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Winters, Willis
From: mbrinegar@dallasarboretum.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:20PM
To: Winters, Willis
Subject: Fw: Thoughts For Consideration
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From: "Dyer, Paul" <paul.dyer@dallascityhall.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 07:18:10-0500
To: <mbrinegar@dallasarboretum.o.rg> ;
Subject: Re: Thoughts For :
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It been a tough few days around here, but I haven't forgotten about your very thoughtful message. I will
give you a call asa I get clear around here. I really appreciate your thinking outside the box and our
partnership, Mary.
Thanks,
Paul
From: Mary Brinegar <mbrinegar@dallasarboretum.org>
To: Dyer, Paul
Cc: scoke@wccpc.com <scoke@wccpc.com>
Sent: Sun Aug 08 06:09:15 2010
Subject: Thoughts For Consideration
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When I spoke to Mary Suhm earlier this year about our upcoming contract she suggested I think of things
that could be of benefit to the city, just as the Zoo contract had been, and that addressed our needs .I was
bewildered for months for we had so little to give up in dollars, down to well below $200,000 now. In
reading in the paper about the budgetary plan of mowing the parks every 28 days, which you and I know
would change the face of the p1,1blic parks in the city, I darted up in bed with this thought.
The Arboretum Needs:
More parking and to move more cars aw:i.y'from entering and exiting Garland Road.
A way for visitors to enter on Lawther does not upset the neighbors and still provides EMS
access for them
The City Needs:
Parking for so many events at White Rock Lake
Assurances that city park property will be improved if possible without the additional use of city money
For the parks master plan to have the asset of the lake becoming more accessible to its citizens and safer
To assure police protection around the lake and security of its citizens who visit there, without an
additional charge to the city
The Suggestion:
The Dallas Arboretum would have Winfrey Point and the areas surrounding it added to its PO, to not only
manage it and the parking associated with it but also enhance it in future years for the benefit of the city,
at no cost to the city except for support on bond issues.
Imagine if you would, the road around Drive going from the Garland Road entrance to the
Winfrey Point entrance. .-: '3r a'x. 1
Instead of the road going up to Winfrey Point it would now be diverted around the homes to the right to
access the back loop that goes by Emerald Isle and Barbecks on the east and connects to the rest of the
park by biking/walking trails on the west. There is a ballpark there that may be a hot button, but it could be
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reconfigured to be off of this road with parking for its patrons next to it.
The land therefore remaining, excluding the walking and biking paths and the ballpark if necessary, would belong
to the Arboretum.
The Arboretum would then need city monies to fence the area and provide gatehouse entries on two sides. The
gatehouse areas would then be closed for the day at dusk or when the private rental of Winfrey Point was
concluded.
The interior gated area would be regularly mowed and cared for by the Arboretum. In the first few years, as
money became available from its the Arboretum would add more picnic tables and family
friendly areas. later of course with the develpi),IJ)_ent,of a Master Plan for this, this would be changed to seating
areas with panoramic views, within gardens designed by landscape professionals.
The Arboretum would handle the renting of Winfrey Point and include parking lot protection for those guests
attending.
It would have a fee attached to entry and exit for parking, making it in the beginning years a safe and secure
place for picnickers to leave their car
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the view; and on weekends it would handle the many cars coming
to the lake for events. i. , .
One of those events would be the festivals of The Dallas Arboretum. These occur now regularly between March
and November which is also a prime time for the lake.
If there could be a parking charge for this area of $5.00 a car, for example, the Arboretum would have money to
maintain the grounds, park all of it when needed for festivals of our own or those for the lake or running clubs; and
through the years with help from bond funds,. enhance it.
The Arboretum would work with Jill Beam or whomever is assigned to assure that we work together on dates for
the running events and the needs for Arboretum festivals.
What would enhancement look like?
It could be the development of new gardens and perhaps a parking facility disguised, so that more space could
be made available for horticultural cement. We could take the beautiful location of Winfrey Point
and using the same architectural design stone, make a structure that works in today's times with
views of the lake from three exposures in a large room.
