Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression

Mircea ICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)

The 2nd International Conference Atlantis Hypothesis: Searching for a Lost Land Athens, Greece 2008


Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
Mircea ICLEANU, Paul CONSTANTIN, Radu NICOLESCU (Romania)

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ATLANTIS ISLAND IS DISCOVERED
Atlantis Island
Introduction
Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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The location of Atlantis Island in relation with one of the palaeogeographic
image of Pannonian Basin rely on important previous studies:
1. Studies of mythical palaeogeography published in 1991, in Bratislava (The
XII
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International Congress of the Prehistoric and Protohistoric Sciences)
2. Studies of palaeogeography on the Panoniann Basin (2006 The XVIII
th

Congress of the Carpathian Balkans Geological Association - Belgrade)
3. Studies of paleoclimat (Oslo, 2008 The 33
rd
International Geological
Congress General contributions to climate change)
4. Bilateral Romanian - Hungarian cooperation (Geological Survey of
RomaniaBucharest and MAFI-Budapest ) correlations of the Quaternary
deposits from the East edge of the Pannonian Basin

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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a. The myths of Atlantis
reflects exclusive
European
palaeogeographical
realities
Important considerations:

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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Important considerations:
b. These are
focused mainly on
the actual Middle
Danube Depression

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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Important considerations:
Late
Quaternary
Pannonian
Basin
d. This has been isolated over 10 My ago from
the adjacent basins. The last possible
connection with the Dacic Basin (in the Middle
Pontian ) was interrupted about 7 My ago.

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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Important considerations:
e. The Pannonian
Lake survived
during Quaternary
almost until the
end of the
Pleistocene,
namely until the
end of the
Paleolithic
f. The Iron Gates Gorge (s.l.) formation,
respectively the interruption of the endorheic
character of the Pannonian Basin, can be
connected to the moment of the Moon capture
by the Earth, about 39.000 years ago

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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Important considerations:
g. This phenomenon can
be correlated to the huge
water flow that marked,
before the Great Flood,
the islands in the Northern
part of the Aegean Sea
(Diodorus Siculus)
Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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Important considerations:
h. After this
moment, in the
Pannonian
Depression
survived a relict
lake (the Relict
Pannonian
Lake), whose
shore
maintained till
the Great Flood
(thus until about
9.541 + 2008 =
11.549 years
ago) around the
+ 100 m
elevation
Bratislava, 1991
Fruka Gora
Deliblat
area

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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Fruka Gora
Deliblat
area The Relict Pannonian
Lake
Important considerations:
i. The Pannonian
Relict Lake was
characterized by the
presence of two
important islands.
The first
corresponded to the
actual Hill Fruka
Gora, and the
second one was
represented by
Deliblat area.

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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Atlantic Sea
Atlantic Sea
Pillars of
Heracles
j. The Atlantis
Island (with
Poseidons
residence) can be
identified with the
actual Deliblat are
(with a NW SE
orientation)
Important considerations:

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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k. On this Island (composed
at that time only by
Pleistocene deposits,
respectively by loess) was
placed the mountain not very
high and not very great from
Evenors island, mountain
placed in the actual Dumacia
summit area (today ~ 250 m).
Atlantic Sea
Atlantic Sea
Pillars of
Heracles
Important considerations:

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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l. The Atlantis sunk (from 11,549
years ago ), following a meteorites
rain that triggered the Great Flood
(biblical Flood), was due to the
great increase of the Pannonian
Lake level
Important considerations:

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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l. The Atlantis sunk (from 11,549
years ago ), following a meteorites rain
that triggered the Great Flood (biblical
Flood), was due to the great increase of
the Pannonian Lake level
Important considerations:

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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m. This increase
was accompanied
by huge
quantities of
alluvial deposits
(sands and muds)
accumulated
especially in
some areas of the
Relict Pannonian
Lake
Important considerations:

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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n. One of the
important
accumulation areas
was represented by
the area of the
Atlantis Island, in
witch the actual
sand dunes
represented a part
of these delluvial
accumulations
(alluvial deposits)
Important considerations:
Legend:
1 - Lakes and swamps; 2 - Holocene
sands; 3 - Actual lakes Balaton and
Neusiedl (Fert); 4 - Land

