone who isn't a Catholic is hel l-bound. The word "Catholic" itself derives from the Sans rit Ketu-Lo a, meaning "Univers al Leader." But how can a religion be "universal" if it is exclusive, loc ing ou t nations li e India who not only gave Catholics their own bible, but even the C hrist they worship? I have shown how nearly parallel our bible and the Hindu hol y boo s concur in almost every way-linguistically, culturally, spiritually, etc. Even the incestuous relationship between Brahma and Sarasvati squares with that of Abraham and Sarah. India more than qualifies to be the real holy land of all man ind. The main differences between Christians and Hindus arise from the fact that the Hindu form of Christianity stayed behind in India, and that the wester n Christianity we now was exported abroad. Naturally, geographical separation h as caused some variations in the two similar teachings, as well as culturally. A dditionally, we have to eep in mind that for many hundreds of years, these stor ies were passed down orally, from father to son. Changes, embellishments, and va rying opinions crept through the woodwor . It is a strange anomaly that our Christian sects want to convert the Hindus to t he same religious teachings the latter gave to the world and still practice! I have amply demonstrated that all of us, no matter what our respective religion s and nationalities, are grandchildren of India, Will this nowledge help eep u

s from tearing ourselves and the world apart? Addendum: If, until now, you are still unconvinced that Melchizede was Lord Krishna, and that Jesus was an incarnation of Krishna (Melchizede ) as Paul himself explained , I have no other recourse but to give you solid proof directly from the mouths of the Hindus themselves! This should put an end to the question. It is a verifi able fact that one of the names of Krishna was Sadha a. Being a ing, Krishna wo uld have been addressed as Mali a (King) Sadha a). If you are still doubtful, go to the web and type in Krishna Sadha a. You'll instantly get all the proof you' ll; ever need. Note: This article is a chapter from Gene's upcoming boo , now in preparation: Searching for God -- Now a Valid Science! It will be released in a utumn, 2007. Krishna Consciousness. yardwor meditation Related: General Mon, 05/18/2009 - 07:58 abrennan's picture Wow that's a long post. abrennan

The author of the boo is well nown for ma ing statements that he does not supp ort. His wi ipedia page was removed for that very reason. This information comes from a web site advertising his new boo . From what I rea d no publisher will ta e on his boo s, they are all self-published. Also none of his material is peer reviewed. I guess that doesn't mean much. It is a little interesting what is written here, but it doesn't seem t add anyth ing to what we now about Krishna. The author maintains that Vedic India once ru led the world. That's interesting. If he provided references for his assertions it would be more interesting. ________________________________________ Visit the Food Channel @ Krishna.com Mon, 05/18/2009 - 09:50 NityanandaChandra NityanandaChandra's picture Than you for loo ing in to

Fri, 05/15/2009 - 20:22 jivatattva's picture The connection

Yes there is a profound connection! The entire human race has experienced the transition from being in communication with God, to entering into a period of separation from God from the expansion o f our individual egos. So the whole of humanity has experienced the falling away of spirituality and therefore it can be seen in all ancient cultural histories. The Vedic is very old in relation to others, but also impressive due the amount

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you for loo ing in to this. I have met several people who made the same cl (that mother Yasoda was a virgin and Krishna was born in Barn?) on the inte simply because they read his false claims. If one wants to reveal the truth cannot be done through falsity. jivatattva

of information it contains, primarily because they were written on Hemp Cloth (g reat longevity) as compared to other cultures, where in there entire histories a re almost un nown because of lac ing historical info. It is said that the Vedic is the oldest, which is probably true. Although the re levance of being the oldest has no bearing on spirituality, maybe provenance of the path of human development, but the human race has been re-seeded or restarte d several times during all of this, so its a long and winding road, and we are a ll on it together, and we have all gone thru it together. So there are similarities everywhere you loo . Its li e expansions and contractions of our ego's over time, trying to figure ou t how to find fulfillment and satisfaction that is not tainted or fa e. We all f eel this and go though this - so you always see similarities everywhere througho ut time. I thin what ma es a lot of historical similarities also, is that when man loose s the connection with real spirituality, he feels empty in some way, and some ho w nows that its some sort of upper force that he is missing, so he ma es stuff up to replace it or to fill the void, and its interesting how we all tend to ma e up very similar things during this time. This is usually when the human ego's are running out of control and there is a big separation from God, and man out o f his ego (feeling an inborn necessity for something spiritual) tries to create a God, the way he thin s God should be, this is where the 'man creating god' the ory comes from - it should be called the 'man ind that's totally lost, and doesn 't have a clue' theory! Haribol Sun, 05/17/2009 - 10:22 e bha tin8 e bha tin8's picture Belonging to the same ONE Hare Krshna Very Insightful "I thin what ma es a lot of historical similarities also, is that when man loos es the connection with real spirituality, he feels empty in some way, and some h ow nows that its some sort of upper force that he is missing, so he ma es stuff up to replace it or to fill the void, and its interesting how we all tend to ma e up very similar things during this time. "