What Would You Get?
A new asset for the city; as well as an original one Winfrey Point building and surrounding area that was not
reaching its potential.

Greater use of the lake by the walkers, etc, as it is now safer at this part of the lake, while protecting the
property of the neighborhood, ball field etc. -
The potential to have this added to the garden experience of the Arboretum with the development of a Master
Plan for it and a way for a trolley from this parking area to eventually go to an entrance to the Arboretum off
Lawther Drive. This trolley could be hidden from the neighbors sight lines by the use of a wall landscaping
approach.(This will need future bond monies) I could envision a beautiful rose garden, an oriental garden and the
glorious water shows at night being done ,by Longwood Gardens for special occasions in the Winfrey Point
property.
The running and biking clubs who want to do something at the lake would still be able to do so with greater
security and management
I considered that the revenue from the parking might be shared, with the city getting a percentage of net profits as
well as the garden, but then the city would owe for maintenance and staff in months where there was little
business, and in the profitable months, would need to be deducted which could be a budgetary and
audit nightmare. Rather we could in the net profits when proceeds from parking revenue went
toward Lawther Drive enhancements on both Arboretum and lake side, something all stakeholders would like
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to see whether more benches, more security in the area, more approved lighting etc.
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You would probably have Ted Barker going crazy about people parking at Winfrey Point but you could always say
that it is now being managed by us and this needs to meet a community need. And for this trade you received the
mowing and horticultural care of all of this property and what it could mean to thee citizens who visit the lake. The
other neighbors in the apartments behind Winfrey Point however would now be going nuts with excitement for
there would be eventually a world class botanic garden out their window, and the lake beyond.
You could have those that are into native plants and grasses going crazy that the grass at Winfrey Point will be
gone and that later the are may be horticulturally enhanced. Yet we have example after example that we can point
to from Chicago Botanic Garden down where the city is preserving natural woodlands nearly, while giving the
experience of a major display garden next to it.
You would lose some monies from the rental of Winfrey Point and the knowledge that it is an inexpensive rental
facility for the city to offer to others.
What We Want For Doing This
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The city to agree to pay the utilities of the entire Arboretum without question as a part of our new contract, with the
Arboretum being subjected to a yearly audit of energy/water usage to make sure that best practices are in place.
We would increase by a third the property managed by the Arboretum at no additional cost to the city, other than
the startup amounts mentioned, for yearly s1,1pport from the operating budget of the city.
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Serious help on the next bond issue parking along Garland Road, 2) for the completion of Phase 2
of our Children's Garden 3) for the fencing and gatehouses needed for this facility and well as communications
infrastructure and 4) lastly for the rerouting of Lawther Drive and reconfiguration of the ballpark.
We would agree to take on the expense of running and managing Winfrey Point and the properties that surround
it, losing money at some times of the year for gate attendents and security in place, hoping to make this up on
sunny days and during festivals that we would develop.
Summary
I am now mentioning this to you, Paul, by email, copying Steve Coke, our Board Chairman, to see if this is even
worth pursuing. It would need great discussion by all sides and board action for the Arboretum and by the city at
all levels. Yet we can't start the talk unless you think it has possibilities.
Please let me know your thoughts,
Mary Brinegar
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Winters, Willis
From:
Sent:
To:
Dyer, Paul
Monday, April 11, 2011 1:48 PM
Winters, Willis
Subject: Fw: Parking issues at WRL, Winfrey Point for events
From: Ted Barker [mailto:tbarker@kwp.org]
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 09:38AM
To: Beam, Jill; Kadane, Sheffield; Dyer, Paul; msuhm@att.blackberry.net <msuhm@att.blackberry.net>
Cc: 'Gerald Worrall III' <gw3@wkaarchitects.com>; Perez, Gloria; Jenkins, John; Nosworthy, Caroline
Subject: Parking issues at WRL, Winfrey Point for events
Councilman Kadane, Mr . Dyer, and Chief Perez, Ms. Shum:
Today's events:
I got a hold of Scott Jenkins this morning after talking to Officer Neavitt (sp) about the
dangerous vehicles on the actual hike/bike during the start of the Police Foundation run.