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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o. The area in witch
Poseidon would had built
his fortress could be
placed in the SE of the
Atlantis Island
Important considerations:
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p. If the hydrotechnic works of the
Atlantis Island represented a reality,
these were dug in the loess deposits
(fact that seems to be credible)
Loess deposit near
Dupljaja (Vojvodina,
Serbia)
Important considerations:

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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r. More precisely, the centre
of the Poseidons
settlement ( with the island
having a circular shape) can
be connected by the triangle
formed by the actual
heights ardak (159,1 m ),
Keja Lahului (157 m), and
Crni vrh (189 m)
Important considerations:

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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s. A more suitable
placement implies the
area with the actual
topographic name
Eronja, placed
between the heights
ardak and Keja
Lahului
Eronja from
Enorja (by
rhotacism )
and Enorja
(Enoria) from
(Ev) enor =
Evenor
Important considerations:

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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t. The toponyms Deliblato (Big Mud) and Major Bara (Big Swamp) from the
same area are in the favour of the proposed placement. Also Belgrade
(White Town) and Biserica Alba (Bela Crkva White Church) toponyms
suggest the colour of the Olympian Gods (white). This placement is also
sustained by the Coronini toponym (with the hidden name of the Cronos )
Deliblat area
Important considerations:

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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u. Pillars of Heracles reflect much subsequent
geographical reality in comparison with the Atlantis Sea
and can be connected to the area of the actual rock
Babacai, nearby Coronini village
Important considerations:

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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u. Pillars of Heracles
Babacai stone
Important considerations:

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Atlantis Sea
Vina
Lepenski Vir
Trtria
Sarmisegetusa Regia
Turda
Herakles
Anina (Ion, the oldest man from
Europe) ~ 40,000 years
Atlantis
Island
Pillars of Heracles
v.The reconsideration
of the archaeological
discoveries from
neighboring areas
Important considerations:

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w. Sarmisegetusa Regia the closest sacred
area of antiquity. The Dacian kingdom
(Burebista, Decebal), the closest imperial
power of the antiquity
Important considerations:

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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x. Nowadays, the Platons
text (Critias) can be broken
up in distinct passages
referring to very different
paleogeographical realities,
repspectively:
1. The Pannonian Lake
before the Moon capture
2. The Europe beyond this
lake ( Western Europe ) =
real and whole continent
3. The Atlantis Island
4.Fruka Gora Hill
5. The Atlantis Sea the
Relict Pannonian Lake
6. The Middle Danube
Depression
Deliblato village
Relict of Atlantic Sea
Important considerations:

Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
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ATLANTIS ISLAND IS DISCOVERED
Eronja
The Evenors
Mountain