Guess WHY ? Because we are all being guided by the VERY SAME PARAMATMA and PARAM ESHWAR (Krshna). So He guides us to those similar things. I thin that's what yo u are saying ? Hare Krshna Sun, 05/17/2009 - 11:42 jivatattva's picture Para-whata ? Just idding! Yes, of course we all belong to the same ONE. But we have been given this free w ill and free choice of handling our self's and choosing our direction, so our pe rsonal ego swells and that is separation from the ONE, we separate from the ONE because in a state of swollen personal ego our properties change from the proper ties of the ONE, this is separation. This is in the spiritual sense, and because jivatattva

there is no physical dimensions in the spiritual, so this separation is not phy sical, its a separation based on properties - li e if my properties change from that of the absolute, then there is separation between myself and the absolute, its my choice to change my properties, so then the separation has been by my cho ice. We go thru this as individuals and also, as a humanity have gone thru stages of separation due to everyone in the society having swollen individual ego at the s ame time, such as what we have today in the world. We are bound by the five senses and every thing we perceive in this world is thr u our own ego, this is inescapable. There have been all sorts of techniques over the millennia to attempt to escape the inescapable, most are about reduction or destruction of the ego -- this does not wor , its li e removing a vital organ form the body, and thin ing you will get up an continue your activities. It seems as though we need to use our ego in conjunction with spirituality - thi s would require a correction of the ego not the elimination of it. How can we co rrect our ego while being bound by the five senses? we cant with five sense, tha t has been the age old problem. - So we need another sense! We are the co-creators and co-cultivators of our inner being, So we need to co-c reate a sixth sense. The Paramatman is beyond ignorance and nowledge and different from the five sen ses - but what does it mean? What is this story of the two birds? and why does i t ta e so long to find out why. The second bird (the observer) what does he do then, what would be the whole poi nt of this. I thin the two birds need to wor together with a spiritual desire to create a sixth sense and correct the ego. Haribol

Hare Krshna Than You. Certainly, the Lord gives us the sixth sense, and tailorma es our spirituality a nd inner world (Its His gift to us). Hare Krshna Fri, 05/15/2009 - 19:20 NityanandaChandra NityanandaChandra's picture I read this before and it I read this before and it across as good imagination but so many so called "fact " are actually fiction. Do you have any reference to support all these claims? Fiction: [[[

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Both Christ and Krishna descended from Noah. ?what? Both men were born of virgins and in a stable. (Krishna was the 8th son of Deva i but His birth was not by sexual union) It was predicted that both men would die to atone for the sins of their people. ?does it say that in Bhagavad Gita, no! Christ had a female admirer named Mary Magdalene. Krishna had a female admirer n amed Marya Maghadalena. ]]] Sun, 05/17/2009 - 22:21 Varnashrama Dharma Varnashrama Dharma's picture Hare Krishna hare Krishna Here you Go...Let see. 1)Both Christ and Krishna descended from Noah. Noah as per Dictionary i have found that:The Hebrew patriarch who saved himself and his family and the animals by building an ar in which they survived 40 days and 40 nights of rain; the story of Noah and the flood is told in the Boo of G enesis So it is similar to Lord Krishna pic ing up Sri Govardhan Hill on tip of his nai l!!! 2)Both men were born of virgins and in a stable. By Stephan KnappDr. Vedavyas, a research scholar with a doctorate in Sans rit, discusses some im portant prophecies from the Bhavishya Purana, which he says dates bac to 3000 B .C. He states that one prophecy describes the future appearance of Isha putra, t he son (putra) of God (Isha)(Jesus Christ), born of an unmarried woman named Kum ari (Mary) Garbha Sambhava. Krishna as we Know didn't too birth Directly from the womb of Mother Dev i.That s why it is said here as born of Virgins. 3)Well In Bhagvad Gita obviously rishna won't tell Arjuna abt his 'Avatar Samap ti' and Divert the topic from Dyana Yoga,jnaya Yoga and Bha ti Yoga. Although Krishna was Curse by Gandhari that he will Die from hunters arrow(serpe nt arrow) in Mahabharata. Mon, 05/18/2009 - 10:09 NityanandaChandra NityanandaChandra's picture 1. similar does not cut it. 1. similar does not cut it. If you loo ing at the Bhavisya Purana then you can f ind the story of Noah there. Exactly the same as it is told in the Bible. But he is still not a descendant of Krishna. 2. Well first of all Krishna was born in a prison house, not a stable. And also although Krishna's birth was not by sexual intercourse, his mother Yasoda was no t a virgin as Balaram and Krishna were the 7th and 8th babies. 3. Dieing for atonement of others is not our philosophy. Also it is also not cer tain that that was even Jesus' philosophy. For the original disciples of Jesus, the Ebonites, did not at all accept the salvation on the cross theory. They beli eve that one was saved by devotional service rather than salvation due to Jesus'