This was after I called 911 to report and unsafe situation for this immediate area.
Officer Neavitt was on off-duty assignment for the run. The barrier gates at 833 E Lawther
were, once again, unmanned and I got into the trail and stopped an SUV and a tan pickup from
going farther.
The trail was heavily congested between the two sets of barrier gates, E Lawther and the one
terminating at the intersection of Winfrey Point Dr and Emerald Isle. That is where Officer
Neavitt was parked.
The tan pickup was part of the race set up and crew. There was no marking on the vehicle and
as I have stated over and over again, markings need to be placed on vehicles. The only
vehicles allowed to escort runners or riders should be marked DPD vehicles.
This is dangerous and we have had this discussion before.
Baseball, last week and this week:
The vehicles of participants and spectators are doing exactly what has been discussed over
and over again, ad nausea. Despite the Little League supervisor trying to set parking
limitations on opening weekend with yellow tape and three cones, vehicles were and are all
over the place.
I watched last week and this weekend, driving through the ditch, spinning tires and leaving
ruts, and going onto the turf area that the Park Board and our Councilman said would be off
limits. Darren Boruff was my Park Board Rep at the time and I have not discussed this with
Gerald Worrall.
Not long after the tape was placed last weekend, cars were doing whatever they wanted. (It
did not help that a run was scheduled for the same parking lot.) By 8pm, vehicles had parked
all over and wherever they wanted .
Safety issues related to parking :
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The weekend pedestrian and cycling traffic using Emerald Isle, coming from Old Gate area by
Richardson Bike Mart and Forest Hills was impacted by vehicles pulling in and out without any
supervision . (This is not new.) Off-duty police were positioned at the Winfrey Point Drive
and Emerald Isle for the Tour of Dallas ride which interested this over-used roadway and
parking area.
Cars are parked in areas that include in the steep ditch boundary, in the actual intersection
and all the way to Garland Road.
The vehicles created and create a clear safety issue for non-event participants as well as
those parking for the events.
Safety issues for hike/bike and roadways for off-duty DPD
At the intersection of Emerald Isle and E. Lawther, at WRT 18e sign, last weekend, I watched
uniformed police trying to re-direct cycling traffic away from the run terminus at Winfrey.
The Tour of Dallas was supposed to turn up the barrier gated, gravel parking lot/road, onto
Winfrey Point Drive, over to 1eee E. Lawther, the wrong way.
Cyclists refused to respond to the officers and continued around the point and past the run
terminus .
Now, the Tour riders, a couple thousand strong, had to navigate the vehicles parked in the
intersection, on the shoulder, past the cars and trucks trying to arrive and leave.
This was sheer stupidity at the highest level . This was not the first time I had witnessed
this type of planning fiasco.
Who can tell me when this will be handled? To the Little Leagues' credit, one of the
organizers was trying to control the hundreds upon hundreds of cars and trucks, by himself.
He did get several of the trucks to move off the steep slope area but as of 25 minutes ago,
trucks were parked in the deep ditch and into the intersection.
Parking on turf:
Sheffie made public comment on parking on turf three years ago, saying it had to stop. The
same was true for Park Board Representatives.
The trend continues, unabated. The semi-circle turnaround by the gate of Vista Del Lago,
continues to suffer the heavy vehicles parking on it. Bollards used to adorn the entire
pPrimPtPr 11ntil 6 yeilrs ago but the Pilrl< Opt removed them drLe1 d ran over them.
This grass area is lee% Prairie Grass and when not mowed is verdant with wildflowers as well
as 18" high Prairie Grass.
I would appreciate more than lip service on these issues . I will be calling the Park Board
for a sit-down meeting with the new Chairman .