ABSTRACT of the paper Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube
Depression by Mircea icleanu, Paul Constantin, Radu Nicolescu
presented at November 10, 2008 (Session 3) of The 2
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Greece 2008
The attempts to identify the area that might correspond, undoubtfully, to the
mythic land Atlantis, hadnt succeeded so far, as they werent relied on the
paleogeographic reality, very important for The Old World far history. These were
connected to the long maintenance in the present Depression of Middle Danube, thus
within the Pannonian Basin, of an endoreic region in which a huge lacustrian area
survived: The Pannonian Lake. This was definitely isolated from the neighbored
basins of the Central Paratethys about 7 m.y. ago and it maintained until prehistoric
time, as an inner sea characterized mainly by the presence of an archipelagos in its
Western part. Only after The Iron Gates Gorge shaping, probably during some
cataclysms which affected the whole Earth, the old lake picture radically changed. In
the South-Eastern part of the Pannonian Basin, a lake maintained for a long time. It
was supplied mostly by the 4 main rivers of the Middle Danube Depression.
The last huge catastrophe that struck this edenic humanity realm, about 11.600
years ago, was due to a meteorites rain that affected Terra, a well described rain from
the biblical text (Apocalypse of John). It was concentrated upon the Western area of
the Atlantic Ocean where a huge vapors mass appeared which turned towards East,
and triggered The Great Flood (or Biblical Deluge) that could be better understood
only in connection with the Pannonian area paleogeography. The same catastrophe
led to the last paleogeographic picture of the Pannonian Basin, meaning a relict lake
whose shore maintained for a long time at about +100 m height, and existed during
the Early Holocene [icleanu et al., 2006 - The XVIIIth Congress of the Carpathian-
Balkans Geological Association, Belgrade].
Picturing a Pannonian Atlantis might easily solve some location problems,
difficult to be solved so far, and could very well answer the numerous criteria
proposed for a realistic search of this fascinating mythic land. Thus, the West
Pannonian archipelago allowed the finding of an island to which the Atlants capital
could be linked. The Pannonian Lake corresponded to the Atlantes navigable sea,
placed beyond the Pillars of Herakles, that could be found only within the area of
the Iron Gates gorge, as a few antic authors (i. e. Pindar) or actual ones (i. e.
Densusianu), and as a lot of myths and toponyms connected to the mythic hero
Hercule did. The sudden disappearance of the Pannonian Lake might explain the
appearance of some fine, unconsolided sediments (mud) that isolated for a while the
off-islands of the Pannonian Lake. The moment of the Atlantis sunken can be
established together with the meteorites rain from about 9.541 B.C. (a much closer
data to the one mentioned by Plato). The Atlantes civilization (which beyond the
archipelago included as well areas from the Pannonian Lake shores, thus the total
area was closed to the one estimated by Plato) developed in a mild climate,
influenced by the Atlantis position in connection to a huge water mass and the
presence of some important hydrothermal resources, known even nowadays inside
the Pannonian Basin (nowadays there could be found the largest thermal lake in the
world the Hviz Lake, and about 1500 thermal springs as well).
This civilization was based on the presence of some important natural resources
(forests, salt, gold, silver, copper etc) known even in the present in the Carpathians,
which border the Pannonian Basin in the North, and in the East.
This view might effectively solve not only the Atlantis location problem, but the
connection to real geographic areas of some mythic paleogeographic data for which
no viable solution was found so far, among there could be mentioned Thot Lake and
Ha Lake (Egyptian myths), Ginnunga Gap, Audhumbla, Yggdrasil and Asgard
(Scandinavian myths), Cronus Sea (that became The Dead Sea) and Okeanos
(Greek myths), the Life Land and the Death Waters (Sumerian myths), Havila Lands,
Cus Lands, and Asiria (in the Bible), Alybe (=Alybas) Lands (Homer) and Siriat
(Egyptians). The mythic land Vanenheim (= the Land of Vans), whose name is kept
by the actual Panonia could be distinguished of all. Such point of view was
sustained by us even from 1991 [icleanu et al., XIIth International Congress of the
Prehistoric and Protohistoric Sciences, Bratislava].
The Pannonian Lake (Atlantis Sea) and the Atlantis Island disappearance
following some successive catastrophes: floods, earthquakes, tsunami could led to the
disappearance of the main material remains of Atlantis civilization described by Plato
and considered by many Atlantologists as very important criteria in searching the
Atlantis.
The population saved after such events kept in memory both the Flood myths,
and the Atlantis disappearance as well. Afterwards, these myths were brought in by
the population spread in those areas. In addition, the old inhabitants of the
Pannnonian space exported own toponyms of this primordial area in numerous
regions where they settled on, after successive migrations. The relations between the
Atlantes and the old Greeks could be easily explained in connection to the Pannonian
area as well, by the present toponyms with Greek mythic resonance from the North-
West area of the Apuseni (Western) Mountains.
There had to be mentioned the trend to find a solution for the Atlantis problem
according to the information, unjustified absoluted many times, offered by Plato in
his writings, in the terms in which extremely precious data were comprised in other
antic authors writings, among which Diodorus Siculus with his Biblioteca
Historica, mainly from the traditions regarding the Amazons.
One should not neglect that from the near close of this area there were some
world priorities: The Mesolithic Paradise (Lepenski Vir 9.000 BP), the oldest
world known writing (Vinca, Tartaria about 7.500 BP), the oldest ceramic tubes
network for drinkable water (inside the area of the old Dacian capital from
Sarmizegetusa Regia, in the South Carpathians - about 7.000 BP). In addition there
had to be mentioned the Dacian sanctuary presence from Sarmizegetusa, a proof of a
very developed civilization, placed within the central area already known as The Old
Europe
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PROGRAM