Any devotee? Please explain? Hare Krsna bha tincarol Sun, 05/31/2009 - 13:08 NityanandaChandra NityanandaChandra's picture The pure devotee is always The pure devotee is always under Krishna's protection. aunteya pratijanihi na me bha tah? pran?asyati attains; aunteya O son of Kunti; pratijanihi declare; na never; me devotee; pran?asyati perishes. O son of Kunti, declare it boldly that My devotee never perishes Bhagavad-gita As It Is 9.31 It is stated, mre rsna r he e, r he rsna mre e: If Krishna protects someone, no one can ill him, and if Krishna wants to ill someone, no one can save him.

when that ind of distortions are made , and the delta distortions continue over time. I guess we can loo at it as an expected phenomenon to some extent , but as people we have to be extremely careful while presenting resources, to at leas t minimize the distortions over time. However, the gist of what the author is saying , does show a connection, that we all now. Hare Krshna

My comment above was referring to the original boo , and not directed at the per son who posted it here. In fact, it was a simple observation of the general phenomenon of how informatio n gets distorted over linguistic barriers , geographical locations and time if w e are not careful with the resources we have and don't have. However, the good thing about this is the author's efforts to bring forth the hi storical evidences of the Vedic origins of Hebrews.

Mon, 05/18/2009 - 16:08 e bha tin8's picture *Just a note*

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Mon, 05/18/2009 - 16:04 e bha tin8's picture Yes, its quite sad,

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Hare Krshna Fri, 05/15/2009 - 20:51 EternalMuser EternalMuser's picture Fascinating!! And yet... Hare Krishna! Your article is fascinating. Many of the events and terminology seem to match an d establish a lin . The only thing that stri es me is that while everything about the life and Avata rs of Lord Krishna is so well documented in our Vedic Scriptures, how is it that these events are missing from the same. Also, how is it that Pure Devotees of Lord Krishna and other Saints e.g. Sri Cha itanya Mahaprabhu, Sant Tu aram, Sant Dnyaneshwar, Srila Prabhupada etc have nev er once made a mention of these events? I will be watching this thread very carefully. I would request the other advance d Devotees to give their opinions and share their nowledge regarding this. Than s in advance. Haribol Your eternal servant, eternal muser Fri, 05/15/2009 - 22:28 Varnashrama Dharma Varnashrama Dharma's picture Than you Hare Krishna PAMHO, Than you very much for replying to this forum. Actualy even i Don't now wether its proper or not.So to find out Devotee's opin ions,i posted it here. Although Most of the points Dosen't contradict. I never Knew that Abraham is Known as Brahma in Oxford Dictionay.And Sara as Sar aswati. Although We Don't now from what source(Vedic Boo s,Bible etc etc) the Author ha s adapted and Prestented a connection,but for me he seems to be suceeded to some extent in Ma ing Connection. May be Krishna might have went to Jerusalem,as Whole earth was Know as 'Bharata Varsha'. As It is Said that there are N number of Krishna Lilas which are not given in Kr ishna boo s or we Don't now.(Just li e Chamat ari a Candri a by a Acharya which Neophyte devotee are not allowed to read,just an example). This Advent of Krishna to Jerusalem can be one Lilas. Your Servant, Aditya Bhargav Sun, 05/17/2009 - 10:06 e bha tin8 e bha tin8's picture Personal Time-Line with Jesus and Krshna Hare Krshna

