That meeting was held in Zagreb on November 27 1991. in the official residency o f President of Croatia Franjo Tudman.

Besides president Tudman, other attendees were Stipe Mesic, Josip Manolic, Dalibor Brozovic, Dr. Milan Ramljak, Gojko Susa k, Ante Beljo and several other officials of the party [HDZ] and the Croatian go vernment. "In present conditions it is not in the Croat interest to support the survival o f sovereign Bosnia-Hercegovina. Perhaps, we will not openly advocate that, but w hy shouldn't we accept this offer for the setting up of a new border, since that is in the interest of the Croat people, both here in Croatia and in Bosnia-Herc egovina? I do not see any strong nor serious arguments against that idea, especi ally after the talks I had with Milosevic and Izetbegovic. One of our men in Bos nia has made a proposal for the change of borders that includes the territories covered by your community of Herceg-Bosna, which will be connected to the Croat sovereignty here [in Croatia]. In addition to these two communities Croatia shou ld probably, for political reasons, get the region of Cazin and Bihac and such a solution would fully satisfy the Croatian national interest". The remaining part in which mostly Muslims and some Croats would remain, in othe r words the part around Sarajevo, could be transformed into a small state, a sta telet which would be a remnant of the state of Bosnia, and would be a buffer zon e between Serbia and Croatia in this part of their borders. That statelet would mostly rely on Croatian support. "International factors should be satisfied with this solution, since they are in any case probably seriously counting on a similar solution. As has recently bee n mentioned, they are probably counting on the Serb army to take care of the Mus lim element, Islamic element on the territory of Yugoslavia, whose aspirations a re to establish an Islamic state in Europe with support from Iran and Libya." All historical facts are pointing out that Bosnia-Hercegovina is not a solution for the Croat nation. Above all, it was created by the colonial conquest of Asia n powers. Gentlemen, let us not forget that Bosnia was established in the period between 15th and 18th century on parts of territory belonging to the Croat nati on and Croatia. All similar colonial creations in Asia and Africa are gone. Bosn ia-Hercegovina did not exist between WWI and WWII. Communists recreated it after WWII. They even made Muslims into a nation to, supposedly, resolve the problem between the Serbs and Croats. Did they succeed in that? Of course not! They achi eved just the opposite. Therefore, Bosnia-Hercegovina should not be treated as s omething given by God and something that will survive. It should not be forgotte n how harmful a survival of Bosnia could be. "Croatia has been brought into an impossible situation because of the creation o f Bosnia-Hercegovina. We cannot create independent Croatia in administrative sen se, let alone organize its defense. Therefore, what are the perspectives? What i s the future of the Croat people in Bosnia-Hercegovina? I have already said that the number of Croats in Bosnia-Hercegovina has fallen from 24 percent of popula tion to 17 percent [in 1991]. Mr. Vlasic from Travnik says that the number of Cr oats in Travnik has dropped from 56 percent to 37 percent. You can rest assured that, if Bosnia-Hercegovina becomes an independent country, the number of Croats will fall further to horrific proportions in ten years time. Muslims count on d emographic expansion because of their high birth rate and immigration of 500,000 of Muslims from Turkey etc."Therefore, the survival of Bosnia-Hercegovina as an independent state would harm the Croatian nation and prevent the creation of a territorially normal Croat state. That would establish preconditions for the dis appearance of Croats in Bosnia-Hercegovina. Besides, today there is no united Bo snia-Hercegovina."Because of technical reasons, we support sovereign Bosnia-Herc egovina as long as it exists, but sovereign Bosnia does not exist any more. Serb s have seceded. You [Bosnian Croats] are excluded from the government. The Bosni an government has no authority in the parts of Bosnia controlled by the Serbs. A nd not only Serb parts of Bosnia but all of Bosnia-Hercegovina is included in th

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