November 10, 2008
09:00 Welcome
FYTIKAS M. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE
09:10 The myth of Gaia, from Bronze age to modern scientific era
PAVLIDES S. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE
09:40 - 11:00 Session 1
09:40 Crete Thera Atlantis: Culture and Writing
FACCHETTI G. Universita Grave dellInsubria ITALY
NEGRI M. IULM University, MILAN ITALY
NOTTI E. IULM University MILAN ITALY
10:00 The story of Atlantis and Platos intentions
PARISAKI T. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE
10:20 11500 years ago ?
VIENI R. Independent Researcher ITALY
10:40 World maps from the Stone Age? New rock drawings show unbelievable
knowledge of prehistoric cultures
GOERLITZ D. ILZ University Bonn GERMANY
11:20 - 13:20 Session 2
11:20 The strange and undocumented discoveries of Antarctica and South America
WEIHAUPT J. University of Colorado UNITED STATES
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE
11:40 Atlantis position, shape and dimensions
SARANTITIS G. Independent Researcher GREECE
12:00 New palaeobotanical and paleoclimatical data from the fossil Quaternary flora in
the caldera walls of the Santorini island
VELITZELOS E. University of Athens GREECE
12:20 Skepticism on the geomorphological and archaeoseismological evolution of Troy
plain and fault, based on new field data
PAVLIDES S. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE
CHATZIPETROS A. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE
MICHAILIDOU A. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE
SBORAS S. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE
SYRIDES G. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE
VALKANIOTIS S. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE
VOUVALIDIS K. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE
ZERVOPOULOU A. Aristotle University of Thessaloniki GREECE
TUTKUN S.Z. Onsekiz Mart University TURKEY














ULUGERGELI E. Onsekiz Mart University TURKEY
KUUMLRCER A. Onsekiz Mart University TURKEY
EKINCI Y.L. Onsekiz Mart University TURKEY
November 10, 2008
11:20 - 13:20 Session 2
12:40 Copper and tin-bronze in the Bronze and Iron Ages in the Western
Mediterranean: The Iberian Peninsula
ROVIRA S. Museo Arqueologico Nacional SPAIN
13:00 An active Greek Bronze age trading centre in SE Sweden
MORNER N.A. Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics SWEDEN
LIND H. Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics SWEDEN
14:40 - 16:20 Session 3
14:40 Late Quaternary Paleogeography of the Pannonian Basin, the Key to
Locate the Atlantis in the Middle Danube Depression
TICLEANU M. Geological Institute of Romania ROMANIA
CONSTANTIN P. Independent Researcher ROMANIA
NICOLESCU R. Geological Institute of Romania ROMANIA
15:00 Atlantis in South Spain - a realistic hypothesis
WICKBOLDT W. Independent Researcher GERMANY
15:20 Atlantis, the last heir of an old legacy
RODRIGUEZ SANCHEZ J.J. Ayuntamiento de Madrid SPAIN
15:40 The Achaeans coming to Lamos kingdom in the Atlantic Ocean
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE
16:00 Flooding of the North Evia Gulf pre-historic lake and a possible
meteorite impact in Late Pleistocene Early Holocene
SAKELLARIOU D. Hellenic Centre of Marine Research GREECE
16:50 - 18:30 Session 4:
16:50 Atlantis: Lost Kingdom of the Andes
ALLEN J. Independent Researcher UNITED KINGDOM
17:10 Atlantis in Hispaniola: further discussion
SPEDICATO E. University of Bergamo ITALY
17:30 Examining the relationship between Ogygia island and Atlantis
GEORGIANNIS V. Technological Education Institute of Piraeus GREECE
17:50 Atlantis in Middle America
TEELUCK J. Independent Researcher CANADA
18:10 Rethinking Atlantis: Three events that shaped the legend
KONTARATOS A. Independent Researcher GREECE