Among all the Devtas, devotees, and loving elders who have played a hand in brin ging Krshna to me (by Their mercy), Lord Jesus Christ is MOST CERTAINLY one, a p rominent one. Also, i have experienced a stri ing similarity between 1. Jesus Christ 2. Sai Baba of Shirdi - who is said to be a Datta-avtar - incarnation of Lord Da ttatreya (Brahma - Vishnu - Mahesh Trimurti Datta). He wears a robe li e Jesus, head dress li e Muslims, and radiates Vedic teachings wherever He goes, performi ng miracles for His devotees' welfare and with the same compassion as Jesus Chri st. It is supposed that Jesus went to the Northern India (and Himalayas) between age s 12 and 30 to live among the Maharishis, before starting His ministry at about 32. Sun, 05/17/2009 - 22:50 Varnashrama Dharma Varnashrama Dharma's picture Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Than you very much for replying to this thread. Well actualy Jesus Christ as Son of God was been Predicted in Bavishya Purana an d Rig Veda. But About Sai Baba nothing such was been predicted by any Acharya or saint of ot her sect neither in Vedas. During those time of Sai baba(Un now to October 15, 1918) ,His Divine Grace Bha tisiddhanta Saraswati Prabhupada(February 6, 1874 January 1, 1937) was Present a nd was Spreading the Movement of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. So why Would Sai Baba will teach(Advaita Vedanta) some thing different from Bha tisiddhanta Sarawati Prabhupada's Mission!!!? Our Acharyas are very against Advaita Vedanta isin't it? Although its not proper to compare Sai Baba with Jesus christ(forgive me if i ha ve offended you) as we Know from our Ancient Text that Jesus Christ was been sen d to earth by God to spread God Consciousness.And So Jesus Christ is Close repre sentative or close Associate of Krishna.

Sai Baba can only be called as Social Wor er.Who cured people from diseases.Alth ough Sai baba never said he is God but his sentimental followers claimed that he is God. And also it is Not Supposed that Jesus Christ went to North India.Its is the Fac t and Truth.researched by Stephan Knapp in Vedic Scriptures.(Please see the Next Post) Refernces: Rigveda X:90:7 8220; Tham yajnam barhishi prou shan Purusham jaathamagratha Thena deva ayajantha Sadhya rushayaschaye

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The first born and only born son of the God. His name is "Prajapathy" the son of the God comes to this world at the appropriate time. After coming to this world he travels around advising man ind, what is sin and what is not sin; what is to be done and what is not to be done; what is wrong and what is right. To those h uman beings, which accept his advises and obey his orders, he offers prosperity and peace in this worldly life and salvation at the time of their death. And bei ng the completion of his venture to redeem man ind from sin, he gets sacrificed at the end his specified period on earth. In verse 7 chapter 90 of the 10th boo of the Rigveda, the sacrifice of Prajapathy the Son of God, is well explained. ;At the time of sacrifice, the son of God will be tightly tied to a wooden sacri ficial post using iron nails by hands and legs, he will bleed to death and on th e third day he will regain his life in a resurrection. According to the ancient Vaisnava view of God, there are many categories of inca rnations of the Lord, the "sa tyavesa" being just one of them........ The sa tyavesa-avataras are of two types: forms of divine absorption (bhagavad-a vesa), and divinely empowered forms (sa tyavesa). All sa tyavesa-avataras are ji va-tattvas, including those who are considered to be incarnations. When a jiva-t attva becomes specifically empowered by the Lord, he is called sa tyavesa avatar a. Dhanvantari, for example, who was the inaugurator of medical science, was a j iva-tattva sa tyavesa incarnation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The primary sa tyavesa-avataras are directly empowered by the Supreme Personalit y of Godhead and are called an incarnation. Lord Brahma and Lord Siva are consid ered to be such sa tyavesa's, as are Lord Buddha, Kapiladev, Rsabhadev and NaraNarayana. The secondary sa tyavesa-avataras are indirectly empowered by the Supr eme Personality of Godhead and are called vibhuti. Jesus Christ and Hazrat Moham med are included in this group, as are the great Vaisnava Acaryas li e Srila Bha tivinoda Tha ura, Srila Bha tisiddhanta Saraswati Tha ur, and A.C. Bha tivedant a Swami Srila Prabhupada. "Generally the eternal associates of the Lord in the spiritual s y do not come t o the material world. Sometimes they come, however, by the order of the Lord--no t to hold any administrative post, but to associate with the Lord in person or t o propagate the message of God in human society. Such empowered representatives are called sa tyavesa-avataras, or incarnations invested with transcendental pow er of attorney." Srimad-Bhagavatam 3:5:21 Srila Prabhupada's Purport. Hope this meets you in Good health. Tue, 05/19/2009 - 16:20 jivatattva's picture Stephan Knapp jivatattva

