Mineral Oil Synthetic Oil

IEEE C57.
104 Revision (Nov 2011)
TF Database Analysis
Luiz Cheim and Lan Lin
ABB Inc.
Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

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Building the Database
+ HQ
= 521,700 records

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Transformers Age Groups

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Transformers Power Ratings

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Transformers Voltage Classes

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Transformers Oil Preservation Type

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Reason for DGA

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Percentiles of Hydrocarbons (all data)
ppm

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Percentiles of CO,CO2 and TDCG (all data)
ppm

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Percentiles of H2, C2H2 and CO vs. Age Groups
ppm

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Percentiles of H2, C2H2 and CO vs. Voltage Class
ppm

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Percentiles of H2, C2H2 and CO vs. Power Ratings
ppm

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Percentiles of H2, C2H2 and CO vs. Source of Data
ppm

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Percentiles of All Gases (Suspicious Units)
ppm

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Percentiles of H2, C2H2 and CO vs. Power Ratings
(Suspicious Units)
ppm

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Percentiles of H2, C2H2 and CO vs. Voltage Class
(Suspicious Units)
ppm

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Percentiles of H2, C2H2 and CO vs. Oil Preservation
ppm

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Annual Rate of Gas Formation (ppm/year)
Percentiles of All Gases
ppm

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After that
1. HQ Data incorporated
2. Discussed unknown oil preservation system
3. Question of Rate of Gas Formation vs Levels

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Montreal Meeting (May
2o12)
Revisited Percentiles with Following Condition:
O2/ (N2 + O2) < 5% and N2 > 70,000 => N2

Blanket
5 15% Membrane/Rubber Bag
> 15% Open Breather

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Legend (next slides)
IEEE Condition 1 Limit

Cigre Typical Value (Brochure SCD1.32, 2010)
AFMo Arc Furnace, 90th Percentile (mineral oil)
AFSi Arc Furnace, 90th Percentile (Silicon oil)

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H2 All Data
AFSi
IEEE Cigre
AFMo

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CH4 All Data
IEEE
AFSi
Cigre
AFMo

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C2H2 All Data
Cigre AFMo
IEEE
AFSi

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C2H4 All Data
Cigre
AFMo
IEEE
AFSi

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C2H6 All Data
IEEE
Cigre
AFMo
AFSi

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AFSi =
1936
CO All Data

Cigre AFMo
IEEE

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AFSi =
25,387
CO2 All Data

Cigre
AFMo
IEEE

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TDCG All Data
AFSi =
2,160

Cigre
IEEE AFMo

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Further Breakdown
Given a type of oil preservation

(say, N2 Blanket)
What happens to
Gas Levels vs Voltage Class, MVA, Age?

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H2, 90th Percentile Per Voltage Class
AFSi
IEEE Cigre
AFMo

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H2, 90 th
Percentile Per MVA Rating
AFSi
Cigre IEEE
AFMo

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H2, 90 th
Percentile Per Age Group
AFSi
Cigre IEEE
AFMo

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C2H6, 90th Percentile Per Voltage
Class
Cigre

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Revision C57.104 TF on Data Analysis
Gas Rate Subject
1. Should we calculate rates percentiles for all

gases?
2. Should we associate rates to levels? How?
3. Cigre recent experience

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Cigre Levels vs Sampling Intervals
Cigre SCD1.32 Brochure, December 2010

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Cigre Rates vs Sampling Intervals
Cigre SCD1.32 Brochure, December 2010

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Cigre SCD1.32 Brochure December 2010

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Proposal Under Discussion Level vs Rate
Frequency of DGA

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Proposal Under Discussion Level vs Rate
Severity of Fault (?)

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Gas Rates (IEEE Database)
ppm
t

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Gas Rates (IEEE Database)

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Gas Rate Issues
ppm 115 72
0.323 ppm / day
t 133
1
15
7
2
133 days

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Gas Rate Issues
ppm 115 72
118 ppm / year
t 133
1
15
7
2
133 days

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Gas Rate Issues 15% Cigre Typical Lab Accuracy
ppm 98 83
41 ppm / year
t 133
133 days

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Gas Rate Issues
ppm 68 115
50 ppm / year
t 343
1
15 ?
7 6
2 343 days 8

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Gas Rate Issues
ppm
13.5 ppm / year
t

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Another Example

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Another Example
27
500
ppm/year ppm/year

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Inherent Uncertainty in Trend Calculation
1. Multiple Laboratories
2. Lab Variations (repeatability, reproducibility, accuracy)
3. Seasonal variations (temperature, etc)
4. Sampling errors (humans, sample contamination, etc)
5. Type of Transformer (N2, etc)
6. Sampling interval??

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Distribution of DGA Sampling Interval

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Gas Rates Distribution vs DGA Sampling Interval

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38
%

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Rates Distribution vs DGA Sampling Interval

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2
04
5
3

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Food for Thought!

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Proposal for Discussion Level vs Rate
Severity of Fault (N2 Blanket, etc)
90th | t 95th | t
Table conditioned to t = Sampling Interval

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Rate of Gas Increase vs Sampling Interval???

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Food for Thought

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IEEE C57.

104 Revision (Nov 2011)

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

O2/ (N2 + O2) < 5% and N2 > 70,000 => N2

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

IEEE Condition 1 Limit

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

CO2 All Data

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Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Given a type of oil preservation

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Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

1. Should we calculate rates percentiles for all

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Cigre SCD1.32 Brochure, December 2010

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Cigre SCD1.32 Brochure, December 2010

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Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Severity of Fault (?)

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Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee

Luiz Cheim, Lan Lin - IEEE Fall Meeting - Milwaukee