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November 11, 2008
09:00 - 11:00 Session 5
09:00 A focus on the geologic sciences related to Atlantis-Bakhu: Can a
paradigm shift solve the mystery?
WELLS G. Wells Research UNITED STATES
09:20 Platos Atlantis story is his humorous legacy in the form of an ironical
brainteaser
SCHWEITZER E. Independent Researcher GERMANY
09:40 Testing Platos statement of prehistoric catastrophes in Greece, at
Rharion field and in the Eleusis gulf
STAMOU A. Eleusinan Studies Center Daira GREECE
10:00 The four main questions of the great logical myth of Atlantis
MITROPETROU E. University of Patras GREECE
10:20 Denudation of Atlantis and its resemblance to the mythology of
Dwarka - a geomythological analysis
KOAK Y. Hinchingrook Hospital UNITED KINGDOM
10:40 Circumstantial Evidence for Platos Island Atlantis in the Souss-
Massa-Draa Region of todays South Morocco
HUEBNER M. Independent Researcher GERMANY
11:20 - 13:20 Session 6
11:20 Platos atlantida nesos as the island of Meroe
GHEMBAZA T. Independent Researcher FRANCE
11:40 The truth status of Platos Atlantic tale
BERGMAN J. Independent Researcher SWEDEN
12:00 Evidence for a Large Neolithic Settlement in a Caldera-Like
Geomorphologic Structure in South-West Morocco
HUEBNER M. Independent Researcher GERMANY
HUEBNER S. Independent Researcher GERMANY
12:20 The constitutional and economic structure of Atlantis
BALOGLOU C. Hellenic Telecommunications Organization S.A. GREECE
12:40 Platos justification to call the Atlantic panpelagos and not ocean
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE
COSSEYAN C. School Advisor GREECE
13:00 Thats why Atlantis must be located within Mediterranean Sea
MONTE L. Indipendent Researcher ITALY
14:40 - 16:00 Session 7
14:40 Modeling of tsunami generated during the Minoan eruption of Thera
and evaluation of nearshore wave amplitudes and run-up along coastal
areas of the southern Aegean Sea.
McCOY F. University of Hawaii GREECE
NOVIKOVA T. National Observatory of Athens GREECE
PAPADOPOULOS G. National Observatory of Athens GREECE










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15:00 The search for lost Atlantis in the marine region westwards of Santorini
island- Program Atlantis 2003 - Preliminary results
MITROUSIS A. Hellenic Center for Marine Research GREECE
15:20 King Italos = King Atlas of Atlantis?
FRANKE T. Independent Researcher GERMANY
15:40 Minoan tsunami deposits on the coast of Crete and their relation to the
Santorini eruption
SIGURDSSON H. University of Rhode Island UNITED STATES
CAREY S. University of Rhode Island UNITED STATES
ALEXOPOULOS G. Third Ephorate of Antiquities GREECE
VAKIRTZI S. Akrotiri Archeological Institute GREECE
VOUGIOUKALAKIS G. Institute of Geology and Mineral Exploration GREECE

November 11, 2008
16:00 - 16:40 Session 8: Posters
01. A hidden calendar in the Atlantis story
PLIAKOS A. Pliakou Language Schools GREECE
02. A new map for the lost Atlantis - The sinking of Atlantis happened, at least, in
two destructions
PASCHOS T. Independent Researcher GREECE
03. Archaeoastronomy, and the Proto-Greek pre-cartographic knowledge of the
world
GREGORY G. International Centre for Earth Sciences ITALY
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE
GREGORY L. International Centre for Earth Sciences ITALY
04. Archaeological excavations at Indus valley sites correlate with description of
Atlantis continent and Atlantis city
KOAK Y. Hinchingrook Hospital UNITED KINGDOM
05. Are medieval planispheres representing late Pleistocene Antarctica?
BARBIERO F. Independed Researcher ITALY
06. Aristotle?s notes regarding the location of Erytheia- a second look at the Myth
KATSAROS T. University of Aegean GREECE
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE
COSSEYAN C. School Advisor GREECE
07. Atlantis in Antarctica
BARBIERO F. Independed Researcher ITALY
08. Atlantis mythology and its correlation to Vedic mythology
KOAK Y. Hinchingrook Hospital UNITED KINGDOM