I li e Stephan Knapp's wor , but I thin a lot of this stuff hasn't yet complete ly played out to the point of being an absolute truth, and in the mean time a lo t of it is just speculation. From the Hebrew perspective none of it is relative to the Vedic culture. What we tend to forget, is that the Lord has restarted the human race several times due to corruption that inundated the dwellers of the earth so deeply that the earth ether needed to be destroyed or or re-started without destruction. The Hebrew lineage is such a re-start! If you loo at the biblical time line, it does not conform to the time line of human history or Vedic history - according the the biblical time line during the time of the garden of Eden wherein was th e first man, there was a whole other society well underway existing on the earth

that had already existed for thousands of years! How can this be? Scholars and historians choc it up too 'a wrong time line' - NO , archeology sh ows that there is a much older culture than the Hebrew culture and even older th an the garden of Eden. So what is this? The biblical lineage is an isolated re-start of a new culture f or the sole purpose of fulfilling a lineage (bloodline) that brought about the C hrist, this is all this was about, and it has nothing to do with any other cultu re. Ma ing all these comparisons just gets totally out of hand. We have to remember that comparisons in Kali are subject to easy corruption. Li e Sai Baba who is really a Vedic scientist li e Maharishi Mahesh, but they are o ften perceived as spiritual leaders, when they are really practitioners of Vedic sciences. Li e the rap the Maharishi got about selling mantras, but Maharishis mantras are not the same as Mahamantra, they don't have the same purpose - and t hen he transcribes the Gita (mista e), and it becomes even more confusing about who he is - he was a Vedic scientist just li e Sai Baba who is also a Tantric ma gician, all these things become very confusing in Kali -- Its best to proceed wi th caution! Haribol Tue, 05/19/2009 - 18:20 NityanandaChandra NityanandaChandra's picture Haribol Jivatattva Prabhu, Haribol Jivatattva Prabhu, what you are stating is supported in the Bhavishya Pu rana where there is an elaborate description of Adam and Eve's lineage down to t heir descendant Noah (Nyuha) is given. The details are not similar but rather al most identical, all the names, etc. However it is stated as you say that Adam was the father of the Mlechhas, the me at eating race of man, not all of man ind in general. Hare Krishna Tue, 05/19/2009 - 19:42 jivatattva's picture Mlechhas jivatattva

Yes this Mlechhas race is interesting because it seems as though it is predomina nt in the world today. In biblical times even men of God in many instances were infested with lust, jus t li e the meat eater is infested with parasites, and then ill health and bad fa te causes a brea down, and nature with its healing powers purges the illness, a nd they are right bac at it again. I thin this is a master plan of the Lord - called something li e 'give them eno ugh rope' - and we are seeing a lot of egos hanging these days! But its all good , even when I'm hanging I try to see that its all good, I'm wor ing on it by the mercy of the Lord. Haribol Tue, 05/19/2009 - 20:41 NityanandaChandra NityanandaChandra's picture Revolution in Consciousness Video http://connect. rishna.com/node/528 :)

Hare Krshna What was that - Sai Baba 'is' a Tantric Magician ? We are tal ing about SHIRDI SAI BABA who has left His body almost hundred years ago. Varnashram Dharma said "He is just a social wor er" , i did not comment on that, but i thin now there seems to be some misunderstanding - i hope you are not ta l ing about another Sai Baba - who lives , since you used present tense 'is'. Than You Radhi esh Prabhu, for the info about Lord Dattatreya, at least you con sidered a Guru-avatar of Dattatreya, whether Dvaita or Advaita. I am sorry i made this post. So far i have written here based on 1. Scriptural ref 2. Spiritual teachings 3. Personal Experiences 4. As witness to others' personal experiences. This one was about personal experience. The similarity is in Their Leelas, mission, compassion, dress and appearance. That is all. I was not even trying to ma e any connections. Hare Krshna Mon, 06/01/2009 - 20:43 Varnashrama Dharma Varnashrama Dharma's picture Yes.The Same Shirdi Sai baba. Hare Krishna, Sorry for Replying late,as i was out of town on Business wor . You said,". Sai Baba of Shirdi - who is said to be a Datta-avtar - incarnation o f Lord Dattatreya (Brahma - Vishnu - Mahesh Trimurti Datta). " With due respect,Can you please give me any shastric Evidence that say Sai baba is the Incarnation of Lord Dattatreya,Vishnu and Mahesh simultaneously or any ac harya Predicted that such Personality will come to do welfare of the people?. We Follow on basis of Bona Fide Guru,Sadhu and Shastras. Does any Bona fide Guru,Sadhu claims that Shirdi Saibaba is a God!!!? If yes indly let me now. You said "and radiates Vedic teachings wherever He goes, performing miracles for His devotees" Does his Folowers study the Vedic Teachings which he Radiated and which Vedic Te achings did he gave his followers? If yes than what are those vedic teachings and are they same as Srila Prabhupada and Srila Bha ti Siddhanta Saraswati Prabhupada taught the World. You said"performing miracles for his Devotees" A Devotee of a Lord(Vaishnavas) never Exibits Mystic Yoga. Because attaining perfection through mystic siddhis is not the path of the true transcendentalists. By reading SB 6.11.25 and 3.9.23, our doubts will be solved.