Ted Barker

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Needs Assessment For The
Winfrey Point Property
Situation In The Last Twelve Months Which Causes
Review:
1) The Katy Trail accident has caused all bike/pedestrian paths to
be reassessed for safety concerns
a. The Lawther Drive area has been identified by both
bikers and walkers as being very dangerous and prone
to future accidents if not addressed
b. The current road construction does not allow for there
to be a separation of these two pathways
c. There has been a request by the biking community to
open up Lawther Drive going both ways to address the
routing of bike trails around the city
2) White Rock Lake has a greater loyalty and patronage now than
in past years due to the improvements made and the popularity
of walking, running and biking.
a. There are still the same number of spaces for cars to
park as before 'vith more demand.
b. There is a concern about security at the lake for those
who park their car and leave it for hours on end, while
they run or bike the lake
3) There has been increased pressure on the city to address new
ways of raising monies for its parks and to help them be self-
sustaining.
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a. Those involved in races could pay a fee to park at
Winfrey Point.
b. If there was managed parking during the warmer
months of the year at Winfrey Point, additional income
could come to the Park and Recreation Department to
address White Rock Lake needs.
4) Winfrey Point had many open spaces for parking just a year ago
when prairie grass was allowed to grow, meeting the needs of
the Park Department to not have to mow or tend to the area.
This established an area in which animals can live and nest.
By taking away the benefits of parking, the prairie grass
initiation at this area does not outweigh the community needs.
Possible Solutions:
1) Have a study done from Lawther Drive at Garland Road to
Emerald Isle's intersection at Garland Road to determine
what options might be possible to protect the bikers and
running community.
2) Ask the Arboreh1m to engage a landscape architect to
determine what could be done to reestablish parking sites,
framing it with a more natural landscape. This study
should also include the reestablishment of the prairie
grasses lost to other sections around the lake.
3) Have a study assigned to determine the feasibility of
charging for parking in this area.
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Presentation to Paul Dyer and Willis Winters On
Winfrey Point Use For The Dallas Arboretum
As The Dallas Arboretum is a key component of the Renaissance
Plan of the City of Dallas, we would like to make the Park
Department aware of our critical needs in parking availability for
our guests, to keep from being an embarrassment to the city when
individuals are turned away which may be as soon as the next
festival. Additionally we have ideas to help the city take care of a
valued resource, Winfrey Point.
The current situation: At this time we have 365 spaces on the
Arboretum property that are surfaced and available for parking.
We use an additional450 spaces on land that has no approved
surfacing and have been using the grassy areas in the lawn in front
of the Camp House, called the Shadow Garden on each one of our
weekend days this fall and eleven weekdays for an additional 190
spaces. Needless to say all these spaces are used throughout the
Spring Dallas Blooms festival.
In the last bond issue we were given eight million dollars to use
for parking on the North part of our property, where the new Rory
Meyers Children's Adventure Garden will be constructed. Because
of information we hflve flt this time, one level in front of the
Children's Garden and one level of parking in front of the Camp
House with a connector road between the two and an area at the
Children's Garden for bus drop off will run approximately
$3,000,000. This will give us a net decrease of94 spaces over what
we have today, albeit on a much more professional surface. If we
add one level below the surface lot in front of the Children's
Garden, that would be an incremental$ 13,725,000.00 dollars and
give us only 197 more spaces than we have now.
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Areas have been investigated across the street where we own two
properties thanks to the city and are ready to have the city buy a
third. Yet serious study has been given as to how we get people
back and forth across Garland Road, including the most difficult
problem of all, helping people make a u-tum to go back the way
they came. We have even been looking at providing possible
tunneling to assist those wanting to make such a tum, to find an
opening in just one lane going right rather than crossing six lanes.
A Second Problem: The Horticulture Area will need to be
displaced because of the work taking place in the Children's
Garden area. Greenhouses for our use cannot be across the street
due to older sewer systems that could not handle the water
drainage. The cost of detention and displacement by running a pipe
the entire length of the alleyway across the street would be
approximately $3MM more than the construction alone. We have
sought, as you know, land (approximately 6 acres) in Fair Park and
in other areas of the city for our greenhouse and production
operation.