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09. Atlantis on Lesvos, Greece
ANAGNOSTOPOULOS P. Independent Researcher GREECE
10. Crop and shamanic plants on both sides of the Atlantic support the theory
of an ancient trans-Atlantic exchange
GOERLITZ D. ILZ University Bonn GERMANY 11. Evidence of presentation
of Dholavira site - matching the criterias laid down by the Atlantis Hypothesis:
searching for a lost land conference 2005
KOAK Y. Hinchingrook Hospital UNITED KINGDOM
12. First Images of mythic Atlantis from satellites
COSCI M. Independent Researcher ITALY
13. Heracles Pillars
SARANTITIS G. Independent Researcher GREECE
14. Land and marine calendrical systems of prehiostoric Crete.
REGORIADES P. Independent Researcher GREECE
15. Neolithic and Early Bronze Age technological innovations
BASSIAKOS Y. NCSR Demokritos GREECE
16. Nicotine and cocaine in man made and nature made Egyptian mummies
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE
17. Odysseus transatlantic imaginary craft
SIDERIS M. Independent Reasearcher GREECE
18. On the reversal of earth rotation axis
SPEDICATO E. University of Bergamo ITALY
19. Post Atlantis migration of people to Europe - Is evidence of migration of
Indus people indicative of migration to Europe
KOAK Y. Hinchingrook Hospital UNITED KINGDOM
20. Testing Platos geomorphological statements of Acheans country land
CHALARI A. University of Patras GREECE
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE
FERENTINOS S. University of Patras GREECE
GEGARA M. University of Patras GREECE
PAPATHEODOROU G. Univeristy of Patras GREECE
21. The Achaeans coming in Africa and the island of Pharos
CHALARI A. University of Patras GREECE
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE
PAPATHEODOROU G. Univeristy of Patras GREECE
FERENTINOS S. University of Patras GREECE
22. The Atlantis research charter. A defined position in the colourful world of
Atlantis research
FRANKE T. Independent Researcher GERMANY
HOFMANN U. Independent Researcher GERMANY



SCHOPPE C. Independent Researcher GERMANY
SCHOPPE S. Independent Researcher GERMANY
23. The Egyptian origin of Platos Atlantic tale
BERGMAN J. Independent Researcher SWEDEN
24. The Platos unfinished trilogy (Timaeus, Critias, Hermocrates), mythological
traditions and archaeological data. A cross-curricular approach.
TSAKOPOULOS F. Panteion University of Social & Political Sciences of Athens
GREECE
25. The Sekmet-Phaeton catastrophe, in 1300 B.C.
COMBES M.A. Independed Rerearher FRANCE
26. The Thera Volcano at the Transition between the Cycladic Thrustbelt and the
Streched Continental Crust of the Cretan Sea
PAPOULIA J. Hellenic Centre for Marine Research GREECE
MAKRIS J. University of Hamburg & GeoPro GmbH GREECE
27. The coastal cross-flow Cephalonias paradox: A lost Atlantic attractor?
STERGIOPOULOS V. The School of Pedagogical and Technological Ed. GREECE
STERGIOPOULOU A. The School of Pedagogical and Technological Ed.GREECE
STERGIOPOULOS G. The School of Pedagogical and Technological Ed.GREECE
28. The descriptions of TIMAIOS and KRITIAS, from the point of view of a
researcher and not a Reader.
SARANTITIS G. Independent Researcher GREECE
29. The event 10,000 years ago
COMBES M.A. Independed Rerearher FRANCE
30. The importance of Herodotus Histories for the Atlantis problem
FRANKE T. Independent Researcher GERMANY
31. The mythical Thule to be located in Iceland?
GIANAZZA G. Independent Researcher ITALY
STUCCHI M. Istituto Nazionale di Geofisica e Vulcan ITALY
32. The true dimensions of Libya, Asia and Atlantis
SARANTITIS G. Independent Researcher GREECE
33. Topographical analysis of Atlantis description correlates with South Asian
location
KOAK Y. Hinchingrook Hospital UNITED KINGDOM
34. Where was Platos Atlantic Sea located? - Comparism of different mythological
traditions
BREMER D. Independent Researcher GERMANY

16:40 - 18:00 Session 9 - Closing Remarks
KONTARATOS A. Independent Researcher GREECE
PAPAMARINOPOULOS S. University of Patras GREECE