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Therefore, due to 2 reasons : 1) Because Mystic Yoga is not the process for Kali Yuga (as stated in SB 12.3.52 ) 2) Even if someone attains so called perfection of mystic yoga, according to SB 10.2.32, he will again fall down. Because of these 2 reasons, any follower of Mystic Yoga cannot attain real perfe ction.And So one who haven't attain Real perfection how will he Guide others to perfect their life. Also Read the Purport "In this age of Kali, claim to be God, but rishna is the Supreme given By Srila Prabhupada in SB 4.24.42 those who have a little fragmental portion of mystic power such pseudo Gods can only be accepted as fools, for only K Person who possesses all mystic and yogic perfections"

Even Lord Rishabdev,who was Master of Mystic Yoga,practised Mystic Yoga but neve r exibited it. Indeed he utilised those Siddhis For Krishna Consciousness and made other so Cal led Yogis realise the Proper path of attaining Lord. Also Remember Words of a Mouth can't be Authority.Just because some sentimental people claims Shirdi Saibaba is Incarnation of God,dosen't ma e him God. Also I have said in my earlier post that Srila Bha ti Siddhanta Saraswati Mahara j was present during Shirdi Saibaba,who Did The Real welfare of the people by sp reading the The Nectar of Holy Name all corners of India.And Further by our Dear Srila Prabhuapada and his disciples all corner of The World. Hope this meets you in Good health. Than you. Yours sincerely, Aditya. Tue, 05/19/2009 - 17:23 jivatattva's picture See what I mean

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No offense intended, but do you see what I mean? "We have to remember that comparisons in Kali are subject to easy corruption." Sai Baba vs. Sai Baba, sounds the same to me! Just li e Krishna sounds li e some thing else, and Jehovah sounds li e something else, but is it really that someth ing else? I guess it requires more information to really now, li e which Sai is which - o r in the case of the Sai that I was tal ing about, which Sai is witch - or in th e case of Maharishi and Sai, which witch is which. I thought my first post was relatively general, but it seemed li e we all wanted to tal about things that sound the same, so I was just chiming in :) :) Haribol Wed, 05/20/2009 - 23:26 EternalMuser's picture Sai Baba vs Sai Baba Hare Krishna EternalMuser

You're quite right Krushnali; There is a whale of difference between the Saint S hirdi Sai Baba who left his mortal body in 1918 and the controversial godman Sat hya Sai Baba who lives in Puttaparthi, Andhra Pradesh. My humble opinion is that a genuine Saint is one who points the way to God which Shirdi Sai Baba did. And a godman is one who says that he himself is God or an Avatar of God which Sa thya Sai Baba is nown to do. I thin Jivatattva Prabhu was alluding to the latter. More information on: Shirdi Sai Baba: http://en.wi ipedia.org/wi i/Shirdi_Sai_Baba Sathya Sai Baba: http://en.wi ipedia.org/wi i/Sathya_Sai_Baba http://news.bbc.co.u /2/hi/programmes/this_world/3791921.stm http://news.bbc.co.u /2/hi/programmes/this_world/3813469.stm As Jivatattva Prabhu mentioned, in Kalyuga, we must truly proceed with caution! Haribol. Your eternal servant, eternal muser

Hare Krishna. It is interesting to note Krushnali's statement that Shirdi Sai Ba ba is said to be an incarnation of Dattatreya. Dattatreya, although an incarnati on of the Lord, is said to have preached impersonalism. Srila Prabhupada mention s this in a purport in the 8th canto of Bhagavatam. Also in Caitanya Caritamrta Madhya 17.185, Srila Prabhupada's purport says for the jnanis, the atheist Kapil a, Vasistha, Durvasa, Dattatreya and other impersonalist philosophers are the ma hajanas. So Varnashrama Dharma is right when he says that Saibaba preached Advai ta. Radhi esa dasa Mon, 06/01/2009 - 20:58 Varnashrama Dharma Varnashrama Dharma's picture Yes Prabhu you are right Dattatreya is teaching the path of Mystic Yoga. Nobody can attain perfection by that path in Kali Yuga. Nath Sampradaya (The 9 Mystic Yogis nown as Naths - Macchindranath, Gora shanat h, JalanderNath, Kanifnath, Gahininath, Bhartrinath, Revananath, Charpatnath, Na gnath) This sampradaya aims at liberation through mystic yoga. There are many branches of Nath Sampradaya. They cannot attain perfection because bha ti and guru- rishn a- ripa are the only real perfections. Instead of following the teachings of NavNath, one should follow the teachings o f NavaYogendras. That can put us on the correct path of life. To attain perfection through mystic siddhis is not the path of the true transcen