In hearing about the possible availability of the maintenance
buildings of the lake in two years; knowing that there are issues at
Winfrey Point with any standing grass in attracting 'trash trees'
very soon; and in wanting to improve the Winfrey Point area
overall as well as meet our needs and the community's need for
safe parking, \Ve have brought to you several proposals.
Proposal One
The Arboretum is allowed to park cars and buses on the Winfrey
Point property when needed in return for the mowing of the
property on a regular basis. Buses would pick up patrons in this
area and take them down Emerald Isle Street to the Arboretum. If
we are allowed to enter off Gaston Parkway all the better, if not we
will enter at Lakeland or at Whittier.
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Proposal Two
The same as Proposal One, but we are also allowed to place hoop
houses and our horticultural operations in a temporary location at
the Northern part of the Winfrey property on the side of the road
near the apartments, with the thought that in two years we would
take over the White Rock Lake Maintenance Buildings with
professional greenhouse operations and a true horticultural
growing space. This would require a business office/trailer etc for
restroom use in this area and bringing in utilities. This area would
be fenced, screened and protected and not a visual eyesore to those
in the apartments.
Proposal Three
In addition to the temporary horticulture space, an area to be
mutually agreed upon is fenced in a design that would be in line
with other such structures at the Spillway and around the lake, and
two gatehouses would be in place. A parking fee would be charged
most of the year for parking within the area and for those attending
events at Winfrey Point, races, walks, etc. Those monies raised, as
noted on the gatehouse entrance of such will be split net of
expenses between the Arboretum (for improvements inside the
Winfrey Point complex) and the City of Dallas (for improvements
to the lake.) The latter could be directed by the White Rock Task
Force. Access and egress along Emerald Isle. The Winfrey Point
building then begins being under the rental control of the
Arboretum and this is a part of the Arboretum PD. Free parking
could be offered to those attending ball games but later there could
be an arrangement to have the ball diamonds moved to another part
of the lake.
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Proposal Four
As the next step of development, a trolley/tram route is put into
place going against the traffic on the right side up of Lawther
Drive only up to the Arboretum entrance. The drive around the
Winfrey Point area is rerouted closer to the homes at Emerald Isle.
A gate will now be open at the Arboretum's Lawther Drive
Entrance for bikers, runners, walkers, etc. on particular months
where admission can be paid.
Proposal Five
The next step develops the property into botanical gardens with
three stories of parking underneath, accommodating over 4000
cars. The model is Millennium Park in Chicago with most of the
gardens above the parking facility. It allows those who are
members to stop in to the garden for early breakfast or lunch while
riding or walking around the lake and at the beginning or end of
their ride. Winfrey Point is rebuilt in a circular structure with
observation decks giving visitors the ability to see the developed
gardens and the downtown vistas.
Who does it benefit:
1) The Neighbors As they will have a magnificent multi
million dollar botanic garden outside their upstairs window,
increasing their property value immensely.
2) Those who want to improve the lake- Instead of one huge
empty area with a 1940's party room available for rental, the
city receives tens of thousands of dollars each year for the
improvement of White Rock Lake on the east side. These
monies can go for security with patrols paid for by the White
Rock Task Force, the low lighting approved by the city for
the safety of walkers and runners, better bike paths etc.
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3) Those who want to come to the lake and have no place to
park
4) Those in need of security - Cars and bikes can be left inside
and secured in the confines of the parking area overseen by
the Botanic Garden
5) Those who are involved in walks, bikes and runs -
Although the city is now using and well, Fair Park for the
larger walks and runs, smaller ones will still be necessary
around the lake and four thousand spaces could handle these
needs. In talking to Don Lucas, he states that he could
incorporate the parking price into the ticket price, providing
more monies for the lake and Arboretum split net of
expenses.