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dentalists. By reading SB 6.11.25 and 3.9.23 Then there is the classic SB slo a which I always li e to quote for those who ar e following paths other than bha ti : SB 10.2.32 ye 'nye 'ravind a vimu ta-mninas tvayy asta-bhvd aviuddha-buddhaya ruhya cchrea para pada tata patanty adho 'ndta-yumad-aghraya Translation: [Someone may say that aside from devotees, who always see shelter at the Lord's lotus feet, there are those who are not devotees but who have accepted differen t processes for attaining salvation. What happens to them? In answer to this que stion, Lord Brahm and the other demigods said:] O lotus-eyed Lord, although nonde votees who accept severe austerities and penances to achieve the highest positio n may thin themselves liberated, their intelligence is impure. They fall down f rom their position of imagined superiority because they have no regard for Your lotus feet. Also if you notice Dattatreya's picture has a cow and dog. In Krsna's picture, t here are only cows. This shows that Dattatreya does not see any difference betwe en one living entity and another (the idea of nirvisesavada or mayavada). Krsna also sees all living entities as one (as He says in BG 9.29), but Krsna recogniz es the external difference in the bodies and species of the living entities (BG 13.22). Dattatreya however, expounds the impersonal philosophy that everything i s ultimately illusion. Hence you were Right!!!. Hari Hari Sun, 05/17/2009 - 22:56 Varnashrama Dharma Varnashrama Dharma's picture Jesus Christ went to North India. Reference: Jesus Predicted in the Vedic Literature By Stephen Knapp Dr. Vedavyas goes on to say that the Bhavishya Purana describes how Jesus would visit Varanasi and other Hindu and Buddhist holy places. This is also corroborat ed by the manuscript on the life of Isha (or Issa), discovered by Mr. Notovich i n 1886 at the Hemis monastery in Lada h, India as well as by the Hebrew inscript ions found in Srinagar, Kashmir at the Roza bal, the tomb of Yuz Asaf [Isha or I ssa]. The Bhavishya Purana also predicted how Jesus would meet Emperor Shalivaha na who established the Shalivahana or Sa a era. Dr. Vedavyas describes this in his Telegu boo , Veerabrahmendra Yogipai Parishodhana. The description that is ta en to be of Jesus is found in verses 17-32 in the 19t h chapter of the Chaturyuga Khanda Dvitiyadhyayah of the Bhavishya Purana. To ge t a clearer understanding, here is what the verses say: Texts 17 - 21 vi ramaditya-pautrasca pitr-rajyam grhitavan jitva sa anduradharsams cina-taittiridesajan bahli an amarupasca romajan hurajanchhatan tesam osan-grhitva ca

danda-yogyana arayat sthapita tena maryada mleccharyanam prtha -prtha sindhusthanam iti jneyam rastramaryasya cottamam mlecchasthanam param sindhoh rtam tena mahatmana e ada tu sa adiso himatungam samayayau Ruling over the Aryans was a ing called Shalivahana, the grandson of Vi ramadity a, who occupied the throne of his father. He defeated the Sha as who were very d ifficult to subdue, the Cinas [Chinese], and the people from Tittiri and Bahi au s who could assume any form at will. He also defeated the people from Rome and t he descendants of Khuru, who were deceitful and wic ed. He punished them severel y and too their wealth. Shalivahana thus established the boundaries dividing th e separate countries of the mlecchas [low classes] and the Aryans. In this way S industhan came to be nown as the greatest country. That personality appointed t he abode of the mlecchas beyond the Sindhu River and to the west.

Text 22 e adaa tu sha adhisho himatungari samaayayau hunadeshasya madhye vai giristhan purusam shubhano dadarsha balaram raajaa Once upon a time the subduer of the Sa as went towards Himatunga and in the midd le of the Huna country (Hunadesh - the area near Manasa Sarovara or Kailash moun tain in Western Tibet), the powerful ing saw an auspicious man who was living o n a mountain. The man s complexion was golden and his clothes were white. Text 23 o bharam iti tam praaha su hovacha mudanvitah iishaa purtagm maam viddhi umaarigarbha sambhavam

The ing as ed, Who are you sir? You should now that I am Isha Putra, the Son of Go d , he replied blissfully, and am born of a virgin. Text 24 mleccha dharmasya va taram satyavata paraayanam iti srutva nrpa praaha dharmah o bhavato matah I am the expounder of the religion of the mlecchas and I strictly adhere to the Ab solute Truth. Hearing this the ing enquired, What are the religious principles ac cording to your opinion? Texts 25 - 26 shruto vaaca mahaaraaja praapte satyasya sam shaye nirmaaryaade mlechadeshe masiiho 'ham samagatah iishaamasii ca dasyuunaa praadurbhuutaa bhayan arii taamaham mlecchataah praapya masiihatva mupaagatah Hearing this questions of Shalivahana, Isha putra said, O ing, when the destructi on of the truth occurred, I, Masiha the prophet, came to this country of degrade d people where there are no rules and regulations. Finding that fearful irreligi ous condition of the barbarians spreading from Mleccha-Desha, I have ta en to pr ophethood .

Texts 27 - 29 mlecchasa sthaapito dharmo mayaa tacchrnu bhuupate maanasam nirmalam rtva malam dehe subhaasbham naiganam apamasthaya japeta nirmalam param nyayena satyavacasaa manasyai ena manavah dhyayena pujayedisham suurya-mandala-samsthitam acaloyam prabhuh sa shatathaa suuryacalah sada Please hear, Oh ing, which religious principles I have established among the mle cchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad contaminations. The mind sho uld be purified by ta ing recourse of proper conduct and performance of japa [me ditation on the chanting of the holy names of God]. By chanting the holy names o ne attains the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts, from all dire ctions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of the Surya Mandala [solar planet], who is fixed and all-attractive, and attracts the hearts of all living creatures. Thus by following rules, spea ing truthful words, by mental harmony a nd by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should worship that immovable Lord . Text 30 isha muurtirt-dradi praptaa nityashuddha sivam ari ishamasihah iti ca mama nama pratishthitam Having placed the eternally pure and auspicious form of the Supreme Lord in my he art, O protector of the earth planet, I preached these principles through the ml ecchas own faith and thus my name became isha-masiha (Jesus the Messiah). Text 31 iti shrutra sa bhuupale natraa tam mlecchapujaam sthaapayaamaasa tam tutra mlecchasthaane hi daarune After hearing these words and paying obeisances to that person who is worshiped b y the wic ed, the ing humbly requested him to stay there in the dreadful land o f mlecchas. Text 32 svaraajyam praaptavaan raajaa hayamedhan cii irat raajyam riitvaa sa shashthyabdam svarga lo amu paayayau King Shalivahana, after leaving his ingdom performed an asvamedha yajna and afte r ruling for sixty years, went to heaven. Now please hear what happened when the ing went to (the heavenly region of) svargalo a. Thus ends the second chapter entitled, The Age of Shalivahana of the story of Kali Yuga of the Chaturyuga Khanda also called Pratisarga-parva of the wonderful Bha vishya Maha Purana. Mon, 07/13/2009 - 03:54 JanVEDA's picture Fa e histories JanVEDA

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rushottam_Nagesh_Oa ) and Stephen Knapp (his Wi i article was cancelled, if I remember well). From my pov, it's a dead-end approach, doing more damage than merit, but these people wo n't admit it. The whole 'Jesus in India' issue is a controversial one, tainted b y politics. Nicolas Notovitch (http://en.wi ipedia.org/wi i/Nicolas_Notovitch) w as a Russian spy involved in the pre-WWI world powers's political-military game in China, Tibet and India. Theosophy was a significant factor in this story. Here's about the bac ground of Bhavisya Purana: http://veda. rishna.com/encyclopedia/sastras-studies1.htm#6 "Regarding Aquarian Gospel of Lord Jesus The Christ, I have ta en some stray ext racts just to support our views, but we don't give any importance to that boo ." (Letter to: Tamala Krsna -- Tittenhurst 14 September, 1969) "Regarding boo s li e Aquarian Gospel or even the Testiments, we cannot accept t hem as authorities because sometimes it is learnt that the words are not actuall y spo en by Christ, but they are so set up by the devotees." (Letter to: Hamsadu ta -- Tittenhurst 2 November, 1969)

Similarly, Srila Prabhupada once appreciated Watchtower's criticism of gay marri age done by some priest (PQPA 2: Vedic Culture: Varnasrama-dharma; SB 6.1.11 -New Yor , July 25, 1971; etc.). But this can be hardly considered as his complet e endorsement of JW's doctrine. Would you li e to find out more about Krishna and Krishna consciousness? Browse our catalog of boo s about Krishna published by the Bha tivedanta Boo Tr ust. About us | Contact us | Site Maps | Donate Who's new barefeet emmobrie gautyve ybab1979 cutroidjem1978 Who's online There are currently 0 users and 7 guests online. Quic Lin s Buy a boo Available titles E-boo s Suggested reading Boo s in other languages Vaishnava calendar Alachua webcast Gita audio boo Keep In Touch

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